E291 – LET’S GET FREAKY!

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Karen Holton TV presents the Quantum Guide Show, featuring ordinary
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people sharing their extraordinary gifts within our social realities. Hi, everybody.
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Welcome back to The Quantum Guide Show. This is episode 291.
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And for if you're new to the show or to
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the channel, I'm Karen Holton. Today, I'm very pleased to
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bring on my special guest, Tommy Callum. Tommy is the
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host and creator of Tommy Callum's Let's Get Freaky podcast,
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a thrilling exploration into the world of the paranormal and
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high strangeness. Diving deep into real-life encounters with ghosts, cryptids
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like Bigfoot and Dogman, UFOs, extraterrestrials, conspiracies, and beyond, Tommy
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brings authentic stories from guests worldwide.
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Having grown up.
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In a haunted house, Tommy has personally experienced a vast
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amount of high strangeness, including seeing UFOs and encountering other
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bizarre paranormal phenomena. Today we delve deep into his paranormal
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history and learn about some of the most fascinating guests
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he has hosted on his podcast. To find out more
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about my guest, all of the links are featured below
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in the description.
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I want to thank you.
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In advance for liking, commenting, subscribing, and please do share
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Without further ado, here's our awesome guest for the day, Tommy. Yay, Tommy.
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The man, the myth, the legend, Tommy Callum.
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Thank you very much. I'm so excited to be here.
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So thank you very much for having me. I'm excited
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to get freaky with you tonight. Let's do it. Awesome.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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So why don't we start With you talking about how
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did you get interested in all of this.
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And a little bit about your background, Tommy, that'd be awesome.
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Yes, I've always been fascinated with the paranormal and with
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high strangeness since day one, since I can remember, to
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be honest. It's always been a fascination that I've had
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since I was a kid. I was always very scared
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as a kid. I was one of those kids, I
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know a lot of kids are scared when they're young,
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but I used to, I used to be terrified of
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the dark. I always felt like there was something there
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watching me. I never, I've never to this day, I'm
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never comfortable, you know, in the dark on my own.
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I'm just not, I just, I can't, I just can't
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do it. So even today, even today, you know, if
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my wife's away or something like that, I will have
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a TV on or I'll have a light on in
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my room or I'll have a podcast playing because I'm
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just not comfortable sitting there in the dark on my
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own because of, the kind of things I've experienced and seen.
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But I guess it kind of really goes back to,
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you know, the start of it was when I was
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a kid, we grew up in a house that was
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quite highly haunted, I would say. You know, there was
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a lot going on there. It wasn't always negative. It
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wasn't always, we had some good times in the house,
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but ultimately the lasting memories of that house is, it
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was quite scary. There was a lot of weird stuff
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going on. There was a weird vibe. Um, my whole
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family felt it. It wasn't just me. It was my dad,
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my mom, my brother. We all kind of had some
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weird experiences in there and all, all felt the same
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about it to this day. And I, when we look
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back and it wasn't really until we left the house,
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I was 12 years old and we left. I remember
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my dad saying, I'm so glad we got out of
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that house. I'm so glad we got out because we
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all felt it. We all felt this kind of this energy.
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And yeah, But as I say, it wasn't always negative.
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There was good times in the house. We were there for,
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I think it was there six years, so it wasn't
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that bad. But it was just your everyday things, like
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hearing someone walking around the house at night when everyone
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was in bed, weird sounds. For me, it was like
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the weird vibe. I always felt like there was somebody
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watching me. I never really felt comfortable. Um, but there was,
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there was one night, which was kind of the night
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that really stands out for me, which really probably the
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reason what, you know, took me on this route of,
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of the paranormal. I was, me and my brother shared
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a room at the time. As I said, I was
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a terrible sleeper. So if I woke up during the night,
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I would be out of my bed and I'd be
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in my mom and dad's room and I'd be trying
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to get in bed with them. And I was becoming
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a bit of a nuisance. You know, I can imagine
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for my mom and dad, I was a right pain.
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So they were trying to stop me from doing this.
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I was about 10 years old when this happened. So
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I was at that age where I really should be
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staying in my room and stuff. But I remember this
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one night I woke up and we was in bunk beds,
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me and my brother, and I was on the top bunk.
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And I woke up and I looked down. All the
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lights were off in the room. So I'm scared anyway.
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Normally I'd wake up and even if there's nothing there,
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I'm out of there and I'm in my mom and
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dad's room, but this particular night there was something in
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the room. So I've looked down at my desk, which
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was in the corner of our bedroom. And there was
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a man sitting there at the desk, a full bodied
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apparition entity, whatever you want to call it. There was
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a man there full bodied sitting at my desk, kind
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of like sitting there with his, with his head in
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his face, kind of looking in my kind of direction.
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But he didn't look at me, smile at me, acknowledge me.
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He was just kind of there. And I was just terrified.
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I just remember I just screamed. Because I had seen
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other weird stuff at night. And I had seen weird
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stuff as a kid. But this was the first time
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it was undeniable for me that there was something there.
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There was no, is this my eyes playing tricks? Is
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this a trick of the light? It was very clear
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that there was a man there. The room wasn't completely
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pitch black because we had these Fred Flintstone curtains, me
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and my brother. And they were quite light. So a
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lot of light used to get through them. They weren't
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thick curtains. So the room was pretty lit up from
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the streetlights. But I could see this guy. I could
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see he was sitting there. He kind of looked like,
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this is how I describe him. He kind of looked
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like William Shakespeare. It wasn't William. I don't think it
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was William Shakespeare, but he had that look. You know,
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everyone says to me, oh, you're the guy that saw
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William Shakespeare. I don't think it was William Shakespeare, but
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it looked like he was from that era. You know,
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he had like the long brown hair, he had like
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this brown suit on, he had like this little beard.
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He had this like white, I don't even know what
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it is, but it's like white, like thick neck around him.
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He had like these brown boots on. I remember so
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much detail of this guy. And I was terrified. I've
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screamed for my mum. She's come running in. Now, she
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can't see this guy. So I'm pointing to the corner saying,
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there's a man, there's a man. I'm just terrified. I
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couldn't even get out of my bed. I was so
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freaked out. And my mum's trying to calm me down.
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She's getting a little bit annoyed with me because I'm
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a bit of a problem sleeper, as I say. So
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she's trying to calm me down and telling me there's
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nothing there. But I can still see this dude. She's
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gone over to the corner of the room where he is.
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I don't know if she's gone through him or anything
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like that, but I couldn't tell you if she did.
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But she went over there and came back to me
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and went, there's nothing there. You need to lay down.
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You need to go to sleep. You know, you can't
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keep doing this and stuff because obviously I was, you know,
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I was a problem and they were trying to get
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me to stay in my bed. And my mum and
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dad were very supportive. They weren't like bad parents. They
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were just trying to sort out my sleepings. But so
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I just remember I was so terrified and my mum
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was like adamant that I wasn't leaving that room. I
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wasn't getting in their bed. So I just basically went
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under my covers and I just remember laying there terrified, sweating,
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you know, just sweating buckets. I was just, and I
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kept looking and this guy was still there. He didn't disappear.
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He didn't move. He didn't, as far as I'm aware,
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he didn't change his position or anything. He was just there, solid,
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but solid, like, me and you right now. He wasn't,
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he wasn't slightly see for anything like that. It was
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just like, there's a man there. And this went on
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for quite a while. I'm looking, I'm going back under
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my covers. And I just remember just being just so
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hot and just sweating, but terrified. And I just, I didn't,
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I didn't even want to move. Cause I was like,
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if I move, this guy's going to see me moving.
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And I just, I just wanted to get away. And,
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but I couldn't, there was nowhere to run.
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Really.
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I was just, just terrified. Anyway, somehow, after a lot
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of looking and going back under, I fell asleep that night,
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woke up the next morning. Obviously I've looked straight away.
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I remember, I remember just, I'm never going to forget
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something like that is, you know, it's such an incredible experience, terrifying.
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I really stuck with me, obviously massively. Um, but that
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was kind of the first, you know, for, for me,
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like the, it was like an undenying, uh, an undeniable experience.
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You know, I'd seen something, And it wasn't, me dreaming
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because it went on for too long. It wasn't me
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imagination because I'd not seen anything like that before and
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I've not really seen anything as clear as that since.
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So I think if it was my imagination, I'm going
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to see that again. I've seen other weird stuff and
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I did actually see other things in that house, but
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not quite to that level right so.
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Yeah you know you know listening listening to you uh
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really brings back memories i'm not sure if i told
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you when i was on your show or not but
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i was the same when i was a child and
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it was like we knew there were i don't know
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something beings i'll just use that word we knew they
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were there nobody else can see them we can't always
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see them sometimes we can but petrified being under the covers,
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not being able to breathe because.
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I'm so scared.
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And then I had an apparition that came to rescue
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me of a fiery Griffin. So Griffin has an Eagle
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head and Eagle wings and a lion's body, but it
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was all made up of fire and it just appeared
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to me. So I don't know if it appeared it
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to my physical eyes or in my imagination or And
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it just let me know that whenever I was afraid,
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I could, in my imagination, call to it and it
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would appear and it would protect me. And then I
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started to sleep at night. But I was absolutely terrified.
