DC's Animation Excellence vs Marvel's Movie Mastery

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What's up?
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Hey, ben, it's been ailot of this show.
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Jay, how you doing, Jay.
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What's up?
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Hey Ben, it's been a while.
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I know, ben, I see you being out on assignment doing homework, getting stuff right for the audience.
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That's what we do.
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We got to be right or be semi-right, or be close to right.
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But you've been all right, man.
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You feeling good, you feeling confident with all your information.
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Feeling good feeling great, feeling fine, ready to go now, ladies and gentlemen, on this very special channel check, we're doing a little bit of, you know, a little bit of nerding here.
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We're going to be doing some straight up DC vs Marvel and we had to bring in some other experts because I would dominate the conversation all day about this and overwhelm my co-pilot here because he's going to be like yo, shut up, just stop.
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So we're going to bring in our first.
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Well, I don't know.
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I would call him a resident expert.
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You know, jay knows the guy.
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Jay says he vows for him.
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He says this guy knows his deal.
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So we're going to find out.
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Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome John to the show.
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John, come on in here.
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How you doing today, man?
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Hey, what's up how y'all doing.
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There you go.
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Welcome to the show.
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Welcome to the show.
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You feeling good, you feeling around, you feeling like you're ready to throw out some knowledge teach us um I'm I'm ready to end up arguing and our other guests as these conversations always go and our other guest, who has kind of become a resident and just lives here now.
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in fact, we kind of just keep them in a closet locked up most of the time and we let them them out to record once in a while.
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It's Tim Tim.
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Hey, what's good to do everybody?
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It's a little dusty in here, if y'all mind Just kind of dusting that a little bit.
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There was a cat in there last Tuesday that I had to fight for by a piece of cheese.
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Anyway, how y'all feeling.
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Hey, hey, hey, give us some more.
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Can you at least put holes in the closet?
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No, ask him a lot now.
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It's stinking.
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Can you at?
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least move them.
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Cleats that you have from 92?
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No.
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Those are collector's items.
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Those are vintage.
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Right, it's going to make us a lot of money one day.
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A lot.
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From whose stinking ass feet would he use it?
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Don't worry about that Stop asking questions.
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Geez.
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No Slow.
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Can't take you nowhere.
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You're damn right.
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I'm gonna tell you about it, sir.
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How y'all feeling I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna start off this conversation and I believe that this is factual what I'm about to say.
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Okay, okay, dc makes better animated stuff, but their live-action shit is well shit.
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I mean.
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In what sense?
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Right Justice League.
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Flash movie Pause Batman v Superman.
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Movie oh pause Batman v Superman.
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Hold on pause because right off the bat, we're going to talk about Justice League.
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We got redemption with the Snyder Cut.
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We got redemption with the Snyder Cut though the other one.
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Yeah, like the.
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The Josh Whedon version.
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Yeah, the Josh Whedon version.
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That was terrible.
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I don't know what she was doing, because you created one of the greatest television shows the Josh Whedon version.
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Yeah, the Josh Whedon version.
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Yeah, that was terrible.
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I don't know what he was doing, because he created one of the greatest television shows of all time Firefly.
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That's right, fuck y'all.
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I wasn't going to say Buffy, because fuck Buffy, it's all about Firefly.
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Brown cuts for life Buffy's good though, but regardless, I don't know what Whedon was thinking, because he came in and was just like oh, you've already shot 75% of this movie.
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Cool, let's scrap most of that, let's shoot a whole bunch of new scenes, that single Batman movie that Ben Affleck was supposed to do, fuck that.
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So when you say all right, live action, All right, all right, all right For DC, I would say their TV shows are good.
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Their TV shows are pretty good.
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Okay, I will agree with that.
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The movies the WB's Flash, the WB's Green Arrow Very good.
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What about Supergirl?
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I agree.
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What about CW's Supergirl?
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Sorry what I couldn't hear you.
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CW's Supergirl.
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Supergirl was decent.
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Supergirl was decent.
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Supergirl was decent.
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Uh, I the problem with supergirls, it felt like even in the comics, though, she's really used primarily as like a superman's on vacation.
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Here you go.
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No, not even that she's usually used as like a.
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No, not even that she's usually used as like a we got.
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Superman at home.
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We're not going against.
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Superman, she's a nexus to like the Tomorrowverse.
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That's Power Girl.
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We got Supergirl at home.
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I mean we got Legends of Tomorrow.
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Legends of Tomorrow was good.
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It was okay.
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I won't lie, though personal opinion.
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I feel like it went on a little too long yeah.
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Like they should have ended it and it was like, okay, cool, we're just continuing to keep going.
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That sounds very familiar in the MCU, where it was like all right, we wrap things up with you know, avengers.
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Hold on.
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So we still got.
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You had a what's that one, the one, but it was like the Justice Society, the kickoff of Justice Society.
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Was it like Stargirl or something like that?
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I mean, power Girl is an analog for Supergirl.
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I forget, forget where she originates from.
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We can't forget the greatest television show of all time, DC Gotham.
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That was something.
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Gotham was a I'll be honest.
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When Gotham was initially brought.
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I'll be honest when Gotham was initially brought up, I thought it was going to be a Batman show Like, even as a young kid, Bruce Wayne, but still Batman-esque.
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And when it came out as like a gritty cop drama, I was not expecting that Following, young Jim Gordon cop drama.
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I was not expecting that following uh, following young jim jim gordon, you know what show?
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because, like it boggles my mind, because the dctv shows the majority of them are really really good, like pennyworth, huh, that was good penguin.
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Penguin is good, penguin's solid too.
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Good lord, he immersed himself in that character.
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All the shows are great.
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I always sit there and say the shows are good.
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I still go back and watch the Lois and Clark Superman adventure with Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher.
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Terry Hatcher, I still watch that.
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It's 90s cheese.
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It was cheese, but it was good cheese.
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It was good cheese, that's like the Batman, like the Michael Keaton, val Kilmer, all those.
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They're cheesy.
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But they're cheesy in the part.
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At one point the man has a Batman MasterCard.
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Let's not forget about the bat nipples.
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With Bat Jordans.
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We sit there like even their failed shows were pretty good, Like River Power, yeah, Power with the 50 Cent Show.
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No, no, no.
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Shit that's in the DC universe.
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No, I didn't even know.
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Oh my god, that'd be good.
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That explains so much about Kanan.
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I'm gonna get you, batman, I'm sorry.
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I don't know.
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Could you imagine?
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fucking Bruce Wayne Coming out Gotham.
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He was constantly going to war with the Joker.
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I'm dying.
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Can you imagine fucking Bruce Wayne coming out Gotham?
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He's constantly going to war with the Joker.
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He has to you stole my chain, Joker.
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I don't know what you heard about me, but I got the whole Bat family after me, so this show is called Powerless.
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I'm sorry, oh okay, that's without 50 cent.
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I retract all previous jokes had a had a favorite person, abbott in it.
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You know our favorite person, abed.
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You know Vanessa Huggins and then the great legendary DC character himself, alan Tudyk.
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So the show was great Like the show was.
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It was a great like attempt to be like, yeah, we're in a DC world, what if, like regular people in DC world, what they gotta go through?
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And everybody in the show was like working at a Wayne, at like Wayne go through.
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And everybody in the show was like working at a Wayne, at like Wayne Enterprises.
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And Alan Turdick played as Van Wayne, like the cousin of Bruce Wayne, who didn't know that Bruce was Batman.
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He just knows that Bruce gets all the accolades and he was so jealous of him that he just wants to be as cool as him.
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So, like, even his fellow show was actually pretty good.
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And then, of course, you know you got your um.
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What was the um?
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The Misfits one.
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The Misfits show, the one with uh, uh, brendan Fraser as the uh, as the Tin man.
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Oh fucking, oh shit, ah God damn it, and it was really really good shit, god damn it.
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And it was really really good too, because it had Cyborg in it.
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The Invisible man I love that research.
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Doom Patrol there it is.
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Doom Patrol was very good, doom Patrol was solid.
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Their TV shows are pretty fucking Like.
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Tv shows are pretty awesome.
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No, I will also throw out, though.
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So why can't they make a good fucking movie?
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I will throw out, though.
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Personally, I felt like whatever the budget on Doom Patrol was was abysmal, because, like I've seen them do better on like that robot dude did not like.
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He looked like a dude in a costume.
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It was, it was rough.
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No, cause that wasn't cyborg.
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That was like uh, how, what is he called?
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Oh, you're talking about Brendan Fraser's character.
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Oh yeah, yeah, Um, but you gotta remember his he was supposed to be.
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uh, he's cliff.
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He was supposed to be Cliff, Remember he was supposed to be made back in the 50s, or something like that.
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And I get that, but it looked so much like a dude in a costume it didn't look like I feel like it was supposed to.
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I'll give you that Because, honestly, they were probably going by the old character shirts that he was drawing before, so it was probably like a wink nudge towards people who were fans previously.
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So I'll take that yeah, he wasn't like.
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This wasn't like when Cliff was made, when he was created back in the 40s and 50s, they were still crude, making robots and stuff, sleek designs and stuff.
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Sleek designs and stuff.
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I mean GI Robot would disagree.
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But go off.
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GI Robot was animated dude.
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Let's live action, live action.
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Let's stick with that.
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We'll get there.
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We'll get to the animation part, because DC animation is fucking on point.
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Absolutely.
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If we're still talking about it.
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Personally, I know it was critically hated.
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Constantine was a banger for DC.
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I love Constantine.
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I'm still dying for a sequel.
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What about Lucifer?
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That's a DC character, is it?
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Yeah, is it really?
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Yeah, lucifer is a DC character.
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I didn't know that the devil was a DC character.
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I'm here, me thinking it was all biblical.
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Well, I mean, technically, marvel does have Santa as an X-Men, so he is an Omega level mutant that makes sense how you deliver the presence one night 100% dog that does kind of work now so you got Lucifer.
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You had um, like Titans was.
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I think they could have did better with Titans.
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So I will say there were moments in Titans where I was really hooked and I was like, okay, this is great, I'm digging the story.
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I see what you're doing.
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I see you're drawing the lines primarily to the story everyone wants when it comes to Teen Titans.
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Primarily to the story everyone wants when it comes to Teen Titans, robin and Deathstroke Slade Wilson, whatever you want to call him, that whole pulling Robin to the dark side.
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The problem was that wasn't Because that was supposed to be Damien in Titans, right, yeah, it was supposed to be Damien in Titans, right, yeah, it was supposed to be Damien.
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So it immediately was out of place.
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No, no, no no, that wasn't supposed to be Damien.
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That Titan was supposed to be, not Dick.
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It wasn't supposed to be Dick, it was Jason Todd.
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It was supposed to be Jason Todd, wasn't?
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it yeah, it was supposed to be Jason Todd To calm his anger issues is why they put him on the team, or some shit, right, yeah.
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Yeah, it was supposed to be Jason Todd.
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I mean what before?
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he got killed or after?
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Is this pre or post Red Hood?
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So evidently, if I'm not mistaken in the later seasons he does come back as Red Hood yeah.
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Red Hood goes hard he does, but like they definitely tried to shoehorn in that storyline from a classic Teen Titans story with a different character, where it isn't going to make sense of like converting a good guy over to the darkness and then like it really being like like a double agent play Because, like when that happened to Dick in the comics and in the Teen Titans cartoon, that was a major thing, like we were all hooked to that.
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It's just Like DC shows are.
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They're good and sometimes they're you know a mess, but they're good, and sometimes they're you know, but they're so good though, like they do great jobs when they're serious.
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I mean Watchmen.
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That's part of well, you know DC owns that property, but I don't want to say it's a DC.
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I mean, it wasn't DC until it came over to like the HBO show.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Stargirl, that's what it was.
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Now it was in the comics, of course, and stuff whenever it was initially purchased or brought over.
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You can't count the original Watchmen movie.
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Superman and Lois I mean Smallville.
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Smallville yeah.
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Smallville was good, I'll be honest, I'm not a Superman fan.
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But people love Smallville.
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They did a great job.
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It had cameos from heroes.
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Yeah, they did a great job of telling Clark Kent's story growing up before he became Superman.
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They did a great job on that.
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I think that's what they were trying to do with Gotham.
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They focused primarily on Jim Gordon.
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Bruce was there, popping up every once in a while but they focused more on all the villains in Gotham than they did on Bruce Wayne.
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I kind of want to bring up why I wanted to make this episode.
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John and I were having a conversation and this goes to the Marvel side because Marvel has a really hard time making shows.
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They make great movies, but their shows are.
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And the key one that I brought up She-Hulk.
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And the key one that I brought up She-Hulk and I argued that if you look at the majority of Marvel's TV shows, they are not meant to be standalone things.
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They are connective tissue.
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First off, punisher standalone amazing John Bernthal killed it.
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Hold on pause.
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Because Punisher itself was spider-webbed through Daredevil.
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He had to be introduced and raised up through the Daredevil series before he even got a chance at his own show and, honestly, the Daredevil-Punisher thing was an anomaly in what they had been doing, because people attached to Daredevil so quickly during the pandemic and then they pumped out that Punisher show Like it was classic.
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It was everything you wanted, comic, accurate.
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Yes, I remember one moment in the Punisher show he literally stomps a dude's head and they don't cut away and I was like hell, yeah, this is Punisher.
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Yeah, but also the Marvel shows feel so small.
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I think that's what.
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I think that's what makes the show, the show's, not so great, because they feel so small, like with the dc.
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So you, you know, so you know who's supposed to be like, whose area it is.
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You're like this is taking place in gotham, so you know who's supposed to be around.
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This takes place in star city, so you know a central city, you know who's supposed to be around.
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They stay takes place in Star City, so you know, in Central City, you know who's supposed to be around.
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This takes place in Metropolis, so you know who's supposed to be around.
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Where are you watching?
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You know you're watching, let's say, the Defenders.
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You know this is placed in New York, so do you know that?
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Okay, we're looking at Luke Cage and Jessica Jones and Daredevil, and you know Iron Fist, but we also know it's New York, so why can't we see Spider-Man flying by?
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Or why can't freaking Cap be driving by?
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Do you want the answer to that?
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Yeah, because Sony owned it.
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Sony still owns Spider-Man, so that's why Spider-Man couldn't be swinging by.
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Well, that one, yeah, but why not?
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Iron Fist, luke Cage, jessica Jones, captain America, how many other characters?
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live in New York.
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Hold on Captain America's from New York, but let's not get it twisted.
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He's not hanging out in New York all the time, then where?
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the fuck does he live that?
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man is globetrotting.
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That's my question.
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This is my question because you have all these different characters who live in New York.
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I'm from Brooklyn, I'm from Bed-Stuy, So-and-so forgot you.
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You can't go two blocks and help out Luke Cage neighborhood.
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I'm sorry, this is just me and my soapbox.
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You just you couldn't go over there and help out.
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You said they got explosions and shit like that.
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No, I can't help you.
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You ain't on 71st neighborhood spider-man well in in that defense I mean luke cage probably told him get the fuck out of my neighborhood, I handle this myself so can't use luke cage as a good, as a good example on that one, but also very good explanation for that one.
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Yeah, yeah, like which I'm gonna be honest the the luke cage show.
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It was perfect.
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I I loved every moment watching that show.
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The soundtrack like there was one moment where he's standing across from the drug house and Wu-Tang's protected net comes on and I went, oh shit.
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So, they're live action shows.
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I think because they feel like Okay.
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all those shows, though, were pre-Disney.
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True, this was before the mouse.
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I'm going to be honest.
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No, no, no, they were pre-Disney.
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True, this was before the mouse.
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I'm going to be honest.
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No, no, no, no, they were part of the mouse.
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The Punisher was not part of the mouse.
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Yes, 100%.
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I'm on Marvel's thing right now Marvel series on Disney+.
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Marvel's the Punisher.
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Yeah, everything's on Disney+ Now.
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Now, yeah, they's on Disney+ now.
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They licensed it through Netflix, but it's still their property.
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No, remember, the mouse owns Marvel.
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They've had it since when They've owned Marvel for a long time, Since like 92.
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Really 92?
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I don't know about 92.
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Hold on.
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Blade, you forget Blade's what kicked it off?
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I get that.
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I don't believe about 92.
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Blade.
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You forget Blade's what kicked it off?
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I get that.
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I don't believe the mouse was in charge of that.
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Blade is the original OG superhero and I fucking love Blade.
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And thank you, wesley Snipes 2009 was the deal.
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There we go.
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I'm about to say that makes more sense.
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Yeah, because 92 is when they start selling their properties off.
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Yeah, that's when 92 was when Marvel was selling itself off piece by piece, just to survive.
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So that's why I went back to 92.
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But yeah the last thing we got before Marvel was bought by.
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Disney was like the X-Men trilogy.
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Yeah, no, what I'm thinking is before.
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What I'm thinking is pre-Disney Plus, before the mouse started, so pre-pandemic.
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Yeah, before the mouse started saying oh shit, hold on.
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All these people are making all this money streaming our shit.
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Let's make our own streaming shit and make the money, right.
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No, I agree with that, but I see what you're going for.
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Well, see and I feel like that was the moment where it really takes my argument a little bit further with the, that's when they started using TV shows as connective tissue.
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For example, they're wanting to bring Moon Knight as a movie eventually.
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Well, they started him off as a character they know, hawkeye isn't as popular as most of the.
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We're not gonna get another season of moon night I I feel the same way about hawkeye, because hawkeye the show was amazing love.
