Narcissistic Killer Doesn_t Realize She Was Caught On Camera

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On November sixteenth, twenty thirteen, fifteen year old Hailey Smith
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was walking with friends in Saint Augustine, Florida, when she
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was struck by a dark colored truck. The driver fled
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the scene, leaving the teen fighting for her life. Haley
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was rushed to the hospital and underwent emergency surgery, but
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died from her injuries the next day. With little evidence
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to go on, investigators struggled to find the hit and
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run driver, and a case went cold. When detectives appealed
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for new witnesses. In twenty sixteen, they received a flurry
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of tips pointing to a purple pickup truck known to
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have been driven by twenty nine year old Tiffany Higginbotham.
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Detectives quickly discover Higginbotham is already in prison serving a
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three year sentence for another hidden run. In twenty fifteen,
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they have Higginbotham transferred to the Sheriff's office for questioning.
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Hello, Drily, Yes, I've been kind of in and out
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of the investigation with a minute. The other guy that
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was or I would say that I was with, so
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he's tied up on some stuff. He's actually the one
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one to talk to you. But I just agreed to
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come over here and help mount the face with him,
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kind of talk to you for a few minutes if
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you're willing to while he's working on some things. We
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got a bunch of other cases going on and stuff
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like that. So how was your ride over hours? Was
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it at least semi uncomfortable?
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Well, that's rights constantly don a ton of.
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Phone like your little yellow cover.
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This one here highlighter. Yeah, thats exactly like.
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MHM.
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Has anybody talked to you or touchwaights with you since
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you've been over here? Just no, okay, quite well, I
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wasn't with him when he went back to Gatson. Did
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he talked to you over there?
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He saw Miranda Wright snow came over here?
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Okay, all right, Well, before I talked to you, I'd
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like to go over some stuff that we went over
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in Tallahassee kind of refresh my memory. I haven't you know,
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we did an audio records statement over there, but I
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haven't listened to your to your interviews. So I'm trying
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to call some stuff that we talked about and studden
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you listened through an interview. I'd like to talk to
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you just briefly about what we talked about over there,
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and just go over a few things. If you're all
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right with that. He basically be the miranda that he
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we read you that day and then he read before
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you came over here was it last week? Something like that?
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So if you're a kill with that, I'll read that
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same thing to you. Then we talked for a little bit,
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So make sure I spun your name right. I always
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want to add a very day all right in time
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is nine? Yeah. The follower rights in the United States Constitution,
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you do not have to make a statement or say anything.
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Anything you say it can be use against you. You're
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a get the right to talk to the order for
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advice before you make a statement, before any questions are
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asked of you, and to have a lawyer with you
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or any questions we cannot afford to hire. The order
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won't be a point for you before any question if
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you wish. If you do answer questions, you have the
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right to stop answering questions at any time, assault with
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the lawyer for these rights in mind, Are you willing
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to talk to me?
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Yeah?
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How does this place.
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Compare to Gatson Food's actually a little bit better.
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That's better. Here heard action ain't that group.
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I mean.
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It's improved since you've been here last at least that's
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a minor plus.
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More.
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But other than that of suck. Yeah, right, you have
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no educational when.
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I'll be going back to I don't maybe Detective Mentes does.
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Like I said, I'm not completely plugged in into what
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the investigation, what's going on in investigation. But that's so
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some of the questions like that I don't really know
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the answer to. But once he gets freed up and
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he comes over here, you can talk to you and
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explain and explain some more things.
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So okay, so he will be coming over here.
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Yeah, he's gonna come talk to you. I would assume
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a few minutes, twenty minutes, thirty minutes, so I won't
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want to put exact conference, but he'll be over here shortly.
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When we talked over there, when we were talking about
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the truck and all that other stuff around that time,
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and he said, you used his truck, right, that.
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Purple truck, I mean around that time.
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Okay, when you and just make sure that my recollection
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is its correct. You used to take it and be gone.
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You could be gone for several days at a time,
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and stuff like that and mainly your drug of choice
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at that point was cocaine. Okay, it's kind of like
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what you were hooking on at that point. Did you
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were you hurting on anything else? Was it mainly that
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was your.
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Okay?
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I mean pills to you, I guess on engage.
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When you have this truck with anybody else ride with
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you in the truck? Yeah, all the time. Yeah, did
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you ever anybody else use it or anything like that?
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How many? How often do you think you had?
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I mean it all have been doing?
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How much? You know? So it was basically like a
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craft mental type thing.
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I mean not all the time, but yeah.
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Sometimes, and you did I think you said you drive
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other vehicles too, right now.
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My mom's or I ride a bike, red walk or whatever.
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Basically however you can get around. Then do you remember
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during that time frame where y'all were living and all
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that other stuff? I think you said it was off
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that openland and eight I don't I.
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Mean, yeah, twenty thirteen because my baby was small?
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So yeah, which one which is okay? Names that land?
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Who always you now will be four? They got a
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five year old and they keep you busy.
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He's got an older sister though, like she's a good
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big sister. So that's good.
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Nine.
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Yeah, she's with Chris so mm hmmm.
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I've got a girl and a little boy.
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Yeah, she's she's a good tell them, but she'll beat
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up on them too sometimes. I'm sure you you know
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all about that and where they and where they at.
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Now there would my mom with your mom and then uh,
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your boyfriend is Roger, okay, and he's the one that
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owns the truck and everything like that, right right, okay.
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And when we were when we talked over in Tallahassee,
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I mean, we talked about a lot of stuff. But uh,
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in twenty thirteen, do you remember seeing anything about the crash?
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Yeah, the news on the news, okay.
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And in November of we was November twenty thirteen. Do
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you remember how often you had the truck? Do you
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have that that kind of recollection? How often on a
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during the week would you take his vehicle and walk?
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Can't really determine that, I mean, because there was times
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where I'd be gone walking for days or.
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You know, I can't really determine what would make you
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take his truck over walking or riding a bike or
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somebody else. As far pero, you can take it, you
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take it. Did you ever take it without him knowing? Yeah? Okay,
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So basically if it was a if it was available,
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would you take it all the time?
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And sometimes it's easier just to walk down to the
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local trapouts.
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And do what do you remember who all you run
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around with during that time? Was there anybuddy that you
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ran around with, namely any names that stick out to you.
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The shoe?
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Was there a few in particular that you used to
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hook up with quite often? Or it was just get
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it from whoever you could. Did you have someone I'm
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not asking for like a dealer's name, but have like
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was there one or two people in particular that you
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would either hang out with or go get your supply
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from or anything like that? Yeah? Sure? Do you remember
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their names?
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Zach Charles.
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Read?
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Yeah?
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Okay? And you know any of their street names is
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will obviously resist street name, but as far as Charles
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or their names okay? And what about Red you know
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is no idea the the truck you were in some
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accidents in that truck previously? Also, right? Were they in
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all in twenty thirteen, because I think there's I think
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you said you had one in two thousand at least
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one in twenty thirteen and one in fourteen, right that
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hit and run that you were, Yeah, And.
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Then I was in a car accident. I can't exactly
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remember when what it was on Homes Boulevard right there
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by Publics and it was like a Toyota Corolla. And
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then I think at the stop stop stopped like two.
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I had had a car accident where I'd hit Advance
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Auto car or something like that.
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Okay, all right, and that was was that all around
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the same time.
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I know I was out on Bond on the Advance Auto,
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so I know because that would be fourteen.
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And you told us about all those crashes to just
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kind of recap those how that you said that about
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the pull the thing you said you had, and that
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was on Ki Morrison. I think it's Kent Morrison right there.
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You're sixteen that come about that published right right there's
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an f HP station right across the street. And this
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was all in that truck. Correct, You were involved in
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a crash right in that area and you saw the stoplight?
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Is that the one at four mile and Homes right word.
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I can't remember. I remember it was a stop.
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Was it on? And then so that's two in that truck,
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and then there's the third at the home depot. Okay.
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And that was all kind of around the sign same
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time frame, sort of within six months to a year.
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Yeah, I suppose, yeah, okay.
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And I think you had you told us that you
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told obviously you were in Gatson for that reason. You
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were in prison for the hit and run off home
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Depot or in Home Depot, And you had told people
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about that crash. And when you describe that crash, it
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was a your truck versus a pedestrian, correct, And you've
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told people about that, But you always use the work
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term woman or something along those lines, okay, because she
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was in her fifties, I think is what you said.
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Okay.
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And and those descriptions of the home Depot crash, you
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never said girl or little girl or anything like that, correct, Okay,
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because she's in her fifties. You probably said you think
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you said you would say woman and all those What
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about the other crashes? Have you ever told anybody about
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those crashes? I need another minor, But have you told
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anybody about the other crashes? What about over and Gatson?
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Did you ever tell anybody about the other crashes? You
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were involved in Okay, what what about that? One kind
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of sticks out about telling you about that?
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And I got a car accident and that I basically
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you know, telling them and that was it basically okay,
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that was bringing their card?
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Okay, what made that just crashing?
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Just talking in general about crashes?
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Was that? Has that been since we've talked to you?
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Probably not?
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Has that been since the phone call back in November
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this year that you got from Roger or that you
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when you talked to Roger about taking the truck.
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And I can't really determine what I don't think.
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So has it been really relatively recently that you talked
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about those crashes? I don't know. And in regards to
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the phone call or an earlier early November time, he
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placed a call to Roger early November this year and
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he told you about us taking the truck and stuff
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like that. You remember that conversation and you just said that.
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You guys took the chalk and that he was expecting
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back the next day.
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Other than that, and then after how long do you
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think y'all talking about the phone phone call show? Okay,
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you always use your full fifteen if you can.
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Yeah, I mean I talked to the kids in between
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and my mom and stuff. So, I mean, I can't
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tell you, but fifty.
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Minutes and normally you just talk to it cut you off,
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just understanding when you will talk to as long as
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you can.
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That costs each minute.
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So how much does the cost to fifty three dollars
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for a minute. No, I'm about to say something.
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Yeah, that's change there, just like minute.
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Okay, yeah, not as bad as what I thought it
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was gonna be.
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Yeah.
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And during that call, you said he basically just took
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the truck.
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Yeah, y'all, it was expected to be back. He did
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say something like if there was a warrant. There was
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a warrant, but they weren't take it anyway because there
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was a warrant. But he cooperated and let him take it.
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Let you'll take it or something.
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But other than that, when you got off the phone
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with the Roger that that day, you do you even
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recall having any conversations with any inmates or anything like that.
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You know, when you had that conversation with him, how
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did that make him feel?
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I mean I was kind of curious, kind of you know, discouraged.
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You know, what what was going on?
