Episode Thirteen: Viggo Mortensen (Amy's Version)

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Hi, and welcome to Previously on Riverdell, I'm Courtney and
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I'm Amy, and we're in the mood for chaos. Previously
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on riverdel is a rewatch podcast where we dissect the
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show episode by episode. Each week we'll take it in
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turns to do a sixty second chaos recap before an
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indepth scene by scene breakdown.
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So today we are on season one, episode thirteen, this
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season finale.
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It's the final countdown. Here we go it is.
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It is the sweet hair After according to the title
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of this chapter. But yeah, it's been been a journey.
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When we made him, we did just thirteen weeks of recording.
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It took us a little bit longer than her two
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weeks to actually.
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Get through the ops, probably like fifteen sixteen weeks.
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Yeah, something like thoughts like it's been for the last
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like fourish months, let's say we have been. I think
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taking it slowly has been nice though literally, something really
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pleasant about like sitting down watching the episode, digesting it,
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dissecting it, and then kind of forgetting about it for
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a week and then coming back to it.
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Yeah, and speaking of Courtney, it is your turn to
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do the chaos freak up, So would you like to
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share your thoughts on season one episode thirteen.
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Yeah, sure, an episode I watched yesterday and have totally
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retained all of all of the things that happened in it. Okay,
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previously Aunt Riverdell episode thirteen, it's the aftermath of everything
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that came in the episode before, which you would expect
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it was the episode before, but we find out who
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killed Jason Blossom. It was Clipper Blossom. Clipper Blossom is
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now dead. He was found hanging surrounded by drugs. So
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this is like the whole aftermath. I thought they had
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to have a funeral. Sheryl is obviously devastated by this
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whole thing. FP is still in prison because he did
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cover up and you know, manhandle a dead body. Jokeat
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poor poor Jogie because he's only sixteen, has had social
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services get involved, and Fred Fred the Fool got a
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DUI shortly after Archie. His mom left, Mary Molly Ringwold,
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so he's not deemed eligible as a certain guardian. Leaking
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guardian words are hard, So jok Ed is forced to
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move to this outside to join Susie High and live
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with a foster family, who I think we do meet
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in season two. We get some nice teenage riverdel moments.
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We got I love yous, we get moments of people
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getting together, we get truths, we get a suicide attempt. Yeah,
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I'm doing a poor job in recapping this, but I
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feel like it was kind of chaotic. Yeah, and we
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also get the brilliant setup of season two, which I
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also I have a feeling is redconed for in the
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second season because watching it, of like, I don't think
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that matches up with what I know happens.
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I have.
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We're about to.
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Go many a video essay on this, not many videos.
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I watched one video essay on this, but yeah I
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have I'm pretty certain from my research, and I will
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research this proper before we record season two, that the
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writers didn't fully know where they were going with what
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happens at the end of this episode, Okay.
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Which is why, Yeah, there are certain details that were
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included in it. Yeah, and I'm like, that doesn't match up. Yeah,
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because although I forgot completely who killed Jason Blossom, I
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remember very vividly the main arc of season two for
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some reason, I think maybe because it's talked about more
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in later seasons. Yeah, but that is what happened in
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Riverdale episode thirteen. Possibly there was some of what happened
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in Riverdale.
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Yeah, definitely. No, I mean, like, I feel like this
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one I'm still going to go through chronologically because a
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lot of the different scenes feed into each other in
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a way that when I try to break them up,
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I was just like, this is weirdly actually chaotic and
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cohesive at the same time. Episodes, so like, we get
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a lot of very short, snappy scenes of like PLoP
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point PLoP port, but they all feed into each other. Definitely,
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I think you did a good job. It's actually season finale,
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I think, and considering we got the big reveal last episode,
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you could be just fun being worried. I think going
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into this episode there's just gonna be a load of filler.
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But I think they do a really good job of
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being like, Okay, here's some things we need to tie up,
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and here's some things we need to open up for
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the next season. It is called The Sweet Hair after
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which I am assuming, is based on the nineteen ninety
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seven Canadian film that was adapted from a nineteen ninety
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one novel by Russell Banks, and it tells the story
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the school bus accident that kills fourteen children. There's a
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class action lawsuit that divides the community and is tied
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of personal family issues according to Wikipedia. So I think
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we definitely see the themes here of Riverdale being divided
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of both families and the town itself being on different
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sides of things. I feel like they're really keying up
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the idea of like a North versus Site divide for
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season two. In this episode, so it's an interesting me
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a dual narrator opening. It is Jughead and Alice as
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they are both typing. It's mainly Jughead, but she says
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a few things. Yeah, I was really enjoyed because juk
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Head opens it being like the ultimate cliffhanger, Cliffer Blossom
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it killed himself. And that really feels to me like
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the writers being like, yeah, look at that good job
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we did.
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What was not a great cliffhanger.
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And I'm like, so, don it's juke out saying it,
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but I'm like, yeah, was actually a really good cliffhanger.
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Do a good job.
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But I love how they're basically being like, that was
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a great episode and I'm like it was.
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You know, you need more confidence. Good for you, writers.
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So he's kind of summing up what we'd learned, which
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is that the Maple Syr business was a front for
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his business transporting heroin from Canada. Jason had heard and
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it threatened to expose the truth, so Clifford got Mustang
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the Serpent to abduct him. Clifford killed Jason, then killed
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Mustang and try to frame hire him Lodge via the
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leather bag with money. Then makes a Scooby Doo reference
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which I enjoyed a lot, which is he would have
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gotten away with the two if it wasn't for a
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group of pesky kids who uncovered the truth. But what
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I really enjoy is that line. But that's kind of
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like Scooby Doo reference is over them watching a murder
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like ramatized.
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It was like pusky kids, No found a flash drive
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with very incriminating evidence on it.
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Yeah, and watched a murder and all need so much therapy.
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So we learned that like this death has uncovered some
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trauits and wants to face and we're told especially Mary McCoy,
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who apparently wanted every last vestige of corruption crush like
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a snake under a boot heel, which is fucking rich considering.
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She takes brides.
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I'm like because she just blacked out and forgotten.
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She's like, that was my evil twin, and because it's Riverdale,
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I believe that she had an evil twin, but she
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literally took bright. I said the exact same thing. I
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was like, so funny that you one corruption or less
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it's you.
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Honestly, I think it is more of a class thing
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where she's like, no, only rich people do the crime,
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because she's very specifically coming forward the serpents in this episode,
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so it's like white collar crime okay, but any other
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crime is bad and definitely not socioeconomic inequality.
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Come on in. That actually kind of makes no sense
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when you think about it. How big is this town?
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Why do you have two schools? I know, like towns
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can have multiple schools because there's different catchment areas, but
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they always make it seem like only Riverdale people live
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in Riverdale. Nobody comes into Riverdale. No, he's only need
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to come into Riverdale. So why do you have a
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regular school?
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Even they have Riverdale High and then Sightside High. But
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the town is called Riverdale, which means it's like this
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is the town high school. Yeah, this is the other
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people high school. And I'm like, I wonder white people
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are bitter.
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Yeah, it kind of suggests that like Riverdale springing up
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as a town we're now making up a history for.
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But like it sounds like Riverdale sprang up as like
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a township and then it expanded over the river, but
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like the people on the other side of the river
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were blowings and weren't considered to be part of Riverdale,
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and then they like built up facilities and things for
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that area, but everybody was a bit like they're on
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the wrong side of the tracks, even though they built
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the tracks. I don't know, there's like a vibe to
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it that I'm like, I'm sure it makes sense. Maybe
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this is a nuance that we're missing in understanding American
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small times because like even trying to think about it
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from like an Irish small town perspective, I can see
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how that would happen because you'd have like new people
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come in. Then how does the Sodelle development fit into
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that because they'd been building a new Is it a
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housing development, I don't know. They're building something large. We
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think it might be a prison, yes, but they're building
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something and people are gonna have feelings about that. Yeah,
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I'm interested in if this is going to come up
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as a theme at all in the next season, or
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like it raally reminds me.
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And this is why a hill I will die on
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is that Sweet Valley High Walk. So Riverdale could run,
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Like I fully believe multiple writers in the Riverdale room
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red Sweet Valley High growing up, because Sweet Aalley also
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does a thing where they Sweet Valley and they Sweet
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Valley High School. But then there's also an other side
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of the track, and like so they always talk about
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how perfect Sweet Valley is and how it's utopia of blonde,
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perfect size six American girls and all that stuff. Then
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they're like, oh, but there's the dodgy side of the town.
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And then they also like retrospectively add in stuff where
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they'll be like, yes, and there's a thriving Mexican population,
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and it's like, no, you're all wasps, and you've like
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one person with the name that isn't a wasp, the
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American name. So like that kind of retrospective. We need
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to expand the world, so we're just going to pretend
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it's been here all along.
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That's what I'm.
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Getting with this on the sight side, where there's something
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like oh yeah, there's this whole other half of the
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town that's big enough for their own high school that
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we just haven't really ignowlched it.
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I respect it over Adial. What a place? Yeah, what
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a place.
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So we're in the prison and the sheriff is talking
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to f P and for some reason, juughhead a minor
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is just there.
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Also, why is FP like not in prison? Because I
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know that is the prison, but it's also just like
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a holding, Like it's not a proper prison. He's not
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in prison closed, he's not. It's not he hasn't been
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properly detained. He's just in a at least house.
