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Buck Sexton,
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yeah,
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Buck,
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I mean,
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we've been doing this show for 60 years.
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Has Buck ever been on the show?
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I can't believe it.
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Buck Sexton finally gonna join us to talk about
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how to get the liberals out of our heads and out of our lives.
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We'll talk about that.
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Things are getting a bit ugly between Democrats in the Maine Senate primary.
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We'll talk about the details there.
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We're gonna start by doing Paul Ehrlich.
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Now you might say,
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who the heck is that?
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And I will say to you,
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this is a very fundamental part of this particular program.
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Paul Ehrlich,
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we've talked about him for years and years and years and years,
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going back to my old show.
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He's an environmentalist type,
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uh,
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scientist,
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warning you about how evil
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population is.
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And I will say,
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as a person who is a pro-life person,
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as a person who does not
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want us to depopulate the Earth,
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I.
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Feel bad when someone passes away,
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even at 93 years old,
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like Paul Ehrlich just did,
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and Paul Ehrlich,
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the,
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uh,
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who alarmed the world about the population bomb,
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died dead at 93.
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I guess in Paul Ehrlich's very strange world.
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He might look at this as a positive in some way,
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I do not.
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I,
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I,
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even though he has terrible ideas and influenced the world very negatively,
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I of course wish he was still around,
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uh,
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to give us even more material to talk about.
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His book though,
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did a lot of damage to the world and did a lot of damage to humanity in general,
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frankly,
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he was not a positive influence
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on the Earth,
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though he may have been a nice guy in private.
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I don't know,
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never.
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Hung out with a guy,
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the population bomb.
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While you are reading these words,
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5 people,
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mostly children,
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have died of starvation and 40 more babies
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have been born.
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That was a weird freaking subtitle,
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but he is the,
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he was,
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he was the guy who did all this.
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very highly recognized by the left,
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by the scientific community who always wants
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you to pay attention to scientific consensus.
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Look at all these awards.
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I mean,
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there's dozens of them here,
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you know,
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going back,
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you go back all the way to,
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you know,
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back in the 1970s he was winning awards,
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but all the way up until the 2010s,
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still winning awards about all of his achievements,
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even though he freaked out the world
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for absolutely no reason and was completely wrong
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over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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And was helping form policy
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for the United States for a very
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long time,
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really up until his death.
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But the truth is,
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he made a lot of predictions about what.
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and he was wrong on almost every single one of them,
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sometimes so dramatically wrong,
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you'd think,
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how did this guy ever get a job?
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How did this guy ever get on television?
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He was wrong all
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the time.
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A lot of this is outlined in the National View piece by Noah Rothman.
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Disastrous legacy of Paul Ehrlich,
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central to Ehrlich's thesis in the population bomb was
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his contention that the Earth had a finite carrying capacity
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and its limits were already being tested
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by the mid-twentieth century.
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Humanity would soon have to ration its resources and consign those
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consign those for whom it could no longer care to triage.
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Ehrlich's modern Malthus
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Malthusianism,
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which is a word you will hear more times on this
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particular broadcast than you have in a very long time,
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fired the imaginations of the international environmental left,
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but he seemed compelled to forever up the ante on his dire predictions.
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He subsequently subsequently anticipated
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that in 1980.
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The average American lifespan would decline
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to just 42.
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Now I am older than 42,
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I somehow made it past that deadline.
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I was born in 1976 and I'm somehow
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still alive today.
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the,
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age expectancy has increased,
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considerably.
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Now it's been kind of not increasing at the rate lately that we've wanted.
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Part of that is COVID,
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part of that is overdoses.
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Behind that,
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but generally speaking,
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we've had some real success around the world in
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that particular arena since these predictions were made.
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By 1971,
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Paul Ehrlich was willing to take even money that England
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will not exist
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in the year 2000.
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I don't think that was a Brexit-related prediction.
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because,
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you know,
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we're still,
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they're still kind of around.
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This was like,
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hey,
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they're going to flood,
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there's not going to be any people there,
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it's going to be an environmental catastrophe.
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Roughly 100 to 200 million people,
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he assumed,
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would die of starvation between 1980 and 1989
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in what he deemed the great
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die-off.
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Catchy,
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and idiotic news media ran with all this stuff for
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years and years and years and years and years.
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Ehrlich never questioned his conclusions
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and refused to repent
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for the suffering
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they produced.
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And that is really the crux of the matter here.
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Look.
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This is a guy who based his entire life on trying to convince people
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that
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there shouldn't be as many people as there are.
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It was very,
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very damaging and very,
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very,
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it was one of those things kind of like the
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nuclear power scares that happened around the same period.
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Something gets into the pop culture mind.
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He's going on places like Johnny Carson,
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and people assume this stuff is real.
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There's not a lot to challenge it.
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There's no internet to kind of challenge these claims at the time.
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And it formed an entire generation or two
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of policy.
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The left has pursued this nonsense about the population bomb this entire time
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and the left has also opposed nuclear
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energy despite all their global warming fear mongering
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because it kind of got in their head in the 70s and kind of just stuck around.
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It's kind of bizarre
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and it really ushered in.
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an era of despair,
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the sort of
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idea that everything was going to turn out terribly,
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that it was kind of like the initial black pilling of our nation
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where we believed if people existed,
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terrible things would happen.
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That's not how I see the world.
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Hopefully that's not how you do as well.
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Spectator has a piece,
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Paul Ehrlich's Bad Ideas Won't Go Away.
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The left's approval of Ehrlich exposes another inconsistency in its thinking.
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What Ehrlich and his think-alikes say on a global
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scale is not tolerated when others make a similar point
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on a national scale.
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This is an interesting point.
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Say the world is overcrowded and cannot possibly cope with many
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more people because they will all trample over its resources.
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And you
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are an enlightened thinker.
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Say the same about migration to Britain,
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on the other hand,
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and you are a fascist.
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Ehrlich may have died,
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but we will not,
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we have,
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we will not have seen the last of the Malthusian left.
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The idea
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that humans are like rabbits on a foxless
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island doomed to breed to the point of self-destruction
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is bound
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to survive him.
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It's true,
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and it's sad.
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I will say,
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you know,
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listening to him in retrospect,
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knowing now,
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of course,
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everything that he said was wrong,
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it's easy to kind of make fun of him
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and you know,
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throw
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his meaning in the universe out the window,
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right?
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Here's a guy who has said a lot of things,
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like kind of like the guy
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who remember who had
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what was it,
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the Heaven's Gate,
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right?
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Like we were going to have this particular time where we were all going to go
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up.
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We had to like kill ourselves or we,
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you know,
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because we were going to be taken by some deity and whatever that thing,
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wherever that cult was back in the day,
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the Jonestown people.
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you kind of get to that,
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you know,
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it's sad,
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sad story maybe,
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but you look back at it,
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kind of this quirky,
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almost kicker story feel,
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right?
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Can you believe this guy had all these wrong predictions?
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But he really did have an impact on our country.
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I want to take you through
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maybe one of the craziest roller coaster rides of 2 minutes you'll ever go on.
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This is a clip from him back in 1970.
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Again,
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was on the media
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all the time,
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preaching this stuff as if it was true,
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as if it was accurate.
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And we're going to start our rollercoaster ride
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with the concept of I am against government interference in our lives.
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That's where we start.
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Against government interference.
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And where we wind up
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is the government will simply tell you how many children you can
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have and throw you in jail if you have too many.
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That's the rollercoaster ride you're about to go on.
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Welcome to the Ehrlich coaster.
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Now,
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uh,
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given the population explosion,
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let alone in this country,
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what
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can the government,
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what ought the government to do about this?
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Well,
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what it ought to do is this.
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The first thing you want,
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you don't want to put,
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I,
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I'm against government interference in our lives.
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You want to minimize that.
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So the very first thing the government should do
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is try and take the pressure off to reproduce.
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There's a lot of pressure in our society now to reproduce if you're.
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Single,
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people try and push you into getting married,
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you know,
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uh,
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your,
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your wife,
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you have a,
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a,
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uh,
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a bachelor over and your wife says,
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Gee,
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shouldn't I have a nice girl over.
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The idea is,
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you know,
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nobody should escape,
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so there's pressure to get married.
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Young couples,
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if they don't have children,
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people say,
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Gee,
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they must be thorough.
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They never say,
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Gee,
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maybe they like,
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uh,
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good wine and going to the theater and so on.
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They prefer that to scraping diapers.
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So there's pressure to have children.
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So the first thing that should happen is that the
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president ought to say from now here on out,
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no
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intelligent,
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patriotic American family,
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uh,
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ought to have more than 2 children,
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preferably 1,
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if you're starting a family now.
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Not,
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not any law,
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but just say this is what responsible people do.
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He ought to make the FCC see to it that large families
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are always treated in a negative light on television wherever they appear.
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There ought to be a tremendous amount
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of television time devoted to spot commercials,
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the sort we've had against smoking.
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Ah,
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but the ones in the middle,
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say in the middle of Beverly Hillbillies,
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you get a scene which shows Los Angeles in the smog,
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and it just says this city has a fatal disease.
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It's called overpopulation,
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and
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so long.
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Uh,
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now that sort of campaign,
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you could,
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you could have a census,
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a sample census which would see whether that was having a desired effect.
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If that didn't,
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you could move to giving women bonuses for not having babies.
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That almost certainly would do the job.
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If that didn't have the effect,
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then you could move to changing the tax structure,
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uh,
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so that people who had the money and had the children paid for the children.
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In other words,
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you would increase taxes on people with children rather than decrease.
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Since they,
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when they have their children,
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they require more services.
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If that doesn't work,
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uh,
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then you'll have the government legislating the size of the family,
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and people say,
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Oh,
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that's impossible.
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Government can never intrude and tell you how many children to have.
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Well,
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I got news.
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You know,
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it intruded a long time ago and told you how many wives you can have,
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uh,
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and there's not the slightest question that if we don't get the population
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under control with voluntary means that in the not too distant future,
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the government will simply tell you how many children you can
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have and throw you in jail if you have too many.
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Do you understand why this is an important segment?
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That is
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the entire left,
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everything we've struggled with over all of these years in one quote,
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and of course it's,
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you know,
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couched in the idea,
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I don't want a lot of government interference,
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that's not what I want.
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But then it's,
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well,
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we should be encouraging the government,
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should be encouraging people
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to not get married.
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I mean,
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do you remember what we heard with the Black Lives Matter situation?
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It was the fighting against the nuclear family.
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We fight against them
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not getting,
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we want them to not get married,
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right?
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So they,
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because,
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you know,
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some people can escape marriage.
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That's the way you put it.
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I can't believe anyone would want to escape that.
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Then it was,
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they shouldn't have children.
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You know,
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it can't be that they were,
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uh,
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you know,
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they just enjoyed good wine and didn't want to scrape diapers.
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That was the way he put it again.
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So against marriage,
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against family.
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Then you have the FCC
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should see to it again,
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the government getting involved.
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This guy doesn't want any government involvement.
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The government gets involved.
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Large families are always treated in a negative light on television.
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I mean,
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think of all the crappy,
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you know,
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entertainment we've talked about over the years,
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where they're
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framing everything on the left and you know it's trans,
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everything is positive and regular families are weird and
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terrible and dads are always dumb and idiotic.
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A lot of this stuff has come true.
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Then giving bonuses for not having babies
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is another one again against the nuclear family.
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Increased taxes on people rather than decreasing them.
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These are anti-family policies,
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not pro-family policies.
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Government legislating the size,
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the size of the family.
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And throwing you in jail if you have too many kids.
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Again,
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essentially what the two
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child policy in China eventually did implement.
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I mean it was based on a lot of the stuff he was talking about at that time.
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That's how influential this guy was,
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and he was influential not just in a policy standpoint
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or a global standpoint or a national policy standpoint.
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He was influential to regular people who had their
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entire lives ruined because of what this guy wrote.
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Let me give you,
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this is an actual excerpt from a letter to the
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editor back in 2023 in The Wall Street Journal.
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I was a college student when I read Mr.
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Ehrlich's The Population Bomb.
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I took it to heart
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and now have no grandchildren.
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But 50 years later,
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the population has increased to 8 billion without
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dire consequences.
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I was gullible
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and stupid.
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This guy from Minnesota named Kenneth.
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The
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guy basically ruined his life.
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That's just one person.
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And whatever else has been implemented,
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we're talking about,
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you know,
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major,
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you know,
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environmental cases all around the world where millions of people wound up dying,
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where they were targeted.
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Certainly the China situation might be the most brutal of those attempts
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over the years,
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but a lot of that based on his teachings,
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his leadership,
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and yet after all of that history,
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this man is generally speaking still treated
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as a saint.
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By the media.
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Let me give you some of this.
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Ehrlich may still own the record for failed predictions in human history.
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Tarot card readers or those who
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read the entrails of sacrificed animals have better records
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of predictions than he,
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yet the media still treats him
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as a prophet.
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To the extent
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that he dies in 2026 at 93 years old,
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at 90 years old,
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in 2023,
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he's still being allowed on television.
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To preach this stuff and act like he's being true.
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Here he is
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with CBS News.
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Too many people,
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too much consumption.
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And growth mania.
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At the age of 90,
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biologist Paul Ehrlich may have lived long enough to
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see some of his dire prophecies come true.
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You seem to be saying that humanity is not sustainable.
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No,
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humanity is not sustainable.
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To maintain
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our lifestyle,
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yours and mine,
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basically for the entire planet,
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you'd need 5 more Earths.
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What are you not clear where they're going to come from in terms.
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The resources that would be required,
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resources that would be required,
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the systems that support our lives,
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which of course are the biodiversity
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that we're wiping out.
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Humanity is
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very busily
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sitting on a limb that we're sawing off.
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This is the same crap he was saying in 1970.
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None of it came true,
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and he comes on air 53 years later.
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And it's treated like that.
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Hey,
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his prophecies may have come true.
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When,
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where,
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how,
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why?
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Do you have any evidence of this?
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By the way,
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it wasn't just that he was warning people,
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policies were created around the world that wound up targeting
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all sorts of vulnerable people,
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the type of people the left says they care about.
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As even Ehrlich's supporters will admit,
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his theories lent support to racist attitudes to population control.
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Population bombers encouraged the promotion of abortion
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in places like sub-Saharan Africa
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and the Indian subcontinent.
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And this way that he is treated,
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even though all of that stuff is true,
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he's still treated in the media.
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Remember we started this with
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the
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the
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you know,
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00:15:54.869 --> 00:15:56.169
announcement of his death
568
00:15:56.390 --> 00:15:57.270
in the obituary,
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00:15:57.309 --> 00:15:58.049
I guess,
570
00:15:58.190 --> 00:15:59.409
of him in the New York
571
00:15:59.750 --> 00:16:00.270
Times.
572
00:16:00.710 --> 00:16:03.030
Look at the wording they used in the subtitle here.
573
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It's key to the way they treated it.
574
00:16:04.994 --> 00:16:06.375
It's not that he was wrong.
575
00:16:06.755 --> 00:16:09.434
It's that he's just going to be right again in the future at some point.
576
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We just don't recognize it yet.
577
00:16:10.955 --> 00:16:11.515
Paul Ehrlich,
578
00:16:11.594 --> 00:16:13.114
who alarmed the world with a population bomb,
579
00:16:13.234 --> 00:16:14.034
dies at 93.
580
00:16:14.275 --> 00:16:15.945
His bestselling 1968 book,
581
00:16:16.155 --> 00:16:17.515
which forecasts global famines,
582
00:16:17.635 --> 00:16:19.315
made him a leader in the environmental movement,
583
00:16:19.515 --> 00:16:24.794
but he faced criticisms when his predictions proved premature.
584
00:16:25.969 --> 00:16:27.229
It's not that they were wrong.
585
00:16:28.270 --> 00:16:29.780
Is that they were premature.
586
00:16:30.229 --> 00:16:35.020
Now that might be true if he predicted it happening in 2000 and it happened in 2010.
587
00:16:35.309 --> 00:16:36.780
That's a premature prediction,
588
00:16:36.830 --> 00:16:36.909
right?
589
00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:37.729
You're a little early.
590
00:16:38.469 --> 00:16:38.669
Well,
591
00:16:38.909 --> 00:16:40.429
none of the stuff he said has happened.
592
00:16:41.239 --> 00:16:44.369
We're still at an area where things are flourishing for people.
593
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I'm about to show you the details on that.
594
00:16:46.359 --> 00:16:47.239
You might not know them.
595
00:16:47.349 --> 00:16:48.340
Most people don't.
596
00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:50.059
Most people don't.
597
00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.679
Nate Silver points out the idiocy of this treatment,
598
00:16:52.760 --> 00:16:53.309
by the way,
599
00:16:53.619 --> 00:16:58.200
predicting that civilization would end by 1985 counts as a pretty basic error,
600
00:16:58.440 --> 00:16:59.080
I'd think.
601
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To the extent he's received scientific accolades,
602
00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:03.859
it shows how unseriously
603
00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.180
the scientific community
604
00:17:05.598 --> 00:17:06.060
takes
605
00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:07.040
prediction.
606
00:17:07.358 --> 00:17:07.790
It's very,
607
00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:08.699
very true.
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00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:09.280
I,
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00:17:09.358 --> 00:17:09.839
for one,
610
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want,
611
00:17:10.719 --> 00:17:10.839
I mean,
612
00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.150
as a person who's about to start a
613
00:17:12.150 --> 00:17:14.400
prediction market show called Predictable with Stu,
614
00:17:14.790 --> 00:17:14.920
uh,
615
00:17:14.959 --> 00:17:15.439
which by the way,
616
00:17:15.469 --> 00:17:17.339
is going to be coming in mid-April,
617
00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:17.930
uh,
618
00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:21.239
it is a situation where I want more Paul Ehrlichs to say
619
00:17:21.239 --> 00:17:23.560
this crap so that I can bet against them and win.
620
00:17:23.900 --> 00:17:24.260
By the way,
621
00:17:24.339 --> 00:17:27.160
one of the most famous stories about Paul Ehrlich's life was a story where
622
00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:28.098
Julian Simon,
623
00:17:29.770 --> 00:17:31.380
another one of his contemporaries at the time,
624
00:17:31.660 --> 00:17:31.739
said,
625
00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:32.099
by the way,
626
00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.530
I don't think you're right about all this scarcity.
627
00:17:34.739 --> 00:17:36.449
I think we're going to actually have
628
00:17:37.020 --> 00:17:38.819
so much abundance that price.
629
00:17:38.900 --> 00:17:39.719
are going to go down.
630
00:17:40.459 --> 00:17:41.540
They bet on this,
631
00:17:41.609 --> 00:17:45.599
and Paul Ehrlich was unfortunately for him
632
00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:47.180
forced to write a check for,
633
00:17:47.189 --> 00:17:49.239
I think $576
634
00:17:50.250 --> 00:17:52.119
and admit a complete
635
00:17:52.380 --> 00:17:53.959
disastrous failure
636
00:17:55.260 --> 00:17:57.060
and admit that he was wrong.
637
00:17:57.180 --> 00:18:00.010
There was a bet on whether the scarcity of metal
638
00:18:00.010 --> 00:18:01.459
metals would go in a certain direction or not.
639
00:18:01.739 --> 00:18:03.939
The prices went down as Simon predicted.
640
00:18:04.050 --> 00:18:04.939
It's a very famous story,
641
00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:05.459
by the way,
642
00:18:05.699 --> 00:18:06.920
not necessarily known all that much.
643
00:18:07.060 --> 00:18:08.699
He made his wife write the check.
644
00:18:09.699 --> 00:18:10.160
Anne
645
00:18:10.459 --> 00:18:10.979
signed the check,
646
00:18:11.099 --> 00:18:12.319
not Paul Ehrlich.
647
00:18:13.300 --> 00:18:15.959
Because he was a coward as well as being completely wrong.
648
00:18:16.650 --> 00:18:16.890
Again,
649
00:18:16.930 --> 00:18:18.709
I'm sure a wonderful gentleman at home.
650
00:18:18.930 --> 00:18:19.209
By the way,
651
00:18:19.329 --> 00:18:22.310
should we point out how wrong he was one last time before I let you go?
652
00:18:22.689 --> 00:18:24.319
He wrote this in 1970.
653
00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.329
Food optimism is nonsense.
654
00:18:26.439 --> 00:18:28.609
The idea that we'd have more food in the future,
655
00:18:28.849 --> 00:18:30.810
be able to feed people is nonsense.
656
00:18:31.209 --> 00:18:33.030
Let's go over parts of that claim,
657
00:18:33.170 --> 00:18:33.729
shall we?
658
00:18:34.489 --> 00:18:35.530
In the 1960s,
659
00:18:35.609 --> 00:18:36.589
India was producing
660
00:18:36.910 --> 00:18:39.640
10 million tons of wheat per year.
661
00:18:40.130 --> 00:18:41.089
1960,
662
00:18:41.209 --> 00:18:42.310
10 million tons.
663
00:18:42.910 --> 00:18:43.709
In 2023,
664
00:18:43.790 --> 00:18:46.329
it produced 112
665
00:18:46.469 --> 00:18:46.890
million
666
00:18:47.219 --> 00:18:47.699
tons.
667
00:18:48.060 --> 00:18:50.550
Every 1% increase in population corresponded with
668
00:18:50.550 --> 00:18:53.619
a 5.66% increase in wheat production,
669
00:18:53.869 --> 00:18:54.609
the opposite
670
00:18:54.949 --> 00:18:56.130
of what Paul Ehrlich
671
00:18:56.349 --> 00:18:56.910
predicted.
672
00:18:57.310 --> 00:18:58.030
Dominic Pinot,
673
00:18:58.150 --> 00:18:58.699
a friend of ours,
674
00:18:58.790 --> 00:18:59.550
been on the program before,
675
00:18:59.670 --> 00:19:01.540
Paul Ehrlich wrote that hundreds of millions of people
676
00:19:01.540 --> 00:19:03.150
are going to starve to death in the 1970s.
677
00:19:03.219 --> 00:19:04.069
We mentioned that claim earlier.
678
00:19:04.150 --> 00:19:05.140
What happened with that?
679
00:19:05.469 --> 00:19:06.369
The actual
680
00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:08.680
amount of people who died in famines in that decade,
681
00:19:08.869 --> 00:19:09.510
4 million,
682
00:19:09.589 --> 00:19:10.550
not hundreds of millions,
683
00:19:10.630 --> 00:19:11.869
but 4 million.
684
00:19:12.069 --> 00:19:14.560
It went down to 2 million in the 1980s
685
00:19:14.709 --> 00:19:17.109
and 1 million in the 2000s.