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The hawkeye show was good it was really good.
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My only problem I'm having with this is connective tissue idealism is that for some odd reason, it's like without the sum of its parts, you lose steam, and if you miss one part of a connection.
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It's like you don't have the full embodiment of the show that you're trying to watch.
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Perfect example that, like all this, everything has its own show.
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Now which?
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honestly, as a moviegoer, it pisses me off yeah, like everything post in game is like they're chasing the dragon.
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They're trying to capture that lightning in the bottle again and it's not fucking working for them, except for little bits here and there.
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See, and this is where I got a chance to talk to you, Stan Lee, of course.
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I mean granted, but I'm going to steer the argument.
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So did you guys watch the what If series?
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Yes, yes.
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No.
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I watched a little bit, not the whole.
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thing if series, yes, yes, no, I watched a little bit, not the whole thing, okay, so the first season it ends with that dr strange one which actually leads into the multiverse of madness.
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Uh, the loki tv series leading into these other, what should have been the kang movie, um, you know, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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The falcon and the winter soldier really turning into the introduction of falcon becoming captain america, wandavision merging into the.
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What if it's all connective tissue, the, the she-hulk.
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Granted, it was a little bit of a miss in the connective there are more misses than just She-Hulk.
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I mean not a lot.
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Ms Marvel wasn't too terrible.
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It wasn't great.
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I didn't like they had to water her down Like.
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Marvel would.
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Yeah, they Kara Davers had a fucked up past Like her shit was fucked.
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No, no, no, no.
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No, I'm talking about Ms Marvel, not Captain Marvel.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, the TV show, yeah, I feel like they didn't really do her character a ton of justice, but it was all right.
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Yeah, they swapped her, for you know.
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X-Men 97, but that's more animated again.
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Yeah, the fact that they made her a mutant.
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They swapped Ms Marvel into a mutant to explain her powers, marvel into a mutant to explain her powers.
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I see here we're supposed to be getting an Ironheart TV series which kind of interests me.
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Yeah, because she has replaced Tony.
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Tony is not there, no more.
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In Ironheart.
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She is there.
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They're Ironman right now, and she even has Tony Stark as her mentor.
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He pops up and gives her know they're iron man right now, and she even has tony stark as her uh, as a mentor system.
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Yeah, he pops up and, you know, gives her, you know, points and ideas of what she need to do and everything is it going to be rdj?
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I don't know if they're going to do it in this tv show.
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They probably can't afford it it makes me wonder because, uh, they probably still have that man on the contract.
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I mean, they are bringing him back as dr doom, so they probably have they probably still have that man under contract.
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I mean, they are bringing him back as Doctor Doom, they probably have a Jarvis, or you know, gal Friday.
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Yeah, I just once again.
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It's really frustrating as an OG moviegoer that now that you have to watch these microcosms of shows instead of just like watching the films and you'd be completely caught up by watching two or three films Now I gotta watch 16 series just to see what the hell happened in between time.
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But no, so that to your point.
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That's.
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The problem is, if you watch these shows, it really doesn't advance anything like remember, agent and shield was supposed to be like the big connector, like after what happened with the avengers, you go to the shield and you're supposed to be like all right, while the avengers away doing stuff, agent and shield, the agent and shield go to Agent of the Shield and you're supposed to be like alright, while the Avengers are away doing stuff, the Agent of the Shield are running in the background looking for the next issue that they're going to bring to the Avengers.
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Like, oh hey, here's the next problem, you guys will solve it.
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And I thought that was well done.
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I'll give them that I liked it.
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It was done the first two seasons, like when Nick Fury showed up, oh snap, we're connected.
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We're connected to the universe, the movie universe, when Fury showed up.
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And I get that side of things.
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But I look at it not from the moviegoer side of things.
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I look at it from the comic book side of things where I'm like, oh, there's all these different stories going on and sometimes they'll connect and dovetail together and like cause, like I'm I'm essentially looking at this as like independent stories that come up and, like I said, like weave together and create sometimes a bigger narrative.
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Sometimes it leads to nothing, Sometimes it's a one shot, Like the defenders was cool.
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I didn't really need a second season or anything to ever come from it.
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But that's the problem with the Marvel show is.
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Me personally as a comic book reader reader.
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Marvel stories are not interesting, maybe like their big events yes, but you know, their regular stories.
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I'll go grab a Deadpool.
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I'll definitely grab an X-Men, but everything else everybody else.
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I'm like yeah, I'm good, I'd rather DC grab like two or three different stories and see where they're at well, to be fair, that also falls back on, like the like the real focus of dc comics when it started, the detective comics that, like they, really they had a lot of like batman doing investigating, even superman being an investigative reporter.
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There was a lot of intrigue, a lot of mystery, whereas Marvel was always more of, oh, the big bad.
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Yeah.
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Like the big bad of the week, the big bad of the month, whatever Right.
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You sit there and you look at these shows, all right, all right, so we're going to name off some of these Marvel shows.
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Right?
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So we had Incredible Hulk with Lou Ferrigno so that was pretty cool.
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I mean, we're going that far back, I'm naming them off that means.
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I get to go Adam West Batman.
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I'm excited.
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Let's do it oh shit, the number one Batman in my heart.
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Holy press of metal Batman.
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That means I get to go.
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Adam West Batman.
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I'm excited, let's do it.
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Oh shit, the number one Batman in my heart.
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Holy press of metal Batman.
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He wasn't the first, but he was the best.
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He even had an Avenger hookup in that show and then Cloak and Dagger.
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There was so much teenage angst in that one.
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I wasn't a fan.
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Hold on.
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Are we talking about the 2019 Cloak and Dagger, or are we talking about a Cloak and Dagger from the 90s?
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You jumped from Incredible Hulk with Lou Ferrigno.
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I'm just going down this list right here.
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I got the Incredible Hulk.
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If you want me to incredible.
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I take it we're not doing chronological order here.
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That's what I'm saying, if we're just talking about random shows like that.
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That's the thing is.
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There was a lot of these shows that just could be thrown away the runaways I never.
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I never watched the runaways.
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How do they get two seasons?
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I didn't even know that that was a fucking dc show, that's.
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I never even watched it.
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That's a marvel show.
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I don't know who the fuck it is.
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I never watched it the runaway, see.
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But here's the thing about it.
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The runaways was an interesting story.
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Like Like okay, so you know how you had.
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Like the Teen Titans over in DC.
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Oh no, that's the thing.
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The characters are interesting.
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Yeah.
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Like I've seen stories about them.
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The video game Midnight Suns focuses heavily on some of the characters from the Runaways.
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Like you had.
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Like you had.
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Like you had the Teen Titans and then, of course, had like the Teen Titans over in DC.
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What you do with your, you know your younger, younger heroes, or you know those who just that figure out what their, your powers are going to be.
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That was your.
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What I would run away it's Marvel's runaways was like hey, we had these powers, what are we going to do with it?
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Like I gotta try to do good.
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I better do something At one point one character's storyline is I just want to be a normal teenager, but my mom's in a cult and wants to sacrifice me to the devil.
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Exactly.
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The kids are like I got these powers, I just want to live life, but all their parents are villains.
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They're literally running a villain organization.
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They would be part of the.
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Legion of Doom or something.
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Yeah, that would make Runaways kind of interesting.
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Season 2 was like okay, what are we doing?
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But if I'm being honest, that could have been one season.
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Yeah, it could have If you put that whole show into one season.
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that could have been one season.
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If you put that whole show into one season, that would have been great, Especially if it would have had Daredevil level writing.
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But it was a Hulu show, though I don't think they got Daredevil level money.
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That's what.
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I was going to bring up Maybe now.
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No, no, because Hulu was partially owned by 3, because ABC, disney and Fox.
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I'm saying they're locked in with Disney, like Disney Plus and all that stuff before Disney completely took it over.
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Fox was kicking in money, so they had money, but it was a Hulu show.
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It was like one of those hey, come to Hulu and watch our show on Hulu, because we got this going Go ahead.
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No.
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I will say like as of right now, though, because I feel like at this moment we're in a lull.
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What Marvel show, what Marvel like movie is coming up that's supposed to?
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I've not heard anything crazy coming from Marvel lately.
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Movie-wise.
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You're talking about the movie side.
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I'm talking about TV show anime.
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What's their next big thing?
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That's the problem I don't think they even know.
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Look at your character, know Well, I mean look at your character lineup.
00:33:22.008 --> 00:33:24.748
Here for a perfect example, Dante and I.
00:33:24.748 --> 00:33:30.366
I don't know if Tim has seen it, but we've seen the new Falcon or Captain America.
00:33:30.366 --> 00:33:30.949
Brave New World.
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I'll put it on my list though so yeah, so what he was like.
00:33:41.473 --> 00:33:49.848
Okay, spoiler alert, your big reveal in this was thought about rose.
00:33:49.848 --> 00:33:51.672
Thought about ross is red hulk.
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That's your big reveal.
00:33:53.875 --> 00:34:02.911
Like you sit in this movie and they're like the crescendo, the climax, the big part is Roscoe's Red Hulk.
00:34:02.911 --> 00:34:08.054
It's like you showed me that in the trailer and at the same time, as soon as I saw Thunderbolt Ross, I'm like it's fucking Red Hulk.
00:34:08.054 --> 00:34:12.769
Like we remember that back from the Edward Norton Hulk movie.
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Yeah.
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Like you movie.
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You're not showing me anything new here.
00:34:19.985 --> 00:34:21.425
I just don't understand the casting on that.
00:34:21.425 --> 00:34:22.987
Don't get me wrong.
00:34:22.987 --> 00:34:24.731
Harrison Ford, great actor.
00:34:26.317 --> 00:34:28.592
He's Han Solo in Indiana Jones.
00:34:29.204 --> 00:34:30.530
Yeah, but how old is that man?
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And not to mention, he essentially hates those characters.
00:34:35.195 --> 00:34:40.931
The man he plays characters that he doesn't want to continue playing.
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It kind of shows on screen too sometimes.
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I'm not going to lie.
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But like.
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I have an issue with that?
00:34:50.804 --> 00:34:52.771
Yeah, but you know what he doesn't hate Money.
00:34:53.853 --> 00:35:05.751
Like I think that's the big problem with the, with this Marvel side is, besides what, spider-man, the next Spider-Man?
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Tom Holland.
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There's not really any new up-and-coming actors that are.
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The Tom Holland Spider-Man and the animated one.
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We're all looking forward to that one.
00:35:16.474 --> 00:35:17.137
Oh, the Spider-Man.
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And the animated one.
00:35:17.579 --> 00:35:22.554
We're all looking forward to that one, oh, the Spider-Verse that's coming out to be announced.
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Yeah, probably 26, probably going to come 26, maybe 27.
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Who knows?
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Maybe 28.
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We're waiting on those two, I bet we get it before we get GTA 6.
00:35:40.135 --> 00:35:46.653
See what you did there I mean popping back over to DC shows, though.
00:35:46.653 --> 00:35:52.989
I mean there was a Constantine show that they had for a season.
00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:55.115
Black Lightning was pretty solid.
00:35:56.485 --> 00:35:57.161
Yeah, I thought it was entertaining.
00:35:57.161 --> 00:35:57.500
Oh, I didn't get to see that one.
00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:57.702
Was it good?
00:35:57.648 --> 00:35:58.032
Lightning was pretty solid.
00:35:58.032 --> 00:35:58.394
Yeah, I thought it was entertaining.
00:35:58.394 --> 00:35:58.697
Oh, I didn't get to see that one.
00:35:58.697 --> 00:35:59.059
Was it good?
00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:00.019
Yeah, it was pretty good.
00:36:00.019 --> 00:36:01.041
It was pretty solid.
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It's on.
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CW too.
00:36:03.909 --> 00:36:08.951
Let's be real, they really CW took care of the shows.
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CW.
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They do it good.
00:36:11.391 --> 00:36:12.548
They did a great job with it.
00:36:12.548 --> 00:36:15.030
Just fucking let CW do all the fucking TV shows.
00:36:18.125 --> 00:36:22.985
Now I will say personal opinion I don't want to.
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I haven't seen and I don't want to see the Peacemaker TV show.
00:36:25.934 --> 00:36:31.454
I don't care, I liked it.
00:36:31.454 --> 00:36:35.894
This is just because I don't like the idea of Peacemaker as a character.
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Why I thought he was.
00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:54.190
I like thought he was great in the things that I've seen, like the Suicide Squad, things like that, but like the Peacemaker is like the weakest attempt at a parallel to the Nova Corps.
00:36:56.793 --> 00:37:01.873
I thought you were going to say I do not agree or align with that at all.
00:37:02.545 --> 00:37:04.684
That's an interesting perspective, though I'll take that.
00:37:05.146 --> 00:37:07.414
His whole gimmick is like it's a wrong perspective, but you know.
00:37:07.414 --> 00:37:17.547
Because, if I'm not mistaken, in their universe he's like the last Peacemaker, right yeah?
00:37:17.586 --> 00:37:19.012
his dad was Pe, was peacemaker.
00:37:19.132 --> 00:37:34.974
Now it's him yeah, because originally, like they were just like a police, like a, an evil villain police force in like the comics and stuff, we didn't need to make one of those, uh, a tv show.
00:37:34.974 --> 00:37:36.458
We didn't need to make one of those a TV show.
00:37:39.246 --> 00:37:40.150
That's a background.
00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.454
Minion that they made a main character.
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But that's how you.
00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:50.480
Instead of doing something new, instead of doing something that people wanted.
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:51.003
They did.
00:37:51.003 --> 00:37:54.751
They did something new by making the Peacemaker show.
00:37:54.751 --> 00:37:57.873
That's not what I mean by new, though.
00:37:58.125 --> 00:38:03.954
What I mean is new with a new main character, like bigger character that people are wanting to see.
00:38:03.954 --> 00:38:06.532
It's like all right, we're going to take this like Name one.
00:38:06.532 --> 00:38:09.528
That's what you're supposed to do.
00:38:09.528 --> 00:38:10.411
What do you mean, though?
00:38:10.411 --> 00:38:18.777
Name one, a Justice League regular movie that doesn't suck like the Whedon one?
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That isn't technically four hours long.
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But this is what you're supposed to do.
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You have this roster of characters and you put them on screen.
00:38:28.251 --> 00:38:40.090
If people react to hey, we like this character, then let's write this horse you brought Peacemaker as a gimmick and people loved him because everybody loves John Cena.
00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:49.380
It's like yo, let's keep riding this, even though he had a short run in comics, which, oh my god, this series was so fucking stupid.
00:38:49.405 --> 00:38:53.213
But then we turn around and in upcoming we've got Lanterns in 2026.
00:38:53.213 --> 00:38:54.356
That's interesting.
00:38:55.867 --> 00:38:57.474
And we should have been had Lanterns.
00:38:57.474 --> 00:39:00.092
I can't believe it took this long for Lanterns.
00:39:00.485 --> 00:39:05.452
Well, to be fair, Ryan Reynolds did his damage.
00:39:05.452 --> 00:39:12.014
Yeah, I love that man, I love that man to death.
00:39:12.014 --> 00:39:13.311
That movie is so bad.
00:39:14.528 --> 00:39:20.766
He went back in his own universe as Deadpool and killed not only himself and the character he's forgiven.
00:39:20.766 --> 00:39:21.909
In my opinion, he's good.
00:39:22.170 --> 00:39:23.472
Let it die.
00:39:23.472 --> 00:39:27.864
We're not going to talk about it anymore.
00:39:28.164 --> 00:39:33.036
But DC did it right by bringing these characters and giving them a run Like Kite man.
00:39:33.036 --> 00:39:42.132
I know we're going to the anime side, but Kite man, this dude, was not supposed to be a somebody he's like C or D, tier villain.
00:39:43.266 --> 00:39:44.436
Okay, two things, though.
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Two things.
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I'll throw out there, though One.
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I feel like with the animated universe you can get away with things like that, where it's like throwaway characters.
00:39:52.731 --> 00:39:59.364
If Peacemaker would have been a cartoon like an animated cartoon, that would have been okay.
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I don't want to see a whole live action series about peacemaker I don't know, I kind of want to see a live action kite man but now the second thing is there.
00:40:13.570 --> 00:40:24.472
now there is a real good storyline involving Kite man in the comics that made him iconic in the comics, which is like where the Joker gets depressed.
00:40:24.472 --> 00:40:36.836
The Riddler tries to make him laugh and the way he does it is essentially by building up Kite man to thinking he can take down Batman, and then Batman, beating the shit out of him, goes justice.
00:40:43.746 --> 00:40:44.947
That is awesome and that makes the joker laugh.
00:40:44.967 --> 00:41:05.342
that's awesome, right there that adds some villain shit right there like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty villainous see, that makes him a great villain right there, like you know what well, and the thing is that that literally developed kite man into like one of those like high level meme characters in the dc universe, which is it's understood.
00:41:05.822 --> 00:41:08.931
It's understandable why he would get like a little short tv show.
00:41:08.931 --> 00:41:14.168
Now I don't know how long it's going on for, because it's at least one season now.
00:41:14.168 --> 00:41:14.489
Is there?
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Are they more of it?
00:41:16.534 --> 00:41:24.690
They could probably run a second season out of it, because I mean Bane like Bane alone in that series bouncing around in both Harley Quinn and Kite man.
00:41:25.253 --> 00:41:25.675
That's true.
00:41:27.487 --> 00:41:29.719
I did because I haven't watched the whole series of Kite man.
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:30.403
I love that version of Bane.
