Jets Training Camp: Players to Watch

Devy: What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Optimistic Depression Pod. It has been a while. We took a little bit of a hiatus. Life got in the way. I moved. I'm having a baby.
Dutchie: Baseball. Jay strike first, they're up. One and nothing. Tie down, bottom three, George Springer up.
Devy: Ricky still lives in Canada. The Knicks won a championship. There's been a lot that has happened. The World Cup. But we're back. You know, I can honestly say the Jets have not been on my mind these past two weeks, but I'm starting to get hyped watching quarterback. Early fantasy research, all that good stuff. You know, you can kind of smell footballs back in the air with training camp opening up this weekend. honestly, training camp that this time of year is when the Jets really kind of win. We win training camp. Like this is this is there's
Rizzi: Course.
Devy: nobody better at training camp than the Jets. We win every battle. We are elite when we do, you know, busy teams coming into our camps and all that. you know, so I I'm excited to see what happens, you know, with the training camp. Personally, one of the things that I'm most excited for at training camp is I really actually like no joke, I'm very curious to see how Gino is in training camp. Like I want is he gonna be threading the needle? Is he gonna be getting picked off constantly? And then my other thing that I'm really eager to see is what does the defense look like? Like how are they improving on defense
Matt: Well.
Devy: and and how is Aaron Glenn preparing them throughout training camp?
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: Because that is the biggest thing that needs to improve this year is the defense. Aside from everything else. but let's open it up. What do you what do you guys think? What are you guys looking forward to as far as it goes to for training camp, heading into this weekend?
Rizzi: I mean there's a lot I mean there's a lot that I'm looking forward to. I obviously I'm probably leader in the clubhouse for most optimistic and excited here, but I think there's a lot to be excited about. I think there's a lot of new talent coming in, contrary to what people what everyone else is saying. On both sides of the ball there's a bunch of talent coming in. I'm excited to see Sadiq. I'm excited to see how the T E room plays out. I'm excited to see the QB two battle with with Cade and Bailey Zappi. and believe you know I'm excited to see overall defense for his offense, offense for his defense, and kind of Frank Reich, Brian Ducker. Obviously it's AG's defense, but like the coaches are as much of a story as the players are. So
Devy: There th there's just no way though that you're actually excited for Bailey Zappy versus Kate Klubnick. There's just no way. What like what
Rizzi: I'm just excited Well I am ex I'm excited because as a K believer it it if he doesn't win this battle then it's over. Right? Yeah yeah if he can't Yeah, yeah, and yeah, exactly. If he if
Dutchie: I'm excited to see how he looks out there.
Rizzi: he can't win the QB two battle then then the K the Kike dream is dead.
Devy: I kinda disagree. I kinda disag I kinda disagree though. And I'm I don't think that there like personally, like it's not that Bailey Zappi is like a good quarterback, and like I don't want to spend too much time talking about Bailey Zappi, but he he's he's a he
Rizzi: He's a professional quarterback.
Devy: Yeah, he's been around. Like I he's likely, in my opinion, as good as Cade could play really well throughout training camp. He could play really well in the preseason. But I still think that Frank Briggson put Bailey's happy as QB two because the Gino goes down early. If Gino goes down early, they don't want to throw K Klubnik in, you know, early in the season. However, I could see K I
Rizzi: Yeah.
Dutchie: Significant improvement in pain, redness, itching, and burning. Don't use the allergy.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: depending on where the Juds are at the end of the year, you know, they if they're in the hunt, you know, Gino's gonna be playing every game if he's healthy.
Rizzi: We're gonna be in the hunt, don't worry.
Devy: I b personally I kind of agree with that. And if they're kind of that that's that's all
Dutchie: Kill to be in that in the hunt graphic dude. Kill.
Devy: that's that's one of my biggest goals, honestly, is just Being the hunt. Like that's really all that's that's like that's as good as making the bios for me this year is like being in the hunt.
Dutchie: my god.
Rizzi: We'll we'll eventually get there, but the schedule if we're gonna be a good team, the schedule lines up to where we will be in the hunt. Like just the meet of the schedule in the middle the season, it's we i if they're a good team, they will be in the hunt just 'cause they're gonna have easy games.
Devy: Yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a gauntlet to start.
Rizzi: That's a that's a conversation for another day at all.
Devy: but it is a it is a gauntlet to start. but yeah. I mean but I almost like forgot, yeah, like this is like what I but exactly how I started this off. Like I honestly and this is kind of like a it's a good thing for
Dutchie: Steak and melty pooper cheese. It's the best cheese. It's the best meat. It's only available and all reach. We have the meat.
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Devy: the Jets, it's like I've forgotten like what they've done this off season so far until like this week. Like like like Sadiq I go through shit,
Dutchie: Well I say it.
Devy: like actually I'm I remember when I was flipping out when they drafted Sadiq, and it was more so just because the Knicks were on at the same time and they then they lost. Brunson turned the ball over. Brunson turned the ball Yeah.
Dutchie: Wait.
Rizzi: Brunson miss who gets a shot as soon as they drafted Sadiq. Hey, turn the ball up.
Dutchie: The little
Matt: Yeah there is a
Devy: Yeah. It was a mis
Rizzi: Matt Mag Matt probably could detail it better than any of us.
Devy: Well Matt was coming back from
Matt: Yeah
Devy: Turks and Caicos.
Matt: yeah, I was I was in I was in the car and we had
Rizzi: Okay.
Matt: both screens up in the front of the car at the same time and right as Brunson fell on the floor and the loose ball was going down the other side of the court, the Jets picked Sadiq and I had a meltdown in the car.
Devy: But in hindsight
Dutchie: Hey, ended in a championship though, boys. Three three losses. Look at us now.
Matt: But in h but in hindsight, it ended it but look at us. I dude dude, I got I
Rizzi: Yeah, I mean
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: got out of the car because it was like as we were pulling up to the house that happened. I got out of the car and I was like, Bro, the Knicks should just fucking lose these next two games and get this over with. And look where we are. Yeah.
Devy: No, if you if you w if you Yeah, if you would have told me that
Rizzi: Right, 'cause they went down two one to the Hawks, right? Yeah.
Devy: day that the Knicks were gonna win the finals and they're gonna win like 13 in a row after that, I would be like, Yeah, you
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Devy: can go fuck yourself because that's not happening. Like they looked like awful. Like like it
Matt: Dude Awful.
Devy: was I was I was I was with you, man. I like, it just fucking ended already. They me out of the victory, like I don't want to deal with this. I don't wanna just lose to the Celtics next round next round.
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: And then in hindsight, they ended up winning a championship. Sadiq,
Matt: My God.
Devy: we were like What the fuck? Sadiq, like like why? We ended up turning around on that a lot quicker though than like I think
Matt: Yeah, yeah.
Devy: we all expected. Like I think
Rizzi: They really rounded out the first round there with at the end. They came back and got cooked.
Devy: Yeah. Well yeah, the Cooper pick really changed it. But yeah, that that is definitely another thing like on my list as far as like what I'd be looking forward to is, you know, the rookie class and then who looks good early, who struggles early, why are they struggling and kind of like all that stuff. I do think that Sadiq is gonna be a training camp monster. I think he's gonna be one of these guys. Just cause I I think our defense is terrible. He's just gonna absolutely torture our defense. I think Gino is gonna absolutely love him. And I think it's gonna help Garrett to get open and then we'll see what all the other weapons do. but I'm not really worried about the offensive side of the ball if Gino can perform. at least be just be confident. That's that's all that's all it needs to be.
Matt: I was just I just wanna put it out there, I don't want to deter the conversation, but when you guys were talking about being in the hunt and everything and you're talking about Zappy vs Klubnik, I just couldn't help but think about once it's like late September,
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: early October and we go back to this when they're and four and we're talking about in the hunt and then we're talking about like the meat of the this part of the schedule's gonna open up 'cause that's when we're gonna be like, Alright, you know, we're and four, but if they win these seven games in a row and then win these two last two games at home, then they're gonna be I just I just couldn't help but think about that. And then just talking about
Devy: Well, let's be real. They start 0 4, Aaron Glenn's getting fired. Like there's no way he let
Matt: He's gotta finish
Rizzi: A hundred percent, dude.
Matt: the year. He's gotta finish the year.
Devy: I don't know if he starts on four, there is no way.
Rizzi: Actually
Devy: There's no way. That's why the that's why they ha that's
Matt: Yeah, I don't think they're going to but
Devy: why they hired someone like Frank Ray. But like you know what I mean? Like if they start owing four, there's no way they're
Matt: Tank Commander Frank Reich would be absolutely legendary. Legendary.
Rizzi: Well like I've gone contrary to Devin where he he he you haven't been thinking about the Jets, like I it's it's an illness, I think about them quite often and but
Devy: But to be fair, you really have nothing else to kind of distract you from it. Like the like yeah, the Mets are terrible.
