ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Join us in this casual chat as we dive into our new room setups, discuss our love for vinyl records, and share our experiences with pausing our streaming service subscriptions. We explore the joy of physical media, unexpected finds at the Mercury Store, and the niche world of classical record collecting. Plus, hear our confessions about sneaking back into Spotify and how we plan to strike a balance in our music listening habits. Don't miss our plans for a classical music special and other fun music-related rambles!
00:00 Introduction and New Setup
00:31 Rambling and Streaming Service Struggles
01:04 Record Store Adventures
02:27 Classical Music Discussion
07:08 Black Sabbath and Vinyl Collecting
09:47 Record Label Loopholes
12:59 Vinyl Pressing and Led Zeppelin Discussion
14:09 Led Zeppelin Documentary Review
14:36 Black Sabbath Concert Hopes
16:02 Confessions of Using Spotify
17:04 Balancing Digital and Physical Media
19:22 Morning Alarms and Music Habits
21:50 Exploring New Music and Albums
24:09 Classical Music Challenge
25:07 Closing Remarks and Social Media Plugs
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Hello. Hello. We're in the room. We are.
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I'm in a different room today. New
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setup. Got records above us just to
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prove that we like records and to remind
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people what sort of podcast we have. I'm
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in the same old room. Bit jealous of
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your sofa. We sat in front of the sofa.
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Saw you on the sofa and I'm like, what
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am I doing? Why am I sitting? I don't
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have a coffee table. You need a coffee
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table. The possibilities after that are
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endless. I'm excited to be doing another
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episode as always. We have got a little
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bit of rambling to do, maybe some
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records,
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and we're going to be chatting a little
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bit about our journey through postponing
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our streaming service subscriptions and
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how we're getting on with that. I
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haven't got a lot of good news if I'm
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honest. Oh no, I'm really disappointed
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myself. But yeah, it's all good. It's
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week two. There's always going to be
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setbacks in this journey to sobriety.
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So, what's new then, Bill? How's your
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week been? And how's music influenced
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your week or been involved in your week?
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Yeah, man. I had a good weekend. I got
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some records out. I was listening to
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some music. I had a good experience with
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that. I think I mentioned at the end of
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the last episode that I would be going
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to look on the search for some records
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and did get one. Uh I got a very
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fitting. So I got myself I went to the
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store with the intention of finding
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either an early Black Sabbath album or a
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jazz record featuring Alvin Jones on
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drums. So probably a John called Train.
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And I went to our old friend the at the
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Mercury store if you remember him. The
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kitchen sink guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
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didn't know he does good records. Yeah.
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No, to be fair, he's got quite a good
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collection of classic rock, you know.
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He's got a section dedicated to Beatles,
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section dedicated to Elvis section, but
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yeah, a good corner for classic rock.
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He's got a load of classical records,
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which I guess kind of look a bit
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untouched. They're a bit hard to like
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browse through. I think that they just
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kind of accumulated and not really been
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sold as much. I'm not surprised with
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that. It's weird classical records and
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is it cuz classical records there is a
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market for it and some of them are
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really valuable. Yeah. No, of course. I
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just wonder if the culture of record
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collecting exists with that audience. I
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don't know the way in which the culture
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has evolved in music or music that we
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know today.
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For the most part, the path that records
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have taken in terms of collecting them,
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going to the store, buying your favorite
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band's new album and their promotion
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towards that and their brand in a way,
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isn't it? Each band and artist kind of
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has their own individual brand that's
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assigned to the records that get
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released. But in classical music, that
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doesn't exist. If I was Yeah. If I
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reckon there was an abundance of
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classical records in the heyday of vinyl
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printing and pressing, you know, when
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vinyl records was the only way to
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consume music, you know, I can imagine
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there would have been a lot of vinyl for
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classic being pressed at the time,
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especially for like older audiences. And
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then probably as classical music is less
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popular than more contemporary styles of
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music these days. Yeah, the demand for
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the classical record isn't as high as
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the amount of records that exist in the
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world. I'd agree with that. I've never
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thought of it. We'll look into that.
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Yeah, I'm sure there is a a niche fan
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base for it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, for
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good reason. Cuz it's far out of our
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sort of expertise. Yeah, I think it's
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something maybe that could be our next
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challenge. Something along the lines of
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a classical record that we love.
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challenge to actually do a bit of
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research about it and kind of think
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about the composers we might be into and
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then see if we can find the record. You
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could play the same game that we play
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with the records we know with that
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because what was the only thing that
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I've dabbled with in the last year is
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that Riza album remember mentioned how
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he wrote a ballet and then went on tour
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with it and then brought out a record
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that was just completely classical.
