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What's up everybody. Welcome to a very special episode of
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Rose Pricks. I it's me Stephanie Wilder Taylor, and I'm
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here with my husband John Taylor.
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Hello. Hello, I'm a little different from Cecily, but variations
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on the same theme.
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Absolutely. Okay. The reason why I asked John to come
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on the show is because he's been keeping me abreast
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of this situation with a podcaster. We're pretty chronically online,
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wouldn't you say, John, I'd say barely.
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Yeah, I actually may be more than you.
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Okay, Well, that's true, and that's why you're here, because
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you've been telling me this kind of crazy story about
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this comedian. Is he a comedian. Yeah, he's a comedian.
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He's a comic. He's pretty well known. He's the reason
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he's probably not on your radar is because he's a
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Rogan guy. I think that you've developed sort of a
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conscientious filter to screen out sort of most of the
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Rogan bros.
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Right, Well, do you want to like start us out
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with telling us about what's up with him?
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Yeah? Our our topic for today, our inn date for
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today is young Akash Sing who some people, I mean,
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I'm sure that a number of people in your audience
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actually do know because he's kind of up and coming.
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He's not like a huge name, but he's you know,
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he does fairly well, and he's been around for about
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ten years and he's got a decent following on TikTok.
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He's got a decent following on YouTube. That's sort of
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where he built his following, as you do these days.
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So the big story is okay, so Akash, he's a rising,
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pretty rogue and affiliated comic. He has been doing pretty
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well from himself with very few hiccups until recently. His
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big thing is he's really known for his crowd work.
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And again that's the big way that over the last
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four or five years comics really have been putting their
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CrowdWork online because it helps them tour. Nobody hears their jokes.
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They just see a lot of crowd work bits. Sometimes
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they're real, sometimes they're set up. But Akash became known
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because he would do a lot and a lot of
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his material and the crowd work and a lot of
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his just his stand up material overall was built on
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the fact that he is a He's a first generation
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product of Indian American parents who wanted him to be
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a doctor. And he, you know, was in pre med
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in Texas but started doing open mic and fell in
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love with it, and you know, told the parents sort
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of like the jazz singer, not going to be doctor,
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I'm going to be a stand up And so he
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dropped out of college and started grinding it out on
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the open mic scene, and things slowly started to happen.
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But it's kind of a very traditional story. He started
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grinding out about two thousand and eight, twenty ten, and
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he was mostly under the radar, but he slowly got
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noticed online and then he started to get picked up
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by little things like MTB had a roast show called
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Wild and Out, and he was very good on that.
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He's very quick. Then he got some traditional acting work
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sort of as The Indian Guy and The Leftovers and
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on Netflix Brown Nation. So things were starting to happen.
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And so one big thing started to happen was that
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doing stand up, he became really tight friends with Andrew Schultz,
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who was an even bigger Rogan bro. And Andrew Schultz,
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for those of you who follow the Rogan sphere's that
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I don't know.
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Why before you, before you go into this part, do
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you want me to play a clip of him doing
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crowd work.
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Yeah, sure, do a little. You've got a clip there
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so this, I think you've got a clip of him
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just kind of riffing with the guy in the crowd.
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Okay, here we go.
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What do you do, sir? Managed tells you mother? What's
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your day's name? But tell I told you, I told you,
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I told you I'm a racism I'm so good. So
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you manage hotels. Your parents own a hotel, you run
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it for them. I told you what shitty chain of
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hotels are? They own a Cono lodge or something?
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Is it a conno lodge? You will do slum lords?
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Dog?
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All right, I think we get it.
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Did our dog just have a negative reaction to a gosh?
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Yes?
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God, he hates crowd work. He's always been a lot
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of a lot of dogs, really because they smell a setup.
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Mm hmm true.
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Anyhow so, but to be fair, he's not a bad comic.
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He's you know, he leans a little bit on the tropes.
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You know, I'm Indian American and I have a very
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traditional family, and look at how I upset them. But
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he's not. I mean to give him his due. He's
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a he's a decent working comic, and his star really
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started to rise when he became really tight buddies. As
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I was saying before with Andrew Schultz, and for those
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of you who know, you sort of have the you
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have the chessboard of the Rogan sphere. And Andrew Schultz
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is kind of a made Rogan guy. He's kind of
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like a bishop or a Knight on that board. And
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in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Andrew Schultz and Akash Saying
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launched what was supposed to be a sports podcast called Flagrant.
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I think it was called Flagrant Too, which is a
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basketball term. Basically you get an extra free throw of
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the foul is flagrant. It didn't. It grew really slowly,
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but then suddenly started you know, talking about pop culture
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and ripping up other comics and you know taking apart
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you know, pop culture everything. And then it really got traction,
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and it got to the point where after about four
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or five years they had two million subscribers. They were
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in the top fifty. They were sort of riding the
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Rogan bubble. They're kind of riding in his wake, his coattails,
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and things were going really well. He was making hundreds
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of thousands, maybe even you know, millions of dollars a
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year off having a podcast that big, and he started
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to become a guest on Brogan's podcast and and ultimately,
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you know, flagrant and became one of the stops on
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Donald Trump's infamous podbro tour that really seemed to work
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distressingly well. And he you know, he came on with
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Akash and Andrew Schuls and yucked it up and really
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just some you know, maybe a particular type of view
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humanized him a little bit more. But in any case,
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in the wake of that, suddenly Akasha is on top
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of the world. He helped elect to president. He's you know,
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he's making tons of money, but they're one other thing
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is going on that's really kind of going for cash.
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At this point is Akasha is about thirty, but he
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is fallen in love with a somewhat younger wife or
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I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead here. He got a girlfriend
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named jas Lee, who was a strikingly attractive Indian woman
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who he met and moved in with, and he was
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very smitten with her. Started to talk about her in
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his act, started to talk about her on the podcast,
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started to put clips of her on his social media
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and it was kind of interesting how Akash has always
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been very outspoken and how much he loves his wife,
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and just how shocked he was that he could find
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such a hottie that is culturally committed to him as
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or culturally committed as he was to being a virgin
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when that got married in a cash for all of
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his you know, hipster sarcasm or really dating myself, there
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is you know, odd bro sarcasm. Was very outspoken that
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he was going to save himself from marriage. So he
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was just you know, always leaned into you would not
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believe my wife is so smoking hot, but she's a virgin,
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and I think I played clip clip kind of yeah,
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he kind of.
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Okay, I'm gonna play a clip Okay.
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My wife also hadn't had any sexual partners, so that
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helped us connect a lot more.
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Let me ask you this, and you believe her.
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If you've seen her, then it's hard to believe. I
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remember I was just like what but she was like
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she was twenty two, I was thirty one.
