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Welcome to the Optimizing Beyond podcast. I'm
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Josh Negron, and this show is all about sharing
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lessons, ideas, and strategies that sharpen your
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thinking, strengthen your habits, and push you
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to grow beyond comfort zones. Let's dive in.
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Today, I've got with me a dear friend of mine
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named Trey Frisbee. This guy has been a huge
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part of my fitness, nutrition, and health journey
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for many years now. And I knew I wanted to get
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him on the show because when I think Optimize
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and somebody that's helped me over the years,
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it's been Trey. So, Trey, tell us a little bit
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about yourself. Man, yeah, my name's Trey. Figuring
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out life and want to help as many people as I
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can on the way through it. So, yeah. No, I appreciate
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you saying that about me and you and Ashley both
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have been great mentors to myself and Ailey as
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well. So I appreciate that. Absolutely, man.
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That's how we do it, you know, in community.
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That's why we talk about who's in your circles
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is one of the most important things in life.
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So yeah, absolutely honored to have you as a
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part of my team, in my opinion. Appreciate that.
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Yeah, boy. So Trey, share with us a little bit
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growing up, because I find that typically for
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people who have a lot of discipline or have things
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that transcend, you know, even especially decades
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of their life missions and things that they're
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passionate about, typically there's things that
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go way back that are sources of fuel and inspiration
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for those kinds of things. Can you tell us like
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your top things as to why this is kind of the
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field that you're so passionate about? yeah for
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sure um so i grew up playing sports like very
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early in life um this guy's a natural athlete
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folks like this guy can catch anything from anywhere
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not even looking like it's it's infuriating really
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i gotta keep that under wraps i can't let everybody
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know you know that's right i uh i think the the
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first toy that i had when i was a kid was like
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a ball i think my dad still has it at his house
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today. I found it the other day whenever I was
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up there. So always doing stuff like that. You
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name it, baseball, soccer, basketball, anything,
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anything that I could do to add a ball in it.
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I was all for it. Grew up early playing that.
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I think sports really just kind of set a lot
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of the disciplines that I have now from a young
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age. A lot of great coaches, the kids that I
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was in sports with, like all of them hard workers.
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The town that I grew up in from junior high to
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high school, there was a park within walking
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distance from our house. A bunch of friends live
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close to that. So, I mean, just we didn't know
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it, but we were disciplining ourselves at that
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young age to work on these things. My parents
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were amazing at, hey, yes, you can go do this,
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but you need to make sure we've got homework
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done. Hey, you got to be here to eat. Hey, you
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got to just all the little things that I didn't
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know was installing discipline in me from a young
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age just kind of really is carried over. The
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more that I become more disciplined with myself,
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the more I'm like, man, they really had me doing
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that right when I was younger. Sports, sports,
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sports, sports like crazy led to tons of injuries
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with sports. I have had something called Osgood
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slaughters in my knees. Basically, it's I had
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a growth spurt and my tendons couldn't keep up
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with my bones growing. So my patella tendon was
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ripping off the bone as I got older. tons of
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yeah i know that's not it sounds grosser than
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what it really was but it led to it looked like
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i have a second kneecap on there uh so it's very
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painful at that age it doesn't bother me nearly
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as much now um still some sensitivity and things
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like that which is from me learning how to be
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disciplined and not taking care of myself at
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a young age no the the sports injuries and my
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parents man like it was the It was the golden
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trifecta, really. So from the injury perspective,
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I mean, that's what can stop so many people.
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So how in such a young age did you not just quit?
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I mean, you're like, you know what? I think band
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is cool. Let's just do that. You know, what kept
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you focused on fitness and movement? Absolutely.
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So complete honesty, it never made me want to
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quit sports. I really started to struggle in
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school any time that I was injured. The fun of
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everything is what I was looking forward to.
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And school at the time was like an annoying thing
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that I had to do in order to play sports. So
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if I couldn't play sports, then, like, why should
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I care about school? Like, I don't care about,
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you know, my language arts essay that I have
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to write tomorrow. I want to go to the basketball
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game that we have in two days. So having to deal
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with that, and I think sixth grade was the first
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time that I started to have some knee issues.
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Never really missed any significant time, but
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at any age, like, sports is what I love to do.
