S8 EP10: Jason Bell

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett.
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And I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
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I discuss what it's really like to be a parent,
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which I would say can be a little tricky.
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So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
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Or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with
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your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.
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Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where
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none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening
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to Parents in Hell with.
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Henry, can you say Joshua Willicombe?
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Joshua Willicombe!
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Can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett! Well done, Rob!
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What is going on there?
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There we go. There we go.
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Pig in the background.
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Hi, Rob and Josh. This is my very nearly eight-year-old
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Iris and asking my very nearly six-year-old Henry your names.
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Henry will be six on the 7th of February and
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Iris Anne will be eight on the 14th of February,
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Valentine's Day. So the same ages as Rob's daughters, so
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can very much relate to him. Love the podcast. Work
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days are always more manageable on a Tuesday and Friday.
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Thanks for all the laughs. Zoe from Gosport, Portsmouth.
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Gosport, Portsmouth. Thank you very much. What's that in the background?
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It sounded like piglets.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, they are piglets.
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That's from Peppa Pig, then.
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P.S. We're piglets.
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P.S.
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Little known fact, we are the first piglets to listen
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to podcasts. How are you, Josh? You teased us with
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a Jason Bell story last time we spoke.
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Yeah, I've begun Project Girls Aloud, Rob.
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Okay, what's Project... This sounds like the start of a
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stalking case.
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No, it's to get my daughter into Girls Aloud.
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Right, so, Lou, I didn't realise, mine are.
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Ah, there you go.
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I mentioned, because I was like, oh, you know, I
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spoke to the guy who went out with Nadine from
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Girls Aloud. Do you like Girls Aloud? I was like, yeah,
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play Sound of the Underground, play Love Machine. So they're
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quite into it. So you're trying to get your daughter
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into it so you can go to the show.
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Yeah, she's up for it. I'm taking it. It's going
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to be her first ever gig. It's going to be
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Girls Aloud.
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Lou, I didn't know this either. Lou's, I think, taking
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them as well.
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Is she?
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I'm not around on that date that she's going, but
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I think.
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She's taking them. She does. She's planning to get W's.
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I won't be around then. No, I'm filming those days.
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That's a filming block for me, so I can't make
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the evening gig. But, yeah, I think so. That's weird,
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isn't it? Your first ever gig is going to be
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girls alone. But it's quite nice. I think Gladiator has
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inspired this of like, well, why don't we just go
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and do something we both enjoy? Because we like girls alone.
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They've had some bangers as well, you know.
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You know, Rob, I was listening to the hits on
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the way to the Kent coast.
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Towards Dungeness Power Station.
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I think beyond... The Beatles and Blur and possibly the Smiths,
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they've got more good songs than any British band in history.
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How close were you to the Power Station?
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Fucking hell, their songs are good.
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It's hit after hit. The way they're constructed.
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They are so... The show might be one of my
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Desert Island discs.
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What show?
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The song The Show.
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Right, okay.
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I don't know if I know that one. How does
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that go?
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Nobody sees the show until.
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Oh, yeah, that's a good song.
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It's just got so many different bits.
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It's got.
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Which is the chorus? Which is the verse? I genuinely, Rob.
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Yeah.
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I think the people that write those songs are called Xenomania,
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who are based in Kent.
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Xenomania? That sounds like a problematic kids' entertainers.
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Xenomania.
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I'd like to make a complaint about what happened to
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my kids at Xenomania. You said it was a ball pool.
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Oh, so they helped write the songs or did they
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write all the songs?
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Well, they're the writing team that Girls Aloud work with
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and they do the Sugar Babes and they did Believe
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by Shea. I think they're up there with Lennon and McCartney, Rob.
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Really?
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Who is Xenomania then? Who's in Xenomania? It's a bloke called...
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Brian Hughes. Brian Higgins, sorry.
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Brian Higgins, sorry. I remembered his name because... There was
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a comedian called Brian Higgins and a woman called Marina
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or something like that. And I just think Girls So
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Loud are incredible. I just think their songs are unbelievable.
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Well, yeah.
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Well, I do feel a bit mean, though. We're just
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literally talking about Jason Bell's ex's music before his interview.
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Sorry.
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Okay, let's move on. Project NFL.
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It's like having Abby Clancy on and then going, I'll
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tell you what, that volley that Crouchy did.
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Yeah.
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Okay, let's move on. Project NFL, Rob.
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Talk to me about your favourite Jason Bell NFL play.
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Project NFL's hit the skids a bit, wasn't it?
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Yeah, so what's going on with Project NFL? Because it's
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Super Bowl this weekend. We've got Jason Bell on. You're
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a huge NFL head. Well, I'm not a huge NFL head, Rob.
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You love the Bengals, innit?
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I love Gridiron. I tried it, Rob. I tried my best.
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It's on too late. It's too long.
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It is good sport, but... It is good sport.
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It is good sport, but fucking hell, mate. Have I
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got time for good sport? I think I'm just dapping
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out of good sport until.
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Well, I do think if you're into football, and I'm
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into football and boxing, it does limit opportunity to watch
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more of... I love basketball, but it's on too late. MMA,
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I watch MMA, boxing, and football are my main ones.
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But there's football on every night this week.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't even do that. I just haven't got
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a life, Rob.
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Yes, you have. What do you do when you get
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a bit of time? You went yoga this morning.
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Last night we watched the end of the Pamela Anderson documentary.
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Have you watched that?
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No, but I wouldn't use that as an example of
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the life you've got.
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It's a good doc.
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I know, but I'm trying to think, what's your hobbies?
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I just don't have any.
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What sport do you do? Do you do peloton on
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your own?
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No. No?
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Okay, you've stopped doing that.
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Yoga?
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Yoga.
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I do a bit of yoga.
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Anything else? I play five-a-side football.
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Yeah, I go to the gym. My children go to school.
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Yeah, well done, yeah.
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You've only got a five-and-a-half-hour gap in between. It's not
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long enough.
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No, but then I do mine sort of in the
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evenings when they're in bed or Lou puts them to bed.
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At 9 p.m.? I play football at 8 p.m.
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Do you?
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On Sundays.
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Yeah, I think.
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And Tuesday football. Why don't you come play Tuesday football?
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Because it's the whole afternoon. I've got to go there
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and back.
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Also.
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It's a hobby. You've got to put yourself first. I
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find contact sport stressful.
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Going goal then?
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I broke my wrist once when I went in goal
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in five-a-side football because someone hit a hard shot and
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it bent my fingers back.
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And that broke your wrist?
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Yeah.
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Right, so you don't like contact sport. Right, so what.
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It's taken me about.
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Go for a dog walk?
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I'm 40.
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It's taken me about 38 years to realise I don't
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like playing football.
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Okay, right. So what do you... Fishing?
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Golf?
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No, I think that's cruel, fishing.
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We could go golf like Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corby.
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I just.
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Fishing's cruel.
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Okay, right.
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Fair enough. I get that.
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Golf?
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I think... I haven't got the mentality for golf. I
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think it would stress me out too much.
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Yeah, I think you're too competitive.
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If I hit a bad shot, it's going to get
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to me. I'm not going to be able to put
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it behind me.
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Your neck's going to be in pieces.
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My neck's going to be in pieces.
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Okay, what else could.
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You do then?
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Are you looking for companionship?
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No, I've got Rose.
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No, not like that. But are you looking to hang
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out with people as well as do a sport?
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I like being on my own.
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Right, okay. Why don't you get a dog and go
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for dog walks?
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Because they're a big commitment.
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That is too big. You could just walk without a dog.
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Yeah.
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But then walking's boring, and I think everyone gets a
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slight PTSD from lockdown walks.
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Yeah, I do think.
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Especially if you haven't moved. I've got back into walking
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since I moved, but when I lived in my old house,
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I was so bored of that. Anywhere within a five-mile
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radius of that area, I had covered. About a postman
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by the end of it.
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So in conclusion... I've got nothing going on.
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You've got nothing going on. You watched the end of
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a documentary. We're watching a good series. Which we watched
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over three separate nights. Well, Rose is only at home
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twice a week, isn't she?
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We're barely together.
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Is she at home now?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's nice.
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We've got the evening together. No, I've got gigs. Fuck it, Al.
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You're gigging's your hobby.
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Oh, because it comes to that.
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That's what used to be your hobby.
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I know.
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You're very lucky to get to do.
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That's the problem. You turn your hobby into a job.
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And then suddenly I've got a hobby.
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Exactly. Because there's too much on the line.
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There's too much on the line, mate.
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That's why I won't go pro as a boxer or footballer.
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I don't want to lose it. That's why Morrissey never
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played my instruments. He still wanted to love music.
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Oh my God. I was in a taxi the other
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day talking of Morrissey. Okay. And the guy went, I
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just did the class. We were driving along and he
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was like, I'll tell you who I picked up there.
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Johnny Marr from the Smiths.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, fucking hell, that's cool.
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Yeah.
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What was he like? Yeah, yeah. And he went, oh,
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here's the weirdest thing. Dropped him off, went round the corner,
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guess who I picked up? Neil Morrissey.
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But he didn't put two and two together. Oh, he
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just thought it was weird it was someone who was famous.
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He just thought it was weird there was two famous people.
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And I was sat there going, mate, you're telling an
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anecdote here. You've got an open goal here.
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Did you say that to him? No, because I couldn't
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believe it.
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I was like, I didn't want a trampoline punchline.
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Also, you're trying to keep chat to a minimum, really,
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aren't you?
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Yeah, exactly.
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I didn't want to go. I'll tell you what, it
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is a chopper for you, mate.
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Do you know what I find quite stressful? If you
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get picked up. and they recognise you is when they
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go like oh I had so and so and they'll
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say like Billy Connolly or a comedian or something and
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then he goes oh they were so funny yeah so
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you're like well now I feel like I've got to
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put a fucking shift in there yeah and I feel
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like I've got to start doing a little bit of
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new in the back of the cab to win him over.
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I got in and he said straight away he went
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You know, fair enough. He was like, oh, how's the
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comedy going or whatever? And I was like, yeah, good.
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And then I was like, I want to move the
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conversation away from me. And I was like, so have
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you had anyone exciting in your cab?
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Classic question.
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And he went, well, no disrespect, but I think everyone's
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as exciting as each other. I don't think famous people.
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I'm like, come on, mate.
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I wasn't... Oh, so now you're like, oh, yeah, I
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am special. Anyone else special in England?
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Yeah, that wasn't what I was saying. I just didn't
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want to talk about... If anything, I'm turning the fucking
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spotlight off me. You put it on me. Now, tell
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me your anecdote about.
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Yeah.
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Johnny Marr and Neil Morrissey and we can enjoy ourselves.
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I've completely been oblivious to the punchline.
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Yeah.
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About the time you met fucking Ian Brown and Martin
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Clunes on the same night. Right.
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Yeah. I mean.
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Because the delivery there needs to be, I dropped Jeremy Murdoch,
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you'll never guess who I picked up around the corner, Morrissey.
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And you go, no.
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I go, yeah, no.
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It was Neil Morrissey. And then he turns on the
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men behaving badly music.
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Teed up.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Well, should we get Bell on?
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Yeah.
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Legend.
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Let's get the Bell. Wonderful man.
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Incredible bloke. Jason Bell.
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Please welcome to the podcast, Mr. Jason Bell. Now, Jason,
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I've got a lot. There's a lot on your resume here.
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You're ex-NFL, strictly come dancing, now a presenter and a
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pundit for NFL in the UK and I think in
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the US as well. And on top of that, You
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went into Wall Street or something, but I don't understand money,
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so you're some sort of big city player as well.
