Human Design Chart Reading: Manifestors, Projectors & Strategy

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Hello, welcome to Practically Magic, Witches
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and Wizards. We're here today with a guest. This
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is Esther Graves, my good friend. Hello. Welcome.
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She is a human design expert today. We're going
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to be talking human design. I'm so excited. She
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taught me everything I know, which is very little
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at the moment, but I'm working on it. I'm a terrible
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student, but I'm slowly getting used to it. I've
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been working with it since 2019 and there are
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still things that I have to go back to right
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over whose book or, you know, something because
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I'm like, wait, what's this? Yeah. And there's
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a lot of great resources out there, which is
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the good news. Yes. So you're going to tell us
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some resources we can go to get that. Obviously,
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taking a class is an awesome idea. You're also
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a medium. So let's not forget that. Any other
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titles that you want people to know about? So
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I typically refer to myself as a psychic medium.
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Not every psychic is a medium, but every medium
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is a psychic is kind of the rule that I follow.
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Yeah, I, psychic medium, I read tarot, oracle.
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It's, I love teacher is a big word for me. I
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love to teach, whether it is. Like oftentimes
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when I'm doing a mediumship reading, it ends
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up being educating people about what's going
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on on the other side, what's happening, you know,
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what their loved ones are experiencing, all that
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jazz. So yeah, teacher is another. Same, same.
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Always be a teacher at heart, I think, too. So
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yeah, it's the same boat. So we're going to start
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pulling a card as we do on this podcast. This
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is my. My favorite way to start the day and start
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our episodes. And you get to be here to help
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us interpret the card and what comes up for you.
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Can you tell me what the deck is that you're
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using? I left it over there so I can't grab it,
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but it's the Osho Zen. Tarot deck, which is a
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little obscure. Like, I'll be honest, this is
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one that I struggle with a little bit because
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it doesn't look traditional. It doesn't have
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obvious suits and major arcana that you usually
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see. So I read it a little bit more like an oracle
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deck. Like, each card, just pull it and see intuitively
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what comes up because it's a little bit out there
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for a deck, for a tarot deck. I love the more
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unique decks. I love the decks that tell. A very
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different and unique story because it helps you
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gain a different perspective on what could be
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otherwise a very typical experience. Oh, gosh.
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Even as I'm shuffling, there's cards just flying
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out. You asked for one. You're getting five.
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Yeah. Okay. So I will show. So for those who
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are watching on YouTube and you can see the video,
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I will show what the card looks like. And so
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Esther can see it. I love a card that tells a
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story. Let's see if I can explain it. What is
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it? I couldn't read what it was. It's a sort
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of clown -like character celebrating with lots
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of confetti around them and they're riding a
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tiger. The number on the card is six. And the
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word that comes with it is success. Okay. So
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that makes me think six of wands, maybe. It's
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not obvious. No. And I don't have the guidebook
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on purpose because I don't want to. I don't want
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to even be told what it might be. But we're just
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going to read it intuitively. What do you think
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this message is for people if they were listening
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now? And by the way, I just say whenever you
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happen upon this episode and whatever the card
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pull is, it's what's meant for you at this time.
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So for audience who are listening. This is your
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card for this week. What would you say is like
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the message we're giving? I mean, we did just
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make it through eclipse season. So success. We
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made it. We made it through. So sixes come after
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fives and fives are typically some sort of conflict.
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And so that success of like, hey, we made it
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through. And even though it might seem like a
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small win, a win's a win. And we can celebrate
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and be proud of ourselves. for that accomplishment.
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That's my take on it. I love that because that
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is what I need. I need just a little bit of like,
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we made it through that. Esther knows that we
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had AC out at my house. We couldn't even record
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last week. Like eclipse season just wrecked me.
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But yeah, I love the idea of just like celebrating
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whatever, even any tiny little wins that you
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happen to have, whatever's going on with you
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in your life. Just say, at least I made it through
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that. At least I'm here. And maybe with a little
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bit of whimsy and a little bit of, like, it doesn't
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have to make sense for it to, for you to go for
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it and do it. Like, the writing of Tiger to me
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is just like, why? Because we want to. Because
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we can't. Well, and it signals a quiet power
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that that individual is under control of. That,
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like, they're not trying to force the power.
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They're not trying to, like. The clown was just
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kind of lazily riding, right? They weren't trying.
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I didn't see a rain or anything like that. We're
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just riding this power, riding this force and
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celebrating as we move through the parade. Just
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going through it. Yeah. I rode an elephant once.
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And, you know, it was one of those things that
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they're right. You know, they put you on one
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and they just ride around in a little circle.
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with kids and stuff. And I remember thinking,
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this elephant could go anywhere they want to
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go and nobody would be able to stop it. And I
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think it's absolutely perfect. Are we ready to
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dive into your human design chart? Absolutely.
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That's a good segue, right? Because I am an elephant.
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Yeah, the elephant is, in my opinion, what the
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manifester is, the archetype. There's a couple
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of different things that I equate. different
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parts of your chart too, to help people understand
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a little bit better. Oh, that's interesting.
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Okay. Yeah. So give us like an overview, like
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what is human design for somebody who's like,
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wait, this is a whole other thing. Yeah. So human
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design is a system that combines astrology, numerology,
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the I Ching, the Kabbalah, your chakra, some
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quantum physics. puts all of these systems together
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to create a new system that shows you your body's
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energetic blueprint. So it shows you where you
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hold your own consistent energy and you loan
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that out for other people to experience life
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in your unique way and where you're going to
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take on energy from other people so that you
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can experience life in all the many different
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varieties and flavors and experiences that there
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are to offer. knowing your human design, understanding
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your human design, even if it's just two different
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pieces that are probably the most important pieces
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of it, your aura type and your strategy with
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that. And then the second part being your authority,
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your body's way of communicating what is right
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to you. You minimize conflict with universal
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energies, with other people's energies. You get
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into flow. Get into authenticity. You get into
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you find yourself. I have done a couple of readings
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this last week with some some people who are
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just being introduced to it. And there was one
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lady that she started crying because I was describing
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to her how she has felt her whole life. She's
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she's my age. She's in her 40s. And she has felt
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the way that I was describing her chart. That's
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how she felt. But she was trying to conform to
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what everyone else was doing and trying to do
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what everyone else is doing. And it wasn't working.
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And she was just getting rejected and rebuffed
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and not betrayed, but like the feeling of betrayed
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of like, I thought these people knew me. I thought
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these people saw me when in fact they didn't.
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Just trying to make her into something that fit
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their narrative or their expectation. And that's
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exactly how I felt when I found human design
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in 2019. I was doing readings at a shop here
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in the Salt Lake Valley. And I was in this back
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seating, seated area. And I could hear the gal
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who was running the store and her friend who
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had come in to visit. They were chatting at the
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front desk. And I could hear them talking, but
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I couldn't hear what they were saying. But I
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had goosebumps like everywhere. And so I got
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up and I walked. just like casually, you know,
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eavesdropping, just like got closer and closer
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and closer. I got like the more intense the chills
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got. And then when I was like hearing what they
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were saying, I didn't understand anything, but
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I knew I needed to know everything, all of it.
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And so then they had me pull up my chart and
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this was like. Kind of the beginning of human
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design making its way here into the U .S. Like
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it's still like a month later, the very first
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app on my on our phones were made available.
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And so like a month later, I found this app and
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I downloaded it and purchased everything that
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I could. And that's still the app that I use.
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It's the human design app. went out and bought,
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so the founder of Human Design is a man called
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Ra Uruhu. Don't ask me what it means. I don't
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remember. But he worked together with a woman
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named Linda Bunnell and they published a book.
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It's $50. I can only ever find it on Amazon.
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I can never find it anywhere else. But I still
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use it as a reference. So Ra, when he wrote his
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book, when he put all of this information out
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there, he knew that it was meant to grow, change
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and evolve as people took, you know, their own
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interpretations of it. Like, for example, probably
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one of the things we're going to talk about is
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the terminology. Ra would call people martyrs
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and heretics and people hear those words and
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they're like. Yeah. F you. There might be a little
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bit of a wound in those titles. Yeah. And so
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people like Jenna Zoe, who is an Australian human
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design, she's more of an expert than I am, I
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would say, because she took Ra Uruju and Linda
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Bunnell's courses in Ibiza, Spain. So this was
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developed in Spain. So if you're ever looking
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at something that Ra put out. It's in Spanish
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originally, and then they translate it. And like
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Spain, Spanish, not like, like I don't speak
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English. I speak American. I speak Yutan specifically.
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There's a difference. People from Utah or have
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been to Utah will understand that. Yes. Yes.
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So Jenna Zoe took on the whole human design system
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and mostly left everything like the same. But
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some of the things she changed was the terminology.
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And so, for example, she calls the manifestor
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the fire starter, right? There's another gal,
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I can't remember her name, but she's pretty big
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in the human design world. And she calls you
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guys initiators, which is another word that I
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think is a really amazing word because that is
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what you are here to do. You are here to get
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something started, not necessarily finish it,
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though. You are here to launch things. And that's
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where I see your energy as the rocket, right?
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You get this huge launch. So if you are looking
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at your chart and you see pure manifester, manifesting
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generator, another creature, okay? Just manifester.
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You are a fire starter. You are initiators. You
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are here to get something started. You're an
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elephant. You are here to lead by doing your
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own thing, by not telling people what to do,
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not being bossy. You're telling people, this
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is what I'm doing. This is what I'm getting started.
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This is the direction I'm going in. Get on board
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or get out of my way. That's what a manifestor
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is. So historically, you guys were leaders in
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like you would go and conquer a territory and
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then rule over it. But now, unfortunately, when
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we have manifestors in position of power, they
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are looking at the big picture. Like that is
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your guys' focus, right, is the big picture of
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all of the people. manifestors will put in systems
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that are blanket coverage right that it's not
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super customizable it's not super right yeah
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and we have projectors coming onto the scene
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who are connecting with the individual on an
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individual setting up systems that are customizable
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to what the individual needs um because we live
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in a society of plenty like i know that like
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Media and things like that are going to tell
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you that we're living in a day and age that it's
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survival of the fittest. And it's not anymore.
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Like we have so much and so many resources. There's
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more than enough to go around. And anyway, that's
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a whole. Yeah. Anyway. Well, as on behalf of
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the manifestors. So we're kind of getting into.