Rizzi: the Mets have the Mets have been horrible. I still I still watch them. I mean I I'm most nights I watch them which is disgusting.
Devy: Clip that f clip clip that for Nick.
Matt: No.
Rizzi: but I go back and forth where I think I one day I think AG's leash is pretty long and one day I think it's pretty short. I think ultimately his leash is gonna be a lot longer than we think. I think him
Devy: If you like
Rizzi: and Meiji have sold woody on this plan that they have for the next for the you know the two, three year plan. And I just
Devy: Has but has he or has it been more Muji has sold him on the plan and Aaron Glen's a part of that plan that he's selling right now? But Muji at the end of the day is gonna have to protect himself. Again, also
Rizzi: A hundred percent.
Devy: it they can be owned for and again, it all just depends. They can if they're owned for but they're fucking battling in these four games, they're they're they're just fucking you know, they're not they're
Rizzi: The yeah. There'll be two and two.
Devy: they're not winning the fourth quarter or whatever it is, like they're not closing out these games, then
Rizzi: Right.
Devy: that's a different story. But if it's
Rizzi: Right.
Devy: and four and it's like they're just getting dog walked, especially if they get dog walked by the Titans and stuff like that, then that's a different story. But you know
Rizzi: Yeah. that's another thing we could go into, like how basically the season is determined week one.
Devy: I mean it's
Rizzi: You can't win that you can't w it's Rob Sall's Super Bowl. No.
Dutchie: You can't lose that game bad. You can't lose that game bad. If you lose that game bad, it then the leash is a lot shorter, I think. Like if you lose that
Rizzi: Yeah, exactly.
Dutchie: game i in a in a horrific way, your defense looks terrible, they walk all over you, like i then the leash gets to week four. Like if it's open like it
Rizzi: Right,
Dutchie: it's quick.
Rizzi: 'cause as as optimistic as I am, if you get dog walk week one, you're not you're not coming home and beating the Packers. And then you go on the lower.
Dutchie: Well th that that's also the easiest that's the easiest game like
Rizzi: Or the first four.
Dutchie: other first four by not even it's not even close. And then you have the
Rizzi: Right.
Dutchie: pats. I mean that's a must win too. I'm it doesn't doesn't matter, but like
Rizzi: Is
Devy: Is it p pat pets at home or
Rizzi: it? No, no, no.
Devy: pets on the road?
Dutchie: It's Pats at Patriots ten eighteen, week five. sorry, Browns, Browns, sorry, Browns and Pats. Yeah. Home Browns then Pats. Sorry. Week six Pats.
Matt: Yeah.
Rizzi: Browns, a home home for the Browns. I just I I I'll I'll be home. I'll be home for that game 'cause it's Canadian Thanksgiving. I know I'll be home for that. So I'm gonna go to the first two home games.
Matt: Shout out Shout out Canada and Shout
Dutchie: I might I might go to Gillette.
Matt: out Canada and India.
Dutchie: If we're if if we're looking
Rizzi: I think that's.
Devy: Ha ha ha.
Dutchie: if we're looking good week six, I might I might be going to Gillette.
Rizzi: We're gonna be flew into Golden Gillette. I can't believe I've started this already. July 23rd, 734 Mountain Standard Time. god. Alright, we're kinda we're getting off the rails here. I know,
Matt: And my view couldn't be more my view couldn't be more opposite of this.
Devy: It's just a
Rizzi: but it's perfect with op optimistic depression. We gotta have both sides.
Matt: Optimistic depression. That's right. The yin and the yang.
Dutchie: If we're over five hundred, I'm going to that game on October eighteenth. There's no doubt about it.
Rizzi: Hundy, hundred, dude. Two or three? wow. All right.
Devy: What if what if we're like w what if we're one under five hundred?
Dutchie: In Foxborough. No, not gone.
Devy: two and three. I mean I would sign up for two and three going into the V six right now.
Rizzi: I would take two or three, man. Right.
Dutchie: I'd sign up for it. I'd sign I'd
Matt: I wouldn't.
Dutchie: sign up for
Matt: I wouldn't.
Dutchie: it. I'm just not going to the game and deal with all these Pats fans.
Devy: two t I I easily sign up for two and three.
Matt: I want a quarterback.
Rizzi: We got the guy. K We gonna
Matt: No we don't.
Rizzi: have to we don't have to do this now, but there's many many ways we could get the quarterback
Matt: Yeah, I know. We're not doing this now. That's for sure.
Rizzi: and still be good next year. Should we get into K
Matt: Yeah, we're not doing this
Devy: Matt, you you you're kind
Matt: now.
Devy: of you are kind of like changing like your tune though. Like you're
Matt: What do you mean?
Devy: like originally you were kind of not I'm gonna say like anti tank, but like you wanted to kind of you wanted to win games. Like you wanted to kind of have that foundation built, you know.
Matt: Well, I'm I'm at the I'm at the point where I think they're adding nice pieces to the roster. I'd my where I have my hang ups is I have quite literally not the slightest bit of even a smudge of faith in any part of the coaching staff besides the special teams unit. S and so
Devy: I agree with that. I yeah.
Matt: that's why I don't wanna waste I mean like w we're talk again, we're t like you just said, we're talking about this on July twenty third. Like if they by the grace of God or four and two, I'll be hyped like you guys and be like, you what, fuck it, but that's not gonna happen.
Rizzi: Course.
Matt: But I'm I'm I'm
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: just taking the realistic stance. I think the I think the coaching staff's absolutely sucks. Frank Reich's gonna be a disaster and I just think the writing's already on the wall for everyone on the offensive and defensive staff.
Devy: I'm gonna play I'm gonna play devil's advocate on it because I honestly I don't have like a true thought on it, but it would not shock me if they are 4 2. Like it really like it wouldn't, like because
Matt: I would be floored.
Devy: I I really wouldn't because again, like do you know in his like obviously it he was a year in between in Vegas where he was terrible.
Rizzi: Okay.
Devy: But you look at the situation in Vegas, you cannot compare his situation in Vegas to his situation in Seattle. It's not fair to do that. Like it i it really is not. Again though, but then you can also reference all the years before Seattle and obviously Seattle is an outlier with it. I kind of go it's
Rizzi: Our offense is so talented. And like our line is amazing.
Devy: It it well, it's talented on paper. You have to kind of like see like what it can go from there.
Rizzi: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Devy: I think Gino can execute the offense, and I don't
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: think Frank Reich is gonna necessarily lose his gains as an offensive coordinator. Like I don't really like I think he's gonna call a professional game and that's it. He's he's a he he is it's not like he's he has Gino, who's a veteran quarterback who has keen it all, who is a lot different for him the coach than Bryce Young, who is a rookie quarterback. So I think that kind of plays a different types of feeling you're gonna get from Frank Reich. Where I'm more concerned is Aaron Glenn taking over on the defense because in my opinion, I don't even think Aaron Glenn's a good defensive coordinator. Yeah, I don't think his numbers in Detroit were that impressive. I think he's a great locker roy. He's a great guy for the players. But well, it's not act like that Detroit defense was a top five defense in the NFL because it really wasn't. You know what I mean? They they there was plenty of weeks where they got lit up. And a a a lot of them. Like they and the
Matt: Mm-hmm.
Devy: reason why they won games is because their offense was just so dominant and it was the top offense in the NFL. So I think that's the more of the biggest concern for me. And like that's something to really keep an eye on throughout camp, throughout the preseason and throughout the first weeks
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: of the season is how does the defense look? Because the offen the offseason plan from free agency and trade was improve the defensive side of the ball with
Dutchie: So now we're going to go about handling that we're technically.
Devy: federated players that can actually play the positions. And they did that. They got Aaron Glenn pieces to work with. He's not playing with these practice squads, guys that should not even be on an NFL field anymore. He's got some actual NFL talent on this team to where the defense should not be a bottom five defense. It shouldn't even be a bottom ten defense, in my opinion. It needs to be a lot better than that. As long as things work out in that favor.
Rizzi: You gotta be inside the top twenty to keep your job.
Devy: He I think he needs to be
Rizzi: Defense.
Devy: higher than I mean t from
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: where they are at the top twenty it's probably it's a pretty significant jump. So like I would say
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: like that's definitely something to take in consideration.
Dutchie: Yeah. I would say go like going
Matt: Yeah.
Dutchie: back to Devin's like original question, like who need and you kinda just touched on a little bit, but who needs to have like a good campboard need to see. I think that's like what Geno are you getting? Are you getting Raiders Geno? Are you getting Seattle's g Geno? I saw a clip
Devy: Yeah.
Dutchie: on Instagram, like, I don't know, two days ago about of Seattle Geno just spinning
Rizzi: Man, he was slanging that rock, dude.
