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So I can't remember if he left in high school, but I had a friend, Tyler Weinberg, whose dad I think he was like a developer.
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Yes, very wealthy.
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So there'd be I was pretty close with him.
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So there'd be all these times where like his dad would, I don't know, be involved with the development of something.
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And then we would just he would like invite like three or four friends, and we would have like an all-access pass to that thing.
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So his dad was involved, I guess, in the development of ESPN zone.
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The one by the harbor.
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So it was like right when it opened, me and maybe me, him, and maybe three of our other friends, unlimited tokens, oh my god.
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Run around and do whatever we wanted.
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I'd never seen anything like ESPN Zone.
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Like that was my first time seeing like TVs on the urinals, too.
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Like, do you I don't know if you remember that.
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It had that.
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Yeah, I remember so early for that.
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Even though I was playing sports, I was like, it's still just cool conceptually, like the TVs on the urinals.
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The novelty of it.
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Yeah, and it just I don't know, it didn't look it.
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It it it felt, I think it to me like almost felt like there was sort of like a version of Disneyland that was closer to me.
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And even though the theme was sports, I guess, just the fact that there was a themed something with arcade games was enough for you.
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You could you could fight that internal drive to be repulsed by the fact that it was athletic based.
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Yeah, I guess it didn't matter to me at all.
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I feel like my my froggy voice is making me sound more emotional about this than I actually am.
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But a little bit.
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Yeah, I'm getting a little bit old.
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So I just want people to know I'm not crying about TVs on top of the year.
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It's okay if you were.
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It's okay if you were.
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So then prom comes and the after party is at ESPN zone, and I am so amped.
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And this is like after like, you know, birthday parties are happening there.
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Like, I just loved going anytime I went.
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Like, I just loved anytime I went there.
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And then I find out it's like not cool to like going there after prom.
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I was like, what was I like?
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Oh yeah.
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I mean, it just seemed like after prom everyone wanted to go to Zach at Alter's house and drink.
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And uh I was definitely yeah, I just was like, we do that every weekend.
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This is like an all access fast ESPN zone.
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I think we would get I think we had cards that were a hundred dollars, which like you couldn't spend that in well.
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But I think every kid got a hundred dollars.
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Um and I loved it.
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I I maybe there was like a certain hour where suddenly I was like, maybe we've been here for too long, but I think on the whole I just loved being there.
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But you who but were you doing stuff with other people and they weren't being resentful the whole time?
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Hmm.
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I think, let's see.
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Oh man.
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Okay, well, I remember this only furthers how excited I was.
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This was senior year, the story I'm about to tell, but this only furthers like how excited I was to go to ESPN zone.
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You know how there's like a million TV screens all over ESPN zone?
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Like every you can't look in a direction and not see like a sports game playing, right?
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So you're just like posted on the walls, you know, in every corner.
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There's even that room where there's like recliners and you can watch like do you remember this?
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There's like recliners, and there's like you know, 20 TV screens all playing different sports games, and there's there are number buttons on your chair that you can click into to say what TV you want the audio from.
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You don't remember that either, Chick?
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Dude, our our stories connected to ESPN zone are very different, and I promise you I was zero percent focused on anything that had to do with ESPN zone.
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All right, well I found that someone brought a copy of the senior movie into ESPN Zone.
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Oh my god.
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And suddenly, I mean if you're blasting in the urinals, if if if people are watching a fucking four and a half hour passion project in the urinals at ESPN zone, uh would you define the senior movie as a passion project?
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Were you passionate about making it?
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Yeah, but I think the passion project has the connotation of like it's just for me, right?
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I I then I completely stand by what I just said.
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What it could have been more for everybody.
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I think it was for you and everyone was like a nice was a nice bonus.
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Wait, is there is the perception?
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I love the senior movie.
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It's like one of my favorite things on this planet.
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The fact that it exists is incredible.
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But it must, yeah, I think it must have mostly been for you.
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Is this like a Shudder Island situation where like everyone was playing for Josh Happy?
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Exactly.
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I I I think so.
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I think you're I think you're your prisoner number 32 or whatever.
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Um anyway, well, it couldn't have been because someone who was not me had the I mean this would really like be some true Shutter Island type planning.
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Truman show stuff.
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Yeah, like, oh my god, let's play the senior movie on all the TV screens in ESPN zone.
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And it's like, I don't know if my ego did so.
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Did they do that?
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Yeah, how?
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How do they do that?
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This sounds like a dream you would have.
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Where to go?
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I mean, where to go holy shit.
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If this was first of all, if this was the first time that you lied or misremembered something in this show's history, that that's already huge.
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That's not something out.
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So you guys don't believe me, Adam.
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Do you believe me?
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I mean, it's not I yeah, I believe you.
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I believe you have this memory.
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That's not believable.
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Wow, that's that's even meaner than what I was gonna say.
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No, I do believe you.
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No, it seems crazy, but sure, yeah.
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If you're saying it, I believe you.
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I mean, why would you make that up?
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Right.
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But I yeah, that seems nuts.
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Um, so okay, so in your it it in your narrative, uh, then the movie starts playing everywhere.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And uh that was awesome.
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But are people like Josh, Josh, Josh, like are people like that's cut to the scene where they're exactly horroring you, they're horroring you throughout the ESPN zone.
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That's definitely what it felt like for sure.
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Um, so okay, so your story was a story of triumph, is what I'm hearing.
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Like your your ESPN zone story was as usual.
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You're the star of the show, you're the star of the night.
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So, okay, well, here's how I remember it.
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So this was my senior year.
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No, sorry, this is my junior year.
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See, I already I already fucked it up.
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This is my junior year.
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So um, so I and my friends were all mostly um like fret friendly, if you will, with a certain group of girl cohort friends in your in y'all's grade, if you will.
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And so um people are, you know, like guys in my grade are asking girls in in y'all's grade, uh, you know, mostly from that cohort.
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Um and I had a at the time had a crush on so uh so I asked her and she said yes.
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It was very exciting for me.
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Um and we did, I remember we did some pictures at my house.
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Like, like I think a bunch of there were a bunch of people that came over.
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And I think we did like pictures in my backyard.
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I think we went maybe somewhere else to do pictures somewhere else.
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Um so we're on the minibus, and I could already feel like the energy because it was clear to me, and it became like crystal clear, or I mean as crystal as it as clear gets once we got to prom that, and this was just my own naivete, like my thoughts about prom were like, oh, like this is like a date, right?
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Like in my mind, it's like it's a date.
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Is is something gonna happen?
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Probably not, but it but it's like say it again.
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In your mind, you thought this could lead to a relationship.
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I thought this could lead to a relationship, or at least a kiss or something, you know, like like small potatoes, small, very small stakes.
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But uh, you know, certainly from like a pop culture standpoint.
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What would not for knowing what I know now about you in high school, those were not small stakes for you.
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Yes, I'm sorry.
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Let me be very clear.
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At the time, I thought, oh, like this is I'm just gonna I'm gonna do everything.
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For sure at the time, I was just like, oh, this is where I become an adult.
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But now, like looking at it in perspective, I'm sure I was, I'm sure I thought, I'm sure deep down I was like, oh, like I will maybe I can, maybe we can kiss is probably what I legitimately thought.
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But I'm sure at the time I was just like, I don't know what's gonna happen, and the whole world is beautiful and amazing, and anything is possible with Hashem's help, just knowing where my my uh my beliefs and and things were at the time.
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So on the bus, I think that already started to shatter a little bit because it like was very clear that there were just sort of two general agendas going on.
