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Welcome to Salt Pig, where two cookbook writers chat about the ups and downs of actual home kitchen life.
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What are we talking about this week, Ellie?
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We're talking about food storage and all the ways that we're obsessed with it, basically.
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Um especially as adults, I feel like I feel like my food storage needs have really changed and um maybe been a little upgraded.
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And we talk about some of our favorite single-use items, some of our favorite upcycled jars.
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We have some favorites that we're not really willing to get rid of.
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Um yeah, it's a fun one.
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I'm pretty sure this is gonna be our longest episode ever, and maybe the first of many devoted to this topic because we really have a lot to say about food storage, it turns out.
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We do.
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All right, let's get started.
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So I don't know if um people who may have listened to our last episode noticed that both Ellie and I were a little bit congested and we are dealing with some seasonal allergies.
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And um You didn't edit all of that out.
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I I couldn't.
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I tried to.
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I there were a lot of sniffles that were edited out.
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I hope I caught most of them.
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But um I wanted to ask you if you had because in our hot drinks episode, it came to light.
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We're willing to go kind of deep with these kind of fun hot teas and tinctures and infusions and home remedies.
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And I wanted to know if you had any like allergy treatment hot drinks, and you said you didn't.
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But what came to mind was something somebody told me years ago, I've now learned it's like a pretty popular kind of like remedy treatment where you have like a spoonful of local honey every day during allergy season, and like maybe the pollen in the honey is like then in your body and helps to counteract the pollen in the air.
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I started doing it like that day after we recorded the last episode, and I swear to god, my it the there's still a little bit of allergy stuff happening, but it's like by and large been pretty managed.
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Amazing.
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Um and is this like New York City honey?
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This is like Yeah, so we had our friends.
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Like a rooftop.
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Well, it's actually kind of a yeah, exactly.
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It's not New York City honey.
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Our friends Tiffany and Kwan came over for dinner, and Tiffany's family um she grew up out in New Jersey on a farm, and she brought us a jar of her family's like raw local honey.
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And so it was just kind of a fluke that I happened to have this because I mean I love to buy honey at the farmer's market, but I don't do it that often.
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So normally it wouldn't have been in my cupboard, and then um then it was there and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna try that.
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And wow.
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Wow.
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It was great.
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That's it worked.
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I looked it up right before I we started recording, and there is not a lot of scientific data to back up this.
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Um and a lot of people call it a total myth, but I want to say for my allergy stuff, it kind of helps.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Are you like stirring it into like a tea or just like No, I'm just like licking it off the screen.
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Really?
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Do you think that's part of it?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Is it like a throat coat kind of vibe?
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Oh, maybe that I mean it I remember one of the first cookbooks I ever got was called The Whole Food Dictionary or the Whole Food.
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It was not like a big book, it was a pretty small one.
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It was all about these types of natural remedies and treatments and things.
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And one of them was for a sore throat, you gargle honey.
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This everybody knows about that, no?
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Gargling honey.
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I think you just like sounds sort of like a joking hazard.
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Well, I think you'd consume honey and then as you don't I guess you don't gargle it, you would just like let it sort of let it sort of coat your throat.
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Oh wow, exactly.
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Okay, okay.
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I mean that does sound like it's sort of getting to the root of the problem, you know.
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Yeah.
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Well, and I just didn't want you know, do you ever take like Zertec or Claritin or something?
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Literally every day of my life for the last like 15 years.
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Really?
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Every day?
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Every day.
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And I'm sure it's probably messed up some chemical balance in my body, but if I don't take it, like my head starts to itch.
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Like I I really feel it after like two days.
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I'm like, I gotta get a Zyrtek.
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So I'm I'm totally dependent on them.
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Yes.
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These are allergies.
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It's allergies.
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Well, I have really terrible cat and dog allergies.
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Okay.
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Which we no longer have a dog.
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We had a hypoallergenic dog, which I was still kind of allergic to.
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Rebel, um, who unfortunately died last year.
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Um, but we so we don't even have any cats or dogs, and still and so it was sort of it was residual from like the time in my life when I was exposed to more cats and dogs.
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Both of my parents used to have dogs.
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I don't know.
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Now nobody has dogs anymore, and I'm still taking Zertec, because if I stopped, then my head starts to itch.
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You really notice that you really without the presence of it.
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I really noticed that.
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Oh my god.
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I know.
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So that's why the only problem with that, it does seem to sort of keep things at bay, but the only problem with that is then if I'm having like an actual allergy, like a seasonal allergy thing, or I am going to someone's house with like a dog, say, I don't really have any ammunition.
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Like I could take like a bed.
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You need like prescription stuff or something, something stronger.
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Yeah.
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I have I have been told that um that nose spray is very effective, but oh yeah.
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I was looking that up.
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The flow nose.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I haven't used that.
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Oh, I think you can get really addicted to it.
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And I think it kind of destroys your nose.
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Yeah.
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That's what I that's what I read when I was researching this stuff.
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I just find like I mean, I'll take Claritin every now and then and I usually get seasonal allergies, but I just hate the way it like dries.
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Oh.
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It like kind of takes and for me, it's just like it anyway, I don't like the way it makes it makes me feel.
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I mean, uh that's the funny th I mean this is true about me for all things, but I sort of don't notice what it's doing to my body.
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So I wonder if, other than my head, I wonder if n if I'd stop taking Zertec, if I'd be like a whole new person.
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Maybe.
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Oh gosh, I mean, if there are doctors listening, chime in.
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And they want to sound the alarm.
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I know.
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My friend Whitney is an allergist, and she recently was like, Oh, you know, I can't remember what we were talking about about allergies, but she was like, You could switch from Zertec to like Allegra, like Allegra might be much better.
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So I tried it, and it did seem to be better for some reason, but I was like, I had stocked up on so much Zertec that I was just I literally have like two years worth of Zertec.
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I was like, in two years I will be switching, but for now I'm just sticking with it.
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Have you do you ever look at expiration dates on medicine?
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Sometimes my stepmom Pam came over one time and she was like, Do you have a Benadryl?
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And then I just like gave her our Ziploc bags of all the medicine that we've accumulated over the past like ten years.
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And she was like, Um, I'm just gonna do you a favor and throw most of this away because this is all like five, six, eight, nine years old.
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That's so funny.
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I thought it was literally like a bag of pills, but at least there were like boxes in there.
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Oh no, it's all crammed into the box.
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It's yeah, it's yeah that's uh that's a total tangent.
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Today we're actually talking about food storage, right?
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Is this how we're gonna get it?
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We could Ziploc bag, that could be our our transition.
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Speaking of Ziploc bags, um Yeah, we're talking about food storage in all in all ways.
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And I was like, I did sort of take a little tour of my kitchen before we recorded this, and I was like, oh yeah, there's there's a lot of storage going on in my in my kitchen.
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And it's kind of changed in the last, I don't know, 10 or 15 years.
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Oh so well, like I feel like in my youth I was like a Ziploc bag, more of a Ziploc bag person.
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Just had like, you know, random plastic Tupperware that, you know, it was impossible to find the lid and all this stuff.
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And now as a fully grown adult, I feel like I have more um more glass, definitely.
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Uh-huh.
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And just more like more systems.
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And I have to say, like, having more systems in the kitchen is wonderful.
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Critical.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Like, I bought these, just to dive in, I bought these um glass, like one of those sets of glass containers and like from Costco or something.
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From Costco or something.
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And yeah, they're like maybe Pyrex brands, something along those lines.
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And um, they come in like all these different sizes, and one of the sizes that I really love is the like low flat rectangular size.
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And one thing that like nothing makes me feel more like an adult than like if I buy like a giant pack of salami at Costco or something, and it's like in one of those terrible, like really thick plastic things, and you have to like reach into the plastic to get like salami in your hand, it gets all greasy, it's like it's gross.
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It's supposedly they're resealable, but they'd never actually.
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What really makes me feel like an adult is to take those like little rows of salami and then put them in this flat glass thing and stack them in my fridge, and I'm like, gosh, it's like um I'm a garden or something.
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I'm just like Yeah, you need to be featured in a magazine.
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Yeah, I'm like, you want a sandwich?
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Let me pull out my glass container of salami.
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Because it's I don't always do that, but when I do, I'm like, man, should I be doing this all the time?
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Oh, that is so nice.
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Those sets I've been meaning to get because I feel like every couple years I just need to do a refresh and start over with the food storage.
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For at least for like Tupperware that is packing up leftovers or for like the day-to-day food storage, not necessarily like dry storage in the pantry or things like that, but 'cause like I don't know where the lids go.
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You come to realize that there are certain sizes that are just useless to you and they take up very valuable real estate.
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They won't stack because they're like, they don't stack, yeah.
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They have like lids that are just a little bit of a different size.
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I know.
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Um and so I'm const I feel like it's a problem that will probably in my lifetime never be satisfactorily s uh solved.
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But I'm constantly thinking that there's going to be a better solution.
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And the glass stuff too.
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I just want it all to be glass now.
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I don't want any of the plastic stuff.
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That's sort of what I do, except so like glass is what I use for all my leftovers, for all my salami stacking needs.
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Like all that stuff is glass, and that like lives in a drawer in my kitchen, and I use it constantly.
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It's probably the most constant thing that I use in my kitchen.
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And the real benefit of that glass stuff is I feel like it makes leftovers actually appealing and like leftover food appealing.
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Whereas when you put it in like a plastic Tupperware, I feel like it just feels kind of yucky.
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Yeah.
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It just doesn't it doesn't really I never thought about that.
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I know what you mean.
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Yeah.
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So in glass, I'm like, oh, this is a delightful piece of leftover chicken in a Tupperware.
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I'm like, yuck, you know.
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And for reheating, it's nice with those glass ones.
