Quick T: Trans Genocide, Self Care, Guilty Donors

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My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So what's the T, sis? The T is Today in
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Gay, Jake Atikoff makes history as first out gay man to win individual gold at Winter Paralympics.
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Also in Gay, new study reveals the U.S. states with the biggest dicks.
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I don't know why I wasn't expecting to read that.
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Also in Gay, also in Gay, Ed Buck Case jury awards $2 million to Gemmel Moore's mother.
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On today in homophobia, a young man quasi-decapitated a gay elder he called
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a pedophile. And now he's going to jail.
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Today in trans, a landmark ruling could protect trans Europeans' rights to correct ID documents.
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Also in trans, James Tallarico stands by defense of trans youth.
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Today in transphobia, Kansas is a fucked up state. A state restricts IDs and
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bathrooms, some Trans-Kansans,
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Also in transphobia, federal prisons are beginning to force trans inmates off hormone therapy.
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Also in transphobia, Trump won't sign new laws until Congress passes SAVE Act
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with anti-transphobia.
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And also, World Athletics asks athletes to pay 185 pounds.
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Also, also, also, also, also, yeah. Also, war in Iran.
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Also, new Pokemon starters. Also, what's the last thing you read?
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Also, what's new? I am so tired of all this, like, shit.
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We only three months into this year, so. God. Dang. Buckle up. How are y'all?
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What's new with you? I'm taking a sewing class. That's cute.
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Yeah. That's nice. I decided I need an additional skill for the apocalypse.
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You're absolutely right. For the pending end of the world. So I thought sewing was a good option.
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Yeah. Very cool. I finished my first tote bag. So I'm really excited.
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It was really cute. It's fun. It's very meditative.
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It's interesting because I haven't been in school for like 11 years now.
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And so it's interesting to be back in it. I'm such a nerd. I love school.
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Give me structure. Tell me what to do.
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Right. And I just eat it up. That's cute. Yeah, I finished my tote bag and now
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we're working on pajama pants.
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Is it like hand stitching or is it like machine? With a machine. A sewing machine. Yeah.
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So I learned how to like thread the machine, how to do the little bobbin thing.
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Come on, little sad hustle. I know, right? So it's cute. I'm excited.
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So I went to downtown to get some fabric. Shit's expensive.
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Is it? I don't realize how expensive sewing is. Yeah. Like I spent like 53 bucks
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on the material I needed to make my pajamas for class. Yeah. Damn.
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Well, is it like a fancy material or what is it? It's just flannel,
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girl. Really? It's just motherfucking flannel. Is that like?
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I could get you some little t-shirts.
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Right? Is that like inflation prices or is that like normal? I don't know.
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I mean, it probably depends on the area because I got, when I got the materials
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for my tote bag, it was a lot cheaper, but it was also a lot less material and
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different materials. So it probably just depends on what you get.
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So I need to shop around. So if y'all know any like fabric stores around Long
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Beach, I know, hit me up. Let us know.
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Sign into our DMs. Not Joanne's. She's gone now. I know. So sad.
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Have you seen? There's like a weak ass selection at Michael's of fabric and
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it's like nothing you'll ever use. It's like an aisle.
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Like, did you go to Santee Alley or where did you go? I went to a store called
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Michael Levine. So it's right there. Oh, yeah.
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Really? And it was expensive. Yeah, I read and everyone's saying that it was
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cheap. I used to go there because they used to have bins that are like dollar
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bins, or at least back in the day they did. I don't know.
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I think they do. The problem is, is with this sewing class, I have to like make
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sure I have enough yardage, you know, for the project.
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So I think that's also the issue.
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So I understand why people are doing like the up cycles and going to thrift
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stores and doing it because it's expensive to do it from scratch.
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Yeah, there's some places that you just got to find your place.
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Yeah. So I want to go back to downtown LA and just walk around and shop around and see what they have.
