S10 EP28: George Egg

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
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I discuss what it's really like to be a parent.
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Which I would say can be a little tricky.
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So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
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Or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with
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your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.
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Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when
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none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Can you say
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Josh Widdicombe? Can you say Rob Beckett? Very good, Yuki.
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Good job. Yuki, love it. I love the way you
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say it. Good girl.
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Here's my two-year-old attempting to introduce you guys. She's half
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Japanese and half English. Her name is Yuki Georgina. She
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also tries to say... otosukarasama deshita which means thank you
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for working hard they're all there about yuki likes eating
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natto google it disgusting n-a-t-t-o thanks for the great podcast
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joe in kanazawa ishikawa in japan jeez you've.
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Done well there mate thanks mate yeah.
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Natto natto natto what is natto is fermented soybeans Oh, dear.
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Characterized by a slimy, sticky, and streaky texture. Oh, they
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look fucking awful. And it looks like porridge, Josh.
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Oh, come on. Come on. It doesn't look that good.
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So he lives in Japan. He lives in Japan. Jack. Jack. Jack? Josh. Yeah.
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We've gone so Japanese in our house.
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The girls are eating with chopsticks and listening to the
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My Neighbor Totoro soundtrack. Really?
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It's instrumental Japanese music, mate. Is it?
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I've got some little fucking Radio 6 music bastards in
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my house. I'm going to have to shut these windows
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because it's freezing cold and the doves have gone.
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Okay. Okay. Fine. Okay. Time for our guest now, George Egg.
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George Egg, hello. Hello, gentlemen. How nice to see you.
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I was going to say comedian and... Food chef, food writer.
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I don't know. You don't know. You don't care.
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I care, but I've spent my life spanning genres and
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being difficult to categorize.
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I remember when I first started doing stand-up, you used
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to do loads of massive suitcase prop stuff.
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Yeah.
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Do you still do that alongside the cooking stuff or
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is what's taken over? Very infrequently. I mean, I.
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So I'm doing Glastonbury this year, and I'll do a
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stand-up set there.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, the food thing totally took over, I guess,
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10 years ago when I did my first Edinburgh show,
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the poster of which just happens to be behind me
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covering up an unmade spare bed.
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So, George, tell us about your life set up kids-wise.
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Well, my life set up kids-wise is that I've got
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three of them, but they're all adults. They're all adults.
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But what have I now got at the tender age
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of 52? And that's a grandson.
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Oh, okay. Can we have the age of the kids
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and the age of the grandson, please, George? Let me
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take a picture of my mind.
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My eldest, who is the father of my grandson, is 28,
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29 in a couple of weeks' time. Yeah, and so
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I had him when I was 23, and then my
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grandson is one.
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Oh, blimey. So you had a kid at 23, George? Yeah. Well,
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that's 23 as well. My birthday's March, and he was
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born in June. I wonder you had a big suitcase
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in the stand-up set.
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All the kids, muslins, spare dummies, as well as all
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your jokes.
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So when you had a kid at 23, what was
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that like? Because these days, when you said your son
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had had a kid at 28, you go.
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These days, like even when we were kids, I'd say
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if you said what's the average age of our parents
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when we were born, it would have been about 28.
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But it feels like it's moved on maybe to like 35.
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Well, he feels he feels young to be a dad.
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And he said so he lives in southwest London. in Barnes,
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and it's all quite posh around there. Oh, bloody hell, George.
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He's done well for himself. He's in a rental property
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on the sort of outskirts.
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It's not.
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And he feels really... He feels very out of place.
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There, you know. And he feels like everyone else, it's
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all posh people. Yeah. You have a little posh grandson? No,
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he's not at all. He said, they'll sound like me.
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You know, it's all... South London kind of thing. Where
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are you from in South London, George? Forest Hill. Oh, well,
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you're really near me. I grew up in Mottingham. Right. Oh, right. Well, yeah.
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No, so I brought up there and then moved out when, well,
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moved to Brighton when I was 19 to go to
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university and then just stayed down here.
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At 23.
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So what was you doing at 23 when you had him?
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Was you doing stand-up or was you doing something else?
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Yeah. So I started doing street entertaining, first of all,
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when I was 16. And I used to, I used
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to go and busk. What was your shtick?
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It was magic. I mean, it was kind of what
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sort of veered into when I started doing standup as well,
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you know, kind of doing the same thing basically. So
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I had a lot of props. I used to do like, uh,
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I used to bang a nail in my nose and magic,
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you know, I kind of grew some magic razor blades
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and stuff.
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Can I be, can I, I don't want to get
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you thrown out there. You're the magic circle. No, I'm not.
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And do you know what as well? I'm, I'm just appalling, uh, uh,
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Keeping secrets. So, you know, people go, how'd you do that?
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Come on, yeah, all right. So, do you want to
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know how I do the nail in the... Yeah, of
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course I do.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It just goes in. That's it. There's no trick to
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it at all. What? Literally, your nasal passage... I mean, obviously, you.
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Know, this is a podcast that might be listened to.
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Yeah, don't do this at home. Don't do this at home.
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Don't do this at home.
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Children, as their parents are listening to it. But, so,
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where you breathe... You know, your nasal passage goes back
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parallel with the roof of your mouth to the back
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of your throat.
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And if it went wrong, if it went wrong, would
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you have hammered a nail into your brain?
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I don't think so because it goes, it kind of
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goes under your, unless my brain is a weird one
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that kind of comes under my chin.
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It's just like, you know when for comic relief they
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get children to ask questions on podcasts?
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This one's from Sarah, if it's actually six minutes.
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But yeah, so anyway, so you literally, I mean, it just.
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And what about the razor blades? What would you do
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with the razor blades? So I used to do a trick.
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I'd eat a load of, it's a classic old trick.
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Eat a load of razor blades, then eat some cotton
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and then get the end of the cotton, give it
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to someone in the audience.
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Then they pull it out and they're all tied on.
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So how do you do that? That's just, that's just
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the trick. I mean, it's like swapping kind of thing.
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A sort of swapping thing. Are they real razor blades? Yeah,
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they are.
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And you cut paper with them and then... I haven't
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done any of this for like 30-odd years.
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They're sneaky, aren't they, magicians? I think it's inherent. Sneaky.
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Really sneaky. It's the thing, little sneaky... Little sneaky. Do
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you know what they are? Do you know what they are?
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They're liars. They're bloody liars. Bloody hell. So anyway, so
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I did, so I did that when I was 16.
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So I used to do that at Greenwich by the
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Cutty Sark. And then I went over and did Cobham
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Garden and then started doing, well, there were other performers
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at Greenwich doing straight entertaining who did Up the Creek.
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So I started.
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So I went and did open spots up the Creek
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when I was 19. And that's the first, the first
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place that gave me paid twenties when I was 19
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was up the Creek.
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And so you had a kid while all this is
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going on.
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Yeah. So, well, when I went to, so I moved
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to Brighton when I was 19, started doing standup, then
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went to university there and then yeah, got together with Nikki, my,
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my now wife and she's a bit older than me.
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So she's four, four and a half years older than me.
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So she was, I mean, we're still, you know, young
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as well. She was like, you know, 27.
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What was that.
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Like combining like, because we've both had kids at points
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when our lives are quite, our careers are quite established
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and settled and stuff. Did it feel like you suddenly
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had taken on a like, oh, I've got to take
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this a bit more seriously now. I'm not just some
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bloke putting a nail up my nose. This is the
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point where a lot of people go, right, I've got
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a kid now.
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I can't. Cause it's almost seen as a luxury being
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in the arts or performing. And it's like, right. A
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lot of people I imagine would have been on you
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to go, right. Okay.
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You've done your bit of sleep performing. You've done a
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bit of standup now. Now you need a proper job.
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Cause you've got kids. Was there pressure like that on you?
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Exactly that.
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So, I mean, literally what happened is, is Nikki got
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pregnant and I was, yeah, as I said, I was doing,
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doing bit of street entertaining, doing a few gigs, but
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not many because I was still quite sort of a
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special act, you know? So a lot of places were like, Oh,
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it's a bit, it's not kind of what we want
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you know everyone wanted much more kind of conventional stand-up
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um and yeah and so then when she got pregnant
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so I just kind of thought okay either I turn
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this into a career or I go and do something
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else so it was it was when she was pregnant
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that I kind of did the blitzing the open spots
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and just called everyone up and said can I come
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and do five minutes and then and then it yeah
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and then it sort of it worked and I was
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earning enough I mean you know horrible horrible to say
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to anyone listening who's like want to buy a house
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or anything like that now it was a time when
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property was cheaper.
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And what did you pay for your house george well i.
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Went do you really want to know so we had
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a flat we had a two-bedroom maisonette in brighton yeah
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above a shop so we had private front door and
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stairs so loads of hall space two bedrooms.
