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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior.
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Speaker 2: Reporter J P.
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Speaker 1: On your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 3: Huddle Up starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome in. It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on this Wednesday, busy show ahead as we get ready for preseason week number two. Here's what's coming up on the program. The last look at the Steelers Jaguars matchup from last week, looking ahead to Sunday's game in the Superdome as the Saints entertained the Jags. Some camp standouts. We'll get to some of those guys coming up. Big scrimmage coming up tomorrow for the Jaguars as well.
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Speaker 2: Shadrick with John Oser from the Honday Studios, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles and Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. Go to Field's Auto Dot Com. Bucky Good afternoon. What's up?
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Speaker 3: Well, So, my guys, how are we doing, how we doing?
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Speaker 5: It's a wonderful Wednesday. We getting it after what's happening.
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Speaker 2: I'm into it now, But I think we're in the dog days, Buck.
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Speaker 3: The dog days. What we're talking about with dog days?
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Speaker 2: Dog days of camp?
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Speaker 3: Oh not in the dog days. We're playing games. This is slow motion now. The hard time is when you're practicing without a game at the end of the week. At least you have a carrot dangling at the end of the stick.
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Speaker 6: Bucky.
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Speaker 7: Look you played, Bucky, you played when it was real. There's no dog days anymore. I mean, I mean, to me, until the radio season starts, it's sort of all all dog days. But they play a game like three practices in now, Bucky, You guys have to grind.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Like, so when JP's representing dog days, I'm like, what are we talking about. We're playing games and we got we've got mandatary time in the building, got to be out the building so many days during the week. I mean, look, I'm not I'm not bashing the way that it goes. I'm just saying I don't know if I would refersent as dog days.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's too aggressive.
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Speaker 7: Dog Days ended the last time they had to a day in twenty ten. You put the tombstone on dog Days?
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Speaker 2: What would you call it, John? Right now? We two.
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Speaker 3: Practice. I would call it practice.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's from I guess. I mean kinda and OTAs with kind of some paths on. I mean, it's it's all the same. We're not tackling to the ground, We're not doing all this stuff. I mean, it's it's a very structured dress rehearsal.
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Speaker 3: The games are real, though, The games are real.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get our since I was way off on the dog Days, let's get the let's get your final thoughts, Bucky. Coming out of that Steeler game. Overall, it felt like Liam Cohen the next time we talked with him, was just a little frustrated with especially on the defensive side, alignment, assignment, communication issues in the game. And the Steelers quarterbacks were as efficient as could be, and that's on the defensive side. There were some penalties on offense. It wasn't the cleanest all around game. Just kind of hearing from the head coach, what was your impression now looking at it?
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Speaker 3: A few days later, Look, I would agree with him.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't the cleanest operation on all three sides. But it's the first preseason game. Some of that is to be expected. New coaching staff, new playbook, and all of that. There's going to be of a bit of an acclimation period that they're going to have to go to. The great thing is they have a game this weekend to get better on the things that he messed up last week. But it's impositive to take out of it. You know, first offense had a scoring drive. Cam Little's kick certainly stands out. There were some individual performances that you can build upon. But if you're Liam Corn to you to hit kay coach, Yeah, you're frustrated, but you also so no, Hey, we have a few more weeks to get this cleaned up, because the most important part is we want to get to week one of the regular season trending upwards, meaning we feel good about where we're going. We have enough confidence to go into the game knowing, hey, man, this is a game that we can win. We should win because we're we're gonna play our best game of the season this week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Look, I always hesitate to try to write a book on a situation that was basically a third of a game, right, or like even less than that, it was a sixteenth of a game, which is how long you saw the starters. I kind of think for Liam Cohen, it's a good thing he saw a lot that he didn't like in terms of not having your cleats in the ground. We've heard that a lot this week. You know, the whole cleats in the ground thing, but you're sort of not being ready for the tempo.
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Speaker 6: Having a couple of penalties.
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Speaker 7: Early it absolutely gave him a chance to sort of get in there, you know what, and say this is not how we're going to play.
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Speaker 6: A teaching moment, if you will.
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Speaker 7: But I also my guess is when he went home that night after that first game, he had to like the fact that the offense overcame an early penalty. And to me, I thought the fact that the quarterback looked in control. It looked like he was making some reads. And I don't know enough about how to describe this scheme what you're looking for from the quarterback, but buck, yeah, I thought the fact that you saw Trevor it looked like, stay over his feet, keep the footwork, calm, follow his progressions in real time that looked like the first sniff of what you're looking for from him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that the one thing that stood out to me the quick rhythm throws the ball getting out of his hand very quickly to make a concerted effort to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers. Brian Simams Junior, Travis Hunter, Travis Cten, all of the blue chip players got touches on that dry And if we talk about the game, the game is really players overplays, and so regardless of what Liam was trying to craft, the intent of getting the ball to the best players made a lot of sense. And it's a blueprint to what the Jaguars want to do going forward and how they're gonna win games. Now there's some more things that they can get to and expand upon. But at the end of the day, I saw all of the notable names have a touch of too very very early in this game.
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Speaker 7: Is there anything Bucky? I don't make too much of it. But on the fourth down, fourth and what was one?
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Speaker 2: Two short? Yeah, really short?
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: They called the reverse right just yeah to figure.
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Speaker 2: Brown.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that shows me that.
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Speaker 7: If that's not a card, he's trying to hold that's gonna be part of what they do. Do you follow me, like in the preseason if that was a trick or some sort of gimmick, But that's gonna be part of it. And I thought he was trying to sort of show that, Hey, this is what we're gonna be. We're gonna be creative. The running game is going to include a lot of that as opposed to just turn around handing off to the back.
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Speaker 2: It was fourth and one, by the way, and and with Pete and I and Austin Lane on Monday, we're talking about the same thing, John, Like, that's not just a Jacksonville thing though, right, You're seeing that jet sweep handoff around the league.
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Speaker 6: I haven't seen it a lot here though, right right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah we have. We haven't seen it a lot here.
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Speaker 5: But and I'm gonna say this, and everyone can go to YouTube and look it up and try and get a feel for what this offense may be. I would say, try and pull up everything that you can find from the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen LA Rams. If you go back to that time where they talked about that offense, when one of the greatest offenses that we've seen Jert Goff, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Todd Gurley is very similar to the way this offense is operating. I'm not saying that Travis Ncienne is Tdd Gurley, but I'm saying there are a lot of things that the Rams did to help the quarterback get up and going, and it included a lot of fly sweep fly motion action to kind of work the team east and west while also having a downhill element. To me, this offense is going to be eerily similar to what that offense was early until they craft their own identity.
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Speaker 3: I think Liam Cohen, who.
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Speaker 5: Was an assistant where receiver coach during that time, I think he sees that that formula can work in Jacksonville and it may be a nice starting point for how this offense eventually evolves.
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Speaker 2: Plenty ahead, we'll get into Travis Hunters Night when we come back and get ready for the Jaguars five Case Sports Complex Challenge Saturday, August twenty third race through Jacksonville. You'll finish strong at five Star Ballpark the old Baseball Grounds and see your victory moment live on the big screen there. You can score up to six Jaguars home game tickets at a special lower rate as well. Run into the season with the Jags. Register it nine oh four six three three two thousand, or email ticketing at Jaguars dot com. John, you're gonna run that, right, No, he's not. That's a no from John on the five K back in the moment, it's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 3: You know it's it is intentional.
