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This episode was brought to you by Dustin Colegrove, Dan
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sebby Colonel Phillip Smith Adam and Colonel C. Mccadams Senior
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and other Patreon members support us on patreon dot com.
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Forward slash State Defense Force.
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It's kind of the common theme and we almost got
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number five this year because the Connecticut Governor's Guard, which
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is another word that they're using for state defense work,
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which is their State Defense Force is basically the tag
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went in front of the military hearing which Statedefenseforce dot
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Com was attending and we were one of the people
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that's opposed the legislation wanted to take the Connecticut Governor's
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Guard out of the state military and making them a
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private military organization, and which brings up a whole bunch
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of legal entanglements because I don't know if you even
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a private military organization's league on its own. So that
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was that was quite a thing, and you know, the
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edgend in general was basically saying that they had a
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limited budget. They he basically expressed that, you know, we
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have a very small budget of you know, I forgot
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how many millions of dollars he said, but I think
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it was in the single digits, like eight million or
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something like that somewhere around there. And he said, you know,
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we're paying for the horses to take care of the
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horses for the Horse Guard, and we're also paying for
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you know, the muskets that they use for ceremonies, this
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and that, so it's it's becoming a burden on them.
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But he didn't include the federal budget that the Connecticut
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National Guard gets, so he gave what the state provides,
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but not what the federal budget was. And I thought
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that was really interesting. And then he further went on
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and was asked by committee chairman saying that I believe
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the committee chairman or one of the committee members asked,
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is the Connecticut Governor's Guard members under a similar or
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the same type of military regulations as the Connecticut National Guard?
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And he said no, And thankfully we rectified that because
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we came in after he spoke and said they are,
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and I quoted the legal framework that they are under
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the and for people not versed in it, there is
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a federal u CMJ for all active duty and National Guard,
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but there's also a state u CMJ. It's basically almost
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like a copy and paste of the federal u CMJ
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for the state military forces. So state defense forces are
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under those u cmjs, and so we corrected during that
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and thankfully the Connecticut State Governor's Guard is still around.
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But yeah, with the Alabama State Defense Force, you're you're
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totally right. They didn't have a clear mission set, limited
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guard integration. I think there was like maybe one joint
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task force like I mentioned earlier, and then the governor
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not the governor at the Agent in General, I believe
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in twenty thirteen withdrew support and I believe the next
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big hit to them, which drove they had about two
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three hundred at one point that I remember members troops
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that were in the State Defense Wars, and in between
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twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen, the Agent General had them
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switch their uniforms from at the time I think it
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was acus to Polos and Khakis and then so with
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no real missions, no real training structure to focus on
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those missions. The I think it was about twenty fourteen.
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I think they were formerly deactivated and disbanded and since
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then have not been have not been reactivated or even
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attempted to come back, especially now with world tensions. You know,
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I would have thought that after twenty twenty two, with
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the first major World War, first major war in Europe
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happening and the realization that the National Guard might have
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to go back to its you know, operational tempo of
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going to be deployed to conflict zones throughout the world,
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that they would need a state defense force more now
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than ever. So yeah, I'm I'm kind of confused on that.
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What are your thoughts on why do you think that?
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In your because you have a lot more experience, what
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are since you were the Committee General Attacks of State Guard,
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what is your kind of opinion why agent generals don't
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utilize their state defense forces or want a state defense force,
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you know, and just have their National Guard troops perform
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those missions.
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Yeah, it's first of all, it's just if if it's
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the tags, the agent generals are not again fully brief
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on the road of the of that the Texas, I
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mean not Texas of the State Defense Force and you know,
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and and tags have you know, they they have a
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lot of things going on, so it should not be
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expected for them to know. But for governors and tags,
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the your state defense force is a powerful tool. And
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you you mentioned say, hey, as a as a force provider.
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This is what I can do for you, tag or government. One.
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State defense forces can deploy because they're not under the
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same uh same limitations as the national Guard, they can
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deploy a lot faster than than your National Guard. Within
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you know, within for Texas, we can normally deploy within
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twenty four hours. And that's that's what without a warning.
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With with any kind of warning, we can we can
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deploy a little bit faster. And when you talk about
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the the uniform, not going to get into the legal
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ease of the uniform, but if allowed to wear the
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uniform with within you know within you know ten USC
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you know, seventeen seventy two, you know, with with the
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state flag, not modifying the name tags and all that stuff,
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and pretty pretty pretty similar to how Texas does it.
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We have we have Texas State Guard in place of
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US Army, so there there's no confusion there and we
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have and we have the Texas flag instead of the
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US FU. What that does in the midst of chaos,
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it creates instant order. And so for for a governor
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or a tag, that's what you want. You want you
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want instant order because if you when you deploy your
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state defense force it is chaotic, So that that's the
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first benefit, a clear road. We what we don't want
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to do, and and and this this this was was
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was my attitude. We don't want to carry guns. Okay,
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We were about protecting the state and falling under the
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rules and the laws of the government. So so one
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thing the governor does not have to worry about is
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any president, regardless regardless of political party, coming in and
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taking those forces away from them, because those state forces
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belong strictly to the government. So now you have uniform presence,
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you have a you have a military, uniformed presence which
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falls under you know, those those the Texas Military coach
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justice and so there is there is there is a
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peace of mind there regardless regardless of what's happening around
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the world, that if if my forces are called out,
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I still have order within within my state. And that's
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that's huge, that's a huge benefit.