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And you've got a kid, which really helps this episode anyway.
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That helps it all.
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So how would you describe yourself to a newcomer to
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the world of Jason Bell? What's your number one thing?
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Oh, right now it's definitely the NFL.
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It's definitely presenting in football. It's everything's seasonal to me.
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And I've lived by this schedule my entire life, you know,
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from August until mid-February, it's all NFL.
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So I kind of lock in.
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And then the off season, I start diving back into
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my other business in the U.S., which is finance, private
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wealth management for athletes, entertainers. So I went to that
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when I retired. I had a passion for that. So
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helping people like myself and I enjoy it. It all
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kind of works together and intertwines all the same lessons
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and tools.
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You're so fucking positive, Jason.
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I love it.
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I love Americans. I feel like you're like a drip
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of vitamins. You don't people go on an IV drip
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just to get pumped up. I feel like I could
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take on the world after that. Just hearing about you.
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Hey, you know, what's funny is everybody's got a role.
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So when I was on the team, my role was
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to bring energy. even when it, you know, I come
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on the field, maybe we were kicking off or I play,
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you know, on third down, it was come on, bring energy,
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make sure everybody feels it.
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You had a position as well though, didn't you? You
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didn't just, I was.
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Out there balling. I was making plays, but you know,
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it's just, what do you bring in practice? Yeah.
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When nobody's up for it, you know, when it's a
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hard day to work out and you got to run
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in the summertime.
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I was always that guy.
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Just come out there at the beginning in the in
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the morning, just start yelling and just, hey, let's go
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out and do this.
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And, you know, it's natural to me. So, yeah. Thank
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you for saying that.
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Do you bring that to parenting, Jason?
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I do. And that's why my daughter looks at me
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like I'm crazy half the time.
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So how old you've got one child how old your daughter.
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She's nine she'll be 10 tomorrow.
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Oh what are you doing for it tomorrow yeah we.
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Had a big birthday party on the weekend so she
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did tea with her friends it was really cool um but.
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She wants sushi on after school so yeah yeah what kind.
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Of sushi is she eating because my kids like sushi
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But it's strictly just the bottom squashed down bit of
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rice and I have to take the salmon off the
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top to eat.
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What your children like is rice, Rob. That's what your
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children like.
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She likes the sushi, man. She likes salmon, sashimi. She's
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into that. She'll try it all.
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But yeah, she got into it early when we were
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living back and forth to New York. And she just.
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Started getting into it then. And yeah, she's got a
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great palate like her mom, not her dad.
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Do you spend your time between both countries?
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No, I'm here.
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Once you start at school, you have to kind of
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lock in and make a decision. So I've been here
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once school started. And yeah, this is home to me.
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Yeah, because you're separated from her mom. But I read
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so you were like in L.A. for a bit.
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Is that right?
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And then you say you're here now. She's at school.
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But you moved in together as well over COVID as well.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah, we were all, you know, COVID, everybody's figuring it out. Yeah,
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we've always been close, tight-knit, so yeah.
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Yeah, it's amazing, though, to be able to, even though
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you're not together anymore, to still have that connection where
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you can, you know, live in a house together and
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put the child first. Not many people have that, so
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it's really impressive and quite special.
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I always look and I tell Anaya, my daughter, all
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the time, man, you just got the best mom in
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the world.
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You're so lucky.
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When you see someone parent and you see how they
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put the child before everything, especially someone as busy as
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her mom, it just makes you very proud to know
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that person.
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It's been an honor to have a mother like that
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for my daughter.
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It's a weird thing to say, but If I ever
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split up with Rose, I hope it's as good as that.
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Because obviously your career in the NFL and her mum
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was a pop star and stuff like that. Is your
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daughter heading to one of those directions or somewhere else?
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Is it music, sport or business?
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She's definitely got the music. She's definitely got the music side.
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Her writing is unbelievable. Her understanding of music is is
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just it's she's inherited it. You can see it. So
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I think she'll definitely be on the art side. I
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could see her writing music. I could see her going
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that direction for sure. I try to push her into sports,
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but she always goes, I don't have to like it
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because you do, Dad.
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And I was like, that's true. That's very, very, very,
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very true. I'm always like, do you know you're fast?
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She's like, yes. I was like, okay. And I put
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track and field on all the time. I say, you
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see them run and jump? Would you like to do that?
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She's like, yeah. I was like, okay, all right.
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I'm always showing her stuff, introducing stuff like, can we
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do this?
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Trying to get her into flag football. She's kind of
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on the fence with that. So, yeah.
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I suppose it's harder to play it over here, though.
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It's not that much of it going on. I mean,
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and that's what you're trying to do. You're involved in
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the NFL Academy. And are you involved in nicking that
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Welsh rugby player? That's been quite funny for someone who's.
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Not into rugby.
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Oh, man, I wish I could take credit for that,
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but that dude is talented, man. I'm really interested to
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see how he... He does. He looks really focused. He's
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got all the skills. So that'll be cool. But flag
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is really growing over here. There's a lot of opportunities
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for that, especially for young girls. When I came to
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this country, that was my main concern. I was like,
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where are the sports for all the young girls? Cause
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in America, I got tons of sports. So, but it's,
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it's starting to happen and they're pushing it and the
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opportunities are there.
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So yeah, just trying to get her involved with everything.
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That's the key.
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And when you're working with the NFL Academy, what are
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the parents like? How intense are like, Some parents living
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through their children there.
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You don't see that at the academy because it's different.
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They're away from home. They're at the university. So they're
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just chilling up there doing all that. So it's just
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the kids locking into school. A lot of them are.
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It's just fascinating how determined they are and how focused
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they are because all of them want to go to
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a university and continue to play a sport they love.
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So they're just so driven with that. I mean, their
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schedule is amazing. is demanding, but they love it. They
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meet the challenge and you seeing all the stories of
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all these kids going on to, to colleges, especially in
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the U S playing football.
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And it's the opportunities. I mean, it's changing lives. It
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changed my life.
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If I plan for the sport, I love going to
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school at UCLA opened up everything for me. Everything changed
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then because of what I, what and who I was
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exposed to.
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And what kind of parent are you on the sideline?
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Like in the UK, soccer, football, you know, here is
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the biggest thing. But the dads especially get embarrassingly loud
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and aggressive.
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They're horrible, Jason. They're horrible.
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Every sort of dad I know around this area has
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got a story about the time they've been on the
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touchline when a dad's walked on and tried to fight
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the ref.
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It's insight.
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Does that happen in America as well? What are you like?
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Oh, for sure. You see it all the time in
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youth sports in America.
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You know, I'm loud and aggressive when it comes down
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to school plays and performances.
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I'm jumping up, clapping, yelling. I know everybody in there
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is like, that's that American dad right there. He needs
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to chill out. Like, sit down, brother. Sit down. Come relax.
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I'm in there cheering for the kids. Ah! You know, so,
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and that I'm crazy. But as far as sports is concerned, like,
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even when they have a sports day, I just chill out.
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Like I'm never going to and I will never be
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that kind of parent because I've seen it before.
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I didn't have pressure when I was playing.
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My parents were always there, but they weren't overly involved
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unless I needed them to be. And I think it
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helped me because I had. to figure it out myself.
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Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant, I read somewhere where
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he was talking about coaching his daughter. And now he
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had this hands off approach because he was like, she
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needs to figure it out in there.
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00:20:03.059 --> 00:20:04.359
I can't tell her the answer.
504
00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:09.549
And I think sports as for kids, it teaches you
505
00:20:09.589 --> 00:20:12.569
a lot of things, a lot of lessons that you
506
00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:13.750
will have to learn in life.
507
00:20:14.619 --> 00:20:17.210
And if you learn them there and you figure out.
508
00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:19.730
How to handle them in those situations it helps you
509
00:20:19.769 --> 00:20:21.930
when you're an adult so you can't give them the
510
00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:24.549
answers they just got to figure it out themselves afterwards
511
00:20:24.569 --> 00:20:26.950
you can replay it and talk it through but in
512
00:20:26.970 --> 00:20:30.410
the moment it's it's on them and i believe that
513
00:20:30.470 --> 00:20:32.660
you kind of just need to relax as a parent
514
00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.460
and let them do that as.
515
00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:36.359
You said sports day there did you do that was
516
00:20:36.380 --> 00:20:37.420
there a father's.
517
00:20:37.099 --> 00:20:41.509
Race yeah it's father's race and did you win man,
518
00:20:41.529 --> 00:20:43.390
I'm not going to do those fathers like that. You
519
00:20:43.410 --> 00:20:45.690
know what I'm saying? Like, why would I, why would
520
00:20:45.769 --> 00:20:48.990
I ruin the day? You know, even they try to
521
00:20:49.019 --> 00:20:50.230
tell me, they're like, you're going to do the race now.
522
00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:51.789
I'm like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to,
523
00:20:51.950 --> 00:20:53.500
I want you guys to enjoy yourself.
524
00:20:54.099 --> 00:20:59.339
Either way, that's more of a power play than winning.
525
00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.039
I'm like, go enjoy it. All I can do, Rob
526
00:21:03.099 --> 00:21:04.160
is go out there and lose.
527
00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:06.119
That's all I can do.
528
00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:09.920
Like, if I win, everybody's like, you won. Cool, show off.
529
00:21:10.019 --> 00:21:12.660
If I lose, it's like, oh, man, he lost.
530
00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:15.829
But when you're not racing, for them, for those dads,
531
00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.849
whoever wins, there's that asterisk there, isn't there, going, it's
532
00:21:18.890 --> 00:21:20.970
basically like winning a medal at the Moscow Olympics when
533
00:21:21.069 --> 00:21:21.990
USA won that.
534
00:21:22.089 --> 00:21:24.789
Like, it's... It.
535
00:21:24.750 --> 00:21:28.930
Doesn't really count because it's been boycotted by the big guy.
536
00:21:29.549 --> 00:21:33.230
Also as well, those other dads, if they're up against you,
537
00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:36.750
they've got a chance of beating the NFL guy. They
538
00:21:36.829 --> 00:21:38.849
are going to put everything on the line. They don't
539
00:21:38.869 --> 00:21:41.190
care about hamstrings. They don't care about injury. They're going
540
00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:42.869
to be going at it like animals.
541
00:21:43.269 --> 00:21:46.569
Man, the physical therapist I go to is like, oh,
542
00:21:46.569 --> 00:21:49.069
I always know when sports day's around, all the dads
543
00:21:49.089 --> 00:21:49.970
start coming in again.
544
00:21:50.069 --> 00:21:54.059
I'm like, see, they're out there blowing out hammies. acl's
545
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:58.819
getting torn achilles popping no i don't got time for that.
546
00:21:59.420 --> 00:22:01.619
You're super sort of positive and confident and i think
547
00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:03.759
that's an american trait as well as yourself you know
548
00:22:03.859 --> 00:22:07.140
with your daughter obviously she's you know european and american
549
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.559
sort of has she got that sort of inner confidence
550
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.039
like from you because she sees how you act with
551
00:22:12.099 --> 00:22:14.240
people and things like that and also her mom's super
552
00:22:14.269 --> 00:22:16.109
confident as well but is it do you think it's
553
00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:18.349
a british thing or it's sort of a parent thing
554
00:22:18.369 --> 00:22:21.460
of like instilling that self-confidence that Americans seem to have,
555
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.619
but British people can be quite awkward and over polite
556
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:26.529
and things like that. Have you seen that much?
557
00:22:27.049 --> 00:22:31.440
I love the difference in cultures. I appreciate it.