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And a lot of people in our viewer audience have
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had the same thing. And I think it's because we're
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sensitive to picking up on it. And the house I
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grew up in, Always had paranormal stuff, doors slamming, footsteps,
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something going up and down the stairs. But in my family,
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nobody freaked out about it. We used to call the
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entity George. And it didn't matter where we moved, George came.
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With us, which I thought was weird.
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Anyway, I don't want to take up too much time,
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but please feel free to, yeah, continue.
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That's interesting, you know, I mean, because... I just say
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it wasn't always negative in the house. It wasn't always
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like we were always scared. It was always bad, but
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there was a lot of times where the whole family
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felt it. Yeah. Especially me in particular, my, my brother
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also saw something in the same room in the same
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kind of area that I saw the man. Now, my brother,
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if you talk to my brother, he's a, he's a
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lot more skeptical to me. He's still, he's still open,
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but he's a lot more, you know, I love this stuff.
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He's not, too interested in it which i find quite
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interesting when you get people like that have experiences because
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on the one hand they're like i'm not too sure
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but i did have this wild experience and that's basically
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my brother because he was so he would have been
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about seven i think when this happened so he was
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three years younger than me my brother and i think
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he was six seven when this happened i believe it
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was i believe it was after what i saw anyway
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but we didn't talk about it too much when we
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were kids it's more now that we kind of bring
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it back up and stuff but Um, he was, he
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was in the, the bunk bed underneath me. Right. And
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he woke up one night and he said that he
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kind of looked, he woke up and he looked into
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the corner of the room. So this would have been
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where I saw the dude sitting and he saw two
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red eyes and he said, he just saw two floating
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red eyes and they just started coming towards him. And
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then they just kind of faded out. And, uh, when
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I talked to him about it now, he's like, I'm
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not a hundred percent sure if I was dreaming or not,
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you know, which is fair enough. You know, he might've been,
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I'm not saying he's definitely not, it's his experience, but
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I think he saw something there. You know, I think
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it's the same area that I saw the dude. We
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all had this feeling of, of summit was there. And
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that was kind of the way, if it was the
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same thing that I saw, if it was the same entity,
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you know, maybe that's how this thing manifested to him.
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I don't know. Um, he's, I don't know if, if
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my brother's quite as, because I was so into this stuff,
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even as a kid, I was quite interested. He, he wasn't.
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So he kind of didn't really still to this day.
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He doesn't like talking about these sort of things too much, but, um, he,
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he saw that he had that experience. So that was his,
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his kind of thing that he saw. But again, if
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you ask him, he heard the weird sounds and, you know, like,
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like we all did. I saw something else. Um, like
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another physical, but I saw an entity, another entity. Um,
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this one was during the day. So this was, this
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was quite different because it was during the day. And
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at the time I wasn't, I wasn't scared. I wasn't
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worried about anything. I was in my mom and dad's bedroom.
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And I remember like my mom and dad had like
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mirrors in their room on the wall, um, on their
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like wardrobe. And I was like, I was in their
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room and I was kind of just being silly. I
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can't really exactly remember what I was doing, but I
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was like dancing in front of the mirror, basically just
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being a fool. And I'm dancing away and I'm in
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my own little world doing my own thing. And all
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of a sudden I see this like in the corner
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of my eye, but I think I kind of saw
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it in the mirror first, which kind of made me look.
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And I saw this blonde naked lady walk into the room, right?
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And I'm following her. And I'm following her all the way.
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She walked into the bathroom. My mom and dad had
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an en suite, had a bathroom in their room. And
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this lady's walked into the bathroom. Now my mom was
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blonde and it wasn't uncommon for her to walk around
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the house naked sometime. You know, that wasn't the strangest
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thing in the world. So I assumed it was my mom.
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I remember going, mom, just, and I just started talking
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to her and I've followed her into the bathroom thinking
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I've just seen my mom walk into the bathroom and
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I'm talking to her. mom did it. I can't remember
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what I said, but I said something, walked into the
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bathroom and she wasn't there. No one was there. And
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I was like, I just remember being like, this wasn't
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a fear like I had when I saw the man.
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In my room.
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This was like, what the heck? This was like, I've
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just seen my mom and she's not there. I ran downstairs,
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ran into my kitchen and my mom's in the kitchen,
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you know, fully clothed. And I was like, mum, did
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you just walk past me in your bedroom? And obviously
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she didn't. I was just trying to work out what
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I'd just seen. And she went, no, I've been here
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the whole time.
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So that was something else. And at the time, I
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didn't think, obviously, I saw something. I know I saw something.
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I didn't think too much about what it was until
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recently talking about it. And some people have said to me,
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that sounds like maybe you saw a doppelganger. of my mom, maybe,
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or because, you know, it really looked like my mom,
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you know, this thing I thought was my mom. Uh,
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so that was another time I physically saw something in
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that house.
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Wow.
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That's super interesting.
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Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was weird, weird for me
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growing up, but like I said, there was no fear. Um,
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You know, one time I was downstairs fiddling with the
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stereo in the rec room and nobody was home. And
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all of a sudden the kitchen was above me. All
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of a sudden I heard some pans crashing and banging.
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Had come home and I didn't realize it. And that
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she was looking for a pot, maybe a lid for
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a pot or something. She was hauling them all out,
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you know, to find what she was looking for. So
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I went, oh, I guess mom's home. So I went
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upstairs to the kitchen. It took me just a few
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seconds to get there. And there was nothing out of place.
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My mom wasn't home. There was nobody there. And it
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is so amazing that we have these experiences. But what's
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also really amazing is how society is. regulates itself and
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shuts us down so that we're not talking about it.
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Like unless you meet a kindred spirit, or somebody who
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has had something happen to them or someone close to them,
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we get really stigmatized. Actually, we can even be diagnosed,
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you know, in the wrong circumstances. So it's interesting how
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much pressure there is to declare us weird or crazy
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or And yet look at how many of us have
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had these experiences, Tommy. So what's your take on that?
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Well, that's the thing. How often do you tell someone,
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say you meet someone at work or you're talking to
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someone randomly, whoever, in the street or whatever, and you
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say to them about paranormal stuff? You might say to them, oh,
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I do a paranormal podcast. That comes up quite a
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lot for us. And you get that look. where they
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look at you like, oh, you're into paranormal stuff. Yeah,
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love it, love it. And they're like, oh, I'm not
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sure about that. But then how many times, and we
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all say this, in the next breath, they tell you,
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there was this one time. You know, if I had
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a dollar for every time someone said there was this
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one time, I'd be, you know. Because everyone, well, most people,
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you do meet some people that have never experienced anything,
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but most people have got some sort of, wild story
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that either they've experienced themselves or a family member that
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they know and trust has told them and you know
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and and that should be enough for them as well
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really so many people have these experiences. Yeah, you're right.
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It has sort of been embedded in us that you're crazy.
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I feel like we're in a time now that's slightly
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different because I feel like because of shows like yours
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and what we do, people are more open to talk
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about this stuff because it's more out there. It's more
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easy to find these conversations now. Whereas before there was
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a few shows on the TV, but even sometimes they
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were taken quite lightly. You know, now you can literally,
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you can listen to a podcast for an hour, you know,
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and hear people talking about their experiences in detail. And
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I think that that's helping. And obviously on the other foot,
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you've got, you know, I know for whatever reason, you've
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got the US government and you've got other people now
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bringing to light UFOs a little bit more. It's becoming
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a little bit more into our mainstream. So yeah, I
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think we're in a time where it is easier to
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share these experiences. But you're right, there is still that stigma.
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There is still people that will tell you you're crazy.
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But I think most people will agree that there is
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more going on around us and there's more out there
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than we can see and that we're told. And every
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now and again, we get a little glimpse of this stuff.
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Some people are a little bit more in tune than others.
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I think that's to do with belief system. I think
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if you're shut off and you don't believe in this
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stuff and you tell yourself it's not real then chances
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are you're not going to experience much and if you
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do you're going to brush it off as something explainable
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anyway you will explain it away in your mind um
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but if you're like us and you kind of sort
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of accept that there is things that can happen that
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kind of out of our control it can be scary
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sometimes depending on what you're experiencing but i think i
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think that's uh i think we're in an interesting time
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interesting time for what we do.
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I think We sure are.
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Now, I remember when I was young, like a child,
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like around 12 or something, I was always trying to
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find out, you know, what what the I guess the
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nature of reality. So, you know, when I went to
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my parents and tried to talk to them, even though
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we'd all experienced this apparition or not apparition, I don't know,
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these phenomena in the.
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House that we called George.
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When I talked to my mom about some of the
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experiences I was having, she would just say, don't talk
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like that. Don't tell anybody. They're going to think you're crazy.
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And then they're going to think the family's crazy and
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it's going to really hurt us. And so she really
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scared me, put fear into me. And then I started
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going to different churches. Didn't matter where we lived. There
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was always a church a couple blocks away. And I
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started going, you know, I didn't care what the religion was.
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I would just go to church and Then I would
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talk to, you know, the pastor or the priest or whatever.
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Then I was told, oh, my God, you do not
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want to be doing that. You're in league with the devil.
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It's demons. You're opening yourself up. And if you do,
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you're in for a.
