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Hey, hey, hey, book lovers.
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Welcome to Plot on the Rocks, the podcast where representation is crucial and it's always for the plot.
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We're your hosts, Alicia Rikia, and Tia.
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Three friends dedicated to honoring the brilliance and the power of black and POC authors.
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We got some hot take, some spoilers, don't worry, we'll always warn you, and deep combos on culture, identity, and everything in between.
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Grab your favorite drink, curl up with us, and let's talk books.
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The ones that move us, excite us, and keep us whipping pages way past our bedtime.
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So lower your expectations and let's get into the plot.
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Hello everybody, welcome back to Plot on the Rocks.
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If you're listening at home and we sound a little bit different, it's because we were filming a person for the first time.
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So the audio might not be great, but still listen.
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Still listen.
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Oh my god.
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We're gonna try to, you know, still sound good.
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But you know, I don't, I just we just don't know how it's gonna be.
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Yeah.
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You know, my man said you want to do this.
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So that's just what I was saying.
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But with that being said, if you usually listen to us on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or um Cast FM, please watch this on YouTube just so you can see us, you know, because like who knows if we get to do this again.
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Right now, that's true.
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We'd be busy as hell.
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Um yeah, but we're super excited.
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Yeah, it's okay to take it away.
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What's it?
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Yes.
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This book is gonna be by the infamous Quan Mills.
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This whole got roaches in her crib.
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Okay.
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Just after the title, y'all already know it's gonna be.
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Let's take a breath.
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Let's take a breath.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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Yes, it is whole.
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This whole got roaches in her crib.
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Okay.
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Now I know, I know it sounds crazy, but like, I just I don't know.
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Okay, so I don't know about y'all, but whenever I see him online, the comments are always one or two things disgust, yes, or somebody saying, Yes, the titles are crazy, but the book itself is actually good.
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Okay, this is true.
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The book was not what I expected from the title.
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Completely 180.
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Yes.
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And so that's why we wanted to read it.
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We were like, okay, let's give it a chance.
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Let's just see, you know.
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We trying to, you know, we're trying to read a variety of different books.
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Yeah.
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Expand our horizons.
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So yeah, we read it.
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And okay, what was what was y'all to do first?
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Um, I I guess I think okay, let's let's just talk about our initial introduction to the book and then how we felt going through the book.
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Okay.
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Oh, you're looking at me.
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It's my I didn't think I could finish it.
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Like honestly, a few pages in, I was like, I was absolutely disgusted by Fisha, by her house.
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Um the there was a spicy scene in it.
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I don't think I've ever been disgusted by the spicy scene in my whole entire life.
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I was I I fast forwarded it.
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I was like, no, absolutely not.
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But would I read one of his books again?
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No.
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I did it.
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I was what is that?
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What's that just about?
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I've seen all I need to see.
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And I'm I was interested.
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Yes, yes.
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What about your repeal?
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I agree.
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Those first couple pages, utter disgust.
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That spicy scene, what she said she did on the sheet had a common decided to brush her teeth first.
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So nasty ho.
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Nasty.
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Nasty.
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Nasty put some clothes on.
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She's nasty.
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Oh my gosh.
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But it was it was some I did laugh.
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I laughed a lot in it.
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I did, yeah.
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And there was a lot of parts that made me actually sad.
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Yeah.
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Especially for the kids.
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Yes.
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And would I read another book?
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If I was in the mood, if I was in the mood for like some real mess, I would.
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I did see one earlier today called That Thought Next Door or Old Thought.
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Old Thought.
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And I heard it was good.
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It was good.
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I I was also disgusted by the beginning.
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And I think if if you guys ever read this book, my advice, and I took I was the first one to read it.
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Yeah.
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So my advice to them was read the first chapter or two and then put it down.
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Yes.
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That's all you're gonna be able to do anyway.
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Just put it down when it gets too much and then come back later.
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Okay, I'll thank you.
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That cover is crazy.
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Wait, how many clinks did you give it?
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Out of five.
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Mm-hmm.
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Out of five, I'm gonna give it a damn.
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3.5.
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3.5.
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I'm gonna say it was a good, it was, it was crazy, yes.
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Nasty, yes, but the story itself, once I was into it, it grabbed me.
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Yeah, I was emotionally invested.
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Yes, it's true.
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I'll give it solid three.
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Solid three.
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You don't understand rating things low anyway.
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Let's give it a two.
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Let's give it a two.
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There was there was too much.
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You could tell it was self-edited.
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You could tell it was self-edited.
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Because there were a lot of mistakes in there that he didn't go back and double check, so that kind of bothered me.
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But after a while, I was like, you know, I know what he I know what he means by that.
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And then I think towards the tail end, I I fast forwarded a bit when what's what's what's the little girl's name?
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Maya.
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Maya, when she was in the hospital.
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Yeah.
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Because at the end of the book, at the end of the book, it was just they were just it was a half-a page of prayers.
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I don't want to read that.
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Okay, I get it.
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She's in the hospital.
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It's almost like he ran out of stuff to say.
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She was like, Yeah, we're just hard.
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You know what it felt like to me?
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Okay, actually, before we get into that, let me do let's do two things.
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Let's do a synopsis.
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Okay.
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So in the book, okay, we are introduced to Frankricia and her three children.
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Maya is the only daughter.
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She also has two summits.
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The sunmits are favored.
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Maya is abused, and I mean actually abused is actually really bad.
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Yeah.
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Um, Francretia is very nasty, her house is very deep, the roaches are sentient.
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They talk.
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I mean, they are actually judging Franquisha in her house as they're looking for food in her house.
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So this is true.
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Franquisha's baby's father, Austin, is in prison.
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Yes.
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But Austin is a good guy.
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He's a good guy, bad circumstances, you know, comic story.
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His mother loves Maya.
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Franquisha, being her messy still, does not let Maya go with her very much.
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She doesn't like her, but she lets her go this time because she wants to get into cement.
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She wants to go party.
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She gotta get rid of Maya.
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So she lets her go.
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Maya basically discloses to her grandmother that she's being abused and they tried to save her.
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Um CPS gets involved with the whole thing, and I'm gonna just read it for the rest.
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But it was I I thought it was a good one.
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Now I have to remember what was the second thing.
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Oh, you got it.
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Oh my god.
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Please pick it in.
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I made us all peach and gorilla.