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So not being able to do that was just world -crushing
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for me. um my mom worked at school so grades
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started to slip a little bit and she was very
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quick to come on yeah pull yourself out of this
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we got some work to do remember if you don't
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do good in school you don't play sports so it'd
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be a shame for you to let that slip now while
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you're hurt get healthy and then your grades
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are bad and you still can't play sports that
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took me a while to figure out but it got me motivated
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again and it was just up and down with that from
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all the way from sixth grade to graduating high
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school to getting into college and doing those
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really, okay, mom, you're right. I'm on it. Get
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my grades together. Yeah, it never made me want
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to quit the sports itself, but it made the rest
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of life pretty hard, even at a young age. So,
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yeah, if I would have had to figure that out
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by myself, I don't know if I would have finished
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high school, honestly. mom dad friend everyone
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else was kind of what are you doing dummy get
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your stuff together let's go yeah and i mean
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it makes sense you know you're most motivated
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by fitness and so they were they were in a way
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positioning that as like the carrot you know
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like hey we know you how much you love this you
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can do it again but you don't want to sabotage
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it and make it to where you can't you know that's
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that's pretty smart Absolutely. Yeah, they they
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had that figured out, man. I didn't for a long
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time. Well, that's why they're there. Right.
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To kind of help us out with that. No, I absolutely
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love that. So, I mean, you and I have also talked
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in the past about how, you know, we we touched
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on physical challenges and injury and getting
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out of that. And I think that's why when Ashley
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was hurt, you know, you were such a help to her
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in like how she could get back into into some
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quality movement. But talk to us also about,
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you know, life isn't. always ideal. And in the
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episode where I had Eric Dwyer on, we talked
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about for an hour about how to optimize when
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life isn't optimal. You faced some tragedies
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early on. And so emotionally, those were really
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challenging. And so how did you handle not losing
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your priority of health and fitness and movement
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in those darker times? Really, the community
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that was around me kept me going straight. So
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my... freshman year of high school my mom ended
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up passing away from breast cancer one spring
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cancer so ignoring my own injuries and things
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that I have, her passing away really, really
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hit me hard. It was right at the beginning of
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our basketball season. And basketball was like
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the number one sport that I loved to play. She
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liked to come watch my games. My dad was always
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at all the games. So as she got sicker, you know,
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she had to miss games and practices and things
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like that. But she passed away three days before
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my first high school basketball game. That hit
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me like a... ton of bricks but like at her funeral
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visitation everything like that uh the whole
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basketball team came through like I was just
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some freshman high school punk kid you know I
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didn't know anything but coach made it a point
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for the whole team to come through pick me up
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uh make sure I kept my head up kept my head on
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straight we got through everything I think like
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completely honestly I think I went back to school
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too soon I don't think I could time for myself
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to kind of process and create. And I don't, like
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if I take a step back, I didn't know I was there
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for my dad as much as he was there for me. Like
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I was saying, it was three days before that first
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game. So the day before, two days after my mom
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had passed, I'm begging my dad to, I have to
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go to school because if I don't go to school,
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I can't go to this game. Good old Misha, Missouri
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State. high school rules. And he was very much
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so like, yeah, cool. Sounds good. Let's get you
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back in school. Very thankful for that. But that
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led to some more of my mental struggles and issues
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later down the road, just with grieving and trying
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to process that, especially at a young age. The
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team, the coaches, my dad, all my friends, everyone
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just kind of kept me moving the right direction.
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Focus, get through each day. They were there.
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I needed somebody to talk to, process, anything
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like that. Really, they were great. So that's
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why I am a really big person about how you're
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going to be as good as the people you hang out
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with. I want to surround myself with as many
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successful, positive, like -minded individuals
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as I can. The more people that I know that way,
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the more comfortable I feel. In my own skin,
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people that challenge me and push me, I get.
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It's just what I want. So the community and the
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group that you have closest to you. I mean, I
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think that's definitely what kept me moving that
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right direction. No, that makes total sense.
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You talked about the impact of coaches in your
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life. A lot of people in this area, they know
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you as Coach Trey. And so what led to your transformation
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and transition from just a normal athlete to
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the guy who is now that coach for others and
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can be that role model, that influence and that
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guidance? Yeah, yeah. I'm not 100 % sure. I liked
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in my younger age, like now that I'm older and
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can think about it, I liked being someone that
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could step up under pressure. I could help others.