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And it was 29 and a half grand. Yeah. But hey, here's...
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Did you get a mortgage? Yeah, but... £ 100 a month?
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I got a mortgage from.
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So I was still an art student when I got
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a mortgage. And the way I got the mortgage is...
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So I went to the bank and I said, you know,
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I've looked at how much properties are. I've worked out
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if I'm... I'll be paying less in repayments than I'm
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currently paying in rent. And they said, well, you need
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to show that you're earning... So I had to get
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letters from people who booked me. And so there was
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like this street entertaining agent who wrote a letter saying, oh, yeah,
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I'm paying him a couple of grand's worth of work
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a year and whatever. And then one of the people
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was Malcolm Hardy. And he wrote a letter on Up
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the Creek headed paper, just complete lies. Just saying, I'm
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employing George for 10 grand's worth of work a year
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when I do up the creek like two or three.
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Weekends a year. And that was it.
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Anyway, and that, there was like, you know, I don't know,
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six or seven letters. And that was enough to get
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a mortgage from the bank.
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Yeah, I know. Nuts, isn't it?
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When we were trying to get a mortgage, I was like,
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open mic circuit, doing like, probably similar position to you,
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of doing like a couple of paid weekends. And I
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remember Lou, we actually used Lou's teacher's salary. It was
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the main way we could get a mortgage. And then
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there was like, what about you?
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What are you doing? I was like, well, I'm a comedian.
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I was like, okay. And they was like, well, can
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you show us some, like, you know, your salary? I
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was like, well, not really, but I've been paid like this.
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the guy that books Mock the Week's coming to see
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me next week. And if that goes well, then that
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could be really good.
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And she looked at me like I was metal. And
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Lou was just like, shut up. That's all I had.
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well what i thought when.
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I so as you were saying in the beginning josh
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i've got the giant briefcase i did think i could
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go to the meeting at the bank with the giant
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briefcase but just not mention it just use it as
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a normal one to get my papers.
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In oh you're you're um i know that's not what
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you do as much now it's such a funny act
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if anyone is going glass to your suitcase special special
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it's your stand-up set really it's just as funny as
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anything without its big suitcase but it's so good and
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it's so unique so it's a real like it's a
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shame actually that you've become so successful with the cooking
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stuff because we don't get to see that now at.
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The clubs i mean every now and then i'll do
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it and i'll i mean uh glass me this year
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i'll do um my old fanatic because i used to
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end the set by i don't know if you ever
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saw me do this where i'd i'd take my clothes
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off i'll stick a coat hanger through my earring hole
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all my clothes off and hang them on the coat hanger.
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So I was naked. Completely naked.
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Yeah, but modestly preserved because the clothes would hang down
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halfway down my thighs. So then when I'd walk off,
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you'd see my.
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bum but that's it.
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Oh that's as much as it got that's a nice
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cheeks cheeks because i always feel like that's that is
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funny that sort of nudity in a performance but then
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when like people like completely get their dick out and
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they go actually it's clowning i'm like no you just
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got your dick out mate like it's all the difference
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between this and a stag do is people have sat down.
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Yeah no totally um and so what's it like now
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going into being a granddad i mean.
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It's so all the cliches are true that it's great
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and Because you can hand them back, you know. I mean,
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it's tiring too. I mean, we see him a lot.
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So although they're in Barnes and we're in Brighton, we'll
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go up there a lot. My wife goes up once
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a week, stays overnight, looks after him for the day.
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Because my son's at the moment, he's in this... in
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this situation with the whole mortgage thing of trying to just,
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just working flat out and claiming.
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It's impossible.
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I know we're laughing about that 29 grand, but it's just,
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it's so difficult. Like, and like it was, it was
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so hard. Like when me and Lou did it years
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and years, like 10 years ago, but now it's just,
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it almost feels like a lot of young people just
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sort of tapping out and going, I'll just rent then.
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And almost just writing it off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And he's your eldest. Is that right? He's 28.
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He's 28.
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And then I've got a daughter who's 27 and another
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daughter who's 23.
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No, 24. Yeah.
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24.
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Right.
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And do you like hear from them? How much do
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you hear from them? Do you know what I mean?
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I know that sounds like a weird question, but like.
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No, it's not a weird question at all, because I
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know I've got friends who, whose kids have grown up
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and they just like hear from them every month.
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Or whatever like that. And we, we're really close. I mean,
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it's nice. We have, you know, WhatsApp.
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Group that we everyone contributes to pretty much every day
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topics covered at the moment things that they can remember
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happening uh from their childhood for the parenting help podcast
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oh please read some.
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Out yeah just read out a few then george do
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they paint you in a good or bad light george.
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Slightly pedantic light i mean slightly lucky dip at the
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party should i tell you that yeah yeah so when
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they were small I, so we had, we had a
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birthday party for one of them and I found, okay,
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do you find other, I mean, it's a cliche again,
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but other people's kids are like, you know, really irritating,
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aren't they? And really, you know, and fussy and like,
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so my kids weren't very fussy eaters at all. And
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then other kids come around and go, you know, but, um,
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so we were having a birthday party and I thought, okay,
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I'm going to, I'm going to do a lucky dip of,
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we'll have various games and we'll have a lucky dip
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of wrapped up prizes. But what I'll do is I'll
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put in there some like sort of booby prizes.
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If you want to do that, George, you want to
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do that? Oh, I did.
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And so I put in, so there were nice things.
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And then I put in amongst all the wrapped up
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nice little things, a nappy, not a used one, I stress. And,
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you know, a clean nappy wrapped up and a tin
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of cat food. And everything was wrapped up. And so
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they went in with all these presents.
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How old are the kids?
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So they came around and I said, okay, we're going
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to do all these games. And then if you win
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a game, you get to choose a prize.
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I said, here's the thing.
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Not all the prizes are good. And the larger the
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prize doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one.
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It's a good life lesson, George. That's what I thought.
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So I said, you know, some of them, I said,
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you won't even want them. What were the good ones?
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What are you looking at for a good prize here?
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Is it dog food in a pair of pants? Yeah, yeah. Like, well,
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better quality cat food. Purina. Or whatever we've advertised on here.
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Insert now. Yeah, yeah.
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So anyway, so the nice prizes, I don't know, like
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little magic tricks and little colouring books and, you know,
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things that kids would want.
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Anyway, so we did the games. Nail and a hammer
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for the nose, stuff like that, little tricks. Exactly, nail
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and a hammer. Some razor blades.
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But anyway, so yeah, so we played the games. And
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the first two kids who won went for the two
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big things. And I was really stressed. They might not
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be good. And I said, you're not allowed to open
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them until you get home. Anyway, they went home. Parents
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never mentioned it at all.
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So they never mentioned it? No, it's weird, isn't it?
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But your kids and the kids at school were like, oh,
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at their house, I got sent home with a tin
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of cat food.
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Well i know but then it was never i mean
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they never heard it at school or anything you.
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Know that's no one ever mentioned ever again no so
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they just did a good life lesson yeah do you
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like were you quite a life lesson a kind of
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guy were you a kind of guy that i because
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i imagine you was free and easy but were you
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trying to teach.
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Things i was free and easy with my kids i
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think i was just irritated by other kids being brought
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up differently and and being.
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Fussy and being were there children that you wanted to
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when they were picking out you were like I hope
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this little brat gets the oh.
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God yeah oh yeah I'm not saying any names.
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But god there was one boy he was just he
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was so he was just so cocky and I remember
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like school sports like if he didn't win he'd go
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oh the sun was in my eyes oh the wind
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blew the wrong.
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Way and all that kind of things and do you
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know what's happened to him I don't actually did you
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like his parents Yeah, his mum was nice.
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His dad was a bit, his dad looked like a
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kind of very, a very sort of haggard, who's the guy.
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Who was Bond until just, who's just stopped being, Daniel Craig.
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Daniel Craig.
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Like a really sort of weird kind of like slightly
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zombified Daniel Craig.
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I mean, that's not fair. I'm just having a go
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at what he looked like.
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I don't like your kid because you look weathered.
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Like a handsome man who's lost his way.
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So you say your kids weren't fussy. Were they good at...
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Because you're obviously obsessed with food and cooking. And presumably
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you always were. That's not a thing that's come to you.
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So what was feeding your kids like?
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Because.
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My kids are incredibly fussy, but no, my son isn't,
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my daughter is. But I wonder if that is because
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I didn't show her things or whether I was just,
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you know, how much, it's the classic nature of a
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nurture situation.
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What were you cooking your kids? So we were.
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Really mindful of giving the kids whatever we were having
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within reason. So we had this little kind of grinder.
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It looked like something that, I don't know, I've never
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been a guy who's taking any drugs or anything like that.