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We'll get into my chart a little bit because
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I've done readings with Esther where I'll come
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and say, you know, oh, my gosh, I'm feeling so
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lost career wise. I don't know what I should
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be focusing on. I feel like I need a little direction
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here, which has been super helpful because human
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design, in my opinion, and I heard somebody else
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say it this way, which is like if you're a vacuum
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and you're trying to operate as a blender, you're
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doing life like all wrong because you're not.
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blender. You're a vacuum. You're meant to be
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a vacuum. You're meant to do this. So seeing
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and knowing your human design chart can be so
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powerful. And like, don't try to waste that time
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and energy being somebody you're not or trying
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to operate in a certain way that you're not meant
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to. And so I think it was really helpful to me
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to know that. And on behalf of manifestors who
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are the leaders and dictators previously of this
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world, I absolutely get that. Because I think
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my family would call me the dictator of our family
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and our home and how I run it. But I am happy
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to hand over leadership. I am happy to do it.
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You guys are here to be autonomous. Yes, you're
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here to be autonomous and to do what you want.
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in these lifetimes as a manifester. So, and that
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was another thing that I usually say is we choose
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the bodies that we do because we know they're
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going to be built and designed in a specific
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way. So we have the experience and we learn the
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lessons that we're here to learn in this lifetime.
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So, yes. So to put things in perspective, 9%,
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9 % of the world population is a pure manifester.
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versus the 70 % of the world population that
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is a generator or a manifesting generator that
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has generator energy in it, right? 70 % versus
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9%. So most manifestors try... to be generators.
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They try to live in response because that's the
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generator strategy is to respond to life as it
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comes to them rather than as manifestors here
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to inform people to get things started, to get
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things going, to initiate and to get things launched.
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The manifestor aura pushes out in a way versus
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the generator aura that pulls in. And so, yeah,
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a lot of manifestors in particular get so angry
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because People are trying to tell them what to
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do and they can feel that that is not right.
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They are the one meant to be informing and telling
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people, this is what I'm doing. You do you. You're
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not trying to control anybody. You're not trying
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to tell anybody else what they need to be doing.
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You are just telling people, this is what I'm
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doing. Get on board with it or get out of my
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way. Sorry, I don't know. The allergies and all
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that stuff has been messing. with my vocal cords
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for the last couple of days. So this is fun.
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I know. Seasonal changes and all that. It's just
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beautiful and wonderful. I don't get it in my
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vocal cords. I get it in my eyes and then I tear
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up and then everyone thinks I'm crying all the
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time. I'm just emotional. You know, I'm a Pisces.
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It's fine. Oh, yes. My Pisces moon understands.
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Although like randomly, I'll just. wake up one
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morning and just need to cry all day long. And
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my husband's like, what's wrong? And I'm like,
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I don't know. Just leave me alone. Just go over.
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I am. It's what I meant to do. I know. And that
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eclipse, as you mentioned, was like intense.
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Kind of emotional energy. But you pulled at my
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chart too in the moment of when the eclipse was
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happening, seeing like different places in the
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chart that were activated and that the astrology
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and what's going on in the astrology can affect
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all of those things. And that was kind of insane
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to me because I was like, I absolutely feel way
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more intuitive for some reason this last few
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weeks. Like I felt like, I don't know how I know,
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but I know things. My son was so angry at me
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because I'd be like, you were watching TV in
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this room before I walked in, weren't you? And
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he was like, no. And I'm like, look, I know.
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You don't have to. I'm like, I don't know how
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I know, but I know. Look, your mom's a witch.
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I don't know what to tell you. Just you can't
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get away with anything. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, yeah. So over. That period of time, at least
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here in this part of the world, the current transits
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were activating. So inside your chart, for those
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of you who don't know, there's something called
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gates. Jenna Zoe calls them gifts. And they correlate
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to the 64 gates of the I Ching, which is an ancient
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divination method. But in human design, they
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represent personality traits, characteristics
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that are either selectively activated. So like
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they're activated by the planets moving around.
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Or they are activated all the time by your birth
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chart, right? So at the time, sorry, at the time
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gate 57 and gate 20 were activated. And that
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is, we call it a psychic channel because 57 is
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the gate of the future. It can show up as a fear
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of the future or anxiety about the future of
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what's going to happen. But a lot of people who
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have gate 57 have. future telling psychic abilities
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like it's it's a thing and going up to 20 which
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i'm trying to remember would get and this is
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the thing like i don't have all of the gate memorized
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yeah well why would you have to if you've got
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all the resources available yeah yes contemplation
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the now um the power of presence and action in
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the moment is key to this gate you act and speak
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with clarity with uh when fully attuned to the
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present without the need to plan ahead anyway
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so it's kind of like all about speaking connected
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to where things are going and so when that full
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channel is activated either in someone's chart
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all the time or by the planets it comes up as
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an ability to see what the natural progression
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and flow of things is going to go. So we can
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get a bit more clarity and understanding about
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the choices of like, okay, this is what is most
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likely going to happen. I have free will and
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control so I can change that. So if I don't like
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the feel of how that is going, I can make different
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choices that are then going to change that outcome.
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Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. And that kind
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of answers people's questions because I know
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that there are people that are going to be like,
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well, if everything's written out and it's this
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way and it's very stagnant and very stuck. I
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mean, the whole idea of fate versus destiny,
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the Orlog and the Vird and Nordic mythology.
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It's like how much control and free will do we
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have and what is written out for us? I think
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that makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah. So in
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human design, you have the centers, which are
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the shapes. And those correlate to the chakras.
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I'm going to show a little. This is my chart.
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I'll show on the screen so those who can see.
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So the diamond in the center, it's white. Just
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below the square, the brown square, or is it
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a red square? I can't tell from... Anyway. It's
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brown on mine, but it's a different one than
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yours. So yeah. So that diamond is called...
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the G center or the identity center. And so for
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someone who has an undefined, it's white, there's
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no consistent energy in that center, meaning
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they're going to take on the energy of other
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people. And so for those individuals, we have
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a little bit more control over what we're doing,
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where we're going. Did we make a plan of the
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things we wanted to do in this lifetime? Yes.
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It just means that we are more likely to veer
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so far off left field, off away from the plan,
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the original plan. And we do tend to spend more
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time searching, trying to find where it is that
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we're going. And so we do have at least once
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a month, there's an identity crisis. Who am I?
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What am I doing with my life? Where am I going?
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So that's mine. That's on my chart. That's you.
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This is explaining a lot. That's both of us because
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neither one of us has a defined identity. So
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we conform and we adapt to the people that we're
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around. And so people see that in my chart and
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they're like, oh, you're a Gemini, you're two
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-faced, blah, blah, blah. No, I'm matching your
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energy. Whatever energy you are putting out,
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I automatically pick up. There's just a minute
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ago that... I was chatting with one of my best
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friends and I hadn't seen her for a minute and
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someone commented and they're like, oh my gosh,
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are you related? And I'm like, no, she's been
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my best friend since we were like babies. And
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they're like, but your mannerisms are so, and
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I'm like, well, yes, but we've been friends for
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so long. And I also will pick up on other people's
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mannerisms when I'm in conversations with them.
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Like if someone talks more with their hands,
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I will talk more with my hands. And that also
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goes with the throat chakra, which is the defining
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feature of a manifestor is they have consistent
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energy in their throat connected to a motor.
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So you have it connected from your throat down
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to the emotional solar plexus. Yeah, right there.
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And so you are here to communicate about how
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you feel. Right. That is I feel a lot. I feel
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like it's very, very Pisces, very Pisces energy.
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It's not super appreciated by some of the family
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members that are like there. You're not everyone's
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cup. Like you're not everybody's shot of whiskey
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and that's fine. Yeah. So that that emotional
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solar plexus is a motor. So you have your own
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consistent voice. But that is also why you can
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say hi to somebody in the grocery store and they
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tell you their whole life story. yeah because
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they don't have a defined identity i don't have
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a defined identity which is why i talk so much
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when we're at the store and i'm like over here
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and then i'm over here like everybody yeah yeah
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well and when i first get there especially i'm
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watch me watch me later watch me because as soon
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as i get around if if i haven't come within six
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feet of sage yet I, who's my coworker at The
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Conjuring Tree, if I haven't come into contact
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with him yet, I'm chill, I'm calm, I'm focused.
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And then I get around him and I pick up his manifesting
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generator energy and he is a generator on speed
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and he's like, and that's why I'm like, I can't
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sit still. I need to get all the things done.
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And that's a big part of why Tuesdays at the
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end of the day, you see me laying on the floor.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm usually at the Conjuring Tree
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on Tuesdays and this is where I met Esther. Well,
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yeah, it is where I met Esther. And Sage is our
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co -worker. He's going to be on our podcast in
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a future episode. So stay tuned for that. That's
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on the... On the schedule. He's such a doll.
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I mean, but our conversations on Tuesdays, it's
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just like, oh, this should be a podcast. We're
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just sitting here chatting about design and anthropology
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and all these different things. And I'm like,
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we need to talk about it. So, yeah, that's what
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brought us here today. But I seem to just ping,
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ping, ping all over the store. I'm kind of sitting
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there like, I'll just kind of sit here and get
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some work done and wait for a reading. And that's
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fine. Nope. Not when we're there. Well, and like
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the owners of the store have commented like,
00:25:37.019 --> 00:25:39.180
how do you guys get stuff done? You're spending
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so much time talking. And I'm like, yeah, we
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do. And then we get to work. And then we come
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back and talk. It does get done. It's very efficient.
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I mean, I don't have a complaint at all, but
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it's like he was messaging me earlier. It's jazzed
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up. It feels. Yes. The energy feels like, whew.
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It's fun. Tuesdays are my favorite day of the
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week. to work. I love being with all of the co
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-workers. They're all great. But there is something
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very different about Tuesdays working with Sage.
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It's a fun place to be. So stop by on Tuesday.
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Come hang out with us if you're around. You roll
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in at 1. You roll in at 1 o 'clock. I roll in
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at 2. Sage is there all day. But then you go
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home at 6 and Sage and I are there until we close.
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And yeah, it's it's always a good time. He was
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messaging me earlier before we got started with
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all this. And he's like, hey, it's September
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1st. Can can we can we put up witch hats and
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and spider webs? Yeah. I'm ready. The weather
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outside just needs to catch up to the fall vibe.
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My windows were open most of the morning this
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morning, like wide open, letting that gorgeous
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breeze. It is the first of the month. So I always
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recommend for people to go through and cleanse
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their home on the first of the month. Redo, reset
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wards, whatever it is that you happen to do.
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But yeah, I just and then I just left the windows
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open because I'm like, this is beautiful. This
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is amazing. Let that energy flow. Let it flow.
