Alex Wright Reveals Untold Stories from WCW Nitro’s Debut & Wrestling Triple H

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Channel, let yourself Seesty, Channel Time and thirty.
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History Chattel.
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Welcome back to the Wrestling History Channel. I'm Steve Fallen.
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On today's edition, I'm going to give you a classic
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interview with one of your favorite wrestlers. Enjoy on today's edition,
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I'm talking to Dos wonder Kid.
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It's Alex right from w CW. How are you doing today?
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Very good, Steve? How about you?
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I am doing amazing. But also I did a little
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math before we started this, and today I really want
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to dive into the first WCW Nitro, which is coming up.
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On twenty nine years.
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Ago, old old.
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Talk about those days. Really enjoyed.
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I enjoyed it, I know because the previous when I
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talked to you before, we talked about, you know, every
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little bit in point that people bring up about your career.
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But really diving into one specific date and time and
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month for you is interesting because what were your thoughts
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about heading into this WCW Nitro, Because this is the
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first time that Nitro is going to go head to head,
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you know with mod Night Raw. Now this week Raw
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is preempted when Nitro airs, but obviously this is a
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kind of like a gunshot you're like, we're coming for you.
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And how did WCW feel about this?
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Well, we were all very excited about that, you know,
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going head to head with Raw.
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It was a big deal. Everybody was looking forward to it.
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And I think it was in Minneapolis, right, first time,
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all of America exactly, yeah, exactly, I've been there, and.
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Yeah, everybody wanted to be on that show.
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Sadly, I think I didn't have a spot at the
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first show, but of course I was watching it. I
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was backstage, and it was incredible. Yeah, it was the
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beginning of a really great era and wrestling.
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What was the backstage atmosphere like though, because again, arenas
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are a common thing professional wrestling.
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It's the Mall of America, some reality tickets.
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You can just get on the escalator and go up
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and look down and watch wrestling for free. But what
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was the backstage atmosphere like? Thinking that we're going to
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be at the Mall of America, are you wondering like,
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is this a good idea a bad idea?
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No? Actually we thought that it was a very good
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idea because it was a special place. You know, it
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created attention and you know for all the viewers which
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don't know, but there's actually a roller coaster in that mall,
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you know, you can drive and stuff. I mean, it's
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huge mall and it's very impressive being there, so it's
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really a standout point to have a show there.
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So everybody was anyway excited just because we have a
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live show.
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It was one hour, and everybody knew whether it was
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going to be a great success or you know, we
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are all finished.
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So but apparently we did good and they came up
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with two hours life and yeah, it was really great.
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Yeah.
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And when Lex Luger showed up unannounced on Nitro, this
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is the first time he was on WWF television. Just
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a few weeks before that he was at a house
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show over the weekend. Now he's on Nitro. What was
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your reaction backstage?
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Well, all the guys popped, you know, because we didn't
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know about it. Of course it was a secret.
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And even better was the crowd reaction, you know, I mean,
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the crowd knew something very special is going on this evening.
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You know, that's that's we're writing history at that moment
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because WCW, you know, challenges ww and but yeah, it
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was great.
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It was one of the mo craziest moments because over
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the past to nine years they have played that clip
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over and over and over again of Lex Lugrian, some
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silky like pirate looking type shirt walking out unannounced, and
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this became, I guess a calling card for WCW. Did
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you feel like at one point while you were there,
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it suddenly became the WWF show because anybody they kept
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bringing in, They're like, oh, they're free, let's bring them in.
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Match him in, Hulk Cogan, Lex Luger, Irs million of
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the man like it keeps.
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The list goes on and on and on and on.
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At what point, with you being, I guess not an
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original WCW wrestler.
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But you were there before the era of bringing in
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WWF wrestlers, Like, what was your thought on that?
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Well, if you look at the product overall, then of
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course was a good idea to bring on in all
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those stars because they, you know, had a lot of
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fan base. And of course it was like a statement
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which WCW did. They said, Hey, listen, we're top dog. Now,
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we have the money, we have everything, we have the
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better show. That's why everybody and the big stars wanted
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to work for us, you know. So on that hand,
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it was actually good because it draw a lot of attention.
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You know, we took a lot of w W fans
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to w CW. But for us guys, like you said before, I.
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Mean I was a young guy.
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You know, we got lost in the shuffle there somewhere,
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you know, because the focus was on all the old stars,
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and the major problem from w CW, in my opinion,
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was always that they weren't able to build their own stores.