Dutchie: it. Like he the offense was working for him, like and he looked incredible. So he's he's not afraid to throw it. And if we get a good looking Gino, I think it could be it could be special, but like And then the secondary too. I just I just think we need to see like it's just a a semblance of like a secondary in camp. Like just not they don't have to be great, they just need to look like they know what they're doing. Because like last year they didn't look at it they were terrible.
Devy: Yeah, I mean the sec the secondary
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: will be as good as the pass rush is. So the secondary will perform a lot better if the pass rush is better. You know what I mean? Like you could you can
Rizzi: Hopeful and hopefully our pass rush is much better.
Devy: yeah, if you have a decent you
Dutchie: Hopefully.
Devy: have a mediocre secondary, but you have a an elite pass rush, then your secondary is gonna be pretty is gonna be good enough to to not
Dutchie: Mm-hmm.
Devy: be a you know, a liability at the end of the day. But if you're not getting a pressure to the quarterback, which again, that's another need that they addressed, you know, they completely overhauled there. They they did what they needed to do.
Matt: Mm-hmm.
Devy: You know, if the works out the way that they expect it to, then that should be a significant improvement as well. D'Avenio Davis is another significant improvement. Gives you a veteran in the linebacker position, which they desperately needed. It will make Sherwood a million times better. Sherwood's still the team, right? And it's
Matt: Yeah. He's on my
Rizzi: Yeah, fortunately.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: He's on my list. Should we send it around the horn here for our our camp battles?
Matt: he's on my list of people to talk about. I was just gonna give yeah, I was just gonna give one last one last comment on the whole coaching thing. I just I just think Reich, like, you know, he hasn't been good since twenty eighteen and I don't think he's had a top half offense since he left Philly when they won the Super Bowl. And I just have you know Personnel wise, I feel a lot better about the offense and the defense, and that's nice to say, being that we're setting up for a rookie quarterback next year. But I mean I still don't
Devy: But
Matt: have faith in in what the off and then the defense, I like it completely agree with what you said about Glenn. He's a total question mark calling a defense. And then personnel wise, they did add like DiMario, they did add Minka, but there's still a lot of work to do on that side of the ball, like depth wise.
Devy: Hundred percent.
Matt: And 'cause, you know, DiMario and Mink aren't playing a hundred percent of the snaps and those guys are off the field once. Big play I mean you could say this about any team, but that's why you need depth and that's why I just don't I don't think it's there yet. I think they're they're personnel wise they're totally heading in the right direction. I just don't think they're in the winning games spot yet. It's gonna the four's gonna be a lot higher for sure. Because they have actual
Devy: Yeah, I mean
Matt: NFL players on it, but
Devy: And it's it's not that Frank Ragg is the answer by by any means he's definitely not. And you know, I'm not expecting them to fucking go out there and win the division. But I definitely think that it's fair enough to accept them to win like if if they are if they're c if they click as they they should click, then they should be in games. Like they should be they should be able to s
Dutchie: For the far-sighted, near-sighted, for introverts, for extroverts.
Matt: Yes.
Devy: scrap out some wins that you know, earlier in the season
Dutchie: That's all.
Devy: than rather than last year, whereas later in the season.
Matt: And I do agree with that, 'cause I I do think that like, you know, he'll run an archaic style and maybe it'll click a little early
Dutchie: Love.
Matt: on, but I think it gets figured out quick if it's clicking at all. So I do agree with that. Like if if they're gonna have success
Devy: For sure. You c Yeah, I mean take
Matt: it probably will be early.
Devy: I mean, take Indi in D for last year for for instance, you know what I mean? Like once they got figured out, they didn't win another game. You know what I mean? Like it was they
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: weren't they weren't that
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Devy: good that good of a team. They just they had something working and then the everyone figured it out and they then Daniel Jones got hurt and then they also just did not win a game the rest of season. And
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: you see you see that a lot. but yeah, I mean like that's that's kind of just where it is at this point.
Matt: I do I do expect the the offense to be better than the defense though.
Devy: I agree. I totally agree.
Matt: But but yeah, I guess you wanna get into I mean, going off going off that, get into the talking about camp, who needs a big camp, who what battles we wanna see, all that.
Devy: Yeah, go ahead, kick us off.
Matt: So I came prepared with five names, but I don't know how d how did you guys do this?
Rizzi: I have I have
Dutchie: We have a marketer.
Rizzi: four position groups, I have one player, and then I have one member of the coaching staff.
Matt: Okay. So
Rizzi: It's kinda and the member of the corps champ is kind of will be like into the the season and lesson camp.
Matt: Right.
Dutchie: I kinda went more that route too, so but
Matt: Okay.
Devy: I kinda buy more just visitor players.
Matt: Yeah. So I guess I can kick I guess we could we could go through our players and then you guys like join in as we as
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: we hit a player that talks about your position group. So I started off I was
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: we were talking about the secondary. I started off with my number one with Zarya Thomas.
Dutchie: So itchy and crusty.
Matt: So I mean that corner room is interesting. Like they just drafted Pons, they have Brownlee Stevens. I just think you invested an early third round pick with Thomas, I think you wanna see you wanna see hopefully the signs of a future C B two. I'm not asking him to be a C B one, but I think if you if you know what you're gonna get this year before you get, you know, the number one corner on this team, if you if he shows some promise and some consistency that he can you know, be in there
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Matt: every snap and hold it down because last
Devy: Okay.
Matt: year, you know, we know the secondary was an absolute atrocity and to know that we have a guy that can even, you know, fill in C B three I I I just wanna know that we
Dutchie: Small fourth and the blizzard don't mind scaling the piece of lizard the setting down the two other blizzard upgrade.
Matt: can feel comfortable with him on the field and I think it'd be big for him too, because he's gonna need to step into a bigger role than he's going to in future years because, you know, as the team
Dutchie: That guy was a lot too.
Matt: adds more talent, like I said, he's not gonna be the C B one, but I think you you do want to see a thread around pick, stick around and hold a starting job for sure. So I think he's he's definitely important, especially with that lacking position group.
Dutchie: Yeah, starting
Rizzi: hundred percent. I I had the D B's written down all as a whole. Like safety cornerback.
Dutchie: a lot.
Rizzi: I don't know what I worry about the safety room. Like I was listening to Badlands, shout out Baylands, and they were talking, they were like no one saw about it, but it's like we're gonna look at week one and Andre Sisko is gonna be one of our starting safeties. And I don't know how I feel about that. I don't I
Matt: Like that's that's
Rizzi: don't love that. I will love that if I'm being honest.
Dutchie: Some advertising options. Higher idea of Cleveland, Miami, Old State, Philadelphia. I go to Old State and I joined Steph Cup.
Rizzi: So I don't know. I and where do you where else do you go and who is coming in like who's our safety help besides
Matt: That's really bad. And that's why number three I had Malachi Moore was on my list. Because yeah. Because
Rizzi: Right, that's my guy.
Matt: if if he flashes
Rizzi: You don't like him to be this in Cisco spot.
Matt: Right. Because dude, like I'm trying
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: to think of what it was. Like going like how many times have they gone into a year with a glaring hole? And then that's and then that's the reason that they lose early on. Like we're like watch Right, dude, like we'll like watch. We'll hop we'll hop on after the Elik Aya Manor has two touchdowns week one
Dutchie: script in the trash. LeBron still hasn't decided where he's gonna play his 842 season. Had some false starts. Steve Curry told fans it's the Warriors. LeBron himself referenced Trump's process over a fanatics test. And then the heat pointed at placeholder mistakenly for an introductory
Rizzi: And everyone move it. Right.
Devy: And it and it's usually the s it's usually the safety position too.
Rizzi: Yeah. You think.
Matt: and we're talking about a close loss to Bob Salah and we're like Andre Sisko Sisko blue t Yeah, Chim DK
Rizzi: We'll just go out to launch on
Matt: got past Andre Sisko three times. Like what are we talking about, man? And then we're gonna be like,
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Matt: why did how how did they let this happen? You could just see the writing on the wall for that from a mile away. So I'm so happy you said that.
Rizzi: Yeah, I I don't know. I and and like we're kinda just stuck with this. You you g you have to hope that that Malachi or Malachi either steps in and plays well where Cisco is not the guy we saw last year and it just figures it out. Next to Mika Mika should help.
Dutchie: And who's we picked up this in the important part of We picked up someone from Chicago too, right? Naishon, right? Like do we think yeah, do we think anything from him or I mean like I mean
Rizzi: Nashawn, right, yeah. He he's C B he's a ball hawk.
Matt: Yeah, it's corner. Yeah.
Dutchie: Yeah, but he's gonna be like C B
Matt: Him and him and
Dutchie: two, right? I mean
Matt: I don't know, 'cause he's like and he's another guy, he's he's just like so
Dutchie: Be Stevens and him.
Matt: turnover meaty. Like he'll get burned and then
Rizzi: He's gonna get torched.
