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00:00:19.777Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the third episode of season two.
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00:00:23.949You know we've started this season off strong and it's just continuing to get stronger.
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00:00:49.771We believe and we could be wrong, so someone tell us if we're wrong but we believe still to this day Tulare counties only IFBB classic physique professional bodybuilder, rudy Ramirez.
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00:00:55.344We're so excited to have him on today and we're going to really dive in deep and get into this podcast today.
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00:00:58.113So, rudy, welcome, pleasure to have you on.
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00:00:59.198Thank you for having me.
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00:01:11.870So, rudy, before we get it going, we like to do mental minute, so with the mental minute, we just fire some rapid questions at you, get the juices flowing, get it going.
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00:01:17.352So the first question that we got is who is your biggest inspiration to get into bodybuilding?
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00:01:27.087Well, let's start it back when I was a kid man Watching a movie the old Arnold Schwarzenegger, oh yeah, you know.
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00:01:29.953Yeah, Pump and Iron, baby, yeah, Pump and Iron.
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00:01:31.926But the first movie I saw him was Predator.
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00:01:33.009Ooh Predator.
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00:01:36.629Predator was the first time I ever saw this guy and I was like what the hell is this?
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00:01:38.224Who is this guy?
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00:01:43.868You know, being a kid, you're like, oh man, I want to look like that dude man.
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00:01:46.713Yeah, Superhero like action figure, right yeah.
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00:01:49.305The other day I was.
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00:01:53.013What kind of popped up in my head about this question was.
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00:02:04.507I was listening to a podcast with Seabum, which you know Seabum everyone's looking at him right now he's the biggest bodybuilder in the world but someone had asked him what's your favorite lifts and also your least favorite lifts.
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00:02:14.947So, rudy, I mean, you've been doing this a long time, so what's your like two or three favorite lifts and your two or three that you know you do, but they're not your favorite.
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00:02:21.229Well, my favorite lifts have become mostly back exercises.
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00:02:26.991You know, going into competing, you know, chess wasn't really much of a hassle for me.
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00:02:29.340I grew my chest, it became easy.
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00:02:33.009So I mean, yeah, I liked it, but I liked the challenge.
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00:02:42.167And when I got critiques from judges that my back needed to come up, it was, you know, rows every kind of silver to row.
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00:02:44.724I tried to really put some meat on that back.
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00:02:58.106The other left definitely be squats, just because I suck at them and they are like, honestly, the biggest ass kickers man.
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00:02:58.868Oh yeah.
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00:03:02.448You know, but they're also, they can be dangerous.
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00:03:18.353So you got to write that fine line, man, you know, and other than my other one will have to be I mean, tricep press downs, very dominant on the tricep, you know, but again it comes easy.
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00:03:20.724So those are probably my three favorite.
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00:03:22.149Okay, I'm going to put you on the spot here.
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00:03:30.204If you could only have three lifts, and that's, that's all you could do three lifts what would they be Like?
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00:03:32.911If you only got to hit three lifts forever, what would they be?
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00:03:35.979Oh damn Sorry.
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00:03:38.568I'm putting you on the spot here a little bit.
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00:03:42.344Well, I mean, I think pull ups.
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00:03:50.743Pull ups are probably one of the most you know, not even really over, over hand.
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00:03:51.746Yeah, yeah.
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00:03:53.528I don't do yeah.
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00:03:55.733No, no, I don't kick man.
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00:03:58.425It's only one way yeah.
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00:04:03.777No, but pull ups, man, they're honestly, they're overlooked a lot, you know.
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00:04:16.930But pull ups are huge, you know, um squats, because they don't build overall and, uh, you know I would have to go with the chest press.
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00:04:22.117Dumbbell barbell machine Uh barbell, I mean dumbbell, dumbbell dumbbell.
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00:04:22.759I prefer dumbbell.
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00:04:26.108I mean, there's a big difference, right, there's a huge difference, huge difference.
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00:04:27.851Okay, you know I'm done.
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00:04:29.665I'm over my bro years man.
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00:04:33.189I don't mess in with a lot of barbell pressing, no more.
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00:04:37.665You know it tears up the shoulders a lot and I prefer the.
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00:04:40.129You know the control of having the dumbbells.
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00:04:42.805You know the contraction you're able to attain from the dumbbells.
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00:04:45.201Oh, yeah.
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00:04:47.404Right Because tensions everything is a body builder right.
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00:04:50.267Exactly, you're not just moving weight, you're trying to feel the weight.
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00:04:51.149Exactly Right.
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00:04:53.252Exactly, you know, move and contract Right.
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00:04:55.334I mean, what would yours be?
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00:05:00.767Um, I'm going to go definitely, pull ups, right, pull ups, uh, pull up squat.
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00:05:05.444And, oh man, pull up squat.
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00:05:11.930And maybe, yeah, probably, I'm probably going to go the same.
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00:05:14.812Yeah, definitely pull ups, right, yeah, pull ups.
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00:05:16.454Yeah, definitely a squat.
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00:05:27.963Yeah, you can hit leg or hit some other things like that, and then something either going to go chest press or maybe like ah man, yeah, I'm probably going to go the same.
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00:05:29.588Hmm, see, I'm a deadlift guy.
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00:05:30.911I'm going to pass on squats.
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00:05:33.788I'm good with squats man, I'll pick up the bar man.
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00:05:38.651That's my, that's my breading, that would probably be my next one, that a deadlift, because you're going to hit back.
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00:05:42.620You know, obviously hamstrings legs different things.
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00:05:44.463So speaking about squats.
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00:05:51.329I want to ask the next question what do you think is one of the bigger myths in bodybuilding?
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00:05:58.031Uh, biggest myth in bodybuilding uh, going super heavy, going super heavy.
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00:06:11.670Okay, I see all these youngsters is trying to bench and squat a ton of weight and, honestly, once you're up on stage, the judges ain't asking you how much you bench, how much you squat.
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00:06:13.752None of that crap matters man Mm-hmm.
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00:06:17.805You know it's what you present on stage, how it looks.
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00:06:22.084You know the muscle, you know fibers that have been built.
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00:06:28.547You know and yeah, you can stimulate some with a heavy load, but you know you got to get that hypertrophy.
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00:06:34.120So, rudy, I mean, you've done this for a long time, you own it.
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00:06:35.547You know you own a gym yourself.
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00:06:39.007Um, what did like?
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00:06:40.591Did you always like you?
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00:06:42.377You first started lifting.
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00:06:49.423What did you enjoy most about bodybuilding and like, what like just really got you to fall in love with it and want to compete.
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00:06:52.944Well, for me it was just.
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00:06:57.153You know, I'm not a big guy, I'm not a tall dude, you know.
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00:07:04.968So being bullied when I was a kid, you know, obviously forced me to find a different avenue of getting strength, you know.
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00:07:08.940So that's what kind of led me to working out, you know, hitting the weights.
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00:07:13.872You know, once you're strong, man ain't nobody messing with you, you know for sure.
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00:07:22.709From there you know it's just the challenge of the bodybuilding Because honestly, man, I never thought myself I would ever be doing that.
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00:07:26.810I was told when I was in college to you should compete, you should compete.
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00:07:31.744But honestly, I myself was like I'm good and that's not for me.
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00:07:36.129You do have an athletic background, though right, I do Right Play football and stuff in high school.
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00:07:38.124What other sports you play in high school.
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00:07:43.982Uh, I dabbled with basketball, but lifting kind of screwed that up because I would lift before practice.
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00:07:45.908So shooting basketball.
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00:07:48.646No man, that ball would fly.
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00:07:56.706I wouldn't be hitting bricks, man, it was not cool man, and you know I did.
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00:08:00.875you know coaches made us do track, you know, but I wasn't.
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00:08:01.661I wasn't running.
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00:08:09.766You know, four two, four three, and I wasn't a long distance runner, so yeah you know, pleasing the coaches, we did the track.
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00:08:10.968Yeah, did what?
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00:08:18.978you had to do yeah, that's awesome, but the part about bodybuilding, though, like what to be more specific, though, what?
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00:08:21.367What about it, though, brought joy to you, though.
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00:08:25.348Was it the fact that you basically bodybuilding is you versus you?
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00:08:26.690Yeah, it is Right.
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00:08:28.786For me it's just the total control you have.
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00:08:38.807Um, you know, in life there's so many things that come at you that you have no control over, but in the gym you dictate that Right.
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00:08:41.705You control what you do, your effort.
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00:08:49.971You know how much you put into it, right, cause I mean I tell all my clients, you know results are, you know, a product of your effort.
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00:09:13.081You know, and that's honestly what bodybuilding is you know, effort in the lifts, the training, the dieting, how you, you know, go by your recovery, you know, it all matters, you know, and just the challenge of that and, honestly, the one thing is, it's my piece, you know, with all the craziness going out, nothing matters.
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00:09:24.811When I'm in that time, right, you know, that's what I call my magic hour, where everything goes away, right, and it's just me, the weights and Therapy, yeah, yeah.
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00:09:37.870You know, I think a lot of us like we first pick up our weight with like for me it was playing football, I think, in the weight room, like 14 years old, um, I'm not sure when was the first time you picked up a weight set?
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00:09:39.586Uh, it was high school mode.
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00:09:41.445My older brother got me into weightlifting.
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00:09:42.427Adrien yeah.
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00:09:43.389Greg Plitt.
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00:09:49.422Greg Plitt was my dude back then until he got ran over and a lot different story different story for.
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00:09:52.265But yeah, high school it was my junior year, okay.
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00:09:59.847So yeah, I mean, everyone has their different kind of you know, outlets or and then weigh into, you know, pick up their first weight.
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00:10:03.111So when was the first time you picked up your first weight?
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00:10:09.971And like we're introduced to lifting just kind of the basics of it and kind of the foundation of lifting.
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00:10:13.307I was a summer going into freshman year of football.
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00:10:19.672Uh, high school, yeah, you know, before that, you know it was I wasn't ready, you know, well off to kid.
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00:10:24.131I mean, my parents did what the best they could but we didn't have any weights at home.
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00:10:32.160So once I got into playing football, you know, we know how to go to weight training, you know.
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00:10:41.145But having, you know, just done a bunch of calisthenic work when I was a kid, you know, it came easy, you know, and it's something that, honestly, I really enjoyed.
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00:10:47.971From there on, I remember my brother buying me a weight set for the outside of my house and rest was history.
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00:10:49.082That's just history, man.
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00:10:57.527Yeah, you know, I just tried to do all my homework at school so I could come home and lift, yep, and that was, that was my love my first love man.
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00:11:03.288That's the coolest thing, I think, like you know, when you get introduced to just sports in general.
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00:11:06.323Um, not for everyone, but I know for a lot of us.
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00:11:29.530It's for both you and myself, um, zach, we began in high school lifting weights and picked up our first weight and for a lot of us it was, you know, freshman football or basketball or volleyball, or a coach right, and it necessarily wasn't in super in depth, but we were introduced to it and for a lot of us it just doesn't ever leave us and we build a lifelong habit of going to the gym and things like that.
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00:11:41.091So it's one of the best things we could do is like go play sports, because you're going to get introduced to not just that sport but hopefully lifting and getting in the gym and picking up weights and things that are going to be lifelong habits for you.
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00:11:41.841Yeah, exactly.
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00:11:45.769So, so to continue to go, though, to fast forward it.
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00:11:47.443Right, you're in high school.
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00:11:49.251You found the way set.
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00:11:52.325You found the weight room, you found some people to enjoy that with.
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00:11:56.849You Start going into, like the beginning of your bodybuilding career.
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00:12:01.570You know, after the people are trying to convince you and tell you dude, you got this man, give it a go.
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00:12:05.428So tell us where and when that journey started to be like.
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00:12:08.727All right, I'm going to listen to these people, maybe, and I'm going to start taking this off.
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00:12:10.466That's a funny story.
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00:12:13.086Well, it all started back in 2012.
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00:12:43.285I remember going to the Olympia, you know, and it was a belief, the first year men's physique was introduced, yeah, and I went with the buddy and you know, guys talking shit, yeah, we were getting at each other and, you know, we made a little place, that a little wager, to see who could look better, and the only way we would decide the winner was step on stage and we were placed first or placed better yeah.
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00:12:44.321You know.
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00:12:49.659And so me, I'm like, hey, we make a bet, I'm going to go through with it, you know.
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00:12:56.714So I went through with it and ended up doing my first show in March of 2013.
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00:13:11.493I did the Jay Cutler Desert Classic and that was probably the tipping point of just setting everything off, because the experience I had it was crazy.
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00:13:12.865Yeah, it triggered it Boom.
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00:13:15.263You know I fell in love with it.
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00:13:19.663You know because, before you know, everybody wants to find their identity.
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00:13:30.481You know they want to find themselves and having done that show, I felt like really, all right, this is for you, you can do this, go for it.
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00:13:34.767You know, and you know the results of that show.
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00:13:44.499Then, after running into Jay Cutler, mr Olympia himself and the elevator and him, you know giving him some words, you know it was like oh shit.
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00:13:46.666Do you remember some of the words he gave?
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00:13:54.307No, it was more like I had you winning, you had you winning the whole show, Wow.
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00:13:56.222And I was like, oh shoot, this is my first show.
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00:13:57.846Like really, you know, yeah.
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00:13:59.230That had to give you confidence.
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00:14:10.951Oh yeah, it boosted my confidence from there on and that just really kind of like okay man, mr Olympia, you know things that let's see what we can do with this, you know.
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00:14:12.344Damn man.
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00:14:24.010I didn't have confidence from that they watched my call it so like shoot go ahead.
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00:14:38.908Yeah, so you know you, so you get done with that first competition and so, like, when you get back home, what's kind of the feeling like, what's the the mindset, like you obviously are going to have a bunch of confidence coming off of that.
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00:14:43.510So was it just like okay, let's get back in the gym, obviously, and let's get to the next one.
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00:14:46.066Yeah, that was exactly what the mindset was.
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00:14:50.764It was like Set everything in motion, huh, so like all right, we got second at this show.
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00:14:51.447Right.
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00:14:53.451Yeah, we got second at the first show.
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00:14:56.707Let's, let's go see what we can do now.
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00:14:59.245Okay, let's put the foot on the pedal.
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00:15:02.775And so what, when you, when you do get back, you get back to the drawing board.
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00:15:09.072What were the changes that you knew you had to make to get to the next level and to to win the thing?
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00:15:11.745I believe it was probably more presentation.
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00:15:13.765You know, it's just.
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00:15:19.269I mean, you can have the best physique, but if you don't know how to present it up there on stage, it really knocks you man.
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00:15:22.529And the fact that it was my first show, I was nervous as hell, man.
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00:15:31.565I mean being out there in a speedo half naked, you know in a theater full of people that you've never done this before.
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00:15:32.768It's like holy crap.
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00:15:36.727You know it really hits you once they call your name and go up on stage.
