“It Sounded Like The Predator” | Leslie’s Encounters in British Columbia And East Texas

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Welcome everyone to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight I'm joined by Leslie
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from Texas. She'll share some unsettling experiences that began in
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East Texas. After the unsettling experiences in East Texas, the
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activity followed her to her home. Later on, Leslie traveled
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to British Columbia, Canada to do some Bigfoot research and
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she experienced a lot of activity there. Before we get started,
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if you've had an encounter of your own, send it
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to me at SasquatchTheoryAtOutlook.com and be sure to subscribe to
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the channel for more eyewitness stories. With all that being said,
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let's dive straight into Leslie's Bigfoot experiences from Bigfoot. Texas
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and British Columbia, Canada. Leslie, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How
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are you doing today?
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I'm doing great, Miguel. Thank you for having me. How
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are you?
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I'm doing excellent, and it's an absolute pleasure to have
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you on the show today. Leslie, if you would, tell
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me a little bit about yourself and your experiences from
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the very beginning.
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Okay. I'm a native Texan. I live in the DFW area.
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I was not Was not originally interested in Bigfoot as
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much as as the paranormal. When I was about 10,
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we moved to the country from the Metroplex. That was
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very different. But. In the country, I saw things that
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I couldn't explain, and I also. I'm very intuitive, and
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so I would have feelings that things were going to
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happen and. That didn't go over well with my family
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when I expressed those. So I kind of learned to
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keep that to myself and spend a lot of time alone.
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And as I got older, I heard about Bigfoot. And
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I think In Search of Bigfoot was probably... the first
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thing that I saw and I still have the book
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and was very interested and had heard people from the
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area say that they had seen footprints in certain places.
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I didn't know whether to believe that or not. But
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later I ended up doing paranormal work for people that
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were having problems. And I guess my first experience was
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one where I was with a group of people and
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that lived in East Texas, and somebody said, hey, there's
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an Indian burial ground behind my house. Would you like
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to go over there? And I said, oh, that sounds great. Yeah.
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And this area of East Texas is close to Texarkana,
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and the water table is very high. It was very cold.
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It was in the winter. And we were outside, and
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when we got to that location, my intuition said, you
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should not go in there. And I try to honor
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it because usually if I don't, I regret it. So
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I said, you know, I don't think I should go
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in there. I'm going to wait out here for you guys.
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So they took the one flashlight and went into this
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grove of trees. And after they went in, we had
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gone through a gate behind the house and I was right.
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We branched cattle all the time. I was growing up
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in the country. So we went through a metal, like
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a pasture gate and As I'm waiting for them to
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come back out, I hear large animals moving around me.
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And if you've been raised around cattle or horses or
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anything like that, you know, you can feel the vibrations
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and you know there's a heavy animal around you. And
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I felt these animals around me and I thought, well,
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they must be cows. We came through a pasture gate.
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I didn't smell anything, but in the winter, they don't
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smell nearly as much as they do when it's warmer.
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So That's I did. I really didn't think anything about it.
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After about, I don't know, maybe 10 minutes, they seem
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to have moved away from me. I didn't hear any
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sounds that I would say were cattle. But I just
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made that assumption because that's that's where my mind was
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at the time. And later, after we went somewhere to
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get warm, I asked the personnel in the property. I said, well,
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how long how long have you had cattle? And she said,
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we don't have any cattle. And I said, well, horses?
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She said, no, we don't have any animals. And I
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went on to tell her what I experienced. And there
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was no explanation given from this person. And I just
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kind of blew it off until years later when Bigfoot
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got my attention in other areas. And Looking back, I
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feel kind of foolish that it didn't even occur to
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me that it could have been Sasquatch that was around
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me because now they actually have conferences in that part
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of the state because Sasquatch is so prevalent. So that
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was probably my first, what I would call my first experience,
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because there's not another explanation for it. And then I realized,
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I have been very surprised. I have had things happen
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at my home and I never thought about Sasquatch coming
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into the cities. But now I've read enough and talked
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to enough people that I believe that they do. And
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I've had some things happen here in my home that
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are just can't be explained. So I did go on
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an expedition to Canada in 2022. to a known research
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site but it was just myself and one other woman
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and the intent was to go with a more of
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a loving feminine approach and to let them come to
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us and it was it was a very interesting trip
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was very interesting.
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If you would describe the things that you had happening
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at your house.
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Okay, so in 2017, I was having my fence rebuilt.
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And I wanted an eight-foot high fence. And I wanted
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the enclosed posts. And so I think they used 16-gauge
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metal pipe. And it rained one night a lot. And
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they didn't come back to work on the fence for
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a couple of days. When they came back, the... gentleman
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that was doing the fence called me and said, what
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happened to the fence? And I said, what do you mean?
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And he said, one of the posts is bent. And
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at the time I hadn't gone out and looked at
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the posts. I didn't know what they were like, but
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you know, 16 gauge galvanized steel is, I have a
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P I actually kept a piece because of that, because
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I said, maybe it was kids. And he's kind of like, no,
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it was not kids. And the area where my fence
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is backs up to a utility easement where you can't drive.
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And if anybody had been back there, they would have
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been slipping and sliding in the mud. I can't imagine
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how anything or anyone could have gotten leverage to bend
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a pipe like that. Certainly not humans. So that was
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one of the things that happened that was very, very strange.
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And the way that it hit the guy that was
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putting up the fence, it was very evident to me
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that this was extremely uncommon. So, you know, I believe
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that Sasquatch picks you. We don't pick them. And I
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think they picked me when I was in East Texas.
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I think they may have picked me when I was...
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Younger living in the country and I just wasn't aware
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of them at the time. But. After the fence issue,
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I've had a lot of things. I had the windows
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open one night. This was this year or no last year.
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I had the windows open one night.
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And.
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It literally sounded like a full grown man. or something
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bigger was hurling themselves up against the back fence. And
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I wasn't alone. There was another person with me and
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we were like, what is that? We even went out,
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we heard it like five times. The four on the
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fourth time we were going out the back door. And
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so we were actually out in the yard when it
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hit the fifth time. And I guess I, Some people
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would say, oh, why didn't you go look? The gate
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was locked and whatever was doing that was not something
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I wanted to have a face-to-face with at that moment.
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So that was odd. I've had, I have this eight
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foot high fence and it's smooth on the outside. All
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of the, the framework is on the inside for security reasons,
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but I have had, you know, wind spinners that are
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like six foot high in my yard with, you know,
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eight inch prongs pulled up out of the ground and
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just laid on their sides. Nobody can get into my backyard.