00:41:30.423 --> 00:41:38.018
so much I was like I haven't seen the whole series of Kite man, but I did see a couple episodes with Bane in it and that was fucking hilarious.
00:41:38.967 --> 00:41:41.190
And here's one thing I want to bring up to you guys.
00:41:41.190 --> 00:41:44.726
It's like, alright, we're looking at the DC side, like we're even there.
00:41:44.726 --> 00:41:55.355
You have your big three, you have the Trinity and you have a whole lot of side characters like hey, everybody's getting a chance on screen and you know, people are liking some of their stuff and some they might not.
00:41:55.355 --> 00:42:05.389
If you go over to the Marvel side, your main cast of the Avengers, because apparently the X-Men do not exist in the MCU.
00:42:06.686 --> 00:42:12.806
Well, I mean now with you know the whole Brave New World movie.
00:42:12.806 --> 00:42:15.474
We know the X-Men are coming.
00:42:15.474 --> 00:42:17.630
Yeah, it really chuffs me to no end movie.
00:42:17.630 --> 00:42:34.675
We know that X-Men are coming, which really chuffs me to no end, that they're like oh, here's the celestial that we haven't talked about at all because that movie was so fucking bad no mention of it in any other TV show or movie.
00:42:35.273 --> 00:42:36.025
And then all of a sudden.
00:42:36.405 --> 00:42:42.333
Oh, by the way, here's a dead celestial in the Indian Ocean, not the Atlantic, not the Pacific.
00:42:42.333 --> 00:42:45.574
You know the two biggest, the Indian, a very small one.
00:42:45.574 --> 00:42:48.391
We're just going to fucking gloss over that.
00:42:50.315 --> 00:42:51.378
Nobody's noticed it.
00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:58.027
Can I just pinhole one thing in particular, one thing that's always bothered me is that we have scarlet witch.
00:42:58.027 --> 00:43:02.914
Right, we're gonna talk about the scarlet witch we're gonna talk about her we're gonna call about quicksilver not a good shit, right?
00:43:02.914 --> 00:43:16.190
So we can't talk about her father being the single most devastating, fucking vicious villain on the fucking planet, and he can't tie into it at all because someone had the rule of the word mutant yeah, like that's the thing, yeah wanda is a mutant.
00:43:16.570 --> 00:43:18.217
And's what made me pissed off about it.
00:43:18.217 --> 00:43:20.952
It was Quicksilver and Wanda are mutants.
00:43:21.824 --> 00:43:23.431
Quicksilver had to die, not a mutant.
00:43:24.846 --> 00:43:25.731
And it made me so mad.
00:43:25.731 --> 00:43:27.409
I was like wait, you're just going to end Quicksilver.
00:43:27.409 --> 00:43:29.335
What do you call him inhuman?
00:43:30.952 --> 00:43:33.286
They were referred to as inhuman or something like that.
00:43:33.306 --> 00:43:35.771
Why couldn't they use the word mutant?
00:43:35.771 --> 00:43:38.677
They don't ever really say what they are.
00:43:38.677 --> 00:43:44.653
You know, they're just like they're enhanced individuals.
00:43:44.653 --> 00:43:46.918
Yeah, because I know Fox coined the phrase.
00:43:46.918 --> 00:43:49.449
I know what was it?
00:43:49.449 --> 00:43:52.673
Flash, which was DC, had the metahumans.
00:43:52.673 --> 00:43:56.746
Yeah, I don't know if they had anything specific they were calling them.
00:43:56.746 --> 00:44:06.458
Now, the Inhumans were a different thing and, I'll be honest, it was a weird twist on a TV show where one of your main characters never says a goddamn word.
00:44:06.458 --> 00:44:10.896
But the Inhumans TV show wasn't half bad.
00:44:12.447 --> 00:44:13.190
I like the comic books.
00:44:13.210 --> 00:44:13.733
It was solid.
00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:17.554
And that's one thing that irks me about it.
00:44:17.554 --> 00:44:25.925
You have the three factions, you have the mutants, the Inhumans, and then you have the Brick Inhumans or the Enhanced Inhumans or whatever you know.
00:44:25.925 --> 00:44:28.014
You go and look at the characters.
00:44:28.014 --> 00:44:31.255
You look at the characters again at Marvel no, x-men.
00:44:31.255 --> 00:44:35.032
So you don't get like the awesome, like you know the awesome characters over there.
00:44:35.072 --> 00:44:46.164
So you're stuck with the Avengers and who else and then this bothers me also because you think about it and from your X-Men you get to see T'Challa.
00:44:46.164 --> 00:44:47.027
You know what I'm saying?
00:44:47.027 --> 00:44:48.313
God rest Choway Bozeman.
00:44:48.313 --> 00:44:48.793
Oh my gosh.
00:44:50.108 --> 00:44:50.610
Rest in peace.
00:44:50.610 --> 00:44:51.132
To a legend.
00:44:52.487 --> 00:45:00.317
But the thing is, I wanted to see the comic book where Storm becomes T'Challa's wife and they become a power couple and start wrecking shit.
00:45:00.317 --> 00:45:02.532
We are missing pivotal moments here.
00:45:02.532 --> 00:45:07.416
And I'm like, but you know, it's literally like you've been edged.
00:45:07.416 --> 00:45:10.411
It's like, hey, you might get it.
00:45:10.411 --> 00:45:12.492
No, no, we still own this word.
00:45:12.492 --> 00:45:13.766
You can't have those two.
00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:22.451
I would kill, I would so kill, to have a Deadpool-Spider-Man buddy cop movie.
00:45:22.451 --> 00:45:23.574
Oh God, yes.
00:45:24.726 --> 00:45:27.373
That would be the best Tom Holland and Ryan Reynolds.
00:45:28.235 --> 00:45:47.836
Oh, perfect, him being so tied to the X-Men and like, because in the comics Spider-Man is also like, not like super, tapped in primarily because they thought he was a mutant and he was like yeah, no, definitely.
00:45:47.896 --> 00:46:02.692
I got bit by a bug yep, like you sit there, like if you go back, if we go to the marvel animation but the spider-man show, you know when, when deadpool popped up, but the Spider-Man show, you know, when Deadpool popped up on the Spider-Man show, he's all like, yeah, I can't say kill, so I'm going to say that I'm alive with him.
00:46:03.675 --> 00:46:05.878
Oh yeah, when did you get these jets?
00:46:05.878 --> 00:46:07.126
I borrowed them.
00:46:07.126 --> 00:46:10.914
I owe you two jets Stole them from Tony.
00:46:11.054 --> 00:46:19.554
Tony's looking like what the I got another bone to pick because the funny thing is Spider-Man.
00:46:19.554 --> 00:46:21.753
He was a part of the Fantastic Four at one point.
00:46:21.753 --> 00:46:24.112
We're not even going to get to that because we can't have a Fantastic Four.
00:46:24.132 --> 00:46:28.085
That doesn't suck well, supposedly we got one coming.
00:46:29.309 --> 00:46:30.288
We do, I didn't know.
00:46:30.307 --> 00:46:33.070
Spider-Man was part of the Fantastic Four at one point.
00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:38.349
Yes, wouldn't that make them five okay, pause, so what it was.
00:46:39.626 --> 00:46:40.851
It was when Johnny was gone, wasn't it?
00:46:43.047 --> 00:46:43.731
I wasn't even trying.
00:46:43.731 --> 00:46:45.070
I think what it was was Wait hold on.
00:46:45.070 --> 00:47:06.733
Spider-man somehow lost his costume, so they gave him a spare Fantastic Four costume and a paper bag and he swung around with a paper bag on his head wearing a Fantastic 4 costume and they used that as an excuse to team him up with the Fantastic 4 and stuff.
00:47:09.831 --> 00:47:27.237
I think that ruins the whole Marvel side of their shows and stuff, because all their characters are always interconnected with each other, especially with mutants, but when you go watch their shows they're so isolated on an island that they're supposed to interact with just their core people.
00:47:27.927 --> 00:47:28.891
It's much like you said.
00:47:28.891 --> 00:47:34.074
It feels like a lot of their shows are waiting for that moment of like.
00:47:34.074 --> 00:47:36.898
Okay, sony's contract's expired.
00:47:37.425 --> 00:47:46.494
No more mutants we're sitting here like drip-dropping, like okay, so what are you gonna do after?
00:47:46.494 --> 00:47:48.507
What's that?
00:47:48.507 --> 00:47:48.829
What's that?
00:47:48.829 --> 00:47:51.675
What's the big one, doomsday, like?
00:47:51.675 --> 00:47:52.077
What are you gonna?
00:47:52.077 --> 00:47:55.619
Do like are you actually gonna mosh everybody together?
00:47:55.619 --> 00:47:59.266
So now when I watch the next, you know agent and she'llIELD, they bring it back.
00:47:59.266 --> 00:48:02.452
Let's say, they bring Agent of SHIELD back, we have them.
00:48:02.452 --> 00:48:04.492
Or She-Hulk, we get Spider-Woman in there too.
00:48:04.492 --> 00:48:07.913
Like what are we going to do?
00:48:09.811 --> 00:48:10.485
I mean technically.
00:48:11.427 --> 00:48:13.695
Big Hero 6 is in the same universe.
00:48:16.030 --> 00:48:16.411
I like.
00:48:16.632 --> 00:48:17.855
She-Hulk, you bullshit.
00:48:17.855 --> 00:48:18.577
Wait, big Hero 6.
00:48:18.684 --> 00:48:28.090
She-Hulk was not good, I'm looking at the She-Hulk was plagued with bad writing based on Marvel comic publications and Big Hero 6 is on it.
00:48:29.139 --> 00:48:29.463
I like She-Hulk.
00:48:29.463 --> 00:48:37.047
She-hulk had a lot of tongue in cheek and, as she is in her comic book, she was actually really fun.
00:48:37.047 --> 00:48:39.389
I just feel like they just did a lot of things.
00:48:39.389 --> 00:48:40.715
That was like kind of cringy.
00:48:40.715 --> 00:48:53.793
That wasn't like ultimately her character that's my problem, was all the cringe because she and she always was doing fourth wall breaks before deadpool the bad guy was internet trolls of that show.
00:48:54.315 --> 00:49:03.052
Yes, but as I said as I said before, when we had, when you had this argument the other day, who was the bad guy in the first season of daredevil?
00:49:04.896 --> 00:49:12.757
I said wilson fisk and you're like no it was the justice system the justice system is always the bad guy.
00:49:12.757 --> 00:49:18.916
Let's just get that out there because it doesn't matter who the big bad is the justice system, is the bigger bad?
00:49:18.976 --> 00:49:35.856
okay, perfect example Arkham Asylum they have not rehabilitated a single that's not entirely true who comes back better from Harley.
00:49:35.856 --> 00:49:37.146
Quinn is making progress, as she is no longer fucking.
00:49:37.146 --> 00:49:37.284
A joker, entirely true.
00:49:37.284 --> 00:49:37.536
Who comes back better from Harley?
00:49:37.536 --> 00:49:39.972
Harley Quinn is making progress, as she is no longer fucking a Joker.
00:49:40.105 --> 00:49:41.670
She worked there first.
00:49:41.670 --> 00:49:47.755
I was just about to say that she made a lot of loss of progress.
00:49:48.626 --> 00:49:50.452
She's making progress back.
00:49:51.893 --> 00:50:00.414
She literally turned into a villain, a super hot villain, while working in the justice system.
00:50:02.525 --> 00:50:05.248
In Arkham's defense.
00:50:05.248 --> 00:50:17.050
If they haven't broke out, they do get released and they get back into the streets of Gotham where, as we can see, there's not a lot of great opportunity to be on the straight and narrow.
00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:17.724
And if you do go on the straight and narrow, you know there's not a lot of great opportunity to be on the straight and narrow.
00:50:17.724 --> 00:50:24.429
And if you do go on the straight and narrow, you're getting screwed over by either your boss or you're not making enough money Cause you got to live, you got to take care of your family.
00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:28.590
So sometimes you just gotta you know you gotta go grab yourself a gun.
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You know you gotta tell people to get down or lay down.
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I'm going to argue, and I'm going to argue.
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Who has?
00:50:42.829 --> 00:50:45.934
Arkham rehabilitated Zero, absolutely zero fucking people.
00:50:45.954 --> 00:50:46.353
Jack Napier.
00:50:46.394 --> 00:50:50.139
Jack Napier From Batman White Knight Did he?
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They did.
00:50:57.476 --> 00:51:02.527
The Babel In Batman White Knight.
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He is a functioning member of society.
00:51:05.114 --> 00:51:06.438
Batman hates it, but he is a functioning member of society.
00:51:06.458 --> 00:51:06.920
Again, that was like.
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.996
I just really want to punch him like, I just want to punch him in a stupid face.
00:51:11.257 --> 00:51:22.717
He's like waiting, if your success percentage is less than like I don't know 0.2, then you, I don't call it success rate hey, but that's a win, like if you're ever gonna have a win.
00:51:23.038 --> 00:51:28.829
That's the lowercase w right there it's a win.
00:51:29.471 --> 00:51:32.476
If you're gonna have a win, it should like it.
00:51:32.476 --> 00:51:33.396
Better be the joker.
00:51:33.396 --> 00:51:37.853
You better fix that dude of all the people who've been in your system.
00:51:37.853 --> 00:51:39.297
Yeah, you're not going to fix it.
00:51:39.297 --> 00:51:40.811
No, that one you can't.
00:51:41.144 --> 00:51:43.297
Harley Quinn used to work at Arkham bro.
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That's what I'm saying.
00:51:44.625 --> 00:51:47.815
She was a functioning human being, that was normal and sweet.
00:51:48.166 --> 00:51:49.992
Then she went to work at Arguable.
00:51:50.072 --> 00:51:53.572
And got turned up Arguable if I'm not mistaken.
00:51:58.824 --> 00:52:06.755
She's from Gotham, and nobody from Gotham is a normal, rational human being because they keep boiling the water supply are you kidding me?
00:52:06.755 --> 00:52:17.833
That and like if you live in Gotham, let's be honest, if you live in Gotham, Gordon normal person, normal functioning contributor to society.
00:52:18.846 --> 00:52:20.753
Gordon's also a thug that beats people's ass all day.
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I don't know.
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He doesn't.
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He doesn't so does.
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Batman.
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I don't kill.
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Give me a rib cage.
00:52:36.476 --> 00:52:36.958
Wait what?
00:52:40.945 --> 00:52:43.929
I mean, batman may not kill motherfuckers, but he sure do be crippling hoes let me tell you.
00:52:46.653 --> 00:52:52.295
Bovla Hill and Bruce Wayne Wayne Enterprise will take care of your medical bills you know?
00:52:53.898 --> 00:53:12.777
yeah, it's weird Batman blew up all my shit and then Bruce Wayne showed up with a check for three hundred thousand dollars I will say I don't know why that was probably one of my favorite scenes in in the uh the dark knight series was
00:53:12.817 --> 00:53:29.092
when home dude comes up to, uh, lucius fox talking about I know bruce wayne's batman, and he's like okay, he's like well, I'm gonna expose him, unless was when Home Dude comes up to Lucius Fox talking about I know Bruce Wayne's Batman, and he's like okay, he's like well, I'm going to expose him unless I get money, blah, blah, blah, and he goes.
00:53:29.092 --> 00:53:33.483
You really think you're going to blackmail a guy who dresses up and goes out at night and beats the shit out of people all night?
00:53:34.327 --> 00:53:35.371
I'll patch off my own purse.
00:53:35.925 --> 00:53:37.190
Basically, that's what happened.
00:53:38.965 --> 00:53:42.371
He's like well, well, I'm gonna go back to work now all right.
00:53:42.391 --> 00:53:42.592
All right.
00:53:42.592 --> 00:54:03.496
It's like the two people you don't want to confront about their secret identity batman, spider-man oh spider-man, oh my gosh, just what he did to freaking like old buddy in prison oh, when he took kingpin yeah, I'm talking freaking old buddy in prison oh, when he took Kingpin yeah, yes, I'm talking about old buddy when they showed up to his house and he kept telling them to not show up.
00:54:03.496 --> 00:54:12.235
And they showed up at his door and he beat the ever-living shit out of them and said not at my house.
00:54:12.295 --> 00:54:13.244
That's right.
00:54:14.688 --> 00:54:17.744
Forgot about that that was during the Civil War, wasn't?
00:54:17.764 --> 00:54:17.804
it.
00:54:17.885 --> 00:54:25.713
I feel like the majority of the villains in Gotham know Bruce Wayne as Batman, but they're too scared to actually say anything to him.
00:54:25.713 --> 00:54:36.211
Like someone comes up, like some you know villain's, like I know, I figured it out, I figured it out Bruce Wayne's Batman and all the other villains are like yeah, we fucking know, dude, just don't fucking say anything.
00:54:39.045 --> 00:54:40.443
Who can afford this much ways to whip somebody's ass?
00:54:40.443 --> 00:54:41.891
I don't know.
00:54:44.009 --> 00:54:47.815
Actually it looks like it's Marvel Adventures Spider-Man, issue 59.
00:54:49.007 --> 00:54:51.335
So let's switch over to the animated series.
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We all know DC it's.
00:54:54.646 --> 00:54:55.650
DC all day.
00:54:56.405 --> 00:55:00.570
I love Marvel to death, but DC just fucking kills it in their anime.
00:55:00.672 --> 00:55:01.273
Every time.