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00:15:38.600You know and you know.
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00:15:41.828I just remember forgetting everything.
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00:15:43.902And I was like oh crap.
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00:15:45.924Here we go.
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00:15:47.467Like your routine and everything.
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00:15:47.849Yeah.
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00:15:50.472Yeah, cause I mean, posing is difficult man.
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00:15:50.774Yeah.
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00:16:02.030It's not just go up there and flex as hard as you can yeah, do that, you're going to pass out but the thing is is so it's like you go, you, everything's starting to be set in motion, right?
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00:16:05.929You know you got some like all right, I got a chance in this.
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00:16:17.408I'm going to take as far as I could go Once you get to that point, right, how difficult, you know, cause you got hit in the chin quite a few times, you know, during that road, right?
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00:16:23.572And you're already in a sport where it, remember, it's you versus you, right?
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00:16:33.030So you know, what advice would you give to these young guys and young women that are aspiring to be, you know, bodybuilders and competitive bodybuilders?
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00:16:45.004Right, cause it's one thing to this is how I put it Whenever I go and I get people that say they want to be bodybuilders I don't really get a whole lot of them anymore, but I always ask Mark, do you want to?
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00:16:48.231You want to participation trophy or do you want to compete?
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00:16:52.363Cause there's a significant difference in who you're going to be and who you're going to be going against.
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00:16:54.546What advice would you give those people?
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00:16:57.926Well, that's honestly the same thing.
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00:17:00.772I tell them no, you want to do it for fun or you want to win.
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00:17:02.844You know it's only two roads.
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00:17:18.759You know, and it honestly, you weed out a lot of people that way, because people just see the social media, the glitz and glamour, but no, man, it's really tough, you know.
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00:17:30.470I would say you really, really have to love and have a passion for this stuff, because there's a lot more dark days and there are bright days.
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00:17:37.361Right, and like he said, man, I had to eat a lot of humble pie on my road, you know, to be coming to pro.
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00:17:41.329Um, there was ups but there was a lot of downs.
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00:17:42.432There's a lot of doubt.
00:17:42.432 -->
00:17:43.723That's honestly the biggest one.
00:17:44.720 -->
00:17:45.903People tend to start doubting themselves.
00:17:45.903 -->
00:17:48.569You know, and you also got to build thick skin, man.
00:17:48.569 -->
00:17:58.109You got to build thick skin because you're subjecting yourself to be critiqued and you got to be able to take those critiques and build off of them.
00:17:58.109 -->
00:18:01.489You know, some people get critiqued and they fall apart.
00:18:01.489 -->
00:18:06.490Right, they're weak minded and they'll start getting down on themselves and they quit.
00:18:06.490 -->
00:18:10.384You know, the others, you know, take that critique.
00:18:11.445 -->
00:18:12.990Go to work, go to work, yeah.
00:18:13.230 -->
00:18:15.646I gotta build it, whatever.
00:18:15.646 -->
00:18:18.915Maybe that they say you need more legs back chest, whatever.
00:18:18.915 -->
00:18:23.817You just gotta make the plan and execute.
00:18:23.817 -->
00:18:25.288It's all in execution.
00:18:25.971 -->
00:18:28.366Right, yeah, because bodybuilding is never ending, man.
00:18:28.366 -->
00:18:30.809No, I mean, even when you win a show, there's still something.
00:18:30.809 -->
00:18:34.474Yeah, it's another pursuit of perfection Exactly, exactly.
00:18:34.634 -->
00:18:35.777Yeah, never satisfied.
00:18:35.777 -->
00:18:37.138You can't be right.
00:18:37.138 -->
00:18:44.964No, you're going to the different competitions and getting ready training.
00:18:44.964 -->
00:18:46.964What's that training routine?
00:18:46.964 -->
00:18:55.914What did it look like for you in your prep leading up to a competition, both the diet and your lifting routines as well?
00:18:55.914 -->
00:19:05.396Let's just say, maybe six weeks out or so, what are those last six weeks leading up to your competition your prep look like?
00:19:06.891 -->
00:19:08.884Not very different man, not very different.
00:19:08.884 -->
00:19:15.278The one thing that I've learned with this is you gotta keep training the way you train.
00:19:16.627 -->
00:19:25.509You gotta have trust One in your coach in your training, your trainer if you have one that you're doing, the work that you need to do.
00:19:25.509 -->
00:19:41.634All dots, all I should be dotted to you, should be crossed within those weeks, because you don't want to come to a week or two weeks out and start trying to do some crazy manipulations of different things, trying to push other things.
00:19:41.634 -->
00:20:00.037The work is done 14 weeks out, 18 weeks out and how you go into the prep, by six weeks out you should be cruising, dialed in, yeah, dialing it in, getting ready to really pretty much more work on the posing, working on presentation.
00:20:00.037 -->
00:20:05.415That's tuned up so that way when you're up on stage you don't have a hiccup.
00:20:05.415 -->
00:20:16.111You want to make sure the muscle memory is there Because, again, I tell my competitors, once they call your name, your butterflies, all that nerves is going to hit you.
00:20:16.964 -->
00:20:24.308And if the muscle memory of posing and the way you present yourself isn't there, it's going to get rough, right.
00:20:28.151 -->
00:20:32.924It's like because not very many people show up to their first show shredded ready.
00:20:32.924 -->
00:20:34.431You know what I mean?
00:20:34.431 -->
00:20:48.411It's just basically an introduction, like okay, you got a taste of the lights, you got a tan in a place where you never thought you'd get tan before, but not to disrespect them, but they put in the work and they put in the hours and they put in the training and stuff, like that.
00:20:48.411 -->
00:20:55.156Like, very, very few people come in like fully loaded, ready to take over a first show.
00:20:55.156 -->
00:21:00.256So what, though, to those type of people?
00:21:00.256 -->
00:21:06.431Right, and usually they're younger, you know, they're younger cats out there that just want to get into the field of bodybuilding.
00:21:07.884 -->
00:21:11.433When you get, because you're a coach, you coach people, you coach the competitors.
00:21:11.433 -->
00:21:15.071Now, right, because you don't longer compete yourself, not right now.
00:21:15.071 -->
00:21:21.271Right, You're more focused on the wisdom and the knowledge and the experience onto the younger dudes now, and girls and girls, right.
00:21:21.271 -->
00:21:31.474So when you kind of know more or less, all right, you know somebody walks through your door and then you know we quite aren't there yet.
00:21:31.474 -->
00:21:34.271You know what I mean, but they still want to go through with it.
00:21:34.271 -->
00:21:35.589What is it that you tell them now?
00:21:35.589 -->
00:21:40.071Okay, this is what we're trying to execute, then this is what we're going to go and try to get done at this show.
00:21:40.071 -->
00:21:40.854You know what I mean.
00:21:40.854 -->
00:21:43.333How do you help them through that type of process?
00:21:43.746 -->
00:21:49.049Well, I mean, everybody wants to have that dream of hitting the first show and hitting the home run, right?
00:21:49.049 -->
00:21:50.849But nobody hits a home run in the first.
00:21:50.849 -->
00:21:51.932That bet you know.
00:21:52.525 -->
00:21:58.994So it's honestly getting your feet wet, making sure that you know again, we're going to try to do our best to prep you there.
00:21:58.994 -->
00:22:02.113Now it's just getting on that stage, right.
00:22:02.113 -->
00:22:07.215You know, just stepping on stage is a huge accomplishment because a lot of people fall off.
00:22:07.215 -->
00:22:13.130You know I've had people that have wanted to do it but they fall off because it's tough and you know they're leading to these last couple of weeks.
00:22:13.130 -->
00:22:15.730It's more mentally draining than anything.
00:22:15.730 -->
00:22:21.497You know the body will do it, but it's in here the way you start feeling it by yourself.
00:22:21.497 -->
00:22:23.607You start having doubts of oh, am I ready?
00:22:24.229 -->
00:22:24.769I'm not ready.
00:22:25.090 -->
00:22:28.617Right, Okay, I don't look good today, I look great today.
00:22:28.617 -->
00:22:36.230You know, and you're just back and forth, back and forth in your own head and you know that's sometimes the biggest killer of all is doubt.
00:22:36.230 -->
00:22:42.453You know Stress yeah, it is, and it becomes quite stressful, you know.
00:22:42.453 -->
00:22:53.390That's why, you know, with my guys, I just try to minimize the amount of stress that they have, you know, and just you know, be their little, you know, conscious on their shoulder telling them hey, you got this.
00:22:53.691 -->
00:22:58.586Yeah, we got this you know we're doing great, you're right on track, you know.
00:22:58.586 -->
00:23:00.271If they're not on track I'll let them know.
00:23:00.271 -->
00:23:10.211No, like, hey, we got to pull it, let's push it, push the show, right you know I mean, because in bodybuilding there's no winning and losing, there's only winning and learning.
00:23:10.211 -->
00:23:12.155Yes, you know what I mean Because you have to see it.
00:23:13.325 -->
00:23:17.551Every single show is a new experience, a new body, a new mindset, new, everything right.
00:23:17.732 -->
00:23:19.035Yeah, not every prep's the same.
00:23:19.496 -->
00:23:19.736Yeah.
00:23:19.916 -->
00:23:20.798You can't die the same.
00:23:20.798 -->
00:23:23.509You know you can't expect to get the same result.
00:23:23.509 -->
00:23:25.256You know doing the same shit.
00:23:25.256 -->
00:23:27.210You know that's definition of insanity right.
00:23:27.250 -->
00:23:35.413Right exactly so yeah, there's always challenges and different obstacles that come up and you know different preps and different you know preparing for different shows as well.
00:23:35.653 -->
00:23:38.892Yeah, I mean, we are not even talking about the outside factors that you're talking about.
00:23:38.892 -->
00:23:45.386You know what I mean Just jobs and girlfriends and boyfriends and this and that and type of stuff, because that's all factored in, man.
00:23:45.386 -->
00:23:46.931Yeah, it's all factored in.
00:23:46.931 -->
00:23:47.913There's so many things.
00:23:48.053 -->
00:23:56.307Yeah, so, yeah, I mean so going back to you, back to your career, I mean leading up to you know getting your pro card.
00:23:56.307 -->
00:24:01.877That obviously became a goal of yours and you know, something you wanted to accomplish.
00:24:01.877 -->
00:24:17.111So what was it like leading up to that show and what was that kind of feeling like when you were able to, you know, earn your pro card and now you know, be basically the only you were the only one is, I believe, still the only one in Tulare County to have your classic physique pro card.
00:24:17.111 -->
00:24:21.233What was that whole lead up and what was that feeling like of you know earning that?
00:24:22.404 -->
00:24:27.795Well, I mean, you do it for the ones that want to see you win.
00:24:27.795 -->
00:24:32.470You know, and with me I had, you know, a card of people on my corner.
00:24:32.470 -->
00:24:34.695You know I had Zach in my corner at the time.
00:24:34.695 -->
00:24:35.605You know.
00:24:35.605 -->
00:24:41.788I had, you know, some of my clients that were just there seeing me every day, that would come in and work with me and just see me.
00:24:41.788 -->
00:24:44.516You know, I had, you know, my wife.
00:24:44.516 -->
00:24:47.529She was there behind you know, supporting me.
00:24:47.529 -->
00:24:49.914You know they had my baby boy.
00:24:49.954 -->
00:24:57.387He was a baby, you know just looking at them every morning when I had to get up at 3.30 in the morning, go do my cardio.
00:24:57.387 -->
00:25:00.098You know, and that's what I tell them.
00:25:00.098 -->
00:25:01.464You know my guys, do it.
00:25:01.505 -->
00:25:07.213For the ones that want to see you win, Get all the negativity, all the naysayers, let them talk.
00:25:07.213 -->
00:25:13.156You do the work, you know, and for myself it was just getting up and doing it.
00:25:13.156 -->
00:25:14.548There's no other way to do it.
00:25:14.548 -->
00:25:15.772Just do it Right.
00:25:15.772 -->
00:25:23.854You know, no matter how you feel, you're going to feel like crap, You're going to be tired, You're going to be hungry, you know.
00:25:23.854 -->
00:25:31.545Just do it, you know, because you're never going to know your full potential unless you actually try and you fight and you fight to get through it.
00:25:31.545 -->
00:25:37.012Every freaking day, every day, man, and for myself, going into that, I suffered.
00:25:37.012 -->
00:25:39.588I suffered a lot, you know.
00:25:39.588 -->
00:25:45.826Honestly, I felt like I was dying, every day, from the diet, from the cardio.
00:25:45.826 -->
00:25:50.432You know, the trainings were sometimes brutal.
00:25:50.432 -->
00:26:00.477You know, it was rough, you know, but you know, getting that nod at the end, it made it all worth it.
00:26:00.984 -->
00:26:08.366You know, I went in there with the feeling of whatever happens, I did everything I possibly could.
00:26:08.366 -->
00:26:11.271I burned every calorie of cardio I could.
00:26:11.271 -->
00:26:18.358I didn't eat anything orly, you know, I stuck to my diet 100, you know.
00:26:18.358 -->
00:26:26.516And the training I gave it all my effort, posing everything, everything, everything was all.
00:26:26.516 -->
00:26:32.576My teeth were crossed and at that point it was just hey, at this point I'm going to let the cards fall where they fall.
00:26:33.727 -->
00:26:41.411And you know, let's see what happens, let's see what's up and this was in Vegas, right, Vegas, this is the he did the pro I mean.
00:26:41.411 -->
00:26:43.142So tell people how that kind of is.
00:26:43.142 -->
00:26:48.836You know there's five shows throughout the calendar year that he is a still five, I think so.
00:26:48.836 -->
00:26:56.731Right, and you correct me if I'm wrong, but did you try a, a qualification or to get your pro card in Florida, Was that?
00:26:57.373 -->
00:26:57.992I tried twice.
00:26:57.992 -->
00:26:59.694I tried twice, yeah, so people.
00:27:00.236 -->
00:27:01.217He failed more than once.
00:27:01.237 -->
00:27:02.218Yeah, you know what I mean.
00:27:02.278 -->
00:27:03.338He failed more than once.
00:27:03.338 -->
00:27:05.786Oh yeah, but he came.
00:27:05.786 -->
00:27:06.548He came to Vegas.
00:27:06.970 -->
00:27:09.349Yeah, my first try was in 2013.
00:27:09.349 -->
00:27:11.851I got a little big headed after winning my first show.
00:27:11.851 -->
00:27:14.711You know, you get, you know, big headed.
00:27:14.711 -->
00:27:16.070You want to go give it a shot.
00:27:16.070 -->
00:27:25.093So I ended up going to nationals out and it was in Fort Lauderdale in Florida that year and that was probably I got served the biggest piece of pie that day.
00:27:25.093 -->
00:27:26.457You know, humble pie.
00:27:26.765 -->
00:27:37.315Just being backstage with all these incredible physics, man, you really get your eyes open to what you really need to bring to these types of shows.
