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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we're chatting to a famous parent about how.
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They're coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Florence, can you
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say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Whittaker? Josh Whittaker.
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This is Florence, who's just turned two. I think that's
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pretty good. We coaxed her to say this whilst munching
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on a cucumber, which she stole from the side whilst
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we were making dinner. She's a bit of a food thief,
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but we generally let her get on with it if
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it's a distraction to get the actual dinner so we
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can get the dinner on the table. A raw onion
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or eggshell isn't off the cards. Bloody hell. We can't
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wait to see you live in April. Fuck it.
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Roll back.
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Raw....
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She'll try and eat it, but she doesn't let him
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eat it, does she? My son's eating raw onion, I think.
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I think it's fine. Well, that's fine. It's the egg shell.
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The egg shell.
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Yeah, I'm not.
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If they like it... Is egg shell bad for you?
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Can you eat the shell? I don't think it's encouraged.
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No.
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Did I tell you Lou burnt boiled eggs this week?
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Oh, my word.
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I'd never known it.
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No.
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The egg within the shell was burned.
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So, yeah, so I was doing an interview and I went, oh,
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I've got to do a 20 minute interview.
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I've put these eggs on to boil in cold water.
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So it take a little while.
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But yeah, but how do you want them done? I went, oh, no,
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just hard boiled. So just, you know, whatever. Just turn
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them off when they're, you know, after five, 10 minutes
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or whatever and leave them in the water.
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Okay, anyway, she completely forgot. She was in the kitchen cooking. Yeah.
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But forgot they were boiling.
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Oh, no.
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All the water evaporated. Oh, my word.
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And then she could smell burning. And basically, it just started, like,
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just sort of pan frying. Just frying the boiled eggs. So, basically,
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it burned the shell.
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Oh, my word.
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And then the shell cracked.
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And then it just started burning through to the white.
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Oh, my word.
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So, like, one half of it might have been all right.
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And she was just cooking nearby. I know. It's... Oh dear,
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it feels like she's going to respond to that on
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the next time we get Lou on.
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There's something with Lou and cooking that's deeper than doesn't
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like it. I don't know what's gone on, but her
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and cooking are just not friends.
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At all. But yeah, so, yeah, eggshell though. I don't
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know if you can eat eggshell.
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No.
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I certainly wouldn't give it to my child weaning them.
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That was Helena, Ricky and Florence from Peterborough. Can't wait
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to see you live in Edinburgh in April. April. If
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they're from Peterborough, Rob, I reckon they're coming to the
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Nottingham date. Yeah, boy.
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Good to see you there. I met two blokes in
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North London at the end of like the tube. yeah
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end of like stanmore or something yeah and then i
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met them at the end of that tube got and
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they picked me up from the tube we drove to
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peterborough and it was basically a pub that was trying
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to do stand-up but they had done nothing other than
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put a microphone in a pa in the corner of
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the park lovely so essentially i was we i was
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just doing stand-up to a busy pub yeah backs of
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heads tables people queuing.
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Everyone watching oh my god Awful.
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But I got paid 40 quid cash, got dropped home. Stanmore, 1am,
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no tubes, three night buses. I was back in Lewisham
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before you knew it.
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Oh, my God. Did I ever tell you I did
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a gig where a pub was trying to do stand-up
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and they didn't know how to do it? Like, and
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so they had... Everyone was eating dinner and he had
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a mic with no lead. The landlord said... I was like,
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I said, what, you just want me to stand in
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the corner? And he said, or... You could just go
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table to table and just do a joke to each table. Oh,
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like a hand magician. I'm not walking around the room
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arriving at each table to go... Have you ever been
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to Madame Tussauds? Because this is my anecdote.
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Okay, you've gone to your head and you had to
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because your family's life was on it. You're in that
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room now. You've got that mic. You've got to go
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to a table to make them laugh.
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Yeah.
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I just make jokes about the pub and the food
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and the situation. I would never... There's no way you could...
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I once also did a gig and I got there
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and it was a dinner and... Right. And it was
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all one long table. And I was at the end,
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like kind of the king.
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Yeah.
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And I just had to sit there. And then they
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all sat and had dinner. And I had to kind
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of hold forth at the end of the table. I
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did that in an Oxford dining hall at the uni. Yeah.
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It was mental. It's mad, isn't it?
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What we did back in the day. If you type
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in Oxford dining hall.
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Yeah. Right.
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It comes up straight away. Dining hall.
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At the end of it on a little like raised
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platform oh my god like Harry Potter yeah it looks
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like Hogwarts I know that was me doing my gear
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about I don't trust couscous it's fat sand yeah do
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you know what I mean lovely I don't like anything
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that tastes feels like it's already been chewed in my
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mouth all that stuff yeah all that good great gear
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it was good gear it was good gear back in
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the day on tomatoes hot in a toasted sandwich stuff
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like that I always loved that I loved that that
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was a good bit yeah that was good I still
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think about that.
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When I have a panini, I think about that. It
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gets transported back to you being a young whippersnapper. And
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an Oxford dining hall where people are going, what is
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he doing? A toasted sandwich? What's he talking about?
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A Breville maker? What's he talking about?
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We got bought a Breville for Christmas two years ago.
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It's so good, isn't it? It's so good. but you
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eat so many toasted sandwiches for about two weeks, and
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then it just goes in the cupboard.
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And then you start experimenting with cheese, beans, and Bovril.
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Oh, my God.
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Cheese and pickle's a good one.
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Have you ever tried cheese and pickle? But fuck me,
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it gets hot. That's a hot pickle, mate. I'll get
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another 10 minutes out of that. Do you know what?
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I'd love a Breville. I might go down and have
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a Breville for lunch. I love a Breville sandwich. No
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company dominates a market more than Breville with the toasted
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sandwich market.
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Well, I used to call it a Breville, you know,
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rather than a toasted sandwich maker, in the Breville.
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And people didn't know what I was talking about. What?
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Some people don't call it the Breville. They just call it...
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Because that's a brand name, isn't it? It's a fucking Breville.
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And if they want to chuck some money our way,
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that would be.
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Breville, if you want to send me a fucking toasty maker, mate,
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I'll have cheese and beans for a month until I'm
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15 stone.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, God.
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Oh, I love a Breville.
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Yeah, because Breville's the... Yeah, I used to call it
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a Breville, but it's not actually a.
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Yeah.
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It's just so cheap as well, sandwich. I mean, like,
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I'm asking them to send me one. They're 20 quid.
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Yeah, they're so good. I'd dip me in it. And now, detachable,
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so you can put it in the dishwasher.
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Yeah.
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Can you? Because Lou's got a waffle maker that does that.
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They're moving with the times, brother. Oh, these guys. My
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daughter's shouting for me, Rob.
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Okay, go on. Does she want a sandwich?
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She wants a toasted sandwich. I don't think she'd enjoy it.
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I'm going to tell the listeners my dirty confession so
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you don't hear it and give me grief.
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All right, great. I'll look forward to that and then
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I can listen to the episode for once in my life.
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Let me tell... Right, I'm going to tell you this.
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Everything okay?
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He's doing some parenting. Everything okay?
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That's a strange thing to ask a kid. Not really, no.
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Bit of back pain. Yeah, so I... I'm working. I'm working.
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I'm working.
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I'm just talking to Rob about toasted sandwich makers, OK?
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I'm grafting it. I've got calluses. What's that, mate?
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Oh, I didn't hear it.
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Enjoyed you saying you're working to your daughter after discussing
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sandwich makers.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that is bad, isn't it?
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I'm working.
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Can't you hear?
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I didn't say it like that. She said, what are
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you up to? I said, I'm working. What would you
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have said? I'm talking about toasted sandwich makers. God, I
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love a toasted sandwich.
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I get it.
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Really love them. That's the most honest you've ever been.
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That is pure, that is from your soul, that is
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a toasted sandwich, isn't it?
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It's bread. I'm just so, I'm so basic when it
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comes to food. Do you know what I mean? I'm not.
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I'm just, I love a toasted sandwich. Do you know what?
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I used to try and think that if I could genuinely,
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bread and cheese and butter, if I could have that
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every day and not die within about three years, I
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would eat three massive sandwiches every day.
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Do you know what I love? And I'm going to
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say it.
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Yeah.
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A freezer pizza. I fucking love a freezer pizza.
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A Dr.
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Oitka Ristorante. Oh, just, oh, just, yeah. Pound for pound.
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A supermarket home brand.
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Fine.
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Yes, please. No, no, no, fuck off. I love them.
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I love them.
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Ristorante, Dr.
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Oitka.
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No, they're weird, Dr.
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Oitka.
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They're biscuit base. They're not biscuit base, you mad bastard.
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They're the best.
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Pound for pound for two quid. What a, I think
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they're still two quid. How much is a Ristorante these days?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I'll tell you what.
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You know, Liz Truss has fucked the Dr. Oak market.
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Brexit's probably fucked Dr. Oak, right, because I'll tell you that. Well,
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it's just come off my thing there. Two quid in Waitrose, 3.25
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on Ocado. What mad bastard is buying 3.25? Oh, it's
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a vegan one, that's why.
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Oh, right, we're down on that. Three quid in Tesco.
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There you go.
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Two quid, Sainsbury's. There we go, all bases covered.
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Shall we bring our guests on? Oh, yeah, my embarrassing thing.
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I'll say that quickly.
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Embarrassing. I quite like Muse. The band? Yeah. Do you?
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I don't like it, though. They're from my... They're a
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bit nerdy for me, no offence. They're a bunch of...
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A couple of their songs. Yeah, they're... They used to...
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My friends were supported by Muse when they were 16,
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because Muse were on the same, like, open mic night
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when all my mates were in bands. Muse did my school,
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I think.
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Oh!
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So is there any extra bit of that story? I
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thought you were going to say they did it and
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they were nice or horrible.
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Oh, no. Matt Bellamy used to live above a sex
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shop on Exit High Street. I know that.
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Okay, cool.
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And I was once pulled over and asked around for directions.
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It was Dom, the drummer. That's about all I've got. Okay,
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all right. That's quite extensive. Fair play. Respect. Okay, let's
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bring in our guest. Oh, what a guest it is. Yes.