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It's it's good.
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Yeah.
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She made this from me.
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She made it too star.
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Yeah.
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So peach syrup.
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What I do?
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Same measurement for the sugar and then water, and then I chopped up some peaches, cinnamon, nutmeg.
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Be on the lookout for it.
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Yeah, yes.
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Yes, please.
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Yes, it is very good.
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It is good.
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I'm about to buy some through.
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I'm just wine gives me a headache.
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When I'm drinking it, I'm also drinking an Anchor Orchard hard cider.
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I always try it when I'm eating a burger.
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Yeah, some beer.
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I don't really like beer, but they have to do.
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Yeah, this is like beer.
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So I can have it.
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Yeah.
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I used to buy the 12x.
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Yeah.
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Oh, the 12 packs.
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Yes.
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But because they're cheaper.
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You know, a couple nights a week or whatever.
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I like the bulb rock ones too.
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The bull rock.
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I saw that.
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They're tasting like they're good.
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They have different like blackberry.
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I saw I was looking at that one too.
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I decided to just be safe.
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Yeah, they're good.
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And get this one.
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I will have to try it.
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Um, okay.
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So y'all know we'll be drinking this.
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Yeah.
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It's called platform for that reason.
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Yes, yeah.
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Um okay.
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So what I was gonna say about the prayer situation and the ending of the book.
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So without giving it away, well, you know, yeah.
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Maya gets it for some reason is y'all's first time listening to this.
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We'd be spoiled.
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Yeah, so we get half halfway through.
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Maya ends up getting bit by a roach at her other grandma's house for her.
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The mean mama.
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The mean one and she gets Mr.
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Yeah.
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No, no, menagitis.
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No, menagitis, she gets menagitis.
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She gets meningitis and she's in the hospital.
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And she dies.
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Yeah, it makes her go like brain dead and everything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That pissed me off though, because I'm like, what the hell?
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This man is trying so hard to get cussy of her and then she just dies.
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It's sad.
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This is part of why I like the book, okay?
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And and maybe let's go into well, first I want to say this, okay, before I ask this question.
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Yeah, I think this book, especially towards the end, felt like a classic black movie.
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Yes, that's what I felt like.
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Yes, and that's why I I like the pregnancy.
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You get what I'm saying?
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It showed that scene that always happens in a tragic black movie where the family finally comes together and just praying.
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You get the idea?
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Like it felt it felt like I like that.
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Yeah, I like that.
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It felt nostalgic in a way.
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Yeah, um for me, I was getting bored with the book.
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Yeah.
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And then I was like, okay, whatever.
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The family prayer I liked, and then when the CPS person coming in, and it just to me, it just felt like he was he didn't have anything else to put down.
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So it was like a filler, it was like a filler part to me.
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Not the family prayer part, but the same time.
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Yes, the third time it came up, basically.
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Because even the dialogue was getting a little maybe worse.
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I um yeah, I get that.
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So I guess with that being said, um that that I think this goes into a question, which is how does this book subvert the urban fiction genre?
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Because this is urban fiction, yes, but it's a very different book that I've ever read.
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Yeah, this is true.
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I feel like it shines a little bit of a light on what people actually go through when they're either scared to talk about or ashamed to talk about.
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Because I feel like almost everybody knows somebody.
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Like, I always say her name wrong.
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Franquisha.
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Franquetia.
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Yeah, I feel like somebody knows somebody like her.
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But she got a lot of kids, she don't take care of them, her house be nasty, her kids be looking crazy, just out here doing whatever.
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And it's a lot of women out there just like her, doing whatever she can, whenever she feels like it hopping from man to man, and it's like, oh, that's horrible.
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But that's the life for a lot of people, like how they're living, like roach infested, you know, living in Section 8 and things like that.
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That is the life for a lot of people, and I feel like he kind of shined it, so it's not necessarily exclusion, but kind of like that.
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Like we we say y'all too, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think for me, like I think it was the first thing I said when I started reading it was it it was almost like it was it was over at least stereotypical.
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I think it kind of reminded me of like Fred Preacher was the what the welfare queen, not like Ronald Reagan had coined, like has been, yeah, and what people genuinely think were not, you know, like people.
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They go when they think of somebody on a black person on welfare, yeah, somebody like that.
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And I thought that, like you said, they do exist, they're there, but I think it's an overt stereotype of it, yeah, yeah.
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That it's kind of just like hmm, because even like the way that he described, I think I wrote it down too.
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There were stereotypes in it with the way he described her versus her friends, because I assumed that she was dark sin by the way he described the way her color of her lips, how she was, whatever, whatever.
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But then her friends, you in you get introduced with her friends, and one of her friends, uh Taikisha, is short, fat, black, and black, but didn't mind wearing loud, bold, neon-colored lace fronts.
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And then you have the other friend, Antoinetta, Antoinette, who's light skinned, and the way that he describes her is completely different than the way he describes Taikisha and Clarkisha.
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So he describes Antoinette as lighter skinned, she was slimmer, she was of home health age, she's going back to school to get her RN license.
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So I was like, that's interesting, yeah, to put it like that.
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So I don't know.
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Yeah, I think in one day I like after I finished it, I kind of was looking more into like his public statements about his books, and he did say that they were satire.
00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:23.840
Okay, so I mean we kind of get that because, like you said, it's overly stereotypical.
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Yes, you know, um, whatever.
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But my thing is, it's it feels like to me, this was almost like reading the other side of the urban fiction we're used to.
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Because a lot of times the books will glorify hood life, yes, and almost like all the characters are secretly wealthy.
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Yes, don't let's wonderful people.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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That's definitely put it out there.
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Yeah.
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Then if anybody's in prison, they're coming out, then they're coming out too.
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And Rose Works.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Houses are you get what I'm saying?
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Yeah, that's true.
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So it almost felt like he was like purposefully showing us the opposite.
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Like, no, this is actually like this is the bad side of what could be going down in these neighborhoods or whatever.
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And yes, it was it was overly stereotypical, but like you said, we know people, everybody knows at least one person like that.
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I feel like everybody knows somebody like Austin as well.
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So you have a promotion for a household family, you know, just came from themselves, and you decide to be a gangbanger.
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Why?
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You're not gonna go back for real.
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Yeah, yeah, find yourself in a bad situation.
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Matter of fact, find yourself in a bad mother.
