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Hi, guys, I'm it's you. Name is Joseph David Jones. Hey,

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this is Kevin Sussman. Hey,
this sweeny suit. Don't re stay

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this when you're listening to script to
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scripts screens. Great, hello and
welcome to a brand new episode of script

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to screen. We're almost done with
the month of October here. We're almost

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at our Halloween special, which airs
next week. It's going to be a

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lot of fun. But we've also
decided to have panels for today's episode and

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next week's episode. We're shaking things
up, like I said last week.

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Last week, boy, last week, and come the month of November we're

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doing another massive shake up, because
scriptwo screen is going to evolve once more.

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I know we're keeping you guys on
your toes. Hopefully all of our

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skinners out there aren't exhausted with all
of our changes, but hey, two

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twenty has if twenty said as anything, it's that transformation. Is is the

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real game. It's adaptability and and
scripto screen has to keep adapting. But

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those decisions aren't being done on my
own. I'm you know, I've never

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been able to make these decisions on
my own without the help and support of

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the one and only. So to
my Chewbacca, the one and only hot

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solo. Good afternoon and tonight,
wherever you are. I don't know what

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time is. You're listening to the
PODCAST, but hello, hello, hello.

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How you doing, Mr Solow?
Pretty pretty good. How are you?

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How? How are things with you? How's the shakeup coming along?

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Well, it's exhausting, as as
it's always. It's always, it always

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is. But you know what,
I'm excited. I'm excited. I was

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listening to some of our older episodes. I was listening to the why we

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love movies episode last night. It
made me smile and, baby, it

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made me smile, it made me
laugh and and I might be I might

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be posting it on our IGTV very
soon. So all of these screeners,

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if you if you're new to the
show, you'll get to see this episode

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that really defined script to screen for
both me and Hod it's a great panel

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episode. It's a great you know, the one with Clint and Yomna,

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right and Bailey? Yeah, it
was the international panel. Yeah, I'm

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a really good episode. That was
why the it was a so much fun.

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It was a celebration of movies it
was a celebration of script to screen.

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It was great and today's episode is
another panel. We've got another lovely

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young lasts with us, who who
loves films, who WHO's not opposed to

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a Netflix and chill, like I
hear, or so I've been told,

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who's also a big fan of Big
Bang three. Let's bring her on the

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show, Sophie. Welcome aboard script
to screen. Hello, hello, hello,

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Haddy, had Solos and lovely to
be here. Yes, welcome aboard.

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So you know that this this panel, or this round table, as

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we used to call them, on
script to screen. You know, with

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everything that's been happening in the film
industry, in the television industry, I

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think and and two thousand and twenty
has really again, scripto screen is in

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the only thing that's face to shake
up. I think the film industry in

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and of itself as face to shake
up. I think the way we consume

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content has also faced a shake up. So this panel is really going to

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be discussing a lot of that.
I think we're gonna be saying. I

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just wanted to jump in on and
because you mentioned go ahead, my head.

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Go ahead. You mentioned Netflix and
I was reading yesterday something really interesting.

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I don't know if you guys have
come across the yet, but there

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is about five hundred thousand dollars being
sent or given by Netflix to the Lebanese

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television and Film Industry to help Ya
answers and those two girl Funcke of their

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feet and they're also yes, yes, had actually sent me, had sent

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me the article yesterday. He was
like check this out. So it is

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really on point that we're actually doing
this episode right now with this news.

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It's actually like a blessing in disguise
that this news can I came along while

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we were talking about this. Yes, Sophie, thank you for bringing that

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up. I think it's a great
initiative from Netflix. It's Netflix and Afaf,

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AFAC, which is like the Arab
Still Arts Council. Yeah, Council.

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Yeah, I think. I think
for the I think it said by

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October twenty nine, any freelancers or
anybody who would like to pitch for stories

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or funding and they can pitch through, as you said, AFAC. I

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think I think we're going it right. I'm not sure. Thank Ye.

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Yeah, yeah, I think the
applications open on the twenty six of October

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and it lasts, I think until
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week of November. I think there's
like this time period for anybody, any

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filmmaker, who was badly affected by
the blast who is now, you know,

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more unemployed than they were before the
blast, you know that has super

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creative ideas. Yeah, exactly.
This fund is for them. Sophie,

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you know, I did it.
I did do a little intro, but,

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you know, before we start digging
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why don't you just kind of give
us like a you know, like a

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quick breakdown of what makes Sophie Tech
like? Who Is Sophie? You know?

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All right, Sophie, that's a
very interesting question. I'd like to

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stop by telling everyone I'm a jack
of all trades. I don't really have

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a specific one. I started off
as a journalist. I've always been into

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film, docum film to be precise. And then your mention of Netflix and

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Hill. I guess none of us
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especially in this part of the world, and during covid nineteen and we

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will been sort of attached to our
screens and I think well, my partner

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and I have been sitting waiting for
the new James Bond episode as film to

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come out, which is still yet
to be released. No time to die.

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So and, as you mentioned,
I do have a guilty pleasure and

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that is Big Bang theory, and
I do really watch me Big Bang Theory

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episode. I don't know why.
It really makes me laugh. Is Extremely

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Witty. I think that's about it. So, yes, I'm a journalist

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by trade. I Love I don't
even know how to describe myself. It's

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very interesting because I do. I
love lots of different things, to be

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honest. I am I was in
politics and I went into advertising and now

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I'm into documentary film and I think, if for those listening, I think

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it's just follow your heart and the
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this is what Alan and had solo
do, you know, and I think

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that's why they sound script to screen, and it's just do what you're passionate

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about. Get your priority straight.
Alan's been doing that recently. Yes,

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I have. Yes, I have. So, yeah, that's all I

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really have to say to everybody.
I think that's my motto if you want

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to know me any any anymore.
Just go with your high be creative,

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and that's why I think I brought
up the next click, the netflix grant,

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because I think full of you that
have been sitting at home and have

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been trying to think of scripts or
have been writing. I know Alan and

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had solar have been really creative at
the since you've been in lockdown. So

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for those who are in lockdown and
really want to get a chance to be

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heard or seen or be creative,
I think this is a really cool way

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and thank you Netflix for giving people
that opportunity. Absolutely wow. I mean

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yeah, that was an awesome,
awesome little thing that you just did right

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there. So okay then, that
was awesome. Speaking of Big Bang Theory,

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I sent you a picture very recently
because I know that you are a

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fan of Big Bang theory hard.
We met a little someone at EMFCC earlier

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this year, didn't we? Yeah, we met certain owner of a comic

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book store in from the Big Bank. You are you, Mr Kevin Sussman?