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Every sport that I played was a team sport. So
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I didn't mind being the one to, hey, I'll go
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first. Whatever we're doing, let me lead, let
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me go, stuff like that. So I think that kind
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of transitioned into getting into college. Not
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many high -level college programs are looking
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for a 5 '6 kid that can't jump and dunk. And
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you're only going to go so far in sports that
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way. So realizing that, okay, hey, I'm done with
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my own team sports. I need to find something
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different. That led me to CrossFit. Getting into
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that was great because I felt like I was back
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at sports practice, working real hard, sweating
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in the trenches with a group of people that were
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all trying to accomplish the same goal of finish
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that workout, get healthier, get bitter, all
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of that good stuff. So that was really cool having
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that. In finding CrossFit, the coaches that we
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had there, I was like, man, these guys show up
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every day and they're not training pro athletes.
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They're not like... like coaching i always thought
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is somebody trying to level everyone up in a
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sport to make it as high as you can seeing someone
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coach just your average person to i want you
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to show up every day hey i want you to your goal
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is to lose the 10 pounds like how can i help
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you lose that 10 pounds as quick as possible
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like see them coach them in life in that perspective
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was kind of like that light bulb moment for me
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of oh there's there's more to this than just
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sports itself like this is a full life thing
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so that was that was the first real aha not king
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trey moment trying to figure out life a little
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bit very thankful to grew up in a small town
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college town i went to was a small town i got
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into personal training you need a certification
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to do some personal training uh just at like
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the local community center i didn't know any
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other form of fitness besides crossfit so i was
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like well let's go get my CrossFit level one,
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found out that was $1 ,000 to get. Young 19 -year
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-old Trey did not have $1 ,000 by any means to
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go do something like that. The coach that was
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at the CrossFit gym, also the owner, still a
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really good friend, his name is Alan. He said,
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hey, if you're going to go get this, we'll pay
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for half of it. If you can come up with the other
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half, you'll coach and pay that back. Once you
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pay that back, then I can start paying you for
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it. I was like, yeah, cool. Sounds great. So
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I think I found a course that was within the
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state of Missouri in like two weeks. And basically
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sat down with my dad and was like, hey, can I
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have $500? He goes, excuse me, what? For what?
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So had to kind of run him through. This is what
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I got going on. This is how quick this is coming
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up. Like whatever you need help on the farm,
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whatever I can do, like I'm here for it. My dad
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has installed a ton of great personal traits
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in me. He saw a dream. He could help out. He
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helped out. And I'm still to this day, very thankful
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for that. I think if that would have been drug
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out for another few weeks, few months of me trying
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to crunch pennies and save some money and wait
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on that, I don't know if I would have stuck with
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it. You know, I got a squirrel brain. So I think
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I would have. No, it's going to be this over
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here instead of that. I think I would have just
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kept jumping around trying to figure that out.
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Both of them helped me out, got my level one.
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The first class that I got to get in front of
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and, you know, hey, here's your workout. Here's
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warmup we're going to do. Everybody get together,
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let's warm up. The first class where I really
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got to lead people, I was, oh man, I left that
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day with the biggest smile on my face. I was,
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hey, that felt good. That was fun. I can't remember
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if I was 19 or 20 at that time, but that was
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like pure joy to me. Worked really hard at that.
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And thankfully, Alan was very, very gracious
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at letting me have as many classes as I could
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handle. I think I was coaching like sometimes
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three to four classes a day, three to five times
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a week. It felt like I was trying to be there
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just as much as he was. And he owned the place,
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man. He was there. He was the one that unlocked
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the doors. He was the one that locked the doors
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when we left. I was trying to coach that first
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class. I wanted to coach the last class. I wanted
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the one in the middle as much as I could. I was
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like, this is my thing. I found this. Started
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sophomore year of college. That's when I started
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coaching. And then my brother ended up passing
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away in a car crash in October of 20... Man,
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I don't even remember what year now. It was 2016,
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maybe? 2015? Something like that. But that was
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right at that start, sophomore year of college,
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really starting to coach more and do more. And
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losing him, man, hit me like a ton of bricks.