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Like, now I can't speak to the other guys, I can speak to me, but like my agenda was more like, oh, like we're gonna hang out, we're gonna talk, we're gonna dance, yada yada yada.
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And I think that the girls had made some kind of either you know, overt or implicit pact that like the point of this was for them to hang out together because they had all been, you know, uh uh invited to something that they wouldn't have otherwise been able to go to.
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So for them, this was like a social event, normal, all normal stuff, but just like very competing agendas.
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Right.
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Um wasn't about the guy that brought them together.
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It wasn't about the guy, they were just a tool to get them a vessel.
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The man was a vessel.
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The man was a vessel.
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So we get there, and I basically don't see her for the rest of the night.
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Um, and so that was like pretty instantly a very sad just a prom, not even ESPN.
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This is just a prom.
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This is just a prom.
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This is just a prom, which makes, of course, the the ESPN zone piece of it way sadder.
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Um but so so prom was like in and of itself a pretty, a pretty miserable experience for me.
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Like I felt I was a very emotional little boy.
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So I just like sure, I'm sure I cried, I'm sure I was like very upset.
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I'm sure I hid in the bathroom.
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I couldn't tell you like vividly if I did those things, but knowing me, I did that at Bar Mitz all the time.
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So this is like what five years later, I'm sure I was still very much in my feelings.
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So uh yeah, so it was just like really hurtful for me.
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So um, yeah, so I ate pasta salad and I was pretty miserable.
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I didn't dance with anyone.
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I was I was so like classically conditioned to um like avoid dances with with girls just because I had had such an unbelievably traumatic like bar mitzvacircuit experience.
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Like, talk about I mean, this was essentially my Holocaust, but it's like you had to like imagine you have to endure your own personal hell every single weekend, sometimes twice for a year.
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It's like I can't think of anything more traumatizing to a young pre-pubescent into pubescent little boy.
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So we get on the bus, we like sit next to each other.
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I think I'm like, I'm sure, passive aggressive and resentful, but also like still like oh, maybe ESPN zone is where I turn it around.
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I was really an incredibly there's no dance, resilient.
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Yeah, exactly.
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There's no dance, and I maybe I teased this, maybe I teased this last time, but I really think that my actual thought was I mean, this is insane hearing it now, but I think my thought was if I can get her on the Star Wars ride, like that's why you did say that.
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What does that mean?
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So let me talk about that.
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So if you remember in the arcades, there was the Star Wars ride where two people sat in like a little box, and there was like, yeah, each of you had a controller, and there was like a level where you were in a TIE fighter, and there was a level or an X-Wing, whichever, and there was a level where you fought Darth Vader, there was a level where you were like in like a little pad or speed race or whatever, and you're in the jungle.
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It was like at every arcade ever.
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I'm sure, I'm sure they still, I'm sure it's still in arcades, but like that was my go-to game.
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And I was like, okay, it's like isolated.
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There's, I think there's like there can be little curtains on it, and it's just for two people.
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So I'm like, okay, I'm good at this game, I'm gonna impress her with my Star Wars skills.
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That's really cool.
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And we're gonna be in isolation, and so then I feel like, all right, like maybe this is where I could talk to her, like, you know, you know, spit non-existent game that I had.
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So uh, so we get there, and like we have one kind of conversation.
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Again, this is just how I remember it, when we get there, where where at that point, basically I was like, are we gonna hang out at all?
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Like, is that like are we are we gonna see each other at all for the rest of this night?
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And in the I'll I'm gonna give her a lot of credit.
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I think in the nicest way possible, she was like, I think I just want to hang out with my friends.
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And I was like, that's cool.
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I'll see you later.
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And then I'm pretty sure I went into the into the Espion zone bathroom and cried while watching your senior movie.
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They they kept they kept it playing.
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They kept it playing, even though it hadn't even been made yet.
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Um, so we did Espion Zone.
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It felt like probably five hours too long.
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I'm sure we were only there for two hours, but it felt like the rest of my life.
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I was already thinking about, oh my gosh, I have to return this tuxedo that like I didn't get to get have taken off me.
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And it was just like a very sad, sad night.
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And I remember afterwards I stayed the night at David Lips's house, and I remember talking to him about it.
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And he was he was cool.
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Like he was this is a friend of mine um at the time.
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But yeah, then then really I'm being serious.
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I ask her this if she ever comes on.
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I don't know if we ever really spoke again after that.
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Like, and I still had another year of high school with her.
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Um, so yes, ESPN zone I was not really focused on.
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I mean, I I definitely did play the Star Wars game, of course.
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That was my like sort of my uh alone, alone, of course, of course.
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Um and uh I just remember feeling like I I mean I definitely remember watching certainly like the grade above me was filled to the brim with hot guys and girls.
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I mean, like that was sausage nipples guy, that was sausage nipples grade, and so it was just a lot of talent walking around.
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Yeah, and I remember being like, oh my god, these people are just so attractive and they're all dating and everyone's super happy.
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And then even in my grade, like even the I will say, of all of the guys in my group that had taken girls in the grade below, I feel like some of the girls ended up like hanging out with the guys, or the guys were just like way more secure in themselves and didn't care.
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And I just remember thinking, like, boy, I wish I didn't care.
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I wish I didn't, I wish I didn't feel feelings about any of this.
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And uh it would have made it would have made the experience a lot easier for me.
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But it was definitely very sad.
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And then I mean, I this I the next year was also ESPN zone, but a way happier ESPN zone because I got rejected three times to prom one, two, three.
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Um, and so I went by myself and had a way better experience because I was just like, oh, I I am free and I hate women, and it was just a very like it was a very uh you know that was early in a positive rephrase.
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Yes, exactly.
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The seeds were planted, but that was a very traumatizing uh experience in its own right, and so so I yeah, I mean I I I wish I had died for sure at the time.
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Well, did I?
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I mean, this is poetic, what I'm about to say.
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Do you guys know my prom story?
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Yes, I'm on the other side of you're on the other side, you're on the other side.
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You dunked on you you you you like absolutely like the villain, like like right.
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I am yeah, like the story of that, I am the villain.
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It's just so perfect.
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But you're not the villain because you ended up with the girl and you ended up getting married and having a happy life together.
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So it was well for the for the show.
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I mean, I was late to asking Abby to prom, and the guy who asked her before me, I would say, huh, what's like a nice way to put this?
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Like, just looked like a stereotype.
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Josh is Josh Josh is about to dip right back into his villain arc with what with however he's gonna describe him.
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I mean, he just looked like a nerd.
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I don't know what else to say.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:40.960
I didn't really know him, but Abby was going with and then I swooped in, and then she was hanging out with me the rest of the night, and was nowhere to be seen.
00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:43.599
And it was the biggest.
00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.799
Maybe he was riding the Star Wars ride alone after that.
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I don't know.
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No, can I say something?
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I I knew Jo because he was in my grade.
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And you sir or no.
00:17:53.359 --> 00:18:01.440
To his cred you sir or no to his credit, he probably was completely fine because he had so much faith in Hashem.
00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:16.240
We have uh we have a story we need you to corroborate.
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So so here's the story.
00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.960
Josh remembers at your after prom dance at ESPN zone.
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Oh, that's where the shirt's from.
00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.319
I was incredible, the the shirt.
00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.880
It's yeah, you're this whole time I've been wearing an ESPN zone Baltimore shirt.
00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.200
I want you to know it's probably worth a lot of money.
00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:33.680
Yeah.
00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:44.240
So at ESPN Zone, Josh has a memory that every television at the joint was playing his senior movie.
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Do you remember that?
00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.680
Say the senior movie, please.
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It's yours.
00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:53.920
Um I actually think there were TVs that were playing the senior movie.