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You're worried upset anything like that. I was just wondering,
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you know, crying after getting off the phone or anything
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like that. But do you remember what you did after
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the phone call? And I think you gave us the
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name of who you played cards.
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With, but you remember, yeah, I mean same people play.
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I was like four people are yeah, yeah, well what
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are their names again?
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Jet Jet, Man Jet however man Jet and then Julie.
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And Jamie Okay.
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And then after that was a pretty much regular day
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in jail at and then you had a conversation I
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don't know if it was the same day or the
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following day with Roger about us returning the truck to him.
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You remember that conversation, I mean, I mean probably mentioned
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something about it, but I don't. Yeah, I'm not really
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Do you.
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Remember if it was that same day or if it
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was the next day or a few days later.
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And next day or day?
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So I don't.
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I don't really remember. Okay to be drug memory, unfortunately,
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because you.
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Remember him having some type of conversation with you about
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us returning the truck correct, And I think he was
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provided don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure
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he's provided a copy of the search one that we
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had even though he cooperated with us.
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I think, yeah, I know that you say that, Yes, okay,
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that's that's how I told him that. That was when
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he told me that you did day had a search
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one going to be Yeah.
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So it must have been after when we returned to
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Trump that he mentioned he.
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You mentioned what.
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What was the name of the search for?
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I don't believe.
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And later that month, actually after he got off the
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phone call with Roger at that time, you remember going
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to talk any any inmates about it? You remember if
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you were crying or upset or anything like that after
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that phone call. You don't remember or you didn't know.
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I didn't, Okay.
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As far as talking to the other inmates, you know
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you you didn't any other inmates or I don't remember.
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And I think it was a few days later that Roger,
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maybe your kids and your mom came to visit Chip
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at Gatson. And during that visit did you all discuss
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the search want at all? Did you all discuss us
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taking the truck at all? Did all discuss the investigation
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that we were conducting? Ye? So during the and this
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was a face to face I mean it's a face
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to face, is it correct? It's kind of like in
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an open area where the families can kind of gather
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and meet kill and stuff like that. And Roger never
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brought up the truck. Did Roger ever bring up the
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truck or anything? He didn't bring up the search warrant. Okay,
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did he ask you if you were involved in the
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crash at all?
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I mean he's asked me that numerous times, and I
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mean he's always asked. He's asked me a few different
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times in y'all truck, He's like, you know, how do
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you did you do it? No, He's like, okay, an
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other than that.
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Okay, So on that day of the meeting face to pacee,
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I'll didn't discuss anything. Okay, how long? How long the
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visits are all?
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While?
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Of six hours? How long were they there that day?
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You remember four or five there for a while, and
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none of that was discussed during that four or five
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hours that did he ever take you outside or anything
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and specifically ask you any questions? He didn't try and
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like separate you from the kids or anything like that.
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So you'll have a private conversation right since that face
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to face meaning, have y'all had any other phone calls
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where y'all talked about the truck situation and investigation or
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anything like that. Have you had any other conversations.
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He told me that you guys were come and talk
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to him. I think yesterday or the day he told
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me some them about.
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Y'all.
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Went back to his mother of his child. Previously I
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knew of the vehicle and asked her some questions.
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I'm not I wasn't a part of that. Did he
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give you any details into that? So I'm not.
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Something about mirrors?
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Okay?
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Other than that now okay. And who's the you said,
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the mother of his child? Who's that?
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Jennifer Olsen? Her dad was an officer here.
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He said, Jennifer Olsen. But that's somebody that we've talked to. Yeah, okay,
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all right. I just wasn't a part of that. So
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that's why, like I said, I'm trying to get caught
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up on something. But as far as you know, that's
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all their conversation was about without mirrors. And yeah, okay,
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do you know if a mirror has ever been fixed
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on that truck in the time that you drove it?
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Did you was it ever missing a mirror? You know,
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did it ever have any damage to the front and
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grille portion of the truck. You know, if that was
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ever replaced, I had anything any damage ever had occurred
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to the windshield that required to get replaced. Have you
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ever had to have that vehicle worked on to replace
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any repair, replace, repair, anything like that? Any portions of
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the front of the truck? And I think we asked
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you about Roger and his ability to fix vehicles and
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stuff like that. Is he handy at that type of stuff?
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I mean, all I've ever seen him do is, you know,
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changed tire and you know it was all changed or whatever.
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You do you know with oil? Other than that, I
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never seen anything. I mean, I know they can build
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a house right.
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Good drywall and stuff like that. So as far as
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you know, he's pretty handy at housework, but he doesn't
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really work on cars. And well, guys, how long ago
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did we bring you over here? Of December? Okay, so
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you've been over here for almost two weeks in the
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time that we talked to you. When did we go
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over there November? Almost a month? Good? Have you had
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any conversations with any other inmates since the time that
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we talked to you over there in Gadson? Have they
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were in that time that you confide to anybody about
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our conversations or our interview with you or anything like that,
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if there were there are any inmates in particular that
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you're close to over there in Gadson inmates.
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Not necessarily the people play cards with a like.
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Okay, anybody that you would confide in or anything like
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that we kind of look up to, certainly. Not, Uh,
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is there anyone other than the people that you played
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cards with, anyone in particular that you hang out with,
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or anything like that that you talked to on a
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ether basis anything.
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I mean, I've seen everybody in my dorm in passing,
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you know, and cordial with everybody but those people.
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Then. But since our conversation over there, you say you
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haven't confided anybody, taught anybody, You haven't told anybody about
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the investigation or anything like that. Have you ever told
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anybody over there about Roger's truck about it possibly in
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the in involved an investigation with this hit and run
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that we're investigating, Shepherd, the one because you specifically mentioned
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that it was Rogers truck. When you describe that crashing
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on ego.
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Not, I mean, I don't know, but I mean, man,
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I guess I know you, Okay, they.
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Ever uh confide to anybody about the color of the
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vehicle or anything like that. And as far as the
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search warrant and stuff like that, when Roger talked to
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you about that, he explain to you what we're gonna
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be looking for, collecting or anything like that.
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I mean, you can go back on the phone records
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and seeing that now, Okay.
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And like you said during your face to face conversation, yell,
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didn't yell, didn't talk about it. And there's no one
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in the facility that you said. Is there anyone in
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the facility that you told about the search warner and
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details about what we were looking for or anything like that? Okay?
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During our I mean you know that one they went
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back over there, they were going to talk to some
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inmates and stuff like that.
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Okay.
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As far as you're not telling any inmates any other information,
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how would several inmates provide information about the truck, what
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we were looking for, and things along those lines.
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I don't know.
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I mean, like I said before, I mean I don't
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remember say you know what I'm saying saying anything like
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that because he's her inmates, But I'm not saying that
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I didn't, But I don't think I did, Okay, Well.
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I mean, I think it's pretty obvious it'd be hard
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for them to get that kind of information without it
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coming from you. In my mind, it's obvious that it'd
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be hard for them to say, hey, the police are looking, well,
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y'all were looking for this and this and this from
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the truck. Well, how do you how do you know
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that you can contipny pay? Well, that makes sense because
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no one else has connections out here as far as
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the investigation. So so you're saying you could have told them,
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you just don't mean.
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I don't confined in people, you know what I'm saying,
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so or talk to people on a regular basis, But
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those three or four people, so I mean, and I.
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Don't remember that, Okay, is there as far as the
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interviews with the other innates, did you ever tell them
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that you were involved in that crash involving the fifteen
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year old girl? Is there any reason why they would
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say that you told them you were involved in that
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crash that killed that little girl.
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Man because they don't want to try you some time
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off their sentence.
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I don't know, Okay, Well, when you're dealing with prison, inmates.
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It'd be a little more difficult for them to get
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have that type of information because y'all don't have access
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to the internet. Correct, y'all have access to pull old
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records from news websites or anything along those lines, right,
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So for them to say that Tiffany was involved in
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a crash three years ago that killed a little girl,
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it'd be difficult for them to get that information on
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their own, correct, Correct, So that information had to come
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from somewhere. And as far as you know, no one
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else in that prison is from Saint Augustine. What about
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what about that you do on with a regular basis?
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I mean the people?
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Yeah, who are those? Those people?
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I mean, not that I do on a regular basis,
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but are from Saint Augustine and definitely know me?
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Who?
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Who?
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Who are those people running Kristin.
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And your block?
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She was at one time. I think she's gone to
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work at least know how long was that?
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I can't tell you.
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I have no idea.
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Who's the last thing you saw Kristin mm hmmm, a
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couple of months ago. You don't know the last name.
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I forgot her last name?
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Anyone else?
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I mean, there's people there I don't know. There's a
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few different people. I just don't remember their names.
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How do you know they're from Saint Augustin.
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Because I I've seen them, you know, on the streets
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out out here.
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In honesty, you know them on a personal level. Some
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not really.
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I mean there's a there's like Kristen. He was having
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to min Blake.
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How long was she in the in the prison?
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Oh, I don't know, a year or so, and she went.
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Where I don't know what. Excuse me? Did you and
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Kristin ever have any problems? Mmm? I think last time
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we talked to you said, really in the prison, you
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don't have any problems with anybody? Right, so either you
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just kind of seeing him in passing or you get
498
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.240
along with him a thing I talked to him, not,
499
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.319
I mean, you never had any problems ad or anything
500
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:37.440
like that with anybody in the prison. So far.
501
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.839
The only name you can think of is you can't remember.
502
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.160
I can't remember.
503
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.640
There's a few people something.
504
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:59.519
Okay, have you heard ever heard anybody else talking about
505
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.559
this cratch inside the prison system? Oh?
506
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:05.079
Not necessarily?
507
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.640
What does not necessarily mean? Okay, So you haven't heard
508
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:22.400
anybody else talking about this this crash? Okay, and this
509
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.200
Kristen you said you last saw her a few months
510
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:26.720
ago and she went to work with lease or something
511
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:35.039
like that. Okay, Was she in your same block when
512
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.680
she went to work the lease? Mm hmm? There's anybody
513
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.799
else in your block that was from Saint Augustine because
514
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:43.519
you can think her.
515
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:46.480
Mm hmm.
516
00:30:48.079 --> 00:31:01.519
Noah. The as far as our our their interviewsually with
517
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:07.480
with the inmates, if they, I think there was at
518
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.720
least two or three that said that you personally confided
519
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.640
about information about the crash. And you're saying you never
520
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.920
confided in anybody in the in jail or anybody else
521
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.440
for that matter, inside or outside of the jail being
522
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.319
involved in the crash.
523
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.599
And as far as.
524
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:31.920
Before you went to prison or since, you've never confided
525
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:38.720
to anybody being involved in the crash. And the crash
526
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.799
were discussing, I know we talked about it back, you know,
527
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.160
last month, but what what do you recall about us
528
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.039
talking about it originally? As far as the actual crash itself.
