Dana Linn Bailey on taking PED’s, The Dark Side Of The Fitness Industry & Conspiracy Theories

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Wait, hold on. This is how we're going to start.
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Is it going? This is how we're going to start
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the podcast.
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This is just a funny fact.
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Before we get into this, Daylen, baby.
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It's the first time catching up in a long time.
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I haven't seen you in many years.
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I know. We go back. This is why it came up.
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We were at your gym and we went to the
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sushi restaurant right across. He ordered the crispy rice. I
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was like, Fun fact, Brandon, crispy rice reminds me of
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Bradley Martin. When we went to your gym, Rob and
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I came out here. We went to your original first
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Zoo Culture. Oh, no, no. This is before. No, this
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was before Zoo Culture. It didn't even exist. This is
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when you were talking about it.
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That's more than eight years ago.
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Oh, yeah. So more than eight years ago.
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So we've known each other for a decade.
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Oh, yeah. Decade. So going back to why you remind
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me of crispy rice.
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Okay.
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We came out and trained with you at some gym
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and you took us out to eat. What I remember
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of the place, it felt like we were in the
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back corner. It was very dark, but you got crispy
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rice and I've never had it. And you're like, oh,
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you have to get it. It's the best. And you
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ordered a bunch of crispy rice. And now when I
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eat crispy rice, I think of you. Wow.
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That's... That's amazing.
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You took us out to this nice little hole-in-the-wall sushi place.
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Still to this day.
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And you just were raving about the crispy rice, and
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I just never had it. I never.
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Wow, I wonder where it was. I'm trying to think.
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Was it in the valley? It must have been in
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the valley. I don't know. I wonder what did we train.
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We probably trained, like, chest and shoulders.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure we did.
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So, man, you're one of the very first... I guess
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women really that popped off on social media.
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Yeah.
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Like ever.
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Because I'm old as shit.
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Yeah. We're both old now.
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I'm older than you.
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Yeah.
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How old are you? 40. Rob and I turned 40
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this year.
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Yeah. What is that like? Cause I'm, I'm getting there.
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I'm afraid. I thought it was going to be way worse.
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It's like the, the number, like our birthdays are both,
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we're just three days apart. My birthday is May 30th.
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His is the 27th. And he was fine with it.
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Like he's actually been saying he's been 40 for the
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last three years. So then, so then a year ago
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I started saying I was four, like when I was 39,
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I'm like, Oh, I'm 40. I'm 40. So when I
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turned 40, it won't be so bad. And I think
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it's just the number is scary. But do you remember
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like growing up, like as you were a kid and you,
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you looked at like your parents that were like, you know,
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35 or 40, like, Oh my God, life is over.
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Like you're old and you can't do anything. I'm literally
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in the best shape of my life. And like, I just, Like,
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my 30s were fantastic. Done a lot of really cool shit.
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I've accomplished a lot of really cool shit. But, like,
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now that I'm, like, 40, now I'm, like, really enjoying
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everything that I worked for in my 30s.
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Yeah.
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Like, 40 is awesome.
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Yeah. You know what's really cool, too? You were also one.
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You and Rob were also some of the very first
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people in this industry to have a clothing line.
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Yeah. Like.
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It didn't exist. Yeah. Yeah. It literally, there was House
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of Pain. Do you remember House of Pain? Do they
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still exist?
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I don't know. But I remember the big oversized. I
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don't know.
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The House of Pain, it had the, it just said
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House of Pain in really bad lettering.
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What year did you guys start that?
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I want to say like, I think 2010, maybe nine.
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Because I started in 2015 selling like merch in a sense,
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like selling stuff that I liked when it was.
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Well, the great thing with Rob is he just.
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I mean, we actually had a clothing line before that.
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It was called Broken Text. We used to just do...
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We'd go to car meets, car show, and sell shirts.
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Then we got into... We've always been into cars, and
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we got into this group called Speed Freaks. It was
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just a bunch of friends of ours that did drift
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events and car races. So we'd print Speed Freak shirts.
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We started... Yeah, our clothing line, a long time ago. Yeah.
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Broken text. I don't even know where that came from,
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but the domain name actually went up, and we didn't
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have money to someone, I guess, bought it. And Rob, like,
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emailed them and was like, hey, man, like, can I
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have my name back? And the guy wanted, like, $ 200.
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And we're like, oh, shit.
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We'll start a new brand or what?
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We'll start a new brand.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But Flag or Fail kind of happened when we're
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just everything.
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Yeah, it felt like it... Did you guys start it
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kind of before social media?
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I mean, we were printing shirts. When did we leave?
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So we got married in 2007. And honestly....
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Because social media e-com, I would say, didn't really start until, like, 2011, like,
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end of 2010.
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Because that's... Or it.
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Started, like, right as... I mean, as soon as YouTube, like,
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became a thing, we immediately did it. Same with, like, Instagram. Yeah.
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It was just whatever new thing was coming out. And
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Rob is really good with that. Really good. He's like,
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there's this Instagram thing. We need to do it. Same with, like,
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YouTube and... He's never had any background in filming or
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even photography. It's all like self-taught. And he's just very
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creative and really good at everything. So as soon as
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YouTube started, we're like, well, let's do that. Like I
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was getting into fitness and competing and saw that other people, well,
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I thought they were making a living, but they were
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definitely not. Everyone had a job. Yeah.
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You're talking about in the fitness industry.
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Yeah, in the fitness industry. I thought, okay... Like I
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want to be on the covers of magazines. I want
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to be like supplement sponsors. Oh my God.
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No.
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Well, still to this day, the competition industry, you're not
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making money.
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Well, especially as a female, like, do you know what
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I won for being number one in the world?
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How much?
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$ 10, 000.
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Yeah. I basically paid for our flights to get an
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hotel room. I was like, Oh, awesome. Thanks.
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Yeah. Like little bonus points really.
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But I mean, it's more now it was the first
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year and, uh, But still as a female, like, no,
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that's not like everyone in the sport still has like
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a nine to five job that they have to do
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to support their passion.
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Even today, really.
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I mean, unless you monetize outside of like using kind
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of like it's your image. And that's something I really
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liked about you. Like before I even ever met you,
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you and Rob had figured out that like it was
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going to be up to you guys to actually make
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a living.
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Yeah.
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Like not in whatever industry you're doing the thing in.
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Cause like, I think a lot of people, I mean,
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I know for sure in the fitness industry, people think like...
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Not that competing is a terrible idea because obviously it
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works really well for a lot of people to get
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their name out there.
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And that's what I tell people. It's a platform. It's
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not where... Unless you're top three men's open, you're not
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going to make any money.
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Even at that level, top three men's open, to the
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extent that these guys have to do things and take
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drugs and all this shit.
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Yeah, it's expensive.
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The amount of money is like.
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It's such an expensive sport.
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Crazy expensive.
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So.
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I guess I'm really, I'm curious, like the, the inception
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of like flag nor fail in your, your company before
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it was like, there was, cause nowadays everyone is just
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copying everyone else. It is just, and I know everyone, everyone.
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Yeah, I get it.
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Like I've seen it. I've been a part of companies that, Oh,
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we're better than other people. It's like, bro, I was
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there from the ground floor with you. And I saw
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you copying people. I saw you asking me, yo, should
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we copy this for that? And it's like, get a
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hold of yourself. But the thing that I admire about
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you is, You were doing, and you and Rob were
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doing this with Flag Nor Fail before it was a
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thing that everyone did. So I guess my question to
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that point is, what were your inspirations?
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Was it just Rob's ideas?
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I mean, it was definitely Rob. He grew up, I
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don't know, obviously football, but you know, he's huge. So
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growing up, his mom actually taught him how to cross-stitch
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and stuff, and he draws and very creative. He made
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his tux for... um like prom and stuff he like
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black like literally sewed his tux put flames going i.
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Mean and he's an artist he sings yeah i'm not
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trying to make this whole thing about him but i
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just i just want to know the inception of that
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like because you guys didn't have all the examples.
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Yeah it was definitely his passion and then i mean
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also coming from more of like the like a skater
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vibe like the that's kind of where we saw he
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just saw like a missing link.
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He was like It kind of reminded me, in the beginning,
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like Famous Stars and Stripes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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That was.
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Whose brand was that? That drummer.
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Right?
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Travis... Yeah. Yeah.
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Travis Barker. Yeah.
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That was his brand. That was a skating brand that
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was really popular.
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Well, yeah. So that was sort of what Flagner Fail
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kind of is inspired off of, is those little niche
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skate brands in the fitness world, because there just wasn't.
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There was nothing. It was either... It was either House
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of Pain or what's the one? It's out of like
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the UK, I think. I can't think of the name,
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but it was like higher end. It was like a
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super high end fitness and then like House of Pain,
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which was just really below.
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Was you talking about Gymshark? Was Gymshark around then?
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No, no, Gymshark.
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It wasn't even around.
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We were before Gymshark, I think.
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They just did a good job of leveraging. You know
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the other company and you'll remember. this too, the other
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company that was actually, ironically enough, the very first company
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to really leverage social media in the fitness space was Shreds.
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Yeah. I know you remember that.
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Yeah. Joey Swole, Paige Hathaway, like they crushed and everyone
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copied their model. When you, when you look at like
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all supplement brands now, they like copy that whole.
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All e-com brands.
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Yeah.
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The code.
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Everything. Yeah. They crushed. Yeah. I mean, and they all,
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it was just building. They were the influence. They kind
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of developed almost like the term influencer. Yeah. Like that's
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what they were doing. It was just like building these
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people like characters to follow, to push supplements.
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What do you think it takes now to build a
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company that stands out? Because now there's everyone's just copying everyone.
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Everyone's just copying everything.
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I mean, like right there, it's just, you have to
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be different. Like what, like everybody looks the same, like
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shirts all look the same. So that's actually kind of
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what we're doing with flag is, we're going to kind
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of a different direction recently since moving to Montana, it
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sort of fits. Like we're kind of getting out of
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like the fitness brand. We have a, still a fitness influence,
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but like we do flannels and, uh, we're, we're coming
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out with overalls.
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Some lumberjack.
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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Um, and bags because you know, the, the market is
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saturated and it's like, well, we're, it's hard to compete
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in something that like everybody has. And it's great. Because
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that gives options to people to make money. But yeah,
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we're kind of going a different direction just because we
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like it. We enjoy it. We're outdoorsy people anyway. And
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it's cold in Montana, so flannels make sense.
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How do you feel about like, because you're 100% one
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of the pioneers in this industry, the fitness space. I
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would say that I was a part of it as
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well in the fitness space as far as like kind
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of like I don't know, pushing content to a different
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level that sometimes I'm like, damn, what did I create?
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Cause I would talk to my guys and be like,
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everyone does all the same now. It's like, that was
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a part of something that just is like super saturated.
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And then there's probably people who will watch this podcast
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who are younger now. Cause it's a whole new generation
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who don't, probably don't even know.
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Who you are.
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Oh, they don't. I know. There's no way. And it's
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crazy though. I go to gyms now. I'm like, oh,
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they don't know who I am. Occasionally. There were some
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people at your gym that knew, cause it's a younger crowd.
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And like, I am, I'm like older. Yeah. So, but
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there were, there was quite a few people that knew
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who I was. I was very impressed.
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My question to that, to that is like, what is
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it like kind of like, phasing out. Like, cause I'm
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in the same spot, like in the, cause like, you know,
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there's all these new people who are coming up. And
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what I noticed too, though, of the new people who
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come up, they don't stick around as much.
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Like they're kind of like here for a month or
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three months. They're really popular. Then they kind of fizzle out.
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Like back when we were doing it, it was like,
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if you were able to do it, you were able
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to sustain it for longer. Maybe just cause there was
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just less people doing it.
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There were less. Oh, and we like going back, like,
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you started when we started, like we, we were on
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like the same journey, like, and it's cool to see
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like how far you've gone with it, but it's because
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we literally started this. Like we were, we were their
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original YouTubers. And here I am, I'm still a YouTuber.
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Like 15 years later, we're still, still doing it because.
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How has, how has your perspective of it changed? Do
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you have as much fun?
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Um, before it was just Rob and I just, what
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we were just more vloggy style, just our day, crazy
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stuff that's happening. Um, and then when I was competing,
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we'd just do like full competition mode where like I'm
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crying and it was that, those are the ones that
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did really good is because I was doing something. It
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was something for people to follow. Now it's, I'm more
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doing it to help people. Um, mine are more informational, um,
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full workout videos where i'm giving you sets and reps
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and tips and and it's all drives so i have
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a coaching group now dlb daily yeah that's the my
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main focus right now is like my coaching group because
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yeah it makes me feel good i'm helping people so
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now youtube is the reason like i'm doing youtube to
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direct more people to my training app.
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Training stuff yeah So, but do you have more fun
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doing like what you did prior or what you're doing now?
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I think before it was more fun because there was no,
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like now it's like, I need this to work. So
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it drives this machine. Like before we were just like
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putting out stuff just to put stuff out, you know,
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there was no, there was no direction. Um, and, but
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until I was like, okay, we're doing like Olympia prep.
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And that's when we started doing the, oh my gosh,
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we used to go on tours and like the, the
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Flagner failed tours. Yeah. On the bus every, every year.
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So we do something different. The first one was out
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of our, um, out of our truck and we would
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put graphics on it and we just did like little
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gym tours and like, see what people would show up.
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And then, we started doing like adventure tour and it
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was like a 30 day tour. It was bad-ass. Like
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you felt like an absolute rock star. Like we'd show up. Um,
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the first, the, the one that was most memorable is
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I competed, uh, at the 2013 won it and thought
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something was going to happen. Like I thought, okay, like
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people are going to call and, I'm going to get
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signed to a supplement sponsor. And like, you know, I
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was first in the world and nothing happened. Like Rob
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was like calling photographers like, Hey, do you want to
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shoot Dana the next day? Like tomorrow we're here, we're free.
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And they're like, no, sorry, we're booked. He's like, uh,
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you just won. So I ended up and went to
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the gym and trained with Mike Rashid instead of like,
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I didn't even have a photo shoot of me after
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winning the Olympia.
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How many did you win?
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Just one.
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Just one.
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Okay. So then following year, 2014 competed again. And instead
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of like, you know, that when you reach the top
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of something, you think like, this is the pinnacle. This
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is the mountaintop. There was like a lot of like
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letdown after that. It was like, I did this thing,
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everything I've focused on for the last, you know, eight
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years of my life, I've made it to the top.
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And I thought like, oh, like the shining doors would
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open and all my dreams would come true. And it
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was sort of just like, because, you know, it was,
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that's 2013. This is like, 11 years ago. Supplement sponsors
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still wanted nothing to do with me because I was
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a girl with no boobs and muscle. They didn't know
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how to shoot me. I didn't do the sexy route,
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so I wasn't deadlifting in thongs and stuff. I was
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wearing sweatpants and cut-off tees. They didn't know what to
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do with me. The following year, Rob's idea is, well,
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fuck those people. We're going to go on tour. Drew,
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his brother, was getting married. We... shipped our we had
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two 911s we shipped our 911s out to Vegas and
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then we did 911 tour all the way back to
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Drew's wedding in North Carolina yeah so every day we'd
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map out like okay we're gonna stop at this gym
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and then we're gonna stop at this gym and I
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remember we stopped at this gym in Texas I wish
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I could remember the name and there was like a
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five hour line like wrapped around the building and it
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was like rock star status like I got out there's
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like like a thousand people there and I was like
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I have to meet every single one of these people
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yeah and that's what we did we would just stop
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meet people for six hours and then get back on
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the road and go to the next gym sometimes we
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got to train but most of the time it was
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just meeting people.
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Yeah I remember the the biggest I was, cause I
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would always go to like the Olympias or these events
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or the expos and the biggest lines were always like
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my line, your line, Jay Cutler.
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Yeah.
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I was just going to say.
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Yeah. Rich Piana. Yeah.
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Who else, who else that time at the end of
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the day, like, I don't know. I, it's just, it's
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such a weird space. Cause it's very like grabby of
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other people's ideas. And I know you've, I know you've
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for sure have felt this probably with your apparel where
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people are like, Oh, that's cool. And they just copy
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it and change the logo.
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And, Oh my gosh, they'll literally put, because most of the, like,
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especially our tees, they were like song lyrics because Rob
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made music. Most of the stuff that we would put
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on t-shirts were song lyrics. And then you would see
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the same lyrics or the same like words. You're like, no,
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you just, instead of hustle harder, you just wrote words.
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It would be something stupid like that. They just would
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switch it. Or use the same, like, because Rob does graffiti. Yeah.
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So all the hand scripts were actually his hand script. Yeah.
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So people were getting, like, those stock script and, like,
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just using the same, like, script and then block text.
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Yeah, because you guys were the first really doing that.
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Because I remember even back when I was working with
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scumbags from Young L.A.
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I was... No, yeah.
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We would reference your items and go, yo, this script
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looks really cool. And then it's like, those would be
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products we would make.
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Yeah.
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So that's the thing is I've just seen it happen
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this way for so long. And I'm just like, man,
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it's just such a weird space where everyone- I get.
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It because you're you're just following trends and that's, that's
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what fashion is is it's just following trends. So everyone,
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especially when you're in like, although fitness seems like such
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this big thing, it's still a small niche market, at
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least for us in like the bodybuilding world. Yeah. So
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everything ends up and you're like, it's nauseating to see,
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but that's kind of what fashion is. It's like, you're
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broadcasting trends that are coming to like, Oh, we need
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to do this next. So like right now, like the
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new trend for like the girl's leggings is the thing
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that goes down in the butt. So now you're going
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to see everyone's leggings look exactly the same because it's
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a trend. Someone started it. So, and it's going to just,
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everyone's going to do it. Yeah.
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How did you ever, did you guys, did you ever
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have conversations with Rob being like, motherfuckers cop?
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Like, did you ever see anything I did? It was
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like a copied or.
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Oh no, you never know. Definitely not.
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But I loved, I remember loving, like you guys were
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probably the first company that had like really pretty script
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and topography of like writing and words.
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Yeah.
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So did you guys ever, were you ever having conversations
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where like, these motherfuckers like.
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I mean, there are so many times where it's like,
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is it worth like, is it worth even saying something? Like,
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and you don't want to bring like attention to them.
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It's just like.
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That was one of my biggest mistakes along the way.
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Yeah.
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When I, when I, cause I would, I was dealing
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with stuff with that company. I was just kind of
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talking about, and like, I didn't, I didn't bring up
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things sooner when I should have. And I just let
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them show me to like leverage themselves higher.
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Yeah.
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And that was one of my biggest mistakes was like,
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obviously you can't like every week be like, they copied me.
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That's stupid.
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Right.
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But like it gets to a point sometimes where it's like,
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should speak up. Like one of my biggest mistakes was
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not speaking up sooner was not telling the truth sooner.
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Yeah.
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Have you ever felt that way about, not necessarily like
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someone like ripping off a design or whatever, but maybe
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just in general in life, like have you ever, I.
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Don't know, held back something that later on you're like,
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I should have just said that.
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I usually don't hold back much. I don't like people
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know you either. I either like reward or I don't
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like you. I like most people. I'm pretty friendly. I
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feel like everyone's very nice to me, but they're most
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of the time, at least in the business sense, like,
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it's not worth our time or energy. We try to
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look at it as like, well, are they doing better
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than us? No. Okay. Then who cares? And you just
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sort of move on.
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Yeah.
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It hurts. It's annoying. It's just, it is what it is.
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But most of the time, like we don't bring attention
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to it. Like right now there's actually, so, you know,
491
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.759
we had a gym in, in Pennsylvania.
492
00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:26.299
Yeah.
493
00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:28.839
Warhouse gym. Yeah. So we closed it down. Great name,
494
00:22:28.859 --> 00:22:29.759
by the way. I know.
495
00:22:29.779 --> 00:22:30.599
Great name.
496
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.720
Awesome gym. I miss that. I do miss that gym.
497
00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:36.480
But it was like a headache when we kind of
498
00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.440
moved away. It just made it even more of a headache.
499
00:22:39.539 --> 00:22:44.079
So we closed it down. And it now reopened as
500
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:50.420
another Warhouse Gym. Yeah, trust me. We told the girl that's...
501
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.440
I think she put like Warhouse Strength or something. We're like,
502
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:58.089
you can't use the name Warhouse. And she's using like
503
00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:04.170
our logo font and everything. We're like, does it even matter? Like,
504
00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:06.529
good luck to you. It's not in a good area.
505
00:23:06.730 --> 00:23:07.450
It's the same.
506
00:23:07.690 --> 00:23:08.519
We struggled.
507
00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:09.240
The same building?
508
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:13.059
Same building. She just moved equipment in because we sold
509
00:23:13.099 --> 00:23:16.359
pretty much everything in it. The only really part is
510
00:23:16.460 --> 00:23:18.619
like Rob and I had like pictures. Like I had
511
00:23:18.660 --> 00:23:21.619
this giant photo of me on the back wall. It
512
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:26.170
was awesome. So that's there. So she's definitely like tricking people.
513
00:23:26.779 --> 00:23:29.410
Like I've gotten so many messages.
514
00:23:30.289 --> 00:23:32.250
You can go, you can take that. Like you could
515
00:23:32.289 --> 00:23:32.930
have them take that.
516
00:23:33.029 --> 00:23:35.190
I'm going to go break in and spray paint all
517
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:38.920
over it or something. But it's definitely like I've gotten
518
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.119
so many messages like, oh my God, you opened again?
519
00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:42.640
I was like, no, that's not us.
520
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:44.279
Yeah, now you're signing memberships up.
521
00:23:44.299 --> 00:23:47.240
She's just like, yeah, Dana will be here next week.
522
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:48.799
Yeah, next week, every week.
523
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.680
Yeah, every week. Oh, she's busy. She'll be back.
524
00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:53.720
Why do you think people take advantage of that stuff?
525
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:54.700
Because they don't know better?
526
00:23:54.779 --> 00:23:58.039
A lot of people don't know better. Like we've had
527
00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:00.859
friends of ours that kind of knocked off shirts and
528
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.279
they're like, dude, you're literally using the same fonts as
529
00:24:04.420 --> 00:24:07.690
us in the same like, It looks exactly the same.
530
00:24:07.730 --> 00:24:11.470
Maybe your words are a little bit different. And they're like,
531
00:24:11.970 --> 00:24:14.990
you inspired us to start this clothing line. We're like,
532
00:24:15.450 --> 00:24:20.579
it's literally our clothing line. But people don't realize there's
533
00:24:20.619 --> 00:24:27.359
a difference between inspiration and outright stealing. Yeah. But it's cute.
534
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:28.160
It's fine.
535
00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:28.759
Yeah.
536
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.900
You just have to sort of laugh about it and
537
00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:34.700
be like, it's not worth getting angry about it. Yeah.
538
00:24:35.180 --> 00:24:35.460
It's just.
539
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:38.000
But imagine if they ran your back and just like
540
00:24:38.059 --> 00:24:40.609
stole your customer list and data.
541
00:24:41.069 --> 00:24:42.769
That would be a little bit frustrating.
542
00:24:42.809 --> 00:24:44.650
You've had that happen. I've had that happen. Yeah, you've
543
00:24:44.670 --> 00:24:45.710
had that happen. Yeah.
544
00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:50.569
I've also like given other influencers to the same wheelhouse.
545
00:24:50.789 --> 00:24:51.130
Yeah.
546
00:24:51.670 --> 00:24:52.529
Essentially did the same thing.
547
00:24:52.809 --> 00:24:56.049
Like imagine you're creating Flag Nor Fail and you had
548
00:24:57.009 --> 00:25:00.150
three other like fitness brands to test products on and
549
00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:01.849
see if it sells well and go, okay, this doesn't
550
00:25:01.890 --> 00:25:02.170
sell well.
551
00:25:02.190 --> 00:25:03.890
Let's not sell it here. Let's not spend our money.
552
00:25:04.259 --> 00:25:06.779
Let's spend their money. Yeah.
553
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:08.759
Let's okay. This does really well. Let's not sell it
554
00:25:08.779 --> 00:25:10.259
over here. Let's keep selling over here.
555
00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:11.000
Yeah.
556
00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:12.299
That's kind of what I went through.
557
00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:15.440
I feel like you've had a lot of run-ins where
558
00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:20.220
like things like we've had one really bad situation that
559
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:23.680
I don't technically think I'm even allowed to talk about it,
560
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:27.309
but it's so long ago. But before like we started
561
00:25:27.430 --> 00:25:30.650
doing a Flagner fail at Expos, I worked for another company.
562
00:25:30.710 --> 00:25:32.809
Rob and I both worked for another company in the
563
00:25:32.849 --> 00:25:37.650
fitness realm. which it is what it is, but it
564
00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:40.650
was kind of that step to actually getting to expos
565
00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:42.730
and have like being at a booth and what that's
566
00:25:42.769 --> 00:25:47.839
all about. Well, the guy, the owner, he's a absolute, um,
567
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:54.160
just scumbag, absolute scumbag. Um, we, we worked for him.