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They just built a few stores like Goldberg.
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And the Giant, you know, but that's it most of
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of course, staying and joining bad. I mean, they were
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huge stars, but if you compare it to WWE, I
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mean they put.
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Out star star star stars.
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So you know that made that was a problem for
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WCW because we were always depending on on all their
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guys and they didn't have that look in the future
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that some days those older guys they can perform like
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in the when they were young. Plus some of them
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are retired, so you need to build up young stars,
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and that's what was missing in the WCW.
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I agreed.
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You know, Vince mcman when he went around and bought
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all the territories and took their top stars, say like
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan or a million dollar man.
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He was.
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He was taking people who were already created, bringing them over,
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giving them kind of like a new gimmick, and then
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establishing WCW did the opposite.
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They were like, we're gonna bring you in and you're
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gonna be exactly who you were.
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And then when we get we get a lawsuit towards us,
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like I R S Erwin Scheistcheer, Mike Rotundo.
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He came in as mister you know VK.
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Wall Street like a little a little wink on I
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R S type of character. Plus you're making fun of
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Vincic Man using VK as your initials. So it's like, well,
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but again, can't blame the success because it was successful
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for so many years.
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So for the product overall was good, you know.
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And since the characters or the gimmicks were very similar
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to the w W characters, it meant that the defense
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weren't that confused.
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You know, they just could.
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Switch channels out there's a million dollars or whatever, There's
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Metro Man and stuff like that. So I was good
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for the product and for WCW. But for the younger guys.
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No, I wouldn't think so I remember them bringing the
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Big Boss Man and call him just boss Man, and
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then people, I think the WWF was like we're sending
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you a lawsuit, like like you can't do that. Then
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he was the Guardian. Then he went back to his
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old name, Big Bubba Rogers. And when you see that
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name on a billing, if you see it on a post,
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you're like, who the hell is that because you know
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him as the Big boss Man. You know, Hulk Kogan,
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a Machia Man got to keep their name. But yeah,
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I always felt it was strange because as WSW would
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go on, you know, you had Goldberg and you had
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other characters, but in reality, it's like you kept buying
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more people from other companies. Ultimate Warrior came in from
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you know, he was in four years, Mike Awesome from
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E c W. It's like they just kept buying up
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people from other places instead of being.
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Like, you know, we have a power plant and we
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could use those those.
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People a lot of great talents in the power plant.
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Very young and hungry guys. I mean, they could have
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brought a lot of stuff to the product also, you know.
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But yeah they did.
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They did later on, like when you were Berlin and
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they had you know, Sean O'Hair, Mark Jindrak and Mike
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Sanders and they had uh natural born thrillers. So they
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started bringing in people, but it might have been too late.
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Yeah, it definitely was too late.
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Yeah, from your perspective, though, how did Eric Bischoff pitch
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Nitro to the roster? Like is there a sit down meeting?
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Is there a memo or like, Hey, everybody, we're gonna
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do this. We're gonna go head ahead with WWF as
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some people rolling their eyes going like what are you thinking?
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You?
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What are you gonna do? Like was there a meeting
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about this?
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Well, it's a really long time.
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Ago, twenty nine years.
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Yeah, there were rumors beforehand and then so one night
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at the before the show, we had a.
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Big sit down everybody, big meeting and he explained his
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ideas and stuff like that. Yeah, everybody was excited actually
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at that moment because that meant we are expanding, we
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you know, getting more attention and the Yeah, like I said,
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the whole locker room under Eric Bushoff in those beginning
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years where I was, there was really a good, good
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atmosphere and they're all motivated and they all wanted to
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work and give their best, And that was actually a
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how should I say at a present? How you say
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if you did something good and you get something what's the.
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Word in English if you do something and you get
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something good?
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I don't know. Not karma, I guess, No, not a fail.
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I mean like if you work hard for the boss
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and he gives something extra because.
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You work hard, like a bonus.
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It's like a bonus to us. Yeah, we thought we
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were all looking at it great. Now you know, did not?
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They invest more?
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It's live TV and you know, made us even much
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bigger stars than you know, and another platform, you know,
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airtime is it's very important for for wrestlers. You know,
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the more the more airtime you get, the more fame
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you get, or the more money you get or you
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sell more merchandise or whatever.
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So actually everybody was looking forward to.
