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Jumping straight into this one because this one's gonna be a good one.
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Doesn't really need an introduction to it, does it?
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We're talking about uh 1987.
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We're gonna go back to nineteen eighty seven again.
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We were there just two weeks ago with Robocop, but this is what I hear Arnold Schwarzenegger's Predator.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger, he's the organized who di who directed it's the same guy who did um I've got my notes, same guy who did Die Hard the the next year.
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Wow I don't have my notes.
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John McDiernan, did I just pull that name at Mars?
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I might have if I didn't it's one of Arnold's most quoted movies.
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Absolutely.
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This film is just full of fucking Tetosterone masculinity and testosterone, and just unapologetically so it's kind of like what we were talking about in the Robocop film um about 80s action movies where you you need to be in on the joke, you can't even laugh at them, you need to be in on it, you need to go all in because this is this is machismo turned up to a living man.
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Absolutely, I love it.
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But before we get into it, for people who haven't seen Predator, I'm gonna tell you what it is.
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So Alvard Schwarzenegger starts as Dutch, leader of a paramilitary rescue team on a mission to save hostages in central in the Central American rainforest, who encounters a deadly predator, a skilled and technologically advanced extraterrestrial that stalks and hunts down his team.
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Film also features Elpida Carillo, Carl Weathers, Richard Chavez, Sonny Landham, Bill Duke, Jesse the Body Ventura, and Shane Black.
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So there's too much to talk about in this.
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There's too much to talk about at the start, and I want to talk about the introduction of Dutch's team and all of them on the chopper, and all of them coming off the chopper, and and and what I love about it is our first introduction to them, and it's all kind of silhouetted.
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And the thing that stuck out to me the very most at the start of this is Bill Duke's Mac.
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He's in Cambodia or something on a chopper in the rainforest, and he's got a fucking three-piece grey suit on.
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What an absolute hero.
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It's just I just I don't know why I like that so much, but it's it's got such a testosterone field introduction because everybody jumps off the plane the helicopter, sorry, and the first of many iconic scenes, Arlund with a cigar and he's lighting it with the orange polo shirt on, and what a fucking look, man.
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Oh it's just so 80s, man.
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It's so 80s.
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A look.
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Um and more like again, we're talking about the behind the scenes where all those guys were just so competitive with each other, and who is gonna be the biggest, who was gonna have the biggest gun, who was gonna have the biggest knife, and you see that throughout the whole movie.
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That's I love that the like the whole team because that's what I was thinking to myself.
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I was like, because right, I watched this film for the first time when I was far too young.
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I think I was maybe six or seven roundabout there, because I used to love all things Schwarzenegger, Stallone, and Van Dam.
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That's what I was brought up on.
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That's what I was brought up, yeah.
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Um it's so cool.
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But I like these guys are supposed to be like special forces in the military.
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Blaine, Jesse the Buddy Ventura, is essentially got a fucking gatling gun in the middle of the Cambodian rainforest.
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They've all got huge weapons, and it's just nothing's said about it, and you just got to accept the fact that these guys are absolutely filled to the brim with testosterone, and they want big guns, ammunition, and they want with their sleeves ripped off and their baby oil covered in it.
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Covered in body, what a film.
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I don't even know where I started with that there, but well, after well, after that, it's the the famous when he meets Carl Weathers, yes, Dylan.
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You son of a bitch, boom.
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That's where we start off with that handshake.
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Exactly.
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Oh it's it's it's and Carl Weathers looks amazing for that's that is one of the things I did not realize just because Arnold's so big, yeah, and you think everybody kind of doesn't appeal in comparison, but everybody's always compared to Arnold because I think that was the time he'd done Rocky 4 with Drago 87, maybe Runabout then I think and he was in tip top peak shape, you know.
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Um that's again everybody's fucking jacked in this film, but it's like it's it's it's in a way that it's supposed to be it's perceived as being cool, that's what cool was in the 80s, absolutely over the top guys with you know flat tops and cigars and big muscles and crop tops everyone was hitting the gym back then because that was that was the culture and lifestyle back then, exactly because of these guys on our screens.
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I know, and it's not like uh um one of those things where in in modern times it's seen as an oh that's an unattainable uh body type or body image, pressure and all that kind of yeah, and it's like oh they shouldn't be doing that.
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No, that's what you were aspiring to be.
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That was yeah, that was what you wanted to get.
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We're out in the garden pretending to be these characters with their fucking fake guns and going out to the woods and pretending to look for a predator and all that, not that kind of predator, but um oh but that handshake when it starts it off, and then they're just holding each other and says, What to say?
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I see I got you pushing too many pencils, gas.
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That is that is beautiful, but from a storytelling perspective, this film is class as well because we get we drip fed information about how um close-knit these guys are as a team because they referenced uh Burma are some.
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Yeah, did they used to serve they used to serve of each other back in Aye?
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Yeah, so that the this isn't as hairy as well.
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Yeah, some job we did in Berlin, what happened there?
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So these guys have been through it, so we don't need to spend any time getting like showing them having that relationship.
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We just it just exists in the conversation, and that's more prevalent, more so when they're on their way into the rainforest, and you get a sneak peek of like who all these characters are and what's their place within the team.
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So Arnold Dutch is smoking a cigar and he's talking to Dylan about the mission.
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I've got this all written down.
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Um, and uh the only thing I've written down in my my notes for Carl Wethers for Dylan is Greek God because he looks like he's sculpted it a fucking marble, he looks amazing, and and he goes all in because one of the things you don't get in the kind of glamorised 80s, especially action movies, is is your lead stars who are like covered in sweat, he is dripping all the way through.
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Man, he is glistening and it looks amazing.
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And Jesse Ventura, we we get to see his persona because he's got the big fucking uh Gatling gun, I forget what he calls it.
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Um yeah, no, I don't remember either.
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I just remember the tobacco, and then Mac is like dry shaving, yeah, dry shaving, yeah.
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And it's like that just looks uncomfortable, and then you've got um who is it?
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Billy, the the Native American guy who's just gonna like sitting in stoic and doesn't really say anything, even when um who is it?
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Who is it?
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Um I've got all the names written in here.
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Poncho is telling him the joke.
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I'll try to tell him a joke, and he's just that scene in the helicopter helicopter who's telling him the joke, aye, and he just he's up to explain himself.
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It's just great, aye, and then that's that's there you go.
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That's 45 seconds of showing each of these characters interacting with each other and you get their relationships and you get the hierarchy of the team, and you don't need anything else, not that's not even any background story or nothing, no, like you know what happened to and not anything.
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You don't need anything, that's it.
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No, so that I didn't know this, but when Predator was released, it was released to like mixed reviews in a kind of look warm box office.
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Now it's held in such a high regard, and it's like a it's I I think it's even beyond the cult classic now.
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Yeah, um absolutely, absolutely.
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So I want to get the big question out of the way first.
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Where do you think this lies in the scale of action movies of all time?
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From like what number would you put predator at?
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And why?
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It's it's I don't know what the number is gonna be in the top five.
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Right, okay.
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For me, Monsters, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Amazing Quotes, Tit Tetosterone, um and it's just pure like 80s cheese.
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That's that's enough for me.
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The top five.
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I'm I'm trying to think the top of the head.
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There's I can't compare it to any other 80s like kind of action blockbusters because they're all there.
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Yeah.
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I love them all for their own kind of each kind of interpretation style, whatever.
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So I'm just gonna put it in my top five.
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Nice.
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What about you?
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I think I would I would top five, I don't I might etch top three.
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Okay.
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Um but again, I don't know if I could put them in order because I can't put it past Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
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That might be Terminator 2 is my number one for me.
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Yeah, obviously.
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That's my number one.
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But see when like Lethal Weapon, Die Hard.
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Yeah.
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Um, God, there's so many.
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Um like Bloodsport, Kitboxer.
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Blood Sport would be in my top three, four, maybe as well.
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So I'll write, okay.
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You've helped me out here.
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We'll go I'm going to T2 Blood Sport um and Predator.
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I'm ha I'm happy with that choice.
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That's good.
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That's a good choice.
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Lethal Weapon Fourth.
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Lethal Weapon's definitely, definitely up there for me.
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Um love Die Hard, but I there's other movies that I prefer over Die Hard, but yeah.
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I'm not odd.
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I would, I would, I don't even think Die Hard's the best Die Hard movie.
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I think Die Hard with a Vengeance is the best Die Hard movie.
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Samuel Jackson, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um maybe that's because I don't know why that is.
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I just I just prefer that one.
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Maybe I've seen it first, I don't know.
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Um but I'm trying to think, what are the 80s?
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There was loads, what commando had came out as well.
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All the Stallone films, the Rambo.
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I love Tangle.
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And this is the thing as well, but behind all the scenes and all this kind of stuff as well.
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So um Arnie's obviously him and oh god, what's his character name, Impredator?
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The other big guy Impredator, the one with the spitting the tobacco, uh the tobacco again.
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What's his character?
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Oh Blaine, Jesse the Blood Ventura.
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Aye, so him and Arnie behind the scenes were like competing against each other at the time, who was gonna be bigger and all that.
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But even behind that, like Arnie and Stallone had a rivalry as well.
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Like each film they were gonna be in, who's gonna have the bigger knife, who was gonna because fucking Arnie's carrying like later on the movie, he's carrying a minigun that would sit on a helicopter, exactly, isn't it?
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So there was all this background beef going on as well.
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What I really appreciate about Predator, I was gonna ask you, did you know?
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Did so did you know there was a different predator design before the movie came out and who was playing the Predator?
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So it was John Claude Van Damme, and the design of the suit was just absolutely awful as well.
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It kind of looked like a preying mantis, it was kind of red, and he just couldn't run about it.
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So obviously, John Claude Van Damme was new into the he was an unknown, yeah, but he obviously thought of himself as higher and wanting to be you know this big action star, and he's obviously Arnie's not gonna let him take that mantle, so and he's he's playing he's playing this monster, but obviously it didn't go well.
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The the design of the suit was absolutely awful, and that's when like Stan Winston's studios got involved.
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I don't think Stan Winston's uh studios designed the original suit, the Prayne Mattness looking one.