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And they keep saying he's about to be moved for
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the trial because they've mentioned that. So but like sometimes
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they talk about it like he's going to be in
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the Riverdale prison until the trial, and then other times
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they're like, oh, he'll be there. Extremely what happens is
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you're sent to prison to await trial and then you
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do it. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe they just
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didn't want to have to build him with their step
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which they're like, you know what he can say there,
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they have to hire extras, like the whole thing. So
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the sheriff offers him a deal if FP gives names
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and who's selling the drugs in Riverdale, he'll get a
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lighter sentence. And at is basically like, look, serpents don't
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do hard drugs. We sell dimebag weed. And he's like,
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and I'm no snitch. So the sheriff is kind of like, Okay,
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you're looking at twenty years for this, so think about it.
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And again, Joe.
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Kid's just there, just charging this, you know.
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So Betty's talking to Archie and she's saying that like
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her family's just doing the Cooper thing and pretending everything's fine.
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Her dad's back, Polly's back, no one's talking about anything
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that they've gone through. And she says that they're just
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pretending everything's normal and perfect when they're really a Greek suburban.
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Tragedy, which I did enjoy.
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And then she's like, we need to deal with this
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or it's all going to happen again. And then Archie
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just looks really confused, like deal with things what. Archie
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has a lot of confusion in this episode. So Veronica
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is telling Archie that she wants to come clean to
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Betty about their padda and Archie is like what, and
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she's like a romance Archie and Archie kind of goes, look,
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we need to be careful. The last time I had
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this conversation it didn't go well, and I just feel like, bro,
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she's literally in a relationship with someone else, Like it's
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very different circumstances. So Veronica is just like, look, I'll
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do it. Then Betty and our chair called the principal's
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office where the mayor is there, and she's like, oh,
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I want to feature the two of you at the
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jubilee because you represent the future as you are the
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young people who working with Sheriff Keller on my office lol,
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working in spite of Sheriff Keller on their office, helped
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bring peace and justice to our streets.
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And Betty's immediately like that's not what happens. Yeah, Like
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I love Betty in this.
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She's just so like, you don't get to reckon this
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at all.
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This is por spin and I'm not about it. Yeah.
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So the mayor asks Archie to sing with the pussycats
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and Betty to do a speech, and in fairness, Archie
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straight away is like, what about your cat? And like,
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Archie's a good friend I think in this episode, and
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the mayor just basically goes He's welcome to attend, but
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his dad is in jail, and it would be confer
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using to have them.
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On stage, which is basically it's basically.
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Jukehead is not middle class and cookie cutter perfect, and
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therefore we will not acknowledge the fact that really him
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and Betty did all the world.
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Like all Archie did was break.
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Into a trailer accidentally at a convenient time, Betty and
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Jokehead did everything else. Like it is so infuriating. She's like,
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you're heroes, the kind of heroes Riverdale desperately needs right now,
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which I'm guessing is white and middle class. Yeah, the
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joke thing is so interesting to me because I think
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an overwhelming theme in this season has been prison stigma.
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Yeah's is so fascinating.
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We have like the white collar criminal in Hirom and
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he's coming home and I assume there will be like
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a few like whispered things behind his back, and like
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the people talk with the lodges, but in general they'll
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be nice to the lodges because the lodges are so
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entrenched in Riverdale, unwealthy, Whereas then you have FP in
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prison or like going to prison. They know he did
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not kill Jason, and there's just this stigma attached to Jokehead,
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attached to f He even though joke had nothing to
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do with it, He's been punished constantly for something his
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father has done, even with Fred, Like Fred has been like,
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you know, maybe not intentionally, but he has been punishing Jokhead.
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And it's so fascinating. Everything's okay in Riverdale as long
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as you're not embroiled in anything we do with scandal.
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Yeah, and I think it really depends on the kind
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of scandal because people are a lot more forgiving of
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Ronica than they are of Jokehead, when arguably Ronica's dad
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has done things that are a lot worse. Okay, yeah,
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FP covered up a murder, not condoning that, not a fan,
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but like Ronica's dad ruined multiple people's livelihoods and drove
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a man to try and take his own life. But
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because they're rich and because they will still have power,
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and like this episode really has that theme of people
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coming for the serpents, and like I really feel like
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we're sowing the seeds for his Beddy calls it later
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like a Riverdale civil war. There's a lot I think
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we could talk about about class, and like you say
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about stigma and about how different people are treated, because
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Chokehead arguably should be someone in the school is so
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proud of and being like, look, he was literally homeless
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and we didn't notice us.
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Like he pulled his boot. He is like the poster
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boy for like, you know, he didn't let his background
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stop him. His dad's in prison, and you're like, okay,
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should be like, hey, his dad's in prison.
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His mom won't let him come visit because she's horrendous,
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And he's keeping on top of his studies. He's writing
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for the newspaper. He just solved a murder, like he's.
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Writing a fictional novel.
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About real life events and people, because that is how
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fiction works. Justice for Joghead. But in the cafeteria, Betty
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tells Joghead she won't do it unless he's up on
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the stage with her, and he basically says, look, I
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appreciate it, but it's not my thing anyway, and then tells.
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Them about the deal FP was offered.
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So at one point, like Kevin says something about like
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the drug running and Jokad just says, this isn't the
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wire and I got so jarred by hearing a real
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life reference, because it's something that they really stop doing
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after this season where they make up their own versions
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and still unless I think sometimes they still mentioned old films,
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but like a contemporary reference really spooked me. It's like
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when they mentioned Netflix and I was just like ugh,
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and then they mentioned Betty Draper.
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I know this. It's just it's like, oh, what show
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are we watching?
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Because yeah, please start making up the weird names and
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be like this isn't the Cable, you know, instead of
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the Wire, which is exactly the kinding briverdel will start
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to do soon. But Betty talks about how they're only
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talking about the serpents and they're not talking about the
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fact that it was Clifford who did all this in
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Clifford who started the drug business and stuff. And she's like,
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I'm writing about this for the Register, which is her
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parents' time newspaper. It's not like the Blue and Gold,
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which is the school one. So Branica is like, hey, nice,
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is the perfect time to tell Betty Archie and I
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are together in front of the table full of people.
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So funny, Like, first of all, she didn't give Betty
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any space in case Betty did react as badly as
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they feared.
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She told her in front of Betty's boyfriend, like that
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would have essentially been pretty uncomfortable.
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It was the thing of like, cool, Okay, murder solved,
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we need to like uncover a corruption and the scandal
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or whatever. Also, me and Archie are together, except she
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doesn't even say that. Yeah, she says they kissed a
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few times, and Archie looks really confused.
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Archeeka's girl, Yes, Archica's girl. Even Archie is like, I
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am confused that you're bringing this up right now. And
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if Archie Andrews is questioning her junch mother, then you
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have problems because that man does not have like lateral thinking.
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He is a purely in the moment thinker. Luckily, Betty
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is normal. I'm all about it and just as like
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I have a boyfriend, but thanks flooding me.
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No, I'm happy for you.
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And joke Head's kind of smiling to himself a see
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like nums on a burger, just like hey, but yeah,
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so that's completely just exactly how you'd want to handle
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the situation. Excellent work, Ronica. Yeah. So Cheryl is in
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the barn where Clipper Possum died with Penelope and Penelope
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is taking the abusiveness to a whole new.
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Level and turns oct He and goes, why are you crying?
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You hated him, and.
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Then smaller like it doesn't matter. It literally doesn't matter
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how she felt about him. It's still her dad and
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she's allowed to feel. However, She's like, if she had
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wanted to feel, I don't care. I'm sure Penelope would
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have had an issue with it. It was just the
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idea that Cheryl was expressing an emotion that Penelope hadn't
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pre approved.
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That She was like, why are you like this? And like,
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this is fifty percent of Cheryl's family gone in like
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the space of four month. Yeah, and I would quite
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double with that. Oh my god, I'm like also the
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double whiplash of finding out that the reason why the
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first family member is gone is because of the second
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family member who was now gone, and she didn't time
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to talk to him, to confront him, to tell him
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how she felt about him taking away her brother, her
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best friend, like kind of her only friend. So then
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Penelope is saying that they've always been cursed ever since
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the original murder where brother killed brother and goes, who
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will the grim Reaper take next to you me, maybe
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your father had the right idea, just end at better
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the sweet her after than this awful limbo and then
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walks out and Cheryl's there alone, and she's looking up
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at the rafters where the rope is still hanging out,
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and I.
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Was cut that shit down right the hell? Now? Why
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is it still there?
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Immediately like the warning signs are just fucking like bells.
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I'm like, oh my god, someone get this girl some
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emotional support away from her mother, and someone please check
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in on her. I do find it interesting that they
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have Penelope literally say the name of the episodes, yeah
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in her dialogue that they're really hammering that one home.
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So Archie finds Betty and is like, are you sure
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you're okay with me and Branica because you told me
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you were fine with it before once.
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And you weren't.
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And she's like, yes, I'm with Jughead. I'm very happy.
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And then Archie's like, yeah, I really like Baranica. She's amazing.
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And he looks so depressed while he tells her this,
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and then he starts to go a little part of
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me always thought, and then Petty just cuts them off
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and is like, aren't we lucky to have both found
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the people that we are meant to be with. I'm like,
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it is just such a like, don't go down that lake.
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Do not have that thought like Firmpole absolutely not and
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just saves him from himself essentially. So Hermione has fired
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all of the serpents from the business she and Fred
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co own. And I think Fred really redeems himself in
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this episode because he was really shitty in the last one.
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And I think they do a bit of raconing with
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him too, in regard to Jughead his attitude towards Eppie,
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because Fred gets really angry and he goes those guys
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stood bias when no one else would. And Hermione is like, well,
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Hiram can't be so sado criminals, and Fred was like, well,
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we are partners. You don't get sidinal So it's like
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Hiram is a criminal. It was like, what do you
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mean he can't be sociated with criminals.
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It's such a me thing that like white collar crime good,
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any of the crime bad.
