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Well, well, well.
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The Bears is the Bears.
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Alright, everybody.
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We're here breaking down Packers, Bears.
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Uh, about as classic of a matchup as you can get.
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And this one, this one felt good, man.
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Uh, much, much needed, and you know, lots, lots of good things to talk about, and only maybe one or two points that we like to see cleaned up going into next week.
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But how do you feeling, my man?
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That was a fun one.
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Who was that guy who said that he's gonna make us quit?
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Uh that's a direct quote from Luther Burden, I believe, saying they wanted to beat us so bad that we quit.
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And uh I think the opposite may have happened.
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Yeah, that didn't work out too well.
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No.
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What did Zaire Franklin say to that?
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I believe he said we made them quit, or no, what was it?
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It was he didn't want to play.
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I think that was that was the takeaway that I had.
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What about players that never made a play in this league talking crap and uh uh he he quit himself, he didn't want to play no more?
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Something like that, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, we're here obviously feeling feeling ourselves a little bit, but look, getting getting a beat down at the Bears at home always brings always sparks joy in our lives.
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And like like I said at the top of the show, right?
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This was a much needed victory for us, right?
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Like finally got the offense clicking on all cylinders.
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I mean, Jordan Love was just absolutely dealing today, man.
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367 yards, two touchdowns, was just airing it out, it seemed, every other play.
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So and we got a little bit of a run game going, you know.
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Nothing crazy yardage-wise, but Marshawn Lloyd with two touchdowns, you know.
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Yeah, everything was clicking.
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Yeah, when your quarterback's saying after the game he was in a flow state, you know he was doing well.
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Yeah, and uh it seemed like he couldn't miss virtually.
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I don't remember a bad pass from him.
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There may have been some things that didn't, you know, work out.
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I mean, you know, he wasn't a hundred percent, but for the most part, he put the ball where it needed to be and he made the right decisions.
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So very impressive.
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We got two number one receivers, apparently.
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Oh, yeah.
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Looking like if they can just you know break that drop habit, which they did today, they're special, they can get open, and you get the ball in their hands, they can make things happen after the catch.
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Yep, yeah.
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We got Tucker going a little bit anyway.
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We got Marshawn going a little bit, gave him something to smile about.
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And then on the other side of the ball, look, you hold a team like the Bears who've been lighting it up against everybody to seven points.
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That's a hell of a performance.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know, we can we can flip over to the defense because boy, was there a lot of good happening on the defensive side of the ball this week as well.
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And like we we're we're not delusional, right?
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We we understand that Caleb Williams was not in this game.
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We understand that it's a different game if he's in there.
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Sure.
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Now, a lot of the you know the narratives leading up to this game is you know, the the Bears beat down the Jets with backup quarterback.
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They they won with Case Keenum on on in prime time, right?
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Like they they're winning games with these with these backups, right?
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So it's not like they're just you know pushovers, right?
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And the the Packers defense really stepped up today, I think.
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I mean, turnovers galore, you know, X with two, uh, I mean, Evan Williams had a fumble recovery, like all over the place.
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These guys were were attacking and finding the ball.
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But more than that, they didn't give up, you know, these huge deflating plays.
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Um, I think you know, the Bears had that one sustained drive that ended in a touchdown uh to Swift.
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And other than that, it was pretty much you know, kept kept it in front of them, tackled well, and you know, prevented big plays, which if you can do that, you're gonna win in this league.
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Yeah, it was a great great performance all around, great game plan.
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Once again, we said we think we got something special here with Jonathan Gannon, and he had that one pretty big hiccup with Atlanta, but other than that, he's put us in a position to win every game.
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And this was his best performance overall.
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I think he had the Bears locked down, and possibly you could say they were a little bit confused at times or just like couldn't couldn't find openings where they usually would find them.
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And you also could tell from the first snap that there was uh an intensity that we brought to the game that seemed a little different, and not to say we don't bring it to you know a good degree every game, but but this game the guys were firing off the line.
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I think they really had something to prove.
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I think all the Ben Johnson talk from not just this year but last year, and then that guy saying he wants us to quit.
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I think that really got everybody's attention, and they just were not gonna be denied this game.
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So yeah, uh how can you complain about it giving up seven points?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, and and again, it was it was nice seeing right all different you know uh phases of the defense get involved, right?
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We had we had linebackers making plays, we had the secondary making plays, we had the D-line making plays, right?
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It was it was wasn't just one position group that dominated, it was all across all facets, which was really encouraging to see.
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You know, Devontae Wyatt snuck in two sacks, right?
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You know, we had we had CSA coming off the off the edge for a sack, right?
