Scrap Talk: IMPOSSIBLE Documentary with Colin Dingelstad

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Welcome to Scrap Talk, your inside look from
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three outsiders of combat sports, where we aren't
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experts, but we'll give you our opinions like
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we are anyway. Hello and welcome back to Scrap
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Talk. Today we have a pretty cool guest on the
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show. But joining us we have Scotty and that's
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not our special guest. We asked them all and
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that is also not the special guest and we have
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joining us as Colin Dinglestad and He is making
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a documentary. We've talked about on previous
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episode about His journey into MMA and we're
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glad to have you on Colin That's me here So we'll
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just we'll jump into it man. So you're 28 years
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old, correct? Right now. Yes in two months in
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September one month and 14 days. I'll be 29.
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So 29 old So you're making this documentary and
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what it is is Colin being starting his journey
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and in May at 28 years old Wanting to prove that
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he can become a MMA champion prove to you know,
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that impossible tasks aren't impossible You know
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hence the name of the documentary, but he wants
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to you know He's a father and he wants to show
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that this you know to his child that you know,
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you know Can do you can do anything you put your
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mind to so Colin set forth with you know, he's
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not a he's not a boxer He's not a wrestler. He
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started a journey in the MMA at 28 years old
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and his goal is to become a champion He's getting
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the best coaches in the world. He's getting I
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mean he's going through it and You know, he's
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he's he's setting himself up doing it the right
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way But he's he's trying to prove to not just
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himself there by like impossible tasks are impossible
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so Colin tell us a little bit about your your
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documentary what got you started and want to
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make it and how you got to where you are within,
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whose direction. Just give us an info, man. Yeah,
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I think at the end of the day, although we can
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be for anybody really, but especially our children
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as an example, a role model, right? I think far
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too many of us, including me, I've started a
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few companies and life was very comfortable.
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Like, not that I had a lot of money, but I could
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travel, I could do what I wanted. And I think
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eventually it gives you a feeling of numbness.
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Like you don't really feel alive anymore. You're
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just going through the motion. So I wanted to
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see if I could set a goal that would just be
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impossible to most people and just see if I could
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achieve it and hopefully to be a role model for
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him. So here we are. How did you get in contact?
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I think you told me Matt Cohen's directing it,
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correct? Yeah, correct. How did you get in contact
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with everybody and get started making this, making
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the documentary itself? Yeah, I think most people,
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they think too small. All the people that think
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too big, they don't actually execute. But I think
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everybody should just go over the options and
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be like, what am I uniquely skilled at that has
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some kind of chance of me pulling it off, right?
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There are only like a few things in the world
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that you can truly be exceptional at. So I wrote
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a list of like all the different things I could
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do. and becoming an MMA champion like that once
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the one that actually felt really true and I'd
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always been really I'd always been watching and
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I had trained a little bit like two weeks of
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boxing like I was a white belt in jiu -jitsu
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three days of wrestling like almost nothing but
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I'm I always felt like I want to do more with
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this but I didn't want to put the time in Um,
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so when I wrote it on my list, I'm like, what
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if I just see if it can become like a champion,
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right? Most people train when they're the Dagestani
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people, the Russians, they train when they're
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like one year old wrestling with bears. I was
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like, what if I can do it at the age of 28, almost
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29 right now? Wouldn't that be something? And
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even just the pursuit would be, would be amazing
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in that sense. So when I committed to the goal
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and like it fell in line, I just started reaching
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out to everybody. I knew I'm like, who do you
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know that does fighting? Like, who do you know
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that? can help with this, right? And then one
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thing led to the other. And eventually I'm talking
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to Matt Cohen, who is a Hollywood actor and producer.
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And I'm like, did I end up on a call with him?
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What does he have to do with this whole thing?
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And initially I wanted to do it on YouTube. And
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it was just like, we do a YouTube series and
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we do it in the right way. And he was like, no,
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man, we're going to put you on Netflix, Apple,
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Amazon, all the big names going to have like
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three, like here's how we're going to do it.
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He's a massive fight fan and he's like, the first
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thing that we're going to do is we're going to
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fly to New York and we're going to train in this
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Trinity boxing club. Like this is old school
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gym. It looks like a Hollywood movie set. And
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there's a gold and glass boxing champion is going
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to train you. And, uh, when can you leave them?
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Like, like tomorrow, like so within 48 hours
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we flew to New York to get on, to, uh, to make
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it happen. And then from that, that same day,
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my buddy, Jonathan Waters also connected me to
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Matt. He's like, I might know Rico Rodriguez,
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the former UFC heavyweight world champion. And
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Matt was like, make the connection. Like, like,
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let me talk to him. Let me talk to him. Right.
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So as I'm going through day one with the camera
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people trying to be in the right position, trying
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to, um, we had a photographer coming as well,
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award -winning photographer. Like, like, so it
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was a lot, like it was quite overwhelming. I
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flew through the night and no sleep. Um, and
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then at the end of the day, cause Matt and I
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was sleeping in the same, uh, same house and
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he was like, I did it. Like we're going to see
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Rico tomorrow and he's going to take you through
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three hours of the most brutal training known
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to mankind. And he's going to see if you have
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what it takes. Right. And then he built that
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gym from scratch. Like he built his own gym with
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like two octagons, everything, sauna, cryo, his
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own fitness center. Like it has everything. Like
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he doesn't own the gym, but he built the gym.