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There was an age yet.
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Sure did you lie or did you like did you
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come right out and say like.
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Oh me too?
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Or was it what did the conversation go like, I.
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Don't remember how it came. I think she said it
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blacked out, she said it, and then I was like.
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She said, I'm a virgin you want.
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Yeah, yeah, she's compared to.
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Anybody else.
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So happy, YEA, relieved?
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All right, So we got it right?
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just you know, he was proud and overjoyed that, you know,
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he had a beautiful girlfriend who had never had sex.
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And uh but even with that sort of in his pocket.
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It from the start there were some some real bumps
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in Akasha's romantic sort of coming of age with jazz
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Lene and what should have somewhat been like a Bollywood
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remake of The Blue Lagoon with two you know, two
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young sexual naives, it sort of turned into a George
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Costanza subplot from Seinfeld.
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MM.
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So it started off with Cash as I said, was
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he just had a huge habit of showing off his
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beautiful girlfriend then wife on some social media, and fans
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started to notice that physically he seemed way more into
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her than she was to him, and he would put
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up videos of every time he tried to go kiss her,
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she would turn. He'd try to kiss her on the
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lips and he'd end up getting the back of her jaw,
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and it became really a marked sort of habit that
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everybody sort of started to notice in all of his videos,
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and it hit a crescendo when he tried to stage
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a surprise proposal on a New York City street. He
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goes through the whole thing, He takes a knee, surprises
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her with a ring, but even then she says yes.
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But when he tries to follow up on her acceptance
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with a kiss on the lips, even on the moment
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of their proposal, he gets the cheek. I feel sorry
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for the guys. It was a little It was sad,
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and it only got sad or when he posted his
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wedding video and again on the moment of their wedding,
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after the vows, he goes in for a kiss and
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he gets the cheek. It's just it's sad. But maybe
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maybe she was just shy. But well that go ahead.
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Well probably not because of what's coming. Doesn't seem shy.
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Akasha's Akash could tell himself that, and he could sort
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of lean on that. That's my delicate shy bride. But
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last year, jess Lene decided that she wanted a little
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more out of out of life than you know, just
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having a wealthy, successful comic as a as a husband.
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So she decided to launch her own podcast and become
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as the kids do, she wanted to become an influencer.
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Oh god.
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So her her podcast was appropriately titled as Wilson See
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main Character because she apparently has that main character energy
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the kids all love to manifest and with that title,
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you it kind of started out, as you would think,
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sort of innocuously, but mostly Jaslene started out just kind of,
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you know, bragging that Akash gave her everything and she
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really didn't have to do much. Now, I'm not going
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to sit here and go, well, she's the wife and
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he's rich. It's her job to cook and clean. That's
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a little backward, but it's just kind of the way
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she she kind of gloated on the fact that she
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was a captain woman.
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Let's play a clip.
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It was an interest. Why don't you play a clip?
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I will right now?
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Why why? Why why tell? When you can show or play?
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Here we go. How do you guys handle things around
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the house? Oh, I actually don't cook and clean.
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Ever, oh I don't cook, I don't clean.
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Let me tell you, I got.
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This ran Okay, So I try to cook like maybe
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once a week, but since I've been making content and.
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Tacts, that hasn't really been happening.
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But no, we have like a cleaning lady come once
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a week because also, like cleaning is hard and it's
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really stressful, and it damages your cuticles and your nails
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if you spend like X amount of money on the nails,
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and it's kind of a waste to like up your manicure.
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That's how we kind of split that we outsource, which I.
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Truly believe it.
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And then for laundry, like I do my own laundry,
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he does his own laundry.
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So when we first moved in together, I was doing
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both of our laundries together.
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A worse mistake of my life.
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His clothes made my clothes so smelly.
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The smell is unreal because the balls no offense to
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the homeless people. But like you know when you get
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on the subway and there's like a homeless person sleeping and.
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Like everyone has to get out of that car. Yeah,
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that's what my husband's balls smell.
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Oh my God, I hope he's not mad. It like
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how wow?
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Yeah, wow, I should there's another voice you hear. She
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co hosts that podcast with her best friend. I may
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not be pronouncing your name correctly, but nihal okay, and
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who is a close friend of hers, and she plays
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the second banana. But and that'll actually become material coming
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up or become So this is a.
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This is a clip about how his money. Yeah, I've heard,
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I've seen this clip before. This is a funny one. Okay,
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here we go, black.
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His money is our money and my money is my money.
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That is actually my number one.
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They must be generous with their finances from day.
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And so, wow, she's a gem, isn't she. She's great,
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particularly going back to where you know her husband's ball
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smells like the homeless, right, but a warm nurturer.
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But then, okay, so we know what kind of girl
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this is. But everything is fine until around the holidays.
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So this is this is where we start getting into
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current day.
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Right.
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Yeah, everything was you know, he got a little bit
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of flack because you know, people were picking up that
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she was kind of flexing on sort of how much
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she dominated the house and she kind of had him
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under her thumb. But you know that could be just
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flexing and silliness, and you know that's.
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Also skip over her, just like putting down homeless people
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on our podcast.
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Now, she doesn't seem like she's the salt of the
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earth or a very patient person. She has she clearly
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has some expectations of you know, the level at which
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she wants to live her life and what she wants
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to have and how she I mean, she doesn't seem
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like she's she's really got the common touch. But that's
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I'm just picking that up from a few from what
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I've seen of a few clips. Maybe I've got it wrong,
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but the first impression isn't a warm and fuzzy one.
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No, so around the holidays.
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It escalated around the holidays. I don't know, I mean,
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I don't have any real insight into whether her podcast
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was doing well struggling what it was doing the numbers,
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but it seemed clear that she made a choice that
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she was going to you know, add a little rebrained
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in sort of make her podcast maybe a little bit
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more like Call Her Daddy, which is kind of Alex
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Cooper's podcast, where she at least started out being sort
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of the uber sexual girl boss, who you know, was
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just this sexual conquista door and was telling her stories. Well,
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Jaslene obviously took some notes, because in one episode last December,
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she started reminiscing to her co host about all the
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sexual fireworks she had in her days back in the
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two thousand and early twenty tens when she was an
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undergrad at Drexel. But this didn't exactly jibe with her
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being the vestal virgin that married gosh.
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Right, this is a great clip. Yeah, okay, so here
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we go.
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Hopping my pussy and living my best life in these
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white boy frat houses.
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And I had a roster of guys that I would
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rotate through.
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Wait, okay, I have two butt whole stories.
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So one time I met this guy on Tinder and
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I made the dumb mistake of letting him sleep over,
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like not really wanting to hook up, and I like
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woke up in the morning and like my asshole was
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a little sore.