568
00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:57.500
He was a friend of ours. We helped develop the product. Um,
569
00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.259
I still like don't, there's still like parts of me
570
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.460
that feels like I can't say it. It's like, man,
571
00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:04.680
I'm doing so much better off than you. Like if
572
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.220
you try to sue me, I'll just sue you back.
573
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.230
But I named the product. Literally, I was the model
574
00:26:11.269 --> 00:26:15.910
of the product. Did everything. Rob shot everything. Like we were,
575
00:26:15.930 --> 00:26:18.529
he just sort of came up with the idea and
576
00:26:18.549 --> 00:26:20.470
we kind of helped finish it for him. And then
577
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.319
we blew it up. So it was like people knew
578
00:26:24.339 --> 00:26:26.460
what it was. Man, I just want to say it.
579
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:27.880
There's part of me that.
580
00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:28.549
Okay, just say it.
581
00:26:29.380 --> 00:26:32.859
No, because I don't want anyone to ever give him attention.
582
00:26:32.900 --> 00:26:36.549
But it was a long time ago. But looking back,
583
00:26:37.910 --> 00:26:42.549
although we were just two kids being completely taken advantage of,
584
00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:45.190
he had Rob leave his... He was at that point
585
00:26:45.230 --> 00:26:47.289
in time, he was working at QVC. I don't know
586
00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:50.160
if you knew. Oh, shit. He worked at QVC for...
587
00:26:50.710 --> 00:26:54.529
making like decent money, had him leave his job where
588
00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:57.349
we were, he was making really good money and like
589
00:26:57.430 --> 00:27:00.539
come work for us, for him. Um, and then just
590
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.920
never paid him, left his job and then never paid him,
591
00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:10.349
never paid me. Um, but we realized so much that
592
00:27:10.650 --> 00:27:14.829
it was basically like business school. Everything we've ever learned from, um,
593
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.819
that situation was everything that we do now like we
594
00:27:19.859 --> 00:27:22.779
don't really work with people like we don't take like
595
00:27:22.819 --> 00:27:26.750
investor like we don't want it's literally just me him
596
00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:29.789
and his brother that's it if anyone wants to come
597
00:27:29.849 --> 00:27:33.450
in nope because we've worked with people before and as
598
00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:38.380
soon as like there's just money makes people different and
599
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.700
at the end of the day they don't actually ever
600
00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:43.460
care about you they only care about themselves yeah so
601
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:47.819
as long as You know, it's just us. Like, we're family.
602
00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:50.240
Everyone says don't work with your family, but for us,
603
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.430
it's been the best thing ever. Yeah. It's, like, fully
604
00:27:54.430 --> 00:27:59.829
100% trust Drew, which is his brother, with our entire lives. Yeah. Like,
605
00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:02.349
he's not going to fuck us. Like, he really isn't.
606
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:04.630
Yeah, I think it's more so, I think family might be,
607
00:28:04.849 --> 00:28:07.130
family's probably better, definitely better than friends.
608
00:28:07.150 --> 00:28:07.869
Yeah.
609
00:28:07.890 --> 00:28:09.819
Because friends, like, creates entitlement.
610
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.180
It just makes the relationship weird, because at some point
611
00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:16.000
in time, you're, Like, I owe you. You owe me.
612
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:20.579
You're not working. Like, it's going to make the friendship weird. Yeah.
613
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:26.069
I think so. Sometimes it doesn't. But, yeah, that was–
614
00:28:26.299 --> 00:28:27.980
I would just say it was like business school for
615
00:28:28.029 --> 00:28:29.930
the first year of our life. Yeah.
616
00:28:29.950 --> 00:28:32.390
I went to a lot of that business school learning
617
00:28:32.470 --> 00:28:33.650
the hard way too.
618
00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:36.269
Well, the dude, like– so we were trying to get
619
00:28:36.410 --> 00:28:38.309
out of it, and he, like, wouldn't let us get
620
00:28:38.390 --> 00:28:42.670
out of it. So he went and bought– So I
621
00:28:43.329 --> 00:28:49.349
owned danalyn.com, but he went and bought like danalynbailey.org.net.this and
622
00:28:49.390 --> 00:28:54.210
started selling his product off my name, even though we
623
00:28:54.329 --> 00:28:55.210
were out.
624
00:28:55.730 --> 00:28:57.950
I get it. I get it. It's just, it's tough.
625
00:28:58.109 --> 00:28:59.730
And the people just like, those people always just go,
626
00:28:59.829 --> 00:29:00.549
it's just business.
627
00:29:00.569 --> 00:29:01.289
Yeah, exactly.
628
00:29:01.650 --> 00:29:04.609
It's just business. So you're just a scumbag for money?
629
00:29:04.849 --> 00:29:05.829
Just business.
630
00:29:05.849 --> 00:29:07.670
Yeah, that's what I always hear. Oh, it's just business.
631
00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:09.630
Like I would have people, I would have people in
632
00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:11.259
my circle at the time asking like, yo, why are
633
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:11.700
you doing this?
634
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.640
Why are you doing that? And their response to that
635
00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:15.059
person would be like, it's just business.
636
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.200
Oh, yeah.
637
00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:19.039
Don't tell Brad. That's what they would say. It's just business.
638
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:19.700
Don't tell Brad.
639
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:26.500
So when we started picking up athletes with him, he
640
00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:30.250
would have his lawyer write these contracts in order just
641
00:29:30.769 --> 00:29:34.450
to fuck them. It would be fine print. And you know,
642
00:29:34.569 --> 00:29:36.130
athletes would be psyched. They're like, oh, my God, I'm
643
00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:40.250
gonna make money um basically wrote so like we can
644
00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:41.309
use your image for.
645
00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:44.089
The rest of our lives in perpetuity.
646
00:29:43.609 --> 00:29:46.039
And then we we started seeing that like oh my
647
00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:49.259
gosh that seems so wrong like you're you're you're literally
648
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:50.559
f * * * ing this dude and he's just
649
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.359
trying to help us and then we started thinking like
650
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:58.099
man well he probably should have read ours a lot
651
00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:02.400
And to this day, if he's even still selling, he
652
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:07.240
probably is still using me as the image because in
653
00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:10.490
the contract, in the fine print somewhere, like very, very,
654
00:30:10.869 --> 00:30:13.829
it was like 50, 30 page thing. And you're like,
655
00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:16.029
what the, I'm not going to read all this. And
656
00:30:16.069 --> 00:30:19.569
we were broke. We were like 22, 23 years old.
657
00:30:19.589 --> 00:30:22.069
We didn't have a lawyer and we didn't have money
658
00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:24.759
to buy a lawyer. So we're here just like two
659
00:30:24.819 --> 00:30:28.109
kids together. signing contracts, and I probably signed my entire
660
00:30:28.150 --> 00:30:31.549
life away. Yeah, so he's probably still using my image.
661
00:30:31.769 --> 00:30:32.789
Not that he's doing well.
662
00:30:32.809 --> 00:30:33.930
Yeah.
663
00:30:34.029 --> 00:30:38.559
It's crazy how it goes, man. So much shit comes
664
00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:40.619
along with making money and how people just switch up
665
00:30:40.660 --> 00:30:41.059
and change.
666
00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:41.500
Oh, yeah.
667
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:43.920
It's different, man. Really fucking different.
668
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.180
I'd like to say you are exactly the same.
669
00:30:46.859 --> 00:30:48.839
Yeah. I've just dealt with a lot.
670
00:30:49.339 --> 00:30:55.220
But I've seen people, like, you know, like, I guess, because...
671
00:30:55.470 --> 00:30:58.420
we've literally known each other for over 10 years, like
672
00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:01.400
from the very beginning and like seeing your success and
673
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.859
like millions, like, I mean, Joe Rogan talks about you,
674
00:31:04.940 --> 00:31:08.920
like how cool is that? But it hasn't, hasn't changed
675
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.210
you at all. Like I haven't seen you in maybe,
676
00:31:12.829 --> 00:31:14.250
I feel like I see you on the internet, so
677
00:31:14.269 --> 00:31:16.230
I feel like I see you, but I haven't like
678
00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:19.569
officially seen you in at least five years. Yeah. Yeah.
679
00:31:20.029 --> 00:31:22.910
And I feel like everything's exactly the same. yeah, I'm
680
00:31:22.930 --> 00:31:25.750
going to go eat some crispy rice after this. Yeah.
681
00:31:26.029 --> 00:31:29.210
It's, it's just, it, I think I've just, I've definitely
682
00:31:29.950 --> 00:31:31.990
gotten to a point where I'm like, I know that
683
00:31:32.049 --> 00:31:34.309
if I'm helping someone, like the chances of them giving
684
00:31:34.329 --> 00:31:35.910
me over is like, it's there. And I'm just like,
685
00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:37.880
I'll do it just cause I'm willing to do it.
686
00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.410
Yeah. You know? Um, or I'm not. Yeah.
687
00:31:40.490 --> 00:31:42.369
Cause before like, that was one of my bigger problems
688
00:31:42.390 --> 00:31:45.109
was number one, I wouldn't tell the truth sooner and
689
00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:47.819
I wouldn't, I was too nice. I was too like
690
00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:50.299
too much leeway. And I'm like, nah, they wouldn't do this.
691
00:31:50.700 --> 00:31:53.529
So now I just draw my lines way sooner. Like,
692
00:31:53.569 --> 00:31:54.829
but to me, as far as me as a person,
693
00:31:54.890 --> 00:31:57.009
it's that's, I'm just, I know.
694
00:31:57.549 --> 00:32:00.890
I'm like way more care. Like I don't trust anybody.
695
00:32:01.289 --> 00:32:01.509
Yeah.
696
00:32:01.569 --> 00:32:04.809
So like my, my, my circle is very small. And
697
00:32:04.849 --> 00:32:08.799
then when you see me like filming or like if
698
00:32:08.859 --> 00:32:11.559
I shoot anything, like you can tell like, okay, that's
699
00:32:11.619 --> 00:32:13.759
probably a good person. Cause like, I'm not going to,
700
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.980
work with anyone that like i don't trust or yeah
701
00:32:18.619 --> 00:32:21.359
because you have to like earn trust for me because
702
00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:24.910
i i have been taken advantage of for many years
703
00:32:24.990 --> 00:32:27.769
like prior to everything yeah so.
704
00:32:27.569 --> 00:32:31.400
Even before all the the fitness Uh, no, no, no.
705
00:32:31.460 --> 00:32:32.980
Fitness is just what made it weird.
706
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:34.900
Yeah. Fitness really, it really breeds.
707
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.779
It definitely just made it weird.
708
00:32:36.859 --> 00:32:39.420
I think because it's, it's the industry that's just, it's
709
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.799
such a, it's such an easy entry point.
710
00:32:42.819 --> 00:32:44.609
Like it's so, there's no barriers. Cause it's like, I
711
00:32:44.630 --> 00:32:46.910
look good. I'm a fitness person. And then like, you
712
00:32:46.930 --> 00:32:48.079
just have people grab it.
713
00:32:48.089 --> 00:32:51.910
It used to be like, it is now. And it's nice.
714
00:32:51.970 --> 00:32:55.910
Cause you know, some people can get mad. Like, I
715
00:32:55.950 --> 00:32:59.430
feel like, competitors get mad that like oh like she's
716
00:32:59.970 --> 00:33:03.519
famous and never even compete she doesn't have any credentials
717
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.660
or anything but like that's cool now like i i
718
00:33:06.779 --> 00:33:10.200
love that you don't need to compete in order to
719
00:33:10.299 --> 00:33:13.400
be in fitness anymore i think that's awesome.
720
00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:14.960
I think that's like sounds corny saying this i think
721
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.440
i was one of the first people who did that
722
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.480
because i did compete and i got more popular when i.
723
00:33:18.460 --> 00:33:20.970
Stopped competing physique right yeah when it first came out
724
00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:23.599
when it first came out 2011 but I got burnt
725
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.519
out of the industry. I need to go review those
726
00:33:25.579 --> 00:33:27.039
pictures again and go look at Bradley Martin.
727
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.480
I got burnt out because I was like, I lost
728
00:33:29.619 --> 00:33:31.339
a show. I remember it was like when they first,
729
00:33:31.579 --> 00:33:33.759
they only did first in the class. But then the
730
00:33:33.819 --> 00:33:35.460
next show after it was like they did first and second,
731
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:36.240
got this pro card.
732
00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:36.799
Oh, yeah.
733
00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:38.740
It was at the USA's. And I remember, you know,
734
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.740
you hear the story like, oh, yeah, this person, this
735
00:33:40.779 --> 00:33:42.599
guy at the time won. His name was Nick Garton.
736
00:33:43.210 --> 00:33:44.430
And he beat me, and I was second.
737
00:33:44.710 --> 00:33:45.069
Fuck Nick.
738
00:33:45.089 --> 00:33:47.859
No, no, not even fuck Nick. I don't even care.
739
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.880
It's more so the industry behind was like, oh, he
740
00:33:50.940 --> 00:33:53.759
was under this person who's connected to this show promoter.
741
00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:57.359
I mean, it's politics, man. To say that it doesn't exist,
742
00:33:57.980 --> 00:34:01.400
the only reason I say sometimes it's not, it's like,
743
00:34:01.460 --> 00:34:04.680
how the fuck did I win? I have no idea.
744
00:34:05.130 --> 00:34:11.949
Because I never did anything. I never... talk to the
745
00:34:11.989 --> 00:34:15.110
right people. I wouldn't go, go to the right gyms.
746
00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:17.329
And I didn't do all the steps.
747
00:34:17.409 --> 00:34:19.050
How like, you know, that that was a thing though.
748
00:34:19.070 --> 00:34:20.309
They're like, you gotta go, go to, go to this gym.
749
00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:22.750
Well, cause you had to have the certain coach, like,
750
00:34:22.769 --> 00:34:26.429
especially like, I feel like it's more prominent in like bikini.
751
00:34:26.789 --> 00:34:28.530
Like you have to go shoot. Like, I remember like
752
00:34:28.590 --> 00:34:31.590
JM used to ask to like shoot with me. I
753
00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:34.860
was like, and I turned them down. I'd be like, no.
754
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.639
And like, I didn't sign with the NPC. Like I
755
00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.059
never signed with them. Like they wanted you to sign
756
00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:44.500
under their. Yeah. uh, whatever agency. And I was like, Nope,
757
00:34:44.579 --> 00:34:47.440
that's weird. And I wouldn't do any of the shoots.
758
00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:50.400
I would just turn them down. But they were never like,
759
00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.039
they were never mean to me. They were all these
760
00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:55.329
happy to see me. But yeah, I don't, I don't know. I, I,
761
00:34:56.219 --> 00:34:59.139
I was like literally the black sheep coming up in
762
00:34:59.179 --> 00:35:02.400
the industry. Cause I didn't do anything they told me
763
00:35:02.460 --> 00:35:05.500
to do. I just sort of like scooted around the outside.
764
00:35:06.110 --> 00:35:08.949
So as much as I want to say like, I mean,
765
00:35:08.989 --> 00:35:11.889
there is, it's like, I mean, there's politics in peewee sports.
766
00:35:11.969 --> 00:35:15.329
It's like, oh, like for real though, it's like this
767
00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:17.900
dad's the coach and his son is best friends with,
768
00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:19.059
like it happens.
769
00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:19.480
It's life.
770
00:35:19.940 --> 00:35:23.760
And it is also a business, like everything.
771
00:35:24.019 --> 00:35:24.739
Yeah.
772
00:35:25.019 --> 00:35:28.159
So to say it doesn't exist, it does. It definitely
773
00:35:28.179 --> 00:35:33.630
does when, you know, there's literally, there would be coaches
774
00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:37.360
that were on the judging panel and, And then judging,
775
00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:38.699
they're judging.
776
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:39.539
Their clients.
777
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:40.480
Their own clients.
778
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.579
It's like, I don't know.
779
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:43.619
I don't know about that.
780
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.099
So I experienced that. I remember being like, this shit.
781
00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:48.320
I was so burnt out on it. But I just
782
00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:49.389
focused on content.
783
00:35:49.730 --> 00:35:50.010
Yeah.
784
00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.170
And then I told this story before. And then they
785
00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.349
start telling me to come. I'm getting popular now. Like
786
00:35:54.510 --> 00:35:56.510
more and more followers. Then they start telling me to
787
00:35:56.590 --> 00:35:57.690
come do their shows.
788
00:35:57.769 --> 00:35:58.550
Like you're going to win.
789
00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:00.690
And I'm like, what the fuck?
790
00:36:01.250 --> 00:36:02.659
I did one. I did one in Texas.
791
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:03.699
Did you win? I won.
792
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:03.880
What?
793
00:36:05.139 --> 00:36:07.559
Yeah, I did. No one ever told me to do
794
00:36:08.019 --> 00:36:09.800
a show. Yeah. You remember Lee Thompson?
795
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:10.340
Yeah.
796
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:11.650
I don't think he's still a part of it.
797
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.800
But it was my experience with it was like, oh,
798
00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:16.780
you guys, it's only about what I can do for
799
00:36:16.820 --> 00:36:19.500
you and not that I just looked actually good. So
800
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:23.550
that's when I was like, this is terrible. Because it's
801
00:36:23.570 --> 00:36:24.929
too subjective of a sport.
802
00:36:24.710 --> 00:36:26.489
Where we can go, well, today we're looking for this.
803
00:36:26.769 --> 00:36:28.369
Hey, you want chicken or fish today?
804
00:36:28.469 --> 00:36:29.449
You guys want chicken?
805
00:36:29.570 --> 00:36:29.969
Okay.
806
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.760
Sorry, fish. Well, these judges on the East Coast, they
807
00:36:33.780 --> 00:36:35.360
like this look. And so that's why you win. And
808
00:36:35.380 --> 00:36:38.280
the justification was always like, you're just picking the people
809
00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:40.070
you like because they're doing something for you.
810
00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:40.619
Yeah.
811
00:36:40.710 --> 00:36:43.010
So I was just like, this, focus on social media.
812
00:36:43.670 --> 00:36:45.760
But I guess to that point, I guess it kind
813
00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:48.219
of goes back to you winning. You did win not
814
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.059
even playing that role because I was always curious if
815
00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:52.719
you played in those parts with people.
816
00:36:52.739 --> 00:36:54.119
Like everyone would go.
817
00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:55.099
You were just that good.
818
00:36:55.659 --> 00:36:55.960
You know?
819
00:36:57.219 --> 00:36:57.619
You were.
820
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:58.260
Just that good.
821
00:36:58.300 --> 00:36:58.659
Like you were.
822
00:36:59.739 --> 00:37:02.659
I remember and you were also so popular though too.
823
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.000
I think you started getting a lot of popularity really
824
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.039
fast on social media.
825
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:06.860
Yeah.
826
00:37:06.900 --> 00:37:08.960
Because you were the first chick that was like jacked
827
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:09.280
and like.
828
00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:13.530
Because I was different. That goes back to like... everything
829
00:37:13.590 --> 00:37:15.710
is like, what's going to set you apart. You have
830
00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:19.289
to be different. And everyone. So even when I was
831
00:37:19.349 --> 00:37:24.010
competing in figure, I, I would get off like before
832
00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:25.989
I even went, cause I didn't go pro and figure
833
00:37:26.449 --> 00:37:30.000
I would be dead last on the figure stage. Absolutely.
834
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.039
I would go to nationals last call outs, but then
835
00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:35.739
I would get off stage and like, there would be
836
00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:39.179
a line for me. And it's like, wait, why are
837
00:37:39.219 --> 00:37:42.940
you guys? They're like, you, your abs, like, cause I
838
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.610
looked different. I didn't look like everyone had long curled hair.
839
00:37:47.789 --> 00:37:50.760
And I was like this jacked little, no boot. Yeah.
840
00:37:50.820 --> 00:37:54.420
Big fake boobs. And I was just like this jacked
841
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.719
little girl with a short bob haircut, like black hair.
842
00:37:57.739 --> 00:38:03.300
Because going through and getting all your, you know, like afterwards,
843
00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:05.789
you go ask the judges, like, what can I work on?
844
00:38:05.789 --> 00:38:06.710
Yeah, how can I improve?
845
00:38:06.789 --> 00:38:07.769
How can I improve?
846
00:38:07.789 --> 00:38:09.750
They're like, instead of putting your hips like this, try
847
00:38:09.889 --> 00:38:10.449
it like that.
848
00:38:10.610 --> 00:38:12.610
Oh, they were just blatantly like, hey, you should go
849
00:38:12.650 --> 00:38:17.670
get a boob job. I was like... okay. But, uh,
850
00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:19.750
and then like, they would be like, cause it is,
851
00:38:19.809 --> 00:38:22.489
it's sort of like a beauty pageant, but with muscles.
852
00:38:22.550 --> 00:38:24.780
So like, they're like, you should grow your hair out.
853
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.670
And like, like, that's.
854
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:27.099
Exactly what it is.
855
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:27.900
Yeah.
856
00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:29.079
It's literally exactly that.
857
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.579
Grow it. Like, cause they wanted long, they liked long hair.
858
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.820
They didn't like my short hair. And I was like, well,
859
00:38:35.019 --> 00:38:37.579
I sort of like my hair. And I think that's
860
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:43.000
the cool part about now, which fitness, like, You know,
861
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.480
I started in this game when girls didn't even really
862
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.190
train like like the first gym I ever went to.
863
00:38:51.210 --> 00:38:53.809
It was like a bodybuilder. It was a bodybuilding gym.
864
00:38:53.849 --> 00:38:56.630
Like it was just all do all jack dudes full
865
00:38:56.670 --> 00:39:00.570
of testosterone. And I just came in. But I've always
866
00:39:00.610 --> 00:39:03.760
sort of been more of a jock anyway, like athlete sports.
867
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.179
I hung out with guys. And so it didn't really feel.
868
00:39:07.769 --> 00:39:10.530
like I wasn't intimidated. Like I just, I just went
869
00:39:10.570 --> 00:39:12.489
with Rob and I did exactly what he did. I
870
00:39:12.530 --> 00:39:16.780
just would follow. And, um, I forget what I was
871
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:17.440
talking about.
872
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:19.539
No, the fitness industry.
873
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.190
Like how I love that, you know, you don't have
874
00:39:24.690 --> 00:39:30.550
to compete anymore. And like maybe, and I love that. Yeah. I,
875
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.559
I was to be on my humble stature, but like,
876
00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:36.079
I was a part of that. Like I was a
877
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:40.679
part of making it okay for a girl to like
878
00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:43.940
be in a gym, to have muscles. Like I was,
879
00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:45.300
I was, I was a part.
880
00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:47.659
I remember that. I remember that a hundred percent.
881
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.949
Cause you, I would, you know, I even, I would
882
00:39:49.969 --> 00:39:52.789
get messages about this, about, cause we would film content together.
883
00:39:52.809 --> 00:39:53.469
I remember we went and.
884
00:39:53.429 --> 00:39:56.289
Did the stuff in the UK. It was like, I
885
00:39:56.309 --> 00:39:58.739
think it was like Kai Green, Phil Heath was there.
886
00:39:58.840 --> 00:39:59.420
You were there.
887
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.880
The giant workout was just a bunch of dudes and me. Yeah. Yeah.
888
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:05.760
I remember that. Those, those were like.
889
00:40:06.300 --> 00:40:07.659
That was the best.
890
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:08.300
Yeah.
891
00:40:08.389 --> 00:40:13.239
That was always fun. But. To go back, like, yeah.
892
00:40:13.940 --> 00:40:19.030
And back then, in order to do well or to be,
893
00:40:19.210 --> 00:40:22.250
I don't know, I guess a fitness model, that's what
894
00:40:22.289 --> 00:40:26.710
I wanted to be. Like on magazines, being a supplement sponsor,
895
00:40:26.730 --> 00:40:30.250
to make money just doing what I liked, which was fitness. Yeah.
896
00:40:30.489 --> 00:40:32.860
You had to compete in order to do that. You
897
00:40:32.900 --> 00:40:34.019
don't need to do that anymore.
898
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:35.280
Yeah, not at all.
899
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.619
Actually, like I usually tell people not to compete because,
900
00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:43.260
you know, what they don't understand is competition definitely like
901
00:40:43.340 --> 00:40:43.980
changes you.
902
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.059
In what sense?
903
00:40:46.099 --> 00:40:51.260
Like just, uh, um, in mental, emotional, how you think
904
00:40:51.300 --> 00:40:55.159
about food, how you think about training. Um, and I
905
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.579
think I have a really good head on my shoulders.