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Right. It might even be different after the ice raids. I don't even know. Oh.
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Yeah. Well, that's cute. How empowering. Yeah. It's very cute.
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And I'm very proud of myself for like learning a new skill and like trying something new.
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So I always wanted to like make my own clothes because I go to stores.
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I'm like, none of this is cute.
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And also, it just feels very gender. So I want to like create some genderless.
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Nice. You know? Create something new. Yeah.
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That's fun. I know I've been wanting to get creative too. And I've been trying
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to figure out like ways to like,
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do something creative and i keep having the idea
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of like going back to doing some like fashion something but
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i just like don't i'm not doing anything well i'm going to lbcc and those those
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courses are free you just take them as non-credit and you get graded so you
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know like how well you're doing but you have to pay nothing and it's a bunch
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of different things so the one i'm taking is part of a three courses oh it's
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beginning sewing then like intermediate and then like.
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Tailoring why are they offering it non-credit because it's part of like this
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adult education program so the idea is you get these skills and then you you
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can go into the workforce,
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or have some sort of skill at the end of it okay nice that's
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why i'm kind of like but they should give you the credit so that they
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know that you have the credit you get a little certificate at
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the end okay yeah a little certificate of completion and
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so yeah i'm doing that and i also took a second course of like fashion
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illustration like an eight-week course that's
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moving so fast it's ridiculous it's cute
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i'm learning how to do illustrator like i'm really enjoying that
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like i always wanted to learn how to do it because in the life i did like photography
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and i always want to learn photoshop and when i did it was just really difficult
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because i was learning by myself but with this class they're they're teaching
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us photoshop and illustrator so i'm learning kind of a bunch of different things
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is it easier because you actually like
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want to know how to do it yeah i think
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so yeah because i think if i did it on my i think it's that and getting instruction
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and having like youtube videos and following youtube videos are pretty close
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and like telling you what to do that was very helpful so that's cool i'm gonna
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finish up i had to create a collection so that's due in a few weeks so i had to get on that okay.
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How many pieces in this collection? Six pieces. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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And I had to, like, draw them and show where the seams are and where the top
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stitch is and, like, show a proper neckline.
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So, like, it's a very involved process. Do they—is it like you have to invent
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original pieces or is it like you just have to recreate stuff?
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That you've seen, like, for magazines or TV shows? A bit of both because we
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picked, like, inspirations for our pieces. Uh-huh.
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And there's nothing in there that says you can't trace those.
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Hmm. So, it'll probably be a mixture of both.
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I'm excited to see your line. I know. I'm excited. It's kind of like what we talked about earlier.
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My idea, like, just making it very, like, Chicano and Mexican and indigenous. Yeah.
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Kind of mixing those things. So you had to pick, like, a fashion designer.
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And I picked, oh, what's his name? He did a brand with Adidas. Willie.
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Willie something. No. So he's, like, the Chicano fashion designer from East LA, actually.
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Oh, okay. And so he blew up doing very similar things.
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But his stuff is, I like his stuff. It's also very, like. Dark tones, dark colors.
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And I think I want to bring in like color and stuff like that.
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Laid over black to make it stand out. But we'll see.
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Very fun. Can't wait to check that out. I'm excited.
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That's cool. What about you, sir? Have you been up to? I've just been traveling.
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So I just came back from Puerto Rico. How was that? How was Puerto Rico? It was beautiful.
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Beautiful weather, beautiful sand, beautiful water, beautiful man.
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It's just beautiful all the way around. The weather was, only downfall was I got bit by mosquitoes.
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A lot oh yeah but other than that we went to
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the rural area went to the touristy area as
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well went to the hiking at the
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waterfalls in the rainforest did you
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go to bad bunny's home uh no we
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did it but he we went to a restaurant that
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i think he helped start or like he co-owns with
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a friend called la la puerto rico that's cute
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um it was beautiful inside the food was delicious the
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waiters were beautiful nice tell us
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about the men right i mean they they were everywhere i mean it's beautiful just
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eye candy everywhere but yeah it was a i feel like i want to go back again because
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it was just a beautiful time but it didn't have enough time to venture out to
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the whole island oh i see you see so we were just basically like in the So,
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San Juan. Wait, San Juan or San Jose? One of the Sands. And then Calubra.