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And then what were your thoughts because before this you
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had Saturday Nights events, you had six oh five on TBS,
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and that was ww's big staple. Those were pre taped,
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those weren't not live unless you did a Clash of
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the Champions. You're going live now week every week, not
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just you know, one week like RAW would do. You're
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going every well, every week for you as a performer,
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Is it easier for you to be live because you know,
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if you know you need to be perfect and crisp
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or being taped, you're like, well if I screw up that,
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we can fix that.
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Well, actually we did go live beforehand. Also, we did
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have Sunday Live. We did that a few times before.
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Maybe I was like a trial, I don't know. Of
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course we did pay per views.
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Well yeah, pay per views. I'm more like a weekly show.
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But yeah, yeah, but what did they were live?
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So we could We're kind of used to working live
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close if you do a lot of house shows, which
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we did at that time. I mean I was on
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the road for in thirty days in a month, I
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was like twenty five twenty six days gone.
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We're working.
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Yeah, so everybody from us had a lot of experience
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working live. Basically, the difference was live TV, you know.
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And but I don't think.
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It didn't bother me, you know, because I always wanted
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to be crisp and do good job in the ring,
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and I think everybody else will just thought it the
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same way. You know that they were all because everybody
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in the in the in at that level and the
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business you know, they're pros and they know when they
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step in the ring they have to perform because if
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they don't perform, they're going to be follow us.
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Either they lose their job, or.
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They make less money or you know, the fan base
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you know, gets smaller or whatever. You know, So everybody
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I wanted to work out anyway, but that was a
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bonus and it motivated even more. You know.
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Now, what were your thoughts on Nitro eventually giving away
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the results of Monday Night Raw I've on TV right
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before Raw went live, Nitro would give away the results, Like,
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what were you thinking? He thought, well, that's dirty play,
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but hey, we're in it's kind of a war or man,
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I don't know.
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I don't know if you do that provocation to Vince,
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you know.
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You can't do that.
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Yeah, you know, it's but I don't think it made that.
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Much of a difference, you know, I think it don't
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take sense, not really, you know. I think.
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What what made the difference is that the people talked
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more about it, because then then it started, you know,
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w c W war against w WE because of such things.
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You know, that's where it's like a yeah, like storyline
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in some way, you know, and.
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That's which created a.
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Lot of talk, you know, a lot of rumors, a
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lot of stuff, you know, And on that hand it
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was good, but business wise it wasn't necessary.
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But you know, vincient man, he did a lot of
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stuff also.
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So there's no good and bad guy.
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It's just business, you know.
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Yeah, there was a lot of funny perspective over the years,
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for a long time, for at least twenty of the
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twenty nine years we're talking about. Is maybe there is,
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Like Vince was like.
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Well, it's unfair and they're doing this to me. I'm
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just a family owned company and I'm a good guy. Really, really,
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you didn't put out all the territories by buying up
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their top talent first, then coming back around to buy
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the business after they've been deluded of all talent and
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have no more money and no more collateral nowhere to
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fight you.
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Well, that that happened a few years ago all over
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in Europolso they.
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Bought with that XTUK right, Well.
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Yeah, they just bought all the talents. There was no
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no talent anymore, you know. So it was hard for
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the companies the DC.
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You know, like like Gunther and Pete Dunn and people
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like that.
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Like Gunther and Pete Dunn and Tyler Bate and Trent
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and seven and all those guys.
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Exactly, all those guys, you know. So yeah, but that's
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the business. I mean.
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I mean, I run my own promotion also in European
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championsh Wrestling, and I'm always aware of the fact that
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I'm just a small small wheel, you know.
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So that's the big company.
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And of course guys which get the chance to work
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for a big company, they leave.
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That's just normal, that's life. You have to expect that.
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So I'm not mad at that stuff or whatever. It's
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just how business works.
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Well, because I think I remember even your story you
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told me where was you did have a contract with
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a company what in Germany and to get out of
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that you had to, like I think it was like
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you had to squirre them get to get out of
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that deal to come to America to work for deb CD.
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Well, they were very understanding, you know, and they had
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a very good relationship to the TWA office because of
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my dad. No, I mean he were many many, many
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many years for them, So that wasn't there a problem.
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They were very understanding.
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But yeah, like I said, it's a big company. And
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of course, actually I'm happy for everybody would make it
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to the top, you know.