558
00:22:31.789 --> 00:22:33.609
And I think the more you're exposed to it, the
559
00:22:33.650 --> 00:22:36.779
more you're able to understand how the world works. So
560
00:22:37.180 --> 00:22:40.400
me being over here, I look at British culture and
561
00:22:40.420 --> 00:22:42.170
I enjoy it.
562
00:22:42.380 --> 00:22:43.220
I enjoy how.
563
00:22:44.990 --> 00:22:48.710
Different cultures behave and how they handle certain situations, how
564
00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:51.259
they look at certain things. And I think with my daughter,
565
00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:53.940
you know, she spends a ton of time in Ireland. Uh,
566
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.980
I think being exposed to all of that, it just,
567
00:22:57.259 --> 00:23:00.299
it just helps her, uh, be more dynamic of a person,
568
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.779
you know, being over here is open my eyes to
569
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:06.339
a lot of things in the world and, and change
570
00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:09.259
my perspective on how I would see things. So I
571
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:15.400
appreciate the difference in how the cultures, um, deal with things.
572
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:16.819
I mean, it's fascinating.
573
00:23:16.900 --> 00:23:19.119
Even when I first came here and I wasn't doing
574
00:23:19.579 --> 00:23:23.180
the media stuff, I was heavily in finance. Even how
575
00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:25.210
people talked about their finances in this country.
576
00:23:25.230 --> 00:23:28.950
I was like, oh, that's different. It's a different approach.
577
00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:31.069
And I was like, okay. And I started to dive
578
00:23:31.109 --> 00:23:33.650
into the behavioral side of that. And it was fascinating.
579
00:23:33.829 --> 00:23:36.569
How were Brits then? How were they approaching it compared
580
00:23:36.589 --> 00:23:38.869
to Americans differently? A bit more embarrassed?
581
00:23:39.490 --> 00:23:39.710
Yeah.
582
00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:41.769
They just don't talk about it, you know, and especially
583
00:23:41.809 --> 00:23:44.390
on the athlete side, you know, that's, that was the
584
00:23:44.430 --> 00:23:45.259
core of my business.
585
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.880
So I would look at footballers and other people in sports.
586
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.700
I was like, Hmm, nobody really is talking about this
587
00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:52.759
stuff or, you know, how does this happen in.
588
00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:55.500
The, in the locker room or the changing room? Like what,
589
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:59.309
what's the dynamics. And yeah, just, it's just that stiff
590
00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:01.670
upper lip. We don't have these conversations, but yet we're
591
00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:03.849
all having the same problem. And if we all talked
592
00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:06.630
about it, we'd all, probably find the best solution because
593
00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:09.569
all of our shared experiences together would give us you
594
00:24:09.609 --> 00:24:13.119
know some kind of core understanding but yeah so that
595
00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:15.559
that was the thing it's changing but when i first
596
00:24:15.579 --> 00:24:17.039
got here i witnessed that.
597
00:24:17.299 --> 00:24:20.299
And if your daughter was if there was uh it's
598
00:24:20.339 --> 00:24:24.400
the world cup semi-finals and three of the teams are
599
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:28.160
england ireland and america who's your daughter supporting in that.
600
00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:34.240
Situation ireland ireland yeah for just just 100 percent Yeah,
601
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.420
she's Irish, man. She's Irish.
602
00:24:36.809 --> 00:24:40.569
I love that she spends so much time there. I'm
603
00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:43.579
so happy. When I first started going over there, I
604
00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:46.799
was like, man, these people are so nice.
605
00:24:47.380 --> 00:24:51.460
I loved it. I was so every second. I remember
606
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:51.890
the first.
607
00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:53.490
Time my mom went over there. I was like, you're
608
00:24:53.509 --> 00:24:55.029
going to love it, mom. It's going to be great.
609
00:24:55.309 --> 00:24:57.670
Just like my mom loves coming over here. She's here
610
00:24:57.769 --> 00:25:00.009
as much as I mean, she's here like every three
611
00:25:00.089 --> 00:25:02.849
to three months. And she loves it over here in
612
00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.450
the UK, especially being in London. So, yeah, I mean,
613
00:25:06.490 --> 00:25:10.390
but my daughter, yeah, it's she'd be she Ireland for sure.
614
00:25:10.970 --> 00:25:12.950
I'm answering for her and she would get upset that
615
00:25:12.990 --> 00:25:14.569
I'm answering for her, but I'm answering right.
616
00:25:14.809 --> 00:25:17.440
And what about, because you seem to love Ireland. If
617
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.930
it was Ireland versus America in the World Cup final,
618
00:25:20.309 --> 00:25:21.549
who would you be supporting?
619
00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:27.670
America laughing in your daughter's face. I got to hold,
620
00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:31.240
I got to hold the fort down, you know? I mean,
621
00:25:31.299 --> 00:25:32.779
at that point, that's what it's about, right?
622
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.220
I remember being in New York, uh, in, in the
623
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.720
world cup and, and all my friends from all over
624
00:25:37.740 --> 00:25:39.680
the world. And you'd be at this bar at this
625
00:25:40.059 --> 00:25:42.140
time in the morning, you know, watching their team. And
626
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.410
I was like, this is just cool. Like everybody, you know, it's,
627
00:25:45.509 --> 00:25:48.329
it's your time. So we don't win much in America
628
00:25:48.349 --> 00:25:49.309
and on the men's side.
629
00:25:49.450 --> 00:25:54.450
So, you know, So she's 10 now, so she's still
630
00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:58.559
at primary school, but secondary school is sort of looming.
631
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.980
How different is the schooling here to America? Have you
632
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.960
noticed those differences when you're dropping her off compared to
633
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.289
your experiences growing up?
634
00:26:07.170 --> 00:26:12.269
Definitely my experiences growing up a little different. But I
635
00:26:12.289 --> 00:26:14.390
went to private school when I was younger, so.
636
00:26:14.309 --> 00:26:15.369
I remember that.
637
00:26:15.970 --> 00:26:20.059
I think the the biggest thing for me is understanding,
638
00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:22.369
you know, how they have to change schools. So that
639
00:26:22.420 --> 00:26:25.029
secondary school thing, just trying to understand that and catching
640
00:26:25.049 --> 00:26:27.150
up with that. So I'm always asking a bunch of
641
00:26:27.190 --> 00:26:30.069
questions because that whole process is, is just new to
642
00:26:30.109 --> 00:26:33.630
me and, and how intense it is for parents. You know,
643
00:26:33.670 --> 00:26:36.509
they're just losing it right now. I mean, I'm, I'm,
644
00:26:36.609 --> 00:26:38.390
I'm staying as calm as possible.
645
00:26:38.470 --> 00:26:41.539
And I mean, maybe that's, Maybe I should be losing
646
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.400
it and starting to panic a little more. But, you know,
647
00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:45.069
they're serious.
648
00:26:45.109 --> 00:26:47.569
Like, I didn't think it wasn't like this until I
649
00:26:47.609 --> 00:26:48.890
was choosing what university I.
650
00:26:48.890 --> 00:26:51.619
Was going to go to. Yeah. Not like this. You know,
651
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:51.980
I'm like.
652
00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:55.839
It's like, man, it's like, it's going to change their
653
00:26:55.859 --> 00:26:58.500
whole life. So what secondary school they go to, but
654
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:00.359
it's just a part of how it is out here.
655
00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:02.519
So I'm, I'm catching up and I got a lot
656
00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:05.019
of people educating me on it and trying to learn
657
00:27:05.059 --> 00:27:06.819
more every day because it's right around the corner.
658
00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:08.859
I do think it's got a bit over the top.
659
00:27:09.089 --> 00:27:12.109
I think people didn't really care about education that much
660
00:27:12.329 --> 00:27:14.849
a few years ago. Now everyone is going mad and like,
661
00:27:14.869 --> 00:27:16.150
they've got to do this so that they can get
662
00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:17.849
the right level. They need to go to that primary
663
00:27:17.869 --> 00:27:19.910
school to get the right level plus, because if they
664
00:27:19.950 --> 00:27:21.670
pass that, they can go to a grammar school and,
665
00:27:21.829 --> 00:27:23.109
And then once they're in the grammar school, they've got
666
00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:24.769
to make sure they get those SATs so then they
667
00:27:24.789 --> 00:27:28.210
can sit those GCSEs in it. Oh, my God.
668
00:27:28.230 --> 00:27:30.269
It's a lot of pressure on the kids, man.
669
00:27:30.410 --> 00:27:32.130
So much pressure. And we don't even know who they
670
00:27:32.390 --> 00:27:34.490
are as far as what they want to do. Like,
671
00:27:34.549 --> 00:27:36.859
let them let them figure out their path. The best
672
00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:39.670
thing is, is if they identify what they want to
673
00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:42.140
do and then you support them. Like, isn't that what
674
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.759
we're here for? Like, OK, this is what direction you
675
00:27:44.779 --> 00:27:46.859
want to go. Let me do everything I can to
676
00:27:46.900 --> 00:27:47.539
help you get there.
677
00:27:48.069 --> 00:27:50.130
At what age did you go, this is it, I'm
678
00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:52.150
going for this, this is what I could be, an
679
00:27:53.130 --> 00:27:58.170
American footballer? Well, not an American footballer, you just said.
680
00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:00.910
Yeah. Really weird.
681
00:28:01.609 --> 00:28:04.230
When I was young, I loved the sport, and I
682
00:28:04.289 --> 00:28:07.410
loved playing with the sport with my friends, and all
683
00:28:07.450 --> 00:28:09.430
I wanted to do was continue to do that, so...
684
00:28:10.009 --> 00:28:13.049
Because I had so much joy playing this game, I
685
00:28:13.109 --> 00:28:15.059
wanted to do it and continue. So I had to
686
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.430
do it in high school. And then I wanted to
687
00:28:17.470 --> 00:28:19.940
keep going. I had to go to college. And in college,
688
00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:21.799
I wanted to go pro because I never wanted it
689
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.839
to stop. So I never told myself I want to
690
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.299
be a professional athlete. I want to be a professional
691
00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:31.240
football player. I just wanted to keep playing football. And
692
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.420
I never skipped a stage or a step. And I
693
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.880
think that's what gave me an advantage because I knew
694
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.880
what work it took that day to get to tomorrow.
695
00:28:41.269 --> 00:28:44.890
And tomorrow I could see it wasn't like this futuristic thing.
696
00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:46.829
And I think a lot of people, they had this
697
00:28:47.009 --> 00:28:51.029
end goal. So they got caught up and consumed with that,
698
00:28:51.130 --> 00:28:52.910
which I was like, I don't know what the end
699
00:28:52.950 --> 00:28:55.089
is going to be, but I know if I do
700
00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:59.549
these things, I can play tomorrow. And that was the
701
00:28:59.589 --> 00:29:01.170
whole thing. I remember I just want to go to
702
00:29:01.230 --> 00:29:05.380
college because I want to continue my education. Wanted to
703
00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:09.099
be free, but take that pressure off my parents. And
704
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.619
I want to, you know, and I want to play,
705
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.539
play football. So once I was in school in UCLA
706
00:29:15.579 --> 00:29:18.039
and I, I knew I was good after about my
707
00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:21.039
second year, I was starting and I was young and
708
00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:23.339
I was like, I may, I think I can make
709
00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:26.569
it to the pros and I got hurt. So I
710
00:29:26.650 --> 00:29:29.609
almost didn't, but everything I did at that point in
711
00:29:29.670 --> 00:29:32.589
time was I wanted to keep playing. I just wanted
712
00:29:32.630 --> 00:29:35.210
to keep playing. It wasn't even about the money or
713
00:29:35.329 --> 00:29:37.569
anything like that. I just wanted to play the game.