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Speaker 4: We have so many playmakers you want to get them all involved in early and like, guys get the rock and do something with it. So I think that is intentional for sure. And then there's times where the ball just kind of finds finds guys more than others. I think in games like this, obviously you want to see you want to spread the ball around, you want to get guys touches, get them going and kind of see what see what we can do.
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Speaker 3: But I thought the guy's a nice job.
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Speaker 4: Obviously we had the It's hard to really evaluate beyond that, but yeah, I thought you guys did a good job.
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Speaker 2: When their number was called Trevor Lawrence, you let it heard of him, quarterback for the Jaguars. After the game on Saturday against the Steelers, welcome back. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks, j P Shadwick, John Ozier, and Jacksonville. Bucky out in Los Angeles and Jags football is officially back. Be there as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter, Trevor Lawrence who you just heard from, and Liam Cohen take the field for the first time during the twenty twenty five season. The Jaguars take on the Panthers September seventh. Go to Jaguars dot Com slash tickets for Cold Nino four six three three two thousand. Bryce Young against Trevor Lawrence in Week one of the regular season coming up, and yes, Travis Hunter will be part of that. He was part of the game on Saturday Night Guys, with eleven official snaps on offense, eight on defense, not in consecutive drive, though he wasn't out there with the first team defense. Came on a little bit later on defense with two targets, two catches had to catch, wiped away with penalty and Bucky got his feet wet a little bit. That's a good step now, I think, I guess what would be a good next step for Travis Hunter.
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Speaker 5: More of the same, continue to figure out how to get him significant action on both sides of the ball while keeping him fresh and ready to go. I think being able to get eleven offensive snaps eight defensive snaps, I mean, it's pretty impressive that he was able to get so much time.
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Speaker 3: The thing that I saw on offense.
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Speaker 5: Offense is very natural form in terms of catching the ball and making things happen. He didn't get a chance to break a couple of tackle. I mean, he called a couple balls but didn't break a tackle, but you can see the fear factor that he can create.
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Speaker 3: With his quickness and explosiveness and those things.
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Speaker 5: Defensively, there's been a lot made of the mistackle in the run game, but I'm gonna tell you on a couple of those snaps when he was in coverage, he was right where he needed to be, and you could just see how easy all of this is because he's been doing it for so long.
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Speaker 3: Really excited about what we saw.
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Speaker 5: Even though the production doesn't jump off the page when you first look at it.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, it's one series on offense, and you can easily see if you can sort of take that series and imagine it spread out over the course of a game.
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Speaker 6: This is one series.
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Speaker 7: How many series you get in the game, JP about nine, if say eight. Well, on the next series, he may not catch a pass, but somewhere in there he's gonna break one of those downs. And somewhere in there, they're gonna have run enough plays to get some looks where they're not necessarily doubling him across the middle, and he breaks open across the middle. Like we've seen a lot in camp, he's gonna get his on offense and he's gonna make it happen. I could care less about the mistackle. You know, he could have played that, but that's the first thing you've seen out of him. He looks very natural out there. They have seventeen games. I would expect at some point three or four times he's gonna make a play defensively where he turns momentum around and he's gonna make people fearful on offense the entire time he's in there. If he's on the field, I don't worry about him making an impact. I don't know if his stats will be enough to satisfy the haters. You know about the haters, right.
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Speaker 3: Buck, I do understand about the.
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Speaker 6: Haters out there.
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Speaker 7: I think they're always gonna hate on Travis Hunter because stats may not Oh he's not living up to whatever. He looks like a guy who when he's on the field, the coordinator on the other side of the ball is gonna have to figure out where he is. And that is why I do not worry about him contributing in a significant way from the start.
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Speaker 6: I don't know what the stats will be, but he's in a.
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Speaker 2: Matter that certainly will. Travis Hunter getting his feet wet last week. We'll see what happens in the scrimmage. They've got the scrimmage of the practice field on Thursday, and then what they have in mind against the Saints coming up this Sunday at the Super Dome. I don't know. We'll come back in a moment and hey, I'm back all right anymore? Travis Hunter thoughts buck Uh.
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Speaker 3: No, I look.
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Speaker 5: I think John said like he'll never be able to satisfy the haters. The big thing for me is his comfort level and the coaches comfort level having a two way player. I think the coaches are more anxious about this experience or than Travis's and talking to Travis, Travis like, man, I've always done this, like I kind of know how to manage and handle everything. I think the coaches and coaches as we get up in levels, they micro manage and they worry about a little bit of everything. I think Travis is gonna make it very easy for them to just say, hey man, just let them go play. It may take five weeks, it may take eight weeks, but as some point this season, you just gonna see Number twelve run on and off the field as he feels comfortable being able to play on both sides.
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Speaker 2: Let's come back. We'll get into some position battles, including maybe a linebacker. What's gonna happen there for the Jaguars and we'll get some answer. Yeah, Jags fans want customize Jaggs furniture for your home. Check out zipchare dot com and browse all customizable options Zip Chair furniture for fans. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks. Welcome back. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks. In this season, We're bringing the heat with four chances to see the legendary Prowler throwback uniforms hit the field. That's right, not one, not two, not three, four games one iconic look. Don't miss your chance to witness history in the making again and again and again and again. Get your tickets at Jaguars dot com slash tickets the three divisional games and then the Kansas City Chiefs game on Monday Night Football. The four games, JP Shaddick, John Osier John can count to four. Fucky Brooks also can time out for defensive coverage of the game, presented by g eh and Let's let's take a look at the linebacker group for the Jaguars and coming out of the first game, the first preseason game. We know about the names that are there, the guys that were expected or are expected. Voyer, Luiken, Devin Lloyd, Intro Miller has contributed there in the past. Dennis Gardex a new addition, eight year veteran player in the NFL who's coming off a knee injury. But he didn't play in the game last week. So, Bucky, where do you stand at linebacker right now? There's still a lot of preseason to be done to figure out some stuff.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think the names that you mentioned are guys that you can probably write their name in penn on the dep chart. Everybody else is subject to an evaluation that will continue through Week two and week three. The big thing is, and we've said this about our special teams units heath BALLWELTOMPS, and they do a great job of getting our guys ready to play. The guys that are backups, they're going to need to be able to be special team standouts. That is what separates those who make the team and those who don't. You have to be able to trust that if you're a backup and we give your jersey on Sundays, you have to be able to find a role to thrive and excel in on Sundays. And so these guys over the next two weeks, they got to make a convinsing and compelling case that they're worthy of being a backup because of what they do as special teamers and also what they provide as a backup player positionwise.
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Speaker 7: And Bucky, I admit, you know, during practice it's sometimes hard for me to figure this out because it's hard to know what defensive look that they're in from our vantage point.
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Speaker 6: There's so much going on.
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Speaker 7: But could some of the linebacker situation be if they're in a certain package, they're going to play certain guys and if there are in other packages that are going to play other guys between maybe you see Abdulah Miller, Lloyd Foyer. Is there any of that?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean I think they want to be able to be a team that is diverse in terms of how they approach it. And the more good players that can play, the more creative you will get as a play caller to put them on the field to give them opportunities to impact the game. And so as you talk about having different looks in different combinations, a lot of it comes down to what do they show us in preseason game and practices where we feel like certain players can excel in a given role, and the more guys that can excel as specialists, the more packages that you create to allow.