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Oh my, and the whole thing was so explosive. There
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you go.
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So that's so, but that's a sexual assault by the
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way that she's just laughing about.
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Yeah. The second and it's funny because the intonation made
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it sound like it was two different people. That was
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one that was her in the same episode, but she
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just was canted a little higher in the second one.
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But in the first one, she's saying, oh, I was
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hopping my pussy quote unquote with white boyfrit Houses, and
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I had a whole roster of guys, right, And that
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was that was one thing. But yeah, then the second
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one was she woke up after a Tinder date or
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something like that and her asshole was a little sore.
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Yeah, but she says, I didn't want to hook up,
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but then I woke up and I mean, that's horrible,
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was she And she's smiling and laughing about it. It's weird.
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Yeah, I mean, it wasn't presented as this terrible thing happened.
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It was presented sort of as this silly night one
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night after shots or something.
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Like that, right, Right, So then she does another thing
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where she talks about wanting to have sex with her
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co host husband.
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Yeah, this is where her friend nihal Is knee hal Is.
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And again I'm sorry if I'm just destroying that name,
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but it's supposedly her best friend and apparently Akash and
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Niehl's husband or friends and she and they're sort of
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a foursome, but not in the way that Jaslene was
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kind of speculating might happen, and either in a three way.
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I don't know what the configuration is, but play the
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clip I'll.
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Ever have an orgy together with your husband. I'm actively
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trying to have an orgy because this couple is so
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fucking good looking. And you haven't seen Navi yet, but
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wait till you fucking see him. His body goes crazy,
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his face card always slays, never to time, and it's kind.
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Of weird because I'm talking about your husband.
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I kind of believe it, but I'm like us four Okay,
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maybe maybe I just know that Nastic is like at
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least ten inches.
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You would only be down for an orgy for it's sick.
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I will say, like Accash is such a fucking thing,
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like everyone knows he's the best husband, and.
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Yeah, yeah, where do you find where do you find
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old fashioned goals like that? So as so yeah.
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So then he starts, so people hear all this stuff.
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That gets you know that the Internet is unforgiving and
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that takes about three nanoseconds to be chopped up and
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put on. Every podcast recap video put on Reddit, the
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entire the Internet basically explodes, and you know, videos start
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proclaiming that Akash is the new Will Smith, who if
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you remember, after had to Pickett and you know, came
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out and said you had a boyfriend, and basically trying
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to make the case that Akash is now the world's
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biggest cock or simp or whatever your term is. Akash
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is just taking a beating and it's probably made about
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you know, eight times worse because his fame basically was
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created in the manosphere. So he gets ripped up by
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all of these you know, fairly insecure guys who were
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taking supplements and taking HGH and taking cold plunges. This
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is terrifying to them. So even the Flagrant there, you know,
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you've got Andrew Schultz and two other co hosts and
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they just start slow roasting him on every episode to
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the point and it just keeps building until finally on
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Flagrant they produce a special episode where both a Kash
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and jazz Leene are invited on and they continue skewering
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them as jazz Leine and Akash are basically they're trying
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to explain their situation, but to kind of cover Akasha's
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ego and his claims. They try to create this story
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where nobody really understood what she was talking about. She
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was a virgin and nobody understood. It was just she
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was using terms that she didn't understand. Oh, she was
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just so innocent that she had no earthly idea what
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she was saying, you know, hopping pussy. I mean she
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thought that meant feeding her cat. So anyway, I think
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there's there's another clip to be had here. Okay, I'm
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really just trying to trying to dig out of this one.
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Here we go, you do pop pussy. Let's just get
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some different Yeah, we're going to any terms.
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Then you might need to know the actual meaning of
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Alex is here to break it in there.
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I thought it was just like dancing, getting dressed up,
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and maybe that was my mistake.
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Knowledge.
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Yeah, the act of getting dressed out looking for you.
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Is it sure that you said that there was a
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rotation of guys roster roster?
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What is a roster that? What does this mean?
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You guys have to understand?
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Have you ever heard of the repressed Catholic school girl?
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I was in his living rooms.
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Pressed Indian girl that I didn't even watch Jersey Shore
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in high school? Because I felt it to be too inappropriate.
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So when I got to college, I'm like, oh my god,
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I can dress however I want. I can do whatever
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I want.
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You can have a roster of practice.
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What a roster meaning?
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It didn't actually translate to a roster.
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It just meant like two guys I was talking to
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and flirting without the same time.
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That's it, that's all. Yeah.
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And when you say hooking up, I think people I.
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Mean hooking up. I just went making out again.
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Like everything I say is so amplified and hyperbolic because
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it's so like incongruous to who I'm actually who I
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actually am as a.
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Person, right, right, So you're saying you're a big old prude.
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Yeah, so they somehow tried to spin yeah go so
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so yeah, I mean so she it was just a
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big misunderstanding. I mean she was just flirting and talking
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and occasionally, you know, making out with guys so much
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that she woke up in her butt hurt.
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I mean, it's so hard because there is a part
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of me that's like, maybe this it maybe she thinks
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it's really cool, Like her husband has this podcast, so
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she's putting on, like you said, this call call her
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daddy kind of thing, and maybe it isn't who I mean,
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is that possible. It just seems weird that she would
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have this I'm a virgin and then completely be the
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other way.
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And then pivot a second time to go I just
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didn't know what those words meant. I mean, it was
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so ludicrous, and you know it naturally, I mean, her
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attempts to or their collective attempt to kind of backfill
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this story only made it so much worse, kind of
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spice and affecting the whole thing, and it just, you know,
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it was pouring gas on the story. So after she
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went on, you know, it just became another round of
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stories about you know, how Akash is just being absolutely
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owned by his wife. But Akash, naturally, I mean, he
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just digs in and he takes a brave public stand
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and he just says, how dare you insult my wife?
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And he just really just stands up for her and
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backs it all down on the podcast. Okay, it's not
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at all true. He immediately goes into hiding pretty much.
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He after that show, he dipped out from all episodes
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of Lagrant. For months, he kept doing stand up. People
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would see him doing stand up but nothing, no podcasts,
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not his podcast, he just you know, he went to
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ground Wow. So after I don't know, I think it
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was like that's around the holidays. So he had a
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big gig that had been scheduled before for Radio City
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Music Hall. It was like his big, you know, big
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venue debut, and so he had to go out and
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do some promo for that, and he went on if
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you're around New York City, you know that Hot ninety
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seven is this big hip hop sort of hub of
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New York. And so he went on there to do promo,
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but you could see sort of his brain had been
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in cope mode for for months by the time he
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got there. And I think we've got a little bit
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of that. You can play him on Hot ninety seven.
