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Robin Dean: Travis, how was your month going?
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Travis Burleson: It's been a doozy.
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Travis Burleson: So we canceled the last podcast recording because I wasn't feeling well.
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Travis Burleson: I had a pretty, pretty aggressive upper respiratory infection there for a couple of weeks.
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Travis Burleson: You know, did the online doctor visit and they're like, oh, you might have coronavirus, but you're young and you don't seem like you're too sick.
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Travis Burleson: So just stay home.
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Travis Burleson: And then and then a week later I did the same thing.
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Travis Burleson: And they're like, oh, you should probably actually go to a real doctor since you're still sick.
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Travis Burleson: And then by the time I got to real doctor, she was like, they're like, OK, well, your symptoms are, you know, indicative of coronavirus, but also that's the same symptoms of any upper respiratory infection.
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Travis Burleson: Let's do an x-ray.
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Travis Burleson: And then they did an x-ray and then she like came in like super worried.
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Travis Burleson: It was like, I really think you have coronavirus.
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Travis Burleson: You need to go to the hospital right now.
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Travis Burleson: So they sent me to the ER.
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Travis Burleson: They sent me to the ER.
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Travis Burleson: They gave me a CAT scan, like in the like the corona response area.
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Travis Burleson: Of the ER, they gave me a CAT scan and and they did like a test swab.
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Travis Burleson: But it'd be a couple of days for like the corona swab thing to come back.
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Travis Burleson: And then they were like, OK, well, you definitely have a bunch of crap in your lungs.
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Travis Burleson: We'll tell you what the other test is.
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Travis Burleson: And then in a couple couple of days, the covid test came back and was not detected.
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Robin Dean: Awesome.
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Travis Burleson: And then they tested for every other viral infection that presents like that.
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Travis Burleson: And they were not detected.
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Travis Burleson: So it's probably a false negative of some sort.
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Tim Clarke: Or you have come up with your own novel, Travis Furleson virus.
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Travis Burleson: Yeah, you get the, you get the, the, the Burley virus.
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Tim Clarke: You got the Burley.
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Travis Burleson: The, yeah, so they're going to do, and I feel fine now.
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Travis Burleson: And the doctor's like, well, if you had it, you're, you're, you're past it and you're not contagious.
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Travis Burleson: So just follow regular pandemic protocols, wear a mask when you go outside and But they're going to do an antibody test here in a couple of weeks and see if I had it, they can tell me, you know, posthumously if I had it, which isn't super, but no one else in my house got sick.
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Travis Burleson: So that's, that's good.
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Travis Burleson: So the babies are good.
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Travis Burleson: My wife never got sick.
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Travis Burleson: Her parents never got sick.
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Travis Burleson: So that's good.
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Travis Burleson: I got a window put in, in the basement, which is nice.
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Travis Burleson: My workstation, except now the yard's all torn up.
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Travis Burleson: I had a guy, had a guy come look at that and it'll be like 700 bucks to have a landscaper come like regrade it and get the grass and stuff fixed.
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Travis Burleson: Boo.
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Travis Burleson: Just fill it with garbage bags.
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Travis Burleson: There's a, there is a window there now, which is very nice down here.
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Travis Burleson: My thing, still trying to sell my Kawasaki ER6N, my 2009 Kawasaki ER6N with 1400 miles on it, $3,500.
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Travis Burleson: Reach out via the Arrival Session if you're in the Southern Wisconsin area.
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Robin Dean: You know, tell me this, I got a counterproposal for you.
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Robin Dean: If Laurel's ever interested in hopping on anything two wheels again, we're, I'm, I think we're trying to ditch the scooter and I'd be willing to negotiate a thing there where, uh, I'd love to take the damaged Cowie and put some clip-ons and turn it into a track machine.
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Travis Burleson: Oh, maybe.
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Travis Burleson: I don't want your scooter though.
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Travis Burleson: Damn it.
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Travis Burleson: Somebody's going to want it.
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Travis Burleson: Um, dogs, sorry.
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Travis Burleson: Um, the, oh, so it's on, it's been listed on Facebook and Craigslist and stuff since the fall and now the weather's nice and everyone's getting their tax refunds and their stimulus checks.
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Travis Burleson: And so I've had a, I had a bunch of people reach out and they're mostly like young guys.
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Travis Burleson: I don't want to say kids, but kids.
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Travis Burleson: Um, and the, sometimes you just never hear back from them.
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Travis Burleson: And then there's this one kid at $3,500, which is a pretty good price.
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Travis Burleson: And I'm, I got some wiggle room there.
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Robin Dean: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: Uh, there was a, uh, local shop was selling basically the same bike for like 41 at like shop price, 4,100.
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Travis Burleson: So it's like 35.
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Travis Burleson: It's a good price.
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Travis Burleson: That's their meat on the bone.
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Travis Burleson: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: I get, I get this guy, this kid messaged me.
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Travis Burleson: How would you take $2,400?
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Travis Burleson: Will you take 30, will you take 35% off the asking price?
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Tim Clarke: Wow.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: So like Craigslist, I'm normally, you know, I'll price it about 10, 15% above what I really want to sell it for because I know people are going to come in at you.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah, that is ridiculous.
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Tim Clarke: No, 30% less.
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Tim Clarke: How many miles?
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Travis Burleson: 1400 and change.
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Travis Burleson: How long have they been making that motor?
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Travis Burleson: Long time, a decade and a half, two decades.
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Robin Dean: So parts for the foreseeable future.
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Robin Dean: And yeah, no, go away, kid.
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Travis Burleson: Yeah.
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Robin Dean: Good try.
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Travis Burleson: And four different models using that same platform.
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Travis Burleson: There's the, there's the, there's the Ninja 650.
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Travis Burleson: There's the ER6, just the Ninja without the fairing.
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Travis Burleson: There's the versus 650 and the Vulcan 650 are all the same platform or all the same motor, at least.
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Robin Dean: All right.
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Robin Dean: So what else you got?
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Travis Burleson: I'm trying to find, I got out a couple of times here to ride, which is nice.
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Travis Burleson: Just like a little 40 minute route.
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Travis Burleson: Not too far from my house.
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Travis Burleson: That's got some, got some good twisty bits down by like Lake Kaganza steak park and through some down by some apple orchards and around some farms and stuff.
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Travis Burleson: But then it started freaking snowing again this week in Wisconsin.
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Travis Burleson: So someone, someone posted on Facebook, what's this white stuff falling from the sky?
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Travis Burleson: And my answer was, Oh, that's the Rona raining down after the 5G mixes with the chemtrails.
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Travis Burleson: Um, but it was, it was, it was just snow turns out.
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Travis Burleson: But yeah, so I'm trying to get hard with the babies.
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Travis Burleson: You know, I got twin boys.
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Travis Burleson: If you haven't been listening to the podcast, I got twin infants.
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Travis Burleson: So.
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Robin Dean: Beautiful, beautiful children.
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Travis Burleson: Finding the time is, uh, yeah, they look nothing like Robin Dean.
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Travis Burleson: They look like actual humans.
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Travis Burleson: Um, but so find some time here and there.
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Travis Burleson: So 12, I'll get out, get some more riding in and, uh, this summer and get my, get my chops back.
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Travis Burleson: Cause there's definitely getting out the last couple of weeks when I could, you know, just don't quite have my, uh, my feet under me for the bike, but it's good.
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Travis Burleson: It's good to get on.
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Travis Burleson: It's good to ride.
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Travis Burleson: Got some new gear over the winter.
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Travis Burleson: Got some drunken late night online jacket purchases.
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Travis Burleson: I guess I ordered this, uh, but I got like the Revit, there's a good deal on like the Revit one.
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Travis Burleson: It just looks like kind of like a denim button down, but it's got the, the sea soft, the Revit sea soft armor in it.
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Travis Burleson: That's super thin and super flexible.
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Travis Burleson: So it doesn't, it just looks like a jacket.
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Travis Burleson: It doesn't look like a motorcycle jacket at all.
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Travis Burleson: Um, and if it's really nice and it's really, it's really nice to ride.
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Travis Burleson: And, um, the only thing it didn't have was it didn't have it's collared like a, like a regular jacket and it didn't have snaps on the collar to hold.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: So I just, I just installed some snaps on it myself.
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Travis Burleson: I was going to say that shouldn't be too big of a deal.
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Travis Burleson: Um, yeah, that's been my deal.
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Robin Dean: Well, you got the weekdays off, so you got to let me know.
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Robin Dean: Uh, I'm, I'm definitely available for riding on any given day.
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Robin Dean: So long as I have a little bit of advanced notice, I can try to make something happen now that we are, yeah.
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Robin Dean: But that's all, that's all to Tim.
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Robin Dean: I'm sorry.
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Travis Burleson: Um, yeah.
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Travis Burleson: Once you guys are out of travel quarantine, you know, maybe come down and maybe, uh, Maggie can spend some time with Laurel and the boys.
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Robin Dean: That'd be awesome.
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Robin Dean: That would be, she's, she wants that.
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Tim Clarke: Um, anyway, Tim, what are you been up to?
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Tim Clarke: Well, I've been packing and getting ready for the trip sevens tour with Robin.
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Tim Clarke: And, you know, I'm, it's always a challenge for me because I am a tech nerd and I like to pack basically like double the amount of tech of what my clothes are, like seriously, like the volume comparison, it's more than two to one tech versus clothing.
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Tim Clarke: So it gets a little out of hand.
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Tim Clarke: And so everything else is like super obsess over reduce, reduce.
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Travis Burleson: Tim's underwear is made out of SD cards.
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Tim Clarke: I was going to say, yeah.
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Tim Clarke: Like gorilla tape.
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Tim Clarke: Little chafing, but you know, I got a half terabyte below my waist.
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Tim Clarke: So it's all right.
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Tim Clarke: Is that how you get the ladies?
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Tim Clarke: That's right.
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Tim Clarke: You need to save.
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Tim Clarke: I've got the memory cards.
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Tim Clarke: I don't even know what that means.
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Tim Clarke: It doesn't mean anything.
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Tim Clarke: That's a nonsense.
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Tim Clarke: But, you know, so like just for giggles, I like posted up, I like sent you a link to my packing list where it tells you not only where it, what it is, what part of the luggage it's stowed on the bike.
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Tim Clarke: It's a little obsessive.
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Tim Clarke: Um, and then I will have Robin posted up pictures of my obsessive toolkit here.
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Tim Clarke: It's gotten smaller every year.
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Tim Clarke: Um, so yeah, the, basically I've got all the Torx bits for my bike, all the Allen bike kit, um, bits for my bike.
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Tim Clarke: A pretty good set of sockets in there.
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Tim Clarke: Um, screwdriver bits and a couple double size open end wrenches.
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Tim Clarke: So it'll be like 17 millimeter on one side, 13 on the other.
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Tim Clarke: So you end up having, you know, twice the wrench with half the wrench.
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Robin Dean: Yeah.
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Robin Dean: Not the favorite leverage, but definitely, uh, compatible, you know?
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: So I do have like one closed end, 13, 17 for my axles.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: That's just a tiny bike with tiny axles.
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Tim Clarke: So, so yeah, so all of that, it's like the main toolkit wraps into six inches long, about four inches wide and maybe three inches deep.
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Tim Clarke: Is that a bead breaker?
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Tim Clarke: That is the Motion Pro Bead Pro tire lever bead breaker combination.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: Yup.
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Tim Clarke: Yup.
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Tim Clarke: A little aluminum levers, uh, fantastic.
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Tim Clarke: Um, and then a little Leatherman signal to round it all out.
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Tim Clarke: And that all fits under the seat.
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Tim Clarke: Nice.
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Tim Clarke: Well, except for the tire levers, those are kind of stashed on the bag somewhere else.
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Tim Clarke: So yeah.
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Tim Clarke: Yup.
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Tim Clarke: So this is the whole thing, you know, I end up just crazy with the gadgets I've got.
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Tim Clarke: I'm going to be carrying a large, um, full frame mirrorless camera with a big ass 7,200 lens on it.
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Tim Clarke: And then I'm going to have my, my secondary camera, the RX 100 in the tank bag, um, spare batteries for both charges for both cables for both.
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Tim Clarke: Then I've got a GoPro, same thing, spare batteries, cables, chargers, remote.
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Tim Clarke: And, uh, decided like I tested out the gimbal and I lost the battery door and one of the batteries going down the road.
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Tim Clarke: So that's not coming.
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Tim Clarke: I don't really have room for it.
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Tim Clarke: Anyways.
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Robin Dean: I do love a gimbal though, but that's, you know, really good for the short ride and documenting us some stuff.
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Robin Dean: That's like a product and all that, whatever.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: I mean, it would have been, you know, the whole idea is like, you know, we can get a little promotional video.
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Tim Clarke: We can, we can even like, you know, if we're riding with people who are inexperienced, we can follow them, chase them down and like point out things to them when they're, when they're done with stabilized video.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Travis Burleson: Yes.
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Tim Clarke: Yes.
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Tim Clarke: You know, super, super slick.
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Tim Clarke: It it's the way it's supposed to be.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Robin Dean: We'll just, we'll just duct tape it to the side of my arm motor.
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Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Robin Dean: Why are there four of that rider?
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Tim Clarke: Instead we'll do the old primitive.
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Tim Clarke: I've got a little chin mount for the GoPro.
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Tim Clarke: Use my, my head as a gimbal.