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Yeah, She's like, oh, speaking of partners, Hiram, and I
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want to buy you out. And Fred's just like putting
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off firm writing and I'll consider it Basically, the Pussycats
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have popped up and Josie is telling Archie that his
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writing is getting better and better, and he's immediately like thanks,
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because I'm hoping, and she's like, absolutely not, like my
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mom my mother has approved a song. I just love
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the audacity of Archie, who consistently trundle folks in Josie
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and the Pussycats rehearsals, going I want you to do
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all of my stuff all the time. And I'm like,
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give me the confidence of a white man, please, like
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white man.
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In particular, he has so much confidence that's so unearned.
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Yeah, Archie's like, oh, but like this song, it's for
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my friend's he'd been for a lot, and Josie just
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I love this is just like yeah, but this is
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your believes for the whole time, not just your friends,
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so which is valid as fair and Archie is just
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like world now revolve around. Archie Els is reading Betty's
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article and it's like, this is the best thing you've
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ever written. I am not publishing it and you should
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not publish it anywhere, and she basically is like, I'm
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not going to publish it because you're a your cad,
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you're too close to this, and then Alice says there's
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been a tax on the south side. The fact that
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she's to specify not the police, regular people, I'm.
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Like, the police shouldn't be going to talk anyone. What
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do you mean not the police, don't.
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It's not the police going after the serpents regular people.
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I'm like, the police guard to life, just go beat
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the shit out of people for being a member of
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a thing, Like how dare you? But basically, she's like
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crime is rising and people need to focus their anger
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somewhere right now to the Serpents, and she doesn't want
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Betty to be a target. And I'm like, but the
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Serpents haven't done anything wrong. They were literally saying, hey,
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don't stand up for this marginalized group of people who
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are being unfairly targeted, because then they'll yell like you
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for defending them. So just let everyone, including apparently the police.
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Go after them for something they haven't done. Yeah, the
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Serpents are such a soft gang in like, they're just
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like a group of people who take care of each
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other because clearly the rest of the town has abandoned them. Yeah,
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they sell some drugs, big woop, Like they use the
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money to put back into their own community, Like this
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is not like a bunch of them are getting rich
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off this, so there's like a hierarchy thing. It's basically
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a biker gang and they're just taking care of each other.
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And it's like such a soft, beautiful, beautiful iteration of
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the concept of a guy.
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00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.680
Like I think the worst thing they do really is, okay,
480
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:54.519
some light vandalism. They did attack a teenager at one point,
481
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.720
which wasn't cool. Yeah, so that the serpents was that
482
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:57.200
someone else?
483
00:23:57.240 --> 00:23:57.559
I don't know.
484
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.559
Besides that, just like they like go and group adventures
485
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.160
to track down a few snakes to put in boxes
486
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:10.039
and send to people like as gangs go there. Yeah,
487
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:13.680
they have their own code of ethics and a code
488
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:15.440
of loyalty that, to be honest, a lot of the
489
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:19.200
China riverdal doesn't seem to have. So you know, you
490
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.000
can't really be team out at them. Not advocating for
491
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.079
crime or drugs selling that is not cool. They don't
492
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.319
even like they say, they don't even sell hard drugs.
493
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.519
In terms of things medicinal in some states, you know,
494
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:37.279
they could be healthcare providers in California. I don't know
495
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.480
enough about this to be waffling. So Cheryl is in
496
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:43.440
the locker room and Veranica comes in. It's like I'm
497
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.440
saying sorry, I'm like for practice, and Cheryl's like, oh,
498
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.559
don't worry, you just missed my abdication. You're in charge now,
499
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.759
and she gives Aranica her HBIC shirt, which is head
500
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:55.480
Bitch in Charge. I willed it.
501
00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.440
Oh god, fucking the alarms should have red every buddy's
502
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.559
head at this, Like, I know these are teenagers, you
503
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.039
don't know, but I'm like, ask her, why, yeah, why
504
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.640
is she giving you her head bitch and charge shirt.
505
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.519
I feel like Baronica is trying to be there for
506
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.680
Cheryl but just also has the attention span of a
507
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.640
puppy and keeps getting distracted by other things. Because there's
508
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.640
a few times like Veronica is throughout this episode, I
509
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.759
think the one who is trying to check on Cheryl
510
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.839
the most, but she just never gets that extra step
511
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.319
until a certain point. But she is talking to Betty
512
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.200
after and she's like something is going on at torn Hill,
513
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.240
but then they need to get distracted talking about Betty's article,
514
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.799
and then Ranica is like, are you actually okay with me?
515
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:40.400
And Archie? And I'm like, I love how you've.
516
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.359
Gone from Hey, our friend whose dad murdered her brother
517
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.240
is acting really weirdly and I'm worried about her, to Hey,
518
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.119
that article that your mom could make you a target
519
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.519
for violence is really good, to hey, you okay, me
520
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.279
shifting your extra neighbors interesting and.
521
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.440
It's so good, and like pulling out the Backdel test
522
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.960
is like hilarious because first of all, also I don't
523
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:04.519
know if you know this, or also I don't know
524
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.160
if listeners know this, but Alison Bachdell, who invented the
525
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.400
Backdeil test, yeah, did it as a joke. It was
526
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:12.839
supposed to be about queer women on television, and it
527
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.519
has morphed into like people having a conversation not about men. Yeah,
528
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.240
but it was the whiplash of Veronica being like, whoopsie
529
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.480
failed the Bachdel test. Anyway, I'm kids, so it's so Veronica.
530
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.079
I was actually I was watching this with my partner.
531
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.079
He was not a Riverdell watcher, but this was the
532
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.279
first time he's like sat down and watched an episode
533
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.200
with me, and at this point he was like, so,
534
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:39.480
I don't understand the stakes at all, and I was like, Okay,
535
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.079
it's Riverdale. So you have to remember that everything that
536
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.400
happens in the show, because I think this is one
537
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:46.720
of the interesting things about Rudall. The thing that makes
538
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.960
a teenage show are that the stakes are identical. Yeah,
539
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.079
so FP in prison and Betty being at risk of
540
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:58.000
being attacked by somebody, and oh, I kissed your friend?
541
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:02.200
Is that okay? Those are all the same thing. Yeah, yeah,
542
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.319
it's amazing. But it's like those those takes are identical. Yes, characters,
543
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.119
they all require the same level of importance.
544
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.200
And I do think that's a very authentic thing, like
545
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:13.400
you said, to a teenage experience, or like, it is
546
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.200
something I really love about Riverdale. But it is objectively
547
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:18.839
hilarious because then Polly walks in. It's like, oh, I
548
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:24.400
miss this gossiping, being on the Vixines doing homework, and
549
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.960
like I just kind of miss being in school, and
550
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.960
Beddy's like, comeback. Then Polly's like, what eight months pregnant?
551
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.480
I mean, who knows. In the Riverdale timeline, Polly is
552
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.920
heavily pregnant and has been isolated in a nunnery and
553
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.119
all of these things, and like, I love how then
554
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.799
she'll come in and just I wish I could have
555
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.119
a gossip and like they are equal to hers.
556
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.359
Yeah, and you know it's it's hollid. Yeah, you have
557
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.039
gone through the terrible time and she just want a
558
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.599
sense of normality. But she's so like ready to just
559
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.119
be like let's go back to normal. It's so good. Yeah,
560
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.039
Like it's brilliant.
561
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.680
So Polly Immediate is like a mom doesn't want me
562
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.799
to go to school support she doesn't and that he's like, well,
563
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.960
but she doesn't know, won't hurt her? Also like Alice,
564
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.200
let your daughter continue to get an education, like come on.
565
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.200
So jug Head and Archie get back to the Andrews
566
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.720
and there's a social worker there who is telling Jughead
567
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.200
that there's a sight Side family willing to She says
568
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.759
sponsor him. I presume that's kind of the same as
569
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.119
a fostering, but that he would be in a new
570
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.839
school district, so we'd have to move to Sightside High.
571
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.119
She says, the.
572
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.960
Paperwork is processed and he'll be there by the end
573
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.359
of the week. And in fairness, because the last episode,
574
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.839
Fred was being pretty shitty about Jughead and the trouble
575
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.720
that apparently follows him blah blah blah. But I guess
576
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.880
at least Fred understands, Oh, your dad didn't actually do
577
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:48.519
a murder.
578
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.440
Yes, I don't like her on backing down because FP
579
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:55.799
has been proved innocent. Yeah, not at all.
580
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.599
It's not okay. He's doing the bare minimum now.
581
00:28:58.720 --> 00:28:59.720
But yeah, when.
582
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.720
Archie, she's mum first left him, he got a dui
583
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.039
and he says that, combined with his cash flow problems,
584
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:12.200
make him ineligible to be chuck Head's sponsor or legal guardian.
585
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.839
Jughead's like very clearly trying to pretend it's fine while
586
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.400
also looking sincerely devastated, and this kind of beginning of
587
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.240
Jughead trying to retreat into himself and pull away, Like
588
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.839
Jukehead is heavily avoidant, and this is you can see
589
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:27.799
him kind of starting to slip into that mode. So
590
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.119
like Archie immediately goes to f P and is just like,
591
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.599
you need to take the deal. Jug Heads going to
592
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.039
get moved, like all of this is going to happen.
593
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.519
And FP goes the serpents are innocent and no one cares,
594
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:43.720
and he's like, they have my back. Jughead understands that,
595
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.640
and he's like, when the time comes, the serpents will
596
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.359
stand up, and he lay see is just like, look,
597
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.720
Jughead's tough, he's crappy, he's a survivor. But he tells
598
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.559
Archie he's going to try to pull away from you.