00:27:37.315 -->
00:27:42.214You know, these regional shows, man, they're nothing compared to national shows.
00:27:42.214 -->
00:27:55.894You're going up against anywhere between 30 to 40 dudes or girls that are just as high caliber as you, that have won one or multiple overall regional shows.
00:27:55.894 -->
00:28:03.154You know, and you really, you really get to see the quality of the work that these people have put in.
00:28:03.154 -->
00:28:08.776And you know, being back there, I was like damn, what the hell am I doing here?
00:28:08.776 -->
00:28:11.692I I'm not supposed to be here right now.
00:28:11.692 -->
00:28:21.191I got a ways to go, you know, and so that was more encouraging to me to all, right, let's work, let's put the work and see what we can do.
00:28:22.204 -->
00:28:25.190You know, and I revisited Florida in 2015,.
00:28:25.190 -->
00:28:35.528You know, two years later, feeling confident, you know, had a, got hooked up with a new coach, exactly the time was handling my training.
00:28:35.528 -->
00:28:44.246You know, when we were, we were going in, you know, going for it, you know, but at the same time, I mean you never know who shows up to these shows.
00:28:44.246 -->
00:28:51.289You know we ended up going up against this guy and I had played second at the USA that year.
00:28:51.289 -->
00:28:53.756Big dude, big dude.
00:28:53.756 -->
00:28:58.836Having talked to him backstage, a strategy he told me was he was supposed to be a light heavyweight.
00:28:58.836 -->
00:29:01.144He was supposed to be a light heavyweight.
00:29:01.285 -->
00:29:07.895He's a whole lot of muscle and this guy, he suffered and he pushed himself to suffer and make the middleweight class.
00:29:08.964 -->
00:29:11.510And once he filled it out, man lights out.
00:29:11.510 -->
00:29:13.336Wow, he smoked us.
00:29:13.336 -->
00:29:14.946You know, he smoked all of us.
00:29:14.946 -->
00:29:25.726You know, and I was fortunate to play six that year, Um, at that national show which was way improved, much improved from the first time, Uh-huh, you know.
00:29:25.726 -->
00:29:35.069But having talked to him and getting that feedback, you know, I came back home and hit up the coach and was like, hey, this is what we got to do.
00:29:35.069 -->
00:29:36.792Yeah, you know, we got to get there.
00:29:36.792 -->
00:29:37.473We got to condition.
00:29:37.473 -->
00:29:39.257No conditioning wins man.
00:29:39.758 -->
00:29:40.018Exactly.
00:29:40.038 -->
00:29:43.329Conditioning wins, and I looked at my condition, at you know, that national show.
00:29:43.329 -->
00:29:47.690Compared to that, dudes, we had a lot of room for improvement.
00:29:47.690 -->
00:29:50.830So from then on, it was just hey, it's on, let's go.
00:29:50.830 -->
00:29:52.114Usa's baby.
00:29:52.114 -->
00:29:53.457That was all on my mind.
00:29:53.457 -->
00:29:56.051Usa's 2016.
00:29:56.152 -->
00:30:08.792Usa's- so when you were, when you were over there, you know, and you're in those rooms full of those people that are just, you know, opening up your eyes and stuff, like that, and you're thinking to yourself man, I'm not supposed to be here.
00:30:08.792 -->
00:30:12.657Why, though, what, what part of your body made you feel that way?
00:30:12.657 -->
00:30:13.986Was it biceps, like?
00:30:13.986 -->
00:30:18.673Tell people what it was that made you have that thought no, it was, it was condition.
00:30:18.673 -->
00:30:20.140It was just conditioning, it was conditioning.
00:30:20.484 -->
00:30:23.894I really got to see the next level of conditioning that these guys attain.
00:30:23.894 -->
00:30:38.213You know it's different when you think you're walking around, you're big and you know you're feeling good, but then you see this guy that's completely peeled and you're like what the hell is that thing?
00:30:38.505 -->
00:30:40.191That thing is a freaking anatomy chart.
00:30:40.191 -->
00:30:42.207Yep, you know.
00:30:42.207 -->
00:30:46.576So that was the main thing the way they carry themselves, you know, you know.
00:30:46.576 -->
00:30:51.232One of my coaches was like hey, you carry yourself like a pro, you want to be pro.
00:30:51.232 -->
00:31:03.255Carry yourself like a pro, you know, and that's what you gotta do, you know, not BSing with your diet off season, not taking off season and having a bunch of junk shit.
00:31:03.325 -->
00:31:06.673You know, you know except that it's a lifestyle.
00:31:06.854 -->
00:31:08.196It is it is a lifestyle.
00:31:08.196 -->
00:31:09.470It's either you're gonna do it or not.
00:31:09.845 -->
00:31:10.026Right.
00:31:10.026 -->
00:31:32.773So you know when you're saying that, it's like you tell people exactly how hard it is to peak for a show, because you talk about conditioning you talked about being shredded, because I mean it matters Tell people exactly how difficult that process is.
00:31:33.645 -->
00:31:36.974Ah, man, that takes a couple of shows to really nail down.
00:31:36.974 -->
00:31:44.528You know, I had a few shows under my belt, quite a few shows under my belt, trying to find different strategies to try to fill out.
00:31:44.528 -->
00:31:51.569You know because, again, you know you gotta really be in tune with what you're eating, how well you follow your.
00:31:51.569 -->
00:31:58.453You know your diet plans that your coach puts you on, you know, and trying to see what really works for your body.
00:31:58.453 -->
00:32:01.213Because it's like I said, no, not every prep's the same.
00:32:01.213 -->
00:32:03.589You know you put on more muscle tissue.
00:32:03.589 -->
00:32:06.849You know you can't expect the same result with doing the same thing.
00:32:06.849 -->
00:32:10.148So you gotta figure out what works best for you, what foods work best for you.
00:32:10.810 -->
00:32:13.672You know, throughout that prep I found potato don't work for me.
00:32:13.672 -->
00:32:16.731No, my gut would get off bloated.
00:32:16.731 -->
00:32:37.691You know some guys, you know carb up and load up with pancakes and stuff like that, junk meals yeah, you know sugary stuff they didn't you know they didn't sit well for me, man you know, and like, once we got to the USA's, you know, when I won my pro-card, you know we tried to stick to the diet foods that we were doing for the first day.
00:32:38.365 -->
00:32:43.050But you know, I'm pretty sure as I remember, we were just having enough food but my body was just sucking it up.
00:32:43.325 -->
00:32:43.846What was it?
00:32:43.846 -->
00:32:46.367It was an oatmeal, it was a it was just rice.
00:32:46.367 -->
00:32:49.848Wasn't there a cream of wheat, cream of wheat.
00:32:49.848 -->
00:32:52.451There you go, yeah, and it wasn't doing nothing.
00:32:52.692 -->
00:32:55.492You know, my body was just kind of like it's spongy.
00:32:56.413 -->
00:33:04.730And it would just right and it would fly and back out, you know, but luckily for me, I was, you know, I had almost about two days from having to step on stage.
00:33:04.730 -->
00:33:05.886You know, we made way.
00:33:05.886 -->
00:33:07.511I believe it was a Thursday afternoon.
00:33:07.511 -->
00:33:14.394I wasn't scheduled to step on stage until Saturday morning, so it was a good time to try to fill back out.
00:33:14.394 -->
00:33:20.213And for myself it was, you know, my conditioning was always, I felt, was always great.
00:33:20.213 -->
00:33:24.109You know, I always pushed my conditioning because, again, conditioning wins.
00:33:24.109 -->
00:33:24.751That's what we were told.
00:33:25.053 -->
00:33:25.273Yeah.
00:33:25.904 -->
00:33:27.686And so you try to push that conditioning with the cardio.
00:33:27.686 -->
00:33:45.551You know the dieting and fortunately for myself, you know I was really well conditioned and so we were able to kind of have a little bit of a gamble, you know, and the coach saw that, you know, our regular diet foods weren't working, so he gave me some junk meals.
00:33:45.551 -->
00:33:46.787You know burger and fries.
00:33:46.787 -->
00:33:54.432You know I needed that sodium, I needed those fats from those types of food, along with the carbs and stuff like that to really help.
00:33:54.664 -->
00:33:56.351Replenish your muscles, yeah, yeah.
00:33:57.345 -->
00:34:01.214Yeah, cause I remember waking up Saturday morning it was freaky.
00:34:01.275 -->
00:34:06.494Yeah, it was freaky man, Cause I remembered nutrition not really being a hard thing.
00:34:06.494 -->
00:34:08.672I mean, don't get me wrong, you know what I mean.
00:34:08.672 -->
00:34:12.195It's a challenge you know, birthday parties and this and that.
00:34:12.304 -->
00:34:15.454But to me that was never the issue for you.
00:34:15.454 -->
00:34:16.115You know what I mean.
00:34:16.115 -->
00:34:18.525The meals was never the hard part for you.
00:34:18.525 -->
00:34:20.512Personally speaking, you know what I mean.
00:34:20.512 -->
00:34:22.168To me it was just time.
00:34:22.168 -->
00:34:24.074Yeah, it was just a matter of time.
00:34:24.074 -->
00:34:33.268Yeah, and I'm not trying to be careless about that because, like you said, you got a humble pie more than once and that time could come back and bite you in the ass, you know, and take you out of the race.
00:34:33.268 -->
00:34:40.016Yeah, but to me the most challenging thing was being patient.
00:34:40.016 -->
00:34:40.577That was it.
00:34:40.697 -->
00:34:45.335Yeah, so the nutrition is not easy for most.
00:34:45.335 -->
00:34:50.172Right, you know, eating the same thing, period, just time after time after time after time.
00:34:50.172 -->
00:34:53.414The cardio, yeah, I mean that's never fun, you know what I mean.
00:34:53.414 -->
00:34:54.789But you never had an issue.
00:34:54.789 -->
00:34:59.833You know, putting your ass up there for an hour, sometimes twice a day, with training and so on and so forth.
00:34:59.833 -->
00:35:03.989I won't say training was too difficult for you, but I mean it wasn't easy either.
00:35:03.989 -->
00:35:05.393No, you know what I mean.
00:35:05.393 -->
00:35:08.351So it was just, it was a lot of sacrifice.
00:35:08.954 -->
00:35:09.233It was.
00:35:09.804 -->
00:35:16.309But I think the biggest takeaway of what I'm trying to say is for these people that are listening is just gosh damn, be patient.
00:35:16.630 -->
00:35:16.951Yeah.
00:35:17.211 -->
00:35:17.974Just be patient.
00:35:17.974 -->
00:35:19.268Stop trying to rush shit.
00:35:19.550 -->
00:35:20.293That's the main thing.
00:35:20.293 -->
00:35:22.632You gotta enjoy the stuff you're going through, man.
00:35:22.632 -->
00:35:26.333Like I tell my youngsters, man, I was fortunate to go pro in three years.
00:35:27.005 -->
00:35:27.568Oh quick.
00:35:28.144 -->
00:35:30.052Well, not a lot of people accomplished that.
00:35:31.628 -->
00:35:34.835But you had a long resume of listing though.
00:35:34.856 -->
00:35:35.617You know what I mean.
00:35:35.744 -->
00:35:39.530You're not like people that just get out of high school and just want to pick up a weight and say I want to be a bodybuilder.
00:35:39.590 -->
00:35:40.373No, no, no.
00:35:41.445 -->
00:35:42.952You crafted your physique for years.
00:35:43.465 -->
00:36:02.268Yeah, I was 27, going to be 27, I believe when I was first stepped on stage, so I had some mature muscle on me Overall, I believe it was a little bit more chore in the head not trying to do what some of these youngsters do and, like you said, rush it.
00:36:02.268 -->
00:36:07.972Honestly, I just feel that a lot of the time is now these youngsters try to try to rush it.
00:36:07.992 -->
00:36:08.594Try to rush it.
00:36:09.487 -->
00:36:10.329And with bodybuilding.
00:36:10.329 -->
00:36:13.451It is what it is, man you ain't going to rush bodybuilding.
00:36:13.586 -->
00:36:14.864I'll tell you that right now.
00:36:14.864 -->
00:36:15.788That's how you get hurt.
00:36:15.788 -->
00:36:16.731Yeah, you know what?
00:36:16.751 -->
00:36:16.952I mean.
00:36:16.952 -->
00:36:26.875So I guess kind of piggybacking off that, what do you believe are some of the biggest mistakes that some of these young bodybuilders are making?
00:36:26.875 -->
00:36:32.210Or these people that want to get into bodybuilding, like, what are the biggest mistakes they're making getting into it?
00:36:32.210 -->
00:36:33.329What if we're starting out?
00:36:36.367 -->
00:36:40.248Well, that goes into the dark side, man of the bodybuilding.
00:36:40.489 -->
00:36:40.610Yeah.
00:36:40.650 -->
00:36:41.271We could go there.
00:36:41.271 -->
00:36:50.911And that is dabbling with stuff and sometimes these youngsters don't know what the hell they're doing Dabbling with certain performance enhancers.
00:36:50.911 -->
00:36:55.925You know that I mean it's bodybuilding, especially at this.
00:36:55.925 -->
00:36:58.032You know they're a given.
00:36:58.032 -->
00:37:00.971You're going to be using them, especially if you want to reach the top levels.
00:37:01.331 -->
00:37:02.054Yeah, yeah.
00:37:02.965 -->
00:37:04.206It is what it is, you know.
00:37:04.206 -->
00:37:05.451That's why you got to make the choice.
00:37:05.451 -->
00:37:09.074Either do it for fun or you do it to win.
00:37:09.074 -->
00:37:17.150And if you do it for winning, I'm sorry, but there's going to come a time where you're going to have to make that choice.
00:37:17.150 -->
00:37:18.514Mm-hmm, you know.
00:37:19.224 -->
00:37:21.711But that doesn't mean, do it carelessly, no Right.
00:37:22.293 -->
00:37:23.967No, no, no and honestly, that's the.
00:37:23.967 -->
00:37:25.106I believe that's the biggest mistake.
00:37:25.106 -->
00:37:44.965You know, A lot of these cats don't try to, you know, reach a plateau naturally, Right, you know of what they could do, you know and what they could build naturally, before they start dabbling with things that you know sometimes they're not even educated about Right, or sometimes they're just trusting you know some gym bro.
00:37:44.965 -->
00:37:49.074You know that isn't really educated.
00:37:49.094 -->
00:37:49.896Qualified yeah.
00:37:50.016 -->
00:37:54.692Right, even those types of devices, mm-hmm, you know yeah.
00:37:55.634 -->
00:37:56.976Go ahead Go ahead.
00:37:57.364 -->
00:38:05.909Well, to go back to what he just said, it's like you know you could speed up the process with enhancements.
00:38:06.128 -->
00:38:06.329Yeah.
00:38:06.449 -->
00:38:06.831You can.