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Yeah, I really enjoyed that and it kind
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of did feel some sort of movement from
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it. It's strange. It's like trying to
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understand a different language. It's
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probably just exposure and like yeah,
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you kind of need to develop an ear for
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it. Some of it probably resonates quite
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naturally, but compared to sitting down
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and listening to a 3minut pop song, it's
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going to kind of probably spark faster
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dopamine hit maybe than listening to a
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half hour symphony or whatever. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's just been
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shunned from the modern day society for
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it to be acceptable. It's almost like
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it's not a genre. It's a complete
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alternate thing. I've met people that
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are into classical and who would
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identify. I mean, for example, there
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were some musicians at the Birmingham
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Conservator who were in the orchestra
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there, so they were obviously into their
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classical. The guy who first started
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teaching me drums, he loved rock music,
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but he also love classical music. It
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actually seemed maybe more animated when
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talking about classical pieces than and
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if you've ever like not long ago I went
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with a friend to a theater like we kind
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of just booked a ticket cuz we were in
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the town that day just cuz it was an old
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theater and it be nice architecture and
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just you know something to do like while
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away and there was you know a recital
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there. It's a big theater full of people
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so it does exist. We just aren't in
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those bubbles. That's it, man. And I
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think we should be. It's shameful to say
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that I don't know enough about classical
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music, but I don't think I'm alone. And
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yeah, maybe something to venture into,
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look into. Maybe we can do a hear me out
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classical special. That's a great idea.
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That's an amazing idea. Right. Okay.
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That's coming soon. Wicked. In fact, I'm
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going to scrap everything else I'm
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doing. Okay. So, you went to what was it
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called again? Mercury stores. Went up to
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the guy like, "Can I see the records?"
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Kitchen sink. No. And then he walked
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towards the back and looked to He's
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like, "Have you been here before?" I was
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like, "Yep." He's okay. But he didn't
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give me an introduction or tour last
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time. So, I've still missed out on that.
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I feel like the first time you went, he
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didn't say, "Have you been here before?"
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No. He just let me in. You didn't say,
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"Here's the sink." No, he didn't show me
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anything. [ __ ] But yeah, so I was in
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there to look for either, like I said,
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Black Sabbath or Alvin Jones. I checked
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there and I did find Black Sabbath
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pretty fast actually. I was like, okay,
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wicked. Okay, let me just see if I can
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find Oven Jones. Anyway, I was having a
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look around trying to find the jazz
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section and I was like, where is it? And
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I didn't look next to the kitchen sink
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at first cuz I remembered last time that
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had been where the singles were. But lo
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and behold, You finally look next to the
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sink and there was the jazz records. So,
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he's done a re reorganization.
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Yeah, he's put the goodies next to the
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sink. I didn't find any lab singles this
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time.
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One for you. One for me. I'm surprised
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you such a good I I did find a John Paul
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train record there and it did have Elvin
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Jones on it, but it was just three
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tracks and it was two live recordings
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which Elvin Jones wasn't on. Yeah. And
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and then one studio track with Alvin
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Jones and that was like €40 or
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something. And I thought, well,
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considering that I'm looking for an
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Alvin Jones record, maybe I'll look for
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it. Is it all new? Is it a used vinyl?
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Like vintage vinyl? Interesting. So,
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yeah, I know that those cold train
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records can go through a lot. You're
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telling me that the Black Sabbath record
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you have is an early pressing. It is.
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Yes. So, this is a repressing, but from
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1976.
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Decent. I think the original came out in
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71.
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I wanted to get it in the 70s. That's
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incredible, man. That's really cool.
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It's really good. Yeah, it's really
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nice. The disc is like there's no
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scratches or marks or anything. There
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was maybe a bit of damp on it or a bit
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of moisture on it. That's all right.
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Gives it character. I cleaned it and
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it's all good. So, nice. Let's have a
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look. Is it on? Oh, it's on NEMS, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I didn't
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know much about NEMS before. Oh, I
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looked it up afterwards. Um, they
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repressed a bunch of stuff in the ' 70s
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and '8s on apparently cheaper vinyl.