599
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.960
You and Betty need to make sure he does not
600
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.000
do that. I think this is good pair from that
601
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.720
fee to probe because he knows Jokehead well, and like
602
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.799
it shows that despite everything he and Jukehead of being her,
603
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.160
he does understand his son. I think FP is very
604
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.680
good at recognizing when he can't give Jokehead what Yokhead needs,
605
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.079
and he's not afraid to ask the people who can,
606
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.799
so just like he asked Fred to look after him
607
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.920
when he knew he could not offer joke Head a home.
608
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.240
So no, it's really good. I think it's good. And
609
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.480
I also think that it really demonstrates something that Archie
610
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.200
and Mary McCoy and like basically I Fred even as well,
611
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.759
like all of these people, they don't understand that if
612
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.359
FP rolls on the Serpents, even if they aren't innocent,
613
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.079
if he gets out, he has decimated his community. Fred
614
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.519
fucking everybody else is not there for FP, and him
615
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.960
rolling on the Serpents will not make them there for
616
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:53.079
him anymore than if he didn't like stayed in jail,
617
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:54.880
like they're not there for him. Yeah, and not turn
618
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:56.079
his back on his community.
619
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.160
I think that f P is one of the most
620
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.119
loyal characters on the show, because, like you're saying, there's
621
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:05.920
a very individualist attitude with the other ones, and like
622
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.519
everyone in Riverdale is so quick to turn their back
623
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:13.359
some people when they make any kind of mistake. And yeah,
624
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:19.279
I think we just really see FP's care for Jukeheads.
625
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:23.079
He's obviously devastated him and made both of us cry
626
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.759
right this season, but like you see that love and
627
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.559
you see how in his own way, FP is always
628
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.960
trying to do the best thing for his son, in
629
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.200
the way that he thinks his best and even if
630
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:39.119
that's not how traditionally you would see that being the
631
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.759
most beneficial, he is trying to live by his own code. So,
632
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.440
speaking of Jokehead, Ranka joins him in the cafeteria and says,
633
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.039
the Betty's babysitting Polly Jukeheads kind of like, are you
634
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:50.960
sure you want to sit the social prior table, and
635
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.279
bronikad like it's very sweet, ran Becaus just like I've
636
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.599
been here for months, it's fine, And She's like hey,
637
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.680
you know, we have a lot in common. And he's like,
638
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.440
while your dad's getting out of jail and mine's got it.
639
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.640
And she's just like, we're dating each other's best friends.
640
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.079
But sure like it's just a very sweet, very human
641
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.920
friendship moment for them, because joke, he and Bronaga are
642
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:12.799
a bit awkward around each other still, you know, they
643
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:13.519
don't really.
644
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:14.400
Hang out together.
645
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:20.240
Yeah, and then Cheryl interrupts and she apologizes to Jughead
646
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.680
and gives him her in her own words, iconic spider
647
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.279
brooch and then says it'll fetch a pretty penny in
648
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.519
the pawn shop, enough to keep you in Hamburgers and
649
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.640
s T shirts for years, if not decades. And you
650
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.720
can see Veronica immediately be like, Okay, that's weird.
651
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.400
Now ye worries and.
652
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.480
She's like, wait, what's going on? But then Kevin Truntle
653
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.680
books into the corner, just being like, come to Betty's locker.
654
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.000
It's terrible. Kevin read the room, and I'm just like,
655
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.440
someone helps Cheryl, like, I'm like, I get that what
656
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.799
happens would distract you a bit, but I'm like, Veronica
657
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.680
circle back that that was really fucking weird. Give a
658
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.319
literal physical reminder. Jukeheads walking around the giant Golden Spider
659
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.160
with room piece for I like, you know, please focus.
660
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.880
So Betty's locker has go to Hell serpent slot written
661
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.440
on it in red over pages of her article. So
662
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.599
someone's printed out her articles, stuck it to her locker
663
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:13.559
and then written.
664
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.720
That and She's like, ages must have taken so long
665
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.000
and somebody has to have seen a person do this.
666
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.119
Because this is the middle of the school day, Like,
667
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.319
it's not because they were having lunch, and I mean
668
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.319
Riverdale's class schedules very odd, but like in pre Sadin,
669
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:29.920
they don't have lunch at eight am.
670
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.400
So wait, we don't know they don't even go to classes.
671
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.680
I mean they haven't even gone to the one lab
672
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.440
that they have in a while. But Betty's like, oh,
673
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.599
it's just some loser. Its spray paint, and jug Heads
674
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:44.039
like that's not spray paint. And Archie reveals then that
675
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.720
it's pig's blood, and we see Archie having a melt
676
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.599
because I think Archie's savior complex is really coming to
677
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.279
the forefront night. You can see how powerless he feels
678
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.359
because for him, his two best friends Jugheads getting forced
679
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.400
to move away. Betty's getting targeted, and Fred's like, look,
680
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.920
you can just keep showing up for people, and Archie goes,
681
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.839
I've been showing up all year and it hasn't made
682
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:06.160
one bit of difference.
683
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.920
I mean, I'm just going to correct the record siety
684
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.719
that he has shown up a bit. He has more
685
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.639
often than not shown up. He has had his moments.
686
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.840
But I was like, that is an overstatement, Archibald. I
687
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.000
can quite agree with you that you have been showing
688
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.039
up all year. I have only repeatedly shown up, and
689
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:23.639
I'll give you that.
690
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.360
He makes grand gestures like I feel like Archie's not
691
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.599
good at the day to day quiet support, but then
692
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.559
he's there for the big showy gesture. You know. Juughhead's
693
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.719
trying to push Betty way at this point, and he's
694
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.199
saying that as long as she's with him and writing articles,
695
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.760
people will come for her. And he says that there
696
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.320
and just this breaks my heart because he goes, there's
697
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.800
an entire multiverse telling him he doesn't belong here. Why
698
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.960
don't I just do everyone a favor? And he's cut
699
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.519
off there, but like, I just want to kick every adult.
700
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.199
But Fred andrews so hard and I'm only excluding Fred
701
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.480
because he did the bare minimum with the life thing.
702
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.639
Maybe even just I's a kick to the ankles, but
703
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.559
like he lists off, he's like the mayor, principal weather Be.
704
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.079
Every adult is trying to ostracize him when they should
705
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.239
be trying to help this child. He was being through
706
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:18.559
so much and is now in a really horrible situation,
707
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.559
and he's just being made to feel like he should
708
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.400
be pushed out of his community because that's what Riverdale
709
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.920
does when you're not a cooper.
710
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.239
Essentially, like when you're not a founding family member, they
711
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.480
don't care. Yeah, I know it's like winter canonically in
712
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.880
the show, but there is something about like the winter scenes,
713
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:38.599
like the kind of the dark night of the soul
714
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.239
kind of vibe of the whole thing. Yeah, that was
715
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.599
like that whole scene was really this was really sad.
716
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.280
Like he's had some really really dark moments all throughout
717
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.360
the season, and like you have to keep remembering that
718
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.559
this is a sixteen year old boy. Yeah, that's the
719
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.039
most stable thing that has ever happened to him. That's
720
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.719
a lot to put on it, like a kid.
721
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.920
Yeah, absolutely, And like, yeah, I think the darkness of
722
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.559
the snow and the cold and kind of the bleakness
723
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.159
of it, I think just really highlights it. Like it's
724
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:11.159
really beautifully shot this episode, like especially Cheryl, Like Cheryl
725
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.840
is always shot incredibly well, but there's some scenes coming
726
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.719
up where the framing and her costuming and everything is
727
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:18.760
just still.
728
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.239
Actually on that point, sorry to like circle back, but
729
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.360
in that scene where she comes in to give the
730
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.039
brooch to Joghead, yeah she is because like Cheryl's whole
731
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.000
thing is she's kind of iconically worn red, and like
732
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.400
even when she was wearing mourning black or whatever, she'd
733
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.599
have like a slash of red involved in that, whereas
734
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:36.360
this is she walked in, it was the most stripped
735
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.679
down we've ever seen Cheryl. She was wearing a gray
736
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.039
T shirt and like a black skirt or black tread
737
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:42.400
I actually don't remember what she was wearing on her
738
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.039
bottom half, black something on her bottom half. No makeup, Yeah,
739
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.960
and like was completely vulnerable. And they've done two interesting
740
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.840
things with two characters where they've stripped them back in
741
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.280
this episode, like their most fund of themselves, which we'll
742
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.480
talk about later on. But I thought, like costuming wise,
743
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.440
that was such a good signifier that like Cheryl is
744
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.039
not okay. Yeah, because even when she was deeply mourning Jason,
745
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:03.880
she has fully made up as well.
746
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.760
I think it's so good that you pointed that out,
747
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.920
because even when she abdicates from the Vixens, she's slightly
748
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.199
more made up. So we see you can track Cheryl's
749
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:18.000
descent in this episode via how she's presenting herself and
750
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:20.440
you can see the cracks, and I think it just
751
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.440
makes her look so much younger and so much more vulnerable,
752
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.599
and like I was screaming at the TV for like
753
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.559
most of this episode, being like someone help her, someone
754
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.639
check out, like she's so clearly not. But like, I
755
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.079
think Madeline Pesh gives such good performance in this episode
756
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.840
of that vulnerability, and like you see the facage, you
757
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.000
can see the mask and you can see the cracks
758
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.400
underneath it, and I think it's just masterfully done. Hermione
759
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.639
basically asks Branica to manipulate Archie into getting his dad
760
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:55.960
to do the thing the deal, and Bronica goes, yeah, sure,
761
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.039
I'll just sexually manipulate Archie into doing my bidding, and
762
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:03.039
Hermione goes, as long as you're in control, and thank god,
763
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:08.400
Veronica's faceless. She goes, what the actual fuck I was joking,
764
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.039
And I'm like, Hermione, this is a sixteen year old girl.