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Okay, here we go.
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No, she just said she said shit that if I
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said it, everybody would say it was a joke. And
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she and I have a because we've only had sex
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with each other. She and I have a relationship where
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it's like I don't give up what you say, she
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can't give what I say. I have her location, she
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has my location. Every time. If you look at ninety
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percent of tiktoks, they're on our couch, like, she don't
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go nowhere without me. So I'm like, whatever, whatever you say,
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I don't care. I know you, but the internet just
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ran with it and made it a thing, and at
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first you really liked me.
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Up.
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I wanted to ask you, how did you really feel?
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Because like, I can ever engauge because you are a comic.
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You're so good at this. You do have thick skin.
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Yeah, scene like meaning for the most part, the success
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that you have had.
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I don't know.
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I don't feel like things really phase you like that,
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So I couldn't gage deeply faced. So what hurt you
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about it? It's just they're saying it about your wife,
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and I think the stuff they say about me will
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make me insecure. But when you're saying this about my
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wife and you're calling her all this vile stuff. People
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were messaging my mom and her mom saying she's a whore,
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she's dish, she's dad was like, you know, this is
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crazy how far this has gone and everything she gets said,
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y'all are chopping up. And I, dude, I've probably done
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this with a thousand famous people, So I don't knock
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the people who did it, but it did let me.
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I think God is everything for a reason, and I
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think for me, this was God's way because this is
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how I found out I was I had some level
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of fame. I truly this is recent.
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Yeah, I mean you're just realizing your fame.
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I didn't know because people would be like, what was here?
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I made it? Moment I was like, I haven't made it?
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What are you talking about? And now it's like, well,
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when the whole world called my wife a whore, I
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realized I'm doing Okay, she made.
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Them an a pause it there, I think we get it.
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It's I mean, you get to a point.
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We're feeling bad. I'm actually feeling bad for both of
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these people.
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Now.
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I don't know when she she's she's very young and
519
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she's very try hard, and what if it's not true?
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What if and even if it was, now I'm kind
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of feeling like.
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Yeah, they air it's I'm I'm generally in the camp.
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I mean, I think, you know, I feel badly for
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what's happened. And to a degree, it's like, okay, a
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cash should have I mean, if you're not famous and
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suddenly fame comes and strikes you, but you're kind of
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your fame is planted in the manosphere. You're not gonna
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go Okay, I'd rather not be famous than get famous
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in the manosphere. So to that degree, it's it's maybe
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not fair one about to say, but he kind of
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by building his fame in kind of this super toxic,
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somewhat misogynist, you know area of the internet.
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Yeah, that's where I definitely don't feel sorry for him
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because fuck that guy with his Andrew Schultz.
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I mean, yeah, but you want me to uh again,
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I'm zigging and zagging and now let me I will
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say one thing that one of the very early things
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that Akash did, this will get your sympathy going again. Akash.
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Very early they had the co hosts of Fresh and Fit,
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which is, you know, flagrant is a broadcast, but they're
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not out there saying the worst things Fresh and Fit.
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Is this just you know, se adjacent It's horrible.
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Yeah, yeah, it was on the it was on the
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Netflix documentary. Yes, it's these two guys who are basically,
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you got to own your woman. She's got to you know,
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you've got to break her down, you've got to break
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her spirit, you've got to put her in her place,
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and she's got to make you a sandwich and give
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you six and then she needs to go sit in
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the corner. And they came on as guests to flagrant
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and to his credit, Akash was not kind of growing
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it out with him. He's like, this is really regrettable,
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and you guys, you know this is not how you
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should be. He was one of the first people to
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actually call out the guy, the actual one of the
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co hosts. I think his name's like Gaines, is like
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Myron Gaines, and he Akash actually put him on, you know,
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he put him on notice that he was being a
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real asshole. And because of that, Myron Gaines now two
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years later, has been waiting in the weeds and he's
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just been making Hay with everything that jazz Lene has
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been saying. So definitely there is area to feel some
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real sympathy for Akash from a couple of different sides.
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It's all very interesting. But how did this wrap up?
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How did this end? I mean, I feel like so
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he's basically taking a break from his podcast.
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He was taking a break from his podcast until last week.
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The story had one more acts to play out, and
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it was probably about the least surprising thing is that
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could possibly happen and Andrew Schultz opened up. I don't
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know whether they're once or twice a week, but either
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the episode last week or one of the episodes last
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week started out with sort of a very serious Andrew
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Schul's announcement and I think we got that.
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Okay, here we go.
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Now we got to address the elephant in the room,
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no pun intended, Okay, as I'm sure you guys wear
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boy our Gosh, she really went through it earlier this year,
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showed amazing resilience and you know, selling out Radio City recently,
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sending records in Toronto, just crushing stand up around the
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globe and literally just like living the dreams that he
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would tell me about at two in the morning when
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we're eating fucking egg sandwiches at the Selka.
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So it's been amazing to see.
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But the experience has put things in perspective for him,
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and he has made the decision to focus all of
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his energy on stand up. He is going to be
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stepping away from the pod. It is bittersweet, you know,
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we wish that he did not want to do that,
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but at the same time, you know, it's very hard
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not to root for your friends, you know, literally living
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his dreams and if he feels that he's got to
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give everything to that, then that's exactly what he's got
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to do. And we're going to rock with them. We
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hope you guys continue to rock with them. Go check
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out the show. We saw the show Radio City.
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It's phenomenal.
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You guys should absolutely check out.
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So, yeah, do you want to make so?
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Yeah? What do you take away is the more I
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mean so akash.
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So he does not want to put up with being
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his wife being insulted, and but she's not stopping what
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she's doing. Correct.
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I believe her podcast is still jugging along. I think,
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I mean, I think she's got about two thousand subscribers,
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so it's not like a not a juggernaut. But but
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he really mean for a while, I think I looked
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it up last week. I think Flagrant was somewhere around
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the thirtieth or thirty fifth biggest podcast in the world.
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Oh wow, he was.
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Yeah, it was a big podcast. And for him to
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just be driven off it, you're just sort of like,
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on one hand, you're like, Okay, well, you know, live
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by the manosphere, died by the manosphere. But he's not.
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You know, I have some sympathy for the guy. I mean,
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he's not an awful guy. I think he got into
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a situation that got away from him. The internet does
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what the internet's going to do, and you know, it's
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just an interesting modern sort of tale of I don't
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know what.
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But what's his stand up?
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Like?
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Do you know? I mean, I mean, I know we
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talked about it at the beginning of the episode, but
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I mean, does he say like shitty things about women?
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Is he? Is?
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He? He's not? I mean, I've never It's hard to tell.