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And yeah, from one thing, one thing led to the
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other. And then we just kept going. That's excellent
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Colin. I'll tell you I'm exactly ten years and
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four days older than you and everything You've
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already said it's inspirational to me just in
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the very short conversation We've had so I can
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definitely see the vision of what you want to
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get out there with this documentary You know,
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we were chatting very briefly before we hit record
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and you mentioned everybody's gonna already notice
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it from hearing it You're you're from the Netherlands
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originally and and my first question you've kind
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of answered a little bit already I was gonna
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ask you the very basic question of what background
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in MMA do you have? You mentioned your white
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belt jiu -jitsu, you were in a box. What age
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did you start that? Did you start that when you
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were still in Netherlands or was it here recently
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that you did that? Actually, I made a list when
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I was 19, so I left home when I was 18 and then
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I went to Italy and then I eventually went to
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Nepal and I tried to start my first business.
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And in Nepal, I made a list. I actually haven't
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shared this with anybody. But I made a list about
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how my, my ultimate self would look like, and
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I didn't think about being like a champion or
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anything like that. But it was like, I want to
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be able to run a marathon. I want to be able
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to run that eventually end up being, I want to
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be able to run an ultra marathon. I want to have
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these weightlifting stats. I want to have this
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kind of flexibility. And it was just a whole
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list was like a whole page of like every kind
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of physical stat, like a video game character.
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And one line on that was like, I want to be able
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to give a professional fighter some kind of a
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fight. Like I won't win, but I want to give them
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strong kind of a fight. And that was it. Like
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there was nothing else to it. But a couple of
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years later, like four or five years later, when
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I was in Mexico, I found a trainer and I was
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trying to learn salsa to pick up women. And I
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was like, I'll try Muay Thai as well. So I went
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to this. Mexican gym like in the ghetto. At least
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that's how it felt to me. And this guy just started
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training me. And look, I did that just for like
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a week or so, but I really enjoyed it. I just
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realized how tough it was. It was, it was like
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bad, mad, bad, bad environment, like bad. Uh,
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everything, technique was bad. Like it was just
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pure Mexican style of like, you're going to,
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uh, punch him once and he's going to punch you
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back. So I stopped pretty quickly because I was
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like this is going to be very bad for my health
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and I need somebody who had a bit more skill
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in that sense. But that was kind of my first
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MMA experience and I was probably 23 or 24 at
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the time. So that's how I started. And then nothing
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for half a few years by the way, just nothing.
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So Paul and I'm curious, what weight class will
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you fight in? We have one crazy goal that that
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I haven't announced yet and again what we'll
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see right there's some issues with my shoulders,
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but Right now I should fight at 155 because I'm
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about 180 so I should comfortably fight at 155
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although some of the guys now are 185 190 I could
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also go to 145 because I'm like 511 so I would
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have a I would have good stats for 145 155 would
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be fine as well 170 would be Too much like those
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guys are like 190 200 pounds. So between 125
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55 What is your trajectory in terms of like?
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Have you actually had a professional fight yet?
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And when you do what promotion will be with?
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Yes, so we saw there's only two months ago. So
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it's pretty fresh. It's It's a lot of big talk
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at this stage We do have some world champs that
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said like you can do it So that does give some
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credibility to it, but it's still like we have
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a long way to go. So We had two options. One
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was just to do a lot of amateur fights like one
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a month or two a month and just a lot and then
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just go through the fire and then just see my
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mistakes and improve it and just probably get
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a lot of brain damage and injuries, but it would
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also be a fast. The other path was more cinematic
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as well. It's like learn boxing first for eight
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weeks at some, with some kind of a world champion
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and set yourself like the highest goal you can
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get, maybe a pro fight. Even if you don't win,
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it will show the progression. then do the same
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to a Muay Thai, like spend four to eight weeks
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to Muay Thai, then do eight weeks of Jiu -Jitsu,
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grappling, wrestling, everything in one go, just
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with the best people you can find. And then put
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everything together for your first MMA fight
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with Firas Ahabi or some kind of like, like GSP's
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coach or some kind of like really good training
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camp. And it seems slower in the beginning because
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it was delayed by like five, six months, but
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I think in the long run, having done those disciplines
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just so obsessively, I think it will, it will
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help. Well, you talked about just now training
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for eight weeks for boxing, eight weeks for different,
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you know, training camp, basically training camp
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after training camp. That's hard on your body.
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So do you have like nutritionists and all that
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with you or how you, how are you handling the,
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the strain to training puts on your body? Yeah,
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actually for me, the flight is the most difficult
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thing because I'm seeing my son in the weekends.
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So I. Because I didn't want to miss a single
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minute of time with him. So I am flying out Sunday
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night or Monday early morning. And then I'm back
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and I'm back Thursday night or Friday early morning.
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So that's actually, so some flights on the night,
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sometimes I don't sleep. I'm constantly traveling.
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So I constantly having a nutritionist that just
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flies with me, but it's, it's slightly too expensive
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at this stage. So I'm just doing, doing the best
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I can at where I'm at. I have somebody taking
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care of my meals, but when I'm traveling. I mean,
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I've been to maybe 15 cities in the last two
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months, so it's a lot. It's a lot. So I do my
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best when I'm at the places. It's a lot of smoothies,
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actually, green juices, smoothies, because that
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seems to be very easy to have and give me a lot
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of calories, just like almond butter, bananas,
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coconut oil, and that's like 1 ,000, 1 ,500 calories,
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just like that. Do you have any experience with
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weight cutting before? Um, I have a very different
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side of weight cutting. I've done it. I've done
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an 11 day water fast. We just only drink water
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and I lost I think 25 pounds in 10 days. So I've
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done it in a way that was like holistic in that
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sense. But I have not done anything else in there.
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How did you feel after that 11 days when you
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did the water fast? How did you feel like internally?
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Oh, blissful. Like it was one of the best experiences
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in my life. Like the first few days were difficult.
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But there were days where I barely had to sleep
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like maybe two, three hours of sleep because
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I think we process so much food through our body
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and it takes so much energy that we never give
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the body a moment to rest. And then you also
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realize, at least for me, how much extra energy
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I had. Like it was just like when nothing is
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focused on just processing bad stuff, right?