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That's not even, I mean, you'd have to bring a ladder,
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you know, to crawl over. So a lot of that
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kind of stuff things being moved that animals could not
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move and there's no people getting in here to do
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these things so it's been very interesting.
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Yeah absolutely And what happened on your trip, if you would?
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Let's talk about that.
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Sure. It was strange. And, you know, growing up down here,
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I knew that the wildlife would be completely different. It
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was in British Columbia. And so that was something I
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kept in mind. And watch videos about different kinds of bears,
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what to do, what not to do. And we carried
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bear spray and a knife with us wherever we went.
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But when we got in there, um, It was strange.
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I'll tell you this. This is kind of funny, but
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it was very odd. I looked over at one point
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and I saw what looked like a chicken. Now I
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know it was a grouse, but I'd never seen a grouse.
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And so I see this. It was a side profile
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of this chicken. And I saw this squirrel come out
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from the grass and sit there. Not nose to nose,
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maybe like eight or ten inches apart. And then they
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moved in a circle together, which was very odd. And
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then they stopped. And then they did it again. And
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then I looked at the other... the other woman that
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was with me. And I said, what in the heck
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is going on? And when I looked back, the squirrel
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was gone, the grouse and the grouse took off into
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the grass. That was like the first thing. And I thought,
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that is really bizarre. And she's from, you know, she's
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from up there and had been doing research in this
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area for two years. And she thought it was very bizarre.
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It was in July. It was kind of rainy. And
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It was prior to wildfire season, but things had been dry,
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so we knew we weren't supposed to have a fire
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or anything, and we didn't. But as we're sitting around
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waiting for them to come to us, we did things
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like foraging, gathering red clover and yarrow and making tea
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and things like that. We wanted them to see that
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we're like them in gathering things from the land. Um,
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while we were sitting around, we heard a few knocks
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and I had been shown some footprints and it was
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very clear that they were footprints and, and I had
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never been anywhere where there was muskegonite. That was a
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whole new world for me. Um, I don't know how
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many times I felt that on the trip. I just,
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it just got where it was just, it was just funny.
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Take a step and a rotten log underneath plunges down
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five inches and down I go. But it was just
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disconcerting to not have firm footing when I walked. It's
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very noisy in the forest there. And I, I wasn't
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familiar with that. So I, During, I'd say the second day,
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we'd been hearing a few knocks. Then I heard this.
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It was like a woodpecker. I have woodpeckers here at
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my home. But it was the cadence was wrong. You
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know what I mean? It was off. And I thought
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that's interesting because that's not a regular woodpecker. And so
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I heard that, you know, and I heard that a
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number of times. And then the next day, we heard
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what I can only describe as like two trees in
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the forest kind of rubbing up against each other, making
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a creaking or a groaning sound. Do you know what
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I mean by that? Yeah, I do. Okay. Okay. So
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we heard that, but it came from several different directions,
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which I thought was extremely odd. And because it moved,
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we felt like we needed to go into the woods
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and look for the trees that were responsible if we
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could find them. And I would say like many of
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the people that I hear on your show and other shows,
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you know, it's trying to think how to phrase this.
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When you start talking is when you, the noises start,
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the sounds start and you, I would think I heard
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something when we were talking. And then as soon as
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we stopped talking, it was silence. And I've heard a
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lot of people say that. It's very true. So we
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went in looking and we heard the tree groaning thing
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and we went toward it. And when we went toward
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it in front of us, then there was a really
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loud wood knock. And we started following it. Then we
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went up this hill and we heard another wood knock
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further away. But the woman I was with said, no,
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they're just leading us away. If we keep following, they'll
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just keep knocking until we're really far from camp. And
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she didn't want to do that because it was already
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getting kind of late in the day, even though I
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was horrified it didn't get dark up there until almost midnight.
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But being that we were out, it was like three
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hours from anything that we saw coming in. And there
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was no cell reception. Neither one of us had a
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satellite phone or anything like that or anything. nobody was
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going to come to our rescue if something happened to us.
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So we had to be cautious. And we had, we've
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walked a little bit in the woods the day before.
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But on that particular day, I saw a lot of mushrooms.
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I got to see a lot of the flora, the
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ferns I thought were beautiful, that kind of thing. So we,
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We stopped when this woman I was with, Lee, did
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not want to, she didn't want to pursue the Knox.
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And she wanted to go this other way. So the
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trail we were on, if you went straight on it
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and went left, that's the direction we had gone. If
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you went straight on it and went right, it went
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to a gifting location. Okay. So we went left and
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we had been walking for quite some time. And she
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became disoriented. And she was pulling out her GPS and questioning,
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you know, I don't remember this. Did we come this way?
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And I said, this is the way we came. However,
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I will say in my paranormal experiences, there have been
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times where I have found that things are suddenly different
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and don't look familiar. And I have learned to just
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stay still when that happens because they come back but
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she had never experienced that so she got very disoriented
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and we walked on and we ended up coming up
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the back side of the gifting location which is absolutely
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impossible because we did not go left on that trail
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and it's almost like a road we would have known
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if we had crossed that so That was really, really strange.
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And she she got real upset. And I said, look,
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I said, you know, whether you realize it or not,
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you're going to look back and realize this is really
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kind of was kind of a magical thing that happened.
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It doesn't happen all the time. It doesn't happen to everyone.
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And she said, but I want to go back. And
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I said, no, you don't want to go back and
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you don't want to go anywhere. And she started walking.
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I said, no, you have to stay here. And she said, well,
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I don't understand why. And I said, because if you
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go back there, you might not be able to get
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back here. Because I don't know. I can't tell you
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that I know exactly what is happening when it will stop. So.
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It took maybe 15 or 20 minutes for her to
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calm down. And we went back to camp and she was.
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But she was very, in a way, she was looking
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back and going, yeah, was really cool. I've never experienced that.
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But in another way, she was very upset that it
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had happened. Um, and like I said, that's happened to
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me on a number of occasions. And sometimes I was
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driving my car when it happened. Sometimes I was out
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walking on my family's farm when it happened. Um, But
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it does happen and I refer to it as liminal space.
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It's sort of a space in between. And. I know
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that things are different now than they were when I
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was young because. We used to struggle to catch anything
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on camera or video and now it's so easy. There are.
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There are things everywhere, so. I feel like the veil
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has been thinning or dropping for many years now. And
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more and more people are becoming aware. They're seeing things
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that they've never seen before. And it's not new. It's
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just new to people who couldn't see that before. So anyway,
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I digress. So let me go back to, we went back,
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went back to camp and talked about it quite a bit.