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I went, actually, I went to try to find some
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of his actual you know, some of his material other
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than but a lot of these touring guys are smart.
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They put up you know, It's like Matt Rife. You
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never saw any of his jokes, and then when people
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actually did see his jokes, they were like, oh my god,
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he's a terrible comic. He's much better at crowd work.
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But a lot of these guys they don't put their
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material up. They just put their crowd work up because
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it you know, it keeps it from you and just
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completely played out. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's
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I will say, if you look at some of the
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stuff when he was on MTV. He's got a quick mind.
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He's a quick guy. He's not he's absolutely he's a
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smart guy. I just think that, you know the Internet.
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I don't know whether you know he was trying to
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pool himself or his wife was fooliam or she just
646
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really did try to create this persona for clicks. But
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it's it's a modern internet bearable.
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Well, thank you so much, John for joining us today,
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for joining me, for being with me and and telling
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us this great story. We did something a little bit different.
651
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I think it's I think it was good.
652
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Maybe maybe I can be your Manosphere correspondent.
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I was gonna say, now I'm gonna go pop some
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pussy and you Yeah, I.
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Want I want to I want one of those egg
656
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sandwiches Andrew Schultz was talking about. Maybe you could make
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it for me.
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All right, bye, everybody, see you later, bay Ye
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What's up everybody. Welcome to a very special episode of
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Rose Pricks. I it's me Stephanie Wilder Taylor, and I'm
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here with my husband John Taylor.
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Hello. Hello, I'm a little different from Cecily, but variations
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on the same theme.
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Absolutely. Okay. The reason why I asked John to come
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on the show is because he's been keeping me abreast
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of this situation with a podcaster. We're pretty chronically online,
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wouldn't you say, John, I'd say barely.
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Yeah, I actually may be more than you.
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Okay, Well, that's true, and that's why you're here, because
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you've been telling me this kind of crazy story about
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this comedian. Is he a comedian. Yeah, he's a comedian.
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He's a comic. He's pretty well known. He's the reason
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he's probably not on your radar is because he's a
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Rogan guy. I think that you've developed sort of a
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conscientious filter to screen out sort of most of the
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Rogan bros.
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Right, Well, do you want to like start us out
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with telling us about what's up with him?
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Yeah? Our our topic for today, our inn date for
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today is young Akash Sing who some people, I mean,
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I'm sure that a number of people in your audience
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actually do know because he's kind of up and coming.
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He's not like a huge name, but he's you know,
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he does fairly well, and he's been around for about
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ten years and he's got a decent following on TikTok.
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He's got a decent following on YouTube. That's sort of
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where he built his following, as you do these days.
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So the big story is okay, so Akash, he's a rising,
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pretty rogue and affiliated comic. He has been doing pretty
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well from himself with very few hiccups until recently. His
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big thing is he's really known for his crowd work.
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And again that's the big way that over the last
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four or five years comics really have been putting their
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CrowdWork online because it helps them tour. Nobody hears their jokes.
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They just see a lot of crowd work bits. Sometimes
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they're real, sometimes they're set up. But Akash became known
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because he would do a lot and a lot of
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his material and the crowd work and a lot of
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his just his stand up material overall was built on
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the fact that he is a He's a first generation
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product of Indian American parents who wanted him to be
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a doctor. And he, you know, was in pre med
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in Texas but started doing open mic and fell in
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love with it, and you know, told the parents sort
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of like the jazz singer, not going to be doctor,
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I'm going to be a stand up And so he
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dropped out of college and started grinding it out on
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the open mic scene, and things slowly started to happen.
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But it's kind of a very traditional story. He started
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grinding out about two thousand and eight, twenty ten, and
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he was mostly under the radar, but he slowly got
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noticed online and then he started to get picked up
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by little things like MTB had a roast show called
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Wild and Out, and he was very good on that.
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He's very quick. Then he got some traditional acting work
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sort of as The Indian Guy and The Leftovers and
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on Netflix Brown Nation. So things were starting to happen.
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And so one big thing started to happen was that
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doing stand up, he became really tight friends with Andrew Schultz,
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who was an even bigger Rogan bro. And Andrew Schultz,
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for those of you who follow the Rogan sphere's that
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I don't know.
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Why before you, before you go into this part, do
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you want me to play a clip of him doing
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crowd work.
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Yeah, sure, do a little. You've got a clip there
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so this, I think you've got a clip of him
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just kind of riffing with the guy in the crowd.
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Okay, here we go.
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What do you do, sir? Managed tells you mother? What's
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your day's name? But tell I told you, I told you,
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I told you I'm a racism I'm so good. So
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you manage hotels. Your parents own a hotel, you run
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it for them. I told you what shitty chain of
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hotels are? They own a Cono lodge or something?
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Is it a conno lodge? You will do slum lords?
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Did our dog just have a negative reaction to a gosh?
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Yes?
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God, he hates crowd work. He's always been a lot
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of a lot of dogs, really because they smell a setup.
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Mm hmm true.
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Anyhow so, but to be fair, he's not a bad comic.
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He's you know, he leans a little bit on the tropes.
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traditional family, and look at how I upset them. But
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he's not. I mean to give him his due. He's
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a he's a decent working comic, and his star really
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started to rise when he became really tight buddies. As
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I was saying before with Andrew Schultz, and for those
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of you who know, you sort of have the you
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have the chessboard of the Rogan sphere. And Andrew Schultz
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is kind of a made Rogan guy. He's kind of
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like a bishop or a Knight on that board. And
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in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Andrew Schultz and Akash Saying
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basketball term. Basically you get an extra free throw of
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the foul is flagrant. It didn't. It grew really slowly,
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but then suddenly started you know, talking about pop culture
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you know, pop culture everything. And then it really got traction,
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or five years they had two million subscribers. They were
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in the top fifty. They were sort of riding the
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Rogan bubble. They're kind of riding in his wake, his coattails,
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and things were going really well. He was making hundreds
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of thousands, maybe even you know, millions of dollars a
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year off having a podcast that big, and he started
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to become a guest on Brogan's podcast and and ultimately,
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you know, flagrant and became one of the stops on
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Donald Trump's infamous podbro tour that really seemed to work
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distressingly well. And he you know, he came on with
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Akash and Andrew Schuls and yucked it up and really
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just some you know, maybe a particular type of view
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humanized him a little bit more. But in any case,
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in the wake of that, suddenly Akasha is on top
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of the world. He helped elect to president. He's you know,
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he's making tons of money, but they're one other thing
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who he met and moved in with, and he was
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very smitten with her. Started to talk about her in
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his act, started to talk about her on the podcast,
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such a hottie that is culturally committed to him as
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when that got married in a cash for all of
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his you know, hipster sarcasm or really dating myself, there
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he was going to save himself from marriage. So he
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was just you know, always leaned into you would not
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believe my wife is so smoking hot, but she's a virgin,
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My wife also hadn't had any sexual partners, so that
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she was twenty two, I was thirty one.