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Cause we all live in a toxic world. No pesticides
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go into your body. No, like none of that. Like
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it's. It was like heaven. I was like, wow, that's,
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that's how it was supposed to be. Just also complete
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focus. Like, like those Satori experiences where
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you just, again, it's also evolutionary, right?
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But if I saw somebody eating something, even
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like 50 feet away, I would just stare at them,
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like without realizing it would just be like
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almost hunting them. Just like looking at what
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they were doing. Just like, like Mike Tyson,
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when he tracks the ice like that. So yeah, it
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was good experience. Wow. Hope you're training
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with Rico Rodriguez, but who all are you training
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with? I mean sounds like you're all over the
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place right now Yeah, so um with the u .s. I've
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pushed my visa quite a bit in the last two three
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months, so I just don't want to Make it seem
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like I'm living in the u .s. Because I'm not
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right, but just by flying and flying are flying
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and flying out like every week I felt like I've
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been pushing the u .s. A lot because I have amazing
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training locations in New York in Miami, so I
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was like Mexico, which is where my son is as
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well. Mom is Canadian and I'm Dutch, but he's
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in, he's in Mexico. So I'm training right now
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in Romanza gym with this guy named Ignacio Nacho
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Barista, probably butchering his name. But that
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guy has trained at least 29 world champions from
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almost nothing. So one of the best coaches in
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the world and that's just boxing. So if everything
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goes well, I'm flying out tonight or tomorrow
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morning. Back to mexica city train for four or
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five days then review in the weekends we cover
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and then I'll be doing that for the next like
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five six seven weeks Wow Yeah Are you do you
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have like other gyms like you're planning to
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visit our coaches or how are you planning your
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You're like coordinating with different coaches.
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How are you balanced? How are you finding these
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gyms to go to? Are you planning them out contact
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them advanced? Do you have a list of gyms? You
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want to go to or how are you picking out how
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you're going to train? Yeah, it's, it's based
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a lot on going like almost like kissing a lot
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of frogs. Like I know that most people will not
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be the right fit, but some, but there are only
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a handful of people I could actually work with
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to accomplish this goal. Also a lot of the professional
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people that I've met that are like not world
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champion, but like let's say top 50, they've
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been discouraging about the vision. They've been
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like, it's not possible because they couldn't
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do it right. But every world champion or world
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champion coach is that like, of course you can
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do it. Like here's how we're going to do it.
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Right. So that's been a big difference. So again,
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like a lot of differentiating between who I can
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have access to and with boxing for me, there
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were maybe five gyms in the world that I could
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train at. Um, so it wasn't that much. So in Mexico
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city, I had a girl literally go to the gym because
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it's like an old school Mexican gym. Go to the
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gym, speak Spanish and see if we can make some
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kind of deal. And then. I love Terrence Crawford
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as well. Like I would hope to train with him
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one day, but it's in the U S so I didn't want
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to go to the U S didn't have also not reached
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out to him. Um, there were like four or five
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gyms. I basically died into Chad's team. Like
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who are the most decorated coaches of all time?
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Uh, undeniably based on, uh, who they've trained
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and who they've trained from almost nothing.
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Um, and it gave me a list of like 50 coaches
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and I five of them were like, for me, like I
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was like, this would be amazing if we could train
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with them. And yeah, then you just find a way
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to communicate with them. It's working so far.
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That's great. Are you in active production right
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now? So when you're going and training at these
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gyms, do you have cameras with you currently?
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Currently not, just because I almost couldn't
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train with them because of the cameras. So everything's
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happening where I was born with that 100%. Yeah.
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Cause every other gym Miami, New York, like,
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like that was all fine. Like there were no issues,
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but in this culture and I'm white, right? I don't.
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I speak a little bit of Spanish, but not much.
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So it's, it's like a lot of reputation in that
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sense. And the guy is older, like he's in his
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eighties. So there's a lot of gatekeeping in
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that sense as well. So basically they wanted
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to train me, but they wanted to talk about having
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the cameras. And I just said like, let's not
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do any cameras for the first one or two weeks.
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Let me just show you that I'm like not somebody
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who's just trying to rip you off. So that's what
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we're doing right now. And then I'll bring the
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cameras in the week after hopefully. So. We have
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a funny running gag on our podcast that I have
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to bring up wrestling some way in every single
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episode. So I'm going to check that box out here.
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You definitely don't want to end up being like
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CM Punk. You don't want that situation to come
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out to where that's kind of the idea and the
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look that you've got with after UFC fight. So.
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Yeah, no, I'm with you. And I think it also comes
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down to eventually my training partner should
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be four more current world champions, right?
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If it can be part of the Dagestani Campbell.
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Let's see, or GSP or also like, like some person
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that like mighty Mao is like somebody who's undeniably
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has done this at the highest level and they can
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spar with them. Of course the weight class and
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always the same. But if, if it, if I can comfortably
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go with professional finals, then that would
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give me a good indication that I'm ready. The
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title, the 155 belt in the UFC. Is that, is that
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how you. That's the goal, but there's some politics
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involved getting into the UFC. some open to if
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it would be a different organization the biggest
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thing would be I have to demolish my opponents
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in the amateur fights or like low level pro fights
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like I would have to like that would have to
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we have to systematically like make a plan for
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that because I can't just win just winning is
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not good enough like to get into the UFC I have
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to like show some things so uh that's also why
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I think this journey is more interesting uh to
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go Yeah, and I don't mean to sound skeptical,
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but I don't think it's just like a walk in the
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park, right? To get into the organization. No,
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no, absolutely not. I love politics and hopefully
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we'll have a bigger following as well. Well,
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we're just starting right now. There's some really
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big partnerships coming up. So with a bigger
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following that will help a lot as well. That
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we're adding value to the company. Definitely.