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I was living with him and his wife and their
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three kids. While I went to college, my dad still
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hadn't retired from his full -time job yet. So
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he was living in another town, you know, doing
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his thing, just making it through each day. Losing
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him, definitely, like, I stepped back from everything
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for a while. I think I missed, like, two weeks
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of school. I probably didn't set foot back in
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that gym for about a month. I kind of quit doing
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some CrossFit. I was doing like bodybuilding
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pro type of this at a local community center.
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And I was, I was waking up and eating and taking
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a nap and eat again and go back to sleep for
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the day. And it was, uh, that was very much so
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as depressed as I had been probably ever. So
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was still living with. Laura, my brother's wife,
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was still living with them and their kids. So
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I was just trying to, hey, if I can run kids
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to school or help pick them up or whatever I
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could do. I wanted to be there to help. You know,
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family comes first always. So trying to help
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them, trying to help myself, the community at
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that CrossFit gym pulled me out of that. Back
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to what I was saying before, the people that
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you hang out with, the people that I was closest
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to, whether it be text messages, whether it be
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them calling me in the middle of the day, you
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name it, man, they were reaching out. If they
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saw me, it was a small town. So usually always
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run into somebody that I know somewhere, even
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if it was gentle nudges out in public of, man,
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I hope things are going good. Hope to see you
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at the gym soon. Like pulled me back out of that.
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Yeah. So I think that. You know, those timelines
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of things and the communities that I was with
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really made me just want to invest in them as
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much as I possibly could. Being around them,
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helping them grow, making sure that they don't
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step into any kind of deep, dark, dirty places
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that our minds take us sometimes and that they
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stay positive, uplifted, and just like I keep
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saying, just move in the right direction. Yeah,
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that's amazing. Now, I want to pull on a small
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thread you talked about there in that how helpful
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the community was in reaching out to you in the
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dark time. I find that there's somebody that
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I know that's going through a really rough time
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right now and mentioned, rightfully so, that
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some people say the stupidest things to you when
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you're grieving, you know? And so I think the
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consequence of the opposite of that is that sometimes
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people don't, because you don't have any of the
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right words, right? And then you're like, I don't
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want to not. say anything, but I want them to
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know I'm thinking about them. So for you, do
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you have in your mind, like the top two or three
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things that you found most valuable when you
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were in that place? Like what people can do when
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they know someone's hurting? That'd be a good
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question. And I totally know what they're saying.
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And I, granted, I'm guilty of this too. You know,
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the first time that I had to deal with a close
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friend or family member's tragic loss, it wasn't
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like a severe loss of my own. I think the first
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thing I said to someone, Going into their visitation,
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I gave them a hug and I said, how are you doing?
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Like, what do you mean, how are you doing? Oh,
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no. Yeah, yeah. It was when they said it, I saw
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their face and was like, oh, I said that. And
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I just hugged them again. And I'll talk to you
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later. I'm going to scoot. I don't think there
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are right words, period. Like, I think just being
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there and being a sounding board is probably
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the best that. anyone could do. When my mom passed
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away, friends, family, everything like that came
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over. And I think the most value I got was just
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some friends that just sat with me. I wasn't,
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you know, bawling, crying, anything like that.
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But the ones that were just there, like that
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I knew and felt the, if I need something, I know
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I can ask them. Like just having that, I don't
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know if there are any right words. period there's
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no words that i can remember hearing in either
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one of those times that were the like that felt
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good i think it was just the continuous efforts
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even if even if there were some that you were
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like why would you say that but the fact that
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they kept trying or kept saying something um
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yeah i think those are those were the biggest
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things really no that's super powerful it is
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absolutely and i know that i'm guilty too of
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like i was saying somebody that's dealing with
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something or going through something having words
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just period i think that i'm very much so a uh
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let me let me show up and show you that i care
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i can have some powerful words from time to time
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but i'm a if you need help with this let me go
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do something for you i'm a doer i'll do do whatever
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i can for the people that i love so i don't know
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that could just be a me thing too like i would
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just rather have that physical connection, the
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personal connection versus the text or the phone
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call or anything like that. No, I think you're
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actually onto something there because I hear
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this similar thing reflected by people often
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that, you know, hey, just someone's presence
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is more powerful than their words. And there
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may not be any right words. I think you're right.