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I can't I can't say every, but I do believe that there were multiple TVs playing the senior movie.
00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:01.359
Very good.
00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:05.200
And that's not everyone can conclude on that here.
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Let's be clear.
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I I didn't necessarily see every TV.
00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:15.920
I don't remember if it was playing in the back or not.
00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:20.720
A great point.
00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:30.400
You're 100% validating my belief, which is that it could have been playing on every TV, but the chance of it playing on every TV is very unlikely.
00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:32.480
Josh swears by the idea of it.
00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.319
Oh it's not unlikely.
00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.920
It just I can only keep track of the TVs that maybe saw it on.
00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:38.880
I think it's true.
00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:44.079
I think you should try and bring on multiple people and find out if they have other TVs that they can say.
00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:48.799
Maybe someone used the restroom during the movie, which would host with Halila.
00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:54.160
God forbid someone would have the restroom while while this while this incredible production was happening.
00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:06.799
So just really quick, Ari, we had Jonathan Falk on.
00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:12.240
He confirmed that all the TVs upstairs in ESPN zone were playing the senior movie.
00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:27.039
I am fairly positive, and sure, you can always tell me I'm wrong, and somebody else might, but in my head, I have a very vivid memory of sitting in the half-circle booths down in where you could eat food, and they had the senior movie on the main screen.
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:32.720
I don't remember what was on all the other little TVs, but there was definitely the senior movie playing on those big screens.
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:33.519
Oh, no, no, no.
00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:35.440
Ari, Ari, you're not doing anything wrong.
00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:48.079
It's that Josh is so psychotically committed to the idea that every single television at ESPN zone was screening his movie that he will not for one second allow the argument that maybe it wasn't on every television.
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:50.319
Oh, it needs to be on every TV.
00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.119
I can definitely confirm that it was on the main TV.
00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:57.680
I don't remember, I think, but definitely they were on the TV downstairs for sure.
00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:58.400
All right, guys.
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I'm gonna go.
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Love you, buddy.
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I'll love you.
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Bye.
00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:11.039
Andrew.
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There he is.
00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:13.119
Hey, what's up, guys?
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Can you hear me?
00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:14.319
Okay.
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Andrew, do you remember sitting in class once with Josh, and Josh let a silent but deadly fart rip, and you turned to him and said, I'm gonna ruin you?
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:31.279
I I don't remember that specifically, but that sounds exactly like something I would say.
00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:48.720
No, the thing we actually did want you on for is you have a memory of ESPN zone?
00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:55.839
Yeah, I sure after prom and the senior movie played on like every TV.
00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:58.799
Do I have that memory?
00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.319
Weren't there like 30 TVs in just that one room.
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Yeah, but in my memory, it was playing on every single one of those.
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I remember playing, yeah, I remember it playing on all of those TVs.
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:16.960
Now, what I don't know is if it played in the urinal TVs.
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That's true.
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I want you on the mouth.
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I don't remember that it is the eternal in Christ.
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My brother in the Christ.
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Nobody checked that.
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I have shocked that young boys, that's the first thing you check.
00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:31.680
Right, right.
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What do you think?
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I know, and I have like the TVs being in the urinals, like I have a very like strong memory of when I was when I first saw those.
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:55.359
Like when I went with Tyler Weinberg, TSPN zone, in like it had to have been like fifth grade, and seeing those your TV urinals me and having my mind blown.
00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.319
Like I even like, oh my god, you can pee and watch TV.
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So you'd think like, since I had such a strong connection with those urinal TVs, you'd think I would have gone and checked if the senior movie played played on these TVs that had such significance in my childhood.
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:16.640
But maybe if the the senior movie was a little longer, someone would have been able to do it in time.
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.519
That's true.
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.880
Yeah, it is the one made problem with the senior movie.
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That was out so much.
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.759
Yeah, no, I I I can't believe nobody checked.
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:30.960
I'm sure somebody did.
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:35.279
I mean, I it was probably you probably was like, Solomon, go go check the journals.
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:37.519
And they were Solomon.
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:49.599
I also made a claim on our last episode that was sort of like bold that I don't think anyone in my grade did not like me.
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.880
And and um what do you think about that statement?
00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.000
And if you know of someone, we would love to I would love to hear about it.
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.640
I think you're probably right.
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:07.440
I don't think there's anyone that's like uh that Josh guy is a smug douche.
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.799
But uh, I do you think everyone liked you?
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.640
Like, oh, I really like Josh.
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.960
I think I I think I said no one did not like me.
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.119
I think those were my words.
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Not not everyone liked me because they were like people who I didn't really know so well.
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:38.960
So how could they there's always I feel like there's always somebody that you wronged once that was Jake and I that was our when it comes from hot andrew, it lands on him, but when it comes from me, and I say the same exactly.
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:40.000
No, I believed you.
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.160
I no, I was saying like I'm insane.
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:43.119
No, I believed you.
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:52.160
I was saying, like, I could see me kind of like like to uh like a j or whatever, like that's exactly what I was thinking, right?
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.200
Yeah, like passing him by in the hallway and be like, hey buddy, how's it going?
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.440
And then just like keep walking, right?
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.200
So like yeah, yeah, I can see that also.
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.400
Um there's there has there's always somebody.
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.079
Yeah, there's always somebody.
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:21.519
We are trying to find that one person to talk to them, and we did actually start a hotline that people can call into if they have any reports of people they think did not like me.
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.519
All right, well, let's just end it.
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.960
Um wow, okay.
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:28.880
Actually, I I know how to end this.
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:29.839
I know how to end it.
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:31.119
Okay, go ahead.
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.400
Uh, I've always and Andrew, you're please play along.
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:34.720
Okay.
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:53.920
I've been uh meaning to like bring play a game on the show where I play the SNL music, like the opening SNL music, and we all go around being Don Pardo, and we have to say a name of a person who who taught at BT.
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.759
So like instead of saying like Keenan Thompson, you say Mrs.
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:00.559
Allen.
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:06.000
Oh and uh but Adam has no memory for anything.
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.680
So he's just allowed to say anything BT related.
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.440
Okay, Yarmakas.
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.279
Yeah, like even that is.
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.000
Okay, let's start with how should we do the order?
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.240
Are we all looking at the same squares right now?
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.079
To me, it goes Adam, Josh, Jake, Andrew.
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:32.559
That's not how mine goes.
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.240
That's not how mine is in Adam.
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.799
All right, well, should we can we do it in that order?
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:39.440
Adam, Josh, Jake, Andrew.
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:40.000
Okay, sure.
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.880
Now that works.
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.480
I don't want to go first.
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.079
Yeah, Adam has to go first.
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.559
Adam, you get just saying, just lead us off by literally saying Beth to fila.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.559
You can just lead us off by saying Bethtophilla.
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:53.039
Okay.
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:53.839
Great.
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.400
All right, three, two, one.
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Beth to fila.
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:08.400
Mrs.
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.440
Allen, Dr.
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.920
Chase, Mrs.
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:15.519
Weisenfreund.
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.440
Obviously, Adam is either.
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.279
I never took one round.
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:24.240
No, no, no, no.
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:25.279
Yeah.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:26.160
Oh, what?
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:26.960
That's not a game.
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:28.000
Where am I, Adam?
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:28.880
You thought that the game was.
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.480
You thought you only had to say Death of Hilla, and you were crazy.
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.160
Yeah, that's no, no, no.
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.039
Well, it's the song is Beth of Hilla related.
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.119
The song is two minutes long.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.319
So we go for the two.
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.759
We're going for the full two.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:43.200
Let's go for the full two.
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.319
Okay.