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They did like budget releases. So, they
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weren't bust in the end, I think. Cuz
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remember when I showed my Masters of
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Reality one on the part that was on
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Nems, so it's the same sort of thing. I
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looked into it. I was like, "Yeah, it's
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like I forgot now." What? It was kind of
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like a now that's what I call like I
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don't know like is it? No, not really. I
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I I looked it up and apparently it was a
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label run by I forgot manager of the
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Beatles or something related to the
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Beatles. Oh yeah. No, but apparently
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there was like some kind of like
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licensing loopholes with the Sabbath
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material cuz
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uh yeah, I don't know. But they
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basically just took advantage of some
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situation where they were able to get
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the license for the early black sabo
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stuff and they repressed them on cheaper
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vinyls.
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Yeah, it's in good nick and the song was
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obviously just as good. So Brian
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Epstein, right? Beatles manager uh it
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was his company
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and came after his death which is really
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confusing me. Well, I guess the label
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was still running after he died. True.
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Yeah, I'm lucky enough. Is it all
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Sabbath? So, they must have found like a
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loophole for Sabbath records. I think
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Sabbath weren't well managed.
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I know that Don Arden was in involved.
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He did some dodgy dealings. Yeah, his
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dad. Yeah. After reading his biography,
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apparently they didn't even get any cash
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in the early days. if they ever wanted
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anything, they had to call him up and
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was like, "Can you just buy me a
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Ferrari, please?" And it was just like,
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"No way. No way." I'm seeing other
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records now, but it is a lot of metal as
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well. So maybe they found a loophole
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with like metal music. If anybody else
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knows more about it, let us know. But
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yeah, I think it is interesting that
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they managed to find a little bit of a
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loophole. Just to add, it is game fold
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as well though, so it is nice. Hey, look
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at that, man. Nice. But yeah, in the
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spirit of early classical rock, I just
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picked this one out of my collection and
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go this is spin as well. Nice classic.
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This is also Oh, look at that. And this
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one is actually pressed the year it came
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out. Is it Is it a plum label? No, it's
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Atlantic. Is it? Yeah, but is it the
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plum colored ones? No, it's green and
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yellow. Orange. Nice.
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I've seen some super rare ones that are
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like a plum label or something. Well,
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this is where the tool comes in. Yeah,
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it's the handy tool that Bill has gone
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ahead and used. Oh, wait. Hey, like you
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couldn't have picked a worse album to
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use the tool for. Why? You bought Black
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Sabbath by Black Sabbath. No, it worked
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for both of them. That's obviously the
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tool is the tool is very sophisticated.
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Yeah. Uh, I just typed in Black Sabbath.
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Black Sabbath. There was a Then I
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searched this record on the
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tool and then it says, "You want to
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share your screen?" Cuz I'm getting it
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wrong. It's not working. Couldn't find
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release. Did I spell it wrong? Me to
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have a go.
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Oh, there we go. Oh, wait. That's what I
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need to do. That's the Yeah, that's the
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the price for an original copy. And
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given that this came out in the same
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year, even though it's not an original
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pressing, I thought, "Oh, wow. Maybe
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this is worth something." But then when
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I actually looked up this pressing, it
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was like 30 quid. Yeah, I think that
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would be the one with those Plum Labels
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that I was talking about. There's I
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think there's a problem with this
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description as well. The entitled fourth
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studio album by the English rock group
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Led Zeppelin. The word is wrong.
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commonly known as Led Zeppelin 4. But
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also, this isn't the fourth studio
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album, is it? No, it's too was released
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in November. No, it's giving you the
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description for Led Zeppelin 4. Yep.
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Whoever owns this and runs this trusty
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tool, but we're going to inform them to
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kind of just work on that when I'm sure
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they will. In no time, I'm sure they're
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going to have it just sorted. It's just
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going to be fine. In the meantime, just
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check out site anyway. You might as
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well. Well, obviously it's it's fitting
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because it's a great album at the Black
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Sabbath album. Led Zeppelin 2 obviously
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is amazing as well. There was a
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documentary out this weekend in the
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cinemas becoming Led Zeppelin. I heard
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some friends go that went from the
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sounds of it. It was a good film. If
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you're a big Led Zeppelin nerd,
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apparently might not have a lot of stuff
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that you haven't already seen, but it's
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well made and enjoyable. Definitely go
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and check that out. I imagine they've
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got it going on at Mockingbird or
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something. Cinema, maybe. I don't know.
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Check it out. Check it out. With the
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Sabbath record, it's obviously fitting
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because of what's happened that we
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mentioned in the last episode, which is
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the last gig. at the time of recording
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this. By the time this comes out, it's
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probably going to be long gone since
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this being like news. But yeah, we've
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we're trying to get tickets. Currently
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not successful as uh most of the world
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cuz in high demand. I'm just hoping they
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do another date. Yeah, through popular
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demand. I wouldn't be surprised. The
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only question would be will it be
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possible for there to be another date?