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I'm pretty sure that they knew it wasn't gonna work, and they got Stan Winston involved, and then they him and his team designed the new the new suit of what it looks like today, and they got I forget his name.
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This is what I was should have researched, not researched, just googled up the guy who played Predator, his name was Peter something, and he was like seven foot tall.
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Uh-huh.
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Um he played Predator Kevin Peter Hall, and he died very young as well.
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He died very young, but he also played the alien in Alien, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So um, yeah, just love the the back the background story to how Predator became what it is today, and with Stan Winston's uh involvement and practical because it's heavy practical effects.
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Oh, absolutely, heavy, and the monster, the the the monster creation, the creature creation, and how they've they've created this like animatronic um they're just the mouthpiece, the moot the god, what you call them, what would they call what they call the fangs, the talent, whatever they're called, uh just all that those kind of remote robotic animatronics and stuff like that.
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It looks it looks unbelievable today.
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Like you you would not class that as like practical effects, it looks so real compared to the recent Predator movies now.
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They really relying on CGI, oh are they yeah, I don't know.
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Heavily they've they've tried, no, they they have tried using practical effects.
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So the the Predator they had a practical guy in a suit, no, not the Predator, uh Prey.
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They had a practical guy in the suit, they shot all the scenes, but they still CGI'd a lot of it over.
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And what was the the most recent Predator movie?
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Badlands, yeah, just completely CGI'd it.
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No, just not just did not enjoy it.
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Um so yeah, so Pred Predator to me, the original with the original practical effects, just it holds up compared to all the other movies because they're not in they're not good compared in in my opinion, compared to the original.
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Predator too, yeah.
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Okay, but number one is uh is where it's at.
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Yeah, but aye, absolutely.
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Um right, so even the the heat the heat signature and all that kind of stuff as well.
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There's just so much to talk about this movie.
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I know.
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So this is what is to kind of term that is a horror movie, uh sorry, uh a war movie that turns into a horror movie, which is a very clever I don't know if it's a trope, but it's a very clever plot device, maybe even as a plot device, I don't know what the fuck that is.
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Um but it's cool to go from this action packed, oh we need to go in and and take these guys out.
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But as soon as we see Jim Hopper skinned alive inside his chopper, yeah, boom, this is not gorillas anymore.
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This is something else is is happening.
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We know that because we've we've seen the predator get shot in at the start of the film, yeah.
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But it's seeing big machismo action heroes, every single one of these guys would have been the main good guy in their film, but instantly get turned into the prey, which is obviously the film's called Predator, but these you're because it's like a it's a it's a twist in the in the trope because you're not expecting big burly guys, you're not expecting Arnold to be on his heels, and it's him almost playing against hype, but playing against type in such a macho way where they still don't give a fuck.
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No, and I just there's there's and what is good about this as well is it is kind of slasher-esque where the team get killed off one by one, and it's not just a big boom fight, and then it's Arnold against the guy at the back.
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It's and you don't see the creature as well, you don't see the creature at all, and he does Arnold almost again, probably kind of going against type a wee, but he doesn't want to come into conflict with the predator, he's trying to get to the chopper, he wants to get out exactly.
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He wants to get out, and that's that's again there's so many things, so many wee things playing against type here for the games, but one of the things that doesn't he play against type, again, we've spoken about it, is how macho everybody is, and how everybody's carrying you know 50 kilograms of weapons in the rainforest, they're just trying to outdo each other and who who do you think then in this film has got the best death scene?
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Because spoiler almost everybody dies another favourite for two reasons, uh his favourite sequence for two reasons is Dylan's death where he gets both arms shot off.
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Yes, yes, okay.
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For one, I've kind of spoken about earlier on, it's when um there's so much posing in this film, and Arnold throws him his the automatic gun, and then Dylan catches it, and he's like full six-pack shredded pecs are tearing guns or like that, and he catches it and he poses for about three seconds just after he catches the weapon, so everybody can see his muscle.
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Fucking love it.
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Um and it's just it's just uh it's such a cool line as well.
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It's like uh Dutch is like you're you're not gonna win, and Dylan's like, no, but maybe I can get even.
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Yes, big man's gone to his death, doesn't he care about it?
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Absolutely, man.
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And uh it was just the whole that effect of of um when he gets shot and his arm gets blown off and the the fingers still pull on the trigger, it's so believable because it's obviously he's he's got his arm and then it's all kind of like plastered over the top or whatever, but it looks like fucking million bucks.
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Let's come up with these most fucking blood curdling, like ridiculous deaths, and just show off all these amazing effects.
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And as gory as it is, it's not as gory as you remember it to be because all the deaths are kind of like the exclamation point, is it cuts back to the rest of the group and you just hear the scream, yeah, like like Billy's uh death scene.
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It happens off camera, and it's just him, he stands on the bridge uh the big log and he cuts himself with his fucking machete across his chest, and then all you hear is and then the predator's got his like spinal cord with it and ripped his back, yes.
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One of the most iconic scenes from Predator, he's written at the spin.
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It's just the predator that just the sound.
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Do you know who done that who done the voice of that as well?
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Who's that?
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Peter Cullen, who played Optimus Prime, yeah.
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I was like, no way.
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I found out a few years ago.
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I was like, no way.
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You got paid just to do just to brilliant, and it's just a movie full of absolutely fucking obscene quotes made.
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That's what and that's because they knew that that's what works with Arnie, uh Arnie, and they just went with it.
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The bit when they're in the village with the wee um the the wee commando guys or whatever, and he's just throws the knife, booms, stick around.
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Just all he's just cut, and it just it looks it shit zooms in on his face, and you're like, Yes, you're just you're just going for it, mate.
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That's like the the camera work in this film is amazing as well.
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It just it falls everything, it's such it's so like tight net and it's so close and it's so claustrophobic, and it and it's always everybody's always standing, obviously by design, we're like the kind of trees right at their shoulders, it's almost if they're kind of like stuck like sardines in this jungle, in this roasting hot jungle, and everybody's sweating and it looks looks uncomfortable.
00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.599
And they frame that in such a way to me, anyway.
00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:14.000
Uh huh.
00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:27.200
We try and squeeze everybody in as much as you can so it feels can be guys like guys, like guys, and um that that first scene where they get to the campsite is get one of my favourite lines in the full film, and it's Blaine.
00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:28.960
I ain't got time to bleed.
00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:30.880
Yes, you're bleeding.
00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:32.160
I ain't got time to bleed.
00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:37.359
Yeah, um, there's there's so I I don't know why to start and stop jumping in with these quotes.
00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.119
We should have just gone with the quotes with the quotes because what's your favourite quote from the movie?
00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:42.400
Wait, that's a tough one.
00:19:42.640 --> 00:20:05.920
My one of my favourite quote, but one of my favourite parts in the movie is when the predators have been chasing them for all this time throughout the movie to kill them all, and he's like proper going for them, and then that one time that Arnold's ready to go for it, and the predators kind of sussed it out, and he's like, Look at me, come for me, come kill me now, come for me now.
00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:07.519
I just I just love it.
00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.680
I was cracked, I was pissing myself laughing.
00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:11.359
That's one of my favourite scenes in the movie.
00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:20.960
It's so cool because I I remember watching this and coming to the realisation at the same time as Arnold as Dutch when he jumps off into the river and he gets covered in mud, into the mud, yeah.
00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:27.519
I can see him and he kinda I was like, Oh yeah, exactly.
00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:34.160
Um, but no, one one of my favourite quotes is um is is Billy actually.
00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.000
He's like, There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man, you know.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:40.720
Bullshit, you were afraid of no man.
00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:42.559
I love that.
00:20:42.720 --> 00:21:07.039
I also love Dutchies uh because me and my mate Dave uh go back and forward with predator quotes, and one ever it's just Mac Mac Mac and then someone made this YouTube video, all these arrow quotes, and it's just predators like Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac's such a good character this because he's he's a fucking psychopath.
00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:14.559
Because after Blaine dies and he's having that conversation with him like in the moonlight, and he's talking about how the two of them were brothers and all that, uh-huh.
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:20.480
And then one of the few best lines in that I think is such a good line is like, I'm gonna cut your name right in him.
00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:22.559
What a fucking line.
00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:42.000
And then um when he's chasing after the predator and he's singing uh uh uh long tail Sally and he's just he's gonna go, I'm gonna have me some fun, and he's fucking he's he's gone through, he's in a trance now, he's like tunnel vision and he's knackled and he's like, I'm gonna have me because he starts singing, long tail Sally, and then he's just gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun.
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:43.039
I'm like fucking hell.
00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:46.480
Big man's mind's delusional, man.
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.839
He's he's he's such an underrated character in the whole thing.
00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:56.559
Because he's got so many good scenes when um the predator steals his voice, obviously, and he goes, I'm just gonna talk about that, yeah.
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.759
And he and he he steals his laugh, and he's in he's in the in the tree.
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:00.960
And he's in camera for the floor.
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:07.920
Just before Dylan sees him, and and um and uh Matt grabs Dylan and then he points up.
00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:08.559
What else?
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.400
The end with the face reveal.
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:20.240
That's classic you were not expecting that that look and the quote and you are what ugly motherfucker.
00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:21.519
I just wow.
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.559
I know what a beautiful creature design.
00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:26.960
Absolutely beautiful creature design.
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:27.759
It was great.
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:29.759
Aye, no, I absolutely agree.
00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:38.720
What a very technical, complicated suit that they designed and they made, and it's got so many layers to it.
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:40.559
It's not just like his skin, yeah.
00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:52.400
There's that kind of fish neck to it, and there's the kind of the spots as well, and then the armour on top of it, and the gun on the shoulder, yeah, the helmet, the face, the also the don't know what to call those dreadlocks, yeah.
00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:57.279
Everything it was just beautifully designed and crafted, that suit that he was designed for.
00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:09.519
What I like a lot about the predator design, it was it was like obviously futuristic because it's like advanced tech, yeah, but it was also like reminiscent enough of like current era technology.
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:18.720
See where he's plastering himself up and he's got the weak gun and like the scissors and stuff like that, and it's is it's doing something to him, but we can recognise what it is he's trying to do, he's trying to heal himself.