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Robin Dean: So when you talk, the camera goes up and down.
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Robin Dean: This is a high.
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Tim Clarke: Yep.
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Tim Clarke: So that's been, you know, between everything else, it's getting the bike ready.
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Tim Clarke: I still need to do an old oil change before the trip.
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Tim Clarke: And that's pretty much it.
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Tim Clarke: We should be ready to go.
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Tim Clarke: Good noise.
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Tim Clarke: Um, how about you, Robert?
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Tim Clarke: Tell me what is going on with your week, your month or even your year.
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Tim Clarke: I don't want to know about that.
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Tim Clarke: I that's too much.
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Robin Dean: That's a lot of information.
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Robin Dean: Okay.
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Robin Dean: Uh, well, okay.
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Robin Dean: So I've got my notes here rolling with the COVID-19 punches and trying to stay optimistic and also following the science, you know, Tim, you've been keeping really good documentation of it, which has helped a lot.
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Robin Dean: I've been following you and Trav who are both following that.
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Robin Dean: Uh, just the, everything that needs to be known.
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Robin Dean: Um, the tours might take a hit, but for the trip subs, we certainly got lucky.
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Robin Dean: Uh, or hopefully we are being smart enough about how we're doing it, that we'll stay lucky.
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Robin Dean: MSF coaching work is completely non-existent.
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Robin Dean: So I've just, uh, I've been mostly just writing promotional materials and stuff.
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Robin Dean: That's it.
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Robin Dean: I've updated all three of our devices for trip sevens.
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Robin Dean: I've got two phones, plus a GPS unit to use the newest 2020 trip sevens maps, which now defaults to the advanced routes instead of the, uh, isn't this a nice tour?
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Robin Dean: No, it's about, damn, this is a good tour.
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Robin Dean: So that's all updated.
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Robin Dean: Um, preparing our rig for the trip to Lone Rock, Wisconsin.
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Robin Dean: That's done and done.
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Robin Dean: We are in Lone Rock.
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Robin Dean: As I say this, we got the coldest place with the warmest hearts.
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Robin Dean: Yes.
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Robin Dean: Yes.
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Robin Dean: And so it says the sign, we've got a really good spot.
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Robin Dean: Our, our bay window opens up into low trees with birds, fire pit garage.
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Robin Dean: It's all, it's all set up.
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Robin Dean: So, uh, we're very pleased with our location and, uh, everything's good.
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Robin Dean: We're, we're basically just looking to get the ride on and, and hopefully have a decent summer despite the circumstances and keep everybody alive.
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Robin Dean: You know?
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Robin Dean: Um, so with that, I'm going to go ahead and phase over to our, uh, guest interview with field correspondent, Margaret Dean, AKA Magsta.
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Travis Burleson: Our latest interview features John DelVecchio, a long time motorcycle instructor and author of Cornering Confidence.
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Travis Burleson: It's a great book aimed at helping you keep it rubber side down.
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Travis Burleson: Maggie Dean, take it away.
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Maggie Dean: Maggie Dean here with John DelVecchio.
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Maggie Dean: Did I say that correctly?
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Jon DelVecchio: You did.
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Maggie Dean: I'm here with John DelVecchio, the author of Cornering Confidence, the formula for a hundred percent control and curves, and John, I have a copy of your book right in front of me.
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Maggie Dean: I have to admit, I am almost done with it.
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Maggie Dean: I am in the middle of chapter 11.
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Maggie Dean: I've highlighted a couple of things that I want to talk about.
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Maggie Dean: Lots of sections.
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Maggie Dean: This is your interview, but I do want to start with a comment.
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Maggie Dean: I have to admit, I had a little resistance on reading.
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Maggie Dean: I'm a reader, but when it comes to something like an activity, as in riding your motorcycle, I think I kind of thought that live in person courses or even coaching are more beneficial.
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Maggie Dean: And we have a few books, but yours is the first one I actually read.
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Maggie Dean: And I have to say, I really appreciate it.
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Maggie Dean: It's very digestible.
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Maggie Dean: The pictures are simple, but effective.
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Maggie Dean: And the way that you structured the chapters as you lead up to the real, what I would say, meat of what a person that picks up this book would be interested in, I think it was a nice natural progression.
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Maggie Dean: So I'm really enjoying the book.
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Maggie Dean: And a lot of concepts are things that Robin already does and has tried to sort of share with me.
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Maggie Dean: So I guess he sort of preloaded me with some of the content and reading it.
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Maggie Dean: I was sitting there sort of, as you would talk through some of the action, the take action steps.
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Maggie Dean: I actually was sitting there doing it, you know, like with the kiss the mirror technique, which I do, but I think I like your description better of kissing the mirror.
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Maggie Dean: So anyway, that's just my comments.
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Maggie Dean: I really appreciate the book and I'm looking forward to when I finish getting into the online course.
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Maggie Dean: But with that, please tell us about yourself.
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Jon DelVecchio: Yeah.
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Jon DelVecchio: I, before I do get into a little bit about myself, I just want to say that hearing you bring that opening comment into the conversation right away is, is really hits right at the heart of what I was trying to do with this book.
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Jon DelVecchio: I, you know, when someone writes a book or they teach a course, you know, it's really not, I guess, beneficial to just repeat what someone else is doing.
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Jon DelVecchio: And when I kind of honed in on the cornering confidence curriculum, if you will, I wanted it to be sort of a new thing, a different thing brought into the, to the discussion, whereas, you know, the, the, the total controls, the sport writing techniques, these, these, what I call encyclopedic books.
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Jon DelVecchio: They're fantastic.
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Jon DelVecchio: But I didn't want to create a book that was going to be just parroting what those were, or to try to insert myself into the conversation as someone who knows the great details like these people who've dedicated their lives to it.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so when you say that you picked up the book and you read through it, even
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Jon DelVecchio: in spite of the fact that you were thinking maybe a book isn't, you know,
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Jon DelVecchio: the best way to learn a physical skill, like riding a motorcycle, it really
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Jon DelVecchio: does make me feel good because that was the goal that the book is, is like a
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Jon DelVecchio: how-to, a hands-on description of the actual lesson plans or skills that I
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Jon DelVecchio: would like to develop people through the beginning to the end.
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Jon DelVecchio: And it wasn't, it's not designed to be the type of book that is to, to per se build your knowledge base.
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Jon DelVecchio: I try to put some knowledge in there, some background information on why things might be relevant only to the point where it's effective.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so that makes me feel pretty happy.
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Jon DelVecchio: And it's also different in the fact that when, when I wrote the book, it was sort of like the how-to to bring you from point A to point B where a lot of times you'll read these encyclopedia skills books and they're just knowledge conveyance.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now, some of them like total control does give you exercises and they do, they are kind of hands-on books, but this was supposed to be a method of bringing someone from one point to another.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now, so, so that's the book.
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Jon DelVecchio: And then of course the book, the book came in between teaching coaching tours in track day courses and, and the online course.
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Jon DelVecchio: So the book is kind of smack dab in the middle of my writing school, which is called Street Skills.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I began in 2015, in 2016, I got my big break to teach coaching tours at the BMW MOA rally in Hamburg, New York.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I did the two after that as well.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I also did some track day courses annually for the first three years of my school, which is where many of the pictures come from.
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Jon DelVecchio: So then when I, when I decided to write the book, I decided to maybe back off a little bit on the coaching tours and the track days.
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Jon DelVecchio: Those are pretty expensive and for time.
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Jon DelVecchio: But the online course I really am happy about.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I basically took the same curriculum from the book, put it into the online course.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now you run into similar issues with an online course where people say, you know, I can't learn how to ride a motorcycle from the computer.
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Jon DelVecchio: Whereas the MSF basic writer course now has its first classroom session through a similar standalone online course.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I think this is just something that could be on the rise there.
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Jon DelVecchio: But to go back a little bit more, to just introduce who I am.
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Jon DelVecchio: My name is John DelVecchio.
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Jon DelVecchio: I live in Rochester, New York, and I was a MSF rider coach from roughly 2007 to 2017.
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Jon DelVecchio: And as you can see, I said I started my school in 2015 and so there was a little overlap there, but I decided to branch off on my own and to explore some of the finer, the finer points of cornering.
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Jon DelVecchio: And that kind of led me down the path to focusing on the Cornering Confidence Program.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I'm a licensed driving school in New York State, Street Skills.
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Jon DelVecchio: I also have a American Motorcyclists Association Promoter Charter and that's how I tend to get the sanctioning and insurance for the events that I do live.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so that just kind of gives you a little bit of background of, you know, my credentials, if you will, or where I come from.
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Jon DelVecchio: I am pretty happy to see while I'm really not a big name in, you know, motorcycle coaching, my book does show up with the, with the big boys.
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Jon DelVecchio: And that really makes me proud because they shaped, they shaped me as a rider and to be on the same pages as them and on Amazon is really, is really a thrill for me.
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Maggie Dean: So the big boys, are you referring to people like Lee Parks and who are some others?
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Jon DelVecchio: Yeah.
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Jon DelVecchio: So, um, you basically, the basic books that, the basic books that sort of shaped me and the experts that, that I developed my skills through paying attention to over the time have to do with, so Total Control was big.
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Jon DelVecchio: That was probably one of the, Total Control was the first book I probably read after Proficient Motorcycling and in the basic traffic types of things.
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Jon DelVecchio: I also read Keith Code, Twist of the Wrist 2.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now that, that was also a big influence in my, I guess, method, if you will, Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Inotch.
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Jon DelVecchio: Fantastic.
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Jon DelVecchio: There's also Reg Pridmore's book, Smooth Riding.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I would say those four books and programs were, were some of the, I guess, most influential in my assembling the method that I'm teaching in the Cornering Confidence book.
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Jon DelVecchio: And what I would also like to point out is that the book is my personal preferences on certain techniques that I have learned from the different experts.
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Jon DelVecchio: So one thing I might've learned from Lee Park's book, one thing I might've learned from taking the Champs school with Nick Inotch and reading his book, you know, there are certain things that you may or may not like depending on your preference or how it feels for you.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so what I've tended, what I tended to do was think through the bits and pieces of what I've learned over the years, about 20 years worth of writing and assembled them into the method.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so that's sort of where the book comes from.
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Jon DelVecchio: It's, it's no one aha moment from, you know, from start to finish from one other expert to another.
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Jon DelVecchio: It's, it's bits and pieces sort of dragged in and assembled in different, in a different way, basically.
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Maggie Dean: Okay.
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Maggie Dean: So what I'm hearing is, and that was the impression I got as I was reading the book, you're not saying in the book that this is the way, the only way, the best way.
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Maggie Dean: It is a way and it works well, but you're not trying to say that is, it is the way.
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Jon DelVecchio: That's exactly right.
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Jon DelVecchio: For example, I'll just give you one quick example of how that's, that's true.
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Jon DelVecchio: We, when I teach people to do the brake to throttle transitions, which people think of trail braking, but brake throttle transitions is going back and forth from each control, one to the other.
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Jon DelVecchio: Many people, myself included, prefer the first two fingers resting on the front brake lever.
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Jon DelVecchio: And then when you roll off the throttle onto the brake and off the brake and onto the throttle.
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Jon DelVecchio: Well, some people have said, well, I like to use the outside three fingers on my hand to go onto the brake lever.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I like to keep the index finger wrapped around the, the throttle grip.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I say, go, that's fine.
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Jon DelVecchio: If that's your preference, if you like that better, do that because it's the actual transitioning from the brake to the throttle.
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Jon DelVecchio: That's really the important part.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I, I try to be direct with people that does, you know, maybe you're going to use 99 or 90% of what I propose.
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Jon DelVecchio: Maybe you're already using some of it.
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Jon DelVecchio: Maybe you're not, maybe you just don't like it today.
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Jon DelVecchio: Maybe tomorrow you realize that this might be something you're interested in.
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Jon DelVecchio: And there are techniques that I have learned taking other people's courses that I just don't like.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now I have a friend who knows, knows all about what I teach.
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Jon DelVecchio: We were, we ride together, you know, we're sport tours and he, he prefers the method of keeping your revs high and your RPMs near peak horsepower and using very little brake.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now, sometimes he would trail brake as I would encourage the way I do it.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I use less engine braking.
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Jon DelVecchio: I use less peak horsepower numbers and running that higher, that higher RPM.
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Jon DelVecchio: And even though I've tried to sell him or not sell him on it, but he knows I'm a big proponent of the trail braking technique.
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Jon DelVecchio: He still prefers running the higher RPM in the twistiest sections.
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Jon DelVecchio: And it's not up to me to say, Hey, you know, friend, you really should be doing it the way I'm saying, because what works for someone works for them.
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Jon DelVecchio: And that is what they should be using because it's all about confidence.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now personally, because I wrote my method the way it is and I teach the method the way it is.
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Jon DelVecchio: I believe that when you're in the twisties, sport touring, sport riding that really nothing beats the trail braking technique using front brake, brake to throttle transitions.
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Jon DelVecchio: I personally believe that's the best way to, I guess, go through those types of riding environments, but I'm sure that for every one person that is agreeing with what I'm saying, there's another person that agrees.
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Jon DelVecchio: No, you don't use the brakes at all.
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Jon DelVecchio: We're going to use engine braking and it's a very valid technique because it will slow the motorcycle down.
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Jon DelVecchio: And we know we have to slow before we enter that turn.
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Jon DelVecchio: It's just at what point do we transfer from brake to throttle?
