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Speaker 1: Ricky Lee and Tim on nova.
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Speaker 2: I always thought peptide was advanced joy.
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Speaker 3: Song, Ah baby, come over here, Gide.
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Speaker 2: All you guys talk about around his pep time a week. Oh you've been banging on about all you girls in there a bit, Jermaine.
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Speaker 3: It's everywhere. We're hearing all about it. We're hearing about it for for for weight loss, for skin care. People are injecting it in their face. Jim Brows are using it for their muscles. I don't know. Is it a Sarah doesn't make your muscles bigger? Does it make your muscles like recover better? I'm hearing it from so many angles. Then I'm hearing that people are injecting peptides into their face.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's ask the first question because we have the president of the Australian Medical Association, doctor Daniel McMullan, on the phone. Good morning, Danny.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: So nice to meet you. I know, hang on a second, I have heard though that you you do you have met Tim? You do know Tim quite intimately.
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Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about patient doctor stuff. Is this a previous life Hello?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, lung time do see together?
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Speaker 2: You used to ask me how the radio is going. Well, this is how it's going. I'd lovely to have you on the show. What is a peptide?
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Speaker 1: Great question. They're basically a little mini protein. So you know, obviously our body is made up of proteins and fasts and a whole lot of other things, and they act either as building blocks for things like collagen, or they can be signaling proteins, so things like insulin that are already in our body that tell message around our body and tell it what to do.
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Speaker 3: So that's so that would be So there's all different types, right, So there's ones like that for there's weight loss, there's skin, there's for muscle. Is that right?
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Speaker 1: Yes? So now what this sort of craze out there is is that there are medications that are peptides. Some of them have been around for ages, like insulin, and then some of them are newer ones like we go vi as them pick. Those are those weight loss medications that have been in the news for years now are also pep guides. And then on social media what we're seeing is all of these unapproved ones. So these are substances that might be in clinical trials or are sometimes just made up in who knows what sort of conditions and sold online purporting to have a bunch of these benefits, but they're not approved for human use, and you really don't know what's in them, And so that's the bunch that we're quite worried about because they're really not built for human.
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Speaker 3: Use, so really shouldn't be obviously shouldn't be using anything that's not approved and not prescribed by a doctor exactly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's you just never know what you're buying online. Some of these have quite wild claims, as you say, bodybuilding, canning, but for example, the one that's sold online and supposed to be good for tanning can or skin cancer, So that makes like why would you try and avoid the sun but actually wind up with the same side effect from this product?
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Speaker 3: Well, I know, I know. My dad's a real gym guy, and he's like feel like a brick. He's huge and he's always been really musty, but you know, a little bit of child. There's a big, big Scottish lad he's been taking this is it retta true rat ritta something and he looks like a body. He looks he's in his late fifties and he looks incredible lost all the job and he's shredded.
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Speaker 1: So some of the you know, relatives of medications that we do have on the market, like the we go use those en picks, those glp ones, and they're playing around with oral vergency, don't have to do injections, and some of these others. Look, there are some early trials that potentially show benefit, and I'd love if they did, but you really don't know what you're injecting and what the side effects us without those clinical trials. You know, some people maybe testing these things out and maybe they're seeing a benefit, but what we don't know is what's the longer term impact. What other harms could they potentially be causing. Are we causing additional cancers, are we impacting your kidney function or other functions? You know, for example, these medicines that are already on the market, we know can cause sudden blindness, can cause significant sort of pancreatitis, and other major conditions. But at least if it's prescribed by a doctor, you've had a discussion about those risks and you weigh up the risk benefit. Whereas when you buy something online a you never know if what's in the vial is actually what you think you're getting, and there's just no safety mechanism in terms of if something's going wrong, No doctor here is going to be able to help you out with it because we don't know what's in that either.
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Speaker 3: So is that not an approved thing?
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Speaker 1: Not an approved medication unless it came from a prescription from a doctor.
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Speaker 2: That silence after you talked about your dad's.
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Speaker 1: You know there are And that's what's really tricky for people online is some of them look reputable. I've looked at these websites. They make it seem like it is a legit thing, although often on the packet it does say not approved for human use a lot of time the injecting instructions, which makes very little sense. But yeah, these are you know, may or may not have ever been in a human trial. These are really just you know, bad actors out there trying to profit from people and risking health along the way.
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Speaker 2: So I feel that doctors have enough to deal with basically, is what we're saying, and to not buy stuff online that you don't know or has been prescribed.
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Speaker 3: But I feel far more informed about what peicides are. I'm very peptide curious.
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Speaker 2: I will say thank you doctor Danny mcmulin. Really appreciate your time this morning.
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Speaker 1: No worries at all, talk to you again.
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Speaker 3: So it's Dr Danny, Doctor Danny your mate.
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Speaker 2: Yes, my old GP. You're allowed to say that? Is that breaching confidence?
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Speaker 3: Well you're saying it's that's all right.
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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, bridging my confidence.
00:06:03
Speaker 3: How how intimately does doctor Ricky Lee and Tim only on Nov.
Speaker 1: Ricky Lee and Tim on nova.
00:00:02
Speaker 2: I always thought peptide was advanced joy.
00:00:04
Speaker 3: Song, Ah baby, come over here, Gide.