686
00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:19.890
The average person today has more food
687
00:19:20.849 --> 00:19:21.670
than ever before.
688
00:19:22.469 --> 00:19:23.910
Here's the graph that proves it.
689
00:19:24.469 --> 00:19:25.910
This is from our World in Data,
690
00:19:26.109 --> 00:19:27.069
great organization.
691
00:19:27.349 --> 00:19:28.410
Since the publication
692
00:19:28.589 --> 00:19:29.670
of The Population Bomb,
693
00:19:29.709 --> 00:19:32.589
the world's food supply has steadily increased,
694
00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:34.329
increased
695
00:19:34.790 --> 00:19:36.770
by 25% over that period.
696
00:19:37.329 --> 00:19:38.839
One of my favorite authors,
697
00:19:38.849 --> 00:19:39.000
uh,
698
00:19:39.010 --> 00:19:40.089
also chimed in on this.
699
00:19:40.290 --> 00:19:41.290
He's been on the program as well.
700
00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:44.479
It's kind of like a reunion of all of our favorite guests in this particular segment.
701
00:19:44.729 --> 00:19:45.530
Matt Ridley,
702
00:19:45.729 --> 00:19:46.310
who I love.
703
00:19:46.369 --> 00:19:46.609
He says,
704
00:19:46.729 --> 00:19:49.910
where on this chart is the evidence that Ehrlich's predictions of inevitable,
705
00:19:50.209 --> 00:19:50.849
imminent,
706
00:19:51.290 --> 00:19:55.010
worsening global famines that started in the 1960s were premature.
707
00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:55.770
Rather than wrong,
708
00:19:55.890 --> 00:19:58.849
referring to that New York Times handling of his death.
709
00:19:59.130 --> 00:20:00.790
Here's the chart he's referring to.
710
00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:01.829
As you see,
711
00:20:02.530 --> 00:20:03.750
death rates from famine
712
00:20:03.930 --> 00:20:04.689
were up at,
713
00:20:04.819 --> 00:20:05.050
you know,
714
00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:07.170
for every 100,000 people,
715
00:20:07.410 --> 00:20:10.390
at 1200 back in the 1870s for every 100,000.
716
00:20:10.569 --> 00:20:12.810
Even in 1940 it was over 1000.
717
00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:13.630
Right now
718
00:20:13.969 --> 00:20:15.609
you can't even see it on the chart.
719
00:20:15.810 --> 00:20:17.229
There's almost none.
720
00:20:17.530 --> 00:20:19.229
Almost no one
721
00:20:19.729 --> 00:20:20.449
dies
722
00:20:20.609 --> 00:20:21.170
of famine.
723
00:20:21.250 --> 00:20:23.329
When you talk about a rate per 100,000,
724
00:20:23.410 --> 00:20:24.430
it is almost.
725
00:20:24.979 --> 00:20:26.359
Impossible to see
726
00:20:27.369 --> 00:20:29.469
These are incredible achievements
727
00:20:29.770 --> 00:20:30.449
of humanity.
728
00:20:30.530 --> 00:20:31.349
I believe,
729
00:20:31.530 --> 00:20:34.880
directly blessed from God to be able to do the things that we do.
730
00:20:35.369 --> 00:20:35.709
People
731
00:20:35.969 --> 00:20:39.770
who have struggled for all time to be able to feed themselves are
732
00:20:39.770 --> 00:20:42.569
now being able to do that at rates never before seen before.
733
00:20:42.810 --> 00:20:46.199
This is the greatest achievement of humanity since you've been born,
734
00:20:46.369 --> 00:20:47.250
that I can promise you.
735
00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:48.520
Since you've been born,
736
00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:50.790
nobody's achieved something greater
737
00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:53.020
than what has been achieved when it comes
738
00:20:53.020 --> 00:20:55.670
to just feeding people and keeping them alive
739
00:20:55.930 --> 00:20:56.250
and.
740
00:20:56.859 --> 00:20:58.390
All of this lines up.
741
00:20:58.619 --> 00:21:00.640
It's the greatest human achievement that you've
742
00:21:00.959 --> 00:21:02.400
experienced in your entire life
743
00:21:02.660 --> 00:21:02.819
is,
744
00:21:02.979 --> 00:21:04.400
is to refute
745
00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:06.770
everything that Paul Ehrlich stood for.
746
00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:07.880
This man
747
00:21:08.660 --> 00:21:10.760
told us over and over and over again
748
00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:13.329
that death and despair were around the corner,
749
00:21:13.380 --> 00:21:15.260
to the fact that it's affecting people's lives,
750
00:21:15.300 --> 00:21:16.140
it affected policy,
751
00:21:16.219 --> 00:21:18.130
it affected millions and millions of people,
752
00:21:18.310 --> 00:21:19.459
whether they're alive or dead.
753
00:21:20.020 --> 00:21:22.849
And yet he's still supported and praised by the media.
754
00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.560
I don't cheer on anyone going away.
755
00:21:25.829 --> 00:21:26.790
That's not the way I am.
756
00:21:26.869 --> 00:21:28.969
It's the way that Paul Ehrlich kind of was.
757
00:21:29.849 --> 00:21:30.760
Not the way that I am,
758
00:21:30.859 --> 00:21:32.079
I don't cheer him going away,
759
00:21:32.180 --> 00:21:33.000
but I do
760
00:21:33.699 --> 00:21:35.160
hope and pray we live
761
00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:38.439
to see a day where these ideas die,
762
00:21:38.579 --> 00:21:39.650
the painful,
763
00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:41.040
awful death
764
00:21:41.219 --> 00:21:41.959
they deserve.
765
00:21:54.510 --> 00:21:56.910
I'm excited to welcome Buck Sexton to the program.
766
00:21:57.030 --> 00:21:57.290
He is,
767
00:21:57.300 --> 00:21:57.630
of course,
768
00:21:57.650 --> 00:22:01.069
the co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Buck Sexton Show
769
00:22:01.270 --> 00:22:04.030
and author of the new book Manufacturing Delusion,
770
00:22:04.310 --> 00:22:05.709
How the Left Uses Brainwashing,
771
00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:06.449
Indoctrination,
772
00:22:06.630 --> 00:22:09.020
and propaganda Against you.
773
00:22:09.219 --> 00:22:11.030
It's available wherever you get your books,
774
00:22:11.109 --> 00:22:12.609
so be sure to grab a copy today.
775
00:22:13.229 --> 00:22:13.430
Buck,
776
00:22:13.550 --> 00:22:14.609
thanks so much for coming on the program.
777
00:22:16.040 --> 00:22:16.719
Great to see you,
778
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:17.079
sir.
779
00:22:17.199 --> 00:22:17.989
Thank you and the,
780
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.770
uh I appreciate the plug for the book,
781
00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:20.380
which,
782
00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:21.030
uh,
783
00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:25.229
the number one thing that I hear about it is people get it and then they go,
784
00:22:25.449 --> 00:22:26.939
it's actually good,
785
00:22:27.520 --> 00:22:28.939
which is so nice
786
00:22:29.239 --> 00:22:31.280
and like a little backhanded at the same time.
787
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.619
It's like a real book with research and you learn stuff,
788
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.739
and it took me 18 months to write.
789
00:22:36.760 --> 00:22:37.420
And so,
790
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:38.510
it's not like,
791
00:22:38.520 --> 00:22:39.060
uh,
792
00:22:39.469 --> 00:22:40.030
You know,
793
00:22:40.390 --> 00:22:42.550
some AI slop that somebody threw together.
794
00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:45.050
So I'm happy that people are surprised at how good it is.
795
00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:45.770
I'll take it.
796
00:22:46.569 --> 00:22:46.770
I mean,
797
00:22:46.849 --> 00:22:46.930
yeah,
798
00:22:46.969 --> 00:22:47.339
it's a little bit,
799
00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:48.439
it's like when some like,
800
00:22:48.449 --> 00:22:48.839
uh,
801
00:22:48.849 --> 00:22:50.520
someone makes dinner for you and you're like,
802
00:22:50.530 --> 00:22:50.810
wow,
803
00:22:50.849 --> 00:22:51.310
this is,
804
00:22:51.650 --> 00:22:52.609
this is actually good,
805
00:22:52.719 --> 00:22:53.050
you know,
806
00:22:53.130 --> 00:22:53.530
I mean,
807
00:22:53.650 --> 00:22:53.780
uh,
808
00:22:53.890 --> 00:22:54.550
thanks a lot.
809
00:22:54.770 --> 00:22:54.959
Um,
810
00:22:55.050 --> 00:22:55.130
yeah,
811
00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:56.199
it's a great book actually,
812
00:22:56.209 --> 00:22:58.589
and you hit on a lot of different uh points
813
00:22:59.010 --> 00:22:59.880
that I don't think,
814
00:22:59.890 --> 00:23:00.430
uh,
815
00:23:00.890 --> 00:23:04.410
I think that cut to the core of everything that we're dealing with right now,
816
00:23:04.689 --> 00:23:05.109
um,
817
00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:05.250
in,
818
00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:06.089
in a way that I don't,
819
00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:07.770
I don't know that I've read in another book.
820
00:23:07.829 --> 00:23:08.229
Um,
821
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:09.449
let's start at the beginning though,
822
00:23:09.770 --> 00:23:09.890
you know,
823
00:23:09.969 --> 00:23:10.729
why did you write it?
824
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:12.010
Well,
825
00:23:12.050 --> 00:23:13.329
I wanted to answer a question,
826
00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:16.089
and this applies to so much of what's going on right now,
827
00:23:16.209 --> 00:23:16.770
which is,
828
00:23:16.859 --> 00:23:17.160
uh,
829
00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:17.849
I think very,
830
00:23:17.969 --> 00:23:18.810
very useful for,
831
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.890
for anybody who will pick up a copy of Manufacturing Delusion.
832
00:23:22.250 --> 00:23:22.810
And the question is,
833
00:23:22.969 --> 00:23:23.810
what's happening to people?
834
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:25.589
Why are so many people so nuts?
835
00:23:25.969 --> 00:23:27.359
Like really crazy,
836
00:23:27.449 --> 00:23:27.750
you know,
837
00:23:27.969 --> 00:23:28.030
how,
838
00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:29.550
how is it that we have
839
00:23:30.010 --> 00:23:30.290
If,
840
00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:33.069
if you were to go on X or Twitter right now,
841
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:33.930
and you would say,
842
00:23:34.209 --> 00:23:34.489
I,
843
00:23:34.569 --> 00:23:35.300
I
844
00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:37.930
dare a scientist to come forward,
845
00:23:38.250 --> 00:23:38.489
you know,
846
00:23:38.569 --> 00:23:38.729
and,
847
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:40.430
and tell me that men
848
00:23:40.810 --> 00:23:43.800
can have vaginas and women can have penises,
849
00:23:44.250 --> 00:23:45.969
you'd have a whole bunch of blue check,
850
00:23:46.060 --> 00:23:46.560
uh,
851
00:23:46.770 --> 00:23:46.930
you know,
852
00:23:47.040 --> 00:23:48.689
MDs and PhDs and stuff.
853
00:23:48.729 --> 00:23:49.040
They'd be like,
854
00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:49.239
well,
855
00:23:49.369 --> 00:23:49.949
let me tell you,
856
00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:50.250
I.
857
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:51.880
Something's wrong here,
858
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:52.439
folks,
859
00:23:52.550 --> 00:23:52.880
OK?
860
00:23:52.959 --> 00:23:53.239
There's a,
861
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:54.040
there's a problem.
862
00:23:54.280 --> 00:23:55.280
Just like if you were to say,
863
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:55.479
I,
864
00:23:55.560 --> 00:23:55.900
I,
865
00:23:56.040 --> 00:23:57.819
I wonder if we could find anybody who
866
00:23:58.280 --> 00:23:59.479
is a scientist who would make,
867
00:23:59.560 --> 00:23:59.800
I'm,
868
00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:00.800
now I'm picking on scientists,
869
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:02.550
but there's a lot of different people you could throw in here.
870
00:24:02.829 --> 00:24:05.239
Make the case that climate change is an existential threat.
871
00:24:05.479 --> 00:24:07.300
Maybe you shouldn't even have kids because of the.
872
00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:08.810
CO2 footprint of this.
873
00:24:09.239 --> 00:24:10.640
People would come forward.
874
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.040
They will make this argument.
875
00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:12.439
In fact,
876
00:24:12.550 --> 00:24:13.699
they will make it
877
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.420
with all of the fervor of a religious belief
878
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.959
of a person who is a fundamentalist,
879
00:24:20.020 --> 00:24:23.959
a person who thinks that all of the answers are contained in their left-wing canon.
880
00:24:24.209 --> 00:24:25.369
And so that then brought me to,
881
00:24:25.449 --> 00:24:26.800
how do we get to
882
00:24:27.209 --> 00:24:29.150
this in a free society?
883
00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:29.489
Well,
884
00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:33.089
we know that they do this in totalitarian societies.
885
00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:34.530
We know that if you,
886
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:34.770
you know,
887
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.369
if you live in North Korea or if you were in Stalinist Russia,
888
00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:41.250
there would be iconography of the Dear Leader everywhere.
889
00:24:41.339 --> 00:24:44.390
There would be posters demanding you say and believe certain things.
890
00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:46.209
And so I looked at this and I said,
891
00:24:46.290 --> 00:24:47.213
what are tactics,
892
00:24:47.292 --> 00:24:52.353
what are the things that are done in those places that we see replicated in our own?
893
00:24:52.402 --> 00:24:54.113
And that's where I get into things like
894
00:24:54.333 --> 00:24:58.123
isolation and forced confession and identity construction,
895
00:24:58.133 --> 00:24:59.473
and all of these,
896
00:24:59.652 --> 00:25:01.473
the chapters essentially line up
897
00:25:01.692 --> 00:25:02.753
with the different
898
00:25:02.932 --> 00:25:03.652
modalities,
899
00:25:03.723 --> 00:25:04.213
tactics,
900
00:25:04.493 --> 00:25:05.312
approaches
901
00:25:05.532 --> 00:25:08.633
to making people believe crazy stuff
902
00:25:08.812 --> 00:25:10.046
and And this is actually quite,
903
00:25:10.095 --> 00:25:11.135
it starts with Pavlov,
904
00:25:11.176 --> 00:25:11.456
by the way,
905
00:25:11.536 --> 00:25:12.566
and Pavlov's dogs,
906
00:25:12.776 --> 00:25:14.676
but this is actually quite possible to do
907
00:25:15.176 --> 00:25:15.895
to human beings.
908
00:25:15.975 --> 00:25:16.375
In fact,
909
00:25:16.456 --> 00:25:17.406
that last 100 years,
910
00:25:17.416 --> 00:25:19.776
we've seen the biggest mind control experiments
911
00:25:19.926 --> 00:25:21.196
in human history
912
00:25:21.375 --> 00:25:22.526
by totalitarian regimes,
913
00:25:22.536 --> 00:25:23.036
and now
914
00:25:23.375 --> 00:25:24.095
in our own country,
915
00:25:24.176 --> 00:25:27.056
whether it's BLM or climate change or trans stuff,
916
00:25:27.066 --> 00:25:27.446
or,
917
00:25:27.696 --> 00:25:28.005
you know,
918
00:25:28.446 --> 00:25:30.336
Trump hacked the election with Russian help,
919
00:25:30.416 --> 00:25:31.316
all these different.
920
00:25:31.800 --> 00:25:33.949
Beliefs that are verifiably false,
921
00:25:34.280 --> 00:25:35.229
there are pathways,
922
00:25:35.310 --> 00:25:37.619
there are things that are done to people
923
00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:39.650
that bring them to believe them,
924
00:25:39.719 --> 00:25:41.719
that manufacture these delusions,
925
00:25:41.800 --> 00:25:42.829
hence the book title.
926
00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:43.160
Yeah,
927
00:25:43.280 --> 00:25:43.400
yeah,
928
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.300
take us through some of this because I think like,
929
00:25:45.699 --> 00:25:48.829
You hit on the fact that we're a free society and
930
00:25:49.550 --> 00:25:51.300
that should be a defense against this.
931
00:25:51.670 --> 00:25:52.579
You go through many ways,
932
00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:55.369
and I want to get into these of how
933
00:25:55.550 --> 00:25:58.290
a society does this in a free sort of
934
00:25:58.589 --> 00:25:59.219
context,
935
00:25:59.430 --> 00:26:02.930
but you talk about your early experiences in Nigeria
936
00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:05.900
and in the Middle East seeing extremism develop there,
937
00:26:06.189 --> 00:26:06.890
and you can kind of
938
00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:08.760
draw a direct line to,
939
00:26:08.780 --> 00:26:09.750
let's say COVID,
940
00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:10.079
right?
941
00:26:10.270 --> 00:26:10.750
Like
942
00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:11.989
how does that work?
943
00:26:12.689 --> 00:26:12.849
Oh,
944
00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:13.209
sure.
945
00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:13.609
Well,
946
00:26:13.910 --> 00:26:14.869
for one thing,
947
00:26:15.290 --> 00:26:15.589
uh,
948
00:26:15.910 --> 00:26:19.189
no matter what country you're talking about or what society,
949
00:26:19.410 --> 00:26:19.689
uh,
950
00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.469
extremist belief.
951
00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:22.390
Can
952
00:26:22.849 --> 00:26:25.890
be the mandated belief system of the state,
953
00:26:26.209 --> 00:26:28.130
or it can just be pockets of it within,
954
00:26:28.209 --> 00:26:29.069
but can still exist,
955
00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:29.410
right?
956
00:26:29.489 --> 00:26:29.949
This is,
957
00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:30.319
uh,
958
00:26:30.469 --> 00:26:30.479
and,
959
00:26:30.510 --> 00:26:30.520
and,
960
00:26:30.569 --> 00:26:31.349
and in fact,
961
00:26:31.410 --> 00:26:32.910
if you look at the history
962
00:26:33.410 --> 00:26:33.719
of,
963
00:26:33.810 --> 00:26:34.530
of the Soviet,
964
00:26:34.579 --> 00:26:34.890
uh,
965
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:35.969
the Soviet Revolution,
966
00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:36.199
uh,
967
00:26:36.209 --> 00:26:36.469
the,
968
00:26:36.569 --> 00:26:36.849
the,
969
00:26:36.930 --> 00:26:38.770
the rise of the Soviet Union,
970
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:39.089
you know,
971
00:26:39.130 --> 00:26:40.369
the Bolsheviks were never popular,
972
00:26:40.449 --> 00:26:42.930
they're always a faction among many factions,
973
00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:45.270
and they just managed to seize
974
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.949
power with this hardline,
975
00:26:48.020 --> 00:26:48.319
uh,
976
00:26:48.489 --> 00:26:48.969
belief in,
977
00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:50.489
in communism and Marxism.
978
00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:52.619
And you have this in other places as well.
979
00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:54.339
So when I was in Nigeria,
980
00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:54.650
yeah,
981
00:26:54.699 --> 00:26:57.849
the whole country wasn't in the grip of Islamic fundamentalism,
982
00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:00.119
but I saw what it looks like
983
00:27:00.260 --> 00:27:05.680
to be in a place where the beginnings of fundamentalist
984
00:27:05.900 --> 00:27:08.680
infrastructure that are churning out
985
00:27:08.979 --> 00:27:09.939
hardline believers,
986
00:27:09.979 --> 00:27:10.140
you know,
987
00:27:10.219 --> 00:27:11.010
what does that look like?
988
00:27:11.060 --> 00:27:12.540
And then of course in Iraq and Afghanistan,
989
00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:13.300
I was in places.
990
00:27:13.362 --> 00:27:13.901
Where they had
991
00:27:14.082 --> 00:27:15.791
much further down the line,
992
00:27:16.121 --> 00:27:18.322
people who had been through a radicalization process,
993
00:27:18.442 --> 00:27:18.562
you know,
994
00:27:18.602 --> 00:27:20.082
suicide bombers blowing themselves up.
995
00:27:20.322 --> 00:27:20.712
Keep in mind,
996
00:27:20.761 --> 00:27:21.641
when I was in Nigeria,
997
00:27:21.682 --> 00:27:23.302
it was before the rise of Boko Haram.
998
00:27:23.362 --> 00:27:23.881
It was essential,
999
00:27:23.962 --> 00:27:25.281
and I write about this in the book,
1000
00:27:25.401 --> 00:27:26.281
Manufacturing Delusion,
1001
00:27:26.322 --> 00:27:27.482
which your audience should go get
1002
00:27:27.682 --> 00:27:28.322
because it actually has some,
1003
00:27:28.462 --> 00:27:29.871
the CIA had to clear the book,
1004
00:27:30.072 --> 00:27:30.991
which took about 6 months,
1005
00:27:31.082 --> 00:27:31.661
by the way.
1006
00:27:31.881 --> 00:27:32.082
Uh,
1007
00:27:32.202 --> 00:27:33.102
so that was fun.
1008
00:27:33.641 --> 00:27:34.031
Um,
1009
00:27:34.202 --> 00:27:34.411
but,
1010
00:27:34.521 --> 00:27:34.641
you know,
1011
00:27:34.722 --> 00:27:35.112
I have to,
1012
00:27:35.161 --> 00:27:35.842
it's my obligation.
1013
00:27:35.943 --> 00:27:36.264
So I did.
1014
00:27:36.343 --> 00:27:38.663
I cleared it with the CIA and they had no problem with,
1015
00:27:38.734 --> 00:27:38.973
uh,
1016
00:27:39.063 --> 00:27:40.293
with really anything actually,
1017
00:27:40.303 --> 00:27:41.303
cause I was pretty careful.
1018
00:27:41.744 --> 00:27:42.183
But
1019
00:27:42.543 --> 00:27:42.973
the,
1020
00:27:43.063 --> 00:27:43.303
uh,
1021
00:27:43.343 --> 00:27:47.524
the story of Nigeria was I'm here and I'm seeing the very kind of beginning,
1022
00:27:48.144 --> 00:27:48.423
like the,
1023
00:27:48.463 --> 00:27:48.784
like the,
1024
00:27:48.864 --> 00:27:51.083
the first elements of,
1025
00:27:51.583 --> 00:27:53.683
of a radicalized society,
1026
00:27:53.864 --> 00:27:54.624
but in places,
1027
00:27:54.744 --> 00:27:55.323
not everywhere.
1028
00:27:55.384 --> 00:27:56.093
It's half Christian,
1029
00:27:56.134 --> 00:27:56.864
half Nigerian,
1030
00:27:56.904 --> 00:27:57.063
I mean,
1031
00:27:57.144 --> 00:27:57.293
uh,
1032
00:27:57.303 --> 00:27:57.463
half,
1033
00:27:57.543 --> 00:27:57.734
uh,
1034
00:27:57.744 --> 00:27:58.063
Muslim,
1035
00:27:58.124 --> 00:27:58.384
for example.