Matt: Yeah, yeah.
Rizzi: But
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: he'll have a he'll it'll be like week ten he'll have like three picks, four picks. Hopefully, hopefully.
Matt: Hopefully.
Devy: I mean
Rizzi: We just we just want one to start. Yeah, they'll do they're gonna be flying out of the covers by week ten.
Dutchie: We could hear we we're due for an interception. We we're due we're due.
Devy: I mean the The kind of the kind of the piggyback off of that though is I think last year something that was kind of interesting too is like how
Rizzi: Okay.
Devy: awful Stevens was to start the season and then he got significantly better throughout the middle of the season than he telled off towards the end, but they all did it towards the end. So I'm curious to see kind of like how that translates into this year also, is where does Stevens start and where does he progress to. he's someone on my list because he intrigues me because we've experienced the highs of him and the lows of him, and the lows are pretty freaking low. so I'm definitely curious to see where he steps in with that. And I think right from Chicago is gonna be a similar situation where I think at the start of the season we're gonna be like, Fuck this guy. And then he's gonna get the first pick for us and we're gonna be like, Let's go and we're gonna be so hype. You know what I mean? 'Cause like that's just gonna be how it is.
Dutchie: I mean yeah.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: Yeah. It's it's gonna be one or two things. Like it's gonna be like the first
Dutchie: Yeah, Stevens was atrocious.
Devy: player of the game, week one, he's gonna pick somebody off and we're gonna be going nuts and then he's gonna absolutely torch the next drive after that.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: Or like it's gonna be like week eight, we still don't have a pick and then he gets one. It's only between to that.
Rizzi: Right. And going back to the co
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: I think Go,
Rizzi: going back to the coaching
Matt: go, go.
Rizzi: staff, like yes, there's a lot of question marks, a lot of unknowns, but they are all still NFL coaches and they've had a full year to assess what they need, to assess how players fit in and out of their systems and schemes and want to run. So like you coming from a hopeful standpoint, like you just hope that the guys I have in are the guys that they think fit their scheme the best and maybe we do you know maybe we do punch above our weight class to start.
Matt: Yeah, and and where I gotta give them like Glenn and his coaches credit, well I mean like he he cleared out half the coaches in the whole
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Matt: room, but where I gotta give Glenn himself credit is he's not like the Sala type where it's like, you know, we're gonna we're gonna do it our way and if it's if if if our way fails then, you know, all we care about is our process. Like like Glenn comes out there, he's like, you know, I I I fucked up with the coaching staff and he even says it himself. His actions don't even just say it. He He he literally says it to the media, he's
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: like, Yeah, I miscalculated something which is like it it is good to see. Like maybe that does mean something and but who knows. I I I just lean the other
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Matt: way 'cause I haven't seen it, but for him to actually to
Rizzi: Yeah, and I don't blame you.
Matt: be accountable like that and say, you know, I I came about this the wrong way, let me try to fix it, maybe it's too little too late, but it does show for something at least.
Rizzi: Yeah, a hundred percent. I don't know where Devin just went, but I'm gonna sticking with the defense, I'm very interested to see Jamie and Sherwood. I you know
Dutchie: We need Devin for this. Okay. I'll be kidding.
Rizzi: I know we do, but where the hell is he he looked you know he looked good in the solid defense, the solid Holberick
Matt: He's with his he's with his son.
Rizzi: defense. last year he was horrible. Last year he looked like he couldn't play for the for
Dutchie: So bad.
Rizzi: the Calgary Stan Peters in the CFL. Like he was horrendous. and you just hope with Demario coming in that like takes away some of that pressure because he's not gonna wear a green dot. He's not gonna be the captain of the defense, he's not gonna be the number one never mind back at Devin, I know why you're looking at me like that. but that's that's my biggest thing in camp is
Dutchie: He can just go out there and run around and he doesn't have to worry about anything. Yeah.
Rizzi: k is he gonna look like an NFL player and look like he knows what he's doing because last year he looked lost, completely lost.
Matt: That's great that's a it's it's a ringing endorsement for someone that got paid fifty million dollars. Let's see if he looks like an NFL player. But I wrote
Rizzi: Yeah, exactly.
Matt: the I wrote the same I wrote the same thing down for him. He's on my list obviously. But just go
Devy: I wrote something down.
Rizzi: Okay.
Devy: I wrote Jamie Sherwood. Fucking retard is what I wrote online. Because that's he
Matt: Listen, listen.
Devy: like whoever said th he just runs around. Like that's all that's all
Rizzi: Julie edit that out.
Devy: he just has his dreads flocking in the wind and he's just running around. That's all he does.
Matt: Dude Dude there's so there were so many times where like you know you can rack up the tackles but it's about the context of the tackles. Like if you if you look at the amount of tackles he had with his back to the play, where he's chasing someone down instead of getting in front Okay, come on, what are we talking about?
Dutchie: It's it's not any different than C J Mosley, like when he was towards the end, like he was he was leading the team in tackles,
Matt: Yeah.
Dutchie: but they were the same deal. Like he wasn't like
Rizzi: Miss Vintage C J
Matt: They weren't
Rizzi: man.
Dutchie: I do.
Matt: But yeah, so I I j I just wrote down what?
Devy: Th there'd be like the tackle where he they're sorry, I was gonna say it's like the tackle where it's like it's like a forty-five yard gain and CJ Molsey like grabs him from the ankles and he's like beating his chest
Rizzi: Right, and he comes up by yeah.
Matt: Yes, exactly.
Dutchie: Yeah. Yeah, yes, yes, exactly, exactly. Yes. Yes, exactly.
Matt: Exactly, dude. Dude and that's what happened, that's what happened week two with Sherwood. Sherwood was completely turned around. Remember it was like the first drive of the game against the Bills week two and Allen had the
Rizzi: Josh Allen
Matt: fifty five yard run and Sherwood Sherwood made the tackle, but he he
Rizzi: Yeah, it was like third and ten.
Matt: was the one that completely left his assignment. But
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Matt: no but I was saying he ultimately might not be a fit for the defense, but They paid him. So you gotta you gotta
Rizzi: They have he they have to find a way to fit him in because they paid him.
Matt: not be a complete zero, but that's also
Rizzi: Right.
Matt: on the front office in the co like dude, like you paid the guy and he's y you can't find a spot
Rizzi: Hundred percent. Yeah.
Matt: or anyway. Maybe it's him, we don't know, but my lord.
Rizzi: Yeah. Yeah, Dutch.
Matt: It's in it's it's unmovable too. It's not even like, we can we can get rid of him, eat some money next year. It's straight up unmovable, so we better become somewhat serviceable. But yeah. But
Rizzi: Yeah. Dots what do you got?
Dutchie: I mean you guys pretty much touched on it all for secondary and
Devy: Yeah.
Dutchie: defense. I mean I don't know if you guys want to move on to offense at all or you have any other players one more? Go ahead. Go ahead.
Matt: I got one more I got one more defensive player. It was the biggest the biggest issue bes like I I said the biggest issue, but every single layer of the defense was the biggest issue. I have Tavandre Sweat.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: That's I said that's
Matt: Me too.
Devy: I should
Dutchie: That's like one of the ones where I forgot about like
Rizzi: Showing hours to hold it up.
Devy: Yeah, that's how she
Matt: I think he's he's on Alice two point But
Rizzi: Ha ha.
Matt: I think no, that's so important 'cause they they got gashed and like especially when Quinnan when Quinnen left they were just getting embarrassed and for this scheme to have like to run a to be running a three four you need it's so it's cliche and it just sounds like you don't even know what you're talking about, but you need the big dude in the middle. It's like for a a two gapping run defender, it's just so important the way they're gonna play this defense and I know he's had problems with like conditioning. He's like throwing up on the side
Devy: I don't know, so
Dutchie: Definitely.
Matt: of the field, coming off the field after one play. But if he's if he if he wants to stay healthy and you know, we we we've seen the good Tavandre sweat, so I think that's a massive swing for the team if if he's right.
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Devy: Yeah. It's actually I was the I was gonna say the same thing. Like as long as he stays
Rizzi: I
Devy: healthy, I don't think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be great for us. but the
Matt: Mm-hmm.
Devy: big thing is just to stay healthy. But honestly, again, you know, I think that it's also a a of that comes down to who you surrender to as far as coaching goes. You know what I mean? Like I don't
Matt: Right.
Devy: think that Glenn like I don't say a lot of the good things about Glenn, but I think the one thing that Glenn would do is that he'll make this guy commit and you know make that guy love football and make sure that he you know takes it seriously and I think that's what something that Aaron Glenn does do really well of is rallying those people to to commit and you know and and buy into everything. who knows what they're buying but I definitely think that like the situation in Tennessee LC is a little bit different. and I think that's
Dutchie: Yes, she said.