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I mean I have a lot of students of mine.
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They were for my company, and I get him in
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other companies, and if they have a chance for the
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big companies, I'm just happy and proud for them, you.
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Know, because you, if I'm correct, you trained Geevanni Vinci right, yes, awesome,
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And then unfortunately for him, where they gave him some
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new gimmick and everything was gonna honky dory, he lost
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his first match, and then everyone thought it was the storyline,
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and then about a month later.
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He was laid off.
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And so you look at that stuff and you go, well,
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he's he had the opportunity, but did.
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He He he was always a company man. I mean
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he's a really hard working guy.
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He's always a company He was always very loyal and
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reliable work in my company and also in WB and
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in my opinion, they just didn't use him the correct way.
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I mean, he's an unbelievable talent. I mean he had
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he had in Europe unbelievable matches. That's why he was
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so popular over here, and they just missed out on
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him not using his talent. They just missed it, you know,
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because I mean, if you think about the European market,
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he could have been such big draw for the European
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Marcup market. And last time they had that Berlin that
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show in Berlin TV show, they didn't even put him.
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On the card.
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So you know, I mean that's not very business smart,
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I would say, but who knows.
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You know, I've been in the business so long, and
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I don't know.
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I think some other stuff played into you know, like
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you know, backstage politics and stuff. But on my hand,
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I can say five and is a real good guy
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and he just wants to have good matches.
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He's not into backstage politics or anything like that. So
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I don't know. Maybe it's just jealousy or whatever is it?
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As you were WW with sharks like Hogan and Nash
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and Hall might have been good people.
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But also how do you stay on top?
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Well, unfortunately, to stay on top, you have to push
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down the people who have potential to grow and go
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up higher. And so you're possibly Giovanna Vinci, He's part
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he was part of Imperium with Gunther and Ludwig.
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Well, how do you get these two to be more popular?
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Well, I guess you gotta chop down one tree to
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let the other ones grow.
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Yeah, who knows, you know.
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I mean it's just sad, But I'm sure he will
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make his way in some other companies.
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I just can recommend him.
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He's a great worker, right, and so many great wrestler
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as recently a few months back, we're laid off and
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some people were just shocked at.
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Some of these announcements.
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And some are like, okay, I understand, and at the
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times every people are like what how has this even possible?
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I just, in my opinion, actually is good. He was
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released because he was such a good company man that
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he never would give his notice to them, so stayed
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at stayed in state, and now they released him. And
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now he's free, and can you know, look to other
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companies and you know, make his mark over there.
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True great freshens up the indie market as well the
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all your company and other companies around, where suddenly you
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have sixteen wrestles all laid out from the WWE. Well,
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those sixteen wrestlers can go off and end up in
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different places. Suddenly more tickets are purchased because they want
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to see that person they saw on Raw or smack Down.
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And now they've created a new following because of their
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original following, at least.
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From the w WFS perspective.
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But for E sorry, when you have about wsw my
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brain goes into f all the time, all the time.
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I did too many podcasts.
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But to mey wrestler, as we talked about the past,
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but was there ever discussion for you to be on
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the Nitro broadcast the first one of them all of
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America because there is a dark match before the actual broadcast,
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but you're not on it.
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It's the American males, Buff Bagel and Scotti Riggs.
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Kind recall, No, but I was on anything as on
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the second one.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're you're on
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the you're all all of the shows, but this one
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it's it's you're just not on there. Yeah, And that
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interesting because yeah, I'm wondering, did you ever hear of
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discussed matches or last minute changes that occurred, because again,
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your backstage like who's backstage and the whole roster is there.
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That's that's a long time ago, you know, just because
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it was Nitro that the backstage stress was just the
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same as any other paper view or whatever we did.
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So it wasn't that big of a difference. At least
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I didn't notice that. You know, it was the same
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old you know, you had the matches, you had, the promos,
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you had, it's all, you know, it was just life.
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That was the only difference.
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You know.
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Interesting now looking looking back, though, do you think Nitro
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was the beginning of like the creative revolution, the revolution
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of professional wrestling in general, because suddenly a format was
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created and people stuck to it.
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Revolution that's a strong word because it means everything else
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what was beforehand doesn't apply anymore.
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Like revolution is something you really changed. And I don't
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think WCW invented the wheel.
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You know, it was just the live show, which w
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W did many many years beforehand. And but we showed
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that WCW is actually able to put on a show
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which is as good as Raw.