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In fact, Rob, one of your Radio 2 mates, isn't it?
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Yes, a member of the Radio 2 family, old Coxie,
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Sarah Cox. And I enjoyed you keeping it together, considering
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that you was obsessed with Sarah Cox in the 90s.
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This is Sarah Cox. Hello, Sarah Cox. Welcome to the podcast.
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Me and Josh are very excited. You've been on the
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hit list.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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Is that a good hit list? Yeah, it's a good one.
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It is a good hit list.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Of people we want and think will be good. I
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can see a cat in the background as well.
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One of my many pets, frustrated daughter of a farmer.
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So I can't have any cows or goats. So I
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just have as many small things as I can wandering around.
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So you were actually a daughter of a farmer. I
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didn't know this.
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Yeah, my dad's a beef farmer.
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He still is.
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I mean, he's 80-odd and I ring him and I
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can hear the rumble of the tractor. Hey, up, up,
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just shoveling cack. LAUGHTER Give me a minute.
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So are you in London?
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Yeah, I'm in North London. I mean, I love London.
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I've been down here longer than I was up north,
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but a little tiny bit of me still has that
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little pipe dream that one day I'll have a small
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holding and a few more dogs and, you know, ponies
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for the kids, all that.
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What kids have you got before we start? What ages
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are they?
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Well, I barely qualify for this podcast, really. My parenting
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is nearly done. Oh, no. Wow. Well, it's a bit
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of an exaggeration. The youngest is 12, so you're not.
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Some would argue a quarter of the way through.
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Yeah. I hate when people go, it's a northern thing.
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But I think I am quite like, you know, done now.
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You know what I mean? You can make a toasty.
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My parenting's done. You're free. So 12, 14, and 18. Right.
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Wow.
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And what's your 18? Is he or she at uni
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or working?
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Well, this September she will be at uni, hopefully. We're
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very proud. However, that means she's living her fresher year
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while still being under our roof, essentially.
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Right. Okay.
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And she's not really wild. She just loves making things
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with curry powder very early in the morning before college
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or very late at night.
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What do you mean making things with curry powder?
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I really love Indian food and Indian flavours, but she
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makes these big veggie curries. She uses our house. You
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know when you hear about dark kitchens where people just
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have like a kitchen on an industrial estate and that's
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where they churn? Yeah. Basically, we'd oversee her all weekend
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and she just comes in and curry bombs our entire
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kitchen with all these lovely aromatic smells all night. And
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then in the morning, it's all still there and she
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leaves it all out. And she's basically living her student life,
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but at home. Right. You know, the circle of life.
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She should be winding up her housemates and stuff or
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in halls of residence with this behaviour. But instead, she's
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still home.
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Oh, God. I'd have hated to be at home. When
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I left and was in halls of residence, it was freedom.
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Yeah, this is it. I mean, she's doing a really
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brilliant thing. It's amazing to do a foundation course with her.
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Then you know what you want to do. She'll go
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to a good uni, hopefully, in September. But I'll really
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be like, you know, mixed shoving motion.
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Bye.
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Love you.
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LAUGHTER does she want to go somewhere yeah yeah she's
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as well she's ready now she's ready to leave the
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nest she's fully feathered legs are dangling over the edge
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of the nest you know would you want her to
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go up north to sort of reconnect with her northern
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roots like you say you've been down here for so
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long now that so you've probably got three little posh
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londoners haven't you I know.
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They still say bath.
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Do they? Okay.
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That's the thing. Yeah, it's the only thing. It would
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be quite nice if she went up now. I was
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saying that to her, actually, especially, you know, because she
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can then get the tram over to my mum's and
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go and see her little grandma. I thought it'd be
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quite cute, you know, to see the family up there.
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How will you react on that day when you drop
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her off?
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Get absolutely leathered, I think.
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Celebrate.
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Right.
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Before we bought the house that we're in now, we
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were looking around this area and we looked at one
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house and there was a lady there and she had
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kids the same age as you, really, 12, 14 and 18.
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And was like, oh, so where are you going then?
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Because it's quite a strange time to move, I think,
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because they're all in secondary school and then uni is
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sort of an odd... And she went, oh, yeah, well,
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what we're doing is she's going to university in Canterbury,
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so we're going to move down to Canterbury, so we're
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near to her.
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And I was like... What?
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Wow.
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Whoa, she doesn't want that. You know, someone says.
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Something to you in their house and you want to go,
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are you fucking insane? But you're like, right, okay. And
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I was like, well, what about the other kids? Do
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you move every time they go to uni?
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Because... It's.
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Unfair to move for one or they all have to
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go to the same uni, but she was very much
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the other end of the spectrum with dropping off for
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uni as you are, Sarah.
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I mean, wow.
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I think it's healthier your side of the fence.
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Look, I might be all gung-ho now. You might speak
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to me in a year's time, well, come September, and
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I might be devastated, but I doubt it. I mean.
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LAUGHTER I mean, she's had enough of us.
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You know, she's very, she's a real independent spirit. You
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know what I mean? She knows that she's fully loved.
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I mean, it's the same, you know, when my mum
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comes down here and I drop her back off, well,
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I don't even drop her at Houston anymore. I pop
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her in an Uber. When I pop her in the Uber.
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She's had enough of me and I've had enough of her.
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We're a bit like, you know, it's just a bit like,
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I love you, but we're done now. So she'll be
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off and she'll have a great time.
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When my parents came and toured with me to Australia
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and New Zealand and on the way back from New Zealand,
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it was like 14 hours to Singapore. I was in
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Singapore for two hours.
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Got delayed an hour.
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Three hours there and then it was 14 hours from
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singapore to london because they couldn't go over parts of
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russia obviously because of the war and then we landed
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and then we sat on the runway for two hours
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because there was nowhere to park the plane because it
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was a big one and needed at all this and
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by the end of it i was like itchy to
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wanting to like escape and get away and i sat
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there and then my mom went over went oh look
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my neighbor whatever her name is she's gone to see
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mama mia and it was a bit hard to apologize
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later i went why do you think i give a
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fuck I don't even know who your neighbour is. I
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don't know what she is.
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I don't know where she is.
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And I couldn't give a fuck about that. But they
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just bombard you with information you don't care about your parents.
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Yeah, it's when that inner monologue slips out. That's what
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you're often thinking anyway. You know, Carol, a daughter was
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in the year above you at school. You know, Jenny
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got a limp. Your mum's nowhere anywhere. And then they'll
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tell you something complete. She tripped over a lamp or
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whatever it is. A greyhound's not well. You're just like, okay. hair,
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but yeah, you're slipped out that long together.
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Yeah, I'd say, yeah.
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Or she goes, yeah, it's her anniversary next week. I'm
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thinking I might get him a present.
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All right, yeah, okay.
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Why don't you think about that rather than say it?
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What was that old, is Tempe going to ring someone
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who cares? Yeah, I mean, I used to think my
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mum was absolutely crackers. I'm like, why would my mum
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care about these little things like, you know, when I've
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left a mess in the kitchen or whatever. And now
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my eldest woke up this morning to a naggy text
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and a follow-up analogue handwritten note in the.
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Kitchen as well.
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Really? Yeah. rinse these dishes wash this this wasn't very
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pleasant at 6am making a cup of tea next to
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all this smelly stuff sort this out and anyway I
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was speaking to my husband and he goes did she
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sort it out I'm like yeah but she left just
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one splodge of curry sauce about two inches to the
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left of the note that I'd left her in the
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kitchen into real life okay fuck you I'll do what
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you say, but I'll just let you know that I
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don't care as much as you an hour time. I've
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took a picture with a splodge and everything.
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Do you know what? You won't remember this, Sarah, but
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for some reason I've got a memory of you parenting,
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which was... Sounds creepy. Yeah, this is weird. When we
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did the Crystal Maze together about 10 years ago, and
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there was a break, and I was sat there, and
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I remember hearing consecutive phone calls from Rio Ferdinand to
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his kid, and then you to... Must be your daughter now.
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And he was really talking about how this kid had
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played in the football. Did they win? Really competitive, like
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sports dad. And then I just remember you saying to
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your daughter, yeah, if you've done all your work, then
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you can go to Sprinkles. And that's all you said.
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Go to Sprinkles?
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Go to Sprinkles.
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Sprinkles is legendary shut down now what is sprinkles it
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was an ice cream parlor like pancake parlor you know
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and it shut down because we're british and we're like
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who wants an ice cream parlor that's too much you know.
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But you came across as a very chilled out parent
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is that fair You know what?
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Despite the start I've made with this show, I am
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actually pretty chilled. My husband's much stricter with me, but
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I think it's because she's so big now that it
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is some sort of primal instinct that like, you know.
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That she could beat you up.
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Yeah, go and spear your own mammoth, you know, out
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the case you're grown now kind of thing but uh
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otherwise i am pretty chilled really.
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What about with going out and stuff like are you
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asking a lot of questions like who she's going out
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with where she's going or you relaxed about that as well.
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Well, to be fair, on my home screen of my phone,
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I've got all three and my husband. I've got their locations.
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Oh, have you?
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On my phone, yeah.
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Wow, like spooks.
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Like the real hustle.
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No, is it like Meet the Parents where he's got
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that little spy room?
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I just go into it.
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I press a painting on my wall and it flips.
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So you've got all their locations through the message thing?
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Yeah, they're all there. I can see exactly where they
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all are at all times.
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Wow.
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It's really good.
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What's that app?
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It's just widgets that you get on your own screen
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00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:34.640
on your iPhone.
497
00:20:34.660 --> 00:20:36.500
And you can just put the widget of like.
498
00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.250
For location. So it's so nice. My eldest is pretty good.
499
00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:42.890
But it's nice if I wake up at like 2am
500
00:20:42.930 --> 00:20:45.230
or whatever and just glance at my phone and see
501
00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:48.230
that she's at this address. Yeah. Or, you know, a
502
00:20:48.269 --> 00:20:48.890
mate's house.
503
00:20:49.069 --> 00:20:51.099
And it hasn't come back on her that she goes...