765
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.159
Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you? That was
766
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.119
a weird thing to say, Hermione, I hope you know that.
767
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.639
I'm like, obviously she was joking. Also, the best part
768
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.960
of all of this, you don't need to actually manipulate
769
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.920
Artie to anything. He is just very easily led into
770
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.880
a thought with the mere suggestion of thought, like he
771
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.440
does not. You don't need to do any effort here, Archie.
772
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.320
Do thing. Veronica suggests you thing, Archie think, yeah, my idea,
773
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.280
do you thing? Yeah?
774
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.920
And I think like this scene and a lot of
775
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.559
the other kind of scenes are in this is. I
776
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.199
think they're sowing seeds for conflict between Fred and Hiram
777
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.920
in season two because Hermione is saying he and your
778
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:48.719
daughter are not going to get along, and there's some
779
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:53.239
very ominous music, So I think Hermione's not getting along.
780
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:55.800
Yeah. Hermione, I think, is trying to frighten this.
781
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.159
That she's trying to protect Fred by buying him out
782
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.960
of his business. You know, all completely normal, healthy things
783
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.920
to protect people. So Polly immediately snitches to Alice in
784
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:11.679
two seconds about everything, and Betty calls Alice and her
785
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.559
bullshit and it's just like, I'm sick of all the
786
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.400
secrets in the lives, in town and in our family.
787
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.159
And Alice is like, look, I'm not scared of the truth.
788
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.599
I'm scared for you. That's something's going to happen, and
789
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.760
Betty's like, okay. We see a lot of confident Betty.
790
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:26.800
We see a lot of confrontational Betty, and I think
791
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.559
it's a really nice safe seeing her arc throughout the season,
792
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.000
from the Betty in episode one to the Betty now
793
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.320
because she's like, okay, Mom, wouldn't you be happier if
794
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.559
I wasn't with your head? And Alice is like fuck.
795
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.599
And then she's like, okay, why were you and dad
796
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.199
fighting at that homecoming? Downce FP talked about you were
797
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.679
worried about what he's going to say, and Alice is
798
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.039
visibly distressed, stricken, and it's like, it is not any
799
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.039
of your business. And then we cut Cheryl and she's
800
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.599
coming down the stairs in torn Hill and she talks
801
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:56.760
to me now and she's like, Mom, can I please
802
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:00.599
stay home? And she cries and says how hard and
803
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.679
Penelope just goes I don't care.
804
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.360
Yeah, like Penelope, we fucking know there's something really vulnerable
805
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.559
about it. Like I mean, in general, people are calling
806
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.239
their parents mommy and Doddie, ya, mixt me out. But
807
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.519
with my child does it it's super in her child.
808
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.400
Oh she is a child, but it's super in her child.
809
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:20.679
Begging Penelope to see her as her daughter. It's heartbreaking.
810
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.280
Yeah, this is a scared six year old talk. Yeah,
811
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.280
it's like a twenty second scene, but it just fucker
812
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.480
punches you ride in the gods. So then Alice tells
813
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.320
Betty that the fight at homecoming was because she had
814
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.599
discovered that she was pregnant, and she and Hall had
815
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.199
very different ideas of how they want to deal with it.
816
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.119
And she says, the next day, I went to the
817
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.239
sisters a quiet mercy, and a few months later she
818
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.639
gave birth to a boy the sisters arranged for an adoption.
819
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.280
And she says it's the biggest regret of her life.
820
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.639
And she breaks down and Betty's hugging her and thanking her,
821
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.440
and I'm like, Okay, that's devastating. You wanted to do
822
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.079
that to your own child. You have just said that
823
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.159
that is the biggest out of your life and you
824
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.960
try to force that on Polly. Yeah, go to parapialis.
825
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.760
Yeah. I think this was a really interesting scene as well,
826
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.199
because it was like a mirror of that Strippta and
827
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:15.079
Cheryl vulnerability. What's fascinating is like macon amic is like
828
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.800
super beautiful, yeah, and they make her look really old
829
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.920
with makeup, yeah for some reason, like why are you
830
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.000
doing this, sir? But they make her look really mumsy. Yeah,
831
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.159
and then like she had like no makeup on, it
832
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:27.920
came in like a cardian and her hair tie back,
833
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.239
and it was such a vulnerable, like genuinely, this is
834
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.679
probably like the first honest interaction she's really ever had
835
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.440
with Betty, but she constantly parentifies Betty and expects her
836
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.760
to like be the parent she clearly doesn't have herself,
837
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:42.840
And it's like, that's great, you were going to do
838
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:44.280
this to Polly though. Yeah.
839
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.800
I'm assuming the argument she had with Hal was Hal
840
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.280
wanted her to have an abortion, and she chose to
841
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.000
have the baby and give it up for adoption.
842
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.280
So that's whereas I think she wanted to just have
843
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:54.920
the baby.
844
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.000
Yeah, But either way, Hal tried to do the same
845
00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:59.960
thing to Polly that he tried to do to her,
846
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.960
but she forced the thing that she regrets the most
847
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.000
in life Anto Poly too, So I'm just like, oh
848
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:06.840
my god, just.
849
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.440
Yeah, go to therapy. I think it's so interesting because
850
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.400
it's like she's decided that even though she regrets it,
851
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.960
she still ended up. I mean, she basically literally has
852
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.079
two point five children and her wife pick fantastic, Like
853
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.519
that's like, that's literally what she ended up with. But
854
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.679
it's that thing where people see their kids as like
855
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:25.400
an extension of themselves and then can't fathom that Polly
856
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:28.320
might feel how she felt in that moment because she
857
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.559
was doing what's best for Polly in the same way
858
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.199
she was doing what's best for Betty when like, you
859
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.119
know what it feels like when somebody makes a decision
860
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:40.599
for you, You ask me, gobshite, listen to yourself.
861
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.360
So Betty feels the others in on this, and it's like,
862
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.840
I have a brother in it's mid twenty somewhere, and
863
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.679
Pradaca is just like a blonde of donnas, no doubt.
864
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:53.079
And I'm like, this is not what I'm just inappropriate
865
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.480
like lot. Also, I feel like when she was talking
866
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.199
Archie looks so confused, but not confused that that was
867
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.760
not appropriate. I feel like he just didn't understand ninety
868
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.000
percent of the words that she said.
869
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.119
I mean, it's very Bronica, and I do enjoy it,
870
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.480
but like also I love as all because that's basically
871
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.280
her saying to Betty, if you were a boy, you
872
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.599
would be hot, and I like Broanica maybe impractice.
873
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.679
Yeah, I think you should think about it. Yeah, what
874
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.039
are you say? This is your way of going Betty,
875
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.199
you're really hot. Yeah.
876
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.079
So juck Head calls them from his new high school
877
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.199
that he's just gone to without informing anyone.
878
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.840
Because it wasn't always supposed to go at the end
879
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.519
of the week, and then he just went, fucking I'm
880
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.480
going now or else a week past. We have absolutely
881
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.760
no idea, no idea.
882
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.800
But like as All, I mean, he seems to still
883
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.039
have been living at the Andrews at this point, So
884
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.840
did he just leave a different time to Archie, Like,
885
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.519
I feel like Joke had his cat energy anyway, and
886
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.400
that he probably comes and goes from the house as
887
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.760
he pleases, and you just assume he'll turn up eventually,
888
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.880
but like one would assume him and Archie would walk
889
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.840
to school together, and the fact that Chunk had left
890
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.679
him went to a different school subjectively hilarious.
891
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.199
Nobody, it's very upsetting.
892
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.280
So he's just like, look, this is where I belong
893
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.000
and Archie is like, FP warns me joke Head would
894
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.719
cut himself off go to the dark side, and I'm like,
895
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:11.880
he just went to school.
896
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.880
First school. He's at school. He went to a.
897
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.480
Poor school, and you're calling that the dark side, like
898
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.199
that is so problematic, Archie.
899
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.800
Yeah, they're so dramatic, and he's so like, completely not.
900
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.800
It's like he just decided that obviously Jokid didn't want
901
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.079
to go to the school, therefore it wouldn't happen. And
902
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:29.880
you're like, okay, counterpoint.
903
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.920
So the three of them skid into the car too,
904
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.400
were dramatically running, which I really enjoyed to get to
905
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.960
joke Head, and we see Jukhead is reading and all
906
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.320
these people sit around him and it looks.
907
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:45.119
Menacing when a chip from his plate and it's like,
908
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.239
oh no, they're going to bully him for his lunch.
909
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:49.559
Juke Head likes food.
910
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.480
And then we see Cheryl laying out a white dress
911
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.320
and then laying back on her bed, so Betty, Archie
912
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:58.639
and Branca run through metal detectors, because again we need
913
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.079
to emphasize this is a danger school, yeah.
914
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.360
Where they need detectors and knife crime, et cetera. If
915
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:05.920
they have.
916
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.760
Metal detectors, surely they have security. And how are three
917
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.400
random students who are not students of that school able
918
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.719
to just walk in? And I can only assume it's
919
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.000
rich people privilege. At least, Archie has not worn his
920
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.159
football jacket.
921
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:23.679
The movie, but he did wear to the prison. We
922
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.519
forgot to mention earlier when he went. Also, another thing
923
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.039
I forgot to say was as my partner was watching
924
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.559
the scene where Sheriff Caller was talking to FP, he
925
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.920
said Federal Penitentiary and my partner went, no, don't use
926
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.119
FP's government name.
927
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:42.039
Yeah.
928
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.679
For some reason, he's really hung up on FP is
929
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.519
as a short for something. And I've explained what FP's
930
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.480
name is, but he's like, but it's not like MJ
931
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.000
or DJ. It's lip is random letters. And I'm like,
932
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.119
but that just it's fine. If this is the worst issue,
933
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:58.079
you have a reveal.