00:38:06.831 -->
00:38:08.286I mean for crying out.
00:38:08.286 -->
00:38:14.967I gained 60 pounds in six months for crying out loud, like you could do it and it will do that for you, but you can't speed up maturity.
00:38:15.268 -->
00:38:15.708No, you can't.
00:38:15.889 -->
00:38:16.971You can't Mm-hmm.
00:38:16.971 -->
00:38:18.153That's built through experience.
00:38:18.153 -->
00:38:23.434Yeah, period, and that's the thing that steroids don't do for you.
00:38:23.773 -->
00:38:23.914No.
00:38:24.585 -->
00:38:27.833So again I mean shoot.
00:38:27.833 -->
00:38:32.891We're hearing about dudes TK and O before they're even 40.
00:38:33.211 -->
00:38:33.311Yeah.
00:38:34.085 -->
00:38:54.713Because they are pushing things that might I mean I won't say it's necessary because I don't know their backstory yeah, sure, I don't know what they're trying to accomplish or what they're trying to do or who they're listening to, but there's, I can't figure out a legitimate reason for these individuals to just be like, I mean, we're talking some high profile names.
00:38:55.014 -->
00:38:55.275Yeah.
00:38:55.864 -->
00:38:58.552You know, just passing away, before they turn 40.
00:38:59.134 -->
00:38:59.335Yeah.
00:38:59.945 -->
00:39:01.168Because they're.
00:39:01.168 -->
00:39:06.994It's one of those things where it's like you go and you talk about a lot of it.
00:39:06.994 -->
00:39:09.028I would like I don't.
00:39:09.028 -->
00:39:09.992How would I put this?
00:39:09.992 -->
00:39:11.530It's just stress management.
00:39:11.530 -->
00:39:17.112You gotta be able to learn stress management before you do anything bodybuilding related.
00:39:17.112 -->
00:39:17.994You know what I'm saying.
00:39:17.994 -->
00:39:20.692If you can't control stress, that's gonna eat you up.
00:39:20.692 -->
00:39:21.373You're done.
00:39:21.373 -->
00:39:25.431Yeah, you will never peak, you will never reach that full potential.
00:39:25.431 -->
00:39:26.168You just won't.
00:39:26.168 -->
00:39:33.192So to me, that right there, that's the conversation that needs to happen before anything else gets set in motion.
00:39:33.192 -->
00:39:36.670Yeah, let's talk about your stress man, where you sitting at right now.
00:39:36.670 -->
00:39:41.032Let's talk about that before we talk about rep sets and what we're doing as far as bodybuilding splits.
00:39:41.224 -->
00:39:48.016No well, like I said, stress is the killer of all man, and bodybuilding is a very selfish sport.
00:39:48.664 -->
00:39:55.666It's very demanding and when you have a lot of responsibilities, like for myself now.
00:39:55.666 -->
00:39:59.617I have my gym and have a family, I have kids.
00:39:59.617 -->
00:40:06.052I don't want to just be a parent there, I want to be interactive with my kids.
00:40:06.052 -->
00:40:15.329I want to be conscious of the things that with them and be interactive with them, because otherwise I mean you become a zombie and that's not fun.
00:40:15.329 -->
00:40:21.030I was at a zombie point once and I look back and I'm like man, I regret it.
00:40:21.030 -->
00:40:38.777There's times where I miss certain milestones with my son enjoying certain wins and birthdays and stuff like that, because I was so stressed oh, I want to go pro.
00:40:38.777 -->
00:40:40.784I got to get this cardio done.
00:40:40.784 -->
00:40:41.985I got to get this training done.
00:40:41.985 -->
00:40:43.853I got to go get this meal in.
00:40:43.853 -->
00:40:58.036Now it's just, I'm trying to just level it out, trying to be there for my kids Got my wife she's in school right now so I got to pick up the slack with the kids doing that.
00:40:58.036 -->
00:41:06.585More balanced lifestyle, more balanced and sometimes you don't have enough time in a day.
00:41:07.112 -->
00:41:18.831You don't have enough hours in a day, you don't have hours in a day to do everything that you want, and you know yourself being a business owner, a lot of the stuff falls on you.
00:41:18.831 -->
00:41:20.110You got to take care of it.
00:41:20.110 -->
00:41:21.248You got to get it done.
00:41:21.248 -->
00:41:24.293A lot of people rely on you.
00:41:24.684 -->
00:41:27.929Right, yeah, I think what?
00:41:27.929 -->
00:41:31.570Because I mean, just like you said, you're a business owner as well.
00:41:31.570 -->
00:41:38.072You own your own gym and things like that, and people always ask me it's like Zach, what's the worst part about your job?
00:41:38.072 -->
00:41:41.510Well, it depends on which one you're talking about, Because I'm a trainer and an owner.
00:41:41.510 -->
00:41:43.528I hate being an owner.
00:41:43.528 -->
00:41:53.972I love what it brings, I love the opportunities that it creates, but the paperwork, the stuff that goes behind closed door, that busy stuff I'm not about that man.
00:41:53.972 -->
00:42:03.451So, to go back to what you're saying, it would be very difficult to try to aspire to be a great bodybuilder and a great business owner and a great dad and a great.
00:42:03.451 -->
00:42:04.507You get what I mean.
00:42:04.608 -->
00:42:13.371So, it's like you need to have that hard conversation with yourself to tell yourself okay, what is it that I want to be great at right now?
00:42:13.731 -->
00:42:14.092Exactly.
00:42:14.092 -->
00:42:15.096That's honestly what it is.
00:42:15.096 -->
00:42:15.791Is it?
00:42:15.791 -->
00:42:16.096Do you have?
00:42:16.096 -->
00:42:20.175Do you have what it takes to be dabbling with bodybuilding?
00:42:20.175 -->
00:42:41.090And that's what I tell my competitors you got to be able to manage your stressors and for one, some of these they're young, so they don't have kids yet I tell them don't rush into having kids, because once those little things pop out, your world gets turned upside down and it's no longer just about you.
00:42:41.090 -->
00:42:48.077They come first and that's again.
00:42:48.077 -->
00:42:57.394It's time Trying to manage time and not letting time get away from you, because before you know it, they're bigger.
00:42:57.394 -->
00:43:00.329You miss some time with them.
00:43:00.630 -->
00:43:05.574Yep, this was one thing money can't buy it's time, it's time you can't get it back either.
00:43:05.574 -->
00:43:06.516Nope, it's gone.
00:43:06.516 -->
00:43:16.652So to kind of now take this in a different direction, right, I want to talk about training.
00:43:16.652 -->
00:43:20.952You know kind of talked about nutrition and stuff like that, but I want to talk about training.
00:43:20.952 -->
00:43:28.231What is your personal philosophy about training for a competitive bodybuilder?
00:43:29.387 -->
00:43:30.670Well, that is just.
00:43:30.670 -->
00:43:33.157You know, honestly, it's contraction.
00:43:33.157 -->
00:43:34.708You got to know.
00:43:34.708 -->
00:43:40.090The point of bodybuilding is building as many muscle fibers as you can, trying to activate as much muscle fibers as you can.
00:43:40.090 -->
00:43:43.614You know, and that's the name of the game, you know.
00:43:43.614 -->
00:43:54.753So with my guys, we know we practice a lot of time under tension, different types you know, overall, having control, control the way, allowing yourself to fully contract the muscle right.
00:43:54.905 -->
00:43:58.608You know it's not how you move it, you know it's up and down.
00:43:58.608 -->
00:44:00.789Point eight to one, it's the in between.
00:44:00.789 -->
00:44:04.614You know how you're performing the exercise, how you execute it Right.
00:44:04.614 -->
00:44:09.711You know that way you can get the full you know result and the full effect out of the exercise.
00:44:10.052 -->
00:44:10.273Right.
00:44:10.965 -->
00:44:16.731So that way again, the point of bodybuilding is to build muscle tissue, build, you know, to the best that you can, you know.
00:44:16.731 -->
00:44:22.570But that also falls into your nutrition, making sure that you're, you know, eating sufficient amount of calories.
00:44:22.570 -->
00:44:25.648You know, and whatever stage you're at, either you're bulking or you're cutting.
00:44:26.771 -->
00:44:29.510Right, so recovery part goes hand in hand right Exactly.
00:44:29.510 -->
00:44:29.911Two.
00:44:29.911 -->
00:44:31.114Yeah, that's the thing.
00:44:31.114 -->
00:44:47.373So intentions intentions are everything when it comes to training you know, and that was so when I was training Rudy, you know, we had a personal relationship and the thing with training was I mean, I can't sit here and lie to you, man.
00:44:47.373 -->
00:44:51.735There were times where I was like how man, dude, what am I gonna do to this dude today?
00:44:52.806 -->
00:44:54.974You know, and a villain type of way.
00:44:54.974 -->
00:44:59.807You know what I mean, because it was never gonna be a turnaround that I had with him where it's like dude, I'm not doing that.
00:44:59.807 -->
00:45:01.393Yeah, dude, you're crazy.
00:45:01.393 -->
00:45:02.827Like this, we're good.
00:45:02.827 -->
00:45:03.650What's the next thing?
00:45:03.650 -->
00:45:04.494What else you got on the list?
00:45:04.494 -->
00:45:05.548That was never the case.
00:45:05.548 -->
00:45:09.652It was like, all right, rudy, run through that wall and then come back and I'll tell you the next one to do.
00:45:10.005 -->
00:45:15.862That's exactly the type of mindset that he had, yeah, but the thing was, was that to his point?
00:45:15.862 -->
00:45:19.150Right, he you're, and correct me if I'm wrong it was the hamstrings.
00:45:19.150 -->
00:45:29.577The hamstrings gave you the most difficult trouble of your physique, you know, because, right, you were great, tricep wise, chest wise.
00:45:29.577 -->
00:45:35.849The back started to come and the more attention to detail you put it in the hamstrings, that's where it started to come.
00:45:35.849 -->
00:45:49.702But where I'm trying to go with this was that we really didn't put too much effort in, because you know what I mean, it wasn't one of those things Cause to us it was like, dang, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, look at that chest, that's huge, we're gonna get that chest, you know.
00:45:49.824 -->
00:45:50.989Man, look at, there's a.
00:45:50.989 -->
00:45:51.932There's Jay Cutler.
00:45:51.932 -->
00:45:59.471I want quads like Jay, but we to me personally, I can't remember one individual at that time where it's like dang look at that dude's hamstrings?
00:45:59.931 -->
00:46:01.054Yeah, you know what I mean.
00:46:01.054 -->
00:46:04.233It kind of just gets buried under all that muscle on top of it.
00:46:04.233 -->
00:46:18.715Yeah, but to go back to training, though, man, I remember workouts like let's put it this way that what most gym bros doing the gym for their chest 2025 30 sets, you know, twice, three times a week.
00:46:18.715 -->
00:46:20.833Imagine not doing that for your hamstrings.
00:46:20.833 -->
00:46:23.804Yeah, that's hard because you can't see your hamstrings.
00:46:24.126 -->
00:46:24.708You know what I mean.
00:46:24.708 -->
00:46:32.396Nor are they gonna give you the satisfaction as far as a pump as your chest and arms go, but that's what this guy had to do and make sure that his physique was top class.
00:46:32.396 -->
00:46:35.253Yeah, because you didn't just go to USA's like.
00:46:35.253 -->
00:46:39.525You went to USA's, yeah, in Vegas, and stole the show.
00:46:39.525 -->
00:46:40.909Yeah, and why?
00:46:40.909 -->
00:46:44.302Because the moment this dude turned around, oh boy over.
00:46:44.523 -->
00:46:46.068It was gay, it was game over.
00:46:46.387 -->
00:46:50.978Yeah, because his hamstrings just took the show, because the individuals there are standing next to him.
00:46:50.978 -->
00:46:58.099Nah, that's what separated Rudy from the bunch was the fact that he put the time in the details into his hamstrings.
00:46:58.099 -->
00:46:59.393Other people didn't boom.
00:46:59.393 -->
00:47:01.324Yeah, I mean, because what is everybody?
00:47:01.646 -->
00:47:04.317It's a very common thing to not put a lot of work in your house.
00:47:04.376 -->
00:47:17.672It'd be weak in the hamstrings, I mean in general, it's just and again, and Rudy could probably agree with me, it's just who loves training muscles that they can't see or feel as much as the I mean dude, you get a chest pump, you feel like you're a god.
00:47:17.793 -->
00:47:18.253Yeah, I said.
00:47:19.527 -->
00:47:20.590Who's gonna walk around, dude?
00:47:20.590 -->
00:47:21.434I got hamstrings.
00:47:21.434 -->
00:47:22.056Look at these things.
00:47:22.056 -->
00:47:24.969Yeah well, right now watch, catch me in and out Like nobody does that.
00:47:24.969 -->
00:47:28.653But, what is the one thing, though, that most people don't have?
00:47:28.653 -->
00:47:32.927Hamstrings and glutes, yeah yeah, sure, I hate the glutes, mm-hmm.
00:47:32.927 -->
00:47:33.931And guess what Rudy brought.
00:47:35.425 -->
00:47:37.333From head to toe and that's what I tell these guys.
00:47:37.333 -->
00:47:39.380Man, hey, that's what I was told.
00:47:39.380 -->
00:47:43.192Shows, when no shows, are one from the back, right, and it started from the bottom up.
00:47:43.192 -->
00:47:50.639You know cabs, hamstrings, flutes and the cherry on tops, the back and the arms going into it.
00:47:50.639 -->
00:47:51.525Right, you know.
00:47:51.525 -->
00:47:55.597But, like you said, what separates you is that condition.
00:47:55.597 -->
00:48:00.369That's where your condition, that's where you can really see the condition Right, how hard you condition.
00:48:00.369 -->
00:48:03.797Yeah, you know in the hamstrings, right, how well they're etched in.
00:48:03.797 -->
00:48:12.905You know the glutes, like you said, striated glutes, just silly dude, it was silly because it Rudy.
00:48:13.206 -->
00:48:17.851I mean so a thing too, that that we need to tell people is that right?
00:48:17.851 -->
00:48:19.255You started in bodybuilding.
00:48:19.255 -->
00:48:25.271Yeah right with, with short little, tiny little Trunks right, they showed everything all cheeks.
00:48:25.271 -->
00:48:32.231But then you transition to classic physique, where you now got into more of a short, yeah, a little bigger trunks.
00:48:32.231 -->
00:48:36.304You still saw the glutes at the bottom, but the hamstrings weren't covered.
00:48:36.646 -->
00:48:40.474Yeah right, but nevertheless, though I mean to do.
00:48:40.474 -->
00:48:44.110What a state in bodybuilding it was just again, it was gonna be one of those things.
00:48:44.110 -->
00:48:45.494It was only gonna be a matter of time.
00:48:45.494 -->
00:48:46.217Yeah, exactly.
00:48:47.286 -->
00:48:49.574So I have a question, I just kind of a question for both of you.
