Triple Feature: Varsity Blues/The Program/Necessary Roughness

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The following may contain offensive language, adult humor, and or
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content that some viewers may find offensive. The views and
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opinions expressed by anyone speaker does not explicitly or necessarily
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reflect or represent those of Mark Ratleage or W two
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M Network. Please listen with caution or don't listen at all. Hey,
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a triple feature of three films on the screen.
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One's a little heavy, one's a little sleek, and one's
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just cough between try and over analyze.
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Take the wild Eyes.
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Popcord, take your seat three times, the fun three times,
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the Tree's.
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Oh, yes, sir, it's the sport of kings, better than
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diamond rings. And that's why we're here to sing football,
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Yes sir. That time of the year again, Jason, it
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is it is.
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She caught me in drink. It is. It is Super Bowl,
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the lead up to our Super Bowl this sun. We
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always do a Super Bowl show prior to the actual game.
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Yep. Before we we're gonna talk. And I'll repeat this
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in a few minutes formally, but this year's celebration of
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football in the Super Bowl we're looking at and I think, Jason,
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you picked all three of these necessary. Yeah, this is
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an All Jason Show. Isn't every Jason Jason Show Necessary
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Roughness Varsity Blues in the program? I fucking I don't
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know if you chose the program or not, but I
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love the program. I couldn't win.
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It's one of my favorite It's it's one of my
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favorite movies simply because it's Yes, yes, I mean the
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belly shirt Steve Latimore and a belly shirt and sweatpants
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with a belt on is so totally nineties.
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So you know he's in both the program Man Necessary Roughness.
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Yeah I was saving that, but yes, he's in a
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necessary program. So is the guy that plays Mac. He
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is also in right who.
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I looked up his Wikipedia because like, what does he's
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been in only sports movies in the nineties? Got it?
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What a career.
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And also I also have a funny joke when we
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get to the program.
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Before we get into the introduction and the actual podcast,
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let's talk a little real sports, the Magic and the
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Nets suck. Let's talk football though. Who do you like
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this Sunday? And before you answer, let me say this.
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I'm I'm going with the Seahawks. I'm going with the
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Sea because they have the best defense in the NFL,
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and poor Drake May has no line, so that boy
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is going to be like Whiteley Coyote and he's just
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gonna get sacked all game. There you have it.
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I want to I know this is probably gonna be
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unpopular opinion. I'm wanting the Patriots to win, but there's
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a reason. Okay, I'll be I don't care which team wins.
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I don't. I don't have like Patriot arrangement syndrome the
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way a lot of people do. So you're not gonna
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offend me. What's your case?
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Well, because if the Patriots win this Sunday, win another
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Super Bowl, it shuts all Stealer fans up. For the
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Patriots would now have the most Super Bowls wins in history.
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So Steeler fans can shut the fuck up.
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That has to be a very West Virginia thing, because
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I didn't know.
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Was still Steller fans are inferable.
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Steeler fans. I've lived in either New York or Florida,
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so I'm not hearing a lot of Steeler fan talk. So,
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like I say, this must be a very West Virginia thing.
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It's on line everywhere. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, But I
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mean I'm I'm a Sam Garnald fan and I love
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JSN also, I also like Drake May and I like
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the coach for New England. He is he is a
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he's a psychopath.
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What's you bet? What'd you bet?
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I put down? I put ten down on the Seahawks
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to win, but the Pats to cover. Drake May for
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over one hundred May and donald both for a hundred
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over one hundred and fifty yards one touchdown a piece.
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Uh.
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And I took JSN over fifty yards, Cooper Cup over
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ten yards and Stefan Diggs over twenty five yards.
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So you did like a ninety parlay? Got it? What's
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your payout if it actually.
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Hits, I'll payouts like two seventy nine.
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Okay, I put fifty, only did three because I'm not
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a psycho. I'm a very efficient better. I just bet
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a lot. But I got Seahawks money line. I've got
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uh Sam, Sam Donaldson over two touchdowns thrown, and I've
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got JSN over a six point five receptions for a
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payout for a payout on ten dollars of Who's of oz?
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Who's a YadA YadA YadA.
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Really compelling stuff to start the show.
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Yeah, one s ninety one. But that's that's kind of
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like my My betting model these days is get to
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like a you know, get to like a plus one
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twenty eight on a fifty dollars bet. And it's the
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old prop Joe from the wire thing of you buy
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for one, you sell for two, bet fifty, bet fifty
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net fifty, bet fifty net fifty. That's what I do.
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That's that's perfectly fine. And a lot of people when
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they're and this is kind of funny because I actually
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started March first. I actually have a college class on
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sports book betting. But a lot of people don't look
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at it like that. They look why the.
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Federal government took away people's rights to get loans?
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Go on, I well, actually it's a mathematics class for statistics.
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But they they say, well, I've bet ten dollars and
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one hundred and twenty and I'm like, no, you wont
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one hundred and ten. They're like, and I'm like, you've
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got to take away your ten dollars you bet You're just.
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I bet fifty win one hundred, I bet I bet fifty.
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Right, and and people don't understand that. So I've got
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an NBA that going on right now. I mean, I
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bet I had a dollar sixty four and I bet
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it to pay out thirteen dollars.
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Well, I'm fucking okay, So I have a four leg
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So sports betting, sports betting and working from home has
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turned me into just an all sports watcher. So like
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I wake up in the mornings and I watched ladies tennis.
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My girlfriend says it's because I like to hear them
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grunt and wear tight outfits. She's not wrong. The second
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thing I've gotten into is soccer, specifically like saudy soccer
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because it's on the middle of the day and it's
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fucking hilarious. Like the team that I bet on it
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was a Alhilal versus Al Oac dude, and Al Helal
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won like six fucking goals to nothing. It was great,
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like the best soccer I've ever seen. But I did
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a four leg bet that one that one won, And
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I've got the nets and the magic to go over
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two nine, which they might make it, but they have
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to make me fucking sweat because like they couldn't find
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the fucking rim for the first half of the game,
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the first quarter of the game, and then I've got
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the Charlotte and Rockets over two thirteen, and then I've
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gotten if we and if I make it that far,
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the Warriors versus the Suns over to twelve. That page
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on fifty, that page two ten. What you got for tonight, buddy,
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I mean.
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I just got. I mean I just took all money lines.
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That's the Magic, Magic, Hawks, Raptors, Rockets, Spurs, and Sons
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all money line, I said. I mean, I like a
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lot of dolls.
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Bet you like a lottery ticket betting, don't you.
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Well, I mean to get any significant payout. I mean,
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I'm not going to bet a dollar sixty four to
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win three dollars. So I just put all money lines
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so I can at least get twelve dollars the payout.
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That's fair, all right. So you're you want the Patriots
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to win to shut the Steel Steels fans the fuck up.
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But you think that you're you're with me and most
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sane people that the Seahawks all day long.
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Yeah, as long as they don't get down to the
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one yard line of decide the pass and get an interception.
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I'm thinking it's gonna be close to the game with
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h It's gonna be a spanking it's gonna be like
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in the forties for the for the Seahawks, somewhere between
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ten and twenty for the people.
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I think my prediction is A is A. I'm going
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to say thirty to thirty to twenty nine. I think
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it's going to come down to a fail two point conversion.
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Let me ask you quick questions since we're talking football,
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and I think this is okay. It's the last general
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football question I asked you before we get into the films,
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which is why we're here. Why do the old lines
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suck in the NFL.
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Wide because nobody develops that position any longer. Nobody wants
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to be an offensive lineman. They want to be the
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stat sheet rather than a contributor. You have too many
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egos with they just like in the NBA, nobody wants
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to be that being as rideman type player that will
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go out and be a vital cog. Everybody wants to
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have enormous stat sheets and have no defense and to
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win championships and jump on super teams.
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Well, when the Patriots and when then, when the Patriots
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lose the Sunday it's their own fucking fault. Because Drake
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Mays a good quarterback he has targets. Problem is he
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has no time and he doesn't have Lamar Jackson Lakes,
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so he can't. I mean, the fucking Tampa would have
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made it further into the playoffs or into the playoffs
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rather than the stupid Panthers had they had an no line.
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But I watched football all season, a lot of Monday
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night football, and I swear to God the difference between
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a winning team and a losing team was their ability
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to protect the quarterback because not all these guys have
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running back quarterbacks the way fucking Ravens do.
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If you want to say that, look directly at the Chargers,
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who are destined to get Justin Herbert kielled.