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But I think that the kind of thing that they
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use for grinding up weed, maybe.
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Oh, here we go. Josh is your man for this.
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Come on. No, no, no. He's our resident drug expert.
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He's a bit of a cane. Is that a thing?
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But it was from mother care. I don't know. It
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was from mother care.
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But it was like a pot with a kind of,
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it was plastic and it had, and you put the
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food in one end and then as you ground it,
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it just sort of roughly mushed it up.
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Like a hand blender. Yeah. Yeah.
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Basically like a little analog blender. So, so whatever we
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were having, we would, We'd just put spaghetti, bolognese, curry, anything.
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We'd put it in, mush it up, and then give
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it to the kids.
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And they'd eat it? Yeah. Especially when they're weaning. It's
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just like mash then, isn't it? Just shoving them out. Exactly.
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All mashed up.
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I tell you what I remember just being fascinated by
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is how kids police themselves as far as food goes.
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And I was always very kind of of the opinion
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that they would eat what they need. They'd know what
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they need. So you'd give them sausages and broccoli one day.
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And one day they'd just eat the sausages and be like, no,
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I'm not interested in the broccoli. And then the next
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day they'd eat the broccoli and be not interested in
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the sausages.
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It's true.
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I see that in my kids sometimes. Like we made
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them that and they literally just done a massive bowl
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of broccoli. And I didn't at once go, make sure
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they just smashed it without saying anything.
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And then left like a load of bread where normally
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it'd be the complete opposite.
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Yeah. So, so similarly with my grandson, when I was
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up there a few days ago and we were giving
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him food and he, and yeah, and he was just,
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he was spitting out the green stuff.
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And he's not at an age where he's going, I
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don't like it.
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And Jem and Lucy, my son and his girlfriend, they're
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not fussy eaters at all. And they give him loads
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of different stuff to eat. But he's just, at that moment.
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Was like, I don't want this now.
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And so you were just like, I'm not going to
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force anything on them. It's just what happens, happens. Yeah,
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because I remember being small and being kind of told,
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you know, you're not getting up from the table until
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you eat that mashed potato. And it going cold and
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just being like, this is horrible. And that really affected me.
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Yeah.
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It affected my feelings towards mashed potato for many years.
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How did you rehabilitate your feelings towards mashed potato?
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Bodger and Badger gets you back in. Hey, he is
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dead now, but he was a Brighton character. Was he?
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Yeah.
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Bodger or Badger? Both, really. They're interconnected, aren't they? Oh,
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it's going to say which one's the badger. Bodger's up badger,
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isn't he? That's badger. Yeah. Bodger, yeah. Bodger's up badger.
485
00:22:14.569 --> 00:22:17.690
Or is badger the bodger? No, bodger's the bloke. Yeah,
486
00:22:17.730 --> 00:22:19.890
badger must be the badger. And what was he like?
487
00:22:20.369 --> 00:22:23.130
I've met him as well. Have you? What's going on?
488
00:22:23.170 --> 00:22:26.039
He came to my uni. To do Bodger and Badger.
489
00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:28.920
Genuinely mad, wasn't it? I mean, absolutely.
490
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:33.619
It felt like if we'd all left the room, he
491
00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:34.549
would have carried on with it.
492
00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:36.980
Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
493
00:22:37.369 --> 00:22:42.029
So towards not long before he died, some friends of mine,
494
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a guy called Tony Harzer, who lives about eight doors down,
495
00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:49.710
and he is... Are you Partridge fans?
496
00:22:49.730 --> 00:22:54.789
Of course you must be. He is the producer... of.
497
00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:58.410
Knowing me knowing you who when partridge shoots the guest
498
00:22:59.410 --> 00:23:02.450
the producer comes on oh wow and he goes you
499
00:23:02.490 --> 00:23:05.930
know yeah you shoot someone and i'm sacked you wanker
500
00:23:06.490 --> 00:23:08.630
yeah that's tony he lives a few doors down so
501
00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:11.299
anyway so he he still does performing occasionally and he
502
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:13.690
was doing this show with another guy called roy hutchins
503
00:23:14.339 --> 00:23:16.480
uh a pub in brighton in the fringe it was
504
00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:19.200
this like really sort of silly artsy little kind of
505
00:23:19.259 --> 00:23:23.690
comedy play thing And, um, anyway, and Andy Cunningham, the
506
00:23:23.710 --> 00:23:27.089
guy who, who, who is, was Bodger was in the
507
00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:32.150
audience and was just completely pissed and heckling. And yeah, just, and,
508
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.660
and it was like, but it was that kind of
509
00:23:34.670 --> 00:23:37.740
thing where it's a friend who, you know, and a
510
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.859
fellow performer who's like, you should know this isn't, this
511
00:23:40.900 --> 00:23:42.980
isn't what you do. But no, I was going to
512
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.859
say about Bodger is he, um, so the various mutual
513
00:23:46.900 --> 00:23:50.029
friends and he, uh, a friend of, ours or one
514
00:23:50.089 --> 00:23:52.690
we knew called Josie, who had a daughter who was
515
00:23:52.710 --> 00:23:56.140
the same age as my kids, had a birthday party
516
00:23:56.220 --> 00:23:59.420
and they got Bodger there to do the birthday party.
517
00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:02.490
And literally he made loads of smashed mashed potato and
518
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.009
and was just chucking it around the house. I mean,
519
00:24:05.049 --> 00:24:08.390
literally on the walls and everything. And they came back going,
520
00:24:08.630 --> 00:24:10.450
it was just, it was like, it was too much.
521
00:24:10.869 --> 00:24:13.609
It was overwhelming and they were a bit disturbed.
522
00:24:14.609 --> 00:24:16.430
I'd love to see, I'd love a video of the
523
00:24:16.490 --> 00:24:19.589
parents from their glee of going, I cannot believe we've
524
00:24:19.609 --> 00:24:20.450
got Bodger and Badger.
525
00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:23.819
That is huge in that era. And then the slow.
526
00:24:23.630 --> 00:24:25.390
Realisation is going on the curtains.
527
00:24:25.819 --> 00:24:31.579
Yeah. And this loose cannon, mad man. He was a
528
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:33.640
lovely bloke, if I remember, but he just loved being
529
00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:34.420
Bodger and Badger.
530
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:34.900
Yeah.
531
00:24:35.299 --> 00:24:37.920
What a great creation that was.
532
00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:41.950
So, George, your kids were teenagers then, or late teenagers,
533
00:24:42.009 --> 00:24:45.109
when you sort of reshifted towards the cooking stuff.
534
00:24:45.769 --> 00:24:47.789
Yeah. Because you did an Edinburgh show. Yeah.
535
00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:49.990
So can you tell us how that sort of started?
536
00:24:50.029 --> 00:24:52.109
Because it's sort of grown into this big thing online
537
00:24:52.130 --> 00:24:53.730
now as well. But it started off with an Edinburgh show,
538
00:24:53.769 --> 00:24:54.029
didn't it?
539
00:24:54.109 --> 00:24:57.630
About food in your hotel room. Is that right? Exactly that. Yeah.
540
00:24:57.730 --> 00:25:01.950
So I, well, it was really interesting as I realized, well,
541
00:25:01.970 --> 00:25:04.039
I realized a while ago, but that, so when the
542
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.839
kids were born for, I would say, yeah, for the
543
00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:11.119
first sort of 15, 17 years of their lives, I
544
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.460
was totally uncreative as a performer. I just had my
545
00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:19.039
big suitcase show. And I didn't write anything new because
546
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.079
it worked and it was earning money. And I think
547
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:27.380
I assume that I was putting my creative energy into,
548
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.900
you know, being a dad, doing up a house, all
549
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:31.539
that kind of thing.
550
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.759
Also, there's risks to creativity, isn't there? Because if you've
551
00:25:34.779 --> 00:25:37.900
been booked to do that set and you smash it, one,
552
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.019
you can relax into that. And also the bookers want that. So,
553
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.319
you know, I risk being not booked again.
554
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:44.220
Yeah, exactly that.
555
00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:47.440
Um and so so yeah it wasn't I didn't really
556
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.400
so 2015 is when I did.
557
00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:52.630
The the first uh the first show.
558
00:25:52.490 --> 00:25:55.549
In Edinburgh so yeah my son would have been 19
559
00:25:55.549 --> 00:25:58.730
my youngest would have been about 13 14 something like
560
00:25:58.769 --> 00:26:02.200
that yeah so so basically what I for a number
561
00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:04.200
of years while I was doing the circuit I had
562
00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:06.759
in a tongue in cheek, mischievous way, done a bit
563
00:26:06.779 --> 00:26:08.829
of cooking in my hotel room for real, like, you know.