504
00:20:51.299 --> 00:20:54.000
But you were the ultimate ladette. I know where you
505
00:20:54.019 --> 00:20:56.720
were going. You used to go out all night before
506
00:20:56.740 --> 00:20:59.079
the radio on breakfast show. I've not even got to
507
00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:01.279
get up to broadcast to 10 million people.
508
00:21:02.019 --> 00:21:04.160
Sometimes there's a bit of sassy syndrome.
509
00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:04.539
Is there?
510
00:21:04.819 --> 00:21:07.220
Where it used to be where she was a bit
511
00:21:07.259 --> 00:21:09.940
more sensible. She'd come down and me and my friends,
512
00:21:10.019 --> 00:21:12.359
if we'd had a party or whatever, might still be
513
00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.579
up or something. Well, that was a long time ago. Oh,
514
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.960
they still go, remember that time you were really drunk in.
515
00:21:17.940 --> 00:21:18.619
Ibiza, Mum?
516
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.920
You were so funny by the pool in the morning.
517
00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:24.069
I'm like, oh God, that was ages ago. I really
518
00:21:24.089 --> 00:21:26.130
want to do a men in black, like vroom, in
519
00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:29.470
front of their eyes. I get that. But now, yeah,
520
00:21:29.630 --> 00:21:32.250
I guess with their outfits, I'm fully, you know, as
521
00:21:32.309 --> 00:21:34.809
a parent, when your kids are growing up and they're
522
00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:39.160
finding their own style, your stock response is, you look amazing, babe.
523
00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:40.880
You look great. And my mum always said it to me.
524
00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.200
when I was going out in my terrible, like, secondhand
525
00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.539
fake leopard print leather jackets and John Lennon sunglasses. She'd
526
00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.480
be like, you look great. She must have been like...
527
00:21:52.259 --> 00:21:56.420
behind my back and now i'm like fully encouraging with
528
00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.759
my kids i'm like you look awesome but if there's
529
00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:01.680
quite a lot of cleavage happening sometimes i don't have
530
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.690
a leg to stand on because you can literally google
531
00:22:03.710 --> 00:22:07.049
me falling out the net bar you know looking like
532
00:22:07.069 --> 00:22:11.470
i've got phil and grant mitchell down me dress and
533
00:22:11.529 --> 00:22:15.190
can just be like evidence present to the court so.
534
00:22:15.109 --> 00:22:17.990
Yeah you can't really say much can you Nah, not going.
535
00:22:17.910 --> 00:22:18.529
To like them.
536
00:22:18.690 --> 00:22:21.650
Are they interested in your work and your past? Because
537
00:22:21.670 --> 00:22:25.230
I think your career is quite interesting. You did Radio 1,
538
00:22:25.230 --> 00:22:27.700
you did The Girly Show, of course, and then you're
539
00:22:27.740 --> 00:22:31.259
now kind of Radio 2. I mean, you're closing in
540
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.579
on National Treasure here, Sarah, if you're not careful.
541
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:34.220
Oh, no!
542
00:22:34.460 --> 00:22:37.490
You're closing in on it. Am I 35? Shut up.
543
00:22:39.789 --> 00:22:43.230
But respect from, like, being an author and Sunday Times bestseller.
544
00:22:43.269 --> 00:22:46.470
It's like you've sort of covered all bases of entertainment, really,
545
00:22:46.490 --> 00:22:48.099
haven't you? And broadcasting.
546
00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:51.180
It's just my single to be released now, and then
547
00:22:51.259 --> 00:22:55.920
I've taken them off. I might be a long time coming.
548
00:22:55.940 --> 00:22:57.519
There'll be a lot of auto-tuning on that.
549
00:22:57.660 --> 00:22:58.519
Bad boy.
550
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.140
So, yeah, they're kind of interested. I mean, they're just
551
00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:04.569
so used to it. They're just a bit like, oh,
552
00:23:04.589 --> 00:23:07.529
is your book out? They don't really care, you know.
553
00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:08.450
Have they read it?
554
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:11.400
No, no one's read the book. My husband's not read
555
00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:12.140
any of my books.
556
00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:15.119
No, my wife's not read either of mine. It's unbelievable.
557
00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:17.119
Unbelievable. I mean.
558
00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:18.420
It's really weird, isn't it?
559
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.920
So did you present it to her and go, I'd
560
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:23.680
love you to read it. It's really little.
561
00:23:23.779 --> 00:23:25.839
She could get a copy. There's about 65 in my office.
562
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:29.819
Sign one for her, Josh.
563
00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:33.029
And I'll be like. She doesn't really read. She just
564
00:23:33.069 --> 00:23:35.269
looks at her phone in bed. But would you want
565
00:23:35.289 --> 00:23:38.349
your husband sat reading your book next to you in bed?
566
00:23:38.789 --> 00:23:42.170
That's a weird thing, isn't it? It's like my memoir. Well,
567
00:23:42.190 --> 00:23:45.349
I mean, it's not read either. I tell you what,
568
00:23:45.410 --> 00:23:49.170
the memoir is basically about my dad and my dad
569
00:23:49.210 --> 00:23:53.980
hasn't read it. Oh, really? Yeah. In existence, it's a
570
00:23:54.019 --> 00:23:55.339
book about him that is not there.
571
00:23:55.460 --> 00:23:57.079
Well, yeah, that was Till the Cows Come Home.
572
00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:57.299
Yeah.
573
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.539
Obviously, he's a beef farmer. That was in 2018. But
574
00:23:59.779 --> 00:24:02.099
Your New One is Thrown. That's your new novel.
575
00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:03.599
So this is your first novel.
576
00:24:03.819 --> 00:24:04.160
Yeah.
577
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.380
This is now in paperback. And this is crucial, Sarah.
578
00:24:08.420 --> 00:24:11.769
It says here, very importantly, that you're a Sunday Times reporter.
579
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.660
bestseller for fiction now.
580
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.609
Yes that's level up in it anyone could knock out
581
00:24:16.670 --> 00:24:17.829
a fucking memoir.
582
00:24:18.009 --> 00:24:20.529
Anyone can knock out a memoir this is proper work
583
00:24:20.549 --> 00:24:23.869
it's a proper novel yeah Was it tough?
584
00:24:24.349 --> 00:24:29.960
Yeah. He got to number two in the Best Sellers Challenge.
585
00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:31.079
I know.
586
00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:33.680
Osman. It's got to be Osman. Fucking Richard Osman.
587
00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:36.819
It's got to be Osman. That's what I was thinking.
588
00:24:37.220 --> 00:24:40.109
I can't remember. And then, you know, there's quite a
589
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.930
few songs that were kept off the top spot.
590
00:24:43.990 --> 00:24:46.769
Yeah. Last Christmas was kept off the top spot.
591
00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:50.410
I comfort myself with that. Yeah. Vienna kept off.
592
00:24:51.339 --> 00:24:57.460
By Richard Osman? By Richard Osman. Probably swayed Richard Osman's brother.
593
00:24:57.779 --> 00:24:58.980
Those Osmonds are everywhere.
594
00:24:59.220 --> 00:25:00.660
Yeah, it did well.
595
00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:02.299
Donny Osmond was number one as well.
596
00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:08.809
Oh, don't get me going on the Osmonds, Jesus. Years ago,
597
00:25:08.829 --> 00:25:11.450
I did Family Fortunes against the Osmond family, and the
598
00:25:11.490 --> 00:25:14.450
first three rows of the audience were all Osmond fans,
599
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.759
all women, with the scarves and stuff. And every answer
600
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.500
I gave, silence when it was correct and stuff, and
601
00:25:21.539 --> 00:25:24.579
me and my family, we were basically trolled by Usman fans.
602
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:25.240
Oh, wow.
603
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:28.660
And whenever they answered, they were like, hey, all these
604
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:30.599
mad women. It's amazing.
605
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:34.839
So Throne is a novel about four women at... Shall
606
00:25:34.859 --> 00:25:36.119
I give the pitch or do you want me to...
607
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:37.339
Do you want to give the pitch, Sarah? What are
608
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:37.579
you doing?
609
00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:38.660
See if you're right or not, Josh.
610
00:25:38.809 --> 00:25:39.069
OK.
611
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:39.960
Sarah can judge you.
612
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.289
Four women in an apocalyptic future in 2030.
613
00:25:43.269 --> 00:25:50.109
LAUGHTER i'm writing that down for the next one it's
614
00:25:50.150 --> 00:25:51.029
pretty good that.
615
00:25:52.750 --> 00:25:56.279
God i've got these ideas you see so it's about
616
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.299
four women meeting for a pottery class right and they
617
00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:00.460
kind of um.
618
00:26:00.500 --> 00:26:03.680
It's set like north of manchester yeah basically set in
619
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:05.920
bolton on a housing estate i grew up sort of
620
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.319
half at my mom's and half on the farm where
621
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:09.839
my dad was we left the farm when i was
622
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.019
six because they divorced And it's sort of on an
623
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.880
estate similar to one where I grew up and nobody
624
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.970
really knows each other anymore like they used to. And
625
00:26:19.250 --> 00:26:21.289
people are sort of busy, get on with their own lives.
626
00:26:21.329 --> 00:26:24.220
And then this woman called Becky runs a community center.
627
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.779
She wins a grant to start this pottery class. And
628
00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:28.640
that was a nice way just to bring these four
629
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.180
women together and for them to become firm friends and
630
00:26:32.220 --> 00:26:36.640
to help each other through all sorts of suspected infidelity.
631
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.329
And another couple who were desperate for a baby, one
632
00:26:39.369 --> 00:26:41.690
who's got a bit of Enteness Syndrome and actually wants
633
00:26:41.750 --> 00:26:45.289
to start a new life abroad. There's a horrible ex
634
00:26:45.369 --> 00:26:49.269
comes in. There's a very sexy Scottish pottery teacher. I
635
00:26:49.289 --> 00:26:51.849
had to write a couple of fruity scenes.
636
00:26:51.869 --> 00:26:52.470
Did you?
637
00:26:52.490 --> 00:26:55.150
Oh, yes. No, I then had to read in the
638
00:26:55.250 --> 00:26:58.390
audio book. I'll never do that again. Oh, God.
639
00:26:58.430 --> 00:27:00.349
Is there a line that sticks in your mind that
640
00:27:00.390 --> 00:27:01.650
you've struggled with?