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But yeah, so hopefully I'll be able to travel some more this year and try to
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de-stress from what's going on in the world.
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What's new with you? Almost new with me.
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I made a flower out of metal.
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You just said it was new. Right. That's creative. Yeah, it's hella creative.
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I was trying not to, because I've had such a good reaction from it,
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that I'm trying to keep it on the low at this point.
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Because now people are going to expect more from me. Who did you make it for?
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I made it, originally I made the first flower, I made it for my uncle.
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Because I wanted to make him like some kind of metal art piece for the backyard.
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So he could have it. Because his backyard is like his space. Is it a big one?
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No, it's like the flower that I made is, I'll show you a picture.
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It's like about my palm size and hold
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on girl but that's really cool like i recently saw people are
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doing workshops teaching people how to make like metal roses and they charge
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a class for like 110 per person oh well maybe i should be fucking charging classes
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then exactly you can be creative and make some money oh that's cute okay that's
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awesome let me see so here it is.
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In my little plant that is very detailed
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yeah it is very detailed it was funny
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because i kind of like just copied the idea from like
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a paper flower like thing because
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like if you have like a piece of sheet metal i kind of just like
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pretend it's like a piece of paper so i'm like okay i can just kind of bend
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it or like create these shapes yeah and so
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i made a hibiscus flower and then but
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because the gauge of the metal is like so thick and
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i'm already old now like oh my god it puts
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so much pressure on my forearms and i'm like i already have like carpal tunnel
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and all this shit so it's like i'm like this hurts to
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do this maybe i just need better tools but i don't
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know it took a lot out of me just to make the one but now
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like my uncle has seen it and he was like so excited about it and i'm like oh
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no he wants to start a whole line a whole line girl i'm like oh no too much
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pain but i mean it's a good idea maybe i'm gonna i'm like thinking like maybe
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i'll do some kind of piece, like a big piece,
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with detailed metal flowers. That'd be cute.
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Or maybe even make a line of photograph, series of bouquet, different bouquets of different species.
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Yeah. You should make a metal piece with a queer LPC.
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I could try to do something like that. You're right. That'd be cute.
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I mean, just put in some lights in there. Right. Sorry, Neon Sign Company.
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I know i should just do that thank you that's
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why i need the ideas um but yeah
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so just trying to like creep creative and like i started doing like this embroidery
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i brought this like in like do-it-yourself embroidery kit and it's like like
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a nature scene i'll show that oh like stitching yeah like stitching because
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like i wanted to also learn how to do embroidery because i don't know i got
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this idea to just start doing embroidery work that's cute embroidery is cute.
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This oh nice oh
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wow that's cute so like my idea is like okay
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just trying to figure out how to do stitching so like i can
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create my own original things that's cool just
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something better it's like so much better to like get
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my hands on like that little circle that little embroidery circle
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than like getting on my phone because i'll turn
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on the tv and i'll just like have that playing whatever the fuck it is
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i'm not really really paying attention and then i'm just like doing that
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and i'm like oh my god this is so much better than doom scrolling and that's
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all you really need is like something to focus your hands on right break
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yeah i'm always talking to like
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my clients about because i have i practice from
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my very like decolonial social justice perspective
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so we have a lot of conversations around what's happening in
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the world and i have a lot of clients who are political
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who want to do things some who can and
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some who can't and i'm always talking about like yes
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be involved and stay up to date but you also need to like protect your nervous
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system right you can't be in it all the time because then it's that's not a
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not sustainable but b also that's gonna lead to burnout that's gonna take you
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out of the fight and we need as many people in the fight so we got to do things and fight.