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Mister Herbert all season long.
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Oh no, yeah, we're we're going to talk about that
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Necessary roughis so listening to everyone'smy or Justin Herbert in
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necessary Roughness. Once we get into the field of that.
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All right, good conversation. Tonight on Triple Feature, we're covering
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three football movies from the late eighties and nineties that
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approach the sport from very different angles. Varsity Blues, The
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Program and Necessary Roughness. Varsity Blues directed by Brian Robbinson,
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written by W. Peter Liff was released in nineteen ninety nine,
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stars James Vanderbeek, fresh off his Dawson Creek run, John Voight,
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Paul Walker before he died, and Scott Cohn and made
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about fifty four million on a roughly sixteen million dollar budget.
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It's the small Town Texas football movie, Pressure Injuries and
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a Tyrant Coach that became a cult staple. The program,
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released in nineteen ninety three, was directed by David s
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Ward and stars James Cohn yet Again, Omar Epps, Greg
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shefferd Christy Swanson yet Again because we can't get enough
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Christy Swanson on this network, and Halle Berry. It aimed
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for a darker, more realists that look at college football,
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steroids and exploitation, grossing around twenty three million and becoming
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best known for its controversies rather than its box office
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and finally for some ships and giggles. Necessary Roughness from
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nineteen ninety one by directed by Standragotti, stars Scott Bakula,
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Robert Closua, Sindbad and Kathy Ireland. It's the Disgraced Team
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Rebuilt comedy made for about thirteen million, earning roughly twenty
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five million, and it helped codify a formula Hollywood reuse endlessly.
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Three movies, three tones, three decades of football storytelling. Let's
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get into it. You wanted to start with necessary roughness,
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which is the exact opposite of where I wanted to
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start it. So, but this is your podcast, Jason, so
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go ahead and take over necessary roughness.
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Necessary roughness it was. It was ahead of its time.
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It was this down and out football team. And this
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is kind of loosely based on the You scandal from
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the eighties where SMU received the death penalty after having
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a winning season, UH for a lot of recruiting violations,
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paying for players and everything. So that's where the loosely
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based storyline for necessary reuveness come from. They they went out,
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they took a look because you know, SMU basically see
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what what the NC layer cars is a death pedal
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where they had to forfeit it like multiple seasons. And
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I think it took like two, I want to say
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two to three years UH before SMU even fielded a
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football team. They had no scholarships, so they did exactly
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what they did in necessary reupness. They turned to the
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student body and it didn't it was it was very rough.
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SMU did not rise to a prominence till the mid
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two thousands. That's when the program actually rebounded from getting
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the death curse to actually build up to where, you know,
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to be a decent mid mid major program. What we
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see today, Scott Vaculate in this movie is a I
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think he's thirty five character.
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Doesn't look at day over forty.
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No, he's a thirty five year old former former high
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school prodigy quarterback who is recruited, who comes out as
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a freshman and leads the Armadalers to a reputable season.
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is the penalty.
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Him him fucking kicking and punching people on the field.
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Isn't funny to me. The penalty. It's like like ninja
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kick whatever he calls it. And he's like forgetting unnecessary roughness.
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Sindbad who was who is a student is actually a
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professor at the college who has one year eligibility left, uh,
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and then you know they have their kicking was and
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you know the coach, the assistant coach, uh looks and
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recruits a female soccer player, which is Kathy Ireland.
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And the first time or the last time that will
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happen in a football movie.
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depicted on. It was actually the first time in a
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football movie a female was portrayed on.
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these football movies, is bringing a girl to do something
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mostly kicking.
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playing football. A lot of it's contributed seeing Kathy Ireland,
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who at the time was a supermodel, being on screen
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portraying an athletic position as kicker on football, and it
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struck up a lot of female interests in football and
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trying to participate. Uptil I think it was three years ago,
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many females had played collegiate football as kicker. But up
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till three years ago, you've seen the first female play
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as a defensive back for a school. I think it
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was in Kentucky, in the middle of Kentucky, So yeah,
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so you do have females on it not and I'm
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pretty sure I think she lasted a couple of games
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and then she realized that it was a bad decision
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when you're actually gonna.
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if not worse.
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to take liberties. I mean some of the contact sport,
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you're going to take liberties. I think she got a
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bill around a few times and then she kind of
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was like, yeah, I don't want to do this anymore
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because I may end up paralyzed.
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I guess. So I used to be I used to
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work for a professional wrestling company. And I'm not gonna
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tell the whole story nor take up too much time
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with this. But when I realized that in order for
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me to be really successful this, I'm gonna end up
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getting hurt a lot, and I still may not be successful,
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and I think I think I owe myself a better
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life than possibly getting CTA from chairs to the head.
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That's when I quit wrestling, right and as it brings
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shout out, my cousin Sam will be watching this hopefully
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one of the best lines of this and a lot
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of people don't pick up on it, but he picked
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up on it immediately, and it's been a running joke
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for us since we actually seen the movie in theaters.
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And the little count of the logan that we grew
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up in is when Kathy Ireland kicks the forty yard kick,
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you have the guy repeat himself three times he goes
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forty yards and then somebody asking who said they go?
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How long was that? He goes forty yards man, And
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then he repeats it again. He repeats the words it
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was forty yards three times, and he does it in
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such a like Stoner esque thing, and it's like no
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emotion ever, and it's and it's one of those subtlings
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that we found extremely funny. And like I said, it's
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going on. I mean, it came out and what was
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it ninety one if I remember, yes, yeah, So I
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mean you're looking at thirty five years of us laughing
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about that one line that was significant to no one
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but us.
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All right, so let me tell you I saw this
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when it came out when I was a kid. I
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don't think I ever watched the show. I was aware
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of the show because I believe it was on USA
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and it had the hot the hot McNulty's hot wife
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that Jesse and I have fallen over whose name escapes
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me at the moment, and I think John Staymos, now
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that I think about.
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It, Kathy Siegel.
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No, but if you look so anyway to the person
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in the comment who sent that in that you want
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TikTok for that sort of thing. So anyway, oh gosh,
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I can't remember her name now, it doesn't matter. My
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point is this was at a time where this was
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happening a lot, where a movie would come out, it
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would have a modest success, and there would be a
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sitcom about it that would at least last maybe a season,
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like Gung Ho being like the big template for that.
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But someday I'll actually have to make somebody watch Gung Ho. Okay,
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I talk enough on here. I like necessary roughness. I
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want to spend a little bit of my time talking
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about this movie. Singing the praise, singing the praises of Sinbad.
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Sinbad is an underrated actor and a comedian. That guy
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had charisma for days. He actually has genuine acting ability,
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Like the problem is hit him. Bernie Mack. A lot
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of the black comedians they got pigeonholed into certain roles
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based on their stand up, and all they were ever
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asked to do was their stand up. So, like if
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you've ever seen Sinbad's on one of his more every
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comedian has like a famous bit and that's what people
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know them for, from Jim Jefferies to Sinbad to Eddie
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Murphy to you know, to modern comics of the day.
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There's always one bit that everybody that they people are
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known for, and his was someday you're gonna go to
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McDonald's and all there's gonna be on the register's pictures
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of food because kids can't do math. Sinbad the prophet, right,
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he was known for. But Sinbad was also he got
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a lot of sitcom work. He was on I believe
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he was on a Different World, and then he was
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he was on a couple of other things, and he
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kind of just played like hip elder statesman, black guy,
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and that's all. That's all I evene ever asked of him.
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And it's not that different from his character in this one.
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But him and Scott Bacula have a lot of good
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chemistry together. He has some really funny lines. You know
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his he's believable as a football player. The guy is huge,
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Like he's this tall guy. He's a beefy guy. So
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it's absolutely believable that he could play football. When he's
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talking about astronomy and you know, like you see him
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teaching the class, it's believable. You know, it's a really
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good acting job. You believe he knows that stuff. You
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believe he can teach it. Scott Bacula as sort of
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the you know, tough, toughest leather ex quarterback who you
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know missed his chance because of family responsibility. He he
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he absolutely carries the movie. He's really good. Like whatever
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you think about Scott Bacula, whether you knew him from
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Enterprise or gosh, what was the other scife I think
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he was known for. Was it Sliders?
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Yeah, no, I knew it was one of the two.
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Whether you knew him Quantum Leap or Enterprise. Scott Bacula
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is a really good actor, a very good television actor,
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and I think he carries the role well. His The
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scenes with him and the teacher are not great, but
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I think that's more on the the actress playing the teacher.