906
00:40:57.840 --> 00:40:59.719
I definitely have a good head on my shoulders because,
907
00:41:00.260 --> 00:41:02.840
you know, I, I was told that, you know, you
908
00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:04.510
look like a dude, you have too many, like I've
909
00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:07.010
been told I'm doing it wrong for so many years,
910
00:41:07.110 --> 00:41:10.139
but I kept following what I thought was, In my head,
911
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.199
I liked my shoulders. I liked my blocky abs or
912
00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:18.630
big legs. I have a really good head on my shoulders,
913
00:41:19.010 --> 00:41:25.110
and especially girls, you know, they listen to people. And, like,
914
00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:27.219
they start working with a coach, and they're like, oh, well,
915
00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:30.199
we're going to put you on this, this, and this to, like,
916
00:41:30.219 --> 00:41:32.320
shred you up. So girls are doing, like, Anovar and
917
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.739
all sorts of things. And they just listen. They just do, oh,
918
00:41:36.739 --> 00:41:41.530
you got to– wear this outfit. I remember working when
919
00:41:41.550 --> 00:41:44.349
I worked with MHP, I went to my first photo
920
00:41:44.369 --> 00:41:46.429
shoot and they like gave me this tiny little outfit.
921
00:41:46.449 --> 00:41:49.389
And I was like, I'm not wearing that. Like, I'm
922
00:41:49.429 --> 00:41:51.679
just not like I'll wear the sports bra, but I'm
923
00:41:51.699 --> 00:41:55.300
going to wear these sweatpants over top of this little,
924
00:41:55.659 --> 00:42:00.139
like tiny little shorts that were not covering my butt. Like,
925
00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.239
and fitness is just one of those things where like,
926
00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:06.929
you know, it churn, it literally churns through girls.
927
00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:07.550
Yeah.
928
00:42:07.630 --> 00:42:08.590
Like for real.
929
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.860
It's fucking crazy. And now the OnlyFans stuff. You made
930
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.320
that joke. You came in here like, what are we
931
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.460
going to talk about? I'm not OnlyFans.
932
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.449
I know. I said I'm a different clientele than I'm
933
00:42:19.570 --> 00:42:25.530
used to seeing on here. Yeah, the OnlyFans. Again, that
934
00:42:25.570 --> 00:42:30.730
scares me. The OnlyFans model. Why? Just the future, honestly.
935
00:42:31.130 --> 00:42:33.090
The future of what? Of their lives or just of
936
00:42:33.130 --> 00:42:34.409
that sort of.
937
00:42:34.449 --> 00:42:39.190
Honestly, just women in general. It's like, Picture, like, in
938
00:42:39.190 --> 00:42:40.710
10 years, do you think women are going to be
939
00:42:40.730 --> 00:42:44.630
in the workplace? If they can just take their clothes
940
00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:47.639
off and make more money? It sucks.
941
00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:49.039
Yeah.
942
00:42:49.099 --> 00:42:54.989
We're actually making, like, almost like prostitution, like, normal. Because
943
00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:56.269
it is. It's like a form of prostitution.
944
00:42:56.670 --> 00:42:58.590
Selling some form of your body.
945
00:42:58.650 --> 00:43:01.889
Yeah. You're getting paid. You're getting DMs like, hey, send
946
00:43:01.929 --> 00:43:07.559
me a photo of you shoving this in your vagina. Well,
947
00:43:07.579 --> 00:43:14.820
how much? We're literally making prostitution normal. And that's scary. Yeah.
948
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.099
And like I picture I have a niece. She's six
949
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:22.320
years old, seven years old. And like, you know, kids
950
00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:23.909
like growing up now, it's like, what do you want
951
00:43:23.929 --> 00:43:26.309
to be? And they want to be like YouTubers. So
952
00:43:26.369 --> 00:43:28.989
in 10 years, when you ask a kid what they
953
00:43:29.010 --> 00:43:31.380
want to be, or like a girl, it's like, I
954
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.599
want to be an only model. It's like, oh, that
955
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:39.539
is so scary. It's sad. It's sad, but it's all
956
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:45.969
your fault. Men, not you personally. It's men, men in general,
957
00:43:46.010 --> 00:43:48.530
because if they just stop paying for it, it's funny
958
00:43:48.550 --> 00:43:51.590
because they'll sit there. Men are usually the first ones
959
00:43:52.070 --> 00:43:54.539
that are like, making fun of girls are like, ah,
960
00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:57.820
well like you're slow, whatever. Right. But you're the, you're
961
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:02.190
the ones paying the money that it's supplying. You can
962
00:44:02.230 --> 00:44:05.369
sit there and talk shit all you want. Like, yeah,
963
00:44:05.389 --> 00:44:08.590
she's just an only model and not take her seriously. Right.
964
00:44:09.050 --> 00:44:11.409
But she's one just taking money from you.
965
00:44:11.849 --> 00:44:14.989
It's interesting though, because like prostitutes are like the idea
966
00:44:15.030 --> 00:44:16.550
of someone selling their body like that.
967
00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:17.510
I mean, it's been around forever.
968
00:44:17.670 --> 00:44:18.050
Oh yeah.
969
00:44:18.349 --> 00:44:19.750
It's not like it's a new thing, but it is
970
00:44:19.809 --> 00:44:22.619
something that we're starting to normalize because of the, the
971
00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:23.480
digital age.
972
00:44:23.539 --> 00:44:26.739
Well, think about it. It's like, you would think of,
973
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:32.460
you know, like a stripper, like we're taking like average girls, just,
974
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.019
just girls, like any female. And you'd be like, I
975
00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:39.079
don't know, five, 10 years ago, you're like, Oh, you
976
00:44:39.099 --> 00:44:40.820
want to be a stripper? Like, Oh my God, no,
977
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.659
that's crazy. But now it's like, is it that crazy?
978
00:44:45.650 --> 00:44:49.590
We're just making it, I guess, safer because you're like
979
00:44:49.630 --> 00:44:51.769
doing it in the safety of your own home. But like,
980
00:44:52.860 --> 00:44:55.260
I don't know. I've had some stalkers like that.
981
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:56.840
It's interesting.
982
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:02.070
I think it's, you know, like girls aren't going to
983
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.789
like want to like actually have a skill set.
984
00:45:05.349 --> 00:45:08.829
Yeah. That's the bigger picture thing.
985
00:45:08.949 --> 00:45:09.929
Yeah.
986
00:45:09.969 --> 00:45:14.550
Where it just kind of becomes our like, because, you know,
987
00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:18.840
to a lot of people, obviously, everyone has value, right?
988
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.420
But is that your only form of value is the question?
989
00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:23.130
And that's, that's like the thing where.
990
00:45:23.150 --> 00:45:25.570
That's the sad, I think that's the sad part for me.
991
00:45:25.630 --> 00:45:30.550
It's like, oh, like one, like I just have very,
992
00:45:31.530 --> 00:45:34.519
I mean, I'm super stubborn. I'm like very set in
993
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:39.820
my ways, values, morals, this, like, you know, um, like
994
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.460
I could make probably, I could make a really, I
995
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.460
could make a lot of money. Yeah.
996
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:44.820
You'd make a ton of money. I could make a
997
00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:45.420
lot of money.
998
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.019
Do you need a manager?
999
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:49.119
Are you going to f * * * me over
1000
00:45:49.139 --> 00:45:49.460
and take.
1001
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:54.809
No. No, but I think that's the sad part is like, oh,
1002
00:45:54.869 --> 00:46:01.820
like that's your value is just based on your body.
1003
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.960
That sucks, not your brain. And a lot of those girls,
1004
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440
like they're probably, there's probably a lot of talented people
1005
00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:13.659
in there, but they're really like realizing like, oh, like
1006
00:46:13.699 --> 00:46:16.369
I've seen so many weird Instagram things where it's like,
1007
00:46:16.690 --> 00:46:20.239
like a, like a doctor or, quits like being a
1008
00:46:20.300 --> 00:46:23.599
doctor and starts, uh, there was one of her, like, uh,
1009
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.099
her just barking as a dog on OnlyFans. Did you
1010
00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:30.159
see that? I don't know why that one just sprung up.
1011
00:46:30.179 --> 00:46:32.429
I was like, yeah, but that's sad. It's like, yeah,
1012
00:46:32.449 --> 00:46:34.690
we're not going to have female doctors cause they're just
1013
00:46:34.710 --> 00:46:37.510
going to be, well, I'm just going to show some
1014
00:46:37.849 --> 00:46:39.570
ass and we're fine.
1015
00:46:39.849 --> 00:46:43.090
The thing is the, the other, like what's the other
1016
00:46:43.150 --> 00:46:47.119
value gets overshadowed because like, like on social media, uh,
1017
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.000
in general, it's like, what is getting the engagement? So
1018
00:46:50.059 --> 00:46:52.199
it's this really weird cat 22. Cause like you said,
1019
00:46:52.340 --> 00:46:53.860
the guys who were the first to be like, you're
1020
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:55.780
also the first ones to buy the product.
1021
00:46:55.820 --> 00:46:57.559
They're the ones supplying.
1022
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.539
So then you, then you create this system where like,
1023
00:47:00.699 --> 00:47:03.119
even on the social, it's like also at the same time,
1024
00:47:03.179 --> 00:47:05.389
what gets more clicks, the girl bent over with their
1025
00:47:05.630 --> 00:47:09.199
showing or the girl who's like, in a dress going
1026
00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:11.280
to work or something like you're, it's going to be
1027
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:12.940
the girl who's more explicit.
1028
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:13.179
Oh.
1029
00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.760
And I, I even see that with my own, like
1030
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.539
sometimes I just test things out just to test the waters.
1031
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.239
Like I was in a bathing suit in Cabo. I
1032
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.960
was like, I'm just going to see what happens. Oh, I,
1033
00:47:23.530 --> 00:47:25.409
it was, I don't do butt shots, but it was
1034
00:47:25.610 --> 00:47:28.130
just a bathing shoes. I was just in a bathing suit.
1035
00:47:28.489 --> 00:47:31.269
Of course that does well. But if the only thing
1036
00:47:31.329 --> 00:47:34.030
I cared about was like, Oh my gosh, how many
1037
00:47:34.130 --> 00:47:37.369
likes am I going to get on this? my butt photo,
1038
00:47:37.750 --> 00:47:41.090
I'd much rather like help someone.
1039
00:47:41.380 --> 00:47:44.780
Well, this is, that's where the problem starts to go in. Like,
1040
00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:47.360
cause this girl who has the, the only cell and whatever,
1041
00:47:47.420 --> 00:47:49.909
like this, there could be something else that she has
1042
00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:51.150
a lot of value to give.
1043
00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:51.809
Exactly.
1044
00:47:51.849 --> 00:47:54.269
And then she second guesses it. Cause when she posts
1045
00:47:54.309 --> 00:47:57.030
the picture, that's not getting as much engagement, she.
1046
00:47:57.010 --> 00:48:01.099
Goes, Oh wait, my training posts do like are horrible. Like, Oh,
1047
00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:04.219
I'll do like full workout videos, like a full workout.
1048
00:48:04.300 --> 00:48:06.539
And then in the caption, like write the full workout.
1049
00:48:08.139 --> 00:48:10.369
But I know people look at it and they like,
1050
00:48:10.690 --> 00:48:12.909
they actually use it. They say like, I love that
1051
00:48:12.949 --> 00:48:16.579
you like give this kind of content that, insights on
1052
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.179
it are horrible. I'm not, it doesn't. But if I
1053
00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:23.340
would post like a butt shot, it would, it would
1054
00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:25.820
be 40 times more. Yeah.
1055
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:26.360
So it's weird.
1056
00:48:26.420 --> 00:48:29.679
Cause it's like, it's, it's convincing people like the algorithm,
1057
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:31.000
the system itself is convincing.
1058
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.159
Your value is based on, well, dollars, but also like
1059
00:48:35.449 --> 00:48:38.909
in an Instagram sense, it's based on like how many
1060
00:48:38.949 --> 00:48:42.400
likes you get. So it, is it a mental challenge
1061
00:48:42.460 --> 00:48:44.699
for me to like, you know, why not just go
1062
00:48:44.739 --> 00:48:46.909
this route? If I, if all I cared about was
1063
00:48:46.989 --> 00:48:51.309
likes and follows and all that, then yeah, I would
1064
00:48:51.349 --> 00:48:53.730
go that route and I would be a lot more sexy,
1065
00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:55.849
but I don't give a fuck.
1066
00:48:55.929 --> 00:48:56.150
Yeah.
1067
00:48:56.510 --> 00:48:59.829
I'd much rather add value to someone's life. Yeah.
1068
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.480
So is that, I'm just different. No, no, it's good.
1069
00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:03.980
I mean, it's good.
1070
00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:07.059
So the question, I think that's the scary part is like,
1071
00:49:07.420 --> 00:49:10.880
there's no value to that. Like, It sucks.
1072
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.269
And I've talked to girls who have done the OF
1073
00:49:14.309 --> 00:49:16.369
thing for so long, or they did certain types of content.
1074
00:49:16.389 --> 00:49:19.179
And they like, some really love it. Some really own it.
1075
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.949
And some are like, I wish I never did this.
1076
00:49:21.650 --> 00:49:24.610
And then they find themselves stuck in like that, that
1077
00:49:24.650 --> 00:49:27.909
like mode of like, okay, well, you know, if I
1078
00:49:27.949 --> 00:49:30.309
don't keep doing this, I don't get the engagements. Then
1079
00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:32.829
they feel like they're losing everything. So then you get stuck.
1080
00:49:33.750 --> 00:49:37.369
It's stuck in that vicious cycle. And that's what, we're
1081
00:49:37.469 --> 00:49:41.230
all programmed. That's what social media is programming us to like,
1082
00:49:41.269 --> 00:49:44.710
did you watch a, what is that? Black mirror? Yeah. Like, uh,
1083
00:49:44.730 --> 00:49:49.130
the black mirror episode where like, um, I think I,
1084
00:49:49.420 --> 00:49:51.619
I can't remember it, but it was based on likes
1085
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.639
and like every day you're like trying to get the
1086
00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:57.940
most likes and the most follows. And, um, but that's
1087
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:03.050
like literally what they're programming us to care about is just,
1088
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.070
likes and follows. Like your value is just based on
1089
00:50:07.449 --> 00:50:10.489
how many likes and follows you get. And that's, that's,
1090
00:50:10.690 --> 00:50:13.429
that's the sad part. Right. Is it hard not to
1091
00:50:13.489 --> 00:50:16.389
think about that when I like posts? Yes. But at
1092
00:50:16.429 --> 00:50:18.550
the end of the day, I'm trying to think like, okay,
1093
00:50:18.710 --> 00:50:22.110
you know, I don't give a and I'm doing really well.
1094
00:50:22.269 --> 00:50:25.550
And if I can, if I can help somebody instead
1095
00:50:25.590 --> 00:50:28.789
of just like, Oh, I'll post this picture. Cause it's
1096
00:50:28.809 --> 00:50:30.349
going to get a ton of likes. Yeah.
1097
00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:33.119
Well, so now it's interesting to have this conversation because you,
1098
00:50:33.139 --> 00:50:35.639
you're doing really well, but you've developed stuff over many
1099
00:50:35.699 --> 00:50:37.909
years to be able to say that. So now we
1100
00:50:37.949 --> 00:50:40.050
talk about the whole new people who are like, they,
1101
00:50:40.570 --> 00:50:43.590
to even get a footing to do really well, it's 10,000
1102
00:50:43.590 --> 00:50:44.250
times harder.
1103
00:50:44.590 --> 00:50:45.429
It is.
1104
00:50:45.730 --> 00:50:46.289
It really is.
1105
00:50:46.670 --> 00:50:48.150
It's like, they almost feel like they have to take
1106
00:50:48.170 --> 00:50:51.570
the easy route. So the platforms themselves are like, in
1107
00:50:51.610 --> 00:50:55.059
a sense, not making anyone do anything, but are pushing
1108
00:50:55.099 --> 00:50:58.400
people towards that direction. So it's like, how do you,
1109
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:01.530
how do you as a woman combat that? You know,
1110
00:51:01.630 --> 00:51:02.469
or even as a guy.
1111
00:51:02.489 --> 00:51:07.610
I mean, to me, when I don't think the likes
1112
00:51:07.690 --> 00:51:10.670
and follows actually matter because those are the people that
1113
00:51:10.789 --> 00:51:14.639
aren't actually going to be buying from you. Like, I
1114
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:19.380
don't have I have a great like two million followers.
1115
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:24.139
It's absolutely amazing. but I built that over like 15
1116
00:51:24.139 --> 00:51:27.079
years and it is harder. Like if you're just getting
1117
00:51:27.099 --> 00:51:30.050
into social media now, there's so many more people on it.
1118
00:51:30.099 --> 00:51:32.489
Like we got in when like there wasn't as many people.
1119
00:51:32.570 --> 00:51:38.610
So that obviously helped. Um, but I, in my head, it's,
1120
00:51:39.530 --> 00:51:43.150
you want to build like a core group that like
1121
00:51:43.309 --> 00:51:45.909
follow you for a specific reason. If you're trying to
1122
00:51:45.969 --> 00:51:49.679
sell something. So just because you get a, you have,
1123
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.929
10 million followers, your rate of return is usually your ROI.
1124
00:51:55.489 --> 00:51:58.070
The more followers you have, your ROI is usually a
1125
00:51:58.469 --> 00:52:02.230
lot less. That's just how it is. When we work
1126
00:52:02.329 --> 00:52:07.530
with micro-influencers, do the best. When we work with them
1127
00:52:07.570 --> 00:52:11.900
for flag or even supplement lines, it's because they have 10,000
1128
00:52:11.900 --> 00:52:19.400
real followers versus someone that has 3 million the followers
1129
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.300
that are just, I don't even know where they came from.
1130
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.150
Some of them are even bought maybe because that was
1131
00:52:24.190 --> 00:52:26.429
like a thing. I don't know if people still buy followers.
1132
00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:29.389
People still buy followers, people buy views, people buy likes,
1133
00:52:29.429 --> 00:52:31.690
people do everything. You can buy anything nowadays.
1134
00:52:31.929 --> 00:52:35.639
Yeah. Like on streaming platforms, on Instagram, on YouTube.
1135
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.599
But at least as a business owner, like working with athletes,
1136
00:52:40.139 --> 00:52:44.139
the best athletes to work with generally are in that like,
1137
00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:48.059
You know, 5,000 to like 80,000 range. Yeah.
1138
00:52:48.099 --> 00:52:49.599
And you know why I think that is? I mean,
1139
00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:50.980
I think you'll agree.
1140
00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:53.260
Because they're real people. Yeah.
1141
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.119
And I think because the people who are making the
1142
00:52:56.179 --> 00:52:59.349
content and the people who are like those micro influencers
1143
00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:02.190
are really putting their effort and their energy into like
1144
00:53:02.210 --> 00:53:03.969
providing value to those people.
1145
00:53:04.090 --> 00:53:06.449
And answering. It all comes down to value. Yeah.
1146
00:53:07.090 --> 00:53:09.449
Answering those messages, like really trying to engage with the
1147
00:53:09.469 --> 00:53:12.079
people who engage with them. Cause then you create real relationships,
1148
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.280
not like, you know, hi, how are you? Good to
1149
00:53:14.300 --> 00:53:16.639
see you today relationships, but enough where someone gets a
1150
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.059
response and maybe some responses back and they're like, that
1151
00:53:19.099 --> 00:53:21.760
person really with me. So that's why those people resonate
1152
00:53:21.780 --> 00:53:23.280
and do so much better. And I've seen the same
1153
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.889
thing for sure. It's always the people who add value
1154
00:53:26.969 --> 00:53:31.050
outside of just this, just that. And that's, that's the
1155
00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:33.050
thing that you know, when we started talking about this
1156
00:53:33.150 --> 00:53:35.230
OF thing that gets so interesting, cause these girls, like
1157
00:53:35.349 --> 00:53:37.550
there's definitely, they, I'm sure some of them and some
1158
00:53:37.610 --> 00:53:40.050
not have value outside of it, but it's easier to
1159
00:53:40.090 --> 00:53:41.550
go to this one. But it's like, if you just
1160
00:53:41.730 --> 00:53:44.889
try to, I don't know, if you're a fitness girl,
1161
00:53:44.909 --> 00:53:47.269
just do an only make a program, try and create
1162
00:53:47.309 --> 00:53:49.530
value for a woman and not just for men.
1163
00:53:49.630 --> 00:53:50.949
And then slowly over time.
1164
00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:53.860
And that's where it comes out. Value is the most
1165
00:53:53.929 --> 00:53:57.159
important part, at least for me. Cause I mean, I
1166
00:53:57.579 --> 00:54:00.929
don't know what they're selling or, But you have to
1167
00:54:00.969 --> 00:54:04.349
base it like, so I'm selling a training app. So
1168
00:54:04.869 --> 00:54:08.230
if I'm just posting like half naked pictures of myself,
1169
00:54:09.309 --> 00:54:13.239
the people that I'm bringing to my page, they don't
1170
00:54:13.300 --> 00:54:17.900
care about my training app. They just care about the
1171
00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:20.559
naked pictures of me. So if I'm trying to sell
1172
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.530
a training app, I need to sell, I need to
1173
00:54:23.610 --> 00:54:27.050
post content based on what I'm selling. Yeah.
1174
00:54:27.309 --> 00:54:30.460
So. Yeah. I just think, yeah, it's just, it's a weird,
1175
00:54:30.500 --> 00:54:31.199
it's a weird time.
1176
00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:33.280
If you're just selling your body, then fine. Just sell
1177
00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:33.719
your body.
1178
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.760
Yeah. It's a fucking weird, it's just such a weird time.
1179
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.099
I think it's a boss move that like, yeah, I
1180
00:54:39.139 --> 00:54:41.920
make money and I can keep my clothes on. Yeah.
1181
00:54:42.099 --> 00:54:43.099
Suck my dick. Yeah.
1182
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.099
You've done that. You've done that. You've been doing that.
1183
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.820
I've been doing that. Yeah. I get that question when
1184
00:54:47.860 --> 00:54:50.920
I do the, the like cue, the ask me a
1185
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.960
question on Instagram. It's like, when are you doing? When
1186
00:54:53.980 --> 00:54:56.519
are you doing? I usually trick them. Like I'll put
1187
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.539
like a, uh, like a butt picture. And I just
1188
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.039
link them to my, my, my training because technically it
1189
00:55:03.139 --> 00:55:05.619
is my only, those are my fans and they only
1190
00:55:05.659 --> 00:55:09.760
get to see my content. $ 7. It's not that expensive.
1191
00:55:09.780 --> 00:55:11.800
I'm going to say I was, I was, I've had
1192
00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:12.699
some really.
1193
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.739
Guys get mad. They're like, what the fuck is this?
1194
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.199
I've had some really creative ideas for that, for like trolling.
1195
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.530
Oh, I always do. And then sometimes I'm just a
1196
00:55:21.570 --> 00:55:23.780
bitch and I just say like, oh, I actually make
1197
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:26.400
really great money by keeping it. And I can keep
1198
00:55:26.460 --> 00:55:28.559
my clothes on. Yeah. That's amazing.
1199
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.320
Let me run to the bathroom real quick. I have
1200
00:55:30.340 --> 00:55:32.280
to go to the bathroom like a thousand times an episode.
1201
00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:37.909
But speaking of easy. I'm not. I said I'm not.
1202
00:55:37.969 --> 00:55:39.050
I don't think you're not.
1203
00:55:39.150 --> 00:55:39.510
No, no.
1204
00:55:39.949 --> 00:55:43.489
I don't think you are. Excuse me, rather. Stairways. We
1205
00:55:43.510 --> 00:55:45.210
got to ask you about it. Oh, yes.
1206
00:55:45.230 --> 00:55:46.530
Stairways question.
1207
00:55:46.570 --> 00:55:47.679
Because it's easy, right?
1208
00:55:47.699 --> 00:55:48.719
Oh, it's so easy. I'm waiting.
1209
00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:52.300
So, I mean, I love it. Be honest.
1210
00:55:52.659 --> 00:55:55.519
Yeah. Love it. Let's do a drug test right now.
1211
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:56.500
When did you start staring?
1212
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:02.329
Oh my God, Bradley, stop it. You know, Kenny KO,
1213
00:56:02.409 --> 00:56:05.469
I actually changed him. Like, you know, Kenny KO, he
1214
00:56:05.489 --> 00:56:08.050
goes around and asks everybody. So he was like, he
1215
00:56:08.429 --> 00:56:11.389
for sure thought I was on drugs. Like, and then
1216
00:56:11.429 --> 00:56:16.179
he met me in person. I think that's, that's where that's,
1217
00:56:17.210 --> 00:56:19.670
where I shine. Like that's why I used to go
1218
00:56:19.710 --> 00:56:22.929
to so many expos because online, like in pictures, like
1219
00:56:22.949 --> 00:56:25.369
the picture I posted at your gym yesterday, I'd be like.
1220
00:56:25.449 --> 00:56:26.349
Oh, for sure.
1221
00:56:26.929 --> 00:56:27.409
Drugs.
1222
00:56:27.889 --> 00:56:28.989
Because, because.