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You train much to just it sounds like right now.
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It's strictly boxing You want to say you mentioned
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Dagestan? Are you are you trying to find like
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a gym and Smith's black? Specializes in just
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sort of gyms that specialize in boxing and then
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later to kind of bridge it all together You want
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to kind of get a base of everything. Is that
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what you're trying to start off doing? Yeah,
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yeah, exactly. I want to go through the disciplines
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first and then put everything together within
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like four to eight weeks per discipline It's
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not that much but the way that I'm training is
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I'm trying to train six to ten hours a day And
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every extra minute that I have in watching studying
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tape, like going through anything, like even
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my whole social media feed, like it's just shorts
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about, in this case, boxing, and the next week,
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like in five weeks, it will be Muay Thai. So
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I'm completely immersing myself in the environment
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to speed up the learning curve. And a lot of
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situational sparring is helping as well. Not
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getting gun shy, not getting like immediately
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destroyed and just step -by -step getting the
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skillset, just like a video game. So one of the
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things that is not often talked about, but in
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this area, the mental game is almost, if not
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more important than the physical game, but just
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as important. What have you learned through this
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process so far about your mental growth, jumping
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in literally to the deep end? There's been one
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really cool brain hack that has made a really
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big difference in my entire life, really. You
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know sometimes when you walk into a room and
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you see maybe four people sitting? and you're
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like one, two, three, four, okay, that's four
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people, or five people or ten people, you can
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also just walk into the room and be like five
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or four, like you can see it in an instant, you
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don't have to use your mind to be slow and then
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figure it out that way. And the same with the
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techniques, like I realized that if I just see
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it and do it, instead of thinking in between
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or trying to even visualize it, which I used
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to do, like just visualize everything, I can
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understand move so much faster. And just in my
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entire life, it feels, it feels much easier to
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almost let, I don't know if it's the subconscious
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or whatever it is, but something is smarter than
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your, your slow processing grain. And I've been
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trying to use that much more. Well, and it's
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just a short conversation. I can tell you're
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very introspective and that's something that
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you have as an individual very strongly. Have
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you always been like that, Colin, or is that
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something that you feel like was developed or
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did something happen that made you kind of be
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like that? Yeah, it actually did. I think when
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I was at a 13, 14 or 15, I had a harder time
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getting mad at girls. And I was like, there needs
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to be some kind of way to solve this. And that
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led to self -development and then eventually
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psychology books and stuff like that. But at
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a certain point I was like, wait, I can improve.
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Like I can develop as a person by just like being
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like, don't sit this way. Don't slouch. Like
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just like my inner voice correcting myself. Before
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that, I don't even think I was doing any of that.
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Like maybe just purely out of instinct or emotion,
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if it would get angry or something like that.
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But that was a big shift for me. And then I never
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really looked back. And it actually got quite
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harsh like for two or three years. Like I didn't
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really balance out. It was just like, everything
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was criticizing. Like I have to sit straight.
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I have to move straight. I have to walk in this
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way. It was really helpful, but it was also exhausting
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looking back. And then eventually that voice
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calmed down and then... That kind of became my
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new habits and yeah, that's helped a lot. So
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after that It's a good thing that 13 year old
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you didn't learn the hack of all you had to do
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was move to america and just talk with your accent
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and every single girl would just fall for you
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immediately, so He wasn't one of the psychology
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books as well You talked about different gyms
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you train different styles you train what's your
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favorite style you train and what are some fighters
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that you like? looked up to before you started
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training, like guys you want to emulate or whatever.
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Yeah, the big guys for me are GSB, Habib and
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Demetrious Johnson, mostly because they embody
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a style of taking very little damage, right?
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They've all been in very, I mean, Demetrious
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Johnson, like he got badly knocked out with a
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knee, but for the most part, they've all had
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a style of minimizing damage. They are still
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They can still at this stage like beat almost
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anybody in the world So they have longevity they
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they were very smart on how they were doing it
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and they were trying to make it into a system
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instead of brawling and I'm trying to do the
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same thing like system dies and gamified whole
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thing Well, have you been an MMA fan your entire
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life like dating back when you were young? Did
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you did you fall in love or and not even just
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MMA combat sports in general? I think I think
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where I grew up it was just soccer like I played
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soccer from the age of five to 18 and then I
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left. And I think eventually maybe like four
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or five years later, I stole my first UFC fight.
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So it wasn't in there. It wasn't a big thing
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in my life at all. I do remember when I was maybe
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like seven or eight, there was this Jiu Jitsu
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gym a few times away and we drove past it with
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my family. And I was like, can I train there?
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Just, I was like, that seems really cool. And
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my dad was like, Oh, that's pretty far away.
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Like, like if you really want to, we could do
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it, but it's a bit of a hassle. And then I was
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just like, okay, don't worry about it. So yeah.
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Just do me a favor. Are you going to reach out
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to Boss Rutan at all? I would love to. He's one
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of my inspirations. I think he's amazing. He's
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incredible. Right now I don't have a direct path
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to reach out to him, but maybe in the future.
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So I know Rico Rodriguez used to train with him
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back when him and Mark Kerr and all those guys
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:50.819
were training together. So maybe re care of things.