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Because I think that's why we feel that angst.
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You're like, I want to say something comforting,
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but I don't feel like. But there are definitely
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wrong words, right? Like you said, like, how
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are you? Which I've done at a visitation too.
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Also weird, stupid crap like anything that starts
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with at least you should just not just keep it
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to yourself, you know, like, well, at least,
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you know, no, no, no, stop. No, right now. I
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do want to know that that presence is the most
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powerful thing. I think that's super spot on.
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Yeah, absolutely. So you mentioned power of figuring
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out the license to be able to do something in
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that arena. And the reason why. I want to pull
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that out as well is I've had my mentors say before
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that some of them believe that mentorship or
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something that you have to invest in, whether
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it's financial or from an effort standpoint or
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both, have more value than something that's given
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for free. And so the reason why I wanted to ask
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you about that is because you mentioned like
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if your dad hadn't helped you and Alan hadn't
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helped you, that maybe you wouldn't have stuck
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with it. But I wonder, do you think that If there
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wasn't a barrier of entry like that, that you
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had to get some sort of certification or whatever,
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and you could have just started personal training,
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do you think there would have been any difference
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there? Yeah, that's a really good question. I
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do. I think if I could have been able to just
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get online and take a fitness quiz and pass it
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and have a certification then and be able to
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do that, I don't know if I would have. taken
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as much pride in it. I think I probably would
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have still found some passion with leading and
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coaching and things like that. But I wouldn't
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be excited to tell someone that, hey, I've got
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my CrossFit level one, like I know what I'm doing.
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I know what I'm saying. No, I don't think I would
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have stuck with it probably any really, I would
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have enjoyed the coaching, but I wouldn't have,
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I wouldn't have cared about a certification or
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a title or a license, anything like that. Kind
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of like right now. So I'm in school for massage
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therapy. I think I've got about four or five
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months left and then I'm done with that. Going
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back to school was really tough. I'm not great
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at school anyways, but finding a way to pay for
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that really made me push myself and work hard.
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You know, like you were saying, if you pay for
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something, you don't want this to be the main
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motivation. If there's something, you know, hanging
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over my head of your pain, where are you going
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to let it slip away? Come on, you got to try
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at least a little bit on here. Now, granted,
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in the state of Missouri, you need 650 hours
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through textbook stuff and clinicals and anatomy
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and physiology, all that stuff combined. In the
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state of Kansas, you do not need a license to
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be a massage therapist at all. I could go find
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a building to rent. I could throw a table in
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a room. Put a big old sign up that says massage
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by Trey, whatever, whatever I want it to be and
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start charging and performing massages with no
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legal repercussions or anything like that. I
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think that if that was the same thing here in
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Missouri, I don't think there's any way that
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I would be doing that. I'm kind of a squirrel
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brain, but I know how business and stuff works.
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If there's no barrier of entry, then the market's
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probably going to be oversaturated and a whole
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bunch of them and a whole lot of not good names
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and things like that. I don't think I would even
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entertain that no matter how much I do enjoy
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it. But here, we're real close to Kansas, where
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we're located here in Missouri. I know people
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can drive 15 minutes to go get a massage from
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somebody over there who may or may not. have
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licenses. That was a budget thought that came
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through my head was, hey, if I'm serious about
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doing this, I can drive 15 or 20 minutes to work
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every day and just throw off the space and start
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trying to do some things. But like you were saying
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too, I don't think I would have stuck with it
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or tried nearly as hard as I could. That is tough.