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Yes, yes, we did,
yes, we had, and we

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had the chance to sit with him
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Very very nice, chill guy,
very close to the character he portrays on

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the show. He's not. I
was just going to say to you had

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the same question. I asked Alan
is. What is the character like your

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real life? He feels kind of
he's a bit more confident, I'd say,

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but he does feel similar. He's
not very, very different from the

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others. There was not a lot
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lot of difference there. Okay,
so let's let's jump in and start talking

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about the topic at hand, which
is streaming services, which is sort of

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like this evolution of what the industry
is like. I think you know,

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you brought up the article about Netflix, Sophie, and then earlier this week

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I Disney had a press release about
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their focus to creating content for Disney
plus, which is really scary movie theaters,

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I think. But the but there's
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isn't that? Alan? I mean
there's this whole controversy about transgender and I

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don't know what is going on,
but it seems to be causing a lot

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of stir this whole Disney channel.
You Disney plus? You mean what?

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What controversy with with transgender? The
something about Mulan that I remember reading this

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about a couple of weeks ago,
that they didn't want to release Mulan,

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and Mulan was causing a huge stink
in America because they were they were saying

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that there's a portrayal of transgender and
they don't know if they should be be

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a children staring. Interesting. There's
so much controvert country controversy regarding the Disney

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plus tune of yeah, well,
I mean, like I did. Honestly,

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I didn't hear that controversy. I
heard the controversy about them shooting in

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in this in, you know,
in the location in China that essentially,

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essentially is like the what are they
like? The concentration camps where they keep

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the the Muslim population and all that
sort. There was that controversy. There

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was a controversy. But yeah,
there was a controversy about it being thirty

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dollars to pay, and now you're
telling me there's a controversy. There's a

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controversy of the actress being Pro China
against Hong Kong, the the manifestations in

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Hong Kong. She supported the police
and that also was like this big boycotts

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Mulan Movement. There's a huge shoe
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this, I mean does it Disney
is and I mean Disney and and a

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lot of other studios, I think. But like, Disney has been sort

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of the center of a lot of
like bad press recently because of all this.

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You know, it's been really how
do you feel about that, Alan,

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I mean knowing we grew up on
Disney? Yeah, well, I

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know now in the stage where we're
sitting like picking away at it's and or

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everybody is, and there's this whole
generation that are going to be consuming Disney

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in a completely different way. Um. Well, I mean that's interesting because

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I think it's not just like we
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also grew up on Disney, like
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films in a place that is very
special to exactly to be interesting like this.

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It's quite it's quite at a state. It's sad. It's very sad.

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I think you know. I think
you know. I don't think Disney

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has been making the smartest of choices
recently, I think, not just with

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their original content, but also with
other content, you know, with the

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other properties that they own. I
thinks they're they're in a very, very

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yucky situation and I I don't envy
the new CEO of Disney right now,

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because I think Bob Eiger did step
down and now it's Bob Chapeck, who's

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it was taken his place. I
don't necessarily, you know. And on

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top of everything with covid like all
of their theme parks have been shut down,

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their cruise ships have been shut down, and this is this is what's

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really scary for the industry as a
whole. But at the same time,

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and and I don't know if,
how do you agree with me on this,

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but at the same time, there
is a part of me that's like,

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you know what, I think the
industry does need to head rock bottom

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to kind of rebuild. I think
it's been too comfortable in its own shoes

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for a very long time and it's
been very passive and and thinking that it,

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like the audience, will come and
watch whatever we give them anyway.

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And I think recently they've been realizing
that no, no, we won't.

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I think we want to, you
know, we want you to give us.

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We want you and kind of like
you said earlier, hard we want

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you to stop being lazy. Right
yea look, I I think my issue

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with laziness comes more from what the
studios are providing with in terms of content.

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I do hope there is a shift
in content and more creativity. That's

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always been my problem. My problem
are is specifically with reboots, with the

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sequels, with remakes, with whatever
you want, bes prequels, equals all

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of us. So I just wanted
to think outside the books. Now is

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the shift towards, if you want, streaming. Is it going to change

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that? I don't know yet.
I do notice that there's a lot more

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focus on televised series, then then
then the movies. Right now, I

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think everyone is lost. I think, I mean we're lost, and we

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handles a limited amount of things per
day. So imagine the CEO Disney with

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everything he handles, with all the
the stocks and the money loss and and

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what he has to deal with.
It can't be easy and he has to

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adapt to the situation. Keeping in
mind that, I think it is here

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to stay for a while. I
don't see solution, at least not for

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the next six to eight months.
So they have to adapt. They have

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to to, you know, they
have to make money. They have employees,

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they've are they've probably already. I
mean if they close down the the

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theme parks, I don't know how
many people have lost their jobs. In

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the article, in the article,
in the press release, there were a

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lot, a lot of people who
were let go. There was there's a

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there's a business term for it and
I can't it's it's completely I don't,

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yeah, brain fart this morning.
It's okay, but like they've, you

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know that they've had a lot of
people that were let go. They you

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know, like I'm a massive,
massive amount of people that were like go,

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and there's no guarantee that that's not
going to keep going if the situation

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stays as is. Did you guys
hear that they're going to be opening at

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Disneyland in London? Wait, what? When did this happen? Yeah,

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well, I saw I didn't actually
get into the integrity of it, but

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but yesterday they said, I think
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bloody huge and I was looking at
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the topic of it, when we
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engage freelances across the world and they're
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something that Disney takes into consideration,
you know, actually engage the population?