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World of pain.
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And so here I had the choice between being crazy
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or evil. And what it caused me to do for
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quite a number of years was to shut it down
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as much as I could. and just constantly gaslight myself.
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And it just put more pressure feeling like I was
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going insane in a world that was already.
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To me pretty insane, right?
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Absolutely.
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So getting back to people who've had these experiences, I
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think sometimes there is in their thinking that it's going
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to piss God off and nobody wants to piss.
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God off, right? Or that we're in league with.
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The devil or it might be evil or demons. And
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a lot of really good people go to church. So
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I'm not against religion. I just personally don't do it
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anymore because it's too confining the whole. And every church
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you go to says they're the only ones. And it's
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kind of weird. Right. But, yeah, so I think that
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might be partly why people will gaslight themselves into the
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point where they're just thinking it's not real.
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I don't know. I think that's kind of like why,
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because Christian paranormal podcasts, for example, are quite popular. And
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I think that's because, you know, the Bible is, there's
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a lot of supernatural stuff in the Bible and in
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other religions. It's full of it. You know, there's loads
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of it. it's a part of the religion as well,
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really that this, this spiritual attacks, you know, whatever you
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want to call this stuff, it's there as well in religion.
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Yet you're told not to look into it, not to
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talk about it because, and, and I guess that goes
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back to like, I think like my grandparents generation, I
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think then it was like, if you talk about this stuff,
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you're inviting it in, which I, I think there's, I
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think I actually believe there's truth to that. I think
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you do. I think you really do invite stuff in
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when you talk about it, look into it, think about it.
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I think there is an element to that. But like
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my grandparents, for example, they had experiences. They had paranormal experiences.
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And we always talked about it growing up, to be honest.
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I was quite lucky in that sense. My family was
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quite open to talking about it. But I talked to
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a lot of people that say, like my parents or
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my grandparents, you couldn't talk about this stuff to them.
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If you mention this to them, they might believe it.
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They might have had experiences, but you just don't talk
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about it. Because if you talk about it, you're giving
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it power. And as I say, I do think there
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is an element of truth to that. Because when I
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started Let's Get Freaky podcast, I noticed there was things
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happening around me that maybe I wasn't picking up on before,
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or maybe just the fact that I was having these
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conversations and talking about it so often. I was actually...
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00:25:43.009 --> 00:25:45.089
bringing it bringing it in more and i don't know
478
00:25:45.369 --> 00:25:48.069
you know it's weird because when i first started listening
479
00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:50.710
to to podcasts and things even i used to think
480
00:25:51.130 --> 00:25:53.509
uh you know i've had these experiences and it's nice
481
00:25:53.529 --> 00:25:56.990
to hear people talking about it but am i bringing
482
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.140
it back am i am i opening myself up to
483
00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:03.819
bringing this stuff in that i don't want really you
484
00:26:03.859 --> 00:26:08.000
know um but i i obviously didn't listen to that
485
00:26:08.059 --> 00:26:11.299
because i don't know i started doing podcasts and i
486
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.880
talk about it every day so Yes. But yeah, it's,
487
00:26:14.980 --> 00:26:17.700
it's interesting. I think that it's just, it's another example
488
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.880
of the times changing. You know, I think now it is,
489
00:26:23.099 --> 00:26:26.819
you know, my kids, I try not to talk too much.
490
00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:30.019
They've had experiences, but I try not to talk, talk
491
00:26:30.059 --> 00:26:31.519
about it. My kids too much, but if they ever
492
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.460
come to me, have a question, you know, I'm not
493
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.180
going to tell them that they're crazy and they're not
494
00:26:35.220 --> 00:26:38.569
seeing what they're seeing. Cause you know, I've been there myself.
495
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.410
So it's, We're living in a time that I think
496
00:26:42.470 --> 00:26:46.690
is becoming more spiritually aware, whatever religion you are, whatever
497
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.660
belief system you are, I think people are becoming more
498
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.240
open to the supernatural world.
499
00:26:53.819 --> 00:26:57.799
Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Now, Tommy, I'm pretty sure
500
00:26:57.859 --> 00:27:01.299
you said you've also seen UFOs. So have you had
501
00:27:01.420 --> 00:27:06.549
any ET contact? Because quite often it seems those of
502
00:27:06.630 --> 00:27:09.549
us who– or I don't know, in the woo.
503
00:27:09.349 --> 00:27:11.809
Or whatever you want to call it. We do, we do.
504
00:27:11.890 --> 00:27:15.509
We see things that other people don't necessarily see. So
505
00:27:15.589 --> 00:27:16.869
I was wondering if you want to tell us a
506
00:27:16.869 --> 00:27:20.509
little bit about your UFO experience. I thought that would
507
00:27:20.529 --> 00:27:21.369
be interesting too.
508
00:27:21.490 --> 00:27:26.019
Absolutely. Absolutely. I've had some, I've had some cool, I
509
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.220
call them UFOs, not quite sure what they are, but
510
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.920
I've seen a couple of cool things in the sky
511
00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:34.079
that I cannot explain. I don't know if I've ever
512
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.099
been taken or anything like that. I don't think so.
513
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.140
but you know, like a lot of this stuff, sometimes
514
00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:40.160
people don't know, you know, a lot of these, a
515
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.299
lot of these memories are suppressed and stuff like that.
516
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:47.119
But I, when I was my first kind of, I
517
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.119
saw a UFO moment was when I was 14 years
518
00:27:50.259 --> 00:27:53.769
old and it's really weird. So me is me and
519
00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:56.690
my brother. And it was a group of friends that
520
00:27:56.710 --> 00:27:58.789
we used to play with all the time. And we
521
00:27:58.809 --> 00:28:02.390
used to play soccer in the street football. We used
522
00:28:02.410 --> 00:28:04.430
to play football in the street every day during the summer.
523
00:28:05.170 --> 00:28:08.190
And this was just a normal summer's day. It was
524
00:28:08.230 --> 00:28:11.210
me and my brother and whoever else we were playing
525
00:28:11.230 --> 00:28:14.170
with was playing like a football match in the middle
526
00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:16.990
of our street, which we always did. And I don't
527
00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:18.529
know if it was me or if it was my
528
00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:21.109
brother or if it was one of our friends that said,
529
00:28:21.230 --> 00:28:25.190
what is that in the sky? And it was a beautiful,
530
00:28:25.390 --> 00:28:29.650
clear blue sky, lovely summer's day. And we've all looked
531
00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:33.180
up and there's this thing in the sky that it's
532
00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:36.549
like nothing I've ever seen before. or since I've seen
533
00:28:36.609 --> 00:28:40.359
some things close to it on, on like Instagram and
534
00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:43.240
stuff and pictures of, you know, UFOs and things. I've
535
00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:45.740
seen things close to it, but the only way I
536
00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:48.900
can describe it is if you took a, like a
537
00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:53.519
futuristic building, like a building that you get in Dubai, right?
538
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.539
Like something like that, pick it up by a skyscraper,
539
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.869
pop it in the sky really high up and just
540
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:05.259
let it float. That is basically what we saw. And
541
00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:09.160
it was like this, this orangey silver color. I couldn't
542
00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:11.220
see if it was spinning or moving or anything. It
543
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.119
was just, it was still, you know, as far as
544
00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:15.859
I'm aware, it was just still. And it was just, just,
545
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.619
just there, just floating. And we're watching this thing for
546
00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:21.140
like five, 10 minutes, whatever it was. And we're watching it.
547
00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:22.829
We're trying to work it out. Is it a plane?
548
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.450
Is it a blimp? We're going for all the things
549
00:29:25.470 --> 00:29:27.230
that are in the sky. You know, is it a
550
00:29:27.269 --> 00:29:30.029
hot air balloon? It wasn't any of those things. It was,
551
00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:33.329
it was such a strange thing to see. It looks so,
552
00:29:34.230 --> 00:29:38.289
it looks so, Like futuristic and what it just looked
553
00:29:38.309 --> 00:29:40.630
crazy it looked like something you'd see from star wars
554
00:29:40.970 --> 00:29:44.630
that was just in the sky so but what really
555
00:29:44.670 --> 00:29:48.759
bugs me to this day really is that we just
556
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.920
we just started playing football again we didn't we didn't
557
00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:55.619
like now i'd watch that forever to try and work
558
00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:57.259
out what it was i'd get my camera out i'd
559
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.579
be i'd be on it i'd try i'd probably i'd
560
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.480
I don't know if I'd report it. I should report it, really.
561
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.319
People don't really report this stuff, but some people do.
562
00:30:05.859 --> 00:30:09.319
But I would try and investigate it more. But I
563
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.309
was 14 years old, and we just started playing football again.
564
00:30:14.150 --> 00:30:16.890
And it gets weirder because I don't really remember how
565
00:30:16.930 --> 00:30:19.789
that day ended. Me and my brother didn't really talk
566
00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:24.650
about that again, really. It was sort of gone, the memory. Obviously,
567
00:30:24.670 --> 00:30:26.279
it wasn't gone because it was there somewhere.
568
00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:27.079
Right.