529
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:52.079
They y'all.
530
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:54.640
That day was.
531
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:03.000
A child that was a deestrian and it was ahead
532
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:08.240
and run that they that the child passed away.
533
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.319
Okay, and that's from our conversation that we had over
534
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.319
and gets and correct you Okay, do you know any
535
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.039
other details about the crash over than what we talked
536
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.960
about that day? Do you have any and you said
537
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.200
you I think you said it over there and here
538
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.480
that you've seen something about her on the news or
539
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.240
something on those lines they call any information from the
540
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.160
news about what what you saw on the news about
541
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.839
any details about the girl or you know her, how
542
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.119
she was at the time she was hit, or anything
543
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:53.079
like that. I guess there was. Is there an inmate
544
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:59.599
named Virginia over there there something like that? Virginia?
545
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:00.400
Yeah?
546
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:01.359
I think so?
547
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:01.759
Yeah?
548
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:03.400
Okay? Was she and her block?
549
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:04.119
Correct?
550
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.480
Were you friends with her? Okay? Did you play cards
551
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.519
with her? Was she one the ones that you played? Okay?
552
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.279
Was she one that you would play with on a
553
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.039
regular basis?
554
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:18.359
You know, she would fill in?
555
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.039
Okay? What do you mean fill in?
556
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.599
Like if there was somebody not want to play.
557
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.000
How do you think you'll played the other?
558
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:33.079
I don't know, maybe, okay, I mean what we played
559
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.200
every day. I mean, not her but me and my friend.
560
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.039
Okay. Is Virginia someone that you would ever talk to
561
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.839
or can fight in or anything like that? How only yelled,
562
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.160
been in the prison system.
563
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.759
I don't know. I was, I don't know.
564
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:51.359
She's been in that block for a while.
565
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:58.640
Okay, would you say you've been together for a year
566
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:03.839
or more a couple of months, it's six months? How
567
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.400
long you've been in there too? Then they're gone, Yeah.
568
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.239
I mean, there you go. I don't know. I'm gonna
569
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:09.960
say six months.
570
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:17.000
This classification kind of helps d right, but you think
571
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.880
you've been in the same block for early six months?
572
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.039
In that time, have y'all ever, you know, talk to
573
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.920
each other kind of build up any type of relationship.
574
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:33.440
We have a friendship in cars me. Did y'all ever
575
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:35.679
talk about each other's families or anything like that?
576
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.000
She talked about our kids and how she had d
577
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:41.400
CF and stuff like that.
578
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.039
What is she for?
579
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.519
I don't remember, is it?
580
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:48.800
You know, you don't know if the struggle later or anything,
581
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:54.960
I don't remember. Okay, And you're talking with Virginia. Have
582
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.159
your talk to her about what you're in for?
583
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.960
I mean, yeah, the hit and run at home depot,
584
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.320
the robberies, yeah.
585
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.559
Okay, And you remember describing the hit and run to
586
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.679
her and the robbery and stuff like that, And as
587
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.320
far as the hit and run at home depot. Did
588
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.679
you tell her was that at home depot and involved
589
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:17.599
an old lady?
590
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.519
I'm sure I already found the home depot.
591
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.199
So if she were to tell us that you also
592
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.719
confided in her about the crash that you were involved
593
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:33.000
in on a on a dark roadway, it wouldn't have
594
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.159
been home depot, especially if we differentiated, well, she was
595
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.679
involved in her hit and run at home depot, she'd
596
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.320
be able to tell the difference between a home depot
597
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:43.119
and a dark roadway.
598
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.920
I mean I suppose, yeah.
599
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.639
I would think have you ever confided in Virginia about
600
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.800
being involved in the crash that killed people? Yeah? At
601
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.800
any point? Have you ever provided her any information about
602
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:06.760
the truck being ce by as law enforcement? And you
603
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.880
said you haven't provided anybody details about the what was
604
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.159
in the search one because you said Roger didn't provide
605
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:12.800
those details?
606
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:13.280
Correct?
607
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.280
Is there? Can you think of a reason Virginia would
608
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.239
say you were involved in that crash that killed Haley?
609
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:25.760
Yeah?
610
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.559
Do you and Virginia have any problems? I mean it
611
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.199
sounds like you were kind of friendly, play cards together, helping.
612
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.280
She would talk about her family and stuff like that too.
613
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.760
I guess you washed my bothes other than that, okay.
614
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.039
So obviously you don't have any b or anything like
615
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.639
that with it, okay. And again I wasn't there for
616
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.760
the interview with her, so I got fits and pieces.
617
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:01.400
But is there can you think of any reason at
618
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.840
all that she would say that you told you can
619
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.800
fight it in her about the crash or about you know,
620
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:13.440
the vehicle being taken or anything like that. What about
621
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.360
any other inmates in there? You have any idea why
622
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.880
they would also say that you can fight it in
623
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.400
them about being involved in the crash that you'll haven
624
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.480
I mean as far as the details that Virginia and
625
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:33.760
I believe a few other inmates provided, there are details
626
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:39.440
about the crash that no one else would know unless
627
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:46.760
it came, quite honestly, from your mouth. The crash, and
628
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.400
like we've discussed, there's no way for them to research
629
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.639
that online. There's no way for them to get that
630
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.320
information from outside. There's no way for them to look
631
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.679
on any news websites or pull any old news oral
632
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.360
articles correct, So for them to obtain that kind of information,
633
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:07.960
and the point specifically to you, I think, in my mind,
634
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.880
that's kind of a damning it to sit here and
635
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.199
say that you didn't tell them kind of makes you
636
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.480
look bad. So that's why you know, I'm asking these
637
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.960
questions for a specific reason as far as you know,
638
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:26.199
because you can fight in Virginia about the crash, and
639
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.000
then you're you're telling me, no, I mean it doesn't
640
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.199
I mean it doesn't look very well. It is all
641
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.440
I'm saying. They got this information specific and in my opinion,
642
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.480
the only way that they got this specific information is
643
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:48.199
from you. Can you think of okay, So basically you're saying,
644
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.360
and correct me if I'm wrong, that all these details
645
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.000
that have been provided us to buy inmates, specific details
646
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.920
about the crash, including the fact that you struck in
647
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.760
killed her, left the scene, and found out a few
648
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.159
days later that she died. All that information you never said.
649
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:11.880
You never confided in anybody within that prison system that
650
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.039
you any of that information that I've just said. You've
651
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.000
never confided into anybody outside of that prison system, that
652
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:26.639
information that I've just said, Okay, can you think of
653
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.199
anyone else in that prison system that you were close with,
654
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.719
because I think there's a few other inmates that you're
655
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.360
close with and you're purposely weaving out their names. Can
656
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:41.280
you think of any other prison prisoners within that within Gatson,
657
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:43.880
that you were close with, that you may have had
658
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.719
close personal conversations with, other than the people that you
659
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.239
played hard with, or than Virginia, because that was one
660
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.159
of the names you brought up, I.
661
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.880
Thought, I mean, because she's not someone to play card.
662
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.679
Any other names that you can think that you would.
663
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.800
I mean, I want you to think hard because I
664
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:05.440
don't want you to leave out any other names, because
665
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:06.840
I think there's a few names that you're missing that
666
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:14.199
I think you might be missing them on purpose. Okay,
667
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.440
all right, Well, like I said, the detective minutes who's
668
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.760
actually working the case. You know, I'm just trying to
669
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.719
fill in here and there. Let me go see if
670
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:28.840
he's able to come and talk to you, so we don't,
671
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.920
you know, to throw it out. I'm sure you don't
672
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:32.679
mind being out.
673
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.239
Of out of jail for.
674
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.840
Yah. Can I get you anything while we wait for him?
675
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.960
Need to water or anything to snack on? Anything like that?
676
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:43.760
Sure?
677
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:48.119
Okay? Can we gotta I can see.
678
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:48.599
If I have some cash.
679
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.920
You might have a snack machine outside, unless you you're
680
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.320
all right, Okay, give me a few minutes. Let me
681
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:54.920
see where he's.
682
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.280
At Actually do you have like mountain out there?
683
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:03.519
We might have diet mountain dew and like coke like
684
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:04.480
that the machine.
685
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:06.119
Okay, thank you.
686
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:17.599
H oh.
687
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.519
Mm hmm.
688
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:32.559
Yeah, oh.
689
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:34.760
M hm.
690
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:39.599
Hey there.
691
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:43.639
You didn't forget?
692
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.239
How can you forget? Why is that that I make
693
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.400
about impression on you? Good ones?
694
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:54.480
Impression?
695
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.679
Well, I believe that that that Brenton has already been
696
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.880
talking to you here a little bit, and uh, I'm
697
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:09.719
just here to.
698
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.920
Confirm some of the information that you've provided to him
699
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.800
and to host during the initial interview.
700
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.599
And uh, I know you probably have some questions.
701
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:28.679
I know when I'm going back to prison.
702
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:35.039
Okay, so we will talk about that here in a minute.
703
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:49.840
And you have two children right to correct when you're
704
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.199
not married or anything like that.
705
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:58.800
You are to Brant Brent's Bennett p R.
706
00:42:59.000 --> 00:42:59.800
And T. L. E. Y.
707
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:03.000
Can you teach.
708
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.000
Well last time that we were talking, you know, we're
709
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.760
talking about this hitting and run traffic crash with a
710
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.599
fatal fatal.
711
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.199
Hit a run traffic crash with your name have come
712
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.239
open the investigation and all that.
713
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.159
As far as as the crash, you said that you
714
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.559
had nothing to do. And I'm telling you if you
715
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.400
have anything to deal with it. You should let me
716
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:47.440
know now because we're just continding to investigate this incident. Okay, okay,
717
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:54.360
So basically, there is some information that litt us up
718
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.440
to you. Do you remember what I said is specifically
719
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.960
about what littles to you in specific?
720
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.760
Just someone led you to me?
721
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:03.719
Yeah?
722
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.159
Did I did? I tell you a specific name? As
723
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.119
far as who was it? Mkam?
724
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.559
If there was anybody that would say that you've done
725
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.079
this for any type of reason, who do you think
726
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.920
that person would be? You have no idea what bring
727
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:28.719
your name up in this, kam? How you don't do
728
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:34.679
anybody in reference to some someone may be giving us
729
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:39.880
information as far as information that led us are accusing
730
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.599
you of telling them that you were involved into this.
731
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:48.719
Mm hmm. What do you think the the person who
732
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.559
hit this girl and left the scene, what do you
733
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:59.840
think it should happen to them? I guess the shoot
734
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:11.840
that m hm. And you know, just who were you
735
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.559
stoping to Roger? I was just stoping to Roger at
736
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:20.840
the store? Okay over there? Okay, what specific information did
737
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.880
he give you when he sees that truck in the
738
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.000
ninth any.