641
00:27:01.690 --> 00:27:03.220
What is it? Come on.
642
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.099
I can't.
643
00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:04.759
You can.
644
00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:07.839
Come on, Sarah. It's rude. It's okay. What page is
645
00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:09.730
it on? What page is it on? And I'll read it.
646
00:27:09.819 --> 00:27:11.440
I'll read it out. You've got the book here. I've
647
00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:12.619
got the PDF here. Where is it?
648
00:27:15.869 --> 00:27:19.890
Okay, so it'll be Jamila, and it's when her husband
649
00:27:20.369 --> 00:27:22.230
comes home from work.
650
00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:24.470
And one thing leads to another.
651
00:27:24.690 --> 00:27:26.390
Yeah, and one thing leads to another.
652
00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:29.690
Who were you picturing with the sexy husband?
653
00:27:29.819 --> 00:27:33.200
No, not sexy husband, sexy pottery teacher, because he's Scottish.
654
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.279
A little bit. 1980s Marty Peller.
655
00:27:36.740 --> 00:27:42.839
I can see it. And when you say a little bit,
656
00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:43.700
do you mean a lot? Yeah.
657
00:27:44.769 --> 00:27:47.890
Well, yeah, maybe, but it's got to be H's pillow.
658
00:27:47.950 --> 00:27:52.140
It's Marty's pillow. Yeah. Sexy, serious, but creative.
659
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.480
Twinkly. I mean, don't look into his eyes. He'll twinkle
660
00:27:55.539 --> 00:27:58.220
you to death. I've lost many friends over the years.
661
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.980
You look him directly in the eye.
662
00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:01.500
Have you got it there, Sarah?
663
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:02.319
I'm not.
664
00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:04.599
Because I've got a pretty sexy voice, as we're all aware.
665
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.819
You'll have to give me a minute, but I'm sure
666
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.720
it'll be worth it once we find it.
667
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:09.380
Find the page.
668
00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:12.049
It's quite rude, though, Josh. Are you sure? You might
669
00:28:12.069 --> 00:28:13.990
have to fill out a form afterwards.
670
00:28:14.069 --> 00:28:18.789
I cannot wait. I'll blush. Oh, oh my word. Oh, Sarah.
671
00:28:18.890 --> 00:28:23.430
What have you found? Go on. It's page 56. What
672
00:28:23.470 --> 00:28:26.130
word is it, Josh? What have you found? Oh my word.
673
00:28:26.509 --> 00:28:27.170
We've already built this.
674
00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:27.690
Oh.
675
00:28:27.710 --> 00:28:29.390
You had to read this?
676
00:28:29.410 --> 00:28:36.750
Oh yeah. I was like, you know what, I did
677
00:28:36.769 --> 00:28:39.690
it in one take because I'm not bloody doing this
678
00:28:39.789 --> 00:28:41.359
twice because it's so embarrassing.
679
00:28:41.380 --> 00:28:43.039
Did you look up towards the producer?
680
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.099
No, and he was like mid-twenties. He was basically the
681
00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:49.279
same name and age as one of my nephews. And
682
00:28:49.299 --> 00:28:50.019
I was like.
683
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:51.640
He looked like a young Marti Pello.
684
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.880
Just you two in a run together and you reading
685
00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:56.910
this as he records it.
686
00:28:57.369 --> 00:28:58.210
He's so wrong.
687
00:28:58.250 --> 00:29:00.369
Shall we get Nando's after this?
688
00:29:00.430 --> 00:29:04.670
Okay, here we go. He presented his... She missed Simon.
689
00:29:04.849 --> 00:29:08.950
She missed the sex they used to... Sex? Oh, my word. Sarah.
690
00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:11.130
That can't be the naughty bit, the word sex.
691
00:29:11.230 --> 00:29:11.549
No.
692
00:29:11.609 --> 00:29:13.690
No wonder you didn't want your daughters to read this.
693
00:29:13.890 --> 00:29:16.329
Go on, Josh. This is fun watching you cringe a bit.
694
00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:17.869
She missed the sex they used to have when they
695
00:29:17.940 --> 00:29:18.640
moved in together.
696
00:29:19.029 --> 00:29:19.690
His hands on her.
697
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:20.470
A bit sexier, Josh.
698
00:29:20.769 --> 00:29:21.990
Yeah. But what do you mean?
699
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.019
Come on, give it a bit of.
700
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.759
How did you do it, Sarah? I didn't want to
701
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:25.890
sound like I'm being sarcastic.
702
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:26.079
Right.
703
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.400
His hands on her as soon as he was through
704
00:29:28.420 --> 00:29:31.940
the door from work. Kiss, hello, turning hotter. Him pulling
705
00:29:31.970 --> 00:29:35.450
down her knickers roughly. Pushing his fingers into her. His long... Long.
706
00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:48.309
It was these moments she thought of in the shower. Oh,
707
00:29:48.490 --> 00:29:50.619
do you know what? It's very well written, Sarah. It is,
708
00:29:50.670 --> 00:29:52.730
isn't it? Does it get more raunchy than that? How much,
709
00:29:52.950 --> 00:29:54.250
did you get notes on that or did they wave
710
00:29:54.269 --> 00:29:56.450
that bit through first draft? You've nailed that.
711
00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:58.430
They were like, green light that day.
712
00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:01.470
For me though, long searching fingers reminds me of E2.
713
00:30:02.450 --> 00:30:03.529
That's what I'm picturing.
714
00:30:03.910 --> 00:30:06.509
The glowy bit on the end. The glowy bit, that's right.
715
00:30:06.549 --> 00:30:08.130
He knows exactly where to hit that.
716
00:30:10.329 --> 00:30:12.250
Oh, so that was intense to read.
717
00:30:12.269 --> 00:30:13.609
That'll be tough in the audiobook.
718
00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:17.329
That was incredible, Josh. I will never forget that. Thanks, guys.
719
00:30:17.569 --> 00:30:18.809
That was a beautiful moment.
720
00:30:18.829 --> 00:30:22.400
If you want that edited into the audiobook, then... I
721
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.000
can't work.
722
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.440
Out if that's going to make people want to buy
723
00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:26.680
it more or less, Josh, doing it. Just say, no,
724
00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:27.920
Josh doesn't do the whole book.
725
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:28.220
No.
726
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.759
Do you do the voices? Like, did you do different accents? Oh, don't.
727
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.140
Another lesson I learned. So the first one was don't
728
00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:39.630
write sex scenes in. The second one was don't have
729
00:30:39.670 --> 00:30:41.970
a bloody Scottish person unless you can do.
730
00:30:41.890 --> 00:30:42.910
A Scottish accent.
731
00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:47.190
LAUGHTER So I was like, I'm at risk of being
732
00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:50.549
cancelled by Scotland if I try and do. And then
733
00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:53.019
I'm like, can we not just get Edith Bowman in
734
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.619
or something just to come in and do those bits
735
00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:58.960
where Sasha speaks? Apparently that's not a thing. So in
736
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.119
the end, well, then they were like, just for the
737
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.299
audio book alone, make him not Scottish. But I think
738
00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:06.750
Scots are quite sexy.
739
00:31:06.789 --> 00:31:09.450
You made him Jamaican. It was much worse, actually, wasn't it?
740
00:31:10.950 --> 00:31:13.299
Yeah, so it's sex and exotic, isn't it, Scotland? A
741
00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:15.119
five-hour drive to Bolton.
742
00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:18.029
So what did you do?
743
00:31:18.049 --> 00:31:18.119
Well.
744
00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:20.430
Did you do a Scottish accent?
745
00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:24.720
No, because I would get cancelled. I mean... Hey, we're mad!
746
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.390
I've only got that extreme version. If he's trying to
747
00:31:27.410 --> 00:31:28.390
be sexy in a pottery.
748
00:31:28.670 --> 00:31:31.210
This is it. Oh, so it was awful. I'm getting, like,
749
00:31:31.230 --> 00:31:33.890
sweaty now thinking about it. So I didn't want to
750
00:31:33.930 --> 00:31:35.390
change the character the way it was from, because I
751
00:31:35.410 --> 00:31:38.039
just liked having a Scottish character in there. So luckily
752
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.640
he travelled a lot, so he'd worked in LA, Israel,
753
00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:43.339
he'd worked everywhere with his partner.
754
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:44.799
So he sounded Mancunian.
755
00:31:44.819 --> 00:31:52.509
Yeah. He sounded like a Mancunian woman. He's kind of
756
00:31:52.549 --> 00:31:56.289
like transatlantic, weird Bolton. Terrible.
757
00:31:58.529 --> 00:32:00.309
I'm sure it's amazing.
758
00:32:00.369 --> 00:32:01.269
Lessons learned.
759
00:32:02.009 --> 00:32:03.819
And so, your children haven't read it?
760
00:32:04.130 --> 00:32:04.380
No.
761
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:05.200
Quite rightly.
762
00:32:05.220 --> 00:32:05.759
Yeah.
763
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.380
It's a bit saucy, isn't it?
764
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:08.660
Oh, yeah. I mean.
765
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.720
So, all girls you've got, or boys as well?
766
00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:14.279
I've got a girl, boy, girl, so... How old are you?
767
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.220
You two are in, like, deep parenting, aren't you?
768
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.559
I'm in deep. Rob's in... Rob can get his feet
769
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.609
on the floor of the swimming pool, but he's not
770
00:32:21.619 --> 00:32:22.309
comfortable yet.
771
00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:24.609
He's got seven and five, so we're getting there.
772
00:32:24.630 --> 00:32:26.450
We're nearly there. And I'm five and one.
773
00:32:26.490 --> 00:32:26.630
Whoa.
774
00:32:27.269 --> 00:32:29.710
I'm not jaded like you are, Sarah. Sure.
775
00:32:29.789 --> 00:32:33.059
I mean, to be honest, you've got, it's lovely when
776
00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:40.349
they're little, but it's amazing when they're big. Because there
777
00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:43.349
is an element of like... Like yesterday, the middle and
778
00:32:43.369 --> 00:32:45.910
the little one had gone to the cinema together and
779
00:32:45.950 --> 00:32:47.420
they were going to get home on the tube and
780
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.559
stuff and all fine. They just pootle around on the
781
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.039
tube now.