00:48:49.574 -->
00:49:00.184So I mean, in today's world, like with social media, there's so much content, so so much information out there, and what works for one person might not work for the other in the next guy, right.
00:49:00.184 -->
00:49:02.791But like, what's your training philosophy?
00:49:02.791 -->
00:49:16.150You know, you see some guys like they have different splits, right, whether it's a pull day, back or push days, or or just focus on one muscle or a few different, a few different lifts a day, or third.
00:49:16.150 -->
00:49:21.086Now you got guys that are hitting one muscle a day, full body, every day.
00:49:21.086 -->
00:49:26.775So what is what's your guys kind of philosophy on that for bodybuilding?
00:49:26.775 -->
00:49:35.650I guess, specifically, and In that type of training, like, what, what, what's the most ideal method With bodybuilding training?
00:49:36.070 -->
00:49:41.867Well, when me and him were attacking it, we didn't have one set, we changed it.
00:49:41.867 -->
00:49:45.474You know, he did a honey rambod like fast seven.
00:49:45.474 -->
00:49:48.907He done Chris Kermere, he done Stands.
00:49:48.907 -->
00:49:52.800You know there wasn't just one, but the basics never changed, sure.
00:49:52.800 -->
00:49:55.628The basics never went at squats, they were always there.
00:49:55.628 -->
00:49:57.773Dead lifts were always there you know every.
00:49:57.773 -->
00:50:02.460As far as that type of stuff, it was just different ways of manipulating the muscle.
00:50:02.460 -->
00:50:03.425As far as the tension.
00:50:03.485 -->
00:50:08.527So like what did like a week, like a week, look for you guys, were you guys hitting you know Um?
00:50:08.527 -->
00:50:11.056Were you focused like like a like a leg day, right?
00:50:11.056 -->
00:50:19.371Were you hitting legs twice a week where you focused like on a like you know more quad than hamstrings, and on a different day, like what did that kind of look like?
00:50:20.266 -->
00:50:21.128Yeah, maybe it was.
00:50:21.128 -->
00:50:24.153It was, it was, it was quad one day, mostly quad dominant.
00:50:24.293 -->
00:50:25.396Okay, it was mostly focused.
00:50:25.396 -->
00:50:27.047You're kind of separating that Okay.
00:50:27.528 -->
00:50:32.114Yeah, I, exactly, it was quad hamstring, and then we did one full leg day.
00:50:32.114 -->
00:50:35.065Okay, I mean that's pretty that's pretty common in the big.
00:50:35.065 -->
00:50:35.947Yeah, that's in the week.
00:50:35.967 -->
00:50:36.911Yeah, you know you're hitting.
00:50:36.911 -->
00:50:40.525You're hitting at least a part of the leg three different times out of the week.
00:50:40.726 -->
00:50:49.016Yeah, so yeah, I mean again, that's pretty common for a bikini competitor but, you try to tell a guy he's got to work out his legs three times out of the week, he might be like all right, you know what?
00:50:49.016 -->
00:50:51.188I'm cool with just lifting weights.
00:50:51.188 -->
00:50:53.353I don't want to be training with the weights.
00:50:53.494 -->
00:50:53.775Yes.
00:50:53.775 -->
00:50:59.099So I mean You're hitting legs three times a week and in different sections.
00:50:59.099 -->
00:51:00.525Right to kind of split that up.
00:51:00.525 -->
00:51:03.672Um chest, what would a chest look like?
00:51:04.335 -->
00:51:08.425I mean dude chest was a little to me when I was training like a push there.
00:51:08.445 -->
00:51:09.608What did like your pushes look like.
00:51:09.648 -->
00:51:11.994I guess I should say when I was training him personally.
00:51:11.994 -->
00:51:23.144Like For me personally when I was training him, push days were always my favorite not because of what I was able to do to him, but what I got to see when it was done.
00:51:24.226 -->
00:51:37.597You know with the pump that that you know because you don't run into individuals who just have it right Vascularity, maturity, nice, just a nice, how would I put it?
00:51:37.597 -->
00:51:39.284They it's just a great physique.
00:51:39.284 -->
00:51:41.733I mean, you just don't see it from head to toe.
00:51:41.733 -->
00:51:46.045You might see a guy that's that in shape where he's like pretty stout on top right.
00:51:46.045 -->
00:51:47.231He's wearing long shorts.
00:51:47.231 -->
00:51:48.235He might as well be wearing pants.
00:51:48.235 -->
00:51:49.000Why yeah?
00:51:49.019 -->
00:51:50.025because he don't train no legs.
00:51:50.025 -->
00:51:51.088I'll tell you that right now.
00:51:51.728 -->
00:52:04.202So whenever it was with Rudy, you know, whatever we would do chest triceps and we really did very little triceps because I mean it was unnecessary for his physique, but the biceps and things like that it was.
00:52:04.202 -->
00:52:09.311I don't think I ever remember a workout where it was less than 20 sets.
00:52:09.311 -->
00:52:13.153No well, I mean, I mean, that's actually pretty common.
00:52:13.393 -->
00:52:18.213Yeah most people go in there and they're doing 20 sets but they don't know what a hard 20 sets is.
00:52:18.213 -->
00:52:24.811They don't know what the drop sets are, the rest pause are the super sets, the triceps, the time under tension, the negatives.
00:52:24.811 -->
00:52:29.280Like they don't know that type of training, man, it's different, yeah it's completely different.
00:52:29.320 -->
00:52:29.804You know what I mean.
00:52:29.804 -->
00:52:30.588And why is that?
00:52:30.588 -->
00:52:34.724Because it takes a different individual to be able to go through those types of sets.
00:52:34.724 -->
00:52:36.007That's the deal breaker.
00:52:36.007 -->
00:52:38.391Yeah, and I never had that issue with him, never.
00:52:38.391 -->
00:52:38.913And guess what?
00:52:38.913 -->
00:52:42.467Guess who's the only person in Salaria County who holds a pro card?
00:52:42.467 -->
00:52:44.065Man?
00:52:44.085 -->
00:52:44.728sitting in front of us.
00:52:47.045 -->
00:52:57.855You honestly got to go to a dark place, yeah, and you got to make peace with that place and know and accept that pain and I thought I see what it separates people and weeds people out.
00:52:57.855 -->
00:52:59.318Can you handle that pain?
00:52:59.318 -->
00:53:10.809You know because it hurts, you know, it goes to a different level sometimes, you know, but you know, for me it was always like down yeah, all right, what's next?
00:53:10.809 -->
00:53:13.077Yeah, oh, shit, all right.
00:53:13.985 -->
00:53:28.795Okay, you got to have a short-term memory, I do because you know when you're doing legs three times a week Monday, quads hamstrings Wednesday, and then probably like a Either Friday or Saturday, depending on recovery.
00:53:28.795 -->
00:53:30.864Like you got to have a short-term memory of that.
00:53:31.085 -->
00:53:34.280Sure because it's coming in and it's gonna knock right on your fucking Sorry.
00:53:34.280 -->
00:53:37.010He's right on your door and it's gonna come quick.
00:53:37.010 -->
00:53:49.175Yeah, you know, but the thing with with his particular training at the time was, whenever we trained, we said very few words of each other.
00:53:49.175 -->
00:53:51.208Yeah, it wasn't a conversation.
00:53:51.208 -->
00:54:01.331The phones never came out until the end of the workout to capture the posing that we needed to send there was other coaches in LA, and so there was never a conversation, never.
00:54:01.331 -->
00:54:01.998It was all.
00:54:03.047 -->
00:54:03.527All gas.
00:54:04.965 -->
00:54:07.032No breaks until that session was over.
00:54:07.032 -->
00:54:08.655And that's the thing, man.
00:54:08.655 -->
00:54:14.750Whether if it was for 45 minutes, depending on the type of training, or an hour and a half, it was all gas.
00:54:14.789 -->
00:54:15.873Well, it's efficiency too.
00:54:15.873 -->
00:54:16.835Right, it was efficient.
00:54:16.925 -->
00:54:25.170It's being efficient in the gym, the time you have we know exactly what we wanted to get out of every single workouts with, with all Intentions, man how long were those workouts?
00:54:25.672 -->
00:54:32.451if I'm, it was like for, like you said, it was like anywhere between like 45 minutes to Sometimes longer ones, because the rest periods an hour and a half.
00:54:32.451 -->
00:54:38.871Yeah you know that's the misconception a lot of people have, that you Gotta spend two, three, four hours in the gym.
00:54:38.871 -->
00:54:41.699You know I go with people looking me all you must spend all day now.
00:54:41.699 -->
00:54:45.539No, what are you doing for four hours?
00:54:45.539 -->
00:54:47.447Three hours in the gym, Right?
00:54:47.447 -->
00:54:52.284You're obviously wasting a lot of time if you're in there that long, yeah, no, you gotta end there in attack right.
00:54:52.766 -->
00:54:53.791If the goal is tension.
00:54:53.791 -->
00:54:56.199How are you putting tension with the four-hour you know?
00:54:56.199 -->
00:55:01.025Workout you know, Like I don't think your muscles go for four hours if you're doing it right.
00:55:01.246 -->
00:55:06.525Like Dorian Yates would talk about that he would only spend, you know, no more than an hour, 90 minutes in the gym, exactly.
00:55:06.525 -->
00:55:09.653And he wouldn't like, and I don't know how true is that he would.
00:55:09.653 -->
00:55:10.215They would.
00:55:10.215 -->
00:55:13.210They would talk about like, oh, we're with a six, seven days a week.
00:55:13.210 -->
00:55:20.652No like, even at the height, sometimes you would, we would only work out four or five days a week, right, and get that recovery, but it was like 90 minutes.
00:55:21.275 -->
00:55:24.804Yeah so it's about it being efficient in the gym with the time that you have.
00:55:25.266 -->
00:55:30.525Right, yep, and then that comes the recovery, you know, and I mean, and that's, that's a whole different.
00:55:31.106 -->
00:55:34.894Yeah, I was gonna actually ask about that being able to hit the legs three times in a week.
00:55:34.894 -->
00:55:36.217Like what did the recovery look like?
00:55:38.027 -->
00:55:39.887That's Condition, man.
00:55:39.887 -->
00:55:44.338Yeah, honestly, legs were sore every day, and especially when you have to do cardio every day.
00:55:44.338 -->
00:55:45.608Yeah, you know.
00:55:45.608 -->
00:55:48.795So at that point again, it's how well can you tolerate pain?
00:55:48.795 -->
00:55:52.418Right, you know, it's mostly a pain tolerance type of thing, you know.
00:55:52.418 -->
00:55:57.773Mentally, you know, and I mean recovery, wise sleep, you know.
00:55:57.773 -->
00:56:06.157No, there's certain supplements that you can take For no recovery, you know, but at the same time, hydration, making sure that you're properly hydrated.
00:56:06.157 -->
00:56:09.429A lot of people don't know how important hydration is.
00:56:09.429 -->
00:56:11.793Man, we're not muscles made of mostly water.
00:56:11.793 -->
00:56:16.291You got to make sure that you're properly hydrated, you know and not just water, right?
00:56:16.373 -->
00:56:19.764sodium, potassium chloride, like the whole complex.
00:56:19.764 -->
00:56:24.695Yeah, you know, I gotta make sure you have enough for most of your day, yeah you know, otherwise you're gonna be crapping.
00:56:25.077 -->
00:56:26.467You know Terrain stuff.
00:56:26.748 -->
00:56:38.295So yeah, it's like you know People, you know when you, when you mentioned it legs three times out of the week, the thing was it was still broken.
00:56:38.295 -->
00:56:41.954You know, it was still quad-dominant exercise, it was still a hamstring.
00:56:41.954 -->
00:56:46.400So really up there was only one day where it was at all leg day.
00:56:46.400 -->
00:56:47.644You know what I mean.
00:56:47.644 -->
00:56:53.204Like it was still broken up, where you weren't like attacking the leg all at once every.
00:56:53.485 -->
00:56:54.791You know, three times out of the week.
00:56:54.791 -->
00:56:56.376So that's like to what I'm.
00:56:56.376 -->
00:56:57.298Why am I bringing that up?
00:56:57.298 -->
00:56:58.844Because programming is everything.
00:56:59.166 -->
00:57:01.811Yeah programming is a you just can't.
00:57:01.811 -->
00:57:10.860You know, like everything was was managed For Rudy, from his nutrition to to driving the LA's for posings, for training.
00:57:10.860 -->
00:57:12.284Like it was well managed.
00:57:12.284 -->
00:57:13.047It wasn't.
00:57:13.047 -->
00:57:14.833There was no carelessness into it.
00:57:14.833 -->
00:57:17.625Yeah, you know I mean the guy just said he became a pro bodybuilder.
00:57:17.625 -->
00:57:18.146How many years?
00:57:18.146 -->
00:57:19.509Three, three years.
00:57:19.509 -->
00:57:20.811You know what I mean.
00:57:20.811 -->
00:57:24.646And guess how many mistakes were made in that most of them were Uncontrollable.
00:57:24.646 -->
00:57:28.925You know I mean in just part of the process of being a bodybuilder and learning.
00:57:28.925 -->
00:57:35.829You know it wasn't just the fact that I was like you know what, I'm just gonna do this today and go to Taco Bell and yeah, that's not what it was.
00:57:35.909 -->
00:57:36.532You know what I mean.
00:57:36.532 -->
00:57:43.123It was a really well managed program and that's what got him from point a to point B as fast as he did.
00:57:43.123 -->
00:57:49.300Yeah, so I mean, but training, training is a fun part, dude, it's the fun part.
00:57:49.300 -->
00:57:53.976You know, as painful as it is, it's still the easiest part right.
00:57:53.976 -->
00:57:57.090I mean, we all tell our clients, right, nobody's ever said dang.
00:57:57.090 -->
00:57:59.981I wish I would have never done that work after they accomplished it.
00:58:00.121 -->
00:58:04.496Never right, never, never it just doesn't work out like that you know so.
00:58:07.266 -->
00:58:18.188So to go back to recovery, though, you know and talking about that, you know, at the brutal trainings I mean, most people don't Understand that.
00:58:18.188 -->
00:58:23.190You know, recovery is, is almost a sport itself.
00:58:23.190 -->
00:58:29.110You know what I mean, because if you can't recover, you can't go back and get what you need Out of your training.
00:58:29.110 -->
00:58:31.702You know what I mean, because it's it's not gonna work out.
00:58:31.702 -->
00:58:32.405You know what I mean.
00:58:32.405 -->
00:58:40.690So when you talk about your recovery specifically, where, how would I put this?
00:58:40.690 -->
00:58:46.233What would you say Outweighs the other?
00:58:46.233 -->
00:58:48.804Okay, what would you say that outweighs the other?
00:58:48.804 -->
00:59:03.753It kind of go back into, I guess, the myth how important are supplements, okay, and how important is sleep and how you get what I mean, like, because we still fight that hey what's up I should I buy?