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The next day, I heard, we heard tree knocks. We
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heard the woodpecker. And then we heard the tree groan.
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And they were spaced out. But Miguel, what was probably
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the most bizarre thing to me is when those three
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noises later were done very close together, it is the
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predator sound from the movie. I mean, it is exactly
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that sound. And I thought, my God, somebody must have
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been out here and heard that. That must be where
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they got that idea. And I didn't have any inkling
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that when you put those sounds together, they would make
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that noise. So that was freaky. That was like, I
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think that was the first time I was really uncomfortable
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on the trip. And that night, we decided we were
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going to build a fire. It had been raining. We're
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going to build a fire. And Lee had said, yeah,
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the fire usually brings them in. So I said, okay.
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So we built a fire. And as I said, it
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gets dark so late there. By the time I could
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get to sleep, it was time to get up again.
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We're sitting by this fire and where the fire pit was,
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which had obviously been there for many years, there were ants.
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And you could tell when you walked on the ground
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around the fire pit area that it was hollow underneath.
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You could tell. So later in the evening, We had
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the fire going. I wish we hadn't because the crackling
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of the fire made so much noise on the recordings
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that I made that you really couldn't hear much about it. But,
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you know, I had no idea. So the tree groaning, woodpecker, woodknot,
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all that, that stopped. And then I heard this noise
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that I... Not being from there, I've been around deer
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and other animals, but it sounded like a deer that
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was in distress, like it was cornered, maybe. It was
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like a cry. And I thought, that's really odd. That's like,
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you know, the main smaller animal. serval up there that
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you go after i would think so why would you
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advertise your presence to predators in the area and over
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the course of the next i'd say hour hour and
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a half these cries became more and more distressed it
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sounded like this animal was running back and forth um
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the direction was very a bit and, but I couldn't
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understand why can't, why can't I hear anything in the underbrush?
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Why isn't there any noise from it running back and forth?
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And I asked my companion, but she, she said, well,
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she said, I think it was just sniffing us out earlier. And,
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you know, I said, is, Do you think it's a deer?
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And she said, well, it sounds like a deer, but
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it shouldn't be making that noise. So I'm deferring to
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her because I'm really not acclimated to that part of
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the world. But toward the end, it sounded like something
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was attacking it. And then we didn't hear it anymore.
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And Lee had seen them, the Sasquatch up there, from
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a distance. And she wanted to see one up closer.
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And so, you know, she would sit out there and
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she would try to mind speak with them and say, hey,
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I really want to see you. I really want you
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to show yourself to me. And she had told me this.
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We talked about it a lot. And So we were
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back by the fire after the deer noises or whatever
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they were stopped. And I heard something big in the
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trees behind me, behind where I was sitting by the
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fire pit. And I could feel, I could feel, it
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was like there was a thud and I could feel,
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a vibration from the ground when something moved behind me.
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And I stood up, but I didn't turn around because
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I thought, you know, this is her chance to see
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one up close maybe. And I don't, you know, I
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think seeing them is something, I think it's an honor
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that you have to earn. I don't think it's just
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an automatic given. I don't know if that makes any
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sense or not. But she'd been working to see them
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and communicate with them for over two years. And I thought,
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this is her experience. I'm already thrilled with the stuff
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that I've experienced. So she did see a shadow off
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to my left behind some tree limbs. But she got scared.
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And when she got scared, whatever it was, just... It
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just disappeared. There were no footsteps. There was no noise.
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There was nothing. It just disappeared. But within, yeah, so
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it was, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes later. And
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there was this thing, Miguel. And keep in mind, I'm
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used to being skeptical in all my paranormal investigations. I'm
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very skeptical. I'm very grounded and that extends out into
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all the areas of my life, everything that I deal with.
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But I didn't know what bears sounded like all the time.
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I didn't know every sound that a bear could make.
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Just like, you know, we have bobcats here that now
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come into my yard and that was something I was
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not familiar with. So some of the sounds bobcats make
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are really bizarre. So in my mind, I'm thinking, I
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don't know what that is. And I said, I'm going
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to get my recorder and put it out, which I did.
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This sound, I can only describe as a roar. It
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went like that. But it was like you could feel it.
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I mean, you could feel, your whole body could feel
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vibrations from this. And this was amazing. Let's say that
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where the deer sounds were coming from were at maybe
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1 o'clock. This thing was over at 3 o'clock. And
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it seemed to be moving toward 4 o'clock. And it
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was making this sound over and over again. But still,
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I could hear no underbrush breaking. Nothing. No sounds except
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for the roar. And... i don't know after maybe half
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a dozen times it sounded like it was coming toward
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us and lee asked me she said is that is
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that still making them i said yes it's going back
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and forth and i said but it's coming closer so
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we decided okay well we're going to get, you know,
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inside the vehicle. We're safe, safer, which we did. And
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I did get a little bit of audio where you,
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you can kind of, you can kind of hear it
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in the background. I don't know how to bring that up,
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but yeah, We got inside the vehicle where we felt
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safer and had a weapon. And we took our sweet
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time and properly freaked out over it because it was
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very strange. It was very, very strange because I was saying,
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what was that? And she was saying, well, what I
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heard was a deer. And I said, no, the roar.
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What was making the roar? And she said, I don't know.
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So later I talked to someone who had a lot
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of experience with bears and cougars and all the animals
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from up there. And he said, well, can you describe it?
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And so I did the best that I could. And
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he said, that's not a bear. That's not any of
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the normal animals up here. He said that was the Sasquatch.
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So That was really something. But I realized that I
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didn't care so much about recording from that point on.
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I wanted to hear and feel and experience whatever was happening,
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you know? So, I mean, there were some other things
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that happened, not anything that major to me. And I
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guess I'm like a lot of people. I noticed a
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lot of people don't ever actually see them. Things happen
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like this where they hear something, they know there's something
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big there, but for whatever reason, they aren't allowed to
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see them. And over the years, I've been doing the
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paranormal research for 35 years. over those 35 years, I
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have read an awful lot of books, watched an awful
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lot of documentaries, videos that people have created, blogs, all
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sorts of things. And this is kind of, a lot
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of people will not believe in this, but I'm going
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to put it out there anyway because I think it's valid.
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I think it's important information. And As we go along,
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as I go along in this life, I realize how
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little we truly know about so many things. So I
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can't say this is not possible and that's not possible
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because I don't know. Only the Creator knows those things.
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So have you ever heard of the Law of One?
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No, I haven't.
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Okay. These were a group of Christians. that were working.