564
00:26:08.869 --> 00:26:11.730
Doing a weekend of gigs. So what kind of things
565
00:26:11.769 --> 00:26:12.630
would you have been doing?
566
00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:16.849
So in real life, I mean, nothing too destructive, like,
567
00:26:16.890 --> 00:26:20.480
you know, boiling eggs in a kettle, uh, you know,
568
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:24.019
cooking something on an iron, not out of necessity, but
569
00:26:24.059 --> 00:26:26.849
more out of, fun you know putting like some foil
570
00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:28.809
on the iron you know so it is hygienic and
571
00:26:28.849 --> 00:26:30.930
so on and then and then i did some little
572
00:26:30.970 --> 00:26:33.289
videos and put them on youtube and one of them
573
00:26:33.369 --> 00:26:35.289
got one of them went a bit nuts i mean
574
00:26:35.329 --> 00:26:38.250
for the time so this is this is quite a
575
00:26:38.289 --> 00:26:39.690
while before i even did the first show.
576
00:26:39.509 --> 00:26:41.950
So maybe this was under about 2012 something like.
577
00:26:41.849 --> 00:26:51.390
That wow you're like the sidemen like ksi.
578
00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:49.700
You're gonna end up having one of those uh one
579
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.549
of those influencer boxing matches aren't you josh I don't
580
00:26:53.589 --> 00:26:54.250
know what that is.
581
00:26:54.309 --> 00:26:58.509
What's that? I don't know the idea of it. What happened?
582
00:26:59.049 --> 00:27:01.130
So basically a lot of YouTubers and people that are
583
00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:04.509
successful on TikTok and stuff like that, that earn money
584
00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:07.009
through brand deals, but they can't, they've got a massive following,
585
00:27:07.269 --> 00:27:10.029
but they haven't really got a show to tour around theaters,
586
00:27:10.150 --> 00:27:11.730
but they can sell a ticket because people want to
587
00:27:11.750 --> 00:27:14.470
see them. What they all ended up doing was fighting
588
00:27:14.490 --> 00:27:16.529
each other in boxing events. So now there's a big
589
00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:19.230
company called Misfits Boxing where it's basically all these kind
590
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.819
of people that are fighting random people. So there'll be
591
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.559
like a YouTuber versus someone off Love Island and they
592
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.160
all fight because they've got like a pool to get
593
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:28.920
people in the venue.
594
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:38.940
I don't want to do that. LAUGHTER I'm 52. LAUGHTER
595
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.960
Geoff Innocent's blown up online. Maybe you could take on
596
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.160
Geoff Innocent as.
597
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:48.200
Sort of a veteran. He'd batter me. LAUGHTER Which is
598
00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:48.940
a food thing.
599
00:27:49.259 --> 00:27:50.819
You can't batter an egg though, can you? You can't
600
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:53.000
batter an egg. You can't batter an egg.
601
00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:54.099
You can't. I think you can't.
602
00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:57.720
So my daughter, my youngest one, who's in the food world,
603
00:27:58.230 --> 00:27:59.930
she went to a thing the other day and they
604
00:28:00.009 --> 00:28:04.529
did deep fried eggs, which I think it's on Romesh
605
00:28:04.750 --> 00:28:06.690
Ranganathan's off menu.
606
00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:10.559
Is it? Deep fried eggs, but he's a vegan. I think,
607
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:11.329
I don't know if he.
608
00:28:12.019 --> 00:28:14.220
If this was pre-vegan or if he was talking about something,
609
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:15.910
it might be something that his dad did or something
610
00:28:15.950 --> 00:28:18.210
like that. But what it is, is you, you soft
611
00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:21.700
boil an egg and then you, you pan it, you know,
612
00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:24.230
so you like flour, egg, breadcrumb it.
613
00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:28.170
Egg on egg seems mental, doesn't it? You're putting egg
614
00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:30.930
on egg. That's a bit like when they have chicken
615
00:28:30.990 --> 00:28:32.470
with egg. That always seems a bit weird.
616
00:28:32.490 --> 00:28:32.789
Doesn't it?
617
00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:35.319
Yeah, yeah. Egg on egg's mental. It's like putting breadcrumbs
618
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:35.980
on a sandwich.
619
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.940
Or potato salad on a baked potato.
620
00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:41.960
Yeah, yeah. What are you having in your Jack potato, mash?
621
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.799
don't bring that up with George he's got bad memories.
622
00:28:47.539 --> 00:28:50.819
Sorry well I've got a recipe in my book for
623
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.079
mash and crisps in a sandwich but anyway I'll tell
624
00:28:53.099 --> 00:28:56.230
you about that in a bit but no so so
625
00:28:56.250 --> 00:28:58.569
yeah so you deep fried the egg and then it's
626
00:28:58.609 --> 00:29:00.869
like a crispy coating so it's like a scotch egg
627
00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:04.930
but without the without the meat almost.
628
00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:06.609
So what what in this first edinburgh show what were
629
00:29:06.630 --> 00:29:09.309
you cooking tell me like one of the for people
630
00:29:09.339 --> 00:29:11.259
that didn't see it i i didn't see it but
631
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.279
i remember people talking about it was like you were
632
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.880
using the equipment in a hotel room to do kind
633
00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:19.319
of mad cooking on stage so yeah give me an
634
00:29:19.420 --> 00:29:20.980
example of something that you did.
635
00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:24.289
So i did three courses all my shows have been
636
00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:28.289
basically a three-course meal cooked over an hour with with
637
00:29:28.750 --> 00:29:33.740
unconventional stuff so the So I did a bruschetta with,
638
00:29:34.380 --> 00:29:38.140
so bruschetta which was done with an iron um and
639
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.619
then i made ricotta using the little um the little
640
00:29:41.660 --> 00:29:43.640
pots of uht.
641
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.740
Milk oh my god i hate those little pots well
642
00:29:46.809 --> 00:29:50.049
they're good for you can make ricotta with them yeah
643
00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:53.059
i didn't know that i'll give you that Well, you've
644
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.799
got a chance now. Look, you could. So I used
645
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:57.400
to make ricotta. Josh, you're in a hotel room. Is
646
00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:00.660
there anything you could do now? I have got ingredients
647
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.390
that George asked me to get.
648
00:30:02.809 --> 00:30:05.480
So I made ricotta using a pillowcase to drain it.
649
00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:10.430
Then I poached a sea bass. So I did live
650
00:30:10.869 --> 00:30:14.509
fish filleting on stage in the show. So I filleted
651
00:30:14.549 --> 00:30:16.369
a sea bass, then poached that in the travel kettle.
652
00:30:16.549 --> 00:30:19.829
God, imagine having your room after you. Imagine having that
653
00:30:19.869 --> 00:30:20.809
room after you, George.
654
00:30:21.569 --> 00:30:23.809
But interestingly that was there's one of the jokes i
655
00:30:23.829 --> 00:30:33.369
made in the show and then and then the the
656
00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:35.970
pudding was pancakes done so again i got the irons
657
00:30:35.990 --> 00:30:38.970
i got two irons and i had them inverted between
658
00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:42.480
a kind of sort of zigzag of gideon bibles so
659
00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:46.450
that they were upside down And then, and then toasted
660
00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.059
hazelnuts on the steam holes.
661
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:49.619
Oh my word.
662
00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:50.019
Lovely.
663
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.680
And then it's blown up from there. You've done shows,
664
00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:54.359
you've done books, you've got like.
665
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.240
So your cookbook that is out, is it out now?
666
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.109
It is out on the 5th of June. It's so beautiful.
667
00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:04.730
And it's such a great book. And it's so unlike
668
00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:07.509
other cooking books. And the way you come at it
669
00:31:07.789 --> 00:31:12.019
is the design is glorious because it doesn't look like,
670
00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:16.029
you know, Jamie's dinners or whatever. And it, it feels
671
00:31:16.109 --> 00:31:19.150
anarchic and it feels fun. And it feels like the
672
00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:21.869
recipes are mad. Now you've told me to get.
673
00:31:21.890 --> 00:31:23.589
So you're an artist essentially, aren't you?
674
00:31:23.630 --> 00:31:26.059
Whereas most, you know, cookbooks comes from chefs that are
675
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.720
quite methodical, almost scientists, but you're coming at this from art.
676
00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:32.619
I'm coming at it from, well, I would say maybe
677
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.380
even coming at it from a kind of anarchy because
678
00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:38.369
I mean, like all the shows, so all the, all
679
00:31:38.380 --> 00:31:40.609
the live shows have been about cooking with things that
680
00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:44.380
you wouldn't normally cook with Then obviously, you know, lockdown happened.
681
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.920
I went online and started doing these videos called Snack Hacker,
682
00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:48.970
which is the.
683
00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:51.549
Same kind of... They're so good. Yeah, Snack Hacker's amazing.