739
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.039
Specific He just said that y'all had that you're giving
740
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:33.119
y'all the truck and that he had that you guys
741
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.840
have provided him with the search warrant. They y'all want
742
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:36.880
to take the truck anyway?
743
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.440
Okay, what did he tell you that we took from
744
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.679
the truck as far as he didn't tell you what
745
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:43.039
we do.
746
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:44.679
From the trusty?
747
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.000
Okay, did you have a conversation with him over there
748
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:50.599
when he went through this year?
749
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.519
H h No, I can recall.
750
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.679
Okay, not that you can recall or not. No, you
751
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:10.039
didn't have a conversation world. Okay, Now, who do you
752
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:16.199
relate yourself with over there at the prison? Who do
753
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:18.719
you tell people? Do you hang out with? Is anybody
754
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:20.519
just a few minutes ago?
755
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:20.800
Two?
756
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:21.400
Okay?
757
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:22.440
And who?
758
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.000
I haven't choked with him? As far as everything.
759
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:33.239
With jet Jamie Julie, Okay.
760
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.159
You don't talk to anybody else over there, As far
761
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.440
as I mean, he had mentioned something about Ronie Virginia
762
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:42.519
that I had.
763
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.800
You know, she plays cards with you know, she cleaned
764
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.000
my clothes back.
765
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:54.039
I mean, other than that, is there any reason why
766
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.159
anybody at the person will say that you're.
767
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.400
Both in this crash?
768
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.559
Have no idea that the tacket time off to Simons.
769
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:13.800
Okay, do you know about what Hayley's age was when
770
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:19.559
she was here? M? H yeah, do you know that?
771
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:21.480
I mean that's what he said.
772
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.679
How have you when back in when this happened?
773
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.320
I know you were having you were going through a
774
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.920
rough period in your life, and you were using crack
775
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.679
cocaine and all that, and then you'll be up for
776
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.679
days and disappear and all this.
777
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.119
When did you first find out that this incident of
778
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:41.079
coorder over there with it?
779
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.480
When she has the news?
780
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:45.400
Okay?
781
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.320
Approximately how long after the crash record this?
782
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.920
I don't know when the crash curd so I just
783
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:54.000
remember the news.
784
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:02.760
M Do you remember talking to anybody older than those
785
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:09.519
girls that you play cards with at the jail over there? Okay?
786
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.440
Now you know you wouldn't be here right now if
787
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.480
we didn't have a specific information, right.
788
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.960
How does it make you feel the fact that you're
789
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.079
here and you'll be an interviewed for this if you
790
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:25.000
had nothing to do with it.
791
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.599
I'm being angry, kay.
792
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.920
How does it make you feel that somebody how does
793
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.159
it make you feel that somebody's bringing your name open
794
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:38.719
to this thing?
795
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:40.199
Can angry?
796
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:49.079
Okay? What makes you we call the specific times that
797
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:55.480
seeing the crashing, the news and all that, well, specifically,
798
00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:02.840
it's bringing those memories back by Okay, do you remember
799
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.159
when exactly and where you were when you've seen that.
800
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:07.480
At home?
801
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:08.039
And where is that?
802
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:10.360
Okay?
803
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:17.480
And that's where has your mother leaved there pretty much
804
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.639
forever child?
805
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:28.239
So yeah, is there any reason why you will deny
806
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.440
having that conversation with Roger over your gas.
807
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:33.880
Mh.
808
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.000
Is there any reason why Roger will say that you
809
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.000
have that conversation?
810
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:39.519
What the told you about this?
811
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:49.320
This is the problem that I'm having. You know, I
812
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.400
told you went back that I was going to go
813
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.679
back to the prison of doping people that you hung
814
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.280
out with right when we first met. Okay, and then
815
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.239
I will talk the them. What do you think those
816
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:02.800
people say?
817
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:05.239
Mm?
818
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.679
Why won't they provide me some specific details about this
819
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.800
incident where they're not even from here, they don't have
820
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:25.079
access to the internet or anything like that, because this
821
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.840
is the problem. Differently, you sit here and you continue
822
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.719
to deny and deny and deny and deny and deny
823
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:43.000
specific information, that specific information about this specific incident. Kay,
824
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.559
you're not talking to people intentionally that you're spoken with
825
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:55.079
over the the deal that you relate yourself with. You know,
826
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.559
they have cameras over they're out to jail, right, yeah, okay,
827
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.440
So the fact they would tell them here that you
828
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.000
don't talk to anybody else.
829
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.280
Older than those three girls and four including that one
830
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:12.159
fourth girl that you play car cars with. You know
831
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.880
I can verify that in the camera, right.
832
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:15.960
Sure.
833
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.920
I mean I talked to a lot of people, but
834
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:30.320
I don't not on an everyday basis. Okay, I mean
835
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:33.079
you put seventy one people in the same dorm for
836
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:35.800
however long, I'm sure you don't talk to people.
837
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:42.239
Okay, I understand that. Who's Joan?
838
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:43.880
Who's John?
839
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:48.840
Yeah, one of my best friends. How long have you
840
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:49.360
known jo.
841
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.400
I don't know. I don't know.
842
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:56.639
Tonys don't care?
843
00:51:59.119 --> 00:51:59.320
Yeh?
844
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:12.480
Sensor early choices, do you? And how do you become
845
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:20.480
appointed with his son? His son joey mm hmm okay,
846
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:23.920
toys Juliet.
847
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.039
Right now, last time I knew he was in prison,
848
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:33.679
but yeah, this is dad said he was out exactly where.
849
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:49.920
Okay, Okay, Now this inmates that leave over there and
850
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:55.280
this is singing worth you that are not from this area, Well,
851
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.760
when you breeve, they will provide any specific information about it.
852
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.440
Sence them wher he that most likely information came from you.
853
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.679
I mean I suppose, he said, if you suppose to you,
854
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:09.039
do you agree with me?
855
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:09.800
I suppose?
856
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:11.159
Okay.
857
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.199
So, because if they're not from here, and they don't
858
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.599
know that this crash occurred here, if you didn't tell them,
859
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:26.119
how they know this information you agree probably most likely
860
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:27.000
came from you, right?
861
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.800
I mean I told you before that I didn't remember
862
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.800
talking to anybody. There's also you know, I could have,
863
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:36.960
but I don't remember.
864
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.119
Yeah, I mean when I talked to somebody. I have
865
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.000
friends that I talk to every day, and we talked
866
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.840
about a lot of crap. If there is anything specific
867
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.719
that can hurt me that I probably said to them.
868
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.760
If I were to commit a crime of some kind,
869
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:55.519
I will remember that in specific.
870
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.119
Maybe I didn't commit the crime, So why would I
871
00:53:59.159 --> 00:53:59.719
tell them that I did?
872
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:20.800
You know Virginia Jennings, right, I just mentioned her. Okay,
873
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:26.880
Well we've went over there and we told the Virginia
874
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:32.400
that same thing that you've got transported over here. Okay,
875
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:39.199
And Virginia told us what you've told her, specific information
876
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:44.679
about the crash itself, about you being up for a
877
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.000
couple of days. How about you driving Roger's truck.
878
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:49.039
How about you.
879
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:55.760
Hitting Haley and leaving the scene specific information that Virginia
880
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:57.239
would not have unless you came.
881
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:57.840
From your mom.
882
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:07.480
Okay, Okay, I can let you listen to that interview also,
883
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.280
So I'm not making this up, Tiffany.
884
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:11.599
I'm not saying that you are.
885
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:18.679
But that's the problem. You have confided to Virginia over
886
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:21.239
there and told her what you did, and you're sitting
887
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:22.480
here and continue.
888
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:32.440
To deny everything. I mean, there is a time when
889
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.039
you have to take responsibility for our actions, Okay, And
890
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:40.119
I know that Basically, when Virginia told me that Virginia
891
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:43.039
someone she just got kids, Okay, she knows that you
892
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.599
have kids. She didn't want to talk to me because
893
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.480
she was worried about your kids. But then she knew
894
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.440
that Roger is taking care of her kids.
895
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:56.880
Okay. I know this is probably difficult for you. It's
896
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.119
not every day and that you're out there driving around.
897
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:07.079
Maybe you were high, okay, and maybe this girl was
898
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.760
too close to the road and you tagged her and
899
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.480
you didn't think it was nothing major, but it happened. Okay,
900
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:20.079
But at some point in time we have to take
901
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:24.760
responsibility for our actions. You know, you have this murder
902
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:26.840
here that every year it's just calling us, is there
903
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:31.440
anything new? Is there anything new? Since twenty thirteen, she's
904
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:36.239
been asking and asking and asking. She just even mentioned
905
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:41.960
your name herself, that we should look into you because
906
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.920
everybody knew what you were doing back in the day.
907
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.599
I'm not trying to make an excuse for you, but
908
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.960
things happen. You see things happen.
909
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:01.800
They do every day.
910
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:08.960
Okay, I know things, and they're hard sometimes, especially that
911
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.079
you're over here. You're facing more time for this crime that.
912
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:18.440
Do you know?
913
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:23.960
Hey me prior to this, you see a lot of
914
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:25.239
times with one investigating.
915
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.440
This is why these cases are difficult because most of
916
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:34.079
the times, if I'm investigating a homicide, I know that
917
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.280
a lot of times it's most of the homicides. So
918
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.559
you've probably seen this on TV. It's somebody that know
919
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:42.239
the person.
920
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:43.360
You know.
921
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.840
But when you're talking about a traffic isident of this nature.
922
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.800
Most of the times that people are not related, they
923
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:55.280
haven't even cross paths before. Okay, that's where they're difficult
924
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:04.800
to solve. Okay, So the fact is you have an
925
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:10.880
opportunity here to give me your side of the story, Okay,
926
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:15.320
of what happened. You've already told Virginia the story. Okay,
927
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:21.400
we already know that story that you told Virginia because
928
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.679
she came from her mouth. I mean, I have a
929
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.960
recording there, a very detailed recording of what you said.
930
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:29.199
And yet, so you know, Virginia, he didn't just sold
931
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.800
you out like that. Virginia, she wasn't looking for anything.
932
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.840
She didn't ask for anything, and every turn. The only
933
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.079
thing that it bothered her as soon as she walked
934
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.119
into the room that I pulled her in there, she
935
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:45.000
knew what it was about. I didn't have to tell
936
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:59.960
her anything. But she has kids that there's no reason
937
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.480
so when Virginia would make something up like that because
938
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.559
she didn't ask for anything. She's not trying to get
939
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.920
a reduced sentence because she's going to be out here
940
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:14.440
in a month or so, so there's really no.