1223
00:56:29.690 --> 00:56:32.929
Yeah. You just like, you're not like online. I look
1224
00:56:33.809 --> 00:56:37.909
so much bigger than I am. And like, if you
1225
00:56:37.969 --> 00:56:40.849
stand me next to another girl, then it's like, Oh,
1226
00:56:40.889 --> 00:56:42.929
she actually is pretty tiny. Like, you know, you've met
1227
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:47.829
Kristen Nunn. When you look at it, she's smaller than
1228
00:56:48.050 --> 00:56:51.650
I am standing next to each other. Like her muscle
1229
00:56:51.690 --> 00:56:54.230
bellies are a lot bigger, but she is a tiny
1230
00:56:54.269 --> 00:56:58.699
little person just cause you know, you're not putting like,
1231
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.480
you don't, you're, you're just looking at a picture and
1232
00:57:00.500 --> 00:57:01.059
you can't.
1233
00:57:00.900 --> 00:57:03.380
Tell perspective perspective.
1234
00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:07.219
So when, uh, you see me in person, like, Oh,
1235
00:57:08.570 --> 00:57:10.079
I kind of let people down a little bit cause
1236
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:11.739
they probably think I'm a lot bigger than I am.
1237
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.699
Most people think I'm like five, five, eight, five, nine,
1238
00:57:14.739 --> 00:57:17.920
like a buck 80. I'm like, no, five, four, Amazon.
1239
00:57:18.739 --> 00:57:21.739
So why, like, I mean, I guess it just obviously
1240
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:22.739
just comes down to genetics.
1241
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.860
You're just cause and, and also I guess.
1242
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.360
I'd like to say I have really good genetics, but
1243
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:34.159
I also have like, uh, Not great. I like, I
1244
00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:36.329
feel like I'm like right in between. Cause there's parts
1245
00:57:36.349 --> 00:57:40.670
of my body where like, like my legs could not
1246
00:57:40.769 --> 00:57:43.690
like competing. I could not like, even now to this day,
1247
00:57:43.730 --> 00:57:46.889
like I don't have separation of legs. Cause naturally that's
1248
00:57:46.949 --> 00:57:50.309
where women hold their water. Their fat is generally in
1249
00:57:50.349 --> 00:57:54.239
the lower portion of your hips, your glutes and legs.
1250
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:57.500
Um, but you've never done anything.
1251
00:57:57.579 --> 00:57:57.820
Nope.
1252
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:58.940
No peptides.
1253
00:57:59.000 --> 00:57:59.699
Nope. Nope.
1254
00:58:01.550 --> 00:58:02.829
A little wake up in the morning, a little Anuar?
1255
00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:03.530
You wish.
1256
00:58:03.789 --> 00:58:04.489
Damn, I do wish.
1257
00:58:04.869 --> 00:58:05.030
Yeah.
1258
00:58:05.050 --> 00:58:07.090
I wonder what you would have looked like.
1259
00:58:07.289 --> 00:58:10.869
Oh, I would be Iris Kyle, for Christ's sakes. You've
1260
00:58:10.909 --> 00:58:13.300
seen me train, right? I've trained with you.
1261
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.219
Yeah, I think, you know, because after all the years
1262
00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:19.480
of doing it, there's definitely some tells where you're like, okay.
1263
00:58:19.500 --> 00:58:21.099
Like, you see some people that say, oh, I'm natural.
1264
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.739
It's like, all right, buddy, you're not. Or girl, obviously
1265
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:24.090
you're not.
1266
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.510
I think the thing that people fail to recognize with, like,
1267
00:58:28.260 --> 00:58:29.940
Cause I've had buddies who have taken gear and they
1268
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.619
think like, Oh, I'm just going to, I'm going to
1269
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:33.300
look like a bodybuilder in three months.
1270
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:34.980
And they're like, it doesn't work that way.
1271
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:36.039
It doesn't work like that.
1272
00:58:36.219 --> 00:58:39.239
No, but also just genetically speaking, like I've met people
1273
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.880
where you're like, I know for a fact, this person
1274
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:46.889
doesn't take stuff. And I'm like, Holy shit. Like their genetics, they're,
1275
00:58:47.130 --> 00:58:49.730
they're just insane. Like some people are just super gifted.
1276
00:58:49.949 --> 00:58:54.829
So I've also been an athlete my entire life. Yeah. Like, uh,
1277
00:58:54.909 --> 00:58:57.769
I was on the swim team at like five years old. Like,
1278
00:58:58.289 --> 00:59:01.489
waking up, going to swim practice with like the older kids.
1279
00:59:02.010 --> 00:59:08.909
I played soccer, basketball, field hockey, swimming, track, and softball.
1280
00:59:08.969 --> 00:59:13.960
Literally played everything, good at everything. I'm an athlete. Just
1281
00:59:13.980 --> 00:59:19.960
like you. You're a freak athlete. When I started training,
1282
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:24.400
I already had probably from swimming, I have a little
1283
00:59:24.420 --> 00:59:28.059
broader shoulders. From years and years of soccer, I already
1284
00:59:28.139 --> 00:59:31.440
have bigger legs. And then when I started lifting, I
1285
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.460
just lifted. I didn't lift like a girl. I lifted
1286
00:59:35.500 --> 00:59:36.030
like a boy.
1287
00:59:36.050 --> 00:59:36.570
Like the guys do.
1288
00:59:36.699 --> 00:59:40.010
And maybe I do put on muscle a little bit
1289
00:59:40.110 --> 00:59:41.710
easier than most girls.
1290
00:59:42.130 --> 00:59:43.110
Yeah.
1291
00:59:43.750 --> 00:59:46.429
But I've also been like thinking back, like I started
1292
00:59:46.489 --> 00:59:50.989
training in 2000. Like I started lifting in like 2003
1293
00:59:50.989 --> 00:59:53.360
or 4. Like 20. Yeah, like 20. Yeah.
1294
01:00:00.340 --> 01:00:01.639
And this is after years of sports.
1295
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.119
Yeah. So like 20. So I've been lifting six to
1296
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.280
seven days a week for like the last 18 to
1297
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:15.420
20 years. Like I will say, yeah, 19 years, 19 years.
1298
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.179
And this is as big as I get. Don't you
1299
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:20.070
think I would be bigger, Bradley? Yeah.
1300
01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:20.820
Come on now.
1301
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:20.929
Yeah.
1302
01:00:21.150 --> 01:00:22.489
Technically. Yeah.
1303
01:00:22.769 --> 01:00:26.969
Yeah. I feel like, uh, yeah, I just feel like
1304
01:00:26.989 --> 01:00:29.570
I would be a lot bigger. So that is actually
1305
01:00:29.610 --> 01:00:32.969
why I worked with George Farah. Once I like I
1306
01:00:33.230 --> 01:00:37.329
did all my own preps throughout all the years. I
1307
01:00:37.369 --> 01:00:38.130
did my own diet.
1308
01:00:38.170 --> 01:00:38.369
I did.
1309
01:00:38.449 --> 01:00:42.010
I still do. I did all my own training. The
1310
01:00:42.050 --> 01:00:44.309
only reason I worked with George Farah because he was
1311
01:00:44.349 --> 01:00:46.389
the only person that believed me. He was like, oh,
1312
01:00:46.809 --> 01:00:50.389
he's worked with tons and tons of people. I met
1313
01:00:50.489 --> 01:00:52.269
him in Alaska.
1314
01:00:52.429 --> 01:00:54.650
He's worked with people on steroids and off steroids, obviously.
1315
01:00:54.670 --> 01:00:57.489
Yeah. Yeah. I know. So he can tell, like he
1316
01:00:57.510 --> 01:01:02.659
can tell he's so smart. Like he is brilliant, brilliant man. Um,
1317
01:01:02.739 --> 01:01:04.739
I met him in Alaska and I trained with him
1318
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.940
and afterwards, and I had just went pro, like I
1319
01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:12.159
did that somehow by myself. I don't know how. Um,
1320
01:01:12.449 --> 01:01:14.010
and that was when I was like, I feel like
1321
01:01:14.130 --> 01:01:15.489
now that I'm a pro, like, I feel like I
1322
01:01:15.510 --> 01:01:18.630
need a coach. Like, I don't actually know what I'm doing.
1323
01:01:18.730 --> 01:01:21.750
I'm just guess working. Like I, I'm doing all my,
1324
01:01:22.030 --> 01:01:25.210
I was just on bodybuilding.com like researching, like how to
1325
01:01:25.230 --> 01:01:28.889
dehydrate yourself, like how to get water out. Like I
1326
01:01:29.030 --> 01:01:33.030
was doing all my own like research and trial and error. And, uh,
1327
01:01:33.110 --> 01:01:36.739
finally once I went pro, I was like, maybe that's like,
1328
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.440
I want to be serious. Like I want to get
1329
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:40.400
to the Olympia. Like I want to get to the
1330
01:01:40.579 --> 01:01:44.469
bigger stages. So I, uh, There were a couple coaches.
1331
01:01:44.530 --> 01:01:46.769
I'm not going to, like, say names. But, like, immediately
1332
01:01:46.829 --> 01:01:50.469
I told them, like, my issues was my lower body. Like,
1333
01:01:50.510 --> 01:01:53.329
I couldn't separate my legs. And what?
1334
01:01:53.369 --> 01:01:54.349
They're like, what gear are you on?
1335
01:01:54.369 --> 01:01:57.110
Well, they're like, oh, well, just, you know, you have
1336
01:01:57.130 --> 01:01:59.199
to be on Anovar. And then it just goes away.
1337
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:03.400
I was like, I can't work with you. Because I
1338
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:07.480
know what it does to girls. It's not good. And
1339
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.860
that's why you see, especially girls in the fitness industry,
1340
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.860
you see them... For two or three years, and then
1341
01:02:15.900 --> 01:02:16.920
you don't see them anymore.
1342
01:02:17.019 --> 01:02:17.320
Yeah.
1343
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:22.449
Because it wrecks girls. Destroys your hormones. You're a f
1344
01:02:22.449 --> 01:02:25.260
* * *. And, like, once your voice changes, it
1345
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.960
doesn't go back. No. Just, like, you're done. But you
1346
01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:33.730
can tell just, like, in their skin, their hair, their voice. Like,
1347
01:02:33.909 --> 01:02:37.530
even just, to me, the skin's usually the thing that
1348
01:02:38.030 --> 01:02:39.969
I notice the most. Like, I don't know.
1349
01:02:40.909 --> 01:02:41.670
Thinness of it.
1350
01:02:42.070 --> 01:02:42.449
Yeah.
1351
01:02:42.469 --> 01:02:46.860
Yeah. It just looks almost, I want to say like leathery.
1352
01:02:47.019 --> 01:02:49.489
I don't know. There's, it's just like, looks different. Plus
1353
01:02:49.510 --> 01:02:51.829
like if they had like acne and they're like, that's
1354
01:02:51.869 --> 01:02:54.449
a sure sign. It's like, you got, your back is
1355
01:02:54.489 --> 01:02:57.090
just full of acne. Like how old are you? Like
1356
01:02:57.130 --> 01:02:59.570
we're not in middle school anymore. Your back shouldn't be
1357
01:02:59.610 --> 01:03:02.489
covered in acne. Like that's not good.
1358
01:03:03.050 --> 01:03:07.300
So, I mean, do you think it's, do you think
1359
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:08.440
it's more.
1360
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.780
Prevalent now? Probably in this space because of social media?
1361
01:03:13.210 --> 01:03:14.130
Like steroid usage.
1362
01:03:14.769 --> 01:03:15.070
Yeah.
1363
01:03:15.590 --> 01:03:18.469
Well, I mean, think of like all the kit, like
1364
01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:21.389
you have like, you know, like the Sam Selleck's like
1365
01:03:21.710 --> 01:03:23.329
that dude is what? 20.
1366
01:03:23.329 --> 01:03:26.400
I think he's like 22.
1367
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:27.179
Or 22, 23.
1368
01:03:27.179 --> 01:03:28.929
Fuck man. If you told me he was 40, I'd
1369
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:30.000
probably believe you.
1370
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:32.239
Like, because of how because of how.
1371
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:35.329
Well and everyone i mean i love rich piana but
1372
01:03:35.369 --> 01:03:38.610
like the whole like just freely talking about everything and
1373
01:03:38.650 --> 01:03:42.750
yeah it would they like it's almost like glamorized.
1374
01:03:41.989 --> 01:03:44.750
Yeah sam sam doesn't really know no.
1375
01:03:44.469 --> 01:03:46.989
He doesn't talk about it but that gen like that
1376
01:03:47.070 --> 01:03:48.570
young generation.
1377
01:03:48.010 --> 01:03:50.389
There's a whole lot of other people who talk about.
1378
01:03:50.170 --> 01:03:53.280
It yes uh oh my god and like uh what's
1379
01:03:53.300 --> 01:04:02.590
the one dude he died like a But, like, everyone
1380
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.889
just made it into, like, oh, well, this is what
1381
01:04:04.909 --> 01:04:07.750
you have to do. And the problem is, like, you
1382
01:04:07.789 --> 01:04:12.949
have people on the internet, like Greg Doucette, like, he's just, like,
1383
01:04:12.989 --> 01:04:16.659
makes videos, YouTube videos. He gets views off of just saying, like,
1384
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.420
Daniel M. Bailey's a fucking liar. And I know it
1385
01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:22.019
makes people angry, but it makes people angry because you
1386
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:25.699
can't fucking do it yourself. And you can't believe that
1387
01:04:25.780 --> 01:04:29.179
a girl can look like that. But it's, like, my
1388
01:04:29.219 --> 01:04:36.329
work ethic is way... literally 19 years. I still, I'm 40.
1389
01:04:36.329 --> 01:04:39.369
I'm not even, I'm not even compete. I haven't competed
1390
01:04:39.429 --> 01:04:43.059
in 10 years. I still train seven days a week. Why?
1391
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:47.639
Because I'm a psycho because I'm a psychopath. Yeah. And
1392
01:04:47.699 --> 01:04:50.440
if anyone, and anyone that's ever trained with me, it's
1393
01:04:50.460 --> 01:04:52.530
like I out train everyone.
1394
01:04:52.929 --> 01:04:58.880
Well, it's because of steroids. Yeah, that's what Greg would say.
1395
01:04:59.530 --> 01:05:00.130
Exactly.
1396
01:05:00.369 --> 01:05:01.949
But it is what I get it, right?
1397
01:05:01.989 --> 01:05:04.849
Like I understand the idea of like people say it
1398
01:05:04.909 --> 01:05:07.050
because they just think it's just not possible.
1399
01:05:07.070 --> 01:05:10.039
Because it's not possible for them. And like this is
1400
01:05:10.099 --> 01:05:12.599
a really shit thing I say, but it kind of
1401
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.780
helps me. It's like there are just people in this
1402
01:05:15.860 --> 01:05:18.940
world that are just better than you. There really are.
1403
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:20.099
That's a fact. I think in all facets.
1404
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.309
Like think of it like I'm never going to be
1405
01:05:23.329 --> 01:05:26.269
in the Olympics for track.
1406
01:05:26.739 --> 01:05:28.090
Yeah, there's just people that.
1407
01:05:27.929 --> 01:05:31.349
Are just better. And some of those girls, they probably
1408
01:05:31.369 --> 01:05:33.670
don't even have to train. They're just fucking fast.
1409
01:05:33.690 --> 01:05:35.210
They just wake up and they're like, I didn't win.
1410
01:05:35.230 --> 01:05:38.250
They're like, I can run as fast as a cheetah.
1411
01:05:38.369 --> 01:05:42.179
And you're just better than me. You're just better than me.
1412
01:05:42.260 --> 01:05:46.079
And that just sucks. And it's a hard pill to
1413
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.780
swallow for some people, especially men. They hate me. They
1414
01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:55.179
absolutely hate me. but i will say like it's funny
1415
01:05:55.199 --> 01:06:00.110
they do like uh like girls whatever um but men
1416
01:06:00.269 --> 01:06:04.230
hate me like they're like you're a liar it's like
1417
01:06:05.050 --> 01:06:08.519
man so that's my only reason if i ever did
1418
01:06:08.659 --> 01:06:10.760
like a show ever again if i ever went back
1419
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.039
to the olympia i wouldn't win it because it i
1420
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.730
would look comical next to like It's just the evolution
1421
01:06:17.750 --> 01:06:20.670
of bodybuilding. It's past me, and I'm okay with that.
1422
01:06:21.630 --> 01:06:23.710
I used to get marked down for having striations in
1423
01:06:23.730 --> 01:06:28.900
my shoulders. They got striated glutes now. It's crazy. Women's
1424
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:34.099
physique is probably the most conditioned. I mean, they were
1425
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:38.090
more conditioned than the men's open, for sure. The top
1426
01:06:38.110 --> 01:06:42.650
three girls, their conditioning is insane.
1427
01:06:43.369 --> 01:06:43.909
Yeah, like.
1428
01:06:44.190 --> 01:06:48.090
It's insane. And when I was competing, there were quite
1429
01:06:48.110 --> 01:06:51.820
a few of us that competed all-natural. Like, Tony West, like,
1430
01:06:51.860 --> 01:06:54.139
I don't... No one remembers her, but she came from
1431
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:57.559
an all-natural federation and came to the IFBB. And the
1432
01:06:57.579 --> 01:07:01.039
only reason I did the IFBB, because no one cared
1433
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:04.199
about NABA and all... Like, I competed in NABA for
1434
01:07:04.219 --> 01:07:05.440
a couple years, but.
1435
01:07:06.539 --> 01:07:07.389
It's a tested federation.
1436
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:11.630
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, tested. But no one cares about, like,
1437
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.800
those federations so the most i wanted to be with
1438
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.559
the hardest competition and the where i was going to
1439
01:07:17.579 --> 01:07:20.340
get the most eyes and the the most popular and
1440
01:07:20.389 --> 01:07:23.369
that was like npc and ifbb at that time yeah
1441
01:07:24.289 --> 01:07:27.730
but yeah guys hate me man damn it's just ruining
1442
01:07:28.269 --> 01:07:31.210
dude i'll well let's go right now we'll just stop
1443
01:07:31.250 --> 01:07:33.559
this podcast we'll go take a piss test right now
1444
01:07:34.300 --> 01:07:38.250
i looked jack today in your gym I was, the
1445
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:39.550
lighting was so good.
1446
01:07:39.590 --> 01:07:40.659
Oh my God.
1447
01:07:40.699 --> 01:07:41.480
So good.
1448
01:07:41.739 --> 01:07:44.880
So do you, do you just like, cause you, you
1449
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:46.760
could have lived in LA. You never did.
1450
01:07:46.780 --> 01:07:50.179
I could never live here. Good for you.
1451
01:07:50.219 --> 01:07:50.420
Yeah.
1452
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:52.099
Good for me. I don't know if it's good for me.
1453
01:07:52.219 --> 01:07:55.880
I mean, I can't, there's too many people here. Dude,
1454
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.150
my next, my next door neighbor is like 40 acres away.
1455
01:07:59.170 --> 01:08:02.130
That's, that just sounds like a dream.
1456
01:08:02.150 --> 01:08:05.539
So like, I like, when in summertime, like I can
1457
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:09.489
walk outside naked and this is like just in the element, just, Oh,
1458
01:08:09.550 --> 01:08:11.489
like on my back porch, just like liver King in it,
1459
01:08:11.690 --> 01:08:12.570
just liver King.
1460
01:08:12.610 --> 01:08:15.909
And it just, Minus hysteria though. Minus hysteria.
1461
01:08:15.949 --> 01:08:17.409
Minus hysteria. Yeah.
1462
01:08:17.430 --> 01:08:18.689
Did you see, do you remember that when he like,
1463
01:08:18.729 --> 01:08:20.850
he got, he got caught, but he came back and
1464
01:08:20.869 --> 01:08:21.090
was like.
1465
01:08:21.109 --> 01:08:24.270
But that's the problem. It's people like that. That's why
1466
01:08:24.329 --> 01:08:26.289
no one believes me. And it makes people angry. Cause
1467
01:08:26.310 --> 01:08:29.569
they think I'm like this crazy liar. Yeah. Because so
1468
01:08:29.609 --> 01:08:33.069
many people like Kenny KO does it like, Oh, he,
1469
01:08:33.390 --> 01:08:37.069
he interviewed some girl and she's, she's for sure. So
1470
01:08:37.470 --> 01:08:40.149
like her voice was so deep. She's like, yeah, look
1471
01:08:40.189 --> 01:08:42.779
at my fit. Like, Of course, look at my face.
1472
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:44.819
And she doesn't even like, her jawline's like.
1473
01:08:45.180 --> 01:08:48.909
And it's like gross. Wait, she said no?
1474
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:52.449
She said no, she's all natural. And he's like, really? Yeah.
1475
01:08:54.930 --> 01:08:58.810
I laugh so. But he actually believes me now. If
1476
01:08:58.850 --> 01:09:00.310
you ask him, I mean, he might not say it
1477
01:09:00.369 --> 01:09:02.470
on camera. He like, I don't know if he ever
1478
01:09:02.550 --> 01:09:06.010
officially said it on camera, but yeah, he comes every
1479
01:09:06.250 --> 01:09:06.770
single time.
1480
01:09:06.789 --> 01:09:08.600
You had to have dealt with this, like the whole.
1481
01:09:08.770 --> 01:09:09.720
Your whole time.
1482
01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:10.180
Yeah.
1483
01:09:10.310 --> 01:09:13.420
But that's what, but if I ever did a show
1484
01:09:13.659 --> 01:09:17.270
ever again, that's, that's the reason I would do it.
1485
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.819
I would drug test my, or get drug tested. Like,
1486
01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:25.340
On a weekly or bi-weekly or however often I need
1487
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:28.239
to to prove it. But then everyone would be like, oh,
1488
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.100
you're just getting fake results.
1489
01:09:30.140 --> 01:09:30.899
Yeah, you don't win.
1490
01:09:30.979 --> 01:09:32.119
I'll never win.
1491
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:32.600
You don't win.
1492
01:09:32.859 --> 01:09:36.119
But put it out there. This was always an idea
1493
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:38.319
for Rob and I. It'd be a great marketing plan.
1494
01:09:38.770 --> 01:09:42.710
I have some money I can throw out. Challenge the
1495
01:09:42.770 --> 01:09:48.090
entire world. I compete. I will bet anybody. Put $ 100, 000
1496
01:09:47.989 --> 01:09:52.640
on it. I will, if anyone to the world, you
1497
01:09:52.659 --> 01:09:56.000
can come drug test me, come take me. We go
1498
01:09:56.039 --> 01:10:00.039
to an actual facility. We go get drug tested. If
1499
01:10:00.100 --> 01:10:05.899
it comes back and I'm positive, I give you $ 100, 000.
1500
01:10:04.420 --> 01:10:08.770
If it's negative, I take $ 100, 000 from you. And that's
1501
01:10:08.819 --> 01:10:12.750
what I would do. And I would just make money. Damn, dude.
1502
01:10:12.890 --> 01:10:16.869
I'd be like, suck my dick, check those results. You
1503
01:10:16.909 --> 01:10:20.569
owe me $ 100, 000. And they run off. Damn.
1504
01:10:21.050 --> 01:10:23.270
So what do you, what do you think, like, what
1505
01:10:23.289 --> 01:10:26.090
do you think the biggest challenge to be successful in
1506
01:10:26.109 --> 01:10:28.409
the fitness space is for people now?
1507
01:10:28.869 --> 01:10:31.250
For people now is just like visibility.
1508
01:10:31.310 --> 01:10:31.729
Standing out.
1509
01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:38.239
Yeah. Standing out. It's, it's so hard. Like, cause it's
1510
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:43.699
so awesome because it's, everyone's doing it and you can
1511
01:10:43.739 --> 01:10:46.659
make a living doing it, but it's so hard to
1512
01:10:46.699 --> 01:10:49.869
like stand out now. Cause it's, Just everyone's on the internet.
1513
01:10:49.930 --> 01:10:53.180
Everyone's on social media. My mom's on social media. Like what?
1514
01:10:53.569 --> 01:10:56.779
Why is my mom on Instagram? Like why is that
1515
01:10:56.859 --> 01:10:58.739
a thing? It's so funny.
1516
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:00.079
Was she making content?
1517
01:11:00.539 --> 01:11:03.760
Yeah. She makes reels. A lot of times she just
1518
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:06.739
like steals pictures from me and like makes her own reels.
1519
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:08.619
It's like this is my daughter type reel?
1520
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:08.960
Yeah.
1521
01:11:08.979 --> 01:11:09.460
Sometimes.
1522
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:13.380
I don't know. Kim Lynn, my mom. But it's like
1523
01:11:13.939 --> 01:11:17.739
everybody is on social media. Yeah. Like Facebook.
1524
01:11:18.390 --> 01:11:20.229
So how do you think you stand out then now,
1525
01:11:20.810 --> 01:11:23.729
if you were, let's say you were 20 years old again.