714
00:29:38.230 --> 00:29:40.930
And that was always my approach. it's everything I do
715
00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:42.869
to this point is do I want to do it
716
00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:46.880
and then I put all my effort towards that and
717
00:29:46.890 --> 00:29:50.650
then the monetary gain usually just comes because I've worked
718
00:29:50.670 --> 00:29:51.430
really hard.
719
00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:53.319
That's the thing isn't it it's doing it for the
720
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.380
sake of wanting to do it and then you're enjoying
721
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.480
it and you're passionate about it and you're that there's
722
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.589
such a good lesson across everything you do as a
723
00:30:03.619 --> 00:30:06.369
kind of in life that you'll get so much more
724
00:30:06.430 --> 00:30:08.049
out of it. It's like, you know, when you see
725
00:30:08.109 --> 00:30:10.710
parents pushing their kids into something, if that kid's not
726
00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:13.769
passionate about it, they're just going to resent it. You've
727
00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:15.769
got to be doing the thing you want to be doing.
728
00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:17.339
Otherwise it's pointless.
729
00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:20.740
I like watching like football when you see like players
730
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.420
that look sad. And I feel like, I feel like
731
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.319
they've had too much pressure from their parents as kids
732
00:30:25.380 --> 00:30:27.160
and they don't enjoy playing. And then you see people
733
00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:31.460
like Jack Grealish, who plays soccer, just loves it, smile
734
00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:35.119
on his face. How does the education work in America then?
735
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.480
If you're really talented at football and you're like 13, 14,
736
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.980
in the UK, if you're super talented at football and
737
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.680
you're with a club at Arsenal, Chelsea, whatever, they don't
738
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.200
even bother going to school really. You just think, fuck this,
739
00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:51.420
I'm just going to play football, get my pro contract.
740
00:30:51.789 --> 00:30:53.569
And when they turn pro at like 17, 18, they
741
00:30:54.170 --> 00:30:56.079
haven't got any qualifications and don't care.
742
00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:58.599
A lot of them, they don't turn pro. That's the thing.
743
00:30:59.299 --> 00:31:01.940
The pick-up's so small. So it's really like you're going
744
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:02.759
all in, right?
745
00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:04.460
Yeah, that's the thing. Exactly.
746
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.809
But in America, you stay in education all the way
747
00:31:07.869 --> 00:31:10.609
through to college, university, before you get picked for the NFL.
748
00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:14.789
What if you're not very academic and you get shit grades?
749
00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:17.430
Do they just ignore it and let you play because
750
00:31:17.450 --> 00:31:18.849
you're a good player? How does it work? There must
751
00:31:18.890 --> 00:31:19.859
be a bit of a conflict.
752
00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:21.579
Or do you have to get the grades?
753
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.960
Yeah, you got to go to school and get the
754
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.019
grades because the way the system's set up. They don't
755
00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:27.779
have a feeder system the same way football does in
756
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.700
this country, right? Like baseball kind of has that in America,
757
00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:34.190
but they don't have a system like that. So to
758
00:31:34.410 --> 00:31:37.690
kind of be involved to where you can be involved
759
00:31:37.930 --> 00:31:40.150
picked up you have to be in the college system
760
00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:43.849
or something like that and obviously the game of football
761
00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:47.410
in the nfl is such a physical game like uh
762
00:31:47.569 --> 00:31:49.470
from a skill set you can't look at a 13
763
00:31:49.470 --> 00:31:52.039
year old and and and really know if they got
764
00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:54.599
it or they don't i mean there's certain things uh
765
00:31:54.700 --> 00:31:56.700
because you know football in this country is such a
766
00:31:56.819 --> 00:32:00.039
skill sport let's be honest it's a skill sport but
767
00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:03.259
when you talk about american football in the nfl i
768
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.680
mean think of all the different body types Uh, think
769
00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:06.819
of how physical it is.
770
00:32:06.900 --> 00:32:09.589
Right. It takes a while for those things to happen.
771
00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:13.230
You can see like quarterbacks that might have it, you know,
772
00:32:13.289 --> 00:32:14.930
you can, you can see that, but then they got
773
00:32:14.950 --> 00:32:15.329
to grow.
774
00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:17.750
Right. And then that, that happens later on in life
775
00:32:18.380 --> 00:32:20.240
and things like that. So, yeah.
776
00:32:20.579 --> 00:32:25.240
Um, Most guys have to be good in school and
777
00:32:25.299 --> 00:32:27.119
have to focus on it. And it says a lot
778
00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:29.960
about you, period, because it's such a cerebral game that
779
00:32:30.059 --> 00:32:32.819
in the NFL, the guys that last are smart in
780
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.539
all honesty. And it's because we're playing chess on grass.
781
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:37.819
Right.
782
00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:40.599
At any moment, we have to adjust like I'm eliminating
783
00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:43.170
things you can do. When I'm on the field, I've
784
00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:46.490
studied so much that I can look at the situation
785
00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:49.170
where we are on the field, what's on the clock,
786
00:32:49.390 --> 00:32:53.579
down in distance, what your formation is. And all of
787
00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:56.319
this is happening in 20, 30 seconds. I can now
788
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:57.869
say these are the three things you can do to me.
789
00:32:58.440 --> 00:32:58.779
Right.
790
00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:02.640
And I've seen really athletic people that can't do that. Well,
791
00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:05.640
now you're playing everything. You're playing every odd when I've
792
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:06.990
just eliminated half of it.
793
00:33:07.460 --> 00:33:10.460
And yeah, so it doesn't matter how physically talented you
794
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.019
are if you can't narrow down what they can do.
795
00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:16.049
I got you. I got you.
796
00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:18.230
So like a friend of mine just got the head
797
00:33:18.289 --> 00:33:22.039
coaching job for the Las Vegas Raiders. He's a tough player.
798
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.440
His name's Antonio Pierce. We grew up together. Smartest guy
799
00:33:24.460 --> 00:33:26.259
I've ever seen on the field. We'd be in the
800
00:33:26.299 --> 00:33:28.920
game and he'd just tell you, it's going this way.
801
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:34.670
Do this. Stop. Look at that. Just amazing. And That's
802
00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:37.930
how he was in the classroom. Same guy. So, I mean,
803
00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:40.079
you know, smart players last. Right.
804
00:33:40.099 --> 00:33:42.079
So they sort of need that, you know, it's almost
805
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.099
like a physical equation that you're working out mid-game.
806
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.849
Yeah, always. So, yep, the smartest players.
807
00:33:48.930 --> 00:33:51.750
Who's your team? Josh, you've got a team, haven't you?
808
00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:55.150
Who's your NFL team? I like Cincinnati too. I like
809
00:33:55.190 --> 00:33:57.150
the quarterback. I like Joe Burrow. I'm a big fan
810
00:33:57.170 --> 00:33:59.230
of his. Well, I.
811
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:03.410
I came back to NFL this year because I've become
812
00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:05.420
a bit disillusioned with the Premier League and I was like,
813
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.210
I'm going to start watching NFL again. and Cincinnati went
814
00:34:08.250 --> 00:34:09.230
down the fucking pan.
815
00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.869
Well, your quarterback got hurt early, you know, and then
816
00:34:11.909 --> 00:34:13.090
he got hurt late. I know, I was like, what's
817
00:34:13.110 --> 00:34:15.329
wrong with me? He got hurt, but he'll be back.
818
00:34:15.570 --> 00:34:16.809
You're in good hands, he'll be back.
819
00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:17.889
Next year, next year.
820
00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:21.579
No, but surely, if you're British, you're allowed to glory
821
00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:24.380
hunt and pick the best team. I liked their helmets
822
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:25.400
when I was a kid, Rob.
823
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.699
And then when I came back, everyone was like, you've
824
00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:28.719
got a good team here, mate.
825
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:29.380
Yeah, yeah.
826
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.360
Y'all deserve to pick whoever you want because, you know,
827
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:37.280
you were born into your English clubs, man.
828
00:34:37.460 --> 00:34:39.019
Oh, my gosh. I know.
829
00:34:39.099 --> 00:34:40.280
It's tribal, isn't it?
830
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:41.679
I love it, though.
831
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:42.360
It's mad.
832
00:34:42.659 --> 00:34:43.989
I think it's so cool.
833
00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:46.869
Have you taken your daughter to any games? Yeah, yeah.
834
00:34:46.909 --> 00:34:47.670
She's been to a few.
835
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:51.519
And what's it like? Does she enjoy it?
836
00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:54.849
Her first game was an Arsenal game. She was very young.
837
00:34:55.289 --> 00:34:58.829
And a friend of mine who's American loves Arsenal, season
838
00:34:58.869 --> 00:35:01.190
ticket holder. And we had her drawing stuff. We had
839
00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:03.429
her having all the food. She got the full experience.
840
00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:06.239
Then I took her to a Tottenham game, and she
841
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:07.019
was the mascot.
842
00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:09.980
Oh, wow. She walked out, and I'm like.
843
00:35:11.150 --> 00:35:14.210
So I know Harry Kane because he's a big football fan.
844
00:35:14.349 --> 00:35:16.289
And I'm like, Harry, this is my daughter, you know?
845
00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:18.409
And he's like, okay, I might get her. And he
846
00:35:18.449 --> 00:35:20.150
walked out with her. And she comes back. She was like,
847
00:35:20.269 --> 00:35:22.489
I hope my partner does well. I was like, you
848
00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:23.219
don't even know.
849
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:29.039
You don't even know. I was like, little do you know.
850
00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:30.420
And he scored two goals.
851
00:35:31.489 --> 00:35:34.090
That's amazing. It's mad though, isn't it? Because like, you know,
852
00:35:34.150 --> 00:35:38.210
from your connections and your career in finance and football,
853
00:35:38.489 --> 00:35:42.000
and then her mum, who's a world famous pop star,
854
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:46.139
the opportunities and experiences she's getting at the age of 10,
855
00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:49.420
it's mind blowing. Do you worry sometimes that she's living
856
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.630
this world that, You know, it's sort of alien to
857
00:35:52.650 --> 00:35:54.670
most people and she might not be even realizing it yet.
858
00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:57.269
I would love to hold Harry Kane's hand. I haven't
859
00:35:57.309 --> 00:35:58.269
had an opportunity.
860
00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:02.110
I know. It was so cool. It was so cool, man.
861
00:36:02.150 --> 00:36:04.289
Her grandfather's a big Tottenham fan, so it was good
862
00:36:04.329 --> 00:36:05.090
for the whole family.
863
00:36:05.829 --> 00:36:08.329
Do I worry about that? No, because she doesn't. She
864
00:36:08.349 --> 00:36:11.570
doesn't live like that. These are moments, right? They're just
865
00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:14.989
things that happen and they're moments. But that's not the
866
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:17.659
day to day. The day to day is she's on
867
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.219
the bus with me, you know, literally.
868
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.900
I mean, it's, it's normal. It's normal.
869
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.360
And that's because of her mom. Her mom is just
870
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.960
relaxed and normal. And, you know, she's the star, but
871
00:36:31.019 --> 00:36:34.139
she operates just low key.
872
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:34.960
And that's why.
873
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.929
And you, I, I, Are you going to go and
874
00:36:37.989 --> 00:36:40.349
take her to watch Girls Aloud at the O2, Jason?
875
00:36:40.369 --> 00:36:42.769
Because I'm trying to get my daughter into Girls Aloud.
876
00:36:43.030 --> 00:36:45.170
She's into the Spice Girls. If I can get her
877
00:36:45.289 --> 00:36:47.710
into Girls Aloud before June.
878
00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:48.949
Then I can take her.