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This episode was brought to you by Dustin Colegrove, Dan
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sebby Colonel Phillip Smith Adam and Colonel C. Mccadams Senior
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and other Patreon members support us on patreon dot com.
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Forward slash State Defense Force.
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It's kind of the common theme and we almost got
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number five this year because the Connecticut Governor's Guard, which
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is another word that they're using for state defense work,
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which is their State Defense Force is basically the tag
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went in front of the military hearing which Statedefenseforce dot
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Com was attending and we were one of the people
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that's opposed the legislation wanted to take the Connecticut Governor's
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Guard out of the state military and making them a
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private military organization, and which brings up a whole bunch
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of legal entanglements because I don't know if you even
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a private military organization's league on its own. So that
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was that was quite a thing, and you know, the
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edgend in general was basically saying that they had a
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limited budget. They he basically expressed that, you know, we
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have a very small budget of you know, I forgot
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how many millions of dollars he said, but I think
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it was in the single digits, like eight million or
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something like that somewhere around there. And he said, you know,
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we're paying for the horses to take care of the
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horses for the Horse Guard, and we're also paying for
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you know, the muskets that they use for ceremonies, this
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and that, so it's it's becoming a burden on them.
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But he didn't include the federal budget that the Connecticut
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National Guard gets, so he gave what the state provides,
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but not what the federal budget was. And I thought
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that was really interesting. And then he further went on
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and was asked by committee chairman saying that I believe
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the committee chairman or one of the committee members asked,
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is the Connecticut Governor's Guard members under a similar or
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the same type of military regulations as the Connecticut National Guard?
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And he said no, And thankfully we rectified that because
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we came in after he spoke and said they are,
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and I quoted the legal framework that they are under
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the and for people not versed in it, there is
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a federal u CMJ for all active duty and National Guard,
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but there's also a state u CMJ. It's basically almost
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like a copy and paste of the federal u CMJ
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for the state military forces. So state defense forces are
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under those u cmjs, and so we corrected during that
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and thankfully the Connecticut State Governor's Guard is still around.
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But yeah, with the Alabama State Defense Force, you're you're
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totally right. They didn't have a clear mission set, limited
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guard integration. I think there was like maybe one joint
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task force like I mentioned earlier, and then the governor
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not the governor at the Agent in General, I believe
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in twenty thirteen withdrew support and I believe the next
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big hit to them, which drove they had about two
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three hundred at one point that I remember members troops
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that were in the State Defense Wars, and in between
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twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen, the Agent General had them
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switch their uniforms from at the time I think it
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was acus to Polos and Khakis and then so with
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no real missions, no real training structure to focus on
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those missions. The I think it was about twenty fourteen.
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I think they were formerly deactivated and disbanded and since
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then have not been have not been reactivated or even
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attempted to come back, especially now with world tensions. You know,
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I would have thought that after twenty twenty two, with
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the first major World War, first major war in Europe
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happening and the realization that the National Guard might have
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to go back to its you know, operational tempo of
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going to be deployed to conflict zones throughout the world,
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that they would need a state defense force more now
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than ever. So yeah, I'm I'm kind of confused on that.
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What are your thoughts on why do you think that?
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In your because you have a lot more experience, what
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are since you were the Committee General Attacks of State Guard,
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what is your kind of opinion why agent generals don't
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utilize their state defense forces or want a state defense force,
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you know, and just have their National Guard troops perform
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those missions.
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Yeah, it's first of all, it's just if if it's
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the tags, the agent generals are not again fully brief
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on the road of the of that the Texas, I
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mean not Texas of the State Defense Force and you know,
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and and tags have you know, they they have a
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lot of things going on, so it should not be
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expected for them to know. But for governors and tags,
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the your state defense force is a powerful tool. And
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you you mentioned say, hey, as a as a force provider.
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This is what I can do for you, tag or government. One.
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State defense forces can deploy because they're not under the
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same uh same limitations as the national Guard, they can
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deploy a lot faster than than your National Guard. Within
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you know, within for Texas, we can normally deploy within
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twenty four hours. And that's that's what without a warning.
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With with any kind of warning, we can we can
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deploy a little bit faster. And when you talk about
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the the uniform, not going to get into the legal
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ease of the uniform, but if allowed to wear the
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uniform with within you know within you know ten USC
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you know, seventeen seventy two, you know, with with the
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state flag, not modifying the name tags and all that stuff,
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and pretty pretty pretty similar to how Texas does it.
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We have we have Texas State Guard in place of
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US Army, so there there's no confusion there and we
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have and we have the Texas flag instead of the
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US FU. What that does in the midst of chaos,
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it creates instant order. And so for for a governor
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or a tag, that's what you want. You want you
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want instant order because if you when you deploy your
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state defense force it is chaotic, So that that's the
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first benefit, a clear road. We what we don't want
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to do, and and and this this this was was
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was my attitude. We don't want to carry guns. Okay,
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We were about protecting the state and falling under the
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rules and the laws of the government. So so one
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thing the governor does not have to worry about is
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any president, regardless regardless of political party, coming in and
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taking those forces away from them, because those state forces
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belong strictly to the government. So now you have uniform presence,
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you have a you have a military, uniformed presence which
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falls under you know, those those the Texas Military coach
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justice and so there is there is there is a
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peace of mind there regardless regardless of what's happening around
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the world, that if if my forces are called out,
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I still have order within within my state. And that's
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that's huge, that's a huge benefit.