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I love getting free information and helping as
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many people as possible. So like the, like the
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lover in me wants, if somebody wants to learn
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something or do something, like I want it to
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be as easy as possible for them to do it. But
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there has to be a barrier of entry to people
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that want to, that want to take that and try
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to help others. I don't know. I know the barrier
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of entry and trying to like find ways to make
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those harder or good. Like I know it, but that
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still doesn't change it. Like in my heart, I
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don't know. I'm getting weird. A little bit of
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a weird mindset on that. Yeah, yeah. We're reading
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a book right now on our management team by Brandon
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Thornhill. And he says there's a lot of value
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in paid mentorship. He's like, but there are
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other instances where you can get value from
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a mentor. And he's specifically talking about
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mentorship in this case. But he's like, there
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are other instances like if you become a friend
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to the mentor, for example, then that person
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will want to help you just because of the relationship,
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because you provide value to them. They'll exchange
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value back. So there's some other caveats that
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I think probably dovetail with why you're feeling
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that tension. But man, you do totally hit it
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as far as on the massage side where you're like,
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no, this has, and the pride that you took in
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the certification you got back home. You're like,
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no, this has value. This took me work and intentionality.
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And it also adds some credit to you. You're like,
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no, no, no. I know what I'm talking about. Look,
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this is my, this is what I worked towards. This
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is what I learned. So by that nature, like for
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our local listeners, tell them where you are,
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what you're doing, how they can find you. Yeah.
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So a little plug. I appreciate that. I am a student
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at Harmony School of Massage in Joplin. It's
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over real close to 4th and Main. I am in my student
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clinicals right now. So I am performing massages
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on people. You can book through the school's
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website. If you Google it, the website pops up
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and then my name's on there. That's right. We'll
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put it in the show notes too, yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
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man. I do licenses and certifications and things
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like that. Today's day and age, I think that
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those becoming harder to get are a good thing
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because I know for my CrossFit stuff, like I
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used it as some marketing on my social media
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pages. If I could post... that with my name on
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it and explain kind of what it is or what i do
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or how i'm doing it i think that that helped
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me get into you know the some of the other careers
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that i've had whether it be managing at five
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star or working at 24 here in town or like any
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anything that's kind of changed my path being
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able to use those correctly like you were saying
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as a credential and Credential. Yeah, that's
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a big word. Credential to hate. Look, I know
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what I'm talking about and here's proof. Like
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here, I have this because I need that. I need
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to hit with that. Right, right. So Trey, obviously
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you've been in the movement space for a long
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time. I love that you're getting into the massage
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space now because you're able to help athletes
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that were like you to move better. So it's just
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another dimension of what you're passionate about,
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which is super, super cool to see you do, to
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be honest, from my perspective. And so I think
00:27:45.619 --> 00:27:47.619
people get overwhelmed. You know, we talk about
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the all or nothing mentality a lot. How people
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are like, well, I want to get fit. I have to
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start moving. And then they start thinking in
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a frenzy of all the things that they have to
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do. And they make these drastic goals overwhelm
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themselves. They can't follow through. Then they
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just stop. So what is, you know, you've been
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doing this a really long time. For someone who
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knows they need to get off the couch, knows they
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need to get their health in check, but they don't
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know what to do. What are some of your rapid
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fire things that you're like, try this, try that?
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What are the things you say? In doing personal
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training, the number one thing that we saw with
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people is even though you're trying to lose weight,
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I guarantee you're under eating. Say that again?
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What was that? What? Yeah, exactly. Even though
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you're trying to lose weight, I can guarantee
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you you're under eating. Now, the FDA, everything
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like that is all walking off for me. You can't
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walk around Walmart in any aisle without seeing
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something with protein on it. Pop -Tarts even
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came out the... protein pop tart is there oh
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hey we're super deficient in this maybe we should
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eat more of it nice about time here we go um
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man the the nutrition is probably the number
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one thing and most everyone i'd never ever ever
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talked about taking food away we added more food
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to what they were eating already it was uh hey
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i want you we're gonna get a protein shake in
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a day i don't care what else you eat protein
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helps you feel fuller longer Whether it be a
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shake, eating a steak, having a hamburger, whatever
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it may be, just protein. It can just make you
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feel full. So that was probably the number one
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thing that I talked to people about was that.