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.920
So they didn't go with like laser beams or anything to try and cover himself up.
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.319
It's a fucking weak blood stitches, yeah.
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:29.359
Yeah, and the green blood was a great effect, and again, the quote, if it bleeds, we can kill it, yeah.
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:36.000
And it's just like the green blood was just a cool effect, like again, like what they done with the alien um with the yellow blood and all that.
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:46.400
It's just everything is so kind of I don't know, um everything just blends in at that time and the looks that they've got with like Robocop alien and predator, you know.
00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:50.000
It's just when you think of these characters, you think of the 80s, yeah.
00:23:50.160 --> 00:24:01.119
It's just uh it's just that it's it's got it's just an 80s mind design kind of I don't know, it's that kind of 80s culture when you think of the things that were going through and they were coming up with these what they thought what the future was gonna look like.
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:13.680
Aye, definitely, but setting such a like it's not like setting a dystopian future, it's just like it's Cambodia, it's setting the rainforest, setting the jungle, which which adds to its strength.
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:37.519
I would I would assume from a production standpoint, because you don't need sets, you don't need to think about how they're gonna get from A to B to C and all that stuff because they're they're stuck in the jungle, and and it's just it's such a well-crafted, well put together film, like like production design-wise, I think, anyway, because it's it's the jungle, you can do what you want.
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:44.480
I think and there's there's very few, which I thought was amazing, such a like testament to this film as well.
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:49.599
I noticed only a handful of like matte paintings or like reprojection.
00:24:49.680 --> 00:25:07.119
There's reprojection at the very start in the helicopter sort of thing, and then there's one where um it's like it's well it's animated, never noticed it's uh where Dutch is up on um some sort of platform and way in the distance, there's like a river, uh-huh, and that's kind of matte painted as well.
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.039
But it's it's animated and it's fine.
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:09.359
Uh-huh.
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:20.079
Um, but there's there's like three examples, the rest of it is just explosions because especially um when Dutch booby traps his Wii area, none of that's CGI, that's all real explosive.
00:25:20.319 --> 00:26:04.880
Again, that was one of my favourite parts of the movies when Arnie becomes Dutch becomes the predator, yeah, and he's now ready to hunt the you know, hunt the monster and stuff, and it's good seeing that transition with the you know the um how the tables have turned uh exactly and he's preferring and but he's got no technology, he's getting he's just got his noggin here and a big fucking huge knife, and he's just setting all these booby traps and stuff all over, and it's things that we've been drip fed from the start about how these guys did their jobs in um what it might I don't know if it was Burma Burma and then Berlin and then Libya, and they they drop all these wee names, and it's like these guys have been in this situation a hundred times, and it's just building on that experience.
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:14.640
That's why, even in the crux of everything, even when everybody's at the very end, apart from Mac when he goes a wee bit of psycho, Nabi loses their cool.
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:22.799
Like, like I said, Dylan is uh maybe they'll I'll get even then if I kind of beat him, everybody's just fucking switched on and switches back to that.
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:29.119
I don't want to say heroism, but it might be heroism, but that just being hard, yeah.
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.880
That's what I like about it, or just fucking hard.
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:42.480
Not taking themselves too seriously, I like and that's the good thing because you don't see if you inject any of this modern humour into a film like the Predator, it falls on its arse.
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:42.720
Totally.
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:43.279
It does no work.
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:44.400
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:26:44.559 --> 00:27:13.759
Um, and if you if you even have uh even an inkling of them like not taking this as seriously as it needs to be taken, because these I I feel as if these actors in these roles are treating this like it is a thriller drama film, as a as a it's a Vietnam film, as a war film, it just happens to be that they're fucking jacked and is a predator that's after them, but they take it real world seriously, absolutely, and that's that's something that is solely missing from modern world.
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.720
The character we've missed out is the the female, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:17.599
Female as well.
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:32.799
Um Anna El Pida Carillo, she uh but she serves as like such an important character, she's she's um because she tells them about the history of the predator when it's really really warm, the the demon or whatever it is comes from the sky and and people turn up skinned.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:41.359
So she's like, this has happened before, yeah, and and we get those wee insights because she's the first person to say, Oh, the forest came alive, yeah, sort of thing.
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:51.279
What yeah, and she almost like as our guide through this world, so you need that character that otherwise they're all just winning.
00:27:51.839 --> 00:28:05.039
She's trying to interpret what she's what what she's seen, but she can't she can't describe it in a way for them to understand or for ourselves to understand, so we're having to go along with her throughout the movie to find out what what is really going on.
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:09.599
And we need to be we need to pass these certain things, like where who's the first one to go?
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.240
Hawkins, and that the his body goes missing.
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:13.519
What the hell happened to Hawkins?
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:22.480
And then that's the first kind of inkling that something's no right, and then when his uh Poncho gets like the the log slapped off, yeah.
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.480
Something's no right there, and then when I think Billy's the next one to die.
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:27.119
Is he?
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:35.039
No, Blaine, sorry, when Blaine dies, uh Jesse Ventura, Hawkins and Blaine are definitely the least eventful because they just disappear, don't they?
00:28:35.359 --> 00:29:09.359
And Billy Billy's is just such a kill death because he fucking steers the thing down and cuts like I said, and then we don't see just ah and uh Dylan as well, and then Mac is the first time we see the wee three red dots, is the aiming thing, yeah, because it's in his arm, and then it turns round and it's three dots, and you see the hole through his head, and then at the end, uh at the end with the predators like dying, and yeah, and then he's pressing the hang on like what's going on here, and he's just does a and I'm like, what the fuck's going on, right?
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.759
Um and then the girl gets the get the girl gets the safety, doesn't she?
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.400
She gets away in the helicopter and uh Dutch get to the chopper.
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.400
They get to the chopper, and God, I can't believe I'm I'm asking this.
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.480
Does Dutch is Dutch and the Chopper with them?
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:24.880
Mm-hmm.
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.160
Alright, okay.
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.920
It's been a while since I seen it, even though I had it on yesterday.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.559
I'm just like, can I I'm just trying to remember something because I'm like, did he not run away in the jungle?
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:34.960
No.
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.559
So he gets away with I'm sure he gets away with right, aye.
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:46.319
But again, just all that technology that was used, the practical effects, the just all these small weird kind of notes and stuff that was used.
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:53.119
I just I love the practical effects of the movie and the story behind how it was made to what it is now with the creature design.
00:29:53.359 --> 00:30:01.119
I think the the standout thing for me in this film isn't anything to do with like story or cinematography or production or that.
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.039
It's the characters themselves, yeah.
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:10.799
It's the the close knit and it's how everybody with such a short amount of screen time has got their own like identifiable character traits.
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.920
Like I I think Billy's such a cool character because he's he's the exact opposite to everybody else.
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:28.880
He's quiet, he's the kind of like Native American sort of thing, and he he's like looking out for tracks and he's like uh six girls walked in wearing US Army boots, and then none of them walked out, and and that's just like this doesn't make any sense.
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.640
And Billy's just so quiet, uh-huh.
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:36.480
Um and everybody else is kind of like puffing their chest and and and being bravado and peacock and stuff like that.
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:43.279
Just like everybody's individually I don't understand why it wasn't a big hit.
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.559
I don't know why it wasn't a big hit, but like I think it was just new for I don't know, maybe for its time.
00:30:49.759 --> 00:31:03.440
Again, what I liked about it again in the sequels, Predator 2, um it's just like there's now becoming these timelines of when these predators are appearing throughout human history, um, which I really like can appreciated.
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:14.880
Like it's not just this one place and one time they're going, they're they're they're coming through different times for history and how the other movies are doing a kind of love note to the other predator movies.
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:24.480
Although they've they're they're nothing compared to what the original was in terms of they're they're straying away from the original predator design.
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.119
I don't like it.
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:31.359
I don't like the new designs, then the looks of the predators that they're coming up with, and how they've got all these they've got all these individual looks.
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:40.240
I just I prefer just the original look of the predator, but they're coming up with all these different designs of the faces, the is it mandifolds, is that what they're called?
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.400
I forget, I don't know the name by the the dreads like the uh Badlands.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:52.160
The design on the on that one is just awful now, and just how they're incorporating the Wu Tang uh industries.
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.279
The what are they called?
00:31:53.359 --> 00:32:04.160
Uh Whalen Industries, sorry, Wu Tang coming and Wu Tang clan they want my own Wayland industries that they're incorporating that and how it's all part of the same thing, and like Alien versus Predator as well.
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.759
I just like I don't associate those movies with Predator.
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:17.119
I I like to think of Predator as a standalone movie, maybe Predator 2 as well, but nah, I like I prefer it as a standalone movie.
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:31.440
I don't like to relate into the that's the unfortunate thing about essentially every cash, every eye, every movie that every franchise, like there's very, very few where you get a film that is better than the first one.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:46.799
I would say well there's 10 minutes to obviously them arguably, but I don't know if I'm in this camp aliens because it's such a different I prefer aliens, I think it's James Cameron, I know just yeah, it's just the James Cameron vibes, yeah.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:33:02.079
Um and then there's there's like to me, I prefer Lethal Weapon 2 to Lethal Weapon, first one, yeah, just because I think they really hit their stride with the comedic and action and dramatic tone.
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:13.039
The first one was a bit serious, yeah, and it was cool for what it was, but I think the the characters really come into their own in Lethal Weapon 2, and then that's I mean everyone else again is as well.
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:18.880
Go back to the 80s, like we were talking about um original predator design, it flopped.
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:24.000
Stan Winston Studios got involved, um, we're talking about James Cameron, the aliens again.
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.720
I'm pretty sure it was Stan Winston that was involved.
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.559
Terminator 2, Stan Winston Studios involved, predator, Stan Winston.
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:47.599
So it's just these collaborations of these artists coming together that makes that's made these movies stand out for what they were because they've got these really talented guys and ladies all coming on and making these fucking they're just you know giving other blood, sweat, and tears for these movies.
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:53.039
So it just when you think back and you think about who worked on these movies, you say, ah right, that's why it stuck out.
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:59.200
This is why I prefer Alien because uh yeah, it was James Cameron, but he's also like got Stan Winston involved.