941
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:24.599
Incentive for her to give with that type of information. Okay,
942
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.880
So tell me what happened.
943
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.760
I don't know what happened.
944
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.360
You don't remember what happened.
945
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.360
I don't know it wasn't mean, so I don't know
946
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:43.880
what happened.
947
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.880
Well, you can continue to deny and deny and deny it.
948
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:55.360
But at the end of the day, I don't think
949
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.559
you're probably the kind of person that's just going and
950
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:01.039
seeking here across from me, and this happened to me before.
951
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.840
I've been working in law enforcement for ten years. There's
952
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.360
normally three types of people. Those people that meet to
953
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:13.199
an extent what they've done. Those people that sit here
954
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.599
and just continue to deny. You can actually show them
955
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.760
on video of them going in there killing this person,
956
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:24.800
and they will never be oh, I on'y meet, but
957
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.519
they're on the video doing it. And then there are
958
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.599
those people that sit here and say, yeah, I made
959
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:35.679
a mistake. I made a mistake when I left that
960
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.760
scene and did not know that this girl was gonna die.
961
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:52.280
Maybe you could have helped and she'll be alive today. Well,
962
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.840
I remember when we sat down over a gas that
963
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.480
one time you said something along the lines of for
964
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:04.159
every other crash that you mentioned, you stopped mm hmm
965
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.840
m saying, and you say that you were not high,
966
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.360
That you were not they didn't have drugs in the viehull.
967
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.880
I might I might be inaccurate, and what I'm saying
968
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.960
they didn't that you were high, that you didn't have drugs.
969
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.519
In the view, I think that's the difference between hades
970
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:27.320
hit and run and that and those other crashes.
971
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:33.199
Okay, because you have admitted to people specific information that
972
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:38.079
we have verified, we're ready be a statement from people
973
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.039
that you have enough for a couple of days that
974
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:43.599
you were high and that you hit her.
975
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:48.679
And now there were older people there with her when
976
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:54.039
it happened, and even about it had seeing a phone
977
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:59.679
that somebody called that one one, and then that kind
978
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.800
of makes you feel kind of better that somebody was
979
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:10.039
there to help. We're not playing games here, Tiffeny.
980
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:15.559
I'm not saying anymore, but you you agree with.
981
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.840
Me, Nygy that if these people provide us this information,
982
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:20.760
you can only come from you because they didn't have
983
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:27.159
any duc I suppose you suppose, okay, Well, to me,
984
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:33.639
that's an agreement, because suppose suppose they don't have Do
985
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:38.559
you have access to the internet against Okay, you have
986
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:42.920
access to other people if you call them, right, you
987
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:48.559
can call somebody from there and seek information. Right, you
988
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:54.639
can call Roger, right, but those people don't have those
989
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.039
phone calls. Hey, how are they going to say it
990
01:02:58.159 --> 01:02:59.440
was it a he didn't run and say no it
991
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:07.440
was team and this little girl was killed, and the
992
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:13.360
person that's in here has to unface to it. Can
993
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.320
you find out if this is true or not?
994
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.480
I don't know what.
995
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.559
I know what they're capable of doing because I researched it.
996
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.119
That's one of the things. One of the first things
997
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:34.320
that we did is check phone calls. You know those
998
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:39.159
phone calls are recorded, right then there is no phone
999
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:45.639
call from somebody asking for specific details that you provided
1000
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.440
to them. I didn't hear the phone call somebody specifically
1001
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:54.880
asking that were two other people with her, or there
1002
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.039
was one person with her, or had been up for
1003
01:03:58.159 --> 01:03:59.039
two days.
1004
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:01.519
When it happened.
1005
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:06.119
I used, don't understand why if he already told some people,
1006
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:10.760
and you're having such a hard time trying to sit
1007
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:13.000
here and tell me what happened. All I'm looking is
1008
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.320
for the truth when I can go tell her mother, Look,
1009
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:20.320
Tiff and he made a mistake and she was high.
1010
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:28.559
Haley was too close and it happened, and she lived
1011
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:29.840
the scene because she was scared.
1012
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:33.960
I can't tell you that.
1013
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:41.360
What was mean? Why would you tell somebody that it
1014
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:41.719
was you.
1015
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:43.679
I wouldn't tell anybody it was me.
1016
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.760
Why won't these people provide me this is specific information
1017
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:48.280
about you.
1018
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:55.440
Then it all started when we seize that truck, and
1019
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.920
you know what, Rogers so pierced right now.
1020
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.079
You know why, because we're going to get the truck
1021
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:02.599
from him. He's not going to be able to go
1022
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:06.199
to work. He's not going to be able to take
1023
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:06.840
care of the kids.
1024
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:10.400
He doesn't take care of the case.
1025
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:10.960
My mom does.
1026
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:11.599
He does.
1027
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.559
But how do you think Roger will steel right now
1028
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:16.719
if I were to tell him that.
1029
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:20.039
I'm probably not. I mean, he does take care of kids,
1030
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:21.920
but I mean my mom takes care of him.
1031
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.239
I think you probably don't care about him for a bit.
1032
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.679
The only that he's done for you to take care
1033
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.559
of m kids, well you didn't in prison.
1034
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:36.000
Provide for them. How long with your mother? You don't
1035
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:42.280
really care about that one bit? Do you just say
1036
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.840
to yourself taking care of him? I didn't say that.
1037
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.280
I said my mom also takes care.
1038
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:52.119
Of him, like you say Roger does, and my mother.
1039
01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.719
Does well, I mean financially, my mom does.
1040
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:13.599
Okay, if you didn't do this differently, I have some
1041
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:21.000
memordience that I have to test. Will you be willing
1042
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:22.400
to give me a DNA something?
1043
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.639
Sure, we'll have it, don't follow anyway.
1044
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:36.519
But yeah, okay, yeah? Do you remember in the transport
1045
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:41.280
from gassing? Mm hmmm, do you talk to anybody?
1046
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.840
I talk to her, but I knew she was informant.
1047
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.760
Okay, how do you know she was an orange.
1048
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.280
Black shoes story?
1049
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:55.119
That of kay?
1050
01:06:59.320 --> 01:06:59.679
Correct?
1051
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:01.360
I don't know that.
1052
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:07.840
Yeah, and she didn't get booked in with me? Yeah?
1053
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:08.280
I mean.
1054
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:21.960
What?
1055
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:24.079
Will Virginia pulled me over there and lied to me
1056
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:29.320
and said, you justified that you told her specifically that
1057
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.719
you hit this girl and that Roger healthy fix the truck.
1058
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:35.199
Roger is not happy that he broke his name up
1059
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:35.880
into his crack.
1060
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:44.679
I don't know, and I wouldn't bring Roger nor.
1061
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:45.400
Myself into it.
1062
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:51.239
You did, Tiffany, you did? No, I didn't. So you're
1063
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.599
telling me here that you never told the Virginia about
1064
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:58.840
what happened. Why will Reginia gave me this specific details
1065
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.920
about what you said to her? How how did she
1066
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:07.039
learn the details if you didn't tell her? But she
1067
01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:08.880
had no prior knowledge about the crash.
1068
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:11.719
I have no idea.
1069
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.920
There's people from Sant Augustine in prison.
1070
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:25.800
Yes, but they wouldn't talk about that, isn't it? Why
1071
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.439
would they everything started happening. When we see the Rogers Trump,
1072
01:08:33.760 --> 01:09:00.560
we have the other three girls who tidnts tidvotsk h. Heather, Jamie,
1073
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:09.239
I've talked to you over there after the Pune call
1074
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.880
from from the ninth when we took Roger Struck.
1075
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:15.439
I had no idea that.
1076
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.920
What was going on, but that Fune call triggered something
1077
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:26.199
in you and brought some memories back, and you were
1078
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:32.399
crying over there and you just had to kill somebody,
1079
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.079
and that somebody was Virginia. Over the period of a
1080
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:39.119
couple of days, you told her everything that happened, that
1081
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:40.680
you was afraid, that you didn't want to do the
1082
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.720
time because you were trying to recover that you were
1083
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.319
to do out in jail and you didn't want to
1084
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.880
go back and you didn't want to do that time
1085
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:50.239
fifteen years.
1086
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:00.560
Years.
1087
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:04.520
That's what you think you're gonna get for that? Oh
1088
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:13.159
you know, tell me why?
1089
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.600
Why why are you denied sitting here, sitting here and
1090
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.239
cross from me, denying talking about.
1091
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.720
Because I didn't say that you did gonna say that?
1092
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:35.039
Kamah mh.
1093
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:45.920
That's sad, that's pretty sad.
1094
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:54.119
M.
1095
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:56.640
That's sad.
1096
01:10:58.279 --> 01:10:58.319
M.
1097
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:14.439
What are you staring at her.
1098
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:21.079
For I'm just thinking how you can sit here and
1099
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:24.760
just deny everything that we can verify that we know
1100
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:26.000
that happened.
1101
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:27.960
Because I didn't do it.
1102
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.199
So you never talked to Virginia. You needn't even mention
1103
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.359
Virginia in our first team view, did you know?
1104
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:40.920
Because it's somewhere I played cards with that. I I mean,
1105
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.760
she fills in you know.
1106
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:50.479
I don't know you feel sad. But then again, you
1107
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:52.920
told her every day. You know that there are skymmers
1108
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:53.319
over there.
1109
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.000
It's not something that I just thought about. I mean,
1110
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:04.520
you know, I don't know. I just didn't think about her.
1111
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:36.800
So mm hmmmahka, give it.
1112
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:42.720
I'm not I'm gonna bring that. Uh so you can
1113
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.079
hear in Virginia telling me that, because I don't think
1114
01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:48.279
it's the same thing yet, I think you think I'm
1115
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:48.680
making it.
1116
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:49.199
Shut up.
1117
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:51.159
I don't think you're making up.
1118
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.720
No speak boy crazy.
1119
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:08.159
Oh h h h.
1120
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:24.000
H im that Yeah, you give me a minute.
1121
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:34.880
Mha.
1122
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:40.079
That's a upsept for the uh the na that I'll
1123
01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:41.560
ask you that you say that you will give me.
1124
01:13:46.520 --> 01:14:00.319
I don't think that in a minute there than.
1125
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:04.079
I said, I don't really even care about listening to
1126
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:18.840
this let's go comm So basically.
1127
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.399
What you're telling me is that you never had a
1128
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.239
conversation with Virginia.
1129
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:59.880
What m hm.
1130
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:04.600
Let me ask you a question.
1131
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:05.479
Why would you.
1132
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:10.439
You read goals out on the.
1133
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.720
On the image that was being transported with you? Why
1134
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.840
would you bring who's Marcus aus and why would you
1135
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:18.760
bring his name up?