00:55:02.846 --> 00:55:09.989
Ruby x Justice League Fucking gold I'm going to argue from the jump.
00:55:10.311 --> 00:55:12.099
it's been just superb.
00:55:12.099 --> 00:55:26.231
They started out initially with Justice League, Flashpoint Paradox, which is a perfect starting point for a universe, because A it shows you time is fluid.
00:55:26.231 --> 00:55:30.849
It shows you there's other universes we can tap into.
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That.
00:55:31.856 --> 00:55:38.646
And it also shows you how exactly OP Barry Allen is, which, by the way, Flash is my favorite character from DC.
00:55:39.449 --> 00:55:46.550
He's also Batman's favorite character from DC, but at the same time, Batman says I will take him apart.
00:55:46.570 --> 00:55:49.650
It's also the only reason that we don't have the Justice.
00:55:49.731 --> 00:55:51.730
Lords 100% has.
00:55:51.730 --> 00:56:03.579
If you watch or read Batman, dark Knight or not, dark it's, was it Darkest Night or something, I forget what it's called.
00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:05.889
Dark Knights of Evil.
00:56:07.409 --> 00:56:09.376
You're talking about the metal one.
00:56:11.264 --> 00:56:11.869
Bad Metal.
00:56:11.869 --> 00:56:12.653
That's what it was.
00:56:12.835 --> 00:56:14.123
You're talking about that series?
00:56:14.204 --> 00:56:36.632
Yeah, where he one universe's Batmanman beats the shit out of uh, barry allen straps him to the hood of the batmobile and drives him to the end of the universe and acquires his power to become red death bro oh my god, I want to watch that, I want to read that if they made a series of if they made a series off of that I would to watch that.
00:56:36.652 --> 00:56:37.032
I want to read that.
00:56:37.032 --> 00:56:39.842
If they made a series off of that, I would so watch that.
00:56:40.204 --> 00:56:49.195
Bro, that would be so savage I will throw out and this is just a shout out to one of my favorite YouTube channels Comicstorian.
00:56:49.195 --> 00:56:51.280
Yes, yes, Love the guy.
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.739
He's got a whole series on that, oh yeah, it's so good series on that.
00:56:56.818 --> 00:57:01.146
It's so good when I'm working on something and I need some background noise.
00:57:01.146 --> 00:57:03.634
Throw in some comic story and what's the other channel?
00:57:03.653 --> 00:57:04.577
Rest in Peace, benny.
00:57:05.365 --> 00:57:07.172
The comic story and the other guy.
00:57:07.172 --> 00:57:13.456
Comics Explained Comics Explained what's the most?
00:57:13.496 --> 00:57:16.947
recent Batman series where Batman's just fucking straight yoked.
00:57:16.947 --> 00:57:20.032
Oh poor Batman, he's got a battle axe on his chest what's?
00:57:20.072 --> 00:57:20.492
the most recent.
00:57:20.512 --> 00:57:22.235
Batman series, where Batman's just fucking straight yoked.
00:57:22.255 --> 00:57:26.039
Oh poor Batman, he's got a battle axe on his chest, oh my God, and it's got one of the greatest stories.
00:57:30.047 --> 00:57:30.889
It's essentially what if?
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Batman was poor, absolute Batman.
00:57:33.195 --> 00:57:33.777
That's what it is.
00:57:34.824 --> 00:57:35.824
It's absolute Batman I was watching.
00:57:36.025 --> 00:57:37.135
I was on TikTok the other day and someone did an animated deal about absolute Batman.
00:57:37.135 --> 00:57:37.297
That's what it is.
00:57:37.297 --> 00:57:37.581
It's Absolute Batman.
00:57:37.581 --> 00:57:37.702
I was watching.
00:57:37.702 --> 00:57:42.327
I was on TikTok the other day and someone did like an animated deal about Absolute Batman and it's like he shows up and jokes.
00:57:42.327 --> 00:57:44.809
There you go, he turns around and he's like yo, what the fuck?
00:57:44.809 --> 00:57:46.027
You look like Batman.
00:57:46.027 --> 00:57:47.032
Ate Batman.
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Like one of your legs is the size of my fucking torso.
00:57:52.528 --> 00:58:04.275
Well, it literally is the story of if Batman, his, his dad was a doctor, but he was a failing doctor, and things like that, and he grows up to just become a mechanic.
00:58:04.275 --> 00:58:09.076
But he works out all the fucking time.
00:58:11.346 --> 00:58:13.655
I feel like that Batman only works out.
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He works on cars for maybe two to three hours a day and then just goes straight back to the gym.
00:58:19.545 --> 00:58:21.713
He's got to make his own tools because keep breaking them.
00:58:22.375 --> 00:58:28.414
I would say, and that's why he's got such like brutal tools, he's his bat symbol is really the head of an ax.
00:58:28.414 --> 00:58:35.452
Yeah, so he pulls out like a handle and like, rips the thing off his chest and shoves it on his.
00:58:35.452 --> 00:58:40.213
His little bat horns are essentially knives that he pulls out.
00:58:41.974 --> 00:58:43.971
That Batman is on steroids.
00:58:43.971 --> 00:58:46.614
You cannot tell me any differently.
00:58:47.775 --> 00:58:49.369
He's fighting Bane, wouldn't you?
00:58:49.905 --> 00:58:51.753
That man is straight running cycles.
00:58:51.753 --> 00:58:55.349
It's only one cycle, but it's forever.
00:58:58.416 --> 00:58:59.282
I want to point out something.
00:58:59.282 --> 00:59:00.913
Everybody like this whole conversation.
00:59:00.913 --> 00:59:09.077
We're supposed to be talking about marvel and dc, and the whole time we've been talking about dc, just dc, just that much that much better yes until you get to their movies
00:59:10.606 --> 00:59:35.181
now see, and the thing is I and I wish that dc's movies would take the same route that that marvel's movies have, with the kevin feige approach of, like he has, we have one guy who's in control they just did that'd be nice and honestly, like, for example, the first bit of the animated films, the.
00:59:35.282 --> 01:00:00.947
There was one producer who was in charge of everything, james Tucker, and he put together the Flashpoint Paradox, justice League, war, son of Batman, throne of Atlantis, batman vs Robin, batman, bad Blood, justice League vs the Teen Titans, justice League, dark Teen Titans, the Judas Contract and then Suicide Squad Hell to Pay, which was also co-produced by Sam Liu.
01:00:00.947 --> 01:00:13.608
But like there was this one guy involved with this main story through the animated series Yep, or the animated films, Yep, and that's because Warner Brothers couldn't.
01:00:13.628 --> 01:00:14.231
I'm not gonna lie.
01:00:14.385 --> 01:00:19.992
I came into this totally ready to defend Marvel and everything, but we have been glazing the shit out of DC.
01:00:20.684 --> 01:00:25.411
Because Marvel outside of your core, of the Avengers.
01:00:25.411 --> 01:00:26.766
What else do you?
01:00:26.827 --> 01:00:28.012
have their roster's.
01:00:28.012 --> 01:00:31.028
Not that great if we're being 100% honest.
01:00:31.028 --> 01:00:31.811
If you cut out the.
01:00:31.992 --> 01:00:33.811
X-Men and you cut out all mutants.
01:00:33.811 --> 01:00:34.574
You cut out mutants.
01:00:37.331 --> 01:00:42.152
I mean we do have Deadpool, which does include Wolverine.
01:00:42.474 --> 01:00:45.853
Yep, I mean, think about it.
01:00:45.853 --> 01:00:54.230
You've got Iron man Thor, the entire Avengers lineup can all do their own standalone shit.
01:00:54.972 --> 01:01:01.228
Yes, and they've all been good We've reached a point, though, where we can include mutants.
01:01:01.228 --> 01:01:04.271
It's just they haven't had a chance to do it yet.
01:01:04.791 --> 01:01:13.521
Yeah until Sony either hands it over or no, fox had mutants Fox had the time.
01:01:13.541 --> 01:01:13.945
Mutants oh Fox.
01:01:14.146 --> 01:01:16.034
Sorry, I'm thinking Spider-Man, for some reason.
01:01:16.927 --> 01:01:18.813
But yeah, Fox is just fucking let go.
01:01:18.813 --> 01:01:22.496
But Fox has got rid of their entertainment division.
01:01:22.496 --> 01:01:26.652
And Mouse bought it Mouse got the mutants.
01:01:27.666 --> 01:01:28.369
Mouse has mutants.
01:01:28.369 --> 01:01:35.235
They just haven't had a chance to do anything with it yet why the Mouse has an unlimited budget.
01:01:35.235 --> 01:01:45.833
They got a hold of it and they went cool, deadpool, wolverine that'll be how we introduce mutants and we'll somehow incorporate it further down the line.
01:01:46.193 --> 01:01:54.751
Right, yeah, but they should be able to do it a lot sooner when your budget is yes you can do that.
01:01:54.751 --> 01:02:05.856
They've had so many wasted opportunities where they could have had such great Don't worry, we'll sell six more bottled waters at the theme park and it'll pay for the next movie, right?
01:02:07.097 --> 01:02:09.570
Exactly so.
01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:26.858
Like the Marvel side is like kind of thin, like your characters are thin characters are thin, like I well, especially if you go to and this is what initially spawned mine and uh, jay's conversation was the animated series of marvel vs dc.
01:02:26.858 --> 01:02:34.552
Marvel's animated series, like the, the cartoons and stuff as kids were great.
01:02:34.552 --> 01:02:36.637
We all all remember the original X-Men.
01:02:36.637 --> 01:02:37.737
We all remember the.
01:02:37.778 --> 01:02:38.079
Spider-Men.
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:52.110
But when they started trying to make movies, they started trying to do these animated movies in 3D, rendering anime style.
01:02:52.110 --> 01:03:05.289
Everything was a different person producing it, directing it, storyboarding it like it was just like Kevin Feige, do it right like.
01:03:05.289 --> 01:03:08.170
The worst one I remember was I tried watching.
01:03:08.170 --> 01:03:15.815
There was one with the Punisher and Black Widow and it it hurt my eyes to watch.
01:03:15.815 --> 01:03:18.273
That's how bad it was.
01:03:19.346 --> 01:03:35.918
But the reason why they do that is they keep both of those stories separate, Like you keep your animated world separate from your movie world, and that's the problem with DC is your animation world, you know everything happens.
01:03:35.965 --> 01:03:41.271
I think it's just so dominant that it can't help but bleed into the live action to the movies.
01:03:42.146 --> 01:03:49.547
Well, you can tell whatever story you want in the animation, like you've got more freedom to tell a comic book style story or whatever, but when it comes to, why can't?
01:03:49.547 --> 01:03:54.652
You do that in live action Because you don't have all the characters you can use in a live action.
01:03:54.652 --> 01:03:57.764
You know what I mean.
01:03:57.764 --> 01:04:03.804
Like you, sit there, you run your Avengers, you know Wolverine, you know, pops up as an Avenger every once in a while.
01:04:03.804 --> 01:04:06.052
You got Spider-Man.
01:04:06.052 --> 01:04:09.347
Pops up as an Avenger every once in a while, shoot even.
01:04:09.407 --> 01:04:10.068
Luke Cage is an.
01:04:10.068 --> 01:04:14.570
Avenger but you know, I mean to be fair, like everyone, and their mama is an Avenger.
01:04:14.791 --> 01:04:17.496
Don't just let anyone into the damn Avengers.
01:04:21.130 --> 01:04:21.530
Except Deadpool.
01:04:21.550 --> 01:04:23.054
Oh Punisher they won't let Punisher be an Avenger.
01:04:26.184 --> 01:04:30.333
To be fair, they tried to get Punisher as an Avenger and he shot a guy in the face to say no.
01:04:31.324 --> 01:04:33.072
Cap was like nah, great answer.
01:04:33.072 --> 01:04:35.958
They were like we need Punisher.
01:04:36.025 --> 01:04:39.735
He was like you won't let me play by the rules I want to play by.
01:04:39.735 --> 01:04:41.090
And what rules are that?
01:04:41.090 --> 01:04:42.351
He just shoots a guy?
01:04:43.126 --> 01:04:46.735
Cap looked at this dude like yeah, no, no, I'm against it.
01:04:47.545 --> 01:04:47.927
Cap was like.
01:04:48.009 --> 01:04:50.947
I don't want him Although.
01:04:51.909 --> 01:04:55.577
I'm really sad that Chris Evans has stepped down from Captain America.
01:04:55.577 --> 01:04:59.193
Like I get it, you know, oh shit, I almost dropped my whole fucking mic.
01:05:01.032 --> 01:05:03.791
I liked him reprising his role as the Human Torch.
01:05:04.726 --> 01:05:18.987
Yes, that was fantastic, but I'd really like to see a fucking, because you know, captain America and Cyclops have gone toe-to-toe, yep, and Cyclops fucking ran that shit.
01:05:19.429 --> 01:05:25.014
Yep, of course, and I really want to see that live action Put some respect on Mr Summer's name.
01:05:26.927 --> 01:05:35.027
There's a lot of things I want to see from the X-Men universe and I would love if they, even if they start with a TV show, give me something.
01:05:35.027 --> 01:05:40.440
I need to see Jean Grey, I need to see gene gray, I need to see storm.
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:45.351
I need to see we cyclops hell let me, get havoc but like.
01:05:45.371 --> 01:05:47.836
So what happened for what you're saying?
01:05:47.836 --> 01:05:52.672
Like they had this whole thing with the marvel was having trouble I'm joking on beach.
01:05:54.175 --> 01:05:54.677
So they had.
01:05:54.677 --> 01:06:09.690
They had this one thing this uh, series of comics that came out when marvel was having trouble, called marvel knights, I believe, and marvel knights had like these great retelling of a lot of these stories and like, give a good origin point to whatnot, and that's where I saw like a lot of the um, the rebirth of certain stories.
01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:11.795
Perfect example wolverine versus freaking hulk.
01:06:11.795 --> 01:06:17.394
That, oh my gosh, great stories, outstanding story brilliant.
01:06:17.474 --> 01:06:21.211
I did like the nod to it in Deadpool vs Wolverine.
01:06:22.266 --> 01:06:41.518
Well, I will say, because there are some animated Marvel movies that have slapped, and there is one, I believe, specifically with it's like Marvel, or it's Deadpool vs Hulk, vs Wolverine, and then I think, deadpool versus somebody else, versus Venom.
01:06:44.746 --> 01:07:06.199
They're like two 20-30 minute episode movie things like you know that fight between, like hulk and, uh, wolverine and deadpool just kind of showing up in the middle of it, like I'm sitting here looking at the enemy.
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:07.445
I'm looking at the animation series.
01:07:07.445 --> 01:07:14.353
I'm like like the egg the only bad, the only awesome one was the freaking x-men series.
01:07:14.353 --> 01:07:21.867
So the x-men evolution, x-men animated series and x-men 97 and then wolverine.
01:07:22.047 --> 01:07:30.949
I haven't finished x-men 97 yet, but I've been enjoying it whoa, that's, that's what I see and that's why.
01:07:31.030 --> 01:07:46.351
That's why I feel bad for marvel, because your x-men, like your x-men stories are better than everything else like yeah they are serious, but if they embrace them they'll do better we can be camped at this point.
01:07:46.371 --> 01:07:50.534
They should be able to, because the word mutant was holding back, right?
01:07:50.594 --> 01:07:51.559
yeah, it's just as a.
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.206
It's just a matter of they haven't had a chance to do anything.
01:07:54.206 --> 01:08:01.811
The the most they've done so far is Deadpool, wolverine, past, that they haven't had a chance to truly bring.
01:08:01.972 --> 01:08:07.112
Oh, the Captain Marvel, the Ms Marvel series.
01:08:08.985 --> 01:08:10.291
Oh, technically she is a mutant.
01:08:10.291 --> 01:08:11.295
No, she's an inhuman.
01:08:12.487 --> 01:08:12.969
At the end.
01:08:12.969 --> 01:08:15.438
Was it the Captain Marvel 2?
01:08:15.438 --> 01:08:17.252
The Captain Marvel 2 movie, wasn't it?
01:08:19.244 --> 01:08:20.328
Yeah, I don't know it's kind of forgettable at the end.
01:08:20.328 --> 01:08:20.970
Uh was it, uh was it a captain.
01:08:20.989 --> 01:08:22.073
Marvel 2 the captain marvel 2 movie, wasn't it?
01:08:22.073 --> 01:08:24.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the um, I believe the miss marvel series moved.
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:28.007
It moved into the captain marvel movie.
01:08:28.007 --> 01:08:45.371
And if you remember, at the end of uh, the captain marvel two, when uh, uh, jean 2, when Jean was like Remy or something, first off, remy Lebeau is Gambit.
01:08:46.368 --> 01:08:47.934
I'm trying to remember what her name is.
01:08:47.934 --> 01:08:51.434
Well, she ends up getting tossed into space.
01:08:52.287 --> 01:09:06.029
She ends up getting tossed into space and then she ends up going to one of the little warpholes where she's captured and she's in the mutant universe because she's there with Beast and her mom and she comes to find out that her mom's a mutant.
01:09:06.029 --> 01:09:11.751
So, they had that little tidbit of hey, there's mutants coming.
01:09:12.685 --> 01:09:13.871
A little sidebar.
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I kind of really really want a Channing Tatum Gambit movie.
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Oh, we're going to get one, oh trust me.
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Channing Tatum also really, really, really wants a Channing Tatum Gambit movie.
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I mean yeah that's true.
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That man has been campaigning for that movie to happen for so long.