934
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:03.000
They go into the cafitia yeah, and plot twist, Jughead
935
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:06.440
is surrounded and everyone is laughing and he's been welcomed
936
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.400
because these people aren't dickheads and they're actually.
937
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.920
Nice to new students. Yeah, and also FP was like
938
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.280
the fucking leader of the serpents there for a while.
939
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.280
They clearly know who Jughead is. They have accepted him
940
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.559
as their king, like he's wearing a crown. Yeah, it
941
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:22.880
was when that happened, I was like, do they not
942
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:24.960
know who he is? But of course they do, because
943
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:25.760
of course they do.
944
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.199
And they go outside and Jugheads like the parents that
945
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.159
we want him there, and he's like, look, maybe I
946
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.239
fit in better here and it will keep her safe
947
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.800
because like Gush like Jugead has been consistently made feel
948
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.239
like shit and ostracized in Murvidelle High. Walking into a
949
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.679
new high school and having a group of people sit
950
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.599
down and welcome him must have been the most jarring
951
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.039
experience for him, having people outside of Betty and Archie
952
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.719
be nice to him, you know. And Betty's like, I'm
953
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.440
not gonna let the civil war split us up and
954
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:00.440
they hug, and then Bronica gets a text from Cheryl
955
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:03.679
that says thanks for trying and going to be with
956
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:08.880
Jason right now, And finally she's like, oh shit, yeah,
957
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.679
so she said where would she go to be with Jason?
958
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.320
And they all go Sweetwater River. So it's a really tense,
959
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.760
really well shot scene where they're like running, they're trying
960
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.039
to find her, and then they burst out onto the
961
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.559
shore of the river and she's in the middle of
962
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.719
it and she's on her knees trying to break through
963
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.360
the ice and they try to step onto it, but
964
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.519
they're worried that it's going to crack, and they're calling
965
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.039
her and they're begging her to come back. She stands up,
966
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.320
she turns around, she looks at them. There's a pause,
967
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.519
and then she just drops into the water and like
968
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.480
it is such a powerful scene, like really is, and like,
969
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.519
I remember this episode, I know what happens. I've seen
970
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.639
the next six seasons of the show, Like I know
971
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.639
she's going to be okay. But they run onto the ice.
972
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:57.599
They are trying to find her underneath it because the
973
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.800
current swashing her down. So they're like wishing the snowhait
974
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.159
to try and find her, and Archie does so he's
975
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:08.280
trying to break through the ice and fun fact, kJ
976
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.920
Appa actually broke his hand doing this and then just
977
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.760
didn't tell anyone for the rest of the shooting. And
978
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:19.320
this is like my version of Ego Morson breaking his
979
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.079
toe and the rings when he kicks the helmet, because
980
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.400
I'm physically incapable of not being like, did.
981
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.280
She know kJ Appa broke his hand? And I'm like,
982
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.360
oh my god, this is the river.
983
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.679
It so like it's really be wrong, you know, like
984
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.679
he's painting out it, like there's blood staining the snow.
985
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.760
It's really beautifully. There were some really good like use
986
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.079
of color. So there was like two things about this. One.
987
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.599
Cheryl is wearing the outfit that she was wearing the
988
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.000
last time she saw Jason, so it's the white dress
989
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.239
and the white cardigan. All you can see is white,
990
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.559
so it's all snow covered. And then you see the
991
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.840
little white figure with like a little splash of red
992
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.519
and Cheryl's hair in the in like the distance, so
993
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:55.960
she's like trying to break through the ice. And then
994
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:58.440
when she stands, it's just like her face her hair
995
00:48:58.519 --> 00:48:59.840
is like the only color in this thing, and it
996
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.920
falls through. And I feel like the blood kind of
997
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.039
did a thing as well, where it was like contrasting.
998
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.880
I don't know, it was probably far more symbolic than
999
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.639
I am capable of understanding, but there was something really
1000
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.159
stortying about how that seem was shot. Yeah, this whole
1001
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.159
episode actually really it was a gorgeous episode. Cheryl is
1002
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.480
under the water and she sees Jason's corpse and he
1003
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:25.559
has still Nope, he does reach menacingly towards her, and
1004
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.079
she screams under the water and as she does, Archie
1005
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.239
breaks through, grabs her, pulls her eyes. He's giving her
1006
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.039
a cpo. They cut the sound so we can see
1007
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.800
that Betty's screaming for help, but like no one's ryan.
1008
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.159
You can see jug heads like gone into shock. And
1009
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:46.320
then Cheryl coughs up water and she's conscious and she's alive.
1010
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.679
Archie carries her away. It's devastating, Like I think, it's
1011
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:56.320
such a heartbreaking scene, so genuinely harrowing. And she's at
1012
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.880
the lodges and Broanica gives her a hot chocolate and
1013
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.119
is like with peppermint the cure, And I'm like, should
1014
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:01.960
you be giving.
1015
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.199
Her alcohol right now? Like I get, but also it's
1016
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.960
going to get that it's warming.
1017
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.719
So like that still it's like her mental state probably
1018
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.239
dictates that you should not be doing this. It's just
1019
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.360
also so body should be ringing an ambulance. Here's your
1020
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.280
hot chocolate. It's like she could have like I don't know,
1021
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:23.480
hypothermia and you haven't taxed right, And also she needs help, Yeah,
1022
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:24.480
she needs help.
1023
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.719
Like Franca is like Shui, got some schnapps in there,
1024
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.440
and it's like your friend just tried to take her
1025
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:30.960
own life.
1026
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.960
Yeah, it's a pre meditated thing.
1027
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.079
Yeah, this is like, this is some time where you
1028
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.599
actually need to bring a hospital, you need to ring
1029
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.119
like obviously her mother's useless. So I'm not advocating for
1030
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:44.960
ring Pagard need to let a healthcare professional.
1031
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:49.000
No, because that's rich. She can afford private healthcare. They
1032
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.360
could find her like a therapist. She doesn't necessarily need
1033
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.400
to go through like a psychiatric system or whatever.
1034
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.679
But in fairness, I think it is an authentically teenage response,
1035
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:02.239
but it's as adults watching it, I'm like, please help her. Yeah,
1036
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.440
So Hermione walks in and is just really gunning for
1037
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:11.039
shittest person in the episode, maybe just under Penelope, because
1038
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.960
she's just like what is she doing here? And it's
1039
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.280
like Cheryl is sitting shivering clearly still like damp. Also,
1040
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.239
I'm like, Bronica dry her hair and get her different clothes, like,
1041
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:20.559
what the.
1042
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.480
Hell are you doing? She looks nice in the fur
1043
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.760
blanket in front of the fire.
1044
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:25.079
Ami.
1045
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.400
You see, it was an aesthetic choice, not is your
1046
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.440
brain choice. Yeah, and then.
1047
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.000
Bronica is like she had an accident, And even then
1048
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.480
Hermione should have been like, oh my god, this child
1049
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:38.840
has had an accident.
1050
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:39.639
Are you okay?
1051
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.039
Do you need to go to mad Golding? And Cheryl
1052
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.639
looks it up at her with this heartbreaking face and goes,
1053
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.079
I'll just warm up by the fire and then I'll go.
1054
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.320
And Hermione's like, fine, I'll give you a Bronica, I'll
1055
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.360
drive you to the jubilee. I'm like, are you telling
1056
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:55.400
her to leave now?
1057
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:56.920
Like when is the stubilee?
1058
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.920
Time is weird, but it's like basically she's like, okay, yeah,
1059
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:01.880
warm up and gat ite and we're just gonna leave
1060
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:02.280
you here.
1061
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:02.760
Yeah.
1062
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.000
It is so shitty how to treat anyone.
1063
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.199
But it's just like acid. And even if Cheryl didn't
1064
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:11.119
want to say, she could have said I fell into
1065
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.199
the river or like I fell into the ice or whatever,
1066
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.079
and then everybody goes, oh my god, and like, you know,
1067
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:16.800
that could have been a way to get her checked
1068
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.000
out at the hospital without having to like divulge or whatever.
1069
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.920
There was a way of getting her the help that
1070
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.039
she needed, but it was just the lack of interest.
1071
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.920
And it's really surprising to me because earlier in the season,
1072
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:31.079
Hermione and I feel like this is like showing the
1073
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.280
effects of Hiram on her mentally, because early in the season,
1074
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.280
Hermione was so receptive to Veronica's friends, even if she
1075
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:40.960
was a bit like, oh, I don't really want anything
1076
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.920
to do with these people, Like you know, she could
1077
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:44.840
see that their children were separate from them, whereas I
1078
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.119
the hims like imminently coming back. Hermione is like, don't care.
1079
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:52.519
She's taken in Polly, she supported Ethel like she has
1080
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:56.880
been very kind to people, and the coldness and again
1081
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.559
it's it's kind of like with Jocad, however, ins holding
1082
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.920
Jillkad responsible for what FP has done. She's walked in
1083
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.320
and gone, why is a blossom here? Because we have
1084
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.239
a few with the blossoms, And it's like that is
1085
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.920
a shiver, Like you should have nothing but sympathy for
1086
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:14.639
Cheryl because you know she's the child of two absolute sociopaths.
1087
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:15.760
Yeah, be kind.
1088
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.199
Bronica's just like I've already got a ride with Archie
1089
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:26.199
Lady Macbeth and is just spacey, like, yeah, I really enjoyed.
1090
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:29.119
Bronaca has some great lines in this episode. So Betty
1091
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.760
is applying her Cover Girl cosmetics for the You Believe.
1092
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.280
It's so funny. I know they stop with the product basements,
1093
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.880
but it has been so beautifully consistent where it's like
1094
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.119
cover Girl anyway back to You Believe.