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She just comes across as like and culture cold. She's
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not a very warm character, and that those scenes to
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me aren't as good as they could be. And and
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every other place where this sort of thing is tried,
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like Kevin James and I think it was Selma Hayak
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had more heat and well and here comes the boom
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than Scott Bacula and this ice Cube does. So in fact,
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he might have had more. He might have had more
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sexual chemistry with ice Cube. The the cast is filled
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out by some funny, memorable guys. What you have to
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have in order for these movies to work. So you
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have Manu the Samoan, the only Samoan not related to
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the Rock and he's fine in this he's you know,
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he he's doing the I'm Samoan thing and everything and
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that's that is my entire character as I'm Samoan. And
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but it works. It's fine that they don't need a
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lot from him. He doesn't need to give a lot,
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and what he gives his adequate. The guy playing the
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guy playing stars who's a martial artist, and when they
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allow him to do funny stuff, it's some of the
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it's some of the best gags in the movie. Outside
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of that everybody else is not memorable to me, like
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I said, to the point that I'm having a hard
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time remembering talking about them the wilt. I will say this,
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the Two Coaches. Robertosa, he has the best monologue in
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the movie at the end when they're in when they're
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in halftime, and it's the it's that this doesn't work speech,
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and it's not only delivered Robert los Is as a
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legend in movies. He's a great actor. He has such
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passion and he has a very memorably grading voice. But
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better than his performance, better than his voice is what
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he says in that scene, like necessary roughness isn't gonna
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win awards for screenwriting, but there is some very there
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is a pretty decent dialogue, and his this doesn't work
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speech I think is the best thing about this movie,
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because he's talking about how they are trying to be
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a team that they're not. He's trying to be a
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coach that he's not. They have their best success when
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they're just themselves and win or lose. You're at your
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best when you're just being who you are instead of
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trying to be something that you're not, which I think
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is a lifelong lesson and a pretty universal lesson. So,
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do you have anything else that you want to say
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about or if you want to piggyback on anything I've said
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about necessary Roughness?
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No, I mean I think you covered everything, and you
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the best part of Necessaria of this is the fact
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that it's it's relatable. I mean, everybody could find somebody
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on this team to relate to, and that that goes
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to something that we may talk about in the future.
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I think we I actually mentioned it for next year
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is when when we talk thre replacements, similar vein of
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the movie, a similar point premise. It has somebody that
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you can relate to. Uh, that's why. That's why I
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think this movie resonates with a lot of sports fans.
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One because it's got some hilarious spots in it. Most notably,
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you know what I made the Justin Herbert reference earlier
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is when the when the backup quarterback gets in the
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game and he takes a snap and he runs behind
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the raft and starts screaming, bore the whistle. Yeah, and
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we get it. And what's great about this movie is too,
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is we get a look at a young Rob Schneider
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who is.
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The Roberts Seanry before we became a big you know,
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before he became a self parody.
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Yeah he was. He's the uh the uh p a
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of the of the fighting Armor Nillos. Also, you see,
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this is one of the bigger on screen movies where
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you see actual football players participating making cameos. You see
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mean John Green, you see herschel Walker.
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Command is he I didn't know, dude, that prison they
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do it too, n So we didn't really get into
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like the premise of the movie. But the villain of
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the movie is the dean of the college and he's
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of course, you know, football colleges for academics, not sports,
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you know, because colleges also are communists, don't run on
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money anyway. So so he's trying to fuck with the
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football team because he doesn't want him there. And they're
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already on sand ice as it is, is this is a
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comeback squad after all of these penalties that they suffered.
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So one of the things he does is, hey, I
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helped you guys get a tune up game in order
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to prepare you for the season. And it's and it's
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a fucking prison team and it's led by Dick Buckets.
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Fucking Avanda Holyfield, and there's a whole bunch of like
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star athletes that walk off that bus.
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I did not know that's that's a good catch. I mean,
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you've got Chris Berman, you got Earl Campbell, Roger Craig,
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Vander Yea, Vander Holyfield, add two, Josh Jones, Jerry Rice,
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Herschel Walker. You have a lot of athletes came out
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and remind me off air, I'll tell you so. I
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little something funny about the Dean, but I think we've
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covered everything unnecessary. So yeah, let's see at the table.
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Really really quick. I didn't want to mention. God, he's
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not even in the cast list of what I wrote. Okay, here,
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mind if catch GPT, couldn't bother be bothered to list
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them in the cast. I'm not gonna be bothered. All right,
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let's get into what the program was next.
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Right, Yes, we're taking a SI at the table first
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Team Defense with Latimer at the program.
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I fucking loved the program. The program was what I
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saw it when it came out. I've watched it. This
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is this higher learning Judgment Night. There's like a handful
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of movies that existed in the early nineties when I
486
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was developing my film Slobbyists that I must have watched
487
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a million times. I don't think the program is anything
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that's quotable the way Higher Learning was like Higher Learning.
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As Jason and I talked about one Black History month ago,
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you know, what are you two doing the plot thing? Like?
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I like, I think I think their entire review is
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just me quoting the movie. The program doesn't have that
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kind of relatability. It's but there were it's visually relatable,
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Like there were things about the program that I that visually.
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I remember Latimer's fucking face makeup Holy Cow where he's
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the Grim Reaper basically, yeah, his the section. All the
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stuff I remember about this movie is about Latimer.
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He's the most notable character in the movie. He's because
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you're supposed.
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To sympathize with Omar Epps and whoever the weathered plays Joe.
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But then you know the kid who's the quarterback you're
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supposed to have sympathy for because he's traumatized and neglected
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and a drunk, and you don't. I forgot Christy Swanson
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was in the fucking movie. I remembered Omar Epps because
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he's token black guy. And then you know, who has
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to get deal with the chip on his shoulder and
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then and but but yeah, you're right. The most memorable
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character in the goddamn thing is Latimer from his size,
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his professional wrestler look, but also because he has the
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00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.440
most most unintentionally funniest fucking scene in the movie when
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he's throwing when he's throwing the girl around the room.
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You know, now, which version did you see? Did you
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see the original? Kind of did you see the editor?
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I saw whatever is available on Amazon Prime, parntal.
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Okay, so you you didn't have the original cut? You well,
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I mean you said you've seen this.
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Worse than the original, because because I remembered it being worse,
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Like she fucking gets.
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00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:19.319
Like, no, no, no, that's that's all real. The only
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difference between the original theater run that was out for
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about two weeks and what you see now is there's
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a scene right at the beginning of the movie when
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they're in the bar, Kane's reading Sports Illustrated. Well, it
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flashed forwards to a little bit later on the night
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and they're laying down in the middle of the highway
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and he's reading the Sports Illustrated issue when he keeps
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saying they tell me that I do well under pressure,
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and like Alvin Mack and Latimer's like sitting there like
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they're like, can we just go we don't want to
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do this more, and like he's just sitting there reading
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sports illustrated on the yellow line in the middle of
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a highway, right.
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I remember, first of all, when I was doing my
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note which started with oh my god, it was Christy
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Swanson and all the movies in the nineties, and the
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answer was yes. But you know, I was talking to
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00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:17.519
chat GBT about the program, and you know, it said, yeah,
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it was more known for the reading in the middle
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of the highway thing than it was then it was
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anything else about that movie. And I'm like, really, because
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that's the last thing I fucking remember. I was reminded
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of it once it said it to me, but that
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was that was. I didn't even remember that part. It
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was not impactful, Jason, So let me ask you, so,
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so the reason.
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Why it was impact because the reason why it was
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cut out is because people there was like kids out there,
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Mimi and getting ran over.
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00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.000
Because yeah, no, no, no, I know it was impactful. The
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rest of the known universe. It wasn't impactful to me.
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Then again, I didn't lay in the middle of the
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road because I saw it in the movie once.
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Because I'm not a dumbass, well you know, not these
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00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.319
kids dumbass kind of his hand and hand let's gen
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xers kinda or our dumb ass.
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If you're like a job, I know you've remuitated something
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00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.839
from the nineties. Yes, I imitated kids. I wiggled my
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penis in my bathing suit.
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Okay, that's more information.
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00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.279
Okay, kids, I should make you watch kids one day.
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00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.359
No, I know I don't want to see I've heard
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it and there's not.
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00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:32.039
The the the eighty yards and kids is just kids.