1526
01:11:23.750 --> 01:11:26.729
It's weird. I don't think I stand out. I probably
1527
01:11:26.829 --> 01:11:30.310
used to. Um, the only reason I stand out is
1528
01:11:30.329 --> 01:11:33.989
I still think I'm different than everybody else. I, I,
1529
01:11:34.210 --> 01:11:37.689
I'm not, I don't follow anyone's footsteps. I don't follow
1530
01:11:38.109 --> 01:11:42.590
what everyone else is doing. Um, I still, I think
1531
01:11:42.649 --> 01:11:46.600
if anything, um, I've paved the way for a lot
1532
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:51.779
of females to like do this. Um, it's, it's just
1533
01:11:51.819 --> 01:11:55.060
really cool to see like girls in the gym like that.
1534
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:57.159
That wasn't a thing. Girls with muscle.
1535
01:11:57.310 --> 01:11:59.329
It's girls with muscles like really a thing now.
1536
01:11:59.529 --> 01:12:03.390
It's a thing. It's actually weird if girls don't train now.
1537
01:12:04.050 --> 01:12:09.130
It was weird for me. Like the amount of hate
1538
01:12:09.189 --> 01:12:11.029
that I used to get, like I don't get that
1539
01:12:11.090 --> 01:12:13.829
anymore cause it's like normal now. It's weird. We have
1540
01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:18.470
completely normalized girls being strong, which is awesome, and girls
1541
01:12:18.510 --> 01:12:22.090
having muscle, which is also awesome. Like just being able
1542
01:12:22.130 --> 01:12:25.840
to like look however you want. But I think, yeah,
1543
01:12:26.779 --> 01:12:31.079
I don't know how to, yeah, it would be, it's
1544
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:33.000
hard to stand out because there's just so many people.
1545
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:37.880
And everyone's attention is like a millisecond. So like you
1546
01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:40.729
got to like really get them in those first three seconds.
1547
01:12:40.810 --> 01:12:42.750
And if you don't get them, like their attention's gone.
1548
01:12:42.970 --> 01:12:44.989
I think it still just comes down to value, though.
1549
01:12:45.189 --> 01:12:45.430
Yeah.
1550
01:12:45.470 --> 01:12:47.869
Like, the difference, like, being unique in the value that
1551
01:12:47.890 --> 01:12:48.329
you offer.
1552
01:12:48.649 --> 01:12:48.970
Yeah.
1553
01:12:49.050 --> 01:12:52.409
Or just trying to cultivate that value within your audience
1554
01:12:52.529 --> 01:12:53.409
as much as you can.
1555
01:12:53.810 --> 01:12:53.989
Yeah.
1556
01:12:54.090 --> 01:12:55.189
For, like.
1557
01:12:55.489 --> 01:12:58.060
As genuine, from a genuine place. Because, like I said,
1558
01:12:58.100 --> 01:13:00.220
I think most people do things just because they think there's, like,
1559
01:13:00.340 --> 01:13:01.800
a money on the end of it. And if you
1560
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:04.340
could treat things... Yes, you need to make money. And yes,
1561
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:06.680
you need to sell something to, like, sustain your life.
1562
01:13:06.699 --> 01:13:10.359
That shouldn't be your first and only thing. Yeah. Like,
1563
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.890
if you're first... Reaction is like, how much money am
1564
01:13:13.930 --> 01:13:16.609
I going to make? Your intentions are wrong. It's like
1565
01:13:16.630 --> 01:13:19.250
you have to like care about the thing first and
1566
01:13:19.270 --> 01:13:20.649
then the money will always come back.
1567
01:13:20.789 --> 01:13:21.899
Otherwise it doesn't sustain.
1568
01:13:22.109 --> 01:13:27.260
It doesn't sustain. That's in my head the best way
1569
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:29.720
to go about life in general. Like it just says
1570
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.880
a good human being is not always just think. I
1571
01:13:33.380 --> 01:13:37.189
think that's why I am so against the only because
1572
01:13:37.229 --> 01:13:41.600
it's like, You're just concerned about the transaction. There's nothing
1573
01:13:41.659 --> 01:13:43.479
else you're concerned about but making money.
1574
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.739
And it's also, not that this is a bad way
1575
01:13:45.779 --> 01:13:48.720
to live, very present. It's also just like right now money.
1576
01:13:48.739 --> 01:13:49.760
Because being present is good.
1577
01:13:49.819 --> 01:13:50.420
That's one thing.
1578
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:54.239
But just trying to make as much right now sometimes
1579
01:13:54.340 --> 01:13:55.899
doesn't pay off the way you think it's going to
1580
01:13:55.930 --> 01:13:56.850
pay off in the future.
1581
01:13:57.699 --> 01:14:01.909
What would happen? I always thought that. Because it's the internet.
1582
01:14:02.210 --> 01:14:05.979
It's so easy. What if they just deleted OnlyFans? It
1583
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:09.539
just didn't exist anywhere. They're like, fuck this. We're just
1584
01:14:09.579 --> 01:14:10.069
deleting it.
1585
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:11.760
It would just be another platform would come out and
1586
01:14:11.779 --> 01:14:12.640
offer the same.
1587
01:14:12.659 --> 01:14:15.600
Yeah, that's true. But if it just got deleted, it's like,
1588
01:14:16.260 --> 01:14:17.939
now what are you guys going to do for income?
1589
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:24.020
Oh, man. Even more debt in the US, huh?
1590
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.359
Very, very, very. I just don't know where all this
1591
01:14:27.420 --> 01:14:30.819
money is coming from. I know girls that are making
1592
01:14:30.930 --> 01:14:35.149
millions of dollars. It's like, where is this money coming from?
1593
01:14:35.770 --> 01:14:39.250
Random dudes it's insane to me but i guess it
1594
01:14:39.369 --> 01:14:42.680
kind of makes sense i don't know it's weird i've
1595
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:45.039
never spent a single dollar on like anything like that
1596
01:14:45.659 --> 01:14:48.439
ever ever no honestly.
1597
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.340
Yeah because they're just here you just get to interview
1598
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.779
them you're like come on over to my house and
1599
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:56.300
then i'll tell we're doing a.
1600
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.800
Podcast yeah funny no i just i just like it's
1601
01:14:59.819 --> 01:15:01.079
just weird to me it's just like.
1602
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.880
A weird bradley martin shut.
1603
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:10.420
The fuck up no No, that's funny. No, because it
1604
01:15:10.460 --> 01:15:13.800
never felt... In my mind, I'm thinking, why would I
1605
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:20.789
want this distant, weird connection with someone that I don't
1606
01:15:20.829 --> 01:15:21.270
actually know?
1607
01:15:21.350 --> 01:15:24.630
Do you think it's mostly guys that can't get it?
1608
01:15:24.689 --> 01:15:27.560
I mean, you can obviously... You're a very attractive guy. Like,
1609
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:28.340
you could get a girl.
1610
01:15:28.619 --> 01:15:30.539
Maybe that's why. Maybe it's just guys.
1611
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.649
And it's just like, we have, there's really a lot
1612
01:15:32.659 --> 01:15:34.130
of unattractive dudes out there.
1613
01:15:34.149 --> 01:15:35.890
I don't know about attract, I mean, maybe just, maybe
1614
01:15:35.930 --> 01:15:39.550
just uncomfortability. They're just like, not, they're afraid to approach.
1615
01:15:39.590 --> 01:15:42.890
Because of social media, we can't talk anymore. We don't
1616
01:15:42.930 --> 01:15:44.069
have good communication skills.
1617
01:15:44.090 --> 01:15:46.760
It's just all pain into itself. It's just crazy.
1618
01:15:46.779 --> 01:15:48.739
We're just in this rabbit wheel circle.
1619
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.520
It's a vicious cycle, man.
1620
01:15:51.020 --> 01:15:53.600
It's bad. We're f * * * ed. Yeah.
1621
01:15:53.939 --> 01:15:57.739
The universe, like, Well, the universe will be good. The
1622
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.460
human race is shocked.
1623
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:00.260
The human race.
1624
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:00.779
It's shocked.
1625
01:16:00.859 --> 01:16:03.720
We're just a bunch of idiots. Yeah. We're just getting
1626
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:05.590
stupider and stupider.
1627
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.699
Yeah, it's bad, man. Speaking of that, like, what about
1628
01:16:08.770 --> 01:16:10.649
kids for you?
1629
01:16:11.029 --> 01:16:13.750
Oh, yeah. I've gotten that question many, many times. So,
1630
01:16:14.810 --> 01:16:15.869
it's funny. We didn't start.
1631
01:16:15.890 --> 01:16:18.350
Because you're not beating the step allegations with, you know,
1632
01:16:18.430 --> 01:16:20.789
the kid thing. Yeah, it's... Because that's when you're like,
1633
01:16:20.810 --> 01:16:21.710
maybe that's why.
1634
01:16:21.729 --> 01:16:29.069
No. So, for... I mean, we've been hustling and like
1635
01:16:29.250 --> 01:16:32.289
competing was obviously like my number one. So I couldn't,
1636
01:16:32.939 --> 01:16:37.880
we didn't try before. Yeah. We didn't start thinking about like, hey,
1637
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:39.939
maybe it would be kind of cool to have like,
1638
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:44.380
I think once Drew had his daughter, we're like, man,
1639
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:44.880
it would be cool.
1640
01:16:44.899 --> 01:16:45.460
Rob's brother.
1641
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:47.680
Yeah. Rob's brother. Sorry. I say him like you.
1642
01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:48.659
No, you're good. Yeah.
1643
01:16:48.739 --> 01:16:53.430
You know him. Once he had Tegan and like Tegan's rad.
1644
01:16:53.689 --> 01:16:58.119
Like she's. she's cool like it's really cool being an
1645
01:16:58.260 --> 01:17:00.000
aunt I'm like man it'd be really cool if like
1646
01:17:00.020 --> 01:17:02.640
we both had kids we raised our kids together so
1647
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.989
we we started like thinking about it like but like
1648
01:17:07.090 --> 01:17:11.949
we haven't not like we just at one point in
1649
01:17:11.970 --> 01:17:14.390
time it was just like it either happens or we're
1650
01:17:14.409 --> 01:17:17.130
gonna just let it up to the gods like world
1651
01:17:18.380 --> 01:17:21.479
and yeah one of us is broken it's probably Rob
1652
01:17:22.170 --> 01:17:26.109
He did a lot of pro-hormones in his day. Pro-hormones
1653
01:17:26.149 --> 01:17:27.149
were big in his 20s.
1654
01:17:27.189 --> 01:17:29.529
I think there's other things like IVF and stuff. There's
1655
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:30.439
other ways to do it.
1656
01:17:30.859 --> 01:17:33.819
Yeah, that's the route we would have to go. We'd
1657
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:37.319
have to be like, because it's not a fun route
1658
01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:38.439
for the female at least.
1659
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:40.779
You'd have to just make that decision.
1660
01:17:40.819 --> 01:17:43.079
We literally have to like, hey, we need to put
1661
01:17:43.180 --> 01:17:46.939
these guys together. One of us isn't working. We get
1662
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:47.960
that question all the time.
1663
01:17:47.979 --> 01:17:49.520
Yeah, I kind of figured.
1664
01:17:50.250 --> 01:17:52.090
Because it's like the chances that you guys have been
1665
01:17:52.109 --> 01:17:54.170
together for so long, it would have happened.
1666
01:17:54.449 --> 01:17:59.899
Oh, yeah, for sure. Because there's no pulling out or anything.
1667
01:18:00.420 --> 01:18:03.180
Thank you. Jesus Christ. Only f * * * ing
1668
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:06.020
coming soon. Thank you, Rob and Dana. Point of view
1669
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:07.529
or what? Jesus Christ, man.
1670
01:18:07.539 --> 01:18:10.720
Oh, my God. F * * *. Just got X-rated, guys.
1671
01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:12.760
I don't do only f * * *, but I'll
1672
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:13.840
talk about myself.
1673
01:18:13.979 --> 01:18:15.520
Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. But that
1674
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:17.810
makes sense. I kind of figured that, too. I really did.
1675
01:18:17.890 --> 01:18:19.369
No, and we still.
1676
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:21.800
So you'd have to like, you'd have to actively pull
1677
01:18:21.819 --> 01:18:22.619
the trigger on that.
1678
01:18:22.659 --> 01:18:25.229
Literally have to like go to Utah. I feel like
1679
01:18:25.250 --> 01:18:28.010
there's a lot of good doctors in Utah.
1680
01:18:28.189 --> 01:18:29.050
Is it going to happen?
1681
01:18:30.449 --> 01:18:34.670
Uh, we both need to like, actually we love our love.
1682
01:18:35.069 --> 01:18:37.329
Maybe there's like a selfishness part of it.
1683
01:18:37.409 --> 01:18:38.380
It gets interesting.
1684
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:41.859
It's like our lives are really awesome. Yeah.
1685
01:18:42.140 --> 01:18:44.960
This is where it gets interesting. Cause it's like, it's also,
1686
01:18:44.979 --> 01:18:45.680
when is it enough?
1687
01:18:46.260 --> 01:18:46.460
Yeah.
1688
01:18:46.500 --> 01:18:47.020
Other stuff.
1689
01:18:47.340 --> 01:18:50.739
Yeah. I don't know. I thought... it's weird because we
1690
01:18:50.779 --> 01:18:53.239
didn't start thinking about it till we were like 38
1691
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.770
honestly which was only like two years ago right and
1692
01:18:57.930 --> 01:19:00.649
we're just like wow it's kind of crazy because we
1693
01:19:00.930 --> 01:19:04.310
we haven't actively tried and we haven't actively not tried
1694
01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:09.069
um So there's no way the possibilities of like the
1695
01:19:09.109 --> 01:19:12.510
last 10 years of not really trying and actively not
1696
01:19:12.550 --> 01:19:16.090
trying that it wouldn't happen. So it's like, okay, one
1697
01:19:16.130 --> 01:19:20.399
of us has gotten something. It's always weird because I
1698
01:19:20.409 --> 01:19:23.699
always find that healthy people, like people that really take
1699
01:19:23.739 --> 01:19:28.199
care of their bodies and stuff, like my sister-in-law, like
1700
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:30.819
they had a really, really hard time. But then it's like,
1701
01:19:31.659 --> 01:19:35.029
you know, There's some people that just pop out babies.
1702
01:19:35.090 --> 01:19:37.720
It's like, you should not even have children. Like, you
1703
01:19:37.729 --> 01:19:40.659
can't even take care of yourself. And you can just
1704
01:19:40.779 --> 01:19:45.399
reproduce at, like, such a crazy rate. And then people
1705
01:19:45.420 --> 01:19:47.420
that really take care of themselves, I feel like, are
1706
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.279
always the ones that have the most problems.
1707
01:19:49.970 --> 01:19:50.489
It sucks.
1708
01:19:51.189 --> 01:19:53.609
I don't know why. Like, that doesn't make sense. Like,
1709
01:19:53.670 --> 01:19:56.090
in the wild, that wouldn't make sense. Like, the healthiest
1710
01:19:56.229 --> 01:19:59.550
ones should be, like, the ones reproducing. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
1711
01:19:59.810 --> 01:20:04.840
Not the... malfunctioning ones like that are just like baby
1712
01:20:04.899 --> 01:20:06.979
baby baby babies.
1713
01:20:06.300 --> 01:20:13.010
Malfunctioning ones yes dummies oh my god i mean no
1714
01:20:13.029 --> 01:20:13.569
just for.
1715
01:20:13.369 --> 01:20:15.689
A night yeah like yeah for lack of a better
1716
01:20:15.710 --> 01:20:17.949
word just people that like can barely take care of
1717
01:20:17.989 --> 01:20:20.029
themselves so like you look at them you're like oh
1718
01:20:20.069 --> 01:20:24.060
my gosh like how do you live every day and
1719
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:25.699
then they have like 18 kids like how 18 kids
1720
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:30.529
like I don't know.
1721
01:20:30.550 --> 01:20:33.789
So what do you enjoy doing the most now? It's
1722
01:20:33.810 --> 01:20:34.850
not content. I know it's not content.
1723
01:20:34.869 --> 01:20:37.819
There's so much stuff to do. And I think that's a...
1724
01:20:38.300 --> 01:20:42.500
We live in Montana now. We moved there seven years ago.
1725
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:46.680
The thing about Montana is there's too much to do.
1726
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:47.720
Really?
1727
01:20:47.739 --> 01:20:48.470
Yes.
1728
01:20:48.590 --> 01:20:51.609
My idea of Montana is like mountains.
1729
01:20:51.630 --> 01:20:55.569
Well, it's all outdoors, of course. So like right now,
1730
01:20:55.810 --> 01:20:57.590
it's like snowboard season. So.
1731
01:20:59.329 --> 01:21:01.489
And we literally have a mountain. Like, I can leave
1732
01:21:01.609 --> 01:21:05.510
my house and be on a chairlift in 25 minutes. Like,
1733
01:21:05.689 --> 01:21:10.270
it's amazing. Like, snowmobiling. Like, there's just so much to do. Like,
1734
01:21:10.340 --> 01:21:12.340
summertime is, like, overwhelming.
1735
01:21:12.579 --> 01:21:14.439
Should I put a zoo culture there? Is it popping?
1736
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.539
I mean, there's not a whole lot of people.
1737
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:18.260
Okay.
1738
01:21:19.060 --> 01:21:21.020
You can just train at our gym if you want
1739
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:24.149
to come. I wouldn't say it'd be super profitable.
1740
01:21:24.369 --> 01:21:26.609
Isn't, isn't Montana like, I feel like that's where all
1741
01:21:26.649 --> 01:21:28.149
the super rich people were trying to get out of
1742
01:21:28.170 --> 01:21:28.949
California go.
1743
01:21:29.289 --> 01:21:29.550
Oh yeah.
1744
01:21:29.890 --> 01:21:31.850
They all go to Montana and buy like these big estates.
1745
01:21:31.949 --> 01:21:39.119
Yeah. Especially down like by, um, uh, big sky, big sky,
1746
01:21:39.159 --> 01:21:43.340
big sky. So we're, we're up like whitefish is definitely like,
1747
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:46.319
especially where we live. It's, it's a lot of people
1748
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.989
from California. Like, They leave in the winter, go back
1749
01:21:50.050 --> 01:21:52.369
to their California home, and then they come in the summer.
1750
01:21:53.289 --> 01:21:58.229
But Whitefish is very affluent, for sure. Ski resort town,
1751
01:21:58.369 --> 01:22:01.029
really cute. But it's not like Big Sky. Big Sky
1752
01:22:01.189 --> 01:22:05.000
is just like most people, if they're going to go to,
1753
01:22:06.899 --> 01:22:09.680
you know, they think of Yellowstone. Yellowstone's like down there.
1754
01:22:09.859 --> 01:22:11.979
So you guys can keep going down there. Don't come up.
1755
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.640
We're straight up. We're like 50 miles to Canada.
1756
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:18.239
You know, it's funny. You say they can keep going
1757
01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:20.039
down and you stay up there. It's funny how people
1758
01:22:20.100 --> 01:22:22.960
move places and they're like, you know, like, yeah, everyone
1759
01:22:22.979 --> 01:22:23.920
was going to Texas.
1760
01:22:24.020 --> 01:22:24.979
They're all going to Austin.
1761
01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:26.359
Yeah, go to Texas, man.
1762
01:22:26.380 --> 01:22:27.119
It's beautiful.
1763
01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:27.979
I love Texas.
1764
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:30.560
They're like, don't California my Texas.
1765
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:34.760
Well, it was a thing. So in Missoula, Missoula is
1766
01:22:35.420 --> 01:22:39.039
like a little bigger city. Not big. It's barely a city.
1767
01:22:39.100 --> 01:22:41.020
It's like a town for you. Not even a town.
1768
01:22:41.619 --> 01:22:44.489
But anyway, it's like the next city over. And I
1769
01:22:44.510 --> 01:22:47.989
guess we had like a lot of people from California and,
1770
01:22:48.109 --> 01:22:50.750
you know, your laws are different than ours. Like we
1771
01:22:50.829 --> 01:22:53.109
open carry like it's it's that.
1772
01:22:53.130 --> 01:22:55.010
It's how it should be.
1773
01:22:55.029 --> 01:23:00.189
Like you come in strapped in Missoula. It's a it's
1774
01:23:00.210 --> 01:23:02.720
a little more like liberal, but it got a lot
1775
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:05.399
more liberal that there was a bunch of people moving
1776
01:23:05.420 --> 01:23:09.029
in trying to change like gun laws. And then all
1777
01:23:09.060 --> 01:23:12.960
of a sudden, because we're Montanans, we're too busy. We're
1778
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.659
not going to meetings and finding out all about these
1779
01:23:15.739 --> 01:23:18.859
laws that are changing. Well, it almost got turned like
1780
01:23:19.060 --> 01:23:22.819
you couldn't have a gun in Missoula, which is in Montana,
1781
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:26.340
which is crazy. Luckily, all the locals came out and
1782
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:28.539
voted against it. So it didn't go through. But it
1783
01:23:28.579 --> 01:23:32.529
was like, whoa, you did almost California us.
1784
01:23:32.569 --> 01:23:33.270
Like, what the fuck?
1785
01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:40.119
But luckily we overturned them. Yeah. Don't come to our state.
1786
01:23:40.500 --> 01:23:43.420
You're fleeing your state. Don't come to my state.
1787
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.479
It's like come, but don't change because you came because
1788
01:23:46.500 --> 01:23:49.119
you wanted it to not be that. But now you're here.
1789
01:23:49.140 --> 01:23:51.539
You're here and you're trying to change it and try
1790
01:23:51.579 --> 01:23:52.640
to make it more.
1791
01:23:52.659 --> 01:23:54.000
Like the place you left.
1792
01:23:54.220 --> 01:23:55.520
Yeah. Stop it.
1793
01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:56.180
Stop it.
1794
01:23:56.220 --> 01:23:57.310
Like. Yeah.
1795
01:23:57.329 --> 01:23:59.029
It doesn't make sense. I'll never understand that.
1796
01:23:59.189 --> 01:24:01.289
The Austin thing was like a big, it was a
1797
01:24:01.310 --> 01:24:03.270
big wave. And I know like, I wonder if stuff
1798
01:24:03.310 --> 01:24:05.250
changed over there where it felt like California now.
1799
01:24:05.930 --> 01:24:08.479
Oh, Austin. Yeah. For sure.
1800
01:24:08.489 --> 01:24:10.380
It was like a ton of people were leaving here
1801
01:24:10.420 --> 01:24:11.539
and going there. Yeah.
1802
01:24:12.060 --> 01:24:14.939
For, I mean, out of all of Texas, Austin is
1803
01:24:14.979 --> 01:24:18.420
definitely like, definitely on the more like liberal side. Yeah.
1804
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:22.920
Like you would think down there, like just guns swinging,
1805
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.949
not in Austin. It's like a, Weird little hippie town
1806
01:24:25.989 --> 01:24:30.529
of liberals. Which is fine. I don't care. But yeah,
1807
01:24:30.569 --> 01:24:32.569
we're just... Yeah, we like our guns.
1808
01:24:32.939 --> 01:24:33.220
Yeah.
1809
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:35.479
I just bought night vision. It's so psyched.
1810
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:38.640
Damn. I just went up to Mammoth and was shooting
1811
01:24:38.659 --> 01:24:40.880
guns with my brother. I loved it. I came back,
1812
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:41.920
I bought like four more guns.
1813
01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:43.680
I know. Yeah, I just.
1814
01:24:44.180 --> 01:24:45.619
It's just way out... California is like the process.
1815
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:47.939
Hopefully Rob's not listening to this now. It's his Christmas present.
1816
01:24:48.500 --> 01:24:51.140
Got full optics. Think about.
1817
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:52.649
Oh, night vision.
1818
01:24:52.779 --> 01:24:57.590
Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, like night-night vision, like real night vision.
1819
01:24:57.609 --> 01:25:00.250
Like on a helmet night vision? Oh, yeah.
1820
01:25:00.710 --> 01:25:04.770
Oh, shit. We did a YouTube video. He's like an ex,
1821
01:25:05.810 --> 01:25:08.680
is he a Marine or Navy SEAL? He's a Navy SEAL.
1822
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:11.720
And just put me through some, like, tactical training, and
1823
01:25:11.739 --> 01:25:14.520
we went in our woods and, like, shot at night. Like,
1824
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:19.079
it was pitch dark. I could see for, like, miles.
1825
01:25:19.460 --> 01:25:20.859
It's crazy. It's crazy.
1826
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:22.380
You know what?
1827
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:25.399
We're going to play tag outside. It's going to be awesome.
1828
01:25:25.819 --> 01:25:28.279
Or not tag. Hide and go seek. Think about hide
1829
01:25:28.340 --> 01:25:30.380
and go seek with night vision. Not with guns. No,
1830
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.800
with night vision. With night vision. You're like, okay. You
1831
01:25:33.819 --> 01:25:34.750
go hide. I'm going to find you.