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One of them was actually a psychologist. There was a
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woman who was very active in her church and she
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was able to go into a trance like Edgar Cayce,
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that kind of thing. And she was able to pick
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up these messages and she channeled information. And at the time,
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I had run across this years ago, but at the
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time I was like, I'm telling that to my mom. Okay.
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But later, I heard some of the things that were
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in this work and it's LL Research, the log one.
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And these are available as PDF documents online for anybody
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to read. But One of the things that would happen
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is the psychologist would ask questions through this woman. And
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at one point he asked, you know, this particular researcher
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brought by a cast of a four-toed Bigfoot. That's the
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way he referred to it, print. And I want to
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know if these, you know, what are these? And the
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answer that he got back was, in essence, if you
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take all of the comments that were about Bigfoot in
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these channelings, was there are three types of Bigfoot. And
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I don't know if you've ever heard of Maldek. Maldek
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was supposedly a planet. where the asteroid belt is now,
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but it became the asteroid belt. What is said is
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that it was inhabited and whoever lived on it blew
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themselves up in a war with somebody on Mars. And
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there are indications of a lot of damage on the
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surface of Mars. So, like I said, I can't say
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that that never happened. I can't say that it did happen,
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but In the Law of One, they say that one
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of these types was brought here from Moldeck and that
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00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:47.250
they had like more of an animal body, what they call.
475
00:35:47.630 --> 00:35:49.489
So when you go into the densities, if it's like
476
00:35:49.570 --> 00:35:54.550
first density, then that's like rocks, dirt, things that don't
477
00:35:54.590 --> 00:35:58.650
move at all. Second density would be animals and plants.
478
00:36:00.289 --> 00:36:05.489
Third density, of course, is us. But they said, you know,
479
00:36:05.510 --> 00:36:12.659
there is one type that is from Maldek. They were
480
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:18.619
brought here so that they could alleviate the karma they
481
00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:22.260
created by destroying their world. But they are not able
482
00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:28.239
to detect... humans and other animals so they are in
483
00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:34.289
very secluded uninhabited locations and then they said there's a
484
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second group and but they have higher consciousness than just
485
00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:40.170
an animal i mean they may have like an animal
486
00:36:40.630 --> 00:36:45.670
animalistic body but they have a higher consciousness the second
487
00:36:45.690 --> 00:36:53.650
type they said was again a second dimensional physical um
488
00:36:55.010 --> 00:37:01.289
But that they had been able to bring technological knowledge
489
00:37:01.329 --> 00:37:08.030
from past incarnations into their current lifetimes that allowed them
490
00:37:08.090 --> 00:37:12.320
to evade us very effectively. And that they were the
491
00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:18.340
ones that we know with the glowing eyes. And then
492
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.699
there's a third type, which they said were thought forms.
493
00:37:24.019 --> 00:37:29.360
And basically, Miguel, this is what I think. It's just
494
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.579
what I've come to think after so many years. I
495
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:38.619
think these are these cryptids that people see, but they
496
00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:44.670
never harm people that we know of. There's no, not even,
497
00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:48.769
I mean, there are a few reports of Sasquatch attacking people,
498
00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:55.570
but there are no... really credible accounts of rakes or
499
00:37:55.750 --> 00:37:58.849
dog man, or any of these things attacking someone. And
500
00:37:58.889 --> 00:38:03.699
what they said about these thought forms is they're not
501
00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:07.400
actually physical. And I think it's based on, it's sort
502
00:38:07.420 --> 00:38:11.929
of like, it's sort of like in Ghostbusters when they're,
503
00:38:14.550 --> 00:38:17.010
they know this, this thing is manifesting from all this
504
00:38:17.110 --> 00:38:19.730
energy and they're saying, don't think of anything bad. Don't think,
505
00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:21.809
don't think of anything bad. Think of something you loved
506
00:38:21.869 --> 00:38:25.289
as a child. And then this giant stay puff marshmallow
507
00:38:25.309 --> 00:38:29.469
man shows up. Okay. So I think the thought forms
508
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:39.079
somehow determine their form from our fears. But they're not,
509
00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:45.739
they're not allowed or able or capable of attacking, anything
510
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.070
that is considered third dimensional, which would be people. And
511
00:38:50.090 --> 00:38:53.389
then they say that like your dog, Yowie, Yowie knows
512
00:38:53.730 --> 00:38:57.150
he's an individual. He knows he's separate. He knows he's,
513
00:39:01.570 --> 00:39:05.889
he's individuated. So they would not be able to attack him,
514
00:39:06.349 --> 00:39:09.110
but they can sort of like in the stories at
515
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.880
skin Walker of that giant wolf that appeared and grabbed
516
00:39:12.900 --> 00:39:14.500
the calf and tried to pull it out of the,
517
00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:19.119
the corral or the pen, but they can't, they can't
518
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.820
attack people. So I know that sounds probably pretty wild,
519
00:39:24.619 --> 00:39:29.070
but I have over all these years, I have seen stuff.
520
00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:33.659
I've seen some bizarre stuff. And I have come to
521
00:39:33.699 --> 00:39:48.730
believe that aliens, ghosts, Sasquatch, fairies, cryptids, these are all
522
00:39:49.769 --> 00:39:54.840
Extra dimensional creatures. They're all capable. Of phasing in and out.
523
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:56.960
Of our world.
524
00:39:59.239 --> 00:39:59.500
And.
525
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.199
You know. Some of them. Some of us can see.
526
00:40:04.219 --> 00:40:09.909
And now. Many more people can see them. So I think.
527
00:40:10.340 --> 00:40:14.829
I think it's worth looking into. And at least. Trying
528
00:40:14.849 --> 00:40:18.989
to have an open mind. To consider that. The possibilities. Because.
529
00:40:21.989 --> 00:40:25.610
we just, we've been lied to all our lives. We
530
00:40:25.630 --> 00:40:31.079
don't really know so many things. So anyway, I wanted
531
00:40:31.099 --> 00:40:35.320
to share that. I think it's, uh, it's very, very interesting.
532
00:40:35.579 --> 00:40:38.780
They do a lot of topics and, you know, people
533
00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:42.679
can take it or leave it, but, um, I found
534
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.159
it to be very enlightening.
535
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.260
Well, I appreciate you for sharing that with me, Leslie.
536
00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:50.679
And what do you personally think the Sasquatch are?
537
00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:58.059
The Sasquatch that we, I think that we come in
538
00:40:58.099 --> 00:41:02.800
contact with most of the time, I believe are, I
539
00:41:06.139 --> 00:41:09.539
believe they're benevolent beings. They don't want to hurt us.
540
00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:14.650
They're just trying to live their lives. And they are
541
00:41:14.909 --> 00:41:20.210
able to shift in and out of our field of vision.