00:59:04.034 -->
00:59:05.179it was you know what's you know.
00:59:05.179 -->
00:59:06.525This was you know how to take exactly.
00:59:08.068 -->
00:59:15.907I want you to elaborate and tell people the misconception of supplements and sleep and which one they should prioritize more sleep.
00:59:18.108 -->
00:59:18.451Honestly.
00:59:18.451 -->
00:59:21.168You know the magic happens when you sleep.
00:59:21.168 -->
00:59:23.454You grow when you sleep, you recover when you sleep.
00:59:23.454 -->
00:59:25.550You know so how well.
00:59:25.550 -->
00:59:35.293You know, especially nowadays with nearly the phones and the social media and the internet and all that crap, you know People get distracted and stay on their phones up too late.
00:59:35.293 -->
00:59:37.157You know, and don't really.
00:59:37.157 -->
00:59:40.293You know see how important sleep really is.
00:59:40.293 -->
00:59:44.534You know Burn fat, believe it or not, you lose weight.
00:59:44.534 -->
00:59:45.436You do your sleep.
00:59:45.436 -->
00:59:47.724You know you build muscle when you go to sleep.
00:59:48.065 -->
00:59:50.012You're testosterone, everything.
00:59:50.112 -->
00:59:58.425Yeah matter, sleep is king, you know, over supplements, you know you can buy all the supplements in the world, but if you're no, sleep is crap.
01:00:01.099 -->
01:00:02.065You just give me your money.
01:00:02.065 -->
01:00:04.329Yeah, that's it.
01:00:04.429 -->
01:00:10.480Yeah so let's say you have your nutrition pretty dialed in, your training is dialed in, your sleep dialed in.
01:00:10.480 -->
01:00:15.034What supplements and I'm not talking about we're gonna go win.
01:00:15.034 -->
01:00:23.170You know, mr Olympia, just a person that wants to be in the best shape they can so they got their nutrition dialed in, they have their sleep dialed in, training dialed in.
01:00:23.170 -->
01:00:27.775What supplements would you recommend for For them to spend their money on?
01:00:28.717 -->
01:00:30.590I Would say a quality protein.
01:00:30.590 -->
01:00:31.735You know.
01:00:31.735 -->
01:00:35.117Nowadays a lot of people who know struggle to eat enough.
01:00:35.117 -->
01:00:37.085You know protein throughout the day, sure.
01:00:37.085 -->
01:00:46.793So I was definitely say make sure you know, get a quality protein you know, especially nowadays the supplements companies have Know multiply by a bunch.
01:00:46.793 -->
01:00:50.545Yeah, you know like almost every influencer, has some sort of brand.
01:00:51.067 -->
01:00:54.965I just make sure you do your homework and getting a good quality protein right.
01:00:54.965 -->
01:00:57.512No, forget the name, forget who's selling it.
01:00:57.512 -->
01:01:03.898You know, look into the actual product right and get a quality product, and you know it's also.
01:01:03.898 -->
01:01:05.588No, it's also trial and error.
01:01:05.588 -->
01:01:10.992You know what might work for me, might not work for you, and just no.
01:01:10.992 -->
01:01:15.974Really Breaking it down more basic, you know what you really need.
01:01:15.974 -->
01:01:19.784You know making sure they have the, the minerals, because we need minerals.
01:01:19.784 -->
01:01:29.567Yeah, you know, over pre-workout right say you know some people need that Jolt of energy To.
01:01:29.847 -->
01:01:31.273I don't use any pre-workout anymore.
01:01:31.273 -->
01:01:31.914Go to sleep.
01:01:32.516 -->
01:01:32.858Yeah.
01:01:33.018 -->
01:01:34.804Yeah, I mean just get some rest.
01:01:34.804 -->
01:01:36.911Yeah, you know your body will do it all.
01:01:36.911 -->
01:01:39.289You know Audia is an amazing machine.
01:01:39.289 -->
01:01:46.030If you allow it and give it, you know, it's proper recovery and rest you know it'll respond Yep, you know.
01:01:46.030 -->
01:01:53.697So I Would say essential amino acids yeah, you know making sure you get good quality essential amino acids.
01:01:53.697 -->
01:01:58.396You know that's no, pretty much it depending on the person's goal, you know.
01:01:59.684 -->
01:02:01.150Multivitamin or multi vitamin.
01:02:01.150 -->
01:02:03.119Well, I mean, if you're eating properly, you should get those.
01:02:03.119 -->
01:02:05.851You should get those from your food Right should be, you know.
01:02:07.166 -->
01:02:08.891That's why I mean otherwise.
01:02:08.891 -->
01:02:15.556A lot of multivitamins you get out there just compressed into a big tab and right, yeah, really can you absorb from those types of things?
01:02:15.556 -->
01:02:17.105You know, not much right.
01:02:17.364 -->
01:02:29.335So a big one today is like so, obviously being hydrated, but you talked about minerals, because I know there's like different, like the big thing is because everyone was like, talk about you know, drink a gallon of water.
01:02:29.335 -->
01:02:33.875Well, yeah, that's great, but if you don't have minerals, like you're, it's not really helping.
01:02:33.875 -->
01:02:47.945So making sure you're having potassium chloride, sodium, yes, because there was always that myth like, oh, sodium is gonna cause high blood pressure, all this stuff it's like no, you need sodium, you need sodium to retain water, to hold the water.
01:02:47.945 -->
01:02:50.355So now they have like element, there's like element.
01:02:50.355 -->
01:02:52.844There's some pretty good ones that have like the what was that?
01:02:52.844 -->
01:02:53.847What am I missing?
01:02:53.847 -->
01:02:56.034There's potassium sodium chloride.
01:02:56.034 -->
01:03:00.637There's five, I think essential, like ones that a lot of them having it.
01:03:00.637 -->
01:03:03.224I can't remember off top of my head, but anyways.
01:03:03.806 -->
01:03:08.036I usually don't get that far with clients because, we're trying to emphasize sleep.
01:03:08.295 -->
01:03:11.271Yeah protein quality of food in quality.
01:03:11.625 -->
01:03:17.965You know, and, like you know, because I want, I want to tell people the supplements are important.
01:03:17.965 -->
01:03:24.619I mean, don't ignore them, you know, but they're usually at the back of the conversation until this gets crossed off.
01:03:25.045 -->
01:03:26.188They're called supplements for a reason.
01:03:26.208 -->
01:03:27.994Yeah, supplement supplement.
01:03:27.994 -->
01:03:40.617You know your other things right, you know exactly and so we're crossing off all these X's and O's of what you know recovery, the training, the nutrition and all this type of stuff.
01:03:40.617 -->
01:03:53.518Tell me three traits that you believe every Person needs to be a successful bodybuilder.
01:03:53.518 -->
01:03:55.125Three words, what are they?
01:03:55.125 -->
01:03:57.887Discipline, discipline.
01:04:02.195 -->
01:04:13.717No, I would say heart, heart Okay, and just drive, man, drive okay.
01:04:14.159 -->
01:04:16.563So discipline is the first one that came to your mind.
01:04:16.563 -->
01:04:18.634Why, why?
01:04:18.733 -->
01:04:19.315discipline.
01:04:19.315 -->
01:04:19.958Why?
01:04:19.958 -->
01:04:22.728Because you got to be willing to do even the shit that you own.
01:04:22.728 -->
01:04:23.230Can I cuz?
01:04:23.250 -->
01:04:23.349yeah.
01:04:24.753 -->
01:04:27.159The stuff that you don't want to do.
01:04:27.159 -->
01:04:32.815You had to be willing to do it Day in and day out, and that's honestly the biggest.
01:04:32.815 -->
01:04:59.293The hardest thing for people to do Yep, you know, is accept what they need to do repetitive eating, the same thing every day, doing the cardio every day right, you know, making sure that you put your stuff away and get to sleep Because you need it, right every day you know, that's the main thing is, and even when you feel like crap, especially the days that you feel like crap, you know.
01:04:59.353 -->
01:05:06.275You know I don't want to go train a day, I don't want to go do this, I don't want to do this cardio right, get your butt up and do it right.
01:05:06.275 -->
01:05:13.166You know that's what this place, you know doing it, even though you don't want to you know what the greatest form of self-love is?
01:05:14.349 -->
01:05:14.791Discipline?
01:05:14.791 -->
01:05:17.693Yeah, because without it, how can you ever love yourself?
01:05:17.693 -->
01:05:23.748You know, cuz you'll never finish anything that you decide to start and how you gonna feel if that never happens you know what?
01:05:23.748 -->
01:05:23.969I mean.
01:05:23.969 -->
01:05:31.023So the to in that guess that's my might be my my opinion but the greatest form of self-love is discipline, you know.
01:05:31.023 -->
01:05:33.856So the second one, that was hard, yeah, why?
01:05:33.896 -->
01:05:34.097hard.
01:05:34.097 -->
01:05:34.960Why?
01:05:34.960 -->
01:05:36.143Because you got to love it.
01:05:36.143 -->
01:05:37.733You got to love it.
01:05:37.733 -->
01:05:39.179The ugly part?
01:05:39.179 -->
01:05:44.494No, no, the good, the bad, every aspect you got to love.
01:05:44.494 -->
01:05:45.958You got to love what it brings.
01:05:45.958 -->
01:05:48.202You got to love know, to want to do it.
01:05:48.202 -->
01:05:51.777You know, and again it falls into every aspect.
01:05:51.777 -->
01:05:55.052You got to love the training, got to love the cardio, even though you had.
01:05:55.052 -->
01:05:56.478You got to learn to love it, right?
01:05:56.478 -->
01:05:57.320No, that's the way I see it.
01:05:57.320 -->
01:05:58.974You know I'm a freaking.
01:05:58.974 -->
01:06:02.447Do it so much till I love it, yeah, you know, I'm gonna die hard enough till.
01:06:02.487 -->
01:06:03.369I love it right.
01:06:03.369 -->
01:06:05.778You know and it becomes you.
01:06:05.778 -->
01:06:08.550You know, no, we're habitual creatures, right?
01:06:08.550 -->
01:06:16.054No, no, and as long as you keep on it, you know, it becomes part of you, right, and you learn to love it.
01:06:16.054 -->
01:06:19.001You know it all comes from here, right?
01:06:19.001 -->
01:06:19.503You know?
01:06:20.532 -->
01:06:31.324So did you want to know something so I mean, you, you're a gym owner, you're kind of training bodybuilder and you're also just training people to be the best version of themselves possible today.
01:06:31.324 -->
01:06:39.648What are like We've talked about a lot of different stuff, like Zach said supplementation, training, nutrition, all that stuff, recovery, all that stuff.
01:06:39.648 -->
01:06:40.913You know, what are like?
01:06:40.913 -->
01:06:49.978What are kind of like some different advice you would just give to people that Want to be the best version of themself.
01:06:49.978 -->
01:06:59.869Like what, what, what three things are you gonna tell them Not just, I guess, training, but health, fitness and just kind of that full mind and body.
01:06:59.869 -->
01:07:04.402Like what are some, what a couple things you tell them to be the best version of themselves?
01:07:05.490 -->
01:07:06.815First we start making excuses.
01:07:06.815 -->
01:07:10.097No, everybody wants a pity partner.
01:07:10.097 -->
01:07:13.512I'll forget the excuses, man, get rid of them.
01:07:13.512 -->
01:07:18.791You know, if you really want it, you're gonna do it, you know.
01:07:18.791 -->
01:07:20.255So, cut the excuses already.
01:07:20.255 -->
01:07:24.114You know everybody was all I don't have time, no, you have time, you know.
01:07:24.114 -->
01:07:26.369You just got to manage it better, yeah, you know.
01:07:26.369 -->
01:07:33.199Um, again, it's just, it comes down to discipline.
01:07:33.199 -->
01:07:35.893Yeah, getting it back to discipline.
01:07:35.893 -->
01:07:42.411Yeah, back to discipline, man, you know, you know, and overall is just, you know, sacrifice.
01:07:42.411 -->
01:07:57.563You're gonna have to be one of sacrifice things, you know, to get what you want which goes back to time right and not making bullshit excuses exactly you know, cuz you know, those days you want to go party, or you want to go eat this, or you want to do that.
01:07:58.251 -->
01:07:59.777You want to sacrifice some of those things.
01:07:59.777 -->
01:08:01.996You know and how well you manage.
01:08:01.996 -->
01:08:06.931Those things are gonna again help Lead you to your goal, right?
01:08:06.931 -->
01:08:09.617Well, if you really want it, you can accomplish it.
01:08:09.617 -->
01:08:13.293You know, the only one that's gonna hold you back is you, right.
01:08:14.090 -->
01:08:22.136Yeah 100%, because what you said, when people have excuses and they say I don't have time, well, look at your schedule.
01:08:22.136 -->
01:08:37.012Start all the time that people are waste right doing this and that and watching Netflix or whatever it is like maybe you can make time like you said and not, and to be consistent, sustainable, you got to be disciplined.
01:08:37.012 -->
01:08:39.960Yeah so it all goes hand in hand, those three things.
01:08:39.960 -->
01:08:40.661I like it.
01:08:40.661 -->
01:08:41.502I like it, love it.
01:08:42.431 -->
01:08:45.403So I want to finish off that third word though drive.
01:08:45.403 -->
01:08:47.069Why does an individual need drive?
01:08:47.932 -->
01:09:00.311because you're gonna need to really Look down and look in that mirror to see how what you're made of and you got to drive and keep going and Cuz again.
01:09:00.311 -->
01:09:20.360Everybody loves it when you get praised, you know, but at the same time Now you're gonna get some negativity here and there and being able to overcome those, those that come negative at you, and to know, let that go in and know in one ear, not the other Right, and just keep pushing, right pushing.
01:09:20.360 -->
01:09:25.759You know Anybody can accomplish what they want, especially in their physical, in their health.
01:09:26.199 -->
01:09:30.751Mm-hmm you know, but nowadays is, you know it's hard Right.
01:09:30.751 -->
01:09:35.680You know, especially with the again, with all the social media stuff, people get tricked, misconceptions.
01:09:35.680 -->
01:09:42.934You know it's sold some bull crap you know, it's really, it's not that hard, you know.
01:09:42.934 -->
01:09:45.962You just got to have that drive to want to do it.
01:09:45.962 -->
01:09:51.940You know, and get it done, yep, you know, and it kind of falls back to discipline, right.
01:09:52.734 -->
01:09:56.935You got to have that drive to want to do it, but you also got to understand why you're doing it exactly.
01:09:56.935 -->
01:10:05.662And that's usually where the discipline comes in to understand like, okay, I Remember why I started this, I'm going to finish this.
01:10:05.662 -->
01:10:12.483Now you know and that's the thing I, in my personal opinion, my people's why is never is never good enough.
01:10:12.483 -->
01:10:14.153You know what I mean.