1095
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.960
Yeah, So no one has informed any medical professionals that
1096
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.639
Cheryl has attempted suicide, but Betty just tell her mom
1097
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.119
that she's nervous about Jughead and how he's moving in
1098
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.039
with faster family and transferring skills and she's afraid it'll
1099
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:58.639
change things. And again like it's like we said, the
1100
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:03.320
stakes are equal here. So Cheryl having her quote unquote accident,
1101
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.360
as Branca called it is equal weight to your head
1102
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.159
moving and you're being worried about that. So Archie's trying
1103
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.199
to play guitar with like a broken hand, and then
1104
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.679
Branca is like a yokahun and he's like, yeah, I
1105
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.760
played the whole season with the taped of hand. Didn't
1106
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.519
tell anyone, And I'm like that's actually foreshadowing because you
1107
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.000
also haven't told anyone in your hand is literally broken
1108
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:23.800
at this moment.
1109
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:24.599
Meta.
1110
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.719
And then it's like, look are you okay? And she's
1111
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.119
like you look one mirror side side, Hi, you were
1112
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.840
looking at Betty and Juggah head very wistfully and like
1113
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.679
is there still feelings there? And he's like no, I
1114
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.719
was thinking how I want to be that for you?
1115
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:41.480
And they kiss and Josie is like a hem and
1116
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.719
they turn around and all the pussycats is standing there,
1117
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:50.199
including let's not forget fal girlfriend of like recently yea
1118
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.199
possibly a while ago. We don't know how time works,
1119
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.559
so it's like I would say, even if it's not
1120
00:54:56.719 --> 00:55:01.639
in November, it's on it's December now, we're talking like
1121
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:02.960
maximum two months.
1122
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.400
It could be two weeks, we don't know. But he's
1123
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.119
literally just broken up but actually just gotten dumped by that. Yeah.
1124
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.400
And then Josie's like, we heard what happened to Cheryl,
1125
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.679
so you can sing your song now, and I'm like,
1126
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.159
I just I have so many questions. I'm like, okay,
1127
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:28.920
so Archie get to sing song. Because Archie friend nearly die.
1128
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.199
I think it's Archie's saved girl, so Archie get rewarded.
1129
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:34.960
I think it's the logic. I think they're like, Archie
1130
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.960
saved girl. Yeah, Artie deserves to be hero over Verell
1131
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:40.840
my noteless, she said.
1132
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.400
Josie says they can do his song because Cheryl tried
1133
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.079
to kill herself. Doesn't literally would?
1134
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.880
I mean? I know that I took it out. I
1135
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:49.320
don't think.
1136
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:51.599
Yeah. I think it is a hey, look, I think
1137
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.599
it's her recognizing everyone has gone through something and actually
1138
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.440
her song about people going through a hard time will
1139
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.800
be meaningful to people side of just your group of friends.
1140
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.679
But again, they just really shot that dialogue to really
1141
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:11.480
just get straight to the point. Oh my god, I
1142
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.320
just I laughed so hard, like I shouldn't have laughed
1143
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.880
because of like the circumstances. It was just so like, hey,
1144
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.320
we heard what happened to Cheryl. You can sing your
1145
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.320
song now? And I was like, how did you get
1146
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:23.000
from A to B?
1147
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.039
I know that Josie said we It's been long established
1148
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.239
that Josie doesn't really do we Yeah, so did she decide?
1149
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:32.880
And then because it's.
1150
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.159
Still when did they learn this song?
1151
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:37.320
I don't.
1152
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.159
I'm no musician. I can't sing happy Birthday and gee.
1153
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:44.440
I'm definitely not as hauntingly as.
1154
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:48.039
Benny anyway, but like, I'm pretty certain musicians need to
1155
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.159
practice a song and at least.
1156
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.360
Like at least once. Yeah, I don't know.
1157
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.079
Yeah, it's so funny. We get a musical number. Then
1158
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.679
Archie is center stage and Uncle I find hard to
1159
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.039
believe because Josie would not be a backup singer for Archie.
1160
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.480
They're wedding that shit. Yeah, and that was really weird
1161
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.000
because Veronica is also on that stage, vowels over on
1162
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.000
her own playing the keys. I'm like, I just don't
1163
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.000
get the vibe. The vowel is chill with this. It
1164
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.719
seems like she's really she's angrily hitting that keyboard.
1165
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.320
Oh yea, she's one second way from picking up that
1166
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.400
keyboard and hitting Archie with that and like other art.
1167
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:26.800
But yeah, it's just there was some things about it
1168
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.159
that didn't quite ring true to me, given the themes
1169
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.079
of previous episodes where he has muscled in on the Pussycats.
1170
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.079
I think Josie offering to do his song was the
1171
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.119
extent of her goodwill. I don't think she'd be like,
1172
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:41.679
I will be a backup singer.
1173
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.800
Yeah, No, absolutely not like I could see her going,
1174
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.039
I will sing your song as a gift to you.
1175
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.119
That is more Josie. So we could from the musical
1176
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.519
number to we see jo Head at the present because
1177
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:58.960
the sheriff has asked a child to convince his.
1178
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.840
Father to turn and people in, and FP basically.
1179
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.559
Is like both options suck and jugheads is like, look,
1180
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.679
I just wanted you to know that I'm going to
1181
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.960
be okay. The Foster family seems nice. Yeah, outside Hi
1182
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.280
is a high school, has jock spernits and nerds, and
1183
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.519
I'm assuming that that's a breakfast club reference. So FP
1184
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.559
is like, look, I need you to know I am
1185
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.760
more innocent than I am guilty. But I have done
1186
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.079
stupid stuff and I need to pay the consequences for that.
1187
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:30.800
And he tells Juga to be there for his mum
1188
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.719
jelly Bean, and I'm like, fuck that bitch, Okay, fine.
1189
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:34.239
Not deserve it.
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00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.719
He's my language, But like, I don't know, I need
1191
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.239
to rephrase that. I'm like, how dare she like be
1192
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:45.239
there for your sister? But his mother turned him away
1193
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.159
when he desperately needed her. She does not He does
1194
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.119
not owe that woman a thing like absolutely be there
1195
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.559
for your sister not that, but because they don't deserve him.
1196
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.400
So Juke gets from the prison to see Eddie do
1197
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.079
her speech and she gives a partfelt speech about how
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00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:08.480
FP Jones is Riverdale. Everybody, Yeah, everybody is Riverdale. Yeah,
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00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.599
And it was very like you know when you get
1200
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:11.920
a piece of crying and you get a piece of
1201
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:13.480
crime from like mean girls, because it's.
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00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.199
People like Archie and Kevin.
1203
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.639
And then it's like f Pie Jones is Riverdale and
1204
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:19.679
she's like, we were so quick to blame him, and
1205
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.599
then she says the Jughead Jones is the soul of Riverdale,
1206
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.079
that without him we wouldn't have find out what happened
1207
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.519
to Jason, but that they've panked him by banishing him,
1208
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:30.719
and that's all we do with the truth when it
1209
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.400
gets to ugly in Riverdale. And then she's like Clifford
1210
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.400
Blossom was also Riverdale, and basically she's like, we need
1211
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.519
to take a look at ourselves and who we are
1212
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:42.320
and face the reality that Riverdale must do better. And
1213
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.960
then it's just silence, and then Jugheads starts clapping, and
1214
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.039
then everyone does the clapping, and then there's a standing
1215
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:52.039
ovation and Fred is like, hey, Hermione not selling Eddie's right,
1216
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.400
like Riverdale's a crossroads, and he's like, so are you,
1217
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.519
and he'll see her work. So I think that's his
1218
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.719
way of kind of being like, you also need to
1219
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.960
sign whether to keep doing the crime things, and he's
1220
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:04.760
basically going to be there, I think, to try and
1221
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.079
hold her accountable to like not doing white color crime.
1222
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.719
And also it's kind of proving that he's not afraid
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01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:11.760
of him. Yeah.
1224
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.440
So the gang are in Pops having milkshakes and jugheads.
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01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.320
I tro starting here so like quite early, saying that
1226
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.960
they all felt that, at least in that booth they
1227
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:25.199
were safe. And then we cut Penelope coming home to Thornhill,
1228
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.960
calling Cheryl's name, and she finds her standing in a
1229
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.480
beautiful white drash short one different one to the one
1230
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:33.880
she found the river in in front of the fire,
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01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.840
holding a candlelabra stunning, and she turns around. It is
1232
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.320
so stunning, it is so Gothic, it is so dramatic,
1233
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.920
it is so Cheryl. She turns around and Penelope is like,
1234
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:46.599
what's that smell? And she goes gasoline, It's the only
1235
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.559
way we can start over, and then she yeats that
1236
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:54.800
candlabra onto the gasoline and sets all of Thornhill on fire. Beautiful,
1237
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.920
So we get kind of like a bit of a
1238
01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.679
montage somewhere like Jugheads and Betty are at peace trailer
1239
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.920
and joke Head says he cleaned up the trailer after
1240
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.360
the sheriff trashed us. As we've discussed before, the way
1241
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:08.519
that the police do this is really shitty and it
1242
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:11.480
is really sweet because it must taken joke Head hours
1243
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.920
and that place looks spotless. He has made to look
1244
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.639
perfect in case his dad was able to come home.