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:50.240
Now I'll let you even again start off saying Bethtophila.
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:50.880
Okay.
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.759
Okay, but no one else is allowed to say anything else.
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.240
And I guess we are allowing middle school teachers.
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:57.200
I was fine with the Mrs.
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:58.000
Weisenfreund.
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.920
Oh, I can I can keep it high school.
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:00.319
That's fine.
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.480
This is a high school podcast, right?
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:03.039
Yeah, that is.
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:08.079
Yeah, although my I'm I I really conflate middle school and high school together.
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.000
Like I keep saying middle school memories that were actually part of high school.
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:15.599
Three.
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.119
Oh shit, now I gotta thank you.
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:48.799
Rabbi Koselski Senior Amder No Rat Rabbi Stein Rabbi Field Doctor Brutal.
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:58.480
I can't think of his name.
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:02.160
Um guys, you guys all went to school for the whole time.
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.680
So that's true.
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:04.880
Uh Mrs.
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:05.839
Rapaport.
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:09.599
Dr.
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.480
Chase.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.400
Mr.
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:13.920
Bolinball!
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.480
Mora Carmi.
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.680
Okay, Andrew did miss that on the first go-around.
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.319
Yeah.
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:24.720
Andrew said Mora Carmi, yeah.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.880
Wow, I repeated one?
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.920
Oh, so I lose.
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.759
So that's negative one for you and Andrew.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:30.559
Negative one for me.
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:31.839
Okay, I'll do a different one.
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:32.559
Mora.
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:34.079
Or no, she wasn't a Mora.
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:34.559
Mrs.
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:35.759
Eisenman.
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:38.640
Why wasn't she a Mora?
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:39.440
That's interesting.
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:40.480
She was relentless.
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.240
She wore like very religious brace.
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.359
What's the distinction there?
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.880
A neck brace?
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.480
She always had a neck brace.
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:47.839
Oh no, someone else.
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.160
Definitely someone else.
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.599
I forgot her name.
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.400
I know who you're talking about.
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.240
She wore a shadow.
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:55.440
Oh, I know.
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:57.680
I know the neck brace.
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:04.319
Or Ackerman.
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.440
Oh, damn it.
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:06.079
I was gonna do that.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.519
Wait, it was Andrew's turn.
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.559
It was Andrew's turn.
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.400
Oh, you were kind of okay.
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.680
So you get that was your turn, and now Andrew has to go.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:14.000
Okay.
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.640
Um that's it.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:16.960
Okay.
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:19.039
That was it.
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:19.599
Okay.
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:20.559
Bye, everybody.
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:21.680
Thank God.
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:23.440
That was hard.
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:29.519
Um, okay.
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:34.400
Well, if we get one of those girls on for the next episode.
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:34.960
Yeah.
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.559
One of the girls in that cohort.
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.279
I know something I would want to ask is was this cohort.
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.200
Was this a coordinated plan?
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.960
They're gonna say no.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.279
No, it wasn't a coordinated plan.
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.079
I I am not saying it's a coordinated plan, to be clear.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:31:06.400
I'm saying I think that it was, I think that it was that they were all like essentially what Adam's saying, like that they just all realized that they were going to prom together, and then it it just was like a uh uh okay, as co as coordinated as it gets is I would say maybe like a day or two before.
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.000
They were like, oh, we're all going to prom.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.319
Cool.
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:09.839
When we get to prom, let's all hang out.
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:10.799
That that's what I would say.
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.200
Did she hang out with another guy there?
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.720
Or were they just hanging out as a group of friends the whole time?
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:17.440
Did she?
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:18.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.319
I have absolutely no idea because I didn't see it.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.000
We didn't even catch a glimpse that she was in the distance.
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:29.839
Uh no, I I mean, I truthfully, like, I don't remember what I did at that prom.
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:42.480
I remember more about my senior prom because I did have a very positive senior prom experience because I was in three different ways rejected by three different people I tried to ask, and so it went back to the house.
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.119
And had a great time.
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:52.240
No, I just because I, you know, I came into your life in your 20s, right?
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.480
That's when we started to become friends.
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.440
Would you say in your 20s you were more or less sensitive than you were in high school?
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.240
That's a good question.
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:21.519
Sensitive in different ways in high school, like uh really up through certainly up until college, I was very sensitive about like the fact I was very naive, and that that then I think fed into like a lot of different sensitivities.
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.839
Okay, well, just because when we were friends, uh in the very beginning, I would say you were very sensitive.
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:28.400
Yes.
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:36.480
Something you would do if if something didn't go your way, you would immediately remove yourself from the situation.
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:41.839
Totally, totally, and sit like in the other room by yourself or in the hallway by yourself.
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.119
I remember going to some froyo places, and you would people just listen to this podcast and they don't know me.
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.400
I truly am just like the Joker.
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.640
Like, I I I must come off as just like an absolute psychopath.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:56.559
You're not like that now.
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.000
So I'm very much not, but I truly like kidding.
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.319
No, it just it took you a while to grow up.
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.839
It took me such a long time to grow up.
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.519
That's all really, really stunted.
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.599
But yeah, you were you're I mean, it's because you're like shit like your mom didn't let you watch Glory.
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Like, I feel like it really is all like I needed to see a dude's head get blown off, and it's like that really takes my life.
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The sort of mind that allow that doesn't allow that is the sort of mind that is very protective that leads to me would lead to a guy who is 22 years old.
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Here's something that he doesn't like and go sit at the outside table at a froyo place.
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Yeah.
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So I could see, and believe all victims, of course, but I could see something in the very beginning not going your way, and you kind of just removed yourself from the group.
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Of where?
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Of prom you're saying?
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Prom, yeah.
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Wow.
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I mean, that like I so I won't I won't even deny that that's very possible, but that would mean like I have truly like whitewashed my brain because that like this is why we need someone else on the show to really see what their perception is.
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This is not an attack on you, J.
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I'm just I'm kind of just thinking like that would be very narratively interesting for the podcast if you know kind of what you're just setting this up for him to be uh clapped down later.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.880
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing, right?
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I either I'm right and I'm a big loser, right?
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Or I'm wrong and I'm a big liar.
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I think you were a loser in high school by some metric that you were grading what losers and not losers were.
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Like this, this in that the I'm saying specifically to this story, you've set up the narrative that either what I'm saying is true, in which case I think we would all agree that if what I'm saying is true, wouldn't you agree that that would that would be uh a negative outcome?
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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I I mean I would be it's lose lose for him.
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It's news lose, thank you.
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I'd be react- I would probably react at that age, I'd probably react pretty similar to how you reacted.
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Right.
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But now the right I have the exact opposite.
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Okay, sorry.
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You're fine.
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Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
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No, I I just have a similar story, honestly.
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Okay.
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At Hershey Park, I was with like my group of friends, Andrew, Jordan, Solomon Eichner, Alex Simone.
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Um maybe that's it.
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I think this is in ninth grade, maybe eighth grade.
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I can't remember when we go to Hershey Park, but it was our whole grade was there.
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And joined our group, and she was talking to me a lot more than the others.
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And so the others ditched us, but I was just like, I was so hurt.
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Like, I didn't realize they were trying to like wingman me or whatever.
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I I was just like so pissed that they left and just gave everyone the silent treatment for like a week after that.
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Like, didn't talk to them at all.
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So I I I'm all I'm saying is like that you were swimming at it.
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I would no, but I was reacting, I reacted a similar, I would have reacted a similar way.
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It was just friends ditching me instead of uh you must realize that that story is like zero percent helpful as far as how it relates to the world.
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It is funny because I bet people would say she was like the hottest girl in our class, too.