684
00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:55.150
They're brilliantly edited. They look great. Thank you. You are the.
685
00:31:55.970 --> 00:31:59.190
I mean, for a man who doesn't know who KSI is,
686
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.380
you're absolutely fucking nailing social media.
687
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:02.559
Yeah.
688
00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:06.849
I've got wheat crunchies and primula. You've given me wheat
689
00:32:06.869 --> 00:32:08.319
crunchies and primula.
690
00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:13.019
We were having a little back and forth over the
691
00:32:13.059 --> 00:32:16.140
internet discussing what you could do because we were trying
692
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.279
to work out, well, so many of the things need
693
00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:20.539
a microwave or something hot.
694
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.390
But one of the videos I did, which isn't a
695
00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:26.690
recipe that's in the book, but it was good fun
696
00:32:26.730 --> 00:32:29.769
and it went down very well. It was basically piping
697
00:32:30.130 --> 00:32:34.519
primula into the Into the void in the middle of
698
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.440
a wheat crunchy. So you need to kind of go
699
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.279
from one end and then turn it around and do
700
00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:41.079
the other end. A bit like filling up a brandy.
701
00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:43.480
You've done that in a hotel room before, haven't you, Josh?
702
00:32:44.019 --> 00:32:45.539
Fill it up from one end and go around the other.
703
00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:48.369
Too much.
704
00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:51.720
I don't hate it, Rob. I don't hate it. I
705
00:32:51.769 --> 00:32:53.390
like it. Paint you in a bit of a stud. Oh,
706
00:32:53.410 --> 00:32:55.170
look at that. Look at that. So it's a bit
707
00:32:55.210 --> 00:32:56.309
like making a.
708
00:32:56.390 --> 00:32:59.450
Josh looks like he's having a breakdown.
709
00:32:59.650 --> 00:33:03.180
Do you remember cheese? Do you remember cheese moments? Yeah,
710
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.440
I did like a cheese moment. Yeah, well, it's basically
711
00:33:06.029 --> 00:33:07.309
you're making your own cheese moment.
712
00:33:07.329 --> 00:33:08.049
Okay, here we go.
713
00:33:08.089 --> 00:33:11.470
So this is, I'm going to say to people that piping,
714
00:33:11.769 --> 00:33:13.990
shoving Premier in a wee crunchy doesn't sum up the
715
00:33:14.029 --> 00:33:14.930
book in the best way.
716
00:33:14.950 --> 00:33:15.569
No, I know.
717
00:33:15.609 --> 00:33:18.650
I was actually worried that people might think that's all
718
00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:18.970
it is.
719
00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:22.579
They're a bit more advanced. That would be fucking brilliant, George.
720
00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:27.480
What's fun? That is so nice. But also, it's an activity. Yeah,
721
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:29.079
it's a kill time between gigs.
722
00:33:29.869 --> 00:33:31.890
Yeah, but if you were to do this in public,
723
00:33:31.970 --> 00:33:33.869
if you were to sit on a bench in public
724
00:33:34.349 --> 00:33:37.589
and be pushing Primula into a wheat crunchy.
725
00:33:37.609 --> 00:33:40.609
George has been hammering nails in his nose in public
726
00:33:40.650 --> 00:33:40.950
since 16.
727
00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:43.990
I don't think your mind's popping a wheat crunchy. Actually,
728
00:33:44.009 --> 00:33:44.750
that's sad.
729
00:33:45.009 --> 00:33:47.930
That's sad about doing things in public. Me and Jem,
730
00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:48.369
my son.
731
00:33:48.470 --> 00:33:50.049
Oh, my God. That is so good.
732
00:33:51.470 --> 00:33:54.490
Don't have too many because it's making me you're enjoying
733
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.720
it it's making me feel sick and i'm joking so.
734
00:33:58.740 --> 00:34:00.960
What i did when i started doing the videos i
735
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.119
i got in touch it was during lockdown obviously and
736
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:03.539
so you can.
737
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.680
See it done properly if you type in snack hacker
738
00:34:06.099 --> 00:34:08.929
and primula wheat crunchies we'll find that one and then
739
00:34:08.969 --> 00:34:10.489
also with the apple pie one yeah apple.
740
00:34:10.429 --> 00:34:12.429
Pie one all these videos yeah they're all on my
741
00:34:12.469 --> 00:34:15.920
instagram at george egg and And YouTube as well if
742
00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:18.320
you want to see them widescreen, which looks better always,
743
00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:19.400
but they just haven't got the same traction.
744
00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:21.380
Stop eating wheat crunchies. You're supposed to be on dessert.
745
00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:22.219
I can't resist.
746
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.880
So the apple pie one, what I did is when
747
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.199
I started doing the videos, I reached out to friends
748
00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:33.449
from the circuit and saying, have you got any ideas
749
00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:35.610
of the things that you used to do? One of
750
00:34:35.630 --> 00:34:38.139
the people was Matt Lucas. and he he said oh
751
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.440
you know i used to put cream on a mcdonald's
752
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.320
apple pie and so what i'd do is i'd i'd
753
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:43.889
take their idea and go all right let's try and
754
00:34:44.050 --> 00:34:46.530
kind of you know build it further so the idea
755
00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:48.650
with this one was to get kind of that sort
756
00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:51.210
of miso caramel flavor going on which is why you
757
00:34:51.250 --> 00:34:52.750
got the dry roasted peanuts because you want a bit
758
00:34:52.769 --> 00:34:56.610
of salt like salted caramel that so basically just spread
759
00:34:56.630 --> 00:35:00.429
a load of clotted cream on top of the pie.
760
00:35:00.150 --> 00:35:06.150
Yeah how much is allowed Well, I mean, don't go crazy, but.
761
00:35:06.309 --> 00:35:10.650
Yeah. You've got a gig later. Where are you, Josh,
762
00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:15.150
by the way? What hotel are you in? I'm in Lincoln. Yeah.
763
00:35:15.409 --> 00:35:18.739
In a hotel that is called the Lincoln Hotel.
764
00:35:19.550 --> 00:35:21.480
It looks it's.
765
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.400
Interesting because it looks like a hotel but then out
766
00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:25.780
of the window you've got a bit of like garden
767
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.000
fence that you've got.
768
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.679
A little garden thing that i'm but it's i don't
769
00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:31.420
want to go in it because it's shared with like
770
00:35:31.539 --> 00:35:33.760
three other rooms so i'm like you know it's a
771
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.780
bit like rehab Yeah, it does look.
772
00:35:36.019 --> 00:35:37.699
So there we go. There's a lot of cream on there. Oh,
773
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.409
there's a lot of cream. That's all right. I mean,
774
00:35:39.449 --> 00:35:41.909
I wouldn't complain. We're judging you slightly, but if you
775
00:35:41.949 --> 00:35:43.869
want that much cream, go for it. No, I'm taking
776
00:35:43.889 --> 00:35:44.929
it off. I'm taking it off.
777
00:35:44.989 --> 00:35:45.150
Okay.
778
00:35:45.349 --> 00:35:49.070
Right. Okay. So then a trickle of date syrup. So
779
00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.730
that's really... It's lovely. It's kind of sort of fruity.
780
00:35:52.150 --> 00:35:53.650
It goes with the apple. What's good about this is
781
00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:55.469
you don't need cutlery either. So if you are out
782
00:35:55.489 --> 00:35:57.269
and about, you can just get the apple pie and
783
00:35:57.309 --> 00:35:59.389
put it all on. Yeah. You know, you don't have
784
00:35:59.409 --> 00:36:00.849
to have a plate. You can eat it like a
785
00:36:00.869 --> 00:36:02.449
hot dog. You don't even have to use your hands.
786
00:36:02.489 --> 00:36:05.440
You can just... Trickle of date syrup. Okay. And then
787
00:36:05.539 --> 00:36:09.260
sprinkle it with dry roasted peanuts. Fucking hell.
788
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:10.780
And then you get the salt and you get that
789
00:36:10.820 --> 00:36:13.539
kind of like malmighty savoriness with the sugar.
790
00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:16.090
Good luck trying to log that on my fitness pal later.
791
00:36:16.829 --> 00:36:18.230
There we go. Let's have a look. Do you want
792
00:36:18.250 --> 00:36:20.570
to see it? Yes, please. Yeah. Oh, let me take
793
00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:22.750
a photo of that. He looks great, Josh. Really great.
794
00:36:22.769 --> 00:36:24.110
Stay still, Josh. I'm going to get a photo of
795
00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:27.760
that as well. Hold on a minute. Wow. There you go, Josh. Right. Okay.
796
00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.980
Taste test. Yeah. Big mouthful. Do you know, can I
797
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.280
just say, I'm sure you've been on Sunday brunch, haven't you, George?