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So you are not a manifester. No. You are not
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a manifesting generator. You're not a generator.
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So tell us about this other type. I'm a very
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different creature. I'm an alien. Legit. Like,
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according to Ra Aruhu, projectors did not exist
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on Earth because we only had seven chakras at
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the time. And so it was not possible for a projector
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to exist. And then in the late 1700s, when we
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discovered the planet Uranus, our chakra system
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evolved and created the nine chakra center system
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that we have now in the human design system.
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So that's what you're looking at there. So with
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that evolution, it changed the role of the chakras
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a little bit. And if you are an energy practitioner,
00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:12.500
you work Reiki, anything like that. understanding
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and like looking into the system and adjusting
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things a little bit differently like if you notice
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.319
that someone's got something going on in the
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.759
solar plexus area but it's more to one side or
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.559
the other you're probably working because that's
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one of the chakras that split and evolved is
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the solar plexus and it created the emotional
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solar plexus and the spleen or splenic center
00:28:35.220 --> 00:28:39.940
which is all about instinct intuition Body awareness,
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.119
fear, that kind of stuff. It's like the gut feeling
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.000
kind of thing that people talk about. Your kitty
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.759
whiskers. Yeah. Okay. And then the emotional
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.079
solar plexus is the seat of emotions, is where
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:54.299
emotions are generated for people who are emotional.
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.700
Emotionally defined. There we go. That's the
00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:02.319
word I was looking for. And then the heart chakra
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.400
also split into two, and that's where we get
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.619
the identity center and the will center. And
00:29:07.619 --> 00:29:10.220
so identity is about identity, direction, and
00:29:10.220 --> 00:29:12.940
love. And the will center is about willpower,
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.819
ego, and courage. That's why we are go with the
00:29:16.819 --> 00:29:18.579
flow people. We don't have a defined will. We
00:29:18.579 --> 00:29:20.759
are here to just be chill and not be headstrong
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:25.390
and not like, yeah. I think I might've been fighting
00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:29.710
that for the first half of my life. I think that's
00:29:29.710 --> 00:29:32.609
why things didn't click. Like didn't, I kept
00:29:32.609 --> 00:29:35.029
being told that same message constantly with
00:29:35.029 --> 00:29:37.849
one thing or another, even before human design,
00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:39.650
just one thing or another. The message is always,
00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:42.789
you gotta chill. You gotta go through, go with
00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:44.950
the flow. You cannot force things. You cannot
00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.430
make it happen. You cannot run yourself ragged,
00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:49.289
making it happen. It's not going to happen that
00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.009
way. I don't know how many times I have to learn
00:29:51.009 --> 00:29:53.509
that lesson before it gets. Beaten into my head.
00:29:53.529 --> 00:29:55.210
Eventually, it'll get there. You'll get there.
00:29:55.269 --> 00:29:59.029
You'll get there. I've been doing a lot more
00:29:59.029 --> 00:30:03.390
home cleansing sessions lately, and I have really
00:30:03.390 --> 00:30:06.809
enjoyed it. Like, I love houses anyway. I just
00:30:06.809 --> 00:30:09.170
love houses. I would have been a real estate
00:30:09.170 --> 00:30:12.250
agent, but I hate paperwork and sales and all
00:30:12.250 --> 00:30:15.170
the other things. But I love houses. So, yeah,
00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:19.309
getting to do an energy cleansing house is...
00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:22.079
Like my favorite thing now. I watched a TikTok
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.720
of you doing that. Yeah. Going around some cute
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.240
little house. Yeah. I've had real estate agents
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.680
that are having me do, I call it a listing reset.
00:30:32.740 --> 00:30:36.160
Yeah. It's like if you got a house on the market,
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.539
it's just not moving. It's just. My best friend
00:30:39.539 --> 00:30:41.220
that I was just talking about a minute ago, she's
00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:44.299
a real estate agent. She's with Keller Williams.
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.579
I might give her your information. I've been
00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:48.460
working with them. Yeah. A couple people from
00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:50.619
there. Yeah. Okay. She's a little bit woo woo.
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.359
Okay. Perfect. All right. I need to get her number.
00:30:53.940 --> 00:31:00.180
Yes. Later today. Remind me. So back on track.
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.299
Yes. I'm what is known as a projector. Yeah.
00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:06.200
Projectors are called projectors because our
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.519
aura projects into people, gets all up in their
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:10.859
business so that we can know them and see them
00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:13.059
on another level that they can't even see themselves.
00:31:13.420 --> 00:31:16.380
And something that I had the epiphany with a
00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:21.460
little while ago is. I personally will see someone's
00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:24.779
highest potential of what they could be. And
00:31:24.779 --> 00:31:26.839
I unfortunately make the assumption that that
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:31.339
is who they are now. There are moments that they
00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:34.500
probably are that version of themselves, but
00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:36.400
there's also a lot of moments where they're not
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.759
that version. And so I get just crushed because.
00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:43.750
The illusion is shattered of who I thought this
00:31:43.750 --> 00:31:46.809
person was when really I was seeing them clearly.
00:31:46.890 --> 00:31:50.349
It was just more potential rather than who they
00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:53.009
are able to be. Like not everybody is able to
00:31:53.009 --> 00:31:55.589
be their potential 100 % of the time. And so
00:31:55.589 --> 00:31:57.549
that's also a lesson for me to be like, hey,
00:31:57.630 --> 00:32:04.750
chill. We're here to be human. So projectors
00:32:04.750 --> 00:32:07.529
have come onto the scene to meet with the individual,
00:32:07.670 --> 00:32:12.880
to help the individual. to manage their energy,
00:32:13.099 --> 00:32:17.380
manage themselves to see themselves, to work
00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:20.579
quality control. We meet with people to show
00:32:20.579 --> 00:32:22.039
them where things aren't working, where things
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:28.259
can improve and develop. And like my mother was
00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:30.079
a teacher. She was an English teacher and she
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:36.880
is a projector. And she is a grammar. crazy lady.
00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:39.099
Like, I don't want to use the N word, you know,
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.599
that a lot of people want to call it. But she
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.019
would stickler for grammar. Yes. Yes. And so
00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:49.200
my spelling is atrocious because spite, right?
00:32:49.259 --> 00:32:52.339
You have to spite your mother. Yeah. Anyway,
00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:55.779
and so that was her kind of wheelhouse was to
00:32:55.779 --> 00:33:00.559
help people refine their communication, their
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.920
language, their, right, their minds, like all
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.150
of that kind of stuff. For me, it happens to
00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:10.589
be human design and spiritual pursuits. That
00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:13.769
is my hyperfixation and that is where I am here
00:33:13.769 --> 00:33:16.630
to help other people. So projectors are here
00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:18.650
to share their wisdom. They're not here to be
00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:20.869
worker bees. That's what the generators and the
00:33:20.869 --> 00:33:23.190
manifesting generators are for. They have the
00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:27.109
motor in that sacral chakra to sustain that worker
00:33:27.109 --> 00:33:30.589
bee energy. Projectors are here to teach and
00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:34.950
to guide. And very similarly to manifestors,
00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:38.980
We don't make our own energy. We're reliant on
00:33:38.980 --> 00:33:42.619
the energy of those around us. And so if I am
00:33:42.619 --> 00:33:46.279
surrounded by people who are not leaning into
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.460
what lights them up, they're not living in their
00:33:49.460 --> 00:33:54.099
authenticity, I'm exhausted. I'm drained. I'm
00:33:54.099 --> 00:33:59.180
burned out. I'm having a hard time. And so it's
00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:02.829
on. It's compulsory for me to want to help people
00:34:02.829 --> 00:34:05.529
improve. But not everybody can hear a projector.
00:34:05.950 --> 00:34:08.150
That's the big thing. Everybody can hear a manifestor.
00:34:08.150 --> 00:34:11.230
Whether they like what they heard or not is different.
00:34:11.929 --> 00:34:13.489
But you're going to hear a manifestor. We've
00:34:13.489 --> 00:34:16.150
got to team up. You have no choice. What was
00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:19.449
that? We've got to team up so I can be your voice
00:34:19.449 --> 00:34:24.559
and I can be like, Esther said. Yes. but for
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.679
the people who do hear me. And so that's where
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.480
the strategy comes in. So the manifestor strategy
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.719
is to inform. The generator strategy is to respond
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.699
to life as it comes to them. My strategy is to
00:34:35.699 --> 00:34:38.539
wait for an invitation before I open my big fat
00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:42.460
mouth, to wait for someone to see me before I
00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:45.139
try to share my wisdom. And for you projectors
00:34:45.139 --> 00:34:48.239
out there, because I can't tell you how many
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.420
times I've been sitting, listening to someone
00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.340
talk about their problem, talk about their issue.
00:34:53.190 --> 00:34:56.030
And I know, I know the exact thing they need
00:34:56.030 --> 00:35:00.150
to do that's going to fix this. But I don't know
00:35:00.150 --> 00:35:02.530
that they can hear me. And so great way to get
00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:05.110
an invitation is to test the waters, to say,
00:35:05.150 --> 00:35:07.909
I have an idea. I had a thought. Do you want
00:35:07.909 --> 00:35:11.309
to hear it? I have an opinion. Do you want to
00:35:11.309 --> 00:35:13.590
hear it? Had an idea. Do you want to hear it?
00:35:14.230 --> 00:35:19.349
The hard part is when they say no. Yes. And then
00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:21.900
we're just like. And you just have to deal and
00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:26.000
you just have to go slink off to the side. It's
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.539
hard. I'm just here to listen. It's fine. I mean,
00:35:29.539 --> 00:35:31.260
I think that's good advice for just about anybody.
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.260
And as a manifester, I... I could probably see
00:35:35.260 --> 00:35:37.219
myself as more of a bulldozer than I should be.
00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:39.139
Like just kind of going in there and being like,
00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:40.940
I'm going to get in there and fix it. I'm going
00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:42.559
to get in there and do all the things I need
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.780
to do. I just get in there and do my thing. But
00:35:44.780 --> 00:35:47.000
the thing is, is yeah, you're a four, six, your
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:48.760
profile numbers, how you learn and how you get
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.719
shit done. Yes. Let's talk about profile numbers.