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You can just like throw the thing right back right into the oven.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right into the microwave, right into the it's great in that way.
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It's so great.
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But then I feel like I can't totally get rid of my like plastic Tupperware.
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So I used to just have like a little shopping bag that I stuffed into this closet near the kitchen that was like my like plastic stuff, where like if I'm putting like broth in the freezer, I'm not gonna use one of those glass things.
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I'm gonna use like a Chinese food container.
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Um or if I'm made pesto and I'm putting in the freezer, or I am sending some leftovers home with someone, I'm gonna give them like one of these plastic things that I don't really necessarily need back.
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But that I really need to go through because if you go through some sort of freezer, you're using all the stuff in your freezer, then suddenly the bag overflows, and then I can't stuff it in the closet anymore, which is where I am right now.
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Oh.
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So I need to go through that and toss some stuff.
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Yeah, I mean I I said that I want things to be all glass, but that's definitely not the reality of my of my Tupperware storage right now.
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Just because I give a lot of food away, I feel like there's a lot of transport of food happening in my life that I always have those quart deli containers, and I find them to be so handy and I know that and I know that they're like there's like a worry of microplastics and like they do kind of take on odors and they start to look a little weird after a little while.
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And I'm probably not as diligent as I should be about just getting rid of them when I'm done.
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Yeah.
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But um, I do find the size to be so handy for so much type of stuff.
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So many different types of foods.
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Agreed.
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And especially I mean, I I feel like I got obsessed with them when I worked in restaurants because they are the default that and Cambros, those like square uh hard plastic food storage.
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They're just like the default storage for everything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And those those takeout ones, I mean, they stack well, all the lids are the same.
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Like if you're a little one or a big one, this lid's the same.
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It seems much you can write right on them.
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Those are my favorites.
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And they're great for liquid, which I feel like is often the thing that I'm like putting in the freezer for some reason.
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Like broth or soup.
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Yeah, soup, exactly.
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Saucy things.
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Exactly.
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I'm not necessarily putting like a meal in there.
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And I do the same thing where I like empty the open bag of frozen blueberries or frozen peas or whatever and stick them in one of those core containers and throw it back in the freezer.
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Oh, that's civilized.
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It is really nice because then you just kind of like tip them into the blender or into a Oh, I might try that.
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The only thing is that the round containers they just they from like an organizational perspective, yeah.
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You really I this is something that must be very difficult to solve from uh if you're uh making like designing food storage, but like most there's so many round containers out there, and round is so frustrating in a square or rectangular shaped cupboard or freezer.
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There's so much wasted space around it.
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Like I want I would really love just cubes.
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I hear you.
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This is a business idea, Lucas.
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Cubes.
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This is yeah, I wonder if it's like food cubes.
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Yeah.
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That does exist.
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Like the freezer cubes, you know what I'm talking about, where you like this company makes these like silicone molds of like bricks or like big blocks, and you like it's like a soup cube.
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Oh, oh yes, I do know those.
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That kind of thing.
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Oh, oh, okay.
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Not describing it, right?
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Yeah, there goes the business.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's not the same thing though.
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It's like it's the um when I had my veggie burger business, which I know I bring that up all the time, but I found for the original package that um we designed, it was some kind of a Nordic company that made them.
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They weren't they weren't perfectly rectangular, but they were sort of a rectangular shape, and you could fit like a pound of the mixture in there, so it was like around a pint size, and then a plastic lid.
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And the fact that you could it was like a rectangular shape meant that I held on to those things for so long because I loved them so much.
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You could just stack six of them in a cupboard and then just like push it all the way into the back corner.
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And it was so satisfying too, because you can it's plastic, you can see through it, you can turn it either the wide side out or the narrow side.
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I don't know.
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It was really, really good.
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Yeah.
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That would be a great thing to manufacture and so it would be.
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Yeah, because I have yeah, why why is that so hard?
00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.559
I guess they're harder to clean.
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I guess that would be a negative.
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Is that like the edges?
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You could round the edges pretty easily.
00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:39.519
I wonder if making a lid for a tight corner is uh hard to seal or something like that.
00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:40.559
Oh, maybe.
00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:51.600
Whereas like a round a rounded, even if it's just rounded and not a perfect circle, if that like makes an airtight sealer seal easier to and easier to achieve.
00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.360
Yeah, like a physics problem.
00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:58.000
Which does um does remind me of one thing I definitely wanted to bring up.
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My absolute favorite upcycled plastic container is a Talenti Gelato container.
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Do you have a lot of people?
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People love those.
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I don't have any of them, but I see them in all my friends' houses.
00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:22.320
It's almost worth just buying the gelato and like eating the gelato, which is okay, but the containers are top notch because the lid screws on.
00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:23.120
Yeah.
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So it's like one of the only containers I can convince Tom to take like leftovers to work in because it won't spill in his bag.
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Like for sure will not spill in his bag.
00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.279
Tom and Vincent must be similar.
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He'd never trust me.
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I'm like, Vincent, don't worry about it.
00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:39.200
It's fine.
00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:47.360
He's like, I'm gonna put this in an extra bag and then I'm gonna like saran wrap it so that it's doesn't bust open inside my bag.
00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.320
Oh, I'm always overpromising on the uh airtight ceiling.
00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:53.200
Yeah.
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Oh yeah, me too.
00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:57.360
It's like literally like the last words I say to Tom every day.
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I'm like, do you want some lunch?
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Like there's half of an eaten turkey sandwich and some pasta I can put into a Tupperware.
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He's like, no thanks.
00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:11.839
I know.
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That's I know.
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It's like, oh, it sounds delicious, but um, I think uh we're we've got a lunch meeting today.
00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:18.240
Exactly.
00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.200
There's a lot of mythical lunch meetings that I feel like our husbands are very, very busy with.
00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:30.240
Um do you I wanted to ask, do you use Ziploc bags or resealable bags?
00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:39.279
So I do use Ziploc bags, but I have to say it we use them so rarely because I'm so opposed to them.
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But we reuse them pretty often.
00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.839
And so we have some I wanted to bring up silicone bags as sort of a subtopic.
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I have bought some silicone, I've bought a few different silicone bags, and the ones that I have now I do not love, and they don't work great.
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And they claim that they could go in the dishwasher, and then the ones that I've put in the dishwasher have shrunken, and then you could absolutely never seal them again.
00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.920
Wait, are these um the sort of thicker type of material or the more flimsy?
00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:10.559
They're similar to like a plastic Ziploc?
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They're s I'd say somewhere in between.
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They're not like these super thick ones that I feel like are on the market now that can like stand up by themselves.
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They're not those, but they're not they're not totally flimsy.
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I hate washing them.
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I mean, who wants to wash that or a regular Ziploc bag?
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It's a total drag.
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Um anything that just refuses to ever dry.
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Like hanging it on a wooden spoon.
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I know, I know, I know.
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And then turning it.
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It takes also takes days.
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It's like you dry it on one side, then you reverse it and then dry it on the other.
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I know, it's so gross.
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Everything's like all festering and uh and I have to say I do not trust anybody to clean a Ziploc bag except myself.
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And um and even with me, I'm like, this is not really getting clean.
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I'm not a big fan of those either.
00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:09.200
We have a few of them that we'll use primarily use them for like pantry storage when I have like, I don't know, some like dried chilies or something.
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And I can just cram them in there and throw them up in the cupboard.
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I don't use them for like day-to-day leftovers.
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I think that's the best thing to do and dry things.
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And dry things, yeah.
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Any yeah, I think that's right.
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We had like some leftover tortilla chips and the other day.
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I was like, what can I I was like, I've just put a rubber band around these, but the bag was all screwed up and I was like, oh, I'll put it in a silicone bag, and I was like, perfect.
00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.640
That's the perfect use for one of those.
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But once anything else goes in there, I mean I use them for like fruit with the kids, like cut-up fruit.
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It works okay.
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It doesn't really they don't really close necessarily and then they get all sticky and gross.
00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:54.720
I ran into um a friend who has kids about uh your kid's age, and uh she was saying like how exhausted she is from just cleaning all the reusable containers from the packed lunch.
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I was like, oh, that was not a problem when I was growing up because everything was in a zip disposable ziploc bag, and you could just like take the lunch box and like flip it over over the trash can and be like, here it's ready to be refilled.
00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.160
And now I think everybody is trying to minimize all that, which is great.
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Yeah.
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But a lot of work for the parents.
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I know.
00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.519
I mean, I I remember when I was a kid, my mom made my lunch every day, but I would just literally have it in a brown paper bag.
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:26.480
Like this sort of refrigerated concept just it didn't cross over into my childhood.
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It was just like it will be fine four hours later.
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Um And it was and it was, yeah.
00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:44.640
And now I'm like, me too, am putting my kids at lunch like in with an ice pack and a you know, Tom puts ice in their water in their liquor bottles, and I'm like, this is a step too far.
00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:52.079
I'm like, of course, it's great, and I want them to drink water and they need encouragement to drink water, but I'm like, I'm not running like a catering company here.
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Like, what the hell?
00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.200
But the water is so much more delicious when it's ice.
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It's so much more delicious.
00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:12.400
I mean, don't get me wrong, the parallel is so ridiculous that I'm thinking of, but um, there are these stupid things that you can buy when your kids are babies that are like that warm the wipes that you use when they change their diaper.
00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:13.279
Oh, really?
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And it's like, I don't know how much they cost, however much they cost, and whatever it was.
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I was like, I will not be doing this.
00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:25.759
I was like, once you get used to having a warm wipe, then like then where does it end, you know?
00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:32.240
And I was Yeah, this is setting this is a bad precedent to set when they're like not only not even a few months old.
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:33.200
Exactly.
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But I guess I feel like ice in your water bottle is sort of similar.