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Fight in a way that's sustainable. So we need breaks like that. We need to find hobbies.
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We need to bring joy into our life in the doom and gloom of all of this.
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Me and my fiance had a nice date the other night too.
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We went to this Mexican place that originally was really not good and gave it
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a second chance for no reason.
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And it was thankfully good. Oh, good. So it was a nice time.
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Yeah, and then just like my sister's birthday, just
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reconnecting with family that's amazing it's cute but yeah definitely like this
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whole like media burnout like the other day when you started seeing like all
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those like oh and iran iran is gonna start bombing california and it's like bitch like roms.
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For like two hours i was kind of like oh shit
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i'm gonna be working at the airport i'm like am i am i gonna get bombed at
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work then i started reading all these other things
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they're like oh they can actually reach us and i'm like oh you're right so
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i'm like fucking bitches propagandizing but
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it's wild to see it like the other day i was at the gym and
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they love playing the news of the gym i don't know but anyway
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there was this this segment on this
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guy who came from iran and his restaurant in
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the valley and i'm just like why are you playing this this
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makes no sense as why you're doing this like we're at war you're like doing
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a warm and fuzzy piece and at the end of it the the owner was like oh and i
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just think trump is doing a great thing going out and liberating and being peace
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i'm like oh that's why that is why you put this person on the news,
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it's wild to see it in action that's crazy i don't know i know it is wild to
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see it in action and it's kind of like oh is this where we really are yeah i
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mean it's always been in action but i I think it's like,
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you're not even hiding it now. Like, it's so obvious.
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It really does feel like Kim Jong-il status at this point. With him putting
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his fucking picture up and everything. Like, go by.
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I feel like, yeah, everyone's tired. I'm like, even when I've been off of work,
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and I'm like, it doesn't matter how many days off of work, I'm still tired. Yeah.
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That is also true. I mean, also this time change. This time change kicked my
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butt. Yeah, the first couple days was rough. You're kind of right, that jet lag.
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Yeah, but I don't know about any of these topics, I think. But one of the ones
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that did stick out to me, because I think we talked about it when it actually
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happened back in the day. Do y'all remember about that young black male in West
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Hollywood, Jamel Moore?
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Oh, yeah. He was a 26-year-old black gay man, died of a meth overdose in Buck's
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West Hollywood apartment in 2017 after Buck provided the drugs that led to his death.
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His death was the first of two fatal overdoses tied to Buck's home.
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So Buck was convicted back in 2021 on nine federal counts, including distribution
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of meth, resulting in death related to the deaths of Jamel Moore in 2017 and Timothy Dean in 2019.
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Another black gay man who died under nearly identical circumstances in Buck's apartment.
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In 2022, Buck was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison. Yeah.
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His mother has now been awarded $2 million to the mother of Jamel Moore in the
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wrongful death lawsuit against disgraced Democrat donor Ed Buck.
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The jury, five men and three women, found Buck, 71, and a former Rest Hollywood
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resident, civilly liable for Moore's 2017 death and awarded Nixon damages for the loss of her son.
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She said, I miss my son every single day. There isn't a moment that goes by
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that I don't think about him.
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Nixon said in a statement, this verdict doesn't bring him back,
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but it gives me some peace knowing someone was finally held accountable for what happened to Jamil.
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So I'm glad that justice did come because I know a lot of people were saying
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when it first came out, like, oh, like he's a big donor and,
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you know, nothing happened to people with money and things of that nature.
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So I'm kind of glad that justice was served, that
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he got sentenced and that the mob was least
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able to do something or receive something
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in that aspect it's r.i.p
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to those two black kings and fuck you
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buck so he was like murdering them on
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purpose or no he was just you know he was just going to west hollywood and picking
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up younger black man and just you know drugging them and like you know pmp yeah
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you know what i'm saying that's why it's very what was it dommer jeffrey Dahmer. Yep. Back in the day.