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Who technically is not his favorite?
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Technically.
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Technically.
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What did you guys think of things?
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Like running around, and then all of a sudden, like my skin was and that wasn't the thing, like and for what?
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Like, why would she do if she knew?
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I'm assuming she knew that wasn't the father.
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But like, if she knew, why put him through all of that?
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He was gonna take care of him.
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Mm-hmm.
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She made sure well she once she made sure that like she didn't get custody and he and she took, and that was another stereotype too.
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Everybody thinks that people on welfare they end up taking advantage, which again they're taking advantage of the system.
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But when she used like what her mind is like a disability thing, when she wasn't disabled and took the money for that.
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I don't know.
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I think Francretia was a mess, but the one part that I felt very bad for her for was with the landlord when he pimped her out.
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I didn't that that scene made me very uncomfortable because I not that I didn't think it was necessary, but it hurt for her.
00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:03.519
Yeah.
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As much as you don't like this character, it's like it just deserves nobody for you.
00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.480
No, yeah, you're beating the shit out of her, and then you're gonna pimp her out like two seconds later.
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Yeah, but like that was advocate, she made a horrible choice.
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There's no way my baby is gonna be on basically on her deathbed, and I am going to leave her.
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Yeah, she had other outlets, like if you would have lost that crib, all y'all just would have been all about the house, or you would have hooked appropriate.
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I'm not leaving my baby for nobody.
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Yeah, definitely a cautionary tale.
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Yes, yes, it is, definitely a cautionary tale, and I think this is also why it kind of reminded me of like those movies that was coming out in the 90s, early 2000s, because we had a lot of cautionary tales.
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That's it all.
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That's exactly when I thought about y'all, yeah.
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Oh gosh, that that that part of the book.
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Yeah, it was that, yeah, it was more exactly because like obviously, and and then like you start to see her kind of wake up a little bit, like, dang, okay, maybe I shouldn't have done it too late, a little too late.
00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:23.279
It was very, very late, obviously, but like, yeah, it was it was a good book, man.
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It was good for me.
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I like it was crazy as halo and watching it because how does this come to your range?
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Because as as many critiques as I have for the book, I think I liked it because it was again like it wasn't what I expected.
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Nothing happened like that.
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No, like I've guessed it does the whole have rushes in her career, but I really thought it was just gonna be that but it was like so much more than that, and it was like Damn, like uh people, you know.
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I mean, literally every comment section, people are saying the the title is to catch her attention.
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Yeah, but yourself is never gonna be about the actual title.
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That's true.
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A lot of twists and turns.
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Yeah, because even the daddy-daughter thing, I was so excited.
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That doesn't hurt my feelings.
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I don't know, but at least we got to the end, yeah.
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Yeah, that hurt my heart so bad.
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And then the scene where um did he get chant or shot?
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No, he got shot.
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Is that the shot?
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He got shot everybody.
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Like he's a fucking chance to no longer send himself.
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It's like a week left.
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I was so scared.
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Yeah, listen.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, I'm just you know, oh, I hate it because I'm like you sit here thinking, like, okay, he's fine, everybody sees a baby, and then all of the shit starts happening.
00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.960
Yes, yeah, like, oh my god, horrible.
00:19:55.279 --> 00:20:05.680
At least he got to see her in the hospital, but like, yeah, but she was that must have too because you're not awake, you don't know, you're not aware, and then it just I did like three creatures brother though.
00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:09.759
Yes, it was definitely with them at all.
00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:21.519
Yes, then while we know Evelyn, trash, trash, but I think that's where we should learn how to I think because that you learn behavior from that, yeah.
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:27.519
So how her mom treated her, she treated Maya, yeah, but worse.
00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.880
Yeah, for a chat, yeah, good in Porchette.
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She was about to start coming out to get Maya, and then went to Maya, she can out to get the LCD.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Can we talk about the scene where her her son beat her up?
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I'm sitting at work in the back eating my lunch.
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I'm just like my mouth was open.
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I was just like, that text feels like beating her ass.
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I was like, I just couldn't believe it.
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I could not believe it.
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We okay, so at this point in the book, we see Frankisha kind of realizing that my told the grandmother's trying to get her, and now she's scrambling.
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She pissed off, she came home, she decided she's going to be on her son's.
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:23.119
You know, you're talking part.
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Yeah, we had a babysitter, but it was also it was Kateha's daughter, so her best friend's daughter, she got her pregnant.
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The daughter, the uh the musician, the musician's daughter.
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.440
Yes, she was a musician.
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What if she was like how little?
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So yeah, so she got her pregnant, and then she flipped out.
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Yeah, she flipped out.
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Yeah.
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And with everything happening.
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And not we're not talking about a spanking when we say a beat and y'all.
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I mean she was she was like, Take your clothes off on a little bit.
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That's basically what it was.
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And then the other brother came in and they just started curves on her.
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Yeah.
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Quite literally, basically.
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And then no, she burned up with the cigarette.
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Oh, yes.
00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:16.559
And that's when that's when they just I thought she was gonna die in that's me.
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And then that part I was like, okay, good.
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CPS is gonna come, they're gonna see what she's doing.
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Yeah, they're gonna ignore the fact that Maria's other grandmother kidnapped her and kept her there.
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But this is a great segue into CPS.
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And they're rolling.
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They pissed me off.
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The book and in the black community.
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They pissed me off.
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This is this is a sensitive topic.
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This is a sensitive topic.
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But I will say, unfortunately, the book version of CPS is quite accurate.
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In the book, there was a report made as soon as Mike told her grandmother.
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CPS says they're gonna look into it.
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The police don't care.
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Literally don't care.
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And CPS does not go check.
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They say they do though.
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Yeah.
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And then we basically get to the point in the book where she's being told, okay, you cannot keep my grandmother.
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.440
They tell Maya's grandmother you cannot keep her, she has to go to her maternal bed.
00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:29.839
So another CPS worker comes and brings her from the loving grandmother's house with a put-together home.
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Obviously, she wants to be there.
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Maya's crying, they drag her out of the house, take her back to the hood where her mom's mom, and she immediately knows that something is wrong.
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But she has no power to do anything, and the cop is not gonna help her.
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And because paperwork has been filed incorrectly, guess what?
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Maya's gotta stay there for now.
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And that's when she gets fit, which leads to her death.