00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.920
I'm like, yeah, we'd all like that, but can we can we focus on something more important?
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:42.960
I don't know.
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I mean, I I think I side with Tom on that.
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Really?
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It's just one extra step.
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I mean, it's such I mean it's such a puny extra step.
00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.599
I feel like my nieces don't drink a ton of water.
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I'm like, if if having it be ice cold will make them drink it, I'm like, you're right.
00:21:58.640 --> 00:21:59.279
Maybe I should start.
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Especially in the canoe.
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Yeah.
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.319
And um we we have an ice machine in our refrigerator for the first time.
00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.200
In the door?
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Inside.
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Making its own ice cube.
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Totally life-changing.
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:20.720
Like it used to drive me nuts when I had to like shock vegetables in an ice bath because I'm like popping them out of the ice cube trays.
00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.440
I'm like, now my ice supply is fully depleted.
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:24.240
Oh yeah.
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.680
And but now with ice machine in the freezer, I can just like scoop a bunch as much ice as I want.
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:30.640
It's so fun.
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:38.319
And so even like in the water bottle, I'm now putting ice in my own water bottle when I go out or when I travel or something, because I'm like, why not?
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:38.960
It's right there.
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.480
It's just gonna be sleeping.
00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.440
So I mean, yeah, an ice machine is the best.
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:46.400
It's the best.
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.480
Um back to Ziploc bags.
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.440
So I've I've gone through a journey with the Ziploc bags.
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:52.559
They're so handy.
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:53.839
It's so nice to have them.
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.720
They're so handy.
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.279
But at some point, I they're also very expensive.
00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:05.359
It's like six, seven dollars for you know, ten of them for like the you know, gallon size ones that I those are the ones that I need the most.
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.720
Okay, and then so I had them and I'd buy them.
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.559
Um, but I'd be like, all right, these I have to reuse as many times as possible.
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:21.920
But then I think I saw something online where you're like, you really shouldn't be reusing them because that type of plastic is just leaching microplastics into the food.
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:22.880
Sorry, I don't know.
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:23.519
Maybe that's not true.
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.440
Well, it just like degrades really quickly.
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:27.680
Yeah.
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.720
Like that it's meant to be a single use sort of thing.
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:31.759
I know.
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:38.960
Um and so I read that, and like I'm not a super freak about microplastics, but uh that was compelling to me.
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:49.359
And so I was like, all right, having these around, I do use them because they're there, and you're you know, when you're scrambling for some kind of storage solution and it's just sitting before you're like, I'm gonna take one of these Ziploc bags.
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:55.359
So I started just not buying them and not having them around, and so you're forced to kind of like figure out a workaround.
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.640
And that's where I am right now.
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.839
Yeah, but and how's it going?
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.680
I really miss having them in the drawer where you can just whip one out.
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:02.559
Yeah.
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.039
I mean, we have like little paper bags that I use for like kids' snacks.
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:14.480
But the problem is like they don't like if you put like some crackers or something greasy in there, it's it goes stale.
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.839
Yeah, they get stale definitely, like immediately.
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.720
Crackers and all this stuff will leach through the paper.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:24.640
Fruit just the whole bag dissolves in like an hour.
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.000
So that doesn't really work.
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:26.960
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.880
Like just drop the whole thing into the compost.
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:32.319
Exactly, exactly.
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:39.519
So it's hard to know because the thing is sometimes sometimes, yes, it doesn't you can wrap something up in like a well, I don't know.
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.559
With the Oh, have you used any of the beeswax wraps?
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:44.000
Uh so I yes.
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:54.640
Years ago I got some of the beeswax wraps, and then I stupidly, even though I knew you're not supposed to use warm water on them, I just couldn't not wash it with the water.
00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:55.680
How does that get clean?
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:56.480
Exactly.
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.319
So then I did that, and then all the wax came off, and then I was outraged.
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.160
And then oh, see, I would use the not not the hottest water.
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:06.640
Yeah.
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.279
So it would make them soft.
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.880
But I found that I they got kind of groaty after a couple of washes.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:14.160
I was like, this isn't really something.
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.519
It's like totally it's like it's permeable.
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.559
I don't know, it's sure it takes on odor and things.
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:21.839
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:22.720
Yeah.
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:23.440
Yeah.
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:28.559
I did really like having that for bread where you could just wrap it around the cut edge.
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.079
Because like bread you don't want to be in an airtight bag.
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.640
So isn't but you don't want the like cut part of it to be exposed because then it gets really stale.
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:43.519
So I just take a square of the beeswax wrap and then wrap that around the cut edge of the loaf of bread, and that works really well.
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:44.240
Does it?
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.640
Because yeah, is that what you use for your bread now?
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:47.039
Yeah.
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:47.680
Oh, okay.
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.599
That or I just keep it in like a paper bag.
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:50.400
Oh, okay.
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.759
I have a bread box that I found on someone's stoop, and I have to say it's great.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:56.559
Really?
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:57.119
Yeah.
00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.839
And it's just like one of the ones with a rolling.
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:02.880
It's not that kind, unfortunately.
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.680
Like the oak, like, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.400
No, it's like uh garage store.
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.599
Yeah, exactly.
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.559
This is like a coated metal um thing with like a wooden top.
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.519
But it's great.
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.480
And it fits, you know, like a loaf and a half of bread.
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:21.359
It's pretty handy.
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:22.480
Oh, that's perfect.
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:23.200
Yeah.
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:25.200
Yeah, that's I mean, that's great.
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.160
If you eat a lot of bread, that's a super handy thing to have.
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:28.559
Yeah.
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:34.400
Because otherwise, yeah, I guess the beeswax thing would have been, I'm sure I would have asked you, the beeswax thing would have been a good solution.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.680
But yeah, then do you put it like in a bag or something?
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:45.200
No, I would just keep it on I mean, I love to have food like that I try to keep visible so that I'm reminded to eat it or snack on it and stuff.
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:50.319
So it's like out on the counter in a big bowl with on the top of the apples or something.
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.480
But sorry, not to go back to Ziploc again.
00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:00.720
Ziploc adjacent adjacent is uh Do you find sometimes like the method of food storage gives me agita?
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:01.359
Oh.
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:19.839
And I find that Ziploc bags or like any type of like flimsy type of plastic food wrap, when it doesn't like create a container that can be like stacked or stand up straight or like easily sort of slot into its spot in the cupboard or in the fridge, it drives me nuts.
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:20.640
Like I hear you.
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.720
Like like the spring roll wrappers that we were talking about a few uh episodes ago.
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:29.440
Like how to fit them into my cupboard is something that actually keeps you up at night.
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.000
It keeps it doesn't keep me up at night, but every time I like see them there, I'm like, oh it's like it wants to tip over and be flat.
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:47.359
Or like roll off your or roll off, or like and then it's one of those types of plastic packaging where you have to like cut open the edge, and then what is the best way to reseal something like that?
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.400
I feel like plastic wrap or a Ziploc bag is really the only option.
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:56.480
See, I think in that case, mine are in a Ziploc bag, and it's just because it's like it's literally like what else do you do with that?
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.519
What else do you do?
00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:58.079
Yeah.
00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:58.640
Yeah.
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:09.119
Sometimes only a Ziploc bag will do, but it's true that yeah, that's one thing about those glass containers or that is that they stack so well and that they look neat.
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.279
And like in the fridge, yeah, I'm with you.
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:17.440
If there's like a little cup of something that I've put saran wrap over and stuck it in the fridge, it makes me crazy.
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:23.440
It's just like this thing that I'm just like really trying to pawn off on anybody who walks past the fridge.
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.839
I'm like, Do you want a half a cup of smoothie?
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:26.559
It's right here.
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.480
Like, can we get rid of this thing?
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.559
Um but yeah, because it takes up so much more space than it should.
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:52.000
I recently did like a little bit of an IKEA shop with an eye for like kitchen organization, and I think I saw something online where uh an organizing expert recommended getting like bins, like small bins that can fit in your cupboard, but you like group like items.
00:28:52.240 --> 00:29:10.880
So I took like um I didn't do this with the spring roll wrappers, though I should just combine that with like the nori, with the like tubs of sesame seeds, with some of these like dry things, and like get them all in one thing so that then you reach into the cupboard, you pull out the bin, and then just grab what you need, but it all kind of stays in one place.
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:11.440
Interesting.
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:23.039
And I did do that with a bunch of spices that like I have a spice drawer for um my go-to spices that I use frequently, but there's a bunch of them that I have that I like rarely cook with, but I want to hold on to.
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.359
So I just put them all in a bin and then slid it into a top shelf in the cupboard.
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:36.480
Oh, that's and it's so great because it's like so easy just to take everything out, yes, and then I don't have a bunch of little bottles rattling around every time I get into the cupboard.
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:47.039
Yes, I do that with my like dried chilies, whereas like in like one big plastic container, I just put all the plastic bags of the different kinds and then put a lid on the code.
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:47.839
Yeah, I do the same thing.
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:48.640
Yeah, yes.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:49.359
Yeah.
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.799
That's interesting.
00:29:51.039 --> 00:30:00.240
I I haven't tried that, and maybe I should because my pantry is like very deep and it's it's just there's stuff back there that you just can't access.
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:05.680
Um, it makes everyone crazy if you're trying to find something and everything tumbles out and yeah.
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Yeah.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:13.519
Well, it's so much easier to pull out one bin and then like set it on the counter and rifle through it than it is to be like hunched over in the pantry with a flashback.
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:14.480
Trying to sort through stuff.
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.440
Exactly.
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:16.559
Exactly.
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:17.680
Yeah.
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:26.400
Have you ever noticed people I've noticed some people online that have um that have those bins actually in their refrigerators, and that for me feels like a step too far.
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.000
I have seen that too, and I feel like that's for like photo purposes only.