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Everyone needs to be careful. You need to be careful. You know,
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it's interesting, like, party and play, because I feel that requires so much trust.
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Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not in your right state of mind.
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And plus, if I'm just meeting you, you don't know how that person,
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when they do drugs, you don't know how they react. People react to drugs differently.
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Or even what they have, or what's in it. And it's also true,
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not even for the safety reason.
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That's why you got to keep some test strips on you. That's true.
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Some harm reduction. Yeah.
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It's very unsafe. Mm-hmm.
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Now, I was just going to say that I used to... PNP? No, I didn't.
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But I would allow gentlemen who were PNPing by themselves to come to my place.
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Like, I didn't care. Like, I would fuck whoever.
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And so, but they do. They do act crazy at a rate. Yeah, because you just don't
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know how they're going to react. They can flip on a switch. Yeah. Easily.
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So it's like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
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It's not even that worth it. No. There is one article I want to bring up,
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and the unanimous decision came from a three-judge panel of the Fourth Circuit, U.S.
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Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, overturning a prior judge's
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ruling in 2004 that the statute violated anti-discrimination protections under
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federal law as well as the Constitution.
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In defense of the first of its kind ruling, the Fourth Circuit panel stated
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that since the law applies to specific procedures, not specific individuals,
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it does not illegally discriminate against transgender people.
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So what they're saying so there was something about
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the supreme court rejected trying to overturn
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tennessee's ban on gender affirming care and so
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these judges are taking that saying like oh so we can ban gender affirming care
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and on top of that since we don't discriminate against transgender people and
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we're looking and banning specific procedures they thinking that they can just
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deny care to trans people regardless of their age.
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Because they're focusing on recommand procedures rather than banning it from particular people.
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What? Yeah. So...
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Wait, I'm really high.
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So they're just banning trans people in general from getting any care?
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Yeah, this court did, yeah. Like even for a cold?
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No, they're gender affirming care. Oh, they're gender affirming,
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I'm sorry. Yeah, they're gender affirming care.
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Well. So it was actually the first time adult care has been banned.
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Oh, I see, I see, I see. Damn, you know what? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm,
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mm-hmm. So that's why it's such a big deal.
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Because it's mostly for, in the past, it was mostly for minors.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, it's right there, right?
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I keep seeing this online. They keep talking about transgenocide in America.
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And then people are saying, like, oh, that's such an extreme term.
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But that's one of the things they're doing is they're trying to eliminate a
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way of life for these people.
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And that's one of the markers of genocide. yeah right i
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mean that's exactly what it is yeah it's
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wild because like okay if trans people don't
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get their gender affirming care like that causes a
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lot of like mental health um issues right
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depression anxiety you know and you
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sit with those long enough like people are going to lose hope people are
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going to become suicidal and the thing is
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is it's so easily fixed right you give
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people the care that they want the care that they need to align
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to themselves and none of this will will there's
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no need to put people through mental anguish right
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because they still are like i think like at the latest psychological
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i don't know books do they still consider trans like mental disorder it's in
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the dsm it's shifted and changed when i first got trained trained in the dsm
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it It was called something else. I can't even remember. Oh, gender identity disorder.
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Okay. Yeah, which already sounds terrible. Right. Just the word disorder on its own. Right.
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But in the newer editions, it's changed to to gender dysphoria with the idea
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of like because you're not aligned with yourself, it's causing like dysphoria,
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you know, whether it whatever that may look like for you. And it's used.
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People have to get diagnosed with it in order to get letters to get their gender affirming care.
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So it has to be in your chart the same way, like high risk sex is in the chart of people who get prep.
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Like, they have to label you with something in order to get you the care that
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you need. So how often do they update this DSM?
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Like, every 10 years. Okay. Yeah. Do you think they would just rewrite the language
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again to be like, oh, it's actually gender identity disorder again?