879
00:36:48.969 --> 00:36:50.889
But if I go without her, I'm going to look
880
00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:51.849
fucking weird.
881
00:36:51.989 --> 00:36:55.110
It's a good show, man. Back in the day, I
882
00:36:55.110 --> 00:36:57.659
took like four of my teammates and they were like,
883
00:36:57.739 --> 00:36:58.960
this is amazing, man.
884
00:36:58.980 --> 00:36:59.699
This is cool.
885
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.679
I was like i told y'all.
886
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.159
Um anaya is going with her mom she's getting a
887
00:37:04.179 --> 00:37:06.280
whole she's she's going to be living a different life
888
00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.260
for that so yeah i'm trying to get a great
889
00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:12.019
experience so me and you both i.
890
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:13.659
Think josh has already got the tickets he just needs
891
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.889
to convince his daughter that she likes him otherwise he
892
00:37:15.909 --> 00:37:17.710
looks like a nutter hey.
893
00:37:17.550 --> 00:37:21.150
Call me i'll go with you let me know man
894
00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:25.010
imagine you two walking into the o2 together and just
895
00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:29.110
people going those two mates we'll have a good time
896
00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:32.809
man we'll have a good time I know all the.
897
00:37:32.769 --> 00:37:35.630
Songs yeah we all know all the songs oh they're
898
00:37:35.650 --> 00:37:39.070
great oh man Rob you should come your daughters can
899
00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:40.309
get into Girls Aloud.
900
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.500
They like Girls Aloud already yeah well yeah I want
901
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.940
to take them to a concert but yeah normally you
902
00:37:46.980 --> 00:37:48.940
normally wait for your child to say I want to
903
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.219
go and see this band rather than you convincing them
904
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.239
like Girls Aloud I mean we're having a conversation about.
905
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:58.679
Letting them be themselves and look at us.
906
00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:03.530
As long as they go to the right gigs that's
907
00:38:03.550 --> 00:38:07.190
what i say oh man so um because you're you
908
00:38:07.230 --> 00:38:10.429
work the uh with the nfl academy at um loughborough
909
00:38:10.489 --> 00:38:12.730
and so what it's like if if i had a
910
00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:16.889
kid here who was really good uh showing a real
911
00:38:16.949 --> 00:38:19.550
interest in american football like what would be the route
912
00:38:19.769 --> 00:38:22.989
for them I'll be honest, it's hypothetical. My daughter's not
913
00:38:23.030 --> 00:38:25.780
even into Girls Aloud, let alone NFL yet.
914
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.000
She's got a tough weekend. Right, get this helmet on
915
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.960
and listen to the sound of the underground. We've got
916
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.699
a busy weekend. Why are we on the train to Loughborough, Daddy?
917
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.719
Shut up. Just be yourself. Oh, that's good.
918
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.940
What's the kind of route for a British child if
919
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.590
they're really into American football then?
920
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.380
Oh, well, luckily they have tryouts, which don't really exist
921
00:38:50.539 --> 00:38:52.599
anywhere else where you can just go try out.
922
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.840
And they go try out, you know, how fast can
923
00:38:55.860 --> 00:38:56.099
you run?
924
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.760
How high can you jump? And we understand that most
925
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.800
kids aren't trained to do it. So they can look
926
00:39:00.889 --> 00:39:03.809
at the core skill sets and say there's something there.
927
00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:06.789
And that's a lot of them have been discovered like that.
928
00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:09.550
They play different sports. So you can look at the
929
00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:12.360
cross pollination. You know, if you're a rugby player, you know,
930
00:39:12.389 --> 00:39:14.559
a lot of guys that play football have great footwork,
931
00:39:14.699 --> 00:39:17.539
you know, short area quickness, which is all NFL stuff.
932
00:39:17.579 --> 00:39:21.780
So, yeah. And in reality, a lot of big guys
933
00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:24.369
out here don't have anywhere to go. Like they don't
934
00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:25.630
have a sport, you.
935
00:39:25.570 --> 00:39:27.530
Know, it's basically heavyweight boxing.
936
00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:30.630
Right. I see kids walking down. the street. I'm like,
937
00:39:30.670 --> 00:39:33.389
have you ever tried football? And they're like, Oh, I've
938
00:39:33.429 --> 00:39:36.260
seen you before. And I'm like, why don't you try
939
00:39:36.389 --> 00:39:36.760
it out?
940
00:39:38.340 --> 00:39:40.159
I should just say that's creepier than me going to
941
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:41.039
girls aloud alone.
942
00:39:41.099 --> 00:39:43.079
I know. I know. I didn't think it through. I'm
943
00:39:43.099 --> 00:39:45.050
just like, have you ever seen an offensive tackle before?
944
00:39:45.070 --> 00:39:45.139
Yeah.
945
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.559
You should just.
946
00:39:46.469 --> 00:39:49.260
Go to like, you should wander around nightclubs and speak
947
00:39:49.300 --> 00:39:53.050
to the bouncers, the younger ones. They're serious.
948
00:39:53.530 --> 00:39:55.590
That's a good move. That's a good move.
949
00:39:55.610 --> 00:39:57.929
Just get the 18, 19 year olds. I don't, they
950
00:39:57.949 --> 00:40:00.190
can get, they don't. Also, I think most of the
951
00:40:00.250 --> 00:40:02.409
people that are that big that'll be suitable to NFL
952
00:40:02.809 --> 00:40:04.949
are criminals because they're used to fear.
953
00:40:04.969 --> 00:40:05.230
Yeah.
954
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.139
To enforce bailiffs, stuff like that.
955
00:40:10.900 --> 00:40:12.219
I was thinking of it because I don't go to
956
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.340
nightclubs anymore, but this could be my excuse. I was
957
00:40:14.380 --> 00:40:16.179
looking for the big guy.
958
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:18.690
This is what we're doing. Me, Josh, Jason. I wasn't
959
00:40:18.750 --> 00:40:21.349
even trying to go to the club. Let's go to
960
00:40:21.369 --> 00:40:24.789
a nightclub after girls are loud. We'll go to the
961
00:40:24.829 --> 00:40:28.710
venue in New Cross and we'll go scouting for NFL players.
962
00:40:28.909 --> 00:40:30.650
We're trying to help the kids.
963
00:40:30.929 --> 00:40:31.349
Exactly.
964
00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:32.750
Let's be honest. We're trying not.
965
00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:39.179
The kid who's gone, the Welsh kid, who's a rugby player,
966
00:40:39.219 --> 00:40:42.599
rugby union, he's super talented, one of the best young
967
00:40:42.619 --> 00:40:45.539
players in the Welsh rugby union team and was going
968
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.079
to get called up for the Six Nations. And, you know,
969
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.840
essentially in rugby, it doesn't get bigger than that. That
970
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.460
sort of, you know, there's the World Cup and Six
971
00:40:52.510 --> 00:40:54.949
Nations is mega. Now he's gone to NFL on like
972
00:40:54.969 --> 00:40:57.050
a development programme. I know that's not necessarily the thing
973
00:40:57.090 --> 00:41:00.730
you're involved with in Loughborough, but like the money difference
974
00:41:00.829 --> 00:41:03.969
to play in rugby union to NFL is huge. So
975
00:41:04.309 --> 00:41:05.949
even if he goes there for a few years, could
976
00:41:05.969 --> 00:41:09.550
he become sort of financially stable just by getting drafted
977
00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:12.050
for a couple of years and then drifting back to rugby?
978
00:41:12.070 --> 00:41:14.309
Is that something you could achieve or do you have
979
00:41:14.329 --> 00:41:16.260
to wait to get to the top before the money comes?
980
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:19.219
I mean, obviously at the top, the real money is there.
981
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.539
And I'll be honest, I don't know rugby salaries and wages,
982
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:23.940
so I can't speak to that.
983
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.579
But I know the minimum salaries in the NFL are
984
00:41:26.619 --> 00:41:28.920
pretty high compared to other sports.
985
00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:32.260
What's the minimum salary? Is that public knowledge, the minimum salary?
986
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.820
It's public knowledge. Yeah, it's public knowledge.
987
00:41:33.860 --> 00:41:36.269
It goes up every year, so it could change next year.
988
00:41:36.289 --> 00:41:40.409
So I could say something that is wrong. But it's
989
00:41:40.469 --> 00:41:43.389
quite high, and it goes up every year. I think
990
00:41:43.429 --> 00:41:46.030
it maxed out around year 10 for the minimum. But
991
00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:49.110
if you last that long, you're getting– you've probably– signed
992
00:41:49.139 --> 00:41:52.260
a significant deal so yeah it's it's it's some crazy
993
00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:54.360
money out there it really is.
994
00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:56.099
And goes park figure for that or should i try
995
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:56.659
and look it up.
996
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.699
You try to look it up yeah i don't.
997
00:41:58.420 --> 00:42:02.159
Want to just say something minimum salary yeah because it's
998
00:42:02.179 --> 00:42:05.380
just so huge in uh in america and around the
999
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.519
world i mean it's like oh in 2021 it was
1000
00:42:07.539 --> 00:42:08.599
like that in 2022 it was 705 000 a year
1001
00:42:14.130 --> 00:42:16.130
That's the minimum you can get paid if you get drafted.
1002
00:42:16.429 --> 00:42:17.429
Exactly. Blimey.
1003
00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:20.730
You know, so, you know, I mean, quarterbacks, your top
1004
00:42:20.769 --> 00:42:23.159
quarterbacks are getting 50 plus million dollars a year.
1005
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:24.159
Jesus.
1006
00:42:25.500 --> 00:42:28.760
That's your, that's your top quarterbacks. And to be honest,
1007
00:42:28.780 --> 00:42:31.039
the next guy that gets paid is we call them
1008
00:42:31.059 --> 00:42:33.659
the defensive ends. It's what my buddy OC played and
1009
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.389
you're on defense and you're trying to rush the quarterback.
1010
00:42:36.429 --> 00:42:38.469
So quarterback gets paid the most. And then the guy
1011
00:42:38.489 --> 00:42:41.949
that gets the quarterback. Yeah. is number two, you know,
1012
00:42:42.230 --> 00:42:43.389
and then everything works out.
1013
00:42:43.650 --> 00:42:46.210
And usually the guys on the outside get paid more
1014
00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:48.039
than the guys on the inside, because if you're.
1015
00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:50.900
On the outside, you're kind of in one-on-one situations, right?
1016
00:42:50.940 --> 00:42:52.960
You don't have help. So that's kind of how the
1017
00:42:52.980 --> 00:42:57.360
game works besides the quarterback. And yeah, so a lot
1018
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:57.699
of money.
1019
00:42:58.409 --> 00:43:00.530
You got injured. It sort of cut your career slightly short.
1020
00:43:00.550 --> 00:43:02.389
How old were you when you had to retire?
1021
00:43:02.809 --> 00:43:04.500
I retired at 30.
1022
00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:06.900
Yeah, so that was younger than it should have been.
1023
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.690
And how did that affect you? How old are you.
1024
00:43:09.670 --> 00:43:10.250
Now, Jason?
1025
00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:12.590
I'm 45, but I would have retired probably.
1026
00:43:12.630 --> 00:43:15.469
I had maybe a year or two left. I mean,
1027
00:43:15.469 --> 00:43:17.550
30 in the NFL. You made it to 30. I
1028
00:43:17.590 --> 00:43:19.429
was getting called the old guy, you know.
1029
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.000
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.
1030
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:22.940
It's a young man's game.
1031
00:43:23.019 --> 00:43:25.960
It's the recovery from the, you know, from week to week.