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.799
That's that's it because they've they've they're they're pushing the envelope, yeah.
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:12.639
You know, and they're just you know they're they're going crazy with the right, we're gonna we're gonna attempt this and look at the Terminator 2, look at the effects after what 30 odd years, and it still holds up today.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:20.159
Yeah, I I actually watched a video on Terminator 2 and I did not realise how much of it was practical.
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:29.199
It's unbelievably crazy how practical it was and how many different concepts and designs for each scene that they made, especially for the T1000.
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:30.400
Yeah, that was something new.
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.800
That was and that was when his CGI was kind of obviously Jurassic Park.
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:34.960
Yeah.
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.000
No, no, hold on.
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:36.880
Was it Jurassic Park?
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.679
No, it would be T it was T2, that's why they were hired for Jurassic Park.
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.519
Jurassic Park's 93, 94.
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.079
Yeah, T2 was 91, I believe.
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.440
1990 or 1991, yes, it was 91.
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:49.440
I think 919.
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.719
I because I think uh it was 10 years after the first Terminator, right?
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:08.880
Um, I believe, and that was when they first were toying around with CGI with um T1000 going through the prison bar, yeah, the the bars and the the cells and stuff, and that you know, and either got hired for Jurassic Park for that.
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:26.320
So they were just pushing boundaries and all facts like the special effects, but it was this liquid metal look, and it's the puppets that they got involved in the shots and the ballistics are how it's gonna look, and wow, and the the shot where the T1000 is completely frozen, and however they were what do you think is the most 80s moment in the film?
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.719
Most 80s moment, there's so many.
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.840
That's fucking so right.
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:47.440
First of all, the handshake handshake, yes, right, the handshake, and then between the handshake and it's this fucking the the guns man Blaine's big fucking massive gun.
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.639
I can I I hate that I can't remember what the name of the gun is.
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.639
Old painless, old painless, right?
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.639
Blaine's gun name is old painless.
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:57.840
What the fuck does that mean?
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:08.400
Um because Max says maybe time to bring out old painless and then aye, and when they fucking tear away half the jungle by just, yeah.
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:09.599
Was it a minigun?
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.519
Aye, well it was a minigun, wasn't it?
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:12.719
Aye, it was a minigun.
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.639
And then doesn't when was it uh when does uh Arnie get to use a minigun?
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.159
Like uh T2 he used one.
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.559
Did he use one in commando as well?
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.920
No, no, he's got a big rocking creature.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.880
He used in fact he used fucking everyone in commando.
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:38.400
Commando's a great film, um but I uh Blaine uses it and then Mac uses it to just shoot after after Blaine gets killed, and he's like, I've got 200 rounds in it.
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:40.719
Shooting into thin air.
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.119
Aye, no, no, no man could survive that.
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.000
What a what a film.
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:47.519
What's your favourite?
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679
It's got to be it's got to be the handshake.
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.400
The handshake, yeah.
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.079
One of the most iconic handshakes in cinema history, especially with that.
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.920
I love that part uh Orange Polo, and it's just I mean busting through it.
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:10.480
Biceps busting, and then yeah, what's in that uh CIA and too many pencils, no, there's just so many, it's just such a quotable movie, no, and I just love quoting the fuck out of it.
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:20.239
It is, but it's again something that's not necessarily against type because it's because Arnold doesn't really have a type, to be honest with you.
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:30.239
I don't think anyway, I think he's a very versatile actor, and some people always snigger at that, but I really do think he is, he's got his brand, but he's able to be versatile in different roles.
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.079
He's not playing the same character or like like unlike Dwayne Johnson or um Jason Stevens.
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:57.760
Yes, um, and this this is like a a more in like a more intelligent version of what you would expect him to be, this muscle-bound guy, but he uses his wits and he relies in his experience, and he doesn't just go head first into it because he's like, No, let's take our time, let's not engage, let's be smart about this, let's you know circle back, five meter spread, all that sort of shit.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:06.000
And it's just it's such a it's great way to not be all guns blazing, but at the same time, when when it needs to be, it's a full-on fucking act.
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:06.719
I love about him.
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He's such a versatile act, he's very intelligent in how he got to where he is today with his roles and how he's picked his roles.
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Like um, you know, he wants to be the lead action man, he what did he do like Conan, and then he's done like Red Heat and Raw dealing, all that kind of stuff, and he's playing all these different characters, same character, but again, it's so versatile.
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:39.599
Then we've got him in Dutch, and uh then we've got Commando, then he's playing the Terminator, and he originally was never meant to play the Terminator, he's meant to play Kyle OJ Simpson was meant to play the Terminator, so yeah, that's uh that's a weird story.
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Um so I and I love that because he's wanted to be the leading man, but he's like, No, he's gonna play he's he's now playing the the villain, exactly, and then and then T2 is now the hero, and it's but he's a different type of hero, yeah.
00:38:52.800 --> 00:39:02.960
And then like when he when he conquered the action world, he went and conquered the comedy world as well with kindergarten cop and jingle of the way twins and junior and stuff like that.
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.119
But he's he's Junior was weirdest.
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:16.960
Um but like I Arnold is such a great like a lot of people intimidate the voice and the quotes and stuff like that, but I don't think they really appreciate and they make that's the again.
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.800
Modern audiences make fun of what once upon a time was cool, yeah.
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And I just I that doesn't sit right with me with films that I enjoy cool, yeah.
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They were cool, like compared to action movies today, they have nothing on memorable about them whatsoever.
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Nothing whatsoever.
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:42.800
There's not one single movie that I could think of of recent times that stand out compared, like Blood Sport, yeah.
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.360
There's there's nothing that compares.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.559
Like, I think the the only movie of recently that's maybe touched like the Rockies and like is Warrior.
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I really love Warrior with Tom Hardy, yeah, really enjoyed that.
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It was so it was beautifully done.
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But again, like you're 2012, I am such a long time ago.
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There's just nothing that compared to you to your Rockies and your your blood sport, but blood sport is just because again, not to get too political on everybody, but nobody likes quote unquote toxic masculinity anymore, it's not invoked, you're not allowed to be manly in in that way that that's not seen as being an acceptable way to be manly, to be you know this peer pressure, muscle, and beat people up and stuff like that.
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So that's that's a maybe a bit of a lot of people.
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And then they're obviously again, nothing about feminism here or anything like that, but they're trying to push the female roles into into what was the male roles of those times as well, and I don't know, and then we're kind of snowflaking, then we're walking, yeah.
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It's just went a bit the last 10-15 years, has just been a bit of a mess.
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I I don't like I say, I don't mind of course I don't mind enjoy like a a well-written action drama, whatever female character, but replaced in what they've done since about 2015 is just treat women or write women like men, uh-huh, put women in men's roles and and expect them to be the men the men that's they don't act the same.
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Yeah, they from their core button.
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But Sigoni Weaver executed it perfectly in Alien and Alien.
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Exactly.
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There's some even in like people say, Oh, you all you can talk about is Linda Hamilton in Terminator or Sigony Weaver or Princess Leigh.
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We've got people like Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow, which again is quite an old film now, but she's a kick-ass action hero who didn't even need to no, she she doesn't need to be anybody else but herself.
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No, exactly.
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.320
So great acting, yeah.
00:41:46.719 --> 00:42:03.920
I think she was actually one of the ones that said came out um she's like anytime I read a script and it says strong female lead, she just throws it away because it's it's because they know it's men writing male characters but they're casting women in the roles and it doesn't work.
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Sorry guys, it it doesn't work, it doesn't it?
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.960
Um ask Disney Marvel who have lost ten billion dollars.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.880
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, yeah.
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:19.599
And it's it and I think we're just we need to stop taking it too seriously when we're watching these movies and who they're casting, just have fun with it.
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Stop being worried about who you're going to offend because that's where that's why it's where it's going downhill.
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:34.159
I know just they were made for fun, it was they weren't harming anybody, they weren't you know offending anybody, yeah.
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It was all fun, it was just of its time, and now we've got to watch every single step.
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.920
I know when it goes into movie making.
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I think that's um to the detriment of the studio system because I'd like the way I'm seeing things online, Hollywood isn't they gonna exist in the next X amount of years, it's all gonna be quote unquote content creators that build their own audience online and release the movies that way.
00:42:58.480 --> 00:42:59.519
Well, it's already happening, yeah.
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Big studios are they're not gay, we're talking about like um obsession.
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:06.800
Um, what was the backrooms again?
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:11.360
Yeah, YouTube directors are now taking you don't need to go to film school, they're taking it upon themselves.
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.159
All they need is a a producer, so I'm giving some money and go out and make this movie.
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.679
Yeah, we'll we'll we'll get our own team, we'll build our own studio from it.
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.559
We'll we don't even need to get a studio, we'll just build our own sets and make our own movie.
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Same with artists these days, they don't need the music producer or anything to do it.
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Like they've just got they've got Spotify, that's it, and they can just release whatever they want.
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:39.920
That's what it's becoming now because they have taken advantage of these artists and they've fucked it up just because they're greedy fucking corporate bastards.
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:41.119
Exactly, it's the same thing.
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Wait, and I'm gonna talk about it.
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Getting political now and AI, it's yeah, yeah, it's people who aren't creative that are dictating what creative people do, yeah.
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Just all these different aspects that are coming in, they're taking these opportunities our way.
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And I believe that we are coming into a new age of a new renaissance that's gonna come from this where we are gonna fight back and we're gonna take back what's ours and we'll produce our own movies, our own music, and make our own art.
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Yeah.
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Um because fuck the system.
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Exactly.
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And fuck the corporate greedy bastards.
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And yeah, and fuck everybody that uses AI to make music and make uh generated images and make fucking films and fucking what's his name?
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Danny Boyle, who put uh AI generation in his latest film.
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Yeah, Eli Rod.
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Add him to the list, he's gonna go fuck yourselves.
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Again, I said it in the last one, it's such a pulling the ladder up behind you, yeah, dick move.
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:44.880
Uh-huh.
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But like I said, there's a new renaissance coming, yeah, and we're gonna take back what's what's ours, and there's gonna be some new amazing, beautiful, creative movies that will be coming out in the near future.