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Speaker 3: Them to impact the game. But a lot of it is player driven.
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Speaker 5: But these guys that have an opportunity continue to have the opportunity to short in practice, were brilliant games that they have something that they underverg of mastering, and then when you have masters, you put them out there and allowed them to thrive in those roles.
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Speaker 2: All right, while we're talking about position battles, I mean there's a few of them that are still up in the air. Certainly safety spots. Both of those running back situation. Well, we've talked about that throughout training camp. That could just be what it is, especially early in the season. But where are they on the offensive line John right now? And you know, it feels like there could be. And they worked in the scrimmage the other week where they put guys in different places. Anton Harrison's playing left tackle at one point. This is far from over on the O.
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Speaker 6: Line, yet it sort of feels like it's walk a little left.
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Speaker 7: Anton right, Ezra Cleveland left, and Hainesy center, unless somebody's sort of knocked one of those guys off the perch, which probably is still to be told. But that sort of feels like chalk right now. And maybe it just feels that way to me because I've sort of I sort of considered that chalk, and I haven't I haven't really seen enough happen to make me think it's not a Dooga and McCary. It feels to me like there's a decent chance a Doga is the guy, more so than we thought a couple of weeks ago, because McCary is so versatile behind him. But that's just sort of my thought based on what I've seen in practice, and it's always important to clarify something like that by saying not every person sees every practice the same way because there's so much going on. So I think Bucky, if they have McCarry as the start, I mean as the backup, they're in great shape because he's so versatile.
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Speaker 6: And can play so many other positions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think the versatility helps.
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Speaker 5: The more guys that can operate in that swing space provides you with comfort on game day. We talk about the numbers game that happens on game day in terms of the numbers guys that are activated versus down. Most offensive lines have eight guys that they carry. Well, depending on the versatility of others, you can either carry more or fewer going into a game. So all of it is in play. But I do think versatility is a huge asset. And then I will say this, look, man, for the Jaguars to be the running team that Liam Cohen talks about, you gotta have some ask because up front, you got to have some guys that want to do that part of it too. So as much as I would love to talk about the execution, whatever, the effort to energy, some of that has to be a part of the equation as well.
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Speaker 2: I like that pretty straightforward. Gotta have some ass. That's the line on a podcast that's in many phases of life. Actually it has to be that way.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it has to be that way.
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Speaker 5: If we're gonna be a little edgy, you gotta have a little edge us and that typically comes from the offensive and defensive lines.
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Speaker 7: Bucky, is there anything to this? I've been saying on a couple of forums all week, So tell me if I'm wrong, and you know I've been wrong before. But the touchdown in the second half, when they sort of helped tooting into the end zone. I get that it was against backups. I gave it was backup offensive lineman. But to me, that had a feel of Liam Cohen has talked about that all off season, all during training camp. They want to be able to run the ball, they want that aggressiveness and then the excitement after they got in. Is there anything too that, Hey, this is what we want to be. We did it is what we talked about. That just had a feel of a culture type play, even though a bunch of guys who may not be part of the culture were the ones.
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Speaker 5: Making absolutely and I think those guys take their cues from the guys that are listed in front of them. They may be the starters, but the backups fall in line. And what you saw is definitely an attitude play. And as you talk about the culture and what the Jaguars aspired to be physically as a running team, Uh yeah, you gotta.
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Speaker 3: Have some of that.
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Speaker 5: It's always easy to tell your player's whoa rather than giddy up and.
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Speaker 3: What we saw on that play. We had to slow them down a little bit because of the pushing.
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Speaker 5: But I dig that, and that is something that you certainly want to build off of if you're a Damn Coin and company.
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Speaker 7: It's become kind of a go to phrase for Bucky. Ye see, if you were defining Bucky, it's the woe giddy up and alogy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty come on.
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Speaker 3: We gotta get them, gotta get them going, gotta get him going.
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Speaker 2: It makes sense though. I mean, you know, I'm sure once the regular season hits, Bucky's gonna pull out like five new ones.
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Speaker 3: Oh He'll I get some more things in the back.
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Speaker 5: I guess some more things in the back, just like you pulled out the beard, like for for training camp, the dog days of training camp. Evidently you pulled out the beard. Maybe I had some other stuff when we get into the dog days of the regular season. That's just great. We're back in a moment our final thoughts. Uh, we'll hear from Cam Little when we come back. Jaguars kicker made a seventy yarder. You might have heard about it last week.
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Speaker 2: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 8: I was kind of me and Logan were like, we want to kick if we want to kick in st when you gave me the opportunity is obviously you know you go out there and you want to at least to make sure you get it there, to make sure it's not okay. Well, we're not gonna throw them back out there for another.
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Speaker 3: Deep field like that.
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Speaker 2: But we went out there and adrenaline is a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 8: But yeah, we went out there next to dude.
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Speaker 2: Cam Little with a big kick seventy yarder against the Pittsburgh Steelers last week. Welcome back. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury autogroup. Go to Fieldsauto Dot com and it is the longest field goal in any kind of NFL game, but not the official NFL record, That is sixty six yards by Justin Tucker of the Ravens back in twenty twenty one that actually hit the crossbar in Detroit and went through. There was also a sixty six yarder last preseason by Brandon Aubrey of the Cowboys, who has a sixty five yarder in the regular season that year also, but cam Little from seventy is unheard of. Janikowski I think tried one at one point from seventy six. It wasn't close. There have been some other lengthy tries, but nothing like this, and we'll see it has. Obviously, Bucky, the situation has to be right end of a half, end of a game, when you kind of need it and you know you're not gonna give the ball up and at the plus forty for the other team, you know, in the middle of a game, you're not gonna hit a seventy yard field goal.
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Speaker 3: No, you're not gonna do that.
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Speaker 5: And it's one of those things just really kind of crazy to watch because being on the call, Brian Sexton kind of setting it up and obviously he knew more than I knew about Cam Little making a seventy two yard and practice all of those things. So when I'm thinking in the past scenarios, my mind is conditioned to think thirty five to forty yard line that gives you a reasonable kick or whatever. At no point during my process can I think about the ball being on the other side of the fifty and yeah, let's try to kick her out there and let him.
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Speaker 3: See if he can make it.
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking of all the bad scenarios. Man, this dude's gonna hurt himself trying to blow this out. But it was an unbelievable kick. It is what I want my golf drives to look like in terms of how it sounded coming off the foot.
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Speaker 3: I want my t shot.
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Speaker 5: To sound like that hitting the club or the driver. I mean, because it was a boot and you knew midweight mid flight, like, oh man, this has a chance and he struck it clean. Great jobbing back to cuting it by Cam Little, and it is a game changing when you think about game planning and executing the plan, knowing that you have a weapon at kicker that really expands the scoring zone for the.
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Speaker 2: Jets and the jersey and the cleat were sent to Canton, Ohio today. I saw that on JAG's social media earlier today, but not.
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Speaker 7: The football because you can't ask for it or did we just they're like, what is next week?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 7: And it should be that's cool. I mean, it certainly changes the line the game, and it it makes you wonder a little bit like where their trust for mid quarter kicks starts. Usually that would have been fifty seven you know or.