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00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.960
So uh. And also we're going to talk about Omar Apps,
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00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:40.640
who was the most decorated athlete of the nineties, uh,
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who went on to become a doctor. Mm hmmm, because uh,
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00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.480
not only was he in the program, he was also
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in uh what was it? Was it? It was a
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basketball movie he was in. Uh, and he was a
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00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.519
he was a running back in another football movie.
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But yeah, they didn't If they didn't need young black
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00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.759
guys in sports movies, would have never had a career.
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Yeah, I mean, Omar Epps was great. And then he
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went on, you know, since he had three four right scholarships,
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being the you know, the absolute prime of Fake Peaks
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physical specimen that he went on and worked for doctor
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House and uh on House. Uh so, omar apps the
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I'm trying to see here. I know he was on.
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I know he was in this. I know he was.
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I want to say it was maybe loving basket loving basketball,
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Yeah he was, and he was on. He was also
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in high and don't be a menace. Uh and he was.
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We basically did on Warps episode last year and I
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didn't I didn't allow it because he was in and
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he also played in Major League two.
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Uh yeah, yeah, that's right. He takes over for Willie
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Mays as So, all right, I'm gonna talk a little
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bit about the movie and then you can kind of
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00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:17.960
chime in. I love the program. I think the program
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00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:22.039
is a lot of fun to watch. It. It is
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a cautionary tale about the pressures of college football, told
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a sort of an with the tenor of an after
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school special that you know, the only difference is that
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it's got better acting in it, better better actors. I
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should say. It's a little bit more intense than something
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you would legit legitimately see an after school special, so
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it does rise to the level of major motion picture,
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but it's very much like Here's here's a quarterback cracking
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under pressure who comes from an abusive household, whose father
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doesn't love him and is a drunk and we're gonna
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watch him fucking unravel and do reckless stuff. Here there's
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here's Omar Epps. He comes from the Sticks and he
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you know, and he's black and he has to deal
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with and because every one of these movies has to
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deal with systemic racism of some kind and injured and
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inter black fucking self hatred because again he has to
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deal with classism, you know. He So Halle Barry is
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in this knowing because people should know. Halle Barry wasn't
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always an Oscar worthy actress. She did some shite, and
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00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.119
so Halle Barry's in this and she plays the black
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version of Christy Swanson and she's the she's the black
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female lead essentially because she's a scholar and she's dating
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like a well to do uh athlete, black athlete. And
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his whole thing is like, I'm not gonna I'm not
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gonna let some fucking, you know, dumb ass kid, you know,
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walk in, Take I take my position on the field,
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Take my woman, I'm better than you. He's he's basically
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black MJF. And you know, and it works, you know it.
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It's one of those movies where it's fun to kind
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of see them deal with the fact that, like because
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sometimes the way, especially on film, especially back then, black
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00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.440
people were sort of presented as sort of a monolith
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where it's just like, you know, they and they, you know,
624
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it's it's black people, and then a bunch of different
625
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kinds of white people. Nope, different kinds of black people too,
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And there was as much classism in the black community
627
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as there was in the white And it gets in
628
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.679
like Halle Barry's dad is just like, why are you
629
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dating some ordinary athlete when you have a guy who
630
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.199
wants to be a doctor who wants to bang you?
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What's wrong with you? Dumb? You know, dumb girl. That
632
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.519
may that may have been different in the movie, but
633
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that's how I heard it. Terms Yeah, So I would
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say the thing to talk about and really just kick
635
00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.599
back and forth for just a little bit is the
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latter stuff, because Latimer is the Latimer and Featherstone or
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00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:09.360
the yeah, Featherstone are the two biggest Mac Yeah, yeah, Mac. Sorry,
638
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.119
I was like, I think I have that character name wrong,
639
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but the same guy. They have the two biggest cautionary
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tales because in one instance, you have a guy who
641
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.519
everything is football and he literally comes from like a
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00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.679
floorless house in Arkansas or some shit, and if this
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00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.880
doesn't work out, he has nothing, so so football becomes
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his life, and then he gets so critically injured his
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00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.559
life is over. That is Latimer who wants so badly
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to be a part of this football team that he's
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willing to do anything, including you know, abuse steroids, and
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00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.000
it nearly gets him, frankly, had he not been a
649
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.239
protected college athlete, either go into prison for the felony
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he committed.
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Yeah, and that's touched on at a different aspect to
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the prediction. But yeah, I mean with with Alvin Mac,
653
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.920
you see it it's not the injury he breaks his legs,
654
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but they treated like he's like he got diagnosed with
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bone cancer. And but yeah, I mean.
656
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Judge.
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Yeah, you see at the at the beginning of the movie,
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you have where he gives it's Christmas. It starts off
659
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for Christmas because they just missed the Bowl postseason, they
660
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didn't become beeligible, so everybody's home for Christmas. And you know, Max,
661
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an incredible athlete who who is gumb as a box
662
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.719
of rocks when it comes to school. But his football
663
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.559
IQ is off the charts. I mean, uh, you know,
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uh kill everyone hit the quarterbacks so hard, his girlfriend,
665
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.360
his girlfriend dies, stuff like that. But but he's dumb
666
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as a box of rocks. He can't read, he's ill waiter,
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00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.960
and you know it shows the perils of that in
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00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.840
the college. But he gives his mom a a like
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brass door knocker with the name on it, and he says,
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once I once I'm draft the next year, I'll buy
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00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.119
you the house to go with it. And you know,
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it's basically, you know, the cautionary tale of the black
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man getting out of getting out of poverty and becoming
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a star athlete. And all that's taken away with I
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think two games left. Then you had Vladimir who uh
676
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for the four years he was part of the football
677
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he was on punt returns uh and kick returns, and
678
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.559
then all of a sudden he puts on thirty five
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00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.599
pounds of muscle over once coming.
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Suspicious right, and Eddie goes.
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It's like the coaches all know, and they go, well,
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you kind of walked up. He's like, yeah, I hit
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the weight room pretty hard. It's like, yeah, yeah, we
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don't think that, we don't think that.
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And then you have to make the weight gamma irradiated.
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Yeah, I mean, you know you. I wish it would
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have showed him prior to the thing and then showed
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the transform.
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In America Steve Rodgers, Yeah, fucking Schwarzenegger from the from
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the critic, no one but know yeah.
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But then you see him, Like I said, one and
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one of this movie has one of them. I forgot
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about the scene, but it has one of the most
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disgusting scenes in in On you know somebody getting puked
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on is when Mac's the first game of the season
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of Mac and Lattimore walk up each other and spit
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in each other's mouth. I think that's absolutely discuss whatever. No,
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I mean, well you go, I'm saying in that.
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Error, okay, fine, in that air now, I know we have.
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You have Mark. We we won't talk about that. This
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is football show, not I'm not sure Vanilla the Vanilla
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Test show. No, I mean, I mean, it's you know,
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I'm not going to King shame or anything. But I mean,
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at the time, that is, that was kind of disgusting.
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I mean, I you know, to each their own, but
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two girl men spitting in each other's mouth, it's not.
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I would like to remind you of the internet game
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we all played called two Girls, One Cup.
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I never played that game. I swear on my mother's
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great I can firmly stand behind that one. Okay, Now
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Blue Waffle can't can't stay.
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Behind that tomato tomato.
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Well, I know, I'll just say it, two Girls, one cup,
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no Blue Waffle. Unfortunate, But the early days of the
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Internet was lawless.
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The wild West.
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Yeah, but you know, and you got you got Joe Caine,
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who is a fucking basket case, serious fucking issue. He
719
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:53.199
looks like a vampire.
720
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.079
For there's no mom in the picture. Dad's drunk and
721
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.360
well it doesn't support his football playing and all. And
722
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.079
the story with a lot of these guys is if
723
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.480
it wasn't for football, they'd have nothing at all. And
724
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:06.960
it just repeat, repeat, repeat. It's one of the downfalls
725
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.960
essentially of the program. But I think, you know, it's
726
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:13.239
I think it's a it's an industry wide problem that
727
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.800
is condensed for dramatic purposes. They have to. You know,
728
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:19.840
if you take it, if you look at the NC
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00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.360
double A, look at every look at every just football
730
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.199
to US football, and see how many of these people
731
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.440
have anything to go back to. Probably better than you know,
732
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:33.880
more than fifty percent don't. So. But the NC double
733
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A is also ridiculously huge. Ask me why I know that,
734
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.519
because I'm been paying attention to the sports betting lately,
735
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and there's like a zillion games a day of any
736
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of either NC double A men's basketball or when it
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00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.440
was on NC DOUBLEA foot men's football, it's not this
738
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women's football. But my point is you, if you take that,
739
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maybe there were what fifty guys on a football squad.