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Yes.
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And it's one of those situations, and that we've talked about this too, where it's like how the justice system itself also fails.
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:14.319
Because it's like you have to follow these rules, and sometimes rules make absolutely no sense because it should be I'm going there, I'm seeing how this is.
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:20.559
No, I'm not gonna leave you here because of my findings, not well, we have to wait for this to go up the ladder.
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:26.480
Because what it was the the Spanish one that she was good because she saw that she was trying for best, yeah.
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:31.039
But I think in real life it because you said in marriage, and it shouldn't be like that.
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:49.039
Yeah, so there was a thread, I want to say last week, and somebody said CPS will literally take your child and pay another family to care for them instead of giving you the money to care for your child.
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:54.640
Yes, and they do this at an extremely high rate for black families.
00:24:54.960 --> 00:25:03.119
They will literally take your child due to poverty, they will take your child due to substance abuse, and it's not always warranted.
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:17.839
It's not always warranted, and oftentimes the children are left worse off than they would have been had they been able to stay home because everybody has heard stories of foster care or group homes.
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:24.160
It's I don't know one person that has lived in foster care who had a good experience.
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There's often a lot of you know trauma and abuse that happens, and this will really triggers on that end because it's like, oh my god, it's an office full of people that's supposed to be investigated, and then supposed to be out there for the case.
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.599
No, I said I was talking to my mother husband's doing it very similar to it.
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:42.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.640
Yeah, look at your job.
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That's not necessary.
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Yeah.
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:56.240
And another thing I didn't like, and this is as far as CPS and the police, they said basically they couldn't do anything because there was no visible hoop.
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.880
Words can hurt me.
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You can't see that.
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.319
Yeah, yes, the physical abuse.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:12.319
If you beat on somebody on the first of the month, most of the time by the 30th of the month, those bruises and scars are gone from your body physically, but they're still with you mentally.
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.319
And they were like, oh, it's a child's word voted first as an adult.
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:18.799
These kids, I think I got this sense.
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.119
Okay, they could tell you right or wrong yes or no, yes, bad touch, good touch.
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:29.839
So why can't my that word be taken as true if somebody that they love is hurting them?
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.839
People are, I mean, children are not given personally.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.279
No, no, they're not.
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:36.400
Children don't believe that.
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:37.359
No, no.
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.599
There's a quote about that, and I'm not even gonna paraphrase it because I don't remember, but I saw a quote about that.
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:48.319
Where it's like we don't treat children as like regular private citizens, we treat them as property, essentially.
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.640
And are there children who lie?
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:56.000
Yes, there are, yes, there are, but most the children's gonna the child doesn't lie to you.
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.119
That's what they say.
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.960
If a kid tells you that you're ugly, then you're ugly.
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Yeah.
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:15.599
And like it just boggled my mind, and it reminded me too of like how when if a woman is abused and they can't get a restraining order and they wait too long, though the police don't want to do a training order, they end up being killed by Tina.
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:20.160
Do you remember she went to get the restraining order for buddy?
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.960
And it was like, yeah, she had to wait.
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:29.759
The second part, Tina and um the other thing, yeah.
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:37.119
Yes, exactly.
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:39.680
She couldn't get a return order and then you know how.
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:40.880
That's true.
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.480
And that happens every day.
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Yeah.
00:27:43.599 --> 00:28:06.079
And it's like nobody gets nobody up there has a sense to like fix what's going on because they also benefit from it money-wise, and that's why they just keep doing it because this might be an extreme thought and an extreme thing to say out loud, but it's like sometimes I feel like the foster care system is a trafficking system.
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.720
I mean for our fish.
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:09.839
Listen, okay, I'm by the way.
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:10.720
She was like, oh shit.
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.160
No, no, no, listen, listen to the highway.
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:16.880
She's okay with this.
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:24.960
But there is a documented connection between the uh what's it called?
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:30.000
Amber Alerts and a recognized child trafficking rank.
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Documented.
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:48.720
The woman who runs or at least ran a few years ago when I looked into this who ran Amber Alerts literally had a family member who was actually legally like charged with child trafficking.
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.920
What this is real.
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.359
Now, I was hold on, I don't know what time I'll tell you.
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:04.160
Yeah, because this this shit is real, and this is this is my thing, and this is already I'm not going to be, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.680
This whole country, unfortunately, this country is built on child tracking.
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:17.839
We have to just come to terms with the fact and recognize and just really acknowledge the fact that the people who run this country are pedaccials.
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.720
Yes, and that's been proven, we're not just saying that.
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.519
Yeah, so people who run this country are pedicols.
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.440
We're gonna be put on a list of people.
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:37.519
Oh no, put that on the record.
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:49.039
Um, yes, they they run this country, and we have seen several instances of police officers, we have seen several instances of lawkeepers, lawyers.
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.440
I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:57.279
People who are in charge of children, people who are in charge of laws, they are the ones doing it.
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.440
Yes, there's no sense to do it.
00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:01.839
There's no incentive for them to fix it.
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.440
They wonder like that.
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.839
Yes, it's just disgusting.
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.880
And that's why I feel I felt very triggered by that part.
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:21.519
Because it's like this is what allows it to have to go on, and it and it really reminds me of like I mean, this is not really related, but kind of it is like I don't know if y'all do.
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.839
Did y'all know that they give you an IQ test to join the police force?
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:28.799
Really?
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:36.640
Yeah, somebody if it's too high, you don't go in.
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:39.599
That's all that makes sense.
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.880
Nah, I'm not gonna tell nobody business, but like I know this for a fact.
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:48.960
Somebody who's extremely smart.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:54.000
Extremely smart, and I mean extreme is somebody who's hard, you know.
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:58.400
As much as I am I am very much ACAB, I very much feel that.
00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.039
I don't care.
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.559
But I know this person got it, they wanted to do it for the right reason.
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.880
They wanted to join to actually help me.
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:17.039
But they're the ones that always like they're the ones that get shit on, get hurt in different ways when they're not agreeing or like joining the brotherhood of it.
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:26.160
Yeah, and it's so it's sad because again, you I guess if you have these people that want to do it, but then it's like one person against a hundred.
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.240
And and listen, this is the worst part.
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:36.240
This this person who has the heart, who has the intellect, who has the physical works out every day, they were judging.
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.279
That's how we kind of make sense.