798
00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:36.619
When they brief you, they say, look, it's a bit
799
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.179
of fun to say that you don't like it, but
800
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.139
please don't. Please say that you like the food. I
801
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.699
know you're a comedian, but before, can I just say,
802
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.969
a joke's a joke, okay? So do say you like
803
00:36:48.989 --> 00:36:49.429
the food.
804
00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:52.610
Right. Well, when I go on Sunday brunch, I'll be
805
00:36:52.630 --> 00:36:54.329
on the other side of it. I'll be doing the cooking,
806
00:36:54.349 --> 00:36:56.130
you see. I know, and you'll be thinking, I hope
807
00:36:56.150 --> 00:36:56.969
they've had the briefing.
808
00:36:57.230 --> 00:37:02.150
I know. Oh, good bite there, Josh. Oh, my fucking God.
809
00:37:02.730 --> 00:37:03.070
Is it good?
810
00:37:03.110 --> 00:37:05.329
Is it too hot? Hot? No.
811
00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:08.929
Yeah, lose your small parts. Josh is eating an apple
812
00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:12.469
pie with George Egg. Yeah.
813
00:37:12.510 --> 00:37:15.610
That sounds like a recipe in itself.
814
00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:17.429
Oh, that is so nice. If you didn't know that
815
00:37:17.449 --> 00:37:21.179
George Egg's a person. I'm having another bite. George Egg.
816
00:37:21.190 --> 00:37:23.070
He's having an apple pie with George Egg. What's George Egg?
817
00:37:23.090 --> 00:37:27.090
Where can I get it? George Egg is a specific
818
00:37:27.130 --> 00:37:30.110
chicken that... That looked great. I'm jealous. It's so nice.
819
00:37:30.289 --> 00:37:33.329
It's brilliant. It's tasty, isn't it? That is so good.
820
00:37:33.670 --> 00:37:36.250
And so that's, I mean, that's kind of what's in
821
00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:39.469
the book is, I mean, there's all sorts of recipes,
822
00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:40.289
but a lot of them.
823
00:37:40.349 --> 00:37:43.360
Just give us some headline recipes, just a description of them, like,
824
00:37:43.590 --> 00:37:44.469
so they'll sound mad.
825
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:45.340
All right.
826
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.199
Let's just go random. I've got the book here. We've
827
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.500
got naan pizza.
828
00:37:51.460 --> 00:37:53.280
Naan pizza. Naan pizza. That sounds great.
829
00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:55.340
You get a big circular naan, put your ingredients on,
830
00:37:55.420 --> 00:37:58.880
chuck it in the oven, wallop. That's your pizza. Microwave
831
00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:03.809
cup shakshuka. You make a little one-portion version of shakshuka
832
00:38:04.150 --> 00:38:07.429
in a cup in the microwave. Instant little meal for one.
833
00:38:07.889 --> 00:38:09.829
Right. Can you just quickly run me through that quickly?
834
00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:12.329
What are we doing? Egg in the bottom? Salt, pepper?
835
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:13.389
A couple of peppers?
836
00:38:13.429 --> 00:38:14.949
I shouldn't do this, but I'm having one more bite.
837
00:38:14.969 --> 00:38:20.460
A bit of tomato. That was a massive bite. Tomato, cumin, paprika,
838
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.539
a little bit of sugar, chili flakes. Then you heat
839
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.110
that up in the microwave. little bit of the like tomato,
840
00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:28.309
you know, tin tomato. Then you crack an egg in,
841
00:38:28.750 --> 00:38:30.449
put something on top, put it back in the microwave
842
00:38:30.489 --> 00:38:32.619
just for about 30 seconds. It cooks the egg just enough.
843
00:38:33.130 --> 00:38:34.570
Bit of feta, bit of mint at the end.
844
00:38:35.030 --> 00:38:39.329
Heaven. So good. So how were your kids, right, as teenagers?
845
00:38:39.630 --> 00:38:41.750
You started off as being the crazy dad putting cat
846
00:38:41.789 --> 00:38:43.550
food in the Lucky Dip.
847
00:38:43.590 --> 00:38:43.789
Yeah.
848
00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:46.030
Then you're going around the country with your big, massive
849
00:38:46.550 --> 00:38:49.489
head of that thing. You're going around the country with
850
00:38:49.510 --> 00:38:52.429
this massive suitcase, doing all your jokes. Creatively, you're a
851
00:38:52.429 --> 00:38:54.250
little bit held back. Then you're all of a sudden
852
00:38:54.269 --> 00:38:56.309
cooking pancakes on an iron.
853
00:38:56.449 --> 00:38:59.030
Yeah. When your kids are at school, they go, what
854
00:38:59.050 --> 00:39:02.150
does your dad do? What did they say? Do you know,
855
00:39:02.409 --> 00:39:05.150
I think that they... I think when I was... They said, Rob,
856
00:39:05.170 --> 00:39:07.179
we live in Brighton. It's totally normal.
857
00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:12.340
Yeah, at least he's not Bodger, they said.
858
00:39:13.059 --> 00:39:15.059
As all kids are, they were embarrassed.
859
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.320
But then, I mean, I was embarrassed by my dad
860
00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:19.480
and he was an accountant and my mum was a
861
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:22.289
maths teacher and I was embarrassed about that because it's like, oh,
862
00:39:22.309 --> 00:39:24.110
your mum's a teacher, oh, you must be posh and
863
00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:25.030
all that kind of thing.
864
00:39:25.630 --> 00:39:27.250
How did they feel about you doing this thing?
865
00:39:27.269 --> 00:39:30.119
Because if they're a accountant and a maths teacher, their
866
00:39:30.179 --> 00:39:33.480
son's got a kid at 23 and he's doing comedy,
867
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:34.920
was there pressure from them?
868
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.929
Or were they just trust you and let you get
869
00:39:36.949 --> 00:39:41.650
on with it? They were totally into it. They were great. Really? Yeah, yeah. Amazing.
870
00:39:41.869 --> 00:39:43.510
They were, yeah, they were fab.
871
00:39:43.730 --> 00:39:47.090
Were they partly going, oh, he's done what I wanted
872
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:47.409
to do?
873
00:39:48.130 --> 00:39:49.590
I think with my dad, yeah.
874
00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:53.110
So my dad, when he was younger, I think he
875
00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:55.389
really wanted to be an actor and a writer and
876
00:39:55.530 --> 00:39:58.030
all that sort of thing. And then he ended up–
877
00:39:58.309 --> 00:40:01.739
I mean, you know, guys, the book is– sorry to
878
00:40:01.780 --> 00:40:02.619
keep coming back to it.
879
00:40:02.699 --> 00:40:04.199
But the book is basically.
880
00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:09.400
About fathers and sons because it's all about my dad's–
881
00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:11.500
my relationship with my dad and he did all the
882
00:40:11.539 --> 00:40:16.110
cooking and how I realised when writing the book that–
883
00:40:16.510 --> 00:40:20.690
so much of, so basically what happened is he, he died.
884
00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:21.369
Okay.
885
00:40:21.630 --> 00:40:24.369
Just when I started, I started doing the videos and
886
00:40:24.789 --> 00:40:27.329
in lockdown, my dad died and I started clearing out
887
00:40:27.369 --> 00:40:29.050
the house and I was making the videos and clearing
888
00:40:29.090 --> 00:40:31.900
out the house at the same time with my son.
889
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.119
And we were filming the.
890
00:40:33.099 --> 00:40:36.500
Videos and then it all took off and I got
891
00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:38.460
the book deal. And then when I started writing the book,
892
00:40:39.139 --> 00:40:41.980
I realized how much of what I was finding in
893
00:40:42.019 --> 00:40:45.679
the house from memories of growing up had triggered all
894
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.800
these ideas. And so the book is basically... It's these
895
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.670
bits of memoir about my dad cooking and about growing up.
896
00:40:53.179 --> 00:40:55.369
And so, yes, it's about fathers and sons.
897
00:40:55.769 --> 00:40:58.750
Oh, that's beautiful. That is... Do you know what? It
898
00:40:58.789 --> 00:41:01.650
is better than a normal cookery book, this, George. There's
899
00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:04.710
a depth to it. There's an excitement to it. I
900
00:41:04.769 --> 00:41:05.170
hope so.
901
00:41:05.309 --> 00:41:06.909
Well, you know, I don't know if you've spotted, but
902
00:41:06.949 --> 00:41:09.219
the book is laid out like a show. So I
903
00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:11.780
wanted it to be... Like an Edinburgh show?
904
00:41:11.820 --> 00:41:15.010
Yeah. So it's got... So it starts with act, you've
905
00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.849
got act one. You've even got an interval. No, it's brilliant.
