The Difficult And Troubled Relationship That The "Democrats Abroad" Organization Has With Americans Abroad

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Now, John, let me ask you about this.
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Many of the people that I talk with, just in my day-to-day life, but also on my program,
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and many of the people that Keith talked with are what we call accidental Americans,
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or they are an American who is very deep into the thought process when it comes
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to dropping their American citizenship.
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How does that person approach taxation?
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You know, they're two completely different questions. They are.
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I mean, anybody who is, I mean, U.S. citizens are the only carbon life forms
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in the world that, by definition, dual tax residents.
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So, in other words, life is fine if they live in the United States,
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but if they leave the United States, I mean, you may have seen a product called
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an invisible dog fin where you get a shot, right? Okay, let's be what they are.
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Now, this phrase, accidental Americans, I don't even know what it really is.
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But to answer your question, John, the accidentals have an awful lot of benefits
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and options available to them that people who are not accidentals don't.
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I mean, the people who are really being destroyed by this are people who are
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not accidental Americans.
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They moved away from the the United States, you know, and they're in their 20s or something.
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Keith uses the phrase financial center of gravity. What that means is that all
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their retirement financial planning has been done in accordance with the tax
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laws of another country.
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Many of those people are in the U.S. tax system, okay? Many of them are not in the U.S. tax system.
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Basically, absent any reasonable prospect of change, I think people have to get out.
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I think they've got to renounce their citizenship, you know,
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if they want to survive this thing.
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Some will renounce as tax compliant Americans, some will not.
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The IRS, incredibly, going back to the point of accidental dental Americans,
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and I think that this is generous and reasonable because they can't change the laws,
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but has created a program called the Relief Procedures for Former Citizens that
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will allow accidental Americans to renounce U.S.
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Citizenship, in most cases, you know, and wrap the whole thing up.
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The other point that I would make is that there's a huge distinction here between
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people who were born with dual citizenship and those who are not.
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Not only does the U.S. have citizenship taxation, but, you know,
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to make it even more offensive, they have citizenship non-taxation.
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All right? Explain that, please. Sure.
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You know, let's say that you're, I'm going to use the example that Keith always
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uses, although I think this is unreasonably.