00:00:00Intro
00:00:28Learning DevRel from real-world users
00:02:26What matters pre-launch in DevRel
00:06:25What Keycard is building for AI agents
00:11:27How AI is changing DevEx and docs
00:19:15Measuring DevRel without oversimplifying it
00:23:53Relationship value vs revenue metrics
00:26:57DevRel in product vs marketing
00:28:59How Kim thinks about metrics at Keycard
00:30:54The developer empowerment flywheel
00:37:40Applying the flywheel at Keycard
00:39:57Advice for DevTool startups in the AI era
00:46:16Where to find Kim and Keycard