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Would it not be a way to
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there's there's obviously a big difference between
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more risks and you can see that
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yeah very care of come up with
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seen anything Disney's done that's actually original. Everything is based on a marvel property

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or star wars, but I haven't
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haven't seen anything creative. But when
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shows are our originals. If you
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about, I don't know, glow, these are all original shows and Netflix

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has, you know, doing what
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and watch these shows. And in
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to start like that because they're getting
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directors are on these or they do
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not saying they don't, but they're
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the cast of unknowns at first and
the producers, and now that's whether thus

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shows as population in the world.
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she's a superstar right now. Yeah, so I think they're doing things in

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a more smart and creative way and
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that. Maybe is starts. They're
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you're taking ideas from the world.
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and, as you said, you
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they're overstressed or they have all of
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into place. So by abandoning the
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that are out there, that could
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think that's something that they probably not
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that's very smart. Aside from what
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agree that this idea of bringing in
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it in a way that is that
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It's doing in a way that feels
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they're doing also, and considering you
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Disney a kind of against each other. In this conversation in February this year,

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netflix basically said that it plans on
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films per year and it's going to
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animated films are Ex Disney employees.
They're the veterans of Disney. A lot

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of them are like part of the
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of them are the people that worked
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called Klaus, which was released December
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don't know if you saw that,
Sophie. It was a Christmas film and

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it was directed by, I think, one of the people that worked on

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like little mermaid or something, and
it is excellent. It had all the

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heart that you would expect from a
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movie. It was absolutely beautiful and
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to this kind of strategy, I
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Disney will never be able to catch
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have feeling that they're they're already lagging. And you who is that? I'm

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sure you guys can highlight more of
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There's a what we're going to student? You're getting lucky, yestid,

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there coming up quite fast and hard
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think Netflix kind of they own the
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because, and correctly, ten Netflix, which exactly, because that used

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to be a Disney collaboration and now
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I think they're losing their clouds and
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if they don't start to restrategize and
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find themselves really sort of lagging behind. I don't know what the word is.

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It's like the last people hagging behind. Yes, we like behind is

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perfect, but it's really quite it's
upsetting because, as we go back to

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just a couple of minutes ago,
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we had we held Disney in such
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of relied on Disney until the cartoon
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and it really set the stage for
how we approached life or how we

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approached romantic relationships. You know,
all of us in our prisoner Princess Towers,

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you know, looking for our which
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load of Beep, but at the
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build this world in our heads which
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changed so much for the generation that's
coming up. They they just this seeing

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things and engaging with things in a
completely different way to us. They have

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so much more variety and Netflix is
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just can't wait to see where this
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there's one thing I'd like to add. It's that Netflix has more mature content

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than Disney. Definitely have are rated, they have horror, they have action,

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they have they have some erotic stuff, is acting stuff, to be

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honest. And while I can't see
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on Disney plus coming, I mean
that that would be oh my God,

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Oh my God, that would be
heresy. But yeah, Netflix just offers

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more in my opinion, and even
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I watched the show called into the
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beltis. That was really good.
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a six episodes and I benched it. I just watched it. The thing

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with the plane, right, it's
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It's the sun that whenever the Sun
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they hijack a plane and it has
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survive. Wow, look at that. Conduct the shows like holy crap.

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not sure it's it's produced by Netflix. I think it's a French show acquired

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by Netflix. Yeah, so also
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yeah, Disney has a big portfolio
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and I don't think we've seen much
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Acquiring twenty twenties. I can't even

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say it, twenty and folks,
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exactly. Yeah, but the problem
is they're also relying, they're going to

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rely on nostalgia and reboots and yeah, like recycling, Andy, good dating.

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Yeah, they're banking, disneys just
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For me, this is what they've
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I feel. Yeah, go ahead, sorry, sorry, had yeah and

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no, no, and I feel
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they've been doing it and look,
it's working right now. It's making money.

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But I think at some point,
I mean being yourself all in your

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you have you have fatigue of superheroes. Yeah, I'M T tired lot of

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there as. I can't do it
anymore. I'm sure a lot of people

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are like you. So, yeah, but when sucks, just sorry,

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Allen just going but flesh out had
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to consistently recycle and regurgitate, let's
say, animations from our childhood, how

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is that even going to resonate with
the new generation or that that's coming up

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that don't even have this nostalgic feelings
that we're sitting talking about to begin with,

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they're just judging it on on what
it is, and if there's other

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platforms out there doing better stuff than
they're just going to, as we said,

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full off the full of the priority
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I was I didn't even know this, but I was told very recently

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by a very trusted source, I
was so very silly, that that Walt

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Disney had a plan for the Disney
archive and apparently he had said somewhere,

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I think, but I don't know
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it's true or not. But I
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it really I think it would really
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about this. But apparently what Walt
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needs to have its own snow white, its own sleeping beauty, its own

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cinderella its own Aladdin, its own
whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever,

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whatever. So we wing with the
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was exactly what the Disney Company's sort
of doing. But I don't think they're

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doing it right. Like I think
that, yes, they need to have

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their own side, they need to
have their own sleeping beauty or whatever,

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but does it have to be exactly
that character, like, couldn't we find

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new, original stories to tell in
the same like theme or in the same

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like I don't know, like there
have to be a better way to remake

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these films, like maybe just like, you know, uplift them to K

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and re release them, like do
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live action remakes that are so bland
and flat and don't even have the

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same emotional relevance that the animated films
did? And and and and I think

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maybe just what you're saying is we
all goes back to this concept of diversity,

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you know, whether it's in a
company or whether it's in the movie

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industry or whether it's in the creation
itself. And I think what you do

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find. I'm sorry, I don't
know how this conversation has turned into Netflix

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versus Disney plus. But I think
it's very interesting topic and I think a

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lot of that's why I'm kind of
go into it and I find yeah,

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yeah, but just comparing it to
Netflix, if you, if you if.