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Or even better.
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So I think that opened the eyes to a lot
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of fans that there's something else out there instead of
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just WB.
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But I wouldn't think it's a revolution.
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The only reason I use that word is because of
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the way it was presented. Because Raw was only rot
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live once a week, Nitro went live every week. Nitro
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gave away results to other programs and Nitro suddenly was
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doing like the nWo became this gang fighting in the backstage.
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You didn't see backstage.
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You saw a blue you saw fake lockers, and they
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do interviews in front of them. This was the first
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time you're exposing that there's more than just the It's
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not it's a TV show yet, but I think it's
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real too. I think that's where I bring up revolution,
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because they expanded.
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In that sense, I understand. Yeah, definitely, they invented a lot.
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They tried on the new stuff to integrate in the show. Yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, well even you and the Cruise Ofweights as well,
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Like that was the Cruiseweights was something we never saw
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on the WWF television. If you only watched WWF, you
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were like, what the hell is this?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, that was a unique selling point from WCW. Of course,
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the cruiseweight division because they were able to show different
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style of matches.
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Yeah, that was very important. Yeah. I think that was
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actually a very very important wheel of the whole plan
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that it worked, the cruiseweight division. Yeah.
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And then as a promoter yourself, though obviously each event
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is to promote the next event as well, you're supposed
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to carry over into each one.
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Each one's kind of a promotional tool.
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WCW, though, did something which I never it's I think
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what bit in the ass was they gave away pay
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per view quality matches every single week. So Rick Flair
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versus Ho Cogan or Hoe Cogan versus Macho Man or
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Sting versus.
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The Giant weekly every week.
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So when you finally got to a paper someone that's
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actually gonna purchase, you already saw those combos of matches
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over and over again for free on television as a promoter.
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Was that a.
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Mistake or was that a great way to get everyone
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paying attention. But once they were paying attention, they were like,
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oh shit, we have to keep doing this every week.
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Well, once you started, you have to keep up doing it.
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Of course, because of the expectation of defenses. That's why
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they switched to your channel. I think WCW was kind
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of forced to do that because if they just would
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have done it like having squash matches like WWE had
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and then just on the big paper goose, they would
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have those.
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Pairing of matches, that wouldn't work because he in that way.
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Eric Eric is anyway a.
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Very smart businessman, and I have a lot of respect
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for him.
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He I think he's he knew he needed to do
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something different.
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Like you said, it's it's a kind of revolution in
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that sense, and he needed to draw attention, and that
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was the best way to draw attention if you have
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those kind of matches every week, because then of course
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that's a selling point to say, hey, here you have
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matches stars versus stars versus stars instead of having you know,
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it's I don't like that word, but it's a regular
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use in the in the business jobber, you know, or
494
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:41.200
handsome at guys which are squashed in five minutes, you know,
495
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.599
So that's that sense.
496
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.000
I think that was very smart to do.
497
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:50.000
Oh yeah, Like I think years ago when they put
498
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.480
all the Nitra episodes on Peacock, it might have been
499
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.319
Oh no, it was the WW network. I remember watching
500
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.839
the first hundred Nitros and when you watch him all
501
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:01.960
in a row, they all connect. They all have these gigantic,
502
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.640
huge main events from top to bottom.
503
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.680
Like the first match could be like Sting versus.
504
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.599
Ming, and you're like, what the hell, and then like
505
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:10.920
the last match it's like Hogan versus Savage or some
506
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.440
shit like that, and you're like, wow, this is this
507
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:14.680
is this is impressive.
508
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.279
Yeah, of course when you when you pair, so if
509
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.799
you book so so so high class matches, then it's
510
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:28.400
very important to storelines even more much more important because
511
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.960
if the storeline is not good and you see Flair
512
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.720
against Thing five times in a row, then people just go.
513
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:41.720
So the storyline is went much more in the front,
514
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.319
you know, like they became very important.
515
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:46.440
Yeah.
516
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.359
I thought it was amazing.
517
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.920
And here's the question for you, which I always baffled
518
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.640
my brain is over the years in the w W
519
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.920
E they have had E C W reunions like a
520
00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.880
thousand times plus, why never a w C reunion?
521
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.400
What is the reasoning? Because there was such a threat.
522
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:05.599
Yeah, I think there were.