00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:55.920
Is that your system? No, that's Jenna Zoe. Oh,
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.280
okay. Jenna Zoe. I love archetypes. Yes. It's
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.119
easy to understand. So profile numbers, tell
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.369
us about this. So yeah, so profile numbers is
00:36:04.369 --> 00:36:07.489
how you learn, how you get things done. It's
00:36:07.489 --> 00:36:09.630
a combination of the numbers one through six,
00:36:09.690 --> 00:36:14.269
and there's 12 altogether. And they're in a very
00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:17.210
specific way. The math is weird. I don't, we
00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:20.530
don't have time to go into the math. But each
00:36:20.530 --> 00:36:22.949
of the combination of the profile numbers, Jenna
00:36:22.949 --> 00:36:25.150
Zoe, who's the other name that I was talking
00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:28.070
about, who's big into human design. She made
00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:30.010
an Instagram post years and years and years ago
00:36:30.010 --> 00:36:33.039
that my brain memorized. All of it where she
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.380
gave Disney archetypes to all of the profile
00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:39.360
numbers, because that is how we how a lot of
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.119
people learn is they associate one thing with
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.320
another thing and they create this connection
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.599
in their brain that then helps them retain that
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.320
information. And that was what it was for me.
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.199
I'm a Disney nerd. I love Disney. Yeah, that
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.639
helps me a lot. I grew up on it. Yeah. So the
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.480
four six, the Disney archetype of it is Snow
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:04.539
White. And I'm trying to find archetypes that
00:37:04.539 --> 00:37:07.400
are not Disney because not everybody loves Disney.
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.960
Yeah. Well, and I do. I love Disney. I love the
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:11.500
princesses. But when you told me Snow White,
00:37:11.539 --> 00:37:15.039
I was like, oh, really? Right. I'm like, she's
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.119
the worst one. No, no. She's I mean, she's she's
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.000
a child. Right. She's just a little bit. A little
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.960
14 year old. Yeah. So the reason why that archetype
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.579
is chosen for the four six is because. She's
00:37:30.579 --> 00:37:33.380
the main character. The movie is named after
00:37:33.380 --> 00:37:39.380
her. What is she doing the entire movie? She's
00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:44.820
taking care of everybody else. So the 12 profound
00:37:44.820 --> 00:37:46.760
numbers are grouped into three different categories.
00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:50.889
And there are personal karma is one category
00:37:50.889 --> 00:37:52.690
where people are here for themselves. They're
00:37:52.690 --> 00:37:54.650
here creating their karma. They're here for their
00:37:54.650 --> 00:37:58.010
own experiences, their own stuff, right? And
00:37:58.010 --> 00:38:00.269
then you have transpersonal who are here for
00:38:00.269 --> 00:38:01.630
other people. They're here cleaning up their
00:38:01.630 --> 00:38:05.369
karma. They're here healing a lot of stuff, right?
00:38:05.829 --> 00:38:08.610
And they're here for others, right? It's transpersonal.
00:38:08.769 --> 00:38:11.610
And then you have juxtapositions who kind of
00:38:11.610 --> 00:38:15.150
float somewhere in between and they help. Personal
00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:17.010
karma people see other people's perspectives.
00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:20.110
They help transpersonal karma people see themselves.
00:38:22.610 --> 00:38:26.309
So the four, six is the very last in the series
00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:30.010
of lifetimes of personal karma. So you are here
00:38:30.010 --> 00:38:33.670
for yourself. You are here for you. You are here
00:38:33.670 --> 00:38:37.750
for your soul's experiences and lessons and journeys.
00:38:38.389 --> 00:38:43.050
But you are two transpersonal numbers. So numbers
00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:45.800
one through three, our personal karma. Four,
00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:49.099
five, and six, our transpersonal karma. So it's
00:38:49.099 --> 00:38:53.699
this weird space where you're like, no, but I'm
00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:55.900
here for other people. No, you're here for you.
00:38:56.260 --> 00:38:58.440
So that's where Snow White comes in of like,
00:38:58.539 --> 00:39:01.320
she's the main character. It's about her. The
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.280
story is about her. But what is her focus the
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.639
entire movie? Taking care of other people. Doing
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.900
for other people. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And then
00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:40.619
I guess it's her happily ever after, right? The
00:39:40.619 --> 00:39:43.500
bond between her and the youngest one. And he
00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:47.840
is 11, almost 12 years old, and she still calls
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.719
him the toddler. She's not a toddler. No, she's
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.639
babied him. And she takes care of him and she
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.300
does everything for him. And she just had to
00:39:56.300 --> 00:40:00.079
have a surgery a little bit ago. And guess what
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.519
this little 11 -year -old was doing the whole
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.960
time? He was helping her, taking care of her.
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.199
Stepping out mom. That's so hopeful to hear.
00:40:08.860 --> 00:40:13.469
Yeah. As a mom of three boys. Yeah. Yeah. I know.
00:40:13.530 --> 00:40:18.110
I'm not. I don't speak boy. Me neither. But,
00:40:18.230 --> 00:40:21.429
you know, here we are. When people sit down in
00:40:21.429 --> 00:40:24.550
a reading with me, a lot of times they're like,
00:40:24.650 --> 00:40:28.150
I want to know my future. I want to know. I'm
00:40:28.150 --> 00:40:30.070
going to tell you guys right now, if you are
00:40:30.070 --> 00:40:32.469
ever going to get a reading asking if the dumb
00:40:32.469 --> 00:40:39.659
boy is the one, no. The answer is automatically
00:40:39.659 --> 00:40:43.039
no. If you are getting a reading over whether
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.199
or not you should stay with this person, leave.
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.960
Right? That's it. Yeah. I don't know if anybody's
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.000
been on TikTok lately, but I do some TikTok live
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.400
readings once in a while and I just grab a deck
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.780
and I sit here in my cave and I'm like, let's
00:40:54.780 --> 00:40:57.380
do this. Pop in with a question. We'll just do
00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:02.579
one card, whatever. The questions I get, is he
00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:06.619
coming back? Is he my true love? Or am I pregnant?
00:41:06.969 --> 00:41:10.289
Those are the things. Oh, my gosh. I mean, in
00:41:10.289 --> 00:41:13.309
people's defense, I struggled with infertility
00:41:13.309 --> 00:41:15.690
for seven years. I get that question. I know.
00:41:15.989 --> 00:41:18.809
I'm there. I feel for them. Same infertility
00:41:18.809 --> 00:41:22.070
over here. I'm like, I feel you. I feel for you.
00:41:22.090 --> 00:41:23.670
And asking this question, I know what you're
00:41:23.670 --> 00:41:28.489
looking for. But see a doctor. Don't ask a tarot
00:41:28.489 --> 00:41:33.210
reader if you're pregnant. Yeah. Pianistic. Wait
00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:39.170
a week. Yeah. But with human design, it's just
00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:42.130
helping you understand you. And there are fun
00:41:42.130 --> 00:41:44.369
things that human design can tell you, which
00:41:44.369 --> 00:41:46.650
is one of the things that I was looking up when
00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:48.170
we first got started because I'm like, oh, I
00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:50.690
can't remember because I saw your coffee mug.
00:41:51.369 --> 00:41:55.050
Oh, yeah. And so one of the things that it tells
00:41:55.050 --> 00:41:56.789
you is your food type, and that is a beautiful
00:41:56.789 --> 00:42:00.289
mug. Right. So your food type is not a diet.
00:42:00.769 --> 00:42:03.750
It's a way that your body processes food as well
00:42:03.750 --> 00:42:08.400
as information. Mm -hmm. So yours is thirst cold.
00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:15.619
So we should be swapping drinks. Yeah. Because
00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:18.539
you run hot. Yeah. I almost always wait till
00:42:18.539 --> 00:42:20.900
my coffee's cold before I even start drinking
00:42:20.900 --> 00:42:24.920
it. Just start drinking iced coffee. So I started,
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.099
I actually did it this morning. I brew a pot
00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.539
of coffee at the beginning of the week and I
00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:33.440
put it in a carafe container in my fridge and
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.940
then I combine it with protein milk. In the morning,
00:42:35.980 --> 00:42:38.760
and that's sometimes my breakfast. There's protein
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.960
in it, so it counts as breakfast. Right. That
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.400
would work for me so good. And you told me that
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.519
one of the classes, and you were like, it's more
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.380
important that you're hydrated, which I always
00:42:48.380 --> 00:42:51.480
struggle with staying hydrated. But when I really
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.820
think about it, I could drink my meals. I could
00:42:54.820 --> 00:42:58.840
drink a cold smoothie or whatever, and I could
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.880
probably live on that. I'd be pretty happy. My
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.380
food type is girl dinner. It literally is appetite
00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:09.800
alternating. And so appetite, like we don't want
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.420
to get too full. We don't want to be too empty.
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.420
We just like snack all day long. And it's, you
00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:18.739
know, a little bit of cheese, little crackers,
00:43:18.900 --> 00:43:20.519
little nuts, little fruit, little something.
00:43:20.699 --> 00:43:23.480
So if you come into the conjuring tree and you're
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.340
observing me, I probably have a snack somewhere
00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:30.139
hidden or in my pockets or in my hands. I'm just,
00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:32.239
I'm a toddler and I snack all day long. Just
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.119
a little nibble, something. Yeah. And if I actually
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.280
digestion is because you brought it up because
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.440
that's really interesting to think about. It's
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.239
not just digesting food or like how you eat your
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.619
food. But I remember seeing this cool study that
00:43:46.619 --> 00:43:49.420
they did with rabbits where depending on what
00:43:49.420 --> 00:43:52.719
the rabbits were surrounded with, they digested
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.360
their food better or they digested the nutrients
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.820
of the food better. So like if they were eating
00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:03.739
like kind of. borderline toxic food and i don't
00:44:03.739 --> 00:44:05.559
know why the scientists were feeding this to
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.880
bunnies it's a whole ethical issue but anyway
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.820
they were giving both groups of bunnies kind
00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:14.920
of not great food not very nutritious yeah and
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:19.179
but one group they had noticed that that didn't
00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:22.400
affect them at all health -wise that they that
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:26.179
one group was doing just as well as if they had
00:44:26.179 --> 00:44:28.659
been eating healthy food and the other group
00:44:28.659 --> 00:44:31.889
was deteriorating in health like they were doing
00:44:31.889 --> 00:44:33.909
worse and worse they were like what's the difference
00:44:33.909 --> 00:44:35.670
what's been what's been going on differently
00:44:35.670 --> 00:44:38.030
for these two groups and they they found out
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:42.389
kind of on accident that um that when the other
00:44:42.389 --> 00:44:45.769
group was fed they were fed by a trainer or a
00:44:45.769 --> 00:44:50.789
i don't know person who was petting them and
00:44:50.789 --> 00:44:53.090
talking lovingly to them while they were eating
00:44:53.929 --> 00:44:55.949
And that was the only difference. It's just like
00:44:55.949 --> 00:44:58.289
how your environment and like how you digest
00:44:58.289 --> 00:45:02.550
things and how you, which by the way, there's
00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:05.349
also environment on the chart as well. Yes, is
00:45:05.349 --> 00:45:08.969
your scene, which like you and I both have similar,
00:45:09.050 --> 00:45:12.010
but we have one small difference in it. We are
00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:15.090
both caves. We both need a cave. So an enclosed
00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:19.170
space where we can retreat to away from the energy
00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:23.139
of the collective. And oftentimes it ends up
00:45:23.139 --> 00:45:26.099
being a basement. My mother -in -law kicked me
00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:27.880
out of my basement. She now lives down there
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:32.320
and I live on the top floor. That's where my
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.719
office is now. But it is a back corner bedroom,
00:45:35.980 --> 00:45:39.559
like off to the side of everything. And we do
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.300
better if we have our back to a wall where we
00:45:42.300 --> 00:45:47.619
can see the entrance and exits easily. As children.