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I don't want this to cause any
controversy, but I think it's an

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interesting point to bring up. If
you watch episodes of Netflix, you will

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always find a token person from every
sort of angle of life. You know,

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representations of minority communities, representation of
the different type of categories or gender

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bender categories that are coming up.
You know, they're trying to appeal to

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the masses in a way, and
the masters have changed. The the way

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the discourse in parts of the world
has changed. You have people that don't

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necessarily associate with your Cinderella or your
snow white or any of the this sort

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of association has changed. So if
you're going to be regurgitating and recycling old

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theories and old miss or imagination which
we once had, which has now changed,

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and but you're still trying to make
it applicable to the present day,

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I think this is the biggest question
here. Is If you don't adapt and

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you don't bring on board the divide, the diversity of today's world and include

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all of these types of characters,
you're never ever going to be able to

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have any form of grasp, or, I don't want to say dominate,

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but be able to reach and talk
to everyone. You're going to get criticism,

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which they're facing now, you're going
to get backlash, which they're facing

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now, and unfortunately, what they
need to realize is that the masses are

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the ones that are backlashing and it's
the minorities or the ones that maybe do

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have these nostalgic feelings that aren't necessarily
kicking up a fuss. So why are

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you consistently catering to people like us, let's say, instead of catering to

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those that are determining this new world
order that we're finding ourselves in? Okay,

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I have a reply, but how
do you have something to say first

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before I jump in? No,
no, no, no, go for

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it, go for it. Okay. So here's here's my take on this

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and and you know, a little
bit of controversy and never hurt script to

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screen. So you're good, Sophie. Don't worry about it. So here's

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my take. I know I'm speaking
to you, so I thought I'd take

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my risk in Thea. So here's
my dake on it. I think it's

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too fold. Okay, so I
don't agree that the people who are,

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you know, the nostalgic people that
that Disney is trying to kind of cap

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or tow along with the new audience
isn't kicking up a fight. No,

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we're. We're kicking up a fight
very much so, because I think that

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our our childhood is is slowly being
tarnished and and whatever. And you know,

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we basically said what we held dear, what we held most hear is

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somehow being like manipulated to try and
fit this new world order. But it's

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not being done the right way and
it feels very this genuine. You know,

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I also think that that, you
know, what I like about Netflix

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is that not I don't think that
every show has every single diverse group,

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but it has enough content to cater
to enough diverse groups that if you don't

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like that, if you don't like
show x or movie x, there's always

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movie why or show why that you
will like. And I think this is

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what's making Netflix succeed is that it's
not trying to shove inclusion or diversity in

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every single one of its product,
but it's shoving include or but it's using

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inclusion on diversity in in different platroducts. Yeah, and it's platform and and

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I think the problem with trying to
do too much in one piece of content

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renders the content hollow and and shallow. And this is what a lot of

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different kind and not just Disney,
but I think like there's a lot of

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TV shows that do this on regular
like you know, on regular television,

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that that have tried to shove diversity
and inclusion in their shows and they've ended

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up becoming a mockery of themselves,
because what you end up with is is,

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instead of ending up with like fully
fleshed out, four dimensional characters,

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you end up with cardboard cutouts,
and that's even more offensive, I think,

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to minorities then not having minority characters
at all, when you end up

407
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.240
with like two dimensional characters versus fully
fleshed out characters. I always use this

408
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.910
example, like Grayson atomy had a
veiled nurse at one point, availed intern

409
00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:38.269
at one point in their show who
was on the series for like four seasons,

410
00:31:38.549 --> 00:31:42.349
never uttered a word. She was
just a background character. But Hey,

411
00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:45.829
Grayson automy had a veiled character and
it's like no, I'd rather you

412
00:31:47.109 --> 00:31:51.140
not have a veiled character then have
a veiled character that doesn't even speak,

413
00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:56.900
because I find that even more disgenue
a little bit it. Yeah, it's

414
00:31:56.900 --> 00:32:00.569
a little bit insulting actually, because
what are you floating a culture behind you?

415
00:32:00.690 --> 00:32:05.170
But you're not. You're not giving
anybody any do so standing of what

416
00:32:05.289 --> 00:32:08.529
this character is exactly. So I
think with what Disney has been trying to

417
00:32:08.609 --> 00:32:12.329
do is trying to adapt to this. Hey, look, we had a

418
00:32:12.369 --> 00:32:15.920
gay couple in beauty and the beast, or like hey look, we this

419
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.839
was a fully fleshed out Chinese you
know. Still, man, it's like

420
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.160
yeah, but no, you know, no, you're not doing those right,

421
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.839
Disney, like you're not. You
know, you can't waive that flag

422
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.589
if you're sort of throwing spices here
and there but you're not necessarily cooking the

423
00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:37.150
meal properly, if you will.
I don't know if that metaphor worked,

424
00:32:37.269 --> 00:32:39.309
but you know, you get my
no, it's a bit like a rule

425
00:32:39.470 --> 00:32:45.539
diet. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Had anything you want to throw in

426
00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:52.099
here? I want some carrots and
cabbage, please. No, I thank

427
00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:55.539
you, guys. So pretty you
know, summed up, pretty much everything

428
00:32:57.059 --> 00:33:00.009
regarding this topic. There's not much
to add to it, but I would

429
00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:06.650
have to agree with you, Alan, on on what you said. You

430
00:33:06.769 --> 00:33:12.529
know that Netstix does cater to a
more diverse audience because of the content they

431
00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:17.039
have, because they have diverse shows, whereas Disney is trying to force feed

432
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.759
US certain things. Yep, exactly, and even even even when it comes

433
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.400
to nostalgia, Netflix is doing it
right, specially now that they own Cobra

434
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.910
Kai, like, because you and
I have had you and I have expressed

435
00:33:29.990 --> 00:33:35.150
how how much we feel Kobra Kai
is like the best representation of nostalgia done

436
00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:38.190
in the best way possible. Oh, absolutely, and I can't wait to

437
00:33:38.269 --> 00:33:43.259
see what's sort it's coming then store
for season three. Yeah, exactly.