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Like I I I agree with you, and we we noticed this early on when we were watching, we're like, man, these guys are firing today.
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Which, you know, historically in the in the past, sometimes it's been a little tough for for the pack under the um LaFleur era, is you know, starting off slow and then kind of catching up.
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There was none of that today.
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It was all gas, no breaks from the get-go.
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Yeah, right.
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I mean, they just really came to play.
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They brought their A game across the board and very few penalties, so it was also disciplined.
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This is what we've been asking for, right?
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Disciplined play.
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Don't shoot yourself in the foot, don't beat yourself.
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We got the talent, we got superstar talent in some cases.
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You just can't survive, you know, 12 penalties a game this, you know, all the time.
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And and you know, every other debacle we've had this year.
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Knock it off the field on third down.
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Yeah, all that.
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Now I'm sure a lot of Packer Nation was surprised when they did not see number 70 out there to start the game.
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Yeah.
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He did suit up and they just made the determination.
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It still wasn't fair to him, I guess, to put him out there and expect him to compete when he's just you know, really had this one week of practicing with the ones and you know, it's full practice.
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Glover seemed to hold his own.
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Now, the second half, they really just blew us up on on the run game, other than that one run that Johnson got loose on.
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But they gotta find a way.
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You know, I mean, like it's like you you know you get to the point of uh such inefficiency that you're just you're just begging, like, can we make two yards rather than getting blown up minus three?
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You know, it's like when you got the lead, theoretically, you want to be able to pound the rock, take time off the clock, and we don't have that part figured out yet.
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So something to work on still.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know, I think that that's gonna continue to improve, right?
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Like, I I don't mind the decision to keep Zeitler out.
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Obviously, you know, we're saying this now in hindsight, right?
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After knowing that we didn't get killed um on the on the offensive line this week.
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But you know, he's he's up there in age, right?
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He's a vet.
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Maybe he needs extra extra time to get his body right or just learn our offense, which is historically a little I don't I don't want to say complicated, but it's certainly wordy, some of Matt's play calls, which we've we've heard.
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And you know, getting to the line with about six to seven seconds left, you know those play calls are are pretty long.
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So anyway, maybe he needs some extra time to ramp up, which I'm glad we were able to give him.
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You know, it's it's nice to have a slightly above average line.
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I mean, what a difference it makes compared to you know, that Atlanta game was probably the most the most egregious, right?
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Where it's like, man, even with it, even with a D minus, I think we we have a chance in any game, you know.
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So it's it's nice to see that we're finally at that level.
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Um and you know, we do have to talk about the other kind of kind of dud of this game, which unfortunately is our rookie kicker, Trace Mack.
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He had a bit of a tough one.
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You know, he missed that extra point early on and then went on to go one for three uh in field goals for the rest of the game.
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So tough outing for the rookie.
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You know, I I fully believe that he will bounce back just because I've seen what he's capable of, you know, hitting a 59-yarder in you know, hostile territory for his first NFL kick.
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You know, the kid's got some ice in his veins, right?
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And I think this was just a tough day for him.
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So unfortunate to see.
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Yeah, what can you do?
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You gotta roll with him, but yeah, it's a tough look.
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It's it's it's it's like what do you have to complain about when you beat the Bears 31 to 7?
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It's just you know, when it's when it's going so well, you wish you could look at holistically the whole team and say, All right, everybody did well.
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We'd almost like to give game ball to virtually every every player, but he really he really had a tough look there on on those shanks, and I don't think there was much wind going on there.
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I it it's only gonna get worse with the with the conditions.
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So yeah.
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Oh, I you know, and he'd been doing so well too.
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We you know, it's like we've been singing his praises, and and then he just throws that dud out there.
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So hopefully they go back to the drawing board a little bit on on his technique because everything else was working as far as we could see on the snap, the hole, the blocking.
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So it's really just comes down to whether it's his concentration or his technique or both.
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They gotta get that cleaned up.
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So Cam Acord better uh do some uh overtime work with the rook.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, and then you know, there is you know the other the other unfortunate part is it's looking like we're gonna be without Mr.
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Hargrave for the rest of the year.
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Uh went down late in the game.
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Uh, and you know, I I agree with with what Coach said after the game.
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You know, it was basically meaningless snaps at that point.
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You know, they're down four scores, they're still throwing the ball, they're still calling timeouts, like they still have a chance.
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And I'm just like, man, it's so tough to to lose a guy like that.
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You know, a vet been around for a while, uh, is a key part of our interior defense at this point, and losing him to a potential Achilles, which is what it it sounds like it is, uh, is just kind of a gut punch on what has otherwise been a pretty perfect Bears Packers matchup.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's probably not as integral to what we had planned for this year as a as a Cooper, but still he's pretty darn important, and you feel bad for the guy too, especially I think he's 33 somewhere in there in his age, and and I I just hope this isn't career-ending for him, and he doesn't go out like that.