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Speaker 2: You know well, and conditions coming to play too.
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Speaker 7: But if you're from seventy two at the end, it makes you think that sixty sixty one uhould be unheard of from mid quarter. But as Cam talked about after the game, fifty two is supposed to happen now, like that's supposed to be not even a thought.
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Speaker 6: How far back do they feel.
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Speaker 7: Good about Cam mid quarter where they don't feel like there's a risk of does the risk outweigh the reward all that comes in. I think it's going to be further back than people would expect. It wouldn't surprise me to see him trotting him out there from fifty seven to fifty eight after regular drives.
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Speaker 6: I think they think he's he's just going to hit it.
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Speaker 7: When he walked out there, Bucky, I know you haven't watched him a whole lot. My first thought was I wouldn't be surprised if he hits this, and so as it was going through, I didn't have the oh my goodness, I was like, oh, okay, Cam just hit a seventy yard cool.
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Speaker 5: I mean maybe because you're previously seeing it more than others, but it is weird seeing the ball set up on the other side of the fifty and you're taking a long distance swing at it, like what it does working backwards. And then I'll get to your think what it does for limb in two minute situations end up half end of the game.
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Speaker 3: It gives you.
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Speaker 5: Maybe a more aggressive approach with so you get the ball back with nineteen twenty seconds left. Well now before you used to think, oh, I get to get to the opposite forty to get there. Well, for the defense, they also have to change the way that they play, which makes them more vulnerable and susceptible to big plays because what used to be old playback doesn't have ten to fifteen. Maybe they'll take an help Mary shot for the Jags, it's soft coverage. Great, that'll give us a three point opportunity. Then in middle of the quarter, I still think it stays the same. Your target line is the thirty five or forty yard line on the field, which maybe pushes it back off the balls on the forty that's a fifty.
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Speaker 3: Seven yard er.
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Speaker 6: That's probably I think that's yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think that's more in play now.
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Speaker 5: But you think about it, John, if you're able to get a touchback with a new dynamic kickoff, you talk about the thirty five yard line, fifteen yards to the fifty whatever, you get two first downs, you're now beginning to talk about a win field goal range.
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Speaker 3: Like it just changes.
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Speaker 5: It changes some of the play called and approach where you can be more aggressive on the front end of it to give yourself a chance to score points.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 7: You get a touch back and the other team takes the lead. What with fifteen seconds ago. If there's a touchback, you're absolutely one pass away from.
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Speaker 6: Having a chance.
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Speaker 7: So it will make that a little more strategic. How teams kick off in that situation, I would guess. So it's commission to see us play out. It's hard to visualize it, but seeing it play out. It's gonna be fascinating.
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Speaker 2: And then another part of this too is a mid quarter. They also have another specialist who can pin the other team deep if needed. I mean, Logan Cook had only three touchbacks last year, right, I mean, so he is as locked in as anybody else as well. So that's a choice. Okay, we're gonna pin them deep and there's our defense playing well, and or do we try for the three and you know, a mid fifties three instead. I mean, it depends on the distance to go. All that comes into play here. Fuck.
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Speaker 7: And there was a real reaction Bucky when he made it. And I don't know how to find I don't know how to define boyish enthusiasm, but there was certainly, I thought the reaction of the players. I get that you're going to be excited about a seventy yarder and you and you've seen history and all that, but there did seem Travis Hunter almost leaped over the stadium wall. Uh you know, but he wasn't the only one. There was a real joy in it that Maybe it speaks to how much they like Cam. Maybe they liked the uh you know, the serial commercially shot for us or whatever. But there was something real there about the joy in that it was kind of cool to see. I don't know what it translates to, but I think it matters.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think in the we've all been around teams where the kicker was off on an island and not really a part of the team.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 5: Cam has earned the respect of his teammates where he is fully into the team fabric. So has Logan Cook and those other guys. And the thing that I was gonna say, not like And this is unique in terms we always talk about three phases of football, offense, defense, special teams. The Jaguars have an opportunity to use that special teams unit as a deciding factor.
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Speaker 3: In games, and it is a huge.
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Speaker 5: Hidden weapon that can help this team really make a climb up the charts.
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Speaker 3: You know, we talked.
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Speaker 5: About the league being the league that's a one score league where games, most games on Sundays come down to eight points of fewer. Well, now, if you're a proficient nail and field goals and great in the field position game, because Logan Cook understands how to play the coffin corner, it gives the Jaguars an opportunity to maybe knock off some teams that would be viewed as better than them on paper, but they're able to even it up a little bit with his kicking units.
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Speaker 7: And credit to Heath Farwell too, jpca Remember you were around when they were talking about when they drafted him.
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Speaker 6: It was not a given that cam Little.
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Speaker 7: Was the best kicker in that draft. Heath went out and Heath heavily influenced the call to draft him because he looked at him and he believed in this kid. So he'd have been somewhere, but maybe not here. And so some credit Heath fallwell on that.
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Speaker 2: Jaguar Saints coming up this Sunday. It's one o'clock eastern kickoff the Caesar super Dome. The Jags have a scrimmage on the practice field tomorrow, John.
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Speaker 6: I've never seen that before. I've ever seen a second scrimmage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see how intense they go Bucky tomorrow and how many reps are in and does that affect things for Sunday. We'll find out. I guess no.
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Speaker 3: I like that. The only way to get ready to play ball is to play ball.
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Speaker 5: And if you're not going to play your starters, presumably a Ton in these games, you have to get them some live reps, even.
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Speaker 3: If it's in a controlled environment. This is Look, it's a unique opportunity to do that.
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Speaker 5: But because the Jaguars missed out on having multiple joint practice sessions, this is a way to make up for that.
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Speaker 7: And I wonder if you're not going to see this a little more moving forward, Bucky, especially once they go to eighteen, if they indeed go to eighteen. Just the coach is trying to figure out some way and maybe it's a first year head coach thing when this see the guys more in live action or something close to it. But the more you cut back preseason, as much as fans don't like preseason for you know, and Bucket can speak this better than I can, you need evaluating points. You need time to valuate these guys. And four preseason games was really important to talent evaluators and to roster builders. And maybe this is a way of trying to get one more point of that back.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's important.
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Speaker 5: Look, it's important because anytime you can get the live reps in the action, you want to do that because we are evaluating players. This is an evaluation period as much as we're trying to fast forward and get to the regular season. You want to make sure that you do a comprehensive evaluation of your team to make sure you don't miss out on anybody.
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Speaker 3: So I applaw them.
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Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea to have a scrimmage because you still can have a quick whistle and control it to a point. You have the scrimmage, you have a preseason game. A lot of ball in one week, a lot of dog days, a lot.
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Speaker 2: Of talking ball in the dog days. That's what we've done today, Bucky. We'll talk to you in New Orleans. I guess the Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to rest and recover dog days of podcasting, so I'm trying to get ready for the game.
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Speaker 2: That's enough out of you today. I know your name's on the show, but that's Bucky Brooks, seod Oser, I'm J P. Shadrick. Thanks to our entire crew, Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato, Tyler Stidham doing huge work today. This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: Welcome in. It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on this Wednesday, busy show ahead as we get ready for preseason week number two. Here's what's coming up on the program. The last look at the Steelers Jaguars matchup from last week, looking ahead to Sunday's game in the Superdome as the Saints entertained the Jags. Some camp standouts. We'll get to some of those guys coming up. Big scrimmage coming up tomorrow for the Jaguars as well.