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.279
Unless they want a certain type of person, yeah.
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.079
You get what I'm saying?
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.440
And I feel like they do that with a lot of things, including the CPS system.
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.160
Yes.
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.559
If you care too much, you're probably not a job for you.
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.519
But then think about it, like, would you laugh?
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.240
I think about me, I can never do that job.
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:12.960
In reality, no, it would I ask that you say if you have if you have empathy, it's hard if you think about how many jobs it's really hard to do if you have too much empathy and you can't turn it off, and maybe you can compartmentalize for a while, but then eventually it's gonna catch up to you and you just can't do it.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:20.799
Yeah, um god, so this is sorry.
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:36.319
Yeah, this this this book where we one of the other questions was do you think Juan Mills is using discomfort to call attention to bigger issues?
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.799
I think that kind of 100% what we were talking about.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:42.960
I mean, Will was uncomfortable to be able to do that.
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.079
And there's another one, it's funny that you just said that just now where I pulled this.
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:56.319
What there was one quote up where again it had to do with the landlord, and this is before um, I just like this part.
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:02.559
Um she was like, I need to go out to the hospital, my daughter's getting ready for surgery.
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.079
And this part made me uncomfortable too because it was very red pill, alpha male speak.
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.519
Where he was like, You black bitches are so damn predictable, I swear one day you're careless and reckless, don't know how to raise kids.
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.799
Next thing you know, some shit happens, you don't act like motherfucking best moms in the world.
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:25.599
Which again was that true to Fred Creature's case, but there was there was some of it where it was kind of just like it was kind of red kill-ish to me.
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:32.480
To me, maybe I was like reading like too much into it for it, but I don't know.
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.920
I don't I just don't like how you wrote the black women in it, I just I don't.
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.160
Yeah, I think it was on purpose.
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:38.640
I don't know.
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:39.119
I don't know.
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.039
I'm not, I'm gonna, at least I'm gonna say that.
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.839
I don't know, I don't know.
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:47.359
But yeah, I feel like because I mean he didn't write all of them like that.
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.160
He didn't write um the mom, the mom like that.
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.200
He didn't write Austin Girl, not Austin Smith.
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:54.240
Yeah, the next mom.
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.960
Um Tina didn't write her to make it yeah, she was a good child.
00:33:59.119 --> 00:33:59.920
She was good, yeah.
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.559
She was trying to do things and she was struggling, yeah.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.119
Yeah, she was trying to get her life together.
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:12.000
Um I mean the CPS lady was not black, but yeah, she was Mr.
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:12.639
Next one.
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:14.239
She was half.
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:15.599
Oh, she was half black?
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.320
Yeah, because I think somebody called her like Mexico or something like that, and she was like, I'm from Gary, Indiana.
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:25.280
Yeah, but yes.
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:26.000
Yeah.
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.400
And I feel like what's I can't remember his name, but Nate adjacent.
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.159
I feel like he just had a a bad heart, like just cruel person.
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:45.119
You know, in the beginning it said that he goes back and forth to the Dominican Republic to get to get his face, and he was like a 20 and we would have gave him an extra$20 and then what he has said.
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.440
So I feel like he has that mentality already.
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.800
Yeah, it's like I have women who are susceptible to do whatever I say, and then who do you think you are to tell me no?
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.360
Yes, yeah, very right.
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.639
I'm gonna die too.
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.280
Yeah, I mean I haven't had that.
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.280
Disgusting, yeah.
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:15.760
I was a little, I was a little bit upset, not upset that pretty quick should die, but I think I was kind of like rooting for her to like again, like she kind of started the wheel started turning, so I was maybe she gets it now.
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.639
So I was kind of a little hurt, I was kind of shocked by it, but oh no.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:27.599
I feel like after she told, I mean, granted, she really didn't have the money, but I feel like people like that, you hook and cool.
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.480
You didn't even have a couple pieces you want to lay your back to rest in a good way.
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:32.960
Right.
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:34.239
Yeah, that's true.
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:36.239
Not our background.
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:39.440
Come press that button.
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:41.360
Wait, what where are we at?
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.199
Where 345.
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:51.440
Just the 345 too.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.039
This makes up three seconds.
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.199
Oh my god.
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:00.559
Ugh.
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:01.280
Yeah.
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.719
Sorry, go ahead.
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.320
No, you found it.
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.880
I just feel like she was just horrible the whole way.
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:09.360
Yeah.
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.719
But I don't feel like there were any like real good parts, except when she found out that Maya was in the hospital.
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.239
She was like oh my god, my baby's in the hospital, but why is she there?
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:19.119
Right.
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.159
This is true.
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:21.920
Yeah, this is true.
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.840
Ugh, she did everything.
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.920
I know someone thinks about her, everything wrong, even though it don't work.
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.119
Oh my god, where's the book?
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:31.920
I just came out of it.
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:32.880
Oh, there it is.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.559
So another question.
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:38.559
Taking it a little lighter.
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:40.000
Okay.
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.400
What's more about her mama being a hater?
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.400
How's that lighter, girl?
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:45.599
It's lighter than you.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:47.039
I don't know, a little bit.
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:53.280
I mean, that was more of her friend than her mom, let's be for real.
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.840
Like that was that was babies raising babies, yeah.
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.280
Basically, yeah.
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:06.320
And but then what got me was she was like, she was almost jealous at her lack of ambition.
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:13.199
Because she was like, she could have been a hairstylist, she could have been a nail technician, but she chose to be bouncing around from man to man.
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.039
That's something you could have helped up with.
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:17.599
Yeah.
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:24.000
And instead of wanting from her, you're trying to take her kids away from her so that you can get money.
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.559
Like, what her bad in the worst thought the one she is.
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.960
The little thing you was like, I know what I gotta do, throw my daughter under the bus.
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.760
Yeah, but insanity.
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.079
So everybody's fucked up on the whole entire thing.
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:40.480
Yeah.
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.480
So she didn't stand a chance, obviously.
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:48.480
No, like she really, really didn't, and then like honestly, like not to.
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:55.599
I think if Maya would have lived, I don't think she would have stood a chance either.
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:56.320
Really?
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:56.800
No.
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:58.079
No.
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.079
I don't agree with me either.
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:00.480
Really?
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.800
Yeah, because your heart was already sweet.
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:08.480
No, not standing a chance, like with turning out like that, but standing a chance of being in the abusive desire.