Devy: the same issue like that to kind of it's kind of interesting because I think that Salah in Tennessee it's it seems the same thing again kind of because I think that's just who he
Dutchie: Try
Devy: is as a person. You saw it becit it, they just let the guy just be a fat slob his entire time as a jet. You know what I mean? He went
Matt: Let him be an oath.
Devy: Sir Sarah awful. And then he goes to Philly, a legit coaching staff. They whip him with the shape, he plays and you know, he commits and he buys in there and he's good. And then he leaves, he goes to LA and it's the disaster again. So
Dutchie: We also got the the pro game. Don't miss the athletes on the software championship playing.
Matt: Still a free agent, by the way.
Devy: well he's not a right tackle, so or he is a right tackle.
Rizzi: still afraid. I I can't find the stat. I can't find the exact stat, but it was a it was a tweet about Sweat Animata and and Demario Davis being like top whatever in X X category there, top ten or top five in run defense. And I think
Devy: Was it the run was it the run defense rating of Madden?
Rizzi: No, it wasn't run defense rating and matted. it was something about how they're stout they're stout against their own.
Matt: Think so. Are you sure?
Devy: 'Cause 'cause are you sure? 'Cause Tamar Davis is top Tamara Davis is a top five top five rated linebacker in Madden this year. He's a ninety overall.
Rizzi: Top five rated linebacker overall.
Devy: It mattered.
Matt: Playoffs, playoffs.
Rizzi: Come on, baby. Britt knows what he's doing.
Devy: Dude, he's a ninety overall in Madden. I think he's our highest rated player
Dutchie: That's right. Number four.
Devy: in in Madden. He might be a superstar X Factor, which is pretty cool.
Matt: I think he is.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: These are the yeah, these are important things. His his his long the the dreads tackle you two with the X Factor. It's like the it's like the Yeah, Medusa, exactly.
Devy: Yeah. They d they're like he's a he's a producer.
Rizzi: Right. He d you turn the stone and looks at you.
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: His hair dude, his hair got so long. It's it's insanely long. I don't know, 'cause I g I was
Rizzi: You can eat cut it since he was with us.
Matt: thinking about that because he always had dreads. Or maybe not at the very beginning, but he he I I guess he hasn't cut them 'cause they they're long.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: He's so fresh. He's great, great dude,
Devy: Yeah, I'm I I I
Matt: I love him.
Devy: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited for him to be back. next on my on my list, because I don't know Dutch, you have offense also, I'm wondering if we're batching up here, but somebody that I'm this is a big year for him, and it's a big year. how it starts, how it plays out. Brees, this is this is huge. Like w what are you gonna do this year, dude? Like you ha it has to take that next level. I'm actually kinda glad Pipp's not here because we can have production. a productive conversation about Brees with Pipier.
Matt: I w you can't. You can't.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Dutchie: He might jump on in five minutes making this done here and he's gonna get available at ten, so we gotta
Devy: I I well I have to let him in still Yeah I wouldn't let him in probably not honestly.
Rizzi: Yeah. Dragon just w Dragon's knocking on it in. It's gonna be here.
Matt: Yeah, he's gonna he dude, he he heard he heard the
Devy: But it
Matt: Pip heard the w Pip heard the word breeze and he just levitated to his computer.
Rizzi: Is it usually me? Yeah.
Devy: But like but seriously though, like, you know, I think it's just a lot that he's back. I think it's just a lot about him too for staying. You know what I mean? Like I he was somebody like as a personality
Rizzi: More than awesome.
Devy: he would have gotten money somewhere else too, though. I don't think their jets were the only person that was gonna be giving him money.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: you know, it's not like he's the s the highest paid running back in the NFL by the Jets. You know what I mean? So like I
Rizzi: Right.
Devy: think he could've gotten that money somewhere else, especially
Rizzi: You think he's the highest paid running back, by the way Pip talks about it. anyway, yeah.
Dutchie: The way he the way he acts, yeah. Like it's like I
Devy: And the way he acts too. Yeah.
Dutchie: that's that's what I'm like when you're talking about Brees, that's what I'm interested in. I'm s I'm interested to see how he acts and how he kinda carries himself,
Rizzi: Yeah, can you stop acting like a child?
Dutchie: like I mean 'cause I mean
Devy: I
Dutchie: the the talent's there, no question. It's just like can you deal with his attitude day in, day out? It's brutal when it's not going well.
Matt: Mm-hmm.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: Yeah, I I'm I don't know why, like last year I wasn't surpr like surprised how he acted, like at all, honestly. Like it was just typical Brees. And like as the season unfolded.
Rizzi: It's a solemn opium.
Devy: Yeah. But he's like the only one from that regime that's like one of the biggest faces from that regime that's still around. That's like
Rizzi: Right.
Devy: Garrett Wilson. But Garrett is a completely different type personality. So
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Devy: I'm the Jets have to see a lot in him. I thought I was talent for him to be there and to be a part of this and he's gonna be a part of it moving forward if you know if he has a a pretty decent year here. So he's someone in order for for the offense to really take it to the next level, they really need him to kind of
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: be able to rely on like he needs to hold on to the ball.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: and honestly with the weapons in place, I think it's gonna open up the passing game for him little bit where, you know, he can flourish. You know, I don't think things went well with Rogers here in that sense of things. as much as they could have. So I'm I'm r intrigued to see kind of how that ends up with him
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: this year.
Rizzi: And that
Matt: Yeah.
Rizzi: that's one of the position groups I had written down and I I honestly am not worried about Brees. Like I think he's incredible. I think he'll be fine. There's so many weapons on the offense that I think it's gonna open up a lot for everyone. Like you can only you can only cover so much. And like if if if Brees
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Rizzi: if Brees is smothered one game, then it's gonna create room for Garrett. Which if Garrett's cover is gonna create room for Omar and Sadiq and A D, like I think there they'll be enough to go around for everyone, but I'm also interested in RB two battle. Like I have a lot of high I still have high hopes for Berlin Allen, even though he he blew up his knee last year and and he really wasn't he didn't he didn't really like I wasn't I wasn't loud by him, I wasn't impressed by him at all. But I think exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it was a year before that.
Devy: He had one good week. He had that good week in Tennessee. Actually no, that was the year before that too. Never mind. That was two
Matt: Yeah, it was two years ago.
Devy: years ago. Yeah.
Rizzi: And like he ha like he's a physical specimen. Like you're you're waiting for him to to kind of take the next step and I'm interested to see what happens to RB two. Is it gonna be him? Is it gonna be Isaiah Davis? Like you know Yeah. Yeah.
Dutchie: That's what I had written down, Roz. I had I had RB two written down. And I also think like 'cause I mean he had a rough little he had a rough patch last year. I kinda honestly forgot about him 'cause he got injured so early in the year. But I mean like
Rizzi: Yeah.
Dutchie: I think him and Brees both had one, like going into the end zone, fumbled on like what the two or the one yard line on
Rizzi: Amen.
Matt: Yep.
Dutchie: games like honestly like early in the year too. Like if we won those games, like who the hell knows? But like it just
Rizzi: Right.
Dutchie: made the year that much worse. And I think if he comes back and he looks Incredible start. I mean, like he y you said he's a specimen. He's huge. Like he's a bowling ball. Yeah.
Rizzi: Right. He's g he was getting Derek Henry comps in camp. Like
Dutchie: Like if you you look at his college highlights, man, like look at what he did in college. He's he's so b and he's still young. He's like he's like twenty three years old. Or twenty
Rizzi: Right.
Dutchie: four, right? He's the he's one of the youngest players ever drafted. So like
Devy: And with that too, it's like his style of running the knee injury isn't really something that's that much of a turn 'cause he's not really cutting and really doing as much as he Yeah, exactly.
Rizzi: Exactly, it's just a bulldozer.
Dutchie: Yeah, yeah. He's just Yeah, right.
Matt: He's gotta just he's gotta just play big.
Rizzi: Put his head yeah, put your head down and fucking
Dutchie: Right.
Rizzi: run through someone's face. Every week. Every week he should be
Devy: Yeah. That's that's that's
Matt: That's his problem.
Rizzi: he should be putting a a safety
Dutchie: And hold on to the ball.
Rizzi: on his ass. Run right through his chest.
Devy: Yeah, like he doesn't need to be he doesn't need to be explosive off of a cut like Bruce does. You know what I mean?
Rizzi: Fired up.
Devy: Like that that that that's different.
Matt: Bro, go be go be like Brandon Jacobs type.
Rizzi: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That
Dutchie: Yeah. With four points of contact.
Matt: You don't need to be you don't need to be finesse like catching the ball. Like
Dutchie: High and tight.
Matt: just change the mentality. Go ahead first. Go run people over, bro.
Rizzi: Right. You we
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: should not even think twice. Third and one, we are jamming it down your throat, and if we don't get it on third and one, we're gonna get it on fourth and one with him. No,
Matt: Dude, and it doesn't work. It makes no sense.