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Speaker 2: Shadrick with John Oser from the Honday Studios, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles and Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. Go to Field's Auto Dot Com. Bucky Good afternoon. What's up?
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Speaker 3: Well, So, my guys, how are we doing, how we doing?
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Speaker 5: It's a wonderful Wednesday. We getting it after what's happening.
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Speaker 2: I'm into it now, But I think we're in the dog days, Buck.
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Speaker 3: The dog days. What we're talking about with dog days?
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Speaker 2: Dog days of camp?
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Speaker 3: Oh not in the dog days. We're playing games. This is slow motion now. The hard time is when you're practicing without a game at the end of the week. At least you have a carrot dangling at the end of the stick.
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Speaker 6: Bucky.
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Speaker 7: Look you played, Bucky, you played when it was real. There's no dog days anymore. I mean, I mean, to me, until the radio season starts, it's sort of all all dog days. But they play a game like three practices in now, Bucky, You guys have to grind.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Like, so when JP's representing dog days, I'm like, what are we talking about. We're playing games and we got we've got mandatary time in the building, got to be out the building so many days during the week. I mean, look, I'm not I'm not bashing the way that it goes. I'm just saying I don't know if I would refersent as dog days.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's too aggressive.
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Speaker 7: Dog Days ended the last time they had to a day in twenty ten. You put the tombstone on dog Days?
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Speaker 2: What would you call it, John? Right now? We two.
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Speaker 3: Practice. I would call it practice.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's from I guess. I mean kinda and OTAs with kind of some paths on. I mean, it's it's all the same. We're not tackling to the ground, We're not doing all this stuff. I mean, it's it's a very structured dress rehearsal.
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Speaker 3: The games are real, though, The games are real.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get our since I was way off on the dog Days, let's get the let's get your final thoughts, Bucky. Coming out of that Steeler game. Overall, it felt like Liam Cohen the next time we talked with him, was just a little frustrated with especially on the defensive side, alignment, assignment, communication issues in the game. And the Steelers quarterbacks were as efficient as could be, and that's on the defensive side. There were some penalties on offense. It wasn't the cleanest all around game. Just kind of hearing from the head coach, what was your impression now looking at it?
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Speaker 3: A few days later, Look, I would agree with him.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't the cleanest operation on all three sides. But it's the first preseason game. Some of that is to be expected. New coaching staff, new playbook, and all of that. There's going to be of a bit of an acclimation period that they're going to have to go to. The great thing is they have a game this weekend to get better on the things that he messed up last week. But it's impositive to take out of it. You know, first offense had a scoring drive. Cam Little's kick certainly stands out. There were some individual performances that you can build upon. But if you're Liam Corn to you to hit kay coach, Yeah, you're frustrated, but you also so no, Hey, we have a few more weeks to get this cleaned up, because the most important part is we want to get to week one of the regular season trending upwards, meaning we feel good about where we're going. We have enough confidence to go into the game knowing, hey, man, this is a game that we can win. We should win because we're we're gonna play our best game of the season this week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Look, I always hesitate to try to write a book on a situation that was basically a third of a game, right, or like even less than that, it was a sixteenth of a game, which is how long you saw the starters. I kind of think for Liam Cohen, it's a good thing he saw a lot that he didn't like in terms of not having your cleats in the ground. We've heard that a lot this week. You know, the whole cleats in the ground thing, but you're sort of not being ready for the tempo.
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Speaker 6: Having a couple of penalties.
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Speaker 7: Early it absolutely gave him a chance to sort of get in there, you know what, and say this is not how we're going to play.
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Speaker 6: A teaching moment, if you will.
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Speaker 7: But I also my guess is when he went home that night after that first game, he had to like the fact that the offense overcame an early penalty. And to me, I thought the fact that the quarterback looked in control. It looked like he was making some reads. And I don't know enough about how to describe this scheme what you're looking for from the quarterback, but buck, yeah, I thought the fact that you saw Trevor it looked like, stay over his feet, keep the footwork, calm, follow his progressions in real time that looked like the first sniff of what you're looking for from him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that the one thing that stood out to me the quick rhythm throws the ball getting out of his hand very quickly to make a concerted effort to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers. Brian Simams Junior, Travis Hunter, Travis Cten, all of the blue chip players got touches on that dry And if we talk about the game, the game is really players overplays, and so regardless of what Liam was trying to craft, the intent of getting the ball to the best players made a lot of sense. And it's a blueprint to what the Jaguars want to do going forward and how they're gonna win games. Now there's some more things that they can get to and expand upon. But at the end of the day, I saw all of the notable names have a touch of too very very early in this game.
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Speaker 7: Is there anything Bucky? I don't make too much of it. But on the fourth down, fourth and what was one?
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Speaker 2: Two short? Yeah, really short?
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: They called the reverse right just yeah to figure.
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Speaker 2: Brown.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that shows me that.
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Speaker 7: If that's not a card, he's trying to hold that's gonna be part of what they do. Do you follow me, like in the preseason if that was a trick or some sort of gimmick, But that's gonna be part of it. And I thought he was trying to sort of show that, Hey, this is what we're gonna be. We're gonna be creative. The running game is going to include a lot of that as opposed to just turn around handing off to the back.
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Speaker 2: It was fourth and one, by the way, and and with Pete and I and Austin Lane on Monday, we're talking about the same thing, John, Like, that's not just a Jacksonville thing though, right, You're seeing that jet sweep handoff around the league.
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Speaker 6: I haven't seen it a lot here though, right right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah we have. We haven't seen it a lot here.
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Speaker 5: But and I'm gonna say this, and everyone can go to YouTube and look it up and try and get a feel for what this offense may be. I would say, try and pull up everything that you can find from the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen LA Rams. If you go back to that time where they talked about that offense, when one of the greatest offenses that we've seen Jert Goff, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Todd Gurley is very similar to the way this offense is operating. I'm not saying that Travis Ncienne is Tdd Gurley, but I'm saying there are a lot of things that the Rams did to help the quarterback get up and going, and it included a lot of fly sweep fly motion action to kind of work the team east and west while also having a downhill element. To me, this offense is going to be eerily similar to what that offense was early until they craft their own identity.
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Speaker 3: I think Liam Cohen, who.
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Speaker 5: Was an assistant where receiver coach during that time, I think he sees that that formula can work in Jacksonville and it may be a nice starting point for how this offense eventually evolves.
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Speaker 3: You know it's it is intentional.
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Speaker 4: We have so many playmakers you want to get them all involved in early and like, guys get the rock and do something with it. So I think that is intentional for sure. And then there's times where the ball just kind of finds finds guys more than others. I think in games like this, obviously you want to see you want to spread the ball around, you want to get guys touches, get them going and kind of see what see what we can do.
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Speaker 3: But I thought the guy's a nice job.
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Speaker 4: Obviously we had the It's hard to really evaluate beyond that, but yeah, I thought you guys did a good job.