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feel like it's he's dropping. It's
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demanding already. He's doing two sets.
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Sabbath. It's Oussie Osbor set and the
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Black Sabbath set. Really? His build
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does both on the poster.
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Yeah. And obviously he's really not
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doing good. He's in quite a debilitating
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condition. He's probably going to be sat
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down, but you know, you have to see him
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play. So what's more important? Yeah,
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this is it. No, obviously Aussie if
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you've only got the one gig in. Yeah,
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fair enough. But it's just a shame cuz
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it's on home soil, man. Anyway, there's
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still a chance we're going to try and
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nab some in general admission, which I'm
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pretty and pretty sad. There's a pretty
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sad tomorrow. So, yeah, we'll see what
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else has been going on. I've got some
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confessions to make about our journey in
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quitting Spotify. Forgive me, Billy, but
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I have sinned this week. What have you
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done? I was in the car and oddly enough,
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I was in the mood for some country
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music.
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Okay. So, I initially was like, well,
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not going to get my fix on the radio for
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that. It's quite niche. And, you know,
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there's not a country radio station in
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my car. So, I've opened Spotify and
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searched for an album, found one, and
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then I listened to it on Spotify.
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No, the album I was going to forgive.
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It felt like a drug that I hadn't took
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in ages. And then you got all that
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dopamine. I got so much dopamine off it.
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It was
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amazing. It was just what I wanted. It
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was Yeah. euphoric. But I want to make a
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point, right? I'm going to go back again
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to not doing it, but I want to make a
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point that it's about balance. It felt
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good to do that in the way that I did,
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but up until that point, it wasn't my
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main portal of enjoying music. So, with
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the right balance, I think you could
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enjoy the playlist on Spotify more. I
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found a lot of fulfillment from it, but
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in excess you don't. So everything in
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moderation, you know, it's like
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everything, isn't it? So it was kind of
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it was a lesson to realize that, but
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also equally I do feel bad and I'm going
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cold turkey again. I'm just going to
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maybe try I've got this trigger point.
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It's like when I go in the car or, you
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know, when I'm I'm going to try and get
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things set up so that that doesn't
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happen again because you kind of get the
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chance to appreciate it more because you
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haven't had it. Like if you hadn't had
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this experience of trying to avoid it
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and you just you probably wouldn't even
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remember that you had listened to
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country music on that car journey.
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Whereas now you had a euphoric
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experience with it, which is probably
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more than you can say for most car
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journey music listening experiences you
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had prior to the experiment. Yeah, good
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point, man. I think initially there was
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a weird euphor euphoria last week with
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picking the albums I was playing and
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there was different sense of euphoria
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with letting Spotify take the reigns a
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bit. Yeah. If Neil's different, I
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personally found that it was beneficial
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to dabble with both during that. But
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that's what this whole experiment is
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about, isn't it? Is stepping back and
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observing more what our habits are and
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all to have a more fulfilling experience
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from it and not just passively existing
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really in this space. I maybe have a bit
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of a confession as
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well. Here we go. See, I'm curious. it.
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Would this confession have come out if I
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weren't so honest just now and humble? I
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No, I'm sure it would have. I maybe
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haven't really considered it properly
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yet and I've kind of just ignored that
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it's really a cheat or whatever. I have
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an alarm. My morning alarm is basically
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just spot like my Alexa is just
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triggered to play
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Spotify and play this kind of comes on.
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I don't actually pay attention to it.
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What? It's It's like you're letting it
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completely take the reigns. You're not
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even conscious and then you are. And
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it's like, "Hello, Billy. Welcome to
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another day where I will control your
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listening experience." I'm going Black
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Mirror with it a little bit. But um no,
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cuz I found having a playlist being a
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great alarm in the morning, not as a
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music listening experience, but just as
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a way to wake up in the morning. No,
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fair enough, man. Rather than having a
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really aggressive [ __ ] wake up thing.
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Yeah, it's good to build. The playlist
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is just on a really low volume and it's
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more time to wake up. If I've gone to
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bed on time, then I wake up on time and
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I know it's time for waking up. Yeah,
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fair blame, man. I'm surprised it's
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still working, to be honest. I thought
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it would stop working after I cancel my
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subscription, but it just has just been
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working. Doesn't mean Have you managed
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that? Probably just because it's been
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set for so long like that. It's just
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forgot to check if it's logged in. Yeah,
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fair enough, man. Well, we've both seen
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this week. Mine is clearly
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worse, but we're working. If you listen
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to country music. Yeah. Couldn't you
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find a country radio station? Yes. I
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could have been rooting and tooting on a
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DAB radio station before you know it. I
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could have been just getting my country
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on guiltree.