00:00:13
Speaker 2: All you guys talk about around his pep time a week. Oh you've been banging on about all you girls in there a bit, Jermaine.
00:00:19
Speaker 3: It's everywhere. We're hearing all about it. We're hearing about it for for for weight loss, for skin care. People are injecting it in their face. Jim Brows are using it for their muscles. I don't know. Is it a Sarah doesn't make your muscles bigger? Does it make your muscles like recover better? I'm hearing it from so many angles. Then I'm hearing that people are injecting peptides into their face.
00:00:39
Speaker 2: Okay, let's ask the first question because we have the president of the Australian Medical Association, doctor Daniel McMullan, on the phone. Good morning, Danny.
00:00:46
Speaker 1: Good morning, thanks for having me.
00:00:48
Speaker 3: So nice to meet you. I know, hang on a second, I have heard though that you you do you have met Tim? You do know Tim quite intimately.
00:01:00
Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about patient doctor stuff. Is this a previous life Hello?
00:01:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, lung time do see together?
00:01:10
Speaker 2: You used to ask me how the radio is going. Well, this is how it's going. I'd lovely to have you on the show. What is a peptide?
00:01:17
Speaker 1: Great question. They're basically a little mini protein. So you know, obviously our body is made up of proteins and fasts and a whole lot of other things, and they act either as building blocks for things like collagen, or they can be signaling proteins, so things like insulin that are already in our body that tell message around our body and tell it what to do.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: So that's so that would be So there's all different types, right, So there's ones like that for there's weight loss, there's skin, there's for muscle. Is that right?
00:01:48
Speaker 1: Yes? So now what this sort of craze out there is is that there are medications that are peptides. Some of them have been around for ages, like insulin, and then some of them are newer ones like we go vi as them pick. Those are those weight loss medications that have been in the news for years now are also pep guides. And then on social media what we're seeing is all of these unapproved ones. So these are substances that might be in clinical trials or are sometimes just made up in who knows what sort of conditions and sold online purporting to have a bunch of these benefits, but they're not approved for human use, and you really don't know what's in them, And so that's the bunch that we're quite worried about because they're really not built for human.
00:02:32
Speaker 3: Use, so really shouldn't be obviously shouldn't be using anything that's not approved and not prescribed by a doctor exactly.
00:02:40
Speaker 1: I mean, there's you just never know what you're buying online. Some of these have quite wild claims, as you say, bodybuilding, canning, but for example, the one that's sold online and supposed to be good for tanning can or skin cancer, So that makes like why would you try and avoid the sun but actually wind up with the same side effect from this product?
00:03:01
Speaker 3: Well, I know, I know. My dad's a real gym guy, and he's like feel like a brick. He's huge and he's always been really musty, but you know, a little bit of child. There's a big, big Scottish lad he's been taking this is it retta true rat ritta something and he looks like a body. He looks he's in his late fifties and he looks incredible lost all the job and he's shredded.
00:03:33
Speaker 1: So some of the you know, relatives of medications that we do have on the market, like the we go use those en picks, those glp ones, and they're playing around with oral vergency, don't have to do injections, and some of these others. Look, there are some early trials that potentially show benefit, and I'd love if they did, but you really don't know what you're injecting and what the side effects us without those clinical trials. You know, some people maybe testing these things out and maybe they're seeing a benefit, but what we don't know is what's the longer term impact. What other harms could they potentially be causing. Are we causing additional cancers, are we impacting your kidney function or other functions? You know, for example, these medicines that are already on the market, we know can cause sudden blindness, can cause significant sort of pancreatitis, and other major conditions. But at least if it's prescribed by a doctor, you've had a discussion about those risks and you weigh up the risk benefit. Whereas when you buy something online a you never know if what's in the vial is actually what you think you're getting, and there's just no safety mechanism in terms of if something's going wrong, No doctor here is going to be able to help you out with it because we don't know what's in that either.
00:04:48
Speaker 3: So is that not an approved thing?
00:04:52
Speaker 1: Not an approved medication unless it came from a prescription from a doctor.
00:04:57
Speaker 2: That silence after you talked about your dad's.
00:05:03
Speaker 1: You know there are And that's what's really tricky for people online is some of them look reputable. I've looked at these websites. They make it seem like it is a legit thing, although often on the packet it does say not approved for human use a lot of time the injecting instructions, which makes very little sense. But yeah, these are you know, may or may not have ever been in a human trial. These are really just you know, bad actors out there trying to profit from people and risking health along the way.
00:05:34
Speaker 2: So I feel that doctors have enough to deal with basically, is what we're saying, and to not buy stuff online that you don't know or has been prescribed.
00:05:42
Speaker 3: But I feel far more informed about what peicides are. I'm very peptide curious.
00:05:47
Speaker 2: I will say thank you doctor Danny mcmulin. Really appreciate your time this morning.
00:05:51
Speaker 1: No worries at all, talk to you again.
00:05:53
Speaker 3: So it's Dr Danny, Doctor Danny your mate.
00:05:56
Speaker 2: Yes, my old GP. You're allowed to say that? Is that breaching confidence?
00:06:00
Speaker 3: Well you're saying it's that's all right.
00:06:01
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, bridging my confidence.
00:06:03
Speaker 3: How how intimately does doctor Ricky Lee and Tim only on Nov.