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.219
I've noticed that a lot of caves, kids will climb
00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:54.519
under things or burrow or want to be in like
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.059
tents or like forts are a big thing. Yeah, closed,
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.900
enclosed spaces. We also like to be squished.
00:46:03.539 --> 00:46:06.420
I don't know if this was you as well. Like I,
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.760
my sisters would do it like they thought they
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:10.420
were punishing me or torturing me or whatever,
00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:12.360
but I'd be like laying on my bed and they would
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.500
come and lay on top of me and I'd be like, yes.
00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:17.929
And they're like thinking they're they're squishing
00:46:17.929 --> 00:46:19.610
the crap out of me. And I'm just like, this feels
00:46:19.610 --> 00:46:22.510
great. Thank you. Great. Yeah. Which before you
00:46:22.510 --> 00:46:25.349
even told me that or even I think before I even
00:46:25.349 --> 00:46:28.230
looked at human design or what it was, I had
00:46:28.230 --> 00:46:31.750
already built this cave. This is something that
00:46:31.750 --> 00:46:33.630
was in my house when we bought the house. And
00:46:33.630 --> 00:46:35.670
I probably bought the house because I loved this
00:46:35.670 --> 00:46:38.250
space. Yeah. There's little caves. There's also
00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:40.969
like a little tree fort in the living room for
00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:44.070
the kids with a ladder. And it was spaces that
00:46:44.070 --> 00:46:45.650
I just loved. I fell in love with and was like,
00:46:45.730 --> 00:46:48.829
that would be so fun. But I thought this was
00:46:48.829 --> 00:46:50.329
going to be for the kids. I thought the kids
00:46:50.329 --> 00:46:52.550
would love it. And then I took over this room
00:46:52.550 --> 00:46:56.730
and turned it into an altar and then turned it
00:46:56.730 --> 00:46:59.909
into a meditation space. And then I started recording
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:02.769
the podcast here. And I was like, I'm recording
00:47:02.769 --> 00:47:05.550
from the cave. It's my favorite thing. So when
00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:09.480
caves was brought up, I was like, Yep. There
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.679
it is. Yeah. And this is the thing that I love
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.179
about human design. It's not telling you anything
00:47:15.179 --> 00:47:17.800
you don't already know. It's just validating
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.940
what you've always felt. So yeah, as a projector,
00:47:22.099 --> 00:47:24.059
I was always trying to be a generator. I was
00:47:24.059 --> 00:47:27.699
trying to keep up with everybody. And I put an
00:47:27.699 --> 00:47:32.559
extra 200 pounds of weight on my body in that
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.639
effort. And part of that was also I wasn't eating
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.860
according. to my human design food type. I was
00:47:38.860 --> 00:47:40.679
eating, I was trying to sit down and eat these
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.880
massive portions of food because that's what
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.179
all of the generators around me were doing. Because
00:47:47.179 --> 00:47:49.739
that's what their bodies needed to properly fuel
00:47:49.739 --> 00:47:53.460
them where I didn't, I don't need that much.
00:47:53.579 --> 00:47:56.500
And anytime that I do, like I've had gut issues
00:47:56.500 --> 00:48:00.619
the last few days because I was trying to, I
00:48:00.619 --> 00:48:03.199
got into my old patterns and I had to remind
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.420
myself, no, no, no, we can't eat like that anymore.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:11.840
We need to – anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So we have differences.
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:17.920
Yeah. It's just a fantastic way to get clarity
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.960
about yourself if you were feeling lost. I mean
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.760
like the reading that we did and I didn't come
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.719
to you for like future telling or anything like
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.059
that. But I think it was perfect for what I needed
00:48:27.059 --> 00:48:31.699
because I was just feeling like as a manifester
00:48:31.699 --> 00:48:35.329
or as – All of these different parts of my human
00:48:35.329 --> 00:48:38.630
design chart. What would you recommend that I
00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:42.750
do? Like how, what do I put my focus on and what
00:48:42.750 --> 00:48:44.869
do I, and I think it was the emotional authority
00:48:44.869 --> 00:48:50.590
actually that was the most, it can be people
00:48:50.590 --> 00:48:54.949
pleasing. Yeah. I went to everybody that I work
00:48:54.949 --> 00:48:59.230
with. I went to everybody I work with after our
00:48:59.230 --> 00:49:03.380
reading and I said, first of all, I'm, So sorry
00:49:03.380 --> 00:49:06.820
if I've ever seemed really flaky or if I've ever
00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:10.219
been like so excited about a thing that we talked
00:49:10.219 --> 00:49:12.079
about and then later was like, well, wait a minute.
00:49:12.139 --> 00:49:14.820
I'm not sure. I said, because now I know why.
00:49:14.980 --> 00:49:17.940
I'm going to tell you why I do that. And I'm
00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:20.739
going to say from moving forward, let's come
00:49:20.739 --> 00:49:23.739
up with ideas together. And then I'll step back
00:49:23.739 --> 00:49:26.719
and just take a couple of days to think it over.
00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:29.559
Don't let me say yes in the moment. I won't.
00:49:29.820 --> 00:49:32.780
Don't let me do that anymore. Exactly. It was
00:49:32.780 --> 00:49:38.269
so helpful. Yeah. I had a gal, another colleague
00:49:38.269 --> 00:49:40.929
of mine, reach out a couple weeks ago. And she
00:49:40.929 --> 00:49:44.789
had gathered myself and a few other individuals
00:49:44.789 --> 00:49:47.809
that I've worked with over the years. And she
00:49:47.809 --> 00:49:50.090
had this really brilliant, amazing idea. And
00:49:50.090 --> 00:49:55.030
in the moment, I can feel every single person
00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:57.190
like, yes, let's fucking do this. Let's go. Like,
00:49:57.190 --> 00:50:00.230
sorry if I swore. I'm not. Anyway. But like,
00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:03.889
let's go. Let's do this. And so because I know.
00:50:04.749 --> 00:50:07.349
If you've met me for longer than five minutes,
00:50:07.449 --> 00:50:10.250
I have your chart. I know what your chart looks
00:50:10.250 --> 00:50:13.230
like. I know your authority. I know your aura
00:50:13.230 --> 00:50:15.730
type. I know that information about you. And
00:50:15.730 --> 00:50:17.710
so I know every single person on this panel.
00:50:18.090 --> 00:50:21.309
I'm like, I know half of these people have emotional
00:50:21.309 --> 00:50:23.670
authority. And so I said, all right, pump the
00:50:23.670 --> 00:50:29.289
brakes for a second. We all in this moment, everyone
00:50:29.289 --> 00:50:31.650
wants to be like, yes, let's do this. Let's go.
00:50:31.750 --> 00:50:35.440
And they're like, yeah. And I'm like. Have I
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:42.500
taught you nothing? Come on. Now let's go think
00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:45.900
it over. Yeah. So I champion for everybody to
00:50:45.900 --> 00:50:49.460
pause, take a beat, take a week. We're meeting
00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:52.920
next week. Yes. I'm sorry. I had to be like,
00:50:52.940 --> 00:50:54.860
am I supposed to be on that call right now? No,
00:50:54.980 --> 00:51:00.559
we're good. Because that is also my life. Anyway,
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.179
so I. Had everybody pause and be like, we're
00:51:03.179 --> 00:51:04.579
going to take a beat. We're going to fill this
00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:05.940
out. And two people have already dropped out
00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:07.840
because they're like, you know what? I don't
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.840
have the spoons. I don't have the energy. I don't
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.320
have the time and space in my life to commit
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.360
to this thing. And will the thing still work
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:19.940
without them? Yes. But I would rather know it
00:51:19.940 --> 00:51:22.199
now before everything gets started rather than
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.300
six months from now when they're like, I'm burned
00:51:25.300 --> 00:51:27.980
out. I'm exhausted. I'm so not ready. Yeah, I'm
00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:31.710
not doing this. And it's not that it's not a
00:51:31.710 --> 00:51:35.210
great, like the enthusiasm I feel is real for
00:51:35.210 --> 00:51:37.670
the idea, right? It's like, I don't want you
00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:39.590
to think I don't like it or don't want to do
00:51:39.590 --> 00:51:43.389
it, but I need to know if I can do it. If it's
00:51:43.389 --> 00:51:45.130
for me. And that's the thing is in the moment
00:51:45.130 --> 00:51:48.190
we are picking up their energy and how they feel
00:51:48.190 --> 00:51:51.929
about the thing. And we want to. answer. And
00:51:51.929 --> 00:51:53.550
that's where we need to get out of their energy.
00:51:53.630 --> 00:51:56.329
And it takes about two hours for someone else's
00:51:56.329 --> 00:51:58.489
energy to completely dissipate from our energy,
00:51:58.610 --> 00:52:01.230
which is why you can go to a motivational speaker
00:52:01.230 --> 00:52:02.809
and be like, yes, I'm going to do these things.