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Oh me too?
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blacked out, she said it, and then I was like.
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She said, I'm a virgin you want.
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Anybody else.
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So happy, YEA, relieved?
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All right, So we got it right?
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just you know, he was proud and overjoyed that, you know,
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he had a beautiful girlfriend who had never had sex.
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remake of The Blue Lagoon with two you know, two
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young sexual naives, it sort of turned into a George
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he just had a huge habit of showing off his
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beautiful girlfriend then wife on some social media, and fans
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started to notice that physically he seemed way more into
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her than she was to him, and he would put
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up videos of every time he tried to go kiss her,
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she would turn. He'd try to kiss her on the
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lips and he'd end up getting the back of her jaw,
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everybody sort of started to notice in all of his videos,
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a surprise proposal on a New York City street. He
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goes through the whole thing, He takes a knee, surprises
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her with a ring, but even then she says yes.
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with a kiss on the lips, even on the moment
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of their proposal, he gets the cheek. I feel sorry
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for the guys. It was a little It was sad,
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wedding video and again on the moment of their wedding,
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after the vows, he goes in for a kiss and
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he gets the cheek. It's just it's sad. But maybe
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maybe she was just shy. But well that go ahead.
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Akasha's Akash could tell himself that, and he could sort
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of lean on that. That's my delicate shy bride. But
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last year, jess Lene decided that she wanted a little
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more out of out of life than you know, just
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having a wealthy, successful comic as a as a husband.
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as the kids do, she wanted to become an influencer.
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So her her podcast was appropriately titled as Wilson See
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main Character because she apparently has that main character energy
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the kids all love to manifest and with that title,
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you it kind of started out, as you would think,
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sort of innocuously, but mostly Jaslene started out just kind of,
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you know, bragging that Akash gave her everything and she
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really didn't have to do much. Now, I'm not going
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to sit here and go, well, she's the wife and
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he's rich. It's her job to cook and clean. That's
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a little backward, but it's just kind of the way
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she she kind of gloated on the fact that she
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was a captain woman.
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Let's play a clip.
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It was an interest. Why don't you play a clip?
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I will right now?
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Why why? Why why tell? When you can show or play?
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Here we go. How do you guys handle things around
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the house? Oh, I actually don't cook and clean.
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Ever, oh I don't cook, I don't clean.
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a week because also, like cleaning is hard and it's
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really stressful, and it damages your cuticles and your nails
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if you spend like X amount of money on the nails,
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That's how we kind of split that we outsource, which I.
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Truly believe it.
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he does his own laundry.
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both of our laundries together.
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A worse mistake of my life.
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His clothes made my clothes so smelly.
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The smell is unreal because the balls no offense to
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the homeless people. But like you know when you get
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on the subway and there's like a homeless person sleeping and.
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that's what my husband's balls smell.
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Oh my God, I hope he's not mad. It like
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how wow?
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Yeah, wow, I should there's another voice you hear. She
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co hosts that podcast with her best friend. I may
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not be pronouncing your name correctly, but nihal okay, and
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who is a close friend of hers, and she plays
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the second banana. But and that'll actually become material coming
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up or become So this is a.
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This is a clip about how his money. Yeah, I've heard,
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I've seen this clip before. This is a funny one. Okay,
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here we go, black.
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His money is our money and my money is my money.
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That is actually my number one.
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They must be generous with their finances from day.
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particularly going back to where you know her husband's ball
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smells like the homeless, right, but a warm nurturer.
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this is. But everything is fine until around the holidays.
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current day.
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Yeah, everything was you know, he got a little bit
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of flack because you know, people were picking up that
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she was kind of flexing on sort of how much
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she dominated the house and she kind of had him
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under her thumb. But you know that could be just
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flexing and silliness, and you know that's.
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earth or a very patient person. She has she clearly
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has some expectations of you know, the level at which
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she wants to live her life and what she wants
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to have and how she I mean, she doesn't seem
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like she's she's really got the common touch. But that's
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I'm just picking that up from a few from what
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I've seen of a few clips. Maybe I've got it wrong,
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but the first impression isn't a warm and fuzzy one.
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It escalated around the holidays. I don't know, I mean,
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I don't have any real insight into whether her podcast
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was doing well struggling what it was doing the numbers,
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but it seemed clear that she made a choice that
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she was going to you know, add a little rebrained
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in sort of make her podcast maybe a little bit
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more like Call Her Daddy, which is kind of Alex
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Cooper's podcast, where she at least started out being sort
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of the uber sexual girl boss, who you know, was
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just this sexual conquista door and was telling her stories. Well,
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Jaslene obviously took some notes, because in one episode last December,
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she started reminiscing to her co host about all the
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sexual fireworks she had in her days back in the
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two thousand and early twenty tens when she was an
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undergrad at Drexel. But this didn't exactly jibe with her
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being the vestal virgin that married gosh.
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Right, this is a great clip. Yeah, okay, so here
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we go.
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Hopping my pussy and living my best life in these
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white boy frat houses.
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rotate through.
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Wait, okay, I have two butt whole stories.
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I made the dumb mistake of letting him sleep over,
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like not really wanting to hook up, and I like
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woke up in the morning and like my asshole was
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a little sore.
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Oh my, and the whole thing was so explosive. There
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you go.
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So that's so, but that's a sexual assault by the
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way that she's just laughing about.
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Yeah. The second and it's funny because the intonation made
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it sound like it was two different people. That was
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one that was her in the same episode, but she
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just was canted a little higher in the second one.
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But in the first one, she's saying, oh, I was
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hopping my pussy quote unquote with white boyfrit Houses, and
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I had a whole roster of guys, right, And that
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was that was one thing. But yeah, then the second
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one was she woke up after a Tinder date or
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something like that and her asshole was a little sore.
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Yeah, but she says, I didn't want to hook up,
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but then I woke up and I mean, that's horrible,
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was she And she's smiling and laughing about it. It's weird.
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Yeah, I mean, it wasn't presented as this terrible thing happened.
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It was presented sort of as this silly night one
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night after shots or something.
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Like that, right, Right, So then she does another thing
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where she talks about wanting to have sex with her
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co host husband.
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Yeah, this is where her friend nihal Is knee hal Is.
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And again I'm sorry if I'm just destroying that name,
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but it's supposedly her best friend and apparently Akash and
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Niehl's husband or friends and she and they're sort of
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a foursome, but not in the way that Jaslene was
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kind of speculating might happen, and either in a three way.