542
00:41:21.989 --> 00:41:26.409
um and into another dimension you know we've got way
543
00:41:26.489 --> 00:41:29.789
too many places where there are footprints that just disappear
544
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.460
um you know i have heard so many first nations
545
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.699
people talk about seeing them walk into a tree and
546
00:41:40.739 --> 00:41:44.849
they're gone or you know some of them shifting into
547
00:41:44.909 --> 00:41:48.750
a deer i don't I don't think those are the
548
00:41:48.789 --> 00:41:51.309
Bigfoot that you and I see. I think those are,
549
00:41:51.329 --> 00:41:55.099
I remember when Shane was on your show, I believe
550
00:41:55.139 --> 00:41:59.239
he was, he talked a lot about the Ojibwe Indians.
551
00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:06.889
And I think that those are the ones with the
552
00:42:06.929 --> 00:42:10.730
red eyes. Those are the ones that we don't really
553
00:42:10.769 --> 00:42:13.489
know their true form. If they have a true physical form,
554
00:42:13.630 --> 00:42:18.269
I think they're able to take on the form of, Sasquatch.
555
00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:23.550
But like I said, all the things that I've read
556
00:42:23.650 --> 00:42:29.590
back in the 70s, there was this massive invasion in Pennsylvania.
557
00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:32.659
There's a book by Stan Gordon. It's called Silent Invasion.
558
00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:41.420
There were hundreds of reports from people of seeing Bigfoot,
559
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:48.880
a lot of them in conjunction with flying saucers. There
560
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:57.480
were a lot of law enforcement that saw this. I
561
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:04.139
rarely hear any Bigfoot researcher discuss that at all. And
562
00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:06.510
I thought a lot about that because there were so many.
563
00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:10.179
They were peeking in mobile home park windows and people's
564
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:16.070
houses and people were calling calling the police, calling the
565
00:43:16.110 --> 00:43:19.010
highway patrol. And it was so bad that the highway patrol,
566
00:43:19.030 --> 00:43:22.010
everybody just turned everything over to Stan Gordon. Let him
567
00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:23.610
investigate all the cops. We don't even know what to
568
00:43:23.650 --> 00:43:27.780
do with this. So, and these are very well documented.
569
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.119
But yeah, I never hear a researcher talk about them.
570
00:43:32.980 --> 00:43:39.260
The way that they behaved in most of the accounts
571
00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:45.190
seemed to me that they were more like a a
572
00:43:45.269 --> 00:43:59.989
drone for, I guess, aliens. They didn't behave like the
573
00:44:00.010 --> 00:44:04.650
Sasquatch that we hear about that come in contact with
574
00:44:04.690 --> 00:44:07.170
people who live, you know, on the edge of a
575
00:44:07.230 --> 00:44:10.920
rural area or a forest or something like that. or
576
00:44:11.579 --> 00:44:15.030
where there's a habituation. They didn't act like that. They
577
00:44:15.050 --> 00:44:21.090
were very strange. They were violent, very hostile. But most
578
00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:24.349
of the time, they were seen in conjunction with UFOs.
579
00:44:24.510 --> 00:44:32.010
So I'm curious if you've heard about this Bigfoot UFO
580
00:44:32.050 --> 00:44:34.099
flap in Pennsylvania back in the 70s.
581
00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:38.599
I've heard of it. I haven't looked too much into it, though.
582
00:44:40.070 --> 00:44:42.909
Yeah, I would say it's a, it's very interesting because
583
00:44:42.929 --> 00:44:46.570
like I said, there are, there are so many law
584
00:44:46.610 --> 00:44:53.239
enforcement officers that saw these. It's, it's not, you know,
585
00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:56.039
I mean, it's not to me, that's good enough for me.
586
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.039
If you have this many people who that's their profession,
587
00:44:59.059 --> 00:45:01.019
they're willing to come forward and say, I saw this
588
00:45:01.139 --> 00:45:05.300
and this is what happened. Then that's good enough for me. Um,
589
00:45:06.769 --> 00:45:09.469
And there were just so many of them. I can't
590
00:45:09.510 --> 00:45:14.519
even imagine. I just can't even imagine that happening. And
591
00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:16.900
why nobody talks about it is very odd to me.
592
00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:18.960
But like I said, there are a lot of books
593
00:45:19.019 --> 00:45:21.800
I've read. Even if you go and you read Bigfoot
594
00:45:21.820 --> 00:45:24.340
by Alan Berry, who was, of course, in the group
595
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:29.550
with Ron Moorhead, he talks about when they're up in
596
00:45:29.570 --> 00:45:33.210
the Sierras. And there are a lot of very strange
597
00:45:33.329 --> 00:45:38.130
things that happen there. that I never hear anyone talk
598
00:45:38.170 --> 00:45:43.389
about and they're all in that book. So, um, yeah,
599
00:45:43.489 --> 00:45:45.630
I think we can glean a lot from you from
600
00:45:45.690 --> 00:45:49.309
all of these things, you know, I've never believed that
601
00:45:49.349 --> 00:45:52.050
there was only one kind of Bigfoot because they don't,
602
00:45:52.489 --> 00:45:55.409
some of, and maybe some of them have been cloned
603
00:45:55.469 --> 00:45:59.659
or weaponized by the military or aliens or somebody, um,
604
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:06.440
that would not surprise me. Um, Unfortunately, down here, we
605
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.440
don't have a lot of options as far as research groups.
606
00:46:10.940 --> 00:46:14.440
There's a lot of the North American Wood Ed Conservancy,
607
00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:19.659
but they want to capture and or kill one because
608
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.280
they believe then they'll have a body and that would
609
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.800
be the way to prove it. Yeah, I've heard of
610
00:46:25.820 --> 00:46:26.059
that group.
611
00:46:28.730 --> 00:46:31.429
I always confuse it with the Olympic project or maybe
612
00:46:31.449 --> 00:46:34.380
they work together. They know each other, but they could
613
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.119
be two completely different groups.
614
00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:40.440
Yeah. I think anybody that gets hold of a body,
615
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.780
it's going to be taken from them. It's not going
616
00:46:43.820 --> 00:46:45.900
to be, they're not going to be allowed to research
617
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.159
it or do anything with it. Just like when so
618
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.530
many died on Mount St. John's, there've been so many
619
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:56.489
people who, although they, couldn't come right out and give
620
00:46:56.510 --> 00:46:59.500
you their names and other information. They had enough information
621
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.219
that they were clearly cleaning up bodies off of Mount St.