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Jon DelVecchio: And when, when do we start to increase our speed in a corner versus reduce the speed?
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Jon DelVecchio: At what point do we do that?
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Jon DelVecchio: And so, so that's, I guess my answer to that.
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Maggie Dean: So you do coaching tours.
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Maggie Dean: Tell me a little bit about that.
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Jon DelVecchio: Yeah.
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Jon DelVecchio: So the coaching tours, when I began at my school, I knew I wanted to teach a curriculum that had to do with cornering, but here I was, I wasn't an MSF site.
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Jon DelVecchio: I wasn't doing any basic instruction or training.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so I didn't have a parking lot.
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Jon DelVecchio: I didn't have, you know, I did, I had a track to go to and I did go to the New York safety track in Oneonta, but those are very expensive events to put on.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so I said, well, the roads are free.
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Jon DelVecchio: And when we take people into twisty environments, they might be a little bit more, I guess, excited to take, you know, coaching tours or to take training, if you will.
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Jon DelVecchio: I don't really particularly like the word training, even though that's what people refer to it as.
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Jon DelVecchio: I just think it has a negative vibe to it.
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Jon DelVecchio: But so I said, I'm going to do these coaching tours because I can just get the sanctioning and insurance from the American Motorcyclists Association.
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Jon DelVecchio: I can meet these people and we'll go use those public roads.
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Jon DelVecchio: And however that using public roads brings with it a whole set of other problems.
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Jon DelVecchio: And, you know, you have to try to price the tour accordingly and marketing and get people involved.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so it's hard.
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Jon DelVecchio: It was hard initially for me to recruit people to take my coaching tours where I live in Western New York state near the Buffalo area.
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Jon DelVecchio: And what I found was if I partnered with organizations like the MOA, the BMW Motorcycle Owners of America, they could do the marketing and they did just that.
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Jon DelVecchio: So my first coaching tours that really took off were in 2016 at the Hamburg Rally.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I sold 24 seats, four people in six different classes.
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Jon DelVecchio: And I had 24 people on the waiting list.
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Jon DelVecchio: It was very successful.
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Jon DelVecchio: And then the next year I went to Utah, same thing, had a waiting list.
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Jon DelVecchio: And, you know, I realized that the leveraging the marketing of that organization was going to be better for me.
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Jon DelVecchio: Now I decided that it was difficult for me to follow the road show of the MOA because they go to very different places around the country.
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Jon DelVecchio: So my whole idea was to set up shop maybe in Roanoke, Virginia, base myself out of a BMW dealership down there.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so last year at this time I did run two courses.
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Jon DelVecchio: But it's, it's, it's a tricky thing to do.
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Jon DelVecchio: That's why you don't see a whole lot of coaching tours.
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Jon DelVecchio: I mean, I'm sure Robin and you, when you're doing these, these tours that you are bringing people like the 777 and the other one coming up in Michigan.
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Jon DelVecchio: It's quite challenging to lead rides, especially if people that you really aren't familiar with.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so in addition to having to give them a nice ride and to make sure that they enjoy themselves and safely, you know, when you're doing a coaching tour, you're trying to teach them something as well.
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Jon DelVecchio: And that can lead to issues because we're, what are people thinking about?
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Jon DelVecchio: Are they thinking about the road hazard or the technique you're trying to teach them?
00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:38.690
Jon DelVecchio: And it's a real challenge.
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Jon DelVecchio: And so part of part of what interested me in making the online course was that people can read the book along with the online course, learn the skills.
00:31:49.910 --> 00:31:56.710
Jon DelVecchio: So what, so what really has me excited about the online course is it solves a lot of problems for me.
00:31:56.810 --> 00:32:08.690
Jon DelVecchio: And it does, I guess, extend opportunities to the riding community even more because with, with the online course, people can learn the skills, pace themselves out.
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Jon DelVecchio: We can, we can talk, we can do zooms.
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Jon DelVecchio: We can, you know, even meet in person if people are close throughout the online course.
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Jon DelVecchio: And then at the end we can just get together and discuss the course skills informally and just, I guess, be riding buddies.
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Jon DelVecchio: You know, when, when I'm teaching the coaching tours, they're very, they're, they're structured events.
00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:31.510
Jon DelVecchio: I can't really let my hair down.
00:32:32.470 --> 00:32:42.150
Jon DelVecchio: Whereas if we, we take someone through the online course, now when I get to see people face to face, it can be more of a social learning event if you will.
00:32:42.490 --> 00:32:45.390
Jon DelVecchio: And to give people the thumbs up or thumbs down on the skills.
00:32:45.950 --> 00:32:51.970
Jon DelVecchio: One, how I could explain this a little bit better is the, the three rallies I did for the MLA.
00:32:52.570 --> 00:32:54.570
Jon DelVecchio: I mean, it was start to finish.
00:32:54.710 --> 00:32:57.770
Jon DelVecchio: I was just exhausting myself cause I was a one man show.
00:32:57.770 --> 00:33:02.130
Jon DelVecchio: So I would get there a day or two early, prep the class route.
00:33:02.570 --> 00:33:09.850
Jon DelVecchio: Then I would execute the classes and it would take me, you know, from when I got up at six in the morning till five or six o'clock at night.
00:33:10.290 --> 00:33:13.550
Jon DelVecchio: And I didn't get a chance to enjoy the rallies.
00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:16.490
Jon DelVecchio: I didn't get a chance to really get to know the people.
00:33:16.690 --> 00:33:19.970
Jon DelVecchio: And that, that's the, I guess the most important part for me.
00:33:20.230 --> 00:33:29.650
Jon DelVecchio: And so what's, what's nice about the new model is people can get the instruction upfront through me communicating with them in various ways.
00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:36.170
Jon DelVecchio: And then when I go to the rallies, we just hang out, we go for rides, there's no pressure.
00:33:37.310 --> 00:33:49.610
Jon DelVecchio: And I think that that's going to be more enjoyable for me than I guess carrying this burden of, of the coaching tours is a sole operator for, you know, three to five days at a time.
00:33:49.650 --> 00:33:52.630
Jon DelVecchio: And I think that's going to be more affordable for people.
00:33:52.909 --> 00:33:58.310
Jon DelVecchio: And it's been, it's been quite successful since August is when I published the online course.
00:33:58.590 --> 00:34:01.030
Jon DelVecchio: The book now has been out two years.
00:34:01.369 --> 00:34:01.570
Maggie Dean: Yeah.
00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:03.730
Maggie Dean: I saw that, that it came out in 2018.
00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:13.170
Maggie Dean: So it's pretty fresh and I liked the, uh, the little fact or fiction boxes, which, you know, those are kind of fun.
00:34:13.650 --> 00:34:18.849
Maggie Dean: A couple of times you address do cruisers require different breaking techniques.
00:34:19.470 --> 00:34:25.710
Maggie Dean: So, you know, this isn't, while the audience might be more sport touring, this can be for anybody.
00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:26.770
Maggie Dean: The techniques.
00:34:27.270 --> 00:34:27.830
Jon DelVecchio: Yeah, exactly.
00:34:28.130 --> 00:34:43.450
Jon DelVecchio: Um, now one of the things I remember Lee Parks, you know, saying in his book and through his teachings and things is it, the motorcycle, basically any, any motorcycle could be ridden well in, in the same, with the same techniques.
00:34:43.650 --> 00:34:51.990
Jon DelVecchio: Yes, there's different weight biases from a cruiser to a sport bike and lower, um, you know, parts and things and ground clearance.
00:34:52.090 --> 00:35:02.430
Jon DelVecchio: But generally speaking, the techniques that are proper writing, and let's say even a proper writing for advanced, uh, riders, they're generally the same techniques.
00:35:02.450 --> 00:35:14.430
Jon DelVecchio: And if you look at the book on the cover, there's a, there's a gentleman on a, um, a Harley, and he was a great student and he was using the techniques, especially kiss the mirror.
00:35:14.550 --> 00:35:16.370
Jon DelVecchio: We want to keep the motorcycle more upright.
00:35:16.850 --> 00:35:20.750
Jon DelVecchio: And that's really important when you have a cruiser in parts that can drag.
00:35:21.410 --> 00:35:24.350
Jon DelVecchio: Uh, there's one person, I think it might even be that image.
00:35:24.390 --> 00:35:26.730
Jon DelVecchio: I'm looking at the, let's see what page it is now.
00:35:27.070 --> 00:35:32.030
Jon DelVecchio: There was one guy on a cruiser in the book and I'm not sure if he's on my website or in the book.
00:35:32.090 --> 00:35:33.170
Jon DelVecchio: I'd have to go back and check.
00:35:33.330 --> 00:35:39.350
Jon DelVecchio: There's just a lot of pages to look at, but he was at my New York safety track, uh, course.
00:35:40.410 --> 00:35:43.590
Jon DelVecchio: And about noon he said, look, I've had enough.
00:35:43.630 --> 00:35:45.110
Jon DelVecchio: I, I learned so much.
00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:55.110
Jon DelVecchio: Um, he was on this vintage, uh, Harley Davidson, uh, and he said just the kissing the mirror, just the technique of shifting my body inside the turn.
00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:56.830
Jon DelVecchio: He goes, I learned enough.
00:35:56.910 --> 00:35:57.630
Jon DelVecchio: It was worth it.
00:35:57.710 --> 00:35:58.450
Jon DelVecchio: I had a ball.
00:35:58.570 --> 00:35:59.390
Jon DelVecchio: Thanks for everything.
00:35:59.970 --> 00:36:03.390
Jon DelVecchio: And we didn't even get into the real good stuff yet.
00:36:03.450 --> 00:36:08.910
Jon DelVecchio: And this person was thrilled that they had attended the class and participated.
00:36:09.210 --> 00:36:20.370
Jon DelVecchio: And again, I was, that made me happy to see that, that the cruiser crowd right up through the sport touring crowd and everything in between could gain something from, from the book.
00:36:20.530 --> 00:36:27.150
Jon DelVecchio: So what it really boils down to is that cornering confidence is a way to control your speed and steering.
00:36:27.430 --> 00:36:38.810
Jon DelVecchio: If you can master the brake throttle transitions and get them timed properly, then you can turn a motorcycle very easily, regardless of how fast you're going, where you're riding it.
00:36:38.810 --> 00:36:41.390
Jon DelVecchio: And, um, I'm pretty proud of that fact.
00:37:05.390 --> 00:37:06.210
Robin Dean: Hey everybody.
00:37:06.450 --> 00:37:07.430
Robin Dean: Robin Dean here.
00:37:07.790 --> 00:37:11.670
Robin Dean: I asked Maggie to get me a 20 minute interview with the one and only John Delvecchio.
00:37:11.790 --> 00:37:13.110
Robin Dean: I thought this is a big name.
00:37:13.510 --> 00:37:17.970
Robin Dean: She got me an hour and 10 minutes of invaluable information.
00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:21.250
Robin Dean: So we only had 20 minutes for this episode of the podcast.
00:37:21.410 --> 00:37:26.490
Robin Dean: If you go to the episode page, however, the entirety of it is available there.
00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:28.870
Robin Dean: What you've heard so far, that's just a taste.
00:37:29.110 --> 00:37:31.190
Robin Dean: Trail braking, chin over wrist riding.
00:37:31.450 --> 00:37:32.350
Robin Dean: It's all in there.
00:37:32.750 --> 00:37:36.230
Robin Dean: In-depth bridging and connecting references to all kinds of technical details.
00:37:36.490 --> 00:37:37.350
Robin Dean: Make sure you check it out.
00:37:37.590 --> 00:37:41.550
Robin Dean: That's an hour and 10 minutes with John Delvecchio of Cornering Confidence.
00:37:41.930 --> 00:37:42.390
Robin Dean: Have at it.
00:37:42.950 --> 00:37:44.410
Tim Clarke: And that was our guest interview.
00:37:44.750 --> 00:37:50.530
Tim Clarke: You can find out more about John Delvecchio and his curriculum at streetskills.net.
00:37:51.290 --> 00:37:53.390
Robin Dean: Also, we'd love to hear your motorcycle story.
00:37:53.550 --> 00:37:59.670
Robin Dean: If you'd be, if you'd like to be featured on this podcast, record your thoughts to an app like Auphonic for Android and iPhone.
00:38:00.050 --> 00:38:03.130
Robin Dean: That's spelled A-U-P-H-O-N-I-C.
00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:06.430
Robin Dean: Upload the resulting file to SoundCloud or something and email us the link.
00:38:06.590 --> 00:38:10.190
Robin Dean: We'll polish things up before featuring your tale in your voice and words.
00:38:10.590 --> 00:38:14.470
Robin Dean: And so now that brings us to this month in motorcycle history.
00:38:14.870 --> 00:38:20.950
Robin Dean: May 26th, 1975, Evel Knievel crashes attempting to jump 13 London buses at Wembley Stadium.
00:38:21.550 --> 00:38:25.890
Robin Dean: Quote, you are the last person people in the world who will ever see me jump unquote.
00:38:26.030 --> 00:38:28.710
Robin Dean: He told the crowd because I will never ever jump again.
00:38:28.830 --> 00:38:33.350
Robin Dean: I am through a crowd of nearly 60,000 at London's Wembley Stadium.
00:38:33.530 --> 00:38:43.410
Robin Dean: Witness Evel Knievel reach a grim end to his career when he attempts to jump over 13 side-by-side London double-decker buses on his Harley Davidson XR 750.