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I think they'll probably keep the name. The criteria stayed the same through
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all the editions I've been trained in, like from the first one to the one that's now.
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The criteria is still very much the same. Even the linguals are much the same.
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They just change the name.
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So I'll probably still be in there. Because right now, the care is dependent
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on having that diagnosis.
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Yeah. That's so crazy.
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That's so crazy. Yeah, because like... I don't know.
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I mean, what would you do in a perfect world? I mean, you would not even have that, right?
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Yeah. Because I mean, if you're going so far to fucking get hormones,
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i don't think that you're doubting it and you shouldn't be like kept from it right exactly yeah,
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i mean with the good thing with the hormones is at least here in california
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you don't have to get a letter to get hormones just go to your doctor and be
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like hey i'm interested in this but like anything that requires surgery surgery electrolysis.
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Require letters for you to be seen. And from your medical provider,
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right? You have to go to the therapist. A therapist.
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Yeah, which also is very gatekeepy on its own. Because a lot of people can't afford it.
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Yeah. So it's just like... I mean, here in California, like I work at my agency,
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we're trained to do letters for people and we take Medi-Cal.
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Oh, okay. So it is possible, but it's also very like, I don't know,
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it's really weird to do them because it just feels a little dehumanizing,
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a little gatekeepy, kind of like you know who you are but like tell me that
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you know how you're trans you know because part of the process is like what's
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your understanding of the procedure you're getting,
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what's your knowledge of it like what's your plan for care some
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of it's legit like obviously it's good to talk to people about like how are
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you planning on taking care of yourself but then like the latter half is like
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how do you know you're trans like when'd you come out like have you been living
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like all this stuff it's just very interesting to have to do that with someone
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to get what they need, you know? Exactly.
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And you know what I find interesting? Well, it's not interesting.
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I would just, I can just imagine those stories from these sessions.
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I can just only imagine like the fucking horror that people felt back in the
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day when they were growing up,
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just like having to know who you were but couldn't express it and things of
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that nature. I just can't. Yeah, it's wild.
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I mean, and it's hard because there's a lot of like co-occurring.
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So like people who are trans who also have like depression, anxiety,
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like mental health diagnoses, you know, like their expression of their trauma.
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And it's hard because it's like, the only reason y'all are suffering is because
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society and the world doesn't accept trans people.
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Right. Because literally, they're just dysphoric because people won't let them
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be who they are. Yeah, exactly.
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Society is making them crazy. I mean, that's everything in DSM,
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too. We're sad and anxious because the world is making us sad as anxious because
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we're living in a capitalistic regime, you know, Nazi America.
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But we have to keep it the same. Yeah. Well, speaking of, this article from Time...
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Alvarez, a 21-year-old who will graduate from the University of Kansas this
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spring, came out as trans six years ago and says the average Kansan has never
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bothered him about his gender.
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On campus, he walks into the men's restroom without hesitation,
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just another student moving through his day.
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That calculus is changing, he says. Kansas Republicans last week overrode the
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veto of Democratic government Laura Kelly to pass one of the most restrictive
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laws in the country for transgender residents, imposing new limits on bathroom
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access and identification.
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I want to give my skills to Kansas. I want to live in the place I've called
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home for so long, but I can't stay in a place that is going to be outwardly
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hostile to me, Alvarez tells Time.
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I think most trans people in the United States are in a place where you love
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a state, you love a people, you love a land, but it doesn't love you back.
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Kansas had last year already joined a wave of states legislating against gender-affirming
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care for minors, prohibition supported by President Donald Trump, the new law,
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Senate Bill 244, focuses on restricting identification and the use of multiple
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occupancy private spaces, reviving the debate over bathroom bills that roiled
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states such as North Carolina in 2016.