438
00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:45.180
So if you, I don't know
if you know a Cobra, do you

439
00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:47.700
know what Cobra Kai is? No, I decided to say quite pretty quiet

440
00:33:47.740 --> 00:33:52.700
on that one. Cobra Kai is
the as this or like the sequel series

441
00:33:52.779 --> 00:34:00.410
to the karate kid films. So
it brought back the original cast but with

442
00:34:00.529 --> 00:34:04.170
their children. So it's again it's
like nostalgia done in the right way,

443
00:34:04.289 --> 00:34:06.890
like for people who are nostalgic about
the karate kid. You get to watch

444
00:34:06.930 --> 00:34:08.849
it and for people who haven't seen
the quarte kid or are just jumping on

445
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:13.960
Kobra Kai, they'll still be able
to enjoy it because it's a brand new

446
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.679
story, but it's filled with the
East d eggs for the nostalgic people,

447
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:23.199
but it's using its legacy characters in
the best way possible that the you know,

448
00:34:23.309 --> 00:34:27.989
like the new generation in the older
generation can both enjoy the show and

449
00:34:27.989 --> 00:34:30.150
enjoy the show exactly. Yeah,
yeah, and this is again, this

450
00:34:30.309 --> 00:34:34.550
is nostalgia done right. You know
what I mean? Yeah, I think

451
00:34:34.630 --> 00:34:36.989
this is going back to Hadd these
point when he was saying, you know,

452
00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:40.820
recycling, regurgitating, redoing and all
of that is not necessarily bringing back

453
00:34:42.019 --> 00:34:45.659
nostalgia, but like taking something and
then giving you an ever earn evolution or

454
00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:51.739
like an ex step or a generational
jump. You know where you can apply

455
00:34:52.179 --> 00:34:55.329
what you just said, Alan,
in know the older generation and the younger

456
00:34:55.409 --> 00:35:00.769
generation can meet halfway. I think
it's obviously it's the great so it's the

457
00:35:00.889 --> 00:35:07.130
perfect Utopian strategy, if you want
to put it in that way. Exactly

458
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.880
exactly. I do want to talk
about one thing, sophy, because you

459
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.679
did mention this earlier in the absurd
the idea that Netflix is supporting these independent

460
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.840
people, independent filmmakers, independent artists, independent content creators. They've always kind

461
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.469
of catered to that audience. It
does have a more artistic like. There's

462
00:35:23.469 --> 00:35:28.510
a lot of more artsy kind of
films on Netflix. I mean, yes,

463
00:35:28.550 --> 00:35:30.750
they do have their commercial stuff,
yes, they do have their trashy

464
00:35:30.909 --> 00:35:34.989
reality TV shows, but again,
like we said, it caters to every

465
00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:38.940
kind of honorary one. Yeah,
and you as a documentarian. I mean

466
00:35:39.099 --> 00:35:45.380
the amount of documentaries on Netflix and
Docu series on Netflix, it's Justin amazing.

467
00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:49.340
Yeah, it's some means good.
They are so good. You know

468
00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:52.969
we we were limited once, where
you would sit and wait for a great

469
00:35:53.050 --> 00:35:57.849
documentary to come out, or you
would sit and watch discovery channel, law

470
00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:00.610
you would you know, you had
to just sit and wait for something good

471
00:36:00.650 --> 00:36:04.360
and most of the time it seemed
to be a load of crap or the

472
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.000
history channel. And then, and
then, thank God, box came out

473
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.079
and vice came out and you know, you started to get these really interesting

474
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.000
stories from around the world which you
didn't get your hands on before. But

475
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.670
again, you know, it was
more the Internet side of things they would

476
00:36:19.670 --> 00:36:22.349
never on TV box advice. You
had to go searching for them. Will

477
00:36:22.389 --> 00:36:27.150
follow them. So what Netflix is
done is finally brought it to you in

478
00:36:27.230 --> 00:36:32.019
an easier way and it's giving you
great, interesting stories. Like there are

479
00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:35.780
just so many things that are there
that just blow my mind. I'm just

480
00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:39.820
wow you. Thank thank you,
Netflix for like bringing this topic up for

481
00:36:39.940 --> 00:36:46.570
discussion and give you thought provoking at
the same time. So it all goes

482
00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:50.849
back to your diversity comments. And
if you're not going to be able to

483
00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:55.050
have categories or appeal to the masses
or appeal to different types of people,

484
00:36:55.170 --> 00:37:02.440
you're never going to succeed, especially
in today's world, because this individualistic mentality

485
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.639
of you know, I'm unique.
It tends to be a thing that people

486
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.639
are doing these days. I'm unique. What I have to say is important

487
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:14.360
and I want to get what I
want to say out there, which is

488
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.070
something I think people were scared of
before. They used to not value their

489
00:37:17.150 --> 00:37:23.389
voice or not value their creativity,
or we're insecure about sharing their ideas or

490
00:37:23.469 --> 00:37:28.190
were put down by the big conglomerates
and todd you're dumb, we're better.

491
00:37:28.309 --> 00:37:31.019
You know, whether we're warner brothers, universal studios. You know we are.