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.640
I don't wash my produce right away.
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Do you?
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:34.480
No.
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:34.960
Yeah.
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.039
I do when I'm like being my best seller.
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:37.920
Oh, really?
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.599
I am always worried that it's gonna like degrade it a little bit.
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Like some of those things, I feel like sometimes keeping them dry is better than getting them.
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.440
That's probably true.
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.839
I find that like for greens, if I can wash them all at once, I'm more likely to use it.
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.200
Well, that's for sure.
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That is for sure.
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:01.759
And then cucumbers I wash and store in a container because do you get like the Persian cucumbers?
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.960
Well, do you find that they get really slimy quickly?
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.680
Like they turn into weird little really grossie blobs.
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:12.799
Yeah.
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:26.400
I think I read somewhere that if you just take them out of that whatever the pl the styrofoam tray and plastic wrap, take them out, wash them, and then store them with like a paper towel in some type of airtight container, they'll keep for much longer.
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.160
I've totally found that to be true.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.039
Okay.
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.440
Maybe I'll that because we do go through a ton of cucumbers in this house.
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:34.799
Huh.
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.000
That's interesting.
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:36.720
Yeah.
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:42.640
I I try not to like use those bags when I go to the veggie store.
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:50.079
Like I just buy them without bags and then just throw them in my veggie drawer at home, but I don't I don't do anything beyond that.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:52.720
Does your veggie drawer become kind of dirty?
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.519
Yeah.
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.599
Yeah, it does.
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.880
And I have to wipe it out once in a while.
00:31:59.279 --> 00:31:59.680
Yeah.
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.920
Yeah, it does get kind of dirty in there.
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:02.559
Huh.
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.599
Do you um do you do that with herbs as well?
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:11.039
I do that with herbs as well, herbs, herbs sometimes I do put in a bag and then they get really disgusting.
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.680
I know there's all these different ways that one should be storing one's herbs.
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.440
It just feels like a big drag.
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:20.319
I don't know.
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.680
I don't Oh, I did want to mention glass jars, because I know glass jars do seal.
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I do too.
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And even though they're round, they they do the job well enough in my seal well.
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:34.559
Yeah, they seal really well.
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.480
You can get them, they're really huge.
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:46.400
I do find, again, sort of in my adult life, the idea of like decanting some rice into a giant glass container is deeply satisfying.
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:56.559
Um and having them all sort of together, brown rice, basmati rice, whatever, oatmeal all in this section is is great.
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:57.440
It is.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:07.680
It's very satisfying to like see that in I mean, all this I feel like what this does like getting your s food storage under control, it makes like cooking more pleasurable.
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.759
Like seeing your food stored properly makes you more excited to eat it and to play with it and cook it.
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:14.240
For sure.
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:29.119
I know I've mentioned Laura Engels Wilder on this podcast before, but um in the like last Laura Engels Wilder of the series when she gets married and she and I think his name is Almonzo, like move out to like their homestead.
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:35.200
He builds her this kitchen and it's this very it's like it feels deeply romantic to me.
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:44.640
He builds her this kitchen and he builds her all these like different drawers for like one for oatmeal, one for sugar, one for flour.
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.440
And I was like that's amazing.
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:59.119
It was like a I think it was like an early, early sort of romance standard that was set up where like find a partner who will appreciate your kitchen organizational needs.
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.680
Yes, I'm gonna give you a sugar drawer.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.480
Exactly.
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.559
I will say with the glass jars, I recently um because I bought a bunch of wek jars years ago.
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Yeah.
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.440
Just because I liked how they looked, they stacked those are glass jars that actually stacked very well in the cupboard.
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:14.159
Yeah, they really do.
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:22.559
Um but I got the I don't know if it's the traditional type of lid, but it's like the ring, the um rubber ring, and then you have the clamps.
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:36.320
And I love the way it looks, but functionally for something that you're like, like I put my like coconut sugar in that and my chia seeds and stuff, and it's like I make a smoothie or I cook stuff regularly and like pulling the little plastic too much.
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:36.639
Yeah.
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.599
And I found that you can get little plastic lids for the wet jars that just pop on and off.
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:41.920
Yeah.
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.960
And so I ordered some of them, and it's a total game changer.
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.280
You can do the same thing with mason jars.
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:55.599
Yes, I've done that with mason jars, and I agree, because it's like the lids used to get all rusty, and we'd use them for like pickles or whatever, and they got all funky.
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.440
But yeah, the plastic ones are great for that.
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.119
But I didn't know wek ones have them too.
00:34:59.199 --> 00:34:59.599
That makes sense.
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.000
And they just pop on and off.
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.920
They aren't, um I actually have some right here with some preserved lemons I'm making.
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.960
They aren't as airtight, I will say, for liquids.
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:18.320
But um, because it's not a screw top, it's uh but I actually found that to be true even for the rubber, the original lid contraption.
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.760
So I don't I don't think it's necessarily like a it makes it a worse product, yeah.
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.320
The Bon Meme, you know that is is that what how you say?
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:27.280
Oh, those jars.
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:27.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:28.559
I love those.
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.440
They're the best.
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.119
The only problem is they really don't hold like if you turn them upside down, everything will just pour out, even with the lid on.
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.840
I don't know if it was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a I always make salad dressing in that because it's so cute.
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:51.039
And then I think that's led to my uh shaking it up, yeah, to my non-emulsification as time goes on because when you shake it, salad dressing just gets all over you.
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.960
So then I don't really shake it very well, and then that problem.
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.880
But I can't stop myself because they're so cute.
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.719
Maybe it's that I've used them so much that they've become not airtight.
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I don't know.
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:02.320
Mine never do it.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.559
I have I have an extra tall one that um I think I got it like Costco.
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.039
Costco.
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:07.440
Costco.
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:08.639
I know what you're talking about, yeah.
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.360
And they are the ultimate like smoothie remainder jar.
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:18.800
Because again, it's so pretty and it's tall and it has a lid, but again, you can't shake it.
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.960
I've tried, and then I get green smoothie all over myself every time.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.920
I'm like, I'll do it really carefully and slowly, and then it's still, but I can't give it up.
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.960
I love that jar.
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.159
Um, I mean, part of me wants to just continue and make this our like the.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.599
But now I have I feel compelled to ask you what is what's the plan for dinner tonight?
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.000
You know, I should have thought about this before.
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:41.679
I literally don't have a plan for dinner.
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.760
There's nothing really in the house.
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.360
Tom's out tonight.
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:46.880
So yeah, good question.
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.639
We ate all the leftovers yesterday, so the cupboard's sort of bare.
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:52.000
Casidias.
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.119
Maybe you'll have to consult our mildly desperate dinner sometimes.
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:56.400
That's true, actually.
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.119
That's true.
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.199
Maybe I'll make some caramelized tuna.
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.320
Oh, there you go.
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.280
Because I have been really trying to I have been really thinking about doing it, and then I haven't.
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:10.079
So if I make like a bowl, like some rice and some caramelized tuna, some cukes.
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:10.880
So good.
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:11.119
Yeah.
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:11.840
Put an egg on it.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.519
You know what I made just yesterday?
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.880
Have you done those like Korean?
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.079
I don't think it's even exclusively Korean, but like the marinated soy sauce marinated boiled eggs.
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.880
Oh, I have never made those, but they sound amazing.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.000
So good.
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:24.880
So good.
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:25.360
Okay.
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.280
Um and on rice with that tuna would be so good, too.
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.519
I have some hard-boiled eggs in the fridge, actually, or sort of jammy eggs, I guess.
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.519
Maybe I'll do that this morning and then get it.
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:45.280
Yeah, it's basically like equal parts soy sauce and water, and then whatever throw a little sweetener in there, some ginger garlic stuff, sesame seeds, sesame oil.
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.159
Um, mix it up and just let it sit for like up to 48 hours.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:50.800
Okay.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:59.199
I might try that and see, because I bet that could be sort of the sushi bowl, the new sushi bowl experience that the kids would get into.
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.280
Yeah, and like a little avocado too.
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:01.679
Yeah.
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.440
And avocado's been so good lately.
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.880
And so what's up with it?
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What's going on?
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.559
We've been no, it must be a glut.
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.280
I know.
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:18.639
Henry had a dream last night about like guac world, and he came into bed this morning and he was like, Let me tell you about my dream.
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:23.920
I went to Guac World, and I was like, Is this like a guacamole a world of guacamole?
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.400
He was like, Yes, it was so great.
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.039
That sounds like heaven.
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:29.679
It does.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.519
You just had a religious dream.
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.719
Exactly.
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:34.079
What are you making for dinner?
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:35.199
I'm gonna be traveling.
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:44.079
I'm flying to Cleveland this evening to see my friend Megan, who made a short film that's in the Cleveland Film Festival, and so I'm gonna go see that.
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.599
I don't really know what the dinner plan is.
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.000
I think we're eating something out, but I'm excited for that.
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.360
Oh, that'll be so fun.
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.119
And just the two of you guys.
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.679
Yeah, Vincent was gonna come, but he has to stay here.
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.559
Um it's just gonna be the two of us, which is great.
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.840
Megan and I have been friends for something like 25 years now.
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.599
So it'll be really fun.
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.679
And she's she has uh a daughter and her husband's home, and so it'll be like a fun little friendly guys.
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.199
Okay, well, close out part one of food storage.
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.000
Yeah, exactly.
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To be continued.
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To be continued.
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.039
Okay.
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:15.599
Cool.
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.280
Okay, well, um drop safe.
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Thanks.
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Enjoy your dinner.
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Have fun tonight.
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Okay, bye.
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Bye.
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Welcome to Salt Pig, where two cookbook writers chat about the ups and downs of actual home kitchen life.
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What are we talking about this week, Ellie?