569
00:30:27.829 --> 00:30:30.029
So you could, maybe I was abducted. I don't think so,
570
00:30:30.309 --> 00:30:33.509
but we, we never spoke about it. We never talked
571
00:30:33.569 --> 00:30:36.089
about it. It was just, it just happened. And we
572
00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:38.549
just started playing football again. But when I started, let's
573
00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:43.339
get freaky podcast, I kind of wrote down all the things,
574
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:45.259
the weird things I'd experienced in my life. And I
575
00:30:45.259 --> 00:30:47.220
was like, yeah, I'm going through all the things, just
576
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:51.279
like refreshing myself for talking about this stuff. And this
577
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.759
memory didn't even come back to me. Didn't even remember
578
00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:56.880
that I'd seen this incredible thing. I remember other, some
579
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.000
other UFO stuff, but not this. And I was like,
580
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.579
so basically I was doing, do you know Cat Ward,
581
00:31:03.049 --> 00:31:03.829
Paranormal Heart?
582
00:31:04.849 --> 00:31:07.069
No, no, no, I haven't had the pleasure yet.
583
00:31:07.089 --> 00:31:09.690
She's really nice. Yeah, she's really nice. I'll connect you
584
00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:12.009
with her. She's a really nice lady. And it was
585
00:31:12.049 --> 00:31:15.250
the first podcast that I'd ever been on. So I
586
00:31:15.289 --> 00:31:17.490
was a guest on her. She came on Let's Get Freaky.
587
00:31:17.829 --> 00:31:19.869
She was one of my first guests. And then she
588
00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:21.950
asked me to be on her show. And I went
589
00:31:21.990 --> 00:31:23.450
on her show, and it was the first time I'd
590
00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:25.750
been on a podcast to talk about my stuff, my
591
00:31:25.789 --> 00:31:28.829
weird experiences. And I'm talking away, and all of a sudden,
592
00:31:28.849 --> 00:31:32.490
this memory came back to me. Like, just something must
593
00:31:32.529 --> 00:31:35.789
have made it click. Don't know why. And I just thought,
594
00:31:35.809 --> 00:31:37.519
I'm going to tell her. I'm going to tell her this.
595
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.519
I don't know what this was, why I've not remembered
596
00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:43.200
this till now. But I told her, explained the story
597
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.140
to her. And then I just kept thinking, that's really
598
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:50.319
weird that I've not remembered that. But my brother listened
599
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.960
to that episode. and I don't know if it was
600
00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:54.779
the next day, but it was very soon after it
601
00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:57.339
came out. He called me up and he was like,
602
00:31:57.460 --> 00:31:59.920
Oh bro, I heard you on the podcast. And he
603
00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:01.900
liked it and all this. And he went, what was
604
00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:05.180
that thing we saw that day? That, that UFO. Cause
605
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.180
I remember that. And we, and I was like, I'm
606
00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:10.769
so glad you remember that. And I'm not just like,
607
00:32:11.130 --> 00:32:14.849
that's not just a weird dream that I've manifested. You know,
608
00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:17.410
you remember, you remember that day as well. You remember
609
00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:19.910
it happening. And that kind of, cause I found it
610
00:32:19.950 --> 00:32:21.490
weird that I'd kind of forgot something.
611
00:32:22.019 --> 00:32:22.700
Like that.
612
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.369
But he remembered it as well. So it's a weird one,
613
00:32:26.650 --> 00:32:27.769
but it was very strange.
614
00:32:28.569 --> 00:32:32.170
Yeah, sure is. You know, memory is a funny thing.
615
00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:35.970
I've been told by my ET contacts, but also it
616
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.019
rings true for me that there's millions and millions of
617
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.460
people who are making contacts. Some are, you know, what
618
00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:46.500
we would call abductees. Some are, you know, what we
619
00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:49.509
would call contactees, depending.
620
00:32:49.170 --> 00:32:50.809
On the nature of the experience.
621
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:56.869
Don't remember anything about it. Then one day something happens, boom,
622
00:32:57.190 --> 00:33:00.569
you remember it. And it's, it's a lot to, to
623
00:33:00.609 --> 00:33:03.829
deal with, you know, uh, we wonder, are we, were
624
00:33:03.869 --> 00:33:07.630
we crazy or did I imagine that? And, you know,
625
00:33:07.670 --> 00:33:09.609
how come nobody else is talking? You know, we all
626
00:33:09.650 --> 00:33:12.670
want to be normal and fit in. Well, maybe not normal.
627
00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:14.109
I don't really want to be normal.
628
00:33:14.329 --> 00:33:16.039
It's a bit too late for us.
629
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:21.230
Yeah. Yeah. But, um, It's very interesting, but I've been
630
00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:23.349
told that a lot of people don't remember for a
631
00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:26.210
whole lot of reasons. For one reason, it would interfere
632
00:33:26.369 --> 00:33:29.309
with why they're here. They're here on Earth to be
633
00:33:29.349 --> 00:33:32.859
an Earth person, to learn certain lessons. I believe it's
634
00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:39.599
soul evolution. But some of us are really sensitive. And please,
635
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.089
I want to know what you think about this. I
636
00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:45.769
think we all have the tech, the inborn technology.
637
00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:47.549
That's what I'm going to call it, even though it's.
638
00:33:47.529 --> 00:33:51.009
Biological part of our body or our brains, you know,
639
00:33:51.250 --> 00:33:56.569
but our inborn technology that somehow allows us to have
640
00:33:56.630 --> 00:34:00.769
these amazing experiences. And thank God now we can get together,
641
00:34:00.890 --> 00:34:05.470
talk about it, laugh about it, share these experiences, you know,
642
00:34:06.859 --> 00:34:11.949
because people need to basically lose the fear. As soon
643
00:34:11.989 --> 00:34:16.170
as we become afraid, we're controllable. We're no longer grounded.
644
00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:20.309
We lose our critical thinking skills. So it's much better
645
00:34:20.550 --> 00:34:23.309
to not be afraid and to meet other people that
646
00:34:23.349 --> 00:34:26.630
have had similar experiences. It just blows me away how
647
00:34:26.670 --> 00:34:31.659
many people have had some obscure experiences. And I've had them,
648
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.940
so I know. I know they're real, right? And, you know,
649
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.199
so I think we're all capable of it. And I
650
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.849
also suspect we're moving into a new reality besides all
651
00:34:44.889 --> 00:34:46.769
the crap that's going on in the world, which we
652
00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:50.050
don't have to talk about, but what's your thoughts on that, Tom?
653
00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.719
Yeah, I think, I think this stuff is naturally built
654
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.659
in us to, to be open to, to seeing, we
655
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.800
know we've got senses that are kind of supernatural anyway,
656
00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:04.050
when you think about it, you know, for example, you know, that, that,
657
00:35:04.130 --> 00:35:07.389
that sense that you sometimes get of a friend that
658
00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.440
you've not thought about for a while and, And then
659
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.570
two minutes later, lo and behold, they're ringing you. You know,
660
00:35:12.650 --> 00:35:15.630
how often does something like that happen? And you're like, well,
661
00:35:15.690 --> 00:35:17.690
I was just thinking about you. And they're like, oh,
662
00:35:17.750 --> 00:35:19.630
I'm sure you were. And I'm like, no, I literally
663
00:35:19.670 --> 00:35:21.309
was just thinking about you. You just called me. I
664
00:35:21.789 --> 00:35:23.510
was going to call you, but you've just called me.
665
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.599
So it's like that's kind of a weird supernatural ability, really,
666
00:35:27.659 --> 00:35:29.579
when you think about it. You know, when you're on
667
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.800
a bus or you're walking down the street, And all
668
00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:34.760
of a sudden you get that feeling that there's someone there.
669
00:35:34.909 --> 00:35:37.269
You've not heard nothing. You they've not called you or
670
00:35:37.309 --> 00:35:39.349
anything like that. And you turn around and then there's
671
00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:42.130
a weird dude standing behind you. You know, that's just
672
00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:45.690
a natural, that's another like natural sense that we have.
673
00:35:45.809 --> 00:35:48.230
It's not, not our eyes, you know, it's not our ears.
674
00:35:48.269 --> 00:35:51.570
It's not smell. It's just in us. So no, we've
675
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.059
just got this natural. And I think that's kind of
676
00:35:54.099 --> 00:35:58.380
what it's like. We've seen some of this, uh, the paranormal,
677
00:35:58.420 --> 00:36:00.559
you know, I think, I think it's like, it's in everyone.
678
00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:03.030
When you talk to mediums, they always say, oh, everyone
679
00:36:03.050 --> 00:36:06.349
can do this. You know, this is in everyone. It's
680
00:36:06.389 --> 00:36:09.710
just kind of being open to it and the willingness,
681
00:36:09.989 --> 00:36:12.969
you know, to let yourself be open to it. I
682
00:36:12.989 --> 00:36:15.380
think that's what it is. I really do. I think
683
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.019
most people can probably have these experiences if they want to.
684
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:21.920
You know, I get it why you wouldn't because it's,
685
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.380
you know, sometimes it's not, they're not good experiences. Sometimes,
686
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.440
sometimes they are, you know, but I think that's what
687
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:28.699
it is.
688
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.579
Yeah, very interesting.