492
00:37:31.179 --> 00:37:35.059
We know. If you're not in
here, you're not part of this

493
00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:37.059
crew, this party. You know
and we don't. You don't. We're

494
00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:42.219
not really taking what you say into
consideration, which I think Netflix has shown

495
00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:49.170
that the value of taking these people's
thoughts and creativity into consideration can can set

496
00:37:49.250 --> 00:37:53.329
you up for something different, something
more appealing, something more diverse. And

497
00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:59.960
unfortunately, if you're not able to
do that, whether you're a person in

498
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.840
your daily life with your career or
a streaming channel or a TV channel or

499
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:12.559
whatever, I don't think you're going
to succeed, because the world has changed

500
00:38:12.869 --> 00:38:17.510
and if you're not willing to move
or involve personally or on a career level,

501
00:38:17.510 --> 00:38:22.150
I don't see how that's going to
help in any way possible. And

502
00:38:22.389 --> 00:38:30.219
that's exactly why script to screen keeps
adaptain. Baby was listening at the beginning

503
00:38:30.219 --> 00:38:32.260
with Alan going, yeah, we've
done this and we're doing that, we're

504
00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:37.260
coming, we're changing. At see
they've got it right. Guys the water

505
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:40.610
and this seeing what fails and what
doesn't, but at least they're bothering to

506
00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:45.650
take that risk and that change and
and opening them up maybe for maybe opening

507
00:38:45.690 --> 00:38:49.610
you up for criticism, but,
as you said, you know, you

508
00:38:49.769 --> 00:38:52.769
need to learn from things, you
need to try things and if you don't,

509
00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:57.880
you just going to be boring.
Exactly exactly, and I think again,

510
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.679
I think it goes back to something
that you said earlier, Sophie,

511
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.679
which is you know if you're not
but you know if you're passionate about the

512
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.630
thing that you're doing and if you're
passionate about and you believe in in what

513
00:39:09.829 --> 00:39:14.670
you're doing, and this is something
that both had and I truly do believe

514
00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:17.829
in, obviously, but you know, like, if you're not passionate about

515
00:39:17.829 --> 00:39:21.949
it, if you don't believe in
it, then you're not going to do

516
00:39:22.150 --> 00:39:24.699
the thing that we just discussed,
which is try and adapt and try and

517
00:39:24.820 --> 00:39:28.980
change and try to see how the
thing you love and how the thing you're

518
00:39:28.980 --> 00:39:34.940
passionate about can fit into this new
world order. Like how can in many

519
00:39:34.980 --> 00:39:37.380
ways, like how can scrap it
in? This is a question that Hadd

520
00:39:37.380 --> 00:39:39.849
and I are basically asking, have
been asking our selves for the past two

521
00:39:39.889 --> 00:39:44.969
weeks. How can script to screen
fit into this new world? Like how

522
00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:49.570
can we remain part of the conversation? How can we relevant to new to

523
00:39:49.690 --> 00:39:55.199
celebrate film and be relevant on this
show in this new world that we're living

524
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.800
in, because everything is changed,
like even the conversation about cinema has changed,

525
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.000
like everything is changed. Yeah,
because, I mean, if you

526
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.679
want to take two steps back,
you you you had certain certain topics that

527
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.070
you could discuss. Okay, there
with TV shows that had their prime time.

528
00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:13.630
You know set, we know that
we're set at seven o'clock. I'm

529
00:40:13.630 --> 00:40:15.949
going to sit down and watch Gritsina
to meet wonderful, okay. Then we

530
00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:21.349
had the DVD's, then you had
all of these different elements that came up.

531
00:40:21.349 --> 00:40:25.219
But we're in a world where content
is king, content is being created

532
00:40:27.780 --> 00:40:32.739
in in the thousands and in one
hour, you have, you have so

533
00:40:32.900 --> 00:40:38.570
much out there, and if you
can learn how to use and utilize your

534
00:40:38.690 --> 00:40:44.690
resources for your benefit to be able
to create a further discussion and a further

535
00:40:44.809 --> 00:40:47.809
involution, that is the only way
for me to see this going any anyway

536
00:40:47.929 --> 00:40:52.840
forward. So for script to screen, to discuss cinema, for example,

537
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.760
and then move on to TV shows
and now talk about streaming and discussing Netflix

538
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.760
and Disney plus. I mean this
is the only you're having to talk about

539
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.590
the way the world is moving and
it's moving so bloody fast. It's moving

540
00:41:05.349 --> 00:41:07.710
too fast, like it's really hard
to catch shup. But if you don't

541
00:41:07.750 --> 00:41:12.710
catch up, that train has stopped
at the platform and so not going anywhere.

542
00:41:13.389 --> 00:41:19.500
Exactly, exactly hard anything. You
want to jump in and say look,

543
00:41:21.619 --> 00:41:25.659
so much has already been said,
right, Sophie, and I mean,

544
00:41:25.940 --> 00:41:29.420
and I knew this was gonna happen. I mean like we knew it

545
00:41:29.579 --> 00:41:31.420
was gonna be like a Ping Pond, because we've been waiting to have these

546
00:41:31.539 --> 00:41:36.650
discussions together and like so script,
the screen has become the platform. Or

547
00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:39.530
Sophie and I get the like kind
of play Ping Pong with this. It

548
00:41:39.690 --> 00:41:45.570
so so but I can't not lot
like it hottest a chance to kind of

549
00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:47.679
put in his tent, type of
the referee, you know, just watching

550
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.400
us. I want to go back
to something you said earlier on the show

551
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.239
and link it to that, when
you were talking about Walt Disney saying that

552
00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:01.510
every generation deserves their view chained the
beast and Snow White and whatnot. Look,

553
00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:06.630
they probably do deserve that, but
I think Walt Disney also said that

554
00:42:07.550 --> 00:42:13.909
in a time where technology wasn't so
advanced. He said it. I don't

555
00:42:13.949 --> 00:42:15.380
know, like eighty years ago,
a hundred years ago, when, for

556
00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:19.460
whenever, whatever he said, what
she said. It was a while ago.