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So AI's bleeding, it is, and if it bleeds, we can kill it.
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And on that note, then I guess we're done.
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I guess we're done.
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That was Predator, not a lot of talk about Predator.
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There's a lot of talk about Predator, a lot of quite predator quotes, but well.
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Hope you enjoyed guys.
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Jumping straight into this one because this one's gonna be a good one.
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Doesn't really need an introduction to it, does it?
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We're talking about uh 1987.
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We're gonna go back to nineteen eighty seven again.
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We were there just two weeks ago with Robocop, but this is what I hear Arnold Schwarzenegger's Predator.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger, he's the organized who di who directed it's the same guy who did um I've got my notes, same guy who did Die Hard the the next year.
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Wow I don't have my notes.
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John McDiernan, did I just pull that name at Mars?
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I might have if I didn't it's one of Arnold's most quoted movies.
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Absolutely.
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This film is just full of fucking Tetosterone masculinity and testosterone, and just unapologetically so it's kind of like what we were talking about in the Robocop film um about 80s action movies where you you need to be in on the joke, you can't even laugh at them, you need to be in on it, you need to go all in because this is this is machismo turned up to a living man.
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Absolutely, I love it.
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But before we get into it, for people who haven't seen Predator, I'm gonna tell you what it is.
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So Alvard Schwarzenegger starts as Dutch, leader of a paramilitary rescue team on a mission to save hostages in central in the Central American rainforest, who encounters a deadly predator, a skilled and technologically advanced extraterrestrial that stalks and hunts down his team.
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Film also features Elpida Carillo, Carl Weathers, Richard Chavez, Sonny Landham, Bill Duke, Jesse the Body Ventura, and Shane Black.
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So there's too much to talk about in this.
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There's too much to talk about at the start, and I want to talk about the introduction of Dutch's team and all of them on the chopper, and all of them coming off the chopper, and and and what I love about it is our first introduction to them, and it's all kind of silhouetted.
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And the thing that stuck out to me the very most at the start of this is Bill Duke's Mac.
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He's in Cambodia or something on a chopper in the rainforest, and he's got a fucking three-piece grey suit on.
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What an absolute hero.
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It's just I just I don't know why I like that so much, but it's it's got such a testosterone field introduction because everybody jumps off the plane the helicopter, sorry, and the first of many iconic scenes, Arlund with a cigar and he's lighting it with the orange polo shirt on, and what a fucking look, man.
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Oh it's just so 80s, man.
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It's so 80s.
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A look.
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Um and more like again, we're talking about the behind the scenes where all those guys were just so competitive with each other, and who is gonna be the biggest, who was gonna have the biggest gun, who was gonna have the biggest knife, and you see that throughout the whole movie.
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That's I love that the like the whole team because that's what I was thinking to myself.
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I was like, because right, I watched this film for the first time when I was far too young.
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I think I was maybe six or seven roundabout there, because I used to love all things Schwarzenegger, Stallone, and Van Dam.
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That's what I was brought up on.
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That's what I was brought up, yeah.
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Um it's so cool.
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But I like these guys are supposed to be like special forces in the military.
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Blaine, Jesse the Buddy Ventura, is essentially got a fucking gatling gun in the middle of the Cambodian rainforest.
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They've all got huge weapons, and it's just nothing's said about it, and you just got to accept the fact that these guys are absolutely filled to the brim with testosterone, and they want big guns, ammunition, and they want with their sleeves ripped off and their baby oil covered in it.
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Covered in body, what a film.
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I don't even know where I started with that there, but well, after well, after that, it's the the famous when he meets Carl Weathers, yes, Dylan.
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You son of a bitch, boom.
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That's where we start off with that handshake.
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Exactly.
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Oh it's it's it's and Carl Weathers looks amazing for that's that is one of the things I did not realize just because Arnold's so big, yeah, and you think everybody kind of doesn't appeal in comparison, but everybody's always compared to Arnold because I think that was the time he'd done Rocky 4 with Drago 87, maybe Runabout then I think and he was in tip top peak shape, you know.
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Um that's again everybody's fucking jacked in this film, but it's like it's it's it's in a way that it's supposed to be it's perceived as being cool, that's what cool was in the 80s, absolutely over the top guys with you know flat tops and cigars and big muscles and crop tops everyone was hitting the gym back then because that was that was the culture and lifestyle back then, exactly because of these guys on our screens.
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I know, and it's not like uh um one of those things where in in modern times it's seen as an oh that's an unattainable uh body type or body image, pressure and all that kind of yeah, and it's like oh they shouldn't be doing that.
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No, that's what you were aspiring to be.
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That was yeah, that was what you wanted to get.
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We're out in the garden pretending to be these characters with their fucking fake guns and going out to the woods and pretending to look for a predator and all that, not that kind of predator, but um oh but that handshake when it starts it off, and then they're just holding each other and says, What to say?
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I see I got you pushing too many pencils, gas.
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That is that is beautiful, but from a storytelling perspective, this film is class as well because we get we drip fed information about how um close-knit these guys are as a team because they referenced uh Burma are some.
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Yeah, did they used to serve they used to serve of each other back in Aye?
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Yeah, so that the this isn't as hairy as well.
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Yeah, some job we did in Berlin, what happened there?
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So these guys have been through it, so we don't need to spend any time getting like showing them having that relationship.
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We just it just exists in the conversation, and that's more prevalent, more so when they're on their way into the rainforest, and you get a sneak peek of like who all these characters are and what's their place within the team.
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So Arnold Dutch is smoking a cigar and he's talking to Dylan about the mission.
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I've got this all written down.
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Um, and uh the only thing I've written down in my my notes for Carl Wethers for Dylan is Greek God because he looks like he's sculpted it a fucking marble, he looks amazing, and and he goes all in because one of the things you don't get in the kind of glamorised 80s, especially action movies, is is your lead stars who are like covered in sweat, he is dripping all the way through.
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Man, he is glistening and it looks amazing.
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And Jesse Ventura, we we get to see his persona because he's got the big fucking uh Gatling gun, I forget what he calls it.
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Um yeah, no, I don't remember either.
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I just remember the tobacco, and then Mac is like dry shaving, yeah, dry shaving, yeah.
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And it's like that just looks uncomfortable, and then you've got um who is it?
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Billy, the the Native American guy who's just gonna like sitting in stoic and doesn't really say anything, even when um who is it?
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Who is it?
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Um I've got all the names written in here.
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Poncho is telling him the joke.
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I'll try to tell him a joke, and he's just that scene in the helicopter helicopter who's telling him the joke, aye, and he just he's up to explain himself.
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It's just great, aye, and then that's that's there you go.
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That's 45 seconds of showing each of these characters interacting with each other and you get their relationships and you get the hierarchy of the team, and you don't need anything else, not that's not even any background story or nothing, no, like you know what happened to and not anything.
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You don't need anything, that's it.
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No, so that I didn't know this, but when Predator was released, it was released to like mixed reviews in a kind of look warm box office.
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Now it's held in such a high regard, and it's like a it's I I think it's even beyond the cult classic now.
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Yeah, um absolutely, absolutely.
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So I want to get the big question out of the way first.
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Where do you think this lies in the scale of action movies of all time?
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From like what number would you put predator at?
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And why?
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It's it's I don't know what the number is gonna be in the top five.
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Right, okay.
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For me, Monsters, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Amazing Quotes, Tit Tetosterone, um and it's just pure like 80s cheese.
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That's that's enough for me.
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The top five.
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I'm I'm trying to think the top of the head.
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There's I can't compare it to any other 80s like kind of action blockbusters because they're all there.
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Yeah.
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I love them all for their own kind of each kind of interpretation style, whatever.
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So I'm just gonna put it in my top five.
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Nice.
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What about you?
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I think I would I would top five, I don't I might etch top three.
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Okay.
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Um but again, I don't know if I could put them in order because I can't put it past Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
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That might be Terminator 2 is my number one for me.
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Yeah, obviously.
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That's my number one.
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But see when like Lethal Weapon, Die Hard.
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Yeah.
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Um, God, there's so many.
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Um like Bloodsport, Kitboxer.
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Blood Sport would be in my top three, four, maybe as well.
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So I'll write, okay.
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You've helped me out here.
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We'll go I'm going to T2 Blood Sport um and Predator.
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I'm ha I'm happy with that choice.
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That's good.
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That's a good choice.
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Lethal Weapon Fourth.
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Lethal Weapon's definitely, definitely up there for me.
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Um love Die Hard, but I there's other movies that I prefer over Die Hard, but yeah.
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I'm not odd.
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I would, I would, I don't even think Die Hard's the best Die Hard movie.
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I think Die Hard with a Vengeance is the best Die Hard movie.
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Samuel Jackson, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um maybe that's because I don't know why that is.
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I just I just prefer that one.
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Maybe I've seen it first, I don't know.
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Um but I'm trying to think, what are the 80s?
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There was loads, what commando had came out as well.
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All the Stallone films, the Rambo.
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I love Tangle.
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And this is the thing as well, but behind all the scenes and all this kind of stuff as well.
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So um Arnie's obviously him and oh god, what's his character name, Impredator?
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The other big guy Impredator, the one with the spitting the tobacco, uh the tobacco again.
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What's his character?
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Oh Blaine, Jesse the Blood Ventura.
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Aye, so him and Arnie behind the scenes were like competing against each other at the time, who was gonna be bigger and all that.
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But even behind that, like Arnie and Stallone had a rivalry as well.
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Like each film they were gonna be in, who's gonna have the bigger knife, who was gonna because fucking Arnie's carrying like later on the movie, he's carrying a minigun that would sit on a helicopter, exactly, isn't it?
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So there was all this background beef going on as well.
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What I really appreciate about Predator, I was gonna ask you, did you know?
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Did so did you know there was a different predator design before the movie came out and who was playing the Predator?
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So it was John Claude Van Damme, and the design of the suit was just absolutely awful as well.
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It kind of looked like a preying mantis, it was kind of red, and he just couldn't run about it.
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So obviously, John Claude Van Damme was new into the he was an unknown, yeah, but he obviously thought of himself as higher and wanting to be you know this big action star, and he's obviously Arnie's not gonna let him take that mantle, so and he's he's playing he's playing this monster, but obviously it didn't go well.