00:52:02.869 --> 00:52:04.389
I'm going to change all this stuff. And then
00:52:04.389 --> 00:52:06.650
you leave and you're like, nope, not going to
00:52:06.650 --> 00:52:12.269
happen. Real great. Yeah. Which is why, especially
00:52:12.269 --> 00:52:14.590
if you have emotional authority, take a beat,
00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:18.309
take some time, sleep on it minimum for the big
00:52:18.309 --> 00:52:21.360
stuff. If it's what's for lunch, Just eat what
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.519
everybody else wants. It's fine. Yeah. And now
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.780
it's almost like a language we speak in meetings
00:52:28.780 --> 00:52:31.960
that I'm in, which I surround myself with people
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.019
that are a little bit more woo -woo anyway. So
00:52:34.019 --> 00:52:36.159
they would understand and speak the language
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.239
a little bit. But when I'm working with a lovely
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.079
woman that's helping me with my website and she's
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.099
been helping me kind of get some of the technology
00:52:45.099 --> 00:52:49.230
stuff in my work done. And she'll come up with
00:52:49.230 --> 00:52:51.550
all these ideas on what she thinks that it should
00:52:51.550 --> 00:52:53.550
have or, oh, I'm going to include this and I'm
00:52:53.550 --> 00:52:56.210
going to do that. And now she goes, so I have
00:52:56.210 --> 00:52:58.969
these ideas. Here are my ideas. Now I want you
00:52:58.969 --> 00:53:00.889
to take a week and see what you think. And then
00:53:00.889 --> 00:53:03.070
next week we'll see if you want to do it. Right.
00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:06.210
And I'm like, thank you. Don't get me all excited
00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:09.449
and then be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then
00:53:09.449 --> 00:53:12.670
three days later, I'm like, hold on. Don't put
00:53:12.670 --> 00:53:14.710
any more work into that. I'm not sure about it.
00:53:14.789 --> 00:53:18.510
I'm now feeling a little not sure. And another
00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:20.369
part of human design that's absolutely amazing
00:53:20.369 --> 00:53:24.610
is parenting with human design. You have a cheat
00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:30.389
sheet for your kid. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Because
00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:32.489
I'm dealing with that with my daughter with that
00:53:32.489 --> 00:53:34.969
because she wants to commit to all of these groups
00:53:34.969 --> 00:53:37.309
and events. And like she's on a field trip right
00:53:37.309 --> 00:53:40.769
now with in middle school. She's part of Hope
00:53:40.769 --> 00:53:44.269
Team. And I was like, this is this is a big.
00:53:44.590 --> 00:53:46.889
deal in your school like i need you she's like
00:53:46.889 --> 00:53:50.170
no i got this i got this i'm like yeah or she'll
00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:51.969
be like me eventually at some point she'll be
00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:53.610
crying on the bathroom floor and going it's too
00:53:53.610 --> 00:53:56.869
much it's too much i can't do it but yeah it's
00:53:56.869 --> 00:54:00.289
good to know she has she has the the she has
00:54:00.289 --> 00:54:03.909
the added benefit of the generator sacral as
00:54:03.909 --> 00:54:08.469
her secondary authority so she can get out of
00:54:08.469 --> 00:54:12.539
the energy of the requester tune into that sacral.
00:54:12.619 --> 00:54:15.380
And if that's still a hell yes, she's good to
00:54:15.380 --> 00:54:17.719
go. And that's how it's been with this. But yeah,
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.079
any big thing that she's committing her energy
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.199
to, we have taught her you need to really pause
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:28.139
and think about it. She's been in a musical production
00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:31.039
that's going to be wrapping up at the end of
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.599
this week. And it came out of left field of her
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.340
wanting to do that. I was like, oh, my jeans
00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:39.579
did get in there somewhere because she looks
00:54:39.579 --> 00:54:42.389
just like my husband. And I was a musical theater
00:54:42.389 --> 00:54:45.510
kid. And so that she wanted to do that. I was
00:54:45.510 --> 00:54:48.829
like, but I made her pause and think about it
00:54:48.829 --> 00:54:50.989
because it's a huge commitment. And there have
00:54:50.989 --> 00:54:53.030
been many times that she in the moment is like,
00:54:53.090 --> 00:54:54.369
yes, I want to do this thing. And I'm like, and
00:54:54.369 --> 00:54:57.010
then we say, okay, do your life, your choices,
00:54:57.050 --> 00:55:02.150
your consequences. And then she does the whole
00:55:02.150 --> 00:55:03.530
crying on the bathroom floor. I don't want to
00:55:03.530 --> 00:55:06.190
do the thing. I don't want to go there. You committed
00:55:06.190 --> 00:55:08.110
your energy. So now you have to finish it. So
00:55:08.110 --> 00:55:11.929
teaching her to be. be more selective with what
00:55:11.929 --> 00:55:14.389
she's committing her energy to is is our goal
00:55:14.389 --> 00:55:17.429
from lived experience how amazing would it have
00:55:17.429 --> 00:55:20.469
been for me to have that uh insight into myself
00:55:20.469 --> 00:55:23.949
from a earlier age but um you know you've talked
00:55:23.949 --> 00:55:26.489
about how as we come into an older age as we
00:55:26.489 --> 00:55:29.289
come into like our 30s we start to become like
00:55:29.289 --> 00:55:31.889
naturally it starts to naturally become more
00:55:31.889 --> 00:55:36.480
and more um aligns. Yeah. Right. Yes. We naturally
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.500
come into ourselves. So we take on a lot of conditioning
00:55:38.500 --> 00:55:41.539
from birth to seven, from our family, seven to
00:55:41.539 --> 00:55:46.179
14 by our peers, 14 to 21 by the society that
00:55:46.179 --> 00:55:50.619
we exist in. And then a little bit more. So we
00:55:50.619 --> 00:55:53.019
start questioning things 21 to 28 and around
00:55:53.019 --> 00:55:55.940
our Saturn return at 28, we really, really start
00:55:55.940 --> 00:55:58.900
questioning the big questions. And that's, you
00:55:58.900 --> 00:56:01.219
know, a lot of things start to fall apart, but.
00:56:01.579 --> 00:56:04.159
I have to say, because this episode is going
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.280
to be long. This episode is going to be long,
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:07.500
y 'all. We should have warned you at the beginning.
00:56:09.059 --> 00:56:13.320
My favorite experiences with human design have
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:17.059
been for moms with nonverbal children, whether
00:56:17.059 --> 00:56:20.119
they're autistic or something else is going on
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:24.380
and they're struggling with. different things,
00:56:24.579 --> 00:56:26.820
like getting their kids into different environments.
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:28.380
They need to start a new school. They need to,
00:56:28.380 --> 00:56:30.320
they're not eating. They're, you know, all of
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:31.599
these things. I've had multiple conversations
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.320
with parents who were like, help me with my kid.
00:56:34.980 --> 00:56:38.199
And I'm like, Hey, this is what's going on. This
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.619
is, this is how, and like, it's really funny
00:56:40.619 --> 00:56:43.860
because if you have a kid that does not have
00:56:43.860 --> 00:56:46.099
a defined emotional solar plexus, but the parent
00:56:46.099 --> 00:56:49.380
does. The parent needs to learn how to emotionally
00:56:49.380 --> 00:56:51.659
regulate before they are dealing with the child
00:56:51.659 --> 00:56:53.440
because the child is taking on those emotions
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.500
and amplifying them. The child isn't the problem.
00:56:56.579 --> 00:57:01.699
You are. And so knowing that was like, oh, my
00:57:01.699 --> 00:57:04.039
God, like so many. And it's usually moms that
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:05.900
are coming to me about their charts and stuff.
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.059
Yeah. That's just statistically where it's at.
00:57:10.179 --> 00:57:12.980
I would love to chat with some dads about their
00:57:12.980 --> 00:57:15.059
kids. But there was there was one kid that was
00:57:15.059 --> 00:57:17.940
not growing. And he was on the autism spectrum.
00:57:18.219 --> 00:57:21.579
He was nonverbal. He was seven, seven or eight,
00:57:21.659 --> 00:57:26.079
somewhere in that range and would not eat. And
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.980
so I pull up his chart and sure enough, his food
00:57:28.980 --> 00:57:32.860
type is touch nervous. So the touch means he
00:57:32.860 --> 00:57:34.920
needs to come into contact with his food. He
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.519
needs finger foods. He needs to be eating with
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:42.199
his hands or helping to prepare the food because
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.829
that will do the same thing. And then the nervous
00:57:45.829 --> 00:57:49.210
is he needs to move. He needs to eat on the go.
00:57:49.530 --> 00:57:51.610
And so I asked her, I'm like, are you trying
00:57:51.610 --> 00:57:54.889
to have him sit in a chair and eat with like
00:57:54.889 --> 00:57:56.889
utensils? She's like, yeah. I'm like, stop it.
00:57:57.429 --> 00:57:59.730
He's not going to eat. That's, that's not his.
00:57:59.949 --> 00:58:02.929
And so she started feeding him finger foods or
00:58:02.929 --> 00:58:05.989
letting him eat with his hands and started teaching,
00:58:06.090 --> 00:58:10.010
like having him part of the kitchen. And he shot
00:58:10.010 --> 00:58:12.690
up in weight and height and like was growing
00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:15.429
again. Like that's why I love him. That's one
00:58:15.429 --> 00:58:16.469
of the reasons why I love him. That's fantastic.
00:58:16.489 --> 00:58:18.050
There's so many reasons, but like that's one
00:58:18.050 --> 00:58:19.829
of the big reasons. How helpful for parents.
00:58:19.909 --> 00:58:23.570
And also, I mean, as a mom, obviously a lot of
00:58:23.570 --> 00:58:27.110
parents, and I'm going to generalize moms here
00:58:27.110 --> 00:58:28.909
because they're the ones coming in for those
00:58:28.909 --> 00:58:32.730
readings most often, digging in, trying to figure
00:58:32.730 --> 00:58:34.949
out their kid, trying to figure out what's best
00:58:34.949 --> 00:58:38.590
for them. And there can be a little bit of mom
00:58:38.590 --> 00:58:41.329
guilt. If you find out like it's you, you're
00:58:41.329 --> 00:58:43.880
the emotional authority. You need to regulate
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.780
yourself first, like all that. There could be
00:58:45.780 --> 00:58:47.539
some mom guilt, right? There could be some like,
00:58:47.579 --> 00:58:50.760
it's me. I've been doing this. It's, you know,
00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:54.559
whatever. But to release that and say, okay,
00:58:54.659 --> 00:58:57.420
this isn't my, I didn't consciously, you know,
00:58:57.420 --> 00:59:01.980
know this. I know this now. But it also gives
00:59:01.980 --> 00:59:04.340
a sense of comfort to know that there is some
00:59:04.340 --> 00:59:08.239
control somewhere in it. oh, I can influence
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.059
this. It's not totally out of my control in that
00:59:11.059 --> 00:59:13.320
it's just my kid. They're going to do whatever
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.599
they're going to do as inconvenient as it is
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:21.159
for me. But to have some like, oh, I can do something
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.519
about it. That feels, for people like me who
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.119
like to know some certainty, that feels really
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:33.559
good. Yeah. Yeah. So my daughter, she has a defined
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.260
spleen, splenic center, right? And so again,
00:59:37.300 --> 00:59:40.659
that's about fears, body awareness, instincts,
00:59:40.860 --> 00:59:43.760
all that stuff, right? So, and one of the things
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:48.139
that Rauru talks about is if someone has a defined
00:59:48.139 --> 00:59:50.579
spleen, they have consistent energy in that spleen,
00:59:50.619 --> 00:59:54.179
and they are around someone who does not have
00:59:54.179 --> 00:59:57.880
a defined, it's undefined, the undefined individual
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:01.260
is going to feel very safe and secure in the
01:00:01.260 --> 01:00:05.840
presence of the defined. Right. So my daughter
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.940
has a defined spleen. I don't. And so and it's
01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:12.119
very, very common that we create an unhealthy
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:17.960
codependence on this shared feeling of safety
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.440
because she was worried. Like and it's it's not
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.559
rational. It's not logical. It's instinctual.