1036
00:27:59.036 --> 00:27:59.706
in that country.
1037
00:28:00.046 --> 00:28:00.586
So it's half
1038
00:28:00.725 --> 00:28:01.235
half Christian,
1039
00:28:01.276 --> 00:28:01.926
half Muslim,
1040
00:28:02.125 --> 00:28:04.166
you're already dealing with a society that is fractured.
1041
00:28:04.245 --> 00:28:05.206
You're not gonna have everybody.
1042
00:28:05.485 --> 00:28:06.005
And so then I say,
1043
00:28:06.086 --> 00:28:06.206
OK,
1044
00:28:06.296 --> 00:28:06.326
well,
1045
00:28:06.406 --> 00:28:08.235
what are the things that you do when you look at things like,
1046
00:28:08.426 --> 00:28:09.806
this is where you get into the tactical,
1047
00:28:10.125 --> 00:28:10.546
the,
1048
00:28:10.566 --> 00:28:10.995
um,
1049
00:28:11.206 --> 00:28:12.086
isolation,
1050
00:28:12.245 --> 00:28:12.965
confession,
1051
00:28:13.086 --> 00:28:14.326
identity construction.
1052
00:28:14.556 --> 00:28:16.865
These are all different tools to make people
1053
00:28:17.166 --> 00:28:19.225
break from what they had previously known.
1054
00:28:19.485 --> 00:28:19.725
Uh,
1055
00:28:19.796 --> 00:28:20.086
I mean,
1056
00:28:20.206 --> 00:28:21.066
there's different,
1057
00:28:21.725 --> 00:28:22.306
there's different,
1058
00:28:22.446 --> 00:28:22.676
uh,
1059
00:28:22.686 --> 00:28:24.086
experts that I draw upon for this.
1060
00:28:24.206 --> 00:28:24.586
For example,
1061
00:28:24.806 --> 00:28:25.586
Yost Mirle,
1062
00:28:25.725 --> 00:28:26.215
who was
1063
00:28:26.530 --> 00:28:27.510
A Dutchman
1064
00:28:28.050 --> 00:28:32.550
who fled the Nazis in the Netherlands under Nazi occupation in World War II,
1065
00:28:32.849 --> 00:28:34.510
was actually in prison for a short while,
1066
00:28:34.569 --> 00:28:36.530
and then became part of the Dutch army in exile.
1067
00:28:36.609 --> 00:28:37.719
He's a psychiatrist.
1068
00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:39.310
And so he was involved in
1069
00:28:40.209 --> 00:28:41.280
information operations,
1070
00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:44.089
essentially counterpropaganda and propaganda operations in the
1071
00:28:44.089 --> 00:28:45.530
Second World War against the Nazis,
1072
00:28:45.729 --> 00:28:49.969
but he also debriefed a bunch of members of the SS and so he took this approach of,
1073
00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:50.939
OK,
1074
00:28:51.219 --> 00:28:54.459
how did you guys get people to be this crazy,
1075
00:28:54.540 --> 00:28:54.699
right?
1076
00:28:54.750 --> 00:28:56.479
Like what did you do to people?
1077
00:28:56.890 --> 00:28:57.329
And,
1078
00:28:57.339 --> 00:28:57.530
uh,
1079
00:28:57.540 --> 00:28:59.000
the two pillars,
1080
00:28:59.329 --> 00:28:59.810
um,
1081
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:00.650
of his,
1082
00:29:00.699 --> 00:29:01.859
what he calls mentaide,
1083
00:29:02.020 --> 00:29:02.369
which,
1084
00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:04.520
it's essentially a form of brainwashing,
1085
00:29:04.969 --> 00:29:05.510
are,
1086
00:29:05.589 --> 00:29:06.119
uh,
1087
00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:07.680
confusion and degradation.
1088
00:29:08.180 --> 00:29:10.739
So you can be confused and degraded if you are put
1089
00:29:10.739 --> 00:29:12.739
into a cell in a war and you're made to,
1090
00:29:12.829 --> 00:29:12.930
you know,
1091
00:29:12.979 --> 00:29:15.199
they shout things at you and they're beating you with sticks and everything else.
1092
00:29:15.719 --> 00:29:16.479
But in a different way,
1093
00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:19.739
you can also be confused and degraded in a Western society.
1094
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.040
It's just not necessarily the state that is doing it
1095
00:29:23.040 --> 00:29:25.020
to you or not doing it to you with violence,
1096
00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:25.560
um,
1097
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.119
but doing it to you with messaging,
1098
00:29:27.199 --> 00:29:28.199
doing it to you with propaganda.
1099
00:29:28.239 --> 00:29:28.719
And Yost,
1100
00:29:28.849 --> 00:29:29.209
by the way,
1101
00:29:29.310 --> 00:29:30.780
he wrote this book 70 years ago,
1102
00:29:30.949 --> 00:29:31.239
um,
1103
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.640
called The Rape of the Mind,
1104
00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:33.520
which is where Micide,
1105
00:29:33.530 --> 00:29:34.599
he lays out this
1106
00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:35.619
Micidal theory.
1107
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:36.319
He's,
1108
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.339
he explicitly says in the beginning of the book,
1109
00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:39.859
I studied Nazis,
1110
00:29:39.959 --> 00:29:41.300
I know how they basically
1111
00:29:41.750 --> 00:29:43.430
Took over all these people's minds,
1112
00:29:43.589 --> 00:29:44.829
but understand that
1113
00:29:45.030 --> 00:29:47.270
this can and will happen in Western countries too,
1114
00:29:47.310 --> 00:29:48.130
and it will just happen
1115
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.930
in smaller groups
1116
00:29:50.069 --> 00:29:51.660
and not to the same extreme,
1117
00:29:51.949 --> 00:29:52.650
hopefully,
1118
00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:53.869
but this is,
1119
00:29:53.989 --> 00:29:56.369
these things can still happen to you
1120
00:29:56.550 --> 00:29:59.420
in these countries where you have radical belief,
1121
00:29:59.589 --> 00:29:59.910
and I mean,
1122
00:29:59.989 --> 00:30:00.229
by the way,
1123
00:30:00.270 --> 00:30:00.469
I would,
1124
00:30:00.550 --> 00:30:01.250
I would argue
1125
00:30:01.589 --> 00:30:02.189
that for example,
1126
00:30:02.229 --> 00:30:04.810
the whole trans agenda in America today
1127
00:30:05.229 --> 00:30:06.430
is a form of radicalism.
1128
00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:07.400
Right,
1129
00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:08.849
so not everyone buys into it.
1130
00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:10.479
It's maybe a 10 or 15%
1131
00:30:11.300 --> 00:30:12.079
issue in this country,
1132
00:30:12.180 --> 00:30:12.500
but
1133
00:30:12.699 --> 00:30:12.979
as you know,
1134
00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:13.219
Stu,
1135
00:30:13.300 --> 00:30:14.640
that's still millions of people.
1136
00:30:15.060 --> 00:30:17.410
Millions of people that believe something that is fundamentally crazy.
1137
00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:17.780
Yeah,
1138
00:30:17.969 --> 00:30:18.170
and,
1139
00:30:18.219 --> 00:30:18.959
and so,
1140
00:30:19.020 --> 00:30:19.030
uh,
1141
00:30:19.140 --> 00:30:21.459
something that they didn't believe not that long ago.
1142
00:30:21.540 --> 00:30:21.729
I mean,
1143
00:30:22.219 --> 00:30:24.660
even the left didn't believe this stuff not that long ago,
1144
00:30:24.699 --> 00:30:25.040
and
1145
00:30:25.260 --> 00:30:26.900
I maintain they really don't believe it,
1146
00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:27.500
even,
1147
00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:28.329
even now,
1148
00:30:28.619 --> 00:30:31.680
but I think it ties into something that you mentioned on identity construction,
1149
00:30:32.390 --> 00:30:32.459
um.
1150
00:30:33.439 --> 00:30:34.819
You talk about how
1151
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.089
and it's interesting because I read the book Atomic Habits.
1152
00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:38.839
I don't know if you know this book,
1153
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.839
it's a big bestseller about how to try to change your life,
1154
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:41.920
right,
1155
00:30:41.959 --> 00:30:44.119
and how to make good habits instead of bad ones.
1156
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.380
One of the things they argue for in the book
1157
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.430
is to tie your habits,
1158
00:30:48.560 --> 00:30:50.020
the things that you want to be,
1159
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.319
to your identity,
1160
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.079
so it becomes part of you and you and you're almost like forced to defend it.
1161
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:56.219
So it's not,
1162
00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:57.800
I want to be a runner someday,
1163
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:59.180
it's like I am a runner.
1164
00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:00.939
Like thinking of that in that context,
1165
00:31:00.979 --> 00:31:02.599
and it reminded me when I was reading this
1166
00:31:02.979 --> 00:31:04.160
about how you say
1167
00:31:04.540 --> 00:31:07.760
that same tactic can be manipulated for evil as well,
1168
00:31:08.300 --> 00:31:08.719
where
1169
00:31:08.939 --> 00:31:11.010
if you get people across that line where they
1170
00:31:11.010 --> 00:31:14.040
believe their identity is I believe in trans kids,
1171
00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:15.500
and that's where they are in their mind,
1172
00:31:15.739 --> 00:31:18.579
they defend it with their soul as if you're attacking them,
1173
00:31:18.739 --> 00:31:20.459
not this obvious idea.
1174
00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:23.119
This is a really effective tactic for the left.
1175
00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:23.729
Well,
1176
00:31:23.770 --> 00:31:25.130
it's fun to have an interviewer who
1177
00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:27.410
actually understands the identity construction chapter,
1178
00:31:27.489 --> 00:31:28.000
so thank you.
1179
00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:29.319
Appreciate that.
1180
00:31:29.719 --> 00:31:30.300
Sometimes people just read it,
1181
00:31:30.329 --> 00:31:30.560
they're like,
1182
00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:31.400
identity construction.
1183
00:31:31.459 --> 00:31:31.599
What,
1184
00:31:31.689 --> 00:31:32.170
what is this thing?
1185
00:31:32.290 --> 00:31:32.869
What is this thing?
1186
00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:33.250
Um,
1187
00:31:33.329 --> 00:31:33.609
but yes,
1188
00:31:33.689 --> 00:31:33.810
no,
1189
00:31:33.890 --> 00:31:35.140
you're hitting on exactly what it is,
1190
00:31:35.209 --> 00:31:36.280
which is you're trying to,
1191
00:31:36.449 --> 00:31:39.550
you're trying to force the beliefs and the person to be
1192
00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:42.849
inextricable in a way where they will defend it,
1193
00:31:43.099 --> 00:31:43.319
uh,
1194
00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:44.400
even more angrily,
1195
00:31:44.479 --> 00:31:44.849
for example,
1196
00:31:44.930 --> 00:31:46.630
if you try to approach it with.
1197
00:31:47.822 --> 00:31:50.602
facts or with data that would disprove it or anything else.
1198
00:31:50.771 --> 00:31:51.251
And in the book,
1199
00:31:51.332 --> 00:31:52.692
I get into cults,
1200
00:31:53.011 --> 00:31:53.131
you know,
1201
00:31:53.251 --> 00:31:54.161
think of it in this way,
1202
00:31:54.411 --> 00:31:56.592
a lot of this mind control stuff is almost like a,
1203
00:31:56.651 --> 00:31:58.472
is really a question of scale
1204
00:31:58.612 --> 00:31:59.432
and force.
1205
00:31:59.732 --> 00:32:01.371
And so North Korea,
1206
00:32:01.612 --> 00:32:01.771
as,
1207
00:32:01.852 --> 00:32:02.972
and I talk about this in the book,
1208
00:32:03.092 --> 00:32:05.031
North Korea is essentially a giant
1209
00:32:05.202 --> 00:32:05.832
cult
1210
00:32:06.092 --> 00:32:06.511
country,
1211
00:32:07.011 --> 00:32:07.131
right?
1212
00:32:07.182 --> 00:32:07.371
It's,
1213
00:32:07.401 --> 00:32:08.271
it's really the,
1214
00:32:08.322 --> 00:32:08.991
the leadership,
1215
00:32:09.092 --> 00:32:09.452
the whole thing.
1216
00:32:09.491 --> 00:32:10.671
It's actually technically a net crop.
1217
00:32:10.904 --> 00:32:11.244
Democracy
1218
00:32:12.053 --> 00:32:12.713
because
1219
00:32:12.894 --> 00:32:13.173
the,
1220
00:32:13.293 --> 00:32:16.213
like the chairman of the Communist Party forever is Kim Il Sung,
1221
00:32:16.293 --> 00:32:16.813
who died,
1222
00:32:16.933 --> 00:32:17.053
you know,
1223
00:32:17.203 --> 00:32:18.433
decades and decades ago,
1224
00:32:18.693 --> 00:32:20.124
but he's still technically the chairman.
1225
00:32:20.333 --> 00:32:21.213
So the whole thing is,
1226
00:32:21.293 --> 00:32:22.833
is effectively a cult.
1227
00:32:23.374 --> 00:32:23.683
Now,
1228
00:32:23.774 --> 00:32:24.693
you don't have that in America,
1229
00:32:24.744 --> 00:32:25.793
but you will have
1230
00:32:26.014 --> 00:32:26.453
in,
1231
00:32:26.573 --> 00:32:26.723
uh,
1232
00:32:26.774 --> 00:32:27.774
in this country,
1233
00:32:27.973 --> 00:32:28.134
you know,
1234
00:32:28.213 --> 00:32:29.124
the Nexium cult,
1235
00:32:29.134 --> 00:32:30.134
or you'll have,
1236
00:32:30.173 --> 00:32:30.723
uh,
1237
00:32:30.994 --> 00:32:31.284
uh,
1238
00:32:31.413 --> 00:32:31.754
the,
1239
00:32:31.774 --> 00:32:31.963
uh,
1240
00:32:31.973 --> 00:32:32.813
Jim Jones cult,
1241
00:32:32.854 --> 00:32:33.093
and I,
1242
00:32:33.173 --> 00:32:34.333
I talk about that in the book.
1243
00:32:34.416 --> 00:32:35.536
They didn't actually drink Kool-Aid,
1244
00:32:35.576 --> 00:32:36.076
by the way.
1245
00:32:36.135 --> 00:32:36.656
It was something,
1246
00:32:36.776 --> 00:32:37.576
it was something else.
1247
00:32:39.125 --> 00:32:39.576
Flavor Aid.
1248
00:32:39.656 --> 00:32:39.885
Thank you.
1249
00:32:39.936 --> 00:32:40.735
It was Flavor Aid.
1250
00:32:40.926 --> 00:32:41.176
Uh,
1251
00:32:41.225 --> 00:32:43.086
I'm actually blanking on the second for the thing.
1252
00:32:43.375 --> 00:32:43.725
Something else,
1253
00:32:43.796 --> 00:32:44.015
by the way,
1254
00:32:44.086 --> 00:32:44.816
they didn't make in the book,
1255
00:32:44.885 --> 00:32:45.086
and I,
1256
00:32:45.135 --> 00:32:45.245
I,
1257
00:32:45.336 --> 00:32:46.656
a lot of what I want people,
1258
00:32:46.776 --> 00:32:49.956
why I want people to go get it is because they'll just learn some cool stuff
1259
00:32:50.255 --> 00:32:51.676
and they'll learn about
1260
00:32:52.015 --> 00:32:52.475
how
1261
00:32:52.816 --> 00:32:55.375
the idea of a secret police force that will just
1262
00:32:55.375 --> 00:32:58.015
terrorize everybody and force everybody to do whatever you want,
1263
00:32:58.336 --> 00:32:58.495
uh,
1264
00:32:58.615 --> 00:33:00.875
was really a 16th century invention.
1265
00:33:01.209 --> 00:33:01.410
Uh,
1266
00:33:01.530 --> 00:33:03.849
that then Hitler and Stalin explicitly,
1267
00:33:03.930 --> 00:33:04.119
I mean,
1268
00:33:04.130 --> 00:33:05.209
they were very aware of this,
1269
00:33:05.250 --> 00:33:07.109
explicitly used as a model
1270
00:33:07.489 --> 00:33:07.930
for their own,
1271
00:33:08.010 --> 00:33:09.150
which is you have to create,
1272
00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:10.329
whether it's brown shirts,
1273
00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:11.089
the SS,
1274
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:11.609
uh,
1275
00:33:11.729 --> 00:33:13.209
or the NKVD or the,
1276
00:33:13.329 --> 00:33:14.270
the Cheka in the,
1277
00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:15.199
in the case of Russia.
1278
00:33:15.329 --> 00:33:15.930
First it was the,
1279
00:33:16.010 --> 00:33:16.689
it was the Okrana,
1280
00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:17.550
then it was the Cheka,
1281
00:33:17.770 --> 00:33:18.599
then it was the NKVD,
1282
00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:19.359
then it was the KGB.
1283
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.599
They changed the names a million times.
1284
00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:21.449
Point is,
1285
00:33:21.780 --> 00:33:22.329
Um,
1286
00:33:22.910 --> 00:33:23.140
when you,
1287
00:33:23.189 --> 00:33:23.709
when you do this,
1288
00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:24.829
you create a,
1289
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.530
a group within your society that is only loyal to you,
1290
00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:31.290
and that is your action arm to terrify everybody.
1291
00:33:31.699 --> 00:33:31.910
Um,
1292
00:33:31.989 --> 00:33:34.369
that's actually an Ivan the Terrible 16th century,
1293
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:35.010
uh,
1294
00:33:35.140 --> 00:33:36.390
pioneered thing,
1295
00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:36.989
if you will.
1296
00:33:37.180 --> 00:33:38.089
So you learned that in the book.
1297
00:33:38.199 --> 00:33:38.469
Um,
1298
00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:39.270
something that got cut,
1299
00:33:39.329 --> 00:33:39.670
by the way,
1300
00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:40.020
was that,
1301
00:33:40.030 --> 00:33:40.619
you know that
1302
00:33:40.790 --> 00:33:42.010
Lemmings don't commit suicide.
1303
00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:43.229
That's just a total myth.
1304
00:33:43.790 --> 00:33:44.270
It's a myth.
1305
00:33:44.300 --> 00:33:44.790
And in fact,
1306
00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:45.189
in fact,
1307
00:33:45.310 --> 00:33:45.800
yes.
1308
00:33:45.989 --> 00:33:46.189
In fact,
1309
00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.030
it's from a documentary that was,
1310
00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:48.270
uh,
1311
00:33:48.349 --> 00:33:49.729
a Disney documentary
1312
00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:50.410
where they,
1313
00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:51.359
they basically
1314
00:33:51.689 --> 00:33:52.770
saw a whole bunch of these,
1315
00:33:52.969 --> 00:33:54.420
a whole bunch of these lemmings,
1316
00:33:54.650 --> 00:33:55.199
and like,
1317
00:33:55.329 --> 00:33:57.619
they kind of like shoved them off the cliff
1318
00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:00.170
and they took like video of them falling down and they're like,
1319
00:34:00.290 --> 00:34:00.829
look at them all.
1320
00:34:00.930 --> 00:34:01.089
I mean,
1321
00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:02.910
it's crazy when you get lemmings,
1322
00:34:03.050 --> 00:34:03.339
think about,
1323
00:34:03.449 --> 00:34:03.630
yeah,
1324
00:34:03.849 --> 00:34:04.680
think about this makes,
1325
00:34:04.810 --> 00:34:05.890
they move in herds,
1326
00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:07.250
but they don't commit mass suicide.
1327
00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:07.770
That's gross.
1328
00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.070
What do you mean commit mass suicide?
1329
00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:09.340
What,
1330
00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.389
what species of animal
1331
00:34:11.560 --> 00:34:12.750
commits mass suicide?
1332
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.010
But the point here that I was gonna make in
1333
00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:16.129
the book is that only human beings actually do this.
1334
00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:17.530
Only human beings will be like,
1335
00:34:17.570 --> 00:34:17.889
you know what,
1336
00:34:17.958 --> 00:34:20.489
we're all gonna kill ourselves simultaneously because like,
1337
00:34:20.570 --> 00:34:20.989
why not?
1338
00:34:21.350 --> 00:34:21.909
Um,
1339
00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:22.750
so yeah,
1340
00:34:22.830 --> 00:34:23.100
that's,
1341
00:34:23.149 --> 00:34:23.228
uh,
1342
00:34:23.310 --> 00:34:25.290
that shows the extent to which mind control,
1343
00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:25.899
uh,
1344
00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:26.310
really works.
1345
00:34:26.389 --> 00:34:26.469
Yeah,
1346
00:34:26.550 --> 00:34:26.938
the Lemmings,
1347
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.270
Lemmings do not commit mass suicide.
1348
00:34:28.310 --> 00:34:29.889
So there's a lot of cool stuff like that in the book,
1349
00:34:30.149 --> 00:34:30.300
but,
1350
00:34:30.310 --> 00:34:30.458
uh,
1351
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:31.790
your identity construction question,
1352
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.070
yes,
1353
00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:36.139
what you do is you want people to have the beliefs essentially as their identity,
1354
00:34:36.389 --> 00:34:37.330
and that is.
1355
00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:38.350
Key in cults,
1356
00:34:38.429 --> 00:34:39.199
it is key in,
1357
00:34:39.208 --> 00:34:39.418
uh,
1358
00:34:39.429 --> 00:34:40.870
totalitarian societies,
1359
00:34:41.149 --> 00:34:41.708
and it is key,
1360
00:34:41.750 --> 00:34:42.228
unfortunately,
1361
00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:43.610
increasingly with
1362
00:34:43.830 --> 00:34:46.409
some of the beliefs that the Democratic Party has adopted,
1363
00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:46.800
uh,
1364
00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:47.649
specific beliefs,
1365
00:34:47.668 --> 00:34:48.668
and I get into what those are.
1366
00:34:48.909 --> 00:34:49.030
Buck,
1367
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:49.949
I have like one minute left.
1368
00:34:49.989 --> 00:34:51.270
I want to follow 11 more question.
1369
00:34:51.330 --> 00:34:52.458
We were talking about Paul Ehrlich,
1370
00:34:52.469 --> 00:34:53.668
who died this week.
1371
00:34:53.998 --> 00:34:55.908
And back then the day he's saying,
1372
00:34:55.958 --> 00:34:56.158
OK,
1373
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:56.918
overpopulation,
1374
00:34:56.958 --> 00:34:57.979
it's the worst thing in the world,
1375
00:34:58.819 --> 00:35:00.239
and America bought into it in large part.