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The the design of the suit was absolutely awful, and that's when like Stan Winston's studios got involved.
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I don't think Stan Winston's uh studios designed the original suit, the Prayne Mattness looking one.
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I'm pretty sure that they knew it wasn't gonna work, and they got Stan Winston involved, and then they him and his team designed the new the new suit of what it looks like today, and they got I forget his name.
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This is what I was should have researched, not researched, just googled up the guy who played Predator, his name was Peter something, and he was like seven foot tall.
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Uh-huh.
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Um he played Predator Kevin Peter Hall, and he died very young as well.
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He died very young, but he also played the alien in Alien, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So um, yeah, just love the the back the background story to how Predator became what it is today, and with Stan Winston's uh involvement and practical because it's heavy practical effects.
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Oh, absolutely, heavy, and the monster, the the the monster creation, the creature creation, and how they've they've created this like animatronic um they're just the mouthpiece, the moot the god, what you call them, what would they call what they call the fangs, the talent, whatever they're called, uh just all that those kind of remote robotic animatronics and stuff like that.
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It looks it looks unbelievable today.
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Like you you would not class that as like practical effects, it looks so real compared to the recent Predator movies now.
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They really relying on CGI, oh are they yeah, I don't know.
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Heavily they've they've tried, no, they they have tried using practical effects.
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So the the Predator they had a practical guy in a suit, no, not the Predator, uh Prey.
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They had a practical guy in the suit, they shot all the scenes, but they still CGI'd a lot of it over.
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And what was the the most recent Predator movie?
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Badlands, yeah, just completely CGI'd it.
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No, just not just did not enjoy it.
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Um so yeah, so Pred Predator to me, the original with the original practical effects, just it holds up compared to all the other movies because they're not in they're not good compared in in my opinion, compared to the original.
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Predator too, yeah.
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Okay, but number one is uh is where it's at.
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Yeah, but aye, absolutely.
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Um right, so even the the heat the heat signature and all that kind of stuff as well.
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There's just so much to talk about this movie.
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I know.
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So this is what is to kind of term that is a horror movie, uh sorry, uh a war movie that turns into a horror movie, which is a very clever I don't know if it's a trope, but it's a very clever plot device, maybe even as a plot device, I don't know what the fuck that is.
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Um but it's cool to go from this action packed, oh we need to go in and and take these guys out.
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But as soon as we see Jim Hopper skinned alive inside his chopper, yeah, boom, this is not gorillas anymore.
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This is something else is is happening.
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We know that because we've we've seen the predator get shot in at the start of the film, yeah.
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But it's seeing big machismo action heroes, every single one of these guys would have been the main good guy in their film, but instantly get turned into the prey, which is obviously the film's called Predator, but these you're because it's like a it's a it's a twist in the in the trope because you're not expecting big burly guys, you're not expecting Arnold to be on his heels, and it's him almost playing against hype, but playing against type in such a macho way where they still don't give a fuck.
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No, and I just there's there's and what is good about this as well is it is kind of slasher-esque where the team get killed off one by one, and it's not just a big boom fight, and then it's Arnold against the guy at the back.
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It's and you don't see the creature as well, you don't see the creature at all, and he does Arnold almost again, probably kind of going against type a wee, but he doesn't want to come into conflict with the predator, he's trying to get to the chopper, he wants to get out exactly.
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He wants to get out, and that's that's again there's so many things, so many wee things playing against type here for the games, but one of the things that doesn't he play against type, again, we've spoken about it, is how macho everybody is, and how everybody's carrying you know 50 kilograms of weapons in the rainforest, they're just trying to outdo each other and who who do you think then in this film has got the best death scene?
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Because spoiler almost everybody dies another favourite for two reasons, uh his favourite sequence for two reasons is Dylan's death where he gets both arms shot off.
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Yes, yes, okay.
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For one, I've kind of spoken about earlier on, it's when um there's so much posing in this film, and Arnold throws him his the automatic gun, and then Dylan catches it, and he's like full six-pack shredded pecs are tearing guns or like that, and he catches it and he poses for about three seconds just after he catches the weapon, so everybody can see his muscle.
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Fucking love it.
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Um and it's just it's just uh it's such a cool line as well.
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It's like uh Dutch is like you're you're not gonna win, and Dylan's like, no, but maybe I can get even.
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Yes, big man's gone to his death, doesn't he care about it?
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Absolutely, man.
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And uh it was just the whole that effect of of um when he gets shot and his arm gets blown off and the the fingers still pull on the trigger, it's so believable because it's obviously he's he's got his arm and then it's all kind of like plastered over the top or whatever, but it looks like fucking million bucks.
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Let's come up with these most fucking blood curdling, like ridiculous deaths, and just show off all these amazing effects.
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And as gory as it is, it's not as gory as you remember it to be because all the deaths are kind of like the exclamation point, is it cuts back to the rest of the group and you just hear the scream, yeah, like like Billy's uh death scene.
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It happens off camera, and it's just him, he stands on the bridge uh the big log and he cuts himself with his fucking machete across his chest, and then all you hear is and then the predator's got his like spinal cord with it and ripped his back, yes.
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One of the most iconic scenes from Predator, he's written at the spin.
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It's just the predator that just the sound.
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Do you know who done that who done the voice of that as well?
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Who's that?
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Peter Cullen, who played Optimus Prime, yeah.
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I was like, no way.
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I found out a few years ago.
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I was like, no way.
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You got paid just to do just to brilliant, and it's just a movie full of absolutely fucking obscene quotes made.
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That's what and that's because they knew that that's what works with Arnie, uh Arnie, and they just went with it.
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The bit when they're in the village with the wee um the the wee commando guys or whatever, and he's just throws the knife, booms, stick around.
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Just all he's just cut, and it just it looks it shit zooms in on his face, and you're like, Yes, you're just you're just going for it, mate.
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That's like the the camera work in this film is amazing as well.
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It just it falls everything, it's such it's so like tight net and it's so close and it's so claustrophobic, and it and it's always everybody's always standing, obviously by design, we're like the kind of trees right at their shoulders, it's almost if they're kind of like stuck like sardines in this jungle, in this roasting hot jungle, and everybody's sweating and it looks looks uncomfortable.
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And they frame that in such a way to me, anyway.
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Uh huh.
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We try and squeeze everybody in as much as you can so it feels can be guys like guys, like guys, and um that that first scene where they get to the campsite is get one of my favourite lines in the full film, and it's Blaine.
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I ain't got time to bleed.
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Yes, you're bleeding.
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I ain't got time to bleed.
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Yeah, um, there's there's so I I don't know why to start and stop jumping in with these quotes.
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We should have just gone with the quotes with the quotes because what's your favourite quote from the movie?
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Wait, that's a tough one.
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My one of my favourite quote, but one of my favourite parts in the movie is when the predators have been chasing them for all this time throughout the movie to kill them all, and he's like proper going for them, and then that one time that Arnold's ready to go for it, and the predators kind of sussed it out, and he's like, Look at me, come for me, come kill me now, come for me now.
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I just I just love it.
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I was cracked, I was pissing myself laughing.
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That's one of my favourite scenes in the movie.
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It's so cool because I I remember watching this and coming to the realisation at the same time as Arnold as Dutch when he jumps off into the river and he gets covered in mud, into the mud, yeah.
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I can see him and he kinda I was like, Oh yeah, exactly.
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Um, but no, one one of my favourite quotes is um is is Billy actually.
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He's like, There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man, you know.
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Bullshit, you were afraid of no man.
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I love that.
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I also love Dutchies uh because me and my mate Dave uh go back and forward with predator quotes, and one ever it's just Mac Mac Mac and then someone made this YouTube video, all these arrow quotes, and it's just predators like Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac's such a good character this because he's he's a fucking psychopath.
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Because after Blaine dies and he's having that conversation with him like in the moonlight, and he's talking about how the two of them were brothers and all that, uh-huh.
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And then one of the few best lines in that I think is such a good line is like, I'm gonna cut your name right in him.
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What a fucking line.
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And then um when he's chasing after the predator and he's singing uh uh uh long tail Sally and he's just he's gonna go, I'm gonna have me some fun, and he's fucking he's he's gone through, he's in a trance now, he's like tunnel vision and he's knackled and he's like, I'm gonna have me because he starts singing, long tail Sally, and then he's just gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun.
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I'm like fucking hell.
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Big man's mind's delusional, man.
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He's he's he's such an underrated character in the whole thing.
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Because he's got so many good scenes when um the predator steals his voice, obviously, and he goes, I'm just gonna talk about that, yeah.
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And he and he he steals his laugh, and he's in he's in the in the tree.
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And he's in camera for the floor.
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Just before Dylan sees him, and and um and uh Matt grabs Dylan and then he points up.
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What else?
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The end with the face reveal.
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That's classic you were not expecting that that look and the quote and you are what ugly motherfucker.
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I just wow.
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I know what a beautiful creature design.
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Absolutely beautiful creature design.
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It was great.
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Aye, no, I absolutely agree.
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What a very technical, complicated suit that they designed and they made, and it's got so many layers to it.
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It's not just like his skin, yeah.
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There's that kind of fish neck to it, and there's the kind of the spots as well, and then the armour on top of it, and the gun on the shoulder, yeah, the helmet, the face, the also the don't know what to call those dreadlocks, yeah.
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Everything it was just beautifully designed and crafted, that suit that he was designed for.
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What I like a lot about the predator design, it was it was like obviously futuristic because it's like advanced tech, yeah, but it was also like reminiscent enough of like current era technology.
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See where he's plastering himself up and he's got the weak gun and like the scissors and stuff like that, and it's is it's doing something to him, but we can recognise what it is he's trying to do, he's trying to heal himself.
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So they didn't go with like laser beams or anything to try and cover himself up.
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It's a fucking weak blood stitches, yeah.
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Yeah, and the green blood was a great effect, and again, the quote, if it bleeds, we can kill it, yeah.
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And it's just like the green blood was just a cool effect, like again, like what they done with the alien um with the yellow blood and all that.