1245
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.119
And then Betty's like, look, we're not giving up on this,
1246
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.480
and he's like, that's why I love you. And then
1247
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.719
he's like, I love you, Betty Cooper, and she says
1248
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.679
she loves him back, and it was very sweet and
1249
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:32.440
m yes, I love them. And then we cut to
1250
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.679
Branica and Archie who have arrived at Branica's part, and
1251
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.000
he's like, what about your mom and she goes, well,
1252
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:41.039
after mixing reds and white with the Jubilee, she's probably
1253
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.519
in a valium and she's sleep and I don't think
1254
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.639
you should be mixing two types of wine and val
1255
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.880
stop that. Yeah, And then imagine Dragon's believer starts, and
1256
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.559
we just get a montage of sexy times between Archie
1257
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.840
and Bradica and Betty and Joke. Heead except Betty and
1258
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:01.159
Jog are interrupted by banging into and Petty's me. She like,
1259
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:04.800
it's my mother, which I find very funny, but it is.
1260
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.239
Actually the serpents. And also.
1261
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.360
I don't know he was going to be there. Were
1262
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.840
they just hoping for they staking and I did like
1263
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:15.880
someone see him go and ring everyone and be like quick,
1264
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:18.000
get to the trailer, but the open store in her
1265
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:21.639
dog barks and someone goes easy, hot Dog, he's family
1266
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.360
and hot Dog is the name of Jughead's dog in
1267
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:25.280
the comics.
1268
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.559
Ah, I'm pretty certainly.
1269
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.239
They basically gain the speech and they're like, your dad
1270
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.719
could have named names and he didn't, and they're like, serpents,
1271
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.039
take care of our own, we have your back, and
1272
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.360
they give him a jacket, and I'm like I would
1273
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.239
have been like sweet, amazing, merch love this amazing. So
1274
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.639
jug Head puts it on, but Betty's watching him, and
1275
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.599
I think it's supposed to be framed as a real
1276
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.760
Is this the beginning of Jughead going to the darker side? Yeah,
1277
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.320
because she kind of goes Juggy and it's like this
1278
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:57.679
really worried what are you doing kind of.
1279
01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.480
Thing and I love who He's like, I forgot you
1280
01:02:59.480 --> 01:02:59.800
were here.
1281
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.960
Yeah, Betty jesus, I'm like, dude, you were making out
1282
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.480
with her on the counter like thirty seconds ago. And
1283
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:08.199
then as well, it immediately cuts to Cheryl and Penelope
1284
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.519
watching porn Hillburn.
1285
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:11.800
Well, Cheryl is watching it and.
1286
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.360
Penelope is having an absolute like a fish.
1287
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.280
My favorite thing about that scene is Cheryles standing so
1288
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:19.519
still and she looks so like pleased with herself and
1289
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.679
like Alloy is like hitting on her, but like it's
1290
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.199
really ineffectual because obviously, like she's not really going to
1291
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:27.519
hit her, just like her hair is going to.
1292
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.239
So that next morning, Archie is putting on.
1293
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.400
Shirt for once again. She lost shirt briefly and now
1294
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:35.800
Archie has shirt again.
1295
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.280
And he's like, oh, I need to meet my dad
1296
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:40.519
a Pops. He always does that when he wants to
1297
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.920
talk about something serious. He gets to Pops. Bride is
1298
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.480
completely fine with the fact that his child did not
1299
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:51.039
come home and just calls him Casanova and I'm like, okay, cool, grant.
1300
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.679
Parenting styles are parenting styles, and Archie goes to wash
1301
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:58.239
his hands very hygienic, and comes out to find a
1302
01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:01.960
gunman holding up Pops. Archie's looking at Pops and the gunman.
1303
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.119
The gunman's like shaking Pop, and Archie looks over Fred
1304
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.320
and Freda's shaking's head like, for fuck's sake, do not
1305
01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.760
go running and start with.
1306
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:10.840
Your hero complex Archie for folk's sake.
1307
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:14.400
For four seconds, yeah, and Fred's standsi and then the
1308
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.840
gunman comes over it to Fred saying like, give.
1309
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.079
Me your walace, brandishing the gun Adam.
1310
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.559
So Archie runs between them and we hear a gun shot,
1311
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.840
and then we get a jug head's voiceover telling us
1312
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.440
that this act of violence was anything but random. As
1313
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.519
it cuts back and we see Fred Andrews lying on
1314
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.559
the floor of Pops shot bleeding, Archie holding him, and
1315
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:42.840
we get the like Riverdale title card, and that is
1316
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:44.239
the end of season one.
1317
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:48.800
Jesus, I remember, I remember watching this the first time round,
1318
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.719
and like that shot, the sound of that shot that
1319
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.480
come back to the scene where you don't know if
1320
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.519
it's Archie or Friend for like thirty seconds and then
1321
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:57.800
the cut back and you're like, oh shit, okay, so
1322
01:04:57.880 --> 01:04:59.960
this is going to be the intro to our next season,
1323
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.239
so this is going to be the case of who
1324
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:03.119
is the Black Hood.
1325
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.480
Yeah, I feel like we have some solid hints where
1326
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:11.599
season two is going, so probably the sight side tensions
1327
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:13.599
are going to be high. We're probably going to have
1328
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:16.760
a Jughead and the serpents and how that affects his
1329
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.559
relationship with Betty thing. We're going to have the return
1330
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.039
of Hireum, so Hireum. We still haven't seen Hiram, but
1331
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.400
we know he's this He's been this looming figure for
1332
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.599
all of season one, and we know he is on
1333
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:30.840
his way back to Riverdale.
1334
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:33.840
We know he is not clearly really slowly, because he's
1335
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.119
been coming back for how long at this point.
1336
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:38.760
Maybe they just haven't released him yet, like, and they
1337
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.480
know he's going to be released soon because I feel
1338
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:44.599
like Hiram Lodge does not walk, He shifts himself. So
1339
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.119
we have that. I think we'll still have more fall
1340
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:49.719
light with Cheryl, and then we'll have the thing of
1341
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.760
who shot Fred Andrews. And also Jokehead has just said
1342
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.320
that it was not a random act of violence, so
1343
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.039
not just who shot Fred Andrews, but why.
1344
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.280
Should why shot Fred Andrews. It's a very very good question.
1345
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:04.199
So yeah, so I think it's a really good way
1346
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:07.360
of setting up season two. How to Breverdale not being
1347
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.320
picked up for a second season, I think it would
1348
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:11.199
have been I mean, the stress landings, You'd be like,
1349
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.599
it is Frida alive. Yeah, but the majority of the
1350
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.800
main stories have been wrapped up, but they've left enough open.
1351
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:20.840
But I think it gives you a lot to be
1352
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:22.599
excited by finding more about it.
1353
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:22.880
Yeah.
1354
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.199
So it's also that we have FP's trial.
1355
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.119
Yeah, there's there's a lot to come, Like, if we
1356
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.199
really think about it, We've started out with Jason Boston's murder,
1357
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.159
Archie being groomed by a teacher, a bunch of relationships happening,
1358
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.360
kind of like really weaving in music football, musical football,
1359
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:41.480
of course, the real question of River. Nothing else matters.
1360
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:42.519
I had a great time.
1361
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.119
Yeah, I had a brilliant time. I enjoyed this a lot,
1362
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.199
especially because like I feel like I remembered so little
1363
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:50.880
of season one. It was and demands I don't I
1364
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:53.559
think every season I'm going to be like I remembered
1365
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.880
so little of this, Like I remember very key, unhinged
1366
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.880
moments from different and different seasons, but like in terms
1367
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.519
of overall, like even with season two. I remember kind
1368
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.840
of big things, but I've knowledgea how they get there
1369
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.599
or when or why or if it's even season two
1370
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:12.440
and it's good season two or is it season four?
1371
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.840
Who know? It's not me So I'm really enjoying reliving
1372
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.159
as season two.
1373
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.840
Season two is on the way. If you are listening
1374
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:25.159
and you would like to be on an episode of
1375
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:27.360
Previously on Riverdale, if you want to do your chos
1376
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:29.559
recap and then chat through the episode with us, we
1377
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:31.480
would love you to get in contact. Our email is
1378
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:34.440
previously on Riverdale at gmail dot com. Send us a
1379
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.559
message if there's an episode in particular you would like
1380
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.840
to be on. We're actively scouting for potential guests because
1381
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:42.280
we are going to shake things up in season two.
1382
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.679
We want people to come on and chat with us.
1383
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:48.639
You can have seen the show before, you can have
1384
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.400
never seen an episode of the show, whatever, whatever you enjoy.
1385
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:54.559
Yeah, and if you have any comments or questions or
1386
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:56.360
anything that you would like to hit us with, you
1387
01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.679
can send us an email again on Previously on riverdel
1388
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:01.800
at gmail dot com. We will answer them. I suppose
1389
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.360
they might do like a special episode if if we
1390
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.320
feel like we've got enough questions to warrant it.
1391
01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.920
Yeah, Courtney, where can we find you? On the Internet.
1392
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.159
On the Internet, you can find me at CS Writes Books,
1393
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.239
and I am primarily on Instagram, but I've also joined
1394
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.199
the Blue Blue Skies A Blue Sky Amy. Where can
1395
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:19.640
we find you?
1396
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:24.760
I am also on Instagram and in the Sky of
1397
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.279
Blue at Amy Clark and Wrights.
1398
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:28.560
So thank you so much.
1399
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:32.640
If you have listened to all of season one, thank
1400
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:34.960
you for sticking with us through.
1401
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:39.000
The highs and lows, be chaotic. It has been chaotic.
1402
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:41.479
I'm glad we did it. I am really looking forward
1403
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.960
to season two, and I'm just really pleased that you've
1404
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:46.479
all been on this journey with us.
1405
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.000
Yeah, thank you, but I mean we probably still would
1406
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.880
have recorded are talking to ourselves. It was so much
1407
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:56.760
nicer doing it for actual people who hopefully enjoy the
1408
01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:59.720
madness that is Robidel as much as we do. So
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01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.840
we will see you very shortly for season two.
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Bye h