00:38:44.470 --> 00:38:51.990
Travis Burleson: Catching the last bus, Knievel somersaults just after landing and lays unconscious with his bike on top of them.
00:38:52.310 --> 00:38:58.850
Travis Burleson: Evel suffers a fractured pelvis, a crushed vertebra, broken right hand, and sustained a concussion.
00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:11.250
Travis Burleson: It was a painful ending to a Monday afternoon in which the audience happily watched other people in danger, including 71 year old Henry Lamothe who dived 40 feet into only 14 inches of water.
00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:17.230
Travis Burleson: Roy Franzen who dived 60 feet into a blazing pool after first setting himself on fire.
00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:25.150
Travis Burleson: And the Traber family who walked the high wire, blindfolded, then rode up on motorcycles, suspending a woman underneath.
00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:28.170
Tim Clarke: That bit about never jumping again.
00:39:28.470 --> 00:39:32.170
Tim Clarke: Well, that lasted until October 15th, 1975.
00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:33.590
Tim Clarke: What is that?
00:39:33.830 --> 00:39:34.850
Tim Clarke: Six months?
00:39:35.230 --> 00:39:35.470
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:39:35.670 --> 00:39:40.750
Tim Clarke: When he cleared 14 Greyhound buses at Kings Mills, Ohio.
00:39:41.170 --> 00:39:43.370
Travis Burleson: This is a giant hold my beer episode.
00:39:44.070 --> 00:39:44.390
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:39:44.750 --> 00:40:00.770
Travis Burleson: So you know what, man, just on a side note, Harley Davidson who's in needs to make a street XR 750, not the whatever garbage they put out that road rod thing, street rod, XR 750 like Evel Knievels.
00:40:00.910 --> 00:40:02.490
Travis Burleson: Just make it, sell it.
00:40:02.810 --> 00:40:04.050
Travis Burleson: Anyway, side note over.
00:40:04.470 --> 00:40:04.970
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:12.670
Tim Clarke: I remember seeing those on TV long after the fact, because clearly that was the year I was born.
00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:14.110
Tim Clarke: Why will the sports?
00:40:14.790 --> 00:40:15.070
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:15.550
Robin Dean: All right.
00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:17.110
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Robin Dean: Uh, yeah.
00:40:37.630 --> 00:40:38.050
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00:40:38.170 --> 00:40:39.250
Robin Dean: So Travis, what are we talking about?
00:40:39.950 --> 00:40:47.290
Travis Burleson: Uh, you know, I'd want to look at the new 2020 Suzuki Vstrom 1050 XT.
00:40:49.290 --> 00:41:01.210
Travis Burleson: So a couple of years ago, Suzuki redid the Vstrom 1000, the big Vstrom, um, you know, made it, got rid of the God awful bubble windshield that everyone hated.
00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:03.790
Travis Burleson: Uh, either I had that bike.
00:41:04.090 --> 00:41:05.410
Tim Clarke: It really sucked.
00:41:05.710 --> 00:41:05.870
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:41:05.930 --> 00:41:12.210
Travis Burleson: The styling, the styling was divisive and some people like this awesome did, but everyone hated the way the windshield actually functions.
00:41:13.070 --> 00:41:13.170
Tim Clarke: Yep.
00:41:13.310 --> 00:41:20.290
Travis Burleson: Um, so they went in with like a beaky, more adventure, modern adventure a couple of years ago and they've just done another refresh on it.
00:41:20.570 --> 00:41:24.490
Travis Burleson: And now they're calling it the 1050, even though the displacement has not changed.
00:41:24.810 --> 00:41:30.210
Travis Burleson: Um, cause it's always been 1036 I think, or 1038 CCs.
00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:32.330
Travis Burleson: Um, but now they're calling it the 1050.
00:41:32.850 --> 00:41:37.050
Travis Burleson: Uh, what they did do is rework the engine, keeping the displacement the same.
00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:38.010
Travis Burleson: So cams are different.
00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:40.630
Travis Burleson: They just kind of tweaked all the little tweaky things you do on a rework.
00:41:40.790 --> 00:41:42.370
Travis Burleson: It's now throttled by wire.
00:41:42.570 --> 00:41:46.830
Travis Burleson: They're including cruise control, trash control, rider mode.
00:41:47.010 --> 00:41:51.290
Travis Burleson: So there's different trash control modes you can set different engine power modes you can set.
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:56.270
Travis Burleson: Um, you know, and cruise control are, are de facto tools in it.
00:41:56.830 --> 00:41:59.330
Travis Burleson: Um, I think you still get cruise control even on the base model.
00:41:59.550 --> 00:42:03.630
Travis Burleson: Um, if you get the adventure, obviously you get the hard bags and the factory, all that stuff.
00:42:03.890 --> 00:42:11.930
Travis Burleson: Um, and they've got some, uh, if you're back from the nineties, I believe the Dr. Big, that might've was that they ever saw that in the United States.
00:42:11.990 --> 00:42:13.510
Travis Burleson: Was that Europe only the DR big?
00:42:13.710 --> 00:42:16.250
Tim Clarke: I think the DR big was only Europe.
00:42:16.410 --> 00:42:21.530
Tim Clarke: Um, yeah, I know it was developed as a Dakar racer if I remember correctly.
00:42:21.850 --> 00:42:22.110
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:42:22.610 --> 00:42:28.090
Tim Clarke: So it was in the age of the, like the big old XR 650 from Honda.
00:42:29.410 --> 00:42:39.790
Travis Burleson: So they kind of have the styling and colors are kind of, uh, an homage to the DR big, um, including an all yellow, which I think looks great.
00:42:40.150 --> 00:42:41.670
Travis Burleson: Um, like it looks like a race bike.
00:42:41.770 --> 00:42:43.930
Travis Burleson: It looks like a bigger DR big.
00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:45.990
Travis Burleson: Uh, so I think it looks cool.
00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:52.450
Travis Burleson: Especially like the V-Strom has always kind of been more of a sport touring adventure bike.
00:42:52.710 --> 00:42:53.190
Robin Dean: Yeah.
00:42:53.630 --> 00:42:56.950
Robin Dean: Adventure sport is one adventure sport.
00:42:56.970 --> 00:43:01.970
Travis Burleson: Like it's, it's always been one of the more road oriented, softer adventure bikes.
00:43:01.990 --> 00:43:03.730
Robin Dean: I've never liked the V-Strom.
00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:05.270
Robin Dean: I like this.
00:43:06.750 --> 00:43:07.150
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:43:07.150 --> 00:43:08.630
Travis Burleson: I think it, I think it looks good.
00:43:08.690 --> 00:43:11.150
Travis Burleson: I think it's an improvement over the last update.
00:43:11.590 --> 00:43:15.170
Travis Burleson: Um, and uh, you know, there was what's at the Fort nine.
00:43:15.330 --> 00:43:23.250
Travis Burleson: He did a good review and that's been his bike for a while, but it's not the, oh, and this was the last one before this refresh, how it's, it's a really good bike.
00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:25.870
Travis Burleson: It's like not, it's, it's very Honda asking that.
00:43:25.970 --> 00:43:29.010
Travis Burleson: It's not great at anything, but man, it does it all really well.
00:43:29.890 --> 00:43:32.970
Travis Burleson: Um, like you can off-road it if you want.
00:43:33.230 --> 00:43:34.510
Travis Burleson: You might need to modify a little bit.
00:43:34.590 --> 00:43:35.810
Travis Burleson: You can sport to run it if you want.
00:43:35.870 --> 00:43:37.130
Travis Burleson: You can commute on it if you want.
00:43:37.390 --> 00:43:39.270
Travis Burleson: And it's just not, it's not really going to let you down.
00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:41.250
Travis Burleson: Um, and it's like got enough power.
00:43:41.350 --> 00:43:46.790
Travis Burleson: It's not like, Whoa, power, but it's like got plenty of power for a big bike for touring for two upriding.
00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:53.010
Travis Burleson: Um, the only thing that gets me about the new one though, is that $17,000 price tag.
00:43:53.870 --> 00:44:04.050
Travis Burleson: And that puts it up against like the beamers, like the, the 1200 GS is, um, that's in the range of the Honda Africa twin as well.
00:44:04.390 --> 00:44:04.790
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:44:04.890 --> 00:44:13.210
Tim Clarke: And I think even the new KTM, uh, seven 90 adventures around that price tag, I think it's less for starting for starting price.
00:44:13.450 --> 00:44:13.850
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:44:13.950 --> 00:44:28.890
Travis Burleson: Um, and so that's what I got one is like, if you want to, if you want to support, I mean, if you want the off roady stuff, you know, but if you want it for street use and you want to support tour, the tracer 900 GT with the bags and the GT trim is 13,000.
00:44:29.910 --> 00:44:30.350
Travis Burleson: Wow.
00:44:30.350 --> 00:44:36.250
Travis Burleson: And has that, that wicked, that wicked 900 CC triple as a wonderful bike.
00:44:36.510 --> 00:44:40.630
Robin Dean: And the name backing, I mean, Suzuki to me is sort of, it's not that they're a discount anything.
00:44:40.790 --> 00:44:46.030
Robin Dean: They are a great brand, but usually when you buy Suzuki, something about is made of Swiss cheese that you're going to have to upgrade.
00:44:46.450 --> 00:44:46.890
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:44:47.330 --> 00:45:03.190
Tim Clarke: They are the Kings of the parts bin builds where, you know, this they repurpose a part in every bike that they use, you know, so that it leads to lower overhead and they tend to be lower overhead or lower over for all prices.
00:45:03.450 --> 00:45:08.190
Tim Clarke: Um, which is, you know, and they build them and they run them forever.
00:45:08.190 --> 00:45:09.890
Tim Clarke: And so parts are everywhere.
00:45:10.030 --> 00:45:19.350
Tim Clarke: So like the DR six 50 is not changed since 97, you know, and that's another one of those rock solid bulletproof bike.
00:45:19.810 --> 00:45:23.990
Tim Clarke: You can tear apart in a gas station parking lot and get back on the road.
00:45:23.990 --> 00:45:25.230
Travis Burleson: How would you know, Tim?
00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:37.770
Robin Dean: Well, with the tracer, you get that, like the Yamaha branding, which is totally galvanized to the point where they were able to experiment nonsensically with bizarre two strokes and such for a fraction of the cost.
00:45:37.890 --> 00:45:40.670
Robin Dean: I mean, either way, I hope it does well.
00:45:40.830 --> 00:45:43.550
Robin Dean: It's the, I've never been drawn to that bike and yet here it is.
00:45:43.630 --> 00:45:45.530
Robin Dean: I'm like, well, that actually doesn't look bad at all.
00:45:46.250 --> 00:45:51.990
Travis Burleson: I, I, I test rode a couple and I liked, I mean, I liked that, that big, that big V twin motor.
00:45:53.150 --> 00:45:59.830
Travis Burleson: Um, I think it, uh, and I mean, I would, if I had the money, I would really think about it, about buying a new one.
00:45:59.830 --> 00:46:07.310
Travis Burleson: Or even just like the last gen one, like the, when they first did the beaky, the beaky look, um, there was one last year.
00:46:07.390 --> 00:46:10.470
Travis Burleson: Again, I had the, the babies on the way, so it wasn't going to happen.
00:46:11.070 --> 00:46:13.450
Travis Burleson: Um, but there, they had like a couple.
00:46:13.710 --> 00:46:16.770
Travis Burleson: So the base, the base 10 50, just go back, starts at 14.
00:46:17.050 --> 00:46:18.510
Travis Burleson: The adventures is 17.
00:46:18.770 --> 00:46:21.210
Travis Burleson: So that's the, that's the price discrepancy there.
00:46:21.590 --> 00:46:32.770
Travis Burleson: But there, they had a last generation, like a year or two old brand new at the dealership adventure model with the bags, the skid plate, the hair, the whole, the whole trim.
00:46:33.170 --> 00:46:34.530
Travis Burleson: Um, and it was like 10 grand.
00:46:34.830 --> 00:46:35.730
Robin Dean: No, that's getting more.
00:46:35.810 --> 00:46:36.630
Robin Dean: That's more like it.
00:46:36.730 --> 00:46:39.090
Travis Burleson: And I was like, cause it was, you know, it was Mark, it was Mark to move.
00:46:39.170 --> 00:46:40.770
Travis Burleson: It was a couple of years old sitting on the floor.
00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:45.770
Travis Burleson: Um, but it was the, the, not the new 2020 revamp, but the last, the last gen from that.
00:46:45.790 --> 00:46:56.950
Travis Burleson: And it was like, I, Oh, it was, it was, I was like, Oh, I really thought about it, but, um, but yeah, cause I guess I've, I've test ridden them and it's like, they, they make good power.
00:46:56.990 --> 00:46:57.590
Travis Burleson: They're comfortable.
00:46:57.590 --> 00:46:59.570
Travis Burleson: They got the adventure bike riding stance.
00:47:00.930 --> 00:47:08.330
Tim Clarke: And I had the, the gen one, um, 1000 and it was, you know, overall a very good bike.
00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:10.830
Tim Clarke: It was geared down.
00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:15.630
Tim Clarke: So it wanted to wheelie all the time, which was kind of fun.
00:47:16.190 --> 00:47:21.270
Tim Clarke: Um, but yeah, the, that gen one with the air management was just horrible.