1136
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:23.000
Who's Marcus Kine? I don't know who he is.
1137
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:25.640
You don't know who he is.
1138
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:34.800
What would you bring his name of Marcus? H?
1139
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:36.840
I don't know.
1140
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:39.960
I know what marcus, but I don't know what his
1141
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:40.640
last name is.
1142
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:44.840
Who doesn't Marcus look like when he's black?
1143
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:48.159
He's a drug dealer?
1144
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:49.359
Deal?
1145
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.600
Do you use the buy drugs from the best?
1146
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:58.000
I mean, I don't know if that's same one by Marcus?
1147
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:58.640
I mean.
1148
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.720
Where this mark is that we're talking lives?
1149
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.319
Where do you go with the four four miles and
1150
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:17.199
where Clay Street play Street? Mm hmm, four miles he's
1151
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:18.359
got going square.
1152
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:28.279
Mhm.
1153
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:36.800
So he lives on Clay Street. You said lay Streets
1154
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:40.079
play Street in relation to four miles? That ebody four miles.
1155
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:48.000
Yeah, four miles. Yeah, you're here about.
1156
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:52.880
The Marcus Marcus.
1157
01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:59.920
You don't know his last name, though you say he's black.
1158
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:08.399
He's a drug dealer? Have plick straight in the past,
1159
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:13.039
do you uh? Do you talk one as far as
1160
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:14.359
other than getting drugs?
1161
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:19.079
Rom okay?
1162
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:21.199
Is that for four drugs?
1163
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:40.800
M I'm not feeling myself registratus.
1164
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:42.159
Let me see.
1165
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:52.439
H yeah.
1166
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.640
H h.
1167
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:00.640
Kah kay.
1168
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:11.439
Kah you okay, you want some more and then I'm good.
1169
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:13.560
I'll just have to peek m hm.
1170
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:25.520
H m.
1171
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:27.520
Hmm.
1172
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:32.800
Okay.
1173
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:43.600
Is this Virginia's boys tell me here?
1174
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:50.960
Okay? Doesn't tell you this?
1175
01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:52.800
Okay?
1176
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.960
And did you tell me about the names exactly?
1177
01:18:59.319 --> 01:18:59.760
M y.
1178
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.880
Pressure radicals Roger?
1179
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:08.359
Okay?
1180
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:12.399
They should tell the specific native rob when this is.
1181
01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:14.960
Okay?
1182
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:19.319
But no special specific DA. And you said that she
1183
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:22.920
said to you that it had been she had been
1184
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:24.039
done for several days.
1185
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:25.279
Okay.
1186
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:27.239
Did she tell me about at the time of his age?
1187
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:28.520
Is a bird? I believe that?
1188
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:30.960
Okay?
1189
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:32.960
Did she tell you version is going?
1190
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:36.760
Okay?
1191
01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:40.359
Did she tell you a specific life BOMs about where
1192
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:41.079
little beat?
1193
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:43.720
Okay?
1194
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:45.640
Now, as far as.
1195
01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:52.680
The inner run herself of how did she know that
1196
01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:55.680
the universon that she actually do right then and dinner.
1197
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:56.840
When that is in the burn?
1198
01:19:57.399 --> 01:19:57.920
She said.
1199
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:15.199
Claim said at first that yeah, m h.
1200
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:20.600
M hmm that Virginia the interview is very lucky. So
1201
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:29.159
do you recognize their voice? Okay, so that's Virginia is sulking. Okay,
1202
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:33.199
kah if you didn't.
1203
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.960
Order that, how do you think you found that out?
1204
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.880
They have to go from Europe from you too?
1205
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:59.399
Hm hm.
1206
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:08.319
Anybody that there's another thing named Baba, Yeah name, I
1207
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:09.680
don't know that that's the real name.
1208
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:21.720
You like the data with the random rights. I always
1209
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:24.439
want to make sure that people know what they're signing.
1210
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:32.920
And say that you hear Vacum said that that they
1211
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:35.079
will say, hey, man, it's which is me that they
1212
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:37.680
pick a sheriff or his her designed.
1213
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:40.680
I'm going to do it myself. Might take a sample of.
1214
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:44.760
My DNA that might be used for comparison purpose with
1215
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:49.239
other evidence concerning this case, which is the hit and
1216
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:54.600
run raphic fatality of vadas myth. I understand and agree
1217
01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.720
that same sample can be used in a court of
1218
01:21:57.840 --> 01:21:58.640
law against me.
1219
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:09.399
H Okay, sign put your name inside in the.
1220
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:31.319
Yeah h.
1221
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:34.560
M hm.
1222
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:52.640
Any questions? H The first one I asked, what's that?
1223
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:56.279
The wh are you going back to the asking? I
1224
01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:01.880
don't know yah m hm, yahy, there's a lot of
1225
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:05.479
things here that we have to take care of us better,
1226
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:17.520
and that you're here, and that there's a couple of
1227
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:20.840
things that we have to give mm hmm. Well, this
1228
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.399
is a vocal flve and when it's love inside of
1229
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:23.960
the hip.
1230
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:30.359
And how does that normally take that curiosity?
1231
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:32.560
Kah.
1232
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:36.760
It all depends on what the we'll send this to
1233
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.000
ut the Okay, so it all depends on what time.
1234
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.720
You can take a week and take a look.
1235
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:03.399
H h h.
1236
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:07.960
But I say, if it is.
1237
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.920
You've said some stuff to those people there, that's depreciate
1238
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:23.439
that they know that only you could have said, which
1239
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.000
is very specific information.
1240
01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:30.000
H m hmm.
1241
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:33.119
That uh, I have no doubt in my mind that
1242
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.920
you've done it. I have no doubt in my mind
1243
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:39.520
that you are never going to admit to it.
1244
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:44.640
Yeah.
1245
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:53.079
H If you've already told one person, tell it us
1246
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:59.960
when this goes to court. I think what we're already told,
1247
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.920
I'm out lever in the first interview. When this goes
1248
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:08.640
to court, who is already going to see the person
1249
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:15.000
that admitted and own up to what happened or the
1250
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:17.640
person that continues to deny that it happened.
1251
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:22.640
And that's not going to.
1252
01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:34.159
Ever own enough to their mistakes. I've already told you
1253
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:44.000
that when we first met over there casting. And there's
1254
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:45.800
a lot of stuff that we have to do or
1255
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:49.239
we investigate a hit or road traffic crash of this nature.
1256
01:25:50.359 --> 01:26:03.960
Okay, h say some at times when this crash has happened,
1257
01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.439
the person that's actually driving the vehicles quecially versus up
1258
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:15.319
an issue and it's not completely at fault. Sometimes they are,
1259
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:18.520
sometimes they're not. But there's a lot of viables that
1260
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:26.760
we have to look into crash investigation. Okay, you know
1261
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:32.560
yourself that you've told some people about what happened, and
1262
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:37.239
they've provided that information to us. And you know specifically
1263
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:40.119
who told me about I'm not going to tell you
1264
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:43.319
who the ants are. You can you know who you told,
1265
01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:46.720
But everybody that you don't have told.
1266
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:47.720
Us what you've said.
1267
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:56.000
So this is why I watch you keep starting too.
1268
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:02.359
But you know who you've told, and you know the
1269
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:05.279
people that have come forward and told us that you
1270
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:06.960
basically confess.
1271
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:07.840
To them what happened.
1272
01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.039
So it's up to you. It's giving you an opportunity
1273
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:21.119
to show your side of the story. I'd always liked
1274
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:23.560
to know what is going on with people's mind when
1275
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:27.479
they think about doing something, but you're obviously never going
1276
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:36.039
to do that. Give me a couple of minutes. I'll
1277
01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:40.239
be back here, and uh I'll get you back.
1278
01:27:56.880 --> 01:28:00.640
Investigators invite Higgin Boffin's boyfriend Roger to speaker in the
1279
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:02.359
hope he can get it to tell the truth.
1280
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:12.319
It's up, tiff, you got a mess.
1281
01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:13.920
Listen to me.
1282
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:20.039
Who's Virginia. I listened to recordings today recording to listen,
1283
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:23.560
you're talking to people in prison or whatever. What's John
1284
01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:25.560
to involved this? John's put money on your accounts and
1285
01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:28.600
stuffy John. I gotta be nice to you. I can't yell.
1286
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.840
I can't scream, and you know I want to scream.
1287
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:32.720
It's not funny.
1288
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:37.560
They took the truck again. It's gone. They're gonna tear
1289
01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:42.279
it apart whatever they do. I mentioned on this thing,
1290
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:45.319
this recording, my name is coming into it, which I
1291
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:48.600
have no idea why. All right, some guy named Bubba,
1292
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:54.000
I don't know. I don't got My point is this.
1293
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:57.399
They got details. They're gonna charge you. They got everything
1294
01:28:57.439 --> 01:28:59.720
they want to charge you with. You're gonna go down
1295
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:03.359
if you did it. I'm just I'm just trying to
1296
01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:04.720
tell you how serious this is.
1297
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:12.359
It's not funny. Funny they did drunk.
1298
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:17.319
I'm now I got no way to work. No, they're
1299
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:21.119
gonna get me ride home. I mean, I ain't got
1300
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:21.319
the deal.
1301
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:22.119
A truck on the road.
1302
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:24.520
That's they're gonna take it apart, do whatever they said
1303
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.159
they gotta do. They said, I ever told you about
1304
01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:32.119
when they took it the last time, DNA and paint chips.
1305
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:34.520
They say, you denying all that, And I told you
1306
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:35.319
about it jail.
1307
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:36.159
I don't remember.
1308
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:37.159
That's fine.
1309
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:37.800
I'm just telling you.
1310
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:41.680
Yet understand, And I mean, I'm just going from their
1311
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.560
point of view. They got me fixing trucks. They got
1312
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.279
it on some recorded its. Virginia, is that your friend
1313
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:47.640
in jail.
1314
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.880
She's someone that I freak washed my clothes and stuff.
1315
01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:52.960
Well, you do more than that, obviously.
1316
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:55.720
Why if if this is crazy, if you didn't do it,
1317
01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:58.119
why would you admit something to somebody in jail you did?
1318
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:00.359
They got people out here you're talking to You did
1319
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:02.119
whatever back in the day.
1320
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:02.920
I don't.
1321
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.479
I don't remember the time, but I know you're hearing
1322
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:08.439
gon I talk at how sometimes whatever I'm just saying
1323
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:13.119
it's coming down. If you did it there gone Alia,
1324
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:15.560
if you cooperate, nay, it would be less. They're talking
1325
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.920
for to fifteen four years.
1326
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:20.720
Ain't that long? Fifteen long? I don't know how much
1327
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:22.239
work it takes to get it before. I don't know.