1032
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:39.269
It's just. it's tough. You can still run, jump and
1033
00:43:39.329 --> 00:43:41.269
all that, but it's just bouncing back.
1034
00:43:41.530 --> 00:43:44.099
You know, quarterbacks, they can play into their forties because
1035
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.440
they're protected and, and the way the position is. But yeah,
1036
00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:50.019
when you're, uh, when you're out there trying to have
1037
00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:53.019
speed and reaction time, it changes quickly.
1038
00:43:53.460 --> 00:43:56.030
I play five aside football. I know it's different, Jason,
1039
00:43:56.489 --> 00:43:59.110
but like I'm 38, but when a 29 year old
1040
00:43:59.150 --> 00:44:01.329
turns up and even that's old, I'm like, this fuck
1041
00:44:01.389 --> 00:44:03.110
is too quick. That shouldn't be allowed.
1042
00:44:03.409 --> 00:44:05.710
Imagine you had to play five aside every single day.
1043
00:44:05.730 --> 00:44:11.590
Oh, I didn't play for a little while, Jason, right?
1044
00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:13.349
About six months. I had a bit of an injury,
1045
00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:14.639
and then I just fell out the loop of it,
1046
00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:16.690
and I'd been a bit unhealthy, drinking and going out
1047
00:44:16.710 --> 00:44:18.110
and partying. My mate went, do you want to come
1048
00:44:18.150 --> 00:44:19.909
and play Father's Side? I went, yes, I want to
1049
00:44:19.949 --> 00:44:23.329
play Father's Side, right? Loved it. Didn't stretch, obviously. Scored
1050
00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:25.829
a couple of goals. Got it back. Here we go.
1051
00:44:26.070 --> 00:44:27.010
Didn't warm down.
1052
00:44:27.369 --> 00:44:27.849
Went to bed.
1053
00:44:27.969 --> 00:44:29.469
Woke up in the middle of the night. Went to
1054
00:44:29.489 --> 00:44:32.650
the kitchen to get a drink. I was naked, okay?
1055
00:44:32.670 --> 00:44:36.510
But you understand why it's more cumulative, innit? And I sneezed.
1056
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:40.530
And the sneeze hurt my whole body so much from
1057
00:44:40.570 --> 00:44:43.280
when I played football. I fell to the floor. You
1058
00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:46.639
know when Schwarzenegger at the start of Terminator is naked
1059
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.400
on the floor of that? I was like that. And
1060
00:44:48.579 --> 00:44:50.059
I thought, this is not okay.
1061
00:44:50.099 --> 00:44:50.900
You were done.
1062
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.920
I sneezed and fell to the floor. It was pathetic.
1063
00:44:54.059 --> 00:44:55.440
You see, it's the recovery.
1064
00:44:55.699 --> 00:44:57.739
It feels like you've exposed yourself to a neighbour through
1065
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.090
the window and this is your excuse.
1066
00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:00.389
No, no, no, no.
1067
00:45:00.449 --> 00:45:02.369
You can go back and sneeze and I fail.
1068
00:45:02.710 --> 00:45:03.030
Yeah.
1069
00:45:04.590 --> 00:45:06.309
And the Hoover was at my ass. That was just
1070
00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:08.239
a mistake. I was just walking past it.
1071
00:45:08.269 --> 00:45:10.199
Just trying to clean that shit in the middle of
1072
00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:15.679
the night. Stop judging me. Shut your fucking curtains.
1073
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.460
What did your daughter make of you going on Strictly?
1074
00:45:18.820 --> 00:45:20.719
She loved it. She enjoyed it. She was a fan
1075
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.159
of the show. Yeah, that's part of the reason I
1076
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.489
did it. I knew how much of a fan she was. Yeah,
1077
00:45:26.550 --> 00:45:28.530
we'd watched it a lot. It was one of the
1078
00:45:28.570 --> 00:45:30.489
first shows I watched when I came to this country.
1079
00:45:30.530 --> 00:45:32.829
I was like, oh, this is cool. Yeah.
1080
00:45:33.789 --> 00:45:36.070
And I was that that was a part of it
1081
00:45:36.610 --> 00:45:40.519
that I was really nervous about. But yet I knew
1082
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.320
I had to do it because I'm telling her every
1083
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.940
day when she goes to school, be resilient, try new things.
1084
00:45:46.300 --> 00:45:49.030
You know, it doesn't matter if you win or lose,
1085
00:45:49.070 --> 00:45:52.489
you know, successes in taking on the challenge. And then
1086
00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:54.750
I have this thing I'm really scared of that I'm
1087
00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:57.750
intimidated by. And I'm like, I'm not.
1088
00:45:57.630 --> 00:45:59.070
Going to do this. And then I'm thinking, well, I'm
1089
00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:00.090
not doing it because I'm scared.
1090
00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:04.920
But I can't I've always lived this way where I
1091
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.760
when I feel really nervous about something, I evaluate it.
1092
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.809
And if it's because I'm scared, I just do it.
1093
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:13.949
If it's because it isn't good, I won't.
1094
00:46:13.989 --> 00:46:18.030
But if it's if I'm finding excuses because I am intimidated,
1095
00:46:18.429 --> 00:46:20.469
I'm like, I have to do this because I got
1096
00:46:20.489 --> 00:46:21.349
to learn from it.
1097
00:46:21.750 --> 00:46:22.630
And that was strictly.
1098
00:46:23.309 --> 00:46:26.050
And so if I don't want to be a fraud
1099
00:46:26.090 --> 00:46:28.500
to my daughter every time I've taken her to school,
1100
00:46:29.469 --> 00:46:31.769
And the words I'm coming out are authentic because I
1101
00:46:31.809 --> 00:46:34.929
know deep inside I'm scared of... I just punked out.
1102
00:46:35.309 --> 00:46:37.679
I didn't do something because I was scared. That's why
1103
00:46:37.699 --> 00:46:40.699
I did it. And I'm so glad because I learned
1104
00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:43.119
some things about myself that I thought I knew.
1105
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:44.900
They were confirmed.
1106
00:46:45.500 --> 00:46:49.420
But yet I also learned other things about myself that
1107
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.519
I wouldn't have learned if I wasn't on that show
1108
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.239
because it was completely out of my comfort zone.
1109
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:54.480
Yeah, I bet.
1110
00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:55.539
What did you learn about yourself?
1111
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.280
I learned that... I always thought I....
1112
00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:04.789
Ran towards a challenge and I confirmed that. Um, when
1113
00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:07.070
the pressure was on, like when it was at its height,
1114
00:47:07.650 --> 00:47:09.860
I just was like, yeah, let's go.
1115
00:47:10.469 --> 00:47:13.300
You know, like the click. And I thought I had
1116
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:14.199
it in football. Right.
1117
00:47:14.260 --> 00:47:15.760
I knew I had it in the game I love.
1118
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.679
And you're like, is that just something that I'm comfortable with?
1119
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.539
Or is that just me? And it's strictly, I realized, no,
1120
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.739
I'll run, I'll run towards the wall. Like I'll do it. And,
1121
00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:28.340
and I also learned that I am really good. If
1122
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.170
I have a good teammate, And I've always been a
1123
00:47:31.210 --> 00:47:33.480
person that found great people to follow.
1124
00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:36.199
Yeah, that's why I'm struggling with this on this podcast.
1125
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:44.329
I wouldn't consider, I follow leaders. I'm a leader myself,
1126
00:47:44.429 --> 00:47:48.289
but I follow like real leaders. Like I find myself,
1127
00:47:48.530 --> 00:47:52.139
those are my best friends. And my partner Luba was
1128
00:47:52.219 --> 00:47:56.360
a leader. And she had that, she had that thing
1129
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.289
and I could, and I, and I, I could feed
1130
00:47:59.369 --> 00:48:02.329
off of it. And that's why we're friends today, really close.
1131
00:48:02.449 --> 00:48:04.969
And it's because she just like, I could see it
1132
00:48:05.010 --> 00:48:06.610
in her, like, I got you.
1133
00:48:06.710 --> 00:48:08.860
And I was like, yeah, you do. Let's go. You know?
1134
00:48:09.010 --> 00:48:12.880
And it just, yeah, it was really cool with that.
1135
00:48:13.019 --> 00:48:15.519
And I fight for people more than I fight for myself.
1136
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.699
And so I knew that it was important for her
1137
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.800
that we did well. And I was like, it made
1138
00:48:21.860 --> 00:48:22.559
me work hard.
1139
00:48:23.019 --> 00:48:26.500
Yeah, because they really care, the professionals. It's like, you know,
1140
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.619
it's their thing, isn't it? It's like if you're training
1141
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.780
someone in the NFL and they're like not really putting
1142
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.050
the effort in, it frustrates you. So you saying Josh
1143
00:48:33.070 --> 00:48:34.630
should do it as an example.
1144
00:48:34.269 --> 00:48:36.050
To his children. No, I'm not doing that.
1145
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.719
Because otherwise, if he keeps saying to his kids, no,
1146
00:48:38.739 --> 00:48:40.860
you've got to sometimes when it's tough and you're scared,
1147
00:48:41.059 --> 00:48:42.920
you've got to do it and it's okay to be scared.
1148
00:48:43.139 --> 00:48:44.849
If he's not doing it, what kind of fucking shit
1149
00:48:44.889 --> 00:48:45.650
is he talking about?
1150
00:48:45.670 --> 00:48:46.869
Dancing is embarrassing.
1151
00:48:46.969 --> 00:48:49.530
That's the first lesson I give them. Dancing's embarrassing.
1152
00:48:49.989 --> 00:48:50.869
No, it's not.
1153
00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:51.909
I'm joking.
1154
00:48:52.010 --> 00:48:54.690
You know, you know. Hey, go out there and do it.
1155
00:48:54.730 --> 00:48:55.880
Have a good time, you know.
1156
00:48:55.889 --> 00:48:57.800
That's it, Josh. I'll go and watch you.
1157
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.320
Yeah, that'd be the worst bit, Rob. I'd be struggling
1158
00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:03.460
around the dance floor and we'd catch eyes and I'd
1159
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:04.320
think I wish I was dead.
1160
00:49:06.590 --> 00:49:08.369
You'd be like, look at me. You see these feet?
1161
00:49:08.530 --> 00:49:11.340
Look at these feet.
1162
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:13.519
I think Josh should be quite good at that because
1163
00:49:13.539 --> 00:49:15.539
you're pretty good at music. You can play the guitar.
1164
00:49:15.590 --> 00:49:17.030
You've got rhythm. You love music.
1165
00:49:17.070 --> 00:49:19.969
I haven't got rhythm, Rob. I like listening to music.
1166
00:49:20.739 --> 00:49:22.039
But you can hear it.
1167
00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:23.900
If you can hear it, you can move, man.
1168
00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:27.159
You love music. He goes to Glastonbury sober, Jason.
1169
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.210
Let me ask you a question. Let's move the conversation on.
1170
00:49:30.230 --> 00:49:32.289
This isn't about me doing stuff. We were right there, too.
1171
00:49:32.329 --> 00:49:32.949
Here we go.
1172
00:49:36.510 --> 00:49:38.849
Does it feel like years ago when you had a
1173
00:49:38.909 --> 00:49:41.570
baby and you were up at night and all kinds
1174
00:49:41.590 --> 00:49:43.300
of stuff? What were you doing with your life at
1175
00:49:43.340 --> 00:49:46.619
that point? difficult was that must have been a hell
1176
00:49:46.659 --> 00:49:47.619
of a kind of change.
1177
00:49:48.099 --> 00:49:48.500
Oh yeah.