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:29.880
But she as an infant felt I was unsafe if I was
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.659
not with her. So I left her. She would be upset.
01:00:34.669 --> 01:00:36.329
Because she wasn't worried that something would
01:00:36.329 --> 01:00:37.670
happen to her. She was worried something would
01:00:37.670 --> 01:00:39.969
happen to me that I would not come back. Yeah.
01:00:40.050 --> 01:00:44.110
Right. Yep. I also felt this fear and I thought,
01:00:44.130 --> 01:00:47.309
oh, she just has separation anxiety. As soon
01:00:47.309 --> 01:00:50.170
as I understood what it was, we started playing
01:00:50.170 --> 01:00:53.550
peekaboo more often. We started playing and like
01:00:53.550 --> 01:00:56.150
it was almost like how you train a dog to deal
01:00:56.150 --> 01:00:59.000
with separation anxiety. You like. prepare like
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.460
you're going to leave and then you put everything
01:01:00.460 --> 01:01:02.039
back down and you sit down and then you get up
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:04.199
and like it was doing a lot of those tactics
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:10.179
um to prepare her and to get her and now she's
01:01:10.179 --> 01:01:13.059
she's just fine she's just fine and i'm mostly
01:01:13.059 --> 01:01:15.579
just fine i mean of all the work that i do i
01:01:15.579 --> 01:01:18.039
think that um working with children or helping
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.639
people to work with children It's one of my favorite
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.239
parts because if there can be any insight and
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:27.340
children not being able to verbalize, I mean,
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.599
neurodivergent or not, or, you know, neurotypical,
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.860
any of it, just not being able to verbalize like
01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:36.360
my needs. You know, they say children don't come
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:39.079
with instructions. And so you're like, okay,
01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:40.820
well, then we're just like totally out there
01:01:40.820 --> 01:01:42.940
on our own pretending to be detectives figuring
01:01:42.940 --> 01:01:45.780
things out. I think it is really helpful to have
01:01:45.780 --> 01:01:48.820
human design chart. And what I do with kids.
01:01:49.500 --> 01:01:53.460
specifically in energy healing sessions is through
01:01:53.460 --> 01:01:56.440
color. Like being able to ask a child, what color
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:58.780
are you feeling? What color does that look like
01:01:58.780 --> 01:02:03.440
to you? And then tap into what subconscious connections
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:05.659
that could be. And so teaching parents about
01:02:05.659 --> 01:02:08.199
those things and helping them understand their
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:11.460
child and helping them express emotions in a
01:02:11.460 --> 01:02:12.980
way that's appropriate, developmentally appropriate
01:02:12.980 --> 01:02:17.900
for their age. All of that are just like fantastic
01:02:17.900 --> 01:02:21.639
tools. along the way to you know learn your kid
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:26.320
and to parent yes those tiny humans and just
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:30.000
that we all don't understand yeah no I like when
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.739
people start diving into human design they're
01:02:32.739 --> 01:02:35.820
like oh my gosh I get why you don't shut up about
01:02:35.820 --> 01:02:39.519
this I'm like right right yeah Yeah, it's fantastic.
01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:43.039
Okay, so let's get to people who want to learn.
01:02:43.099 --> 01:02:45.639
Obviously, classes. I highly recommend classes.
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.300
The classes that I've been with you, that's super
01:02:48.300 --> 01:02:50.539
helpful for me personally to learn because I
01:02:50.539 --> 01:02:54.260
like to sit there, take notes, ask questions.
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:57.199
That's my favorite way. But you've recommended
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.360
some really good books, and I have a few of them.
01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:01.119
I should have grabbed them so I could show them
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.980
on the camera, but I forgot to grab them. For
01:03:04.980 --> 01:03:09.840
people, what? You recommend that they go and
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:17.280
get to learn. So this is Ra Uruhu's book. It
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.699
was nibbled on by one of my furry children when
01:03:20.699 --> 01:03:25.739
I first got it. And it's amazing. It's everything
01:03:25.739 --> 01:03:28.300
from the mouth of Ra. He passed away in 2011.
01:03:28.619 --> 01:03:31.460
And so Linda Minnell continued on and published
01:03:31.460 --> 01:03:37.610
this without him. But yeah, it's all his stuff.
01:03:37.670 --> 01:03:40.010
And his stuff is still on YouTube. Like if you
01:03:40.010 --> 01:03:43.650
go and search human design, his stuff's going
01:03:43.650 --> 01:03:45.789
to pop up just as much as any of the other people.
01:03:46.250 --> 01:03:48.309
But the one that I am really absolutely loving
01:03:48.309 --> 01:03:51.010
for people who are getting started, because this
01:03:51.010 --> 01:03:55.690
one is mouthy. It is like very academic. Yes,
01:03:55.769 --> 01:04:00.050
it is very college level kind of stuff. So this
01:04:00.050 --> 01:04:04.400
gal, Rachel Lieberman. So it's a modern guide
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:10.079
to human design. Simplified a lot of things,
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.239
a lot of the concepts. It's very colorful. It's
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.579
very interactive. Maybe not interactive is not
01:04:15.579 --> 01:04:18.780
the right word. It's very user friendly and it's
01:04:18.780 --> 01:04:24.579
very digestible for anybody. And she has it broken
01:04:24.579 --> 01:04:28.099
down into just a way that flows very, very easily.
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.599
And if you learn, so I also teach my classes
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.820
that the next one will be on September 18th at
01:04:36.820 --> 01:04:40.860
6 p .m. at the Conjuring Tree. You can, I think
01:04:40.860 --> 01:04:45.460
they're going to have the, if you go to the conjuringtree
01:04:45.460 --> 01:04:49.559
.com to the events, they should have all the
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:53.679
links up on the website shortly. Facebook and
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:55.860
other social media sites will be coming soon
01:04:55.860 --> 01:05:00.849
for all of that. But, yeah, if you don't see
01:05:00.849 --> 01:05:03.909
it just yet, it's coming. It's happening. Yeah.
01:05:03.969 --> 01:05:05.369
I'm not sure when this podcast will launch. And
01:05:05.369 --> 01:05:08.349
I highly recommend people who are local, who
01:05:08.349 --> 01:05:10.969
are in the Salt Lake area, because then we have
01:05:10.969 --> 01:05:13.849
listeners kind of all over the world. All over
01:05:13.849 --> 01:05:16.909
the place. But if you're local, come in and visit
01:05:16.909 --> 01:05:19.130
us. Come and see us on Tuesdays when I'm there.
01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:23.579
And I'm at the tree on Thursdays in particular.
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:26.739
That's my days to do readings. So I run the store
01:05:26.739 --> 01:05:29.760
three days a week and then do readings one day
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:34.420
a week. And then I can do readings Wednesday,
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:39.000
Friday or Saturday. I do distance readings. That's
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.519
part of what this microphone is here for. Yeah.
01:05:42.579 --> 01:05:44.420
And this is a perfect modality, too, for people
01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:46.539
to do virtually just because you can sit and
01:05:46.539 --> 01:05:48.539
you can look at it together. And it's probably
01:05:48.539 --> 01:05:51.380
very, very convenient. Very friendly. Yes. Yeah.
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:54.099
Yes. So where can people find you to book a session
01:05:54.099 --> 01:06:00.500
with you, your website? So my website is lightuponthegraves
01:06:00.500 --> 01:06:04.360
.com. My last name is Graves. I'm a medium. I
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.340
had to make a play. And I'm always like before
01:06:07.340 --> 01:06:10.090
I found human design. I was very much, and I'm
01:06:10.090 --> 01:06:11.869
still an advocate of showing that there is a
01:06:11.869 --> 01:06:14.889
lighter side to death, hence Light Upon the Graves.
01:06:17.230 --> 01:06:20.809
On TikTok, I am kittens from the graves because
01:06:20.809 --> 01:06:26.369
it's mostly kitten foster content. Yeah. Kitten
01:06:26.369 --> 01:06:32.130
videos. So Facebook, Light Upon the Graves, which
01:06:32.130 --> 01:06:34.469
will, if you click to make an appointment, it'll
01:06:34.469 --> 01:06:38.670
just direct you over to my website. And depending
01:06:38.670 --> 01:06:40.989
on the day that you're booking, it may send you
01:06:40.989 --> 01:06:44.050
over to the Conjuring Trees website. So there's
01:06:44.050 --> 01:06:47.849
all of those available. I don't have a public
01:06:47.849 --> 01:06:52.250
Instagram. My Instagram is private just because
01:06:52.250 --> 01:06:56.440
Facebook's enough. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I was
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:58.280
one of those that started Facebook and went,
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.079
I'm never going anywhere else. I don't want to
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:02.920
do anything else. Don't make me. And now I'm
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.699
on TikTok and Instagram and all the things. And
01:07:04.699 --> 01:07:06.559
I'm like, I just followed everybody around to
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:08.800
wherever they were at. Yeah. It's a big pain,
01:07:08.860 --> 01:07:12.320
but also great. It's great. It's fine. Whatever.
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.380
I like all of it. So you can find Esther and
01:07:16.380 --> 01:07:21.119
book a session for. Human design reading or mediumship.
01:07:21.659 --> 01:07:24.699
That's actually where I met you first. Many years
01:07:24.699 --> 01:07:28.760
ago, I took, I think it was mediumship class
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:31.360
first that I came to The Conjuring Tree and took
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:34.900
that just to develop. I don't consider myself
01:07:34.900 --> 01:07:36.940
a medium, but I'm like, I want to develop some
01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:42.909
of those intuition skills. Gate 28 is the gate
01:07:42.909 --> 01:07:45.090
of death. It can show up as a fear of time or
01:07:45.090 --> 01:07:46.670
running out of time. But most people who have
01:07:46.670 --> 01:07:49.650
gate 28 have mediumship abilities, whether they
01:07:49.650 --> 01:07:51.389
do anything with them or not. It's up to them.