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It's just that is such a great one of them at least.
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Well, that's so good.
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Josh, you were doing so good in high school, and I'm so sorry that your friends tried to set you up.
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But I was so sad.
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Dude, what a hard life.
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Because the hottest girl in the school wanted to hang out with me.
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What a hard life, Josh.
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So I can't remember if he left in high school, but I had a friend, Tyler Weinberg, whose dad I think he was like a developer.
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Yes, very wealthy.
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So there'd be I was pretty close with him.
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So there'd be all these times where like his dad would, I don't know, be involved with the development of something.
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And then we would just he would like invite like three or four friends, and we would have like an all-access pass to that thing.
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So his dad was involved, I guess, in the development of ESPN zone.
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The one by the harbor.
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So it was like right when it opened, me and maybe me, him, and maybe three of our other friends, unlimited tokens, oh my god.
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Run around and do whatever we wanted.
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I'd never seen anything like ESPN Zone.
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Like that was my first time seeing like TVs on the urinals, too.
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Like, do you I don't know if you remember that.
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It had that.
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Yeah, I remember so early for that.
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Even though I was playing sports, I was like, it's still just cool conceptually, like the TVs on the urinals.
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The novelty of it.
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Yeah, and it just I don't know, it didn't look it.
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It it it felt, I think it to me like almost felt like there was sort of like a version of Disneyland that was closer to me.
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And even though the theme was sports, I guess, just the fact that there was a themed something with arcade games was enough for you.
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You could you could fight that internal drive to be repulsed by the fact that it was athletic based.
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Yeah, I guess it didn't matter to me at all.
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I feel like my my froggy voice is making me sound more emotional about this than I actually am.
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But a little bit.
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Yeah, I'm getting a little bit old.
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So I just want people to know I'm not crying about TVs on top of the year.
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It's okay if you were.
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It's okay if you were.
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So then prom comes and the after party is at ESPN zone, and I am so amped.
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And this is like after like, you know, birthday parties are happening there.
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Like, I just loved going anytime I went.
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Like, I just loved anytime I went there.
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And then I find out it's like not cool to like going there after prom.
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I was like, what was I like?
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Oh yeah.
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I mean, it just seemed like after prom everyone wanted to go to Zach at Alter's house and drink.
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And uh I was definitely yeah, I just was like, we do that every weekend.
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This is like an all access fast ESPN zone.
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I think we would get I think we had cards that were a hundred dollars, which like you couldn't spend that in well.
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But I think every kid got a hundred dollars.
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Um and I loved it.
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I I maybe there was like a certain hour where suddenly I was like, maybe we've been here for too long, but I think on the whole I just loved being there.
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But you who but were you doing stuff with other people and they weren't being resentful the whole time?
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Hmm.
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I think, let's see.
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Oh man.
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Okay, well, I remember this only furthers how excited I was.
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This was senior year, the story I'm about to tell, but this only furthers like how excited I was to go to ESPN zone.
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You know how there's like a million TV screens all over ESPN zone?
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Like every you can't look in a direction and not see like a sports game playing, right?
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So you're just like posted on the walls, you know, in every corner.
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There's even that room where there's like recliners and you can watch like do you remember this?
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There's like recliners, and there's like you know, 20 TV screens all playing different sports games, and there's there are number buttons on your chair that you can click into to say what TV you want the audio from.
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You don't remember that either, Chick?
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Dude, our our stories connected to ESPN zone are very different, and I promise you I was zero percent focused on anything that had to do with ESPN zone.
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All right, well I found that someone brought a copy of the senior movie into ESPN Zone.
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Oh my god.
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And suddenly, I mean if you're blasting in the urinals, if if if people are watching a fucking four and a half hour passion project in the urinals at ESPN zone, uh would you define the senior movie as a passion project?
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Were you passionate about making it?
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Yeah, but I think the passion project has the connotation of like it's just for me, right?
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I I then I completely stand by what I just said.
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What it could have been more for everybody.
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I think it was for you and everyone was like a nice was a nice bonus.
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Wait, is there is the perception?
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I love the senior movie.
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It's like one of my favorite things on this planet.
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The fact that it exists is incredible.
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But it must, yeah, I think it must have mostly been for you.
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Is this like a Shudder Island situation where like everyone was playing for Josh Happy?
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Exactly.
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I I I think so.
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I think you're I think you're your prisoner number 32 or whatever.
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Um anyway, well, it couldn't have been because someone who was not me had the I mean this would really like be some true Shutter Island type planning.
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Truman show stuff.
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Yeah, like, oh my god, let's play the senior movie on all the TV screens in ESPN zone.
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And it's like, I don't know if my ego did so.
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Did they do that?
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Yeah, how?
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How do they do that?
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This sounds like a dream you would have.
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Where to go?
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I mean, where to go holy shit.
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If this was first of all, if this was the first time that you lied or misremembered something in this show's history, that that's already huge.
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That's not something out.
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So you guys don't believe me, Adam.
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Do you believe me?
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I mean, it's not I yeah, I believe you.
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I believe you have this memory.
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That's not believable.
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Wow, that's that's even meaner than what I was gonna say.
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No, I do believe you.
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No, it seems crazy, but sure, yeah.
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If you're saying it, I believe you.
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I mean, why would you make that up?
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Right.
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But I yeah, that seems nuts.
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Um, so okay, so in your it it in your narrative, uh, then the movie starts playing everywhere.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And uh that was awesome.
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But are people like Josh, Josh, Josh, like are people like that's cut to the scene where they're exactly horroring you, they're horroring you throughout the ESPN zone.
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That's definitely what it felt like for sure.
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Um, so okay, so your story was a story of triumph, is what I'm hearing.
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Like your your ESPN zone story was as usual.
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You're the star of the show, you're the star of the night.
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So, okay, well, here's how I remember it.
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So this was my senior year.
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No, sorry, this is my junior year.
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See, I already I already fucked it up.
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This is my junior year.
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So um, so I and my friends were all mostly um like fret friendly, if you will, with a certain group of girl cohort friends in your in y'all's grade, if you will.
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And so um people are, you know, like guys in my grade are asking girls in in y'all's grade, uh, you know, mostly from that cohort.
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Um and I had a at the time had a crush on so uh so I asked her and she said yes.
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It was very exciting for me.
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Um and we did, I remember we did some pictures at my house.
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Like, like I think a bunch of there were a bunch of people that came over.
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And I think we did like pictures in my backyard.
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I think we went maybe somewhere else to do pictures somewhere else.
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Um so we're on the minibus, and I could already feel like the energy because it was clear to me, and it became like crystal clear, or I mean as crystal as it as clear gets once we got to prom that, and this was just my own naivete, like my thoughts about prom were like, oh, like this is like a date, right?
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Like in my mind, it's like it's a date.
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Is is something gonna happen?
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Probably not, but it but it's like say it again.
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In your mind, you thought this could lead to a relationship.
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I thought this could lead to a relationship, or at least a kiss or something, you know, like like small potatoes, small, very small stakes.
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But uh, you know, certainly from like a pop culture standpoint.
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What would not for knowing what I know now about you in high school, those were not small stakes for you.
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Yes, I'm sorry.
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Let me be very clear.
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At the time, I thought, oh, like this is I'm just gonna I'm gonna do everything.
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For sure at the time, I was just like, oh, this is where I become an adult.
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But now, like looking at it in perspective, I'm sure I was, I'm sure I thought, I'm sure deep down I was like, oh, like I will maybe I can, maybe we can kiss is probably what I legitimately thought.
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But I'm sure at the time I was just like, I don't know what's gonna happen, and the whole world is beautiful and amazing, and anything is possible with Hashem's help, just knowing where my my uh my beliefs and and things were at the time.