523
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:13.359
WWE was really shocked that other company was actually for
524
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.839
I think a year and a half, we were winning
525
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:20.920
the ratings on TV. So I think they had a
526
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:26.759
really post traumatic shock. They were afraid that if they
527
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.960
do something like that, the WCW gets much more popular
528
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.640
again as WW.
529
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.640
I think interesting because like I always wonder if that
530
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.839
was reason and being like they're so upset that they
531
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:40.680
got beat up that like we're not going to help
532
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.160
that bully who punches in the face for all those
533
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.839
eighty three weeks in a row and beat us in ratings,
534
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.039
and but like that, for a lot of wrestling fans,
535
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.480
that was the greatest time. In today's world, people are
536
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.519
people are like, oh, it's the greatest time now because
537
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.400
there's more money being made in Netflix and and all
538
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.759
these deals and aew exists.
539
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:03.079
It's like, yeah, but wrestling actually those times, Yeah, yeah,
540
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:03.759
And I was.
541
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.240
Looking enough and I'm very grateful that I was able
542
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.960
to work in those days. Now, oh my god.
543
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.440
Yes, yes.
544
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.880
Every every talent from that era from like at least
545
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:20.680
tenty five to like two thousand and one, can't can't
546
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:21.119
touch him.
547
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.480
Each one of you had a different look.
548
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.839
Each one of you have a different style, and I
549
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:28.000
think that's what brought WCW Nitro two. It's forefront as well,
550
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.240
because you had high flyers, you had brawlers, you had
551
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.240
technical wrestlers, you had submission wrestlers, you had every single style.
552
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.680
If you watched WWF at the time, it was the
553
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.960
same style. The only person who was stuck out with
554
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:41.960
Sean Michaels because he was jumping off the top rope
555
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.839
and nobody really else was, you know, and that's what's funny,
556
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.400
is what was that like working with talent who have
557
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.119
all different styles because you had an experience with working
558
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:55.720
with every different type of style, Is that difficult for you?
559
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:56.920
No, it wasn't different.
560
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:01.359
Actually was good for everybody because that kept kept us
561
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:02.480
on our toes.
562
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.359
Is that how you say that? Because you knew you
563
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.839
had to be on top of.
564
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:11.680
Your gain too to be competitive with everybody in the
565
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.839
locker room. And I was learning every time I stepped
566
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.759
in the ring. You know, when I stepped in with
567
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.160
Eddie or it was Dean, or it was whoever, you know,
568
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:22.359
we were Claire or Anderson. You know, every time I
569
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.319
stepped in the ring, I I I learned and I
570
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.400
really enjoyed that time. You also, and it wasn't hard
571
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.759
for me because you know, my dad, my trainer, he
572
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.759
prepared me very well. I mean he wrestled all over
573
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.640
the world, and I knew all those styles. But of
574
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.960
course there you always learn, you always, you never stopped
575
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.559
learning in that business. And that's that's that was very
576
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:48.279
helpful to me.
577
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.319
Hopefully someday we do get our w CW reunion show.
578
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.720
I don't know what's going to happen because WW.
579
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:56.680
Uh.
580
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.599
Well, the thing with me is WSW opened a YouTube channel.
581
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.960
I mean, the WWE opened a YouTube channel for WW
582
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.599
called ww Vault. So now they're just loading up all
583
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.920
old episodes of Saturday night shows and pay per views
584
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.559
and full matches and nitros.
585
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.880
So I'm hoping, I'm hoping it gets the ball roll.
586
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.960
Because they didn't open an ECW channel, they opened a
587
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.559
WCW channel.
588
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.640
Well, that would be great, I you know, that would
589
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.559
be great. But maybe it happens because you know, the
590
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:29.119
owners are different now.
591
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.319
I think it's TKO which Entertainment maybe have a different
592
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:33.839
look at it.
593
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.559
You know, it could happen.
594
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:40.519
You know, beforehand I would have said no, no. You
595
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.880
should remember when when WWE bought WCW, all those guys
596
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:52.119
which transferred over to WWE. I think the only guy
597
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.920
who really made it up there is Booker T and
598
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.519
maybe Ray everybody else.
599
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.880
Everybody else from the time they just they didn't use them.
600
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.359
They wanted to make them.
601
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:07.880
I know.
602
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.319
It's like, do you think that vinsic Man would spend
603
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.279
money just to embarrass the company what she possibly might
604
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:16.680
have done.