1376
00:35:00.479 --> 00:35:03.198
I would argue because they had a lack of information at the time,
1377
00:35:03.208 --> 00:35:04.678
there was nobody to push back really.
1378
00:35:04.918 --> 00:35:06.878
It's just whatever was on TV is what you believed.
1379
00:35:07.358 --> 00:35:08.799
You argue in the book that the problem now is.
1380
00:35:08.929 --> 00:35:09.929
Not lack of information,
1381
00:35:10.209 --> 00:35:11.419
it's oversaturation.
1382
00:35:11.850 --> 00:35:12.689
We're hitting this.
1383
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.689
We're hitting the AI era coming forward.
1384
00:35:14.750 --> 00:35:16.030
This is only going to get worse
1385
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.530
if you have about 45 seconds.
1386
00:35:17.649 --> 00:35:18.489
Give me like how do we,
1387
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:19.370
how do we solve this?
1388
00:35:19.439 --> 00:35:20.530
I can get the full details,
1389
00:35:20.540 --> 00:35:20.810
of course,
1390
00:35:20.850 --> 00:35:21.250
in the book,
1391
00:35:21.350 --> 00:35:23.850
but give me a summary of something that we can do.
1392
00:35:24.979 --> 00:35:28.669
There's a chapter on this toward the end on artificial intelligence and how
1393
00:35:28.669 --> 00:35:31.229
that this is only gonna get worse because I think that they can,
1394
00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:32.790
they can really sub-target,
1395
00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:33.100
uh,
1396
00:35:33.149 --> 00:35:35.229
for people who are more susceptible to certain
1397
00:35:35.229 --> 00:35:37.270
approaches with this and certain belief systems and,
1398
00:35:37.379 --> 00:35:38.209
and different
1399
00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:39.379
political causes,
1400
00:35:39.429 --> 00:35:40.409
which is really what this is
1401
00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:40.939
ultimately.
1402
00:35:41.030 --> 00:35:42.330
It's about power ultimately.
1403
00:35:42.510 --> 00:35:42.780
Um,
1404
00:35:42.830 --> 00:35:43.030
the,
1405
00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:43.850
the real
1406
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:45.270
way around this,
1407
00:35:45.310 --> 00:35:45.590
or the,
1408
00:35:45.669 --> 00:35:48.590
the real fir first step in this is just live not by lies.
1409
00:35:48.649 --> 00:35:49.830
It's Solzhenitsyn's.
1410
00:35:50.399 --> 00:35:51.199
Live not by lies.
1411
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.639
Do not anyone who is lying to you is causing a problem.
1412
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.169
Anyone who is lying to you does not have your interests at heart,
1413
00:35:57.389 --> 00:35:57.600
uh,
1414
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.189
when you're talking about any of these issues.
1415
00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:02.550
And so you just have to look for the lie right away every time.
1416
00:36:02.830 --> 00:36:03.060
And,
1417
00:36:03.080 --> 00:36:03.239
you know,
1418
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:03.989
this is the thing like with,
1419
00:36:04.040 --> 00:36:04.760
with climate change,
1420
00:36:04.919 --> 00:36:05.010
like,
1421
00:36:05.070 --> 00:36:05.179
well,
1422
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.719
the guy's wrong and he made up the data,
1423
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.780
but like it's for a good cause.
1424
00:36:07.919 --> 00:36:08.459
No.
1425
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:10.090
Same thing with COVID,
1426
00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:10.260
right?
1427
00:36:10.310 --> 00:36:10.570
It's like,
1428
00:36:10.620 --> 00:36:11.070
oh well,
1429
00:36:11.139 --> 00:36:11.260
you know,
1430
00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:12.010
we pretend that,
1431
00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:12.250
uh,
1432
00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:13.659
natural immunity doesn't exist anymore,
1433
00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:14.580
but it's for a good cause.
1434
00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:15.360
No,
1435
00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:16.120
that's
1436
00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:17.120
not gonna fly.
1437
00:36:17.419 --> 00:36:19.129
So you have to always look for the lie,
1438
00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:20.879
and that is the step of protecting yourself.
1439
00:36:21.219 --> 00:36:23.639
And also watch Stu's awesome show because
1440
00:36:23.939 --> 00:36:25.320
he doesn't fall for those lies,
1441
00:36:25.330 --> 00:36:25.739
like them,
1442
00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:26.969
like those fools out there.
1443
00:36:27.139 --> 00:36:27.290
I,
1444
00:36:27.379 --> 00:36:28.100
I try my best.
1445
00:36:28.169 --> 00:36:28.250
I,
1446
00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:30.300
that's why I read books by Buck Sexton,
1447
00:36:30.409 --> 00:36:30.530
uh,
1448
00:36:30.580 --> 00:36:31.060
to,
1449
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.719
to learn kind of the recipe about how they do this
1450
00:36:33.939 --> 00:36:34.219
to you.
1451
00:36:34.340 --> 00:36:34.540
Of course,
1452
00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:35.179
Buck is the co-host.
1453
00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.500
Host of Clay Travis Buck's Texton Show,
1454
00:36:37.939 --> 00:36:41.610
author of Manufacturing Delusion How the Left Uses Brainwashing,
1455
00:36:41.899 --> 00:36:43.689
Indoctrination and Propaganda Against You,
1456
00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:44.899
and Blaze alum,
1457
00:36:44.979 --> 00:36:45.729
we should not forget,
1458
00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:46.639
of course,
1459
00:36:47.209 --> 00:36:48.399
Premiere Radio friend,
1460
00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:50.280
Blaze TV alum
1461
00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:51.379
from back in the day.
1462
00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:53.020
Be sure to grab a copy wherever you get your books.
1463
00:36:53.060 --> 00:36:53.580
This is really great.
1464
00:36:53.620 --> 00:36:55.939
It's kind of like the recipe on everything that's going on right now.
1465
00:36:56.219 --> 00:36:57.739
It will be explained in detail for you.
1466
00:36:57.939 --> 00:36:58.659
Get this book.
1467
00:36:58.939 --> 00:36:59.139
Buck,
1468
00:36:59.459 --> 00:37:00.379
thanks so much for coming on the program,
1469
00:37:00.469 --> 00:37:00.570
man.
1470
00:37:00.600 --> 00:37:01.439
It's great to see you.
1471
00:37:01.979 --> 00:37:02.370
Great to see you.
1472
00:37:02.419 --> 00:37:02.649
Thank you,
1473
00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:02.919
Stu.
1474
00:37:11.939 --> 00:37:12.239
Well,
1475
00:37:12.340 --> 00:37:13.479
if you're in Illinois.
1476
00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:15.239
You have a great,
1477
00:37:15.379 --> 00:37:16.090
great life,
1478
00:37:16.370 --> 00:37:18.389
but you also have a primary today,
1479
00:37:18.520 --> 00:37:18.959
uh,
1480
00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:20.649
big primary on the Democratic side.
1481
00:37:20.689 --> 00:37:22.169
There's a bunch of them up and down the ballot,
1482
00:37:22.449 --> 00:37:23.709
kind of the divide
1483
00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:24.879
between,
1484
00:37:24.889 --> 00:37:25.199
uh,
1485
00:37:25.209 --> 00:37:26.310
different factions
1486
00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:27.250
of the left.
1487
00:37:27.370 --> 00:37:29.070
Maybe the biggest race
1488
00:37:29.330 --> 00:37:30.000
is an interesting one.
1489
00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:31.510
I should check this as I'm talking to you,
1490
00:37:31.570 --> 00:37:32.080
um,
1491
00:37:32.409 --> 00:37:33.530
go on one of these prediction markets,
1492
00:37:33.570 --> 00:37:34.429
as you may know,
1493
00:37:34.850 --> 00:37:37.310
I'm gonna be doing a show about prediction markets coming up very soon.
1494
00:37:37.729 --> 00:37:37.739
Uh,
1495
00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:39.760
and the show is called Predictable with Stu,
1496
00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:43.070
going to be available to you in the middle of April.
1497
00:37:43.290 --> 00:37:45.629
And one of the things we're going to be talking about a lot of these races,
1498
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:45.889
uh,
1499
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:46.570
and
1500
00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:47.409
it is,
1501
00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:47.899
uh,
1502
00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:48.129
you know,
1503
00:37:48.169 --> 00:37:50.459
it's kind of an interesting thing to,
1504
00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:50.719
uh,
1505
00:37:50.810 --> 00:37:51.810
to see play out
1506
00:37:52.929 --> 00:37:53.649
across the country,
1507
00:37:53.810 --> 00:37:54.719
especially when you come through the,
1508
00:37:54.729 --> 00:37:55.489
the primary season.
1509
00:37:55.729 --> 00:37:58.429
Much more difficult to predict than the actual elections.
1510
00:37:58.770 --> 00:37:58.780
Um,
1511
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.310
it's a little bit more wild.
1512
00:38:00.449 --> 00:38:02.129
The polling is not nearly as good.
1513
00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:02.459
Um,
1514
00:38:03.250 --> 00:38:04.889
so it can be a little bit difficult,
1515
00:38:05.010 --> 00:38:05.409
but let's see,
1516
00:38:05.449 --> 00:38:07.770
we have the Illinois Democratic Senate nominee,
1517
00:38:07.810 --> 00:38:08.989
that's the race we're talking about,
1518
00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:09.580
um,
1519
00:38:09.810 --> 00:38:11.669
and a very small,
1520
00:38:11.729 --> 00:38:12.489
a small lead now.
1521
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:13.870
It's been about a 50/50
1522
00:38:14.770 --> 00:38:16.110
race in the prediction markets
1523
00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:17.709
as we're leading up to vote time
1524
00:38:18.209 --> 00:38:19.370
between Juliana Stratton.
1525
00:38:19.449 --> 00:38:20.689
She's the one that was
1526
00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:22.489
endorsed by Pritzker,
1527
00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:23.149
who's the main,
1528
00:38:23.649 --> 00:38:24.159
who's the governor.
1529
00:38:24.209 --> 00:38:25.350
She was the lieutenant governor,
1530
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:26.209
you know,
1531
00:38:26.370 --> 00:38:28.409
Tammy Duckworth also came along,
1532
00:38:28.530 --> 00:38:29.689
big figures in Illinois.
1533
00:38:29.979 --> 00:38:30.979
And then uh
1534
00:38:31.129 --> 00:38:32.139
we're just going to call him Raja.
1535
00:38:32.219 --> 00:38:33.479
That's what people are tend to be calling him.
1536
00:38:33.729 --> 00:38:34.020
Why?
1537
00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:34.830
Because it's like a,
1538
00:38:34.939 --> 00:38:35.449
I think it's,
1539
00:38:35.540 --> 00:38:36.679
is it Indian last name?
1540
00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:37.179
I'm not sure.
1541
00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:38.120
I think it's Indian.
1542
00:38:38.739 --> 00:38:40.580
And there's about 644 letters,
1543
00:38:40.699 --> 00:38:42.370
lots of O's and H's and I's in it.
1544
00:38:42.530 --> 00:38:42.540
I,
1545
00:38:42.580 --> 00:38:42.699
I,
1546
00:38:42.820 --> 00:38:43.739
I don't know how to pronounce it.
1547
00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:44.820
I'm not even going to attempt it.
1548
00:38:44.979 --> 00:38:45.729
And that's the thing,
1549
00:38:45.909 --> 00:38:47.139
you don't expect that from me.
1550
00:38:47.419 --> 00:38:48.340
You didn't expect me to know.
1551
00:38:48.729 --> 00:38:50.570
How to pronounce the names of the candidates.
1552
00:38:50.689 --> 00:38:51.750
That's not what I do here.
1553
00:38:52.129 --> 00:38:54.530
But he spent like $29 million on ads,
1554
00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:56.500
outspent his competitors by a lot.
1555
00:38:56.770 --> 00:38:58.449
You're at a 50/50 type of race here.
1556
00:38:58.530 --> 00:39:00.350
There's a third candidate as well in the race.
1557
00:39:00.489 --> 00:39:02.159
It's not like Texas where there's a runoff,
1558
00:39:02.409 --> 00:39:04.370
so it's going to theoretically be decided,
1559
00:39:04.449 --> 00:39:05.080
but it could be very,
1560
00:39:05.169 --> 00:39:05.850
very close today.
1561
00:39:05.949 --> 00:39:06.280
Right now,
1562
00:39:06.290 --> 00:39:06.969
Raja
1563
00:39:07.290 --> 00:39:08.669
has a 59%
1564
00:39:09.169 --> 00:39:10.169
on Calci,
1565
00:39:10.250 --> 00:39:10.909
for example,
1566
00:39:11.209 --> 00:39:13.070
when you talk about that market going forward.
1567
00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:15.850
And then we have another upcoming primary,
1568
00:39:15.889 --> 00:39:17.010
which is a fascinating one
1569
00:39:17.330 --> 00:39:17.889
in Maine.
1570
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:18.370
Well,
1571
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:20.189
they're going to be going up against Susan Collins,
1572
00:39:20.439 --> 00:39:22.639
who's won many times but is always vulnerable,
1573
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.300
and Maine is obviously a blue state.
1574
00:39:24.600 --> 00:39:25.760
Hard for a Republican to win there.
1575
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:27.820
You have to kind of be a Susan Collins type
1576
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:28.699
to have a chance.
1577
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.370
normally,
1578
00:39:29.610 --> 00:39:31.179
though Collins isn't particularly,
1579
00:39:31.959 --> 00:39:32.320
you know,
1580
00:39:32.959 --> 00:39:34.189
popular in Maine right now.
1581
00:39:35.129 --> 00:39:36.879
Now they have a somewhat popular governor.
1582
00:39:36.919 --> 00:39:38.120
Her name is Janet Mills.
1583
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.830
She was recruited heavily by the Democrats.
1584
00:39:41.120 --> 00:39:42.225
They got her into the Race.
1585
00:39:42.235 --> 00:39:44.415
This was assumed to be this major coup
1586
00:39:44.935 --> 00:39:46.334
for her to be in the race,
1587
00:39:46.834 --> 00:39:49.475
and then some guy with a Nazi tattoo came in and was like,
1588
00:39:49.594 --> 00:39:49.754
Hey,
1589
00:39:49.834 --> 00:39:51.425
what if I run and now he's winning.
1590
00:39:51.875 --> 00:39:53.425
So I kind of a crazy situation.
1591
00:39:53.875 --> 00:39:57.155
There's a new ad by Janet Mills to try to get this primary back into her control,
1592
00:39:59.114 --> 00:40:01.754
and she released this negative ad about some of the
1593
00:40:01.754 --> 00:40:04.254
things that Plattner has been saying over the years.
1594
00:40:04.314 --> 00:40:05.395
They're fascinating.
1595
00:40:06.139 --> 00:40:10.000
Did you know Graham Plattner wrote that women worried about rape need to quote,
1596
00:40:10.139 --> 00:40:13.639
not get so up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to.
1597
00:40:14.090 --> 00:40:14.830
Disgusting.
1598
00:40:15.020 --> 00:40:15.610
Plattner wrote,
1599
00:40:15.649 --> 00:40:16.360
to avoid rape,
1600
00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:17.280
women should quote,
1601
00:40:17.379 --> 00:40:18.929
act like an adult for sake.
1602
00:40:19.129 --> 00:40:19.770
Graham Plattner.
1603
00:40:19.850 --> 00:40:20.300
Seriously,
1604
00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:21.350
we blame the victim.
1605
00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:22.850
That's a horrible thing to say.
1606
00:40:22.969 --> 00:40:23.729
Disqualifying.
1607
00:40:23.830 --> 00:40:24.739
I have not seen this.
1608
00:40:24.879 --> 00:40:25.570
He's a bully.
1609
00:40:25.689 --> 00:40:26.969
This guy gives off a vibe.
1610
00:40:27.129 --> 00:40:29.639
Just no way I could vote for you.
1611
00:40:30.010 --> 00:40:30.370
No,
1612
00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:31.290
Graham Plattner,
1613
00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:32.330
the closer you look,
1614
00:40:32.449 --> 00:40:33.469
the worse it gets.
1615
00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:34.449
I'm Janet Mills,
1616
00:40:34.479 --> 00:40:35.929
and I approve this message.
1617
00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:37.010
She's looking fabulous.
1618
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.810
The both of them looking fabulous in that video.
1619
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:39.850
I love the way he's like,
1620
00:40:39.929 --> 00:40:40.919
he gives off a vibe.
1621
00:40:41.110 --> 00:40:41.330
Yeah,
1622
00:40:41.409 --> 00:40:41.969
he kind of does,
1623
00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:42.570
doesn't he?
1624
00:40:43.080 --> 00:40:46.129
It's it's a sort of rapey Nazi vibe,
1625
00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:47.959
but why wouldn't he be,
1626
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:48.600
by the way,
1627
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.820
up 75 to 26%
1628
00:40:51.479 --> 00:40:54.510
when it comes to the prediction markets over Janet Mills?
1629
00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:55.040
This is going to be,
1630
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.080
this is probably very good for Susan Collins.
1631
00:40:58.189 --> 00:40:59.870
Mills would have been a difficult opponent,
1632
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:00.780
though,
1633
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:01.520
you know,
1634
00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:03.800
Platter seems to keep performing in these polls.
1635
00:41:03.919 --> 00:41:04.879
Just people like the dude.
1636
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:06.229
They just like the Nazi tattoo.
1637
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:06.719
What can I say?
1638
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.520
That's Maine for you.
1639
00:41:08.729 --> 00:41:10.250
I love Nazi tattoos in Maine.
1640
00:41:11.169 --> 00:41:14.159
Hakeem Jeffries is growing threat of a 2027 rebellion.
1641
00:41:14.370 --> 00:41:14.530
Again,
1642
00:41:14.570 --> 00:41:16.550
the assumption here is that the Democrats win
1643
00:41:16.850 --> 00:41:17.250
the House.
1644
00:41:17.330 --> 00:41:21.399
That one is about 85% chance on calcium poly market right now.
1645
00:41:21.770 --> 00:41:22.810
I don't know if there's much value there,
1646
00:41:22.889 --> 00:41:23.090
by the way,
1647
00:41:23.149 --> 00:41:24.239
if you're playing these prediction markets,
1648
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:25.090
85%.
1649
00:41:25.489 --> 00:41:26.330
It's probably,
1650
00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:26.659
uh,
1651
00:41:26.770 --> 00:41:27.830
it's priced pretty well,
1652
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:28.120
uh,
1653
00:41:28.169 --> 00:41:28.489
honestly.
1654
00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:29.570
They are definitely the favorites,
1655
00:41:29.610 --> 00:41:30.169
but if they win,
1656
00:41:30.330 --> 00:41:32.330
will Hakeem Jeffries be in leadership?
1657
00:41:32.689 --> 00:41:33.530
Questions about that.
1658
00:41:33.649 --> 00:41:34.889
He's really not an effective guy.
1659
00:41:34.969 --> 00:41:36.090
He's kind of a dolt,
1660
00:41:36.409 --> 00:41:37.010
kind of a zero,
1661
00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:37.719
a zilch,
1662
00:41:38.100 --> 00:41:38.189
uh,
1663
00:41:38.290 --> 00:41:39.270
so not really doing well.
1664
00:41:39.449 --> 00:41:42.439
Unlike this woman who's running for Senate in Minnesota,
1665
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.310
who was found guilty in a tarantula throwing incident.
1666
00:41:45.689 --> 00:41:46.149
Now one thing,
1667
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:46.250
uh,
1668
00:41:46.409 --> 00:41:50.139
not known much about my life is I took out a book from the library,
1669
00:41:50.409 --> 00:41:50.810
Old Sabre,
1670
00:41:50.889 --> 00:41:51.419
Connecticut,
1671
00:41:51.810 --> 00:41:51.820
uh,
1672
00:41:51.889 --> 00:41:53.070
titled Spiders.
1673
00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:54.969
And then forgot to return it.
1674
00:41:55.189 --> 00:41:56.780
It's the first crime I've ever committed,
1675
00:41:57.500 --> 00:41:58.800
among many in the future.
1676
00:41:59.370 --> 00:42:00.760
So I was kind of into the spider thing.
1677
00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:03.139
Tarantula is not really that deadly to humans though.
1678
00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:03.340
I mean,
1679
00:42:03.379 --> 00:42:05.929
it's the black widows you've got to be a little more terrified of.
1680
00:42:05.979 --> 00:42:06.580
I've seen one of those.
1681
00:42:06.659 --> 00:42:07.560
One was in my garage.
1682
00:42:08.149 --> 00:42:08.159
Well,
1683
00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:09.419
I found a black widow in my garage.
1684
00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:10.020
That was a real thing,
1685
00:42:10.120 --> 00:42:11.159
a real story of my life.
1686
00:42:11.459 --> 00:42:12.439
So criminal
1687
00:42:12.929 --> 00:42:13.679
from the library
1688
00:42:14.350 --> 00:42:15.520
and had a black widow spider.
1689
00:42:16.469 --> 00:42:17.540
In my garage,
1690
00:42:17.669 --> 00:42:19.330
the two main things that have occurred
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I mean,
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we've been doing this show for 60 years.
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I can't believe it.
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Buck Sexton finally gonna join us to talk about
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how to get the liberals out of our heads and out of our lives.
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We'll talk about that.
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Things are getting a bit ugly between Democrats in the Maine Senate primary.
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We'll talk about the details there.
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We're gonna start by doing Paul Ehrlich.
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Now you might say,
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who the heck is that?
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And I will say to you,
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this is a very fundamental part of this particular program.
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Paul Ehrlich,
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we've talked about him for years and years and years and years,
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going back to my old show.
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He's an environmentalist type,
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uh,
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scientist,
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warning you about how evil
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population is.
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And I will say,
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as a person who is a pro-life person,
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as a person who does not
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want us to depopulate the Earth,
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I.
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Feel bad when someone passes away,
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even at 93 years old,
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like Paul Ehrlich just did,
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and Paul Ehrlich,
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the,
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uh,
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who alarmed the world about the population bomb,
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died dead at 93.
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I guess in Paul Ehrlich's very strange world.
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He might look at this as a positive in some way,
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I do not.
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I,
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I,
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even though he has terrible ideas and influenced the world very negatively,
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I of course wish he was still around,
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uh,
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to give us even more material to talk about.
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His book though,
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did a lot of damage to the world and did a lot of damage to humanity in general,
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frankly,
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he was not a positive influence
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on the Earth,
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though he may have been a nice guy in private.
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I don't know,
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never.
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Hung out with a guy,
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the population bomb.