00:47:21.410 --> 00:47:27.970
Tim Clarke: It would go from anywhere from mildly annoying to, I can't quite see cause my head is being shaken so badly.
00:47:28.410 --> 00:47:29.030
Travis Burleson: Oh yeah.
00:47:29.070 --> 00:47:31.570
Tim Clarke: And, uh, I tried everything.
00:47:31.630 --> 00:47:33.450
Tim Clarke: I, I put it on extensions.
00:47:33.450 --> 00:47:34.930
Tim Clarke: I put it on spacers.
00:47:35.010 --> 00:47:36.370
Tim Clarke: I changed the angle.
00:47:36.450 --> 00:47:37.790
Tim Clarke: I cut it down.
00:47:37.890 --> 00:47:41.130
Tim Clarke: It just like, the whole thing just, I didn't mesh with it.
00:47:41.310 --> 00:47:46.730
Robin Dean: And Tim, you haven't met Ringer yet, but you guys would get along perfectly cause you guys are both badasses in that realm.
00:47:47.110 --> 00:47:54.810
Robin Dean: But Ringer just walked up one day, he had the, he had the first 1000 and he's rolled up to his windscreen and just ripped it off.
00:47:55.010 --> 00:47:57.630
Robin Dean: No wrenches, just, just I'm done.
00:47:57.910 --> 00:48:00.090
Robin Dean: And he's actually a mild mannered guy.
00:48:00.730 --> 00:48:03.170
Robin Dean: It was like, fuck this, I'm out.
00:48:03.430 --> 00:48:09.310
Travis Burleson: I remember riding cause to the way on the first gen, if you look at it, it was like built into the body work.
00:48:09.310 --> 00:48:12.070
Travis Burleson: So it kind of had this like U shaped scoop that became clear.
00:48:12.470 --> 00:48:15.810
Travis Burleson: And I remember riding with Ringer and he just, there was no windshield on it.
00:48:16.110 --> 00:48:20.010
Travis Burleson: And it, it's not like it, it doesn't look right without a windscreen.
00:48:20.150 --> 00:48:22.410
Travis Burleson: Like you can tell there's a chunk of plastic missing.
00:48:22.850 --> 00:48:29.730
Travis Burleson: There's supposed to be, it's not shaped in a way where, you know, the windshield can be removed and it still looks like it's supposed to be there.
00:48:30.650 --> 00:48:31.870
Tim Clarke: An open wound.
00:48:32.070 --> 00:48:32.370
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:48:32.410 --> 00:48:33.410
Travis Burleson: He was just riding with it.
00:48:33.470 --> 00:48:34.350
Travis Burleson: He's like, it's so much better.
00:48:34.470 --> 00:48:34.910
Travis Burleson: I was like, yeah, sure.
00:48:35.770 --> 00:48:40.950
Travis Burleson: So yeah, I have to say though, I think if I had the money to buy a brand new off the shelf bike, I'd probably still get the tracer.
00:48:41.330 --> 00:48:41.530
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:48:41.670 --> 00:48:41.850
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:48:41.990 --> 00:48:42.530
Travis Burleson: At this point.
00:48:42.630 --> 00:48:45.290
Travis Burleson: But you know, I just thought, I thought it looked good.
00:48:45.370 --> 00:48:51.350
Travis Burleson: The reviews seem like they're coming up pretty good and it's got the trash control and the cruise control and all the new motorbike stuff.
00:48:51.470 --> 00:48:52.770
Travis Burleson: So I thought it was pretty cool.
00:48:53.850 --> 00:48:54.770
Tim Clarke: That's a lot of new tech.
00:48:54.770 --> 00:48:57.110
Travis Burleson: Let's take a look at Tim's section here for new kit.
00:48:57.330 --> 00:49:00.770
Travis Burleson: What are we looking at for for gizmos and doodads there, Tim?
00:49:00.870 --> 00:49:01.510
Tim Clarke: All right.
00:49:01.550 --> 00:49:07.710
Tim Clarke: We're going to go pretty low tech on this for the first one is the 3M Scotchgard clear paint protection film.
00:49:07.990 --> 00:49:18.570
Tim Clarke: This is the heavy duty stuff that car manufacturers will put on your hood to protect your car paint from, you know, rock chips and door dings and things like that.
00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:28.470
Tim Clarke: And for probably the last four or five bikes, I've been putting it on my gas tanks because I've been using the strap down tank bag.
00:49:28.850 --> 00:49:42.550
Tim Clarke: So what happens is it, you know, if you ride it off road or on even dirt, dirty gravel roads, like I tend to do, there'll be a little bit of dust and grime that'll build up underneath the tank bag and it'll rub into your paint finish.
00:49:43.070 --> 00:49:46.810
Tim Clarke: So I put these on the tank and you don't have it.
00:49:46.950 --> 00:50:00.410
Tim Clarke: And when you, you know, like me, if you're like me and decide you need a different bike every year, then, you know, protecting a little bit of the resale is a good idea.
00:50:00.410 --> 00:50:21.750
Tim Clarke: So I, instead of doing a strap down tank bag this year, I have the strap down Mosco Moto, um, reckless bag on the back of my Husky and it's gonna, so I just put this down on some of the contact points to keep that from rubbing in and damaging the plastics.
00:50:22.250 --> 00:50:22.350
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:50:22.350 --> 00:50:24.350
Travis Burleson: Well too, the Husky's got a tank rack.
00:50:24.990 --> 00:50:25.550
Robin Dean: Yeah.
00:50:25.770 --> 00:50:27.550
Travis Burleson: Which you've modified to make out of metal.
00:50:27.550 --> 00:50:28.270
Robin Dean: Yes.
00:50:28.490 --> 00:50:30.010
Robin Dean: It looks bad-ass man.
00:50:30.910 --> 00:50:33.930
Robin Dean: That little bike looks like it could fight the Hulk.
00:50:34.310 --> 00:50:36.550
Travis Burleson: It is a Mad Max, it's a little Mad Max machine.
00:50:37.070 --> 00:50:37.290
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:50:37.630 --> 00:50:39.470
Tim Clarke: It's, it's, it's a fun little bike.
00:50:39.550 --> 00:50:40.770
Tim Clarke: I really get a kick out of it.
00:50:41.370 --> 00:50:44.890
Tim Clarke: So, so that is the, the main modification kit.
00:50:45.050 --> 00:50:49.230
Tim Clarke: And it's kind of been a slow year for kit it seems like along with everything else.
00:50:49.610 --> 00:51:02.910
Travis Burleson: I've put some of that 3M on parts of my bike too, like yeah, like where the tank bag or like right where like the zipper rub is, like, uh, like right in the crotchal region of the gas tank where like your pants like the rub on it.
00:51:03.270 --> 00:51:04.630
Travis Burleson: Um, just cause might as well.
00:51:04.750 --> 00:51:06.830
Travis Burleson: It's pretty easy to put it on and it protects it.
00:51:07.030 --> 00:51:11.650
Travis Burleson: And then, yeah, once it gets, if it gets janky looking, you just peel it off and stick some clean stuff on.
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:12.490
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:14.210
Tim Clarke: So much better than repainting.
00:51:14.910 --> 00:51:15.310
Tim Clarke: So.
00:51:15.730 --> 00:51:15.870
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:51:15.890 --> 00:51:18.130
Travis Burleson: Or if you use a magnetic tank bag, it's really helpful too.
00:51:18.170 --> 00:51:21.070
Travis Burleson: Cause right where the magnets grip, it'll start to eat through the paint.
00:51:21.470 --> 00:51:21.730
Tim Clarke: Yep.
00:51:22.010 --> 00:51:22.230
Tim Clarke: Yep.
00:51:22.690 --> 00:51:22.930
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:51:22.930 --> 00:51:23.690
Tim Clarke: Same kind of thing.
00:51:23.750 --> 00:51:28.590
Tim Clarke: There's, there's always that little bit of dust and grime that will rip into the clear coat.
00:51:28.910 --> 00:51:29.010
Tim Clarke: All right.
00:51:29.110 --> 00:51:33.410
Tim Clarke: And then the next thing is, um, the Klim Marrakesh pants.
00:51:34.050 --> 00:51:36.570
Tim Clarke: I am taking a gamble on these.
00:51:36.650 --> 00:51:48.850
Tim Clarke: I haven't seen anyone actually riding in these, but I'm been looking for new warm weather pants that are not bright blue warm weather pants, which you know, it's there.
00:51:48.970 --> 00:51:53.870
Tim Clarke: They're just, they've been, I've had this same pair of like mesh pants from Klim.
00:51:54.050 --> 00:52:00.150
Tim Clarke: The old like first generation, uh, Mojave pants, they're a dual sport off-road pant.
00:52:00.250 --> 00:52:04.610
Tim Clarke: And I have had them for six or seven years now.
00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:15.570
Tim Clarke: And they're, I'm not wearing them out, you know, except for like one cut and then where my old knee guards cut, cut through the pants on a crash that, you know, broke my scapula.
00:52:15.730 --> 00:52:16.810
Tim Clarke: But the pants are fine.
00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:17.950
Travis Burleson: Of course.
00:52:18.350 --> 00:52:18.850
Travis Burleson: Um.
00:52:18.990 --> 00:52:20.490
Travis Burleson: Should I have the pants on your scapula?
00:52:20.890 --> 00:52:21.430
Tim Clarke: I know.
00:52:21.650 --> 00:52:21.890
Tim Clarke: I know.
00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:31.330
Tim Clarke: You know, it was one of those flukes where the front end washed out on me and a rock just found the gap between my shoulder pad and my back pad and clipped my scapula.
00:52:31.710 --> 00:52:40.250
Tim Clarke: So the Marrakesh pants, these are the newest generation of mesh supposed to be extremely high abrasion resistance.
00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:47.030
Tim Clarke: And it's not, it's mostly just like an open weave and it's supposed to flow a lot of air and they're not bright blue.
00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:47.730
Tim Clarke: So.
00:52:47.730 --> 00:52:50.970
Travis Burleson: So they'll, they'll keep, they'll, they'll keep your four terabytes below the waist.
00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:52.170
Travis Burleson: Uh, nice and cool.
00:52:52.250 --> 00:52:52.730
Travis Burleson: Should be.
00:52:52.990 --> 00:52:53.310
Tim Clarke: Should be.
00:52:54.930 --> 00:52:55.330
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:52:55.490 --> 00:52:59.150
Tim Clarke: So we'll, we'll find out if they actually get here in time for the trip.
00:52:59.210 --> 00:53:06.290
Tim Clarke: I'll have a good chance, you know, a good solid week to test them out and hopefully not crash test them or anything silly like that, but.
00:53:06.390 --> 00:53:06.850
Tim Clarke: Let's not.
00:53:07.210 --> 00:53:07.390
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:17.890
Tim Clarke: So yeah, this is, uh, I'm always interested in like these mesh products that are getting stronger and stronger all the time with some new materials.
00:53:18.490 --> 00:53:22.130
Robin Dean: Well, once they discovered that they could make stuff out of the fire hose material, that was a big deal.
00:53:22.710 --> 00:53:27.590
Robin Dean: If they weave it like that, it's like, that's that the near it bone will break before it will tear.
00:53:27.930 --> 00:53:30.630
Robin Dean: So that's, uh, then that's a good thing, believe it or not.
00:53:30.750 --> 00:53:32.030
Robin Dean: That's a really good thing.
00:53:33.210 --> 00:53:44.670
Tim Clarke: The idea that like, you can have a four second slide on a mesh and not have it disintegrate because it's like most of the old school meshes, you know, they, they were just toast.
00:53:44.770 --> 00:53:47.630
Tim Clarke: As soon as you hit the ground, there were no better than wearing blue jeans.
00:53:48.070 --> 00:53:48.470
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
00:53:48.510 --> 00:53:59.570
Robin Dean: If you want to see an example of how this stuff works and without sealing the gore of a crash, just go to YouTube and look up a fire hose, like how they, uh, prime fire hoses for a fire.
00:53:59.750 --> 00:54:02.210
Robin Dean: And they're all wrapped up and then they just fire all this water through them.
00:54:02.210 --> 00:54:08.270
Robin Dean: And they just expand outward and bang on everything around them and just no damage to the hose at all.
00:54:08.370 --> 00:54:09.470
Robin Dean: It's that's kind of the idea.
00:54:09.910 --> 00:54:10.690
Robin Dean: Um, anyhow.
00:54:10.790 --> 00:54:10.910
Robin Dean: Yep.
00:54:11.150 --> 00:54:11.310
Tim Clarke: Yep.
00:54:11.310 --> 00:54:13.270
Tim Clarke: So that's the, that's the kit.
00:54:13.410 --> 00:54:15.030
Tim Clarke: Now it's, you know, it's been a slow year.
00:54:15.130 --> 00:54:21.570
Tim Clarke: There's been a lot of things that come out, but they've been just kind of evolution, not a whole lot of revolution from what I've seen.
00:54:21.990 --> 00:54:22.110
Robin Dean: Yeah.
00:54:22.490 --> 00:54:27.890
Tim Clarke: So I'm going to go with the, uh, the straight up things I know and I've been using for years.
00:54:28.050 --> 00:54:30.210
Tim Clarke: So Robin, you're up.
00:54:30.850 --> 00:54:32.970
Tim Clarke: What article are we reading this episode?
00:54:33.770 --> 00:54:34.370
Tim Clarke: All right.
00:54:34.530 --> 00:54:38.110
Robin Dean: This, this one's a quickie or at least it can be.