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We're talking about food storage and all the ways that we're obsessed with it, basically.
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Um especially as adults, I feel like I feel like my food storage needs have really changed and um maybe been a little upgraded.
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And we talk about some of our favorite single-use items, some of our favorite upcycled jars.
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We have some favorites that we're not really willing to get rid of.
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Um yeah, it's a fun one.
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I'm pretty sure this is gonna be our longest episode ever, and maybe the first of many devoted to this topic because we really have a lot to say about food storage, it turns out.
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We do.
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You can find new and old episodes wherever you listen to podcasts, and check us out on Substack2 at saltpig.substack.com where you can sign up for our newsletter.
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All right, let's get started.
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So I don't know if um people who may have listened to our last episode noticed that both Ellie and I were a little bit congested and we are dealing with some seasonal allergies.
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And um You didn't edit all of that out.
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I I couldn't.
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I tried to.
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I there were a lot of sniffles that were edited out.
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I hope I caught most of them.
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But um I wanted to ask you if you had because in our hot drinks episode, it came to light.
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We're willing to go kind of deep with these kind of fun hot teas and tinctures and infusions and home remedies.
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And I wanted to know if you had any like allergy treatment hot drinks, and you said you didn't.
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But what came to mind was something somebody told me years ago, I've now learned it's like a pretty popular kind of like remedy treatment where you have like a spoonful of local honey every day during allergy season, and like maybe the pollen in the honey is like then in your body and helps to counteract the pollen in the air.
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I started doing it like that day after we recorded the last episode, and I swear to god, my it the there's still a little bit of allergy stuff happening, but it's like by and large been pretty managed.
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Amazing.
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Um and is this like New York City honey?
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This is like Yeah, so we had our friends.
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Like a rooftop.
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Well, it's actually kind of a yeah, exactly.
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It's not New York City honey.
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Our friends Tiffany and Kwan came over for dinner, and Tiffany's family um she grew up out in New Jersey on a farm, and she brought us a jar of her family's like raw local honey.
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And so it was just kind of a fluke that I happened to have this because I mean I love to buy honey at the farmer's market, but I don't do it that often.
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So normally it wouldn't have been in my cupboard, and then um then it was there and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna try that.
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And wow.
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Wow.
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It was great.
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That's it worked.
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I looked it up right before I we started recording, and there is not a lot of scientific data to back up this.
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Um and a lot of people call it a total myth, but I want to say for my allergy stuff, it kind of helps.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Are you like stirring it into like a tea or just like No, I'm just like licking it off the screen.
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Really?
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Do you think that's part of it?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Is it like a throat coat kind of vibe?
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Oh, maybe that I mean it I remember one of the first cookbooks I ever got was called The Whole Food Dictionary or the Whole Food.
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It was not like a big book, it was a pretty small one.
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It was all about these types of natural remedies and treatments and things.
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And one of them was for a sore throat, you gargle honey.
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This everybody knows about that, no?
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Gargling honey.
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I think you just like sounds sort of like a joking hazard.
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Well, I think you'd consume honey and then as you don't I guess you don't gargle it, you would just like let it sort of let it sort of coat your throat.
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Oh wow, exactly.
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Okay, okay.
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I mean that does sound like it's sort of getting to the root of the problem, you know.
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Yeah.
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Well, and I just didn't want you know, do you ever take like Zertec or Claritin or something?
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Literally every day of my life for the last like 15 years.
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Really?
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Every day?
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Every day.
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And I'm sure it's probably messed up some chemical balance in my body, but if I don't take it, like my head starts to itch.
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Like I I really feel it after like two days.
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I'm like, I gotta get a Zyrtek.
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So I'm I'm totally dependent on them.
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Yes.
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These are allergies.
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It's allergies.
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Well, I have really terrible cat and dog allergies.
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Okay.
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Which we no longer have a dog.
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We had a hypoallergenic dog, which I was still kind of allergic to.
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Rebel, um, who unfortunately died last year.
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Um, but we so we don't even have any cats or dogs, and still and so it was sort of it was residual from like the time in my life when I was exposed to more cats and dogs.
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Both of my parents used to have dogs.
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I don't know.
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Now nobody has dogs anymore, and I'm still taking Zertec, because if I stopped, then my head starts to itch.
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You really notice that you really without the presence of it.
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I really noticed that.
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Oh my god.
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I know.
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So that's why the only problem with that, it does seem to sort of keep things at bay, but the only problem with that is then if I'm having like an actual allergy, like a seasonal allergy thing, or I am going to someone's house with like a dog, say, I don't really have any ammunition.
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Like I could take like a bed.
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You need like prescription stuff or something, something stronger.
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Yeah.
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I have I have been told that um that nose spray is very effective, but oh yeah.
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I was looking that up.
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The flow nose.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I haven't used that.
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Oh, I think you can get really addicted to it.
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And I think it kind of destroys your nose.
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Yeah.
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That's what I that's what I read when I was researching this stuff.
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I just find like I mean, I'll take Claritin every now and then and I usually get seasonal allergies, but I just hate the way it like dries.
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Oh.
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It like kind of takes and for me, it's just like it anyway, I don't like the way it makes it makes me feel.
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I mean, uh that's the funny th I mean this is true about me for all things, but I sort of don't notice what it's doing to my body.
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So I wonder if, other than my head, I wonder if n if I'd stop taking Zertec, if I'd be like a whole new person.
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Maybe.
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Oh gosh, I mean, if there are doctors listening, chime in.
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And they want to sound the alarm.
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I know.
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My friend Whitney is an allergist, and she recently was like, Oh, you know, I can't remember what we were talking about about allergies, but she was like, You could switch from Zertec to like Allegra, like Allegra might be much better.
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So I tried it, and it did seem to be better for some reason, but I was like, I had stocked up on so much Zertec that I was just I literally have like two years worth of Zertec.
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I was like, in two years I will be switching, but for now I'm just sticking with it.
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Have you do you ever look at expiration dates on medicine?
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Sometimes my stepmom Pam came over one time and she was like, Do you have a Benadryl?
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And then I just like gave her our Ziploc bags of all the medicine that we've accumulated over the past like ten years.
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And she was like, Um, I'm just gonna do you a favor and throw most of this away because this is all like five, six, eight, nine years old.
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That's so funny.
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I thought it was literally like a bag of pills, but at least there were like boxes in there.
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Oh no, it's all crammed into the box.
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It's yeah, it's yeah that's uh that's a total tangent.
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Today we're actually talking about food storage, right?
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Is this how we're gonna get it?
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We could Ziploc bag, that could be our our transition.
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Speaking of Ziploc bags, um Yeah, we're talking about food storage in all in all ways.
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And I was like, I did sort of take a little tour of my kitchen before we recorded this, and I was like, oh yeah, there's there's a lot of storage going on in my in my kitchen.
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And it's kind of changed in the last, I don't know, 10 or 15 years.
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Oh so well, like I feel like in my youth I was like a Ziploc bag, more of a Ziploc bag person.
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Just had like, you know, random plastic Tupperware that, you know, it was impossible to find the lid and all this stuff.
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And now as a fully grown adult, I feel like I have more um more glass, definitely.
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Uh-huh.
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And just more like more systems.
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And I have to say, like, having more systems in the kitchen is wonderful.
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Critical.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Like, I bought these, just to dive in, I bought these um glass, like one of those sets of glass containers and like from Costco or something.
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From Costco or something.
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And yeah, they're like maybe Pyrex brands, something along those lines.
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And um, they come in like all these different sizes, and one of the sizes that I really love is the like low flat rectangular size.
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And one thing that like nothing makes me feel more like an adult than like if I buy like a giant pack of salami at Costco or something, and it's like in one of those terrible, like really thick plastic things, and you have to like reach into the plastic to get like salami in your hand, it gets all greasy, it's like it's gross.
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It's supposedly they're resealable, but they'd never actually.
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What really makes me feel like an adult is to take those like little rows of salami and then put them in this flat glass thing and stack them in my fridge, and I'm like, gosh, it's like um I'm a garden or something.
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I'm just like Yeah, you need to be featured in a magazine.
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Yeah, I'm like, you want a sandwich?
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Let me pull out my glass container of salami.
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Because it's I don't always do that, but when I do, I'm like, man, should I be doing this all the time?
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Oh, that is so nice.
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Those sets I've been meaning to get because I feel like every couple years I just need to do a refresh and start over with the food storage.
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For at least for like Tupperware that is packing up leftovers or for like the day-to-day food storage, not necessarily like dry storage in the pantry or things like that, but 'cause like I don't know where the lids go.
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You come to realize that there are certain sizes that are just useless to you and they take up very valuable real estate.
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They won't stack because they're like, they don't stack, yeah.
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They have like lids that are just a little bit of a different size.
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I know.
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Um and so I'm const I feel like it's a problem that will probably in my lifetime never be satisfactorily s uh solved.
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But I'm constantly thinking that there's going to be a better solution.
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And the glass stuff too.
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I just want it all to be glass now.
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I don't want any of the plastic stuff.
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That's sort of what I do, except so like glass is what I use for all my leftovers, for all my salami stacking needs.
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Like all that stuff is glass, and that like lives in a drawer in my kitchen, and I use it constantly.
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It's probably the most constant thing that I use in my kitchen.
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And the real benefit of that glass stuff is I feel like it makes leftovers actually appealing and like leftover food appealing.
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Whereas when you put it in like a plastic Tupperware, I feel like it just feels kind of yucky.
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Yeah.
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It just doesn't it doesn't really I never thought about that.
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I know what you mean.
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Yeah.
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So in glass, I'm like, oh, this is a delightful piece of leftover chicken in a Tupperware.
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I'm like, yuck, you know.
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And for reheating, it's nice with those glass ones.