1178
00:49:48.539 --> 00:49:50.519
But I was prepared because my friend who was the
1179
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.539
coach that I said that got the job in Las Vegas,
1180
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.840
the smart guy, he calls it team no sleep.
1181
00:49:56.139 --> 00:49:58.059
He's like, Oh, get ready for team no sleep. And
1182
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.030
I was like, what are we talking about? He's like, Oh,
1183
00:50:01.050 --> 00:50:03.050
you just better get on team no sleep, man. And just,
1184
00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:05.550
and just embrace it. I was like, okay.
1185
00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:08.510
And it was, you know, it was, it was, you
1186
00:50:08.550 --> 00:50:11.570
were just in it, you know, luckily her mom was
1187
00:50:11.650 --> 00:50:12.659
brilliant and all that.
1188
00:50:13.389 --> 00:50:16.579
But, yeah, just you're in it. And it flew by.
1189
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.840
And I look back at it and I just I
1190
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:20.329
enjoyed it.
1191
00:50:20.380 --> 00:50:20.929
I loved it.
1192
00:50:21.019 --> 00:50:23.980
It was it's a challenge for everybody in their own way.
1193
00:50:25.420 --> 00:50:28.360
But I'm just so happy that I was able to
1194
00:50:28.420 --> 00:50:29.260
partake in it all.
1195
00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:32.380
Right. It just is. It's like an honor to be
1196
00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:32.780
a parent.
1197
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:38.050
It really is. It's just an honor like and. you know,
1198
00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:40.550
you look at all those things and you just go, wow,
1199
00:50:40.690 --> 00:50:43.730
I survived it. We made it through, you know, kind of.
1200
00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:45.289
Because if he was playing football, it's supposed to be
1201
00:50:45.309 --> 00:50:47.880
so hard to have a family and keep that schedule
1202
00:50:47.889 --> 00:50:49.820
because it is nonstop when the season's on.
1203
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.920
Yeah, I was retired, luckily, you know.
1204
00:50:51.940 --> 00:50:52.079
Yeah.
1205
00:50:53.739 --> 00:50:56.679
And so I was able to be there and be
1206
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.860
locked in. But yeah, I've seen some of my teammates
1207
00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:02.840
during the season and they'd come in the locker room
1208
00:51:02.860 --> 00:51:04.820
and you just looked at them like, oh no, this
1209
00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:06.039
is going to be a hard day.
1210
00:51:05.909 --> 00:51:11.730
For you, buddy. You didn't sleep, did you? I think
1211
00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:12.809
that's quite key.
1212
00:51:12.829 --> 00:51:15.989
If you just accept that you will probably get about
1213
00:51:16.090 --> 00:51:18.889
six hours sleep a night and you're up from 6am,
1214
00:51:19.269 --> 00:51:21.369
if you're lucky, and that's the rest of your life.
1215
00:51:21.829 --> 00:51:22.820
Yeah. Yeah.
1216
00:51:22.949 --> 00:51:25.159
It's one of those things where I feel like the
1217
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:26.559
resilience comes from.
1218
00:51:26.659 --> 00:51:28.679
It's not all it's not I'm not by myself. I'm
1219
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:29.360
not the only one.
1220
00:51:29.739 --> 00:51:32.059
Like people have done this and they survived and they
1221
00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:35.639
made it. And having those conversations with people that have
1222
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.699
and them reminding you, it's going to be OK when
1223
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.019
you're in it. What do you tell yourself? It's going
1224
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.840
to be OK. I know I feel like this, but
1225
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.050
it's going to be OK. Tomorrow is going to be
1226
00:51:45.110 --> 00:51:49.250
all right. And I think reminding yourself those things, it's key.
1227
00:51:49.449 --> 00:51:51.929
So that's why I always said team no sleep. I
1228
00:51:51.949 --> 00:51:54.320
would say to my team, no sleep. This is just
1229
00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.460
what it is. My all of my friends that have
1230
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.519
been through it. Everything's OK. So it's going to work out.
1231
00:51:59.769 --> 00:52:01.570
Cause I'd say there was bits when I thought this
1232
00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:04.269
isn't going to be okay. This is the worst. No sleep.
1233
00:52:04.309 --> 00:52:05.690
Anyone's ever had.
1234
00:52:07.849 --> 00:52:10.030
I think you and Jason might have very different mindset.
1235
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.599
It doesn't mean I don't question myself like that.
1236
00:52:16.780 --> 00:52:21.039
It's just at, at what point do I say there's
1237
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.860
a solution to this? Or it's just going to be
1238
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.989
a problem. And I go, I know it sucks, but
1239
00:52:28.050 --> 00:52:31.650
I got to see that there's the other side of midnight.
1240
00:52:31.289 --> 00:52:32.090
And there's a solution.
1241
00:52:32.670 --> 00:52:35.230
Yeah. Are you going to the Super Bowl, Jason?
1242
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.579
I am going to the Super Bowl. Yes.
1243
00:52:38.260 --> 00:52:41.539
In Vegas with your mate who now runs the team.
1244
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:43.579
I will see him early in the week. He is focused.
1245
00:52:43.619 --> 00:52:46.260
He's working. I'll go to his office. We'll have a
1246
00:52:46.300 --> 00:52:47.840
big congratulatory hug.
1247
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.099
And yeah, go to dinner with him and his wife
1248
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:52.519
and his kids and everything.
1249
00:52:52.989 --> 00:52:55.690
And then just, you know, lock in. To be honest,
1250
00:52:55.769 --> 00:52:58.010
every Super Bowl, I'm asleep by like seven because I'm
1251
00:52:58.030 --> 00:52:59.309
so jet lagged.
1252
00:52:59.389 --> 00:53:01.170
I mean, I got.
1253
00:53:01.190 --> 00:53:01.989
All these plans.
1254
00:53:02.050 --> 00:53:04.030
I got dinner set up with my old teammates.
1255
00:53:04.250 --> 00:53:05.150
I make none of them.
1256
00:53:06.849 --> 00:53:10.840
I'm so disappointed in myself every year and the daytime
1257
00:53:10.900 --> 00:53:12.159
i'm full of life.
1258
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:13.719
And then all of a sudden i go back get
1259
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.219
ready to go to dinner passed out every night every
1260
00:53:18.380 --> 00:53:19.260
single night.
1261
00:53:19.449 --> 00:53:21.510
But because i travel to america a lot filming and
1262
00:53:21.550 --> 00:53:23.570
stuff and a lot of times i wake up like
1263
00:53:23.570 --> 00:53:25.030
7 a.m i'm like right i'll go to the gym
1264
00:53:25.050 --> 00:53:27.210
go for a walk who wants a coffee this is
1265
00:53:27.389 --> 00:53:28.969
easy like a shake at a dinner.
1266
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:35.420
You see, you understand exactly what I'm talking about. In
1267
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.079
the morning, you got everything. You got all the life.
1268
00:53:38.260 --> 00:53:39.900
I think this should be like a jet lag support
1269
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:41.980
group where you can just message other people and go,
1270
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.719
let's hang out and never get on time.
1271
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.920
You see what we just figured out here? You see
1272
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.320
what we just did? Oh, man, that's good. I like that.
1273
00:53:49.429 --> 00:53:52.650
We'll get that little WhatsApp going. Can we get a prediction?
1274
00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:55.150
Because this is hopefully going to go out before the
1275
00:53:55.190 --> 00:53:58.510
Super Bowl. Can we get a prediction of the final?
1276
00:53:59.210 --> 00:54:02.110
Oh, man, this is tough because... You want to go
1277
00:54:02.130 --> 00:54:02.789
against your mates.
1278
00:54:03.710 --> 00:54:06.349
I haven't, I haven't thought about it, but you'll be
1279
00:54:06.369 --> 00:54:09.690
the first to know I'm going with Kansas city to
1280
00:54:09.750 --> 00:54:12.650
win because I love Patrick Mahomes.
1281
00:54:12.829 --> 00:54:15.710
I think he's destined for greatness.
1282
00:54:15.750 --> 00:54:18.130
And if you're going to chase Tom Brady, the greatest
1283
00:54:18.170 --> 00:54:20.789
of all time, you got to win back-to-back.
1284
00:54:20.329 --> 00:54:22.780
Super bowls and you got to get another trophy.
1285
00:54:23.139 --> 00:54:26.719
If that happens, we can continue to have that conversation
1286
00:54:26.780 --> 00:54:30.019
until he retires. And I know people are tired of this.
1287
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.420
I know people are upset about this. but Taylor Swift mania. I'm, I'm,
1288
00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:37.280
I'm here for it. I'm all, I'm all for it.
1289
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:38.170
I love it.
1290
00:54:38.730 --> 00:54:42.590
I'm all, I tell people we as NFL players, we
1291
00:54:42.650 --> 00:54:45.559
fought for this. We, we, we fought for this. We've
1292
00:54:45.579 --> 00:54:48.340
had helmets on our whole life. Nobody knew what our
1293
00:54:48.420 --> 00:54:49.199
faces look like.
1294
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.099
But, you know, social media, it took the helmet off.
1295
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.760
And now we got guys bringing pop stars, the biggest
1296
00:54:55.820 --> 00:54:58.969
pop star in America, one of her, Beyonce, to the game.
1297
00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:02.099
Jay-Z is already bringing Beyonce. There we are. We're locked in.
1298
00:55:02.469 --> 00:55:04.849
And in Vegas as well. It's sort of perfect, really.
1299
00:55:05.389 --> 00:55:07.829
We got usher at halftime. I'm going to be partying
1300
00:55:07.869 --> 00:55:10.309
at halftime. You can count on that. I'm, I'm, I'm
1301
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:11.780
really excited about that.
1302
00:55:11.860 --> 00:55:12.940
I'll be a kip in the cab.
1303
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:17.519
Oh man, I'll be done, done, but it'll be fun.
1304
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.760
I mean, that's super bowl. It's, it's, it's like no
1305
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:21.340
other event.
1306
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:25.170
My mom, finally begged me she's like i'm coming to
1307
00:55:25.190 --> 00:55:26.750
this game i was like oh no.
1308
00:55:26.650 --> 00:55:29.099
I gotta get you these tickets but yeah she's ready.
1309
00:55:29.420 --> 00:55:31.300
We went to um i went to it last year
1310
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.300
and it is insane and we went to the good
1311
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.719
one they had that that sort of like corporate vip
1312
00:55:38.300 --> 00:55:41.760
um event beforehand and it was like the black keys
1313
00:55:41.780 --> 00:55:45.630
were on doing a gig then jason derulo what i
1314
00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:47.590
couldn't get my head around was it was free beer
1315
00:55:48.070 --> 00:55:50.090
and free but it was all free but when i
1316
00:55:50.130 --> 00:55:52.349
turned around to the bar there weren't a queue i
1317
00:55:52.630 --> 00:55:54.090
was like we're definitely not in england.
1318
00:55:53.969 --> 00:55:58.010
Yeah yeah yeah that's because everybody's just rolling through it's
1319
00:55:58.030 --> 00:55:59.190
just cranking.
1320
00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:01.030
Out when they don't have i've never seen anything like
1321
00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:01.369
they don't.
1322
00:56:01.289 --> 00:56:03.690
Have to take currency it's just handing out stuff.
1323
00:56:03.730 --> 00:56:06.670
Yeah you know exactly no that was it was unbelievable
1324
00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:09.010
and it's an amazing event so um yeah my hope
1325
00:56:09.030 --> 00:56:10.820
so you think my homes is gonna do it i
1326
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.739
want that i want that very very good sitting on
1327
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.760
the fence it's not your first time giving a prediction.
1328
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.099
No it is i want rather i have to.