557
00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:28.380
I don't think it applies today.
Yeah, yeah, when when you

558
00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:32.369
go outside listening, we're listening,
Joe, you go all silent. I

559
00:42:32.849 --> 00:42:38.369
think that it disconnected. So now
we were listening intently. Have the TSD

560
00:42:38.530 --> 00:42:47.440
right now? Yeah, so he
said this at a like. Technology is

561
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.039
evolving faster than it ever has.
Things change every five years, every three

562
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:58.559
years now, versus they used to
change every ten, fifteen, twenty,

563
00:42:58.670 --> 00:43:02.269
thirty years even. It took time
for things to evolve, but now things

564
00:43:02.309 --> 00:43:07.110
are changing. Smartphones are here.
People can watch a show on their phone

565
00:43:07.349 --> 00:43:10.590
on their way to work, on
a brain, in a cab, on

566
00:43:10.670 --> 00:43:15.940
the airplane. There's just so much
that there's a there's a larger demand,

567
00:43:16.099 --> 00:43:20.900
I think had because, as you
just said, the consumer is consuming so,

568
00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:25.300
so much faster. So there's exactly
mine for consistently new content and I

569
00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:29.610
think, going back to you a
point of ten to fifteen year timelines,

570
00:43:29.929 --> 00:43:32.769
it took an animation triple the time
to be made than it is now.

571
00:43:32.889 --> 00:43:38.769
Exactly exact gy. Yeah, even
animation itself has evolved. I mean we

572
00:43:38.889 --> 00:43:43.800
used to have the hand drawn cartoons
and now we have the, if you

573
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.360
want to animated toy stories and wally
and whatnot, as a computer animation.

574
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.519
Yeah, computer animation, absolutely.
So, you know, things are changing

575
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.309
and people have to adapt and script
the screen does have to adapt. We

576
00:43:59.349 --> 00:44:02.469
you know, now we have covid
we don't have the luxury of going to

577
00:44:02.590 --> 00:44:09.139
movie theaters, we don't have a
lot of luxuries. We had your back.

578
00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:14.300
So exactly, things are different and
we have to, you know,

579
00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:20.099
be responsive and, and I mean
we used to talk about a movie release

580
00:44:20.219 --> 00:44:24.170
every week because movies were being released
every week. Now they're definitely less of

581
00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:30.369
that, much less of them away. Way. Wait, let's yeah,

582
00:44:30.730 --> 00:44:36.849
studios are postponing their movies, studios
are streaming their movies, which is what

583
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:43.320
we you know, initially we're supposed
to talk about how Disney wants to release.

584
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.119
Not that this is a bad conversation, but just pointing out that,

585
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:52.360
you know, the studios don't know
what to do with these properties and Disney

586
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.510
has decided to release most of their
movies online. Is that going to be

587
00:44:55.750 --> 00:45:00.550
opening? Supposed to be released now
in December? The new picks are film.

588
00:45:01.510 --> 00:45:06.829
Yeah, so is it going to
be something that's going to help them

589
00:45:06.989 --> 00:45:10.139
win their war against Netflix? I
don't think so. I actually don't.

590
00:45:10.139 --> 00:45:14.099
Yees I again. I think you
know like not to re repeat, but

591
00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:19.500
I guess it again. It goes
back to it's not about where you're offering

592
00:45:19.900 --> 00:45:22.449
what you're offering, but it's it
goes back to something that is at the

593
00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:28.289
core. Exactly is it's. What
are you offering me? It's story,

594
00:45:28.449 --> 00:45:30.449
story, story. Are you giving
me a good story? Are you giving

595
00:45:30.449 --> 00:45:35.010
me good content, and are you
keeping my attention? And this is what

596
00:45:35.130 --> 00:45:37.000
it is. It's not. You
know, a lot of people call this

597
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.119
the streaming wars. I don't call
this the streaming wars. I call this

598
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:44.639
the attention wars. Where are you? Where am I going to be paying,

599
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:49.000
because that's the only currency that really
matters right now. Where am I

600
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.949
going to be paying my attention?
Or who am I going to be paying

601
00:45:52.070 --> 00:45:58.269
my attention to? And if you're
not relevant, if you're not adapting and

602
00:45:58.349 --> 00:46:01.389
if you're not, you know,
catering to your audience, you're just you're

603
00:46:01.429 --> 00:46:05.139
going to fade away, that that
train is going to leave the action the

604
00:46:05.219 --> 00:46:07.699
world. Yep, exactly. Well, guys, I think this sets up

605
00:46:08.059 --> 00:46:15.780
a very interesting closure for you guys. So it's about it, Sophie.

606
00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:20.010
Sophie's just made a cru she's like, you know what, I think it's

607
00:46:20.050 --> 00:46:23.969
time for us and the show.
No, I just shouldn't be interesting,

608
00:46:24.010 --> 00:46:28.050
because how do you sort of like
summed it up? And you just sort

609
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of summed it up and I think
it's design for the for the audience to

610
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hear what is the next step for
script to screen in an interesting little grief,

611
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without giving too much where you guys
taking this? Look at this when

612
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I'm taking the MIC, all putting
them on the spot hot too, you

613
00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:59.670
should be tease a little, maybe, just like a bit. Okay,

614
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okay. So now I think,
I think one of the things that had,

615
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and I truly miss, you know, when it came to scripto screen,

616
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when it came to a conversation.
The reason why I talked about this

617
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episode that we had recorded it,
I mean almost two three years ago,

618
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which is the why we love movies
round table, is because I think what's

619
00:47:22.010 --> 00:47:25.969
really lacking nowadays, even more so
than when we did this episode, because

620
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that was kind of part of the
conversation of that episode, is this.