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You can just like throw the thing right back right into the oven.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Right into the microwave, right into the it's great in that way.
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It's so great.
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But then I feel like I can't totally get rid of my like plastic Tupperware.
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So I used to just have like a little shopping bag that I stuffed into this closet near the kitchen that was like my like plastic stuff, where like if I'm putting like broth in the freezer, I'm not gonna use one of those glass things.
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I'm gonna use like a Chinese food container.
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Um or if I'm made pesto and I'm putting in the freezer, or I am sending some leftovers home with someone, I'm gonna give them like one of these plastic things that I don't really necessarily need back.
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But that I really need to go through because if you go through some sort of freezer, you're using all the stuff in your freezer, then suddenly the bag overflows, and then I can't stuff it in the closet anymore, which is where I am right now.
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Oh.
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So I need to go through that and toss some stuff.
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Yeah, I mean I I said that I want things to be all glass, but that's definitely not the reality of my of my Tupperware storage right now.
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Just because I give a lot of food away, I feel like there's a lot of transport of food happening in my life that I always have those quart deli containers, and I find them to be so handy and I know that and I know that they're like there's like a worry of microplastics and like they do kind of take on odors and they start to look a little weird after a little while.
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And I'm probably not as diligent as I should be about just getting rid of them when I'm done.
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Yeah.
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But um, I do find the size to be so handy for so much type of stuff.
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So many different types of foods.
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Agreed.
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And especially I mean, I I feel like I got obsessed with them when I worked in restaurants because they are the default that and Cambros, those like square uh hard plastic food storage.
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They're just like the default storage for everything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And those those takeout ones, I mean, they stack well, all the lids are the same.
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Like if you're a little one or a big one, this lid's the same.
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It seems much you can write right on them.
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Those are my favorites.
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And they're great for liquid, which I feel like is often the thing that I'm like putting in the freezer for some reason.
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Like broth or soup.
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Yeah, soup, exactly.
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Saucy things.
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Exactly.
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I'm not necessarily putting like a meal in there.
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And I do the same thing where I like empty the open bag of frozen blueberries or frozen peas or whatever and stick them in one of those core containers and throw it back in the freezer.
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Oh, that's civilized.
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It is really nice because then you just kind of like tip them into the blender or into a Oh, I might try that.
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The only thing is that the round containers they just they from like an organizational perspective, yeah.
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You really I this is something that must be very difficult to solve from uh if you're uh making like designing food storage, but like most there's so many round containers out there, and round is so frustrating in a square or rectangular shaped cupboard or freezer.
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There's so much wasted space around it.
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Like I want I would really love just cubes.
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I hear you.
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This is a business idea, Lucas.
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Cubes.
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This is yeah, I wonder if it's like food cubes.
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Yeah.
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That does exist.
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Like the freezer cubes, you know what I'm talking about, where you like this company makes these like silicone molds of like bricks or like big blocks, and you like it's like a soup cube.
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Oh, oh yes, I do know those.
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That kind of thing.
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Oh, oh, okay.
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Not describing it, right?
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Yeah, there goes the business.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's not the same thing though.
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It's like it's the um when I had my veggie burger business, which I know I bring that up all the time, but I found for the original package that um we designed, it was some kind of a Nordic company that made them.
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They weren't they weren't perfectly rectangular, but they were sort of a rectangular shape, and you could fit like a pound of the mixture in there, so it was like around a pint size, and then a plastic lid.
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And the fact that you could it was like a rectangular shape meant that I held on to those things for so long because I loved them so much.
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You could just stack six of them in a cupboard and then just like push it all the way into the back corner.
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And it was so satisfying too, because you can it's plastic, you can see through it, you can turn it either the wide side out or the narrow side.
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I don't know.
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It was really, really good.
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Yeah.
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That would be a great thing to manufacture and so it would be.
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Yeah, because I have yeah, why why is that so hard?
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I guess they're harder to clean.
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I guess that would be a negative.
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Is that like the edges?
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You could round the edges pretty easily.
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I wonder if making a lid for a tight corner is uh hard to seal or something like that.
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Oh, maybe.
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Whereas like a round a rounded, even if it's just rounded and not a perfect circle, if that like makes an airtight sealer seal easier to and easier to achieve.
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Yeah, like a physics problem.
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Which does um does remind me of one thing I definitely wanted to bring up.
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My absolute favorite upcycled plastic container is a Talenti Gelato container.
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Do you have a lot of people?
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People love those.
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I don't have any of them, but I see them in all my friends' houses.
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It's almost worth just buying the gelato and like eating the gelato, which is okay, but the containers are top notch because the lid screws on.
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Yeah.
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So it's like one of the only containers I can convince Tom to take like leftovers to work in because it won't spill in his bag.
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Like for sure will not spill in his bag.
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Tom and Vincent must be similar.
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He'd never trust me.
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I'm like, Vincent, don't worry about it.
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It's fine.
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He's like, I'm gonna put this in an extra bag and then I'm gonna like saran wrap it so that it's doesn't bust open inside my bag.
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Oh, I'm always overpromising on the uh airtight ceiling.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah, me too.
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It's like literally like the last words I say to Tom every day.
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I'm like, do you want some lunch?
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Like there's half of an eaten turkey sandwich and some pasta I can put into a Tupperware.
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He's like, no thanks.
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I know.
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That's I know.
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It's like, oh, it sounds delicious, but um, I think uh we're we've got a lunch meeting today.
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Exactly.
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There's a lot of mythical lunch meetings that I feel like our husbands are very, very busy with.
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Um do you I wanted to ask, do you use Ziploc bags or resealable bags?
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So I do use Ziploc bags, but I have to say it we use them so rarely because I'm so opposed to them.
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But we reuse them pretty often.
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And so we have some I wanted to bring up silicone bags as sort of a subtopic.
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I have bought some silicone, I've bought a few different silicone bags, and the ones that I have now I do not love, and they don't work great.
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And they claim that they could go in the dishwasher, and then the ones that I've put in the dishwasher have shrunken, and then you could absolutely never seal them again.
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Wait, are these um the sort of thicker type of material or the more flimsy?
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They're similar to like a plastic Ziploc?
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They're s I'd say somewhere in between.
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They're not like these super thick ones that I feel like are on the market now that can like stand up by themselves.
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They're not those, but they're not they're not totally flimsy.
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I hate washing them.
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I mean, who wants to wash that or a regular Ziploc bag?
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It's a total drag.
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Um anything that just refuses to ever dry.
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Like hanging it on a wooden spoon.
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I know, I know, I know.
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And then turning it.
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It takes also takes days.
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It's like you dry it on one side, then you reverse it and then dry it on the other.
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I know, it's so gross.
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Everything's like all festering and uh and I have to say I do not trust anybody to clean a Ziploc bag except myself.
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And um and even with me, I'm like, this is not really getting clean.
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I'm not a big fan of those either.
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We have a few of them that we'll use primarily use them for like pantry storage when I have like, I don't know, some like dried chilies or something.
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And I can just cram them in there and throw them up in the cupboard.
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I don't use them for like day-to-day leftovers.
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I think that's the best thing to do and dry things.
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And dry things, yeah.
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Any yeah, I think that's right.
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We had like some leftover tortilla chips and the other day.
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I was like, what can I I was like, I've just put a rubber band around these, but the bag was all screwed up and I was like, oh, I'll put it in a silicone bag, and I was like, perfect.
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That's the perfect use for one of those.
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But once anything else goes in there, I mean I use them for like fruit with the kids, like cut-up fruit.
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It works okay.
00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:43.279
It doesn't really they don't really close necessarily and then they get all sticky and gross.
00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:54.720
I ran into um a friend who has kids about uh your kid's age, and uh she was saying like how exhausted she is from just cleaning all the reusable containers from the packed lunch.
00:19:55.279 --> 00:20:06.960
I was like, oh, that was not a problem when I was growing up because everything was in a zip disposable ziploc bag, and you could just like take the lunch box and like flip it over over the trash can and be like, here it's ready to be refilled.
00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.160
And now I think everybody is trying to minimize all that, which is great.
00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:12.720
Yeah.
00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.400
But a lot of work for the parents.
00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:15.200
I know.
00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.519
I mean, I I remember when I was a kid, my mom made my lunch every day, but I would just literally have it in a brown paper bag.
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:26.480
Like this sort of refrigerated concept just it didn't cross over into my childhood.
00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:29.599
It was just like it will be fine four hours later.
00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.400
Um And it was and it was, yeah.
00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:44.640
And now I'm like, me too, am putting my kids at lunch like in with an ice pack and a you know, Tom puts ice in their water in their liquor bottles, and I'm like, this is a step too far.
00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:52.079
I'm like, of course, it's great, and I want them to drink water and they need encouragement to drink water, but I'm like, I'm not running like a catering company here.
00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:54.319
Like, what the hell?
00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.200
But the water is so much more delicious when it's ice.
00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:58.640
It's so much more delicious.
00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:12.400
I mean, don't get me wrong, the parallel is so ridiculous that I'm thinking of, but um, there are these stupid things that you can buy when your kids are babies that are like that warm the wipes that you use when they change their diaper.
00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:13.279
Oh, really?
00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:18.240
And it's like, I don't know how much they cost, however much they cost, and whatever it was.
00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:20.319
I was like, I will not be doing this.
00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:25.759
I was like, once you get used to having a warm wipe, then like then where does it end, you know?
00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:32.240
And I was Yeah, this is setting this is a bad precedent to set when they're like not only not even a few months old.
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:33.200
Exactly.
00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:36.400
But I guess I feel like ice in your water bottle is sort of similar.
00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.920
I'm like, yeah, we'd all like that, but can we can we focus on something more important?
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:42.960
I don't know.
00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:45.920
I mean, I I think I side with Tom on that.