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:09.280
That's what I meant.
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.960
But then not like for being she would have I would hope.
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:22.000
Well, I don't know, because that that's a situation of where hurt people hurt people, whereas like kids are sweet, but then they're also products of their environment.
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:29.119
So somewhere down the line they can just turn to pick up a habit, they don't even realize that they're doing it subconsciously.
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.920
That is true.
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:31.280
We pick up habits.
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:39.519
I think where she had better than her brothers, though, is that she had her because she did teach her manner, yeah.
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.239
She taught her, you know, how to take care of herself a little bit.
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:42.480
Yeah.
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.360
And hygiene, and oh gosh.
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:52.239
A good age though.
00:38:52.320 --> 00:39:01.519
Like I felt like if she would have lived, she's at a good age where she can fully understand what happened to her and then leave that where it was at to be able to go to a new space.
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:01.760
Yeah.
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.960
And I have a mother figure, which is the nightmare mom.
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.960
And I have my dad, I know my dad loves me.
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:07.679
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.320
And I feel like he was gonna turn his life after that happened.
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:11.440
He was starting to like her.
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:13.119
Yeah.
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.440
I'm so glad you got that money.
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:16.079
Me too.
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:16.800
I know.
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.800
Like, first, okay, let's talk about that.
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.400
I'm too happy.
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.920
I wouldn't have given her creature's mom a stat.
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.039
I'm gonna give you money, I'm gonna give you a job, and a place to live.
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:28.639
Get the fuck out of my face, excuse me.
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.519
I'm sorry, for real.
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:30.639
I would have not.
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:31.440
No.
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:32.159
They need it.
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.440
No, because here's the thing sometimes you gotta set up a boundary, okay?
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.199
You don't have to be a good person all the time.
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:40.960
Especially people who like shit on you.
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:42.639
Granted, was she right for Suey?
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.760
Yes, because they pulled a whole entire day and a lash on her granddaughter.
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.159
Right.
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.000
But no, no, not I I personally I am not Michelle Obama.
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.519
When they go low, I'm going to hell.
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.960
And that's what he should have done.
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.599
But you know what?
00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.199
He wanted good karma, I guess.
00:39:59.280 --> 00:39:59.519
Yeah.
00:39:59.599 --> 00:39:59.840
Yeah.
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:01.840
No, you guys.
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:08.400
I was just gonna say, I really think he was just trying to get rid of it, like make sure that they didn't bother him anymore.
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.239
Even though I still weren't given, but I see why he might have.
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:14.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:34.400
It's like kind of it's like one of those things where then it really is the right thing to do, but then you know y'all weren't taking care of her, you were trying to challenge his the fraternity, so you are you already knew, which is fun easy, you already knew you had to have known for you to pull some crazy stuff like that.
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.039
And shout out to the judge, yeah.
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:43.920
Shout out to the judge, yeah, because he's like, you know what, he's been through the$10 million?
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:45.119
Yeah.
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.360
I mean, I was very happy about that.
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.480
He had to live his new life with his new wife, yeah, a new baby.
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.880
Yeah, but I would have given the brother money for the picture's brother.
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:55.920
He he could have gotten some.
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.239
But the mom, no, you can live in your house.
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.960
Yeah, crackhead Glenn, he would have got a couple thousand out of me.
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:10.719
No, no, because he was he was low-key looking out for the keys to make sure nothing happened in the show and mama, yeah.
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.840
And then he, you know, told a little bit so the power how could happen.
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.199
Yeah, that's true.
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.800
Yeah, he would have got a couple.
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.960
So, yeah, a little bit, but no, I'm gonna give it to mom everything.
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.960
She uh she just lucky.
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:25.360
Yeah.
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:34.000
Dirty?
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.400
Yeah, yeah, it's dirty and dirty.
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:39.360
I'm gonna look this up.
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:42.000
That's the thing.
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:42.800
I don't know.
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.360
I don't know.
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:46.480
Let's look this up.
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.480
Let's let's do some do broaches.
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.800
What the hell is that the bite baby?
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.880
Okay, roaches do bite, but it is extremely rare.
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:09.199
They will only bite living humans if there is a massive infestation and alternative food sources like crumbs and garbage um are entirely depleted.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.480
So, like if they so they do bite you, it means they don't have any food.
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:16.159
So basically, they how he described their emotions like they were mad.
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:17.199
They didn't have food.
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:18.559
She cleaned up.
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.800
Yeah, no, she's at the mom house.
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.639
Yeah, she had me.
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:31.440
They feed, they can um they usually target exposed skin like fingers, toes, and eyelids to feed on dead skin cells, food, residue and oils, and she had pizza.
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.679
Yeah, but it's actually better face too.
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:39.280
Oh, that's scary.
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:40.239
Oh my god.
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.960
This is terrifying.
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:44.639
Very scary.
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:47.679
Clean out.
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:48.400
Yes.
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.599
There's also another part too where we talk about stereotypes a little bit that I forgot I highlighted.
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.199
It's when both Austin and uh Tina are going back to school and like she falls on the court of yard.
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:00.400
That was like so killing.
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:10.480
Yeah, and he helps her, and then this one wasn't the kind of stuff to me where he's she said it had been a while since someone had shown genuine non-sexual interest in her, especially a black man.
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:19.440
I feel like that last part wasn't necessary, just because it fed into the what's that for the Mandingo stereotype of the overly sexualized black man.
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:20.880
What?
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:26.400
Why it'd be true since it could be true.
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.920
I mean, that isn't what let me just let me just clarify, okay?
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.039
This is true, this is true, this is true.
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:35.920
This is true.
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.039
And I and I love black men, okay?
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.920
Love them, married the one, love them.
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:50.239
However, so there there are parts of our community that that very much glorify over sexualization.
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:52.800
Give me social media right now.
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.119
Yeah.
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.840
Yes, I'm still orgastic that they came in.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.039
India like that.
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.000
What's not what?
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.000
See, this is what I'm trying to say.
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:05.280
Get your ex on thirds.
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:06.400
Let me tell you what happened.
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.519
I don't know if y'all heard about this.
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.480
Y'all heard about this.
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:09.760
On thirds.
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.599
People were literally calling India Ari the Queen?
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.119
Out of her name.
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.440
Okay, I saw that, but why?