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And he finally got to play Gambit and he fucking killed it, and you can tell he loved being a part of it.
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Like that's what I like to see when I see an actor in something um.
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Wesley Snipes'.
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Blade.
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Oh oh, my gosh brilliant.
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I gotta say this because there's four guys talking about a bunch of stuff and I want to make this very clear to all those who are listening.
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Understand that we may have valuable opinions and we have opinions that you may not agree with.
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But understand we're not against women characters because I feel like we've been shitting on some women characters.
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I want to make this very clear.
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If a woman character is written correctly and is brilliant, I love it A hundred percent.
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It just seems like some of the ones that just some of my favorite characters are women ones.
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They just some of my favorite characters are women like, like, like I'll be honest, like raven as a character, as a character, absolutely like a lot of them have amazing order stories.
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Dc writes women characters brilliantly in my very well, I feel like marvel sometimes lacks, to kind of let them like oh, I need a big, strong man to help me.
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You're super girl, what are you doing?
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it's like if you don't throw them hands, it's not granted in dc of what's it?
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A bat girl?
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Oh my gosh, even if I can't go out there and fight, guess what?
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I'm gonna become oracle.
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That'd be the meanest fucking hacking thing you ever seen in your fucking life.
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Like like brilliantly devoted characters, let's shoot cat woman.
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He Catwoman.
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Batman is the best detective in the world, but he can't run from that kitty Right.
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At the end of the day, he's not like hey.
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Metaphorically and physically, he's trying to tell her hey, baby, I need you to go straight.
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I need you to go legit, I need you.
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I mean you say that, but who did he have a kid with, huh?
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Well, at the same time he was kind of, you know, Well, it was taken by Raejean Gould's daughter.
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She kind of took them juices.
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Talia O'Gould.
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Put some respect on Talia's name.
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Hey, Talia took them juices.
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Talia said I want you and I like you, hey to be fair.
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She took them twice.
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The choice is yours.
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I don't forget it is.
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You also gotta remember when he did get the opportunity, bruce had a chance to say no.
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He was like.
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You know what I'm here I will not let it down again.
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Batman at the end of the day, is still a man which I'm gonna throw something out.
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This is a personal opinion.
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It was really.
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We're talking about the animated DC.
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I'm going to throw something out.
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This is a personal opinion.
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It was really.
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We're talking about the animated DC.
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It was real aggressive in the Harley Quinn show when she straight up assaults Dick Grayson when he's strapped to a bed and not able to say.
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He's saying no.
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That was assault.
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That was.
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You're not saying no, but your eyes are saying yes, no, no, don't take off that beautifully tight, hold on.
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No, don't do this to me.
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Bat daddy help me.
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He was like oh no.
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Batman came in that room, looked at both of them like really, what are you doing?
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and dad don't get mad at me, batman, I've seen your roster.
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All of them are evil.
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All of them are literally evil that's not entirely true what is it?
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specifically Silver Saint Cloud.
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I know way too much about Batman.
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You guys, let's go for it that's why I brought you this is due to a tumblr post I came across years ago, silver St Cloud, which is someone who Batman had sex with and made come 11 times in one night, and that's in the comics.
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Why Damn Batman?
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I don't know why this is Bruce Wayne, Because you're going to get this justice.
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He's out there busting.
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Which also brings the point of, like I'd get it all for my city.
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So he was doing that all night.
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We can assume that was an all night job, right, right, because he doesn't, because that's what he do, he stay up all night.
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So crime was just happening while you busted nuts, alright.
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I feel bad for that person.
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This is the night.
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Two-Face got to rob the bank because you was busy fucking.
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Think about it.
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Think about it.
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Guy Bruce stays up all night so he was giving it to her all night, to the sun rising.
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She's all like please let me sleep.
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He's like no we still got time.
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You know, it's the same energy he will fight Bane You've got me I've got you for the next three hours.
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I have a question.
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You're in here with me.
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Superman has kids right, Correct?
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I have a question.
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Was this like a Hancock situation?
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Is this going to be the Mallrats question?
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Wait, hold on what's the Mallrats question.
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The mall rats question where he says like, so, like, if if superman came in lois lane, it would just blow her back out like a shotgun, right, right or lunge into the air which that was actually initially, uh, played off of.
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There's a scene where she gets pregnant with Superman's kid and he kicks and like rips through her stomach.
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Oh.
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Oh no.
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Well, I mean Superman Stunned him you won't get this justice.
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Hey, superman symbol stands for hope.
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You better hope you don't die.
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You better hope you don't die.
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You better hope they can fix your ass.
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You feel bad for the man because he probably knows.
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No, no, you gotta finish outside, damn.
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Now leads me to my second part of the question.
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When Hulk smashes, that's also brought up in Mallrats.
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God damn it.
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I've seen that movie and it's like subconsciously coming out is everything green or like?
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does everything grow the thing, the thing is his thing is his junk made of rock yeah, yeah, but oh, did he ever?
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did he ever have?
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No, because he did.
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He got turned.
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Ben got turned back to human one time, didn't he?
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He went back to human and he was able to have a kid.
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Oh, you know, he was smashing for like a solid 48 hours when he turned back human Right.
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This is another random comic fun fact.
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The Thing and the Hulk meet up once a year to beat the shit out of each other because they're the only people that can hang with each other when it comes to taking damage.
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He said I need to fight and Nova, freaking Hulk's like to fight Supernova.
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Is it Supernova?
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Yeah, Supernova.
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Yeah, until Century.
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I'm sorry.
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He likes fighting.
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Century.
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Oh, I was gonna say until it was World War Hulk, and he beat the hell out of Nova.
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Which also is funny how Hulk's powers comes directly from hell.
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But we'll get on that later.
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I mean that's none of my business.
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That's none of my business at all.
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Funny how Constantine never brings that shit up.
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It ain't none of my business all.
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Funny how Constantine never brings that shit up.
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It ain't none of my business.
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He gonna beat my ass and beat everybody else.
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Constantine, you've seen some shit.
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He, like you know.
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Does that make Bruce Banner Doomguy?
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No, he just gets angry and just starts destroying everything, and his power comes from hell.
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No, because Doomguy is actually the grandson of BJ Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein.
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Oh, Jesus Christ.
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Stop it.
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Yes, he really is.
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Stop it Are you serious, that's canon.
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That's canon, that's canon.
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Hold on.
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Does that mean that Doom takes place in a world where the Nazis were like in charge for a long time?
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yeah, that would make perfect sense.
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Actually, that's great that changes so much of like the Doom lore you're welcome Also.
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Canon.
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Doom guy is married to Isabella from Animal Crossing.
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Alright, that's another episode, you're welcome.
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Nope, nope, we gotta do this.
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Another episode.
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Nope, you're gonna have me.
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You're not putting me in a tizzy.
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It's canon, I'm episode, you're gonna have me.
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You're not putting me in a tizzy, I have enough.
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You know how my age is.
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It's canon.
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I'm sorry.
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They're married.
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You're welcome, that'll be another episode.
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Let's get back to the DC.
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You are not gonna play me in Swiss Borrow?
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I mean, Batman Hush was a great one.
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I mean, Batman Hush was a great one, you had the death of.
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Superman, I love that hard steer back towards it Like it's so good.
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I really love how they did.
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Death of Superman and then the Reign of Superman.
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That's true, there's one thing I want to say that DC, dc has that it bothers me personally.
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Our strongest combatant or, I guess, our strongest hero in DC Superman you know what I'm saying.
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I mean arguable arguable.
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Of course, you got a couple of people that contend every now and again because due to like circumstances, or just they come in and out of the universe?
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he's not really lobo's not relatively not stronger than superman.
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I mean every time they fight, batman puts him in his place because he had prep time and I love that I'm just saying that.
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That's what.
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I'm going to pause you right here.
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I refer I get into this argument all the time I refer to one moment in the comics.
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I believe it is.
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It's a Batman comic.
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I believe it's part of the Batman hush series where there's a point where poison ivy has essentially like taken over superman okay okay, batman shows up with uh catwoman.
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Okay, they're trying to catwoman's trying to find poison ivy.
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Batman's trying to distract uh superman.
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So super batman essentially kidnaps lois lane, takes her to the top of a building, trying to distract Superman.
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So Batman essentially kidnaps Lois Lane, takes her to the top of a building and throws her the fuck off and it snaps Superman out of his mind.
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Shit from Poison Ivy to go save Lois Lane.
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And at the end of the comic they ask him why did you do that?
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And he said deep down I know Clark is a good person and deep down I'm not.
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Ain't that deep.
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You beat everybody's ass every night.
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The problem comes that Batman is willing to do the things to win.
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Superman is the Boy Scout.
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He's not willing to do those things to win.
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Superman is the Boy Scout, he's not willing to do those things.
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Now you can have all these Elseworlds stories like injustice and things like that, but put regular Superman versus regular Batman.
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Every single time they fight, batman comes out on top.
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Because Superman won't use his full power to because superman won't do it.
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He's just not that guy like and go back to injustice, like he punched a hole through.
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Joker like yo, you killed my wife.
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You're done, like you.
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There's no ifs, ands and buts about it, you know you killed my baby, so, but here's my problem, though.
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Here's my particular issue superman, and this is why I'm not a fan of Superman.
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Superman is weak-minded, and I'm going to say this why?
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Literally how many things have taken over Superman and turned him evil?
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At least three.
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At least three.
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Thank you, Starro.
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Mr Mix-a-pedalick Fucked with him for a long time.
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He's weak to magic.
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He's weak to magic.
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He's weak to so all these things.
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You're the most powerful being that we have, but everybody can tap into your shit.
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How often does Batman put it under hypnosis?
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Or put it into a stupor the last time someone put him under hypnosis, it activated Zoranar, which turned him more ruthless and psychotic.
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It's case like.
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So zuranar is a backup plan for batman, where, if he ever loses control of his body, he has subconsciously implanted a secondary uh personality.
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That's just a psycho.
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I'm sorry, batman is just broken, okay, yeah he's a horrible human being.
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No, I meant like his character is just broken.
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It's OP.
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Oh yeah 100%.
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He basically attached himself from freaking Naruto.
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But I'm leaving that alone.
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The thing is their entire brand is built on Batman it's Detective Comics.
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I was gonna say I was gonna answer Tim's question about the Superman thing.
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There is one stupidly OP Superman out there and that's.
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Superboy Prime.
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Yes.
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Remember, the reason I say that he's like the ultimate Superman is because he's from our universe.
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He's from here, this plane of existence, and he's been brought universe.
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He's from here, this plane of existence, and he's been brought into the DC universe, so he's not affected by Kryptonite or, you know, the Red Sons or anything like that so he's not.
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he doesn't have the weaknesses of Superman.
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So when it took three Supermans that beat his ass and he was still handling them three on one, Like they had their freaking plot, armor was.
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They beat his ass all the way across the universe till they was able to beat him into the source wall and that's where he remained until the metal, the DC metal storyline happened.
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I think you've just kind of pointed it out to me why the Marvel live action movies are so much better.
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You can't film that shit, you can't film that live action you say that, but the first Avengers movie was them fighting aliens invading from space through a wormhole that opened up in the middle of new york city in new york city, thank you.
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So, like the unfavorable, for some odd reason they can't put in the context.
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You can draw some intergalactic wild shit and give me depth through animation.
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When you try to make me believe it as a reality, they make it look so stupid and we lose focus of what we're really trying to be in.
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I'm a, I have nhd.
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I'm really bad at poking holes of things.
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I can see that's like bullshit.
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It's like, oh, you did a terrible job developing that.
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But when you put new york, okay, that gives me a little bit of grounding, that gives me reality, that gives me turf.
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That's what dc is great at, marvel not so much.
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They want to go fly off of the handle with a lot of shit and sometimes it's like, oh, we lose context, that I, I lose care that's what I just want to say, that marvel, though, we haven't lost context.
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in the big picture movie wise yeah which?
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But in dc big picture movie wise they have no way, they have no context of like, well, how do we show people in space?
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What do you?
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They've been doing it for fucking years, yeah.
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Green.
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Lantern like.
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Granted, green Lantern was a flop, but majority of that movie had a fuck ton of space in it.
01:25:35.202 --> 01:25:38.527
He is a space character he also had spandex suits too Like.
01:25:38.527 --> 01:25:43.149
Dc, you can do so.
01:25:43.149 --> 01:25:45.466
Okay, so back to.
01:25:45.565 --> 01:25:47.411
I have a quick comics question.
01:25:47.411 --> 01:25:58.210
And this is just so, everybody knows that Superman's suit comes from the blankets that were used to, like you know, send him to Earth, right?
01:25:58.210 --> 01:26:01.409
Where does the black suit come from?
01:26:01.409 --> 01:26:04.046
Didn't they make it no.
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:07.507
No, because of the shipmates we all love the black suit come from, didn't they make it?
01:26:07.507 --> 01:26:07.478
No?
01:26:07.408 --> 01:26:12.283
No, because of the ship we all love the black suit Superman after he's died and he's come back Dope looking suit.
01:26:12.283 --> 01:26:13.027
Where does it come from?
01:26:13.360 --> 01:26:14.164
He gets it in the ship.
01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:22.284
Because that's what some of the yeah, somebody had it, because I think that's what the regular uniform was for their military, wasn't it?
01:26:23.261 --> 01:26:24.525
Yeah, because what Zor-El had?
01:26:24.525 --> 01:26:28.146
Yeah, zor-el, that's Zor-El.
01:26:32.021 --> 01:26:33.443
Crazy motherfucker.
01:26:33.462 --> 01:26:35.423
Zed, no Zed, yeah, lord Zed.
01:26:35.444 --> 01:26:35.864
Zed yeah, lord.
01:26:35.885 --> 01:26:36.865
Zed the Power Rangers.
01:26:37.725 --> 01:26:40.387
Not that Zed, not that one.
01:26:40.448 --> 01:26:43.250
No but, yeah, it's Zod, it's not.
01:26:43.250 --> 01:26:44.110
Thank you, general.
01:26:44.751 --> 01:26:47.313
Well, yeah, on the station On their ship.
01:26:47.412 --> 01:26:52.317
I was wondering Let me burn, yeah, I'm sitting here, just wondering how long this shit's going to go on for.
01:26:52.317 --> 01:26:52.796
I'm going to wait.
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:56.086
Don't let us burn.
01:26:56.086 --> 01:26:57.670
Yeah, but the suit were black.
01:26:57.670 --> 01:27:02.787
It's on the ship Like know was brought back to life.
01:27:02.787 --> 01:27:04.189
He got it from.
01:27:04.310 --> 01:27:06.113
He got well, like the blue beetle show.
01:27:06.113 --> 01:27:12.127
Uh, our movie did a great job at doing like it was really you know fantastical things it was great.
01:27:12.148 --> 01:27:13.212
That was a great movie.
01:27:13.212 --> 01:27:18.503
Like I like that character, like that character was is a recent, recently new character.
01:27:18.503 --> 01:27:19.865
I think what in the tens?
01:27:20.006 --> 01:27:22.047
I mean I mean Suicide Squad.
01:27:22.047 --> 01:27:25.171
They had Starro, they did.
01:27:25.171 --> 01:27:29.582
I'm saying like and those were.
01:27:29.604 --> 01:27:31.067
TV shows why?
01:27:31.108 --> 01:27:31.788
do they have movies?
01:27:31.788 --> 01:27:34.886
Suicide Squad was a movie, oh yeah no, that one was a movie.
01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:37.127
But why do the majority of their movies.
01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:38.565
Only Beetle was a movie.
01:27:38.565 --> 01:27:39.944
It was just a short movie.
01:27:39.944 --> 01:27:43.746
Yeah, straight to the century, it would have been straight to TV been straight.
01:27:43.765 --> 01:27:48.426
I'm just saying you've named off two though that were good because I okay, okay, I see, I see why.
01:27:48.787 --> 01:27:58.355
So the reason I think my theory is this it's like all right, you got james gunn who's in charge of the dc movie universe.
01:27:58.355 --> 01:28:00.944
Now I guess you can say well, yeah now yeah.
01:28:01.625 --> 01:28:08.908
so before, like if you, when you did your own standalone movie like a Blue Beetle standalone movie yeah it was.
01:28:08.908 --> 01:28:10.908
You know you made a good movie.
01:28:10.908 --> 01:28:16.847
You're just Blue Beetle and whoever, maybe somebody might show up, maybe not, you never know, it's just a Blue Beetle movie.
01:28:16.847 --> 01:28:18.585
Same thing with Suicide Squad 8.
01:28:18.585 --> 01:28:25.550
Suicide Squad 8, you're going on a mission, go fuck shit up and hopefully you might not die, but you're probably going to die.
01:28:25.550 --> 01:28:28.880
That's why it's called a suicide mission.
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.005
It's a standalone thing.
01:28:31.005 --> 01:28:36.748
But when you try to do the whole Batman, wonder Woman, Superman and we're going to combine them to make them the Justice League.
01:28:38.702 --> 01:28:40.609
I want the Justice League Space Center.
01:28:42.823 --> 01:28:44.309
Just give me the Hall of Justice first.
01:28:44.309 --> 01:28:46.282
True.
01:28:46.301 --> 01:28:47.867
Technically they did have that when.
01:28:50.081 --> 01:28:51.545
I mean the CW-verse.
01:28:51.545 --> 01:28:52.828
Yeah, the.
01:28:52.849 --> 01:28:53.350
CW.
01:28:53.350 --> 01:28:54.764
I'm talking about the movies.