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Speaker 2: When their number was called Trevor Lawrence, you let it heard of him, quarterback for the Jaguars. After the game on Saturday against the Steelers, welcome back. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks, j P Shadwick, John Ozier, and Jacksonville. Bucky out in Los Angeles and Jags football is officially back. Be there as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter, Trevor Lawrence who you just heard from, and Liam Cohen take the field for the first time during the twenty twenty five season. The Jaguars take on the Panthers September seventh. Go to Jaguars dot Com slash tickets for Cold Nino four six three three two thousand. Bryce Young against Trevor Lawrence in Week one of the regular season coming up, and yes, Travis Hunter will be part of that. He was part of the game on Saturday Night Guys, with eleven official snaps on offense, eight on defense, not in consecutive drive, though he wasn't out there with the first team defense. Came on a little bit later on defense with two targets, two catches had to catch, wiped away with penalty and Bucky got his feet wet a little bit. That's a good step now, I think, I guess what would be a good next step for Travis Hunter.
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Speaker 5: More of the same, continue to figure out how to get him significant action on both sides of the ball while keeping him fresh and ready to go. I think being able to get eleven offensive snaps eight defensive snaps, I mean, it's pretty impressive that he was able to get so much time.
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Speaker 3: The thing that I saw on offense.
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Speaker 5: Offense is very natural form in terms of catching the ball and making things happen. He didn't get a chance to break a couple of tackle. I mean, he called a couple balls but didn't break a tackle, but you can see the fear factor that he can create.
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Speaker 3: With his quickness and explosiveness and those things.
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Speaker 5: Defensively, there's been a lot made of the mistackle in the run game, but I'm gonna tell you on a couple of those snaps when he was in coverage, he was right where he needed to be, and you could just see how easy all of this is because he's been doing it for so long.
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Speaker 3: Really excited about what we saw.
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Speaker 5: Even though the production doesn't jump off the page when you first look at it.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, it's one series on offense, and you can easily see if you can sort of take that series and imagine it spread out over the course of a game.
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Speaker 6: This is one series.
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Speaker 7: How many series you get in the game, JP about nine, if say eight. Well, on the next series, he may not catch a pass, but somewhere in there he's gonna break one of those downs. And somewhere in there, they're gonna have run enough plays to get some looks where they're not necessarily doubling him across the middle, and he breaks open across the middle. Like we've seen a lot in camp, he's gonna get his on offense and he's gonna make it happen. I could care less about the mistackle. You know, he could have played that, but that's the first thing you've seen out of him. He looks very natural out there. They have seventeen games. I would expect at some point three or four times he's gonna make a play defensively where he turns momentum around and he's gonna make people fearful on offense the entire time he's in there. If he's on the field, I don't worry about him making an impact. I don't know if his stats will be enough to satisfy the haters. You know about the haters, right.
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Speaker 3: Buck, I do understand about the.
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Speaker 6: Haters out there.
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Speaker 7: I think they're always gonna hate on Travis Hunter because stats may not Oh he's not living up to whatever. He looks like a guy who when he's on the field, the coordinator on the other side of the ball is gonna have to figure out where he is. And that is why I do not worry about him contributing in a significant way from the start.
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Speaker 6: I don't know what the stats will be, but he's in a.
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Speaker 2: Matter that certainly will. Travis Hunter getting his feet wet last week. We'll see what happens in the scrimmage. They've got the scrimmage of the practice field on Thursday, and then what they have in mind against the Saints coming up this Sunday at the Super Dome. I don't know. We'll come back in a moment and hey, I'm back all right anymore? Travis Hunter thoughts buck Uh.
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Speaker 3: No, I look.
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Speaker 5: I think John said like he'll never be able to satisfy the haters. The big thing for me is his comfort level and the coaches comfort level having a two way player. I think the coaches are more anxious about this experience or than Travis's and talking to Travis, Travis like, man, I've always done this, like I kind of know how to manage and handle everything. I think the coaches and coaches as we get up in levels, they micro manage and they worry about a little bit of everything. I think Travis is gonna make it very easy for them to just say, hey man, just let them go play. It may take five weeks, it may take eight weeks, but as some point this season, you just gonna see Number twelve run on and off the field as he feels comfortable being able to play on both sides.
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Speaker 2: Let's come back. We'll get into some position battles, including maybe a linebacker. What's gonna happen there for the Jaguars and we'll get some answer. Yeah, Jags fans want customize Jaggs furniture for your home. Check out zipchare dot com and browse all customizable options Zip Chair furniture for fans. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks. Welcome back. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks. In this season, We're bringing the heat with four chances to see the legendary Prowler throwback uniforms hit the field. That's right, not one, not two, not three, four games one iconic look. Don't miss your chance to witness history in the making again and again and again and again. Get your tickets at Jaguars dot com slash tickets the three divisional games and then the Kansas City Chiefs game on Monday Night Football. The four games, JP Shaddick, John Osier John can count to four. Fucky Brooks also can time out for defensive coverage of the game, presented by g eh and Let's let's take a look at the linebacker group for the Jaguars and coming out of the first game, the first preseason game. We know about the names that are there, the guys that were expected or are expected. Voyer, Luiken, Devin Lloyd, Intro Miller has contributed there in the past. Dennis Gardex a new addition, eight year veteran player in the NFL who's coming off a knee injury. But he didn't play in the game last week. So, Bucky, where do you stand at linebacker right now? There's still a lot of preseason to be done to figure out some stuff.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think the names that you mentioned are guys that you can probably write their name in penn on the dep chart. Everybody else is subject to an evaluation that will continue through Week two and week three. The big thing is, and we've said this about our special teams units heath BALLWELTOMPS, and they do a great job of getting our guys ready to play. The guys that are backups, they're going to need to be able to be special team standouts. That is what separates those who make the team and those who don't. You have to be able to trust that if you're a backup and we give your jersey on Sundays, you have to be able to find a role to thrive and excel in on Sundays. And so these guys over the next two weeks, they got to make a convinsing and compelling case that they're worthy of being a backup because of what they do as special teamers and also what they provide as a backup player positionwise.
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Speaker 7: And Bucky, I admit, you know, during practice it's sometimes hard for me to figure this out because it's hard to know what defensive look that they're in from our vantage point.
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Speaker 6: There's so much going on.
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Speaker 7: But could some of the linebacker situation be if they're in a certain package, they're going to play certain guys and if there are in other packages that are going to play other guys between maybe you see Abdulah Miller, Lloyd Foyer. Is there any of that?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean I think they want to be able to be a team that is diverse in terms of how they approach it. And the more good players that can play, the more creative you will get as a play caller to put them on the field to give them opportunities to impact the game. And so as you talk about having different looks in different combinations, a lot of it comes down to what do they show us in preseason game and practices where we feel like certain players can excel in a given role, and the more guys that can excel as specialists, the more packages that you create to allow.
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Speaker 3: Them to impact the game. But a lot of it is player driven.
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Speaker 5: But these guys that have an opportunity continue to have the opportunity to short in practice, were brilliant games that they have something that they underverg of mastering, and then when you have masters, you put them out there and allowed them to thrive in those roles.
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Speaker 2: All right, while we're talking about position battles, I mean there's a few of them that are still up in the air. Certainly safety spots. Both of those running back situation. Well, we've talked about that throughout training camp. That could just be what it is, especially early in the season. But where are they on the offensive line John right now? And you know, it feels like there could be. And they worked in the scrimmage the other week where they put guys in different places. Anton Harrison's playing left tackle at one point. This is far from over on the O.