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And I guess that raises the question of
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where did we draw the line? Because if
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you get to the point with digging out
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niche radio
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stations to like the playlist just to
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find a playlist. Oh, this one's a radio
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station, not a playlist. Even though
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it's just 20 24/7 country music with no
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talking. No, I think it's about choice
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of conversation. It's about connection
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between people and saying, "Look, I hope
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I found this. Give it a listen." I think
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it's detached a little bit, but there's
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no reason that you can't benefit from
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both. And I think that's what I'm
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starting to realize given the day and
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age that we're in. It's like you've
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literally got a pencil in a day to
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discover a new album. Cuz if you don't,
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then you won't. Well, I think part of
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the project would be each week we make
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an effort either to find a new
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album or to revisit an old favorite. So
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for me last week it was Black Sabbath. I
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didn't own it. So I went out and bought
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it. I did pay more for it than I think I
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should have though. Cost me
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€50 on the higher end. It is good Nick
00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.430
though. Things tend to be a bit more
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expensive on motor as well because we're
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fair enough. Small island in the middle
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of nowhere. And look at the moment, man.
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I mean, that thing is in demand. You
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could probably sell that. Swapping for
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some tickets.
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Everyone here is getting a ticket. I
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don't think you buy a beer at the
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stadium with that. Yeah, but I'm still
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happy boy. I think my budget for music
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for the rest of the month now is kind of
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like tough. Fair enough. But it's still
00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:44.950
a good choice, man. It's a great album
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and Yeah.
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So, okay. I guess that wraps it up. I
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.110
think that's good. Yeah, we're going to
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continue our journey of trying our very
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best to consume more physical forms of
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media and going to keep you updated with
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consuming digital media as well. I've
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been listening to a lot of NTS and I'll
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find a song on the radio station I
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really like and then I'll Shazam it.
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I've never really huge, but now I am.
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And I guess that is a new way of music
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discovery to be fair. I much prefer
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doing that than, you know, just having a
00:23:21.919 --> 00:23:23.590
playlist on the background and then just
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thinking cuz you know what it is if it's
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.470
on Spotify and I can find it. Oh, I like
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.390
that song. I'll go ahead and find it.
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And then you get lost in the ether of
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.110
the playlist. I kind of just add song
00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:36.950
like on Spotify. I would if I hear a
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.510
song that I like, I would click add like
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add to liked songs, but then I just kind
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.110
of had this list of liked songs that I
00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:47.190
didn't really know anything about, you
00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:48.870
know, maybe just heard it once or twice
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in passing and then forget the name of
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the artist or the song. Yeah. Don't
00:23:53.360 --> 00:23:56.630
develop that same bond with the music
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like I did with the albums that I got
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.710
excited for before. Yeah. I think we've
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.669
got an interesting challenge. Maybe we
00:24:05.679 --> 00:24:10.669
can do the record next week. Mhm. The
00:24:10.679 --> 00:24:13.510
classical hear the Alps. Yeah, let's do
00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:16.149
that. That'll be an excuse to dig out
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some venue.
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Yeah, I think I've got some in the loft
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actually. Failing that, I'm going to hit
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up a charity shop or if I can't find a
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actual record cuz I I just want to buy
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one now that we're talking about it.
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We're just going to try and find an
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album that resonates with us. We're
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going to have to spend the whole week
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listening to classical music. No, we can
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do like a series like it's an evolution.
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See where we like this is week one and
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then maybe in a month or two we can do
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part two and see how classical evolution
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has come along. Mac counts as classical,
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right? It's pretty much the same. Isn't
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that like Moar? Isn't Mo in Fleetwood
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Mac? He was Fleetwood. Mo Fleetwood was
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the drummer. Yeah, I think so. I think
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so. Yeah, he's on that. That's him.
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That's him. That's him before he was
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born. Mick Fleetwood's son. But anyway,
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tuned for more rambles next week and
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really do with some info on albums." Go
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Check it out. Check out unwave.net. And
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yeah, just a bit of fun. Anything else?
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No, I think that's good. It's been a
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pleasure as always. Catch you later. See
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you next week. See you next week.