1328
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:24.239
I have no idea.
1329
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:27.119
What's John doing talking to John Daly?
1330
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:27.880
Oh?
1331
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.880
Yeah, well, how did you get a hold John? Why
1332
01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:31.760
are you getting hold of John?
1333
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:32.680
Have money?
1334
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:36.239
There's John's like John's a plumber, John John, I do
1335
01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:37.000
work for Johnson.
1336
01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:39.840
Nick told John that I was on that I was
1337
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:43.920
on a book that because you look at the I
1338
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:48.199
guess Joel every day, and you can look at Jael
1339
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:49.159
so popular.
1340
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:52.880
Every guy in town knows you except for me. I mean,
1341
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:53.800
I'm just saying.
1342
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:57.359
I got some bubba I never heard of. I told
1343
01:30:57.399 --> 01:30:59.439
him about Tracy or Tammy or whatever her name is.
1344
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:01.920
Have you told him about her?
1345
01:31:03.199 --> 01:31:03.560
My mind?
1346
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:05.640
Well, you need to tell them whatever you know. I
1347
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:07.199
told him that she's always drowning the truck too.
1348
01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:07.680
And I don't know.
1349
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.520
They're saying you told people you did it. They got
1350
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.439
recordings of you doing it. I'm telling somebody, So somebody's
1351
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.359
wearing a wire or something. I don't know Tiffany, and
1352
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:19.520
I'm not wired either. So well, I'm just telling you,
1353
01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:21.399
I'm up to.
1354
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:23.119
My neck in this. If I have to get a lawyer,
1355
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:24.600
guess what, there's no money for a lawyer for you.
1356
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:26.000
Mom ain't gonna help me get a lawyer. I have
1357
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:26.600
to do myself.
1358
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:28.319
I don't even know if I'm fired now because my
1359
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:31.920
bosses are involved in now. Had this job four weeks,
1360
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.039
three weeks, and it's a good job. They take care
1361
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:34.239
of me.
1362
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:34.720
They're nice.
1363
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.920
It's nice to see you, but not without bars. Christ
1364
01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.680
I'm mindy Tiffany officers. Janana says, because I love you
1365
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:42.760
so much, I'm covering up for you.
1366
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:43.880
He's like that.
1367
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:46.840
He says, you're playing me for a fool. I need
1368
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.800
to take the kids and just leave and forget you.
1369
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:54.800
You need to make this ship up too. I'm not
1370
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:56.840
saying this is like a TV show and what the
1371
01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:57.600
hell comes down?
1372
01:31:58.079 --> 01:31:59.640
It's calling me just it's not funny.
1373
01:31:59.880 --> 01:32:00.880
I'm not laughing.
1374
01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:02.880
It's going to be like TV.
1375
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.359
It's going to be it'll be more than that.
1376
01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:10.359
It'll be reporters in the house, it'll be freaking people
1377
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:10.880
up her ass.
1378
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:13.399
It'll be what you call it paparazzi. It's not funny.
1379
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:16.159
Mom's gonna be going through mom as went through enough.
1380
01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:20.319
But you just with all robbing that guy with talk.
1381
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:20.840
Dumb guy.
1382
01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:25.640
I mean, it's like you told him I won't get
1383
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:27.399
no time hard because I got a clean record.
1384
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:27.880
I heard it.
1385
01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:29.439
I got they got recordings of.
1386
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:33.640
They said when I get charged with my right No,
1387
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:34.840
I know what they're saying to dude.
1388
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:35.720
They got recordings.
1389
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:37.640
They're going to say whatever.
1390
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:41.119
If they play something and I hear your voice, that's
1391
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:42.000
not them saying that.
1392
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:42.960
You saying.
1393
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:45.199
That, you say.
1394
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:48.920
They record everything. They're recording all this. They probably got
1395
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:58.119
video things. Sure, they're like, don't pop.
1396
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.039
Your no, beat her up, don't my pocket night. It's like,
1397
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:05.880
I'm not gonna do nothing. I mean, I was going
1398
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:08.199
to make plans to see you in jail so I
1399
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:09.920
can see you this week at the jail phone.
1400
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.359
You got me messed up and something. Even if you're
1401
01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:18.439
if you're innocent and stick to your guns. If you are,
1402
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:21.600
they're saying you're not, they're gonna charge you.
1403
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:24.439
They can charge me all right.
1404
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:26.439
Well, you know you know what happens if they charged
1405
01:33:26.439 --> 01:33:28.399
you and you did it, or even if they proved
1406
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:29.399
that you even if you didn't do it, and they
1407
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:31.000
prove you did because life. He's telling me people go
1408
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:33.279
to jail, don't do He's like Roger, you gotta get ready.
1409
01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:34.680
He's like, they put people in jail even if they
1410
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.199
don't think. Let him out yours later and sorry, m hmm,
1411
01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:41.319
I'm not going to jail. I'm too pretty for prison.
1412
01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:43.000
That's not funny.
1413
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:43.680
You've always said that.
1414
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:46.239
I mean, I know desire to go in prison and
1415
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.039
be fight and get trying to stab and people trying
1416
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:49.720
to I ain't doing all that.
1417
01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:51.560
I'm not.
1418
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:53.560
Why is John giving you money?
1419
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:54.760
He don't give me money.
1420
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:56.239
He's got money on your canteen?
1421
01:33:56.439 --> 01:33:57.000
No, he does not.
1422
01:33:57.159 --> 01:33:59.680
Mom's put fifty dollars on air and the other whatever
1423
01:33:59.760 --> 01:33:59.920
did you?
1424
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:00.279
Yeah?
1425
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:01.720
Yeah, I put.
1426
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:04.760
He's putting money on pay till he's.
1427
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.600
Start saying telling to John every day John, I was
1428
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:11.439
just one of what's John doing this? They're saying some
1429
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.119
love or this and whatever. It's like some one of
1430
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.000
your freaking people's it's like for.
1431
01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:19.159
Ten years or so, well, I don't know that.
1432
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:21.560
Why do I not know that? You do know that
1433
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:25.439
I know that you're tricking John. No, I've known him. Yeah,
1434
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:26.760
that's what I told him. It's like I know him.
1435
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:27.760
I know him since i've known you.
1436
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.520
Yeah, I mean I've not even for years.
1437
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:33.800
So that's what's going on with John. Now it's time
1438
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:35.800
to tell me you're John.
1439
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:36.920
That's it.
1440
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.479
You've slept with everybody in this freaking It's not funny.
1441
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:44.479
It's not funny.
1442
01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.560
And I don't really care who you sleep with. You know,
1443
01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:49.319
I love the kids and I love you too, but
1444
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:52.439
you know, the kids in my life, and they're a
1445
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:55.079
lot better off than they were, just had like the
1446
01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:58.399
second best Christmas they ever had, and even Yeah, he's like,
1447
01:34:58.720 --> 01:35:02.880
we're outside when you're and he's like, it's and I'm
1448
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:05.399
not saying this hurts you. I'm problems from say 'all.
1449
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:07.439
He's like, we don't have to worry about mom stealing presence.
1450
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.319
It's like, it's terrible that this is what these kids remember.
1451
01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:12.159
But I mean, in time, they won't remember those things.
1452
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:14.880
In time though. All just feel like her Daddy's her
1453
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:16.840
favorite person no matter what all he's done, and she
1454
01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:20.159
still you know, and goes daddy mom, and then you
1455
01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:21.800
and then I'm in the last of course.
1456
01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:22.359
Yeah.
1457
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:26.439
The point is is like it's you know they've turned around.
1458
01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:30.159
It's different now. It's so much different now, I'm sure,
1459
01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:32.479
and I wish you were there for too. I mean,
1460
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.159
you bring my heart too, but this is breaking my heart, y'all.
1461
01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:36.279
I know.
1462
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:42.239
And if you did it, tell them whoever pub it
1463
01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:44.680
is whatever. I ain't doing nothing to.
1464
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:45.119
Do in this.
1465
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:47.840
I can know that if you did it, just get
1466
01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:51.039
it over with. Well, we ain't going nowhere. I love you,
1467
01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:53.039
your mom loves you, your kids love you.
1468
01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:54.039
We ain't going nowhere.
1469
01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:56.239
Maybe when it's all said and done, even when you
1470
01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:59.239
get out this time, like when six months or whatever,
1471
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:00.560
we can do, we gotta do.
1472
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:02.640
And we'll away from here. I can make money anywhere,
1473
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.560
fix the house, but you gotta do with you. You
1474
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:08.640
got to. I'm just I'm not trying to be weird.
1475
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.960
I'm just telling you from my heart or otherwise, you're gonna.
1476
01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:14.239
Be sitting here for fifteen twenty years as supposed to
1477
01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:15.840
afford to seven or can or whatever they do.
1478
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:18.359
If I can afford the lawyer for I can afford
1479
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:19.119
the lawyer for one of.
1480
01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:20.439
Us, not both of us.
1481
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:25.560
I'll get Terry or Josh. I'll get you a good lawyer.
1482
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:28.479
But you gotta do what you gotta do and just
1483
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:30.880
quiet tell them to Baba.
1484
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:36.439
I thought you want to record? Is well you telling
1485
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:40.520
something Georgia about Bubba or whatever her name is from Georgia.
1486
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:41.720
What's her name?
1487
01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:42.359
Virginia?
1488
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:42.880
Virginia.
1489
01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:45.039
You know it's a state.
1490
01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:49.279
Yeah, that's not funny. Why why would you be in
1491
01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:51.760
jail talking if you get something? Why would you be
1492
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:54.600
in jail talking about it? Are you retarded? You think
1493
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.199
you're from the street, but obviously, Yane, you're not from
1494
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:01.880
Detroit anyway. Saying you all think your hoods.
1495
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:02.800
Here, you don't even know what the hood is.
1496
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:05.800
I'm not the same. You got yourself. You got yourself
1497
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:08.520
wrapped up in some big This is big time. This
1498
01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:11.720
ain't just Tiffany getting hide and if you and you
1499
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:13.039
probably don't even know if you did it.
1500
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:16.199
They got some recording that you didn't even know for
1501
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:17.920
two or three days or something. I heard it with
1502
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.479
my own ears, and that's just one of them. Tiffany,
1503
01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:22.800
just be done.
1504
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:24.279
I swear to you.
1505
01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:26.600
I'll back you like I always have.
1506
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:28.720
I've always backed you against all the evil drug viewers,
1507
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:31.760
against all the evil crackheaded people. I've always had you back,
1508
01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:35.119
even with Billy and then back in the day, I
1509
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:36.640
told him how I know you, how I met you,
1510
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:37.520
how I fell him of it.
1511
01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:40.880
I told him everything, because there's nothing high, there's nothing that.