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It's just everything is so kind of I don't know, um everything just blends in at that time and the looks that they've got with like Robocop alien and predator, you know.
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It's just when you think of these characters, you think of the 80s, yeah.
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It's just uh it's just that it's it's got it's just an 80s mind design kind of I don't know, it's that kind of 80s culture when you think of the things that were going through and they were coming up with these what they thought what the future was gonna look like.
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Aye, definitely, but setting such a like it's not like setting a dystopian future, it's just like it's Cambodia, it's setting the rainforest, setting the jungle, which which adds to its strength.
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I would I would assume from a production standpoint, because you don't need sets, you don't need to think about how they're gonna get from A to B to C and all that stuff because they're they're stuck in the jungle, and and it's just it's such a well-crafted, well put together film, like like production design-wise, I think, anyway, because it's it's the jungle, you can do what you want.
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I think and there's there's very few, which I thought was amazing, such a like testament to this film as well.
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I noticed only a handful of like matte paintings or like reprojection.
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There's reprojection at the very start in the helicopter sort of thing, and then there's one where um it's like it's well it's animated, never noticed it's uh where Dutch is up on um some sort of platform and way in the distance, there's like a river, uh-huh, and that's kind of matte painted as well.
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But it's it's animated and it's fine.
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Uh-huh.
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Um, but there's there's like three examples, the rest of it is just explosions because especially um when Dutch booby traps his Wii area, none of that's CGI, that's all real explosive.
00:25:20.319 --> 00:26:04.880
Again, that was one of my favourite parts of the movies when Arnie becomes Dutch becomes the predator, yeah, and he's now ready to hunt the you know, hunt the monster and stuff, and it's good seeing that transition with the you know the um how the tables have turned uh exactly and he's preferring and but he's got no technology, he's getting he's just got his noggin here and a big fucking huge knife, and he's just setting all these booby traps and stuff all over, and it's things that we've been drip fed from the start about how these guys did their jobs in um what it might I don't know if it was Burma Burma and then Berlin and then Libya, and they they drop all these wee names, and it's like these guys have been in this situation a hundred times, and it's just building on that experience.
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:14.640
That's why, even in the crux of everything, even when everybody's at the very end, apart from Mac when he goes a wee bit of psycho, Nabi loses their cool.
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Like, like I said, Dylan is uh maybe they'll I'll get even then if I kind of beat him, everybody's just fucking switched on and switches back to that.
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:29.119
I don't want to say heroism, but it might be heroism, but that just being hard, yeah.
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That's what I like about it, or just fucking hard.
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:42.480
Not taking themselves too seriously, I like and that's the good thing because you don't see if you inject any of this modern humour into a film like the Predator, it falls on its arse.
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Totally.
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It does no work.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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Um, and if you if you even have uh even an inkling of them like not taking this as seriously as it needs to be taken, because these I I feel as if these actors in these roles are treating this like it is a thriller drama film, as a as a it's a Vietnam film, as a war film, it just happens to be that they're fucking jacked and is a predator that's after them, but they take it real world seriously, absolutely, and that's that's something that is solely missing from modern world.
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The character we've missed out is the the female, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Female as well.
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:32.799
Um Anna El Pida Carillo, she uh but she serves as like such an important character, she's she's um because she tells them about the history of the predator when it's really really warm, the the demon or whatever it is comes from the sky and and people turn up skinned.
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So she's like, this has happened before, yeah, and and we get those wee insights because she's the first person to say, Oh, the forest came alive, yeah, sort of thing.
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:51.279
What yeah, and she almost like as our guide through this world, so you need that character that otherwise they're all just winning.
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She's trying to interpret what she's what what she's seen, but she can't she can't describe it in a way for them to understand or for ourselves to understand, so we're having to go along with her throughout the movie to find out what what is really going on.
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:09.599
And we need to be we need to pass these certain things, like where who's the first one to go?
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.240
Hawkins, and that the his body goes missing.
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:13.519
What the hell happened to Hawkins?
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:22.480
And then that's the first kind of inkling that something's no right, and then when his uh Poncho gets like the the log slapped off, yeah.
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.480
Something's no right there, and then when I think Billy's the next one to die.
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Is he?
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:35.039
No, Blaine, sorry, when Blaine dies, uh Jesse Ventura, Hawkins and Blaine are definitely the least eventful because they just disappear, don't they?
00:28:35.359 --> 00:29:09.359
And Billy Billy's is just such a kill death because he fucking steers the thing down and cuts like I said, and then we don't see just ah and uh Dylan as well, and then Mac is the first time we see the wee three red dots, is the aiming thing, yeah, because it's in his arm, and then it turns round and it's three dots, and you see the hole through his head, and then at the end, uh at the end with the predators like dying, and yeah, and then he's pressing the hang on like what's going on here, and he's just does a and I'm like, what the fuck's going on, right?
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.759
Um and then the girl gets the get the girl gets the safety, doesn't she?
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.400
She gets away in the helicopter and uh Dutch get to the chopper.
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.400
They get to the chopper, and God, I can't believe I'm I'm asking this.
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Does Dutch is Dutch and the Chopper with them?
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:24.880
Mm-hmm.
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.160
Alright, okay.
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.920
It's been a while since I seen it, even though I had it on yesterday.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.559
I'm just like, can I I'm just trying to remember something because I'm like, did he not run away in the jungle?
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:34.960
No.
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.559
So he gets away with I'm sure he gets away with right, aye.
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:46.319
But again, just all that technology that was used, the practical effects, the just all these small weird kind of notes and stuff that was used.
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:53.119
I just I love the practical effects of the movie and the story behind how it was made to what it is now with the creature design.
00:29:53.359 --> 00:30:01.119
I think the the standout thing for me in this film isn't anything to do with like story or cinematography or production or that.
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.039
It's the characters themselves, yeah.
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It's the the close knit and it's how everybody with such a short amount of screen time has got their own like identifiable character traits.
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Like I I think Billy's such a cool character because he's he's the exact opposite to everybody else.
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He's quiet, he's the kind of like Native American sort of thing, and he he's like looking out for tracks and he's like uh six girls walked in wearing US Army boots, and then none of them walked out, and and that's just like this doesn't make any sense.
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.640
And Billy's just so quiet, uh-huh.
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:36.480
Um and everybody else is kind of like puffing their chest and and and being bravado and peacock and stuff like that.
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:43.279
Just like everybody's individually I don't understand why it wasn't a big hit.
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.559
I don't know why it wasn't a big hit, but like I think it was just new for I don't know, maybe for its time.
00:30:49.759 --> 00:31:03.440
Again, what I liked about it again in the sequels, Predator 2, um it's just like there's now becoming these timelines of when these predators are appearing throughout human history, um, which I really like can appreciated.
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:14.880
Like it's not just this one place and one time they're going, they're they're they're coming through different times for history and how the other movies are doing a kind of love note to the other predator movies.
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:24.480
Although they've they're they're nothing compared to what the original was in terms of they're they're straying away from the original predator design.
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.119
I don't like it.
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:31.359
I don't like the new designs, then the looks of the predators that they're coming up with, and how they've got all these they've got all these individual looks.
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:40.240
I just I prefer just the original look of the predator, but they're coming up with all these different designs of the faces, the is it mandifolds, is that what they're called?
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.400
I forget, I don't know the name by the the dreads like the uh Badlands.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:52.160
The design on the on that one is just awful now, and just how they're incorporating the Wu Tang uh industries.
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.279
The what are they called?
00:31:53.359 --> 00:32:04.160
Uh Whalen Industries, sorry, Wu Tang coming and Wu Tang clan they want my own Wayland industries that they're incorporating that and how it's all part of the same thing, and like Alien versus Predator as well.
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.759
I just like I don't associate those movies with Predator.
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:17.119
I I like to think of Predator as a standalone movie, maybe Predator 2 as well, but nah, I like I prefer it as a standalone movie.
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:31.440
I don't like to relate into the that's the unfortunate thing about essentially every cash, every eye, every movie that every franchise, like there's very, very few where you get a film that is better than the first one.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:46.799
I would say well there's 10 minutes to obviously them arguably, but I don't know if I'm in this camp aliens because it's such a different I prefer aliens, I think it's James Cameron, I know just yeah, it's just the James Cameron vibes, yeah.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:33:02.079
Um and then there's there's like to me, I prefer Lethal Weapon 2 to Lethal Weapon, first one, yeah, just because I think they really hit their stride with the comedic and action and dramatic tone.
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:13.039
The first one was a bit serious, yeah, and it was cool for what it was, but I think the the characters really come into their own in Lethal Weapon 2, and then that's I mean everyone else again is as well.
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:18.880
Go back to the 80s, like we were talking about um original predator design, it flopped.
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:24.000
Stan Winston Studios got involved, um, we're talking about James Cameron, the aliens again.
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.720
I'm pretty sure it was Stan Winston that was involved.
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.559
Terminator 2, Stan Winston Studios involved, predator, Stan Winston.
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:47.599
So it's just these collaborations of these artists coming together that makes that's made these movies stand out for what they were because they've got these really talented guys and ladies all coming on and making these fucking they're just you know giving other blood, sweat, and tears for these movies.
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:53.039
So it just when you think back and you think about who worked on these movies, you say, ah right, that's why it stuck out.
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:59.200
This is why I prefer Alien because uh yeah, it was James Cameron, but he's also like got Stan Winston involved.
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.799
That's that's it because they've they've they're they're pushing the envelope, yeah.
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:12.639
You know, and they're just you know they're they're going crazy with the right, we're gonna we're gonna attempt this and look at the Terminator 2, look at the effects after what 30 odd years, and it still holds up today.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:20.159
Yeah, I I actually watched a video on Terminator 2 and I did not realise how much of it was practical.
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:29.199
It's unbelievably crazy how practical it was and how many different concepts and designs for each scene that they made, especially for the T1000.
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:30.400
Yeah, that was something new.
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.800
That was and that was when his CGI was kind of obviously Jurassic Park.
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:34.960
Yeah.
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.000
No, no, hold on.
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:36.880
Was it Jurassic Park?
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.679
No, it would be T it was T2, that's why they were hired for Jurassic Park.