622
00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:08.460
Helens after the eruption. So I, I think there are
623
00:47:08.539 --> 00:47:12.849
some that are here and they're there. I call them
624
00:47:12.909 --> 00:47:15.389
guardians of the forest. And then I know a lot
625
00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:19.579
of people will say, Oh, you know, They can't be
626
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.360
proven real because that would hurt the logging industry. I
627
00:47:22.380 --> 00:47:24.539
don't think that's true. They break a lot of trees.
628
00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:31.630
And having been up in the Canadian bush and tried
629
00:47:31.670 --> 00:47:35.389
to break some of these trees that were only, you know.
630
00:47:37.849 --> 00:47:40.199
A couple of inches in diameter and at the height
631
00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:45.099
that they break them. You know, you couldn't get a
632
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.070
piece of equipment in there to get you up high
633
00:47:48.110 --> 00:47:51.670
enough and give you the leverage to do that without
634
00:47:51.690 --> 00:47:55.650
leaving some trace. So I think it's very interesting. There's
635
00:47:55.690 --> 00:47:59.110
a lot for us to think about and a lot
636
00:47:59.650 --> 00:48:00.380
we should consider.
637
00:48:00.389 --> 00:48:05.639
Yeah, absolutely. So you heard the predator clicking sound. I
638
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.320
hear that a lot from guests on the channel. And
639
00:48:08.699 --> 00:48:10.079
what was your take on it? Why do you think
640
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:10.679
it was doing it?
641
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.719
I've never heard anybody else say it, so I must
642
00:48:14.780 --> 00:48:16.659
have missed some shows. And maybe you can fill me
643
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.340
in on those and I can go back and see
644
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.469
because I. Well, it was that was trippy. I mean,
645
00:48:22.489 --> 00:48:25.070
that was really trippy to have that. And I'm going.
646
00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:31.389
So in I want to say it was the Korean War.
647
00:48:32.429 --> 00:48:35.329
I can't swear to it. I can go back and
648
00:48:35.369 --> 00:48:37.510
see if I can find it where I where I
649
00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:41.050
heard it and then forward the information to you. there
650
00:48:41.130 --> 00:48:45.380
were some guys in, it was either Vietnam or Korea
651
00:48:45.659 --> 00:48:49.539
that said something was dropping from, something was dropping from
652
00:48:49.579 --> 00:48:52.760
the trees where they were fighting and it was just
653
00:48:53.000 --> 00:49:02.059
massacring them. They couldn't, they couldn't see it. It was cloaked. I,
654
00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:07.409
I don't know what that was. I, I know that
655
00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:13.989
Sasquatch tends, tends to mimic the, And afterwards, with the
656
00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:17.739
grouse and the squirrel thing, I thought, spirit animals, maybe
657
00:49:17.780 --> 00:49:21.099
they sent those out here just... I had a sense
658
00:49:21.139 --> 00:49:24.139
of humor I don't know I don't know what that
659
00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:29.070
is I tried so hard to to do what I
660
00:49:29.190 --> 00:49:33.090
usually do when I go on paranormal investigations that are
661
00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:37.250
a little disconcerting is God's always there with me God
662
00:49:37.309 --> 00:49:41.699
is always there with me And my intentions are always good.
663
00:49:42.429 --> 00:49:49.250
So I, I never felt truly threatened. Um, although I,
664
00:49:49.269 --> 00:49:56.090
I was anxious and uncomfortable at times. I don't know
665
00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:59.429
if they, maybe they've heard them. Maybe they're real. I
666
00:49:59.469 --> 00:50:04.840
don't know. You know, um, I saw, I think it
667
00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:10.289
was on Sasquatch Chronicles, there was an episode where, was
668
00:50:10.369 --> 00:50:12.820
it Sasquatch Chronicles? No, maybe it was, that was the
669
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:21.820
Dave Politis, The Hunters movie that he did. Where Bruce McAbee,
670
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.159
who was well known for being able to analyze video
671
00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:28.800
and photography, his wife took a picture from her deer
672
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:33.369
blind and caught something on a flip phone that at
673
00:50:33.409 --> 00:50:36.429
the time that she caught it could not possibly have
674
00:50:36.489 --> 00:50:41.639
been taken on the flip phone. It was very kind
675
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:52.960
of prismatic in appearance. Um, There are other people that
676
00:50:53.019 --> 00:50:55.619
have seen things. When I was up there, when I
677
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.159
first got up there, there was a trail that led
678
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.349
down to a footprint. And I remember glancing over there
679
00:51:01.429 --> 00:51:07.250
and seeing something that basically had... It was like a
680
00:51:07.250 --> 00:51:16.039
small cloud of, I don't know, something... kind of translucent,
681
00:51:16.619 --> 00:51:20.239
but it was like a, kind of a shimmery green and, and,
682
00:51:20.590 --> 00:51:24.070
and clear, but it looked like something was, it was
683
00:51:24.090 --> 00:51:27.050
just kind of undulating, I guess is the best way
684
00:51:27.070 --> 00:51:30.150
to put it. Maybe it was like three feet high,
685
00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:31.869
but it was up off the ground. It wasn't on
686
00:51:31.889 --> 00:51:34.070
the ground. And it reminds me of a time I
687
00:51:34.090 --> 00:51:36.949
was in a haunted restaurant and there was a, basically
688
00:51:37.010 --> 00:51:41.820
like a cloud of fog, which I think is, we would,
689
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:50.929
I would refer to that as, um, As a vapor,
690
00:51:53.389 --> 00:51:57.210
I've read some physics that indicate that when something moves
691
00:51:57.309 --> 00:52:01.650
from one dimension to another dimension, there's condensation. And that's
692
00:52:01.690 --> 00:52:04.349
what it looked like to me with this sitting, you know,
693
00:52:04.769 --> 00:52:09.070
like maybe 20 inches, 24 inches away from this thing. Look,
694
00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:12.210
it looked like a little cloud of fog. Nobody else
695
00:52:12.250 --> 00:52:15.090
saw it but me. But I saw it. And then,
696
00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:21.780
you know, Bigfoot is like Bigfoot and ghosts and aliens.
697
00:52:22.500 --> 00:52:26.159
People don't, the people that don't believe, don't believe until
698
00:52:26.469 --> 00:52:30.869
they see. And then they know. And I've seen that
699
00:52:30.909 --> 00:52:35.409
happen with so many people relative to the paranormal. You know,
700
00:52:35.469 --> 00:52:37.690
there's no such thing as ghosts until they see one.
701
00:52:39.349 --> 00:52:43.300
And unfortunately, the immediate reaction is that it's a demon.