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While you are reading these words,
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5 people,
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mostly children,
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have died of starvation and 40 more babies
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have been born.
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That was a weird freaking subtitle,
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but he is the,
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he was,
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he was the guy who did all this.
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By the way,
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very highly recognized by the left,
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by the scientific community who always wants
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you to pay attention to scientific consensus.
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Look at all these awards.
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I mean,
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there's dozens of them here,
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uh,
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you know,
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going back,
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you go back all the way to,
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uh,
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you know,
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back in the 1970s he was winning awards,
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but all the way up until the 2010s,
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still winning awards about all of his achievements,
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even though he freaked out the world
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for absolutely no reason and was completely wrong
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over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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And was helping form policy
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for the United States for a very
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long time,
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really up until his death.
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But the truth is,
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he made a lot of predictions about what.
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Going to happen in the world,
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and he was wrong on almost every single one of them,
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sometimes so dramatically wrong,
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you'd think,
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how did this guy ever get a job?
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How did this guy ever get on television?
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He was wrong all
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the time.
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A lot of this is outlined in the National View piece by Noah Rothman.
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Disastrous legacy of Paul Ehrlich,
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central to Ehrlich's thesis in the population bomb was
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his contention that the Earth had a finite carrying capacity
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and its limits were already being tested
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by the mid-twentieth century.
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Humanity would soon have to ration its resources and consign those
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consign those for whom it could no longer care to triage.
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Ehrlich's modern Malthus
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Malthusianism,
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which is a word you will hear more times on this
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particular broadcast than you have in a very long time,
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fired the imaginations of the international environmental left,
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but he seemed compelled to forever up the ante on his dire predictions.
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He subsequently subsequently anticipated
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that in 1980.
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The average American lifespan would decline
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to just 42.
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Now I am older than 42,
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I somehow made it past that deadline.
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I was born in 1976 and I'm somehow
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still alive today.
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In fact,
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the,
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of course,
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age expectancy has increased,
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uh,
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considerably.
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Now it's been kind of not increasing at the rate lately that we've wanted.
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Part of that is COVID,
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part of that is overdoses.
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There's some reason.
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Behind that,
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but generally speaking,
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we've had some real success around the world in
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that particular arena since these predictions were made.
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By 1971,
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Paul Ehrlich was willing to take even money that England
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will not exist
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in the year 2000.
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I don't think that was a Brexit-related prediction.
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Uh,
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because,
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uh,
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you know,
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we're still,
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they're still kind of around.
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This was like,
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hey,
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they're going to flood,
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there's not going to be any people there,
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uh,
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it's going to be an environmental catastrophe.
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Roughly 100 to 200 million people,
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he assumed,
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would die of starvation between 1980 and 1989
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in what he deemed the great
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die-off.
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Catchy,
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and idiotic news media ran with all this stuff for
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years and years and years and years and years.
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Ehrlich never questioned his conclusions
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and refused to repent
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for the suffering
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they produced.
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And that is really the crux of the matter here.
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Look.
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This is a guy who based his entire life on trying to convince people
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that
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there shouldn't be as many people as there are.
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It was very,
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very damaging and very,
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very,
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it was one of those things kind of like the
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nuclear power scares that happened around the same period.
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Something gets into the pop culture mind.
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He's going on places like Johnny Carson,
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and people assume this stuff is real.
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There's not a lot to challenge it.
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There's no internet to kind of challenge these claims at the time.
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And it formed an entire generation or two
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of policy.
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The left has pursued this nonsense about the population bomb this entire time
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and the left has also opposed nuclear
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energy despite all their global warming fear mongering
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because it kind of got in their head in the 70s and kind of just stuck around.
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It's kind of bizarre
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and it really ushered in.
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An era,
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an era of despair,
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the sort of
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idea that everything was going to turn out terribly,
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that it was kind of like the initial black pilling of our nation
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where we believed if people existed,
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terrible things would happen.
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That's not how I see the world.
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Hopefully that's not how you do as well.
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Spectator has a piece,
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Paul Ehrlich's Bad Ideas Won't Go Away.
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The left's approval of Ehrlich exposes another inconsistency in its thinking.
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What Ehrlich and his think-alikes say on a global
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scale is not tolerated when others make a similar point
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on a national scale.
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This is an interesting point.
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Say the world is overcrowded and cannot possibly cope with many
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more people because they will all trample over its resources.
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are an enlightened thinker.
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Say the same about migration to Britain,
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on the other hand,
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and you are a fascist.
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Ehrlich may have died,
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but we will not,
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we have,
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we will not have seen the last of the Malthusian left.
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that humans are like rabbits on a foxless
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island doomed to breed to the point of self-destruction
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is bound
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to survive him.
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It's true,
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and it's sad.
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I will say,
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listening to him in retrospect,
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knowing now,
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of course,
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everything that he said was wrong,
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it's easy to kind of make fun of him
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and you know,
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throw
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his meaning in the universe out the window,
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right?
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Here's a guy who has said a lot of things,
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like kind of like the guy
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who remember who had
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what was it,
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the Heaven's Gate,
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right?
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Like we were going to have this particular time where we were all going to go
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up.
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We had to like kill ourselves or we,
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you know,
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because we were going to be taken by some deity and whatever that thing,
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wherever that cult was back in the day,
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the Jonestown people.
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you kind of get to that,
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you know,
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it's sad,
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sad story maybe,
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but you look back at it,
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kind of this quirky,
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almost kicker story feel,
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right?
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Can you believe this guy had all these wrong predictions?
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But he really did have an impact on our country.
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I want to take you through
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maybe one of the craziest roller coaster rides of 2 minutes you'll ever go on.
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This is a clip from him back in 1970.
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was on the media
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all the time,
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preaching this stuff as if it was true,
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as if it was accurate.
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And we're going to start our rollercoaster ride
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with the concept of I am against government interference in our lives.
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That's where we start.
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Against government interference.
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And where we wind up
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is the government will simply tell you how many children you can
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have and throw you in jail if you have too many.
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That's the rollercoaster ride you're about to go on.
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Welcome to the Ehrlich coaster.
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Now,
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given the population explosion,
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let alone in this country,
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what
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can the government,
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what ought the government to do about this?
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Well,
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what it ought to do is this.
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The first thing you want,
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you don't want to put,
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I,
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I'm against government interference in our lives.
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You want to minimize that.
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So the very first thing the government should do
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is try and take the pressure off to reproduce.
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There's a lot of pressure in our society now to reproduce if you're.
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Single,
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people try and push you into getting married,
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you know,
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uh,
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your,
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your wife,
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you have a,
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a,
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uh,
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a bachelor over and your wife says,
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Gee,
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shouldn't I have a nice girl over.
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The idea is,
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you know,
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nobody should escape,
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so there's pressure to get married.
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Young couples,
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if they don't have children,
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people say,
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Gee,
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they must be thorough.
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They never say,
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Gee,
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maybe they like,
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good wine and going to the theater and so on.
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They prefer that to scraping diapers.
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So there's pressure to have children.
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So the first thing that should happen is that the
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president ought to say from now here on out,
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no
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intelligent,
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patriotic American family,
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uh,
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ought to have more than 2 children,
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preferably 1,
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if you're starting a family now.
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Not,
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not any law,
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but just say this is what responsible people do.
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He ought to make the FCC see to it that large families
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are always treated in a negative light on television wherever they appear.
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There ought to be a tremendous amount
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of television time devoted to spot commercials,
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the sort we've had against smoking.
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Ah,
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but the ones in the middle,
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say in the middle of Beverly Hillbillies,
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you get a scene which shows Los Angeles in the smog,
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and it just says this city has a fatal disease.
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It's called overpopulation,
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and
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so long.
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now that sort of campaign,
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you could,
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you could have a census,
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a sample census which would see whether that was having a desired effect.
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If that didn't,
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you could move to giving women bonuses for not having babies.
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That almost certainly would do the job.
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If that didn't have the effect,
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then you could move to changing the tax structure,
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uh,
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so that people who had the money and had the children paid for the children.
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In other words,
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you would increase taxes on people with children rather than decrease.
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Since they,
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when they have their children,
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they require more services.
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If that doesn't work,
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then you'll have the government legislating the size of the family,
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and people say,
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Oh,
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that's impossible.
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Government can never intrude and tell you how many children to have.
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Well,
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I got news.
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You know,
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it intruded a long time ago and told you how many wives you can have,
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and there's not the slightest question that if we don't get the population
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under control with voluntary means that in the not too distant future,
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the government will simply tell you how many children you can
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have and throw you in jail if you have too many.
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Do you understand why this is an important segment?
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That is
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the entire left,
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everything we've struggled with over all of these years in one quote,
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and of course it's,
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you know,
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couched in the idea,
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I don't want a lot of government interference,
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that's not what I want.
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But then it's,
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well,
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we should be encouraging the government,
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should be encouraging people
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to not get married.
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I mean,
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do you remember what we heard with the Black Lives Matter situation?
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It was the fighting against the nuclear family.
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We fight against them
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not getting,
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we want them to not get married,
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right?
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So they,
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because,
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you know,
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some people can escape marriage.
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That's the way you put it.
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I can't believe anyone would want to escape that.
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Then it was,
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they shouldn't have children.
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You know,
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it can't be that they were,
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uh,
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you know,
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they just enjoyed good wine and didn't want to scrape diapers.
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That was the way he put it again.
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So against marriage,
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against family.
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Then you have the FCC
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should see to it again,
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the government getting involved.
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This guy doesn't want any government involvement.
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The government gets involved.
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Large families are always treated in a negative light on television.
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I mean,
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think of all the crappy,
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you know,
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entertainment we've talked about over the years,
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where they're
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framing everything on the left and you know it's trans,
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everything is positive and regular families are weird and
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terrible and dads are always dumb and idiotic.
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A lot of this stuff has come true.
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Then giving bonuses for not having babies
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is another one again against the nuclear family.
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Increased taxes on people rather than decreasing them.
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These are anti-family policies,
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not pro-family policies.
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Government legislating the size,
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the size of the family.
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And throwing you in jail if you have too many kids.
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Again,
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essentially what the two
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child policy in China eventually did implement.
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I mean it was based on a lot of the stuff he was talking about at that time.
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That's how influential this guy was,
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and he was influential not just in a policy standpoint
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or a global standpoint or a national policy standpoint.
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He was influential to regular people who had their
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entire lives ruined because of what this guy wrote.
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Let me give you,
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this is an actual excerpt from a letter to the
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editor back in 2023 in The Wall Street Journal.
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I was a college student when I read Mr.
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Ehrlich's The Population Bomb.
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I took it to heart
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and now have no grandchildren.
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But 50 years later,
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the population has increased to 8 billion without
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dire consequences.
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I was gullible
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and stupid.
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This guy from Minnesota named Kenneth.
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The
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guy basically ruined his life.
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That's just one person.
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And whatever else has been implemented,
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we're talking about,
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you know,
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major,
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you know,
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environmental cases all around the world where millions of people wound up dying,
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where they were targeted.
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Certainly the China situation might be the most brutal of those attempts
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over the years,
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but a lot of that based on his teachings,
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his leadership,
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and yet after all of that history,
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this man is generally speaking still treated
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as a saint.
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By the media.
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Let me give you some of this.
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Ehrlich may still own the record for failed predictions in human history.
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Tarot card readers or those who
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read the entrails of sacrificed animals have better records
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of predictions than he,
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yet the media still treats him
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as a prophet.
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To the extent
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that he dies in 2026 at 93 years old,
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at 90 years old,
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in 2023,
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00:14:08.289 --> 00:14:10.849
he's still being allowed on television.
513
00:14:11.140 --> 00:14:13.719
To preach this stuff and act like he's being true.
514
00:14:13.830 --> 00:14:14.530
Here he is
515
00:14:14.710 --> 00:14:16.250
with CBS News.
516
00:14:17.099 --> 00:14:18.210
Too many people,
517
00:14:18.630 --> 00:14:19.890
too much consumption.
518
00:14:20.210 --> 00:14:21.630
And growth mania.
519
00:14:21.890 --> 00:14:22.890
At the age of 90,
520
00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:26.770
biologist Paul Ehrlich may have lived long enough to
521
00:14:26.770 --> 00:14:29.609
see some of his dire prophecies come true.
522
00:14:29.770 --> 00:14:32.650
You seem to be saying that humanity is not sustainable.
523
00:14:32.890 --> 00:14:32.979
No,
524
00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:34.640
humanity is not sustainable.
525
00:14:34.690 --> 00:14:35.830
To maintain
526
00:14:36.780 --> 00:14:37.690
our lifestyle,
527
00:14:37.789 --> 00:14:38.609
yours and mine,
528
00:14:38.729 --> 00:14:40.409
basically for the entire planet,
529
00:14:40.489 --> 00:14:42.039
you'd need 5 more Earths.
530
00:14:42.169 --> 00:14:44.690
What are you not clear where they're going to come from in terms.
531
00:14:44.809 --> 00:14:46.609
The resources that would be required,
532
00:14:47.169 --> 00:14:48.969
resources that would be required,
533
00:14:49.650 --> 00:14:52.090
the systems that support our lives,
534
00:14:52.369 --> 00:14:54.909
which of course are the biodiversity
535
00:14:55.330 --> 00:14:56.450
that we're wiping out.
536
00:14:56.969 --> 00:14:58.150
Humanity is
537
00:14:58.450 --> 00:14:59.590
very busily
538
00:14:59.849 --> 00:15:01.809
sitting on a limb that we're sawing off.
539
00:15:01.890 --> 00:15:04.609
This is the same crap he was saying in 1970.
540
00:15:04.809 --> 00:15:05.869
None of it came true,
541
00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.270
and he comes on air 53 years later.
542
00:15:09.650 --> 00:15:11.090
And it's treated like that.
543
00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:11.469
Hey,
544
00:15:11.530 --> 00:15:13.190
his prophecies may have come true.
545
00:15:13.369 --> 00:15:13.690
When,
546
00:15:13.880 --> 00:15:14.210
where,
547
00:15:14.330 --> 00:15:14.690
how,
548
00:15:14.890 --> 00:15:15.549
why?
549
00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:18.390
Do you have any evidence of this?
550
00:15:18.690 --> 00:15:18.969
By the way,
551
00:15:19.010 --> 00:15:20.909
it wasn't just that he was warning people,
552
00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.669
policies were created around the world that wound up targeting
553
00:15:24.890 --> 00:15:26.650
all sorts of vulnerable people,
554
00:15:26.729 --> 00:15:29.270
the type of people the left says they care about.
555
00:15:30.250 --> 00:15:32.210
As even Ehrlich's supporters will admit,
556
00:15:32.539 --> 00:15:37.609
his theories lent support to racist attitudes to population control.
557
00:15:37.900 --> 00:15:40.969
Population bombers encouraged the promotion of abortion
558
00:15:41.140 --> 00:15:43.080
in places like sub-Saharan Africa
559
00:15:43.219 --> 00:15:44.739
and the Indian subcontinent.
560
00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:46.710
And this way that he is treated,
561
00:15:46.789 --> 00:15:48.609
even though all of that stuff is true,
562
00:15:49.030 --> 00:15:50.080
he's still treated in the media.
563
00:15:50.150 --> 00:15:51.489
Remember we started this with
564
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the
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the
566
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you know,
567
00:15:54.869 --> 00:15:56.169
announcement of his death
568
00:15:56.390 --> 00:15:57.270
in the obituary,
569
00:15:57.309 --> 00:15:58.049
I guess,
570
00:15:58.190 --> 00:15:59.409
of him in the New York
571
00:15:59.750 --> 00:16:00.270
Times.
572
00:16:00.710 --> 00:16:03.030
Look at the wording they used in the subtitle here.
573
00:16:03.109 --> 00:16:04.869
It's key to the way they treated it.
574
00:16:04.994 --> 00:16:06.375
It's not that he was wrong.
575
00:16:06.755 --> 00:16:09.434
It's that he's just going to be right again in the future at some point.
576
00:16:09.474 --> 00:16:10.594
We just don't recognize it yet.
577
00:16:10.955 --> 00:16:11.515
Paul Ehrlich,
578
00:16:11.594 --> 00:16:13.114
who alarmed the world with a population bomb,
579
00:16:13.234 --> 00:16:14.034
dies at 93.
580
00:16:14.275 --> 00:16:15.945
His bestselling 1968 book,
581
00:16:16.155 --> 00:16:17.515
which forecasts global famines,
582
00:16:17.635 --> 00:16:19.315
made him a leader in the environmental movement,
583
00:16:19.515 --> 00:16:24.794
but he faced criticisms when his predictions proved premature.
584
00:16:25.969 --> 00:16:27.229
It's not that they were wrong.
585
00:16:28.270 --> 00:16:29.780
Is that they were premature.
586
00:16:30.229 --> 00:16:35.020
Now that might be true if he predicted it happening in 2000 and it happened in 2010.
587
00:16:35.309 --> 00:16:36.780
That's a premature prediction,
588
00:16:36.830 --> 00:16:36.909
right?
589
00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:37.729
You're a little early.
590
00:16:38.469 --> 00:16:38.669
Well,
591
00:16:38.909 --> 00:16:40.429
none of the stuff he said has happened.
592
00:16:41.239 --> 00:16:44.369
We're still at an area where things are flourishing for people.
593
00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.309
I'm about to show you the details on that.
594
00:16:46.359 --> 00:16:47.239
You might not know them.
595
00:16:47.349 --> 00:16:48.340
Most people don't.
596
00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:50.059
Most people don't.
597
00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.679
Nate Silver points out the idiocy of this treatment,
598
00:16:52.760 --> 00:16:53.309
by the way,
599
00:16:53.619 --> 00:16:58.200
predicting that civilization would end by 1985 counts as a pretty basic error,
600
00:16:58.440 --> 00:16:59.080
I'd think.
601
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To the extent he's received scientific accolades,
602
00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:03.859
it shows how unseriously
603
00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.180
the scientific community
604
00:17:05.598 --> 00:17:06.060
takes
605
00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:07.040
prediction.
606
00:17:07.358 --> 00:17:07.790
It's very,
607
00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:08.699
very true.
608
00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:09.280
I,
609
00:17:09.358 --> 00:17:09.839
for one,
610
00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:10.469
want,
611
00:17:10.719 --> 00:17:10.839
I mean,
612
00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.150
as a person who's about to start a
613
00:17:12.150 --> 00:17:14.400
prediction market show called Predictable with Stu,
614
00:17:14.790 --> 00:17:14.920
uh,
615
00:17:14.959 --> 00:17:15.439
which by the way,
616
00:17:15.469 --> 00:17:17.339
is going to be coming in mid-April,
617
00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:17.930
uh,
618
00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:21.239
it is a situation where I want more Paul Ehrlichs to say
619
00:17:21.239 --> 00:17:23.560
this crap so that I can bet against them and win.
620
00:17:23.900 --> 00:17:24.260
By the way,
621
00:17:24.339 --> 00:17:27.160
one of the most famous stories about Paul Ehrlich's life was a story where
622
00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:28.098
Julian Simon,
623
00:17:29.770 --> 00:17:31.380
another one of his contemporaries at the time,
624
00:17:31.660 --> 00:17:31.739
said,
625
00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:32.099
by the way,
626
00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.530
I don't think you're right about all this scarcity.
627
00:17:34.739 --> 00:17:36.449
I think we're going to actually have
628
00:17:37.020 --> 00:17:38.819
so much abundance that price.
629
00:17:38.900 --> 00:17:39.719
are going to go down.
630
00:17:40.459 --> 00:17:41.540
They bet on this,
631
00:17:41.609 --> 00:17:45.599
and Paul Ehrlich was unfortunately for him
632
00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:47.180
forced to write a check for,
633
00:17:47.189 --> 00:17:49.239
I think $576
634
00:17:50.250 --> 00:17:52.119
and admit a complete
635
00:17:52.380 --> 00:17:53.959
disastrous failure
636
00:17:55.260 --> 00:17:57.060
and admit that he was wrong.
637
00:17:57.180 --> 00:18:00.010
There was a bet on whether the scarcity of metal
638
00:18:00.010 --> 00:18:01.459
metals would go in a certain direction or not.
639
00:18:01.739 --> 00:18:03.939
The prices went down as Simon predicted.
640
00:18:04.050 --> 00:18:04.939
It's a very famous story,
641
00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:05.459
by the way,
642
00:18:05.699 --> 00:18:06.920
not necessarily known all that much.
643
00:18:07.060 --> 00:18:08.699
He made his wife write the check.
644
00:18:09.699 --> 00:18:10.160
Anne
645
00:18:10.459 --> 00:18:10.979
signed the check,
646
00:18:11.099 --> 00:18:12.319
not Paul Ehrlich.
647
00:18:13.300 --> 00:18:15.959
Because he was a coward as well as being completely wrong.
648
00:18:16.650 --> 00:18:16.890
Again,
649
00:18:16.930 --> 00:18:18.709
I'm sure a wonderful gentleman at home.
650
00:18:18.930 --> 00:18:19.209
By the way,
651
00:18:19.329 --> 00:18:22.310
should we point out how wrong he was one last time before I let you go?
652
00:18:22.689 --> 00:18:24.319
He wrote this in 1970.
653
00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.329
Food optimism is nonsense.
654
00:18:26.439 --> 00:18:28.609
The idea that we'd have more food in the future,
655
00:18:28.849 --> 00:18:30.810
be able to feed people is nonsense.
656
00:18:31.209 --> 00:18:33.030
Let's go over parts of that claim,
657
00:18:33.170 --> 00:18:33.729
shall we?
658
00:18:34.489 --> 00:18:35.530
In the 1960s,
659
00:18:35.609 --> 00:18:36.589
India was producing
660
00:18:36.910 --> 00:18:39.640
10 million tons of wheat per year.
661
00:18:40.130 --> 00:18:41.089
1960,
662
00:18:41.209 --> 00:18:42.310
10 million tons.
663
00:18:42.910 --> 00:18:43.709
In 2023,
664
00:18:43.790 --> 00:18:46.329
it produced 112
665
00:18:46.469 --> 00:18:46.890
million
666
00:18:47.219 --> 00:18:47.699
tons.
667
00:18:48.060 --> 00:18:50.550
Every 1% increase in population corresponded with
668
00:18:50.550 --> 00:18:53.619
a 5.66% increase in wheat production,
669
00:18:53.869 --> 00:18:54.609
the opposite
670
00:18:54.949 --> 00:18:56.130
of what Paul Ehrlich
671
00:18:56.349 --> 00:18:56.910
predicted.