605
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.799
That's a good question. I I don't know Vince that well,
606
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.799
you know, so I would. I hope you wouldn't, but
607
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:38.559
who knows. But yeah, that's it. Yeah, how how shall
608
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:39.039
I put it?
609
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.079
I'm a human being which has a lot of high
610
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:49.799
moral standings, and the words in English is hard. You know,
611
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.000
you always have to decide for yourself if that what
612
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:58.279
you're doing is that good or not good? And other
613
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.640
people made it might have other perspectives on their decisions
614
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:04.960
as I do put it in a nice way.
615
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.759
So what you're saying is, yes, vinsick Man would spend
616
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.440
money to embarrass people.
617
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.440
No, that's what you said.
618
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:16.720
That's what I said.
619
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.279
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't go that far because I don't
620
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.119
know it, and I hope you But of course he's
621
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.279
been in the business for many, many years, and to
622
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.359
be that long in the business and having a big
623
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.759
company like that which always expanded and grows, and you
624
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.559
have to be a tough businessman. And I think for
625
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:45.240
a tough businessman to have too much emotions is not helpful.
626
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.720
Yeah, it sounds like a man had too much emotion.
627
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.920
Any story I've ever read for the past twenty nine
628
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.519
years about WCW through vinsic Man's eyes as he was bullied,
629
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.960
it was unfair at Ted Turner's money was holding him
630
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.799
down and he's a family run company.
631
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:06.559
How dare he?
632
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.480
How dare Ted Turner try to put out a mom
633
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:11.559
and pop shop like the WWF.
634
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.799
Okay, that's what I gather.
635
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.799
Well I am.
636
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.920
When I was an active wrestler, I kept myself away
637
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.440
from backstage politics because they're no and it's just stressful
638
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:28.000
on your mind.
639
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.839
So and that's what I do after my active career.
640
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:34.480
I don't, you know, I don't read them a lot
641
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.359
of stuff in the Internet and stuff like that because
642
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.559
a lot of times, you know, it's just yes.
643
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.119
And I don't want to use my.
644
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.680
Time in my life to worry about things what I
645
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.599
read from some persons. You know. I try to gather
646
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.279
positive people around myself to positive things. And if I
647
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.359
feel some guy is handling himself the wrong way or
648
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.960
he's not a good guy or is negative, I just
649
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:04.319
try to get distance.
650
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.319
That's a good way to look at life. I need
651
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.239
to stop doom scrolling then, because yeah, boy, I find
652
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.320
a lot of politics on my phone by accident, and
653
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.960
I'm like, this is not what I want.
654
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.480
But not just regular politics.
655
00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:22.199
And then then you don't fall into wrestling politics like
656
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:22.960
oh god.
657
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.920
Same that. Actually, that's true.
658
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.039
If you stop watching the daily news on TV for
659
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.840
a while, you are much heavyer, happier.
660
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:33.400
Guy.
661
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.800
That's that's it, I'll tell you. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
662
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.679
Watching daily news maybe once a week, that's fine, or
663
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.719
every two weeks, and I feel much better because every
664
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.800
day if you hear oh, here's a war, and there's
665
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.000
a war, and this guy is that, and here's a killing,
666
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:51.079
here's a shooting, here's.
667
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:56.519
It makes you feel like, fucking what world do I live? Exactly?
668
00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:00.039
And that's why I distance.
669
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.519
Good, good, idea, good good twenty nine years of experience FROMM.
670
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.840
Sabic Nitro, you definitely have kept away, kept away from that.
671
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.000
I used to work for a television station for seventeen years.
672
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.199
I work for a news station, and I will tell
673
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.159
you what. For seventeen years, I thought the world was
674
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.480
the scariest place because for eight hours a day, I
675
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.559
was told how terrible the world was. Look at this fire,
676
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.639
look this dead baby, look at this dead person, this
677
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:26.760
person hates that person.
678
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:27.599
So on, I so.
679
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.519
Forth and and now the weather and then get to
680
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:36.880
the weather. So I I worked with I worked for
681
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.800
a TV station for seventeen years up until this past January,
682
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.440
and I'll tell you right right now, my mind, my body,
683
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.599
my soul, I feel clear, I feel healthier, I feel
684
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.719
happier because I haven't been watching that shit every single
685
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.800
day and day of the week.
686
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.159
Yeah, that's what I mean. Very good, so smart to you.