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But either way, it's it's just yeah, I can see why Matt LaFleur was so deflated when he heard that news, and yeah, and then you know when's the last time we had two guys go down with Achilles injuries in two consecutive weeks.
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Back to back weeks.
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I mean, that's just crushing stuff there, man.
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Yeah, um, and he was playing well too, from what we could see.
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He seemed to be uh getting up field some and disrupting the timing of the quarterback.
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So look, it's not so easy to replace a guy like that.
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Eventually we're gonna get Brinson back, who can be good when uh when he's right, so that'll be something, but yeah, we gotta we gotta figure it out, and you know, on the on the other side, as we all know, we got Micah coming back, yes, sir.
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We got Josh Jacobs probably coming back, so that's some top class talent coming our way and bringing the help.
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So uh trying to look on the bright side of that.
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And I guess now that you put it in context, maybe it's a good thing Mike is taking his time and making sure he's right before coming back.
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Yeah, you know, exactly, right?
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It's like added added to the list of you know starters that we've lost over the course of the last, you know, what is it, 10-11 games, we've lost like eight or nine starters.
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It was there was some crazy stat at the beginning of the year that we've just been decimated from key players going down.
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You know, obviously you hate to see any injury, but like, you know, we're already out our best tackle and our best, probably our best defensive player outside of Micah, and then also Jaden Reed.
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You know, it's like we're losing these key pieces over and over again.
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So it's it's gonna be on goot, I think, to kind of fill in the gaps where you can.
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You know, maybe this is a trade deadline candidate.
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You know, some some team who's not doing so well has an aging D tackle.
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Um, my my hot take that I mentioned to you earlier is look, the Titans are 0-5.
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They got Jeffrey Simmons.
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That guy's a all-pro D-tackle, and he's in his 30s.
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I mean, maybe we give them a call, you know, something to kind of shore up that interior because that has been long-standing a weak a weakness of Packer defenses is interior and like run defense.
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And you know, in order to make a deep run, you gotta be able to stop stop the run, as simple of a statement as that is.
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Yeah, that could be a pretty good call there.
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I don't want to give up a two, but I was thinking about it.
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Maybe a 2028 two I could give up.
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Okay, or a three this year, you know, the next draft.
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It's just when you don't have your first round pick, yeah.
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I I don't think it's smart to give up the second round pick as well.
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We're gonna have a lot of draft picks, it's true, because of the supplemental draft, but you need those top 100 picks.
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So we'll see.
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But um, you know, sometimes they do these in-season picks, and you can't believe the deals that people make.
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So maybe it doesn't cost what we yeah.
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I mean, uh, we can even look at that earlier today, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr., top four pick in the in the draft a couple years ago, gets moved for a second and a sixth in in return for you know not much.
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Um you know, things things happen, right?
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Who was your X Factor today?
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My guy Zaire Franklin, who I think balled out quite a bit.
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You know, he didn't have any flashy turnovers or anything, but he was he was involved nine tackles in a TFL.
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Like, I'll take that.
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And he was he was involved, like he he came flashing in at the end of the key, I believe it was third down, flashed in and stopped the run before he could uh the guy could get going.
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So I'm I'm very happy with with how he played today.
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Um and I'm happy about his leadership too.
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You know, it's it's nice to have that kind of you know, that kind of presence on the defensive side of the ball.
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Yeah, the tough veteran guy's seen it all, and he can calm the guys down a bit, I think.
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Yeah.
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I had LBN.
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I don't think he did anything terribly special, but he played hard and he he got after the quarterback some and and he was I think setting a good edge.
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Yeah, looks like he had two QB hits too, which is good.
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Okay.
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I'm really impressed with our run defense.
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Yeah, they were missing a back.
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Well, we're missing a back too the entire season, so I don't want to hear it.
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Yeah, and they have a really good offensive line that that we we didn't get we didn't allow ourselves to be dominated by.
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Like I said, they had one big sustained drive, they had some success on the ground, but then it wasn't sustained, and we were able to kind of fix fix that uh before it got out of hand.
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So I know we're bouncing around, but let's go back, touch on a couple players.
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So Marshawn, he did what we wanted him to do, right?
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Yes, what did we what have we been saying?
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Hit the hole, make the cut, stop dancing around.
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You can't always beat guys to the to the sideline.
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And from what I saw, he made uh every play that was there to be made.
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When he didn't, I mean, if he got stuffed behind the line, that wasn't his fault, you know.