01:07:51.469 --> 01:07:54.550
Yeah. Well, and sometimes things do show up.
01:07:54.550 --> 01:07:58.210
We were talking about I've been doing a little
01:07:58.210 --> 01:08:01.070
bit more house cleansing sessions lately. And
01:08:01.070 --> 01:08:05.989
yes, I mean, I'm not one who usually tries to
01:08:05.989 --> 01:08:11.190
tap in or tries to. uh even like okay you know
01:08:11.190 --> 01:08:13.769
spirits and things like that i'm just here to
01:08:13.769 --> 01:08:16.369
cleanse energy i'm here to do my part what i
01:08:16.369 --> 01:08:19.529
can do but i had a particular uh house cleansing
01:08:19.529 --> 01:08:21.750
the other day where i was walking through a house
01:08:21.750 --> 01:08:26.289
and i was like oh there's a guy sitting in the
01:08:26.289 --> 01:08:31.130
chair that's unusual i'm not used to that and
01:08:31.130 --> 01:08:36.479
that's my every day yeah yeah I imagine that
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.180
that's what it's like. But for me, it has to
01:08:39.180 --> 01:08:41.720
be just right. The conditions are just right.
01:08:41.779 --> 01:08:45.199
But it was like, oh, okay. That's something to
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.560
deal with. That's what we're dealing with today.
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:50.720
So I also have another class called Light Circle.
01:08:51.819 --> 01:08:54.239
It is a mediumship development with automatic
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:57.760
writing. That is going to be on September 25th,
01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:59.600
also at 6 p .m. Both of these are on a Friday.
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.300
Sorry. It's just what's available on the calendar.
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:09.939
it's a lot of fun light circle is because i have
01:09:09.939 --> 01:09:12.300
everybody write down the information that they
01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:15.619
get for whatever practice that we're doing and
01:09:15.619 --> 01:09:19.340
then we all share and people will be like oh
01:09:19.340 --> 01:09:22.340
my gosh i got that too or like oh that's like
01:09:22.340 --> 01:09:24.720
this version but you said it this way like it's
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:29.659
yeah collaborative a little bit it's it's more
01:09:29.659 --> 01:09:33.020
it's validating yes it's it's really really wonderful
01:09:33.020 --> 01:09:34.779
and beautiful and it's it's really fun i think
01:09:34.779 --> 01:09:37.579
my favorite though was when we did cold cases
01:09:37.579 --> 01:09:42.180
um are you a true crime a little bit yeah did
01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:44.159
i tell you about this one not as much as other
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.680
people but i i get into the documentaries a little
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.539
bit that's okay do you know the staircase no
01:09:49.539 --> 01:09:56.279
dive to 13 hours It's a 13 hour documentary.
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:02.819
Okay. So husband and wife. Things seem great.
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.039
Two o 'clock in the morning. They're outside
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.859
smoking. She goes in a little bit earlier. He's
01:10:07.859 --> 01:10:09.680
smoking a cigar. It takes a little long for it
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.439
to burn down. He goes in the house. He finds
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.260
her in a pool of blood at the bottom of the stairs.
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.880
Hence the staircase. It's this whole long saga.
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:25.729
He is tried for her murder. Oh, this is sounding
01:10:25.729 --> 01:10:29.710
familiar. Right. He goes to jail. He gets out
01:10:29.710 --> 01:10:32.569
of jail on a technicality like he shouldn't have
01:10:32.569 --> 01:10:35.810
been in jail. I don't believe he killed her.
01:10:36.930 --> 01:10:41.329
There is something called the owl theory floating
01:10:41.329 --> 01:10:44.729
around out there that she was a type A individual.
01:10:44.909 --> 01:10:47.189
She was known as Martha Stewart in her neighborhood.
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.460
It was around Christmas time. And so there's
01:10:51.460 --> 01:10:53.979
a theory that she went out to put out Christmas
01:10:53.979 --> 01:10:56.500
decorations at two o 'clock in the morning because
01:10:56.500 --> 01:10:58.600
she didn't want to leave it for her husband to
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:00.279
do the next morning because she had a meeting
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:02.039
and she didn't want him to do it wrong, right?
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:07.199
Type A. There was a neighborhood owl, potentially
01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:12.989
attacked her. She ran inside. She was on medication
01:11:12.989 --> 01:11:15.550
that could have made her dizzy. She's bleeding.
01:11:15.630 --> 01:11:17.449
She's wearing flip -flops going up a very narrow
01:11:17.449 --> 01:11:20.229
staircase. She could have slipped, fallen, right,
01:11:20.310 --> 01:11:22.350
and bled out because that's how she died was
01:11:22.350 --> 01:11:28.569
exsanguination. Okay. Okay. So not our last light
01:11:28.569 --> 01:11:30.250
circle, but the one before that was when we did
01:11:30.250 --> 01:11:32.069
the true crimes and I presented this case. And
01:11:32.069 --> 01:11:35.069
how I presented the case was her photo and her
01:11:35.069 --> 01:11:38.909
name inside an envelope. The envelope is closed.
01:11:39.069 --> 01:11:41.329
You cannot see inside the envelope. I pass the
01:11:41.329 --> 01:11:43.369
envelope around to everybody at the table. You
01:11:43.369 --> 01:11:45.329
write down the information that you get. This
01:11:45.329 --> 01:11:49.729
cute kid pulls me over and he's like, I don't
01:11:49.729 --> 01:11:53.390
know about this. Trust that shit. If you're like,
01:11:53.430 --> 01:11:55.109
I don't know. I don't know. This is weird. That's
01:11:55.109 --> 01:11:56.510
me. That's the shit you trust. That's usually
01:11:56.510 --> 01:11:59.449
how I go about it. So I'm like, whatever it is,
01:11:59.489 --> 01:12:02.609
write it down. He's like, bird hat? You want
01:12:02.609 --> 01:12:06.850
me to write down bird hat? And I said, yes. Yes.
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.859
Write that down. And I will explain in a minute
01:12:10.859 --> 01:12:13.840
why. And so when I'm revealing and I'm telling
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.539
them about the case, because not everybody knew
01:12:15.539 --> 01:12:18.000
about the case. And I said, there's the owl theory.
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:22.500
He goes, bird hat, bird hat. I'm like, yes. I
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need more practice like this. This is the kind
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:26.439
of stuff I need to be doing. Come to light circle.
01:12:26.899 --> 01:12:28.939
Yeah. Yeah. I need more of this. So it's myself
01:12:28.939 --> 01:12:32.220
and Venus Marie who teach light circle. And it's
01:12:32.220 --> 01:12:37.649
just, it's a lot of fun. If you're going to do
01:12:37.649 --> 01:12:38.689
something with me, we're going to have a good
01:12:38.689 --> 01:12:42.050
time. Come hang out. Yeah. Take a class. And
01:12:42.050 --> 01:12:44.270
I'm there on Tuesday. So again, just like Esther
01:12:44.270 --> 01:12:46.689
said, you can go to my website to book a session.
01:12:46.789 --> 01:12:49.430
And if you are booking on Tuesdays, it will go
01:12:49.430 --> 01:12:51.449
directly to The Conjuring Tree and book there
01:12:51.449 --> 01:12:57.149
as well. That's how I have it set up. So prism
01:12:57.149 --> 01:13:01.699
-healing .com. And obviously... This is the podcast
01:13:01.699 --> 01:13:04.020
Practically Magic. We'd like you to subscribe,
01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:07.680
like you to share it. If you know somebody who's
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:09.319
into human design and would like to learn a little
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.560
bit more, share this episode. Go find Esther.
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:18.300
Go get a reading done. And as for announcements,
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:22.619
I... Next week, we're going to go see the Practical
01:13:22.619 --> 01:13:27.039
Magic 2 movie as the podcast sponsored some tickets.
01:13:27.100 --> 01:13:30.000
And so hopefully you already won yours and you're
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:34.359
there with us. I have to say about that. As far
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.100
as Prism Healing goes, I do have art classes
01:13:36.100 --> 01:13:38.739
that are available. I'm doing some very special
01:13:38.739 --> 01:13:40.819
art classes coming up for the fall session that
01:13:40.819 --> 01:13:43.079
are going to be once a month inner child healing
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:46.699
through art. And that's going to be. It's going
01:13:46.699 --> 01:13:48.899
to be kind of like a cohort. So you get to sign
01:13:48.899 --> 01:13:50.800
up for the class, come once a month and do the
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:53.640
healing through art with us in person. And then
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.319
every week we have an open Zoom call where everybody
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:59.420
in the class can join in and discuss what the
01:13:59.420 --> 01:14:02.199
moon cycle is doing that week and what journal
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:05.060
prompts we have in our healing cycle towards
01:14:05.060 --> 01:14:07.960
the next class next month. So it kind of takes
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:11.600
you through nice, gentle healing. experience
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:14.800
together as a little cohort group. We'll be starting
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.279
that at the end of September going through December.
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:20.060
So that's the only announcements I have. Anything
01:14:20.060 --> 01:14:22.380
else you want to add Esther before we sign off?
01:14:22.659 --> 01:14:25.319
The last thing that I'm doing in September is
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:30.199
going to be on September 27th. And that is a
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.300
gallery reading that I do. It's a group kind
01:14:33.300 --> 01:14:36.039
of thing with Jennifer Martin. And we're doing
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:37.920
a little bit of a discount. I don't remember
01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:39.720
the details of the discount, but I know that
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.039
if you buy more than one ticket, so if you bring
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.920
a friend or friends, there's a little bit, there's
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:49.899
a discount going on. But you can see links for
01:14:49.899 --> 01:14:55.140
that on Light Upon the Graves, on Readings by
01:14:55.140 --> 01:14:59.800
Jennifer. And it's going to be on the Conjuring
01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.199
Tree website as well. So yeah. And it will be
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:04.539
at the Conjuring Tree. Yeah. And we'll make sure
01:15:04.539 --> 01:15:08.340
to have all the links. Get all the links in the
01:15:08.340 --> 01:15:10.119
show notes for people if they want to look for
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:12.359
that or they are having trouble finding it. You
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:15.159
can have it there. So thank you so much, Esther,
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:17.260
for coming on today. Thanks for having me. This
01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:19.800
was fun. I can't wait to see you in like two
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:27.039
hours. Yeah. Okay. Well, good luck and go make
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.680
magic, witches and wizards.