740
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Yeah, you usually get well, I mean, if you went
741
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by NFL roster, there's fifty three people on the NFL roster.
742
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.800
I say, you have the equivalent to not counting the
743
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.360
right skirts and everything, you probably have about fifty to
744
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:11.159
fifty three people.
745
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And between the first and between divisions one through three,
746
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.039
how many football teams A zillion?
747
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.960
Oh god, uh, that's actually a good question. I've never
748
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thought of it. Well over three hundred.
749
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.280
So fifty times three hundred Yeah, a good percentage of
750
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.440
those people are going to be poor and without much
751
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.599
of a you know, much future thing to look forward
752
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.480
to if they don't play pro ball, you know. And
753
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.559
we talked about this with I can't remember what movie
754
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.000
it was, but it was the year that we did
755
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:43.719
the two that had just been in theaters and then
756
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.320
we are Marshall. One was about the the Middle.
757
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.719
Yeah, you're talking about the Kurt Warner story and Underdog
758
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.639
the Kurt Warner story, right, And I can't remember the other.
759
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:59.320
Movie that one was about was about them sitting the
760
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:01.880
one guy sitting out of a bowl game unless they
761
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.880
agreed to renegotiate with the NC Double A and start.
762
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.360
Paying athletes national champions right and.
763
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.440
The you know the car We had that conversation back
764
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.960
then and we'll probably continue to have in the future
765
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.920
as long as we do these that for a lot
766
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.639
of these guys, they're one shot at being able to
767
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.760
make a decent living is the NFL, and there's only
768
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.599
and the NFL is finite, the X amount of teams,
769
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.239
this X amount of positions and you are competing with
770
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.480
a zillion other people.
771
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.360
Well that I'm glad you brought that up. It brings
772
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.559
up a very interesting thing now with the current in
773
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:47.159
on the algals, if you're going in a round two
774
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.280
or later, you you should never leave college early. And
775
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.360
it Brusson brings up the the whole transfer portal that's
776
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:01.239
in place, because not long ago you have you could
777
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.360
if you transferred, you had to set out a year,
778
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.719
and now you're getting paid to play. And you've got
779
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.880
the kid that left Tennessee that demanded like five million
780
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.079
a year and nobody wanted to Eve ended up going
781
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.679
to use LA and failed. And it proves that the
782
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.480
transfer portal, I mean, just in the twenty twenty five
783
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.679
Moost season, Marshall lost their head coach, Charlie Huff to
784
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:34.599
a Inner Inner Division arrival and they didn't have enough.
785
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.840
They had so many people into the transfer portal they
786
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.639
didn't have a team to field to play the bowl
787
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:43.679
game they had to. And that happened.
788
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.320
Looking at on TikTok around the time that it was happening,
789
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.360
not just that specific incident, but just that there was
790
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:54.719
every people were doing internet TikTok commentary on the problem
791
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:55.920
with with the portal.
792
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.960
Yeah, the portal has ruined college football and college basketball
793
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:03.840
as well. I mean you're making. That's like I seen
794
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.519
a kid the other day. It was on TikTok. He
795
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.599
said he's a high school he's a high school feen
796
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.039
on and everything, and they're like, well, where are you
797
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.480
going to college? And he's flat out saint whoever pays
798
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:16.719
me the most money? He said, I don't care about
799
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.239
my education, he said. I said, I'm looking to get paid, right,
800
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.159
And I was like, well, if you entered the draft,
801
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.679
He's like, why would I enter the draft when I
802
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.280
can go when I can go to college for free
803
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.159
and get paid what I would make in the NBA draft.
804
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.000
Yeah. Look, I get the kid's point. And we're talking
805
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.480
about and we're talking about the early nineties here. This
806
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.800
is long before anyone gets paid to go to college.
807
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:42.679
So for a lot of these kids, it is literally
808
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.039
the NBA or the NFL or bust. It isn't that
809
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.760
way now. Now you can make an argument for you've
810
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.039
got a decent chance of making fucking for fox sake, Jason,
811
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.360
some of these guys can come can come out of college,
812
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.960
start a podcast and get a couple, you know, look
813
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.400
at just I don't want to get too far off
814
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.679
the path here, but look at Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark.
815
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.559
These people had deals in place as they were leaving
816
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:14.719
college and they got and their endorsement deals between college
817
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:17.199
and the w n b A were more than what
818
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.559
they got paid in the w n b A. That's
819
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.440
me why I know that, because that's all Angel rees
820
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:21.920
talked about.
821
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.199
Yeah, and who Aye would not have the star power
822
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.280
that she has without Kitlyn Clark and Kaitlyn Clark.
823
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.559
Is I don't think Angel Reese is like, you know,
824
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.840
God's touch child or anything, but be fair, the woman
825
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.039
managed to get brand deals all on her own, regardless
826
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:42.159
of case of Cayton Clark.
827
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.639
Well, it's because of anotheriety from one game against Kaitlyn Clark.
828
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.159
Adrea Race wasn't even the best player on her team.
829
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:56.119
She she got a viral moment against Kaitlyn Clark, who
830
00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:06.639
is the greatest female basketball player currently, and we see that,
831
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.440
we see all the hate she gets because I mean,
832
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:12.639
we won't go into that, but she gets a lot
833
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.079
of hate for SPA.
834
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.639
Talk about racism in sports. Let's talk about the program
835
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.280
some more. I very much enjoyed this movie. It's very
836
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.920
much a product of its time. Your final thoughts, I
837
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.039
think that I think The program is a fun that
838
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:30.800
it's really fun that we're doing this podcast and we're
839
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.039
both keep checking like the other sports and our bets.
840
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:33.559
Yeah.
841
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.280
Yeah, most distracted you and I have ever been.
842
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.239
But I think The Program is a very underrated movie.
843
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.519
I think if you're a sports fan, especially a football fan,
844
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.880
you definitely need to add it to your watch list.
845
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.480
I don't just go watch it. And it's basically loosely
846
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.719
mimicking some of the s m U stuff, but it's
847
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.679
pretty much made it look like the Florida State with
848
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.920
the colors and everything in their game schedule. But yeah,
849
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.679
I mean the Program is one of those cautionary tales
850
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:14.199
that you see in sports and you want you want
851
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.920
to see the success. And like we talked previously, there's
852
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:25.159
really no likable characters on in the program. There's people
853
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.599
that are like horrible but you can't help but like.
854
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.079
Them gets a shit together by the end of the movie.
855
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:36.920
Yeah, but he's insufferable the first ninety percent of the movie.
856
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:42.079
He's insufferable because he's this hype. He's a highly recruited
857
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:47.559
player who projects that you know, just like many players
858
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:49.679
that come in thinking that the world's gonna be and
859
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.000
then they get to the school and they're not the
860
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.480
hot shit they thought they were where they was getting recruited.
861
00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.599
Yeah, all right, let's talk about Varsity Blues. Yes, Varsity
862
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.079
Blues at least once probably when it came out, and
863
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.280
then never again in my life because when they ate
864
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.480
when I set so, I watched Necessary Roughness in the
865
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.679
program by myself on my iPad. Varsity Blues. I made
866
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.239
sure to watch with my kids, and it was so
867
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.920
funny because I because I told them I were only
868
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.519
gonna get We're only gonna get to watch one of these,
869
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.719
and I let Jonas pick, but I said, check the
870
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:25.280
parents Jonas, check the parents guide. Make sure there's nothing.
871
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:27.519
Pick the one. There's that many issues that we're gonna
872
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:28.840
have to deal with because I don't want to put
873
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.039
up a shit from you and your sister. When he
874
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.440
was like, right, honestly, I just should have show have
875
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:38.519
Necessary Roughness, but but he saw it. He swoed up
876
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.840
and down. He looked at the parents guy for Varsity Blues.
877
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.800
And I know that there was a movie around this
878
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.119
time with the girl doing the whip cream bit, because
879
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.599
Chris Evans will do it in not another teen movie.