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.239
What did she do?
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:21.199
She didn't do nothing.
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:21.840
Okay, no.
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:24.880
Let me tell you.
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:26.320
I don't think she did nothing.
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:27.599
This is what happened.
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.239
A woman on threads said, We need to boycott Young Miami song.
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.960
That song was bad for the community in a nutshell, right?
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:35.440
Okay.
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:40.719
India commented and said, You cannot save everybody.
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.480
I gave up on trying to save everybody.
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.719
Everybody don't want to be positive, kind of thing.
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:45.599
Okay.
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.360
But exactly, right?
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:48.880
I don't think that's so bad.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.079
But there wasn't all that she with your mammy's song.
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:52.559
Okay.
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:54.239
Oh my god.
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:54.880
Yeah.
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:55.199
Yeah.
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:56.480
She made it something.
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:56.800
Yeah.
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.280
I know it's about, you know, it's not we just want to make people go out and do that.
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:01.679
No.
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:16.000
I feel like some of the older and granted, I like any other I read some of her songs and stuff like that, but sometimes it pays for you to just mind the business that pays you.
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:18.639
She didn't have to open up her mouth and say anything.
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:23.920
No matter what, how she feels, that song is everywhere.
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:24.559
It is.
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:30.880
The message behind it to me is no different than what any of these other rappers, singers, MCs.
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:35.440
My name is my offense.
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:36.960
Here's my offense.
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:38.800
My offense of India, okay?
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.360
While this is all true, and I'll explain that.
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.320
It's fun, like you said, it's a fun song.
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.320
Somebody came over the name of the bill yard back.
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.920
We're like, oh, this is like India has always been about positivity in our community.
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:58.079
Y'all gotta remember, she's she literally got bullied all through the 2000s just for being an artist.
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.320
Y'all remember when she cut her hair?
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They had to, I mean, they called her every name in the book.
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She has always been about self-love, she's always been about positivity and community.
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This is not a new stance from her.
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Not only that, but yes, this is no worse than my name, my bad.
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This is no worse than bad thing.
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Okay, it's not.
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However, the the truth of the matter is people have it, I mean, people have like nobody was criticized.
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.159
BT Uncut got shut down because of Titrillo.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's not one song that is like that, that is, I mean, let's just be real, focusing on the negative stereotype of black people that has not been criticized.
00:46:46.880 --> 00:47:00.000
And I don't think that criticizing that or bringing attention to the fact that it could be detrimental to our community's spiritual health, I do not think that that justifies the way that everybody bullied her.
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Like that.
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What did they say?
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I mean, it was literally calling her a bitch, telling her to shut the fuck up.
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.079
It's not that serious.
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.159
I mean, calling her names, it was bad.
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They were they were going in.
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They disrespect her.
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.000
Well, I just saw it.
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.119
It's like maybe because this is what I saw.
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.679
But what I saw was like they called her a pick me.
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Yeah, so I thought she was like defending a man.
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:29.360
Yeah, but what if but that's what I thought it was, but I don't understand how they got a pick me out of out of that.
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Okay, your whole textpeech that you just gave me other reminded me of that I just thought of it.
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Oh Lord.
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What is it?
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What?
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The scene from a D's family reunion.
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I need you to say that.
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I need to.
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What did she say?
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What are the only things?
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Is this on this on this way?
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What is she talking about?
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:05.440
I think there's I think we just need each other.
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My my whole stance and my defense of India is we need balance, we need nuance, and also we should not be so quick to disrespect.
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We should not be so quick to disrespect women who I mean I'm as as somebody who grew up as a dark-skinned girl in the early 2000s when they want nothing but Hispanic people and music videos.
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I am not my hair.
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Building that whole album really was really a huge thing for me.
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Seeing somebody who was not light-skinned, who was basking in the sunlight, being beautiful, her flowers, and her, you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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She deserves a certain level of respect.
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She I knew this whole thing.
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She deserves respect for being who she is.
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Yes.
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But that's everybody.
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If we're gonna say it like that, yes, but that's what I get.
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Deserves respect from people.
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That's what I'm saying.
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All she said was, hey, this song, now, okay, that's like, that's like, okay, for example, I'm gonna just use mommy.
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I know this is not easy, but I'm gonna just use my mom, okay?
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Let's say my mama only listened to God's squeezing.
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She don't like that other stuff.
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.719
I already know she doesn't like that other stuff.
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If somebody comes around playing, I mean, it could be damn Usher strong, it ain't that bad.
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.800
She's gonna say, uh uh, what you bring into my house for?
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I don't like it, that's not good.
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.920
Okay, maybe she feels a little strong.
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I might be like, Mom, it's just Usher.
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:52.239
But she's allowed to feel like that, and also I should not disrespect her for feeling like that because she did not call Usher, no homework and hug.
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.920
She just said, I can't do that.
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.079
I wish y'all didn't listen to that.
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.039
You can't say that that's all I'm saying.
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Because she had not seen anything, yeah.
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But damn, Rakia, that or again, I went the the what's name with your mom.
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.360
Yeah, that's your mama.
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.639
Iliot, we don't know about Leah.
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:28.960
We don't know that one young Miami, and again, like I feel like when she's gonna say something about that, she needs to open up her mouth and uses her platform to say stuff about every other show.
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:33.679
I don't need to see her, she was being like Indian.
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.760
She no, that's a that's a whole thing.
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.000
She did not say my young Miami name.
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.119
She didn't tell her, yes, but she was commentating on somebody else's daddy.
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:48.320
I feel like it was more than what post when she said something.
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:56.000
Um she said, okay, somebody had a comment about her and was like, um, in um in your please, we know this on a childish, we don't care.
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:01.199
She had an average girl from the video from the video that's ready for love, um, blah blah blah.
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.719
And she was like, Look, if y'all want to drag, at least be mad about what I said, and not with somebody.
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.159
Wait, I can't fucking read when I'd get when I'm I had one thing.
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I did not call for a boy talk.
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That was someone else.
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LOL, this is absurd.
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.440
I would really be sad if I expected anything better from y'all.
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:20.960
LOL, jeez.
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:22.960
Um, let me see.
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:32.880
She said, one, I said my entire adult life care way too much because I finally learned that not everybody cares with capital C, and explaining it to explaining it to them is not gonna make them care.
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.840
Everything you listen to or everything you listen to, see, or eat is going to influence you.