687
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.360
So try it distance.
688
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.599
Yes, don't believe that Vin mcmahn purposely boughtsw just to
689
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:06.760
hold on all the wrestlers.
690
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.480
Don't believe that or believe it. Up to you. It's
691
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.159
your day to decide yes or no. I'm gonna go
692
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.280
with yes. But that's my thoughts.
693
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.159
But in reality, though, WW Nitro the first episode will
694
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.000
always be one of those moments in wrestling where people go,
695
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.199
I can't believe what a successful night this was, because
696
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.000
from this point on again, this is the first when
697
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.039
it airs there is no Raw Ross preempted, because that
698
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:35.079
is when Raw used to be preempted by Tennis and Puppies.
699
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.920
That's right, They used to have Puppies and Tennis on
700
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.880
USA Network and that would prehenpt Monday Night Raw on Mondays,
701
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:48.039
and so Nitro went had no competition. Yeah, so great
702
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.159
timing to launch that show. And then the next week
703
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.800
was the first time they went head to head, and
704
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.760
that's where the ratings war really begins. And before we
705
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.599
wrap this up, though, when you were in WSW and Nitro,
706
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.599
was there a television Backstaine playing raw so you can
707
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:02.400
see what they were doing.
708
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:09.000
Yeah, definitely in every locker room. So yeah, because because.
709
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.199
I guess now the office did it on purpose so
710
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.440
we see which we could do better than them. Well,
711
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.440
on the other hand, a lot of guys said, hey, listen,
712
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.480
we would like to have the TV here so we
713
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.320
can do better than them. So because I think everybody
714
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.880
was pulling on the same string, the WCOW office and
715
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.360
all the guys, they're all the workers because we knew
716
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.880
we have this had this chance to be the number
717
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.519
one company, and everybody wanted to work for the number one.
718
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.800
Company and showed the best.
719
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.599
And that's the reason why we have the TV to
720
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:54.079
get better spots, do better promos, whatever to react, you know,
721
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.719
because if you see on other television three vertical suplexes,
722
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.159
you wouldn't put in and you mentioned suplex, you know
723
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:03.440
you would do with something else.
724
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.639
Of course, yes, I'd hope you wouldn't see three vertical
725
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.039
superlexes in one match, but.
726
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:11.159
You never know.
727
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:17.119
Well, it depends what company you watch, especially.
728
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:17.400
That time as well.
729
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.159
Good point, good point, But yeah, no, the Monday Night Wars.
730
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.719
No matter what people will tell me how much money's
731
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.760
being made or was it made during this time or
732
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.039
even in today's world where like they make you so
733
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.119
much money off Netflix.
734
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:30.920
Yeah, I don't care.
735
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.400
When in ninet teenty five through two thousand and one,
736
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.320
if I walked into a gas station, I would see
737
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.320
a Steve Boston or an nWo shirt.
738
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.239
Well, you don't see that. In today's world.
739
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.119
You could walk into any store and find a WCW
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or WWF piece of merchandise. Didn't matter what store you
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went into, you would find it. So in today's world,
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that's not the way it is. So I will always
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say the Monday Night Wars was the greatest time to
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be a professional wrestler and a professional wrestling fan.
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That's my thoughts.
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You can argue that if you want, but I will
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argue with you and you're wrong and I'm right, But
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all in all, alex Right, thank you so much for
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sharing your perspective on I'm first episode of Nitro.
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I really enjoyed our conversation.
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Remember, folks, As he brought up don't watch the news
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to stay away.
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Just stay away from it so you'll feel better. But
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I'm Steve Faul. Actually you know what, people wraps up?
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What do you got going on? Talk about your company?
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I want to know what's your next show coming up?
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Well, we just had a show three weeks ago and
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I was actually really really good for German standards. We
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had like seven hundred spectators. Yeah, of course for Germany
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is actually a very good number. And yeah, I have
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a lot of good and very talented new guys on
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my show. They debuted and they're all booked in all
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of Germany. So I'm very proud that those guys have
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had a very good start in the business.
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Now so awesome.
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Yeah, I think a few of those you will see
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about in a year or two years internationally.
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Ye, look at your hands on the future and I
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like it. Hands in the past, hands in the future.
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Alex Right, thank you so much for being here on
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Tankout Media. I'm Steve fall He's Alex Right. Have a
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wonderful day and we'll see you next time.
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Bye bye, bye bye.