1832
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:36.880
I can just picture you guys randomly doing this at night.
1833
01:25:36.899 --> 01:25:39.199
It's like hilarious. Like in the middle of nowhere.
1834
01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:39.659
Yes.
1835
01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:41.539
That sounds fun. Yeah.
1836
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:43.050
I mean, you have to watch out for bears and
1837
01:25:43.090 --> 01:25:43.859
mountain lions.
1838
01:25:43.890 --> 01:25:44.970
Well, you got a gun on you.
1839
01:25:44.989 --> 01:25:46.670
But I have my optics so I can see them.
1840
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:49.479
Yeah, this is funny because I was out. I was up,
1841
01:25:49.539 --> 01:25:51.039
like I said, in man with my brother. And we
1842
01:25:51.060 --> 01:25:51.859
were walking the dogs.
1843
01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:54.520
And we were just randomly. It's just like middle of nowhere.
1844
01:25:55.189 --> 01:25:56.909
And we're out like camping because I was camping in
1845
01:25:56.949 --> 01:25:58.430
my van. You saw it when we walked in.
1846
01:25:58.449 --> 01:26:00.149
I know. Super sick. I kind of want a tour
1847
01:26:00.170 --> 01:26:00.390
of it.
1848
01:26:00.729 --> 01:26:02.869
And I'll show you after. And then we were walking
1849
01:26:02.890 --> 01:26:03.409
with the dogs.
1850
01:26:03.609 --> 01:26:05.630
And we're walking just randomly in this one direction. I
1851
01:26:05.670 --> 01:26:07.810
have this like big ass bright light. And I see
1852
01:26:07.850 --> 01:26:10.380
like coyote eyes. And I'm like, oh, it's a coyote.
1853
01:26:10.569 --> 01:26:12.319
We should go back this way. Like we're going to turn.
1854
01:26:12.619 --> 01:26:13.859
As soon as we turn and go back that way,
1855
01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:15.260
there's five of them.
1856
01:26:15.939 --> 01:26:17.579
Over here and i was like oh we gotta get
1857
01:26:17.619 --> 01:26:18.590
the f * * k out of here because i
1858
01:26:18.649 --> 01:26:20.170
have my gun i could shoot them but it's like
1859
01:26:20.189 --> 01:26:21.890
i don't want to deal with the dogs and all
1860
01:26:21.909 --> 01:26:23.390
this yeah that.
1861
01:26:23.210 --> 01:26:25.189
Would be what i'd be worried about like coyotes they're
1862
01:26:25.210 --> 01:26:26.029
pretty tiny.
1863
01:26:26.149 --> 01:26:28.649
Yeah but but like five of them attacking your dog
1864
01:26:28.670 --> 01:26:29.060
wouldn't be.
1865
01:26:28.989 --> 01:26:31.520
Your dog yeah that's that's not.
1866
01:26:31.579 --> 01:26:33.460
Yeah i would have to pick that up and leave
1867
01:26:33.500 --> 01:26:35.739
but but yeah anyways i i just what i was
1868
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:38.579
gonna say this there's something that i and i i'm
1869
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.199
curious you probably do this on the daily but When
1870
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:44.180
you get out and, like, you're just isolated in a way,
1871
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:46.060
because I'm assuming you said you had 20 acres?
1872
01:26:46.470 --> 01:26:49.770
Yeah, we're on 20. Like, we're ag 20, so the
1873
01:26:50.010 --> 01:26:52.289
minimum you can have is 20. So, like, our one
1874
01:26:52.310 --> 01:26:53.569
neighbor has, like, 100.
1875
01:26:53.569 --> 01:26:55.550
So you have way less light pollution, I'm assuming.
1876
01:26:55.770 --> 01:27:00.390
Yeah, there's laws, at least in Whitefish outside, that you can't,
1877
01:27:00.710 --> 01:27:02.050
we don't have, like, street lights.
1878
01:27:02.329 --> 01:27:07.289
Yeah, so, you know, I spend very little time in
1879
01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:10.140
places like that. And this was the first time in
1880
01:27:10.180 --> 01:27:11.979
probably the last 10 years that I went to spend
1881
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:13.800
time in a place like that with no light pollution,
1882
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:18.119
like no sound, no people, no like internet.
1883
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:20.380
And I was like, yeah.
1884
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.979
And, and I, I really urge people listening to like,
1885
01:27:24.460 --> 01:27:26.050
if you're not in an area like that to go
1886
01:27:26.090 --> 01:27:28.109
just visit an area like that. Cause it really puts
1887
01:27:28.149 --> 01:27:30.909
in perspective. I would just genuinely say the things that
1888
01:27:31.229 --> 01:27:34.149
really matter because you get in a place like that
1889
01:27:34.170 --> 01:27:37.729
and you, you realize like all the, not just cause like,
1890
01:27:38.310 --> 01:27:41.899
You know, you're somewhere without all the stuff. But because
1891
01:27:41.939 --> 01:27:43.800
I was there in the van and I had like
1892
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:46.420
the basic things that I need, like some food, some water,
1893
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:49.020
I had the shelter or someone else that could have
1894
01:27:49.060 --> 01:27:51.310
a tent or wherever they're at camping, try this out.
1895
01:27:52.909 --> 01:27:54.649
But you sit there at night or during the day
1896
01:27:54.670 --> 01:27:57.409
and you only hear like wind or nothing.
1897
01:27:57.430 --> 01:27:57.649
Yeah.
1898
01:27:59.100 --> 01:28:01.199
And it just puts, I swear, just put my life
1899
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.439
in perspective. I wasn't taking mushrooms at the time. I
1900
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:05.220
wasn't doing anything because I talk about mushrooms and stuff.
1901
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:06.720
Everyone's probably like, oh, he was high on mushrooms. I
1902
01:28:06.739 --> 01:28:08.899
wasn't on mushrooms. I wasn't taking ayahuasca. I wasn't on
1903
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:10.439
any sort of like medicine or drugs.
1904
01:28:10.729 --> 01:28:12.409
No, the drug was nature.
1905
01:28:12.689 --> 01:28:15.149
Yeah, and it really made me just be like, it
1906
01:28:15.250 --> 01:28:17.710
puts just like all the problems, all the shit that
1907
01:28:17.729 --> 01:28:19.609
you're like dealing with or stressing about just in a
1908
01:28:19.710 --> 01:28:22.670
different almost category in your mind where it's like, What
1909
01:28:22.689 --> 01:28:24.449
the fuck am I so like, because at the end
1910
01:28:24.470 --> 01:28:26.760
of the day, you know, people say this all the time.
1911
01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:28.619
You don't take it with you when you go and
1912
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.760
you don't, you know, all these things are just not
1913
01:28:31.779 --> 01:28:33.770
that they're not great for people to try to accomplish
1914
01:28:33.810 --> 01:28:36.229
and to achieve and to have, but we complicate so
1915
01:28:36.289 --> 01:28:38.529
much in our life to have those things or to
1916
01:28:38.590 --> 01:28:41.359
get towards those things. and I think the true power
1917
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:42.930
in like even getting to them is like.
1918
01:28:42.869 --> 01:28:45.729
Being good with nothing simple.
1919
01:28:45.729 --> 01:28:49.039
Yeah And letting your mind focus on the things that
1920
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:52.100
truly matter. Yeah, if you want to go and have
1921
01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:53.699
all this money and have a yacht and have a
1922
01:28:53.739 --> 01:28:55.279
nice house and live in.
1923
01:28:54.939 --> 01:28:57.340
LA, that's cool. But I think the more... And this
1924
01:28:57.380 --> 01:28:58.369
is happening with social media too.
1925
01:28:58.380 --> 01:29:00.430
I think the more stuff you have, it just creates
1926
01:29:00.470 --> 01:29:02.470
more stress and the more you feel like you need more.
1927
01:29:02.890 --> 01:29:06.050
Yeah, and you get disconnected from the shit that really matters.
1928
01:29:06.369 --> 01:29:08.229
So whenever I talk to people who live in places
1929
01:29:08.250 --> 01:29:09.310
like that, or like I said, I just spent.
1930
01:29:09.329 --> 01:29:11.850
Why do you think I'm so happy and I love life? Yeah,
1931
01:29:12.050 --> 01:29:14.930
I mean, it's... We moved from like Reddit, not that...
1932
01:29:15.930 --> 01:29:18.750
I mean, we had 40 acres in actually Redding, Pennsylvania.
1933
01:29:18.770 --> 01:29:21.270
We lived on top of a little, it wasn't a mountain,
1934
01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:25.260
it was like a hill. But yeah, moving to Montana
1935
01:29:25.300 --> 01:29:28.279
has like, it's just, I just, I don't even feel
1936
01:29:28.300 --> 01:29:30.859
like I lived in Pennsylvania. It just feels like home.
1937
01:29:31.619 --> 01:29:35.000
So I always, because we traveled so much, like when
1938
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.550
we came home, like I want to come home to
1939
01:29:37.569 --> 01:29:41.460
like serene, calm and like That's what it is. That's
1940
01:29:41.500 --> 01:29:44.300
what Montana is for me. Plus it's just fun. Like
1941
01:29:45.779 --> 01:29:48.859
I literally have to schedule out my week. Like, okay,
1942
01:29:48.899 --> 01:29:50.840
today we're going to ride dirt bikes tomorrow. I'm going
1943
01:29:50.859 --> 01:29:52.949
to ride my horse. And then next day we're going
1944
01:29:52.970 --> 01:29:56.329
to go hiking. Like there's just too much to do. Yeah.
1945
01:29:56.869 --> 01:30:02.850
But yeah, being outside with nothing, there's nothing better. Like
1946
01:30:02.890 --> 01:30:05.760
my favorite place on earth is actually, it's called pole bridge.
1947
01:30:05.810 --> 01:30:10.020
It's like, maybe an hour from where we live, but
1948
01:30:10.260 --> 01:30:15.380
no cell service, nothing. That's where I'm like happiest. I
1949
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:18.800
like just not that feeling. It's like, if you know
1950
01:30:18.819 --> 01:30:20.819
your phone doesn't work, then you don't have to look
1951
01:30:20.899 --> 01:30:23.560
at it. But like when your phone's here, like you're,
1952
01:30:23.649 --> 01:30:25.789
you're constantly just like picking up your phone, picking up
1953
01:30:25.810 --> 01:30:28.050
your phone and you're looking at it. It's like, Oh,
1954
01:30:28.130 --> 01:30:30.489
knowing that it doesn't work, then you don't look at it.
1955
01:30:30.590 --> 01:30:33.170
And there's like a stress that I feel like goes
1956
01:30:33.289 --> 01:30:39.189
with a cell phone. Just always being there. There's, and
1957
01:30:39.350 --> 01:30:41.229
I'm not even like a big set. Like I, I
1958
01:30:41.270 --> 01:30:43.890
don't really do a whole, like I don't just sit
1959
01:30:43.949 --> 01:30:47.029
and scroll. I'm not actually a scroller, but I do.
1960
01:30:47.090 --> 01:30:48.789
I feel like it's like if it's there and it's
1961
01:30:48.850 --> 01:30:50.949
visible and it's like working, like feel like I'm always
1962
01:30:50.970 --> 01:30:53.770
having just check it. Like it didn't ding or anything.
1963
01:30:53.789 --> 01:30:55.409
Why am I, what do I have to check? Why
1964
01:30:55.430 --> 01:30:57.439
do I have to check? Yeah, just like why am
1965
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:00.520
I checking Instagram? I don't, I don't care. Like what
1966
01:31:00.539 --> 01:31:03.600
am I checking? Why? Like what is that? There's like
1967
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:05.960
a pressure that goes with that. Yeah.
1968
01:31:05.979 --> 01:31:09.579
We've really like, gone closer and closer to this this
1969
01:31:10.220 --> 01:31:12.579
i guess technology age of it's like become a part
1970
01:31:12.619 --> 01:31:14.920
of us yeah like you've seen this stuff with ai
1971
01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.920
like there's this recently i just saw this guy put
1972
01:31:19.020 --> 01:31:21.119
on some divide not a not a neural link not
1973
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:23.010
elon musk neural link but i'm assuming this would probably
1974
01:31:23.020 --> 01:31:24.770
do the same thing put something on that like he
1975
01:31:24.810 --> 01:31:27.229
wasn't audible he wasn't able to speak but he put
1976
01:31:27.250 --> 01:31:29.609
this on and it read his thoughts.
1977
01:31:29.819 --> 01:31:31.020
Oh my God, that's freaky.
1978
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:33.659
And it was able to read his thoughts like onto
1979
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.359
like a computer somewhere. Like he's not saying anything, but
1980
01:31:36.380 --> 01:31:37.659
he's like thinking the thoughts.
1981
01:31:37.460 --> 01:31:39.229
And they were just capturing it. Oh my God.
1982
01:31:39.899 --> 01:31:41.159
It's like, where are we going?
1983
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:42.869
But I'm saying like this, the reason I'm talking about
1984
01:31:42.890 --> 01:31:44.449
this is like, we seem to be getting further and
1985
01:31:44.489 --> 01:31:46.630
further away from like just being human.
1986
01:31:47.090 --> 01:31:50.310
I mean, virtual reality, like instead of like video games,
1987
01:31:50.329 --> 01:31:52.390
like now like kids like put these things on and
1988
01:31:52.409 --> 01:31:56.050
they're in a different world. Like part of your cell
1989
01:31:56.069 --> 01:31:59.899
phone is actually like a different virtual reality. But now, Like,
1990
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:04.420
everyone's going to have, like, the freaking... Just walking around and, like,
1991
01:32:05.350 --> 01:32:07.970
just picturing a new world. They're not going to actually
1992
01:32:08.029 --> 01:32:09.270
live in the world that we are in.
1993
01:32:09.329 --> 01:32:12.430
I mean, it's like we're turning into, eventually, like, cyborgs.
1994
01:32:12.449 --> 01:32:13.430
We're just little... Yeah.
1995
01:32:13.590 --> 01:32:15.390
We're turning into human robots.
1996
01:32:15.569 --> 01:32:15.829
Yes.
1997
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:18.579
I feel like it's so weird. It's like, is that
1998
01:32:18.619 --> 01:32:22.319
what is supposed to happen? Or is that what.
1999
01:32:22.659 --> 01:32:27.020
I don't know. I'm just really glad... like is scary. Like,
2000
01:32:27.060 --> 01:32:29.319
I'm just really glad I grew up when like we
2001
01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:33.140
grew up, like we grew up without all of this stuff.
2002
01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:35.829
So I know if it went away, I'd be okay.
2003
01:32:36.350 --> 01:32:40.430
But like kids now growing up, like they, they have
2004
01:32:40.449 --> 01:32:43.689
to have technology. Like I think we had a, the
2005
01:32:43.949 --> 01:32:45.989
technology we had, you remember Atari?
2006
01:32:46.409 --> 01:32:47.810
Oh yeah.
2007
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:53.199
Like we had an Atari, but like, Like, we had encyclopedias.
2008
01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:55.989
We had to read maps. Like, we have, like, skill
2009
01:32:56.050 --> 01:33:00.550
sets that kids, like, don't have anymore. So if I watched... Oh,
2010
01:33:00.989 --> 01:33:05.010
I got to think of the movie. It's on Netflix.
2011
01:33:05.029 --> 01:33:06.390
A recent one? Yes.
2012
01:33:08.090 --> 01:33:13.130
Julia Roberts is in it. It's basically the... There was, like,
2013
01:33:13.170 --> 01:33:17.229
a cyber attack on, like, America. They took out all
2014
01:33:17.250 --> 01:33:20.600
the satellites. I got to think... It's a really good movie,
2015
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:24.279
but really scary. But they took out like all the,
2016
01:33:24.300 --> 01:33:27.300
like even a sat phone didn't work. So I don't
2017
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:29.260
know if it was Russia or China, like did like
2018
01:33:29.300 --> 01:33:31.920
a cyber attack. It's like literally the cheapest way that
2019
01:33:31.939 --> 01:33:34.670
you can destroy a country because the country basically will
2020
01:33:34.729 --> 01:33:38.850
implode itself. So you first take out technology.
2021
01:33:38.229 --> 01:33:41.090
Because we're all, I just saw this, right?
2022
01:33:41.270 --> 01:33:42.510
It was good because it's like.
2023
01:33:42.890 --> 01:33:45.850
Man, it's kind of scary. Cause it's like, that's the future.
2024
01:33:46.270 --> 01:33:48.310
Well, it's probably going to happen in five years. Like,
2025
01:33:48.350 --> 01:33:49.949
I feel like when they do a movie of that,
2026
01:33:50.010 --> 01:33:53.100
it's like five years later, it happens. Like you guys
2027
01:33:53.220 --> 01:33:56.380
knew this was like, you plan this. Stop it.
2028
01:33:56.420 --> 01:33:58.840
You ever seen, don't look up. Yes. That's the kind
2029
01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:01.100
of shit that I'm like, Whoa, this is, yeah.
2030
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:01.920
Yeah.
2031
01:34:02.579 --> 01:34:04.779
But it was, it's like in our face. Now we're like, yeah,
2032
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:06.090
we're just going to show you what we're doing.
2033
01:34:06.390 --> 01:34:09.130
This is the world. This is what's going to happen. Prepare.
2034
01:34:09.250 --> 01:34:12.949
Like some people prepare. Like, we sort of prepare. We're like,
2035
01:34:13.149 --> 01:34:15.010
we need a bunker. Like, after we watched that, we're like,
2036
01:34:15.289 --> 01:34:15.949
we need a bunker.
2037
01:34:15.970 --> 01:34:16.850
We need a bunker.
2038
01:34:17.140 --> 01:34:17.880
We need a bunker.
2039
01:34:17.899 --> 01:34:20.359
Well, you heard Mark Zuckerberg is building a $ 100 million
2040
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:21.100
bunker in Hawaii.
2041
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:24.300
I mean, the next house we have, we're having a bunker.
2042
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:25.140
Straight up.
2043
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:28.340
I mean, we got, like, guns and ammo. We actually
2044
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:29.260
have food.
2045
01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:29.800
For about a year.
2046
01:34:29.859 --> 01:34:30.819
But think about that.
2047
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:32.560
If the richest people in the world are doing shit
2048
01:34:32.710 --> 01:34:33.149
like that, it's.
2049
01:34:33.069 --> 01:34:35.069
Like, well, let's go. It's because they know stuff.
2050
01:34:35.409 --> 01:34:36.970
They're pretty smart.
2051
01:34:37.649 --> 01:34:40.029
No, but they also know stuff because they're a part
2052
01:34:40.069 --> 01:34:40.369
of that.
2053
01:34:41.010 --> 01:34:41.489
There you go.
2054
01:34:41.550 --> 01:34:44.500
Like, I don't want to get political in that Hollywood
2055
01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:49.279
by like, yeah, they're the people that have money. They,
2056
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:52.539
they know stuff. Yeah, they do.
2057
01:34:52.979 --> 01:34:56.350
Yeah. It's a weird world. Really, really weird. It's getting weirder.
2058
01:34:56.810 --> 01:34:59.329
It is definitely. So I'm getting, we're, we're going to
2059
01:34:59.369 --> 01:35:03.510
have a bunker. So I feel like this, when the
2060
01:35:03.609 --> 01:35:06.470
world is starting to end and like they shut everything
2061
01:35:06.510 --> 01:35:08.989
down and everyone's like just killing each other because they
2062
01:35:09.029 --> 01:35:14.020
don't trust anybody. but it basically, so the first thing
2063
01:35:14.060 --> 01:35:17.180
they do is they shut all power, like nothing works.
2064
01:35:17.220 --> 01:35:19.159
So GPS didn't work. Your phones didn't work. So you
2065
01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:22.100
had no communication. So no one could communicate. Yeah. You
2066
01:35:22.140 --> 01:35:25.670
then have to resort back to like, well, like I
2067
01:35:25.729 --> 01:35:28.229
only know how to get down. I only know how
2068
01:35:28.270 --> 01:35:33.000
to get places by using GPS. It's like, luckily we
2069
01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.739
have skillset like remember reading maps like when you when
2070
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:37.479
you had to travel you had to print out the
2071
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.319
map you're like mapping out like by hand like well
2072
01:35:40.350 --> 01:35:42.489
then i take 91 and then we'll just make a
2073
01:35:42.529 --> 01:35:45.010
right on 83 like we know how to do that
2074
01:35:45.069 --> 01:35:47.510
kids won't be able to do that so it takes
2075
01:35:47.590 --> 01:35:51.970
all those like skills that you know just are on
2076
01:35:51.989 --> 01:35:56.489
your phone and it's real life then uh But then
2077
01:35:56.510 --> 01:35:59.310
it comes down to like people just end up and
2078
01:35:59.350 --> 01:36:04.270
like start not trusting each other or you have supplies
2079
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:07.680
that they need. It's just in the end ends up
2080
01:36:07.779 --> 01:36:10.500
and the whole world basically implodes. It's the cheapest way
2081
01:36:10.579 --> 01:36:10.979
to like.
2082
01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:12.840
Yeah. I saw this movie.
2083
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:14.340
Destroy a country.
2084
01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:15.289
I'm afraid of the name right now.
2085
01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:19.489
Because we just destroy ourselves. Yeah. It's a great movie.
2086
01:36:19.989 --> 01:36:21.100
I can't think of the name of it.
2087
01:36:21.130 --> 01:36:22.869
I feel like I need to buy something in Montana
2088
01:36:22.909 --> 01:36:23.890
or somewhere out of Cali.
2089
01:36:23.909 --> 01:36:26.350
Well, you can hang out in our bunker that we're making. Yeah.
2090
01:36:27.029 --> 01:36:28.960
We have food for at least a year. I could
2091
01:36:28.979 --> 01:36:31.600
probably ration it a little bit better if Rob didn't
2092
01:36:31.659 --> 01:36:34.439
eat so much. We have food for at least a
2093
01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:35.460
year and a half.
2094
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:37.100
But it's all the time, right? It's like, how do
2095
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:40.069
I get there in time, you know? Because the planes are.
2096
01:36:40.449 --> 01:36:43.069
Well, yeah, because all the planes went down. So, like,
2097
01:36:43.090 --> 01:36:45.890
you can't go by plane. So, you can drive, but
2098
01:36:45.909 --> 01:36:47.750
then you got to print out... Have a map with
2099
01:36:47.789 --> 01:36:50.220
you because your GPS isn't going to work to get
2100
01:36:50.270 --> 01:36:50.760
to our house.
2101
01:36:50.779 --> 01:36:52.079
I can figure that out just by signs, though.
2102
01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.039
You're just like, the sun's here.
2103
01:36:55.060 --> 01:36:56.680
The North Star. I just follow the North Star.
2104
01:36:56.739 --> 01:36:57.600
Follow the North Star.
2105
01:36:57.619 --> 01:36:57.960
That's it.
2106
01:36:57.979 --> 01:37:00.399
They're Norse, so we'll follow the North Star.
2107
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:00.979
Yeah.
2108
01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:04.930
Yeah. No, we're... You know, we're not like... I wouldn't
2109
01:37:04.939 --> 01:37:09.930
say we're preppers, but... a little bit.
2110
01:37:09.329 --> 01:37:12.770
I feel like rob would be i mean yeah yeah
2111
01:37:12.899 --> 01:37:13.550
probably that.
2112
01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:16.020
We don't trust you know we don't trust people let
2113
01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:17.920
alone the government.
2114
01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:20.760
Yes oh my god that's a whole nother thing.
2115
01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:23.140
So you know you just got to be prepared yeah
2116
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:23.960
when they.
2117
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:25.640
What like if you had to guess when would it
2118
01:37:25.699 --> 01:37:27.430
all go to What year do you think it'd be?
2119
01:37:27.670 --> 01:37:29.170
Oh, we got like five years left.
2120
01:37:29.210 --> 01:37:31.550
No, I swear to God, I feel like it's like.
2121
01:37:31.630 --> 01:37:33.329
We got like five years left.
2122
01:37:33.350 --> 01:37:35.220
I swear to God, I think there's 10 max.
2123
01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.119
Max 10.
2124
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:38.060
Max 10.
2125
01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:38.439
And then.
2126
01:37:38.979 --> 01:37:40.260
Which is such a crazy thought.
2127
01:37:40.340 --> 01:37:42.399
But then again, so I feel like people have been
2128
01:37:42.420 --> 01:37:43.640
saying shit like this forever though.
2129
01:37:44.220 --> 01:37:47.220
That, oh, we got 10 more years. You know, like
2130
01:37:47.300 --> 01:37:48.840
Y2K and shit.
2131
01:37:48.899 --> 01:37:53.869
That was baloney. But no, I think all of it.
2132
01:37:55.890 --> 01:37:59.550
So... we're definitely like on the conspiracy theories side.
2133
01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:00.369
Just so I know.
2134
01:38:00.510 --> 01:38:02.670
I don't know where you, I don't know where you stand.