672
00:18:57.310 --> 00:18:58.030
Dominic Pinot,
673
00:18:58.150 --> 00:18:58.699
a friend of ours,
674
00:18:58.790 --> 00:18:59.550
been on the program before,
675
00:18:59.670 --> 00:19:01.540
Paul Ehrlich wrote that hundreds of millions of people
676
00:19:01.540 --> 00:19:03.150
are going to starve to death in the 1970s.
677
00:19:03.219 --> 00:19:04.069
We mentioned that claim earlier.
678
00:19:04.150 --> 00:19:05.140
What happened with that?
679
00:19:05.469 --> 00:19:06.369
The actual
680
00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:08.680
amount of people who died in famines in that decade,
681
00:19:08.869 --> 00:19:09.510
4 million,
682
00:19:09.589 --> 00:19:10.550
not hundreds of millions,
683
00:19:10.630 --> 00:19:11.869
but 4 million.
684
00:19:12.069 --> 00:19:14.560
It went down to 2 million in the 1980s
685
00:19:14.709 --> 00:19:17.109
and 1 million in the 2000s.
686
00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:19.890
The average person today has more food
687
00:19:20.849 --> 00:19:21.670
than ever before.
688
00:19:22.469 --> 00:19:23.910
Here's the graph that proves it.
689
00:19:24.469 --> 00:19:25.910
This is from our World in Data,
690
00:19:26.109 --> 00:19:27.069
great organization.
691
00:19:27.349 --> 00:19:28.410
Since the publication
692
00:19:28.589 --> 00:19:29.670
of The Population Bomb,
693
00:19:29.709 --> 00:19:32.589
the world's food supply has steadily increased,
694
00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:34.329
increased
695
00:19:34.790 --> 00:19:36.770
by 25% over that period.
696
00:19:37.329 --> 00:19:38.839
One of my favorite authors,
697
00:19:38.849 --> 00:19:39.000
uh,
698
00:19:39.010 --> 00:19:40.089
also chimed in on this.
699
00:19:40.290 --> 00:19:41.290
He's been on the program as well.
700
00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:44.479
It's kind of like a reunion of all of our favorite guests in this particular segment.
701
00:19:44.729 --> 00:19:45.530
Matt Ridley,
702
00:19:45.729 --> 00:19:46.310
who I love.
703
00:19:46.369 --> 00:19:46.609
He says,
704
00:19:46.729 --> 00:19:49.910
where on this chart is the evidence that Ehrlich's predictions of inevitable,
705
00:19:50.209 --> 00:19:50.849
imminent,
706
00:19:51.290 --> 00:19:55.010
worsening global famines that started in the 1960s were premature.
707
00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:55.770
Rather than wrong,
708
00:19:55.890 --> 00:19:58.849
referring to that New York Times handling of his death.
709
00:19:59.130 --> 00:20:00.790
Here's the chart he's referring to.
710
00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:01.829
As you see,
711
00:20:02.530 --> 00:20:03.750
death rates from famine
712
00:20:03.930 --> 00:20:04.689
were up at,
713
00:20:04.819 --> 00:20:05.050
you know,
714
00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:07.170
for every 100,000 people,
715
00:20:07.410 --> 00:20:10.390
at 1200 back in the 1870s for every 100,000.
716
00:20:10.569 --> 00:20:12.810
Even in 1940 it was over 1000.
717
00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:13.630
Right now
718
00:20:13.969 --> 00:20:15.609
you can't even see it on the chart.
719
00:20:15.810 --> 00:20:17.229
There's almost none.
720
00:20:17.530 --> 00:20:19.229
Almost no one
721
00:20:19.729 --> 00:20:20.449
dies
722
00:20:20.609 --> 00:20:21.170
of famine.
723
00:20:21.250 --> 00:20:23.329
When you talk about a rate per 100,000,
724
00:20:23.410 --> 00:20:24.430
it is almost.
725
00:20:24.979 --> 00:20:26.359
Impossible to see
726
00:20:27.369 --> 00:20:29.469
These are incredible achievements
727
00:20:29.770 --> 00:20:30.449
of humanity.
728
00:20:30.530 --> 00:20:31.349
I believe,
729
00:20:31.530 --> 00:20:34.880
directly blessed from God to be able to do the things that we do.
730
00:20:35.369 --> 00:20:35.709
People
731
00:20:35.969 --> 00:20:39.770
who have struggled for all time to be able to feed themselves are
732
00:20:39.770 --> 00:20:42.569
now being able to do that at rates never before seen before.
733
00:20:42.810 --> 00:20:46.199
This is the greatest achievement of humanity since you've been born,
734
00:20:46.369 --> 00:20:47.250
that I can promise you.
735
00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:48.520
Since you've been born,
736
00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:50.790
nobody's achieved something greater
737
00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:53.020
than what has been achieved when it comes
738
00:20:53.020 --> 00:20:55.670
to just feeding people and keeping them alive
739
00:20:55.930 --> 00:20:56.250
and.
740
00:20:56.859 --> 00:20:58.390
All of this lines up.
741
00:20:58.619 --> 00:21:00.640
It's the greatest human achievement that you've
742
00:21:00.959 --> 00:21:02.400
experienced in your entire life
743
00:21:02.660 --> 00:21:02.819
is,
744
00:21:02.979 --> 00:21:04.400
is to refute
745
00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:06.770
everything that Paul Ehrlich stood for.
746
00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:07.880
This man
747
00:21:08.660 --> 00:21:10.760
told us over and over and over again
748
00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:13.329
that death and despair were around the corner,
749
00:21:13.380 --> 00:21:15.260
to the fact that it's affecting people's lives,
750
00:21:15.300 --> 00:21:16.140
it affected policy,
751
00:21:16.219 --> 00:21:18.130
it affected millions and millions of people,
752
00:21:18.310 --> 00:21:19.459
whether they're alive or dead.
753
00:21:20.020 --> 00:21:22.849
And yet he's still supported and praised by the media.
754
00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.560
I don't cheer on anyone going away.
755
00:21:25.829 --> 00:21:26.790
That's not the way I am.
756
00:21:26.869 --> 00:21:28.969
It's the way that Paul Ehrlich kind of was.
757
00:21:29.849 --> 00:21:30.760
Not the way that I am,
758
00:21:30.859 --> 00:21:32.079
I don't cheer him going away,
759
00:21:32.180 --> 00:21:33.000
but I do
760
00:21:33.699 --> 00:21:35.160
hope and pray we live
761
00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:38.439
to see a day where these ideas die,
762
00:21:38.579 --> 00:21:39.650
the painful,
763
00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:41.040
awful death
764
00:21:41.219 --> 00:21:41.959
they deserve.
765
00:21:54.510 --> 00:21:56.910
I'm excited to welcome Buck Sexton to the program.
766
00:21:57.030 --> 00:21:57.290
He is,
767
00:21:57.300 --> 00:21:57.630
of course,
768
00:21:57.650 --> 00:22:01.069
the co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Buck Sexton Show
769
00:22:01.270 --> 00:22:04.030
and author of the new book Manufacturing Delusion,
770
00:22:04.310 --> 00:22:05.709
How the Left Uses Brainwashing,
771
00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:06.449
Indoctrination,
772
00:22:06.630 --> 00:22:09.020
and propaganda Against you.
773
00:22:09.219 --> 00:22:11.030
It's available wherever you get your books,
774
00:22:11.109 --> 00:22:12.609
so be sure to grab a copy today.
775
00:22:13.229 --> 00:22:13.430
Buck,
776
00:22:13.550 --> 00:22:14.609
thanks so much for coming on the program.
777
00:22:16.040 --> 00:22:16.719
Great to see you,
778
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:17.079
sir.
779
00:22:17.199 --> 00:22:17.989
Thank you and the,
780
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.770
uh I appreciate the plug for the book,
781
00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:20.380
which,
782
00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:21.030
uh,
783
00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:25.229
the number one thing that I hear about it is people get it and then they go,
784
00:22:25.449 --> 00:22:26.939
it's actually good,
785
00:22:27.520 --> 00:22:28.939
which is so nice
786
00:22:29.239 --> 00:22:31.280
and like a little backhanded at the same time.
787
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.619
It's like a real book with research and you learn stuff,
788
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.739
and it took me 18 months to write.
789
00:22:36.760 --> 00:22:37.420
And so,
790
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:38.510
it's not like,
791
00:22:38.520 --> 00:22:39.060
uh,
792
00:22:39.469 --> 00:22:40.030
You know,
793
00:22:40.390 --> 00:22:42.550
some AI slop that somebody threw together.
794
00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:45.050
So I'm happy that people are surprised at how good it is.
795
00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:45.770
I'll take it.
796
00:22:46.569 --> 00:22:46.770
I mean,
797
00:22:46.849 --> 00:22:46.930
yeah,
798
00:22:46.969 --> 00:22:47.339
it's a little bit,
799
00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:48.439
it's like when some like,
800
00:22:48.449 --> 00:22:48.839
uh,
801
00:22:48.849 --> 00:22:50.520
someone makes dinner for you and you're like,
802
00:22:50.530 --> 00:22:50.810
wow,
803
00:22:50.849 --> 00:22:51.310
this is,
804
00:22:51.650 --> 00:22:52.609
this is actually good,
805
00:22:52.719 --> 00:22:53.050
you know,
806
00:22:53.130 --> 00:22:53.530
I mean,
807
00:22:53.650 --> 00:22:53.780
uh,
808
00:22:53.890 --> 00:22:54.550
thanks a lot.
809
00:22:54.770 --> 00:22:54.959
Um,
810
00:22:55.050 --> 00:22:55.130
yeah,
811
00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:56.199
it's a great book actually,
812
00:22:56.209 --> 00:22:58.589
and you hit on a lot of different uh points
813
00:22:59.010 --> 00:22:59.880
that I don't think,
814
00:22:59.890 --> 00:23:00.430
uh,
815
00:23:00.890 --> 00:23:04.410
I think that cut to the core of everything that we're dealing with right now,
816
00:23:04.689 --> 00:23:05.109
um,
817
00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:05.250
in,
818
00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:06.089
in a way that I don't,
819
00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:07.770
I don't know that I've read in another book.
820
00:23:07.829 --> 00:23:08.229
Um,
821
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:09.449
let's start at the beginning though,
822
00:23:09.770 --> 00:23:09.890
you know,
823
00:23:09.969 --> 00:23:10.729
why did you write it?
824
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:12.010
Well,
825
00:23:12.050 --> 00:23:13.329
I wanted to answer a question,
826
00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:16.089
and this applies to so much of what's going on right now,
827
00:23:16.209 --> 00:23:16.770
which is,
828
00:23:16.859 --> 00:23:17.160
uh,
829
00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:17.849
I think very,
830
00:23:17.969 --> 00:23:18.810
very useful for,
831
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.890
for anybody who will pick up a copy of Manufacturing Delusion.
832
00:23:22.250 --> 00:23:22.810
And the question is,
833
00:23:22.969 --> 00:23:23.810
what's happening to people?
834
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:25.589
Why are so many people so nuts?
835
00:23:25.969 --> 00:23:27.359
Like really crazy,
836
00:23:27.449 --> 00:23:27.750
you know,
837
00:23:27.969 --> 00:23:28.030
how,
838
00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:29.550
how is it that we have
839
00:23:30.010 --> 00:23:30.290
If,
840
00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:33.069
if you were to go on X or Twitter right now,
841
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:33.930
and you would say,
842
00:23:34.209 --> 00:23:34.489
I,
843
00:23:34.569 --> 00:23:35.300
I
844
00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:37.930
dare a scientist to come forward,
845
00:23:38.250 --> 00:23:38.489
you know,
846
00:23:38.569 --> 00:23:38.729
and,
847
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:40.430
and tell me that men
848
00:23:40.810 --> 00:23:43.800
can have vaginas and women can have penises,
849
00:23:44.250 --> 00:23:45.969
you'd have a whole bunch of blue check,
850
00:23:46.060 --> 00:23:46.560
uh,
851
00:23:46.770 --> 00:23:46.930
you know,
852
00:23:47.040 --> 00:23:48.689
MDs and PhDs and stuff.
853
00:23:48.729 --> 00:23:49.040
They'd be like,
854
00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:49.239
well,
855
00:23:49.369 --> 00:23:49.949
let me tell you,
856
00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:50.250
I.
857
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:51.880
Something's wrong here,
858
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:52.439
folks,
859
00:23:52.550 --> 00:23:52.880
OK?
860
00:23:52.959 --> 00:23:53.239
There's a,
861
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:54.040
there's a problem.
862
00:23:54.280 --> 00:23:55.280
Just like if you were to say,
863
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:55.479
I,
864
00:23:55.560 --> 00:23:55.900
I,
865
00:23:56.040 --> 00:23:57.819
I wonder if we could find anybody who
866
00:23:58.280 --> 00:23:59.479
is a scientist who would make,
867
00:23:59.560 --> 00:23:59.800
I'm,
868
00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:00.800
now I'm picking on scientists,
869
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:02.550
but there's a lot of different people you could throw in here.
870
00:24:02.829 --> 00:24:05.239
Make the case that climate change is an existential threat.
871
00:24:05.479 --> 00:24:07.300
Maybe you shouldn't even have kids because of the.
872
00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:08.810
CO2 footprint of this.
873
00:24:09.239 --> 00:24:10.640
People would come forward.
874
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.040
They will make this argument.
875
00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:12.439
In fact,
876
00:24:12.550 --> 00:24:13.699
they will make it
877
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.420
with all of the fervor of a religious belief
878
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.959
of a person who is a fundamentalist,
879
00:24:20.020 --> 00:24:23.959
a person who thinks that all of the answers are contained in their left-wing canon.
880
00:24:24.209 --> 00:24:25.369
And so that then brought me to,
881
00:24:25.449 --> 00:24:26.800
how do we get to
882
00:24:27.209 --> 00:24:29.150
this in a free society?
883
00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:29.489
Well,
884
00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:33.089
we know that they do this in totalitarian societies.
885
00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:34.530
We know that if you,
886
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:34.770
you know,
887
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.369
if you live in North Korea or if you were in Stalinist Russia,
888
00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:41.250
there would be iconography of the Dear Leader everywhere.
889
00:24:41.339 --> 00:24:44.390
There would be posters demanding you say and believe certain things.
890
00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:46.209
And so I looked at this and I said,
891
00:24:46.290 --> 00:24:47.213
what are tactics,
892
00:24:47.292 --> 00:24:52.353
what are the things that are done in those places that we see replicated in our own?
893
00:24:52.402 --> 00:24:54.113
And that's where I get into things like
894
00:24:54.333 --> 00:24:58.123
isolation and forced confession and identity construction,
895
00:24:58.133 --> 00:24:59.473
and all of these,
896
00:24:59.652 --> 00:25:01.473
the chapters essentially line up
897
00:25:01.692 --> 00:25:02.753
with the different
898
00:25:02.932 --> 00:25:03.652
modalities,
899
00:25:03.723 --> 00:25:04.213
tactics,
900
00:25:04.493 --> 00:25:05.312
approaches
901
00:25:05.532 --> 00:25:08.633
to making people believe crazy stuff
902
00:25:08.812 --> 00:25:10.046
and And this is actually quite,
903
00:25:10.095 --> 00:25:11.135
it starts with Pavlov,
904
00:25:11.176 --> 00:25:11.456
by the way,
905
00:25:11.536 --> 00:25:12.566
and Pavlov's dogs,
906
00:25:12.776 --> 00:25:14.676
but this is actually quite possible to do
907
00:25:15.176 --> 00:25:15.895
to human beings.
908
00:25:15.975 --> 00:25:16.375
In fact,
909
00:25:16.456 --> 00:25:17.406
that last 100 years,
910
00:25:17.416 --> 00:25:19.776
we've seen the biggest mind control experiments
911
00:25:19.926 --> 00:25:21.196
in human history
912
00:25:21.375 --> 00:25:22.526
by totalitarian regimes,
913
00:25:22.536 --> 00:25:23.036
and now
914
00:25:23.375 --> 00:25:24.095
in our own country,
915
00:25:24.176 --> 00:25:27.056
whether it's BLM or climate change or trans stuff,
916
00:25:27.066 --> 00:25:27.446
or,
917
00:25:27.696 --> 00:25:28.005
you know,
918
00:25:28.446 --> 00:25:30.336
Trump hacked the election with Russian help,
919
00:25:30.416 --> 00:25:31.316
all these different.
920
00:25:31.800 --> 00:25:33.949
Beliefs that are verifiably false,
921
00:25:34.280 --> 00:25:35.229
there are pathways,
922
00:25:35.310 --> 00:25:37.619
there are things that are done to people
923
00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:39.650
that bring them to believe them,
924
00:25:39.719 --> 00:25:41.719
that manufacture these delusions,
925
00:25:41.800 --> 00:25:42.829
hence the book title.
926
00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:43.160
Yeah,
927
00:25:43.280 --> 00:25:43.400
yeah,
928
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.300
take us through some of this because I think like,
929
00:25:45.699 --> 00:25:48.829
You hit on the fact that we're a free society and
930
00:25:49.550 --> 00:25:51.300
that should be a defense against this.
931
00:25:51.670 --> 00:25:52.579
You go through many ways,
932
00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:55.369
and I want to get into these of how
933
00:25:55.550 --> 00:25:58.290
a society does this in a free sort of
934
00:25:58.589 --> 00:25:59.219
context,
935
00:25:59.430 --> 00:26:02.930
but you talk about your early experiences in Nigeria
936
00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:05.900
and in the Middle East seeing extremism develop there,
937
00:26:06.189 --> 00:26:06.890
and you can kind of
938
00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:08.760
draw a direct line to,
939
00:26:08.780 --> 00:26:09.750
let's say COVID,
940
00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:10.079
right?
941
00:26:10.270 --> 00:26:10.750
Like
942
00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:11.989
how does that work?
943
00:26:12.689 --> 00:26:12.849
Oh,
944
00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:13.209
sure.
945
00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:13.609
Well,
946
00:26:13.910 --> 00:26:14.869
for one thing,
947
00:26:15.290 --> 00:26:15.589
uh,
948
00:26:15.910 --> 00:26:19.189
no matter what country you're talking about or what society,
949
00:26:19.410 --> 00:26:19.689
uh,
950
00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.469
extremist belief.
951
00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:22.390
Can
952
00:26:22.849 --> 00:26:25.890
be the mandated belief system of the state,
953
00:26:26.209 --> 00:26:28.130
or it can just be pockets of it within,
954
00:26:28.209 --> 00:26:29.069
but can still exist,
955
00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:29.410
right?
956
00:26:29.489 --> 00:26:29.949
This is,
957
00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:30.319
uh,
958
00:26:30.469 --> 00:26:30.479
and,
959
00:26:30.510 --> 00:26:30.520
and,
960
00:26:30.569 --> 00:26:31.349
and in fact,
961
00:26:31.410 --> 00:26:32.910
if you look at the history
962
00:26:33.410 --> 00:26:33.719
of,
963
00:26:33.810 --> 00:26:34.530
of the Soviet,
964
00:26:34.579 --> 00:26:34.890
uh,
965
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:35.969
the Soviet Revolution,
966
00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:36.199
uh,
967
00:26:36.209 --> 00:26:36.469
the,
968
00:26:36.569 --> 00:26:36.849
the,
969
00:26:36.930 --> 00:26:38.770
the rise of the Soviet Union,
970
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:39.089
you know,
971
00:26:39.130 --> 00:26:40.369
the Bolsheviks were never popular,
972
00:26:40.449 --> 00:26:42.930
they're always a faction among many factions,
973
00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:45.270
and they just managed to seize
974
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.949
power with this hardline,
975
00:26:48.020 --> 00:26:48.319
uh,
976
00:26:48.489 --> 00:26:48.969
belief in,
977
00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:50.489
in communism and Marxism.
978
00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:52.619
And you have this in other places as well.
979
00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:54.339
So when I was in Nigeria,
980
00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:54.650
yeah,
981
00:26:54.699 --> 00:26:57.849
the whole country wasn't in the grip of Islamic fundamentalism,
982
00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:00.119
but I saw what it looks like
983
00:27:00.260 --> 00:27:05.680
to be in a place where the beginnings of fundamentalist
984
00:27:05.900 --> 00:27:08.680
infrastructure that are churning out
985
00:27:08.979 --> 00:27:09.939
hardline believers,
986
00:27:09.979 --> 00:27:10.140
you know,
987
00:27:10.219 --> 00:27:11.010
what does that look like?
988
00:27:11.060 --> 00:27:12.540
And then of course in Iraq and Afghanistan,
989
00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:13.300
I was in places.
990
00:27:13.362 --> 00:27:13.901
Where they had
991
00:27:14.082 --> 00:27:15.791
much further down the line,
992
00:27:16.121 --> 00:27:18.322
people who had been through a radicalization process,
993
00:27:18.442 --> 00:27:18.562
you know,
994
00:27:18.602 --> 00:27:20.082
suicide bombers blowing themselves up.
995
00:27:20.322 --> 00:27:20.712
Keep in mind,
996
00:27:20.761 --> 00:27:21.641
when I was in Nigeria,
997
00:27:21.682 --> 00:27:23.302
it was before the rise of Boko Haram.
998
00:27:23.362 --> 00:27:23.881
It was essential,
999
00:27:23.962 --> 00:27:25.281
and I write about this in the book,
1000
00:27:25.401 --> 00:27:26.281
Manufacturing Delusion,
1001
00:27:26.322 --> 00:27:27.482
which your audience should go get
1002
00:27:27.682 --> 00:27:28.322
because it actually has some,
1003
00:27:28.462 --> 00:27:29.871
the CIA had to clear the book,
1004
00:27:30.072 --> 00:27:30.991
which took about 6 months,
1005
00:27:31.082 --> 00:27:31.661
by the way.
1006
00:27:31.881 --> 00:27:32.082
Uh,
1007
00:27:32.202 --> 00:27:33.102
so that was fun.
1008
00:27:33.641 --> 00:27:34.031
Um,
1009
00:27:34.202 --> 00:27:34.411
but,
1010
00:27:34.521 --> 00:27:34.641
you know,
1011
00:27:34.722 --> 00:27:35.112
I have to,
1012
00:27:35.161 --> 00:27:35.842
it's my obligation.
1013
00:27:35.943 --> 00:27:36.264
So I did.
1014
00:27:36.343 --> 00:27:38.663
I cleared it with the CIA and they had no problem with,
1015
00:27:38.734 --> 00:27:38.973
uh,
1016
00:27:39.063 --> 00:27:40.293
with really anything actually,
1017
00:27:40.303 --> 00:27:41.303
cause I was pretty careful.