Rizzi: it doesn't. With our line I know
Dutchie: It's crazy. And the line's good too.
Matt: It makes no sense.
Rizzi: exactly. The line should be better, the interior should be a little bit better. So And that one two punch, like that change of pace between him and Brees should should be really nice. Could be really nice.
Matt: And I do I do wanna say, I just on the on the Brees point, I feel like I'm not like a negative Breeze person, I would say. But I feel like I've I've gone back, I've watched more like in the past week or so when I've fully when I'm I'm starting to like come back to the Jets a little bit. I was just riding the Knicks high as long as possible. But, you know, training camps this week, but I was just watching some brief I I I do wanna walk back some of the hate I've given 'cause he really is so good. Like he he has he has lost some of the lungs finishing speed which is a little annoying, but he makes he makes chicken salad out of chicken shit a lot, dude. A lot. And he's he's r a lot of chicken shit.
Rizzi: Nice saying, I'm gonna take that.
Dutchie: He gets fed a lot of chicken shit too.
Matt: He's like I mean, I I know we wanna see the attitude and everything, but he really is so good. And I I don't mean he's like
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: elite or anything, but he I feel like you should almost like I we wanna do this for for when Rogers came and Brees was three years younger, but like you kinda gotta play through him. Like he's
Rizzi: A hundred percent. Offensive.
Matt: like they never do. They never do.
Rizzi: No.
Matt: And I don't think they're going to this year, but you need to Let him be the life force of especially next year w and as you're like breeding the young quarterback, like you gotta play through him, dude.
Rizzi: Right. And you know, I I saw a tweet from Will Parkinson, Will Paul Eleven on Twitter. he was like week one should be nothing but screens against this solid defense. And over because you get the over pursuit from the linebackers and whatnot. Like the the it should run through Blease at least for week one. And it sh that should open up anything for the rest of the offense. And
Matt: Yeah.
Rizzi: you know what? If you are, you know, two thousand yards, however many touchdowns, and you are like you are the offense, I don't care about your attitude. I really don't. Like if you're if you're making an impact on the field, I'd give a fuck less of what you do off the field.
Matt: Yeah. Yeah, and I and I know it's hard for a you know, for a running back when you're when you're playing what what was the stat that just came out? They played sixty six snaps with the lead the whole season. When you're a running back, what are you doing with that, man? Especially
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: Yeah. Right.
Matt: when you have an anemic pass game. I just I think if there's some semblance of a good offense, I think he'll be he'll be back to you know, top ten in the league. He already is, but I just I think You know, when you when you remove yourself from the heat of the games and stuff and you go back and and you watch, if you look at like all twenty two from the offense's POV, he really he really just makes things happen. Even when he's scrapping for for more yards, like when he's getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage and
Rizzi: Yeah, he's so shifty, man.
Matt: he gets another three yards, like that stuff goes unnoticed when you're in a game.
Rizzi: He's so shifty.
Matt: So shifty, he's so smooth in the receiving game, like on the swing passes and the screens, but I just think you you kinda gotta play through him and figure it out from there. That's just I wanted to put that out there. I do wanna walk back some of the negative things I've said in the past year. I appreciate it. Brees, yeah
Devy: Thank you for doing that, I'm sure that
Rizzi: That's big of you, that's big of you. Thank you for your service.
Dutchie: Mm-hmm. That's huge.
Matt: if you wanna
Devy: I'm I'm sure
Matt: Brees, if you wanna send us a super chat 'cause we're live right now.
Rizzi: What?
Devy: la last thing I
Rizzi: go ahead that.
Devy: I I was thinking that we can dive into. let's talk a little about week one predictions, realistic
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: predictions, not 47 looking chests. Yeah, I mean like real realistic predictions, win or loss. I think I'll I'll kick it off. Obviously we've spoken a lot about how this is it might this is the biggest game of the season. They have to win this game. No matter how they win it, they have to win it.
Rizzi: It's the Super Bowl for both of these teams.
Devy: Yeah, like they have to win this game. I personally think it's gonna be a low scoring game. I think it's gonna be it's one of those d games that you know it's gonna be ridiculously hot in Nashville. It's gonna be like ninety-five degrees on that turf. It didn't seem to like one ten, it's gonna be brutal. Y you know that you know they're
Rizzi: Yeah. It's gonna be bacon. Yeah.
Dutchie: Cubid. It's gonna be humid, it's gonna be fog the whole nine, yeah, yeah.
Devy: gonna be wearing the Peter Griffins.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: it's a hundred percent gonna be wearing the Peter Griffins. And
Matt: my god.
Devy: my prediction
Rizzi: I won't Tennessee might choose to wear white if it's hot. If it's
Devy: Huh?
Rizzi: that hot. Tennessee might choose to wear white if it's that hot.
Devy: Yeah, but they got they got new jerseys though. They might want to show off the new home jerseys. They'll
Rizzi: Yeah, true.
Devy: like they'll like they
Dutchie: They're one hundred percent going with those baby blues, there's no doubt about it. They have to be. There's one hundred percent. Yeah. We need to go
Rizzi: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah.
Devy: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they they they they a hundred percent are. but
Matt: Mm.
Dutchie: all white.
Rizzi: Come out wall white and just fucking beat the brakes off. That's true. Yeah.
Devy: I don't think they're gonna go all white just because they're going all white the week two. So like I don't
Dutchie: Shah.
Devy: think they're gonna too.
Matt: my god, the Peter Griffins, bro.
Dutchie: If we're two and all white, we're in white all year, boys, right?
Rizzi: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Devy: It's gonna Peter Griffin's I they might just do the white on black again. It will look so stupid with with it'd be so st
Dutchie: Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: The green on white on black.
Devy: it'd be so stupid with the with like this
Matt: You'd look absolutely horrible.
Devy: horrible. But
Rizzi: All right.
Devy: you know, it didn't match the last time either, and they still did it, and they they got hot. They were hot on the white on black. And then the one game they switched to was the black on black against New England and they lost. So Yeah, so.
Matt: Yep. Let's talk let's let's not talk about that.
Rizzi: Against the Pats. Yeah, that's not open old wounds here.
Devy: But but my I'm thinking week one, I do think that they win. but I think it's like one of those nineteen sixteen games, seventeen,
Rizzi: What?
Devy: sixteen, as a dog fight. but that's if they win. If they lose, if they end up losing I think they end up losing like twenty-seven no no no I'm gonna say like twenty twenty-four fourteen, but like it's
Dutchie: Dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke capital is not for dementia or physicosis. Well, you're not your body cell mood changes, or suicidal thoughts right away. Antidepenses may increase these
Devy: It gets just gets out of hand late type of thing. Like it's like it's like an awful game until late or something like that.
Dutchie: risks. I think I think it'll be a good game. I really do. Like I mean the last year we started out against the Steelers, fucking Rogers, and it like ended up it was like one of like it was an incredible football game. I don't think the Steelers scored that many points the rest of the year in a game. Could we
Devy: Yeah, well we certainly didn't, so
Rizzi: Yeah, we need to make it.
Dutchie: we certainly didn't no chance, yeah, exactly. But like I mean we almost won that game and the Steelers ended up did they make the playoffs last year? I don't did they? I don't they
Matt: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Dutchie: did? Yeah.
Rizzi: Yeah, they did. And then they it was an atrocious game against the Texans.
Devy: Yeah, they got it. Absolutely.
Dutchie: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay. All right.
Matt: Bro, the that was dude, that game was seven
Rizzi: She's gonna try to try to give the game away, but what they want.
Matt: that game was seven six like midway through
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: the fourth quarter and it ended thirty to
Rizzi: It was hard-ending.
Matt: six.
Rizzi: Yeah, there I think the Texans
Dutchie: Yep, yep. All right.
Rizzi: scored like two or three defensive scores. That's when I was
Matt: Yeah.
Rizzi: on the I was I was on that taking the Texas defensive score the whole year, and that was the one game I didn't they had three touchdowns. One thing I would say
Dutchie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well
Rizzi: about the sorry, go ahead.
Dutchie: No, it but just my point on that was just like I think that I think Glenn kinda knows how important it is. I think I think it they'll be ready for it. And I think the same for Tennessee, I Salah knows how important it is, I think they'll be ready for it. I think it will be a good game, I think it'll be close game, like you said, low scoring. I do think we end up winning though. boy do I hope so.
