ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Bethany Brady Spalding joins Jen and Patrick to explore the story of the daughters of Zelophehad in Numbers 27 and what it teaches about peaceful problem-solving, courageous advocacy, and collaborative leadership. The conversation centers on how asking a thoughtful question, offering a solution, and trusting the process can help change systems without defaulting to anger or conflict.
Timestamps
3:52 - Bethany’s definition of peace: progress toward God’s vision
5:26 - Discovering overlooked stories of women in scripture
8:49 - The daughters of Zelophehad and their inheritance claim
12:45 - Moses as a model for listening and responsive leadership
15:07 - Finding possibility during seasons of change
17:15 - Peaceful advocacy and creating space for women’s voices
20:11 - Why collaboration strengthens peacemaking
23:31 - Building community coalitions through the Health Access Project
26:27 - Diane Nash and the power of a moral question
29:10 - Pairing hard questions with practical possibilities
33:35 - Navigating tension between preserving and changing systems
39:12 - Why Bethany approaches injustice one issue at a time
43:14 - Managing fear when speaking to power
45:00 - Bethany’s pathway to finding peace
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org