1512
01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:42.279
Well, then if you're.
1513
01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:45.720
Hiding, just be done and move on. Ain't every john
1514
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:47.800
into this? They're asking me John this, John that. It's like,
1515
01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.119
why's Johan in it?
1516
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:53.800
Why am I in it? Why is Bubba in it? Yes,
1517
01:37:57.680 --> 01:37:59.439
I don't tell me. I'll tell you. I'm just telling
1518
01:37:59.439 --> 01:37:59.960
you what I'm telling you.
1519
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.439
I'm telling you I would rather do four years or
1520
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:05.880
five years or ten years if I was in your shoes.
1521
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:07.920
I'm not doing no time because I ain't doing it.
1522
01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:13.239
It'd be like a TV show. Then do twenty. I
1523
01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:14.640
don't know how long they can get you for this.
1524
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:15.560
I have no idea.
1525
01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:17.680
By my one friend at work, I was telling him
1526
01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:20.680
about it, Johnny, his cousin hit somebody and they came
1527
01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:23.039
and he did all this fighting at whatever, and he's
1528
01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:26.680
doing fifteen because he fought it. They could have done four,
1529
01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:28.640
And they say, what CoP's telling I'm doing with Johnny's
1530
01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:31.640
on me? Somebody else I heard about and I don't
1531
01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:34.560
even remember their name. They're doing four because I'm outside digging.
1532
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:36.960
I'm digging for information left and right. They're talking to
1533
01:38:37.039 --> 01:38:40.439
Jennifer about custom yers because that's where I got the
1534
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:43.960
truck from. They're talking to Takuci, John's wife. John's dad
1535
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:48.319
was who did owned the truck. They got stuff. They're
1536
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:50.399
taking the truck apart this time. It ain't like whatever
1537
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:52.920
thought swabbing or scraping or whatever they do. They're taking
1538
01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:56.600
them apart. I'm not gonna see it again. They're gonna
1539
01:38:56.600 --> 01:39:00.560
come at you. They are no joke. And all the
1540
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:02.079
best lays in your world can do is get you
1541
01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:04.600
better time or your work to try to make you
1542
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:08.079
less guilty or however they do what they do. But
1543
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:10.199
it's gonna hit and I'm not just I'm not trying
1544
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:11.760
to scare you. I'm not trying to make you think
1545
01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:13.479
that I'm gonna leave you or we're not gonna be
1546
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:16.760
there for you. I told you, I told you since
1547
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:22.560
the honestly, if you're guilty, to be done and move
1548
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:24.880
on and we'll do what you can. Well again, I
1549
01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:26.279
promise you, I'm not a joke.
1550
01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:27.840
This is not me working with them.
1551
01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:28.640
I'm not wired.
1552
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.760
This is me some of you trying to talk.
1553
01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:32.159
You're trying to help you the best way of hand,
1554
01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:37.039
because you're you're the ask anyway somehow, because you're talking
1555
01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:39.119
to people in prison. If you did or didn't do
1556
01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:43.359
or whatever you can retard it, who have talked to
1557
01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:46.800
somebody about something they done, You're going to go down.
1558
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:48.760
They're gonna make it look what even if you didn't,
1559
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:50.199
They're gonna make it look that way. They're gonna bring
1560
01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:52.199
all these people in prison in there against you and
1561
01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:55.600
all your crackhead friends and everybody. It's gonna be like
1562
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:58.279
TV bagby and it ain't gonna be good. And once
1563
01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:00.039
it gets like that, the judge has no choice. And
1564
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:01.840
I'm not they're not telling me these things move by
1565
01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:05.680
what Johnny said. It's calling me like a TV show
1566
01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:08.560
and you're gonna get hit. Do you think I'd rather
1567
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:13.119
see you in four years or fifteen? I'm not making
1568
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:16.239
this up. I'm sorry you probably hit me for saying.
1569
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:21.800
No. Do you to you just.
1570
01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:30.319
Like an Iceberg? Anything else? Talk about?
1571
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:32.560
Because I gotta get back to the house that you
1572
01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:35.960
get work or something. And the reason I want to
1573
01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:37.600
talk you just want to see you face face and
1574
01:40:37.720 --> 01:40:39.680
tell you what I think and what I mean. What
1575
01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:42.560
they're saying I want to do through a chill home.
1576
01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:44.159
I just want to see you face face.
1577
01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:44.439
And tell you.
1578
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:48.119
If you man.
1579
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:55.239
Work with him, tell Bubba is or you don't move Babah.
1580
01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:56.840
There's something when you're cracking.
1581
01:40:56.960 --> 01:40:58.920
Friends, I don't know.
1582
01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:01.920
They're asking me about these crackhouses you got. What do
1583
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:04.840
you call them back in the day? Trap houses? I
1584
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:08.199
call them crackhouses. I never want to see you with
1585
01:41:08.279 --> 01:41:10.199
those places. I always got high up with your the house.
1586
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:12.960
I've never been to these places with you. I chased
1587
01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:14.680
one of you down because you're stoop enough to leave
1588
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:15.119
my truck there.
1589
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:15.520
Find it.
1590
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:18.439
But I never smokeing all these places. I mean, it's
1591
01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:19.000
not funny.
1592
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:22.279
I mean I'm not laughing really, I'm.
1593
01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:25.079
Just it's all coming back. It's like what you put
1594
01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:28.600
me through. Yeah, don't put me through no more.
1595
01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:31.319
If you want me besides you to help you and
1596
01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:34.439
love you and do thinking, then all these things you say,
1597
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:39.000
you can get it back and return and fix it.
1598
01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.880
If you broke something, fix it, pay the twos and
1599
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:44.239
be done and walk out of your life normal behind
1600
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:45.079
you and be you sorry.
1601
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.960
You got kids, I mean you got kids. If something
1602
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:52.760
happened to Yanni, you would kill somebody, just be done.
1603
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:56.439
If something happen here at Julia, and I mean I'm
1604
01:41:56.479 --> 01:41:58.399
going through Warris John fixing and give Julia to her,
1605
01:41:58.520 --> 01:41:59.720
to her aunt or to my sister.
1606
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:02.399
Can Julia is like like a little you right now.
1607
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:07.399
It's terrible, But I'm not I mean, they're my kids.
1608
01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:08.119
I'm not gon gonna go.
1609
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:10.840
I'm not gonna sit in there and just let you happen.
1610
01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:15.800
If you guilty, just be done. I'd rather do four
1611
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:19.399
years than fifteen. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. If you didn't
1612
01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:22.279
do it, then stick to your guys. I don't think
1613
01:42:22.319 --> 01:42:24.840
it's gonna do You'll be good. And that's just from
1614
01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.920
the heart. I told them what I know. But that's
1615
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:28.319
all I know.
1616
01:42:28.760 --> 01:42:31.600
They're gonna be They're they're talking to everybody about whatever.
1617
01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:33.680
They're gonna They're gonna pain in your ass to the wall,
1618
01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:36.520
even if you didn't do it, because you're running your
1619
01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:38.960
mouth in prison and running your mouth to your drug friends.
1620
01:42:39.159 --> 01:42:43.399
Out of the outside. I reckon, No, I love you,
1621
01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:46.039
I got you back when it's time to move on.
1622
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:51.399
I'm sorry. I just know that I didn't find out
1623
01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:53.399
the hit and running to the cops.
1624
01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:55.079
It's like it's like every day, it's something new, and
1625
01:42:55.239 --> 01:43:02.800
I'm finding about john phones and Bubba's in Virginia's. It's
1626
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:04.600
like every day it's like no matter what you do
1627
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:06.399
and go to work and you come home, you're cook
1628
01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:08.239
and you kick some kids asses and you clean a
1629
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:08.640
little bit.
1630
01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:13.239
It's like something. My heart is so heavy right now.
1631
01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:16.399
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you understand what
1632
01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:20.239
I feeling, do you would you run to see me
1633
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:21.479
in four years or twenty.
1634
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:24.279
Don't cry here.
1635
01:43:24.800 --> 01:43:26.760
Going all right?
1636
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:37.199
Gold is I will the Zach life, all right. I
1637
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:39.560
don't know y'all listening or however you all do these things.
1638
01:43:41.720 --> 01:43:48.359
That's not funny. I'm going to the house. I'm gonna
1639
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:50.640
start trying to builds out of town for a week.
1640
01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:50.800
Two.
1641
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:52.319
He's the only guy I know. They can maybe help
1642
01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:54.319
me get the truck going. I ain't got the money
1643
01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:56.520
for this right now. If I have known, I would
1644
01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.000
have spent that's money on the kids for Christmas.
1645
01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:00.840
You are call your no.
1646
01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:01.520
No.
1647
01:44:01.600 --> 01:44:02.800
They let me give all my tool they do with
1648
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:05.119
the Master's drive. I took all my tools out, I
1649
01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:08.960
went to the house, got on my personal out. Yeah,
1650
01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:10.279
I can't give her tools.
1651
01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:13.560
You sold a man of even the guys in the jail.
1652
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:15.520
They're gonna be talking the guys at the pawnshop about
1653
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.359
that Tina girl you brought up in the pawn chop.
1654
01:44:17.439 --> 01:44:19.880
They wouldn't sell you tools because what's that what's that
1655
01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:25.680
bro's name? I told them all about her, because that's
1656
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:27.680
what I think happened. But I don't know because I
1657
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:28.840
don't tell me nothing.
1658
01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:31.399
Was she driving?
1659
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:33.239
I mean she's drove.
1660
01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:35.159
I don't know how many times?
1661
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:36.000
Dude, did she do it?
1662
01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:37.159
Nothing?
1663
01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:38.279
I know, I don't know.
1664
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:41.960
You better know.
1665
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:44.960
You better figure it out, because to give them something.
1666
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:48.720
If she didn't tell them, I don't know to they
1667
01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:50.000
gonna records you, you saying you did it.
1668
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:57.479
I love you. I can't touch you. They'll salt some
1669
01:44:58.560 --> 01:44:59.279
or whatever.
1670
01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:02.039
You can.
1671
01:45:02.359 --> 01:45:08.239
You can roy locked up chicken and jails. You heard
1672
01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:08.680
what I said?
1673
01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:16.840
All right?
1674
01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:22.600
All right?
1675
01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:26.479
You really? Is there anything else? Any other questions?
1676
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:28.760
Okay, let me take this.
1677
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:30.920
There.
1678
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:31.680
I'll take it later.
1679
01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:38.720
Tiffany Higginbotham pleaded guilty to the hit and run death
1680
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:42.119
of Hailey Smith. She was sentenced to seventeen years in prison,
1681
01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.199
followed by two years of house arrest and eleven years
1682
01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:45.640
probation