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Other than that was movement. What do you do
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at work? Do you sit at a desk all day? How hard
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would it be for you to walk for five, ten minutes
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total in a day? Whether that be send whatever
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document you're doing, get up. walk to the bathroom,
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come back, do that three or four times, anything,
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anything just to get people up. I've even done
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things of a, hey, you do some good movement throughout
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the day. I want you to, if you're going to scroll
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on your phone, you have to be in the bottom of
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a squat. If you're going to scroll TikTok, Instagram,
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.259
anything like that, you have to be in a squat
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position doing that. Some people don't realize
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how much they scroll Instagram and TikTok till
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they can't walk our next session. My legs are
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killing me. Yeah, steps. Steps are always a good
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thing. get up and move, stretch. If you can do
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something that will make someone feel better,
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the likelihood of them doing it more or adding
00:30:15.029 --> 00:30:18.289
something to that always piles up. If you do
00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:20.170
something like, hey, I need you to work out five
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days a week starting now, you don't work out
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at all, that can make them sore and uncomfortable
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and not feel good. So then they're not gonna,
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why would I do that? Like I just, I hurt more
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than what I did before. So anything just to...
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Even if you can get them to get up and stretch,
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they will feel better after that. If they will
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do, you know, go out and walk for five minutes
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after they eat dinner, they're going to sleep
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better, their digestion is going to be better,
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like all of those things. So it's really different
00:30:46.369 --> 00:30:49.069
for each person, but do something to make them
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feel better. Don't take anything away yet. Keep
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stacking and piling. I just rattled that off.
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I really had to check myself this year and the
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end of last year. Starting school and everything
00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:04.460
like that, I fell off the gym, fitness, health,
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.539
everything like that hard. School, sitting down
00:31:07.539 --> 00:31:09.960
to read a book, taking a test, doing things like
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that are not my strong suit at all. So paying
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.680
the money to go do that, that was my number one
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.680
focus. If I would have just stuck with hitting
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the gym some more and staying disciplined, I'd
00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:23.640
be in a lot better shape. But I didn't. Almost
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everyone has a period in life where they fall
00:31:25.779 --> 00:31:27.779
off of something. This was just another one of
00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:30.119
mine. Just kind of another check on the list.
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.119
When did Trey fall off her fitness again? Here.
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Perfect. So we're back on it now. I jumped right
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back in. Like I was hitting full -fledged leg
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days, chest and back and arms. And I was going
00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:46.720
to go run some more and ran a 5K. And then my
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.230
body was like. What are you doing to me? So I
00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:53.430
had to back that up a little bit. One thing after
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another, slow, steady progress. So really, I
00:31:56.250 --> 00:31:58.549
think after years of telling people that, me
00:31:58.549 --> 00:32:01.089
having to do it again, kind of backed off that
00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:03.369
perspective, like the ruthlessness that I was
00:32:03.369 --> 00:32:06.029
starting to have with some people. I've already
00:32:06.029 --> 00:32:07.450
told them this. If they're not going to do it,
00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:09.589
then yes, they're not going to do it. Me having
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to remind myself countless times, days on end,
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for months at a time. Yeah, stuff's hard, man.
00:32:16.730 --> 00:32:19.759
Life's hard. Hmm. That's right. It's tough. Cause
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it's not, it's not grand. It's not sexy. It's
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.000
not immediate. Like it's this slow progression.
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And I think the default mode of most people is
00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:31.799
they want, they want to see get rich quick. You
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.039
know what I mean? Like what's the one pill, what's
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.400
the one thing I can do. And then, you know, then
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.980
I won't have to, you know, and so what you're
00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:41.640
describing is that layered, like create that
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.900
foundation where you're as a personal trainer.
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.000
background, you're assessing where they're at.
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And then you're like, okay, how is the foundation?