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Uh so you know, and that touchdown run was was so that was great, you know, so sick.
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And then Pierre Strong, he had a couple plays.
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Glad to have him aboard.
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I thought he was a good contribution, and uh, you know, Johnson.
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I think they sort of semi-benched him because of the fumbling issues, but uh he came on at the end and broke one loose.
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So I was happy about all that.
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And let's say a little bit more about our wide receivers, dude.
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So what are you seeing from those guys that's making them roll like this?
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Look, it's it's so gratifying to see Christian Watson become who we thought he could be when we drafted him, right?
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You know, he yes, we know he has the speed, we know he's a big guy.
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He's finally being able to expand his route tree.
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His hands have gotten substantially better.
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You know, he's he's always gonna be a threat with the ball in his hands, but now he's he's making catches all over the field, double coverage, jump ball, who cares, right?
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So I'm I'm loving that right now.
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And you know, it's it's early, right?
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It's only week five, but this is looking like an all-pro type of season for for number nine, which would be again such incredible validation for us Packers fans who have been Christian Watson truthers since the beginning.
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And then, you know, on the other side, Matthew Golden is like we like I I have been saying on this on the show, you've been saying on this show, this dude's having a breakout season.
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And it really started in the playoff game against the Bears.
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He once he got that that electric touchdown, you know, it seems like everything's kind of clicked into place for him.
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He's snatching balls out of the air, he's got great routes, he's beating his guys deep, you know, uh, and and and cleaning up the drops, right?
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He's had a couple this season that have been a little tough to clean that up today, as far as we could tell.
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So I am thrilled with how these guys are really coming into their own.
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Um still, you know, early in their careers.
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Yeah.
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Well, nice duo there that's coming into their own.
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Golden is just so shifty.
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Like we were saying, he he ought to get open every play, right?
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virtually I mean yeah he's just he's really tough to contain off the line and just electric in that route running so yeah uh very excited about that so other injuries we got St.
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Juice with the hamstring yep skymore with an ankle yeah skymore didn't return after like the second or third quarter I want to say um and Matthew Gold had decided to to return some punts in his place.
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Yeah and he was alright yep but again you know hopefully well yeah exactly hopefully we're not losing these guys long term yeah yeah I mean I I don't think they're long term injuries because we haven't we haven't heard anything about that so yeah um looking ahead a little bit we got the cowboys coming in yep they got beat down pretty good so they lost to 0 and 4 for Tampa Bay at home yep we didn't even know they're gonna want red yeah they're gonna want redemption but we're not gonna give it to them are we no no man and you know this will be prime time this will be sunday night football you know this is again another marquee matchup right at home you know the the big the big talk of the town is going to be does Micah return for this game you know originally I think going into the season this is the game that that we as fans were thinking that he would target and I think the Packers were planning on based on his timeline I would be a little skeptical personally I know the narrative's there I know he wants to get back out there more than anything but we are a historically conservative team when it comes to managing injuries um because we've been burned so many times right and we've already been burned this year with you know ZBB going out um going out early on when he was already kind of banged up in in camp and uh in the preseason so that'll be a big a big you know boost if we are able to get him back but I think watching that Tampa game against the Cowboys you know maybe it's overconfidence or hubris on on my part but I don't know if we need Micah Parsons to win that game.
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No I don't think it's a need.
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I think what will happen is he will practice.
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Yes and then agree there's gonna be sort of that question about you know he is Superman and is he gonna possibly play a few snaps even though it's his first week back and I'm not gonna put it entirely you know out of out outside of his capabilities and my God can you imagine that crowd when he comes onto that field if it was against Dallas what a jolt of energy that would be yeah man like I like I said we've been we've been counting down the days minutes hours seconds until number one steps back on the field for us.
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So like you know I'm I'm all on board if they decide he's he's ready to go you know send him out there man don't don't put him on a pitch count just just let him go let him go get Dak again right like you know okay so you're you're well I I I'm saying like I mean even if we get 10 snaps out of him uh sure it could be pretty cool you know use them judiciously I don't know but look we'll see what happens this week and we'll know more by the time we do our pregame show yep but uh for now let's enjoy this victory if you're hearing this on Sunday night hey it starts now if you're hearing this on Monday it's victory Monday look life is good the pack won we're on a we're on a roll two game win streak let's go pack yeah man and look I'm not uh I'm a superstitious fellow right the pack are two and oh since the birth of my son so let's let's continue that that train going going into into Cowboys week yeah Carter's our good luck charm for sure yeah man all right all right guys we will catch you in the in the next one to break down the cowboys matchup and until then go pack go and enjoy this one take care
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Well, well, well.