01:10:14.153 -->
01:10:17.020It's usually for a heart on Instagram.
01:10:17.020 -->
01:10:19.775You know it is stay relevant, to stay fresh on the feed.
01:10:19.775 -->
01:10:24.609You know what I mean and and it can't be that it can't I mean, maybe if we get paid.
01:10:24.871 -->
01:10:26.876I guess, but most.
01:10:27.015 -->
01:10:35.976Most often than not, you know that's a very small select few, you know, but I I like those three words discipline, heart and drive.
01:10:35.976 -->
01:10:41.872That's what's required for, in your opinion, to be a very successful Competitive bodybuilder.
01:10:41.872 -->
01:10:45.021Discipline, yeah, heart and drive.
01:10:46.791 -->
01:10:49.396Yeah, no, I, I kind of want to talk.
01:10:49.396 -->
01:10:55.149We we briefly talked about a couple things like with the dark, the darkness of the bodybuilding industry.
01:10:55.149 -->
01:10:57.228Right, yeah, with PEDs and different things.
01:10:57.228 -->
01:11:00.475But you know, there there's so much good.
01:11:00.475 -->
01:11:09.525Like I do see a lot of guys and I think, like you look at sebum and some of these guys that I, you know they seem to be pretty good role models for younger kids.
01:11:09.525 -->
01:11:12.210They at least try to be super humble and whatnot.
01:11:12.210 -->
01:11:17.039But then you also have a lot of a lot of bullshit in the bodybuilding industry.
01:11:17.220 -->
01:11:29.497Yeah people trying to, you know, make their money and I get it, supplements and stuff like that, but there's so much, you know, people tearing other bodybuilders down.
01:11:29.658 -->
01:11:32.844Yeah you see a lot of that in the industry today on social media.
01:11:32.844 -->
01:12:01.470So, with with the social media so many different, you know, everyone trying to promote their brands to especially younger audiences and stuff like that what would you kind of, what would you kind of tell people to try to avoid All that, that darkness, and try to kind of have a streamlined process and stay committed, stay disciplined and focused, and of avoiding all that stuff and, I guess, trying to eliminate those mistakes?
01:12:01.470 -->
01:12:15.439I feel like we, we all make those mistakes of you know, getting caught up into the supplementation of stuff or the tearing down of our own bodies, but also judging ourselves, I mean against other people on social media.
01:12:15.439 -->
01:12:21.637So what kind of advice would you give to some of these younger people to try to avoid that, because social media could be so toxic today?
01:12:21.637 -->
01:12:31.425Yeah With, just, you're always judging yourself based on what someone else that's maybe not even exactly a hundred percent real and natural on social media.
01:12:32.251 -->
01:12:39.565Well, the first thing is you got to learn to love yourself, you know, if you don't love yourself, how are you gonna admit any sort of love to anybody else?
01:12:39.565 -->
01:12:40.368Yeah, you know.
01:12:40.368 -->
01:12:41.692You know that's one thing.
01:12:41.692 -->
01:12:44.197You never definitely got a, you know one.
01:12:44.197 -->
01:12:49.110See yourself for what you are, accepted, you know, except what.
01:12:49.110 -->
01:12:55.768You know, what God gave you in a sense of your physical, you know, and try to make the most out of it.
01:12:55.768 -->
01:13:01.345You know, I know I'm never gonna be a seba, you know sure different makeups man.
01:13:01.365 -->
01:13:05.882Yeah, you know, but what I can't control is what I build myself.
01:13:05.882 -->
01:13:12.922You know, and the best thing you know is to pull away from social media sometimes and don't let it fester.
01:13:12.922 -->
01:13:19.485No, you let the negativity faster, it's gonna overtake you and you know it's gonna become.
01:13:19.485 -->
01:13:25.796You're gonna become the same thing, you're gonna become faithful, you know, and that's never good man.
01:13:25.956 -->
01:13:35.981No, yeah, I mean, like social media could be such a Positive to get, to get views into your life or get you know, put yourself out there.
01:13:35.981 -->
01:13:41.329But yeah, the dark side of it, so dark to it's a double-edged sure, sure it is you know.
01:13:41.810 -->
01:13:45.337But it goes back to what Rudy said in the beginning.
01:13:45.337 -->
01:14:15.676You know, you got to know who you are and your identity, you know, and that's the thing is like, if you don't know who you are, you're gonna get lost in that, yeah, and it's sometimes, when people get lost in that type of stuff, they can't get out and they can't find their way out, and so it's like it's one of those situations to where it's like, you know, when you, when you open up your Instagram, it's always everybody's best, it's never their worst, they're, they aren't showing both sides, and that's the thing too.
01:14:15.676 -->
01:14:21.475And you got to open up that, that phone with a sense of how would you put it.
01:14:21.475 -->
01:14:23.846You got to open it up with a sense of reality.
01:14:23.846 -->
01:14:24.449You know what I mean.
01:14:24.449 -->
01:14:29.099Like, yeah, that's, that's usually not what the reality is for that person.
01:14:29.099 -->
01:14:29.980You know what I mean.
01:14:30.743 -->
01:14:42.221So it's like when me and Rudy were attacking the, the bodybuilding scene, we he would show his physique, you know, and he would put a quote on his photos and stuff.
01:14:42.221 -->
01:14:42.643Like that.
01:14:42.643 -->
01:14:50.358People, people loved it, yeah, because it was encouraging, it wasn't Look at my biceps this is me.
01:14:50.377 -->
01:14:51.864I accept me, love me.
01:14:51.864 -->
01:14:53.090Yeah, you know what I mean.
01:14:53.090 -->
01:14:59.479No, it had had a Meaning and a purpose behind it and it in a sense of positivity too.
01:14:59.479 -->
01:15:00.983You know, and that's the thing is like.
01:15:00.983 -->
01:15:05.583You also got to be aware of who you were looking at as well.
01:15:05.583 -->
01:15:08.913You know what I mean, especially kids, mm-hmm, kids nowadays.
01:15:08.913 -->
01:15:09.536You know what I mean.
01:15:09.536 -->
01:15:18.234They go and they see a six pack and that person's they're All in everything and that person could be a very bad individual for them to be following, absolutely you know.
01:15:18.234 -->
01:15:21.489So you got to be extremely careful of who you are putting on your feet.
01:15:21.489 -->
01:15:22.774You know what I mean.
01:15:22.774 -->
01:15:30.359And that was the thing that when social media was important to him, you know, finding possibility, sponsor and things like that it was.
01:15:30.359 -->
01:15:35.756It was quality, quality posts with, with messages and obviously a great physique.
01:15:35.756 -->
01:15:49.949You know with it, sure, but you just got to understand like you are the only person that Allows what goes in you, yeah nobody else you nobody's forcing you to do anything.
01:15:50.792 -->
01:15:54.595You know what I mean, so that's that's my take on it.
01:15:54.595 -->
01:15:58.170You know what I mean, and it's like just staying your lane stay in the lane.
01:15:58.411 -->
01:15:58.932You know what I mean.
01:15:58.953 -->
01:16:03.609Stay in the lane and I guarantee you're gonna get to the destination that you want to go to.
01:16:03.609 -->
01:16:08.676You know what I mean is like People meet me and Rudy used to be business partners.
01:16:08.676 -->
01:16:09.800You know what I mean.
01:16:09.800 -->
01:16:10.782He's killing it.
01:16:10.782 -->
01:16:13.292I'm doing okay.
01:16:13.292 -->
01:16:18.804You know what I mean, because why we didn't care about what we were doing whenever we separated.
01:16:18.804 -->
01:16:24.679Rudy had an agenda that he wanted to follow and he took that agenda and he made it the best he could make it.
01:16:24.679 -->
01:16:26.782Now he's killing it and vice versa.
01:16:26.782 -->
01:16:32.167It's just staying your lane, you know, because you waste time if you don't and guess what like?
01:16:32.207 -->
01:16:35.712just like I said before, what's the one thing you don't get back time with money.
01:16:35.827 -->
01:16:37.493You can't buy time back.
01:16:37.493 -->
01:16:38.493You know what I mean.
01:16:38.493 -->
01:16:47.064But you could get to a point where you understand in your mind okay, that was an experience I.
01:16:47.064 -->
01:16:50.099I enjoyed it, I learned from it.
01:16:50.099 -->
01:16:56.782Let's move on from it Exactly off to the next thing, off to the next adventure, because you're no longer a bodybuilder.
01:16:56.782 -->
01:16:58.195You know what I mean.
01:16:58.195 -->
01:16:59.503It was an experience was.
01:16:59.503 -->
01:17:00.409You know what I mean?
01:17:00.409 -->
01:17:02.837You had fun with it, you killed it, you're at the top.
01:17:02.877 -->
01:17:04.582You learn the law reach the pinnacle of it.
01:17:04.649 -->
01:17:07.021You know what I mean, but it came to an end.
01:17:07.021 -->
01:17:08.670Yeah, you know what I mean.
01:17:08.670 -->
01:17:10.240And that's the thing with social media.
01:17:10.240 -->
01:17:13.375Once you turn that phone off, what are you gonna do now?
01:17:13.375 -->
01:17:15.139Yeah, it came to an end.
01:17:15.139 -->
01:17:16.421What's the next step for you?
01:17:16.421 -->
01:17:16.822You know?
01:17:16.841 -->
01:17:17.103what I mean.
01:17:17.810 -->
01:17:23.590So yeah, man, I think that that to me, that's that sound advice for you that you just brought up.
01:17:23.590 -->
01:17:24.412You know what I mean.
01:17:24.412 -->
01:17:30.975And it's like Bodybuilding in life, they go hand in hand.
01:17:30.975 -->
01:17:32.377You know what I mean?
01:17:32.377 -->
01:17:34.382They go like hand in hand.
01:17:35.313 -->
01:17:43.720Yeah, such an analogy, right, yeah, so, oh, rudy, I mean kind of what just going off with Zach said I mean, so you guys obviously were business partners.
01:17:43.720 -->
01:17:48.729Now you get Zach has a main athletics and you have your gym as well.
01:17:48.729 -->
01:17:54.328So you're all that, all those things you learn during your bodybuilding career.
01:17:54.328 -->
01:18:02.563You know 10 plus years of Bodybuilding and lifting weights and all this stuff that you learn and now you're able to instill it back into other people.
01:18:02.789 -->
01:18:14.057Yeah, to make to help them be their best selves and be their most healthy selves mentally, physically and also People that you're coaching in bodybuilding and posing and all that great stuff.
01:18:14.057 -->
01:18:26.895So what's kind of that transition like, what's that journey been like of, you know, having a successful gym, successful business, successful clients, and now instilling all that, all the things you learn, all that advice?
01:18:27.377 -->
01:18:28.984Well, I can say I'm just living a dream.
01:18:28.984 -->
01:18:35.250Hmm, you know, as a kid I always wanted to have my own place at my own gym.
01:18:35.250 -->
01:18:41.609No, accomplish that, you know, to be able to, you know, work the way I wanted, do what I wanted, you know.
01:18:41.609 -->
01:18:51.979You know, the great thing about it is I get to wake up every day and you, I have the opportunity to work with people that want to come work with me.
01:18:51.979 -->
01:18:58.099That's what makes my day.
01:18:59.912 -->
01:19:01.216Your dream of reality.
01:19:01.577 -->
01:19:02.961I'm not working, I'm retired.
01:19:02.961 -->
01:19:20.591It's the way I see it, because I get to do what I love to do every day, and it makes it better is the fact that I get a lot of great people that want to come to me to help them with their journey With training.
01:19:20.652 -->
01:19:57.739It's not just training man, it's managing people mentally Because, like you said, this is therapy Exercise is the best medicine for depression, for all those mental ailments that people suffer from nowadays stemming from social media, stemming from all these traumas that people go through life, from kids to, whether it be broken relationships, past trauma, everything, man, there's a saying 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
01:19:57.739 -->
01:20:11.417Iron therapies are probably the best thing you can do to help yourself, to build self-confidence, to have an opportunity to build a better version of yourself.
01:20:11.417 -->
01:20:22.154Not just lifting weights, man, it's a lifestyle and that's what honestly makes me tick, that's what I live for.
01:20:23.136 -->
01:20:23.438Love it.
01:20:23.438 -->
01:20:25.737I always tell people it's more than reps and sets.
01:20:25.737 -->
01:20:28.997This stuff goes way beyond more than just reps and sets.
01:20:28.997 -->
01:20:32.835That's one of our favorite quotes.
01:20:32.835 -->
01:20:40.438The 200 pounds will always be 200 pounds and the thing is is 200 pounds, it's going to be there tomorrow and the day after.
01:20:40.438 -->
01:20:41.380It is absolute.
01:20:41.460 -->
01:20:42.582It will always be there for you.
01:20:43.390 -->
01:20:44.354It is absolute, exactly.
01:20:44.354 -->
01:20:46.212It's one of those.
01:20:46.212 -->
01:20:48.779It's a lifestyle man.
01:20:49.289 -->
01:20:53.113If you allow it to be one Exactly Like for me.
01:20:53.113 -->
01:20:58.895Training weights was my first love and I know it'll always be there.
01:20:58.895 -->
01:21:05.215And the good days, the bad days Whenever I'm having a great day, it makes it better, and having a bad day, it makes my day better.
01:21:05.215 -->
01:21:11.059But you have to be able to want to go do it.
01:21:11.680 -->
01:21:15.417Yeah, and you never regret a good workout right.
01:21:15.417 -->
01:21:15.979Never.
01:21:15.979 -->
01:21:28.493I mean you might go in there, you might stumble in there after a rough day and barely make it, but at the end of it your mindset's better your attitude's better, your mentality, everything is just a little bit better.
01:21:28.614 -->
01:21:29.516So never regret it.
01:21:29.516 -->
01:21:30.680Yeah, you're satisfied man.
01:21:30.680 -->
01:21:34.137There's very few things that satisfy you the way that this does.
01:21:34.137 -->
01:21:39.158Yeah, you know what I mean, because what Rudy said in the beginning, you get what you put in period.
01:21:39.158 -->
01:21:44.042The more effort you pour in, the more you get back in return, exactly, you know what I mean.
01:21:44.042 -->
01:21:46.167And that's just a simple truth.
01:21:46.167 -->
01:21:46.930You know what I mean.
01:21:47.533 -->
01:22:04.211And you know, like the most amazing thing about lifting weights I kind of mentioned earlier, it's like once you pick up a weight not for everybody, but for the most of us, that kind of picked up weights for whatever reason it was right, or a coach introduced us to it, we were playing football, whatever Most of us.
01:22:04.211 -->
01:22:06.618Yeah, we've had instances where we didn't.
01:22:06.618 -->
01:22:11.239We don't live for a few weeks, a couple of months or whatever, but I feel like we always go back to it.
01:22:11.239 -->
01:22:12.533We always come back to it.