782
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.680
So on their own, the 12 and 14-year-old?
783
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.950
12 and 14, because they get the tube to school
784
00:32:54.990 --> 00:32:57.609
every day and they can mate about a bit. The
785
00:32:57.690 --> 00:33:00.309
eldest one was off out or whatever. Me and husband
786
00:33:00.329 --> 00:33:03.230
were just chilling. And I was like reading and stuff.
787
00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:05.130
So I'm doing that book show. So I'm just constantly
788
00:33:05.170 --> 00:33:07.789
reading at the moment. And we were actually reminiscing going, God,
789
00:33:07.809 --> 00:33:10.990
remember when the kids were little, when we got an
790
00:33:11.029 --> 00:33:13.450
hour like this, which is totally normal to us now
791
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.880
to be in the house by ourselves, we were like
792
00:33:16.019 --> 00:33:18.640
paralyzed by the possibility of what we could do with
793
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.220
an hour of freedom. And you're like, we've got 47
794
00:33:21.220 --> 00:33:24.759
minutes left before they get dropped back by grandma or whatever. Yeah.
795
00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:27.839
And it was so amazing to not have the responsibility
796
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:29.900
of little kids. And as they get older, you get
797
00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:31.920
that so much now that you don't really notice when
798
00:33:31.940 --> 00:33:34.809
you've got that free time. You know, it's like, it's
799
00:33:34.849 --> 00:33:36.809
just lovely when they get bigger. When you just hang
800
00:33:36.869 --> 00:33:38.069
out with them, you can have a laugh, you can
801
00:33:38.130 --> 00:33:41.230
call them a knobhead. You know, you can't really do
802
00:33:41.289 --> 00:33:42.910
that to the face of the little. You could do
803
00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:43.640
it behind their back.
804
00:33:43.740 --> 00:33:45.720
No, but what's the first age when you just called
805
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:47.500
your child a knobhead and thought that was fine?
806
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.039
Probably like 11, I think.
807
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.980
Yeah, secondary school. You could knobhead them off, right? Oh,
808
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.200
you forgot your PE kit.
809
00:33:53.259 --> 00:33:55.099
Oh, you knobhead. Yeah, exactly.
810
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.259
You're a massive knobber. Come here. And it's cute, and
811
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.299
they don't mind. I don't F in front of them.
812
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:01.960
You don't F?
813
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:03.420
Yeah, I'm not like.
814
00:34:03.789 --> 00:34:04.400
F-ing and Jeff-ing.
815
00:34:04.609 --> 00:34:06.890
Yeah, I'm not F-ing and Jeff-ing, because my mum said
816
00:34:06.910 --> 00:34:08.710
the F word when I got my A-level results, and
817
00:34:08.730 --> 00:34:12.190
I'll never forget how devastated I was. LAUGHTER What, because
818
00:34:12.230 --> 00:34:16.289
it was bad? Yeah, I was just like, Mom. She's like, oh,
819
00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:17.570
I'm fucking out. I'm so proud.
820
00:34:17.590 --> 00:34:19.070
Oh, I thought she was off her facts.
821
00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:21.659
Like, that shit's there. Although it was good. It was good.
822
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.880
What the fuck is doing you fucking knobheads?
823
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.599
What the fuck are those three results?
824
00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:28.699
Well, actually, I think it shows that she was clearly
825
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.639
very surprised that she used such a strong expletive that
826
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:32.639
I've done all right.
827
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:33.159
Yeah.
828
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.199
So I don't use F words. My boy, who's 14,
829
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.489
sometimes swears when he's gaming and stuff. I'm like, I do.
830
00:34:40.150 --> 00:34:41.090
it down a little.
831
00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:43.210
Bit what difference have you seen between having a teenage
832
00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:45.889
daughter to a teenage boy is it different do they
833
00:34:46.610 --> 00:34:48.639
so boys i feel like a bit more or online
834
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.300
gaming a bit more aren't they where girls are messaging
835
00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:53.719
more the boys are definitely playing more games i think
836
00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:56.780
for the girls message the messaging and the whatsapp groups
837
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.400
and stuff with the teenage girls.
838
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.820
Yeah so it's pretty similar really because there's roadblocks that
839
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.679
my daughter was on a lot and it's sometimes still
840
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.420
on and that's why she's on there with her group
841
00:35:07.500 --> 00:35:09.969
of mates from school yeah What's the same is it's
842
00:35:10.010 --> 00:35:13.349
lucky both of them have got a really strong group
843
00:35:13.449 --> 00:35:17.349
of close mates. So that's really nice. And actually, I
844
00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:19.590
hang out with my son more than with my little one.
845
00:35:19.610 --> 00:35:22.110
With my little one, I have to grab her and
846
00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:24.150
make her come and hang out and make her do
847
00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:26.940
something with me, like a bit of, you know, baking
848
00:35:26.980 --> 00:35:29.940
or going off and doing something. Whereas my son's kind
849
00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:33.420
of sweet. I mean, he's 40. He's 6'1, and that's
850
00:35:33.539 --> 00:35:34.280
the mad thing.
851
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:34.880
Oh, wow.
852
00:35:35.260 --> 00:35:40.900
Because I'm like 5'8 1⁄2, and when your child overtakes you,
853
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:42.960
so two of them are taller than me now. My
854
00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:49.210
daughter's probably like 5'10. Yeah. And my son is, yeah, 6'1,
855
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.449
no taller than his dad.
856
00:35:50.469 --> 00:35:51.119
Oh, wow.
857
00:35:51.510 --> 00:35:54.909
And it's not there yet, but when they play fight,
858
00:35:55.750 --> 00:36:01.360
my husband's there a bit like, Jesus, ow! LAUGHTER And
859
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.019
then he has to really get in and do a
860
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.119
proper dead arm, you know, because it's getting that like,
861
00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:08.360
you know, that battle for who's like head of the
862
00:36:08.409 --> 00:36:11.269
herd kind of thing. Because my son's, you know, he's
863
00:36:11.289 --> 00:36:14.469
getting big. He's like, it's so funny, this little gorgeous
864
00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:18.329
little pudding. that used to just toddle about. He's now
865
00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:21.179
just like a geezer. He's a bloke. I'm always grabbing
866
00:36:21.219 --> 00:36:23.460
his bare legs like, look at his legs.
867
00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:24.500
How did this happen?
868
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.300
I bet he loves that.
869
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:27.280
Yeah, he does, mate.
870
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.590
Your mate's all round. His mate's round.
871
00:36:29.610 --> 00:36:30.469
You go, look at your legs.
872
00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:31.329
Look at his legs.
873
00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:32.429
Look how big his legs are.
874
00:36:33.289 --> 00:36:35.150
I'll tell you what he brings up all the time.
875
00:36:35.190 --> 00:36:36.949
I think it really did damage him was when I
876
00:36:36.969 --> 00:36:40.150
bit his bum because he's always like, remember you bit
877
00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:42.309
my bum? And I was like, oh yeah, God, you
878
00:36:42.349 --> 00:36:45.769
really remember that? How old was he? Yeah, 14, yeah,
879
00:36:45.789 --> 00:36:48.909
last week. No, he was like five or six or
880
00:36:48.929 --> 00:36:51.429
something and was climbing up onto his top bunk and
881
00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:54.030
he was messing about with someone. I just grabbed his bum,
882
00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:55.880
took a big bite of his bum.
883
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:01.099
The kind of thing you do when they're like squidgy
884
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.940
little babies and then they get to that age like
885
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.599
what are you doing and then.
886
00:37:04.500 --> 00:37:05.840
You go i don't know.
887
00:37:07.969 --> 00:37:10.289
So enjoy that you're still in that you're still in
888
00:37:10.329 --> 00:37:12.730
that age where you can just squid him about and
889
00:37:12.809 --> 00:37:15.630
bite him and blow you can't blow raspberries on a
890
00:37:15.630 --> 00:37:18.090
14 year old's tummy you know so.
891
00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:19.269
Enjoy away from that.
892
00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:26.030
I'm Ivo Graham. And I'm Alex Keeley. We're stand-up comedians
893
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.159
who love music. And we'd like to tell you about
894
00:37:28.179 --> 00:37:29.679
our new podcast, Gig Pigs.
895
00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:32.599
Alex and I have been watching live music together for years,
896
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.619
so we've decided to compromise this hobby, and potentially our friendship,
897
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.329
by turning it into a project.
898
00:37:37.690 --> 00:37:39.630
Every episode, we'll be going to a gig, and then
899
00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:41.750
discussing it afterwards with the friends who came along to
900
00:37:41.789 --> 00:37:42.369
third wheel us.
901
00:37:42.610 --> 00:37:45.170
Asking questions like, did you enjoy the gig? Did you
902
00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:47.599
check the set list in advance? Did you appreciate the
903
00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:49.300
artist's mid-song banter?
904
00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:52.650
Did this gig profoundly change your relationship with live music?
905
00:37:52.789 --> 00:37:54.929
Was the cloakroom queue prohibitively long?
906
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We've been to Franz Ferdinand with Rosematte Feo and Emma Siddy,
907
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Kendrick Lamar with Phil Wang, and The Cure with Cellular AB.
908
00:38:00.699 --> 00:38:02.760
And next month, we're going with Ed Gamble to watch
909
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:03.800
Napalm Death.
910
00:38:04.179 --> 00:38:07.340
Episodes are out from this Thursday and every Thursday thereafter
911
00:38:07.420 --> 00:38:09.469
until attending live music once a week with a different
912
00:38:09.489 --> 00:38:11.449
guest becomes logistically impossible.
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We have no idea how soon that could be, so
914
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join us now by going to your preferred podcast platform
915
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and searching Gig Pigs.
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Do you feel emotional when you think about them being
917
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:23.929
small kids? Do you go, oh, I miss that? Or
918
00:38:24.030 --> 00:38:25.909
are you too much enjoying the fact that you can
919
00:38:26.469 --> 00:38:28.170
sit around reading books?