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.519
Jurassic Park's 93, 94.
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.079
Yeah, T2 was 91, I believe.
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.440
1990 or 1991, yes, it was 91.
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:49.440
I think 919.
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.719
I because I think uh it was 10 years after the first Terminator, right?
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:08.880
Um, I believe, and that was when they first were toying around with CGI with um T1000 going through the prison bar, yeah, the the bars and the the cells and stuff, and that you know, and either got hired for Jurassic Park for that.
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:26.320
So they were just pushing boundaries and all facts like the special effects, but it was this liquid metal look, and it's the puppets that they got involved in the shots and the ballistics are how it's gonna look, and wow, and the the shot where the T1000 is completely frozen, and however they were what do you think is the most 80s moment in the film?
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.719
Most 80s moment, there's so many.
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.840
That's fucking so right.
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:47.440
First of all, the handshake handshake, yes, right, the handshake, and then between the handshake and it's this fucking the the guns man Blaine's big fucking massive gun.
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.639
I can I I hate that I can't remember what the name of the gun is.
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.639
Old painless, old painless, right?
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.639
Blaine's gun name is old painless.
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:57.840
What the fuck does that mean?
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:08.400
Um because Max says maybe time to bring out old painless and then aye, and when they fucking tear away half the jungle by just, yeah.
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:09.599
Was it a minigun?
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.519
Aye, well it was a minigun, wasn't it?
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:12.719
Aye, it was a minigun.
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.639
And then doesn't when was it uh when does uh Arnie get to use a minigun?
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.159
Like uh T2 he used one.
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.559
Did he use one in commando as well?
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.920
No, no, he's got a big rocking creature.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.880
He used in fact he used fucking everyone in commando.
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:38.400
Commando's a great film, um but I uh Blaine uses it and then Mac uses it to just shoot after after Blaine gets killed, and he's like, I've got 200 rounds in it.
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:40.719
Shooting into thin air.
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.119
Aye, no, no, no man could survive that.
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.000
What a what a film.
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:47.519
What's your favourite?
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679
It's got to be it's got to be the handshake.
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.400
The handshake, yeah.
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.079
One of the most iconic handshakes in cinema history, especially with that.
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.920
I love that part uh Orange Polo, and it's just I mean busting through it.
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:10.480
Biceps busting, and then yeah, what's in that uh CIA and too many pencils, no, there's just so many, it's just such a quotable movie, no, and I just love quoting the fuck out of it.
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:20.239
It is, but it's again something that's not necessarily against type because it's because Arnold doesn't really have a type, to be honest with you.
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:30.239
I don't think anyway, I think he's a very versatile actor, and some people always snigger at that, but I really do think he is, he's got his brand, but he's able to be versatile in different roles.
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.079
He's not playing the same character or like like unlike Dwayne Johnson or um Jason Stevens.
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:57.760
Yes, um, and this this is like a a more in like a more intelligent version of what you would expect him to be, this muscle-bound guy, but he uses his wits and he relies in his experience, and he doesn't just go head first into it because he's like, No, let's take our time, let's not engage, let's be smart about this, let's you know circle back, five meter spread, all that sort of shit.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:06.000
And it's just it's such a it's great way to not be all guns blazing, but at the same time, when when it needs to be, it's a full-on fucking act.
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:06.719
I love about him.
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:13.199
He's such a versatile act, he's very intelligent in how he got to where he is today with his roles and how he's picked his roles.
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:27.440
Like um, you know, he wants to be the lead action man, he what did he do like Conan, and then he's done like Red Heat and Raw dealing, all that kind of stuff, and he's playing all these different characters, same character, but again, it's so versatile.
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:39.599
Then we've got him in Dutch, and uh then we've got Commando, then he's playing the Terminator, and he originally was never meant to play the Terminator, he's meant to play Kyle OJ Simpson was meant to play the Terminator, so yeah, that's uh that's a weird story.
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:52.639
Um so I and I love that because he's wanted to be the leading man, but he's like, No, he's gonna play he's he's now playing the the villain, exactly, and then and then T2 is now the hero, and it's but he's a different type of hero, yeah.
00:38:52.800 --> 00:39:02.960
And then like when he when he conquered the action world, he went and conquered the comedy world as well with kindergarten cop and jingle of the way twins and junior and stuff like that.
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.119
But he's he's Junior was weirdest.
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:16.960
Um but like I Arnold is such a great like a lot of people intimidate the voice and the quotes and stuff like that, but I don't think they really appreciate and they make that's the again.
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.800
Modern audiences make fun of what once upon a time was cool, yeah.
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.599
And I just I that doesn't sit right with me with films that I enjoy cool, yeah.
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:34.559
They were cool, like compared to action movies today, they have nothing on memorable about them whatsoever.
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:35.840
Nothing whatsoever.
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:42.800
There's not one single movie that I could think of of recent times that stand out compared, like Blood Sport, yeah.
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.360
There's there's nothing that compares.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.559
Like, I think the the only movie of recently that's maybe touched like the Rockies and like is Warrior.
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.760
I really love Warrior with Tom Hardy, yeah, really enjoyed that.
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.440
It was so it was beautifully done.
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:01.760
But again, like you're 2012, I am such a long time ago.
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:28.320
There's just nothing that compared to you to your Rockies and your your blood sport, but blood sport is just because again, not to get too political on everybody, but nobody likes quote unquote toxic masculinity anymore, it's not invoked, you're not allowed to be manly in in that way that that's not seen as being an acceptable way to be manly, to be you know this peer pressure, muscle, and beat people up and stuff like that.
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.000
So that's that's a maybe a bit of a lot of people.
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:45.920
And then they're obviously again, nothing about feminism here or anything like that, but they're trying to push the female roles into into what was the male roles of those times as well, and I don't know, and then we're kind of snowflaking, then we're walking, yeah.
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.159
It's just went a bit the last 10-15 years, has just been a bit of a mess.
00:40:50.480 --> 00:41:18.639
I I don't like I say, I don't mind of course I don't mind enjoy like a a well-written action drama, whatever female character, but replaced in what they've done since about 2015 is just treat women or write women like men, uh-huh, put women in men's roles and and expect them to be the men the men that's they don't act the same.
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.760
Yeah, they from their core button.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:26.480
But Sigoni Weaver executed it perfectly in Alien and Alien.
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:26.880
Exactly.
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:35.360
There's some even in like people say, Oh, you all you can talk about is Linda Hamilton in Terminator or Sigony Weaver or Princess Leigh.
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:44.239
We've got people like Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow, which again is quite an old film now, but she's a kick-ass action hero who didn't even need to no, she she doesn't need to be anybody else but herself.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:45.039
No, exactly.
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.320
So great acting, yeah.
00:41:46.719 --> 00:42:03.920
I think she was actually one of the ones that said came out um she's like anytime I read a script and it says strong female lead, she just throws it away because it's it's because they know it's men writing male characters but they're casting women in the roles and it doesn't work.
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.760
Sorry guys, it it doesn't work, it doesn't it?
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.960
Um ask Disney Marvel who have lost ten billion dollars.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.880
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, yeah.
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:19.599
And it's it and I think we're just we need to stop taking it too seriously when we're watching these movies and who they're casting, just have fun with it.
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:27.360
Stop being worried about who you're going to offend because that's where that's why it's where it's going downhill.
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:34.159
I know just they were made for fun, it was they weren't harming anybody, they weren't you know offending anybody, yeah.
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:39.440
It was all fun, it was just of its time, and now we've got to watch every single step.
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.920
I know when it goes into movie making.
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:58.159
I think that's um to the detriment of the studio system because I'd like the way I'm seeing things online, Hollywood isn't they gonna exist in the next X amount of years, it's all gonna be quote unquote content creators that build their own audience online and release the movies that way.
00:42:58.480 --> 00:42:59.519
Well, it's already happening, yeah.
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:04.400
Big studios are they're not gay, we're talking about like um obsession.
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:06.800
Um, what was the backrooms again?
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:11.360
Yeah, YouTube directors are now taking you don't need to go to film school, they're taking it upon themselves.
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.159
All they need is a a producer, so I'm giving some money and go out and make this movie.
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.679
Yeah, we'll we'll we'll get our own team, we'll build our own studio from it.
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.559
We'll we don't even need to get a studio, we'll just build our own sets and make our own movie.
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.679
Same with artists these days, they don't need the music producer or anything to do it.
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:32.000
Like they've just got they've got Spotify, that's it, and they can just release whatever they want.
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:39.920
That's what it's becoming now because they have taken advantage of these artists and they've fucked it up just because they're greedy fucking corporate bastards.
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:41.119
Exactly, it's the same thing.
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:42.239
Wait, and I'm gonna talk about it.
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:51.679
Getting political now and AI, it's yeah, yeah, it's people who aren't creative that are dictating what creative people do, yeah.
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.920
Just all these different aspects that are coming in, they're taking these opportunities our way.
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:14.239
And I believe that we are coming into a new age of a new renaissance that's gonna come from this where we are gonna fight back and we're gonna take back what's ours and we'll produce our own movies, our own music, and make our own art.
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:14.639
Yeah.
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:16.079
Um because fuck the system.
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.639
Exactly.
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.800
And fuck the corporate greedy bastards.
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:30.000
And yeah, and fuck everybody that uses AI to make music and make uh generated images and make fucking films and fucking what's his name?
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.239
Danny Boyle, who put uh AI generation in his latest film.
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:35.119
Yeah, Eli Rod.
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.679
Add him to the list, he's gonna go fuck yourselves.
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:44.480
Again, I said it in the last one, it's such a pulling the ladder up behind you, yeah, dick move.
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:44.880
Uh-huh.
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:57.039
But like I said, there's a new renaissance coming, yeah, and we're gonna take back what's what's ours, and there's gonna be some new amazing, beautiful, creative movies that will be coming out in the near future.
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.280
So AI's bleeding, it is, and if it bleeds, we can kill it.
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.800
And on that note, then I guess we're done.
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:05.519
I guess we're done.
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.000
That was Predator, not a lot of talk about Predator.
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.599
There's a lot of talk about Predator, a lot of quite predator quotes, but well.
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Hope you enjoyed guys.