906
00:41:17.869 --> 00:41:20.699
Because you can tell it's a real passion project. It's sometimes,
907
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.539
you know, a lot of cooks and chefs get a
908
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:23.639
book deal and it's like, all right, bang out a
909
00:41:23.659 --> 00:41:25.340
few recipes, crack on with what you're doing. But this,
910
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.860
it really feels like your heart and soul. And, you know,
911
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.199
it's amazing that you... Because I find that's the thing.
912
00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:33.300
When you become a parent, you reflect on your own
913
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:34.559
childhood massively.
914
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:35.679
Oh, so much.
915
00:41:35.940 --> 00:41:37.840
Because as your kids grow up, you reflect on what
916
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.500
was I doing at that age with my dad and
917
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.880
how was my dad dealing with this situation with me
918
00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:43.340
now that my son's going through it.
919
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.530
And, you know, it sounds like you're a granddad now. Yeah.
920
00:41:46.570 --> 00:41:49.510
And you've got a very close relationship with your adult kids.
921
00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:52.130
Is there anything for people listening where you go, the
922
00:41:52.170 --> 00:41:53.889
thing that you think you've done really well or maybe
923
00:41:53.909 --> 00:41:56.139
the thing that you think you could have done better, but...
924
00:41:57.539 --> 00:41:59.449
how have you managed to keep this unit together and
925
00:41:59.489 --> 00:42:02.710
everyone still be close and enjoy each other's company when
926
00:42:02.769 --> 00:42:04.929
sometimes that's not always the case with a family?
927
00:42:06.489 --> 00:42:06.829
I don't know.
928
00:42:06.909 --> 00:42:09.829
I've always just been really mindful of treating them, treating
929
00:42:09.849 --> 00:42:12.579
them like adults, talking to them no differently to how
930
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.219
I talk to, to, you.
931
00:42:14.179 --> 00:42:17.179
Know, adult friends. So I don't know if that has
932
00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:20.659
a bearing. I mean, you know, we've been through tough
933
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:21.239
things as well.
934
00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:23.500
I feel like I sort of painting a picture of like, Oh,
935
00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:27.219
is this, this, idyllic kind of you know upbringing oh
936
00:42:27.260 --> 00:42:29.340
perfect parenting and everything like that which not at all
937
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.360
you know has been massive tantrums and huge kind of
938
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.019
you know all sorts of anxious times and everything else
939
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.570
but I think yeah I mean I don't know just
940
00:42:38.750 --> 00:42:40.889
all I've done is just yeah treated them treated them
941
00:42:40.929 --> 00:42:42.110
like I'd treat anyone else.
942
00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:45.090
Really we were talking about the work-life balance that recently
943
00:42:45.130 --> 00:42:47.110
on the podcast about how sometimes like if you really
944
00:42:47.130 --> 00:42:49.130
want to push on with your career you will have
945
00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:51.809
to sacrifice that sort of time at home do you
946
00:42:51.869 --> 00:42:54.469
feel like you sort of put the career in neutral
947
00:42:55.260 --> 00:42:58.000
And and focused on the kids when you were sort
948
00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:01.039
of just going out and doing good shows, but creatively not.
949
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:01.840
Really expressing yourself.
950
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:03.820
Do you feel like that was a conscious decision to
951
00:43:03.860 --> 00:43:06.360
stick it in neutral, get the money in? And then
952
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.659
as they got older and it was easier at home,
953
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:10.400
you could push forward again.
954
00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:13.320
That's exactly that's completely true. The only thing I would
955
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.260
say is that it was subconscious. So I was never
956
00:43:16.409 --> 00:43:18.630
I never sort of thought. I'm not going to get on.
957
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:19.710
I'm not going to do anything.
958
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:22.010
I just didn't have an urge to be creative with
959
00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:24.289
my performing. Yeah. Exactly.
960
00:43:24.329 --> 00:43:26.150
For what you were saying earlier, you know, the reason
961
00:43:26.190 --> 00:43:28.730
being that it was earning money and I didn't want
962
00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:31.349
to rock the boat and suddenly do something where, you know,
963
00:43:31.789 --> 00:43:34.050
somewhere would go, Oh, we're not booking you. Cause you're
964
00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:37.150
not doing the jokes that we're familiar with or whatever.
965
00:43:37.690 --> 00:43:39.860
And it wasn't, I mean, it was, it was after,
966
00:43:39.889 --> 00:43:41.880
it was probably five, six years after I'd.
967
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:43.199
Done the first show. And I was like, you know,
968
00:43:43.539 --> 00:43:44.320
you know, coming up with the.
969
00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:47.639
Third one that I then looked back and went, oh,
970
00:43:47.659 --> 00:43:51.000
that's when I started getting creative again, was when the
971
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.360
necessity to be creative as a parent or, you know,
972
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:58.269
that they didn't need me in the same way that
973
00:43:58.309 --> 00:44:00.409
they needed me up to they were kind of, you know,
974
00:44:00.630 --> 00:44:02.030
to their sort of mid-teens.
975
00:44:02.449 --> 00:44:04.969
Yeah. So it was totally subconscious.
976
00:44:05.210 --> 00:44:07.429
Did you feel frustrated at any point? Because you're always
977
00:44:07.469 --> 00:44:10.750
super talented, obviously it's so clear, but there was definitely
978
00:44:10.769 --> 00:44:14.230
a point where like, your peers would have been going
979
00:44:14.269 --> 00:44:16.750
on to live at the Apollo, doing national tours and
980
00:44:16.769 --> 00:44:19.769
stuff like that, where your sort of notoriety wasn't as
981
00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:21.750
big as it could have been because you were sort
982
00:44:21.789 --> 00:44:23.469
of in that thing. Was there any frustration on that
983
00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:25.380
or was you quite sort of like chilled with, well, no,
984
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.699
I'm happy that I've got this circuit that I do
985
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.590
and I can see the family?
986
00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:31.380
Or was it fine? I don't know.
987
00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:34.050
Yeah, I think I just didn't have a hunger for it.
988
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.679
So I didn't, yeah, so there was no sort of
989
00:44:36.699 --> 00:44:39.550
like I should be doing that. I think if I were,
990
00:44:39.650 --> 00:44:41.829
were I being creative and going, I'm coming up with
991
00:44:41.849 --> 00:44:43.929
all these new ideas and then nothing was.
992
00:44:43.889 --> 00:44:47.130
Happening, then I'd be, that would drive me nuts. Yeah,
993
00:44:47.170 --> 00:44:47.469
of course.
994
00:44:47.510 --> 00:44:50.389
And I mean, even, even now, you know, that I've actually,
995
00:44:50.409 --> 00:44:52.630
you know, that I'm doing stuff and like, like doing
996
00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:54.869
the book, you know, obviously I'll, I'm looking at social
997
00:44:54.889 --> 00:44:56.289
media going, well, how come they've got that?
998
00:44:56.550 --> 00:44:58.130
How come I'm on there on there? You know? And
999
00:44:59.909 --> 00:45:00.309
it's nuts.
1000
00:45:00.369 --> 00:45:04.230
And then I'd stand back and go. You're on parenting hell.
1001
00:45:04.250 --> 00:45:07.369
Do you have that now with other chefs? Do you
1002
00:45:07.409 --> 00:45:10.369
think about other chefs now how comedians would think about comedians?
1003
00:45:10.389 --> 00:45:14.869
Yeah. Yeah, immediately. I so do.
1004
00:45:14.909 --> 00:45:17.510
Who's the guy, and he's really good, and I follow
1005
00:45:17.530 --> 00:45:20.179
him on Instagram, and he's got the sandwich shop in
1006
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:21.070
Finsbury Park.
1007
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.639
Oh, luncheon or something. Yeah. And he is Max someone,
1008
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.039
isn't it? Yeah, Max. And that feels like he's in
1009
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:28.679
a similar kind of area to you.
1010
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.880
So when we were pitching the idea for the book,
1011
00:45:33.099 --> 00:45:37.380
every meeting that we had, they would get out the fucking...
1012
00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:39.250
max sandwich book and go.
1013
00:45:39.070 --> 00:45:43.170
Can you do it like this and it's like you
1014
00:45:43.190 --> 00:45:44.389
know what i mean but it's just like but it's
1015
00:45:44.409 --> 00:45:46.199
like i mean it's exactly the same as you know
1016
00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:49.360
with it's.
1017
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.619
Just like can we can we get the same thing
1018
00:45:50.659 --> 00:45:53.179
but just slightly different rather than what have you got
1019
00:45:53.219 --> 00:45:56.320
that's new you know we've we've got the same publisher
1020
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.800
you know and and they've been they've been fantastic so
1021
00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:01.929
when we when we first pitched the book and we
1022
00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:04.030
pitched it to you know lots of other publishers and
1023
00:46:04.070 --> 00:46:09.530
lots of more food-centric publishers or cookery book-centric publishers. And
1024
00:46:09.750 --> 00:46:11.409
they weren't into it because I think it was maybe
1025
00:46:11.469 --> 00:46:12.769
too left field.