689
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.409
I just want to switch gears for a second. I
690
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have a website and I sell products from my website
691
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to help pay the bills. And I want to play
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I'm having a big sale right now and I'm offering
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695
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of my orgone generators. And so I just want to
696
00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.639
take a real quick break for that. Then we'll come back,
697
00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:07.130
finish off with your experiences. And then I want to
698
00:37:07.170 --> 00:37:10.710
hear about some of the weirdest stuff you've heard about
699
00:37:10.789 --> 00:37:16.639
not making fun of anybody, not mistrusting anybody, but just
700
00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:20.760
some weird stuff that people have experienced and shared with
701
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.159
you on your podcast. So we'll just quickly do that
702
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and we'll be right back, everybody. Hi, guys.
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And we're back. So I live in Canada. And right now,
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the government is having a tariff war with the United States.
725
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And because of that, I can no longer sell or
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00:39:12.289 --> 00:39:16.300
ship to the USA. So I'm sorry, everybody who's in
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00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.559
the USA, but it's really I'm stuck with a lot
728
00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:23.280
of product and I need to move it. So I'm
729
00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:28.070
hoping people from other countries and especially Canada, you know,
730
00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:33.300
buy some and, and, the benefits of having them. So, yeah,
731
00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:37.179
so I'm having a big sale, 50 to 60% off
732
00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:40.880
all organ generators and all crystals.
733
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.159
Can you not walk it over to the US? Can
734
00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:46.110
you not just take it over yourself and throw it
735
00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:47.630
over the line or not?
736
00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:52.829
Nope. But what I could do is if someone gave
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00:39:52.909 --> 00:39:57.710
me a donation that covered the cost of shipping and product,
738
00:39:58.349 --> 00:40:01.590
I could send them a thank you gift. That's not
739
00:40:01.630 --> 00:40:05.699
a sale to get around it, but I'm nervous about
740
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.980
trying that. They they've made it so that we have
741
00:40:09.019 --> 00:40:12.300
to download an app and we have to declare what
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00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:17.789
we're sending. And then we have to pay, uh, before
743
00:40:17.829 --> 00:40:20.449
we even send it. And it's something like 50%. It
744
00:40:20.489 --> 00:40:22.170
just defeats the whole purpose of selling.
745
00:40:22.210 --> 00:40:23.210
That's crazy.
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00:40:23.829 --> 00:40:25.869
Anyway, I didn't mean to whine and complain about it.
747
00:40:25.929 --> 00:40:28.050
I just want to let people know about my sale
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00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:31.889
and about my organ generators. And thank you for being
749
00:40:31.929 --> 00:40:35.380
patient with me. Tommy, do you have any other personal
750
00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:38.380
experiences that you would like to share before we switch
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00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:38.579
over to.
752
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:39.699
I've got quite a few.
753
00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:41.760
Okay, well then.
754
00:40:41.780 --> 00:40:45.639
It's up to you. I've got another very strange UFO experience,
755
00:40:45.699 --> 00:40:46.420
if you want to hear that one.
756
00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:50.670
Yeah, let's hear your really strange UFO experience, and we'll
757
00:40:50.690 --> 00:40:51.869
see how much time we have left.
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00:40:52.349 --> 00:40:55.769
So this one, I was about 27 when this happened.
759
00:40:55.989 --> 00:40:59.210
So I was about 27. I'm 39 now. So it
760
00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:03.059
was 12 years ago. And we was living in a
761
00:41:03.139 --> 00:41:07.139
flat in Brentwood in the same, not far, 10 minutes
762
00:41:07.179 --> 00:41:10.900
away from when I was 14 and I saw the UFO.
763
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.969
So same kind of area. But this was quite different.
764
00:41:14.989 --> 00:41:18.670
This was different to, again, anything I've ever seen before.
765
00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:21.369
And I put it in the UFO category, but it
766
00:41:21.449 --> 00:41:25.699
might not even be that. So basically, we was on
767
00:41:25.739 --> 00:41:30.980
the top floor of four stories. And it was a
768
00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:35.059
lovely summer's day again, blue sky. And me and my
769
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.119
mother-in-law were kind of just having a conversation. And this
770
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.260
was quite cool as well, because she saw everything as well.
771
00:41:40.300 --> 00:41:43.460
So we both, to this day, talk about it. And she,
772
00:41:43.699 --> 00:41:45.519
we was just looking out the window and was talking
773
00:41:45.579 --> 00:41:50.039
about something and just, just opposite the flats is like
774
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.539
a little forested area. And we were, we were looking
775
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.280
and talking and all of a sudden these three objects
776
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.840
came out of the forest. Now this is during the day.
777
00:41:58.860 --> 00:42:00.940
I can't remember exactly what time it was, but I
778
00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:03.559
think about three, four o'clock, something like that. So it was,
779
00:42:03.980 --> 00:42:06.679
you know, just afternoon, right?
780
00:42:07.019 --> 00:42:07.219
Yeah.
781
00:42:07.300 --> 00:42:11.260
The lovely sunny day, clear sky again. Um, And these
782
00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:14.599
three objects have come out of the trees of the forest.
783
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.840
And they're just floating up, basically. But they're literally right
784
00:42:19.070 --> 00:42:21.030
in front of us. So we got a really good
785
00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:25.489
view of whatever these things are. Now, they weren't too big.
786
00:42:25.530 --> 00:42:28.070
They were like the size of a basketball, that kind
787
00:42:28.110 --> 00:42:30.389
of size. But there was three of them. And they
788
00:42:30.409 --> 00:42:34.360
were kind of set in like a triangular formation. But
789
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.769
they weren't touching. They weren't. connected even though they seem
790
00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:42.219
connected because they were kind of staying the equal distance
791
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:43.400
from each.
792
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.980
Other yeah kind of synchronized.
793
00:42:45.579 --> 00:42:49.059
Yeah but in like a triangular formation and they were
794
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:53.199
constantly changing shape but all three of them constantly changing
795
00:42:53.219 --> 00:42:55.889
they were constantly moving they were never really the same
796
00:42:55.949 --> 00:42:58.849
shape because it was like they were like uh their
797
00:42:58.889 --> 00:43:01.989
own organism whatever it was and they were like they
798
00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:05.530
were like a silvery color they were like a silvery
799
00:43:05.590 --> 00:43:08.150
color like a plasma And there was three of them.
800
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One, two, three.
801
00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:12.650
And they're constantly moving, but constantly also changing shape as
802
00:43:12.690 --> 00:43:15.949
they like spin around. And we're watching this for like
803
00:43:17.070 --> 00:43:19.260
five minutes, whatever it was. It might not have been
804
00:43:19.300 --> 00:43:21.440
that long, but it felt like we we've got a
805
00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:24.280
good look at these things. And we're like, what the
806
00:43:24.300 --> 00:43:26.219
heck are they? Are they balloons? You know, we're going
807
00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:28.920
through everything again, what they could be. And we're like,
808
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:33.099
what are they? This is just really baffling us. Anyway,
809
00:43:33.139 --> 00:43:35.489
they got so high up. They were really high up.
810
00:43:35.610 --> 00:43:37.250
And we're still we still see him from the window.
811
00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:41.670
And all of a sudden, they just went flash, flash.
812
00:43:41.769 --> 00:43:44.829
All three of them just shot off like one, two, three.
813
00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:48.050
But they kind of left like a trail behind them
814
00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:51.349
where they just shot off so quick. And we were like,
815
00:43:51.610 --> 00:43:55.349
what the heck was that? And every time we're at
816
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:58.809
family parties now or, you know, Christmas time when we
817
00:43:58.849 --> 00:44:02.010
talk about this stuff, we always bring that up. And
818
00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:04.789
I could see that even family members will be like,
819
00:44:04.809 --> 00:44:08.099
are you sure? Are you sure they wasn't balloons? And
820
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.840
we're like, I promise you, we both saw it and
821
00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:13.219
we're both like, nah, this was like nothing we'd ever
822
00:44:13.260 --> 00:44:15.880
seen before. And the way they shot off into the
823
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.340
atmosphere was not balloons. Balloons do not do that. You know,
824
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.219
if we hadn't seen them shoot off, it might be
825
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.539
a different conversation. We might have been thinking, I don't know.
826
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.780
It still was weird, whatever it was, obviously. But we
827
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.360
saw them shoot off and they were like very strange,
828
00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:34.110
like nothing I'd seen before. Again, I put that in
829
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.110
the UFO category, but I don't know what that was.
830
00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:39.269
I would put it in that category too. But, you know,
831
00:44:39.309 --> 00:44:43.139
I've done some research on the booga sphere and some
832
00:44:43.179 --> 00:44:49.679
of the other spherical things that are being seen.
833
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.769
And there's one guy, I can't remember.
834
00:44:52.429 --> 00:44:55.969
His name, unfortunately, but he's done a lot of research.