1329
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.380
Go with my emotions right here my emotions say i
1330
00:56:21.420 --> 00:56:24.059
want i want to continue to have this conversation about
1331
00:56:24.099 --> 00:56:26.760
patrick mahomes and his greatness but he's got it he's
1332
00:56:26.780 --> 00:56:27.539
got to win this one.
1333
00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:30.019
Um and do you think usher would do a better
1334
00:56:30.099 --> 00:56:33.630
or worse uh Super Bowl show than Girls Aloud if
1335
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:34.230
they were doing it?
1336
00:56:34.650 --> 00:56:36.929
Girls Aloud would be... It would be amazing.
1337
00:56:37.269 --> 00:56:39.670
You're insane, Josh. Imagine if you went, no, no, actually,
1338
00:56:39.710 --> 00:56:41.449
it would be Usher. Man, those shows.
1339
00:56:45.349 --> 00:56:47.110
I mean, I've been to a lot in the past.
1340
00:56:47.699 --> 00:56:51.280
It is, you're locked in. It is entertaining. It is
1341
00:56:51.420 --> 00:56:51.920
something else.
1342
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:55.619
The songs, the, I mean, they really, you, I, I
1343
00:56:55.739 --> 00:56:58.579
see why, uh, they are what they are. I mean,
1344
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.679
it's just, it's, it's just amazing. It's great.
1345
00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:02.369
And I've been to a lot of shows, so it's, it's,
1346
00:57:02.449 --> 00:57:04.849
it's a good time. And they're not paying me anything.
1347
00:57:04.670 --> 00:57:08.550
By the way. This is personal experience. This is great.
1348
00:57:08.869 --> 00:57:11.119
I'm just telling you, I loved it.
1349
00:57:11.590 --> 00:57:13.530
Have you got anything more you want to promote from
1350
00:57:13.550 --> 00:57:15.789
people who are paying you? And then we'll finish the interview.
1351
00:57:16.329 --> 00:57:21.050
No, man, I'm just hanging out with y'all. This is good.
1352
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:22.440
I'm promoting your podcast.
1353
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.039
I like it.
1354
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.010
Any products you like, go for it.
1355
00:57:28.500 --> 00:57:30.300
No, we got you. We got a free sandwich maker
1356
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.449
the other day, didn't we? A Breville challenge maker.
1357
00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:35.380
Do you know what happened earlier? Did you see this, Rob?
1358
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.500
When you did a thumbs up, a thumbs up came
1359
00:57:37.539 --> 00:57:38.219
on your screen.
1360
00:57:38.659 --> 00:57:39.440
Who, me? No way.
1361
00:57:39.500 --> 00:57:40.320
No, Jason.
1362
00:57:40.570 --> 00:57:42.130
Jason, come in. Do it again.
1363
00:57:43.070 --> 00:57:43.429
And it.
1364
00:57:43.530 --> 00:57:48.289
Oh, yeah! What is that? So we always finished with
1365
00:57:48.329 --> 00:57:51.610
the same question, Jason. Also, how did that thumbs up work?
1366
00:57:51.710 --> 00:57:53.050
Is that something set up on this?
1367
00:57:53.070 --> 00:57:54.570
I definitely didn't put that on here.
1368
00:57:54.750 --> 00:57:56.929
Whose studio is this you're working in?
1369
00:57:57.010 --> 00:57:59.929
This is our studio at the NFL office, actually.
1370
00:58:00.030 --> 00:58:00.280
Nice.
1371
00:58:00.489 --> 00:58:01.110
Good.
1372
00:58:02.139 --> 00:58:05.780
Last question, basically. What's the one thing that... Your daughter's
1373
00:58:05.860 --> 00:58:09.159
mother does parenting wise. We go, this blows me away.
1374
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.960
She's such an amazing mom. This she's unbelievable. And what
1375
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:14.820
one thing does she do that you go, not really
1376
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:16.519
a big fan of that. And if she listened back,
1377
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:17.929
she'd go, we've probably got a point.
1378
00:58:18.630 --> 00:58:23.630
Well, the one thing she does really well. And I
1379
00:58:23.650 --> 00:58:28.449
try to copy and emulate is understanding how to be calm,
1380
00:58:28.989 --> 00:58:32.409
intense situations with her, with my daughter. It's like, it's,
1381
00:58:34.340 --> 00:58:38.570
You know, because in those, you're teaching them something, this
1382
00:58:38.789 --> 00:58:43.269
core skill on how to manage stress. And she does
1383
00:58:43.309 --> 00:58:46.920
such a good job at that. Like, if it's too,
1384
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.900
you know, we don't need to rush here. We don't
1385
00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:52.760
need to panic here. You know, why teach them that?
1386
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:57.579
And I have learned by watching.
1387
00:58:57.530 --> 00:58:58.170
To copy that.
1388
00:58:59.239 --> 00:58:59.760
Right.
1389
00:58:59.780 --> 00:59:01.519
You know, because that's not how I am.
1390
00:59:01.780 --> 00:59:06.469
I operate from this standpoint. And the NFL does that
1391
00:59:06.510 --> 00:59:08.800
where it's like we're rushing to do this So I
1392
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.739
got to be on time or this has happened and
1393
00:59:10.780 --> 00:59:15.090
or whatever, like, you know, everything's tense. And, Nah, she doesn't,
1394
00:59:15.170 --> 00:59:18.030
she doesn't allow that. And it's really, it's very smart.
1395
00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:20.570
I'm so glad that she does that. As far as
1396
00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:23.949
things she doesn't, she does that. I don't like nothing.
1397
00:59:24.150 --> 00:59:25.630
Of course.
1398
00:59:25.889 --> 00:59:31.960
Are you serious? Get me to say that. Give her
1399
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.000
the thumbs up, Jason.
1400
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:33.800
Give her the thumbs up.
1401
00:59:39.889 --> 00:59:42.519
Jason's been absolutely amazing. Thanks so much for doing this.
1402
00:59:42.539 --> 00:59:43.980
Thanks for giving us your time, Jason.
1403
00:59:44.219 --> 00:59:46.050
Hey, man, this is a good time. Keep it going.
1404
00:59:46.110 --> 00:59:48.289
Great conversations, man. Y'all doing a good thing.
1405
00:59:49.010 --> 00:59:51.230
Cheers, Jason. All right, man. Appreciate it.
1406
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.019
Jason Bell, I fucking love Americans.
1407
00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:58.119
I'd run through a brick wall for that man. I'd
1408
00:59:58.139 --> 01:00:00.429
have kids of him. You see that wall behind you?
1409
01:00:00.449 --> 01:00:01.630
I'd be through that.
1410
01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:02.670
You'd run through that with Jess.
1411
01:00:02.690 --> 01:00:03.630
Straight through that.
1412
01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:06.050
And he's single. If Lou leaves me, I want Jason Bell.
1413
01:00:06.090 --> 01:00:06.929
He's probably not single.
1414
01:00:06.969 --> 01:00:08.309
I don't know if he's single, actually. I know he's
1415
01:00:08.329 --> 01:00:10.730
not with his daughter's mum. He can't be single, not
1416
01:00:10.750 --> 01:00:13.150
for long. Not with a smile and a thumbs up
1417
01:00:13.170 --> 01:00:13.429
like that.
1418
01:00:13.469 --> 01:00:16.260
Big question, Rob. Big question, Rob. Do you reckon you
1419
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.940
and Lou could have a relationship like that if you
1420
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:18.320
split up?
1421
01:00:19.420 --> 01:00:21.099
Depends the reason for splitting up, doesn't it?
1422
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:26.949
LAUGHTER the reason she splits up is she just can't
1423
01:00:26.989 --> 01:00:28.039
stand you anymore.
1424
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:37.579
Oh god my biggest fear unlocked well no but yeah
1425
01:00:37.619 --> 01:00:39.300
I mean every relationship is different.
1426
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.159
I'm so respectful of that but yeah yeah.
1427
01:00:42.059 --> 01:00:44.880
Because also really the reality is I think it's easier
1428
01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:47.239
to say when you're still in a relationship than not
1429
01:00:47.260 --> 01:00:50.369
being in one but ultimately the focus is the child
1430
01:00:50.650 --> 01:00:52.869
yeah so whatever makes it easier for the child I
1431
01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:55.059
sort of feel like you need to leave that, any
1432
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.099
sort of problems or arguments at the door. But, you know,
1433
01:00:59.050 --> 01:01:01.329
but yeah, that's amazing that he can talk, you know,
1434
01:01:01.369 --> 01:01:03.010
he moved back in with him in COVID and they
1435
01:01:03.030 --> 01:01:04.670
get on so well. But we'll have to have Nadine
1436
01:01:04.710 --> 01:01:07.250
on as well. See what her side is. She's going,
1437
01:01:07.389 --> 01:01:09.090
I can't. But if she was like, well, we don't
1438
01:01:09.110 --> 01:01:12.380
talk anymore. I'm like, oh, okay. Have you told her?
1439
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:13.619
You might want to talk to him for a bit
1440
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.199
to tell him that because he seems to think you are.
1441
01:01:16.219 --> 01:01:18.619
Yeah, he's coming to watch you at the O2, and
1442
01:01:18.659 --> 01:01:19.699
if you don't want him there, that's.
1443
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.420
Yeah, well, imagine if you actually met up with him
1444
01:01:22.460 --> 01:01:24.110
to go, and then you're like, yeah, it's just this way,
1445
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:25.550
and they go, sorry, no entry. He's like, oh, don't
1446
01:01:25.570 --> 01:01:26.909
worry about it, come round this way. You'll find out
1447
01:01:26.929 --> 01:01:32.050
he's not allowed in. Right, I'll see you on Tuesday, Josh.
1448
01:01:32.190 --> 01:01:33.809
Oh, yeah, I'll see you on Tuesday. All right, bye.
1449
01:01:33.989 --> 01:01:34.300
Bye.
1450
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:34.389
Bye.
1451
01:01:38.070 --> 01:01:40.309
Do you ever feel like topical comedy only ever tends
1452
01:01:40.349 --> 01:01:41.510
to come from one angle?
1453
01:01:41.789 --> 01:01:44.309
Well, I'm Geoff Norcott, host of What Most People Think,
1454
01:01:44.489 --> 01:01:46.269
and my show jokes about all sides.
1455
01:01:46.429 --> 01:01:49.550
Jokes about Tories, jokes about Labour, jokes about everyone. If
1456
01:01:49.570 --> 01:01:51.389
there's any Lib Dems listening, there isn't.
1457
01:01:51.650 --> 01:01:56.010
We're returning guests from across the political spectrum, including Romesh Ranganathan,
1458
01:01:56.050 --> 01:01:59.590
Simon Evans, Catherine Ryan, Constantine Kissing, David Baddiel, Andrew Doyle,
1459
01:01:59.750 --> 01:02:02.789
Al Murray and more. Sometimes we'll make good points, sometimes
1460
01:02:02.809 --> 01:02:05.130
we'll make cheap jokes, but whatever we do, we'll be
1461
01:02:05.170 --> 01:02:07.090
trying our best to get to the heart of what
1462
01:02:07.170 --> 01:02:07.969
most people think.
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Andy Bush here from Guestimators, the brand new game show
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where guesswork beats Google. Join me, our resident quiz master
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Statman Matt, and a celebrity guest as we dive into
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the brains of the great British public. Statman, what sort
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of questions have we been asking?
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Well Bush, here are some of my favourites.
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Who's the best Irish person?
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Which finger would you chop off if you had to?
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And how many human-sized corgis could Prince William beat in
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a fight?
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To play along at home and listen to the podcast,
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just visit guestimators.com. I think I chop off my left
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little finger, by the way.