Rizzi: Boy do I hope so. and you know
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: what? Like going back to Salah's last to Salah's tenure with us and a lot of first year coaches, the defense is not always in sync that week one. The team itself is not always in sync. Think of how bad the solid defense was year one with us. And granted he's he probably he's learned from his mistakes. I'm sure the I haven't really looked at the depth chart for the Titans, but I'm sure their defense is a heck of lot better on paper than we were going into that first year. But I wouldn't be surprised if our offense look looks good. We score some points. let's not forget this is gonna be game eighteen in Cam Ward's career with the new OC. You know, I I am will not be surprised if we win that game like twenty seven to ten. So that's why I'm
Matt: Would I would I be surprised if they win? No. Do I think they're gonna win? No. I just I have the whole vision of that day in my head. Like I see I see the uniform matchup. I see the really, really early Carnell Tate up the seam first career touchdown, and then the Jets are playing from behind the whole game. They lose like twenty three seventeen, twenty three twenty, something like that. on a last second field goal and you get the sideline shot of Salah like Hugging hugging an assistant coach, you're hugging like Sal Thomas and Tony Adams or something, and that's and that's it. And then we go on to
Rizzi: A bit.
Matt: go on to Green Bay. But that's just that's my vision of how the d how the game's gonna go. I don't I don't have real
Dutchie: Now, let me ask you this question. Do you
Matt: intel right now. I just see the
Dutchie: Let let me ask you this, Matt. Do you do you see Ponds starting his career off with a pick six?
Matt: He could. I could see
Rizzi: D'accord.
Matt: if I could see them getting I could see them getting on the board with the pick six early, like get the get the streak out of the way. But I would I will guarantee my life one of those schmucks that he brought over, like a Tony Adams, a Solomon Thomas, Jerma like one of those guys. Yeah, JFM's there, Jermaine's there. Dude, there's and
Rizzi: Cody Adams, man. JFM? Is J is JFM back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jameen coming
Dutchie: Yes. Yes.
Devy: Yeah, JFM's are.
Rizzi: off the edge and just decapitating.
Matt: There's g no, there's going to there one of I don't know if it's a pick. Someone's recovering or forcing a f one of those guys is is going to create a turnover or
Dutchie: 16th the polar stay for Tom Campbell is short electricity.
Matt: recover a turn something. They're doing and th there's no way it doesn't play out like that. And I don't know who it's gonna be, but it's gonna happen.
Dutchie: Gino fumbles at like even odds that game, I think. There'll be one of those. Like
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Matt: Dude, Gino Gino fumbles
Dutchie: one like when he's about to just unload down the fi like there's gonna be one of those ball out of the hand backwards. Like yeah.
Matt: Yeah. Germ Germain
Rizzi: the end of the half.
Matt: Germain Scoop and S
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: Dude, yeah. You you could just see like the Germaine Scoop and score running thirty yards and
Rizzi: Come on, let's come on, let's be positive here. It hasn't happened yet.
Matt: I I have I don't got it in me, man. I'll be pa I'll be positive
Dutchie: I I agree with what you said though.
Matt: I'll be positive January of twenty twenty seven.
Dutchie: Roz, I I d I do agree with what you said.
Rizzi: So when we're going in we're when we're when we're hosting when we're hosting we're hosting the Patriots in the divisional round. Exactly.
Matt: Yes. We're hosting the Patriots in the divisional round after the bye. Yes. Mm-hmm.
Dutchie: But Ros, what you said is right, like the defenses do start off slow. And I was I was actually listening to part of my take with Bob Sala on the show and he said like if if if the offense
Rizzi: Yeah. I'm listening to it.
Matt: Ha ha.
Dutchie: he's like if the offense makes a mistake it's second and ten. If we make a mistake, it's a touchdown. And like the defense
Rizzi: Exactly.
Dutchie: tends to make a lot of mistakes week one. So like it could be
Rizzi: What's a new coaching stuff?
Dutchie: with the new coach staff, it could be a high scoring game. Cam Ward, like you said, eighteenth game, so I don't know.
Rizzi: Exactly. Come on here.
Dutchie: Gino like been in league for thirteen years, whatever the hell it is. Yeah. Yeah.
Rizzi: She was she goes a wily, wily grizzled veteran.
Devy: That's if you mix it with that being in prison, Bobby Khan.
Rizzi: If he's yeah, if he's le if he get if you can say out of some legal trouble here. We hey we a we asked we asked for criminals.
Dutchie: Yeah. Can someone get him a driver like Tiger Woods or something like that? Like we gotta get this guy this guy a driver, fuck.
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: We a yeah, we asked for criminals on defense, not the qu
Devy: We did extra criminals.
Matt: not the quarterback.
Rizzi: Right, right. That's true.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: That's a good point.
Devy: That's true. That is true. That is true. It's like
Rizzi: Now we
Matt: No, he's a good boy. He's a good boy.
Devy: it's like it's like that movie it's like the movie obsession when they're he's making a wish and like he's like, I wish I'm
Matt: I wish
Devy: I wish I was rich and it's like and then that like I don't have to work anymore and he gets a phone call and he's Hey, just want to let you know that you're fired He goes, shit. And by the way, you're going by Rich now.
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Matt: Yeah.
Devy: That sounds like the Jazz wishing for a criminal on the team.
Matt: Yeah, we're gonna yeah, we're gonna I use the one wish willow for to wish for criminals and then our franchise quarterback that we draft is gonna get eight DUIs before training camp and go to jail for life.
Devy: Yeah, easily.
Rizzi: Yeah. Also we we could we could maybe save us for next week, but the two things we didn't touch on I had written down was the tight end room. I am very excited
Matt: Yeah, I had that too.
Rizzi: to see the tight end room. I think ultimately Sadiq's gonna be tight end one and then it's gonna be between Taylor and Rocker.
Dutchie: Slash wide receiver.
Rizzi: Tight end slash wider seed, that's right. And if I
Matt: I think I think Mason's way better than than Rocker.
Rizzi: A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Like it it's gonna be the depth chart should read it should read Sadiq, Taylor,
Dutchie: Good defin.
Matt: Well.
Rizzi: and then Rocket.
Dutchie: Fucking damn it.
Devy: I fucking hate Rockert dude. He's like he's
Rizzi: Yeah.
Devy: such a make a wish kid. Like there's no reason for him to be on a football team anymore. Like it was a cool story to start.
Rizzi: I almost would rather have stone smart.
Devy: I f honestly forgot it was one smart.
Matt: Don't smart remember
Rizzi: But
Matt: remember when he lo remember when he laid out Abdul Carter last year in the preseason?
Devy: Yeah, put put on his ours.
Rizzi: Yes, yes. And then the and then the next thing I had we could save next week, but Seth Ryan. Passing any coordinator.
Matt: I knew when you said it when you
Devy: I forgot about that.
Matt: said a coach, I was gonna bet my fucking life you were gonna say R Set Ryan.
Rizzi: And like sure, Frank Reich, he's archaic, he's old, whatever, but can Seth Ryan can this can in in a in a in a positive world, can he not be a make a wish hire? Can he be can it not just be it's Rex Ryan's son? Can it be he's actually very innovative and he brings a lot to the passing game and we an offense
Matt: I think so.
Rizzi: Our offense actually looks like a modern a modern passing offense. And I think, you know, Frank Rank's old enough, he's smart enough that he will take advice from anywhere and kind of delegate and he's not gonna be stubborn. I and and he knows this is it, this is the last shot. So I think I think I have a lot of hope, no surprise to anyone, but I have a lot of hope for our offense. And I think Seth Ryan is gonna be interesting and play a big role.
Devy: I can ag I agree with that. I don't think he's gonna make it wish higher at all just because I think like if Rex if Rex was there yeah, I mean if if Rex if Rex was there then I'd say it's a lot of a different story but
Rizzi: No, and it comes from the Lions offense. Right. And it comes from one
Matt: Me either.
Rizzi: of the most innovative offenses in the league the last few years. So
Devy: Yeah, yeah. I actually forgot about that hires. That's a that's a good poll. I think that's
Rizzi: I think like I'm gonna miss Tanner. I I like Tanner. I didn't want him to get fired. I don't think he d I don't think he deserved to get fired.
Devy: yeah, honestly, I don't think he deserved the
Dutchie: What
Devy: afford either, but I think a lot of it has to do with him and his personality. I just don't think I think
Dutchie: is the thousands on your next home?
Devy: he was honestly kind of like a bitch about it and he just like think it's got hard and he just didn't want to deal with it. That's the story that I look at it. And he ended up back in Detroit, didn't he?
Rizzi: Yeah. And listen, did he go back to no
Matt: No, he's he's in it he's in Atlanta.
Rizzi: he's in Atlanta, which I think sneaky, that can be a pretty decent team, but I I
Devy: he's Hallana. That's that's yeah.
Rizzi: like Stefansky a lot.
Dutchie: Is i is Albert still down there too? Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Matt: Yeah, he's in D C. They kept him.
Devy: E yeah. Yeah. Stop fantasy.
Rizzi: He's a DC w and Stefanski's the head coach.
Matt: Yeah, but dude, their their quarterbacks Penix and and Tua.