1018
00:27:41.744 --> 00:27:42.183
But
1019
00:27:42.543 --> 00:27:42.973
the,
1020
00:27:43.063 --> 00:27:43.303
uh,
1021
00:27:43.343 --> 00:27:47.524
the story of Nigeria was I'm here and I'm seeing the very kind of beginning,
1022
00:27:48.144 --> 00:27:48.423
like the,
1023
00:27:48.463 --> 00:27:48.784
like the,
1024
00:27:48.864 --> 00:27:51.083
the first elements of,
1025
00:27:51.583 --> 00:27:53.683
of a radicalized society,
1026
00:27:53.864 --> 00:27:54.624
but in places,
1027
00:27:54.744 --> 00:27:55.323
not everywhere.
1028
00:27:55.384 --> 00:27:56.093
It's half Christian,
1029
00:27:56.134 --> 00:27:56.864
half Nigerian,
1030
00:27:56.904 --> 00:27:57.063
I mean,
1031
00:27:57.144 --> 00:27:57.293
uh,
1032
00:27:57.303 --> 00:27:57.463
half,
1033
00:27:57.543 --> 00:27:57.734
uh,
1034
00:27:57.744 --> 00:27:58.063
Muslim,
1035
00:27:58.124 --> 00:27:58.384
for example.
1036
00:27:59.036 --> 00:27:59.706
in that country.
1037
00:28:00.046 --> 00:28:00.586
So it's half
1038
00:28:00.725 --> 00:28:01.235
half Christian,
1039
00:28:01.276 --> 00:28:01.926
half Muslim,
1040
00:28:02.125 --> 00:28:04.166
you're already dealing with a society that is fractured.
1041
00:28:04.245 --> 00:28:05.206
You're not gonna have everybody.
1042
00:28:05.485 --> 00:28:06.005
And so then I say,
1043
00:28:06.086 --> 00:28:06.206
OK,
1044
00:28:06.296 --> 00:28:06.326
well,
1045
00:28:06.406 --> 00:28:08.235
what are the things that you do when you look at things like,
1046
00:28:08.426 --> 00:28:09.806
this is where you get into the tactical,
1047
00:28:10.125 --> 00:28:10.546
the,
1048
00:28:10.566 --> 00:28:10.995
um,
1049
00:28:11.206 --> 00:28:12.086
isolation,
1050
00:28:12.245 --> 00:28:12.965
confession,
1051
00:28:13.086 --> 00:28:14.326
identity construction.
1052
00:28:14.556 --> 00:28:16.865
These are all different tools to make people
1053
00:28:17.166 --> 00:28:19.225
break from what they had previously known.
1054
00:28:19.485 --> 00:28:19.725
Uh,
1055
00:28:19.796 --> 00:28:20.086
I mean,
1056
00:28:20.206 --> 00:28:21.066
there's different,
1057
00:28:21.725 --> 00:28:22.306
there's different,
1058
00:28:22.446 --> 00:28:22.676
uh,
1059
00:28:22.686 --> 00:28:24.086
experts that I draw upon for this.
1060
00:28:24.206 --> 00:28:24.586
For example,
1061
00:28:24.806 --> 00:28:25.586
Yost Mirle,
1062
00:28:25.725 --> 00:28:26.215
who was
1063
00:28:26.530 --> 00:28:27.510
A Dutchman
1064
00:28:28.050 --> 00:28:32.550
who fled the Nazis in the Netherlands under Nazi occupation in World War II,
1065
00:28:32.849 --> 00:28:34.510
was actually in prison for a short while,
1066
00:28:34.569 --> 00:28:36.530
and then became part of the Dutch army in exile.
1067
00:28:36.609 --> 00:28:37.719
He's a psychiatrist.
1068
00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:39.310
And so he was involved in
1069
00:28:40.209 --> 00:28:41.280
information operations,
1070
00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:44.089
essentially counterpropaganda and propaganda operations in the
1071
00:28:44.089 --> 00:28:45.530
Second World War against the Nazis,
1072
00:28:45.729 --> 00:28:49.969
but he also debriefed a bunch of members of the SS and so he took this approach of,
1073
00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:50.939
OK,
1074
00:28:51.219 --> 00:28:54.459
how did you guys get people to be this crazy,
1075
00:28:54.540 --> 00:28:54.699
right?
1076
00:28:54.750 --> 00:28:56.479
Like what did you do to people?
1077
00:28:56.890 --> 00:28:57.329
And,
1078
00:28:57.339 --> 00:28:57.530
uh,
1079
00:28:57.540 --> 00:28:59.000
the two pillars,
1080
00:28:59.329 --> 00:28:59.810
um,
1081
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:00.650
of his,
1082
00:29:00.699 --> 00:29:01.859
what he calls mentaide,
1083
00:29:02.020 --> 00:29:02.369
which,
1084
00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:04.520
it's essentially a form of brainwashing,
1085
00:29:04.969 --> 00:29:05.510
are,
1086
00:29:05.589 --> 00:29:06.119
uh,
1087
00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:07.680
confusion and degradation.
1088
00:29:08.180 --> 00:29:10.739
So you can be confused and degraded if you are put
1089
00:29:10.739 --> 00:29:12.739
into a cell in a war and you're made to,
1090
00:29:12.829 --> 00:29:12.930
you know,
1091
00:29:12.979 --> 00:29:15.199
they shout things at you and they're beating you with sticks and everything else.
1092
00:29:15.719 --> 00:29:16.479
But in a different way,
1093
00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:19.739
you can also be confused and degraded in a Western society.
1094
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.040
It's just not necessarily the state that is doing it
1095
00:29:23.040 --> 00:29:25.020
to you or not doing it to you with violence,
1096
00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:25.560
um,
1097
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.119
but doing it to you with messaging,
1098
00:29:27.199 --> 00:29:28.199
doing it to you with propaganda.
1099
00:29:28.239 --> 00:29:28.719
And Yost,
1100
00:29:28.849 --> 00:29:29.209
by the way,
1101
00:29:29.310 --> 00:29:30.780
he wrote this book 70 years ago,
1102
00:29:30.949 --> 00:29:31.239
um,
1103
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.640
called The Rape of the Mind,
1104
00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:33.520
which is where Micide,
1105
00:29:33.530 --> 00:29:34.599
he lays out this
1106
00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:35.619
Micidal theory.
1107
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:36.319
He's,
1108
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.339
he explicitly says in the beginning of the book,
1109
00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:39.859
I studied Nazis,
1110
00:29:39.959 --> 00:29:41.300
I know how they basically
1111
00:29:41.750 --> 00:29:43.430
Took over all these people's minds,
1112
00:29:43.589 --> 00:29:44.829
but understand that
1113
00:29:45.030 --> 00:29:47.270
this can and will happen in Western countries too,
1114
00:29:47.310 --> 00:29:48.130
and it will just happen
1115
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.930
in smaller groups
1116
00:29:50.069 --> 00:29:51.660
and not to the same extreme,
1117
00:29:51.949 --> 00:29:52.650
hopefully,
1118
00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:53.869
but this is,
1119
00:29:53.989 --> 00:29:56.369
these things can still happen to you
1120
00:29:56.550 --> 00:29:59.420
in these countries where you have radical belief,
1121
00:29:59.589 --> 00:29:59.910
and I mean,
1122
00:29:59.989 --> 00:30:00.229
by the way,
1123
00:30:00.270 --> 00:30:00.469
I would,
1124
00:30:00.550 --> 00:30:01.250
I would argue
1125
00:30:01.589 --> 00:30:02.189
that for example,
1126
00:30:02.229 --> 00:30:04.810
the whole trans agenda in America today
1127
00:30:05.229 --> 00:30:06.430
is a form of radicalism.
1128
00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:07.400
Right,
1129
00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:08.849
so not everyone buys into it.
1130
00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:10.479
It's maybe a 10 or 15%
1131
00:30:11.300 --> 00:30:12.079
issue in this country,
1132
00:30:12.180 --> 00:30:12.500
but
1133
00:30:12.699 --> 00:30:12.979
as you know,
1134
00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:13.219
Stu,
1135
00:30:13.300 --> 00:30:14.640
that's still millions of people.
1136
00:30:15.060 --> 00:30:17.410
Millions of people that believe something that is fundamentally crazy.
1137
00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:17.780
Yeah,
1138
00:30:17.969 --> 00:30:18.170
and,
1139
00:30:18.219 --> 00:30:18.959
and so,
1140
00:30:19.020 --> 00:30:19.030
uh,
1141
00:30:19.140 --> 00:30:21.459
something that they didn't believe not that long ago.
1142
00:30:21.540 --> 00:30:21.729
I mean,
1143
00:30:22.219 --> 00:30:24.660
even the left didn't believe this stuff not that long ago,
1144
00:30:24.699 --> 00:30:25.040
and
1145
00:30:25.260 --> 00:30:26.900
I maintain they really don't believe it,
1146
00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:27.500
even,
1147
00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:28.329
even now,
1148
00:30:28.619 --> 00:30:31.680
but I think it ties into something that you mentioned on identity construction,
1149
00:30:32.390 --> 00:30:32.459
um.
1150
00:30:33.439 --> 00:30:34.819
You talk about how
1151
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.089
and it's interesting because I read the book Atomic Habits.
1152
00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:38.839
I don't know if you know this book,
1153
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.839
it's a big bestseller about how to try to change your life,
1154
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:41.920
right,
1155
00:30:41.959 --> 00:30:44.119
and how to make good habits instead of bad ones.
1156
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.380
One of the things they argue for in the book
1157
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.430
is to tie your habits,
1158
00:30:48.560 --> 00:30:50.020
the things that you want to be,
1159
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.319
to your identity,
1160
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.079
so it becomes part of you and you and you're almost like forced to defend it.
1161
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:56.219
So it's not,
1162
00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:57.800
I want to be a runner someday,
1163
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:59.180
it's like I am a runner.
1164
00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:00.939
Like thinking of that in that context,
1165
00:31:00.979 --> 00:31:02.599
and it reminded me when I was reading this
1166
00:31:02.979 --> 00:31:04.160
about how you say
1167
00:31:04.540 --> 00:31:07.760
that same tactic can be manipulated for evil as well,
1168
00:31:08.300 --> 00:31:08.719
where
1169
00:31:08.939 --> 00:31:11.010
if you get people across that line where they
1170
00:31:11.010 --> 00:31:14.040
believe their identity is I believe in trans kids,
1171
00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:15.500
and that's where they are in their mind,
1172
00:31:15.739 --> 00:31:18.579
they defend it with their soul as if you're attacking them,
1173
00:31:18.739 --> 00:31:20.459
not this obvious idea.
1174
00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:23.119
This is a really effective tactic for the left.
1175
00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:23.729
Well,
1176
00:31:23.770 --> 00:31:25.130
it's fun to have an interviewer who
1177
00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:27.410
actually understands the identity construction chapter,
1178
00:31:27.489 --> 00:31:28.000
so thank you.
1179
00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:29.319
Appreciate that.
1180
00:31:29.719 --> 00:31:30.300
Sometimes people just read it,
1181
00:31:30.329 --> 00:31:30.560
they're like,
1182
00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:31.400
identity construction.
1183
00:31:31.459 --> 00:31:31.599
What,
1184
00:31:31.689 --> 00:31:32.170
what is this thing?
1185
00:31:32.290 --> 00:31:32.869
What is this thing?
1186
00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:33.250
Um,
1187
00:31:33.329 --> 00:31:33.609
but yes,
1188
00:31:33.689 --> 00:31:33.810
no,
1189
00:31:33.890 --> 00:31:35.140
you're hitting on exactly what it is,
1190
00:31:35.209 --> 00:31:36.280
which is you're trying to,
1191
00:31:36.449 --> 00:31:39.550
you're trying to force the beliefs and the person to be
1192
00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:42.849
inextricable in a way where they will defend it,
1193
00:31:43.099 --> 00:31:43.319
uh,
1194
00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:44.400
even more angrily,
1195
00:31:44.479 --> 00:31:44.849
for example,
1196
00:31:44.930 --> 00:31:46.630
if you try to approach it with.
1197
00:31:47.822 --> 00:31:50.602
facts or with data that would disprove it or anything else.
1198
00:31:50.771 --> 00:31:51.251
And in the book,
1199
00:31:51.332 --> 00:31:52.692
I get into cults,
1200
00:31:53.011 --> 00:31:53.131
you know,
1201
00:31:53.251 --> 00:31:54.161
think of it in this way,
1202
00:31:54.411 --> 00:31:56.592
a lot of this mind control stuff is almost like a,
1203
00:31:56.651 --> 00:31:58.472
is really a question of scale
1204
00:31:58.612 --> 00:31:59.432
and force.
1205
00:31:59.732 --> 00:32:01.371
And so North Korea,
1206
00:32:01.612 --> 00:32:01.771
as,
1207
00:32:01.852 --> 00:32:02.972
and I talk about this in the book,
1208
00:32:03.092 --> 00:32:05.031
North Korea is essentially a giant
1209
00:32:05.202 --> 00:32:05.832
cult
1210
00:32:06.092 --> 00:32:06.511
country,
1211
00:32:07.011 --> 00:32:07.131
right?
1212
00:32:07.182 --> 00:32:07.371
It's,
1213
00:32:07.401 --> 00:32:08.271
it's really the,
1214
00:32:08.322 --> 00:32:08.991
the leadership,
1215
00:32:09.092 --> 00:32:09.452
the whole thing.
1216
00:32:09.491 --> 00:32:10.671
It's actually technically a net crop.
1217
00:32:10.904 --> 00:32:11.244
Democracy
1218
00:32:12.053 --> 00:32:12.713
because
1219
00:32:12.894 --> 00:32:13.173
the,
1220
00:32:13.293 --> 00:32:16.213
like the chairman of the Communist Party forever is Kim Il Sung,
1221
00:32:16.293 --> 00:32:16.813
who died,
1222
00:32:16.933 --> 00:32:17.053
you know,
1223
00:32:17.203 --> 00:32:18.433
decades and decades ago,
1224
00:32:18.693 --> 00:32:20.124
but he's still technically the chairman.
1225
00:32:20.333 --> 00:32:21.213
So the whole thing is,
1226
00:32:21.293 --> 00:32:22.833
is effectively a cult.
1227
00:32:23.374 --> 00:32:23.683
Now,
1228
00:32:23.774 --> 00:32:24.693
you don't have that in America,
1229
00:32:24.744 --> 00:32:25.793
but you will have
1230
00:32:26.014 --> 00:32:26.453
in,
1231
00:32:26.573 --> 00:32:26.723
uh,
1232
00:32:26.774 --> 00:32:27.774
in this country,
1233
00:32:27.973 --> 00:32:28.134
you know,
1234
00:32:28.213 --> 00:32:29.124
the Nexium cult,
1235
00:32:29.134 --> 00:32:30.134
or you'll have,
1236
00:32:30.173 --> 00:32:30.723
uh,
1237
00:32:30.994 --> 00:32:31.284
uh,
1238
00:32:31.413 --> 00:32:31.754
the,
1239
00:32:31.774 --> 00:32:31.963
uh,
1240
00:32:31.973 --> 00:32:32.813
Jim Jones cult,
1241
00:32:32.854 --> 00:32:33.093
and I,
1242
00:32:33.173 --> 00:32:34.333
I talk about that in the book.
1243
00:32:34.416 --> 00:32:35.536
They didn't actually drink Kool-Aid,
1244
00:32:35.576 --> 00:32:36.076
by the way.
1245
00:32:36.135 --> 00:32:36.656
It was something,
1246
00:32:36.776 --> 00:32:37.576
it was something else.
1247
00:32:39.125 --> 00:32:39.576
Flavor Aid.
1248
00:32:39.656 --> 00:32:39.885
Thank you.
1249
00:32:39.936 --> 00:32:40.735
It was Flavor Aid.
1250
00:32:40.926 --> 00:32:41.176
Uh,
1251
00:32:41.225 --> 00:32:43.086
I'm actually blanking on the second for the thing.
1252
00:32:43.375 --> 00:32:43.725
Something else,
1253
00:32:43.796 --> 00:32:44.015
by the way,
1254
00:32:44.086 --> 00:32:44.816
they didn't make in the book,
1255
00:32:44.885 --> 00:32:45.086
and I,
1256
00:32:45.135 --> 00:32:45.245
I,
1257
00:32:45.336 --> 00:32:46.656
a lot of what I want people,
1258
00:32:46.776 --> 00:32:49.956
why I want people to go get it is because they'll just learn some cool stuff
1259
00:32:50.255 --> 00:32:51.676
and they'll learn about
1260
00:32:52.015 --> 00:32:52.475
how
1261
00:32:52.816 --> 00:32:55.375
the idea of a secret police force that will just
1262
00:32:55.375 --> 00:32:58.015
terrorize everybody and force everybody to do whatever you want,
1263
00:32:58.336 --> 00:32:58.495
uh,
1264
00:32:58.615 --> 00:33:00.875
was really a 16th century invention.
1265
00:33:01.209 --> 00:33:01.410
Uh,
1266
00:33:01.530 --> 00:33:03.849
that then Hitler and Stalin explicitly,
1267
00:33:03.930 --> 00:33:04.119
I mean,
1268
00:33:04.130 --> 00:33:05.209
they were very aware of this,
1269
00:33:05.250 --> 00:33:07.109
explicitly used as a model
1270
00:33:07.489 --> 00:33:07.930
for their own,
1271
00:33:08.010 --> 00:33:09.150
which is you have to create,
1272
00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:10.329
whether it's brown shirts,
1273
00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:11.089
the SS,
1274
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:11.609
uh,
1275
00:33:11.729 --> 00:33:13.209
or the NKVD or the,
1276
00:33:13.329 --> 00:33:14.270
the Cheka in the,
1277
00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:15.199
in the case of Russia.
1278
00:33:15.329 --> 00:33:15.930
First it was the,
1279
00:33:16.010 --> 00:33:16.689
it was the Okrana,
1280
00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:17.550
then it was the Cheka,
1281
00:33:17.770 --> 00:33:18.599
then it was the NKVD,
1282
00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:19.359
then it was the KGB.
1283
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.599
They changed the names a million times.
1284
00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:21.449
Point is,
1285
00:33:21.780 --> 00:33:22.329
Um,
1286
00:33:22.910 --> 00:33:23.140
when you,
1287
00:33:23.189 --> 00:33:23.709
when you do this,
1288
00:33:23.790 --> 00:33:24.829
you create a,
1289
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.530
a group within your society that is only loyal to you,
1290
00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:31.290
and that is your action arm to terrify everybody.
1291
00:33:31.699 --> 00:33:31.910
Um,
1292
00:33:31.989 --> 00:33:34.369
that's actually an Ivan the Terrible 16th century,
1293
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:35.010
uh,
1294
00:33:35.140 --> 00:33:36.390
pioneered thing,
1295
00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:36.989
if you will.
1296
00:33:37.180 --> 00:33:38.089
So you learned that in the book.
1297
00:33:38.199 --> 00:33:38.469
Um,
1298
00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:39.270
something that got cut,
1299
00:33:39.329 --> 00:33:39.670
by the way,
1300
00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:40.020
was that,
1301
00:33:40.030 --> 00:33:40.619
you know that
1302
00:33:40.790 --> 00:33:42.010
Lemmings don't commit suicide.
1303
00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:43.229
That's just a total myth.
1304
00:33:43.790 --> 00:33:44.270
It's a myth.
1305
00:33:44.300 --> 00:33:44.790
And in fact,
1306
00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:45.189
in fact,
1307
00:33:45.310 --> 00:33:45.800
yes.
1308
00:33:45.989 --> 00:33:46.189
In fact,
1309
00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.030
it's from a documentary that was,
1310
00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:48.270
uh,
1311
00:33:48.349 --> 00:33:49.729
a Disney documentary
1312
00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:50.410
where they,
1313
00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:51.359
they basically
1314
00:33:51.689 --> 00:33:52.770
saw a whole bunch of these,
1315
00:33:52.969 --> 00:33:54.420
a whole bunch of these lemmings,
1316
00:33:54.650 --> 00:33:55.199
and like,
1317
00:33:55.329 --> 00:33:57.619
they kind of like shoved them off the cliff
1318
00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:00.170
and they took like video of them falling down and they're like,
1319
00:34:00.290 --> 00:34:00.829
look at them all.
1320
00:34:00.930 --> 00:34:01.089
I mean,
1321
00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:02.910
it's crazy when you get lemmings,
1322
00:34:03.050 --> 00:34:03.339
think about,
1323
00:34:03.449 --> 00:34:03.630
yeah,
1324
00:34:03.849 --> 00:34:04.680
think about this makes,
1325
00:34:04.810 --> 00:34:05.890
they move in herds,
1326
00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:07.250
but they don't commit mass suicide.
1327
00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:07.770
That's gross.
1328
00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.070
What do you mean commit mass suicide?
1329
00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:09.340
What,
1330
00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.389
what species of animal
1331
00:34:11.560 --> 00:34:12.750
commits mass suicide?
1332
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.010
But the point here that I was gonna make in
1333
00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:16.129
the book is that only human beings actually do this.
1334
00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:17.530
Only human beings will be like,
1335
00:34:17.570 --> 00:34:17.889
you know what,
1336
00:34:17.958 --> 00:34:20.489
we're all gonna kill ourselves simultaneously because like,
1337
00:34:20.570 --> 00:34:20.989
why not?
1338
00:34:21.350 --> 00:34:21.909
Um,
1339
00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:22.750
so yeah,
1340
00:34:22.830 --> 00:34:23.100
that's,
1341
00:34:23.149 --> 00:34:23.228
uh,
1342
00:34:23.310 --> 00:34:25.290
that shows the extent to which mind control,
1343
00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:25.899
uh,
1344
00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:26.310
really works.
1345
00:34:26.389 --> 00:34:26.469
Yeah,
1346
00:34:26.550 --> 00:34:26.938
the Lemmings,
1347
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.270
Lemmings do not commit mass suicide.
1348
00:34:28.310 --> 00:34:29.889
So there's a lot of cool stuff like that in the book,
1349
00:34:30.149 --> 00:34:30.300
but,
1350
00:34:30.310 --> 00:34:30.458
uh,
1351
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:31.790
your identity construction question,
1352
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.070
yes,
1353
00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:36.139
what you do is you want people to have the beliefs essentially as their identity,
1354
00:34:36.389 --> 00:34:37.330
and that is.