835
00:44:56.030 --> 00:45:02.630
And he says those are part of an ancient system
836
00:45:02.949 --> 00:45:06.639
that was set up thousands and thousands of years ago
837
00:45:06.699 --> 00:45:11.599
and it's actually protecting our world it's actually protecting us
838
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.679
it's a kind of a surveillance but not an intrusive
839
00:45:14.739 --> 00:45:19.630
kind of surveillance more of a protection and there's and
840
00:45:19.650 --> 00:45:24.309
they're always in threes and there's two different sizes and
841
00:45:24.329 --> 00:45:26.789
i can't remember i think the smaller ones are the
842
00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:29.389
ones that we see every once in a while they
843
00:45:29.429 --> 00:45:33.449
kind of power up and glow and um And so
844
00:45:33.469 --> 00:45:36.889
what he believes is that they're actually transmitting and then
845
00:45:37.139 --> 00:45:41.219
higher up in our atmosphere, there is also these spheres.
846
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.960
And what they do is they take that information and
847
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:50.239
then it gets transmitted actually to a subterranean. So somewhere
848
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.139
in the earth, there's like some kind of a, what
849
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.389
we would imagine as being some kind of a futuristic,
850
00:45:56.869 --> 00:46:01.780
although it's from way long time ago, um, uh, recording system,
851
00:46:01.820 --> 00:46:05.820
like a computerized system and that that's actually protecting us
852
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.239
from nefarious ETs. So I don't know if it's true
853
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.639
or not, but, um, you know, it does seem to
854
00:46:12.699 --> 00:46:16.610
make a lot of sense. And, um, so he explains
855
00:46:16.789 --> 00:46:19.969
that as, and they're always in threes and I don't know.
856
00:46:19.909 --> 00:46:22.130
If it's true or not, but it's interesting.
857
00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:25.610
Um, You know, it's really hard to know what's going
858
00:46:25.730 --> 00:46:28.789
on because there's so much censorship. I think there's more
859
00:46:28.849 --> 00:46:32.849
censorship than we could ever imagine. It's been around, like,
860
00:46:32.869 --> 00:46:35.989
you know, often we blame, you know, religions or we
861
00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:38.800
blame politics, but I think it's bigger than that. It's
862
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.820
been around for quite some time, you know, and so
863
00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:47.219
many people have seen the spheres. It's not even funny.
864
00:46:47.260 --> 00:46:47.559
It's not.
865
00:46:48.139 --> 00:46:49.230
not even debatable.
866
00:46:49.289 --> 00:46:52.170
And I think that's tied into the Foo Fighters during
867
00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:57.409
World War II. And I think there's a lot of
868
00:46:57.710 --> 00:47:04.059
overlap in these experiences, but because we're not given the
869
00:47:04.139 --> 00:47:07.480
concepts or the language to talk about it, or the
870
00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:10.260
freedom of speech to get together and talk about it,
871
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.380
we're not really always putting the pieces.
872
00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:14.860
Of the puzzle together. That's my take on it anyway.
873
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.360
But that's fascinating.
874
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.150
Yeah, and you can't unsee what you've seen, you know?
875
00:47:20.309 --> 00:47:24.710
Absolutely, absolutely. And I think when it comes to UFOs
876
00:47:24.750 --> 00:47:26.449
as well, I think there's a lot of different things
877
00:47:26.489 --> 00:47:29.710
going on. I feel like we put UFO into like
878
00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:34.429
one category. Aliens, you know, is often like the term
879
00:47:34.489 --> 00:47:36.760
and that's what we, or it's either that or it's
880
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.780
like secret technology that we have. And I'm sure it's
881
00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:42.219
a mixture of all these things. I think there's a
882
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.190
lot of, I think there's so much going on that
883
00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:46.989
we kind of put it in the same category but
884
00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:51.920
there's probably there's multiple i think reasons behind some of
885
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.059
this stuff that we're seeing i.
886
00:47:54.019 --> 00:47:56.619
Agree i mean it could be extraterrestrials it could be
887
00:47:56.659 --> 00:48:00.989
interdimensionals it could be beings from the spiritual realms it
888
00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:04.969
could be crypto terrestrials i mean it goes on and
889
00:48:05.130 --> 00:48:07.570
on and on and i think there's overlap and all
890
00:48:07.590 --> 00:48:10.429
of that too But one thing that our world does
891
00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:13.869
is keeps us really busy looking at other things, you know,
892
00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:19.010
trying to acquire material things, the latest gadgets, noticing what
893
00:48:19.070 --> 00:48:23.719
the neighbors have, you know, and of course, wars and
894
00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:27.840
conflicts and politics and religion. And, you know, there's not
895
00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:31.159
a lot of space for deep contemplation. And I think
896
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.690
we need the deep contemplation just to evolve as humans,
897
00:48:34.789 --> 00:48:39.139
develop spiritually, But also then we might start noticing some
898
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.260
of this stuff, which is a threat to the system,
899
00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:44.300
which I think is a big fat construct.
900
00:48:44.420 --> 00:48:49.889
But, you know. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it tells
901
00:48:49.929 --> 00:48:52.289
you sometimes how long I don't like seeing it because
902
00:48:52.309 --> 00:48:54.070
it makes me go, oh, man. But it tells you
903
00:48:54.110 --> 00:48:57.050
how long you've been on your cell phone sometimes. Yeah.
904
00:48:57.210 --> 00:48:59.070
And it can be like five hours a day or
905
00:48:59.130 --> 00:49:02.909
six hours a day. There's only 24 hours in the day.
906
00:49:02.929 --> 00:49:05.150
And I've spent that much time looking at my screen.
907
00:49:08.219 --> 00:49:10.300
I do not take my phone with me when I
908
00:49:10.340 --> 00:49:13.269
go to the bathroom because I'd start scrolling and I'd
909
00:49:13.309 --> 00:49:16.989
be there till my butt's numb. That's what I do.
910
00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:19.670
I'm guilty of that. And you're like, I've been in
911
00:49:19.690 --> 00:49:19.969
here forever.
912
00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:24.070
An hour yeah yeah and it goes and you know
913
00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:26.800
what else I noticed is I've been on it for
914
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:31.579
a while I have to it's almost like my brain
915
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:36.460
is is somehow hooked into the phone. I have to
916
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:42.260
literally whip my consciousness out of it and back into
917
00:49:42.340 --> 00:49:47.829
the world I'm in. And it's the strangest, strangest phenomenon.
918
00:49:48.110 --> 00:49:50.630
And it never feels good normally when you've been scrolling.
919
00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:53.250
It never feels like you don't feel complete, you know,
920
00:49:53.269 --> 00:49:56.289
when you've been scrolling for an hour. After you feel like, oh, man,
921
00:49:56.309 --> 00:49:58.690
you might have seen some cool stuff, but it's never
922
00:49:58.750 --> 00:50:00.190
normally a great feeling, you know?
923
00:50:00.989 --> 00:50:05.409
Yeah, I struggle, absolutely struggle with screen time. So, of course,
924
00:50:05.449 --> 00:50:09.250
there's like YouTube videos, which I use a lot for research.
925
00:50:09.750 --> 00:50:12.090
There is Netflix.
926
00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:14.530
And, you know, Prime Video. And then there's all the
927
00:50:14.590 --> 00:50:16.800
work I do in front of a screen for my
928
00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:22.059
podcast prep, doing the podcast post prep. And then there's
929
00:50:22.099 --> 00:50:27.300
the damn phone, right? And, you know, it's convenient as
930
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:28.760
hell and very addictive.
931
00:50:29.449 --> 00:50:32.489
That's the thing. It becomes so much of our world.
932
00:50:33.250 --> 00:50:35.869
It's like another arm now. We can't live without it.
933
00:50:36.030 --> 00:50:40.690
It's so prevalent in our lives now. We're doomed.
934
00:50:41.769 --> 00:50:44.650
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yesterday, I went
935
00:50:44.690 --> 00:50:47.449
for a walk. We've got our autumn weather here already.
936
00:50:47.809 --> 00:50:49.630
I went for a walk to a local park. I
937
00:50:49.690 --> 00:50:52.550
sat on a park bench, wasn't looking at any screens.
938
00:50:53.150 --> 00:50:57.650
noticed some squirrels and some magpies and the changing trees.
939
00:50:57.730 --> 00:51:00.030
And I was just content to sit there. I sat
940
00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:05.639
there probably for a whole hour. And, you know, I really,
941
00:51:05.699 --> 00:51:09.219
really enjoyed it. And so I think my point is
942
00:51:09.699 --> 00:51:13.380
that if we forego some of the screen time and
943
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.610
put ourselves back in the natural world, we actually really
944
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.389
enjoy it. Then we remember what we've been missing.
945
00:51:20.409 --> 00:51:21.750
Absolutely.
946
00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:27.110
Really serve two masters. Tommy, the time's been going by really,
947
00:51:27.150 --> 00:51:31.269
really quickly. We've got about 10 minutes left. I'm wondering
948
00:51:31.389 --> 00:51:35.010
if you want to just briefly touch on one or
949
00:51:35.070 --> 00:51:38.820
maybe two of the weirdest experiences you ever heard of
950
00:51:39.050 --> 00:51:41.420
while doing your podcast. I'd love to hear that.
951
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:43.880
There's been a few. There's been a few, I have
952
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:48.119
to say. Normally, I love all the conversations. I love
953
00:51:48.179 --> 00:51:51.420
all the aspects of the paranormal. I really love cryptid stories.