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The Bears is the Bears.
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Alright, everybody.
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We're here breaking down Packers, Bears.
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Uh, about as classic of a matchup as you can get.
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And this one, this one felt good, man.
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Uh, much, much needed, and you know, lots, lots of good things to talk about, and only maybe one or two points that we like to see cleaned up going into next week.
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But how do you feeling, my man?
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That was a fun one.
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Who was that guy who said that he's gonna make us quit?
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Uh that's a direct quote from Luther Burden, I believe, saying they wanted to beat us so bad that we quit.
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And uh I think the opposite may have happened.
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Yeah, that didn't work out too well.
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No.
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What did Zaire Franklin say to that?
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I believe he said we made them quit, or no, what was it?
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It was he didn't want to play.
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I think that was that was the takeaway that I had.
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What about players that never made a play in this league talking crap and uh uh he he quit himself, he didn't want to play no more?
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Something like that, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, we're here obviously feeling feeling ourselves a little bit, but look, getting getting a beat down at the Bears at home always brings always sparks joy in our lives.
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And like like I said at the top of the show, right?
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This was a much needed victory for us, right?
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Like finally got the offense clicking on all cylinders.
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I mean, Jordan Love was just absolutely dealing today, man.
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367 yards, two touchdowns, was just airing it out, it seemed, every other play.
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So and we got a little bit of a run game going, you know.
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Nothing crazy yardage-wise, but Marshawn Lloyd with two touchdowns, you know.
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Yeah, everything was clicking.
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Yeah, when your quarterback's saying after the game he was in a flow state, you know he was doing well.
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Yeah, and uh it seemed like he couldn't miss virtually.
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I don't remember a bad pass from him.
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There may have been some things that didn't, you know, work out.
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I mean, you know, he wasn't a hundred percent, but for the most part, he put the ball where it needed to be and he made the right decisions.
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So very impressive.
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We got two number one receivers, apparently.
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Oh, yeah.
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Looking like if they can just you know break that drop habit, which they did today, they're special, they can get open, and you get the ball in their hands, they can make things happen after the catch.
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Yep, yeah.
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We got Tucker going a little bit anyway.
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We got Marshawn going a little bit, gave him something to smile about.
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And then on the other side of the ball, look, you hold a team like the Bears who've been lighting it up against everybody to seven points.
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That's a hell of a performance.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know, we can we can flip over to the defense because boy, was there a lot of good happening on the defensive side of the ball this week as well.
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And like we we're we're not delusional, right?
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We we understand that Caleb Williams was not in this game.
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We understand that it's a different game if he's in there.
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Sure.
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Now, a lot of the you know the narratives leading up to this game is you know, the the Bears beat down the Jets with backup quarterback.
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They they won with Case Keenum on on in prime time, right?
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Like they they're winning games with these with these backups, right?
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So it's not like they're just you know pushovers, right?
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And the the Packers defense really stepped up today, I think.
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I mean, turnovers galore, you know, X with two, uh, I mean, Evan Williams had a fumble recovery, like all over the place.
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These guys were were attacking and finding the ball.
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But more than that, they didn't give up, you know, these huge deflating plays.
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Um, I think you know, the Bears had that one sustained drive that ended in a touchdown uh to Swift.
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And other than that, it was pretty much you know, kept kept it in front of them, tackled well, and you know, prevented big plays, which if you can do that, you're gonna win in this league.
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Yeah, it was a great great performance all around, great game plan.
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Once again, we said we think we got something special here with Jonathan Gannon, and he had that one pretty big hiccup with Atlanta, but other than that, he's put us in a position to win every game.
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And this was his best performance overall.
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I think he had the Bears locked down, and possibly you could say they were a little bit confused at times or just like couldn't couldn't find openings where they usually would find them.
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And you also could tell from the first snap that there was uh an intensity that we brought to the game that seemed a little different, and not to say we don't bring it to you know a good degree every game, but but this game the guys were firing off the line.
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I think they really had something to prove.
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I think all the Ben Johnson talk from not just this year but last year, and then that guy saying he wants us to quit.
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I think that really got everybody's attention, and they just were not gonna be denied this game.
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So yeah, uh how can you complain about it giving up seven points?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, and and again, it was it was nice seeing right all different you know uh phases of the defense get involved, right?
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We had we had linebackers making plays, we had the secondary making plays, we had the D-line making plays, right?
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It was it was wasn't just one position group that dominated, it was all across all facets, which was really encouraging to see.
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You know, Devontae Wyatt snuck in two sacks, right?
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You know, we had we had CSA coming off the off the edge for a sack, right?