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So on the bus, I think that already started to shatter a little bit because it like was very clear that there were just sort of two general agendas going on.
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Like, now I can't speak to the other guys, I can speak to me, but like my agenda was more like, oh, like we're gonna hang out, we're gonna talk, we're gonna dance, yada yada yada.
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And I think that the girls had made some kind of either you know, overt or implicit pact that like the point of this was for them to hang out together because they had all been, you know, uh uh invited to something that they wouldn't have otherwise been able to go to.
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So for them, this was like a social event, normal, all normal stuff, but just like very competing agendas.
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Right.
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Um wasn't about the guy that brought them together.
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It wasn't about the guy, they were just a tool to get them a vessel.
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The man was a vessel.
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The man was a vessel.
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So we get there, and I basically don't see her for the rest of the night.
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Um, and so that was like pretty instantly a very sad just a prom, not even ESPN.
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This is just a prom.
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This is just a prom.
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This is just a prom, which makes, of course, the the ESPN zone piece of it way sadder.
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Um but so so prom was like in and of itself a pretty, a pretty miserable experience for me.
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Like I felt I was a very emotional little boy.
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So I just like sure, I'm sure I cried, I'm sure I was like very upset.
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I'm sure I hid in the bathroom.
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I couldn't tell you like vividly if I did those things, but knowing me, I did that at Bar Mitz all the time.
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So this is like what five years later, I'm sure I was still very much in my feelings.
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So uh yeah, so it was just like really hurtful for me.
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So um, yeah, so I ate pasta salad and I was pretty miserable.
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I didn't dance with anyone.
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I was I was so like classically conditioned to um like avoid dances with with girls just because I had had such an unbelievably traumatic like bar mitzvacircuit experience.
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Like, talk about I mean, this was essentially my Holocaust, but it's like you had to like imagine you have to endure your own personal hell every single weekend, sometimes twice for a year.
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It's like I can't think of anything more traumatizing to a young pre-pubescent into pubescent little boy.
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So we get on the bus, we like sit next to each other.
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I think I'm like, I'm sure, passive aggressive and resentful, but also like still like oh, maybe ESPN zone is where I turn it around.
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I was really an incredibly there's no dance, resilient.
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Yeah, exactly.
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There's no dance, and I maybe I teased this, maybe I teased this last time, but I really think that my actual thought was I mean, this is insane hearing it now, but I think my thought was if I can get her on the Star Wars ride, like that's why you did say that.
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What does that mean?
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So let me talk about that.
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So if you remember in the arcades, there was the Star Wars ride where two people sat in like a little box, and there was like, yeah, each of you had a controller, and there was like a level where you were in a TIE fighter, and there was a level or an X-Wing, whichever, and there was a level where you fought Darth Vader, there was a level where you were like in like a little pad or speed race or whatever, and you're in the jungle.
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It was like at every arcade ever.
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I'm sure, I'm sure they still, I'm sure it's still in arcades, but like that was my go-to game.
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And I was like, okay, it's like isolated.
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There's, I think there's like there can be little curtains on it, and it's just for two people.
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So I'm like, okay, I'm good at this game, I'm gonna impress her with my Star Wars skills.
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That's really cool.
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And we're gonna be in isolation, and so then I feel like, all right, like maybe this is where I could talk to her, like, you know, you know, spit non-existent game that I had.
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So uh, so we get there, and like we have one kind of conversation.
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Again, this is just how I remember it, when we get there, where where at that point, basically I was like, are we gonna hang out at all?
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Like, is that like are we are we gonna see each other at all for the rest of this night?
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And in the I'll I'm gonna give her a lot of credit.
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I think in the nicest way possible, she was like, I think I just want to hang out with my friends.
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And I was like, that's cool.
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I'll see you later.
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And then I'm pretty sure I went into the into the Espion zone bathroom and cried while watching your senior movie.
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They they kept they kept it playing.
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They kept it playing, even though it hadn't even been made yet.
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Um, so we did Espion Zone.
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It felt like probably five hours too long.
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I'm sure we were only there for two hours, but it felt like the rest of my life.
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I was already thinking about, oh my gosh, I have to return this tuxedo that like I didn't get to get have taken off me.
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And it was just like a very sad, sad night.
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And I remember afterwards I stayed the night at David Lips's house, and I remember talking to him about it.
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And he was he was cool.
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Like he was this is a friend of mine um at the time.
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But yeah, then then really I'm being serious.
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I ask her this if she ever comes on.
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I don't know if we ever really spoke again after that.
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Like, and I still had another year of high school with her.
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Um, so yes, ESPN zone I was not really focused on.
00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.879
I mean, I I definitely did play the Star Wars game, of course.
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That was my like sort of my uh alone, alone, of course, of course.
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Um and uh I just remember feeling like I I mean I definitely remember watching certainly like the grade above me was filled to the brim with hot guys and girls.
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I mean, like that was sausage nipples guy, that was sausage nipples grade, and so it was just a lot of talent walking around.
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Yeah, and I remember being like, oh my god, these people are just so attractive and they're all dating and everyone's super happy.
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And then even in my grade, like even the I will say, of all of the guys in my group that had taken girls in the grade below, I feel like some of the girls ended up like hanging out with the guys, or the guys were just like way more secure in themselves and didn't care.
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And I just remember thinking, like, boy, I wish I didn't care.
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I wish I didn't, I wish I didn't feel feelings about any of this.
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And uh it would have made it would have made the experience a lot easier for me.
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But it was definitely very sad.
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And then I mean, I this I the next year was also ESPN zone, but a way happier ESPN zone because I got rejected three times to prom one, two, three.
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Um, and so I went by myself and had a way better experience because I was just like, oh, I I am free and I hate women, and it was just a very like it was a very uh you know that was early in a positive rephrase.
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Yes, exactly.
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The seeds were planted, but that was a very traumatizing uh experience in its own right, and so so I yeah, I mean I I I wish I had died for sure at the time.
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Well, did I?
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I mean, this is poetic, what I'm about to say.
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Do you guys know my prom story?
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Yes, I'm on the other side of you're on the other side, you're on the other side.
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You dunked on you you you you like absolutely like the villain, like like right.
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I am yeah, like the story of that, I am the villain.
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It's just so perfect.
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But you're not the villain because you ended up with the girl and you ended up getting married and having a happy life together.
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So it was well for the for the show.
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I mean, I was late to asking Abby to prom, and the guy who asked her before me, I would say, huh, what's like a nice way to put this?
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Like, just looked like a stereotype.
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Josh is Josh Josh is about to dip right back into his villain arc with what with however he's gonna describe him.
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I mean, he just looked like a nerd.
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I don't know what else to say.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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I didn't really know him, but Abby was going with and then I swooped in, and then she was hanging out with me the rest of the night, and was nowhere to be seen.
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And it was the biggest.
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Maybe he was riding the Star Wars ride alone after that.
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I don't know.
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No, can I say something?
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I I knew Jo because he was in my grade.
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And you sir or no.
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To his cred you sir or no to his credit, he probably was completely fine because he had so much faith in Hashem.
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We have uh we have a story we need you to corroborate.
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So so here's the story.
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Josh remembers at your after prom dance at ESPN zone.
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Oh, that's where the shirt's from.
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I was incredible, the the shirt.
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It's yeah, you're this whole time I've been wearing an ESPN zone Baltimore shirt.
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I want you to know it's probably worth a lot of money.
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Yeah.
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So at ESPN Zone, Josh has a memory that every television at the joint was playing his senior movie.
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Do you remember that?