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We actually have a way to him. I didn't think
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about that. Thank you So, all right now do me
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.640
a favor So if you get to just let me know I'm
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.900
like, you know happy to send me an autograph
00:25:02.900 --> 00:25:04.579
or something because that would be awesome I've
00:25:04.579 --> 00:25:08.460
worked at DeVos written for Over 20 years. So
00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:10.819
that would be let's fly in this train step on
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That'd be amazing. You know, one of the things
00:25:13.619 --> 00:25:15.680
that we've learned in starting this podcast is
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kind of how And you're right, there's a lot of
00:25:18.509 --> 00:25:20.609
politics, there is a lot of gatekeeping. It's
00:25:20.609 --> 00:25:24.289
a very tradition -rich sport, tradition -richs
00:25:24.289 --> 00:25:26.970
training, all of that. Having said that though,
00:25:27.250 --> 00:25:30.970
we've learned how open the community is and how,
00:25:30.970 --> 00:25:33.690
you know, wanting to help and contribute the
00:25:33.690 --> 00:25:35.490
community is. Have you felt that way as well
00:25:35.490 --> 00:25:38.170
too, once you're diving deep into it? Yeah, for
00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:40.529
me, when Rico was trying to, I guess, destroy
00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:42.009
me, right, to see what that was made out of,
00:25:42.130 --> 00:25:44.740
like three hours non -stop, like... It wasn't
00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:46.700
like do 10 reps. It was like do a hundred to
00:25:46.700 --> 00:25:49.059
200 reps of everything without stopping. And
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I was just, there was not a moment when I wasn't
00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.180
breathing to like, like at my maximum, like it
00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:57.740
was constant destruction, sparring, situational
00:25:57.740 --> 00:25:59.240
firing, a hundred kicks right leg, a hundred
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kicks left leg. That's a soul bike where you
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:04.400
use the hands with like, uh, I don't know, 30
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.099
seconds or one minute as hard as I could stand
00:26:06.099 --> 00:26:07.940
two minutes on my threshold when I could barely
00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:09.400
breathe just to break off for a little bit. And
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:11.500
then doing that for like five, 10, I don't even
00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:13.279
know how many, like I couldn't think of that
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.609
fish, but like. a lot of reps like three hours
00:26:15.609 --> 00:26:18.309
straight then get off the bikes and just throwing
00:26:18.309 --> 00:26:20.190
a medicine ball on my abs while I had to like
00:26:20.190 --> 00:26:22.170
do some kind of like crunches and it was just
00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:25.109
complete destruction but as that was happening
00:26:25.109 --> 00:26:27.789
and Rico was like don't waste my motherfucking
00:26:27.789 --> 00:26:30.230
time right he was he was trying to destroy me
00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:33.390
there were also 10 -15 other people I had a camera
00:26:33.390 --> 00:26:36.789
team I had Matt Cohen with me I had pro fighters
00:26:36.789 --> 00:26:38.930
at the gym and they were all so encouraging they
00:26:38.930 --> 00:26:40.890
were just like keep going don't give up keep
00:26:40.890 --> 00:26:43.390
going and There was a moment maybe two hours
00:26:43.390 --> 00:26:45.430
in when I just felt so much love. I was like,
00:26:45.529 --> 00:26:47.210
I know I'm being destroyed, but there was just
00:26:47.210 --> 00:26:49.470
so much love of people that were there just trying
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to get me through that stage by encouraging me
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with the kindest words that maybe I've heard
00:26:54.630 --> 00:26:59.910
in my life. So yeah, amazing community. Not that
00:26:59.910 --> 00:27:03.490
I have much advice I can give. I fought for several
00:27:03.490 --> 00:27:07.390
years and grappled for over half my life. My
00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:09.690
one advice if you go to a gym and they're not
00:27:09.690 --> 00:27:12.250
welcoming like that not trying to encourage you
00:27:12.250 --> 00:27:13.769
that's probably it's honestly probably not a
00:27:13.769 --> 00:27:16.450
good gen because Almost every gym I've been to
00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.150
with guys that are world champions or super high
00:27:19.150 --> 00:27:21.609
level fighters You know, they're always the guys
00:27:21.609 --> 00:27:23.289
wanting to help and want to teach and want to
00:27:23.289 --> 00:27:27.069
encourage you and it's the guys that you know
00:27:27.069 --> 00:27:29.690
Have huge egos that never accomplish crap. Those
00:27:29.690 --> 00:27:31.730
are the guys that try to try to tell you you
00:27:31.730 --> 00:27:33.890
can't do that crap You can't do that your You
00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:35.710
know then try beating you up to make an example
00:27:35.710 --> 00:27:37.630
of you or whatever because you know They've been
00:27:37.630 --> 00:27:40.029
doing it longer. So that's my one piece of advice
00:27:40.029 --> 00:27:43.369
if I have any I can give you is If they're if
00:27:43.369 --> 00:27:44.990
it's a good gym, they're going to be welcoming
00:27:44.990 --> 00:27:46.710
if they're good fighters are going to be welcoming
00:27:46.710 --> 00:27:49.269
i'm not ran into one in my entire time of grappling
00:27:49.269 --> 00:27:53.410
that wasn't a Like when I moved to brazil for
00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:55.289
grappling, you know what I mean? Like they are
00:27:55.289 --> 00:27:56.930
all trying to speak english and all immediately
00:27:56.930 --> 00:27:58.630
trying to help me the best they could I knew
00:27:58.630 --> 00:28:00.589
I knew right then it was uh, that was the gym
00:28:00.589 --> 00:28:03.650
for me. So But that's, that's my advice. If I
00:28:03.650 --> 00:28:07.589
can get any. Amazing. Yeah. You know, the three
00:28:07.589 --> 00:28:09.609
of us are based in Oklahoma. I don't know if
00:28:09.609 --> 00:28:11.529
you know that, but our listeners will know that.
00:28:11.950 --> 00:28:13.890
And, you know, in Oklahoma, just north of where
00:28:13.890 --> 00:28:15.910
we live, Stillwater, Oklahoma state, it's a big
00:28:15.910 --> 00:28:17.869
wrestling community. It's a big wrestling state.