00:54:38.110 --> 00:54:44.570
Robin Dean: It's safe, efficient tire bead breaking the best, easiest, fastest, safest way to break a motorcycle tire bead.
00:54:45.090 --> 00:54:51.850
Robin Dean: Uh, this article is read is brought to you by riding solutions, helping people become motorcyclists and motorcyclists ride better.
00:54:52.090 --> 00:54:54.310
Robin Dean: Be safe while having a great time riding the open road.
00:54:54.410 --> 00:54:57.050
Robin Dean: Visit them online at riding solutions.com.
00:54:57.270 --> 00:54:59.330
Robin Dean: So this article is another one by Brian Ringer.
00:54:59.410 --> 00:55:02.850
Robin Dean: I don't think we've ever written, read anything but Brian Ringer articles.
00:55:03.490 --> 00:55:04.910
Travis Burleson: So they're the most entertaining.
00:55:05.190 --> 00:55:06.370
Robin Dean: They are the most entertaining, right?
00:55:06.630 --> 00:55:06.810
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
00:55:07.490 --> 00:55:09.490
Robin Dean: So safe, efficient tire bead breaking.
00:55:09.790 --> 00:55:21.290
Robin Dean: You can break any motorcycle tire bead quickly with three short tire irons with no damage to the tire or rim, no excessive force, no jumping, and no farting around with kickstands, giant levers, titanic forces or disaster.
00:55:21.690 --> 00:55:25.470
Robin Dean: This works on any tire tubed or tubeless car or motorcycle.
00:55:25.810 --> 00:55:27.010
Robin Dean: Let's break a tire bead.
00:55:27.850 --> 00:55:35.510
Travis Burleson: Number one, deflate the tire completely if it hasn't already been handled for you by, um, external factors.
00:55:37.430 --> 00:55:49.230
Tim Clarke: Number two, stick the small curved tip of one tire iron between the tire bead and the rim with the curve at the tip facing up, wiggle and weasel it in there until the tip is touching the rim or as close as you can get.
00:55:49.610 --> 00:55:51.410
Tim Clarke: Number three, about two inches away.
00:55:51.490 --> 00:55:53.030
Travis Burleson: Do the same with tire iron number two.
00:55:53.390 --> 00:55:57.670
Travis Burleson: Number four, with one hand, push down on both irons.
00:55:58.030 --> 00:56:03.770
Tim Clarke: Number five, take tire iron number three in your other hand, turn the tip so it's facing down.
00:56:04.170 --> 00:56:10.330
Tim Clarke: Then weasel it into the middle between the two, between the other two tire irons.
00:56:10.530 --> 00:56:12.590
Tim Clarke: Yes, this is a little awkward.
00:56:13.050 --> 00:56:16.710
Robin Dean: Six, work the tip of the third tire iron in as far as you can.
00:56:16.950 --> 00:56:17.790
Robin Dean: That's what she said.
00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:27.830
Robin Dean: The idea is to use the tip to dig into the rubber a bit to push the tire bead down by pulling up on this tire iron while pushing down on the other two.
00:56:28.750 --> 00:56:36.130
Travis Burleson: After some pushing and wiggling, you'll get a little motion, which you normally won't completely break the bead on the first push.
00:56:37.070 --> 00:56:40.550
Tim Clarke: Number eight, move a few inches to one side and repeat the procedure.
00:56:40.950 --> 00:56:42.250
Tim Clarke: And you'll get a little more motion.
00:56:42.710 --> 00:56:50.550
Robin Dean: Number nine, if the tire bead hasn't broken at that point, move a few inches to the other side of your original tire bead attack spot and try a third time.
00:56:51.130 --> 00:56:53.650
Travis Burleson: And number 10 and this is the most important step.
00:56:54.250 --> 00:56:57.490
Travis Burleson: Enjoy all the astonished looks around your success.
00:56:57.990 --> 00:56:58.830
Tim Clarke: Oh yes.
00:56:59.010 --> 00:57:06.990
Tim Clarke: Cause if you're riding with friends like mine, they're just gonna stand around and watch you work and sweat and go, that looks hard.
00:57:08.970 --> 00:57:09.610
Robin Dean: All right.
00:57:09.630 --> 00:57:10.590
Robin Dean: It's in the details.
00:57:11.210 --> 00:57:15.150
Robin Dean: Once you get a little experience with this trick, it's faster than just about anything else.
00:57:15.390 --> 00:57:17.610
Robin Dean: It's also possible to damage the inside of the rim slightly.
00:57:17.710 --> 00:57:20.450
Robin Dean: The first few run throughs by weaseling too enthusiastically.
00:57:20.810 --> 00:57:22.930
Robin Dean: So take it easy and don't get in a hurry.
00:57:23.110 --> 00:57:24.770
Robin Dean: Move a few inches and repeat.
00:57:24.770 --> 00:57:30.070
Travis Burleson: Even the crustiest most stuck on tire bead will start moving.
00:57:30.810 --> 00:57:34.610
Tim Clarke: The tire irons I prefer are sold under a few different names.
00:57:35.130 --> 00:57:43.530
Tim Clarke: The ones I have marketed, the ones I have are marketed by Rocky mountain ATV MC under the Tusk name and are extremely strong and slim.
00:57:43.830 --> 00:57:46.770
Tim Clarke: The tips are nice and smooth so they don't damage tire rims.
00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:49.050
Tim Clarke: So they don't damage rims or tires.
00:57:49.450 --> 00:57:51.670
Tim Clarke: You can change any tire with three of these.
00:57:51.670 --> 00:58:00.830
Robin Dean: The motion pro tool works on the exact same principle, but it costs more and is more bulky and heavy than three short tire irons.
00:58:01.370 --> 00:58:03.870
Travis Burleson: Is that the motion pro tool that Tim has in his tool pack?
00:58:04.430 --> 00:58:05.030
Travis Burleson: That is indeed.
00:58:05.370 --> 00:58:11.790
Tim Clarke: And I think I might disagree with Brian on the, the bulk and weight.
00:58:11.950 --> 00:58:13.530
Tim Clarke: I don't think they're all that bad.
00:58:13.570 --> 00:58:17.610
Tim Clarke: And I get by with a lot of times just those two and not using three.
00:58:18.330 --> 00:58:18.870
Travis Burleson: Yeah, they are.
00:58:18.930 --> 00:58:21.270
Travis Burleson: They are longer than the other ones he's linking to.
00:58:21.270 --> 00:58:28.310
Travis Burleson: So I guess if that, if that is a concern in your packing, but what motorcycle tire change tricks do you employ?
00:58:28.470 --> 00:58:30.690
Robin Dean: There are a number of known techniques for changing a motorcycle tire.
00:58:30.870 --> 00:58:31.630
Robin Dean: Which ones do you prefer?
00:58:31.870 --> 00:58:33.210
Robin Dean: What do you like about each and why?
00:58:33.390 --> 00:58:34.290
Robin Dean: Your input is invited.
00:58:34.930 --> 00:58:37.810
Robin Dean: Post an article at the riding obsession dot cam.
00:58:38.370 --> 00:58:41.550
Travis Burleson: What I like to do is like, wait for a semi to roll by.
00:58:41.590 --> 00:58:46.490
Travis Burleson: And then like when he's not looking, throw, throw the tire, but just right.
00:58:46.570 --> 00:58:50.110
Travis Burleson: So it's like clips just the rubber and then it'll pop the beat.
00:58:50.150 --> 00:58:50.610
Travis Burleson: No problem.
00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:51.210
Travis Burleson: Works every time.
00:58:51.370 --> 00:58:51.830
Robin Dean: No risk at all.
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:55.460
Travis Burleson: Don't do that at home.
00:58:58.150 --> 00:59:02.230
Travis Burleson: And that brings us to updated site features and development.
00:59:03.090 --> 00:59:06.870
Travis Burleson: We've partnered with twisted road.com to offer motorcycle rentals.
00:59:07.150 --> 00:59:11.790
Travis Burleson: Visit the site mouse over digi tools and click motorcycles for rent.
00:59:11.890 --> 00:59:19.530
Travis Burleson: There's also a pop-up that'll come up when you first log on to the riding obsession.com the search form lets you find rentals near you or wherever you're traveling to.
00:59:19.650 --> 00:59:25.530
Travis Burleson: And this new feature is already integrated into our group tours mentioning and linking to bikes.
00:59:26.010 --> 00:59:28.230
Travis Burleson: You can rent near any given tourist start point.
00:59:28.450 --> 00:59:29.410
Travis Burleson: Actually, that gives me an idea.
00:59:29.590 --> 00:59:38.950
Travis Burleson: I'll ask their API guy or if he can let him filter specific dates to match the tour schedule so that only bikes available on those dates are shown.
00:59:39.270 --> 00:59:42.890
Robin Dean: Once I'm not so lazy and then the code overhaul is going well enough.
00:59:43.270 --> 00:59:51.090
Robin Dean: Our group motorcycle tour page has seen several updates, not just with an information rentals, but also the ability to share rooms during a tour, which lowers the price.
00:59:51.290 --> 00:59:54.410
Robin Dean: This isn't a guaranteed option since we travel in odd numbers, but you get the point.
00:59:55.630 --> 01:00:00.670
Robin Dean: Uh, a link to, oh, we have a link to our testimonials on the tours page.
01:00:00.870 --> 01:00:01.030
Robin Dean: Read them.
01:00:02.010 --> 01:00:04.390
Robin Dean: Uh, there's a skills meter on each tour, one to five stars.
01:00:04.750 --> 01:00:05.950
Robin Dean: And I don't, I don't have it.
01:00:06.230 --> 01:00:11.610
Robin Dean: Um, there's the skills meter, one to five stars for a balanced take on what kind of writing is involved for any given tour.
01:00:11.690 --> 01:00:14.950
Robin Dean: Like our LMCT is only like two stars in difficulty because we modified it.
01:00:15.310 --> 01:00:17.050
Robin Dean: Let's see for any tour that is sold out.
01:00:17.130 --> 01:00:18.950
Robin Dean: We now offer wait list registration.
01:00:19.170 --> 01:00:20.090
Robin Dean: Sometimes people cancel.
01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:21.390
Robin Dean: It happens when it does.
01:00:21.530 --> 01:00:22.310
Robin Dean: Others now profit.
01:00:22.310 --> 01:00:23.630
Robin Dean: Trip sevens is one example.
01:00:23.790 --> 01:00:26.830
Robin Dean: If you want to go get on a wait list or the, uh, Lake Michigan circle tour.
01:00:27.150 --> 01:00:31.690
Robin Dean: Uh, lastly, the podcast pages are, are become, what did I write here?
01:00:31.890 --> 01:00:37.270
Robin Dean: Last, lastly, the podcast pages are a lot more automated, which makes my life easier.
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Robin Dean: No, it doesn't work anymore.
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Robin Dean: So I have to fix that crap.
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Robin Dean: All right.
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Robin Dean: So a lot of the podcast material is automatically generated.
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Robin Dean: Yay.
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Robin Dean: Easier content.
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Robin Dean: Uh, you can now write for TRO from just about any page, have the bottom of the homepage category pages and articles sits a link that you can click to publish a sport touring motorcycle article on our server.
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Robin Dean: Have at it.
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Robin Dean: We need content.
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Robin Dean: We would love to have yours.
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Robin Dean: And that, uh, Oh yeah.
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Robin Dean: Now we're looking at listener questions.
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Robin Dean: Trav.
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Travis Burleson: William O Yates writes in, I really like the single rail folding trailer from Northern tool.
01:01:15.830 --> 01:01:17.390
Travis Burleson: They no longer listed on their site.
01:01:17.450 --> 01:01:20.170
Travis Burleson: Searching the web, a thousand results pop up.
01:01:20.270 --> 01:01:21.470
Travis Burleson: I spent hours looking.
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Travis Burleson: Does anybody know where to find the same trailer?
01:01:25.170 --> 01:01:26.010
Robin Dean: No, no.
01:01:26.110 --> 01:01:27.010
Robin Dean: I've already done this.
01:01:27.750 --> 01:01:32.790
Robin Dean: So yeah, there's a, there's a Chinese knockoff version and now I know why they pulled it.
01:01:32.930 --> 01:01:34.310
Robin Dean: It's because of some safety factors.
01:01:34.430 --> 01:01:45.750
Travis Burleson: The suspension was crap and the Chinese version, I mean probably fine for like going across town and picking up a, picking up a bike from Craigslist, but I wouldn't haul your bike across the country with it.
01:01:45.770 --> 01:01:45.930
Travis Burleson: Right?
01:01:46.030 --> 01:01:46.370
Robin Dean: No.
01:01:46.370 --> 01:01:52.070
Robin Dean: And in the Chinese version doesn't even have any suspension and is just a total piece of junk.
01:01:52.230 --> 01:01:54.510
Robin Dean: So, um, they do.
01:01:54.650 --> 01:02:01.190
Robin Dean: However, Northern tools next to the next one up, which I think is for two bikes is significantly better.
01:02:01.290 --> 01:02:02.710
Robin Dean: It's designed for you to plank it with plywood.
01:02:02.990 --> 01:02:05.110
Robin Dean: It has a spring coil suspend.
01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:05.570
Robin Dean: It's good.
01:02:05.810 --> 01:02:10.650
Travis Burleson: Oh, that's just, that's just the regular, it's not, is that just the eight foot four by eight foot folding aluminum utility?