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Say the senior movie, please.
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It's yours.
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Um I actually think there were TVs that were playing the senior movie.
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I can't I can't say every, but I do believe that there were multiple TVs playing the senior movie.
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Very good.
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And that's not everyone can conclude on that here.
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Let's be clear.
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I I didn't necessarily see every TV.
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I don't remember if it was playing in the back or not.
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A great point.
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You're 100% validating my belief, which is that it could have been playing on every TV, but the chance of it playing on every TV is very unlikely.
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Josh swears by the idea of it.
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Oh it's not unlikely.
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It just I can only keep track of the TVs that maybe saw it on.
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I think it's true.
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I think you should try and bring on multiple people and find out if they have other TVs that they can say.
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Maybe someone used the restroom during the movie, which would host with Halila.
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God forbid someone would have the restroom while while this while this incredible production was happening.
00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:06.799
So just really quick, Ari, we had Jonathan Falk on.
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He confirmed that all the TVs upstairs in ESPN zone were playing the senior movie.
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I am fairly positive, and sure, you can always tell me I'm wrong, and somebody else might, but in my head, I have a very vivid memory of sitting in the half-circle booths down in where you could eat food, and they had the senior movie on the main screen.
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I don't remember what was on all the other little TVs, but there was definitely the senior movie playing on those big screens.
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:33.519
Oh, no, no, no.
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Ari, Ari, you're not doing anything wrong.
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It's that Josh is so psychotically committed to the idea that every single television at ESPN zone was screening his movie that he will not for one second allow the argument that maybe it wasn't on every television.
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:50.319
Oh, it needs to be on every TV.
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I can definitely confirm that it was on the main TV.
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I don't remember, I think, but definitely they were on the TV downstairs for sure.
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All right, guys.
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I'm gonna go.
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Love you, buddy.
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I'll love you.
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Bye.
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Andrew.
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There he is.
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Hey, what's up, guys?
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Can you hear me?
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Okay.
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Andrew, do you remember sitting in class once with Josh, and Josh let a silent but deadly fart rip, and you turned to him and said, I'm gonna ruin you?
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:31.279
I I don't remember that specifically, but that sounds exactly like something I would say.
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No, the thing we actually did want you on for is you have a memory of ESPN zone?
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Yeah, I sure after prom and the senior movie played on like every TV.
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Do I have that memory?
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Weren't there like 30 TVs in just that one room.
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Yeah, but in my memory, it was playing on every single one of those.
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I remember playing, yeah, I remember it playing on all of those TVs.
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Now, what I don't know is if it played in the urinal TVs.
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That's true.
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I want you on the mouth.
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I don't remember that it is the eternal in Christ.
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My brother in the Christ.
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Nobody checked that.
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I have shocked that young boys, that's the first thing you check.
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Right, right.
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What do you think?
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I know, and I have like the TVs being in the urinals, like I have a very like strong memory of when I was when I first saw those.
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Like when I went with Tyler Weinberg, TSPN zone, in like it had to have been like fifth grade, and seeing those your TV urinals me and having my mind blown.
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Like I even like, oh my god, you can pee and watch TV.
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So you'd think like, since I had such a strong connection with those urinal TVs, you'd think I would have gone and checked if the senior movie played played on these TVs that had such significance in my childhood.
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But maybe if the the senior movie was a little longer, someone would have been able to do it in time.
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That's true.
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Yeah, it is the one made problem with the senior movie.
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That was out so much.
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Yeah, no, I I I can't believe nobody checked.
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I'm sure somebody did.
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I mean, I it was probably you probably was like, Solomon, go go check the journals.
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And they were Solomon.
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I also made a claim on our last episode that was sort of like bold that I don't think anyone in my grade did not like me.
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And and um what do you think about that statement?
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And if you know of someone, we would love to I would love to hear about it.
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.640
I think you're probably right.
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I don't think there's anyone that's like uh that Josh guy is a smug douche.
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.799
But uh, I do you think everyone liked you?
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Like, oh, I really like Josh.
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I think I I think I said no one did not like me.
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I think those were my words.
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Not not everyone liked me because they were like people who I didn't really know so well.
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:38.960
So how could they there's always I feel like there's always somebody that you wronged once that was Jake and I that was our when it comes from hot andrew, it lands on him, but when it comes from me, and I say the same exactly.
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No, I believed you.
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I no, I was saying like I'm insane.
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:43.119
No, I believed you.
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:52.160
I was saying, like, I could see me kind of like like to uh like a j or whatever, like that's exactly what I was thinking, right?
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.200
Yeah, like passing him by in the hallway and be like, hey buddy, how's it going?
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.440
And then just like keep walking, right?
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.200
So like yeah, yeah, I can see that also.
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.400
Um there's there has there's always somebody.
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.079
Yeah, there's always somebody.
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:21.519
We are trying to find that one person to talk to them, and we did actually start a hotline that people can call into if they have any reports of people they think did not like me.
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.519
All right, well, let's just end it.
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.960
Um wow, okay.
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:28.880
Actually, I I know how to end this.
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I know how to end it.
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:31.119
Okay, go ahead.
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Uh, I've always and Andrew, you're please play along.
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:34.720
Okay.
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:53.920
I've been uh meaning to like bring play a game on the show where I play the SNL music, like the opening SNL music, and we all go around being Don Pardo, and we have to say a name of a person who who taught at BT.
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.759
So like instead of saying like Keenan Thompson, you say Mrs.
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Allen.
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Oh and uh but Adam has no memory for anything.
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.680
So he's just allowed to say anything BT related.
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.440
Okay, Yarmakas.
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.279
Yeah, like even that is.
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.000
Okay, let's start with how should we do the order?
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.240
Are we all looking at the same squares right now?
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.079
To me, it goes Adam, Josh, Jake, Andrew.
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:32.559
That's not how mine goes.
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That's not how mine is in Adam.
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.799
All right, well, should we can we do it in that order?
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:39.440
Adam, Josh, Jake, Andrew.
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Okay, sure.
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.880
Now that works.
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.480
I don't want to go first.
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.079
Yeah, Adam has to go first.
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.559
Adam, you get just saying, just lead us off by literally saying Beth to fila.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.559
You can just lead us off by saying Bethtophilla.
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:53.039
Okay.
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:53.839
Great.
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All right, three, two, one.
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Beth to fila.
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Mrs.
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Allen, Dr.
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Chase, Mrs.
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Weisenfreund.
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Obviously, Adam is either.
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.279
I never took one round.
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:24.240
No, no, no, no.
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:25.279
Yeah.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:26.160
Oh, what?
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:26.960
That's not a game.
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:28.000
Where am I, Adam?
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:28.880
You thought that the game was.
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.480
You thought you only had to say Death of Hilla, and you were crazy.
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.160
Yeah, that's no, no, no.
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.039
Well, it's the song is Beth of Hilla related.
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.119
The song is two minutes long.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.319
So we go for the two.
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.759
We're going for the full two.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:43.200
Let's go for the full two.
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.319
Okay.
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:50.240
Now I'll let you even again start off saying Bethtophila.
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:50.880
Okay.
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.759
Okay, but no one else is allowed to say anything else.
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.240
And I guess we are allowing middle school teachers.
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:57.200
I was fine with the Mrs.
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Weisenfreund.
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.920
Oh, I can I can keep it high school.
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:00.319
That's fine.
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.480
This is a high school podcast, right?
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:03.039
Yeah, that is.
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:08.079
Yeah, although my I'm I I really conflate middle school and high school together.
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.000
Like I keep saying middle school memories that were actually part of high school.
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Three.
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Oh shit, now I gotta thank you.