00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:46.559
Really?
00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:47.839
It's just one extra step.
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.119
I mean, it's such I mean it's such a puny extra step.
00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.599
I feel like my nieces don't drink a ton of water.
00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:58.400
I'm like, if if having it be ice cold will make them drink it, I'm like, you're right.
00:21:58.640 --> 00:21:59.279
Maybe I should start.
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.440
Especially in the canoe.
00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:02.559
Yeah.
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.319
And um we we have an ice machine in our refrigerator for the first time.
00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.200
In the door?
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:09.599
Inside.
00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:11.519
Making its own ice cube.
00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:13.039
Totally life-changing.
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:20.720
Like it used to drive me nuts when I had to like shock vegetables in an ice bath because I'm like popping them out of the ice cube trays.
00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.440
I'm like, now my ice supply is fully depleted.
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:24.240
Oh yeah.
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.680
And but now with ice machine in the freezer, I can just like scoop a bunch as much ice as I want.
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:30.640
It's so fun.
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:38.319
And so even like in the water bottle, I'm now putting ice in my own water bottle when I go out or when I travel or something, because I'm like, why not?
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:38.960
It's right there.
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.480
It's just gonna be sleeping.
00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.440
So I mean, yeah, an ice machine is the best.
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:46.400
It's the best.
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.480
Um back to Ziploc bags.
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.440
So I've I've gone through a journey with the Ziploc bags.
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:52.559
They're so handy.
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:53.839
It's so nice to have them.
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.720
They're so handy.
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.279
But at some point, I they're also very expensive.
00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:05.359
It's like six, seven dollars for you know, ten of them for like the you know, gallon size ones that I those are the ones that I need the most.
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.720
Okay, and then so I had them and I'd buy them.
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.559
Um, but I'd be like, all right, these I have to reuse as many times as possible.
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:21.920
But then I think I saw something online where you're like, you really shouldn't be reusing them because that type of plastic is just leaching microplastics into the food.
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:22.880
Sorry, I don't know.
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:23.519
Maybe that's not true.
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.440
Well, it just like degrades really quickly.
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:27.680
Yeah.
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.720
Like that it's meant to be a single use sort of thing.
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:31.759
I know.
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:38.960
Um and so I read that, and like I'm not a super freak about microplastics, but uh that was compelling to me.
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:49.359
And so I was like, all right, having these around, I do use them because they're there, and you're you know, when you're scrambling for some kind of storage solution and it's just sitting before you're like, I'm gonna take one of these Ziploc bags.
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:55.359
So I started just not buying them and not having them around, and so you're forced to kind of like figure out a workaround.
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.640
And that's where I am right now.
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.839
Yeah, but and how's it going?
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.680
I really miss having them in the drawer where you can just whip one out.
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:02.559
Yeah.
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.039
I mean, we have like little paper bags that I use for like kids' snacks.
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:14.480
But the problem is like they don't like if you put like some crackers or something greasy in there, it's it goes stale.
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.839
Yeah, they get stale definitely, like immediately.
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.720
Crackers and all this stuff will leach through the paper.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:24.640
Fruit just the whole bag dissolves in like an hour.
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.000
So that doesn't really work.
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:26.960
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.880
Like just drop the whole thing into the compost.
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:32.319
Exactly, exactly.
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:39.519
So it's hard to know because the thing is sometimes sometimes, yes, it doesn't you can wrap something up in like a well, I don't know.
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.559
With the Oh, have you used any of the beeswax wraps?
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:44.000
Uh so I yes.
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:54.640
Years ago I got some of the beeswax wraps, and then I stupidly, even though I knew you're not supposed to use warm water on them, I just couldn't not wash it with the water.
00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:55.680
How does that get clean?
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:56.480
Exactly.
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.319
So then I did that, and then all the wax came off, and then I was outraged.
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.160
And then oh, see, I would use the not not the hottest water.
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:06.640
Yeah.
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.279
So it would make them soft.
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.880
But I found that I they got kind of groaty after a couple of washes.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:14.160
I was like, this isn't really something.
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.519
It's like totally it's like it's permeable.
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.559
I don't know, it's sure it takes on odor and things.
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:21.839
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:22.720
Yeah.
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:23.440
Yeah.
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:28.559
I did really like having that for bread where you could just wrap it around the cut edge.
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.079
Because like bread you don't want to be in an airtight bag.
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.640
So isn't but you don't want the like cut part of it to be exposed because then it gets really stale.
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:43.519
So I just take a square of the beeswax wrap and then wrap that around the cut edge of the loaf of bread, and that works really well.
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:44.240
Does it?
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.640
Because yeah, is that what you use for your bread now?
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:47.039
Yeah.
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:47.680
Oh, okay.
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.599
That or I just keep it in like a paper bag.
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:50.400
Oh, okay.
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.759
I have a bread box that I found on someone's stoop, and I have to say it's great.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:56.559
Really?
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:57.119
Yeah.
00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.839
And it's just like one of the ones with a rolling.
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:02.880
It's not that kind, unfortunately.
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.680
Like the oak, like, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.400
No, it's like uh garage store.
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.599
Yeah, exactly.
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.559
This is like a coated metal um thing with like a wooden top.
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.519
But it's great.
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.480
And it fits, you know, like a loaf and a half of bread.
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:21.359
It's pretty handy.
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:22.480
Oh, that's perfect.
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:23.200
Yeah.
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:25.200
Yeah, that's I mean, that's great.
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.160
If you eat a lot of bread, that's a super handy thing to have.
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:28.559
Yeah.
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:34.400
Because otherwise, yeah, I guess the beeswax thing would have been, I'm sure I would have asked you, the beeswax thing would have been a good solution.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.680
But yeah, then do you put it like in a bag or something?
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:45.200
No, I would just keep it on I mean, I love to have food like that I try to keep visible so that I'm reminded to eat it or snack on it and stuff.
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:50.319
So it's like out on the counter in a big bowl with on the top of the apples or something.
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.480
But sorry, not to go back to Ziploc again.
00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:00.720
Ziploc adjacent adjacent is uh Do you find sometimes like the method of food storage gives me agita?
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:01.359
Oh.
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:19.839
And I find that Ziploc bags or like any type of like flimsy type of plastic food wrap, when it doesn't like create a container that can be like stacked or stand up straight or like easily sort of slot into its spot in the cupboard or in the fridge, it drives me nuts.
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:20.640
Like I hear you.
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.720
Like like the spring roll wrappers that we were talking about a few uh episodes ago.
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:29.440
Like how to fit them into my cupboard is something that actually keeps you up at night.
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.000
It keeps it doesn't keep me up at night, but every time I like see them there, I'm like, oh it's like it wants to tip over and be flat.
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:47.359
Or like roll off your or roll off, or like and then it's one of those types of plastic packaging where you have to like cut open the edge, and then what is the best way to reseal something like that?
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.400
I feel like plastic wrap or a Ziploc bag is really the only option.
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:56.480
See, I think in that case, mine are in a Ziploc bag, and it's just because it's like it's literally like what else do you do with that?
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.519
What else do you do?
00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:58.079
Yeah.
00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:58.640
Yeah.
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:09.119
Sometimes only a Ziploc bag will do, but it's true that yeah, that's one thing about those glass containers or that is that they stack so well and that they look neat.
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.279
And like in the fridge, yeah, I'm with you.
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:17.440
If there's like a little cup of something that I've put saran wrap over and stuck it in the fridge, it makes me crazy.
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:23.440
It's just like this thing that I'm just like really trying to pawn off on anybody who walks past the fridge.
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.839
I'm like, Do you want a half a cup of smoothie?
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:26.559
It's right here.
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.480
Like, can we get rid of this thing?
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.559
Um but yeah, because it takes up so much more space than it should.
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:52.000
I recently did like a little bit of an IKEA shop with an eye for like kitchen organization, and I think I saw something online where uh an organizing expert recommended getting like bins, like small bins that can fit in your cupboard, but you like group like items.
00:28:52.240 --> 00:29:10.880
So I took like um I didn't do this with the spring roll wrappers, though I should just combine that with like the nori, with the like tubs of sesame seeds, with some of these like dry things, and like get them all in one thing so that then you reach into the cupboard, you pull out the bin, and then just grab what you need, but it all kind of stays in one place.
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:11.440
Interesting.
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:23.039
And I did do that with a bunch of spices that like I have a spice drawer for um my go-to spices that I use frequently, but there's a bunch of them that I have that I like rarely cook with, but I want to hold on to.
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.359
So I just put them all in a bin and then slid it into a top shelf in the cupboard.
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:36.480
Oh, that's and it's so great because it's like so easy just to take everything out, yes, and then I don't have a bunch of little bottles rattling around every time I get into the cupboard.
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:47.039
Yes, I do that with my like dried chilies, whereas like in like one big plastic container, I just put all the plastic bags of the different kinds and then put a lid on the code.
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:47.839
Yeah, I do the same thing.
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:48.640
Yeah, yes.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:49.359
Yeah.
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.799
That's interesting.
00:29:51.039 --> 00:30:00.240
I I haven't tried that, and maybe I should because my pantry is like very deep and it's it's just there's stuff back there that you just can't access.
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:05.680
Um, it makes everyone crazy if you're trying to find something and everything tumbles out and yeah.
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:06.000
Yeah.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:13.519
Well, it's so much easier to pull out one bin and then like set it on the counter and rifle through it than it is to be like hunched over in the pantry with a flashback.
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:14.480
Trying to sort through stuff.
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.440
Exactly.
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:16.559
Exactly.
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:17.680
Yeah.
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:26.400
Have you ever noticed people I've noticed some people online that have um that have those bins actually in their refrigerators, and that for me feels like a step too far.
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.000
I have seen that too, and I feel like that's for like photo purposes only.