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Like I I I agree with you, and we we noticed this early on when we were watching, we're like, man, these guys are firing today.
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Which, you know, historically in the in the past, sometimes it's been a little tough for for the pack under the um LaFleur era, is you know, starting off slow and then kind of catching up.
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There was none of that today.
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It was all gas, no breaks from the get-go.
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Yeah, right.
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I mean, they just really came to play.
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They brought their A game across the board and very few penalties, so it was also disciplined.
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This is what we've been asking for, right?
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Disciplined play.
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Don't shoot yourself in the foot, don't beat yourself.
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We got the talent, we got superstar talent in some cases.
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You just can't survive, you know, 12 penalties a game this, you know, all the time.
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And and you know, every other debacle we've had this year.
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Knock it off the field on third down.
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Yeah, all that.
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Now I'm sure a lot of Packer Nation was surprised when they did not see number 70 out there to start the game.
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Yeah.
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He did suit up and they just made the determination.
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It still wasn't fair to him, I guess, to put him out there and expect him to compete when he's just you know, really had this one week of practicing with the ones and you know, it's full practice.
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Glover seemed to hold his own.
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Now, the second half, they really just blew us up on on the run game, other than that one run that Johnson got loose on.
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But they gotta find a way.
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You know, I mean, like it's like you you know you get to the point of uh such inefficiency that you're just you're just begging, like, can we make two yards rather than getting blown up minus three?
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You know, it's like when you got the lead, theoretically, you want to be able to pound the rock, take time off the clock, and we don't have that part figured out yet.
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So something to work on still.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know, I think that that's gonna continue to improve, right?
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Like, I I don't mind the decision to keep Zeitler out.
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Obviously, you know, we're saying this now in hindsight, right?
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After knowing that we didn't get killed um on the on the offensive line this week.
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But you know, he's he's up there in age, right?
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He's a vet.
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Maybe he needs extra extra time to get his body right or just learn our offense, which is historically a little I don't I don't want to say complicated, but it's certainly wordy, some of Matt's play calls, which we've we've heard.
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And you know, getting to the line with about six to seven seconds left, you know those play calls are are pretty long.
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So anyway, maybe he needs some extra time to ramp up, which I'm glad we were able to give him.
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You know, it's it's nice to have a slightly above average line.
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I mean, what a difference it makes compared to you know, that Atlanta game was probably the most the most egregious, right?
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Where it's like, man, even with it, even with a D minus, I think we we have a chance in any game, you know.
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So it's it's nice to see that we're finally at that level.
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Um and you know, we do have to talk about the other kind of kind of dud of this game, which unfortunately is our rookie kicker, Trace Mack.
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He had a bit of a tough one.
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You know, he missed that extra point early on and then went on to go one for three uh in field goals for the rest of the game.
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So tough outing for the rookie.
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You know, I I fully believe that he will bounce back just because I've seen what he's capable of, you know, hitting a 59-yarder in you know, hostile territory for his first NFL kick.
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You know, the kid's got some ice in his veins, right?
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And I think this was just a tough day for him.
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So unfortunate to see.
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Yeah, what can you do?
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You gotta roll with him, but yeah, it's a tough look.
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It's it's it's it's like what do you have to complain about when you beat the Bears 31 to 7?
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It's just you know, when it's when it's going so well, you wish you could look at holistically the whole team and say, All right, everybody did well.
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We'd almost like to give game ball to virtually every every player, but he really he really had a tough look there on on those shanks, and I don't think there was much wind going on there.
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I it it's only gonna get worse with the with the conditions.
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So yeah.
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Oh, I you know, and he'd been doing so well too.
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We you know, it's like we've been singing his praises, and and then he just throws that dud out there.
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So hopefully they go back to the drawing board a little bit on on his technique because everything else was working as far as we could see on the snap, the hole, the blocking.
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So it's really just comes down to whether it's his concentration or his technique or both.
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They gotta get that cleaned up.
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So Cam Acord better uh do some uh overtime work with the rook.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, and then you know, there is you know the other the other unfortunate part is it's looking like we're gonna be without Mr.
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Hargrave for the rest of the year.
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Uh went down late in the game.
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Uh, and you know, I I agree with with what Coach said after the game.
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You know, it was basically meaningless snaps at that point.
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You know, they're down four scores, they're still throwing the ball, they're still calling timeouts, like they still have a chance.
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And I'm just like, man, it's so tough to to lose a guy like that.
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You know, a vet been around for a while, uh, is a key part of our interior defense at this point, and losing him to a potential Achilles, which is what it it sounds like it is, uh, is just kind of a gut punch on what has otherwise been a pretty perfect Bears Packers matchup.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's probably not as integral to what we had planned for this year as a as a Cooper, but still he's pretty darn important, and you feel bad for the guy too, especially I think he's 33 somewhere in there in his age, and and I I just hope this isn't career-ending for him, and he doesn't go out like that.