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Rabbi Koselski Senior Amder No Rat Rabbi Stein Rabbi Field Doctor Brutal.
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:58.480
I can't think of his name.
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:02.160
Um guys, you guys all went to school for the whole time.
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.680
So that's true.
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:04.880
Uh Mrs.
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:05.839
Rapaport.
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:09.599
Dr.
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.480
Chase.
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.400
Mr.
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:13.920
Bolinball!
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Mora Carmi.
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.680
Okay, Andrew did miss that on the first go-around.
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.319
Yeah.
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:24.720
Andrew said Mora Carmi, yeah.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.880
Wow, I repeated one?
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.920
Oh, so I lose.
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.759
So that's negative one for you and Andrew.
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Negative one for me.
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Okay, I'll do a different one.
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Mora.
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Or no, she wasn't a Mora.
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Mrs.
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Eisenman.
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Why wasn't she a Mora?
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:39.440
That's interesting.
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:40.480
She was relentless.
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.240
She wore like very religious brace.
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.359
What's the distinction there?
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.880
A neck brace?
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.480
She always had a neck brace.
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:47.839
Oh no, someone else.
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.160
Definitely someone else.
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.599
I forgot her name.
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.400
I know who you're talking about.
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.240
She wore a shadow.
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:55.440
Oh, I know.
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:57.680
I know the neck brace.
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Or Ackerman.
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Oh, damn it.
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:06.079
I was gonna do that.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.519
Wait, it was Andrew's turn.
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.559
It was Andrew's turn.
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Oh, you were kind of okay.
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.680
So you get that was your turn, and now Andrew has to go.
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Okay.
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Um that's it.
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Okay.
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That was it.
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Okay.
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Bye, everybody.
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Thank God.
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:23.440
That was hard.
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:29.519
Um, okay.
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:34.400
Well, if we get one of those girls on for the next episode.
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:34.960
Yeah.
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.559
One of the girls in that cohort.
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.279
I know something I would want to ask is was this cohort.
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Was this a coordinated plan?
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.960
They're gonna say no.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.279
No, it wasn't a coordinated plan.
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.079
I I am not saying it's a coordinated plan, to be clear.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:31:06.400
I'm saying I think that it was, I think that it was that they were all like essentially what Adam's saying, like that they just all realized that they were going to prom together, and then it it just was like a uh uh okay, as co as coordinated as it gets is I would say maybe like a day or two before.
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.000
They were like, oh, we're all going to prom.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.319
Cool.
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When we get to prom, let's all hang out.
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:10.799
That that's what I would say.
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.200
Did she hang out with another guy there?
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.720
Or were they just hanging out as a group of friends the whole time?
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:17.440
Did she?
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:18.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.319
I have absolutely no idea because I didn't see it.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.000
We didn't even catch a glimpse that she was in the distance.
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:29.839
Uh no, I I mean, I truthfully, like, I don't remember what I did at that prom.
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:42.480
I remember more about my senior prom because I did have a very positive senior prom experience because I was in three different ways rejected by three different people I tried to ask, and so it went back to the house.
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.119
And had a great time.
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:52.240
No, I just because I, you know, I came into your life in your 20s, right?
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.480
That's when we started to become friends.
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.440
Would you say in your 20s you were more or less sensitive than you were in high school?
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.240
That's a good question.
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:21.519
Sensitive in different ways in high school, like uh really up through certainly up until college, I was very sensitive about like the fact I was very naive, and that that then I think fed into like a lot of different sensitivities.
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.839
Okay, well, just because when we were friends, uh in the very beginning, I would say you were very sensitive.
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:28.400
Yes.
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:36.480
Something you would do if if something didn't go your way, you would immediately remove yourself from the situation.
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:41.839
Totally, totally, and sit like in the other room by yourself or in the hallway by yourself.
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.119
I remember going to some froyo places, and you would people just listen to this podcast and they don't know me.
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.400
I truly am just like the Joker.
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.640
Like, I I I must come off as just like an absolute psychopath.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:56.559
You're not like that now.
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.000
So I'm very much not, but I truly like kidding.
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.319
No, it just it took you a while to grow up.
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.839
It took me such a long time to grow up.
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.519
That's all really, really stunted.
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.599
But yeah, you were you're I mean, it's because you're like shit like your mom didn't let you watch Glory.
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.400
Like, I feel like it really is all like I needed to see a dude's head get blown off, and it's like that really takes my life.
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:26.079
The sort of mind that allow that doesn't allow that is the sort of mind that is very protective that leads to me would lead to a guy who is 22 years old.
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.720
Here's something that he doesn't like and go sit at the outside table at a froyo place.
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:31.440
Yeah.
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:46.720
So I could see, and believe all victims, of course, but I could see something in the very beginning not going your way, and you kind of just removed yourself from the group.
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:47.920
Of where?
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:48.880
Of prom you're saying?
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:50.000
Prom, yeah.
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:50.799
Wow.
00:33:50.880 --> 00:34:04.559
I mean, that like I so I won't I won't even deny that that's very possible, but that would mean like I have truly like whitewashed my brain because that like this is why we need someone else on the show to really see what their perception is.
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:06.480
This is not an attack on you, J.
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:17.039
I'm just I'm kind of just thinking like that would be very narratively interesting for the podcast if you know kind of what you're just setting this up for him to be uh clapped down later.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.880
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing, right?
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:23.199
I either I'm right and I'm a big loser, right?
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.320
Or I'm wrong and I'm a big liar.
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:32.320
I think you were a loser in high school by some metric that you were grading what losers and not losers were.
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:51.679
Like this, this in that the I'm saying specifically to this story, you've set up the narrative that either what I'm saying is true, in which case I think we would all agree that if what I'm saying is true, wouldn't you agree that that would that would be uh a negative outcome?
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.119
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.840
I I mean I would be it's lose lose for him.
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:57.280
It's news lose, thank you.
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:03.199
I'd be react- I would probably react at that age, I'd probably react pretty similar to how you reacted.
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:04.320
Right.
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:10.559
But now the right I have the exact opposite.
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:11.679
Okay, sorry.
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:12.320
You're fine.
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:13.199
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.239
No, I I just have a similar story, honestly.
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:16.559
Okay.
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:23.360
At Hershey Park, I was with like my group of friends, Andrew, Jordan, Solomon Eichner, Alex Simone.
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.239
Um maybe that's it.
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.320
I think this is in ninth grade, maybe eighth grade.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.079
I can't remember when we go to Hershey Park, but it was our whole grade was there.
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:41.440
And joined our group, and she was talking to me a lot more than the others.
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:47.840
And so the others ditched us, but I was just like, I was so hurt.
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.519
Like, I didn't realize they were trying to like wingman me or whatever.
00:35:51.760 --> 00:36:00.000
I I was just like so pissed that they left and just gave everyone the silent treatment for like a week after that.
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:01.920
Like, didn't talk to them at all.
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:06.480
So I I I'm all I'm saying is like that you were swimming at it.
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:11.519
I would no, but I was reacting, I reacted a similar, I would have reacted a similar way.
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:20.079
It was just friends ditching me instead of uh you must realize that that story is like zero percent helpful as far as how it relates to the world.
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.800
It is funny because I bet people would say she was like the hottest girl in our class, too.
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:33.119
It's just that is such a great one of them at least.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.280
Well, that's so good.
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.159
Josh, you were doing so good in high school, and I'm so sorry that your friends tried to set you up.
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:41.360
But I was so sad.
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:42.960
Dude, what a hard life.
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.320
Because the hottest girl in the school wanted to hang out with me.
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.679
What a hard life, Josh.