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Speaker 6: Line, yet it sort of feels like it's walk a little left.
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Speaker 7: Anton right, Ezra Cleveland left, and Hainesy center, unless somebody's sort of knocked one of those guys off the perch, which probably is still to be told. But that sort of feels like chalk right now. And maybe it just feels that way to me because I've sort of I sort of considered that chalk, and I haven't I haven't really seen enough happen to make me think it's not a Dooga and McCary. It feels to me like there's a decent chance a Doga is the guy, more so than we thought a couple of weeks ago, because McCary is so versatile behind him. But that's just sort of my thought based on what I've seen in practice, and it's always important to clarify something like that by saying not every person sees every practice the same way because there's so much going on. So I think Bucky, if they have McCarry as the start, I mean as the backup, they're in great shape because he's so versatile.
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Speaker 6: And can play so many other positions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think the versatility helps.
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Speaker 5: The more guys that can operate in that swing space provides you with comfort on game day. We talk about the numbers game that happens on game day in terms of the numbers guys that are activated versus down. Most offensive lines have eight guys that they carry. Well, depending on the versatility of others, you can either carry more or fewer going into a game. So all of it is in play. But I do think versatility is a huge asset. And then I will say this, look, man, for the Jaguars to be the running team that Liam Cohen talks about, you gotta have some ask because up front, you got to have some guys that want to do that part of it too. So as much as I would love to talk about the execution, whatever, the effort to energy, some of that has to be a part of the equation as well.
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Speaker 2: I like that pretty straightforward. Gotta have some ass. That's the line on a podcast that's in many phases of life. Actually it has to be that way.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it has to be that way.
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Speaker 5: If we're gonna be a little edgy, you gotta have a little edge us and that typically comes from the offensive and defensive lines.
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Speaker 7: Bucky, is there anything to this? I've been saying on a couple of forums all week, So tell me if I'm wrong, and you know I've been wrong before. But the touchdown in the second half, when they sort of helped tooting into the end zone. I get that it was against backups. I gave it was backup offensive lineman. But to me, that had a feel of Liam Cohen has talked about that all off season, all during training camp. They want to be able to run the ball, they want that aggressiveness and then the excitement after they got in. Is there anything too that, Hey, this is what we want to be. We did it is what we talked about. That just had a feel of a culture type play, even though a bunch of guys who may not be part of the culture were the ones.
00:22:53
Speaker 5: Making absolutely and I think those guys take their cues from the guys that are listed in front of them. They may be the starters, but the backups fall in line. And what you saw is definitely an attitude play. And as you talk about the culture and what the Jaguars aspired to be physically as a running team, Uh yeah, you gotta.
00:23:14
Speaker 3: Have some of that.
00:23:16
Speaker 5: It's always easy to tell your player's whoa rather than giddy up and.
00:23:21
Speaker 3: What we saw on that play. We had to slow them down a little bit because of the pushing.
00:23:24
Speaker 5: But I dig that, and that is something that you certainly want to build off of if you're a Damn Coin and company.
00:23:29
Speaker 7: It's become kind of a go to phrase for Bucky. Ye see, if you were defining Bucky, it's the woe giddy up and alogy.
00:23:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty come on.
00:23:38
Speaker 3: We gotta get them, gotta get them going, gotta get him going.
00:23:41
Speaker 2: It makes sense though. I mean, you know, I'm sure once the regular season hits, Bucky's gonna pull out like five new ones.
00:23:49
Speaker 3: Oh He'll I get some more things in the back.
00:23:50
Speaker 5: I guess some more things in the back, just like you pulled out the beard, like for for training camp, the dog days of training camp. Evidently you pulled out the beard. Maybe I had some other stuff when we get into the dog days of the regular season. That's just great. We're back in a moment our final thoughts. Uh, we'll hear from Cam Little when we come back. Jaguars kicker made a seventy yarder. You might have heard about it last week.
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Speaker 2: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 8: I was kind of me and Logan were like, we want to kick if we want to kick in st when you gave me the opportunity is obviously you know you go out there and you want to at least to make sure you get it there, to make sure it's not okay. Well, we're not gonna throw them back out there for another.
00:24:35
Speaker 3: Deep field like that.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: But we went out there and adrenaline is a beautiful thing.
00:24:39
Speaker 8: But yeah, we went out there next to dude.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: Cam Little with a big kick seventy yarder against the Pittsburgh Steelers last week. Welcome back. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury autogroup. Go to Fieldsauto Dot com and it is the longest field goal in any kind of NFL game, but not the official NFL record, That is sixty six yards by Justin Tucker of the Ravens back in twenty twenty one that actually hit the crossbar in Detroit and went through. There was also a sixty six yarder last preseason by Brandon Aubrey of the Cowboys, who has a sixty five yarder in the regular season that year also, but cam Little from seventy is unheard of. Janikowski I think tried one at one point from seventy six. It wasn't close. There have been some other lengthy tries, but nothing like this, and we'll see it has. Obviously, Bucky, the situation has to be right end of a half, end of a game, when you kind of need it and you know you're not gonna give the ball up and at the plus forty for the other team, you know, in the middle of a game, you're not gonna hit a seventy yard field goal.
00:25:55
Speaker 3: No, you're not gonna do that.
00:25:56
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things just really kind of crazy to watch because being on the call, Brian Sexton kind of setting it up and obviously he knew more than I knew about Cam Little making a seventy two yard and practice all of those things. So when I'm thinking in the past scenarios, my mind is conditioned to think thirty five to forty yard line that gives you a reasonable kick or whatever. At no point during my process can I think about the ball being on the other side of the fifty and yeah, let's try to kick her out there and let him.
00:26:28
Speaker 3: See if he can make it.
00:26:30
Speaker 5: I'm thinking of all the bad scenarios. Man, this dude's gonna hurt himself trying to blow this out. But it was an unbelievable kick. It is what I want my golf drives to look like in terms of how it sounded coming off the foot.
00:26:44
Speaker 3: I want my t shot.
00:26:47
Speaker 5: To sound like that hitting the club or the driver. I mean, because it was a boot and you knew midweight mid flight, like, oh man, this has a chance and he struck it clean. Great jobbing back to cuting it by Cam Little, and it is a game changing when you think about game planning and executing the plan, knowing that you have a weapon at kicker that really expands the scoring zone for the.
00:27:10
Speaker 2: Jets and the jersey and the cleat were sent to Canton, Ohio today. I saw that on JAG's social media earlier today, but not.
00:27:17
Speaker 7: The football because you can't ask for it or did we just they're like, what is next week?
00:27:24
Speaker 4: No?
00:27:25
Speaker 7: And it should be that's cool. I mean, it certainly changes the line the game, and it it makes you wonder a little bit like where their trust for mid quarter kicks starts. Usually that would have been fifty seven you know or.
00:27:47
Speaker 2: You know well, and conditions coming to play too.
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Speaker 7: But if you're from seventy two at the end, it makes you think that sixty sixty one uhould be unheard of from mid quarter. But as Cam talked about after the game, fifty two is supposed to happen now, like that's supposed to be not even a thought.
00:28:16
Speaker 6: How far back do they feel.