01:28:54.764 --> 01:28:56.269
Why do the movies suck so bad?
01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:57.625
Because there was no.
01:28:59.762 --> 01:29:03.966
I said it once, I'll say it again the reason why is because they have no direction up until now.
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:12.314
And DCWB did the whole Ford model of managing 35 committees to make one decision.
01:29:13.900 --> 01:29:35.783
And, honestly, as much as we love the Snyder Cut, if we could have all Snyder cuts I would not complain if you told me every DC movie that comes out will now be four hours long.
01:29:35.783 --> 01:29:49.585
No, I'm being so for real though, because A that man should only make four hour long movies, because look what he did.
01:29:49.585 --> 01:30:00.086
It was so much story in that movie, so much story that when Whedon came through we didn't have a clue what was going on.
01:30:00.086 --> 01:30:04.667
And then come to find out there was a fully fleshed out story going on.
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:20.131
A whole fleshed out story going on a whole flesh out story, like it really multiple story lines coming back and dovetailing like it's playing, while we randomly ended up in like uh, eastern european village, like why are we here?
01:30:20.131 --> 01:30:43.189
You know, starter cut explain how we got here, you know so like if you came and told me like every DC movie from now on is going to be like Zack Snyder is going to be in charge of the universe and every movie is going to be four hours long, I would be like great when do we start?
01:30:44.149 --> 01:30:52.182
and how they introduce, like you didn't go back and just do origin after origin after origin either yeah, but like fuck it, dude, we don't need.
01:30:52.302 --> 01:30:57.118
I don't need to see Batman's parents dying for the 50th time yeah, right what are you talking?
01:30:57.137 --> 01:30:57.260
about.
01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:09.847
We've seen Uncle Ben die a hundred times bro, if I see those pearls fall one more time or freaking spaceship crashing in Earth and shit, like we already know, bro, if I see those pearls fall one more time, one more time.
01:31:09.847 --> 01:31:11.430
Or a freaking spaceship crashing in Earth and shit.
01:31:11.470 --> 01:31:12.612
Like we already know we're this deep, Just tell us.
01:31:12.612 --> 01:31:20.097
I will say this about the new Spider-Mans with Tom Holland Thank you for not making us fucking sit through Uncle Ben dying again.
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:23.613
Dramatic enough and personal opinion.
01:31:23.613 --> 01:31:26.507
I know this is probably going to get me clowned on personal opinion.
01:31:26.507 --> 01:31:28.725
A lot of people clown the scene.
01:31:28.725 --> 01:31:30.823
I don't think it's that bad.
01:31:30.823 --> 01:31:32.146
The Martha scene.
01:31:32.146 --> 01:31:42.743
Because, it is one of those things that it's never really brought up.
01:31:42.743 --> 01:31:44.760
Both of their mothers are named Martha.
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:52.082
Like it's never really brought up, but like both of their mothers are named Martha, yeah okay like it's never brought up but here's my problem, so make it a pivotal point like
01:31:52.082 --> 01:32:01.920
said like randomly because, let's be real, if you're in the middle of a fight and someone said protect your mom, and said her by like her name, first name, you'd be like hold up.
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.487
What the fuck did you just say yeah how do you know my mom's name?
01:32:06.302 --> 01:32:14.739
exactly, and that's what happens but, but it's so dumb, yeah, but that's a real life situation.
01:32:16.551 --> 01:32:22.087
Oh yeah, a real life situation is a guy in an exosuit fighting a fucking alien very real.
01:32:22.087 --> 01:32:23.425
I'm so glad you brought that up.
01:32:23.425 --> 01:32:24.502
Thank you for grounding me.
01:32:27.345 --> 01:32:27.827
Okay, ridley.
01:32:27.827 --> 01:32:37.583
Honestly, what bothers me more than anything is, like the real reason for those two fighting in that particular premise was dumb Batman should have never got coaxed into that fight at all.
01:32:37.583 --> 01:32:38.265
That's stupid.
01:32:38.747 --> 01:32:41.819
Batman killed a lot of people in that movie.
01:32:42.060 --> 01:33:01.789
So from what I've heard, so from what I've heard, so from what I've heard in the things that did get cut from the Snyder version, evidently there's evidently a moment or it was either that, or from the Batman v Superman there's a moment where Batman essentially cucks Superman.
01:33:03.153 --> 01:33:03.720
What he?
01:33:03.761 --> 01:33:17.365
essentially fucks Lois Lane, and superman is watching from outside like with his x-ray vision yeah, like that was supposed to be the thing, that like set them off lois.
01:33:17.466 --> 01:33:21.113
No, don't take that bad justice did he have a chair with him?
01:33:21.113 --> 01:33:24.773
Did he have a chair?
01:33:24.792 --> 01:33:25.113
with him.
01:33:25.113 --> 01:33:29.056
Yeah, but there was no corner to put it in.
01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:29.885
That ain't right.
01:33:29.885 --> 01:33:31.159
Can you imagine that in a scene that's in a theater?
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:32.404
There's no way that's real.
01:33:32.604 --> 01:33:33.467
There's no way.
01:33:35.623 --> 01:33:36.587
That might be rule 34.
01:33:38.503 --> 01:33:45.867
You say that like there's not actual footage of Nicolas Cage in a Superman costume, so like let's not say it's not real.
01:33:47.230 --> 01:33:50.509
I mean, we did finally get it.
01:33:50.661 --> 01:33:53.904
I have seen that glorious mullet on Superman.
01:33:57.493 --> 01:34:01.087
I mean we did kind of get Nick Cage as Superman.
01:34:05.225 --> 01:34:05.324
God.
01:34:05.524 --> 01:34:08.051
I would pay so much money for that movie to never be made.
01:34:08.051 --> 01:34:11.930
I would pay so much money for that movie to be made.
01:34:12.701 --> 01:34:18.015
I don't know if you're familiar with our show, but we're kind of fans.
01:34:18.537 --> 01:34:19.380
He's got his own category.
01:34:19.460 --> 01:34:26.774
As much as I love Nicolas Cage, one thing I don't need him being is the symbol of peace and justice.
01:34:28.082 --> 01:34:29.126
Well, he was a symbol of justice.
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:31.908
Why he's about to be Spider-Man Noir.
01:34:33.463 --> 01:34:34.270
See, that's great.
01:34:34.270 --> 01:34:39.202
That makes more sense, which I'll be honest, a lot of people are not prepared for Spider-Man Noir Like.
01:34:39.783 --> 01:34:41.048
Spider-Man Noir kills people.
01:34:41.701 --> 01:34:42.806
I'm just thinking he's going to be.
01:34:42.806 --> 01:34:47.167
I'm to say they're going to think he's all like happy-go-lucky and shit and it's like nah.
01:34:47.420 --> 01:34:53.686
I would like to remind everyone that Nick Cage was all about justice as the Ghost Rider.
01:34:53.686 --> 01:34:56.804
Yeah, forget about that.
01:34:56.925 --> 01:34:58.140
He was dishing out justice.
01:34:58.140 --> 01:34:59.806
He did pee fire in that movie.
01:34:59.806 --> 01:35:00.127
See.
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:03.512
Ghost Rider was cinematic.
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:04.421
That is amazing.
01:35:04.442 --> 01:35:13.460
Ghost Rider was cinematic more you need so let's not act like you know, nick Cage, can't you know, go out there and dispense some justice?
01:35:15.646 --> 01:35:21.382
I wouldn't want to see him as Superman for one reason because Superman always kind of just like he.
01:35:21.382 --> 01:35:23.523
How do I say he's tender?
01:35:23.523 --> 01:35:25.248
No, I can't do that.
01:35:25.248 --> 01:35:27.024
No, I am too good to do that.
01:35:27.024 --> 01:35:28.469
I believe in the good things.
01:35:31.056 --> 01:35:31.479
I don't care.
01:35:31.823 --> 01:35:45.592
I need to see Nick Cage as Superman like can you imagine this scene that Justice League is about to roll out but Superman is like hold on, and he puts on low rider, and you know they're sitting there, y'all getting hyped up and he's like hold on.
01:35:45.613 --> 01:35:46.015
He puts on Lowrider.
01:35:46.015 --> 01:35:46.918
They're sitting there getting hyped up.
01:35:46.918 --> 01:35:48.484
He's like let's go.
01:35:49.661 --> 01:35:52.250
Everybody just jumps out of the watchtower.
01:35:54.363 --> 01:35:57.747
They're all getting into the invisible jet and they're playing Lowrider.
01:35:59.922 --> 01:36:00.672
Lowrider.
01:36:02.322 --> 01:36:03.922
Wonder Woman's up there flying.
01:36:03.922 --> 01:36:09.206
Everybody else is nodding their head and like, yeah, feeling this getting hype, I don't care.
01:36:11.327 --> 01:36:16.845
I fucking love Nick Cage and I need to see Nick Cage as Superman, not CGI.
01:36:16.845 --> 01:36:17.952
Nick Cage Superman.
01:36:18.917 --> 01:36:19.140
Right.
01:36:20.082 --> 01:36:25.148
I need full-blown Nick Cage cinematic masterpiece Superman.
01:36:26.182 --> 01:36:28.530
Who plays the Batman opposite of that Superman.
01:36:34.512 --> 01:36:34.939
Why not?
01:36:36.586 --> 01:36:39.608
why don't we just make it face-off, but DC.
01:36:40.341 --> 01:36:43.988
I swear to God, if we put Travolta as Batman, I take it back.
01:36:43.988 --> 01:36:44.472
I want that movie.
01:36:44.472 --> 01:36:44.707
Travolta Batman.
01:36:44.707 --> 01:36:44.619
Oh my God.
01:36:44.619 --> 01:36:44.934
If we put Travolta as Batman, I take it back.
01:36:44.934 --> 01:36:45.304
I want that movie.
01:36:46.100 --> 01:36:50.788
Travolta, Batman, oh my God yes, travolta.
01:36:50.788 --> 01:36:51.029
Batman.
01:36:51.029 --> 01:36:55.587
Travolta, now I want now Travolta, so bald head Travolta.
01:36:57.220 --> 01:37:00.365
Bald head beer guy oh my God.
01:37:01.841 --> 01:37:02.907
So that's old man Batman.
01:37:02.907 --> 01:37:04.595
Now give me Clooney, give me Clooney.
01:37:04.614 --> 01:37:05.658
So that's Old man Batman.
01:37:05.658 --> 01:37:06.721
Give me Clooney.
01:37:09.028 --> 01:37:15.724
You want Clooney still, so he can look at you with the eyebrows, but the thing is it has to be filmed.
01:37:15.724 --> 01:37:20.909
The same way Face Off was filmed, when you give them a script and they go.
01:37:20.909 --> 01:37:23.072
I'm just going to improvise all my stuff.
01:37:24.033 --> 01:37:25.173
So we get John Woo.
01:37:26.796 --> 01:37:27.537
We get John Woo.
01:37:27.537 --> 01:37:32.552
John Woo's not in control.
01:37:34.965 --> 01:37:36.733
We're going to film the ending scene first.
01:37:36.733 --> 01:37:37.859
They're sitting and diving.
01:37:37.859 --> 01:37:44.649
You can see a Toronto Batman diving, throwing batarangs at dogs flying by.
01:37:44.649 --> 01:37:47.744
Slow motion batarangs at dogs flying by.
01:37:47.744 --> 01:37:51.675
Slow motion batarangs Grappling hook.
01:37:54.826 --> 01:37:56.444
We have gone down a rabbit hole.
01:37:57.313 --> 01:37:57.695
We have.
01:37:57.695 --> 01:37:58.545
We're a little off track.
01:37:59.595 --> 01:38:00.662
It just shows, how great DC is.
01:38:00.682 --> 01:38:01.527
Welcome to the show.
01:38:01.527 --> 01:38:05.003
Again, I'm trying to point out how great DC is.
01:38:05.024 --> 01:38:07.832
You can take these ideas and'm like yo in a dc universe.
01:38:08.094 --> 01:38:24.229
Yeah, until we get to the movies I feel like we're gonna need to do a whole second episode just for marvel because we've just been glazing the shit out of dc because we're all fans like marvel would be like 10 minutes whoa, whoa, whoa
01:38:24.429 --> 01:38:25.372
I wouldn't say it's 10 minutes.
01:38:25.820 --> 01:38:27.628
Now we're being a little overreached now.
01:38:27.628 --> 01:38:31.027
Yeah, I may be a DC fanboy.
01:38:31.921 --> 01:38:35.086
When I'm a DC fanboy but at the same time Marvel has a lot of things to offer.
01:38:35.086 --> 01:38:45.085
They just can't do animated anywhere near as great as DC and I feel like their stories in comparison sometimes can be hollow, it can be shallow, I should should say, in comparison to the depth that you get from dc.
01:38:45.085 --> 01:38:53.753
Like you go, you go through, true, like emotional discord dealing with dc marvel, like, oh, I'm a little sad, oh, here comes the happy.
01:38:53.753 --> 01:38:54.476
Yep, there we go.
01:38:54.637 --> 01:38:58.546
Time that there's a reason for that.
01:38:58.546 --> 01:39:10.409
Where a lot of dc's characters are normal people who ascend to some kind of position, Superman is an exception.
01:39:10.409 --> 01:39:20.211
In Marvel, it's a lot of god-tier people lowering down to help the mortal man.
01:39:20.211 --> 01:39:27.672
You have Thor and you've got these people with these crazy powers we're talking about.
01:39:27.779 --> 01:39:30.502
Captain America started as a normal guy.
01:39:30.721 --> 01:39:32.286
Yeah, he's the one guy.
01:39:34.110 --> 01:39:36.490
Tony Stark normal dude.
01:39:36.490 --> 01:39:41.485
No, first of all, he doesn't have any powers.
01:39:41.485 --> 01:39:44.654
His power is the exact same power as Bruce Wayne's money.
01:39:44.654 --> 01:39:45.006
No, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't have any powers.
01:39:44.963 --> 01:39:45.644
His power is the exact same power as Bruce Wayne's Money.
01:39:45.644 --> 01:39:50.488
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't know any martial arts.
01:39:50.488 --> 01:39:58.270
First of all, Iron man has an intelligence that is insane.
01:39:58.270 --> 01:40:00.582
It may not be super human.
01:40:01.145 --> 01:40:01.967
So does Stephen.
01:40:01.988 --> 01:40:02.368
Hawking.
01:40:02.390 --> 01:40:02.489
So is.
01:40:04.396 --> 01:40:04.918
Boom Girlking.
01:40:04.918 --> 01:40:06.664
So is Boom Girl and Devil Dinosaur, but we'll get on that later.
01:40:08.149 --> 01:40:12.506
I mean you gotta remember Tony Hawk is part of Illuminati too.
01:40:14.143 --> 01:40:14.444
He is.
01:40:16.103 --> 01:40:16.704
Did you say Tony?
01:40:16.744 --> 01:40:19.431
Hawk, tony Stark.
01:40:19.452 --> 01:40:20.354
That's what I was gonna say.
01:40:20.354 --> 01:40:21.947
Kid Flippin got something to do with it.
01:40:23.823 --> 01:40:24.104
More Tony.
01:40:24.145 --> 01:40:25.448
Hawks sitting there going wait what.
01:40:27.405 --> 01:40:28.673
So, here's what we're thinking about.
01:40:29.301 --> 01:40:32.050
Here's what we're thinking about sending the Hulk to a different planet.
01:40:32.050 --> 01:40:34.386
What do you think, Tony Hawk?
01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:37.063
Will you please?
01:40:37.103 --> 01:40:38.328
stop doing 900s.
01:40:40.341 --> 01:40:41.246
Yeah, let's do it.
01:40:42.280 --> 01:40:43.707
Why do y'all keep coming to me.
01:40:45.060 --> 01:40:47.007
Not even just that he finds out.
01:40:47.007 --> 01:40:52.724
It's like so now outside Dante's house is going to be a bunch of people with skateboards, beating to death Like Tony.
01:40:52.764 --> 01:40:56.243
Hawk's going to show up to my house and he's going to be like, hey, is John Paul home?
01:40:56.243 --> 01:40:58.149
And I'm going to be like sure.
01:40:58.149 --> 01:41:02.425
And I'm just going to hear him getting smacked over the head with a fucking skateboard.
01:41:02.425 --> 01:41:03.646
You know too much, bitch.
01:41:04.587 --> 01:41:06.570
Ah, ah, why the truck's so hard, Ah.
01:41:08.533 --> 01:41:09.215
Loose the book Ah.
01:41:11.001 --> 01:41:13.949
I'll play kick push in the background.
01:41:13.949 --> 01:41:16.926
Coast, kick push, coast.
01:41:17.903 --> 01:41:20.865
And he's just gonna roll out of here and be like bye, tony Hawk.
01:41:23.402 --> 01:41:24.287
Only you can stay alive.
01:41:24.742 --> 01:41:39.632
Iron man does not have, like normal people, intelligence, like he is one of the three smartest people in the entire Marvel Universe, like that man is not normal okay and if I shot him without a?
01:41:39.632 --> 01:42:04.877
Suit he would die sorry, that's very true, but if we're talking about intelligence, you're saying that, like he can't create a suit out of fucking paper clips and rocks in the middle of the desert he did it in a cave he did it in a cave if you shot him in the head, yeah, you might have a chance yeah, but if you shot a lot of people in the head, you'd have a chance.
01:42:04.788 --> 01:42:05.510
Yeah, but if you shoot you shot a lot of people in the head, you'd have a chance.