954
00:51:51.579 --> 00:51:55.409
I really love Bigfoot stories, especially. I love Bigfoot. So
955
00:51:55.449 --> 00:51:58.030
I've had a lot of cool people sharing Bigfoot encounters
956
00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:00.409
and I absolutely love that. You know, whether it's like
957
00:52:00.449 --> 00:52:03.210
a two second glimpse of this thing or whatever it is,
958
00:52:03.650 --> 00:52:08.449
blows my mind. There's been a few, there's been a
959
00:52:08.489 --> 00:52:13.119
few times where I've been really freaked out. One is because,
960
00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:15.860
so I can tell you, this wasn't so much a
961
00:52:15.900 --> 00:52:19.530
guest experience, but this kind of happened recently. after doing
962
00:52:19.550 --> 00:52:21.489
a recording and it was quite weird. Do you want
963
00:52:21.510 --> 00:52:24.510
me to share that? So, so, so basically I'd, I'd
964
00:52:24.550 --> 00:52:27.269
been talking to this lady, really nice lady, you know, she'd,
965
00:52:27.389 --> 00:52:30.210
she'd dealt with, um, a lot of hauntings and she'd
966
00:52:30.230 --> 00:52:33.960
had quite, she'd had some quite scary encounters with entities
967
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.980
in her home and stuff like that. So we'd had
968
00:52:36.059 --> 00:52:40.039
quite a scary, what she was telling me was quite scary. Um,
969
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.880
but she, a lovely lady, you know, and when we'd
970
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.659
finished the conversation and, um, So what I do is
971
00:52:46.699 --> 00:52:50.239
I normally record upstairs in my studio upstairs and I
972
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.079
normally record at like, so it's normally around one o'clock
973
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.119
in the morning UK time. So it's like 8pm Eastern
974
00:52:57.139 --> 00:52:59.440
in the US. Most of my guests are normally in
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00:52:59.460 --> 00:53:03.530
the US. So that's perfect normally. So I'm normally recording
976
00:53:03.570 --> 00:53:06.710
around that time. So during, during the night, so the
977
00:53:06.750 --> 00:53:11.489
family's asleep, the house is quiet. Everything's quiet around me. Um,
978
00:53:11.809 --> 00:53:13.570
but I always get a little bit scared after. So
979
00:53:13.610 --> 00:53:17.090
I always leave the lights on. I sound like a
980
00:53:17.130 --> 00:53:22.050
wimp here, but I always leave the lights on downstairs.
981
00:53:22.630 --> 00:53:25.050
So when I finish and I go downstairs, I'm going
982
00:53:25.090 --> 00:53:28.320
down to a fully lit house, right? So I just
983
00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:31.090
finished this interview with this lady. Quite a scary conversation.
984
00:53:31.409 --> 00:53:34.599
She's telling me some scary stuff. And after we'd finished,
985
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.400
she kind of made a joke and she went, oh,
986
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.320
they might come over and see you now, right? And
987
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.159
I was like, oh, no, keep them with you. It's
988
00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:45.300
absolutely fine. don't want them. It's okay. But thank you.
989
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.280
I sort of made a joke and it was fine.
990
00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.760
And no, she didn't mean it or anything like that.
991
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:54.099
But when, so when I'd finished and I'd packed up
992
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.340
and everything like that, and I went downstairs, all my
993
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.760
lights were off downstairs. Right. And I was like, this
994
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.119
is weird because if my wife wakes up during the night,
995
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.840
she knows, she knows she doesn't touch anything. She, she
996
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.159
would leave it. She doesn't go downstairs and turn lights off.
997
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.420
You know, the kids wouldn't do it. If they, if
998
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.679
they got up, they wouldn't turn lights off. So I
999
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.679
thought that was strange. And I've gone downstairs and I've
1000
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.840
turned all my lights on. And I was like, oh,
1001
00:54:18.940 --> 00:54:22.440
that's weird. I went in my front room, went back
1002
00:54:22.500 --> 00:54:24.559
into my kitchen, the light was off again. And I
1003
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.260
was like, oh, no. And I turned the light on.
1004
00:54:27.659 --> 00:54:30.219
I said a prayer out loud. I was like, no, please,
1005
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.670
if anything's here, please leave. But it was more, it
1006
00:54:36.769 --> 00:54:39.150
really scared me. I was like, that is, you know,
1007
00:54:39.349 --> 00:54:42.070
it felt like, I don't know. I don't know what
1008
00:54:42.110 --> 00:54:44.969
it was, but it was very strange. So that was
1009
00:54:45.030 --> 00:54:49.489
straight after an interview. But there's been so many wild stories.
1010
00:54:50.489 --> 00:54:52.730
I also find the stories, you know, people talk about
1011
00:54:52.769 --> 00:54:54.449
like haunted dolls and things like that.
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00:54:55.010 --> 00:54:55.469
Yeah.
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00:54:55.849 --> 00:54:58.280
I mean, I would never want each their own, but
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00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.090
I don't want, I wouldn't want a haunted doll in
1015
00:55:00.110 --> 00:55:02.659
my house, to be honest. That's not for me. I
1016
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.559
wouldn't have any dolls in my house that are haunted.
1017
00:55:05.059 --> 00:55:07.280
Normal dolls. My daughters have got normal dolls and they
1018
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.280
can be quite freaky. Um, but I had the, the
1019
00:55:10.460 --> 00:55:14.320
only brothers on my podcast, two cool dudes. They're like
1020
00:55:14.460 --> 00:55:17.449
film filmmakers and they, they, they do, they used to
1021
00:55:17.489 --> 00:55:20.349
do a lot of paranormal investigations and they also used
1022
00:55:20.389 --> 00:55:23.590
to like do Bigfoot investigations as well. So we're talking
1023
00:55:23.630 --> 00:55:25.929
about that kind of stuff, but they, they had an
1024
00:55:25.989 --> 00:55:29.690
experience where they went to like a thrift store and
1025
00:55:29.710 --> 00:55:33.630
they found this old clown and they said, Oh, this
1026
00:55:33.690 --> 00:55:37.170
clown is so spooky and so cool. Now let's buy it.
1027
00:55:37.269 --> 00:55:40.119
And I'm like, Oh, You know, I wouldn't do that anyway,
1028
00:55:40.179 --> 00:55:42.920
but they did. They bought this clown and they brought
1029
00:55:42.980 --> 00:55:46.260
it home. And they said weird things started happening when
1030
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.360
this clown was, since they bought this clown home, right?
1031
00:55:49.380 --> 00:55:53.179
They started hearing things, weird things started happening. And then
1032
00:55:53.380 --> 00:55:56.429
there was this big experience where Jesse, one of the
1033
00:55:56.449 --> 00:55:59.150
brothers was home alone one night. And I think he
1034
00:55:59.170 --> 00:56:01.329
was like playing a game or watching TV or something.
1035
00:56:01.829 --> 00:56:04.130
And he started hearing this voice, like shouting at him.
1036
00:56:04.969 --> 00:56:08.869
I really scared him, obviously. And he just knew it
1037
00:56:08.909 --> 00:56:12.349
was this clown. So he said he picked this clown
1038
00:56:12.449 --> 00:56:15.469
up and it was like he could feel it, like
1039
00:56:15.750 --> 00:56:19.289
the energy from it, he's saying. And it sounds terrifying.
1040
00:56:19.309 --> 00:56:22.409
Clowns are quite scary anyway, I think. But he said
1041
00:56:22.429 --> 00:56:24.769
he's thrown this in the back of his truck and
1042
00:56:24.809 --> 00:56:28.309
he drove off. And I think as he was driving off,
1043
00:56:28.349 --> 00:56:30.429
he was saying as well, he could still hear the
1044
00:56:30.469 --> 00:56:32.650
voice of this thing like shouting at him and stuff.
1045
00:56:32.750 --> 00:56:35.449
And he's just got rid of this clown. He said
1046
00:56:35.469 --> 00:56:37.869
he just threw it into a nearby forest or something.
1047
00:56:38.619 --> 00:56:43.119
And I was like, that sounds terrifying, man. Um, that,
1048
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:44.900
that was weird. And what was weird about that one
1049
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:46.989
as well is as they were telling me, cause I
1050
00:56:47.030 --> 00:56:48.510
hear a lot of scary, like you do. I hear
1051
00:56:48.530 --> 00:56:53.610
a lot of strange, scary, interesting experiences, but you kind
1052
00:56:53.650 --> 00:56:56.110
of not get used to it, but you're, you know,
1053
00:56:56.170 --> 00:56:58.150
I don't get scared every time I hear these things now,
1054
00:56:58.269 --> 00:57:01.400
but for whatever reason, while they were telling me that
1055
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:05.780
I was like, you know, looking around my room and
1056
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.969
something fell down while we was recording it. And, weird
1057
00:57:09.750 --> 00:57:12.949
so that that was a weird one um i'm trying
1058
00:57:12.969 --> 00:57:16.070
to think of other ones that stand out there's loads
1059
00:57:16.130 --> 00:57:19.409
there's been loads of of very strange story i was
1060
00:57:19.449 --> 00:57:21.730
talking to a girl called emily once really nice girl
1061
00:57:22.409 --> 00:57:25.250
and she was experiencing quite a lot of paranormal activity
1062
00:57:25.329 --> 00:57:28.949
in her home and she described being in bed one
1063
00:57:29.010 --> 00:57:31.679
night and it's the way she did it she kind
1064
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:33.539
of showed me she kind of acted out what it
1065
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.739
looked like she said this this girl walked into her
1066
00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:43.960
room but she was like walking backwards into her room.