880
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.880
Making fun of it, but I couldn't remember if it
881
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.800
was this or another movie that somebody does that in
882
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:57.760
like me, I thought it like, I didn't remember it
883
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.519
was Varsity Blues. I thought maybe it was Ten Things
884
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.840
I Hate About You or any or any one of
885
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.280
the movies that that not another teen movie was making
886
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.599
fun of at the time. So I nodded off at
887
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.360
one point in the movie and I woke up and
888
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.719
both of my kids were like, we didn't know about
889
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.079
the whip cream and I'm like, oh, boy, damn it.
890
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:23.679
So there's that I, like, I said, I know I
891
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.480
saw this when it came out, because there's some of
892
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.440
some of it I vaguely remember. I had in order
893
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.679
for me to remember it. I vaguely remember the Fat Kid,
894
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.920
I vaguely and I and I definitely yeah. And when
895
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.760
I saw the scene, I did, in fact remember because
896
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.440
it was the only impactful thing about this movie to
897
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.079
me was why did he drop the pike off? He's like, well,
898
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.480
you'll know how to take care of it, and I
899
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.400
was like, oh, that's a suicide allusion. And then there's
900
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.000
the scene where Billy Bob's like, the fuck I've dedicated
901
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:53.480
my life to football and all whatever it does is
902
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.079
hurt me and he's shooting his trophies. So yeah, well
903
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.679
that that I remembered. So I have seen this before,
904
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.119
but it's been decades.
905
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.480
Yeah, Varsity Blues. Varsity Blues is a special place.
906
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:06.440
Tell me about your special place.
907
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.920
Jason One is my nickname of work and the way
908
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.159
I got my job, and my boss loves to tell
909
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:17.599
this is back way back in the days of young Jason,
910
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.599
back when I was at Glennville State College. I was
911
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.119
a bit of an alcoholic. Marks presently you're getting your.
912
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:24.760
Own song about that.
913
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.280
You and Pat you know that, No, I did not.
914
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:31.559
Yeah, that's why. That's why you seasoned ones on an
915
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.480
episode of Sessions, because I'm turning into a drunken bar song.
916
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.960
Okay, excellent this year.
917
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:38.599
Too much blues.
918
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.000
But uh, way back in the day I was, I was,
919
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:44.400
I was a bit of an alcoholic.
920
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:45.960
Uh, and.
921
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.440
I I might have got drunk and one of the
922
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.199
guys that lived on our floor had a pair of
923
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.920
cowboy boosts that were about my size and the cowboy
924
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.679
hat and I'm my got ineviated and went walking down
925
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.280
the hall with nothing but the his cowboy boo. It's
926
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:08.079
a cowboy head on the football bat, saying, singing, she
927
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:09.760
broke my heart, so I broke her jowl.
928
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:13.599
Why you guys pick on me from my naked exploits
929
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.599
when you've all, except for Robert Brady Jesse, have naked
930
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:17.519
exploits of your own.
931
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.440
Oh, I've never picked on you. I just don't do.
932
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.360
I do it in college, not in my adult years.
933
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.280
I blame like frontal low development.
934
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.119
Whatever, pants or tool of the patriarchy, down with pants.
935
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.079
I mean, as long as you know me, as long
936
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:37.280
as I've known you, you've been down with pants. But yeah,
937
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.199
I mean, and that's how I got Actually, I told
938
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:41.800
that story in my job interview, and that's how I
939
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:47.159
landed my job. Now. Nice, But uh, Varsity Blues is
940
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:53.679
one of the that and Friday Night Lights probably the
941
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.360
two closest realistic football movies.
942
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.719
I mean, you have the I think I saw Friday
943
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.360
Night Lights when that came out, too, but I definitely
944
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:02.239
did not watch the show.
945
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.000
Uh. Well, I've got a story about Friday Night Light,
946
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.480
the movie Friday Night Lights about I actually knew movie Niles.
947
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:13.719
I got to know him via Facebook. Actually, but Buck
948
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:18.639
Kilmer is this completely asshole coach that winning is everything
949
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:23.400
you have you have Lance Harber, uh, who is Paul Walker,
950
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:28.800
who is the best quarterback in the state, the starting quarterback,
951
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:33.440
you know, the dreaming, the dreaming, stun, nothing that everybody wants.
952
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.559
But and then you have Ali Lowder, who is extremely
953
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.519
hot in this movie, and she's the head cheerleader who's
954
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:44.000
dating Paul Walker. And you know, once he gets hurt
955
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.079
and his season's over, she kind of moves on to
956
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.960
John Moxon, who is the backup quarterback who has every
957
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bit of athletic ability. He's just a gig because Buck
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00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:58.679
Kilmer is addict to him, so he gets it right back,
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00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:02.119
and he's to Brown. He's just trying to he's just
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00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:02.760
trying to go.
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00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:04.599
He's just trying to get out of high school and
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00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.079
go to his ivy League school like like we right, And.
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00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.760
He's using football because I mean, uh, he's an intelligent kid.
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00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:12.840
He's dating Lance's sisters.
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00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:14.920
You got to remember it. Football is a cultural thing
966
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.400
in Texas. Yeah, he's doing the cultural norm.
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00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.440
Yeah. And and you know, football in Texas is a
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00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.840
whole different spill. I mean it's a different monster itself.
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00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:31.239
I've seen football stadiums in Texas that rival NFL stadiums
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00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.119
of today. Uh, there's one that just opened. It's a
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00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.559
sixty five million dollars stadium for a Texas high school.
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00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.880
And I think that's ridiculous and that's insane. But you
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00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.360
go through and some of the best lines from this
974
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:48.760
movie come from the little brother. When his dad asked him,
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00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.760
have you started a call? He says, yes, these are my.
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00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:58.440
People, And you know, him awkwardly maneuvering the cross in
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00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.840
the breakfast table had me in stitches.
978
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:06.239
Yeah, And then you have you have you Billy Bob,
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00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:10.679
who is he is the he is the heart of
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00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.000
Gold that.
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00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.119
Is drinking syrup in the car.
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00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:15.480
Yeah.
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00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.800
People, people don't have to understand the finer details of
984
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.880
Varsity Blues. When we meet him, I can't remember what
985
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:22.719
he's eating, but he's drinking zyrup.
986
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.599
He's eating like a stack of pan If I'm not mistaken,
987
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.800
it's like a stack of pancakes, and it's washing it
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00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:33.039
now with syrup. And you know, then he's got he's
989
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:34.280
got a pick named Bacon.
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00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:35.800
I could see the diabetes.
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00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.719
And then you've got Charlie Tweeter, who is a basket
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00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.719
case of things. And it comes up and one of
993
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.719
the great lines of bobbing Tweeter is where they're talking
994
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:51.079
about about him. After he seals the cop car. He says,
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00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.599
he flashed the ladies down at the Rotary Club.
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00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.639
The glass keep going right back.
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00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.719
Okay, but you know you have you have Billy Bob,
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00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.760
who is this lovable overweight kid who can't seem to
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00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.880
do nothing night. He has self esteem issues and everything,
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00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.840
and it leads to him and alluding to what Mark
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00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.960
was saying earlier about the whole suicide thing. Billy Bob
1002
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:25.079
is goes to he gets a concussion, and his concussion
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00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.519
due to Bud Kilmer uh leads Billy Bob from passing
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00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:36.239
out and letting Leance Harbor get blindsided and destroyed, ending
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00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:40.199
and tearing his a cl uh. And we find out
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00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.920
that he's had a CEO issues long up to this,
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00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:48.199
but Bud Kilmer has been given him corter zone in
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00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.679
Jackson's so he could play, therefore not caring about the
1009
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.599
well being every story quarterback. He was just caring about
1010
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:58.079
the wins. So Billy Bob goes on, he gets hurt
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00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:03.639
and he's taking it. He it's it's a mental excuse me,
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00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:08.400
a meddal blow to his ego because he is the
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00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.079
a aforementioned anchor of the of the team. He's the
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00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.920
he's a moral compass, he's he's insanely likable, and Bud
1015
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:22.880
Kilmer is just giving him hell about costing Lance. This
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00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:28.119
the team Lance harbor, and it leads to him getting
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00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:32.599
kicked off the team, and therefore, without football, Billy Bob
1018
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.880
has no purpose in life. Also, one of my favorite
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00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.840
lines of tweeter when I when I. I actually still
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00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.519
use this occasionally because you know, mark me and you'd
1021
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.079
like to talk. The movie quotes already all randomly look
1022
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.559
at somebody and go, you know, a couple of viakinging
1023
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.000
a vacanting couple of beers, and the panties drop, and
1024
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.599
it's nice. And and if anybody has ever watched a movie,
1025
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:57.880
they look at me and go tweeting you think you're light?