2135
01:38:02.770 --> 01:38:06.869
Well, I feel like conspiracy theories are like, I'm here,
2136
01:38:07.189 --> 01:38:08.430
you know, cause I have a lot of businesses here.
2137
01:38:08.449 --> 01:38:11.789
I know. I, I very much like on the conspiracy
2138
01:38:11.810 --> 01:38:16.050
theories are like kind of just all true. Like to
2139
01:38:16.069 --> 01:38:16.489
be honest.
2140
01:38:16.550 --> 01:38:19.590
Well, they're all that they're called that, but they're not
2141
01:38:19.649 --> 01:38:21.869
conspiracies when they're actually real.
2142
01:38:22.069 --> 01:38:23.390
Which ones are you really into right now?
2143
01:38:23.569 --> 01:38:27.539
There's everything, everything. Like, Oh, there's the Hollywood route. I
2144
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:29.079
don't want to go down the hall because we're in
2145
01:38:29.100 --> 01:38:31.640
there and I want to get out of here alive.
2146
01:38:31.659 --> 01:38:33.539
So I'm just saying.
2147
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:35.119
Not a ketamine overdose.
2148
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:37.579
Like the children and the blood.
2149
01:38:37.819 --> 01:38:38.520
Oh, my God.
2150
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:39.619
Do you know about that?
2151
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:42.020
I mean, you hear about that. Like, not that I
2152
01:38:42.090 --> 01:38:43.689
hear people doing it. I'm just like, you hear people
2153
01:38:43.729 --> 01:38:45.050
talk about the conspiracy of it.
2154
01:38:46.180 --> 01:38:48.260
Yeah, like, there's no way to prove it. Like, did
2155
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.180
you hear, like, the Wayfair, where, like, they were selling children, like,
2156
01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:51.399
on Wayfair?
2157
01:38:51.420 --> 01:38:52.060
I've heard about that.
2158
01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:54.939
Did you hear? Okay, so you've heard of, like, I
2159
01:38:54.979 --> 01:38:57.180
believe all of it, just so you know.
2160
01:38:58.000 --> 01:38:58.699
What, what, what?
2161
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.979
Well, there was, like, a, like, you know, Wayfair is
2162
01:39:01.020 --> 01:39:03.420
super cheap, and then there would be a dresser called Delilah,
2163
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:07.739
and it was, like, $ 9, 000. It was, like, and then
2164
01:39:07.779 --> 01:39:09.239
there was a girl, and then they would put, like,
2165
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:11.960
a girl that was missing, like, that's the... What?
2166
01:39:12.979 --> 01:39:13.220
What?
2167
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:14.399
Like selling children.
2168
01:39:14.420 --> 01:39:15.079
I didn't see that shit.
2169
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:19.649
Oh, yeah. Oh, man. What the fuck? I don't want to.
2170
01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:22.260
I don't want to. I'm going to sound crazy. No, no.
2171
01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:22.659
But that's.
2172
01:39:23.100 --> 01:39:24.119
I mean, listen.
2173
01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:24.420
I don't.
2174
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:25.760
After. I'll tell you this.
2175
01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:27.220
Just Google like wind fair.
2176
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:29.880
After the pandemic, nothing surprises me.
2177
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:30.560
Oh, yeah.
2178
01:39:30.819 --> 01:39:33.279
After the pandemic, I'm like, this is all fucked up.
2179
01:39:33.380 --> 01:39:34.439
This whole thing is fucked up.
2180
01:39:34.739 --> 01:39:35.270
Everything.
2181
01:39:35.619 --> 01:39:37.770
So none of that shit would really surprise me. Like
2182
01:39:37.979 --> 01:39:39.149
sounds terrible.
2183
01:39:39.289 --> 01:39:43.909
Well, and it sounds like when you say things. that
2184
01:39:43.949 --> 01:39:48.989
I believe it sounds so crazy because you could never
2185
01:39:49.090 --> 01:39:54.590
imagine another human doing like horrible, horrible shit to like
2186
01:39:54.710 --> 01:39:58.250
other humans, like selling them or drinking their blood or
2187
01:39:58.369 --> 01:40:02.069
whatever it is. Like it literally sounds crazy. Or like,
2188
01:40:02.350 --> 01:40:06.180
that's why I like, you know, my parents think the government,
2189
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:09.659
like they care about us. I'm like, Oh no, they don't.
2190
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:10.619
Please.
2191
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:12.760
You don't actually believe that mom, please.
2192
01:40:13.130 --> 01:40:13.489
Yeah.
2193
01:40:13.529 --> 01:40:16.130
They're like, they wouldn't hurt us. I was like, are
2194
01:40:16.170 --> 01:40:20.340
you kidding me? They literally put like pesticides and food
2195
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:23.439
in our food so that we die. Like, yeah, we
2196
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:26.000
have the worst food. Like the FDA is a crock
2197
01:40:26.020 --> 01:40:29.560
of shit. Like, yeah, like there are there are. It's
2198
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:33.180
because that's all not actually their top concern.
2199
01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:35.479
No, it's money. It's a giant. It's a giant money
2200
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:37.859
making system. Money, control and power.
2201
01:40:38.260 --> 01:40:41.199
But, yeah, like, the things that, like, you know, you just,
2202
01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:43.060
I've been down a lot of rabbit holes.
2203
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:44.359
What about the flat earth one?
2204
01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:47.420
Oh, I'm not a flat earther, though. No.
2205
01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:48.550
Yeah, that one's weird.
2206
01:40:48.810 --> 01:40:49.829
That one's, no.
2207
01:40:50.289 --> 01:40:51.689
Because I was on, I did a pod, well, I
2208
01:40:51.710 --> 01:40:52.909
was doing a live pod with Brennan.
2209
01:40:52.930 --> 01:40:55.289
I have a friend that's a flat earther, like, and
2210
01:40:55.329 --> 01:40:57.449
he'll sit here. And he has really good points.
2211
01:40:57.949 --> 01:40:58.149
Yeah.
2212
01:40:58.170 --> 01:41:02.220
Really, really great points. And he's also, like, a brilliant man.
2213
01:41:03.260 --> 01:41:05.579
He's actually a very well-known influencer. I don't know if
2214
01:41:05.619 --> 01:41:07.380
I should. I mean, he probably wouldn't care. Do you
2215
01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:08.300
know man spot?
2216
01:41:08.380 --> 01:41:09.100
Like, no.
2217
01:41:09.260 --> 01:41:10.020
Okay. Yeah.
2218
01:41:10.060 --> 01:41:10.720
He's a flat earther.
2219
01:41:11.220 --> 01:41:14.149
Oh yeah. It will go. And he, he, he has
2220
01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:16.350
great points and you're like, come on, man.
2221
01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:18.810
Well, I was, I was on a pod for the
2222
01:41:18.850 --> 01:41:21.350
fight companion for Brendan and we was doing the rampage
2223
01:41:21.449 --> 01:41:23.789
and rampage was like, he's kind of like into the
2224
01:41:23.829 --> 01:41:24.500
flat earthing a little bit.
2225
01:41:24.510 --> 01:41:25.470
So he was talking about it.
2226
01:41:25.909 --> 01:41:29.649
And he was mentioning how like, um, emergency landings are
2227
01:41:29.670 --> 01:41:31.529
the reasons why he's like, this doesn't make sense. Cause
2228
01:41:31.550 --> 01:41:33.430
like if you had emergency landing, why wouldn't you land
2229
01:41:33.449 --> 01:41:35.050
somewhere closer and not somewhere farther?
2230
01:41:35.350 --> 01:41:35.550
Yeah.
2231
01:41:35.869 --> 01:41:39.350
But because of the topography of, so I didn't, I didn't,
2232
01:41:39.550 --> 01:41:40.470
I was going to look at it. I was going
2233
01:41:40.489 --> 01:41:41.649
to look at it today.
2234
01:41:41.750 --> 01:41:46.010
So I understand like sometimes and like you have to, yeah.
2235
01:41:46.029 --> 01:41:49.050
Avoid weather mountain. Like there's all sorts of things that
2236
01:41:49.090 --> 01:41:52.090
you have to avoid and whatnot to make a decision
2237
01:41:52.170 --> 01:41:55.590
on where to go. But, um, how about like, uh,
2238
01:41:56.569 --> 01:41:58.050
do you think we've been on the moon?
2239
01:41:58.149 --> 01:41:58.850
That's a funny one.
2240
01:42:00.100 --> 01:42:01.930
The moon well that's the one hard for me because
2241
01:42:01.939 --> 01:42:04.529
i'm like well how can we haven't gone back yeah
2242
01:42:04.590 --> 01:42:06.449
why that's the one and it's like.
2243
01:42:06.090 --> 01:42:08.529
The technology is way better.
2244
01:42:08.390 --> 01:42:10.609
Now way better i mean why haven't we been back
2245
01:42:11.149 --> 01:42:14.850
and the flag in the video it's moving and it
2246
01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:18.060
shouldn't be moving because there's like no wind up there
2247
01:42:18.659 --> 01:42:22.439
like so the in So the whole conspiracy is like
2248
01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:24.800
that that was like a movie setup.
2249
01:42:24.979 --> 01:42:27.800
Well, that was also a time in which the governments
2250
01:42:27.819 --> 01:42:29.260
were competing to be like, we're here first.
2251
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:30.579
Yeah, we're here first, so we did it.
2252
01:42:30.590 --> 01:42:32.869
So it makes sense that like maybe we were never there.
2253
01:42:32.890 --> 01:42:33.569
Maybe we lied.
2254
01:42:33.590 --> 01:42:34.890
Because it was just like, yeah, we were there.
2255
01:42:34.930 --> 01:42:36.149
Maybe we fibbed a little bit.
2256
01:42:36.170 --> 01:42:38.449
A little Hollywood action. It's weird.
2257
01:42:38.649 --> 01:42:41.430
Universal Studios like crushed it.
2258
01:42:41.689 --> 01:42:42.569
It was just for what, though?
2259
01:42:42.590 --> 01:42:42.909
They crushed it.
2260
01:42:42.930 --> 01:42:44.970
Just for like, just because, just to say it?
2261
01:42:44.970 --> 01:42:46.229
Yeah, because we were first, bitch.
2262
01:42:46.550 --> 01:42:47.350
Yeah. Boom.
2263
01:42:47.369 --> 01:42:53.140
American flag. American flag. It wasn't supposed to be waving. Idiot. Weird.
2264
01:42:53.779 --> 01:42:56.399
I don't, you know, there's so many out there.
2265
01:42:56.420 --> 01:42:58.260
I like conspiracy theories.
2266
01:42:58.300 --> 01:43:00.159
I love it. And I'm one of them.
2267
01:43:00.180 --> 01:43:02.560
Go down the rabbit hole and just get stuck.
2268
01:43:02.779 --> 01:43:06.270
Yeah. Some of them are scarier than others. Yeah. One
2269
01:43:06.350 --> 01:43:09.930
is like, it's just weird. Yeah. I just, I just,
2270
01:43:09.949 --> 01:43:12.090
how do you prove it? Yeah. Well, I guess we
2271
01:43:12.109 --> 01:43:13.689
would have to literally go to the moon.
2272
01:43:14.270 --> 01:43:17.619
Yeah. And also too, it's, it's just a lot of weird.
2273
01:43:17.939 --> 01:43:20.239
It's like, like I said, after the pandemic, I was like,
2274
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:23.890
I can't, I can't not think that some of these
2275
01:43:23.909 --> 01:43:26.869
things could be like a possibility because when I saw
2276
01:43:26.890 --> 01:43:29.710
how they moved during that was like the rationalization about
2277
01:43:29.770 --> 01:43:32.210
why here, why not? There's just like, you guys are
2278
01:43:32.229 --> 01:43:34.430
just saying stuff and people are just falling in line.
2279
01:43:34.529 --> 01:43:34.850
Yeah.
2280
01:43:34.869 --> 01:43:36.090
It's almost like how you want, they want to see
2281
01:43:36.109 --> 01:43:38.829
how far they could push people to a point just
2282
01:43:38.869 --> 01:43:40.609
to see if they could see how far they can
2283
01:43:40.630 --> 01:43:40.930
push that.
2284
01:43:41.010 --> 01:43:43.189
Oh yeah. I think, well, I think it was just
2285
01:43:43.229 --> 01:43:46.460
like a test. Like let's see where they stand with this.
2286
01:43:46.500 --> 01:43:48.800
Let's see what, How far we could push them.
2287
01:43:48.819 --> 01:43:51.319
Yeah. I think it was just a test and like
2288
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:53.880
maybe they release. So I'm part of the like they
2289
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:57.359
release that to us like that. But I think that
2290
01:43:57.399 --> 01:43:59.949
was like the test to see like, OK, are they
2291
01:43:59.970 --> 01:44:03.569
going to conform or not conform? And like we like
2292
01:44:03.609 --> 01:44:08.069
it was pretty even split. And I think now several
2293
01:44:08.090 --> 01:44:11.250
years later, if they try to do it again, we're
2294
01:44:11.289 --> 01:44:14.649
not going to conform. I think people are getting smarter now.
2295
01:44:14.689 --> 01:44:16.590
It's like, are you kidding me? This little diaper on
2296
01:44:16.609 --> 01:44:18.699
my face like it. There's so many like.
2297
01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:20.560
But then you see people who drive in their cars
2298
01:44:20.619 --> 01:44:22.569
alone with masks and you're like, wait, there are people
2299
01:44:22.630 --> 01:44:23.029
like that?
2300
01:44:23.109 --> 01:44:26.069
There are. Yeah, there are people like that. And you're like,
2301
01:44:26.350 --> 01:44:28.170
I'm sorry, man. Your brain's so small.
2302
01:44:28.189 --> 01:44:31.069
That's like, damn. You should not be driving a car.
2303
01:44:31.090 --> 01:44:31.649
No. No.
2304
01:44:32.210 --> 01:44:33.550
You should get support.
2305
01:44:33.710 --> 01:44:36.890
Yes. Or like... Or the people that wear like the
2306
01:44:36.989 --> 01:44:41.680
full hazmat suit. You're like, man, do you know how like....
2307
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.920
You know, my favorite part was this is something that
2308
01:44:46.140 --> 01:44:47.779
I think people didn't really think about with the mask.
2309
01:44:48.260 --> 01:44:48.600
It was like.
2310
01:44:49.619 --> 01:44:51.470
The whole thing about the virus at the time was
2311
01:44:51.510 --> 01:44:54.489
like it can be on things, right?
2312
01:44:54.989 --> 01:44:57.210
And then people would... They have a mask.
2313
01:44:57.050 --> 01:44:59.189
On, right? You walk to your table and then take
2314
01:44:59.210 --> 01:44:59.569
it off.
2315
01:44:59.770 --> 01:45:02.329
Not just that. That was ridiculous. That was so... Even
2316
01:45:02.350 --> 01:45:04.529
the people who believe in masks were like, this is stupid,
2317
01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:06.039
but I'm just going to do it anyways because I'm
2318
01:45:06.060 --> 01:45:07.640
a robot. I fall in line.
2319
01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:08.180
But.
2320
01:45:09.050 --> 01:45:11.510
was the fact that even the people who believed in masks,
2321
01:45:11.529 --> 01:45:13.350
this is something I think people never really thought about it.
2322
01:45:13.689 --> 01:45:15.250
They would take the mask off and throw it on
2323
01:45:15.270 --> 01:45:18.430
their seat or put it somewhere and they wear the
2324
01:45:18.470 --> 01:45:19.989
same mask and put it down and wear it, take
2325
01:45:20.029 --> 01:45:22.210
it off. And it's like, you're transferring more germs to
2326
01:45:22.229 --> 01:45:22.470
your mouth.
2327
01:45:22.489 --> 01:45:25.609
You're also transferring so many more germs because you're constantly like,
2328
01:45:26.050 --> 01:45:29.560
like I can't, I could probably go all day and
2329
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:32.579
not touch my face. Like I'm, I'm not like constantly like,
2330
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:34.930
I just don't like touch my face one. girl, so
2331
01:45:34.970 --> 01:45:37.229
I have makeup on, we don't touch our face. But
2332
01:45:37.270 --> 01:45:39.710
having a mask when we had to wear them to
2333
01:45:39.729 --> 01:45:42.430
get on an airplane or something, the amount of times
2334
01:45:42.550 --> 01:45:46.340
I was constantly just touching my face, well i'm touching
2335
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:48.789
everything else and the mask and the mask is touching
2336
01:45:48.810 --> 01:45:51.289
and then there's putting it back on again yeah it's.
2337
01:45:51.189 --> 01:45:53.890
So stupid it's almost like you were you'd have a
2338
01:45:53.989 --> 01:45:55.350
higher chance of giving.
2339
01:45:55.130 --> 01:45:58.090
Yourself that's the thing that i was like this doesn't
2340
01:45:58.109 --> 01:46:00.260
make any sense literally and then they were like i
2341
01:46:00.260 --> 01:46:02.119
remember it was like six feet apart then they're like
2342
01:46:02.220 --> 01:46:04.600
okay three feet's okay and then they're like it doesn't
2343
01:46:04.640 --> 01:46:07.199
even matter anymore yeah and then there was i bro
2344
01:46:07.380 --> 01:46:09.939
i swear to god i'll never forget this i saw
2345
01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:12.979
a thing that was like it was like from some
2346
01:46:13.189 --> 01:46:15.649
you know like from some news source um and they
2347
01:46:15.670 --> 01:46:19.229
were like yeah the the virus lives this is when
2348
01:46:19.250 --> 01:46:21.829
i lost my it lives on uh uh it lives
2349
01:46:21.909 --> 01:46:22.449
on like these.
2350
01:46:22.350 --> 01:46:24.329
Certain surfaces for so long.
2351
01:46:24.350 --> 01:46:26.270
And it was like you know on like metal lived
2352
01:46:26.289 --> 01:46:28.170
for this long and then it lived for and then
2353
01:46:28.210 --> 01:46:30.180
on like cardboard they're like it lived for this long
2354
01:46:30.350 --> 01:46:32.909
and then i remember instantly thinking like Amazon's not going
2355
01:46:32.930 --> 01:46:34.189
to like that because it lived.
2356
01:46:34.090 --> 01:46:36.409
Really long on cardboard. And then next thing you know.
2357
01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:40.399
Just kidding. It doesn't live on cardboard. It dies.
2358
01:46:40.420 --> 01:46:42.619
Next thing you know, it was like, that shit is
2359
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:45.600
gone from the internet. And I was like, oh, this
2360
01:46:45.659 --> 01:46:47.520
is like... Obviously, Jeff Bezos was like, no, no, no.
2361
01:46:47.539 --> 01:46:49.340
Put that shit away. Do not.
2362
01:46:49.619 --> 01:46:51.000
Don't say cardboard, motherfucker.
2363
01:46:51.020 --> 01:46:54.220
Yeah. No, actually, cardboard kills it.
2364
01:46:54.520 --> 01:46:54.720
Yeah.
2365
01:46:54.939 --> 01:46:56.270
I swear, there was just stuff like that that I
2366
01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:58.729
was like, none of this shit... It's like, what's happening?
2367
01:46:59.029 --> 01:47:02.949
It's all just... It's all just craziness. And people just go, okay,
2368
01:47:03.289 --> 01:47:03.909
I'll do it.
2369
01:47:04.310 --> 01:47:05.140
I'll do it.
2370
01:47:05.149 --> 01:47:08.189
We'll just follow along. Man, I don't know. I don't know.
2371
01:47:08.609 --> 01:47:09.449
I don't know what's going to come.
2372
01:47:09.550 --> 01:47:15.359
I just wish... I'm just... I use my brain. I
2373
01:47:15.380 --> 01:47:17.579
just wish people would use their brain, but we're so
2374
01:47:17.739 --> 01:47:21.319
used to, one, trusting. I don't trust anybody, so that's
2375
01:47:21.380 --> 01:47:24.829
part of it. So just because someone's like... this, you
2376
01:47:24.850 --> 01:47:27.270
have to wear this. It's like, wait, what? I want
2377
01:47:27.289 --> 01:47:29.430
to do my research first. It's like, yeah, people just
2378
01:47:29.449 --> 01:47:32.729
fall in line, just fall in line. And I, you
2379
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:34.899
get it. Cause you think like, this is like this
2380
01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:37.840
authority that you have to listen to. It's like, Oh,
2381
01:47:38.659 --> 01:47:41.909
you want to put this, shot into my like what's
2382
01:47:41.970 --> 01:47:44.149
in there have we done enough testing.
2383
01:47:43.930 --> 01:47:45.630
Well let's not get started on the fact that there
2384
01:47:45.649 --> 01:47:47.510
was one and but then you needed another one and
2385
01:47:48.170 --> 01:47:49.350
another one and another one for it.
2386
01:47:49.329 --> 01:47:51.649
To just you know you need 19 boosters and then
2387
01:47:51.689 --> 01:47:54.729
you still get it it's like yeah i didn't get
2388
01:47:54.770 --> 01:47:55.789
the shot and.
2389
01:47:55.770 --> 01:47:58.989
Like that even if you believe it just sounds weird
2390
01:47:59.050 --> 01:48:01.310
even if you're like this is a we 100 need
2391
01:48:01.329 --> 01:48:04.649
this it's like why did we need five versions of.
2392
01:48:04.630 --> 01:48:07.720
It because well like think of the flu the flu
2393
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.560
exists every single year. There's a new strand, a new strand,
2394
01:48:10.579 --> 01:48:15.409
like COVID has been around forever. It's just like this
2395
01:48:15.529 --> 01:48:19.109
different strand. And every year you're going to keep getting
2396
01:48:19.170 --> 01:48:23.140
COVID because it's just a different strand that exists. So
2397
01:48:23.619 --> 01:48:26.710
have fun with your 85 boosters. You're going to keep
2398
01:48:26.789 --> 01:48:27.319
getting it.
2399
01:48:27.529 --> 01:48:29.109
It was just like, it was just apparently that was
2400
01:48:29.149 --> 01:48:31.029
the one that was just a little more of a
2401
01:48:31.369 --> 01:48:32.329
spreadable problem.
2402
01:48:32.689 --> 01:48:36.189
Was it though? Yeah. Was it? Or that's just what
2403
01:48:36.229 --> 01:48:37.270
they were telling.
2404
01:48:37.060 --> 01:48:39.300
Us on the news. It's just so weird.
2405
01:48:39.420 --> 01:48:39.840
Man.
2406
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:41.239
And then you start to really think about it. And
2407
01:48:41.260 --> 01:48:43.159
you're like, who made all the money? All these pharmaceutical
2408
01:48:43.180 --> 01:48:45.319
companies made billions and billions and billions of dollars.
2409
01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:46.619
Billions.
2410
01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:48.279
And they were like, it's a free, but we just
2411
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:50.369
take all the money from the taxes and just give
2412
01:48:50.409 --> 01:48:51.609
it to the pharmaceutical companies.
2413
01:48:51.930 --> 01:48:52.909
Billions of dollars.
2414
01:48:52.930 --> 01:48:53.869
For profit business.
2415
01:48:53.949 --> 01:48:54.529
Yeah.
2416
01:48:54.689 --> 01:48:57.189
If it was like all genuinely free and no taxes
2417
01:48:57.250 --> 01:48:59.310
paid for it, I'd be like, maybe it's a good thing.
2418
01:48:59.890 --> 01:49:00.510
But that would never happen.
2419
01:49:00.590 --> 01:49:04.390
I would still like, it was rushed. Yeah. Yeah. like
2420
01:49:04.710 --> 01:49:08.970
rush through and it's like, what are the, like, I
2421
01:49:08.989 --> 01:49:10.949
would love to know, like, what are the side effects
2422
01:49:11.149 --> 01:49:13.109
in like a couple of years from now? Like, are
2423
01:49:13.130 --> 01:49:16.050
there going to be side effects? You don't know because
2424
01:49:16.390 --> 01:49:20.239
you literally rush this thing. I actually know I am
2425
01:49:20.300 --> 01:49:23.439
also on the, the side of like, I know more
2426
01:49:23.500 --> 01:49:26.859
people that have died from the shot. I know no
2427
01:49:26.939 --> 01:49:30.460
one wants to hear that like heart attacks and whatnot.
2428
01:49:31.100 --> 01:49:34.649
I had like, kids having heart attacks. That's not, that's
2429
01:49:34.689 --> 01:49:35.649
not normal. That's not a thing.
2430
01:49:35.670 --> 01:49:36.789
Like you personally knowing about that.
2431
01:49:36.810 --> 01:49:39.329
Oh, I don't, like, but I, yeah, think about like
2432
01:49:39.409 --> 01:49:43.149
a lot of the bodybuilders that died. It wasn't steroids, guys.