920
00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:32.119
Well, you know what is really good? You know, at
921
00:38:32.139 --> 00:38:35.960
the moment, over the last month or whatever... when your
922
00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:40.179
phone keeps chucking up old pictures. Yeah. And it's put
923
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.809
together all these albums. It's just constantly now when I
924
00:38:42.889 --> 00:38:46.170
open my phone, there are just little random pics of
925
00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:48.829
the kids when they're little. And if anything, that makes
926
00:38:48.909 --> 00:38:51.230
me feel a bit like, oh, no, you know, because
927
00:38:51.250 --> 00:38:53.869
they were just like, there's a picture of them on
928
00:38:53.909 --> 00:38:56.690
the Isle of Wight ferret. So I had the dog
929
00:38:56.730 --> 00:38:59.389
that we had at the time with us. And the kids,
930
00:38:59.429 --> 00:39:03.099
and the kids I reckon are like two, four and eight.
931
00:39:03.860 --> 00:39:07.659
And it's clearly freezing, but they're grinning like they've got
932
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.300
the puffer coats with the rugs up. And I took
933
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.300
a picture of them out on the rough seas, like
934
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.710
just standing at the edge there on the deck of
935
00:39:13.730 --> 00:39:15.889
the ferry. And that popped up and I was like,
936
00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:18.230
it was so cute, you know, because they're just so
937
00:39:18.269 --> 00:39:22.429
happy with everything's an adventure at that age. And that's
938
00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:24.559
what's kind of lovely. Yeah. But then equally now, we
939
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.159
went to South Africa over the back end of Christmas
940
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.170
and New Year and stuff. And we went to a particular...
941
00:39:30.510 --> 00:39:34.170
garden and they loved it and they were interested whereas
942
00:39:34.210 --> 00:39:35.659
a few years ago it would have been a bit
943
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.079
like we're tired can we bring.
944
00:39:36.909 --> 00:39:40.099
Scooters oh it's boring what are we here for yeah
945
00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:42.000
i want to go to a soft play center or
946
00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:46.199
something finding a cinema in johannesburg okay let's take them
947
00:39:46.219 --> 00:39:48.260
cinema Let's go and watch Trolls 2 again.
948
00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:51.280
Well, we went on one of our family holidays in Devon.
949
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.739
When we were there, the weather was really bad and
950
00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:56.980
we were sat in basically a massive industrial unit that
951
00:39:57.019 --> 00:40:01.300
was a trampoline park. Oh my God, those places. And
952
00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:04.230
I booked an Ibiza villa for the year after while
953
00:40:04.289 --> 00:40:07.789
sitting in that industrial trampoline park. I'm not doing this
954
00:40:07.809 --> 00:40:10.550
to get on the We had so many holidays like that.
955
00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:13.630
And I'm sure you guys are deep in that. Yeah.
956
00:40:13.869 --> 00:40:14.789
Me and Lou do that.
957
00:40:14.849 --> 00:40:17.090
We go through phases of going, well, the weather's always
958
00:40:17.170 --> 00:40:18.449
lovely in the UK in August.
959
00:40:18.530 --> 00:40:21.000
Let's just enjoy the UK. And then you do that
960
00:40:21.019 --> 00:40:22.860
and go, fuck this. It's raining again.
961
00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:24.280
Why didn't we just book a holiday?
962
00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:25.300
Like never again.
963
00:40:25.969 --> 00:40:28.210
Did you find time for stuff like reading and all
964
00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:31.400
that stuff? Or did you find when your kids suddenly
965
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.559
got old, you were like, wow, I can get all
966
00:40:33.579 --> 00:40:35.460
my hobbies back. I can do stuff.
967
00:40:35.579 --> 00:40:38.039
Yeah, I mean, I got a horse. That's when I
968
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.300
was like, right, yeah, they're bigger now. And when I
969
00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:41.079
got a.
970
00:40:41.099 --> 00:40:42.610
What age were your kids when you got a horse?
971
00:40:42.769 --> 00:40:44.170
Not that I want to get a horse, but my
972
00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:46.510
version of the horse. What age am I? What is
973
00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:49.309
your version of the horse? A Plymouth season ticket. What's
974
00:40:49.329 --> 00:40:52.789
my version? Yeah, season ticket. Plymouth Argyle. That's Josh's horse.
975
00:40:53.389 --> 00:40:56.219
No hesitation. That's just right away. Yeah, the season ticket
976
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:56.980
would be the one.
977
00:40:57.260 --> 00:40:59.619
It's probably cheaper to buy a player for Plymouth than
978
00:40:59.659 --> 00:41:00.780
to have a horse.
979
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:03.619
I don't think that's very funny, but yeah.
980
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:07.639
I think the youngest was like nine.
981
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.460
Oh, for the love of God. Do they ride as well?
982
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.579
Well, the eldest can a bit. And then I tried
983
00:41:13.659 --> 00:41:15.590
to with the other two a little bit, but they
984
00:41:15.610 --> 00:41:17.989
weren't massively into it. And I would have been really
985
00:41:18.050 --> 00:41:20.349
forcing it. And it was expensive, you know, to take
986
00:41:20.369 --> 00:41:22.369
them for lessons and that. If they're not that into
987
00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:25.650
it then. But, you know, my son can skateboard a
988
00:41:25.670 --> 00:41:28.349
bit and my husband used to love skateboarding. So I'm
989
00:41:28.409 --> 00:41:32.699
always like, babe, be careful. Because my husband's like, come here,
990
00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:33.070
I can.
991
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:37.000
show you how to do a bit of that i
992
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.880
used to skateboard 23 years ago let's go let's get
993
00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:40.679
back on the half.
994
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.920
Pipe exactly he's 47 and he's like yeah let me
995
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.519
just have a i'm just like oh my god his
996
00:41:46.579 --> 00:41:50.320
bones must be so hollow compared to when he was
997
00:41:50.389 --> 00:41:53.369
a teen please be careful uh but yeah no they've
998
00:41:53.429 --> 00:41:55.489
all got their stuff that they're into but i've not
999
00:41:55.550 --> 00:41:58.329
forced them into the into the ride i mean do you.
1000
00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:00.210
Try and get into their stuff are you trying to
1001
00:42:00.230 --> 00:42:03.139
be cool and down with the kids. Are you offering
1002
00:42:03.179 --> 00:42:04.179
opinions on TikTok?
1003
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.550
No, not really. The one TikTok of mine that did
1004
00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:11.329
really well was one that my 12-year-old filmed and put
1005
00:42:11.409 --> 00:42:13.949
up and stuff. Really? Where I dressed up as her.
1006
00:42:14.530 --> 00:42:15.550
Oh, that one?
1007
00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:18.429
Yeah, it's cute. Where you dress as your kid.
1008
00:42:18.449 --> 00:42:21.340
Yeah, that's that little trend where you go, but they
1009
00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:22.659
put your age as well, don't they?
1010
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.800
Did she put your age? That's the thing they do.
1011
00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:28.119
They'll be like, my so-and-so aged dad dressed up as me.
1012
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.820
I always feel like the age is too far. Just
1013
00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:31.710
say my parents.
1014
00:42:31.730 --> 00:42:32.690
We know they're older.
1015
00:42:32.710 --> 00:42:33.030
Yeah.
1016
00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:36.190
I know it's around something between 20 and 40 years
1017
00:42:36.309 --> 00:42:37.170
older than you are.
1018
00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:39.400
Why do you have to put the exact number?
1019
00:42:39.420 --> 00:42:42.099
Yeah, I don't know if my age is on there.
1020
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.050
I mean, it wasn't that different. I don't really try
1021
00:42:45.090 --> 00:42:48.550
and get into their stuff too much, really. I mean,
1022
00:42:49.070 --> 00:42:52.170
my husband's funny because my husband's a massive hip hop
1023
00:42:52.230 --> 00:42:55.510
fan and a fan of rap. And so he's thrilled
1024
00:42:55.650 --> 00:42:59.880
that without any pushing at all, my son is now really,
1025
00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:02.340
really into hip hop. That's just the music that he's
1026
00:43:02.380 --> 00:43:04.920
drawn to and that he loves. It's cute. He can like,
1027
00:43:04.940 --> 00:43:07.079
you know, they can like enjoy a bit of rap
1028
00:43:07.099 --> 00:43:09.280
music together because my husband knows all the lyrics.
1029
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:11.619
I like rap and hip hop, but some of the words,
1030
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:12.960
there's a lot of swearing in it.
1031
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.489
It's like reading, it's like Sarah Cox doing her audio
1032
00:43:15.530 --> 00:43:16.219
book sometimes.
1033
00:43:16.630 --> 00:43:16.869
Yeah.
1034
00:43:16.889 --> 00:43:17.150
Yeah.
1035
00:43:17.969 --> 00:43:19.710
But they love it because they really like sort of
1036
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:22.329
bass and big beats and stuff like that. So they're like, oh,
1037
00:43:22.349 --> 00:43:24.570
we like this one. Because they had like Bassline Junkie
1038
00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:27.880
by Dizzy Rascal on. And he goes, play that fucking bass.
1039
00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:30.500
Put some fucking bass on that. Fuck you.
1040
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:31.159
Fuck off.
1041
00:43:31.219 --> 00:43:33.989
And I'm like, okay, good. I'm trying to dip the volume.
1042
00:43:34.010 --> 00:43:35.550
Did you get mad the one where it's like... I
1043
00:43:35.550 --> 00:43:38.309
don't want no cannabis. I don't want no coke.
1044
00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:38.590
And all that.
1045
00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:41.349
Yeah, and the kids are singing along to it.
1046
00:43:41.349 --> 00:43:46.250
Listing drugs, saying, bitch, fuck off, fuck you, baseline junkie.
1047
00:43:46.670 --> 00:43:49.090
I don't want smack, bass is my drug and all that.
1048
00:43:49.110 --> 00:43:51.289
I don't know if there are like versions of those
1049
00:43:51.329 --> 00:43:52.610
songs that you can get.
1050
00:43:52.630 --> 00:43:54.690
It seems to be like it always comes up as explicit.
1051
00:43:54.710 --> 00:43:58.710
Don't be such a square with your Christian versions of
1052
00:43:58.750 --> 00:44:01.369
hip hop songs. That baseline junkie song. Have you got
1053
00:44:01.449 --> 00:44:02.630
one that's about loving God?