621
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It's this celebration of what we love
and it's this celebration of cinema, of

622
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.440
the content that we adore. So
I think the thing that I can tease

623
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.159
and and again, I do want
to tease it because it's still is in

624
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the very in the development stage and
I don't want to Jinks it or give

625
00:47:46.750 --> 00:47:51.309
it away or promise too much,
but I do want to say to our

626
00:47:51.309 --> 00:47:53.789
audience, I do want to say
to our screeners, that the content is

627
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going to shift into a more in
depth, celebratory conversation and it's going to

628
00:48:02.139 --> 00:48:08.940
focus on in an indirect way,
it's going to focus on why we love

629
00:48:09.019 --> 00:48:14.050
what we love, but the theme
of it isn't necessarily going to be that

630
00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:16.650
per se. It's going to be
a little deeper and a little weightier,

631
00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:22.010
but also a lot of fun,
and our episodes are going to shift away

632
00:48:22.130 --> 00:48:25.730
from what seems to be very toxic
lately, what seems to be, you

633
00:48:25.809 --> 00:48:30.320
know, that headlining news. It's
going to slowly shift away from that and

634
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:35.719
focus more on, you know,
why we made scripture screen to begin with.

635
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.800
You know I love it and yeah, I think that's a good enough

636
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:45.070
to ease. Right Hod, it's
just US celebrating our love for film per

637
00:48:45.190 --> 00:48:51.829
series for certain actors. You're taking
things in review, these movie soundtracks.

638
00:48:52.750 --> 00:48:54.900
Yeah, yeah, it's because we
love film and we want to celebrate this

639
00:48:55.019 --> 00:48:59.780
art. There's just so much shit
going on right now in the world that,

640
00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.340
you know, we don't want to
be on board of the CACA train.

641
00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:06.980
We want to be on board of
the happy train, we want to

642
00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:10.010
be on board the, you know, positive train. Want people to to

643
00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:15.449
listen, disconnect for my down thirty, forty, five, fifteen minutes and

644
00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:22.369
enjoy and remember and understand why we
love the things we love. Yes,

645
00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:32.280
exactly. I think that was a
beautiful statement myself. All right, guys,

646
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.400
on that note, we are going
to bring the episode officially to a

647
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.070
close. Sophie, thank you so
so much for this beautiful and sight of

648
00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:44.710
conversation. Even though it kind of
shifted then in a different direction than what

649
00:49:44.750 --> 00:49:49.789
we planned, I think we still
got a beautiful, very, very on

650
00:49:50.070 --> 00:49:54.780
point conversation. So what we normally
do on the show is we kind of

651
00:49:54.820 --> 00:50:00.300
let our panels share their social media
handles. So if our screeners want to

652
00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:04.980
follow you and want to kind of
stay on board what you do, where

653
00:50:05.019 --> 00:50:10.090
can they follow you? Okay,
instagram, it's at s Gizeri. So

654
00:50:10.289 --> 00:50:15.570
that's G H A zed IRI,
and I have a youtube channel as well.

655
00:50:15.650 --> 00:50:21.289
So just type in Sophie Gazeri there
and Sophie is so, Sophie,

656
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.960
no, s in there please.
And they can listen to you on another

657
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.760
podcast, can they not? Yes, yes, they can allen. Yes,

658
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:37.869
listen to me on and Gamy Alan
is my little guru here and he

659
00:50:37.190 --> 00:50:42.590
is behind, he's the mastermind behind
the Levant X podcast. It is it's

660
00:50:42.630 --> 00:50:45.909
completely different from what we're discussing here. It's more on the political side.

661
00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:51.179
And if you are in Lebanon and
want to tune into Light FM, they'll

662
00:50:51.219 --> 00:50:54.579
be a show of five minutes show
twice a week where we're discussing going back

663
00:50:54.579 --> 00:50:59.900
to had solos new comment, which
is positive news. You know, let's

664
00:50:59.980 --> 00:51:02.699
talk about things that are going right
in this world and what people are doing

665
00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:07.530
right in this world and giving them
a chance to shine, because those bad

666
00:51:07.610 --> 00:51:13.530
guys, those non heroes, we
just we're sick of them, as I

667
00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:19.480
said, them dying. You know, reach if you guys want to follow

668
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.280
me on social media, foll me
on Instagram at Alan Dat Mahanna, and

669
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.840
I'm had. That's Solo. You
can also follow to them to screen on

670
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.280
the scripted screen official had. You
can say the rest. By UK.

671
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.389
You can follow us on scripto screen
official. You can check out our website,

672
00:51:36.510 --> 00:51:42.110
script to screen dot M. Yes, yea website. I've totally new

673
00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:46.539
guys, and you can listen to
us on any platform you can imagine.

674
00:51:46.659 --> 00:51:52.019
So on CONI in the Middle East, spotify, soundcloud, I didn't know

675
00:51:52.059 --> 00:51:55.099
what it whatever. I found cloud. We're not on Soundcloud, but we

676
00:51:55.179 --> 00:52:00.380
are on Google podcast, on Apple, it on on soundcloud. Listen to

677
00:52:00.420 --> 00:52:05.690
us, not on soundcloud. So
let's got excited. It's okay. Make

678
00:52:05.730 --> 00:52:08.769
sure carried away and makes cure.
You subscribe lie some feedbacks, some good

679
00:52:08.809 --> 00:52:14.730
comments, some good ratings. It'll
help us climb the charts in the podcasting

680
00:52:14.809 --> 00:52:19.679
world. Please sitting bribe to script
screen. Thank you so much. We're

681
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.400
joining our screen as well, and
next week we've got our Halloween special before

682
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:28.440
we hopefully launched the brand new season
of an evolved, a more positive,

683
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.349
even more positive, scripto screen.
So thank you so much for tuning in

684
00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:34.269
screeners. Will see you next time.