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I don't know what the configuration is, but play the
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clip I'll.
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Ever have an orgy together with your husband. I'm actively
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trying to have an orgy because this couple is so
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fucking good looking. And you haven't seen Navi yet, but
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wait till you fucking see him. His body goes crazy,
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his face card always slays, never to time, and it's kind.
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Of weird because I'm talking about your husband.
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I kind of believe it, but I'm like us four Okay,
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maybe maybe I just know that Nastic is like at
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least ten inches.
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You would only be down for an orgy for it's sick.
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I will say, like Accash is such a fucking thing,
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like everyone knows he's the best husband, and.
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Yeah, yeah, where do you find where do you find
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old fashioned goals like that? So as so yeah.
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So then he starts, so people hear all this stuff.
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That gets you know that the Internet is unforgiving and
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that takes about three nanoseconds to be chopped up and
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put on. Every podcast recap video put on Reddit, the
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entire the Internet basically explodes, and you know, videos start
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proclaiming that Akash is the new Will Smith, who if
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you remember, after had to Pickett and you know, came
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out and said you had a boyfriend, and basically trying
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to make the case that Akash is now the world's
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biggest cock or simp or whatever your term is. Akash
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is just taking a beating and it's probably made about
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you know, eight times worse because his fame basically was
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created in the manosphere. So he gets ripped up by
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all of these you know, fairly insecure guys who were
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taking supplements and taking HGH and taking cold plunges. This
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is terrifying to them. So even the Flagrant there, you know,
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you've got Andrew Schultz and two other co hosts and
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they just start slow roasting him on every episode to
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the point and it just keeps building until finally on
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Flagrant they produce a special episode where both a Kash
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and jazz Leene are invited on and they continue skewering
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them as jazz Leine and Akash are basically they're trying
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to explain their situation, but to kind of cover Akasha's
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ego and his claims. They try to create this story
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where nobody really understood what she was talking about. She
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was a virgin and nobody understood. It was just she
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was using terms that she didn't understand. Oh, she was
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just so innocent that she had no earthly idea what
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she was saying, you know, hopping pussy. I mean she
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thought that meant feeding her cat. So anyway, I think
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there's there's another clip to be had here. Okay, I'm
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really just trying to trying to dig out of this one.
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Here we go, you do pop pussy. Let's just get
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some different Yeah, we're going to any terms.
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Then you might need to know the actual meaning of
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Alex is here to break it in there.
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I thought it was just like dancing, getting dressed up,
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and maybe that was my mistake.
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Knowledge.
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Yeah, the act of getting dressed out looking for you.
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Is it sure that you said that there was a
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rotation of guys roster roster?
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What is a roster that? What does this mean?
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You guys have to understand?
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Have you ever heard of the repressed Catholic school girl?
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I was in his living rooms.
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Pressed Indian girl that I didn't even watch Jersey Shore
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in high school? Because I felt it to be too inappropriate.
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So when I got to college, I'm like, oh my god,
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I can dress however I want. I can do whatever
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I want.
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You can have a roster of practice.
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What a roster meaning?
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It didn't actually translate to a roster.
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It just meant like two guys I was talking to
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and flirting without the same time.
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That's it, that's all. Yeah.
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And when you say hooking up, I think people I.
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Mean hooking up. I just went making out again.
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Like everything I say is so amplified and hyperbolic because
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it's so like incongruous to who I'm actually who I
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actually am as a.
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Person, right, right, So you're saying you're a big old prude.
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Yeah, so they somehow tried to spin yeah go so
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so yeah, I mean so she it was just a
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big misunderstanding. I mean she was just flirting and talking
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and occasionally, you know, making out with guys so much
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that she woke up in her butt hurt.
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I mean, it's so hard because there is a part
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of me that's like, maybe this it maybe she thinks
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it's really cool, Like her husband has this podcast, so
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she's putting on, like you said, this call call her
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daddy kind of thing, and maybe it isn't who I mean,
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is that possible. It just seems weird that she would
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have this I'm a virgin and then completely be the
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other way.
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And then pivot a second time to go I just
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didn't know what those words meant. I mean, it was
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so ludicrous, and you know it naturally, I mean, her
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attempts to or their collective attempt to kind of backfill
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this story only made it so much worse, kind of
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spice and affecting the whole thing, and it just, you know,
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it was pouring gas on the story. So after she
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went on, you know, it just became another round of
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stories about you know, how Akash is just being absolutely
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owned by his wife. But Akash, naturally, I mean, he
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just digs in and he takes a brave public stand
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and he just says, how dare you insult my wife?
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And he just really just stands up for her and
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backs it all down on the podcast. Okay, it's not
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at all true. He immediately goes into hiding pretty much.
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He after that show, he dipped out from all episodes
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of Lagrant. For months, he kept doing stand up. People
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would see him doing stand up but nothing, no podcasts,
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not his podcast, he just you know, he went to
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ground Wow. So after I don't know, I think it
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was like that's around the holidays. So he had a
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big gig that had been scheduled before for Radio City
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Music Hall. It was like his big, you know, big
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venue debut, and so he had to go out and
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do some promo for that, and he went on if
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you're around New York City, you know that Hot ninety
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seven is this big hip hop sort of hub of
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New York. And so he went on there to do promo,
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but you could see sort of his brain had been
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in cope mode for for months by the time he
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got there. And I think we've got a little bit
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of that. You can play him on Hot ninety seven.
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Okay, here we go.
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No, she just said she said shit that if I
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said it, everybody would say it was a joke. And
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she and I have a because we've only had sex
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with each other. She and I have a relationship where
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it's like I don't give up what you say, she
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can't give what I say. I have her location, she
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has my location. Every time. If you look at ninety
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percent of tiktoks, they're on our couch, like, she don't
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go nowhere without me. So I'm like, whatever, whatever you say,
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I don't care. I know you, but the internet just
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ran with it and made it a thing, and at
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first you really liked me.
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Up.
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I wanted to ask you, how did you really feel?
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Because like, I can ever engauge because you are a comic.
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You're so good at this. You do have thick skin.
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Yeah, scene like meaning for the most part, the success
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that you have had.
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I don't know.
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I don't feel like things really phase you like that,
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So I couldn't gage deeply faced. So what hurt you
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about it? It's just they're saying it about your wife,
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and I think the stuff they say about me will
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make me insecure. But when you're saying this about my
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wife and you're calling her all this vile stuff. People
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were messaging my mom and her mom saying she's a whore,
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she's dish, she's dad was like, you know, this is
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crazy how far this has gone and everything she gets said,
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y'all are chopping up. And I, dude, I've probably done
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this with a thousand famous people, So I don't knock
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the people who did it, but it did let me.