2433
01:49:43.689 --> 01:49:45.840
Like it was, a lot of them had to get,
2434
01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:50.079
because they were competing overseas, they got the shot. And
2435
01:49:50.340 --> 01:49:52.880
what the shot was doing, a lot of times like
2436
01:49:52.939 --> 01:49:56.699
people had like really small underlying issues, maybe anyway with
2437
01:49:56.739 --> 01:50:02.250
their heart. It just exaggerated that. So everyone dying of
2438
01:50:02.289 --> 01:50:06.329
heart attacks. Healthy people dropping dead of heart attacks. Soccer
2439
01:50:06.350 --> 01:50:09.789
players on the soccer field. Soccer players are literally the
2440
01:50:09.850 --> 01:50:13.210
most in shape people ever. They run like 90 minutes straight,
2441
01:50:13.250 --> 01:50:20.340
like sprints. Dying of heart attacks. Why? We're just going
2442
01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:21.180
to keep that on the hush.
2443
01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:26.920
Great times. Great times we live in. I just wonder
2444
01:50:26.939 --> 01:50:27.619
where it all goes.
2445
01:50:28.229 --> 01:50:30.649
This keeps happening. Cause like, when is it going to
2446
01:50:30.689 --> 01:50:35.130
be like actual, a real pandemic when it's like that
2447
01:50:35.149 --> 01:50:36.329
people are turning to zombies?
2448
01:50:36.350 --> 01:50:37.449
That's what I'm excited for.
2449
01:50:37.829 --> 01:50:41.060
Then it'll be like, I don't want to be a zombie. No. Uh,
2450
01:50:41.399 --> 01:50:42.220
that's why we're crazy.
2451
01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:43.319
Then I'll take a vaccine.
2452
01:50:43.659 --> 01:50:45.760
Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Then I'll take a vaccine.
2453
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:48.220
If I saw a fucking zombie. Cause I remember when
2454
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:50.100
it first started, I was like, maybe this is kind
2455
01:50:50.140 --> 01:50:52.319
of sketchy. Cause they, they were, they made it really scary.
2456
01:50:52.890 --> 01:50:54.729
And then like, you'd see all these clips from like China,
2457
01:50:54.750 --> 01:50:57.109
people like laying flat, flat face on the on the
2458
01:50:57.149 --> 01:50:59.189
concrete like they died or something right i remember seeing
2459
01:50:59.220 --> 01:51:01.100
that in the very beginning and then i was like
2460
01:51:01.340 --> 01:51:02.619
and then you go out look around like i don't
2461
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:04.420
see anyone laying on the ground like they're just dead
2462
01:51:04.819 --> 01:51:06.220
so i was like this is could it be that
2463
01:51:06.260 --> 01:51:08.239
sick but in the beginning were you a little bit
2464
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.659
like kind of like oh.
2465
01:51:09.979 --> 01:51:12.680
Uh la fit we were here for the la fit
2466
01:51:12.739 --> 01:51:16.020
when the first case you remember the first case like
2467
01:51:16.050 --> 01:51:20.050
was actually in los angeles of yeah and the la
2468
01:51:20.090 --> 01:51:23.109
fit what is happening i remember getting like we were
2469
01:51:23.170 --> 01:51:26.430
flying home and we heard about it we're like God,
2470
01:51:26.449 --> 01:51:28.369
the first case. And then it was like, Oh, another
2471
01:51:28.409 --> 01:51:30.869
case found. And like, we're like, Oh my God. And
2472
01:51:30.890 --> 01:51:33.069
then we started seeing people in like hazmat suits. We're like,
2473
01:51:33.630 --> 01:51:36.970
are we okay? Like, is this like, and you just
2474
01:51:37.029 --> 01:51:40.449
think of like, I go straight to like zombie movie.
2475
01:51:40.550 --> 01:51:45.569
Oh my gosh. Are we going to be okay? Crazy. Yeah.
2476
01:51:46.189 --> 01:51:49.020
So did you, did you at any point, like, were
2477
01:51:49.029 --> 01:51:50.180
you ever like afraid?
2478
01:51:50.220 --> 01:51:52.300
Like, were you ever, it was just like the, it
2479
01:51:52.340 --> 01:51:56.189
was just like that first, like, couple weeks where no
2480
01:51:56.479 --> 01:52:00.340
one knew what it was happening and like you're just
2481
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.319
getting all this like weird information and then after a
2482
01:52:03.340 --> 01:52:06.699
while we're like no and then like and then then
2483
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:09.020
you get it like we got it we both got
2484
01:52:09.100 --> 01:52:14.720
it yeah we're down for a day two days maybe
2485
01:52:14.939 --> 01:52:18.720
that was it got over it yeah and then one
2486
01:52:19.020 --> 01:52:22.899
then we went to mexico you can get ivermectin ivermectin
2487
01:52:22.930 --> 01:52:28.239
oh Instant. Instantly better. Yeah. That could have saved so
2488
01:52:28.279 --> 01:52:29.060
many people's lives.
2489
01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:29.699
Yeah.
2490
01:52:29.899 --> 01:52:35.029
Instantly better. It literally, and I feel like I just
2491
01:52:35.069 --> 01:52:37.029
saw that they like finally came out and said like,
2492
01:52:37.109 --> 01:52:40.869
oh my gosh, ivermectin actually does work. Yeah, they did. Yeah.
2493
01:52:40.909 --> 01:52:44.020
After they were like, Joe Rogan's taking a horse dewormer.
2494
01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:45.979
It worked.
2495
01:52:46.300 --> 01:52:49.380
It's so crazy because it's like, that's also something that
2496
01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:51.800
also won a Nobel Prize and it also had been
2497
01:52:51.899 --> 01:52:52.899
used in humans forever.
2498
01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:53.380
Yeah.
2499
01:52:54.109 --> 01:52:55.529
And then all of a sudden it was like all of.
2500
01:52:55.489 --> 01:52:57.590
A sudden it was the devil this is really bad this.
2501
01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:00.720
Is bad that's the that's the kind of i go
2502
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:03.180
wait a minute this one is like this is a
2503
01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.539
fact that it was used in humans forever yeah it
2504
01:53:05.579 --> 01:53:08.340
won a nobel prize for use in humans and now
2505
01:53:08.420 --> 01:53:10.300
it's like it was all of a sudden it was
2506
01:53:10.340 --> 01:53:12.939
a demon and joe rogan's taking a horse to wormer
2507
01:53:12.960 --> 01:53:15.739
and stay away from it and then now what two
2508
01:53:15.779 --> 01:53:18.560
three years later it's actually really good for that that's
2509
01:53:18.579 --> 01:53:21.310
where you're just like what the Like, how did that
2510
01:53:21.350 --> 01:53:23.340
even happen? Or if you look at that in a,
2511
01:53:23.409 --> 01:53:25.470
in a, in a, like its own little time capsule
2512
01:53:25.510 --> 01:53:27.550
and that timeline, you can't help but go.
2513
01:53:27.470 --> 01:53:33.640
Like, you know, the funniest thing, um, because I mean,
2514
01:53:33.659 --> 01:53:36.720
at least in United States, you can't actually get like
2515
01:53:36.760 --> 01:53:38.739
pill form. You have to like go to a doctor
2516
01:53:38.779 --> 01:53:41.760
and they weren't like prescribing that at all. Uh, cause
2517
01:53:41.779 --> 01:53:44.340
we have horses, we have two horses and it, yeah,
2518
01:53:44.500 --> 01:53:48.710
it is a dewormer. So, You couldn't go to a Murdoch's.
2519
01:53:49.289 --> 01:53:52.979
People were actually taking the paste version of it.
2520
01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:54.119
The actual horse dewormer.
2521
01:53:54.380 --> 01:53:58.600
Yes. I mean, I don't know if it works. I mean, it's...
2522
01:53:59.260 --> 01:54:04.810
But yeah, if you went to any kind of farm store,
2523
01:54:05.449 --> 01:54:08.470
ivermectin gone off the shelves. So, you know, people were
2524
01:54:08.510 --> 01:54:12.550
sitting at home just like eating the paste.
2525
01:54:13.310 --> 01:54:14.050
I wonder if it worked.
2526
01:54:14.409 --> 01:54:17.010
I mean, I... I guess it's like the same. You
2527
01:54:17.050 --> 01:54:21.289
just have to calculate the amounts. Like, well, I only
2528
01:54:21.329 --> 01:54:24.770
weigh 100 pounds. I don't weigh 1,000 pounds. So getting
2529
01:54:24.869 --> 01:54:26.800
how much paste do I eat?
2530
01:54:27.569 --> 01:54:29.640
Just imagine just sucking on the fucking paste.
2531
01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:32.979
And an apple flavor because they're usually flavored so the
2532
01:54:33.060 --> 01:54:37.739
horses eat it. So it's like apple flavor or molasses
2533
01:54:38.300 --> 01:54:39.380
or maple flavor.
2534
01:54:39.899 --> 01:54:40.640
That was definitely happening.
2535
01:54:40.659 --> 01:54:43.140
They were at home eating horse paste.
2536
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:46.579
Dude, I wonder what's next.
2537
01:54:46.979 --> 01:54:49.140
End of the world. We got five years left. So
2538
01:54:49.180 --> 01:54:50.430
enjoy it while you can. I feel like 10.
2539
01:54:50.420 --> 01:54:50.880
I feel like 10.
2540
01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:52.119
I'm going with five.
2541
01:54:52.689 --> 01:54:54.489
Really? Five. We got five.
2542
01:54:55.310 --> 01:54:59.350
We got five years left. And then just say.
2543
01:54:59.430 --> 01:55:00.970
What do you think the end would look like, though?
2544
01:55:01.449 --> 01:55:04.430
We're all going to be in cities. They're going to
2545
01:55:04.729 --> 01:55:09.939
just start pushing us all. You guys are here. Yeah,
2546
01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:13.619
they're taking over the land, man. No. They're taking over.
2547
01:55:13.619 --> 01:55:14.939
10, 10, 10. I need a few more years.
2548
01:55:15.789 --> 01:55:17.229
Well, at least you're already in the city. Like I
2549
01:55:17.649 --> 01:55:19.689
have to like, they're going to burn my property. So
2550
01:55:19.729 --> 01:55:20.449
I have to move.
2551
01:55:20.510 --> 01:55:21.170
No way.
2552
01:55:21.189 --> 01:55:25.420
Yeah. What about Hawaii? Are we just down? I'm just
2553
01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:28.000
down all the fricking Hawaii.
2554
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:30.960
Oh, you mean the burn stuff?
2555
01:55:30.979 --> 01:55:33.119
Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't a fire.
2556
01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:35.010
That's a whole nother one.
2557
01:55:35.060 --> 01:55:36.340
Yeah. That's it.
2558
01:55:37.710 --> 01:55:39.510
That's a, I didn't even, I haven't looked into that
2559
01:55:39.569 --> 01:55:39.930
one enough.
2560
01:55:40.649 --> 01:55:43.069
Oh, I feel so bad for the people that live there.
2561
01:55:43.409 --> 01:55:48.270
Like it's so weird. Like, There was no running water.
2562
01:55:48.510 --> 01:55:55.210
There was no alarm. Nothing. It was like a beam
2563
01:55:55.250 --> 01:55:56.210
shot out of the sky.
2564
01:55:56.550 --> 01:55:58.470
Do you believe in the beam?
2565
01:55:58.750 --> 01:55:59.069
Oh, yeah.
2566
01:55:59.390 --> 01:56:03.100
Damn, you're deep in the conspiracies. I love it.
2567
01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:03.689
I saw it all too.
2568
01:56:03.699 --> 01:56:05.380
I was like, what the fuck is going on? If
2569
01:56:05.420 --> 01:56:07.220
you want.
2570
01:56:07.720 --> 01:56:10.319
I like you, Brad. You're invited.
2571
01:56:10.340 --> 01:56:12.939
I'm just saying.
2572
01:56:12.979 --> 01:56:14.930
I'll be like, Five years from now, I'll be like,
2573
01:56:14.949 --> 01:56:15.489
I told you, Brad.
2574
01:56:15.569 --> 01:56:16.729
I told you.
2575
01:56:16.989 --> 01:56:19.729
Here are our coordinates. Come to this location.
2576
01:56:19.750 --> 01:56:20.210
Dude, I would.
2577
01:56:20.289 --> 01:56:20.729
I would.
2578
01:56:21.029 --> 01:56:25.550
Knock three times. Password is New England clam chowder.
2579
01:56:26.989 --> 01:56:28.699
I'll bring a bunch of guns. I got you. You
2580
01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:30.560
probably have guns, but I'll bring a bunch of guns.
2581
01:56:30.579 --> 01:56:31.899
The more, the merrier. Yeah, yeah.
2582
01:56:31.939 --> 01:56:33.000
I'll bring some supplies, too.
2583
01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:33.579
Food.
2584
01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:35.319
Maybe like The Walking Dead. You ever seen that?
2585
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:39.409
Yeah. That show was really good for the first like,
2586
01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:39.760
you know.
2587
01:56:39.770 --> 01:56:40.180
Four seasons.
2588
01:56:40.340 --> 01:56:42.539
You know, three seasons. And then you're like, oh my God,
2589
01:56:42.579 --> 01:56:45.020
how do you keep doing, how are the, how do
2590
01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:45.979
you keep doing this?
2591
01:56:46.020 --> 01:56:46.819
The show was good.
2592
01:56:46.840 --> 01:56:49.380
I loved it. Did you watch all of it? Like, yeah,
2593
01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:51.640
we stopped after like three or four and you're like,
2594
01:56:52.680 --> 01:56:56.630
they were really struggling to like keep storylines like interesting.
2595
01:56:56.689 --> 01:56:58.109
I mean, how do you after that?
2596
01:56:58.789 --> 01:57:01.210
That's gotta be hard. I feel like, isn't it still
2597
01:57:01.390 --> 01:57:01.770
on TV?
2598
01:57:02.149 --> 01:57:03.750
Yeah, well, they have spinoffs now, different spinoffs.
2599
01:57:03.770 --> 01:57:05.149
Yeah, there's definitely a different spinoff.
2600
01:57:05.170 --> 01:57:05.609
We'll do a spinoff.
2601
01:57:05.710 --> 01:57:07.989
We'll all come by, and we'll do a spinoff in Montana.
2602
01:57:08.310 --> 01:57:08.909
Yeah.
2603
01:57:08.930 --> 01:57:11.760
We'll write a whole thing, and then hopefully the world
2604
01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:13.699
survives when we come out. I'm going to also change
2605
01:57:13.739 --> 01:57:16.020
the password, guys. Okay, change it.
2606
01:57:16.539 --> 01:57:17.840
I will text it to you.
2607
01:57:17.939 --> 01:57:19.960
Yeah, text it to me or smoke signal it to
2608
01:57:19.979 --> 01:57:21.819
me because we're going to need it.
2609
01:57:21.779 --> 01:57:24.300
At that point. But I appreciate you coming on. For real.
2610
01:57:24.319 --> 01:57:27.050
It was wonderful. Now that we end with like, oh, okay,
2611
01:57:27.090 --> 01:57:27.970
Dana's a lunatic.
2612
01:57:28.029 --> 01:57:29.430
No, you're not a lunatic.
2613
01:57:29.470 --> 01:57:32.590
No, honestly, I think there's just, it's weird because I,
2614
01:57:33.289 --> 01:57:36.170
you know, 10 years ago, five years ago, if I
2615
01:57:36.569 --> 01:57:38.369
had these conversations, I'd be like, yeah, I don't know.
2616
01:57:38.390 --> 01:57:41.069
That's kind of far out there. But it doesn't feel
2617
01:57:41.310 --> 01:57:41.890
weird anymore.
2618
01:57:41.909 --> 01:57:43.090
It doesn't feel weird anymore.
2619
01:57:43.109 --> 01:57:44.050
There's too much weird shit.
2620
01:57:44.090 --> 01:57:46.250
I think the biggest thing is just like, you know,
2621
01:57:46.829 --> 01:57:52.970
just be aware and like always be like ready. Like that,
2622
01:57:53.069 --> 01:57:55.560
that's what we do. It's just like always just, you know,
2623
01:57:55.579 --> 01:57:58.579
be ready for anything. And that, that goes just with life.
2624
01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:01.510
Like take care of yourself. Health is like literally the
2625
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:05.729
most important and just be ready for anything because the
2626
01:58:05.750 --> 01:58:09.250
world is weird. It is so weird Yeah. And anything
2627
01:58:09.270 --> 01:58:09.750
can happen.
2628
01:58:09.770 --> 01:58:12.270
When are we going to train?
2629
01:58:13.220 --> 01:58:15.560
Dude, I was here all the last three days.
2630
01:58:15.579 --> 01:58:17.060
I know. I've been doing bullshit.
2631
01:58:17.079 --> 01:58:19.359
I know. I was trying. I was like, maybe if
2632
01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:24.119
he sees my story, he'll come. I don't know if
2633
01:58:24.159 --> 01:58:25.539
he would survive my workouts, man.
2634
01:58:25.659 --> 01:58:27.579
Oh, your shit workouts. You know?
2635
01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:31.439
You would not survive.
2636
01:58:31.539 --> 01:58:33.340
Come on. I've been there. I've done that already.
2637
01:58:33.979 --> 01:58:34.680
You would quit.
2638
01:58:35.060 --> 01:58:37.840
Maybe the leg workout right now. The leg workout might
2639
01:58:37.859 --> 01:58:38.739
f * * * you up right now.
2640
01:58:38.819 --> 01:58:41.140
Yeah, we did legs for like two hours.
2641
01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:43.909
Not the upper body one. I'd crush you. It's too easy.
2642
01:58:44.109 --> 01:58:44.609
You're a woman.
2643
01:58:46.170 --> 01:58:51.350
Yeah, but I'm on so many steroids, right? Just so many.
2644
01:58:51.510 --> 01:58:51.970
So many.
2645
01:58:52.449 --> 01:58:55.899
Just all of them. I'm like a human pin cushion.
2646
01:58:56.460 --> 01:58:59.890
Where's your favorite spot to shoot? See, I tried to
2647
01:58:59.930 --> 01:59:00.329
get you.
2648
01:59:00.449 --> 01:59:02.029
Where's like a normal spot?
2649
01:59:02.069 --> 01:59:02.449
Shoulder.
2650
01:59:02.789 --> 01:59:03.210
Oh, okay.
2651
01:59:03.229 --> 01:59:03.550
Glute.
2652
01:59:03.869 --> 01:59:04.710
Wouldn't that hurt?
2653
01:59:05.529 --> 01:59:06.710
Yeah, the first few times.
2654
01:59:07.029 --> 01:59:08.750
Oh, and then you what? Get used to it?
2655
01:59:08.770 --> 01:59:10.489
Yeah.
2656
01:59:10.930 --> 01:59:13.170
I have to give my goat shots right now and
2657
01:59:13.270 --> 01:59:20.210
I just like, it's horrible. Yeah. Like sub-Q. Sub-Q? Yeah,
2658
01:59:20.289 --> 01:59:20.649
he's on.
2659
01:59:20.670 --> 01:59:21.409
Not IM?
2660
01:59:22.789 --> 01:59:27.069
I think he got that for something. He has polio. Oh,
2661
01:59:27.149 --> 01:59:29.810
that's sad. Goat polio. It's not the same as like
2662
01:59:29.850 --> 01:59:33.479
human polio. It's like a vitamin deficiency. So we have
2663
01:59:33.500 --> 01:59:37.100
to like give them thiamine like every six hours, which
2664
01:59:37.140 --> 01:59:37.720
is crazy.
2665
01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:39.220
What the fuck? Doing that now?
2666
01:59:39.500 --> 01:59:39.859
Rob.
2667
01:59:40.300 --> 01:59:41.939
Damn. Every six hours? Yeah.
2668
01:59:41.979 --> 01:59:43.789
He's much better at needles than I am. I don't
2669
01:59:43.810 --> 01:59:46.149
know what I'm doing. Yeah.
2670
01:59:46.170 --> 01:59:46.970
So even in the night.
2671
01:59:47.409 --> 01:59:49.789
Yeah. So we've been waking up. I was sleeping in
2672
01:59:49.829 --> 01:59:51.789
the garage for like all last week.
2673
01:59:52.909 --> 01:59:53.350
Damn.
2674
01:59:53.550 --> 01:59:54.630
How long is that going to last?
2675
01:59:54.710 --> 01:59:57.310
I don't know. We've been doing it for eight days now.
2676
01:59:57.369 --> 01:59:58.029
It's horrible.
2677
01:59:58.750 --> 01:59:59.529
Is it going to go away?
2678
01:59:59.729 --> 02:00:01.909
I hope so. He's like blind in his one eye.
2679
02:00:01.930 --> 02:00:06.649
It's so sad. I mean, he's okay. He's not, he
2680
02:00:06.689 --> 02:00:09.649
couldn't stand before, but he can walk. He's moving. He's
2681
02:00:09.689 --> 02:00:11.340
just like really slow and staggering.
2682
02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:11.939
What's his name?
2683
02:00:12.699 --> 02:00:13.680
Rodney. Rodney.
2684
02:00:13.699 --> 02:00:14.739
I'm going to come say hi to Rodney.
2685
02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:17.420
When I come to Montana and I, I want to
2686
02:00:17.460 --> 02:00:18.079
tour the bunker.
2687
02:00:18.100 --> 02:00:18.739
Yeah.
2688
02:00:18.939 --> 02:00:22.239
When, when it's ready. Yeah. We'll shoot you coordinates.
2689
02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:23.319
I'm dead serious.
2690
02:00:23.359 --> 02:00:23.579
Yeah.
2691
02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:25.479
I actually, I want to buy a property in a
2692
02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:27.300
place like that. Like a hundred percent.
2693
02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:32.000
It's so expensive where we are now. It's very expensive. Well,
2694
02:00:32.060 --> 02:00:33.520
I mean, you're used to that, I guess.
2695
02:00:33.579 --> 02:00:33.859
Yeah.
2696
02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:34.220
Yeah.
2697
02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:37.510
For sure. Use of that. It's California's insane. Yeah. But
2698
02:00:37.550 --> 02:00:39.369
thank you for coming on for real. I'm glad we
2699
02:00:39.409 --> 02:00:43.390
ended it with you looking like a psychopath. It's okay. No,
2700
02:00:43.409 --> 02:00:43.829
you're great.
2701
02:00:43.850 --> 02:00:48.949
You're guys. I'm actually, I'm, My specialty is fitness. I
2702
02:00:48.989 --> 02:00:51.270
guess I am also a conspiracy theorist.
2703
02:00:51.289 --> 02:00:54.930
No, it's not even weird anymore. It's not weird at all.
2704
02:00:55.050 --> 02:00:57.029
Again, be ready for everything.
2705
02:00:57.909 --> 02:01:00.079
Yeah, I prepare. That's for sure. I prepare.
2706
02:01:00.380 --> 02:01:02.000
But thank you for coming on. So where can people
2707
02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:03.800
find you? Obviously, you said you have the app. That's
2708
02:01:03.819 --> 02:01:05.100
the thing you focus on the most.
2709
02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:10.039
Yeah, dlbdailyapp.com. Yeah, that's my training app. That's what I
2710
02:01:10.220 --> 02:01:17.159
focus on the most. And then, yeah, just all social platforms. TikTok. Instagram, YouTube,
2711
02:01:17.500 --> 02:01:18.199
Dana Lynn Bailey.
2712
02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:19.020
Yeah.
2713
02:01:19.100 --> 02:01:20.699
My full name. You just have to spell my middle
2714
02:01:20.729 --> 02:01:23.270
name right. L-I-N-N. Not L-Y.
2715
02:01:23.529 --> 02:01:23.670
Nope.
2716
02:01:23.930 --> 02:01:24.689
Yeah.
2717
02:01:24.710 --> 02:01:25.170
L-I-N-N.
2718
02:01:25.630 --> 02:01:27.689
Dana Lynn Bailey, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
2719
02:01:27.789 --> 02:01:29.430
It's crazy because it's.
2720
02:01:29.510 --> 02:01:31.270
A full circle moment because I've known you for so
2721
02:01:31.569 --> 02:01:33.479
long and I really appreciate you coming on today.
2722
02:01:33.819 --> 02:01:34.239
Thank you.
2723
02:01:34.380 --> 02:01:35.229
Thanks for having me.
2724
02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:35.739
Yeah, absolutely.
2725
02:01:36.119 --> 02:01:36.300
Cool.
2726
02:01:36.420 --> 02:01:36.899
Let's get a photo.
2727
02:01:38.279 --> 02:01:39.350
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
2728
02:01:39.390 --> 02:01:41.770
Make sure you subscribe every Tuesday, 11 a.m.
2729
02:01:42.529 --> 02:01:44.050
I'll see you guys next week. I love you guys.
2730
02:01:45.029 --> 02:01:49.840
I'm going to Vegas. I'm interviewing Dan. Dan will be
2731
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:51.859
next week. And I have a few more dope guests
2732
02:01:51.899 --> 02:01:53.600
lined up. But, yeah, thank you guys. Subscribe to the channel.
2733
02:01:53.619 --> 02:01:53.920
I'm out of here.