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00:58:59.159 --> 00:58:59.880
It's nice.
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00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.239
Can I tell you how my kids take away from
1028
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:07.880
this entire movie was essentially, don't strip at the don't
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00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.559
strip at the near the don't strip at the strip
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00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:13.119
club near the school you teach at.
1031
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:17.239
It's not that hard, right, And the half of the
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00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.679
teacher moment is funny, and the whole, the whole male fallacies,
1033
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:27.679
uh is quite funny. I mean, this movie has a
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00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:28.559
lot of heart to it.
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00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.360
Let me let me tell you, let me tell you
1036
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.480
for me, this movie is about, is all John Voight.
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00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:40.360
John Voyd is the devil and and the thing of
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00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.400
it is is that, well, it's easy for me to
1039
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.360
say that if John Voyd's character we're here right now,
1040
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.400
he would say what was I expected to do? Football
1041
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:52.639
is a religion in Texas. When you know, there's killing
1042
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.360
babies and then there's losing a football game, and I'm
1043
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.280
not sure which is worse. So when you're when when
1044
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.719
you've set up a cultural meat grinder that the way
1045
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.400
they have in Texas football, then everything gets sacrificed to
1046
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.400
it and that just becomes the norm. And I'll tell
1047
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:14.519
you there's no excuse for what he does to James
1048
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.239
Vanderbeek in the locker room, because everything up to that
1049
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.199
point I can justify with what I just said. I
1050
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:24.400
cannot justify him putting nearly beaten the shit and choking
1051
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.920
a student. As much as I'd like to, you just can't.
1052
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:31.039
You Look, you just can't choke a student. You can't.
1053
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.800
And and and it's good that they use that moment
1054
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.360
to be you know, the deciding factor in the movie
1055
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:41.880
to where John Voyd's like, Okay, well I hope you'll
1056
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:45.679
forgive me for nearly killing a kid, so follow me
1057
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.400
to the field, and they won't go. And then you know,
1058
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.559
he's like, all right, I've clearly I've gone too far.
1059
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.400
I've gone over the bend, and it's it's time to uh,
1060
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.679
it's time to make a change. And then after and
1061
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.079
then with as if they knew that, you know, James
1062
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.519
Vanderbeek's like, well, we waited in here like assholes for
1063
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:05.360
long enough. Let's go out and do things our way
1064
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.079
and we'll win the game and it will be fine,
1065
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.199
because this is Hollywood, which I'm okay with as sarcastic
1066
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.199
as I'm being, like that part of Our City Blues
1067
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.199
lines up with any other sports movie like this, where
1068
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:19.960
you know it could going right back to necessary roughness.
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01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.280
Be yourselves and everything will be all right. We got lose,
1070
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.960
you know. Maintain your integrity. That's the important thing. So
1071
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.800
a couple of notes that I have, it's a little
1072
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:35.239
too long. This movie drags in places I wish they would.
1073
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.880
I think ninety minutes would have been fine. This I
1074
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.679
think is this I think might be around the two
1075
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:48.199
hour mark, and you get the point fairly early on,
1076
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:52.880
and they never make another point, and that like building
1077
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:59.679
up to Billy Bob alluding to skill it himself, Like
1078
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.599
that's like, that's the big turnaround point in the movie.
1079
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:06.280
The strip's club scene is way too long. Like I
1080
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.320
think Varsity Blues is an okay movie, but it needed
1081
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:13.440
another pass through editing because as it stands right now,
1082
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:17.119
the way it is, it's too long. A lot of
1083
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:21.840
scenes overstay their welcome. It keeps making the same points
1084
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.000
over and over and over again, kind of like our podcast.
1085
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:29.320
And I'm not and I'm not entirely certain any of
1086
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.920
this was needed. It felt. Varsity Blues feels like a
1087
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:37.119
great project that got it self indulgent way too quickly.
1088
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:39.559
I have anything else to say about it. It is
1089
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.840
what it is. I think it's a cultural touchstone. But
1090
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.519
and I'm glad that we talked about it. But outside
1091
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.519
of that, like, did James Vanderbeek do anything in film
1092
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.719
besides Varsity Blue? Because I feel like he's done for
1093
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:52.559
Dawson's Creek in this and that's all.
1094
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:55.360
Yeah, I mean pretty much, that's it. I mean, if
1095
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:57.519
you look at this filmography, I mean, there's probably some
1096
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.480
things out there, but nothing on the level of Dalson's
1097
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:02.000
Creeks in this.
1098
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:05.559
Kick a swing up wondering like why James Vanderbeek wasn't
1099
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:06.280
a bigger movie star.
1100
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.119
I'm gonna say because he got pigeonholed in Dawson's Creek,
1101
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:17.039
the crying meme that we basically see now. I mean,
1102
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.960
that's and the fact that he never I really didn't
1103
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.519
think he took acting very seriously and he didn't really
1104
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:27.159
pursue acting much here.
1105
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:32.679
Let's that's fancy, all right. I didn't let me down?
1106
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:36.480
Why didn't James vander Vanderbeek?
1107
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:42.320
But uh, just just another thing here, I mean, you
1108
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:47.159
have you have football in Texas is a is a lie.
1109
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.800
There's a line in this movie where they play an
1110
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.599
away game and the announcer said, you know, football in
1111
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:58.119
Texas is uh the last person out shuts the lights off,
1112
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.199
and that is really how tech football is. I mean,
1113
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.960
you have communities that shut down at five o'clock on
1114
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:08.760
a Friday night because of their high school football team.
1115
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.119
Okay, short answer timing typecasting in a mispatch between his
1116
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.920
strength and with the film and what film was rewarding
1117
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:23.599
in two thousands, longer clean breakdown. James Vanderbeek became famous
1118
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:25.679
at the exact wrong moment to convert TV start him
1119
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.920
into durable film stardom. He was too identified with one roll.
1120
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.440
Dawson's Creek made him a household name, but it also
1121
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.719
locked him into ernest for both emostly articulate, non threatening
1122
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.320
male lead energy that worked on TV in the early
1123
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.760
two thousands. In cinema, it didn't. Film at that time
1124
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.599
was pivoting toward irony, edge, physicality and anti heroes. Vanderbeek's
1125
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:49.239
core skill sets read a sincere when the culture wanted detached,
1126
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.159
he lacked a clean lane in movies. His film choices
1127
01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:56.639
couldn't reset his image. He was in Rules of Attraction
1128
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.800
Texas Rangers. Yeah, I don't fucking remember any of this. So, yeah,
1129
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.760
just just one of those where he didn't hit the zeitgeist, right.
1130
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.039
Right, Yeah, I mean, and like I said, I mean,
1131
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.360
like I said, it was the meme he got patron
1132
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.519
holed in that Dawson Creek role. But yeah, I mean,
1133
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:21.400
there's Texas high school football is life. But I was gonna,
1134
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.119
I was. There's something else I can't remember. It must
1135
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:29.039
not have been too important. But uh, I mean these three,
1136
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:33.960
all three films are are great football movies.
1137
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:34.320
Uh.
1138
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.719
They get you hyped up for this coming Sunday, especially
1139
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:39.760
if you watch the program. I mean you don't even
1140
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:41.880
have to watch the entire pur and just watch the
1141
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.000
he that's the table scene and you'll be you'll be happy.
1142
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.920
They you know. So, my son point showed me something
1143
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.840
on TikTok called edits where it's it's a lot of
1144
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:58.159
banging and clinging edited see edited bits of bits of
1145
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:01.880
bits of things, so like about of punching and kicking
1146
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:04.280
editing together and it sounds like we will rock you.
1147
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.480
So ione just do an edit of Latimer stuff.
1148
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.679
That that's probably out there. I mean, I've seen the
1149
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:16.440
editor of the eight mile Wrap Lose Yourself, Lose Yourself.
1150
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.480
I've seen the editor. It's like one hundred and fifty
1151
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:21.960
movies singing Lose Yourself, my M and M and that's
1152
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:22.519
pretty funny.
1153
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.840
Yeah, all right. That is our super Bowl show, as
1154
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.960
picked by Jason. I think next year we decided we're
1155
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.480
gonna do two things, not both for the super Bowl.
1156
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.440
One for the super Bowl is but we say no.
1157
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.719
It was the kids ones, right, underdogs Giants, And what
1158
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:38.400
was the third one?
1159
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.440
A good question. I can't remember it. It was Undergog
1160
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:49.920
Little Giants and hold on, I'll tail you.