01:02:10.950 --> 01:02:11.050
Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:02:11.070 --> 01:02:15.350
Travis Burleson: So it's not designed for bikes necessarily, but you can, it is a trailer platform.
01:02:15.510 --> 01:02:16.650
Travis Burleson: It's like 550 bucks.
01:02:16.910 --> 01:02:17.010
Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:02:17.050 --> 01:02:18.470
Robin Dean: And by itself, it's three times better.
01:02:18.810 --> 01:02:18.990
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:25.870
Travis Burleson: So you can put some thick, you know, one inch ply down on it, bolt some wheel chocks to it and go with that.
01:02:25.890 --> 01:02:35.210
Travis Burleson: Or there's like, if you look up, if you just Google like single rail motorcycle trailer, like the Kendon one, which is kind of expensive, it's like three grand, but those are really good.
01:02:35.510 --> 01:02:40.330
Travis Burleson: USA trailer has a similar one for like 19 to two grand.
01:02:40.350 --> 01:02:42.550
Travis Burleson: And those have like the diamond plate like platforms.
01:02:42.550 --> 01:02:44.130
Travis Burleson: They aren't just the little rail.
01:02:44.290 --> 01:02:46.290
Travis Burleson: I mean, you get, you kind of get what you pay for.
01:02:46.810 --> 01:02:48.290
Travis Burleson: Um, they're going to be a little better.
01:02:48.590 --> 01:03:10.070
Travis Burleson: I've there was that, um, motorcycle.com with, uh, Aerie and Zach before they went over to Motor Trend and maybe RevZilla now, I don't know what they're working for, where they got like the really cheap Harbor Freight folding ones and, and rigged them up for motorcycles, put dirt bikes on them, then haul the dirt bikes with like a Goldwing and a Vulcan.
01:03:11.250 --> 01:03:18.330
Travis Burleson: Um, so they like hauled lightweight dirt bikes on these Harbor Freight trailers behind big, heavy, like cross-country tours.
01:03:18.910 --> 01:03:19.690
Travis Burleson: And it seemed to work.
01:03:20.130 --> 01:03:32.330
Travis Burleson: So, um, but again, those were like the folding, the blank canvas folding trailers and they had to put plywood down and secure everything and put wheel chocks and trap points for a motorcycle on them.
01:03:32.830 --> 01:03:35.610
Travis Burleson: Um, but yeah, those like little single rail guys.
01:03:35.990 --> 01:03:36.170
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:03:36.170 --> 01:03:36.830
Travis Burleson: They're hard to find.
01:03:36.850 --> 01:03:38.750
Travis Burleson: They're not, they're also just not great.
01:03:38.750 --> 01:03:51.110
Travis Burleson: Especially if you're doing any distance around town, like I said, it's fine, but I've also dealt with them and they're just hard to use because there's nowhere for you to stand while you're loading a bike, especially if you're loading a heavy bike, like a street bike.
01:03:51.190 --> 01:03:54.830
Travis Burleson: Like if it's a dirt bike, that's 250 pounds, you know, whatever.
01:03:55.210 --> 01:04:03.050
Travis Burleson: But if you're trying to put like a Goldwing on one or something or, you know, 500 pounds sport touring bike, you're going to have, you're going to have problems.
01:04:03.230 --> 01:04:14.270
Travis Burleson: So I would say look on Craigslist and see if you can find something that's a little more heavy duty, uh, you know, that you can afford or pony up the cash or something that's a little more heavy duty.
01:04:14.270 --> 01:04:23.130
Travis Burleson: Just cause you know, if you, if you want to fight, if you really want to trust your $10,000 motorcycle to a $500 trailer, you know, that's, that's up to you, I guess.
01:04:23.150 --> 01:04:24.490
Travis Burleson: But I just wouldn't recommend it.
01:04:24.790 --> 01:04:30.850
Travis Burleson: There's also U-Haul does rent a motorcycle specific hauling trailer that has like the rail and lockdown points.
01:04:30.910 --> 01:04:31.970
Travis Burleson: And it's not that much.
01:04:31.990 --> 01:04:38.990
Travis Burleson: So with how much you're going to use, I mean, unless you're really hauling a bike like every week or something somewhere, just rent the U-Haul for 50 bucks.
01:04:39.370 --> 01:04:39.510
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
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Tim Clarke: I did have the cheapo Harbor freight folding trailer at one time.
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Tim Clarke: And it's primarily strength was from the decking you bolt onto it.
01:04:49.190 --> 01:04:54.130
Tim Clarke: So I used like three quarter ply and it was still not quite enough.
01:04:54.330 --> 01:04:58.310
Tim Clarke: But the problem is you go with that thicker decking, it gets harder to fold.
01:04:59.270 --> 01:05:08.750
Tim Clarke: So like I've had friends who have bought them and like, instead of just bolting the trailer together, they've actually welded the joints together and gotten more rigidity that way.
01:05:09.590 --> 01:05:10.950
Travis Burleson: So you might be better off too.
01:05:11.030 --> 01:05:17.370
Travis Burleson: If you do get one of those folding trailers, like maybe try and get your hands on some like aluminum diamond plate or something like that.
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Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:05:18.250 --> 01:05:18.970
Robin Dean: I like it.
01:05:19.250 --> 01:05:19.730
Robin Dean: Okay.
01:05:19.810 --> 01:05:20.710
Robin Dean: So are you ready for the next one?
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Robin Dean: Okay.
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Robin Dean: So Rolando asks two questions.
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Robin Dean: The first question, I tried centering my sprockets on the chain.
01:05:26.650 --> 01:05:29.110
Robin Dean: Some teeth ended up to the left when looking underneath.
01:05:29.290 --> 01:05:29.990
Robin Dean: Is this normal?
01:05:30.310 --> 01:05:33.530
Robin Dean: My answer is underneath the sprocket, the chain becomes loose.
01:05:33.530 --> 01:05:36.190
Robin Dean: So the extra slack will have this effect.
01:05:36.250 --> 01:05:38.850
Robin Dean: It's nothing to worry about so long as the chain is properly adjusted.
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Robin Dean: See your manual.
01:05:41.510 --> 01:05:41.610
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:05:41.670 --> 01:05:44.150
Travis Burleson: There's also, you can go to cycle gear.
01:05:44.430 --> 01:05:47.330
Travis Burleson: I mean, there's a motion pro like chain alignment tool.
01:05:47.650 --> 01:05:50.570
Travis Burleson: And if you go to cycle gear, there's whatever they call their house brand.
01:05:50.710 --> 01:05:53.070
Travis Burleson: I forget now, um, same thing.
01:05:53.570 --> 01:05:55.230
Travis Burleson: No, it's their house tool brand.
01:05:55.570 --> 01:06:02.690
Travis Burleson: Um, I forget what they call it, but it's like, it's just like a little tiny, like micro C clamp with a steel rod on it.
01:06:02.750 --> 01:06:03.150
Robin Dean: Okay.
01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:05.650
Travis Burleson: And the clamp, the clamp clamps to your sprocket.
01:06:05.910 --> 01:06:07.850
Travis Burleson: And then the rod goes in and gives you a straight line.
01:06:08.190 --> 01:06:14.890
Travis Burleson: And then you just look down the rod and you look down your chain and you make sure the rod and the chain are going in a straight line with each other and you're good to go.
01:06:15.030 --> 01:06:17.210
Travis Burleson: It's like a 10, $15 tool.
01:06:17.530 --> 01:06:19.570
Travis Burleson: And that it just makes, it just makes life easier.
01:06:19.710 --> 01:06:25.230
Travis Burleson: Like you, there are tricks to like lining it up and you spin the tire and make sure that's the one I apply.
01:06:25.390 --> 01:06:26.630
Robin Dean: That's I just basically spin it.
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Robin Dean: If the teeth line up, I'm good.
01:06:28.350 --> 01:06:33.990
Travis Burleson: I just, I, I just use the tool because it saves me 10 minutes of digging with it.
01:06:34.590 --> 01:06:36.090
Travis Burleson: Every time you change the tire, you know?
01:06:36.410 --> 01:06:44.990
Travis Burleson: So yeah, I just recommend, I recommend go to cycle gear or go on Amazon or, you know, get the motion pro one if you want or get the off brand one.
01:06:45.410 --> 01:06:48.130
Travis Burleson: Um, it's just that little clamp with a steel rod.
01:06:48.590 --> 01:06:49.310
Travis Burleson: They're pretty cheap.
01:06:49.510 --> 01:06:55.450
Robin Dean: And I recommend that you don't do that and that you do it by sight using spinning the rear wheel, which Travis does not.
01:06:55.550 --> 01:06:56.350
Robin Dean: Tim, what about you?
01:06:56.350 --> 01:07:02.010
Tim Clarke: So I'm going to go at it from a little different angle where I am not like, I understand what he's trying to do.
01:07:02.070 --> 01:07:05.430
Tim Clarke: He's trying to minimize his wear on his chain and on his sprockets.
01:07:05.710 --> 01:07:07.830
Tim Clarke: I'm not that worried about that.
01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:14.130
Tim Clarke: Um, you're mostly going to worry about, you need to align your wheel with the frame.
01:07:14.410 --> 01:07:18.370
Tim Clarke: So I have used the, the little tool on the sprocket.
01:07:18.490 --> 01:07:19.170
Tim Clarke: That's pretty good.
01:07:19.470 --> 01:07:37.410
Tim Clarke: You can also go super low tech, just grab a string, you know, lay it along the sprocket, drag it along to the front of the bike and make sure it's aligned with the front sprocket because the chain is going to have a lot of, um, you know, in each link, there's that tiny little bit of play.
01:07:37.510 --> 01:07:41.070
Tim Clarke: It's going to add up that that chain can wander left to right quite a bit.
01:07:41.530 --> 01:07:48.250
Tim Clarke: And even in motion, it's going to give you a little, this, uh, a little bit of an illusion and it's not going to be super accurate.
01:07:48.690 --> 01:07:51.370
Robin Dean: So in summary, I think my idea is right.
01:07:51.390 --> 01:07:53.029
Robin Dean: And that Tim and Travis's are horrible.
01:07:53.029 --> 01:07:54.489
Robin Dean: Travis thinks his idea is right.
01:07:54.569 --> 01:07:56.050
Robin Dean: And then me and Tim's ideas are horrible.
01:07:56.170 --> 01:07:57.630
Robin Dean: Tim thinks his idea is right.
01:07:57.710 --> 01:07:59.270
Robin Dean: And that me and Travis's are horrible.
01:08:00.290 --> 01:08:03.770
Travis Burleson: So Rolando, Rolando asks, what kind of oil should I use?
01:08:05.270 --> 01:08:09.290
Tim Clarke: I'm also the kind of guy that doesn't mind replacing a chain every other year.
01:08:09.710 --> 01:08:10.850
Travis Burleson: Chains are cheap.
01:08:11.290 --> 01:08:12.870
Travis Burleson: Well, depending on the bike, I guess.
01:08:13.270 --> 01:08:14.350
Travis Burleson: Unless you're in the middle of Nebraska.
01:08:14.830 --> 01:08:18.050
Travis Burleson: Well, let's get to his next, his next question.
01:08:18.189 --> 01:08:19.590
Travis Burleson: And I have some input on here.
01:08:19.689 --> 01:08:20.149
Travis Burleson: It's related.
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Travis Burleson: Okay.
01:08:21.290 --> 01:08:26.910
Robin Dean: So his next question, are your sprocket teeth all centered from the point it makes contact with the chain?
01:08:27.470 --> 01:08:27.910
Robin Dean: Crazy thing.
01:08:28.029 --> 01:08:34.450
Robin Dean: I got most teeth centered while spinning the wheel, but the swing arm markings were almost two inches off or two notches, two notches.
01:08:34.989 --> 01:08:35.330
Robin Dean: Thank you.
01:08:35.450 --> 01:08:35.550
Travis Burleson: Yes.
01:08:36.109 --> 01:08:37.230
Robin Dean: My answer to this one.
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Robin Dean: They are for the most part, there's some minor deviation, but not much.
01:08:40.910 --> 01:08:44.609
Robin Dean: Basically make sure your chain is clean and in usable condition first.
01:08:44.689 --> 01:08:45.270
Robin Dean: Is it dirty?
01:08:45.710 --> 01:08:46.149
Robin Dean: Damaged?
01:08:46.189 --> 01:08:47.090
Robin Dean: Are there any kinks?
01:08:47.470 --> 01:08:48.330
Robin Dean: What about the sprocket?
01:08:48.330 --> 01:08:49.609
Robin Dean: Is it marred in any way?
01:08:49.730 --> 01:08:50.450
Robin Dean: Shark toothed?
01:08:50.689 --> 01:08:57.370
Robin Dean: Once I confirm that the chain and sprocket are in proper working order, then and only then do I assume my adjustments will be technically correct.
01:08:57.790 --> 01:09:06.850
Robin Dean: If the post adjustment setting seems odd afterward, it might be worth pulling an engine cover off to look at the front sprocket and be sure it's not shark toothed.
01:09:07.350 --> 01:09:08.069
Robin Dean: Travis, what do you think?
01:09:10.550 --> 01:09:12.410
Travis Burleson: So here's where it's tricky.
01:09:12.689 --> 01:09:14.310
Travis Burleson: What, what bike does he have?
01:09:14.330 --> 01:09:14.470
Travis Burleson: Right?