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The law goes further than many comparable bills by invalidating licenses and
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birth certificates that transgender
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people have updated to reflect their gender identities and names,
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and by allowing private citizens to file civil action of up to $1,000 against
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a person of a different sex if they are aggrieved by an invasion of privacy in some spaces.
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Wait, so you can civilly sue someone if you're trans and using a restroom or something like that?
00:29:24.510 --> 00:29:27.790
Aggrieved by an invasion of privacy. Let me see.
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Allowing private citizens to file civil action of up to a thousand against a
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person of a different sex if they are aggrieved by an invasion of privacy.
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What does that mean? I don't know what the fuck is. That means anything,
00:29:41.778 --> 00:29:45.578
right? Yeah. Well, I'm assuming, because this is a ban on what? Bathrooms?
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Uh-huh. Bathrooms. So I'm assuming that if they're giving the people the right
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to, like, civilly sue trans people if a trans person comes into a bathroom of their sex.
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I feel like the language is so all-purpose-y. Because that's probably why,
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because that's what they're going to sue for.
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My privacy was egregiously violated. Give me money.
00:30:07.638 --> 00:30:11.338
Right. That's what it sounds like to me. That's not crazy. I feel like I can
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say that to anybody about anything. Yeah.
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Go swimming it, people girl. Republican lawmakers say that the law's aim is
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to protect women and girls, while the governor fear mongers and muddies the
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waters with her misleading veto message.
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Our position remains steady. This isn't about scoring political points. Shut the fuck up.
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But doing what's right for women and girls across our communities. Oh my God.
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Jesus Christ. You know how you protect women is by teaching your boys not to
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rape them. Yeah. That part.
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You know, like, stopping and pumping money into women who are experiencing IPV.
00:30:45.938 --> 00:30:48.998
Like, you want to protect women and girls, but you don't want to check on any
00:30:48.998 --> 00:30:53.518
of these cases that are currently, like, just been in limbo forever about rape
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and murder and, okay. Yeah.
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Priorities. Right the fuck? Not only will this bill keep brothers from visiting
00:31:02.989 --> 00:31:06.249
sisters' dorms and husbands from wives',
00:31:06.829 --> 00:31:13.009
shared hospital rooms, it will cost Kansas taxpayers millions of dollars to
00:31:13.009 --> 00:31:14.989
comply with this very vague legislation.
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The goal is to single out and exclude, if not give total license to discriminate
00:31:21.469 --> 00:31:25.349
against transgender people in the state, says Logan Casey, Director of Policy
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Research at Movement Advancement Project, a think tank.
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See, the Kansas legislature has truly gutted the capacity for a regular Kansan
00:31:33.209 --> 00:31:34.569
to speak out about this bill.
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They're really moving without the consensus of Kansans.
00:31:40.109 --> 00:31:43.669
But yeah, rollback on driver's licenses and birth certificates.
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While laws in Florida, Tennessee, and Texas also barred changes to gender markers
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for new driver's licenses,
00:31:50.089 --> 00:31:53.729
Kansas' reversal of existing documents is unusual kansas
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officials expect to cancel about 1700 driver's
00:31:58.069 --> 00:32:00.969
licenses and issue new birth certificates for up
00:32:00.969 --> 00:32:03.849
to 1800 people according to
00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:07.049
the kansas department of revenue oh my god it's like that's as
00:32:07.049 --> 00:32:11.369
many people just that's that's a little bit of people but it's like you're making
00:32:11.369 --> 00:32:16.009
a huge ass stink over this a thousand fucking people two thousand people come
00:32:16.009 --> 00:32:19.649
on y'all you have to uproot everybody's laws and lives for two thousand fucking
00:32:19.649 --> 00:32:24.009
people yeah and you're gonna How much money are you going to cost Kansas in doing this?
00:32:24.309 --> 00:32:27.249
Right. Millions, right? Millions. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
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Let's see. Alvarez says that he has gone through four IDs in less than three
00:32:31.371 --> 00:32:34.391
years as he's navigated different restrictions to get a new gender marker,
00:32:34.651 --> 00:32:38.771
change his name, and renew his ID after turning 21. He recounts the shaky relief
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when he finally received the ID with his preferred gender marker and his new name.