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But either way, it's it's just yeah, I can see why Matt LaFleur was so deflated when he heard that news, and yeah, and then you know when's the last time we had two guys go down with Achilles injuries in two consecutive weeks.
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Back to back weeks.
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I mean, that's just crushing stuff there, man.
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Yeah, um, and he was playing well too, from what we could see.
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He seemed to be uh getting up field some and disrupting the timing of the quarterback.
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So look, it's not so easy to replace a guy like that.
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Eventually we're gonna get Brinson back, who can be good when uh when he's right, so that'll be something, but yeah, we gotta we gotta figure it out, and you know, on the on the other side, as we all know, we got Micah coming back, yes, sir.
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We got Josh Jacobs probably coming back, so that's some top class talent coming our way and bringing the help.
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So uh trying to look on the bright side of that.
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And I guess now that you put it in context, maybe it's a good thing Mike is taking his time and making sure he's right before coming back.
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Yeah, you know, exactly, right?
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It's like added added to the list of you know starters that we've lost over the course of the last, you know, what is it, 10-11 games, we've lost like eight or nine starters.
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It was there was some crazy stat at the beginning of the year that we've just been decimated from key players going down.
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You know, obviously you hate to see any injury, but like, you know, we're already out our best tackle and our best, probably our best defensive player outside of Micah, and then also Jaden Reed.
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You know, it's like we're losing these key pieces over and over again.
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So it's it's gonna be on goot, I think, to kind of fill in the gaps where you can.
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You know, maybe this is a trade deadline candidate.
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You know, some some team who's not doing so well has an aging D tackle.
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Um, my my hot take that I mentioned to you earlier is look, the Titans are 0-5.
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They got Jeffrey Simmons.
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That guy's a all-pro D-tackle, and he's in his 30s.
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I mean, maybe we give them a call, you know, something to kind of shore up that interior because that has been long-standing a weak a weakness of Packer defenses is interior and like run defense.
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And you know, in order to make a deep run, you gotta be able to stop stop the run, as simple of a statement as that is.
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Yeah, that could be a pretty good call there.
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I don't want to give up a two, but I was thinking about it.
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Maybe a 2028 two I could give up.
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Okay, or a three this year, you know, the next draft.
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It's just when you don't have your first round pick, yeah.
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I I don't think it's smart to give up the second round pick as well.
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We're gonna have a lot of draft picks, it's true, because of the supplemental draft, but you need those top 100 picks.
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So we'll see.
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But um, you know, sometimes they do these in-season picks, and you can't believe the deals that people make.
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So maybe it doesn't cost what we yeah.
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I mean, uh, we can even look at that earlier today, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr., top four pick in the in the draft a couple years ago, gets moved for a second and a sixth in in return for you know not much.
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Um you know, things things happen, right?
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Who was your X Factor today?
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My guy Zaire Franklin, who I think balled out quite a bit.
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You know, he didn't have any flashy turnovers or anything, but he was he was involved nine tackles in a TFL.
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Like, I'll take that.
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And he was he was involved, like he he came flashing in at the end of the key, I believe it was third down, flashed in and stopped the run before he could uh the guy could get going.
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So I'm I'm very happy with with how he played today.
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Um and I'm happy about his leadership too.
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You know, it's it's nice to have that kind of you know, that kind of presence on the defensive side of the ball.
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Yeah, the tough veteran guy's seen it all, and he can calm the guys down a bit, I think.
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Yeah.
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I had LBN.
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I don't think he did anything terribly special, but he played hard and he he got after the quarterback some and and he was I think setting a good edge.
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Yeah, looks like he had two QB hits too, which is good.
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Okay.
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I'm really impressed with our run defense.
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Yeah, they were missing a back.
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Well, we're missing a back too the entire season, so I don't want to hear it.
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Yeah, and they have a really good offensive line that that we we didn't get we didn't allow ourselves to be dominated by.
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Like I said, they had one big sustained drive, they had some success on the ground, but then it wasn't sustained, and we were able to kind of fix fix that uh before it got out of hand.
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So I know we're bouncing around, but let's go back, touch on a couple players.
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So Marshawn, he did what we wanted him to do, right?
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Yes, what did we what have we been saying?
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Hit the hole, make the cut, stop dancing around.
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You can't always beat guys to the to the sideline.
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And from what I saw, he made uh every play that was there to be made.
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When he didn't, I mean, if he got stuffed behind the line, that wasn't his fault, you know.