1355
00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:38.350
Key in cults,
1356
00:34:38.429 --> 00:34:39.199
it is key in,
1357
00:34:39.208 --> 00:34:39.418
uh,
1358
00:34:39.429 --> 00:34:40.870
totalitarian societies,
1359
00:34:41.149 --> 00:34:41.708
and it is key,
1360
00:34:41.750 --> 00:34:42.228
unfortunately,
1361
00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:43.610
increasingly with
1362
00:34:43.830 --> 00:34:46.409
some of the beliefs that the Democratic Party has adopted,
1363
00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:46.800
uh,
1364
00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:47.649
specific beliefs,
1365
00:34:47.668 --> 00:34:48.668
and I get into what those are.
1366
00:34:48.909 --> 00:34:49.030
Buck,
1367
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:49.949
I have like one minute left.
1368
00:34:49.989 --> 00:34:51.270
I want to follow 11 more question.
1369
00:34:51.330 --> 00:34:52.458
We were talking about Paul Ehrlich,
1370
00:34:52.469 --> 00:34:53.668
who died this week.
1371
00:34:53.998 --> 00:34:55.908
And back then the day he's saying,
1372
00:34:55.958 --> 00:34:56.158
OK,
1373
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:56.918
overpopulation,
1374
00:34:56.958 --> 00:34:57.979
it's the worst thing in the world,
1375
00:34:58.819 --> 00:35:00.239
and America bought into it in large part.
1376
00:35:00.479 --> 00:35:03.198
I would argue because they had a lack of information at the time,
1377
00:35:03.208 --> 00:35:04.678
there was nobody to push back really.
1378
00:35:04.918 --> 00:35:06.878
It's just whatever was on TV is what you believed.
1379
00:35:07.358 --> 00:35:08.799
You argue in the book that the problem now is.
1380
00:35:08.929 --> 00:35:09.929
Not lack of information,
1381
00:35:10.209 --> 00:35:11.419
it's oversaturation.
1382
00:35:11.850 --> 00:35:12.689
We're hitting this.
1383
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.689
We're hitting the AI era coming forward.
1384
00:35:14.750 --> 00:35:16.030
This is only going to get worse
1385
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.530
if you have about 45 seconds.
1386
00:35:17.649 --> 00:35:18.489
Give me like how do we,
1387
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:19.370
how do we solve this?
1388
00:35:19.439 --> 00:35:20.530
I can get the full details,
1389
00:35:20.540 --> 00:35:20.810
of course,
1390
00:35:20.850 --> 00:35:21.250
in the book,
1391
00:35:21.350 --> 00:35:23.850
but give me a summary of something that we can do.
1392
00:35:24.979 --> 00:35:28.669
There's a chapter on this toward the end on artificial intelligence and how
1393
00:35:28.669 --> 00:35:31.229
that this is only gonna get worse because I think that they can,
1394
00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:32.790
they can really sub-target,
1395
00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:33.100
uh,
1396
00:35:33.149 --> 00:35:35.229
for people who are more susceptible to certain
1397
00:35:35.229 --> 00:35:37.270
approaches with this and certain belief systems and,
1398
00:35:37.379 --> 00:35:38.209
and different
1399
00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:39.379
political causes,
1400
00:35:39.429 --> 00:35:40.409
which is really what this is
1401
00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:40.939
ultimately.
1402
00:35:41.030 --> 00:35:42.330
It's about power ultimately.
1403
00:35:42.510 --> 00:35:42.780
Um,
1404
00:35:42.830 --> 00:35:43.030
the,
1405
00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:43.850
the real
1406
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:45.270
way around this,
1407
00:35:45.310 --> 00:35:45.590
or the,
1408
00:35:45.669 --> 00:35:48.590
the real fir first step in this is just live not by lies.
1409
00:35:48.649 --> 00:35:49.830
It's Solzhenitsyn's.
1410
00:35:50.399 --> 00:35:51.199
Live not by lies.
1411
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.639
Do not anyone who is lying to you is causing a problem.
1412
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.169
Anyone who is lying to you does not have your interests at heart,
1413
00:35:57.389 --> 00:35:57.600
uh,
1414
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.189
when you're talking about any of these issues.
1415
00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:02.550
And so you just have to look for the lie right away every time.
1416
00:36:02.830 --> 00:36:03.060
And,
1417
00:36:03.080 --> 00:36:03.239
you know,
1418
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:03.989
this is the thing like with,
1419
00:36:04.040 --> 00:36:04.760
with climate change,
1420
00:36:04.919 --> 00:36:05.010
like,
1421
00:36:05.070 --> 00:36:05.179
well,
1422
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.719
the guy's wrong and he made up the data,
1423
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.780
but like it's for a good cause.
1424
00:36:07.919 --> 00:36:08.459
No.
1425
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:10.090
Same thing with COVID,
1426
00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:10.260
right?
1427
00:36:10.310 --> 00:36:10.570
It's like,
1428
00:36:10.620 --> 00:36:11.070
oh well,
1429
00:36:11.139 --> 00:36:11.260
you know,
1430
00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:12.010
we pretend that,
1431
00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:12.250
uh,
1432
00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:13.659
natural immunity doesn't exist anymore,
1433
00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:14.580
but it's for a good cause.
1434
00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:15.360
No,
1435
00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:16.120
that's
1436
00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:17.120
not gonna fly.
1437
00:36:17.419 --> 00:36:19.129
So you have to always look for the lie,
1438
00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:20.879
and that is the step of protecting yourself.
1439
00:36:21.219 --> 00:36:23.639
And also watch Stu's awesome show because
1440
00:36:23.939 --> 00:36:25.320
he doesn't fall for those lies,
1441
00:36:25.330 --> 00:36:25.739
like them,
1442
00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:26.969
like those fools out there.
1443
00:36:27.139 --> 00:36:27.290
I,
1444
00:36:27.379 --> 00:36:28.100
I try my best.
1445
00:36:28.169 --> 00:36:28.250
I,
1446
00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:30.300
that's why I read books by Buck Sexton,
1447
00:36:30.409 --> 00:36:30.530
uh,
1448
00:36:30.580 --> 00:36:31.060
to,
1449
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.719
to learn kind of the recipe about how they do this
1450
00:36:33.939 --> 00:36:34.219
to you.
1451
00:36:34.340 --> 00:36:34.540
Of course,
1452
00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:35.179
Buck is the co-host.
1453
00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.500
Host of Clay Travis Buck's Texton Show,
1454
00:36:37.939 --> 00:36:41.610
author of Manufacturing Delusion How the Left Uses Brainwashing,
1455
00:36:41.899 --> 00:36:43.689
Indoctrination and Propaganda Against You,
1456
00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:44.899
and Blaze alum,
1457
00:36:44.979 --> 00:36:45.729
we should not forget,
1458
00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:46.639
of course,
1459
00:36:47.209 --> 00:36:48.399
Premiere Radio friend,
1460
00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:50.280
Blaze TV alum
1461
00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:51.379
from back in the day.
1462
00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:53.020
Be sure to grab a copy wherever you get your books.
1463
00:36:53.060 --> 00:36:53.580
This is really great.
1464
00:36:53.620 --> 00:36:55.939
It's kind of like the recipe on everything that's going on right now.
1465
00:36:56.219 --> 00:36:57.739
It will be explained in detail for you.
1466
00:36:57.939 --> 00:36:58.659
Get this book.
1467
00:36:58.939 --> 00:36:59.139
Buck,
1468
00:36:59.459 --> 00:37:00.379
thanks so much for coming on the program,
1469
00:37:00.469 --> 00:37:00.570
man.
1470
00:37:00.600 --> 00:37:01.439
It's great to see you.
1471
00:37:01.979 --> 00:37:02.370
Great to see you.
1472
00:37:02.419 --> 00:37:02.649
Thank you,
1473
00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:02.919
Stu.
1474
00:37:11.939 --> 00:37:12.239
Well,
1475
00:37:12.340 --> 00:37:13.479
if you're in Illinois.
1476
00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:15.239
You have a great,
1477
00:37:15.379 --> 00:37:16.090
great life,
1478
00:37:16.370 --> 00:37:18.389
but you also have a primary today,
1479
00:37:18.520 --> 00:37:18.959
uh,
1480
00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:20.649
big primary on the Democratic side.
1481
00:37:20.689 --> 00:37:22.169
There's a bunch of them up and down the ballot,
1482
00:37:22.449 --> 00:37:23.709
kind of the divide
1483
00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:24.879
between,
1484
00:37:24.889 --> 00:37:25.199
uh,
1485
00:37:25.209 --> 00:37:26.310
different factions
1486
00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:27.250
of the left.
1487
00:37:27.370 --> 00:37:29.070
Maybe the biggest race
1488
00:37:29.330 --> 00:37:30.000
is an interesting one.
1489
00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:31.510
I should check this as I'm talking to you,
1490
00:37:31.570 --> 00:37:32.080
um,
1491
00:37:32.409 --> 00:37:33.530
go on one of these prediction markets,
1492
00:37:33.570 --> 00:37:34.429
as you may know,
1493
00:37:34.850 --> 00:37:37.310
I'm gonna be doing a show about prediction markets coming up very soon.
1494
00:37:37.729 --> 00:37:37.739
Uh,
1495
00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:39.760
and the show is called Predictable with Stu,
1496
00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:43.070
going to be available to you in the middle of April.
1497
00:37:43.290 --> 00:37:45.629
And one of the things we're going to be talking about a lot of these races,
1498
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:45.889
uh,
1499
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:46.570
and
1500
00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:47.409
it is,
1501
00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:47.899
uh,
1502
00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:48.129
you know,
1503
00:37:48.169 --> 00:37:50.459
it's kind of an interesting thing to,
1504
00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:50.719
uh,
1505
00:37:50.810 --> 00:37:51.810
to see play out
1506
00:37:52.929 --> 00:37:53.649
across the country,
1507
00:37:53.810 --> 00:37:54.719
especially when you come through the,
1508
00:37:54.729 --> 00:37:55.489
the primary season.
1509
00:37:55.729 --> 00:37:58.429
Much more difficult to predict than the actual elections.
1510
00:37:58.770 --> 00:37:58.780
Um,
1511
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.310
it's a little bit more wild.
1512
00:38:00.449 --> 00:38:02.129
The polling is not nearly as good.
1513
00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:02.459
Um,
1514
00:38:03.250 --> 00:38:04.889
so it can be a little bit difficult,
1515
00:38:05.010 --> 00:38:05.409
but let's see,
1516
00:38:05.449 --> 00:38:07.770
we have the Illinois Democratic Senate nominee,
1517
00:38:07.810 --> 00:38:08.989
that's the race we're talking about,
1518
00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:09.580
um,
1519
00:38:09.810 --> 00:38:11.669
and a very small,
1520
00:38:11.729 --> 00:38:12.489
a small lead now.
1521
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:13.870
It's been about a 50/50
1522
00:38:14.770 --> 00:38:16.110
race in the prediction markets
1523
00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:17.709
as we're leading up to vote time
1524
00:38:18.209 --> 00:38:19.370
between Juliana Stratton.
1525
00:38:19.449 --> 00:38:20.689
She's the one that was
1526
00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:22.489
endorsed by Pritzker,
1527
00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:23.149
who's the main,
1528
00:38:23.649 --> 00:38:24.159
who's the governor.
1529
00:38:24.209 --> 00:38:25.350
She was the lieutenant governor,
1530
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:26.209
you know,
1531
00:38:26.370 --> 00:38:28.409
Tammy Duckworth also came along,
1532
00:38:28.530 --> 00:38:29.689
big figures in Illinois.
1533
00:38:29.979 --> 00:38:30.979
And then uh
1534
00:38:31.129 --> 00:38:32.139
we're just going to call him Raja.
1535
00:38:32.219 --> 00:38:33.479
That's what people are tend to be calling him.
1536
00:38:33.729 --> 00:38:34.020
Why?
1537
00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:34.830
Because it's like a,
1538
00:38:34.939 --> 00:38:35.449
I think it's,
1539
00:38:35.540 --> 00:38:36.679
is it Indian last name?
1540
00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:37.179
I'm not sure.
1541
00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:38.120
I think it's Indian.
1542
00:38:38.739 --> 00:38:40.580
And there's about 644 letters,
1543
00:38:40.699 --> 00:38:42.370
lots of O's and H's and I's in it.
1544
00:38:42.530 --> 00:38:42.540
I,
1545
00:38:42.580 --> 00:38:42.699
I,
1546
00:38:42.820 --> 00:38:43.739
I don't know how to pronounce it.
1547
00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:44.820
I'm not even going to attempt it.
1548
00:38:44.979 --> 00:38:45.729
And that's the thing,
1549
00:38:45.909 --> 00:38:47.139
you don't expect that from me.
1550
00:38:47.419 --> 00:38:48.340
You didn't expect me to know.
1551
00:38:48.729 --> 00:38:50.570
How to pronounce the names of the candidates.
1552
00:38:50.689 --> 00:38:51.750
That's not what I do here.
1553
00:38:52.129 --> 00:38:54.530
But he spent like $29 million on ads,
1554
00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:56.500
outspent his competitors by a lot.
1555
00:38:56.770 --> 00:38:58.449
You're at a 50/50 type of race here.
1556
00:38:58.530 --> 00:39:00.350
There's a third candidate as well in the race.
1557
00:39:00.489 --> 00:39:02.159
It's not like Texas where there's a runoff,
1558
00:39:02.409 --> 00:39:04.370
so it's going to theoretically be decided,
1559
00:39:04.449 --> 00:39:05.080
but it could be very,
1560
00:39:05.169 --> 00:39:05.850
very close today.
1561
00:39:05.949 --> 00:39:06.280
Right now,
1562
00:39:06.290 --> 00:39:06.969
Raja
1563
00:39:07.290 --> 00:39:08.669
has a 59%
1564
00:39:09.169 --> 00:39:10.169
on Calci,
1565
00:39:10.250 --> 00:39:10.909
for example,
1566
00:39:11.209 --> 00:39:13.070
when you talk about that market going forward.
1567
00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:15.850
And then we have another upcoming primary,
1568
00:39:15.889 --> 00:39:17.010
which is a fascinating one
1569
00:39:17.330 --> 00:39:17.889
in Maine.
1570
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:18.370
Well,
1571
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:20.189
they're going to be going up against Susan Collins,
1572
00:39:20.439 --> 00:39:22.639
who's won many times but is always vulnerable,
1573
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.300
and Maine is obviously a blue state.
1574
00:39:24.600 --> 00:39:25.760
Hard for a Republican to win there.
1575
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:27.820
You have to kind of be a Susan Collins type
1576
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:28.699
to have a chance.
1577
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.370
normally,
1578
00:39:29.610 --> 00:39:31.179
though Collins isn't particularly,
1579
00:39:31.959 --> 00:39:32.320
you know,
1580
00:39:32.959 --> 00:39:34.189
popular in Maine right now.
1581
00:39:35.129 --> 00:39:36.879
Now they have a somewhat popular governor.
1582
00:39:36.919 --> 00:39:38.120
Her name is Janet Mills.
1583
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.830
She was recruited heavily by the Democrats.
1584
00:39:41.120 --> 00:39:42.225
They got her into the Race.
1585
00:39:42.235 --> 00:39:44.415
This was assumed to be this major coup
1586
00:39:44.935 --> 00:39:46.334
for her to be in the race,
1587
00:39:46.834 --> 00:39:49.475
and then some guy with a Nazi tattoo came in and was like,
1588
00:39:49.594 --> 00:39:49.754
Hey,
1589
00:39:49.834 --> 00:39:51.425
what if I run and now he's winning.
1590
00:39:51.875 --> 00:39:53.425
So I kind of a crazy situation.
1591
00:39:53.875 --> 00:39:57.155
There's a new ad by Janet Mills to try to get this primary back into her control,
1592
00:39:59.114 --> 00:40:01.754
and she released this negative ad about some of the
1593
00:40:01.754 --> 00:40:04.254
things that Plattner has been saying over the years.
1594
00:40:04.314 --> 00:40:05.395
They're fascinating.
1595
00:40:06.139 --> 00:40:10.000
Did you know Graham Plattner wrote that women worried about rape need to quote,
1596
00:40:10.139 --> 00:40:13.639
not get so up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to.
1597
00:40:14.090 --> 00:40:14.830
Disgusting.
1598
00:40:15.020 --> 00:40:15.610
Plattner wrote,
1599
00:40:15.649 --> 00:40:16.360
to avoid rape,
1600
00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:17.280
women should quote,
1601
00:40:17.379 --> 00:40:18.929
act like an adult for sake.
1602
00:40:19.129 --> 00:40:19.770
Graham Plattner.
1603
00:40:19.850 --> 00:40:20.300
Seriously,
1604
00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:21.350
we blame the victim.
1605
00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:22.850
That's a horrible thing to say.
1606
00:40:22.969 --> 00:40:23.729
Disqualifying.
1607
00:40:23.830 --> 00:40:24.739
I have not seen this.
1608
00:40:24.879 --> 00:40:25.570
He's a bully.
1609
00:40:25.689 --> 00:40:26.969
This guy gives off a vibe.
1610
00:40:27.129 --> 00:40:29.639
Just no way I could vote for you.
1611
00:40:30.010 --> 00:40:30.370
No,
1612
00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:31.290
Graham Plattner,
1613
00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:32.330
the closer you look,
1614
00:40:32.449 --> 00:40:33.469
the worse it gets.
1615
00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:34.449
I'm Janet Mills,
1616
00:40:34.479 --> 00:40:35.929
and I approve this message.
1617
00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:37.010
She's looking fabulous.
1618
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.810
The both of them looking fabulous in that video.
1619
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:39.850
I love the way he's like,
1620
00:40:39.929 --> 00:40:40.919
he gives off a vibe.
1621
00:40:41.110 --> 00:40:41.330
Yeah,
1622
00:40:41.409 --> 00:40:41.969
he kind of does,
1623
00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:42.570
doesn't he?
1624
00:40:43.080 --> 00:40:46.129
It's it's a sort of rapey Nazi vibe,
1625
00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:47.959
but why wouldn't he be,
1626
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:48.600
by the way,
1627
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.820
up 75 to 26%
1628
00:40:51.479 --> 00:40:54.510
when it comes to the prediction markets over Janet Mills?
1629
00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:55.040
This is going to be,
1630
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.080
this is probably very good for Susan Collins.
1631
00:40:58.189 --> 00:40:59.870
Mills would have been a difficult opponent,
1632
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:00.780
though,
1633
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:01.520
you know,
1634
00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:03.800
Platter seems to keep performing in these polls.
1635
00:41:03.919 --> 00:41:04.879
Just people like the dude.
1636
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:06.229
They just like the Nazi tattoo.
1637
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:06.719
What can I say?
1638
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.520
That's Maine for you.
1639
00:41:08.729 --> 00:41:10.250
I love Nazi tattoos in Maine.
1640
00:41:11.169 --> 00:41:14.159
Hakeem Jeffries is growing threat of a 2027 rebellion.
1641
00:41:14.370 --> 00:41:14.530
Again,
1642
00:41:14.570 --> 00:41:16.550
the assumption here is that the Democrats win
1643
00:41:16.850 --> 00:41:17.250
the House.
1644
00:41:17.330 --> 00:41:21.399
That one is about 85% chance on calcium poly market right now.
1645
00:41:21.770 --> 00:41:22.810
I don't know if there's much value there,
1646
00:41:22.889 --> 00:41:23.090
by the way,
1647
00:41:23.149 --> 00:41:24.239
if you're playing these prediction markets,
1648
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:25.090
85%.
1649
00:41:25.489 --> 00:41:26.330
It's probably,
1650
00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:26.659
uh,
1651
00:41:26.770 --> 00:41:27.830
it's priced pretty well,
1652
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:28.120
uh,
1653
00:41:28.169 --> 00:41:28.489
honestly.
1654
00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:29.570
They are definitely the favorites,
1655
00:41:29.610 --> 00:41:30.169
but if they win,
1656
00:41:30.330 --> 00:41:32.330
will Hakeem Jeffries be in leadership?
1657
00:41:32.689 --> 00:41:33.530
Questions about that.
1658
00:41:33.649 --> 00:41:34.889
He's really not an effective guy.
1659
00:41:34.969 --> 00:41:36.090
He's kind of a dolt,
1660
00:41:36.409 --> 00:41:37.010
kind of a zero,
1661
00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:37.719
a zilch,
1662
00:41:38.100 --> 00:41:38.189
uh,
1663
00:41:38.290 --> 00:41:39.270
so not really doing well.
1664
00:41:39.449 --> 00:41:42.439
Unlike this woman who's running for Senate in Minnesota,
1665
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.310
who was found guilty in a tarantula throwing incident.
1666
00:41:45.689 --> 00:41:46.149
Now one thing,
1667
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:46.250
uh,
1668
00:41:46.409 --> 00:41:50.139
not known much about my life is I took out a book from the library,
1669
00:41:50.409 --> 00:41:50.810
Old Sabre,
1670
00:41:50.889 --> 00:41:51.419
Connecticut,
1671
00:41:51.810 --> 00:41:51.820
uh,
1672
00:41:51.889 --> 00:41:53.070
titled Spiders.
1673
00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:54.969
And then forgot to return it.
1674
00:41:55.189 --> 00:41:56.780
It's the first crime I've ever committed,
1675
00:41:57.500 --> 00:41:58.800
among many in the future.
1676
00:41:59.370 --> 00:42:00.760
So I was kind of into the spider thing.
1677
00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:03.139
Tarantula is not really that deadly to humans though.
1678
00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:03.340
I mean,
1679
00:42:03.379 --> 00:42:05.929
it's the black widows you've got to be a little more terrified of.
1680
00:42:05.979 --> 00:42:06.580
I've seen one of those.
1681
00:42:06.659 --> 00:42:07.560
One was in my garage.
1682
00:42:08.149 --> 00:42:08.159
Well,
1683
00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:09.419
I found a black widow in my garage.
1684
00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:10.020
That was a real thing,
1685
00:42:10.120 --> 00:42:11.159
a real story of my life.
1686
00:42:11.459 --> 00:42:12.439
So criminal
1687
00:42:12.929 --> 00:42:13.679
from the library
1688
00:42:14.350 --> 00:42:15.520
and had a black widow spider.
1689
00:42:16.469 --> 00:42:17.540
In my garage,
1690
00:42:17.669 --> 00:42:19.330
the two main things that have occurred
1691
00:42:19.469 --> 00:42:20.050
in my existence.
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Back in a second.
1693
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Well,
1694
00:42:33.120 --> 00:42:33.250
well,
1695
00:42:33.370 --> 00:42:33.489
well,
1696
00:42:33.649 --> 00:42:34.120
it looks like,
1697
00:42:34.129 --> 00:42:34.439
uh,
1698
00:42:34.449 --> 00:42:38.669
Pat and Keith and Jeffy and Chris Cruz didn't have the cojones
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