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I think God is everything for a reason, and I
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think for me, this was God's way because this is
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how I found out I was I had some level
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of fame. I truly this is recent.
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Yeah, I mean you're just realizing your fame.
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I didn't know because people would be like, what was here?
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I made it? Moment I was like, I haven't made it?
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What are you talking about? And now it's like, well,
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when the whole world called my wife a whore, I
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realized I'm doing Okay, she made.
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Them an a pause it there, I think we get it.
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It's I mean, you get to a point.
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We're feeling bad. I'm actually feeling bad for both of
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these people.
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Now.
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I don't know when she she's she's very young and
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she's very try hard, and what if it's not true?
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What if and even if it was, now I'm kind
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of feeling like.
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Yeah, they air it's I'm I'm generally in the camp.
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I mean, I think, you know, I feel badly for
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what's happened. And to a degree, it's like, okay, a
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cash should have I mean, if you're not famous and
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suddenly fame comes and strikes you, but you're kind of
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your fame is planted in the manosphere. You're not gonna
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go Okay, I'd rather not be famous than get famous
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in the manosphere. So to that degree, it's it's maybe
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not fair one about to say, but he kind of
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by building his fame in kind of this super toxic,
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somewhat misogynist, you know area of the internet.
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Yeah, that's where I definitely don't feel sorry for him
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because fuck that guy with his Andrew Schultz.
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I mean, yeah, but you want me to uh again,
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I'm zigging and zagging and now let me I will
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say one thing that one of the very early things
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that Akash did, this will get your sympathy going again. Akash.
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Very early they had the co hosts of Fresh and Fit,
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which is, you know, flagrant is a broadcast, but they're
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not out there saying the worst things Fresh and Fit.
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Is this just you know, se adjacent It's horrible.
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Yeah, yeah, it was on the it was on the
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Netflix documentary. Yes, it's these two guys who are basically,
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you got to own your woman. She's got to you know,
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you've got to break her down, you've got to break
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her spirit, you've got to put her in her place,
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and she's got to make you a sandwich and give
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you six and then she needs to go sit in
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the corner. And they came on as guests to flagrant
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and to his credit, Akash was not kind of growing
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it out with him. He's like, this is really regrettable,
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and you guys, you know this is not how you
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should be. He was one of the first people to
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actually call out the guy, the actual one of the
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co hosts. I think his name's like Gaines, is like
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Myron Gaines, and he Akash actually put him on, you know,
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he put him on notice that he was being a
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real asshole. And because of that, Myron Gaines now two
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years later, has been waiting in the weeds and he's
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just been making Hay with everything that jazz Lene has
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been saying. So definitely there is area to feel some
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real sympathy for Akash from a couple of different sides.
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It's all very interesting. But how did this wrap up?
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How did this end? I mean, I feel like so
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he's basically taking a break from his podcast.
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He was taking a break from his podcast until last week.
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The story had one more acts to play out, and
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it was probably about the least surprising thing is that
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could possibly happen and Andrew Schultz opened up. I don't
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know whether they're once or twice a week, but either
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the episode last week or one of the episodes last
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week started out with sort of a very serious Andrew
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Schul's announcement and I think we got that.
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Okay, here we go.
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Now we got to address the elephant in the room,
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no pun intended, Okay, as I'm sure you guys wear
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boy our Gosh, she really went through it earlier this year,
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showed amazing resilience and you know, selling out Radio City recently,
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sending records in Toronto, just crushing stand up around the
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globe and literally just like living the dreams that he
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would tell me about at two in the morning when
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we're eating fucking egg sandwiches at the Selka.
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So it's been amazing to see.
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But the experience has put things in perspective for him,
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and he has made the decision to focus all of
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his energy on stand up. He is going to be
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stepping away from the pod. It is bittersweet, you know,
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we wish that he did not want to do that,
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but at the same time, you know, it's very hard
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not to root for your friends, you know, literally living
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his dreams and if he feels that he's got to
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give everything to that, then that's exactly what he's got
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to do. And we're going to rock with them. We
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hope you guys continue to rock with them. Go check
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out the show. We saw the show Radio City.
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It's phenomenal.
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You guys should absolutely check out.
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So, yeah, do you want to make so?
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Yeah? What do you take away is the more I
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mean so akash.
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So he does not want to put up with being
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his wife being insulted, and but she's not stopping what
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she's doing. Correct.
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I believe her podcast is still jugging along. I think,
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I mean, I think she's got about two thousand subscribers,
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so it's not like a not a juggernaut. But but
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he really mean for a while, I think I looked
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it up last week. I think Flagrant was somewhere around
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the thirtieth or thirty fifth biggest podcast in the world.
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Oh wow, he was.
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Yeah, it was a big podcast. And for him to
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just be driven off it, you're just sort of like,
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on one hand, you're like, Okay, well, you know, live
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by the manosphere, died by the manosphere. But he's not.
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You know, I have some sympathy for the guy. I mean,
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he's not an awful guy. I think he got into
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a situation that got away from him. The internet does
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what the internet's going to do, and you know, it's
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just an interesting modern sort of tale of I don't
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know what.
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But what's his stand up?
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Like?
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Do you know? I mean, I mean, I know we
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talked about it at the beginning of the episode, but
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I mean, does he say like shitty things about women?
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Is he? Is?
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He? He's not? I mean, I've never It's hard to tell.
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I went, actually, I went to try to find some
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of his actual you know, some of his material other
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than but a lot of these touring guys are smart.
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They put up you know, It's like Matt Rife. You
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never saw any of his jokes, and then when people
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actually did see his jokes, they were like, oh my god,
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he's a terrible comic. He's much better at crowd work.
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But a lot of these guys they don't put their
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material up. They just put their crowd work up because
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it you know, it keeps it from you and just
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completely played out. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's
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I will say, if you look at some of the
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stuff when he was on MTV. He's got a quick mind.
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He's a quick guy. He's not he's absolutely he's a
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smart guy. I just think that, you know the Internet.
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I don't know whether you know he was trying to
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pool himself or his wife was fooliam or she just
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really did try to create this persona for clicks. But
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it's it's a modern internet bearable.
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Well, thank you so much, John for joining us today,
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for joining me, for being with me and and telling
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us this great story. We did something a little bit different.
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I think it's I think it was good.
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Maybe maybe I can be your Manosphere correspondent.
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I was gonna say, now I'm gonna go pop some
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pussy and you Yeah, I.
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Want I want to I want one of those egg
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sandwiches Andrew Schultz was talking about. Maybe you could make
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it for me.
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All right, bye, everybody, see you later, bay Ye