01:42:05.510 --> 01:42:06.471
Yeah.
01:42:06.471 --> 01:42:10.823
But if you shoot Tony Stark in the chest, I mean, his freaking nanosuit's gonna come in and stop it.
01:42:11.003 --> 01:42:14.842
So I mean, you shoot Superman, nothing's gonna happen.
01:42:14.842 --> 01:42:16.328
You shoot Tony Stark, he's dead.
01:42:18.001 --> 01:42:18.724
Yeah, you shoot.
01:42:18.804 --> 01:42:19.104
Black.
01:42:19.125 --> 01:42:19.627
Widow, she's dead.
01:42:20.859 --> 01:42:22.086
Yeah, shoot him in the head.
01:42:22.086 --> 01:42:24.712
There's another normal person you shoot.
01:42:24.733 --> 01:42:27.065
Captain America, you shoot the Green Lantern in the face he's dead.
01:42:28.161 --> 01:42:32.087
No, no, no, Captain can take a bullet or two, he can survive.
01:42:32.087 --> 01:42:33.390
Captain can take a bullet or two.
01:42:33.980 --> 01:42:35.567
I don't know if he can take a bullet.
01:42:35.567 --> 01:42:36.510
He wears helmets.
01:42:37.841 --> 01:42:38.786
He does wear helmets.
01:42:41.167 --> 01:42:53.949
I mean, I'm just saying you say there's all these extraordinary people, but the vast majority of them, with the exception of Bruce Banner and Thor, are pretty much dudes.
01:42:55.123 --> 01:42:55.465
You know what?
01:42:55.465 --> 01:42:58.604
And also, this is another thing that got me too, Do you?
01:42:58.625 --> 01:43:00.105
guys know about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur.
01:43:00.105 --> 01:43:01.043
That's a neutral term.
01:43:01.043 --> 01:43:01.506
Fuck y'all.
01:43:02.828 --> 01:43:03.112
True?
01:43:03.112 --> 01:43:04.984
Do y'all know about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur?
01:43:05.305 --> 01:43:06.144
Nope, tell us about it?
01:43:06.284 --> 01:43:10.784
Uh-uh, there's a full-blown show that they ended that you need to watch.
01:43:10.784 --> 01:43:13.242
It is brilliant, it is.
01:43:13.242 --> 01:43:15.699
And her brain on and this is canon.
01:43:15.699 --> 01:43:17.527
She is smarter than Tony Stark.
01:43:17.527 --> 01:43:23.962
She is the most intelligent being in all of Marvel freaking universe Brilliant.
01:43:23.962 --> 01:43:26.640
Which caveat she is the most intelligent being in all of Marvel universe brilliant.
01:43:28.469 --> 01:43:30.439
The true smartest person is Reed Richards.
01:43:33.167 --> 01:43:35.109
I think they said that she was a competition with Reed Richards.
01:43:35.493 --> 01:43:39.827
To be honest with you, I believe she is in competition, but he is the smartest as of.
01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:40.984
I mean to be fair.
01:43:40.984 --> 01:43:44.426
It doesn't matter, squirtle can 1v1, all of them DC or Marvel.
01:43:44.426 --> 01:43:44.898
I mean Squirtle has beat Thanos.
01:43:44.898 --> 01:43:45.488
So I mean to be fair, it doesn't matter, squirrel Girl can 1v1, all of them DC or Marvel.
01:43:46.381 --> 01:43:47.783
I mean, squirrel Girl has beaten Thanos.
01:43:47.783 --> 01:43:50.050
So I mean Okay, wait.
01:43:50.371 --> 01:43:51.353
Accidentally.
01:43:51.353 --> 01:43:55.363
If I say that's a full-blown accident, don't you dare put that into play.
01:43:55.543 --> 01:43:58.567
That's the thing you can't put, I'm sorry.
01:43:58.567 --> 01:44:08.476
As much as I love the idea of a parody character like Squirrel Girl being someone who beat Thanos, you can't put an accident as a win, Right.
01:44:10.021 --> 01:44:19.588
What did the greatest street racer ever say A win's a win Rather by an inch or a mile, a win's a win and family.
01:44:21.527 --> 01:44:22.511
You know what he also said?
01:44:22.511 --> 01:44:26.918
You never had me, you never had your, you never had your call.
01:44:27.480 --> 01:44:32.425
So in the unbeatable squirrel girl, a win is a win.
01:44:32.425 --> 01:44:37.488
She has beaten Thanos, that's what we're sticking by.
01:44:37.649 --> 01:44:38.189
That's where we're at.
01:44:38.189 --> 01:44:38.791
A win is a win.
01:44:39.391 --> 01:44:43.805
A win is a win there you go Decker.
01:44:43.805 --> 01:44:44.688
See.
01:44:46.141 --> 01:44:49.286
I'm going to just let that Y'all do that which I won't.
01:44:50.483 --> 01:44:55.123
I'd just like to note this man dismantled Wolverine.
01:44:55.123 --> 01:45:02.265
This man turned a superhero into a pile of cubes.
01:45:02.265 --> 01:45:05.246
Yep, he did it with a gun.
01:45:05.246 --> 01:45:12.109
Right, he put a fucking ball around Cyclops' head that bounced his beam around and blew his own head off.
01:45:15.903 --> 01:45:17.726
And y'all were like how did Squirrel Girl?
01:45:18.421 --> 01:45:20.166
can legitimately beat him.
01:45:20.166 --> 01:45:22.192
We didn't say she did.
01:45:23.042 --> 01:45:23.805
She just won.
01:45:23.805 --> 01:45:32.530
She won her battle, so I mean I mean hey, everybody when they inch by a mile.
01:45:32.530 --> 01:45:38.269
If he slips and, you know, crack his head on the luminal tile, he dies.
01:45:40.240 --> 01:45:51.005
I'm just saying if I show up to a fight and right as we square up, the guy has a heart attack, that's not a win.
01:45:51.828 --> 01:45:52.288
That's a win.
01:45:53.141 --> 01:45:53.886
That's a default.
01:45:55.725 --> 01:46:06.791
If we're playing Halo and I see you about to do an execution and I shoot him, hey, that kills counts for me, yoink Remember that, by the way, he does that're playing Halo and I disconnect.
01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:08.426
You're the worst kind of person.
01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:12.467
But if we're playing Halo and I disconnect.
01:46:12.667 --> 01:46:14.492
That doesn't mean you beat me.
01:46:14.613 --> 01:46:15.054
I won.
01:46:15.054 --> 01:46:16.015
It's on my record.
01:46:16.015 --> 01:46:22.943
It's a loss on your record, it's on your account, just because the game ended doesn't mean it was fair, hey step your internet up.
01:46:22.943 --> 01:46:23.283
Don't disconnect.
01:46:23.283 --> 01:46:23.865
It's on.
01:46:23.886 --> 01:46:24.488
It doesn't mean it was fair.
01:46:24.488 --> 01:46:25.731
Hey, step your internet up, don't disconnect.
01:46:25.731 --> 01:46:26.193
This ought to own you.
01:46:26.193 --> 01:46:27.877
This ought to own your cow, this ought to own.
01:46:27.877 --> 01:46:28.460
How dare you?
01:46:28.460 --> 01:46:30.127
Yeah, don't disconnect.
01:46:30.127 --> 01:46:33.989
I just want to point out that in all the universes in my
01:46:34.091 --> 01:46:45.332
head the way Thanos really died in Endgame was Ant-Man shrunk down, crawled up his butthole and then expanded in his head, and this is why, we can't
01:46:45.351 --> 01:46:46.274
have nice shit in the hood.
01:46:48.773 --> 01:46:51.667
You just watch the boys and you're like, yeah, that's how they should have won.
01:46:54.243 --> 01:46:57.007
He didn't crawl up his butthole, he crawled up the other hole.
01:46:58.404 --> 01:47:00.014
Hey, I'm not living through that again right now.
01:47:00.884 --> 01:47:01.627
Yeah, let's not.
01:47:04.445 --> 01:47:05.814
This show is not PG.
01:47:05.814 --> 01:47:09.368
My guy, I will lie that scene definitely traumatized me.
01:47:09.368 --> 01:47:13.564
You, I was like oh God, no, and that wasn't his butt.
01:47:13.564 --> 01:47:14.106
He crawled up.
01:47:15.502 --> 01:47:19.890
What makes it even great is the deaths that you get in the show.
01:47:19.890 --> 01:47:23.006
We still got some way worse ones in the comics.
01:47:23.006 --> 01:47:25.440
It's like jeez, oh yeah, yo.
01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:27.720
Everybody's like jeez like yo like oh, this is crazy.
01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:31.000
Like they didn't even do the private jet.
01:47:32.685 --> 01:47:37.110
I have a question the boys is that even part of the DC or Marvel universe?
01:47:37.110 --> 01:47:38.868
Nope, no, it's independent.
01:47:38.868 --> 01:47:43.481
Oh it's independent really neat much like Invincible.
01:47:43.502 --> 01:47:43.983
Oh, it's independent.
01:47:44.002 --> 01:47:44.203
Really.
01:47:45.045 --> 01:47:46.006
Yeah, Huh neat.
01:47:46.027 --> 01:47:56.997
Good for the home party, yeah Much like Invincible yeah, invincible Preacher, yeah just a lot of.
01:48:00.310 --> 01:48:01.194
Let's lose confidence.
01:48:01.194 --> 01:48:02.064
Man, I like going up.
01:48:02.064 --> 01:48:03.819
When I go to the comic book shop, I always check out the independent section.
01:48:03.819 --> 01:48:05.479
You're going to get some awesome stuff.
01:48:07.104 --> 01:48:08.810
I will throw this out there as well.
01:48:08.810 --> 01:48:19.480
The Lego stuff Bangers Every time Not canon Granted.
01:48:19.480 --> 01:48:27.675
The Lego, batmans, the Lego, especially the shows, the games, always great, they're hilarious.
01:48:27.675 --> 01:48:30.525
Oh, I can't complain.
01:48:31.240 --> 01:48:33.368
Superman threw Batman up in front of the moon.
01:48:38.868 --> 01:48:42.372
Oh, they have fun in those, they really do.
01:48:42.393 --> 01:48:42.833
They are great.
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:44.926
One of my favorite moments.
01:48:44.926 --> 01:48:48.645
It was I think it was Lego Batman 2.
01:48:48.645 --> 01:49:05.206
At one point Killer Croc hurls a sewer cover, a manhole cover, and it just straight up decapitates Robin, and then he catches his head and he puts it back on.
01:49:05.206 --> 01:49:08.684
But I like to think of it as like what, if it was the real world?
01:49:08.684 --> 01:49:11.305
Killer Croc just killed that kid.
01:49:12.702 --> 01:49:16.261
And now he has to go to Arkham and rehabilitate him.
01:49:16.280 --> 01:49:21.447
I will point out that I'm very surprised that Batman has not been put in jail for child endangerment.
01:49:22.661 --> 01:49:25.085
Oh, if they knew who he was, they definitely would.
01:49:26.060 --> 01:49:27.382
Because them kids throw hands too.
01:49:27.382 --> 01:49:30.831
Don't tell them my daddy Bing bing bing.
01:49:31.573 --> 01:49:33.283
It's kind of how it goes man.
01:49:34.849 --> 01:49:35.690
It's going to happen.
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:39.506
Hell, even Damien, like shit, Damien, like yo I'm with you, pops.
01:49:39.506 --> 01:49:40.782
They want to take you in.
01:49:41.061 --> 01:49:47.913
We'll fight them all Damien's like just say the word I'll straight up murder them, I'll take the whole GCF out and go.
01:49:51.021 --> 01:49:51.864
Murderer, and I loved it.
01:49:51.864 --> 01:49:56.615
Don't kill, but, daddy, that's what I was trained to do.
01:49:56.615 --> 01:50:00.109
It's like what I'm best at.
01:50:00.750 --> 01:50:02.121
Ask mama, you don't even know me, do you?
01:50:02.121 --> 01:50:02.442
What is this?
01:50:02.442 --> 01:50:05.788
You act like you don't even know me, do you Wait?
01:50:05.788 --> 01:50:06.210
What is this?
01:50:06.229 --> 01:50:09.466
Act like you don't, know my mama, what are we doing here?
01:50:09.841 --> 01:50:12.622
When they send him to the Teen Titans, he's like I'm still trying to kill them.
01:50:12.622 --> 01:50:14.346
I'm like, no, you can't.
01:50:14.346 --> 01:50:16.792
That's my granddaddy.
01:50:16.792 --> 01:50:18.506
I'll be honest.
01:50:18.860 --> 01:50:27.047
When they announced that Batman was going to have a kid, I was like I'm not really into this we that Batman was going to have a kid.
01:50:27.068 --> 01:50:28.149
I was like I'm not really into this.
01:50:28.149 --> 01:50:29.551
We've got enough Robins.
01:50:30.073 --> 01:50:32.516
And then they introduced him he said we've got enough Robins, we do dog.
01:50:32.516 --> 01:50:34.689
I was like let's move on from the Robin thing.
01:50:34.710 --> 01:50:35.054
Matter of fact.
01:50:35.054 --> 01:50:36.604
Yeah, we're supposed to be getting another Robin, aren't we?
01:50:38.242 --> 01:50:40.002
Technically, so hold on.
01:50:40.002 --> 01:50:42.283
So we have Dick Grayson.
01:50:42.283 --> 01:50:44.680
Jason Todd, yep, yep on.
01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:45.722
So we have dick grayson.
01:50:45.743 --> 01:50:51.823
you know, jason todd, yeah, yep, um I can no, I can never remember his name drake, tim drake, that's it.
01:50:52.463 --> 01:51:07.074
Uh, damien stephanie, stephanie brown, yep yep uh, then we have the one who became robin for a short time and then became spoiler oh, uh, oh.
01:51:07.135 --> 01:51:08.838
There was the one who became Robin for a short time and then became Spoiler.
01:51:08.838 --> 01:51:12.899
Oh, there was the one girl too, from Batman in the future, when he's like old man Batman.
01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:13.702
Yeah.
01:51:13.702 --> 01:51:14.766
I can't remember her name either.
01:51:15.701 --> 01:51:17.207
We've had a lot of Robins.
01:51:17.207 --> 01:51:19.186
Spoiler was Stephanie Brown, I think.
01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.067
Okay, then that's the one I'm thinking of before.
01:51:24.067 --> 01:51:25.953
That, then was the one I'm thinking of before.
01:51:25.953 --> 01:51:44.347
That then was the one from um, when he's super old and it's the girl who's got like the red hair yeah, that's the one I was talking about oh, for some reason I thought you were talking about from batman beyond no I was talking about from like Hold on.
01:51:47.100 --> 01:51:51.176
The one where he beats the shit out of Superman.
01:51:51.176 --> 01:51:52.543
Was it Helena Wayne?
01:51:52.585 --> 01:51:57.525
No, it was done by I can't remember his name now.
01:51:57.525 --> 01:51:58.944
He did Spawn.
01:51:58.944 --> 01:52:01.207
I think it was Carrie.
01:52:01.226 --> 01:52:01.809
Carrie Kelly.
01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:04.818
Which honestly wasn't.
01:52:04.766 --> 01:52:05.395
Great Robin Frank Miller.
01:52:05.395 --> 01:52:06.110
That's what it was, carrie, which honestly was a great Robin.
01:52:06.110 --> 01:52:07.439
Frank Miller trilogy.
01:52:08.382 --> 01:52:09.527
Frank Miller, that's what it was.
01:52:09.527 --> 01:52:26.149
Duke Thomas, when they announced him I was like, but then he started his whole thing of like I really want to just murder people and Batman being like kid, you've got to calm down.
01:52:28.661 --> 01:52:29.944
But it'd be so easy.
01:52:29.944 --> 01:52:31.350
Just give me two seconds, Dad.
01:52:32.967 --> 01:52:34.216
I don't understand the problem.
01:52:34.216 --> 01:52:37.288
We'd have no crime if you would just let me kill them.
01:52:39.280 --> 01:52:42.527
Also I'd like to point out do not shit on Batman Beyond.
01:52:42.819 --> 01:52:44.247
That is one of the greatest shows ever.
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:47.626
Whoever has beef with Batman Beyond has beef with me, because I'm like to point out do not shit on Batman Beyond.
01:52:47.626 --> 01:52:47.938
That is one of the greatest shows ever.
01:52:47.938 --> 01:52:48.889
Whoever has beef with Batman Beyond has beef with me, because I'm gonna tell you something, terry McGinnis.
01:52:49.722 --> 01:52:53.043
I mean, my dog is literally named after a character from that show.
01:52:54.167 --> 01:52:55.010
What's your dog name?
01:52:56.181 --> 01:52:56.525
10.
01:52:56.525 --> 01:52:58.925
Like the number 10 from the Royal Flesh.
01:52:58.944 --> 01:52:59.086
Gang.
01:52:59.086 --> 01:53:00.926
I knew exactly what you were saying.
01:53:00.926 --> 01:53:02.381
The.
01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:03.865
Royal Flesh Gang was solid, by the way.
01:53:04.386 --> 01:53:04.948
Solid.
01:53:07.961 --> 01:53:10.935
They were solid like bad guy troop.
01:53:10.935 --> 01:53:16.725
Anyway, and honestly, I'm waiting for a Batman Beyond game to come out or a movie, but once again, one of my favorite games.
01:53:16.784 --> 01:53:18.423
I'll chase this game to the end of the earth.