1067
00:57:44.539 --> 00:57:46.739
And she said, and she kind of acted out what
1068
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.780
she saw. And I don't know, man, it just freaked
1069
00:57:49.820 --> 00:57:51.659
me out so much. She kind of said this thing
1070
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.019
has like long hair and it was like dangling down.
1071
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:56.449
All of a sudden it just turned and looked at her.
1072
00:57:57.050 --> 00:58:01.090
And just the way she did it, I was like, oh, man.
1073
00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:04.050
So that was a weird one. That was a freaky one.
1074
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.320
There's been so many. There's been so many strange.
1075
00:58:07.460 --> 00:58:08.019
I'm sure.
1076
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:08.820
But I love it.
1077
00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:11.559
Yeah, yeah, me too.
1078
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.340
You know, I'm going to be coming on your show
1079
00:58:14.429 --> 00:58:19.090
again in the near future. Yes. Remind me because I'm
1080
00:58:19.110 --> 00:58:22.969
not 100% sure. Well, I am kind of sure, but
1081
00:58:23.489 --> 00:58:26.610
I hate– there's some things I have not talked about
1082
00:58:26.730 --> 00:58:31.030
publicly yet because I'm concerned that family members might see
1083
00:58:31.130 --> 00:58:34.869
it and– It might cause some problems, but I think
1084
00:58:34.909 --> 00:58:39.820
it's probably time. So I have a weird experience where
1085
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.090
my mother was able, I don't know how she did it,
1086
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.440
but she could do it at will. Her face would
1087
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.980
change into a hideous demon. She gave me two dolls
1088
00:58:52.099 --> 00:58:54.940
when I was young. And you know what? I'm going
1089
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.019
to confess, I never got rid of them until last
1090
00:58:58.099 --> 00:59:00.019
year because I couldn't.
1091
00:59:00.460 --> 00:59:01.039
I couldn't.
1092
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.360
And there's some other weird stuff. And so I'll tell
1093
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.000
you about it when I come on your show.
1094
00:59:07.099 --> 00:59:09.360
Oh, I'm looking forward to that.
1095
00:59:10.369 --> 00:59:15.630
But I've never actually talked about it before. You know,
1096
00:59:15.650 --> 00:59:18.050
my mom and dad are dead now. And, you know,
1097
00:59:18.090 --> 00:59:21.280
you kind of feel like you can't talk, say bad
1098
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:23.539
things about the dead or something like that.
1099
00:59:23.659 --> 00:59:24.059
I don't know.
1100
00:59:24.139 --> 00:59:26.159
Or you want to remember them in their best light.
1101
00:59:27.150 --> 00:59:32.179
But they both had what I would consider symptoms of
1102
00:59:32.380 --> 00:59:37.300
some demon attachment also. And they were completely unaware of it.
1103
00:59:37.900 --> 00:59:43.099
And then when my dad passed, the attachment jumped to
1104
00:59:43.139 --> 00:59:44.739
my youngest brother.
1105
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:47.139
And he doesn't know it. And I haven't told him.
1106
00:59:47.570 --> 00:59:51.210
So I got more than.
1107
00:59:50.369 --> 00:59:52.789
One younger brother. So no one's going to really know
1108
00:59:52.869 --> 00:59:55.170
who this is. And we have different names and stuff.
1109
00:59:55.789 --> 01:00:00.250
But um you know growing up and seeing these things
1110
01:00:00.349 --> 01:00:03.989
and and then I also had a vision when I
1111
01:00:04.030 --> 01:00:07.429
was like two years old anyway I won't talk about
1112
01:00:07.469 --> 01:00:09.920
it now but when I come on your show.
1113
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.960
Tommy I'm looking forward to this.
1114
01:00:11.900 --> 01:00:15.699
Stuff but it's really traumatic so I'm hoping I will
1115
01:00:15.739 --> 01:00:19.039
be brave and be able to talk about it honestly
1116
01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:24.150
and hopefully uh probably my family wouldn't watch it but Anyway,
1117
01:00:24.190 --> 01:00:26.300
I think you might enjoy some of it. But we're
1118
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.280
running out of time, Tommy. So tell people where they
1119
01:00:29.300 --> 01:00:31.599
can find you, what you're up to. Tell them about
1120
01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:37.619
your podcast. Guys, go and check out Tommy's channel. Subscribe
1121
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.980
to his channel and go into the playlists and into
1122
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:47.570
the video history and watch his podcast. You'll find it very,
1123
01:00:48.010 --> 01:00:52.280
not just enlightening, but also very entertaining. And, Tommy, you're
1124
01:00:52.300 --> 01:00:56.659
a wonderful host. You really have a gift at making
1125
01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:59.960
your guests feel comfortable and relaxed so we can be
1126
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:03.260
honest and open. So, yeah, I'll just turn it over
1127
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:06.150
to you. And then anything you have for a message
1128
01:01:06.289 --> 01:01:08.909
that you may or may not have for the audience
1129
01:01:09.130 --> 01:01:11.110
for closing out, that'd be awesome, too.
1130
01:01:11.130 --> 01:01:13.059
And thank you so much for being here. Thank you.
1131
01:01:13.389 --> 01:01:15.829
Thank you so much. I really do appreciate that. Thank
1132
01:01:15.869 --> 01:01:18.570
you so much. um and i can't wait to get
1133
01:01:18.590 --> 01:01:20.420
you back on i'm so excited to get you back
1134
01:01:20.539 --> 01:01:23.320
on we've got we've had two you've had two episodes
1135
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.099
already on let's get freaky and they're both been fantastic
1136
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.019
and i can't wait for the next one thank you
1137
01:01:29.059 --> 01:01:32.309
so much um we are wherever you find your podcast
1138
01:01:32.349 --> 01:01:36.489
let's get freaky apple podcast spotify amazon music also on
1139
01:01:36.550 --> 01:01:38.349
youtube as well you can watch the video some of
1140
01:01:38.369 --> 01:01:40.690
the episodes there as well try and try and get
1141
01:01:40.769 --> 01:01:44.230
all of them on youtube now as well um But yeah,
1142
01:01:44.409 --> 01:01:48.909
I just love having these conversations. I love hearing people's experiences.
1143
01:01:49.190 --> 01:01:51.530
As you say, it's not always easy talking about this stuff.
1144
01:01:52.070 --> 01:01:55.369
So I really appreciate anyone that's willing to come on
1145
01:01:55.389 --> 01:01:59.010
and share their experiences. Let's Get Freaky, like your show,
1146
01:01:59.050 --> 01:02:02.130
is a safe place to talk about experiences. I think
1147
01:02:02.170 --> 01:02:05.550
that's important. You're not going to be judged. We've all
1148
01:02:05.610 --> 01:02:08.849
had some wild experiences that we can't explain sometimes and
1149
01:02:09.349 --> 01:02:11.789
it feels so liberating to be able to share it
1150
01:02:11.949 --> 01:02:15.940
and to know that other people have experienced it, very
1151
01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:19.079
similar stuff. And this stuff is actually not as strange
1152
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.610
as you think it is. This world is a lot
1153
01:02:21.659 --> 01:02:25.349
more spiritual and supernatural than the powers that be tell
1154
01:02:25.369 --> 01:02:29.530
you it is. So yeah, like your show, everyone's welcome
1155
01:02:29.570 --> 01:02:31.949
to come and share their experiences.
1156
01:02:32.849 --> 01:02:34.739
Wonderful. And thank you so much.
1157
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:38.320
And everybody, the links are below in the description. And
1158
01:02:38.380 --> 01:02:41.079
I want to thank everybody for joining us. This is
1159
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:44.679
going to be going live or not live, I'm sorry,
1160
01:02:45.570 --> 01:02:49.710
premiering on YouTube and Rumble and a whole bunch of
1161
01:02:49.730 --> 01:02:55.010
other platforms on September 30th, which is just next Wednesday.
1162
01:02:55.750 --> 01:02:59.780
You won't have to wait too long to see it. And, Tommy,
1163
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.179
I'll get back to you, too, with some dates to
1164
01:03:02.219 --> 01:03:04.960
see when I can come back and see you on
1165
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:05.320
your show.
1166
01:03:05.340 --> 01:03:05.760
Let's do it soon.
1167
01:03:06.219 --> 01:03:06.320
Soon.
1168
01:03:06.340 --> 01:03:07.000
We've got to do this.
1169
01:03:07.889 --> 01:03:09.449
Okay, let's do it soon.
1170
01:03:09.969 --> 01:03:14.349
And on that happy note, just much love and best
1171
01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:17.809
wishes to everybody. Love you all so much. Thank you
1172
01:03:17.949 --> 01:03:22.090
so much for being here. Thank you, Tommy, again. Take care, everybody,
1173
01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:23.949
and we'll see you next time.
1174
01:03:24.429 --> 01:03:28.119
Bye-bye. Thank you for.
1175
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.840
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01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:35.139
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Until next time, keep up the good work.