00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.539
If it doesn't exist, build it. If it does exist,
00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:53.859
reinforce it. And then, you know, keep stacking
00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.640
on top. And I love that, you know, you were super
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.099
honest too. Even people who've been in the gym
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:01.700
for decades like you and I, there are always
00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:04.460
times that you're just not feeling it. And like
00:33:04.460 --> 00:33:06.339
you said, it kind of humbled you too because
00:33:06.339 --> 00:33:08.720
you're not going to be, it actually makes you
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:09.960
a better coach because you're not going to be
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.779
a hypocrite, you know, asking people because
00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:13.460
you're like, no, no, no. I remember when I was
00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.799
in a season and then that translates into your
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.920
coaching too. So yeah, the consistency beats
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.039
intensity. I heard that this week and I was like,
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.819
oh, that's solid. Like you're going to see more
00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:26.460
growth in any area, not just fitness, if you're
00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:28.920
consistent. consistent over spending three hours
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.640
a week in the gym for one session like that's
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.839
just not going to do it for you absolutely absolutely
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:38.380
that's a yeah say that again consistency beats
00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:41.200
intensity that's it yeah i like that you'd be
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.619
on a t -shirt or something get on a t -shirt
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yeah right there yeah yeah well trey we're reading
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we're reaching the end of the session is there
00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:51.599
anything else that you can think of that You
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.980
want to share? No. I mean, I think more just
00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:56.940
kind of like me, anyone that knows me, I'm always
00:33:56.940 --> 00:34:00.599
happy for the awesome guy. I want to be the person
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.480
that others want to be around. I want to be the,
00:34:03.500 --> 00:34:06.480
man, did you see Trey smiling today? Like that
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.579
dude's always happy. Like if they see me this
00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:12.579
way, I want it to be impossible for you to not
00:34:12.579 --> 00:34:16.360
smile back at me. That type of positivity and
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.199
energy can spread like wildfire. That's really
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.380
like my biggest why. Like just spread some positivity,
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.559
spread some good energy, make people smile. One
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.079
of my favorite quotes is be somebody that makes
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.360
everybody feel like a somebody. And that, yeah,
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:32.639
like I want people to be heard. I want them to
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.199
be seen. I want them to smile. And I want them
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.780
to make someone else be heard, feel seen, make
00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:40.039
them smile. Yeah, because that spreads. Yeah.
00:34:40.139 --> 00:34:42.980
And right now it's probably arguably more valuable
00:34:42.980 --> 00:34:46.059
than it ever has been. Yeah. Absolutely. Nothing
00:34:46.059 --> 00:34:49.880
has ever really tested that. And me and my beliefs,
00:34:50.059 --> 00:34:52.480
like, I mean, I'm going to say it like COVID
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.019
did. Man, that, wear the mask and hide your face
00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:58.980
and don't go out in public. Oh, that was soul
00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:01.820
sucking for me. I would go to Walmart just to
00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:04.219
go buy an energy drink because I knew I had to
00:35:04.219 --> 00:35:06.019
walk to the back of the store and hopefully walk
00:35:06.019 --> 00:35:08.659
past people just to crack a, how are you doing?
00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:11.989
oh sorry let me get out of your way just anything
00:35:11.989 --> 00:35:15.070
like that to smile and nod yeah man that i tested
00:35:15.070 --> 00:35:18.070
it hard the change i saw in people once we got
00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:21.050
to start taking some ass off and smile and and
00:35:21.050 --> 00:35:23.389
look at each other and be normal again that that
00:35:23.389 --> 00:35:26.489
reinforced it after that of okay hey no my my
00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:29.619
mind's right on this like You need to keep working,
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.420
keep trying, keep moving the right direction.
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.940
That's it. And I'll tell you guys, I work with
00:35:33.940 --> 00:35:36.780
Trey at our normal W2 jobs. And I'll tell you
00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:39.679
that it's the real deal. Like he practices that
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.559
more than anyone I know. And he lives that out.
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.820
And so just think about that this week. Like,
00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:48.840
how can you be somebody that people want to be
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.099
around? And then that old adage of you never
00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:54.239
know what someone's going through. And so be
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.900
quick to smile, be quick to see people, make
00:35:56.900 --> 00:35:59.239
them. feel seen as well because you never, like
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:00.880
I said, you'll never know what somebody's going
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.599
through and how one smile or one kind word can
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.199
leave them feeling so much different, so much
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.460
better and can cause a chain reaction in the
00:36:09.460 --> 00:36:11.699
other way because Lord knows we need that right
00:36:11.699 --> 00:36:14.840
now more than ever in today's age where negativity,
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.800
honestly, just spreads so fast, right? Absolutely.
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All right. Well, thanks everybody for listening
00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:23.000
to the Optimizing Beyond podcast. Remember, growth
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.699
happens when you take action. So subscribe, share
00:36:25.699 --> 00:36:28.260
this with a friend. And most importantly, go
00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:31.820
to see Trey at Harmony Massage and put what you
00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:33.800
learned into practice. Until next time, keep
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.340
moving forward because as we know, daily anything
00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:37.719
changes everything.