01:53:18.423 --> 01:53:24.987
It wasn't a Batman Beyond game, but it was a Batman game for the Xbox called Batman Rise of Senzu.
01:53:24.987 --> 01:53:30.722
Oh Senzu, no, no, no, I think it was called Rise of Senzu.
01:53:31.465 --> 01:53:31.706
Senzu.
01:53:31.706 --> 01:53:32.710
Oh okay, no, I don't know.
01:53:34.503 --> 01:53:40.445
And it was all about like this like some, I've never heard of this villain before, but that game was so good.
01:53:40.445 --> 01:53:47.307
Oh, I could talk about classic Xbox games for a fucking year.
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:53.010
You know I'm going to add one more caveat to the whole Robin thing, Did you?
01:53:53.010 --> 01:53:56.231
Know, Staru's son, Jaru, was a Robin.
01:53:57.556 --> 01:53:58.340
Oh yeah 100%.
01:53:58.340 --> 01:54:07.327
I didn't know, that which, by the way, Jaro is just a Starro that they put into a jar.
01:54:09.011 --> 01:54:10.985
He even had a little Robin suit on and everything.
01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:12.402
Yeah.
01:54:12.984 --> 01:54:13.546
Terrible.
01:54:13.546 --> 01:54:22.363
Yeah, he even he's like he uh feels that Bruce Wayne, well Batman is his dad, because he's so infatuated with him.
01:54:22.363 --> 01:54:23.295
He's like yeah.
01:54:23.315 --> 01:54:23.659
Bruce Wayne.
01:54:23.739 --> 01:54:26.390
He's like Batman's my dad, he'll do anything for Batman.
01:54:26.390 --> 01:54:31.006
He's wrecking shop against the Legion of Doom.
01:54:31.006 --> 01:54:36.702
So, yeah, that's another Robin right there.
01:54:37.743 --> 01:54:38.385
I love you, daddy.
01:54:38.445 --> 01:54:39.788
I got very.
01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:43.445
Squid Billy vibes from that.
01:54:47.481 --> 01:54:50.027
I was thinking about the kid from Shrek who said Do the roar.
01:54:50.027 --> 01:54:54.228
I love you, daddy.
01:54:54.228 --> 01:54:55.152
Do the roar.
01:55:01.034 --> 01:55:05.253
Matt McGinnis was a Robin McGinnis, so apparently he was was a Robin.
01:55:05.274 --> 01:55:09.768
McGinnis so apparently.
01:55:09.969 --> 01:55:16.895
I'm sitting here looking at the DC database and it said Matthew McGinnis featuring oh, that's Terry's brother, yeah, the younger brother of Terry.
01:55:16.916 --> 01:55:19.529
McGinnis oh, I forgot about him.
01:55:19.529 --> 01:55:21.868
Same everybody did.
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:23.585
I mean, I definitely forgot, I ain't gonna lie dude.
01:55:23.645 --> 01:55:25.814
I was like you're not important to me.
01:55:25.833 --> 01:55:26.435
Yeah Same, everybody did.
01:55:26.435 --> 01:55:26.817
I mean I did.
01:55:26.817 --> 01:55:30.751
I ain't gonna lie, dude, I was like you're not important to me.
01:55:30.831 --> 01:55:31.453
What do you mean?
01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:34.363
There's multiple storylines involving his brother getting kidnapped.
01:55:35.586 --> 01:55:36.887
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Not important.
01:55:36.887 --> 01:55:40.914
You keep getting kidnapped, do better Stop getting kidnapped.
01:55:40.914 --> 01:55:43.587
Fight back, shoot Bite somebody.
01:55:43.587 --> 01:55:44.613
He's a child.
01:55:44.613 --> 01:55:45.132
You can shoot yourself.
01:55:45.132 --> 01:55:45.480
Fight back, shoot Bite somebody.
01:55:45.480 --> 01:55:45.376
He's a child.
01:55:45.376 --> 01:55:47.225
You can shoot yourself.
01:55:47.225 --> 01:55:48.829
You can change places.
01:55:50.220 --> 01:55:52.126
You can get kidnapped and shit yourself.
01:55:53.228 --> 01:55:54.430
Mudslide, you two One time.
01:55:54.430 --> 01:55:56.826
Get on out of here, hey mudslide.
01:55:56.826 --> 01:56:06.947
Tell me it's not super effective oh fuck oh.
01:56:06.947 --> 01:56:12.708
Tell me it's not super effective.
01:56:12.748 --> 01:56:14.712
Do we have anything else we need to discuss?
01:56:18.648 --> 01:56:22.082
Empty bowels no jutsu, Slip and slide.
01:56:22.082 --> 01:56:23.087
Oh, he's wearing shorts.
01:56:26.862 --> 01:56:33.148
Earthwall jutsu let go of my purse that's my purse.
01:56:33.148 --> 01:56:35.585
I don't know you remember kids.
01:56:35.585 --> 01:56:45.082
If they're trying to take you shit yourself so I think what we've really established here is that the DC universe is amazing and maybe one day we'll talk about the Marvel universe yeah, we're gonna have to like re-fucking is that the DC universe is amazing and maybe one day we'll talk about the Marvel universe.
01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:59.045
Yeah, we're going to have to like re-fucking name this fucking episode to DC Glazing Episode and like, do a second episode where we talk about Marvel and no, it won't be five minutes.
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Fuck you, dante.
01:57:00.860 --> 01:57:01.664
I said ten minutes.
01:57:01.664 --> 01:57:05.488
This was Bordelon's love letter to DC, to be honest.
01:57:05.648 --> 01:57:13.271
Well, well, they have so many good well, tell them to make a good fucking movie beetle uh batman green animated.
01:57:13.292 --> 01:57:17.953
They have good like interesting characters yeah, they got.
01:57:18.012 --> 01:57:19.578
They just came late to the whole.
01:57:19.578 --> 01:57:23.953
Let's make a shared universe, movie universe, like when marvel was creating.
01:57:23.953 --> 01:57:33.233
So wb's all like, hey, we gotta do the same thing, but they didn't have a plan like you don't like a dc like they have.
01:57:33.233 --> 01:57:43.287
Like so many villains, like you can't really make them like one a big bad, like what brainiac like your big bad is brainiac and you, you gotta, somehow you got.
01:57:43.307 --> 01:57:45.231
Brainiac you got, lobo you got.
01:57:47.043 --> 01:57:49.466
Lobo's not really a villain, a bad guy.
01:57:49.466 --> 01:57:50.984
He's more of like an anti-hero.
01:57:51.365 --> 01:57:52.128
He's a bounty.
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We are bad guys, but we are not bad guys.
01:58:00.024 --> 01:58:01.027
There we go, he gets it.
01:58:01.307 --> 01:58:02.411
He's like Dog the Bounty Hunter.
01:58:03.819 --> 01:58:04.823
Don't use Dog the Bounty Hunter.
01:58:04.823 --> 01:58:05.927
That's what he is.
01:58:05.927 --> 01:58:06.609
I'll be honest.
01:58:06.609 --> 01:58:24.673
The problem with a DC live action is, if you wanted a villain, you either have to go to those weird extremes of like Brainiac or even like they tried to do Steppenwolf For the flash and the CW-verse did it the best with the flash and the reverse.
01:58:24.618 --> 01:58:31.470
Or even, like they tried to do Steppenwolf For the Flash, like, and the CW-verse did it the best with the Flash and the reverse Flash and all that stuff they did phenomenal.
01:58:31.470 --> 01:58:34.390
Why can't we move that into the live-action movies?
01:58:34.390 --> 01:58:41.671
Because that would allow us to have those wonderful over-the-top villains.
01:58:41.671 --> 01:58:48.184
You know, we had Gorilla Grodd, we had, was it Man-Shark?
01:58:49.926 --> 01:58:50.287
Mantis.
01:58:51.389 --> 01:58:54.293
No, no, no, King Shark, king Shark.
01:58:54.293 --> 01:58:57.904
Yeah, that's what it was, man-shark.
01:58:59.609 --> 01:59:00.171
I'm sorry.
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:08.025
You say that, like there's not literally a character called Man-Bat, that's a valid argument yeah you got me there.
01:59:08.025 --> 01:59:13.045
In the comic Batman there's Man-Bat.
01:59:13.045 --> 01:59:13.627
Okay.
01:59:13.627 --> 01:59:18.784
What's one of Spider-Man's villains' name, the Lizard?
01:59:18.784 --> 01:59:19.226
Okay.
01:59:21.462 --> 01:59:22.225
The Red Skull.
01:59:24.045 --> 01:59:29.859
Just on the nose, like some of these people really not original
01:59:32.988 --> 01:59:40.760
who needs those oh god you want to go break out my book of of what was it called.
01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:43.439
It was like really bad heroes or something.
01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:45.247
Unfortunately named heroes or something.
01:59:45.247 --> 01:59:49.327
Yeah, there was one that was powered by cocaine.
01:59:49.327 --> 01:59:54.405
I think, everyone's powered by that.
01:59:54.405 --> 01:59:58.511
No, I mean, he had like superpowers with cocaine.
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I will say that takes me real quick to Ultraman, the man who, uh, from the crime syndicate, whose entire gimmick is he snorts kryptonite and that gives him superpowers.
02:00:12.328 --> 02:00:24.149
Oh damn, when he, when he, when he shows up, he collects all the kryptonite on earth and he's just like he's walking around, just like crushing it and like snorting it.
02:00:44.970 --> 02:00:47.592
Just doing bumps of fucking sidewalk.
02:00:47.613 --> 02:00:48.212
Damn, you look old.
02:00:48.212 --> 02:00:59.740
I'm going to crush this up real quick, Damn bitch, you got old Again.
02:00:59.761 --> 02:01:01.568
We drift back to DC, because DC is more interesting, more better.
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Well, I mean, if you want to talk Marvel I can, but we're already at four hours, Right.
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We're listeners right now.
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I could talk for hours on Venom and how Venom's character is so complex, or Deadpool actually being a really deep character, as opposed to the lighthearted nonsense people think.
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He really is.
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Yeah, coming.
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Deadpool is awesome, or how.
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Spider-Man gave Mary Jane cancer because of them having sex.
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Because he was giving her the blue rabbit indigo wing.
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And next thing, you know Next.
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thing you know, or how Rocket Raccoon doesn't know what raccoons are.
02:01:45.551 --> 02:01:47.425
What the hell is a raccoon.
02:01:47.425 --> 02:01:48.706
I do love that fact.
02:01:49.922 --> 02:01:50.787
That tickles me pink.
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He's an alien, he's not a raccoon.
02:01:55.161 --> 02:01:56.104
He is a raccoon.
02:01:56.666 --> 02:01:58.511
He's not a raccoon, he's an alien.
02:02:00.122 --> 02:02:02.289
If not raccoon, then why raccoon shaped?
02:02:04.500 --> 02:02:05.319
I don't know Venom's an alien.
02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:05.765
If not human, then why raccoon-shaped?
02:02:05.765 --> 02:02:07.043
I don't know Venom's an alien.
02:02:07.043 --> 02:02:08.944
If not human, why human-shape?
02:02:10.822 --> 02:02:11.344
I mean.
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Fair, he takes shape of what he's covered.
02:02:17.939 --> 02:02:20.042
Yeah, I mean Venom really Groot is a tree.
02:02:20.042 --> 02:02:21.445
Why not tree-shape?
02:02:21.445 --> 02:02:24.484
He is tree-shape, no he's not.
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What tree has legs, arms and a head and eyes?
02:02:28.551 --> 02:02:30.141
The?
02:02:30.181 --> 02:02:31.908
trees along the rivers here in Florida.
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That in.
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I think you're on the wrong side of the neighborhood, sir, yeah.
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Do trees have eyes?
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Trees have eyes.
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That's the new horror movie.
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Not going there.
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Do all the trees, not have eyes.
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Sir.
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I new horror movie.
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And Shrek, I'm not going there.
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Are y'all's trees not?
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Have eyes, sir.
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I think those are coyotes.
02:02:51.020 --> 02:02:51.966
The hills have eyes.
02:02:52.622 --> 02:02:54.280
The trees are talking to me.
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I don't go there either.
02:02:57.145 --> 02:02:58.347
No, we're not doing that joke.
02:02:58.889 --> 02:02:58.988
No.
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We'll leave that right there.
02:03:04.685 --> 02:03:06.103
Yeah, don't they have?
02:03:06.122 --> 02:03:08.568
I mean, no, we'll leave that right there.
02:03:08.568 --> 02:03:11.793
Yeah, like, don't they have like walking talking trees in like the talking verse?
02:03:11.793 --> 02:03:13.904
Yeah, called Ents.
02:03:13.904 --> 02:03:17.920
See, there's your talking trees Walking talking trees.
02:03:19.649 --> 02:03:20.052
Yeah, that was.
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Lord of the Rings.
02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:22.613
That was like what 1905?
02:03:23.760 --> 02:03:24.207
Right First off.
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There's only one trilogy and it's not of the Rings.
02:03:24.887 --> 02:03:25.608
That was like what 1905?
02:03:25.608 --> 02:03:25.779
Right First off.
02:03:25.779 --> 02:03:30.945
There's only one trilogy, and it's not of the ring, it's fucking Star Wars.
02:03:34.773 --> 02:03:35.394
Batman series.
02:03:35.939 --> 02:03:39.451
There's only one return, and it's not of the king, it's of the Jedi.
02:03:39.820 --> 02:03:40.567
It's of the Batman.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
02:03:42.461 --> 02:03:47.645
I completely fucked that line all to hell, and I appreciate you going ahead and saving that I was going to mess with you about it later.
02:03:47.805 --> 02:03:51.930
Oh, come on, that was three movies about fucking walking.
02:03:52.581 --> 02:03:53.865
Here's the first movie.
02:03:56.240 --> 02:04:03.072
Here's the second movie and here's the third movie you guys like to walk too.
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I like putting on my hokas and going along with this.
02:04:04.980 --> 02:04:06.118
I made a nerd vomit.
02:04:07.083 --> 02:04:14.445
I have never watched the Halo Lord of the Rings movie and I was on a ship in the middle of the ocean with nowhere to go.
02:04:14.445 --> 02:04:19.966
And I still didn't watch that shit because I fell asleep every time that shit was on so I tried to.
02:04:20.067 --> 02:04:22.979
I've watched like two of them and, to be honest with you, I was drunk both times.
02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:23.180
What's up?
02:04:23.201 --> 02:04:25.626
I've watched like two of them and, to be honest with you, I was drawn to both times.
02:04:25.645 --> 02:04:25.966
What's up?
02:04:25.966 --> 02:04:27.729
That might be the sign for us to wrap this shit up.
02:04:28.771 --> 02:04:30.135
Yep Might be right on that one.
02:04:30.135 --> 02:04:34.729
All right, john, I want to thank you for being on the show tonight.
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Do you want to plug anything?
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Your Instagram, your SoundCloud, anything?
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Not particularly.
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I don't have music anywhere anymore.
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Uh, eventually I probably will uh twitch your subreddit follow me on things at king static og say it one more time for the kids in the back king static og there you go.
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Hey, look for that name, tim.
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You got any last words for us?
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uh.
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Thank you once again for having me on the show.
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Guys appreciate you.
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Also, if you've known me by my handle, I'm big king kuma.
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You catch me on twitch, uh, and it's all the same title twitch, tiktok, so on, so forth.
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I have video games that I like to do.
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Also, I'm a up-and-coming voice actor.
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If you got some scripts you need to hear, bring your character's life, let me me know.
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Once again, I'm here, baby, check me out.
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Jay any last words.
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Hey, I'm a guy who talks about dumb shit on a podcast.
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Reach for the clicker.
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He streams too.
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On occasion.
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It's very rare that I stream.
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If I do stream, you can either catch me oh damn, I can't remember my fucking twitch name, damn.
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Come on, you got it.
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His twitch name is also KingStaticOG.
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Oh you fucking bastard Got him.
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Got him.
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Oh shit, oh man.
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And I am your host, dante, with the final words here.
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You got him.
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Oh shit, oh man.
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And I am your host, dante, with the final words here.
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And I want to thank everybody for staying here as long as you can, to the end of this DC Glaze Fest, because, you know, dc just shows that they're better in everything but movies.
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Well, I disagree.
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Some of the comics are good, like DC, just ah, I remember my twitches, everything but movies.
02:06:26.529 --> 02:06:28.720
I disagree Some of the comics are good.
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Ah, I remember my Twitch is sfsarge21.
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I literally just looked it up and was about to say it.
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If you didn't Say it one more time, I would not let you do this.
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You can follow me on Twitch at sfsarge21.
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That's Sierra Foxtrot, sierra, alpha Romeo Golf Echo 21.
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I'm Sierra Foxtrot, sierra, alpha Romeo Golf Echo 21.
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I'm off in advance.
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In post.
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You can put King Statico G there, right?
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Yeah, we got you, or me.
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King Kuma.
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You can also follow our joint Twitch DFYS Media Official.
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Yep and with that being said, I'm Dante, your host.
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Catch us again on the regular Reach for the Clicker episodes, where we talk about all the great movies and TV shows that we've been watching and also look at another actor's legacy, and we continue on and try to figure out if Jennifer Lopez is a Meryl Streep type.
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God damn it.
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No, the fuck she isn't, and I'd like to remind everyone that Squirrel Girl has defeated Thanos.
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That's it, Thank you everybody.
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Have a good night.
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Now I'm not the one who says no.