1161
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:54.960
Oh we are, we are, we are the Titanic or something.
1162
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.159
Oh yeah, remember the Titans.
1163
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:57.960
That's the one.
1164
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:00.639
Yeah, Tatanic Titans. The difference.
1165
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:08.159
Sure, everyone sinks that's right anyway. So so that's we're
1166
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.280
gonna do next year for the Super Bowl, Little Giants,
1167
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.400
And we were still doing this Little Giants Underdogs with
1168
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.320
Snoop Dogg and because I can't because I really want
1169
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:18.800
to watch the movies since I've seen every scene of
1170
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:24.400
it on TikTok remember the Titans. This kicks off are
1171
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:29.559
We really started Black History Month with Bamboozled, but I
1172
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.360
didn't want to push the Super Bowl show off further
1173
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:34.880
than we were had to of. So the next Black
1174
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.599
History Month show we're doing is Break In and Break
1175
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:43.280
into Electric Bugaloo. And then we've got uh the Book
1176
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:47.920
of Clarence, these American Society American magical Negroes, and they
1177
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:52.880
cloned Tyrone. That is our nobody supports Black Film's triple feature.
1178
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.519
And finally we're ending Black History Months with a look
1179
01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.360
at Denzel Washington what an amazing catalog of movies he's made.
1180
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.840
We're gonna focus on three of his best Glory Mo
1181
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.639
Better Blues and John Q. And if you're wondering why,
1182
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:08.559
why aren't you doing training Day? He got an oscar
1183
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:10.960
for training day because I've already done Training Day and
1184
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.400
I've already talked about how his acting was essentially him
1185
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.039
smacking his dick into the scenery.
1186
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:21.000
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the.
1187
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:24.760
King Kong Monday. This past Monday, myself and Jesse talked
1188
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:28.880
to see him punk Colin Bun run on Dras and
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then we looked at Dract's Earthfall. Monday, myself, Jason, and
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Robert got into a screaming fight over send help. Alexis
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and Sean appear to still be alive. I guess after
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they after they did Percy Uh Percy Jackson season two.
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I keep making the joke. You just just smile and nod, baby,
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think back and think of England when I tell you this,
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or just look at your batch and ignore me. I
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keep thinking, Yeah, she Jason quit and she hired Sean,
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so she were lyting to lose anything of the same guy.
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But yeah, I'll accept it.
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And finally, this Sunday is a super Bowl, so there'll
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be no show. However, my Valentine's Day album, Sarah No
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Debechemel from Fradyavlo will be out on the eighth, So Jason,
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I'm gonna need you to go to Spotify on the
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eighth and download uh Fradyavlo Siah no de Bechemel and
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play those songs. Play those songs for Pooky. Pooky needs
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01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.359
to hear these songs, so let so that she's reminded
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how much you'd love and adore her, because that's all.
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That's what Sarah no Bechamelo is about. It's about love
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and adoration.
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Yeah, I'm sure it is. Mark. I don't trust any
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music you reckon me in, but I would like to
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do There's one show, one music show, Metal Hammer Doom
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I would love to do with you. I would love
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to do a Still Panther Shore with you.
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We've done quite a few of those, as a matter
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of fact, I know.
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And because Still Panther holds it's it's it's time.
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To let I'll tell you what if you if you
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give Syrah no bechamel a fair listen and show it
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to Pooky, I promise she's not gonna say to you,
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what the hell is wrong with Mark? I'm I'm trying
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to tell you that these are sincere love songs. These
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are covers. As a matter of fact, I covered Frodiavlo
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covered Maureen McGovern's can You Read My Mind? You know
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where can You Read My Mind's from? No, it's the
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flying scene in super Well, I doesn't no one know this.
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It's the flying scene in Superman where Lois is like
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where she he like takes her around Metropolis and she's like,
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can you read my mind? You know what I'm thinking?
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It's that song that was sung by Maureen McGovern. Okay, anyway,
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is there's that There's Don't Know Much by Linda Ronstadt
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as due edited with Aaron Neville. That is a great
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song and it's sung done so well by Frodiavlo.
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Uh.
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And then and then this is how Am I Supposed
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to Live Without You? By Laura Bronigan.
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Okay.
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And then finally, finally, finally, because Bailey Krispile, Chris Bailey,
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our finale song is I'm sorry not our finalcing because
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it's five songs. The next one I did and I
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turned it into her like a Christian rock song is
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01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:16.680
You Light Up My Life by Debbie Boone, Okay, and
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01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:18.960
then we finale with the Way We Were, The Way
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we Were Jason by Baba Baba streisand oh God, Giant
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01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:26.520
Baba streisand.
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I got I got a I got a weird feeling
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01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:34.960
left his if you, if you send me, if you
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send me what I need to look out spotify a
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hearty attempt.
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Okay, I will trust me. Listen. I was, and then
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everyone was promptly ignoring me. It made me say it
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01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:47.680
and angry. You guys, wonder why I'm in the mood
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01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:49.640
him in these days. I've been telling you I was
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01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:51.960
sending out my songs and I was promptly ignored. As
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01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:54.600
what happened. So I will send you. I will send
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01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.039
you Sira no bechamel when it drops. How do you
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01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:58.600
like that? Hey, I tell you the other thing I did. No,
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01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:00.640
I didn't. I haven't told anybody. So you know how
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01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.039
I've been like weirdly obsessed with Jake the Snake Roberts
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01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.640
Hall of Fame speech. Okay, So you know how how
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01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:09.359
the Basketball Diaries features the Jim Carroll Band singing all
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01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:13.159
the people who died. Yeah, I took the beat and
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01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.560
song and lyrical structure of all the people who died
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01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.479
and merged it with Jake the Snake's Fall of Fame
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speech where he incongruently and non secretarily said, all my
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01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.239
friends are dead. So the song is a recitation of
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01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.399
all of Jake the Snake's contemporaries who have died, and
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01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:32.720
the chorus is all my friends are dead dead.
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Excellent. That that is that that should be interesting.
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You know, comes out a week. I'll send it right
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01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.039
to you so you can listen to it. It is
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01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.000
the band. The band that made that song is the
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01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:55.640
passive aggressive, pan sexual Peanut Butters. Okay, that's my band.
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01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.239
It's my other band. I have two.
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01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.760
I was going to say how many bands you got?
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01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:03.800
I got two, not counting the rattiligion broadcasting stuff that
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01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:07.840
is part of sessions. Jason, are you doing any plugs?
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01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:12.079
Are you doing like any final fantasy football shit?
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01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:16.800
No? I mean fantasy football is over. My fantasy football
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01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:23.359
season ended the first in Week eighteen, well actually Week seventeen,
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01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.199
payout Team out of the Week eighteen. Uh So I'm
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01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:31.840
actually as far as Gwyn. I'm preparing for the draft
1282
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.199
and to see what because I'm in a lot of
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01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:41.600
dynasty leagues. And outside of that, only thing I'm really
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01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:43.840
doing is, you know, you got the month of Jason
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01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:47.399
here on the Adage of Broadcasting Network, and I'm doing homework,
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01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.880
trying to get my bachelor's degree. And that's pretty much
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01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:55.439
outside of work doing this show this month and homework,
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01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:58.840
I don't have time for anything else. I've got to
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01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:02.039
replace the hot water heater to say thank this this weekend.
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01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.439
So that's what we've done with me not trying to
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01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:05.199
burn my house down.
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01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:07.680
All right, Well, well, Jason's working in a coal mine
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01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:11.720
in West Virginia. Monday is the rip the wrecking crew
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01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:13.880
and roof man. That'll be myself, and that'll be me
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01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.800
torturing Robert. And then on Tuesday, Alexis will torture me
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01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.000
by making me watch the pilot episode of the New
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01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:22.600
Muppet Show. I will be on the Miguel Connor Podcast.
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01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:25.239
We'll see how that goes on Wednesday, and then the
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01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:31.960
aforementioned breaking and breaking to Electric Boogaloo on Thursday, and
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01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:35.359
then a week from Saturday. This got put off a bunch,
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01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:38.079
but we're we're doing it now. We're doing it live.
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This is a comic book adjacent podcast. We're looking at Oblivion,
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01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:47.640
Snow Piercer and the Fountain. All right, everyone enjoyed the
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01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:50.279
Super Bowl for it, Jason, I'm losing bets. Be well,
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be safe and behave Got gat got get, got Got
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got get