01:09:14.510 --> 01:09:16.149
Travis Burleson: And I don't have that information here.
01:09:16.510 --> 01:09:19.109
Travis Burleson: So like, I'm really confused.
01:09:19.410 --> 01:09:22.370
Travis Burleson: Air quotes, hair quotes, cheaper bikes.
01:09:23.170 --> 01:09:35.750
Travis Burleson: Um, so like my NC 700 X has like the super basic square tube swing arm with like the chintzy like adjuster chain tensioner things on it that are just so sloppy.
01:09:35.870 --> 01:09:37.490
Travis Burleson: Like the notches mean nothing.
01:09:37.710 --> 01:09:38.150
Robin Dean: They're not right.
01:09:38.330 --> 01:09:38.430
Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:09:38.550 --> 01:09:38.710
Travis Burleson: Really?
01:09:39.070 --> 01:09:40.770
Travis Burleson: The notches don't really mean anything.
01:09:40.950 --> 01:09:48.430
Travis Burleson: Um, and especially when you're tightening that axle, um, you know, one side turns, it's turning one way.
01:09:48.550 --> 01:09:50.310
Travis Burleson: The other side is turning the other way.
01:09:50.550 --> 01:09:57.550
Travis Burleson: So that the tension on the axle while you tighten it pulls the axle in different directions on the swing arm, right?
01:09:57.590 --> 01:10:04.870
Travis Burleson: It wants to, it wants to walk in opposite directions, which is why it kinks your wheel to one direction or the other.
01:10:04.910 --> 01:10:07.650
Travis Burleson: When you're trying to align your chain, once you tighten the axle down.
01:10:07.830 --> 01:10:16.570
Travis Burleson: Um, and it's always, I find it's always a pain then to adjust those chain tensioner stops because the one side is always kind of going the wrong way.
01:10:17.250 --> 01:10:20.730
Travis Burleson: Like it's not, you need, you actually need the chain tensioner to push and not pull.
01:10:20.790 --> 01:10:26.110
Travis Burleson: And you can't do that with the cheap basic setup on like a cheap Honda or an older bike.
01:10:26.410 --> 01:10:42.310
Travis Burleson: Um, as opposed to something that uses a, um, like an eccentric style, uh, axle adjuster or something where the actual axle adjuster is anchored into the swing arm and you're turning that screw.
01:10:42.310 --> 01:10:45.870
Travis Burleson: And it's very specifically moving the axle points.
01:10:45.990 --> 01:10:48.610
Robin Dean: Travis is basically saying be eccentric and get screwed.
01:10:49.550 --> 01:10:50.470
Travis Burleson: Tim, what about you?
01:10:50.670 --> 01:10:50.850
Travis Burleson: Sort of.
01:10:51.190 --> 01:10:57.870
Travis Burleson: So yeah, if it's, if it's the more basic style swing armor adjuster, I mean just don't even, I don't even use them.
01:10:57.950 --> 01:10:58.610
Travis Burleson: I just use a ruler.
01:10:59.470 --> 01:10:59.870
Tim Clarke: Nice.
01:11:00.070 --> 01:11:00.990
Tim Clarke: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:02.350 --> 01:11:02.750
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:11:02.750 --> 01:11:03.150
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:11:03.150 --> 01:11:11.470
Tim Clarke: I'd definitely say like, don't rely on the count on the adjuster, you know, like it's three marks on one side, five on the other.
01:11:11.550 --> 01:11:12.170
Tim Clarke: No big deal.
01:11:12.310 --> 01:11:17.970
Tim Clarke: If you've taken your time and you've gotten it aligned properly, um, you'll make note of it.
01:11:18.250 --> 01:11:33.390
Tim Clarke: Um, one of the things that I like to do is I will actually use some, uh, paint marker and I will mark a couple of the, uh, like, I'll mark some horizontal stripes on both the flats of the screw head and along the screw.
01:11:34.030 --> 01:11:37.570
Tim Clarke: And I'll do like red on one side, blue on the other.
01:11:37.850 --> 01:11:47.770
Tim Clarke: So that when I am doing a future adjustment, you know, you count how many flats you're turning it because you shouldn't have to, you know, rotate those screws very much.
01:11:47.810 --> 01:12:00.030
Tim Clarke: But once you know that like I've got this aligned, then from there you can, you know, make a controlled adjustment to both sides and you don't have to look at even, you know, think about that anymore.
01:12:00.150 --> 01:12:03.830
Tim Clarke: You just say I've moved it three flats on the left and move it three flats on the right.
01:12:03.910 --> 01:12:04.510
Tim Clarke: We're good.
01:12:05.170 --> 01:12:15.150
Travis Burleson: I'd say there's also like the string alignment method, which you can Google, um, which is kind of a pain in the butt, but it gives you it makes sure that your wheels are both perfectly aligned and that they're aligned with the frame.
01:12:15.190 --> 01:12:19.590
Robin Dean: I think if you combine all three answers, then, so I'm saying, make sure everything's cleaned up and tuned.
01:12:20.250 --> 01:12:25.410
Robin Dean: And then Travis saying make sure that you consider what is happening with the operation of each wrench as you adjust.
01:12:25.690 --> 01:12:27.810
Robin Dean: And we're all saying, ignore those notches.
01:12:28.210 --> 01:12:35.870
Robin Dean: And Tim saying, if you, if you maintain some record of the data, once everything's finite, you'll have a lot more, you know, it'll be ease of use in the future.
01:12:36.150 --> 01:12:37.290
Robin Dean: So very cool.
01:12:37.290 --> 01:12:37.810
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:12:38.230 --> 01:12:41.870
Tim Clarke: So I've had to very many times, you know, adjust out in the field.
01:12:42.370 --> 01:12:42.770
Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:12:42.950 --> 01:12:50.210
Tim Clarke: Um, my big 8,000 mile trip, I had a chain that was dying on me and I was adjusting the chain twice a day.
01:12:50.710 --> 01:12:51.330
Tim Clarke: Oh yeah.
01:12:51.370 --> 01:12:55.170
Tim Clarke: And I was like, I was turning that screw almost a full turn every day.
01:12:56.030 --> 01:12:57.370
Tim Clarke: It's turning into a bow and arrow.
01:12:57.590 --> 01:12:58.610
Tim Clarke: It was dying fast.
01:12:58.790 --> 01:12:58.910
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:12:59.990 --> 01:13:00.390
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:13:00.450 --> 01:13:03.150
Travis Burleson: Well, once they start, once they start to go, they, they go, right.
01:13:03.150 --> 01:13:03.950
Travis Burleson: Cause yep.
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Robin Dean: And with that, we're going to, we're going to slowly make our way out of this by going into, uh, we're gonna, everybody's going to pick one, right?
01:13:12.390 --> 01:13:17.310
Robin Dean: We're going to all pick one thing from T7 Poip and it's time for mess Alamodo.
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Robin Dean: Onto this week's mess Alamodo brought to you by the super slick, ultra bad-ass motorcycle mega posse of incredible power, power, power, power, power.
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Robin Dean: The super slick, ultra bad-ass motorcycle mega posse of incredible power, super slick, ultra bad-ass and incredibly powerful as a sidebar.
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Robin Dean: I'm going to pick, uh, let's see here.
01:13:56.370 --> 01:13:57.090
Robin Dean: Oh yeah, man.
01:13:57.330 --> 01:13:59.730
Robin Dean: A frigging dude from a much bigger operation than us.
01:14:00.150 --> 01:14:05.110
Robin Dean: Uh, Shaytree surgeon car goes rolling by while he's in the middle of doing a thing.
01:14:05.350 --> 01:14:06.410
Robin Dean: That was crazy.
01:14:06.810 --> 01:14:06.910
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:14:06.930 --> 01:14:12.450
Travis Burleson: They were just, uh, they were just stopped at like an intersection and there's like a backup from like construction or something.
01:14:12.550 --> 01:14:19.710
Travis Burleson: And then a guy tried to like swerve out and caught another guy in his like Kia Forte just started rolling down.
01:14:19.750 --> 01:14:21.010
Travis Burleson: Like he just caught it just right.
01:14:21.010 --> 01:14:26.050
Travis Burleson: Just make the car start rolling and rolled, uh, you know, side over side right by the motorcycles.
01:14:26.250 --> 01:14:28.470
Travis Burleson: It's, it's, it's a crazy catch.
01:14:28.770 --> 01:14:29.270
Travis Burleson: It's insane.
01:14:29.870 --> 01:14:30.210
Travis Burleson: Look it up.
01:14:30.430 --> 01:14:30.650
Robin Dean: Yeah.
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Robin Dean: Uh, who's next?
01:14:32.910 --> 01:14:33.630
Robin Dean: Take your pick.
01:14:33.910 --> 01:14:35.130
Travis Burleson: Oh, I'm going to look at it.
01:14:35.130 --> 01:14:36.250
Travis Burleson: I, so I posted this video.
01:14:36.490 --> 01:14:37.690
Travis Burleson: Uh, it's a great one to watch.
01:14:37.790 --> 01:14:41.510
Travis Burleson: Uh, she's actually like a revs, uh, revs, uh, a Revit brand.
01:14:41.630 --> 01:14:44.770
Travis Burleson: Um, she's sponsored by Revit, uh, itchy boots on.
01:14:44.950 --> 01:14:45.590
Travis Burleson: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:14:45.910 --> 01:14:48.070
Travis Burleson: Um, so it's just a Dutch, uh, Dutch woman.
01:14:48.070 --> 01:14:56.910
Travis Burleson: And she did her first season solo travel on Rellen field, uh, Himalaya all over India and Southeastern Asia.
01:14:56.930 --> 01:15:05.330
Travis Burleson: And then, uh, she was just starting a solo trip through the Americas where she was going from, um, Tierra del Fuego up to Alaska.
01:15:05.630 --> 01:15:07.090
Robin Dean: This is the video diary, right?
01:15:07.370 --> 01:15:08.190
Travis Burleson: Well, this is, yeah.
01:15:08.210 --> 01:15:15.270
Travis Burleson: So she was stuck in this little tiny village in Peru when the, uh, Corona virus, like lockdown started happening.
01:15:15.270 --> 01:15:20.570
Travis Burleson: And like, she was like a foreigner in this little village and they're like hunting her down.
01:15:20.790 --> 01:15:26.950
Travis Burleson: And like the, the, the mayor has to like make announcements that like, no, the foreigner in the village is not spreading the virus.
01:15:27.490 --> 01:15:36.190
Travis Burleson: Um, and she had to like, and like all the flights are like the, she had to get in touch with the Dutch embassy and like get on a special flight to get out of there.
01:15:36.190 --> 01:15:42.810
Travis Burleson: But then she needed to like, get her motorcycle ship back because like, she doesn't actually have like a home or anything.
01:15:42.810 --> 01:15:44.070
Travis Burleson: She just lives on her motorcycle.
01:15:44.370 --> 01:15:45.210
Travis Burleson: It's crazy.
01:15:45.290 --> 01:15:48.650
Travis Burleson: So check out, check out itchy boots on, uh, on YouTube.
01:15:48.810 --> 01:15:49.970
Travis Burleson: It's, it's, it's pretty amazing.
01:15:50.090 --> 01:15:52.150
Travis Burleson: Solo female motorcycle world traveler.
01:15:52.730 --> 01:15:53.550
Robin Dean: It's frigging awesome.
01:15:53.890 --> 01:15:54.650
Tim Clarke: Tim, what's your fave?
01:15:54.870 --> 01:16:00.950
Tim Clarke: I like the, uh, the guy who's him and his buddy is set up this, uh, big motocross jump.
01:16:01.090 --> 01:16:02.050
Tim Clarke: He's jumping.
01:16:02.350 --> 01:16:06.110
Tim Clarke: Looks like he's jumping into a pond and they set it up.
01:16:06.190 --> 01:16:12.570
Tim Clarke: So he catches fire as he leaves the ramp and he goes in way too hot and he misses the pond entirely.
01:16:12.950 --> 01:16:14.430
Tim Clarke: He jumps over the pod.
01:16:15.710 --> 01:16:16.190
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:16:16.450 --> 01:16:21.390
Tim Clarke: And this is like, he hits this thing going, I don't know, 60, maybe better.
01:16:22.310 --> 01:16:22.450
Robin Dean: Yeah.
01:16:22.570 --> 01:16:25.710
Tim Clarke: And he's, he, he covers a good 200 feet or better.
01:16:26.570 --> 01:16:27.350
Travis Burleson: Oh yeah.
01:16:27.390 --> 01:16:28.050
Travis Burleson: On fire.
01:16:28.150 --> 01:16:29.550
Travis Burleson: And then crashes into the sand.
01:16:29.930 --> 01:16:30.150
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:16:30.230 --> 01:16:31.830
Tim Clarke: On the, on the opposing bank.
01:16:32.810 --> 01:16:33.370
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:16:33.650 --> 01:16:34.190
Tim Clarke: Nice.
01:16:34.490 --> 01:16:34.990
Tim Clarke: Yeah.
01:16:35.170 --> 01:16:36.810
Tim Clarke: That was a bad choice.
01:16:37.510 --> 01:16:37.990
Travis Burleson: Yeah.
01:16:38.450 --> 01:16:39.570
Travis Burleson: Over overcooked it.
01:16:40.310 --> 01:16:41.130
Travis Burleson: Very cool.
01:16:41.450 --> 01:16:41.830
Robin Dean: All right.