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I was sweating bullets. I remember the moment the license slipped out of the
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machine. I just grabbed it and ran out of the DMV, Alvarez says.
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The new ID completely changed the ease of moving through life, he says.
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Now he expects to be notified by the mail that his ID is invalid,
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meaning that a fifth round of paperwork.
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It's like basically outing yourself to every single person around you,
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he says, having an ID that does not match his gender.
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It affects so many parts of your life and how the state sees you and how other people sees you.
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Fucking bullshit, man. This is the world we're in.
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This fucking sucks. Revoking IDs already issued to folks who've socially transitioned,
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legally transitioned, possibly medically transition creates a whole new
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set of problems she says this is a policy choice
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that predictably increases harm yeah what
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if you did already like medically transition and now you gotta and now your
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fucking marker is gonna say something that is actually incorrect hello yes yes
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it's also jeopardizing their ability to vote this fall dang and they can not
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vote because of Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah, because they're IDs.
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Oh, yeah, because they're invalid, right? Because they're going to be like,
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oh, this is voter fraud. It's not who you say you are.
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You're not a man. You're a woman. Wild. Mm-hmm.
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Critics fear bounty hunter bathroom provision. The new law's bathroom provisions
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not only restrict access, they create a bounty hunter regime,
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says LGBTQ right group Lambda Legal, by allowing people to effectively sue transgender
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people who use the restroom not of their biological sex.
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The bill also allows people to be criminally charged with a Class B misdemeanor for repeat violations.
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Joy Mayer, a non-binary Kansas resident, participated in a PN at the Kansas
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State House in Topeka earlier this month to protest the bill.
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They interpret the bill as the Kansas legislator telling trans people,
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we're going to make it so unsafe for you that you want to move. Literally.
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You know what cis Kansas people need to do? They need to go to have bathroom in.
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People need to go and use the wrong restroom and get arrested for doing it.
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They need to clog this shit up. That's crazy. I think, I don't know where the fuck I was just at.
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I think it was in Puerto Rico that the bathroom, oh, no, no, no.
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Where the fuck was I at? Because I was like, it literally is just,
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the bathroom is free fall.
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Anybody and everybody got to go to the same goddamn bathroom.
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The thing is, is that it's a single door in each urinal or bathroom.
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So, like, men and women walk in the same fucking bathroom, but you get your own style.
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Like, what's so hard about that? Yeah. like it
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like what the fuck it's true i mean
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but i think in the in the society and i'm
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not saying just america i think obviously like um in
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a society that really is entrenched with like violence against women and i feel
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like america is for some reason like super high on that like granted happens
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everywhere like i said but i think america just seems way more intense i just
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feel like that's not part of our culture right like we have such a hierarchy between the genders.
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That men treat women like shit and harm them, you know, where that doesn't feel
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as safe here as it does in other countries.
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But it's also stupid the way that we divide the bathroom because I feel like it almost feels like,
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i'll harken to like cattle call days where you're just like meat
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going in a line and it's like you divided up the boys and the
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girls and it's like why are we doing that for the bathroom
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in public spaces like why isn't there just like a bathroom with a closed door
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right yeah or individual stalls like there are now right we don't we don't need
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urinals like making a whole like with all the fucking crazy you're going through
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it's like why don't you just de-gender all the bathrooms,
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just solve the fucking problem right there yeah,
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but you know what there's so much drama in the world that we don't have time
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for it today so I think we're going to have to get back to some more tea soon
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but I just wanted to give you all a little update,
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from all of us here at the Quirrell BC I like to think of myself, Nina, Dr.
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Mikey, and Christelle you're good enough you're smart enough and doggone it
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people like you. Good night.
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See you soon. Bye.