702
00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:48.889
And that's not, that's not the case usually. So. many
703
00:52:48.949 --> 00:52:52.599
times they end up becoming very fond of that presence,
704
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:59.840
you know, knowing that it's not going to harm them
705
00:53:00.059 --> 00:53:03.909
because generally they just don't. I mean, they might make
706
00:53:03.949 --> 00:53:06.309
you hurt yourself running from them if you're afraid of them.
707
00:53:06.369 --> 00:53:09.389
But I've been so many places where there were ministers'
708
00:53:09.449 --> 00:53:12.130
wives with their Bibles and doing the whole Satan get
709
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thee behind me. And they come running out of these
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00:53:15.329 --> 00:53:21.719
places and, usually without their Bibles, because you only have
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00:53:21.780 --> 00:53:27.239
the strength of your convictions, of your faith. That's the
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00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:33.449
way that I feel about it. So I don't know
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if there is a creature out there like the predator
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00:53:36.909 --> 00:53:39.599
that makes that sound, but I'm telling you, That when
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00:53:39.659 --> 00:53:41.440
I sat there and I listened to that coming from
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the woods, there was no doubt in my mind. And
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00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.260
there still is no doubt in my mind that that
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00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:51.039
original sound for the movie came from someone else being
719
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.510
out in nature and hearing it. And all these people
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00:53:55.530 --> 00:53:57.670
that never get out of their recliner or off their
721
00:53:57.690 --> 00:54:00.010
couch and go out there and put themselves in that environment,
722
00:54:00.409 --> 00:54:03.010
put themselves at risk. You do it every time you
723
00:54:03.050 --> 00:54:06.429
go into the woods. I did it. A lot of
724
00:54:06.469 --> 00:54:10.610
people do it. Um, I don't think anybody that doesn't,
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00:54:11.849 --> 00:54:15.489
won't leave their comfort zone to do any research should
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00:54:18.190 --> 00:54:21.949
make any big declarations about what does or doesn't exist,
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00:54:22.130 --> 00:54:24.519
you know? No.
728
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.900
Yeah, absolutely. And can you think of any other experiences
729
00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:31.159
that you've had in the Bigfoot world? Anything else that
730
00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:31.840
you'd like to share?
731
00:54:31.860 --> 00:54:44.869
Um, We had a couple more people come up and
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00:54:44.929 --> 00:54:54.840
join us in Canada, and they were staying in a camper,
733
00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:04.019
and after they got in and went to sleep, something
734
00:55:04.300 --> 00:55:11.010
rocked that camper, and it left massive damage. handprints. Um,
735
00:55:11.409 --> 00:55:13.610
I saw those, I took pictures of those and there
736
00:55:13.699 --> 00:55:20.179
is a, um, that greasy residue, I guess, and everything
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00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:24.460
they touch, they leave that residue. So you could, you could,
738
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:26.800
you could see that very easily. Rain did not wash
739
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:32.969
it off. Um, you know, that was, that was very interesting.
740
00:55:33.130 --> 00:55:35.789
I was kind of glad that didn't happen to me. Um,
741
00:55:41.309 --> 00:55:46.150
I will say that I do believe that, that we
742
00:55:46.170 --> 00:55:55.880
got some communication from Sasquatch. We sat out and meditated
743
00:55:56.119 --> 00:56:03.420
and there were things, you know, um, thoughts that came
744
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.750
to us when you're, when you're intuitive or you're psychic,
745
00:56:08.389 --> 00:56:14.409
those impressions, um, are usually like a flash, but I
746
00:56:14.469 --> 00:56:18.800
have had one other, um, what I would call telepathic
747
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:23.079
experience where I felt like something was thinking thoughts into
748
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:24.980
my mind. They were not, I knew they were not
749
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.260
my thoughts. Um, so we did, I think we did
750
00:56:29.300 --> 00:56:31.650
have some mind speak, but they were not, it wasn't
751
00:56:31.730 --> 00:56:36.699
anything negative or frightening or anything like that. Um, but
752
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.900
it was very memorable. It was just, it was just
753
00:56:38.980 --> 00:56:44.059
a very memorable, very, um, thought provoking trip for me.
754
00:56:46.579 --> 00:56:49.420
Yeah, it certainly does sound like a wild trip and
755
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.650
it's cool that you got to experience the activity and
756
00:56:52.690 --> 00:56:55.469
you're able to pick up on these things being out
757
00:56:55.530 --> 00:56:59.170
there in the wood line out in the forest. And yeah,
758
00:56:59.449 --> 00:57:01.889
it definitely sounds spooky and it sounds like you handled
759
00:57:02.030 --> 00:57:02.789
yourself well.
760
00:57:05.250 --> 00:57:09.650
Well, I, Yeah, I don't know. There are things I
761
00:57:09.690 --> 00:57:11.590
wish I had done differently. I wish I'd been less
762
00:57:11.670 --> 00:57:15.949
worried about recording it and just more in the moment
763
00:57:16.349 --> 00:57:22.829
when it was happening. Because to me, this is the
764
00:57:23.010 --> 00:57:25.820
stuff that's the magic of life. And if you don't
765
00:57:25.860 --> 00:57:28.079
believe in any of it, I think you're missing out
766
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.929
on a lot of magic. I think it's really... Um,
767
00:57:32.829 --> 00:57:37.070
I think Sasquatch are beautiful creatures. I think if your
768
00:57:37.139 --> 00:57:42.119
intent is good and positive, I don't think they're going
769
00:57:42.139 --> 00:57:44.559
to hurt you. I don't, I don't, I just don't
770
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.059
think that's going to happen. And yeah, it's easy for
771
00:57:48.099 --> 00:57:49.980
me to say, but at least I've gotten up out
772
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.739
of my comfort zone and I've gone out to their environment. Um,
773
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:56.380
and that's still what I believe.
774
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.940
Yeah, I agree with you. And, Yeah, Leslie, you did
775
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.269
an excellent job at describing your experiences and sharing your
776
00:58:05.309 --> 00:58:08.650
thoughts and theories regarding the subject. And I really appreciate
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00:58:08.690 --> 00:58:12.550
you for contacting me and your willingness to share all
778
00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:14.559
this information openly on the platform.
779
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.539
Well, thank you for having me, Miguel. I appreciate you
780
00:58:18.579 --> 00:58:22.320
listening and I appreciate you sharing this with others because, um,
781
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.380
you know, there are probably a lot of people that
782
00:58:24.420 --> 00:58:27.539
have had experiences and maybe they didn't know what they were, um,
783
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.090
or they didn't communicate them to anyone and maybe it'll
784
00:58:31.110 --> 00:58:34.090
give them some peace of mind or, or just additional information.