00:28:18.410 --> 00:28:21.430
I think most people would say wrestling is probably
00:28:21.430 --> 00:28:24.190
the best base to have in MMA. It kind of creates
00:28:24.190 --> 00:28:26.650
the best launching pad for everything else. You
00:28:26.650 --> 00:28:28.170
mentioned that you've done a little bit of wrestling
00:28:28.170 --> 00:28:29.829
work so far. Can you talk about that a little
00:28:29.829 --> 00:28:32.269
bit more? deep have you dived into the wrestling
00:28:32.269 --> 00:28:34.470
technique and, and, and what are your fundamentals
00:28:34.470 --> 00:28:37.450
there? Yes. So I was training at AMG in Miami
00:28:37.450 --> 00:28:40.089
and they had the national champion. Yeah. That's
00:28:40.089 --> 00:28:43.509
a national, I'll call his name for you, but that's
00:28:43.509 --> 00:28:45.710
the national champion there. And he was, he was
00:28:45.710 --> 00:28:48.430
actually showing me some interesting concepts
00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:51.009
because I was very surprised about how he was
00:28:51.009 --> 00:28:53.069
teaching wrestling. It was like flow, like breathe,
00:28:53.950 --> 00:28:55.910
like, like almost like be like water. And I thought
00:28:55.910 --> 00:28:58.450
wrestling was like. Like, like the earth element,
00:28:58.549 --> 00:29:01.509
like destroy, like grade through somebody. Um,
00:29:01.869 --> 00:29:05.230
so that was, that was incredibly inspiring really.
00:29:05.890 --> 00:29:07.990
So he, he was training me, I was training with
00:29:07.990 --> 00:29:09.930
the Saints brothers as well, like state champions.
00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:12.430
I was training with Michael Sains. He was the,
00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:15.670
he won the ATCC West Coast trials. And they were
00:29:15.670 --> 00:29:17.730
all showing me some of the best wrestling techniques
00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:21.309
they had, but they were very, they had a very
00:29:21.309 --> 00:29:24.519
heavy emphasis on you can't. They were saying
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.920
like, you can't just do wrestling because you're
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.519
going to get submitted. Like you have to be aware
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.519
of the submissions that can happen as you do
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.099
a takedown. Um, so to me, that was incredible
00:29:36.099 --> 00:29:38.839
because first of all, it wasn't just like headbutt
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:40.380
and like break your teeth, which is a lot of
00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:44.400
wrestling cultures. Um, like, but they were just,
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.279
they were almost like technicians. Like they
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.880
were just like smooth, make it perfect. Like
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.630
find the opening, be like water, right? So that
00:29:52.630 --> 00:29:55.069
made a massive difference. So they showed me
00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:58.569
three takedowns and I've done a few times due
00:29:58.569 --> 00:30:00.690
to grappling since. And of course the level there
00:30:00.690 --> 00:30:03.789
in wrestling is much less, but I could hit every
00:30:03.789 --> 00:30:06.589
takedown every single time, even on black belts.
00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:10.650
So it went pretty fast. Of course the different
00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:13.250
levels of black belt, right? Like it's not like
00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:16.289
a Royal Champion black belt. But a black belt
00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:19.140
nonetheless is still something... has been there,
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.680
so if you're taking them down, you're obviously
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.680
a step up in the game already, so obviously you're
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.740
making pretty solid progress quickly, it sounds
00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:29.380
like. Yeah, and so my trainers really, they make
00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:31.299
it simple for me, they save me a lot of time.
00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:34.099
I'm really fortunate as well about all the private
00:30:34.099 --> 00:30:35.960
lessons that I've gotten because we have cameras,
00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:38.460
and there's definitely an extra element that
00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:41.160
adds to it, but also with XMM Mexico, it really
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.779
almost kills the entire thing, so it's good and
00:30:44.779 --> 00:30:47.130
bad at the same time. You know, now I want to,
00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:48.829
I want to stress for, before I ask this question,
00:30:48.829 --> 00:30:52.289
I'm not asking you what your best area is. I
00:30:52.289 --> 00:30:53.750
don't want you to give any secrets. I don't want
00:30:53.750 --> 00:30:55.109
you to give anything out there that could be
00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:57.390
used against you in the future, but diving into
00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:58.930
the different techniques and kind of looking
00:30:58.930 --> 00:31:01.869
at them so far, what is the one that you kind
00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:04.829
of feel the best in? Like, do you connect with
00:31:04.829 --> 00:31:10.069
the best individually? I actually have like,
00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:12.269
like you're seeing it actually on Instagram right
00:31:12.269 --> 00:31:15.380
now. And I used that one for the last. three
00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:17.299
months without knowing it was a technique. So,
00:31:17.339 --> 00:31:20.299
uh, you know, when you, how do you describe it
00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:22.839
in the best way? If my right leg hits your right
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.720
leg and I do like a barembolo on the grounds,
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.819
when I'm in mounts, for example, and then I take
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:29.059
your back with that, you can hit that one from
00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:31.299
a takedown. So it's like a double leg combination,
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.099
but you, you, you just hook the leg. And in judo,
00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:35.859
it has like a different name as well, where you've
00:31:35.859 --> 00:31:37.839
got like hooked, uh, where you put your arm over
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:39.559
their legs. So it's just like your whole body
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.420
goes on one leg. Um, and they will fall, but
00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:44.509
they can take your back. from that position.