1026
00:46:12.570 --> 00:46:14.070
Or whatever and unconventional.
1027
00:46:14.610 --> 00:46:17.389
And then Blink said, yeah, we'll give you a book deal.
1028
00:46:18.090 --> 00:46:20.900
But the initial idea was much more simple and it
1029
00:46:20.949 --> 00:46:25.079
was just going to be literally the videos that I've
1030
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.480
done online translated into a book. And then as I
1031
00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:30.400
started writing it, like I say, when I started writing
1032
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.199
about being brought up by dad who did all the
1033
00:46:33.219 --> 00:46:35.719
cooking and all that kind of, uh sort of you
1034
00:46:35.739 --> 00:46:38.239
know more emotive stuff and then i i said to
1035
00:46:38.260 --> 00:46:40.139
the the editor like you know i want to write
1036
00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:43.010
about this now and they've just been they were just
1037
00:46:43.070 --> 00:46:45.289
great and they just said yep fine and they gave
1038
00:46:45.329 --> 00:46:47.309
me such free reign and there's no way i think
1039
00:46:47.389 --> 00:46:49.829
had i had i got a deal with a a
1040
00:46:50.449 --> 00:46:54.250
bigger cookbook publisher yeah that i would have got the
1041
00:46:54.269 --> 00:46:56.230
book that that i've made.
1042
00:46:56.289 --> 00:46:59.050
And and you Have they at any point said, this
1043
00:46:59.110 --> 00:47:02.199
is better than Max's book? Is it better than my book?
1044
00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:04.519
Have their publisher said, we think this is better than
1045
00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:05.360
the sandwich bloke?
1046
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:07.800
Yeah.
1047
00:47:08.019 --> 00:47:13.039
Do you know what the publishers, they think it's absolutely brilliant.
1048
00:47:13.059 --> 00:47:20.429
But do you know what? I think it's, you know,
1049
00:47:20.570 --> 00:47:23.269
it's a beautiful, I mean, I just think it, yeah.
1050
00:47:23.489 --> 00:47:25.570
I mean, yeah, obviously I'm trying to sell it, but
1051
00:47:25.730 --> 00:47:29.610
I do think it's, you know, it is a cookbook
1052
00:47:29.650 --> 00:47:32.639
for people who are into cooking because I get followed
1053
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.099
by on social media, loads of the people who follow
1054
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.820
me have got chef in their title. So although it's
1055
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.320
slightly frivolous, silly kind of, you know, just add this
1056
00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:42.880
to this and see what it tastes like. I am
1057
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.980
thinking about what flavors work, you know, and like with
1058
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.630
the thing that you just tried there, Josh, you know,
1059
00:47:48.250 --> 00:47:51.389
the salt and the kind of savory flavor with the
1060
00:47:51.429 --> 00:47:53.429
sweet and the different textures.
1061
00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:54.329
And it does work.
1062
00:47:54.389 --> 00:47:56.150
And actually you stand back and look at it from
1063
00:47:56.190 --> 00:47:59.510
a kind of culinary chefy perspective and you go i
1064
00:47:59.530 --> 00:48:01.369
can see why that works and that's what i've thought
1065
00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:03.630
about with lots of them and so i'm yeah i'm
1066
00:48:03.670 --> 00:48:06.010
followed by a lot of chefy people but then equally
1067
00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:08.150
i'm followed by loads of people who aren't chefs at
1068
00:48:08.170 --> 00:48:10.219
all which is why i've put on the book you
1069
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.400
know it's a cookbook for it's a book for cooks
1070
00:48:12.539 --> 00:48:15.599
and non-cooks because it really is about just going you
1071
00:48:15.619 --> 00:48:17.559
know cooking can be as simple as adding one thing
1072
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.219
to another or it can be a more complicated recipe And, yeah,
1073
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.119
and so I think, yeah, I think it's something that
1074
00:48:23.139 --> 00:48:24.059
will appeal to everyone.
1075
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.119
Well, good luck with it, George. It's available now or
1076
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.420
nearly now. But, yeah, and follow you on Instagram as
1077
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.639
well because it's amazing. Your videos are incredible. Now, the
1078
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:35.050
question we always finish on, George.
1079
00:48:35.070 --> 00:48:35.210
Yeah.
1080
00:48:35.389 --> 00:48:38.289
And now, you know, obviously your kids are very important
1081
00:48:38.309 --> 00:48:40.429
to you and the cooking and stunts are important to you.
1082
00:48:40.449 --> 00:48:43.369
But the most important person to you, your partner of life.
1083
00:48:44.090 --> 00:48:46.610
How many years any 30 years yeah she was the
1084
00:48:46.690 --> 00:48:48.389
one at home with three kids while you're traveling around
1085
00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:50.389
the country of a massive suitcase fucking about of a
1086
00:48:50.429 --> 00:48:51.769
pancake in a hotel.
1087
00:48:51.469 --> 00:48:53.929
Room yeah so what is it about her.
1088
00:48:53.730 --> 00:48:55.829
That you absolutely love and you think oh my god
1089
00:48:55.909 --> 00:48:58.070
what an amazing parent she is and what is the
1090
00:48:58.090 --> 00:49:00.480
thing that she does where you think actually not sure
1091
00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:03.320
that's a great great idea but you haven't really got
1092
00:49:03.340 --> 00:49:04.900
the balls to say it to her face this is
1093
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:06.340
your opportunity now george.
1094
00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:09.019
God what i what i absolutely love about it is
1095
00:49:09.139 --> 00:49:14.360
she is so tolerant and she is so accepting of
1096
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:19.130
my harebrained ideas and my, you know, she's never won.
1097
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.420
said hey do you think you should get a real
1098
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.119
job at all right and she's just always been yeah
1099
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:32.599
completely completely supportive of everything and Yeah, and just a
1100
00:49:32.619 --> 00:49:34.460
great mother, incredibly patient.
1101
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.500
Well, that's so important because the amount of self-doubt you
1102
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.260
have when you do anything, especially if it is something
1103
00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:41.500
a bit more left field, like what you're doing, to
1104
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.619
have someone that's totally got your back for so long
1105
00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:45.110
is invaluable.
1106
00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:45.860
So that's lovely.
1107
00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:52.710
Okay, so now the problems.
1108
00:49:52.849 --> 00:49:57.090
She buys too many things from charity shops. We've not
1109
00:49:57.130 --> 00:49:59.530
had it before. We've not had it before. What a bitch.
1110
00:49:59.769 --> 00:50:05.389
Giving money to Cherry. Here's the thing. That top looks nicer.
1111
00:50:05.590 --> 00:50:10.429
So she will, this one, this is secondhand.
1112
00:50:10.789 --> 00:50:11.690
Everything's secondhand.
1113
00:50:12.349 --> 00:50:15.150
But no, so what she will do is she will go, oh,
1114
00:50:15.369 --> 00:50:18.190
I want, I want a, you know, a jumper, like whatever.
1115
00:50:18.849 --> 00:50:22.150
And then she'll end up buying. So I would say,
1116
00:50:22.170 --> 00:50:24.630
you know, find the one you want and get it.
1117
00:50:24.820 --> 00:50:28.090
It doesn't matter if it's, expensive you know within reason
1118
00:50:28.170 --> 00:50:29.969
but it's better you find the one you want whereas
1119
00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:32.900
what she will do is she'll she'll buy sort of
1120
00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:36.619
you know six that are all okay-ish and then none
1121
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.079
of them are really good enough and then you've got
1122
00:50:38.139 --> 00:50:40.800
like stuff falling off the shelves and you know.
1123
00:50:41.019 --> 00:50:43.380
So the charity shop purchases that's not a bad one.
1124
00:50:43.389 --> 00:50:45.650
I mean as soon as i get off i'm gonna
1125
00:50:45.690 --> 00:50:48.409
be texting you both going oh and this oh and
1126
00:50:48.449 --> 00:50:48.690
this
1127
00:50:51.889 --> 00:50:54.329
George absolute pleasure good luck with the book it's so
1128
00:50:54.349 --> 00:50:56.489
amazing to see someone who's so talented doing so well
1129
00:50:56.530 --> 00:50:59.170
and really enjoying themselves and especially i think you know
1130
00:50:59.210 --> 00:51:01.050
taking a chance and you've you know in your 40s
1131
00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:02.929
with a totally new direction of a show that has
1132
00:51:03.349 --> 00:51:06.219
turned into an amazing social media sensation and now book
1133
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.820
so well done mate it's brilliant thank you