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.640
I don't wash my produce right away.
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:33.519
Do you?
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:34.480
No.
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:34.960
Yeah.
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.039
I do when I'm like being my best seller.
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:37.920
Oh, really?
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.599
I am always worried that it's gonna like degrade it a little bit.
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:48.319
Like some of those things, I feel like sometimes keeping them dry is better than getting them.
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.440
That's probably true.
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.839
I find that like for greens, if I can wash them all at once, I'm more likely to use it.
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.200
Well, that's for sure.
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.160
That is for sure.
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:01.759
And then cucumbers I wash and store in a container because do you get like the Persian cucumbers?
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.960
Well, do you find that they get really slimy quickly?
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.680
Like they turn into weird little really grossie blobs.
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:12.799
Yeah.
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:26.400
I think I read somewhere that if you just take them out of that whatever the pl the styrofoam tray and plastic wrap, take them out, wash them, and then store them with like a paper towel in some type of airtight container, they'll keep for much longer.
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.160
I've totally found that to be true.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.039
Okay.
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.440
Maybe I'll that because we do go through a ton of cucumbers in this house.
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:34.799
Huh.
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.000
That's interesting.
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:36.720
Yeah.
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:42.640
I I try not to like use those bags when I go to the veggie store.
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:50.079
Like I just buy them without bags and then just throw them in my veggie drawer at home, but I don't I don't do anything beyond that.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:52.720
Does your veggie drawer become kind of dirty?
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.519
Yeah.
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.599
Yeah, it does.
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.880
And I have to wipe it out once in a while.
00:31:59.279 --> 00:31:59.680
Yeah.
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.920
Yeah, it does get kind of dirty in there.
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:02.559
Huh.
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.599
Do you um do you do that with herbs as well?
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:11.039
I do that with herbs as well, herbs, herbs sometimes I do put in a bag and then they get really disgusting.
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.680
I know there's all these different ways that one should be storing one's herbs.
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.440
It just feels like a big drag.
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:20.319
I don't know.
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.680
I don't Oh, I did want to mention glass jars, because I know glass jars do seal.
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:26.880
I do too.
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:33.119
And even though they're round, they they do the job well enough in my seal well.
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:34.559
Yeah, they seal really well.
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.480
You can get them, they're really huge.
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:46.400
I do find, again, sort of in my adult life, the idea of like decanting some rice into a giant glass container is deeply satisfying.
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:56.559
Um and having them all sort of together, brown rice, basmati rice, whatever, oatmeal all in this section is is great.
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:57.440
It is.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:07.680
It's very satisfying to like see that in I mean, all this I feel like what this does like getting your s food storage under control, it makes like cooking more pleasurable.
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.759
Like seeing your food stored properly makes you more excited to eat it and to play with it and cook it.
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:14.240
For sure.
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:29.119
I know I've mentioned Laura Engels Wilder on this podcast before, but um in the like last Laura Engels Wilder of the series when she gets married and she and I think his name is Almonzo, like move out to like their homestead.
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:35.200
He builds her this kitchen and it's this very it's like it feels deeply romantic to me.
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:44.640
He builds her this kitchen and he builds her all these like different drawers for like one for oatmeal, one for sugar, one for flour.
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.440
And I was like that's amazing.
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:59.119
It was like a I think it was like an early, early sort of romance standard that was set up where like find a partner who will appreciate your kitchen organizational needs.
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.680
Yes, I'm gonna give you a sugar drawer.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.480
Exactly.
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.559
I will say with the glass jars, I recently um because I bought a bunch of wek jars years ago.
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:08.800
Yeah.
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.440
Just because I liked how they looked, they stacked those are glass jars that actually stacked very well in the cupboard.
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:14.159
Yeah, they really do.
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:22.559
Um but I got the I don't know if it's the traditional type of lid, but it's like the ring, the um rubber ring, and then you have the clamps.
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:36.320
And I love the way it looks, but functionally for something that you're like, like I put my like coconut sugar in that and my chia seeds and stuff, and it's like I make a smoothie or I cook stuff regularly and like pulling the little plastic too much.
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:36.639
Yeah.
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.599
And I found that you can get little plastic lids for the wet jars that just pop on and off.
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:41.920
Yeah.
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.960
And so I ordered some of them, and it's a total game changer.
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.280
You can do the same thing with mason jars.
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:55.599
Yes, I've done that with mason jars, and I agree, because it's like the lids used to get all rusty, and we'd use them for like pickles or whatever, and they got all funky.
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.440
But yeah, the plastic ones are great for that.
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.119
But I didn't know wek ones have them too.
00:34:59.199 --> 00:34:59.599
That makes sense.
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.000
And they just pop on and off.
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.920
They aren't, um I actually have some right here with some preserved lemons I'm making.
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.960
They aren't as airtight, I will say, for liquids.
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:18.320
But um, because it's not a screw top, it's uh but I actually found that to be true even for the rubber, the original lid contraption.
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.760
So I don't I don't think it's necessarily like a it makes it a worse product, yeah.
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.320
The Bon Meme, you know that is is that what how you say?
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:27.280
Oh, those jars.
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:27.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:28.559
I love those.
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.440
They're the best.
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.119
The only problem is they really don't hold like if you turn them upside down, everything will just pour out, even with the lid on.
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.840
I don't know if it was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a I always make salad dressing in that because it's so cute.
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:51.039
And then I think that's led to my uh shaking it up, yeah, to my non-emulsification as time goes on because when you shake it, salad dressing just gets all over you.
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.960
So then I don't really shake it very well, and then that problem.
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.880
But I can't stop myself because they're so cute.
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.719
Maybe it's that I've used them so much that they've become not airtight.
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:01.280
I don't know.
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:02.320
Mine never do it.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.559
I have I have an extra tall one that um I think I got it like Costco.
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.039
Costco.
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:07.440
Costco.
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:08.639
I know what you're talking about, yeah.
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.360
And they are the ultimate like smoothie remainder jar.
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:18.800
Because again, it's so pretty and it's tall and it has a lid, but again, you can't shake it.
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.960
I've tried, and then I get green smoothie all over myself every time.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.920
I'm like, I'll do it really carefully and slowly, and then it's still, but I can't give it up.
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.960
I love that jar.
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.159
Um, I mean, part of me wants to just continue and make this our like the.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.599
But now I have I feel compelled to ask you what is what's the plan for dinner tonight?
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.000
You know, I should have thought about this before.
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:41.679
I literally don't have a plan for dinner.
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.760
There's nothing really in the house.
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.360
Tom's out tonight.
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:46.880
So yeah, good question.
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.639
We ate all the leftovers yesterday, so the cupboard's sort of bare.
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:52.000
Casidias.
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.119
Maybe you'll have to consult our mildly desperate dinner sometimes.
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:56.400
That's true, actually.
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.119
That's true.
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.199
Maybe I'll make some caramelized tuna.
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.320
Oh, there you go.
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.280
Because I have been really trying to I have been really thinking about doing it, and then I haven't.
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:10.079
So if I make like a bowl, like some rice and some caramelized tuna, some cukes.
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:10.880
So good.
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:11.119
Yeah.
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:11.840
Put an egg on it.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.519
You know what I made just yesterday?
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.880
Have you done those like Korean?
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.079
I don't think it's even exclusively Korean, but like the marinated soy sauce marinated boiled eggs.
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.880
Oh, I have never made those, but they sound amazing.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.000
So good.
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:24.880
So good.
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:25.360
Okay.
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.280
Um and on rice with that tuna would be so good, too.
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.519
I have some hard-boiled eggs in the fridge, actually, or sort of jammy eggs, I guess.
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.519
Maybe I'll do that this morning and then get it.
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:45.280
Yeah, it's basically like equal parts soy sauce and water, and then whatever throw a little sweetener in there, some ginger garlic stuff, sesame seeds, sesame oil.
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.159
Um, mix it up and just let it sit for like up to 48 hours.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:50.800
Okay.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:59.199
I might try that and see, because I bet that could be sort of the sushi bowl, the new sushi bowl experience that the kids would get into.
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.280
Yeah, and like a little avocado too.
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:01.679
Yeah.
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.440
And avocado's been so good lately.
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.880
And so what's up with it?
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:06.400
What's going on?
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.559
We've been no, it must be a glut.
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.280
I know.
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:18.639
Henry had a dream last night about like guac world, and he came into bed this morning and he was like, Let me tell you about my dream.
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:23.920
I went to Guac World, and I was like, Is this like a guacamole a world of guacamole?
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.400
He was like, Yes, it was so great.
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.039
That sounds like heaven.
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:29.679
It does.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.519
You just had a religious dream.
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.719
Exactly.
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:34.079
What are you making for dinner?
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:35.199
I'm gonna be traveling.
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:44.079
I'm flying to Cleveland this evening to see my friend Megan, who made a short film that's in the Cleveland Film Festival, and so I'm gonna go see that.
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.599
I don't really know what the dinner plan is.
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.000
I think we're eating something out, but I'm excited for that.
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.360
Oh, that'll be so fun.
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.119
And just the two of you guys.
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.679
Yeah, Vincent was gonna come, but he has to stay here.
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.559
Um it's just gonna be the two of us, which is great.
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.840
Megan and I have been friends for something like 25 years now.
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.599
So it'll be really fun.
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.679
And she's she has uh a daughter and her husband's home, and so it'll be like a fun little friendly guys.
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.199
Okay, well, close out part one of food storage.
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.000
Yeah, exactly.
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.119
To be continued.
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:14.400
To be continued.
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.039
Okay.
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:15.599
Cool.
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.280
Okay, well, um drop safe.
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:17.760
Thanks.
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Enjoy your dinner.
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:19.039
Have fun tonight.
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:20.079
Okay, bye.
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Bye.