785
00:58:35.650 --> 00:58:38.650
Absolutely. And that's what it's all about. And if you
786
00:58:38.710 --> 00:58:41.349
run into another Sasquatch in the future and you want
787
00:58:41.369 --> 00:58:43.170
to come back on the show, I'd be glad to
788
00:58:43.210 --> 00:58:46.030
have you on. And yeah, I appreciate your time today.
789
00:58:47.650 --> 00:58:51.860
Yeah, and I want to tell you, just a quick
790
00:58:51.889 --> 00:58:55.260
side note, I really appreciate, I've watched, you're kind of
791
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.840
going through an evolution, it looks like, in what you
792
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.599
think Sasquatch are. And I see you looking into the
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00:59:02.659 --> 00:59:06.710
paranormal a little bit. And so I'd like to ask you,
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00:59:06.929 --> 00:59:09.550
what do you currently think they are?
795
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.380
Um i feel like they're physical creatures living out in
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00:59:16.420 --> 00:59:22.789
the woods that are undiscovered maybe they're humanoid primate like
797
00:59:22.849 --> 00:59:27.690
but i also feel like they have supernatural abilities especially
798
00:59:27.730 --> 00:59:31.909
since the orbs are associated with them the cloaking people
799
00:59:31.969 --> 00:59:36.639
report mind speak the tracks just disappear and yeah it
800
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:38.840
seems like they're able to mark and tag people and
801
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.079
follow them around a different area so i definitely feel
802
00:59:41.099 --> 00:59:43.380
like there's a supernatural side to it and i guess
803
00:59:43.980 --> 00:59:47.360
some would categorize it as the paranormal.
804
00:59:48.469 --> 00:59:51.889
OK, I'm just it's kind of a blanket term, you know,
805
00:59:53.690 --> 01:00:00.539
they are supernatural qualities, but it's just. I also have
806
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:03.579
heard I did hear from some First Nations people that
807
01:00:03.659 --> 01:00:08.599
when you see the orbs, that the orbs are precursors to.
808
01:00:10.300 --> 01:00:16.920
Like the negative ones. And I couldn't find more about that.
809
01:00:16.940 --> 01:00:19.820
I've got so many books on mythology and lore of
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01:00:20.699 --> 01:00:23.179
the First Nations peoples, but I have not been able
811
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.929
to find anything in writing about that. So I don't
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01:00:25.949 --> 01:00:28.090
know if you've heard anything about that or not, but
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01:00:28.210 --> 01:00:30.769
I want to tell you, I really enjoyed your Christmas
814
01:00:30.889 --> 01:00:38.420
Eve show. You're a gutsy guy. I'll just put that away.
815
01:00:41.019 --> 01:00:43.699
Yeah, I enjoy being out there, and it's cool experiencing
816
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.940
the activity and just being out in nature in general.
817
01:00:48.340 --> 01:00:51.929
Right, right. Well, we appreciate you. Keep up the good work.
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01:00:52.449 --> 01:00:54.829
Thank you, and I appreciate your support. And, yeah, like
819
01:00:54.869 --> 01:00:59.289
I said, if you have any more experiences or encounters
820
01:00:59.309 --> 01:01:00.889
in the future, definitely reach out, okay?
821
01:01:02.269 --> 01:01:04.909
I will do, will do. And if you can give
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01:01:04.949 --> 01:01:10.260
me the information on– any, any episodes or podcasts or
823
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:12.800
whatever that were, anybody else has heard these sounds. Cause
824
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:16.769
I've not heard that from anybody else. I'd be very interested.
825
01:01:16.789 --> 01:01:20.130
Yeah, I definitely will. I know there's a few past
826
01:01:20.190 --> 01:01:23.050
reports and there's been some recent reports that I haven't
827
01:01:23.130 --> 01:01:25.860
posted up yet on the channel where people talk about
828
01:01:25.900 --> 01:01:28.780
hearing the clicking sound, just like the predator.
829
01:01:30.300 --> 01:01:32.719
And, um, Oh gosh, there was something else I was
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01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:38.409
going to tell you. Oh, there was a Sasquatch Chronicles
831
01:01:40.900 --> 01:01:45.500
where a family was outside and they recorded the exact
832
01:01:45.579 --> 01:01:48.320
same sound that I heard, except it's got a little
833
01:01:48.340 --> 01:01:49.989
bit more of a howl on the end of it,
834
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.929
which the ones I heard did not have. And if
835
01:01:52.969 --> 01:01:56.329
you're interested, I will send you that episode information. Because
836
01:01:56.389 --> 01:01:58.530
it's right at the very beginning of the episode. You
837
01:01:58.550 --> 01:02:00.849
can take a listen to that if you'd like to. Okay.
838
01:02:00.869 --> 01:02:03.349
Yeah, absolutely. And I will check it out.
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01:02:04.750 --> 01:02:06.590
All right. Thank you, Miguel. Yep.
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01:02:06.630 --> 01:02:09.670
Thank you so much, and you stay warm, okay?
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01:02:10.849 --> 01:02:12.389
You too. Take care. All right.
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01:02:12.449 --> 01:02:12.820
Take care.
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01:02:13.300 --> 01:02:13.460
Bye.
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01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.079
A big thank you to Leslie for joining me and
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01:02:18.179 --> 01:02:22.719
sharing her experiences. From those first sounds in East Texas
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01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:28.090
to the unsettling encounter she describes in British Columbia, her
847
01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:32.420
account leaves us with plenty to consider. What could have
848
01:02:32.539 --> 01:02:36.360
bent those steel fence posts? What was making the strange
849
01:02:36.469 --> 01:02:41.369
clicking sound in the Canadian wilderness? And what was approaching
850
01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:46.030
the group after that roar? We weren't there and we
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01:02:46.090 --> 01:02:49.489
may not be able to settle those questions tonight, but
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01:02:49.590 --> 01:02:53.090
hearing Leslie tell her story gives us a chance to
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01:02:53.130 --> 01:02:57.269
consider the details for ourselves. Which part of her account
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01:02:57.329 --> 01:03:01.320
stood out to you the most? Have you ever heard
855
01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:04.159
something in the woods that you can't explain and still
856
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.679
can't wrap your mind around? Share your thoughts and experiences
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01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:11.119
in the comments. If you enjoyed this conversation, follow the
858
01:03:11.139 --> 01:03:14.639
podcast and share the episode with someone who loves a
859
01:03:14.699 --> 01:03:18.909
good mystery. Thank you everyone for listening and until the
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next Bigfoot Report, you guys be safe out in the forest.