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Uh so you know, and that touchdown run was was so that was great, you know, so sick.
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And then Pierre Strong, he had a couple plays.
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Glad to have him aboard.
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I thought he was a good contribution, and uh, you know, Johnson.
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I think they sort of semi-benched him because of the fumbling issues, but uh he came on at the end and broke one loose.
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So I was happy about all that.
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And let's say a little bit more about our wide receivers, dude.
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So what are you seeing from those guys that's making them roll like this?
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Look, it's it's so gratifying to see Christian Watson become who we thought he could be when we drafted him, right?
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You know, he yes, we know he has the speed, we know he's a big guy.
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He's finally being able to expand his route tree.
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His hands have gotten substantially better.
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You know, he's he's always gonna be a threat with the ball in his hands, but now he's he's making catches all over the field, double coverage, jump ball, who cares, right?
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So I'm I'm loving that right now.
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And you know, it's it's early, right?
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It's only week five, but this is looking like an all-pro type of season for for number nine, which would be again such incredible validation for us Packers fans who have been Christian Watson truthers since the beginning.
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And then, you know, on the other side, Matthew Golden is like we like I I have been saying on this on the show, you've been saying on this show, this dude's having a breakout season.
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And it really started in the playoff game against the Bears.
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He once he got that that electric touchdown, you know, it seems like everything's kind of clicked into place for him.
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He's snatching balls out of the air, he's got great routes, he's beating his guys deep, you know, uh, and and and cleaning up the drops, right?
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He's had a couple this season that have been a little tough to clean that up today, as far as we could tell.
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So I am thrilled with how these guys are really coming into their own.
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Um still, you know, early in their careers.
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Yeah.
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Well, nice duo there that's coming into their own.
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Golden is just so shifty.
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Like we were saying, he he ought to get open every play, right?
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virtually I mean yeah he's just he's really tough to contain off the line and just electric in that route running so yeah uh very excited about that so other injuries we got St.
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Juice with the hamstring yep skymore with an ankle yeah skymore didn't return after like the second or third quarter I want to say um and Matthew Gold had decided to to return some punts in his place.
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Yeah and he was alright yep but again you know hopefully well yeah exactly hopefully we're not losing these guys long term yeah yeah I mean I I don't think they're long term injuries because we haven't we haven't heard anything about that so yeah um looking ahead a little bit we got the cowboys coming in yep they got beat down pretty good so they lost to 0 and 4 for Tampa Bay at home yep we didn't even know they're gonna want red yeah they're gonna want redemption but we're not gonna give it to them are we no no man and you know this will be prime time this will be sunday night football you know this is again another marquee matchup right at home you know the the big the big talk of the town is going to be does Micah return for this game you know originally I think going into the season this is the game that that we as fans were thinking that he would target and I think the Packers were planning on based on his timeline I would be a little skeptical personally I know the narrative's there I know he wants to get back out there more than anything but we are a historically conservative team when it comes to managing injuries um because we've been burned so many times right and we've already been burned this year with you know ZBB going out um going out early on when he was already kind of banged up in in camp and uh in the preseason so that'll be a big a big you know boost if we are able to get him back but I think watching that Tampa game against the Cowboys you know maybe it's overconfidence or hubris on on my part but I don't know if we need Micah Parsons to win that game.
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No I don't think it's a need.
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I think what will happen is he will practice.
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Yes and then agree there's gonna be sort of that question about you know he is Superman and is he gonna possibly play a few snaps even though it's his first week back and I'm not gonna put it entirely you know out of out outside of his capabilities and my God can you imagine that crowd when he comes onto that field if it was against Dallas what a jolt of energy that would be yeah man like I like I said we've been we've been counting down the days minutes hours seconds until number one steps back on the field for us.
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So like you know I'm I'm all on board if they decide he's he's ready to go you know send him out there man don't don't put him on a pitch count just just let him go let him go get Dak again right like you know okay so you're you're well I I I'm saying like I mean even if we get 10 snaps out of him uh sure it could be pretty cool you know use them judiciously I don't know but look we'll see what happens this week and we'll know more by the time we do our pregame show yep but uh for now let's enjoy this victory if you're hearing this on Sunday night hey it starts now if you're hearing this on Monday it's victory Monday look life is good the pack won we're on a we're on a roll two game win streak let's go pack yeah man and look I'm not uh I'm a superstitious fellow right the pack are two and oh since the birth of my son so let's let's continue that that train going going into into Cowboys week yeah Carter's our good luck charm for sure yeah man all right all right guys we will catch you in the in the next one to break down the cowboys matchup and until then go pack go and enjoy this one take care