00:31:44.609 --> 00:31:47.490
So you have to roll through to make the technique
00:31:47.490 --> 00:31:50.309
successful in, in grappling. Um, and I've hit
00:31:50.309 --> 00:31:53.210
that one on, on like the highest level guy was
00:31:53.210 --> 00:31:57.430
a European. He was the number two in European
00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:59.589
wrestling. Oh, he's older now. He's like, he's
00:31:59.589 --> 00:32:02.950
like 45, but I hit that one on him. Um, you just
00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:05.470
dive on it. Like you just, it's almost like you,
00:32:05.549 --> 00:32:07.589
you just hug that leg with, with your right leg
00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:10.430
on their right leg. You hug it with your leg
00:32:10.430 --> 00:32:12.210
goes around their leg and it's very difficult
00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:13.960
for them to do anything. Like, they can only
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.180
really take your back, but if I put my whole
00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:18.279
body weight on that one leg, like, you're gonna
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.759
fall. Like, it's very tough to keep standing.
00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:23.359
You mentioned that you had a soccer background
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.940
when you played soccer. I think you said since
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:27.200
the age of five. Based on what you're telling
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.200
me now, I'm gonna assume you're a pretty athletic
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.759
individual. Yeah, I'm pretty explosive, pretty
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.079
fast. Yeah. It's hard to compare to other people
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.839
because I... Like, for example, we did a test
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.680
just to... We wanted to make a video about this,
00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:41.960
but I never did it because... We wanted to see
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.799
if I could sprint 100 meters under 12 seconds,
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.059
right? The world record is like 9 .58, so that's
00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:49.599
still very slow compared to them. But under 12
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.119
seconds is like a good athlete level. So I wanted
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.420
to work my way up and train to that level, but
00:32:56.420 --> 00:32:59.500
on my first attempt bare feet, I already hit
00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:02.680
that, so it was like 11 .8 or so. So I think
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.000
I rode it. Yeah. Look at you, man. Hell yeah.
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.089
Also. soccer background, I'm sure you kick probably
00:33:10.089 --> 00:33:14.269
pretty hard. That is one thing that my shins
00:33:14.269 --> 00:33:16.130
are pretty solid. Like it's not Muay Thai solid,
00:33:16.430 --> 00:33:19.869
but I even in soccer itself, I knew that my shins
00:33:19.869 --> 00:33:22.589
were harder than other people. Like one of my
00:33:22.589 --> 00:33:24.130
girlfriends, we used to call like razel shins.
00:33:24.190 --> 00:33:26.490
Like she wouldn't like to cuddle me in one certain
00:33:26.490 --> 00:33:28.029
position because like my shins would just feel
00:33:28.029 --> 00:33:31.430
like razels on my body. She would get so pissed
00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:33.809
and she would touch me. Don't touch me to razel
00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:37.049
shins, right? So I always felt like I had strong.
00:33:37.690 --> 00:33:40.089
40 to my legs and all people I don't know about
00:33:40.089 --> 00:33:42.009
the upper body because I think that's pretty
00:33:42.009 --> 00:33:44.869
more neglected just because soccer is mostly
00:33:44.869 --> 00:33:47.970
Legs in a sense is less physicality in that sense.
00:33:48.269 --> 00:33:50.650
But yeah, I do feel my lower body I think with
00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:53.390
the kicks that that won't that will help can
00:33:53.390 --> 00:33:57.150
you feel like there's been a a Transition a learning
00:33:57.150 --> 00:33:59.730
curve in learning to work with your hands boxing
00:33:59.730 --> 00:34:03.269
things to that nature Yeah, if I break it down,
00:34:03.269 --> 00:34:05.670
I'm definitely most naturally skilled in jujitsu
00:34:06.589 --> 00:34:09.469
from what I can see in a short period of time.
00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:12.650
Then I would say the little bit of moita that
00:34:12.650 --> 00:34:15.750
I've done with kicking, I feel I have a lot more
00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:18.829
accuracy in my legs than other people just because
00:34:18.829 --> 00:34:22.949
soccer. Because we were used to hitting a ball
00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:25.750
from any angle. And the Netherlands is a big
00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:28.090
soccer country, so it's decently high level.
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:32.429
So probably moita and gg2 will be my strongest
00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:34.760
base. And then I really want to double down on
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.480
wrestling because it's just so important. And
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.099
that boxing is the one that I'm actually most
00:34:39.099 --> 00:34:41.239
scared of. Not even Muay Thai. Like boxing is
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.619
the one I'm most scared of. You're most scared
00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:48.340
of boxing? Yeah. That's funny. You say that was
00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:49.880
me too. I'm too pretty to get punched in the
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.360
face is what I always said, but what about it?
00:34:52.579 --> 00:34:55.500
What about it is what kind of scares you about
00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:58.380
boxing? It's and getting punched in the face,
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:03.099
but it's also I, I think I'm I don't like punching
00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:05.260
somebody else in my face. So we were in Virgil,
00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:06.980
New York, training with this guy, Bobby. He was
00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:08.920
a five time Golden Gloves champion. He's known
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.800
to be evasive. Like it's very tough to hit him.
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:13.900
I tried it. Like I couldn't, couldn't touch him.
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.440
Uh, like all out, like I couldn't touch him.
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.199
Like it was just so evasive. And of course I'm
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.219
not skilled, right. But he could do that apparently
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:24.159
with pro fighters with anybody. And we were doing
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.840
a drill where we were just doing a jab and a
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.260
cross and the other person was defending. So
00:35:29.260 --> 00:35:30.619
one person was parrying and the other person
00:35:30.619 --> 00:35:34.010
was just. jabbing and crossing and we had just
00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:37.190
spent an hour working on my jab on my cross and
00:35:37.190 --> 00:35:40.130
they were looking from what I heard really really
00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:42.610
good like very good like the camera people like
00:35:42.610 --> 00:35:45.449
like they were very happy with what was happening
00:35:45.449 --> 00:35:48.250
a lot of power like a lot of speeds like pull
00:35:48.250 --> 00:35:50.449
the bag as quickly as I could and then we were
00:35:50.449 --> 00:35:53.849
doing these sparring drills and like Bobby keeps
00:35:53.849 --> 00:35:55.630
shaking his head he's like what the hell are
00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:57.510
you doing like like why are you hitting him like
00:35:57.510 --> 00:35:59.980
that like a girl but not even in a bad way to
00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:01.860
girls. He's like, why are you hitting them like
00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:03.880
that? I'm like, what? I'm trying like everything
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.739
I can. He's like, no, look how hard you're breathing.