00:28:18
Speaker 7: Good about Cam mid quarter where they don't feel like there's a risk of does the risk outweigh the reward all that comes in. I think it's going to be further back than people would expect. It wouldn't surprise me to see him trotting him out there from fifty seven to fifty eight after regular drives.
00:28:36
Speaker 6: I think they think he's he's just going to hit it.
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Speaker 7: When he walked out there, Bucky, I know you haven't watched him a whole lot. My first thought was I wouldn't be surprised if he hits this, and so as it was going through, I didn't have the oh my goodness, I was like, oh, okay, Cam just hit a seventy yard cool.
00:28:57
Speaker 5: I mean maybe because you're previously seeing it more than others, but it is weird seeing the ball set up on the other side of the fifty and you're taking a long distance swing at it, like what it does working backwards. And then I'll get to your think what it does for limb in two minute situations end up half end of the game.
00:29:22
Speaker 3: It gives you.
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Speaker 5: Maybe a more aggressive approach with so you get the ball back with nineteen twenty seconds left. Well now before you used to think, oh, I get to get to the opposite forty to get there. Well, for the defense, they also have to change the way that they play, which makes them more vulnerable and susceptible to big plays because what used to be old playback doesn't have ten to fifteen. Maybe they'll take an help Mary shot for the Jags, it's soft coverage. Great, that'll give us a three point opportunity. Then in middle of the quarter, I still think it stays the same. Your target line is the thirty five or forty yard line on the field, which maybe pushes it back off the balls on the forty that's a fifty.
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Speaker 3: Seven yard er.
00:30:05
Speaker 6: That's probably I think that's yeah.
00:30:07
Speaker 3: I think that's more in play now.
00:30:09
Speaker 5: But you think about it, John, if you're able to get a touchback with a new dynamic kickoff, you talk about the thirty five yard line, fifteen yards to the fifty whatever, you get two first downs, you're now beginning to talk about a win field goal range.
00:30:24
Speaker 3: Like it just changes.
00:30:26
Speaker 5: It changes some of the play called and approach where you can be more aggressive on the front end of it to give yourself a chance to score points.
00:30:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, it does.
00:30:36
Speaker 7: You get a touch back and the other team takes the lead. What with fifteen seconds ago. If there's a touchback, you're absolutely one pass away from.
00:30:51
Speaker 6: Having a chance.
00:30:52
Speaker 7: So it will make that a little more strategic. How teams kick off in that situation, I would guess. So it's commission to see us play out. It's hard to visualize it, but seeing it play out. It's gonna be fascinating.
00:31:07
Speaker 2: And then another part of this too is a mid quarter. They also have another specialist who can pin the other team deep if needed. I mean, Logan Cook had only three touchbacks last year, right, I mean, so he is as locked in as anybody else as well. So that's a choice. Okay, we're gonna pin them deep and there's our defense playing well, and or do we try for the three and you know, a mid fifties three instead. I mean, it depends on the distance to go. All that comes into play here. Fuck.
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Speaker 7: And there was a real reaction Bucky when he made it. And I don't know how to find I don't know how to define boyish enthusiasm, but there was certainly, I thought the reaction of the players. I get that you're going to be excited about a seventy yarder and you and you've seen history and all that, but there did seem Travis Hunter almost leaped over the stadium wall. Uh you know, but he wasn't the only one. There was a real joy in it that Maybe it speaks to how much they like Cam. Maybe they liked the uh you know, the serial commercially shot for us or whatever. But there was something real there about the joy in that it was kind of cool to see. I don't know what it translates to, but I think it matters.
00:32:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think in the we've all been around teams where the kicker was off on an island and not really a part of the team.
00:32:32
Speaker 4: Uh.
00:32:32
Speaker 5: Cam has earned the respect of his teammates where he is fully into the team fabric. So has Logan Cook and those other guys. And the thing that I was gonna say, not like And this is unique in terms we always talk about three phases of football, offense, defense, special teams. The Jaguars have an opportunity to use that special teams unit as a deciding factor.
00:32:56
Speaker 3: In games, and it is a huge.
00:33:00
Speaker 5: Hidden weapon that can help this team really make a climb up the charts.
00:33:06
Speaker 3: You know, we talked.
00:33:07
Speaker 5: About the league being the league that's a one score league where games, most games on Sundays come down to eight points of fewer. Well, now, if you're a proficient nail and field goals and great in the field position game, because Logan Cook understands how to play the coffin corner, it gives the Jaguars an opportunity to maybe knock off some teams that would be viewed as better than them on paper, but they're able to even it up a little bit with his kicking units.
00:33:33
Speaker 7: And credit to Heath Farwell too, jpca Remember you were around when they were talking about when they drafted him.
00:33:38
Speaker 6: It was not a given that cam Little.
00:33:40
Speaker 7: Was the best kicker in that draft. Heath went out and Heath heavily influenced the call to draft him because he looked at him and he believed in this kid. So he'd have been somewhere, but maybe not here. And so some credit Heath fallwell on that.
00:34:00
Speaker 2: Jaguar Saints coming up this Sunday. It's one o'clock eastern kickoff the Caesar super Dome. The Jags have a scrimmage on the practice field tomorrow, John.
00:34:09
Speaker 6: I've never seen that before. I've ever seen a second scrimmage.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see how intense they go Bucky tomorrow and how many reps are in and does that affect things for Sunday. We'll find out. I guess no.
00:34:21
Speaker 3: I like that. The only way to get ready to play ball is to play ball.
00:34:25
Speaker 5: And if you're not going to play your starters, presumably a Ton in these games, you have to get them some live reps, even.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: If it's in a controlled environment. This is Look, it's a unique opportunity to do that.
00:34:38
Speaker 5: But because the Jaguars missed out on having multiple joint practice sessions, this is a way to make up for that.
00:34:45
Speaker 7: And I wonder if you're not going to see this a little more moving forward, Bucky, especially once they go to eighteen, if they indeed go to eighteen. Just the coach is trying to figure out some way and maybe it's a first year head coach thing when this see the guys more in live action or something close to it. But the more you cut back preseason, as much as fans don't like preseason for you know, and Bucket can speak this better than I can, you need evaluating points. You need time to valuate these guys. And four preseason games was really important to talent evaluators and to roster builders. And maybe this is a way of trying to get one more point of that back.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: Oh, it's important.
00:35:29
Speaker 5: Look, it's important because anytime you can get the live reps in the action, you want to do that because we are evaluating players. This is an evaluation period as much as we're trying to fast forward and get to the regular season. You want to make sure that you do a comprehensive evaluation of your team to make sure you don't miss out on anybody.
00:35:47
Speaker 3: So I applaw them.
00:35:48
Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea to have a scrimmage because you still can have a quick whistle and control it to a point. You have the scrimmage, you have a preseason game. A lot of ball in one week, a lot of dog days, a lot.
00:36:01
Speaker 2: Of talking ball in the dog days. That's what we've done today, Bucky. We'll talk to you in New Orleans. I guess the Sunday.
00:36:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:36:10
Speaker 5: I'm trying to rest and recover dog days of podcasting, so I'm trying to get ready for the game.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: That's enough out of you today. I know your name's on the show, but that's Bucky Brooks, seod Oser, I'm J P. Shadrick. Thanks to our entire crew, Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato, Tyler Stidham doing huge work today. This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