1054
00:44:03.889 --> 00:44:08.119
It could be like Jesus Junkie instead.
1055
00:44:08.179 --> 00:44:10.219
Jesus Walks by Kanye West.
1056
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.530
Well, no, on Fun Kids UK, which we used to
1057
00:44:14.590 --> 00:44:17.809
listen to quite a bit, they will have, like, it's
1058
00:44:17.969 --> 00:44:22.349
all the pop music. but like Dua Lipa's rules, you know,
1059
00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:24.969
it'd be like one, don't pick up the phone, you know,
1060
00:44:25.010 --> 00:44:27.670
instead of like drunk.
1061
00:44:28.030 --> 00:44:29.659
Oh, Fun Kids UK.
1062
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:29.780
Yes.
1063
00:44:30.389 --> 00:44:34.360
So Fun Kids UK is a radio station and they re-record.
1064
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.380
So it sounds so similar. Or they might just re-record
1065
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.679
certain bits of the verse. It's really clever how they
1066
00:44:39.699 --> 00:44:41.559
do it. And you're like... hang on that's not right
1067
00:44:41.579 --> 00:44:43.300
because instead of like well i'm gonna pick up the
1068
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.239
phone is you know it's only carlin because you're drunk
1069
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.619
and alone or whatever right yeah but instead it'll be
1070
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.739
like you know isn't it carlin because you know you're
1071
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:56.150
playing yo-yo alone it's really clever it's really cute oh.
1072
00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:58.369
That's so do you re-record the whole vocal or does
1073
00:44:58.409 --> 00:45:00.570
it just change to like yeah like you know when
1074
00:45:00.590 --> 00:45:02.809
it's dubbed over so it's really good and there's like
1075
00:45:02.849 --> 00:45:04.789
playing yo-yo Over the top, or is it.
1076
00:45:04.849 --> 00:45:05.409
Request a song.
1077
00:45:05.469 --> 00:45:06.090
Does it work?
1078
00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:09.329
Yeah, it's really clever. It's really funny. We were banging
1079
00:45:09.429 --> 00:45:11.590
to Fun Kids UK for a bit.
1080
00:45:11.929 --> 00:45:13.159
Right, okay. There we go.
1081
00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:15.349
I even tried to, yeah, get a blag on there,
1082
00:45:15.550 --> 00:45:16.130
blag a show.
1083
00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:18.829
You can request a song Friday nights, right?
1084
00:45:18.929 --> 00:45:21.070
So I might ask for Bassline Junkie by Dizzy Rascal
1085
00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:22.570
and see what she can do with it, this lady.
1086
00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:23.659
Bex.
1087
00:45:23.989 --> 00:45:26.380
I don't want no biscuits. I don't want no crisps.
1088
00:45:26.389 --> 00:45:31.980
I don't want no Kit Kats. Have you had to have, like,
1089
00:45:32.059 --> 00:45:36.030
chats about... adult topics with your teenage kids.
1090
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.030
Of course. And how was that? Well, when you do
1091
00:45:38.070 --> 00:45:40.690
the sex chat and the birds and the bees, you've
1092
00:45:40.730 --> 00:45:44.090
also got to add in sexting and you've got to
1093
00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:48.710
add in consent. Yeah. And all the big issues, you know,
1094
00:45:48.829 --> 00:45:53.250
alongside of the, you know, to my eldest, obviously, you know,
1095
00:45:53.289 --> 00:45:54.949
keeping an eye on her drinks so she doesn't get
1096
00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:58.170
her drinks spiked, you know, to all the kids about
1097
00:45:58.190 --> 00:46:00.010
what to do if you get mugged, that might be
1098
00:46:00.050 --> 00:46:03.730
very much a big city thing. Yeah. So it's, you know,
1099
00:46:03.750 --> 00:46:06.289
it goes way beyond the birds and the bees sort
1100
00:46:06.329 --> 00:46:10.360
of stuff. God, that's... Which is quite heavy, you know.
1101
00:46:10.460 --> 00:46:13.739
I'm worried that I haven't got the... I'm not going
1102
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.579
to feel comfortable. Is that the kind of thing you
1103
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.619
were comfortable with? When do you ever feel comfortable, though, Josh?
1104
00:46:17.949 --> 00:46:21.750
I never feel comfortable. I feel particularly uncomfortable. Particularly uncomfortable.
1105
00:46:22.969 --> 00:46:25.409
Oh, no, you meant that sex scene. You were so
1106
00:46:25.489 --> 00:46:26.070
up for it.
1107
00:46:26.150 --> 00:46:28.849
Oh, he loved that. Maybe I could just read that
1108
00:46:29.050 --> 00:46:31.889
to her. He's fine with fingering, Sarah. When it comes
1109
00:46:31.909 --> 00:46:32.860
to fingering, he's fine.
1110
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.039
Anything more than that, he can't.
1111
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:35.619
Deal with it.
1112
00:46:35.699 --> 00:46:35.900
Yeah.
1113
00:46:36.460 --> 00:46:37.699
Your next novel, give me a shout.
1114
00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:42.480
That would be so good if just Josh's voice, if
1115
00:46:42.539 --> 00:46:43.960
your voice just came in.
1116
00:46:43.980 --> 00:46:46.989
Just popped up. I love that.
1117
00:46:47.050 --> 00:46:50.809
For all the rude bits. Can you do a Scottish accent?
1118
00:46:50.849 --> 00:46:52.360
Because we could get Sasha back.
1119
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.400
No, I can't do a Scottish accent, sorry.
1120
00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:57.960
But yeah, no, you'll be fine because by then you'll
1121
00:46:57.980 --> 00:47:00.880
have been through all the stages of parenting.
1122
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.219
Yeah.
1123
00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:03.219
And also at school, they get taught a lot of
1124
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.320
sex education. They're aware of it slightly as well. It's
1125
00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:07.389
sort of a group effort. It's not just you corner
1126
00:47:07.409 --> 00:47:08.800
this sort of innocent kid.
1127
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.010
So I've got one question I did need to ask you, Sarah,
1128
00:47:12.610 --> 00:47:15.670
on parenting, which is there's a parent at my daughter's
1129
00:47:15.710 --> 00:47:18.789
gymnastics school. who trades quite a lot on being a
1130
00:47:18.829 --> 00:47:20.329
good mate of yours. Oh, this is good.
1131
00:47:20.349 --> 00:47:22.329
Oh, interesting. I'm leaning in. Yeah.
1132
00:47:22.849 --> 00:47:24.809
And I want to just check if they are good
1133
00:47:24.849 --> 00:47:26.829
mates with you. Are you good friends with a man
1134
00:47:26.869 --> 00:47:27.949
called David Laub?
1135
00:47:28.780 --> 00:47:29.820
Oh, yeah, I am.
1136
00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:31.000
He's my son's godfather.
1137
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:31.760
Oh, Lauby.
1138
00:47:31.780 --> 00:47:34.440
That's a real shame. He came in hot. He came
1139
00:47:34.500 --> 00:47:35.119
in strong.
1140
00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:36.420
Just questioned him.
1141
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:36.519
Yeah.
1142
00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:39.719
I didn't question him. I'm just like, I just need
1143
00:47:39.739 --> 00:47:42.309
to double check this. He's a godfather to your son.
1144
00:47:42.949 --> 00:47:45.250
Yeah, he's one of Ben's oldest mates. They used to
1145
00:47:45.269 --> 00:47:47.070
have a bath together. Ask him about that.
1146
00:47:47.130 --> 00:47:47.929
Really?
1147
00:47:48.289 --> 00:47:50.469
They got put in the bath together when they were little,
1148
00:47:50.510 --> 00:47:52.380
having sleepovers. They're that close.
1149
00:47:52.429 --> 00:47:53.679
After 30 from skateboarding.
1150
00:47:53.699 --> 00:47:57.880
Skateboarding. You can also use his other name, which is Ravid. Ravid?
1151
00:47:57.900 --> 00:48:00.940
Because he'd always be the one still going when we're like, look,
1152
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.380
he's over. Yes. It's over. Yeah. You know. Yeah.
1153
00:48:05.539 --> 00:48:07.840
Stop now. I'll call and rave it on Sunday morning.
1154
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.519
That's why all the parents in the East End, like
1155
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.639
where you live, Victoria Parkway, want to talk to each other.
1156
00:48:12.659 --> 00:48:14.809
They're all old school ravers. They love it. We're all
1157
00:48:14.849 --> 00:48:16.070
still up, Rob. We're all still up.
1158
00:48:18.730 --> 00:48:21.230
Oh, the final question, Sarah, we always ask. It's a
1159
00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:23.670
two pronged one. Basically, what's the one thing that your
1160
00:48:23.769 --> 00:48:26.630
partner does parenting wise that really winds you up? And
1161
00:48:26.670 --> 00:48:28.199
you sort of clash with him about. And if he
1162
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.199
listened back, you go, fair enough. And then what's the
1163
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.389
other thing that he does that you think, oh, that's
1164
00:48:32.429 --> 00:48:34.489
why I'm so happy we had kids together? You're an
1165
00:48:34.510 --> 00:48:35.110
amazing dad.
1166
00:48:35.250 --> 00:48:40.699
Oh, that's cute. Okay, so the first one is he
1167
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.000
will not let them do anything for themselves, like when
1168
00:48:45.059 --> 00:48:47.260
it comes to, because he's in charge of the kitchen
1169
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.119
and keeping the kitchen nice mainly. He will, no, actually
1170
00:48:51.139 --> 00:48:52.639
that's not a very good one. Let me have a think.
1171
00:48:52.699 --> 00:48:54.860
I was just going to say that he just, you know,
1172
00:48:54.900 --> 00:48:57.179
he'll take over and I'm like, they'll never learn how
1173
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:57.739
to do it.
1174
00:48:58.139 --> 00:48:59.440
Well, he just does it for them.
1175
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.559
Yeah, and I'm a bit like... Well, I think.
1176
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.449
That's a fair one because if you clean up after them,
1177
00:49:04.469 --> 00:49:06.269
you'll be cleaning up after them forever. You'll be going
1178
00:49:06.309 --> 00:49:08.190
to visit her at uni and then tidying the kitchen.