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:43.039
That's that that is that the energy you put out is energy that you do get to me.
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.000
That's what I don't agree.
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.159
So make wise choices.
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:56.639
Finally, I realized that not everybody wants to get free, and it was a very, very, very good awakening SNH because the massive septance of the song is a crystal clear sign of this much bigger truth.
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.039
What I did not say is that everybody needs to make up, that there was a problem to be fixed.
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:07.119
I called it the truth that I personally don't like, which is my right, that the song needs to be boycotted because I don't believe that.
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.599
Everybody's gonna make the choices they want to make.
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.840
Um, what does boycotting have to do with it?
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:17.039
So if you like my comments, at least don't like what I actually said instead of what somebody's telling you I said.
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.480
So In light of that, what do you think?
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.480
How are you feeling after reading that?
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:26.719
You still think it's too gen Z?
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.719
Because I thought you said I get the elbows and stuff like that.
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.880
She's a high vibrational woman.
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:33.119
Yeah.
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:42.480
So I feel like when you have a high vibrational woman, but something that could be considered like a low vibrational song, it like disturbs that I don't make any fucking sense.
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:50.800
No, I mean she is she is a different type of person the way she cares to sell, how she feels about the herbs and all those things.
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.840
She and that's what's always made her her.
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:54.480
Yeah.
00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:03.599
So if other people want to do and listen and make this catchy, and granted, I do believe that what you put out and what you receive is potentially going back and forth.
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:10.960
But me since thinking spin that is not making me want to jeopardize my future going scant.
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:17.039
That exactly, I think that's the point towards I think where it's not to me.
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.400
Looking back at it, like you see how people was coming.
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:30.320
Okay, this is how she's gonna, but like again, like you said, like I'm gonna sing the song, but like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna I don't want to know.
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:40.239
And I think that's true for most people, and I I think that's why my my takeaway from it is I wish everybody had money lots.
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.480
There were people on one side saying India shut the fuck up.
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:49.519
Then there were people on the other side saying she's right, y'all supposed.
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.880
And I'm like, where are the people in the middle?
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:56.239
Because at the end of the day, let's just be real.
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:56.960
It's the internet.
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.800
People on the internet don't listen to people that are in the middle because that's um I'm no offense to the case.
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:01.280
And it's true.
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.880
People on the internet, a lot of them don't have common sense or critical media issues.
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.519
It's polarized, it's black and white, and that's unless it's great.
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:10.880
Yeah, it is great.
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:17.519
And I think no, I'm sorry, I think because I have bread because I didn't know because all I saw was like, what the fuck happened to NDRE?
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.719
Like last week, and then I just never care to look at it.
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:26.239
It was like her point is valid, other people's points are valid too.
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.880
Yeah, truth truths can't be true at the same time.
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:30.639
You don't gotta call her a name.
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.719
Like damn it, disrespect each other.
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:34.159
That's that's that's the only takeaway.
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.880
Okay, everybody's everybody write in some kind of way.
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:42.800
Like I say, I like saying that.
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:44.960
I also love India.
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:50.480
Every song I heard, I gotta say, but why can't we just like acknowledge?
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.639
And I know that's a lot to expect from internet.
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:59.679
I know that's a lot to expect from internet, but like, can we just have some productive dialogue?
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:11.440
Like, there is room to say, hey, you know, niggas be scamming each other like in real life nowadays, and kids are going up thinking in school to scale and shit.
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:13.760
And it's not a musician's responsibility to do that.
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:18.800
It's Cardi B said something like that, where it's like people were attacking for her music, and she's like, I'm not raising your kids, you are her kids.
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:32.000
It's like again, like I don't really you you need to guide them into what it is, but you can also acknowledge that music is is influential in certain things, but also like let people let people have fun.
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:39.679
It's about and I think I think if and you know this kind of does come up for the book.
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:58.480
I think if we can better acknowledge the risks, yes, then everything as a whole can improve because it it's one thing to listen to Spin A and know in your head you can't scam nobody out.
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:00.159
Yeah, scamming is wrong.
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.960
Right, you will go to jail, yeah.
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:05.119
We're too pretty good for jail.
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:19.920
There's there's one way to listen to it, and then you can also listen to the understanding that hey, there is a real thing where there is music executives who will only push a certain type of music.
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.199
Yes, yes, that's true.
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:35.039
And so you have to acknowledge that because if you don't acknowledge it, then you do unfortunately listen to certain things around your children or around you know impressionable teenagers who will take it seriously.
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:35.679
Yeah.
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:50.880
So are we also exposing our children to the Indianities of the world and influencing their self-esteem in a world where the internet means you're supposed to be a certain stature, a certain skin color, a certain this and that, and whatever.
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:52.079
Just balance.
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.559
I really think that's the whole thing, like let's get in balance.
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:56.480
Yeah, okay.
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.079
Yeah, I guess.
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.039
But no, I I get I think I was picking up what you put in.
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.519
You think I'm gonna do that?
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:14.239
Report.
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.119
Yeah, put a dialogue.
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.119
That's pretty good at our job.
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.320
Somebody sponsor us.
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.119
Girls, production companies.
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:26.000
Yeah, reach out.
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:27.599
Hello, Angry Watcher.
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.440
I'm already feeling that a little bit.
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:30.559
Hello, Angry Watcher.
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.400
I'm even starting to get in it.
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:57.360
There's an episode of a podcast that I like the basement yard, plugged in them because I love them.
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.280
But their last episode titled Lie Saint Coughing or Like Choking is embarrassing.
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:03.760
And that is what it happened.
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:05.119
Okay.
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.480
Um, yeah, what's the next book for the next episode?
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:14.159
The next episode we will be talking about Outdrawn by Diana Gray.
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:14.800
Yes.
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.079
A good palette cleanser.
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:18.639
Yeah, yes.
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.000
Yes, very much needed.
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:20.800
Very yeah.
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:22.639
I thought this season has been heavy.
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.039
Yeah.
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:24.079
It has been.
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.400
And it was it was a great day.
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.719
I think what the next books we're reading for August are heavy anyway, too.
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:29.519
So I thought it was.
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.239
Yeah, anyway.
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.159
We'll see you guys on the next episode.
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.239
Give us a like, follow uh plot on the rocks on all platforms.
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:36.719
Yes.
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Bye.