00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:08.900
Like we did an hour long of just jabbing and
00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:10.420
straights without any breaks and you weren't
00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:12.579
breathing heavy at all. And now you're doing
00:36:12.579 --> 00:36:16.179
this, this, this two minutes and you haven't
00:36:16.179 --> 00:36:18.260
hit him once. Like I can see you tensing all
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the punches. Like, like this is horrible. And
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on the camera, you can see it. Like I was basically
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looking back, I thought I was maybe doing like
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70, 80 % of my power. But probably like in terms
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of what I actually had, I was doing like 10,
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15 percent. I was so terrified of hitting another
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person in the face because I wanted to be respectful.
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I'm in a different gym. I'm trying to try to
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be kind to them. So all these things, right?
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But I'm going against a, I think it was a pro
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vital, pro boxer, right? So eventually he's like,
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stop. He's like, hit me in the face. Like I won't
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even move my, hit me in the face. Like for fuck's
00:36:50.889 --> 00:36:55.559
sake, come on. So like, okay, like, yeah, like
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maybe like 30%, but he's like, okay, better.
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Right. Now go. Right. So that I definitely have
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to get over the thing of like hurting the other
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person. Cause with Jiu Jitsu, I can control another
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person. I don't have to hurt them. Like they
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can just tap, but I feel like with boxing, like
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I do think I have enough power to knock somebody
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out. Um, I've actually always felt that like,
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and back when I was younger, it was delusional,
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but I did feel like on that, there's a little
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punching bag. I could always hit one of the hardest
00:37:22.170 --> 00:37:25.030
if not the hardest out of all my friends. I was
00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:27.789
always concerned with hurting somebody because
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I was like, what if I knocked him out? What if
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I go to jail? What if he doesn't wake up? I have
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some deep rooted beliefs about it. It's paradoxical.
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Maybe I have a lot of power in my hands, but
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I don't want to hurt the other person. That's
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the one I'm overcoming. One of my favorite parts
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.340
of this entire process that you're putting out
00:37:48.340 --> 00:37:50.380
there is the fact that you're doing it specifically
00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:53.500
to show your son That you can do things that
00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:56.639
are that are hard that are impossible How so
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far has your son reacted to the process of going
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through this and like has he seen your growth?
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Does he just speak about that? I mean, he's turning
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three. So he doesn't know that much about it
00:38:06.380 --> 00:38:09.179
yet. He's young young Okay, all right. I've got
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a five -year -old son who would be just enamored
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.019
with everything that you're doing right now He
00:38:13.019 --> 00:38:15.570
would love it. So Yeah, the difference between
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3 and 5 is massive. He's almost 3, but that difference
00:38:19.090 --> 00:38:21.829
will be massive. So I can't wait for him to see
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it 3D. We'll wrap up. Is there anything else
00:38:25.190 --> 00:38:27.829
you want to let us know, talk about your documentary
00:38:27.829 --> 00:38:29.150
coming up that you want to let the fans know
00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:32.989
about? No, I mean, if you want to learn anything
00:38:32.989 --> 00:38:35.170
else about me, I wouldn't go to my social media
00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:36.510
right away. We're still building that. That will
00:38:36.510 --> 00:38:38.489
be like one to three months out before something
00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:41.309
good will be published. But impossible documentary,
00:38:41.469 --> 00:38:44.409
just like one word, impossible documentary. dot
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com You can find everything with the score in
00:38:46.929 --> 00:38:49.989
the background in vessel decks media kits like
00:38:49.989 --> 00:38:52.849
anything you want Great. Well, we're gonna continue
00:38:52.849 --> 00:38:54.590
pumping this out. We're gonna check in with you
00:38:54.590 --> 00:38:56.230
regularly We hope that you'll stay in contact
00:38:56.230 --> 00:38:58.710
with us throughout this entire process I'm not
00:38:58.710 --> 00:39:00.510
gonna speak for Derek or speak for Scotty or
00:39:00.510 --> 00:39:03.010
anyone individually But just be personally what
00:39:03.010 --> 00:39:05.170
you're doing and having this brief conversation.
00:39:05.170 --> 00:39:08.969
It is beyond inspiring I think it's it's an amazing
00:39:08.969 --> 00:39:11.559
thing that you're doing and I can tell your your
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:14.260
mental strength and your ability to push forward.
00:39:14.900 --> 00:39:17.960
You're one of the 1 % out there, sir. So very
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.019
big gratitude to you for doing it. And then even
00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:22.260
more, thank you for having the cameras that are
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:23.980
with you to show other individuals that it can
00:39:23.980 --> 00:39:26.780
be done. You just gave me goosebumps. Thank you
00:39:26.780 --> 00:39:32.880
so much. That means a lot. Thank you. Well, thanks
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.760
for joining us. And yeah, we'll close this one
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.199
out. But again, we really, really appreciate
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.230
you and everybody. You know listening be sure
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:44.409
to go to impossible documentary .com check it
00:39:44.409 --> 00:39:47.969
out the trailer hooked me like that So I know
00:39:47.969 --> 00:39:50.070
it will anybody else that watches it. So thank
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you again, sir, and we hope you have a good night
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That is it for this round of Scrap Talk. We will
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