1179
00:49:08.429 --> 00:49:10.800
This is it. I'm like, it's our job to raise
1180
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.570
them so that when we release them eventually into society,
1181
00:49:14.570 --> 00:49:18.550
they'll be able to like make Hassani and be like
1182
00:49:18.570 --> 00:49:19.190
you know so you.
1183
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.579
Do talk about them like you're releasing a lion back
1184
00:49:21.619 --> 00:49:23.760
into the world like you're never going to see him
1185
00:49:23.900 --> 00:49:26.679
again once I release them you know I'll never see him.
1186
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.159
Ever again I'm born free like we'll see him again
1187
00:49:30.179 --> 00:49:32.639
we won't recognise him you know and I'll chase them
1188
00:49:32.699 --> 00:49:35.579
away like I'll tell you what he does. My husband's
1189
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.739
amazing and he's a brilliant, brilliant dad. And he's such
1190
00:49:38.780 --> 00:49:40.909
a good dad that he doesn't really like being the
1191
00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:43.670
bad guy. So what he'll do is he will wind
1192
00:49:43.789 --> 00:49:47.769
me up so much about something so that I then
1193
00:49:47.869 --> 00:49:49.909
go and have a go at the kids about it.
1194
00:49:50.010 --> 00:49:52.949
And he'll stand behind me going like. oh, she's mad today.
1195
00:49:53.010 --> 00:49:54.909
I don't know what's got into her. Sorry, kids. You
1196
00:49:54.929 --> 00:49:57.489
know what I mean? And my mum's got a good
1197
00:49:57.530 --> 00:49:59.840
saying about, you know, he'll load the gun and I'll
1198
00:49:59.909 --> 00:50:03.380
fire it. Oh, yes. Like, he'll get me so wound up.
1199
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.320
And then he's a bit like, it's not that bad.
1200
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.739
She did tidy it earlier. And I'm like, what? She's
1201
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:12.980
just been texting me at work. You're like furious. Get
1202
00:50:13.019 --> 00:50:15.360
to me, old hair top. Yeah, and then he's the
1203
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:16.239
good guy.
1204
00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:17.739
That's bad. That is bad.
1205
00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:19.289
Isn't that a bit of a thing, though? Don't you
1206
00:50:19.329 --> 00:50:21.030
have that with your other half?
1207
00:50:21.130 --> 00:50:22.230
Never heard of that before.
1208
00:50:22.389 --> 00:50:22.489
No.
1209
00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:25.190
In any functional relationship, I've never heard of that. But no,
1210
00:50:25.289 --> 00:50:26.739
I recognise that behaviour.
1211
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.650
In any relationship that's lasted. Yeah. And the good thing is,
1212
00:50:31.829 --> 00:50:35.400
I mean, he's just Mr. Taxi Man. He's really good.
1213
00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:38.199
But I'm like, they can get six buses, two tubes
1214
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:39.420
of train and a hovercraft.
1215
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.099
They'll be fine.
1216
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.059
They've grown up. And he'll be like, I'll go and
1217
00:50:42.099 --> 00:50:44.969
pick them up from, because my kids go to school
1218
00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:47.090
in the centre of town, their mates are from all
1219
00:50:47.190 --> 00:50:49.949
over London. So he'll be like, you know, there'll be
1220
00:50:49.989 --> 00:50:52.150
a busty party or something and it'll be like, you know,
1221
00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:55.840
he's got a, schlep over to chelsea or somewhere at
1222
00:50:56.429 --> 00:50:58.639
like 11 o'clock on a saturday night.
1223
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And that can be like an hour drive you know
1224
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i mean in london it's mad isn't it like something
1225
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that's just around the corner can be a 45 minute
1226
00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:07.380
drive there 45 minute pack yeah absolute.
1227
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.099
Madness and he'll always do that he'll always go and
1228
00:51:09.139 --> 00:51:11.039
pick him up and he's always like it's my job
1229
00:51:11.099 --> 00:51:13.099
isn't it he's just mega taxi man.
1230
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:17.440
Mega taxi man fair enough Sarah, thank you so much,
1231
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and good luck with the paperback release. Hopefully you get
1232
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.159
back to number one rather than second.
1233
00:51:22.179 --> 00:51:25.989
Yeah, this is the time. Osman's going to be sweating it.
1234
00:51:26.230 --> 00:51:27.449
Osman's given you a quote, though.
1235
00:51:27.849 --> 00:51:30.449
Yeah, he has, bless him. That was nice of him,
1236
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wasn't it?
1237
00:51:31.170 --> 00:51:33.530
It is nice. He didn't realise you were a competitor
1238
00:51:33.570 --> 00:51:35.190
at that point, and then he gave you a quote.
1239
00:51:35.610 --> 00:51:38.230
He knows he's got no competitors. He's the light and
1240
00:51:38.269 --> 00:51:40.510
equivalent of the publishing world. He ain't got no one
1241
00:51:40.570 --> 00:51:41.679
after him. He's fine.
1242
00:51:42.250 --> 00:51:44.550
Let's give us his quote, though. Thrown is a gloriously
1243
00:51:44.610 --> 00:51:47.860
big-hearted story about four women who attend their local community
1244
00:51:47.900 --> 00:51:50.599
centre pottery class, a fresh and insightful take on how
1245
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.579
change can happen through female friendships, described as so full
1246
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:56.579
of humour and heart by Richard Osman.
1247
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:57.760
No, the first bit.
1248
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:58.119
P.S.
1249
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.340
I love the fingering bit. No, no, his one is
1250
00:52:01.429 --> 00:52:03.309
so full of humour and heart by Richard Osman.
1251
00:52:03.489 --> 00:52:05.389
Yeah, his one was humour and heart.
1252
00:52:05.409 --> 00:52:07.289
I was going to say, fucking hell, Richard. All right,
1253
00:52:07.309 --> 00:52:10.030
calm down, mate. He's done a full premise. His quote was,
1254
00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:11.389
I've got long fingers as well.
1255
00:52:15.699 --> 00:52:16.539
Oh, my God.
1256
00:52:16.659 --> 00:52:17.119
Sorry.
1257
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:19.659
But good luck with the paperback release. Hopefully you get
1258
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:21.360
to the top of the charts again, Sarah. And good
1259
00:52:21.380 --> 00:52:23.949
luck with your show. You're on Radio 2 every day.
1260
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.070
And obviously your book club review show on BBC2.
1261
00:52:26.489 --> 00:52:27.670
Thanks so much for coming on.
1262
00:52:27.690 --> 00:52:29.769
Yeah, lovely. Thanks very much. Lovely to chat.
1263
00:52:29.789 --> 00:52:30.510
Cheers, Sarah.
1264
00:52:30.550 --> 00:52:31.949
Thanks. Bye. Cheers, mate.
1265
00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:32.449
Have a good day.
1266
00:52:32.469 --> 00:52:33.010
Cheers, bye.
1267
00:52:35.420 --> 00:52:37.639
Sarah Cox. Love Sarah Cox.
1268
00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:39.280
Radio 2 family, me and her.
1269
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:41.800
Yeah. Is she in the Radio 2 WhatsApp group with you?
1270
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.300
Oh, yeah, yeah, we're in there. People keep leaving it, though, awkwardly.
1271
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.550
Ken Bruce left the conversation. Well, if there is a
1272
00:52:48.610 --> 00:52:52.590
Radio 2 presenter WhatsApp group, I'm not in it. Oh, no, Rob.
1273
00:52:52.630 --> 00:52:55.610
I don't know if there is. Maybe there is. No,
1274
00:52:55.670 --> 00:52:57.389
there won't be. I don't think so. The age of
1275
00:52:57.409 --> 00:52:59.380
some of them, they haven't got WhatsApp. Shall I start one?
1276
00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:02.159
I'll start one with Tony Blackburn and Whispering Barbarous and
1277
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:03.099
work backwards from there.
1278
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:03.400
Oh, yeah.
1279
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:05.719
Have you gotten Tony Blackburn's number? Can we get Tony
1280
00:53:05.739 --> 00:53:07.900
Blackburn on this? He must have kids. Yeah, he's brilliant.
1281
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:11.199
Should I get him on? Let's get Tony Blackburn. Yeah.
1282
00:53:11.260 --> 00:53:12.099
He's got a couple of kids.
1283
00:53:12.340 --> 00:53:13.900
Oh, that's great. But Sarah's great.
1284
00:53:14.099 --> 00:53:14.900
Yeah, no, we love Sarah.
1285
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.820
She's brilliant. I love Sarah Cox. Throne is her book,
1286
00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:19.929
which is out now in paperback.
1287
00:53:20.110 --> 00:53:22.309
And her memoirs as well. I bet that's amazing. It's
1288
00:53:22.349 --> 00:53:24.710
quite interesting that she obviously is pining for loads of
1289
00:53:24.769 --> 00:53:26.889
animals because she's living on that farm.
1290
00:53:28.030 --> 00:53:28.929
Yeah, brilliant, Sarah Cox.
1291
00:53:29.070 --> 00:53:30.329
Listen to her on the radio, buy her book, watch
1292
00:53:30.349 --> 00:53:32.889
her show, and we'll be back on Tuesday of another episode.
1293
00:53:32.989 --> 00:53:33.559
Cheers, guys.
1294
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:33.780
Bye.
1295
00:53:37.289 --> 00:53:39.309
If you are not in the queue and you are waiting,
1296
00:53:39.349 --> 00:53:42.429
then step to the side. He got in touch. He said, yeah, sorry, mate.
1297
00:53:42.449 --> 00:53:44.469
You didn't seem like yourself the other day. You've only
1298
00:53:44.489 --> 00:53:45.619
met me three times.
1299
00:53:45.659 --> 00:53:48.659
The self-service checkout. I don't care what you're called. I'm
1300
00:53:48.699 --> 00:53:50.760
not getting tricked into working here.
1301
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.519
People at festivals in those stupid jester hats. I glanced
1302
00:53:54.539 --> 00:53:56.500
at a tampon.
1303
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£ 2.
1304
00:53:56.500 --> 00:53:58.349
69 for a bottle of water. Why is your Wi-Fi
1305
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code 10 characters long?
1306
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