01:22:12.533 -->
01:22:16.059It's something we always do throughout our life.
01:22:16.059 -->
01:22:24.965So it's like if you could just get in there and, you know, find some way to get in the gym or someone to introduce it to you or your kids or whatever.
01:22:24.965 -->
01:22:28.095It's like it's something that's going to be there for the rest of your life.
01:22:28.095 -->
01:22:34.713Yeah, we always have life things that come up here and there injuries or whatever but it's always going to be there for you.
01:22:35.430 -->
01:22:36.333It's a natural high man.
01:22:36.670 -->
01:22:38.716You don't got to shoot up for it, you don't got to snort it.
01:22:38.796 -->
01:22:41.333You don't got to do any of that you just got to come in here.
01:22:41.333 -->
01:22:46.114Put a genuine effort, a good work, ethic behind that and you're good.
01:22:46.449 -->
01:22:46.931You are good.
01:22:47.829 -->
01:22:53.051So to talk about your business and to talk about where you're taking that, you have a team.
01:22:53.051 -->
01:23:03.774You have individuals that are coming to you to seek the guidance and to seek the knowledge that you have gained throughout the years to help them get to that level where you once were.
01:23:03.774 -->
01:23:06.414Tell us about that man.
01:23:06.414 -->
01:23:08.640Tell us about coaching, now the athlete.
01:23:08.640 -->
01:23:11.414What does that bring for you and what does that do for you?
01:23:12.131 -->
01:23:20.439Well, that nowadays, because of the fact that I'm not competing anymore right now, is the it brings me the most joy, because now I get to live by carelessly through them.
01:23:22.032 -->
01:24:28.662You know, I started later on competing later on, in my 20s, and you can say it's a young man sport, because I mean, if you tuned into the bodybuilding scene, every year there's a new cat coming out that's got freaking genetics, but they're young and so I'm privileged to be able to coach these young men and women that want to get their feet wet with this type of stuff and fortunately for them, I've walked the road they're trying to walk and that's what I tell them when I was doing it honestly it was mostly just me and trying to figure it out Then I got some help and then navigating through it it was kind of rough but at the same time I wasn't aware of the mental aspect that was going into it, the things that go through your head because again you're going to get all the praises and stuff like that, but people don't realize the things that sometimes go in your head, kind of some dark stuff.
01:24:29.431 -->
01:24:30.033It gets rough.
01:24:30.033 -->
01:24:47.036The doubt, mental anguish is really ugly sometimes and with my guys now I tell them there's nothing that you have felt, that I didn't feel anything.
01:24:47.036 -->
01:24:48.519No, would it be negative?
01:24:48.519 -->
01:24:55.078Talk to me, I'll help you get through those humps.
01:24:55.337 -->
01:24:55.979You're not alone.
01:24:55.979 -->
01:24:56.900Basically, you're not alone.
01:24:57.502 -->
01:24:58.103You're not alone.
01:24:58.103 -->
01:25:06.103I've done it, and if I was able to do it, coming from a small town and achieving what I did you can do it too.
01:25:06.103 -->
01:25:11.421It's just again how disciplined you are, how driven you are to get to where you want to go.
01:25:11.421 -->
01:25:14.537If you really want to do it, we're going to find out.
01:25:14.537 -->
01:25:16.775We're going to find out.
01:25:16.796 -->
01:25:19.351That's the truth yeah, 100%, Because again.
01:25:19.391 -->
01:25:22.659I've got a lot of people that come to me and want to be like I want to do a show.
01:25:22.659 -->
01:25:24.404Do you really?
01:25:24.404 -->
01:25:25.488It just hurts.
01:25:25.488 -->
01:25:28.860Yeah, rudy, I want to look like you.
01:25:28.860 -->
01:25:30.810I tell them no, you don't Right.
01:25:30.810 -->
01:25:32.293Tell them you don't want to look like me Exactly.
01:25:32.293 -->
01:25:32.956And they're like why?
01:25:32.956 -->
01:25:34.760Because it hurts too damn much.
01:25:34.760 -->
01:25:40.161You don't understand the suffering I've gone through to get to where I'm at.
01:25:40.750 -->
01:25:47.082But if you want to do it, I'll help guide you through it and I'll damn better hold your hand all the way through it.
01:25:47.082 -->
01:25:49.975But at the same time, you got to be the one putting the work.
01:25:49.975 -->
01:25:56.552You got to be able to do it, follow the plan to get you there and with me.
01:25:56.552 -->
01:25:57.436I love this.
01:25:57.436 -->
01:25:59.655I've grown to love competing.
01:25:59.655 -->
01:26:12.817It just sucks that again, I just don't have time to be able to do it, to devote to it with what I got going on business, family.
01:26:12.817 -->
01:26:28.559But with these young men and women, I live like heresy through them and I just want to see them be successful, doing their first show, getting their feedback, getting their experience, and then from there let's see what else you can do.
01:26:28.559 -->
01:26:30.055Do you want to keep going?
01:26:30.055 -->
01:26:33.917We'll figure it out and we're going to get there.
01:26:36.493 -->
01:26:37.095So I love it.
01:26:37.856 -->
01:26:42.980Yeah, so just talk about your business real quick.
01:26:42.980 -->
01:26:46.092What's it called, just for those that are listening.
01:26:46.092 -->
01:26:56.516What are you kind of focused there and what are your goals going forward here in the next couple of years, with your athletes, but also your gym yourself?
01:26:56.516 -->
01:27:00.217What's this process and future look like for Rudy?
01:27:01.350 -->
01:27:02.777Well, my gym is called the Body Builder.
01:27:02.777 -->
01:27:07.069A lot of people get a misconception, thinking it's just a gym for bodybuilders.
01:27:07.069 -->
01:27:09.195No, no, no, the play on words.
01:27:09.195 -->
01:27:12.533I build bodies and that's why I called it the Body Builder.
01:27:12.533 -->
01:27:17.117I don't just work with competitive people.
01:27:17.117 -->
01:27:36.261I honestly, most of my clientele is just regular, ordinary people that want to just build their bodies to a better version of themselves, and they all come from different walks of life, different ages, and it's just people that I just want to find a nice environment, getting away from commercial gyms.
01:27:36.561 -->
01:27:46.235Sure, because a lot of times it can be very intimidating going into a big gym, especially not knowing what to do, how to go about it.
01:27:46.235 -->
01:27:52.358And with me, I don't preach weight loss, I try to get that.
01:27:52.358 -->
01:27:56.051Or people say and focus on body recomposition, because that's what it's about.
01:27:56.051 -->
01:28:02.588Weight loss sometimes gets overplayed what you weigh.
01:28:02.588 -->
01:28:08.953What you weigh doesn't tell the whole story about you, and we got to see past that.
01:28:09.550 -->
01:29:00.654So we try to touch and help people have a better relationship with food, learn more about what things to eat, how to eat better and still be able to have balance in their lives with being able to enjoy certain things but at the same time getting themselves to a point where they can be disciplined with the routines, how they go about their day and managing overall stress, because it all falls into place, it all comes together your sleep, your training, recovery, your diet, the lifestyle, the lifestyle and that's what I try to teach and coach my clients and my competitors to do and just manage themselves better and improve their lives.
01:29:00.654 -->
01:29:08.851Because, again, this can help you get out of the biggest holes mentally, depression, all that stuff.
01:29:08.851 -->
01:29:11.194You feel like crap.
01:29:11.194 -->
01:29:14.815Go work out, you're going to feel better.
01:29:14.815 -->
01:29:23.998But at the same time, you got to have the drive to want to do it, because I don't like working with individuals that complain, complain and complain.
01:29:23.998 -->
01:29:33.055No, I don't mean that you got to come in with the attitude like, hey, I'm here to work, let's get something done.
01:29:33.176 -->
01:29:42.438I love that I love that when I get a client that is motivated, but overall discipline is because discipline trumps motivation.
01:29:42.438 -->
01:29:49.362So and hopefully I'm looking to possibly grow sometime.
01:29:49.362 -->
01:30:12.181Right now I've got a little spot, which I love because it's controlled, and for myself I focus more on private setting, having been able to have a control of a number of people I train at a certain time, which takes away from the freelance and a lot of the stuff you see at commercial gyms and stuff like that.
01:30:13.430 -->
01:30:24.838So it gives me a lot more freedom to be able to have control on how we manage the clients and how we train them and be able to separate and it flows like a symphony man.
01:30:24.838 -->
01:30:25.932Yeah, love it.
01:30:28.733 -->
01:30:31.217So where can people find you like your business?
01:30:31.217 -->
01:30:32.119Instagram, my.
01:30:32.140 -->
01:30:33.002Instagram.
01:30:34.380 -->
01:30:39.100I'm terrible with social media Because you have an Instagram for your gym, and then you have your personal as well.
01:30:39.140 -->
01:30:39.681I'm terrible.
01:30:39.681 -->
01:30:44.440I've really fallen off with the Instagram ever since no business or family took over.
01:30:44.440 -->
01:30:47.537I tried to make a post, but then I got my kids talking.
01:30:47.537 -->
01:31:00.162Yeah, dude, it's a full time job, social media stuff, yeah but my social media handle for Instagram is, I believe is the bodybuilder underscore 559.
01:31:00.162 -->
01:31:15.819Okay, my gym is located at 360 North Porter Road, off the cross street of Morton, and again it's just focused more on private and privacy, allowing my clients to be comfortable.
01:31:16.100 -->
01:31:20.658Yeah right, yeah sweet, you're building better human beings, man.
01:31:21.511 -->
01:31:22.313Well, that's the goal.
01:31:22.592 -->
01:31:22.894Yeah.
01:31:23.253 -->
01:31:24.756Building better people Life codes.
01:31:24.777 -->
01:31:25.358That's the thing.
01:31:25.358 -->
01:31:26.921There's plenty to go around to.
01:31:27.322 -->
01:31:27.682You know what?
01:31:27.703 -->
01:31:29.534I mean, that's the thing.
01:31:29.534 -->
01:31:32.519So anybody who's listening wondering why is Zach bringing Rudy into the?
01:31:32.578 -->
01:31:32.800gym.
01:31:32.949 -->
01:31:35.595It's because there's plenty enough for everybody to eat, guys.
01:31:35.595 -->
01:31:37.420There's plenty enough, 100%.
01:31:37.420 -->
01:31:41.078You know what I mean and, at the end of the day, I'm not Rudy and Rudy's not Zach.
01:31:41.078 -->
01:31:48.523Each person that you run into is an own individual person that brings their own individual traits.
01:31:48.523 -->
01:31:50.315And that's what makes life great.
01:31:50.315 -->
01:31:53.953There's not another Zach, there's not another Blaine, there's not another.
01:31:53.974 -->
01:31:54.073Rudy.
01:31:54.590 -->
01:32:04.814So for people that are out there that are looking for a trainer, consider all options, consider all options, because Rudy could talk to you better than I can, maybe, or I might be able to talk better than he can.
01:32:06.051 -->
01:32:07.417So for anybody listening?
01:32:07.417 -->
01:32:09.716Like I said, yeah, it's all about vibes.
01:32:09.716 -->
01:32:14.994Man, you gotta be able to, you know, with personal training, you gotta be, you know, get personal with the person and you gotta be able to be.
01:32:14.994 -->
01:32:17.261You know, have a good relationship with you.
01:32:17.261 -->
01:32:18.353Because, for me.
01:32:18.353 -->
01:32:25.300I build a lot of relationships with my clientele, you know, and sometimes it gets no deep personal, you know, with some of the stuff we have to deal with mentally.
01:32:25.581 -->
01:32:25.780Right.
01:32:26.630 -->
01:32:30.640You know, and it's just you know getting a good vibe off people.
01:32:30.881 -->
01:32:31.020Yeah.
01:32:31.890 -->
01:32:34.556You know and loving the way they work and how they work with you.
01:32:34.556 -->
01:32:37.175You know, you know your service is pretty much.
01:32:37.175 -->
01:32:41.753You know I don't really advertise much because a lot of my clientele comes from referrals.
01:32:41.753 -->
01:32:43.819Word of mouth, yeah, yep.
01:32:44.462 -->
01:32:46.989Yeah, like Zach said, explore your options.
01:32:46.989 -->
01:32:54.597I mean, do what's what works best for you, because what works best for you might not work what might not be what's best for the next person.
01:32:54.597 -->
01:32:55.621Right, everyone's different.
01:32:55.621 -->
01:33:01.140Everyone's got different needs and wants, and so yeah, it's styles man, yeah, styles too yeah.
01:33:01.340 -->
01:33:03.811Yeah, exactly, you know, that's.
01:33:03.811 -->
01:33:05.417That's the best, the best part about life, man.
01:33:05.417 -->
01:33:07.034It's all one big experience, man.
01:33:07.034 -->
01:33:07.898You know what I mean.
01:33:07.898 -->
01:33:17.015You could either make it a bad experience and learn from it, or you can make it a good one by doing your homework and studying and making sure that your next step is the next step best for you.
01:33:17.275 -->
01:33:18.077Hey, there's only one.
01:33:18.077 -->
01:33:19.859You Right, there's only one, you.
01:33:20.359 -->
01:33:22.020Exactly so Cool.
01:33:22.121 -->
01:33:23.863Well, thank you guys Appreciate it.
01:33:23.863 -->
01:33:24.663Thanks for coming in, man.
01:33:26.490 -->
01:33:30.315Yeah, thanks for taking the time to come over here, man, and talking to us and talking to all the listeners and stuff like that.
01:33:30.315 -->
01:33:36.275Hopefully everybody gets some, some good, solid advice from this and yeah, man Can't wait to put this one.
01:33:36.296 -->
01:33:36.978Yeah, that's pretty fun.
01:33:36.978 -->
01:33:39.757This is just, I think, therapy for all of us too, man.
01:33:39.757 -->
01:33:41.917So we get, we get, we get to learn a lot too.
01:33:42.289 -->
01:33:42.631Me and Rudy.
01:33:42.631 -->
01:33:43.877We're a lot cheaper than a therapist.
01:33:43.877 -->
01:33:45.453I'll tell you that right now.
01:33:45.453 -->
01:33:48.337So see you guys, you know, come find us.
01:33:48.337 -->
01:33:50.140Yeah, for sure We'll help you out Cool.
01:33:50.400 -->
01:33:51.122Well thank you guys.
01:33:51.122 -->
01:33:52.323Thanks for everyone for tuning in.
01:33:53.791 -->
01:33:55.412Thanks, rudy for taking the time to come join us today.
01:33:55.953 -->
01:33:57.076Yeah, cool, thank you guys.
01:33:57.395 -->
01:33:58.597All right, guys, cool, catch you later.
01:33:58.597 -->
01:34:01.542Yeah, sweet man, that was a good one.
01:34:01.542 -->
01:34:07.355We'll signal you, guys.
01:34:07.355 -->
01:34:16.431What are we going to catch for tonight.