Rizzi: The quarterback room is harannous, but the rest of their team I actually kinda like.
Devy: to be honest to be honest though,
Matt: Me too.
Dutchie: that's right. my god.
Devy: if Tua if Tua stays healthy and they run a similar type of offense like they did of Miami, they'll be fine. He's just gonna say.
Rizzi: Yeah, yeah. They can win my
Matt: I just I just would rather
Rizzi: division.
Matt: I
Dutchie: I'm the biggest
Matt: I would
Dutchie: two a hater you ever find in your entire life. I fucking cannot stand that guy.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: I would I would rather take a razor and scrape my eyes off than watch a two
Rizzi: Mm-hmm.
Matt: offense. I don't care if they're good, if like such such a horrendous watch.
Dutchie: my god, it's so bad.
Rizzi: Well like for those couple of weeks where we didn't know what we were going to do at quarterback and his name was surfacing off there, like dude as optimistic as I am,
Matt: I was rooting for it
Rizzi: as optimistic as I am, I I probably would have been right on the far other side with Pip. Honestly.
Devy: I would have been so fucking happy if they got Tua.
Matt: I would have died if they got to it, dude. I would have
Devy: It would have been so funny, bro. Every
Matt: laughed so hard. We would have all been on the tank wave, it would have been beautiful.
Rizzi: We wouldn't all be we would all be on the same side, I think.
Devy: I think I'd be on the Super Bowl wave.
Matt: Ha.
Devy: I love Tua. I actually love Tua. I I I actually love Tua. Yeah. And it honestly
Rizzi: No. Wait, actually my God.
Matt: So ass
Devy: a large part of it has to be because of Tom Basallo, he's a Dolphins fan. And it just like we was do we play the Jets Finns games and like Tua just line this up and we would just be the funniest thing ever. And it's just fin it was just Finns up because of Tua.
Rizzi: Can I? Yeah?
Devy: But but I I like to it. I think that quarterback room is
Matt: Benz
Devy: hilarious in Atlanta.
Rizzi: Let's pull on Frank to Tank and see what he thinks.
Devy: Yeah, Frank Tank the he can win a Super
Matt: Yeah, let's talk let's talk with Tang.
Devy: Bowl and Frank to Tank would still hate him.
Rizzi: Yeah. Yeah.
Devy: but that quarterback room is hilarious. Pennington Tua.
Matt: So funny.
Rizzi: That is the start I wonder who's
Dutchie: So good.
Rizzi: gonna be the like third stringer?
Devy: Two lefties who two lefties I can't throw.
Matt: Yeah, Penix is gonna Pennyx is gonna run a No, Pennis can throw,
Rizzi: Yeah.
Matt: he's just he's just running around on peg legs.
Dutchie: It's it's
Rizzi: Okay.
Dutchie: levels they can't throw and are like they they could get hurt at any sec like they're like like they're
Rizzi: Right.
Dutchie: so injury prone.
Devy: Yeah, it's I mean that that should be the box division pretty
Dutchie: Like every every time they take off and run, as you're if you're a Falgas fan, you're holding your breath.
Rizzi: So the third wait, ready for this, the third streamer is Trevor Simeon.
Devy: God bro. He'll be start he'll be started by
Dutchie: God.
Matt: Jesus Christ.
Devy: before it.
Dutchie: geez.
Matt: Here you go, B Bijan Drake London. Here's two
Rizzi: Right.
Matt: Peg Leg and Trevor Simeon for you. I'm glad I'm glad
Devy: I'm assuming.
Matt: we wrapped I'm glad we wrapped this episode up talking shit about the Atlanta Falcons. Just where I thought this would go.
Devy: I'm assuming two is gonna s he's gonna start. Right?
Rizzi: I'm scared to do back though.
Matt: Yeah, he'll start. Mm-hmm.
Devy: Yeah.
Dutchie: I would assume so, but
Matt: I'm gonna laugh my ass off watching that game. I can't wait for it.
Devy: real quick with the last two minutes here, something that I wanted to just like show light on. AFC East, obviously I think the Dolphins are gonna be fucking awful. I think that's a given. I don't think there's they're gonna be so bad. Like,
Matt: They're gonna be so bad.
Devy: so bad.
Dutchie: Sold that.
Devy: I'm very New England I don't think it's nearly as good. I think I think they Yeah.
Dutchie: No, I think they're really bad.
Rizzi: Whatever wind toy is take the under. Fucking they suck.
Devy: I don't think they're gonna be good. I think it's gonna be the their schedule is terrible. and then Diana Rossini and all that all that going on over there.
Rizzi: Mike Vrotal's gonna be thinking about getting up in them Russini guts. Not worried about football.
Devy: Yeah, he said he's in me thinking
Dutchie: Yeah.
Matt: Dude, he's he's he's lucky he he's lucky he had her, he would have lost the challenge.
Rizzi: Right. Me and Tutchi
Devy: D
Rizzi: were talking about this was it yesterday or two days ago? Like if this was i if if we fired Sala when we wanted to before the start of that's that the second Rogers year and we hired Vable,
Dutchie: my god. my yes.
Rizzi: well this would have like he would have the he would have been walked out of the facility in handcuffs by Roger Goodell if he was our
Matt: Yes.
Rizzi: head coach. But because he's a Patriots coach, it'll be a
Dutchie: The the story wouldn't be about them. It'd be about how incompetent the Jets are. It would have nothing
Matt: Yep.
Dutchie: to do with with Vrabel and Racini. The like the way it's talking right now,
Rizzi: Right, right. But because it's the past.
Devy: A hundred percent.
Dutchie: it's all about Vrabel and Racini. Nothing about the Pads. If it was the Jet it'd be they wouldn't even mention her name.
Rizzi: Right. And let's not let's not forget like Robert Kraft got busted for getting sought off at a massage parlor like every week. So like the fact
Dutchie: Yeah.
Rizzi: that they get a this organization gets away with it is fucking ridiculous. And but the reckoning is coming. It's coming this year. They're gonna go fucking five and twelve.
Matt: 'cause he's you know it's it's because he's friends with Benjamin Netanyahu, that's why.
Rizzi: And folks seven that's very
Matt: The Mossad's gonna come for me.
Devy: And then the next the other team is Buffalo I think Buffalo is gonna be like they're gonna be I think mediocre. I don't like it. I don't like the I don't
Rizzi: Well Buffalo. Well, Joe Brady, first time head coach? I don't know, man. I'm saying, man.
Devy: I don't like the the firing there. I don't like the off season moves that they made.
Matt: Dude.
Rizzi: No. Who would tell wide receiver one?
Matt: DJ Moore, here you go.
Devy: Did you more?
Rizzi: And he's not and he's not a wide receiver one.
Devy: No, he's
Matt: There you go.
Devy: he's terrible. but if things go south, that's
Matt: I
Devy: that's number one guy on my list is Sean McDermott.
Rizzi: Josh can play knew a ball enough, but their defense without McDermott might not be good.
Matt: I could well they have Jim Leonard, but I I could
Rizzi: Yeah, but you know. Now now now he's dead to me. Now it is with the Bills.
Matt: There's there's no executive well, I slander Brian like Devin, you know, like I I rip on Brian Cashman every opportunity I get. There's no executive that I genuinely hate and sports more than Brandon Bean. The fact that he survived that and they and they
Rizzi: He's such a rat fuck.
Matt: blamed it on Sean McDermott, I could go on a rant about that. But it's it's good for us that that happened, but
Devy: Shaw Sean McDermott.
Matt: my god. I I don't even I don't even want to get into it 'cause I'd go on for a half hour.
Devy: Shaw McDermott coach the Jets next year, opening night
Matt: Mm-hmm.
Devy: on 9-11. That's gonna be electric.
Rizzi: No, no.
Matt: Yes, yes. I would I dude, I'm d I would be all the way in if they hired him. All the way in.
Devy: Imagine the pre game speech that he's gonna give that night.
Rizzi: No.
Matt: All the way in. He'd be like, Listen, twenty five years ago, you remember what we did?
Rizzi: Let's not change anything out.
Dutchie: You Roz, what were we talking we were talking about KOC
Devy: Hmm.
Dutchie: potentially if he has a shit year? If if he has a shit also Also
Rizzi: It's gotta be KO C like if if
Matt: No, it's he's not going anywhere.
Dutchie: this this is just your reminder, put your bets in for Kyler Murray MVP right now with with KOC and if it's put your put your bets in right now.
Rizzi: Yo get out of town, get out of here. Bright and Pip get him off the street.
Devy: No, I I had the recipe. I had I had the recipe. Here we go.
Dutchie: Yeah.
Devy: K K K O C next year, Sean McDermott D C
Matt: No dude, they're hiring
Rizzi: Will you take a DC job well? Bring bring over B4 with them.
Matt: The Jets are gonna the Jets are gonna be in the position to draft the fourth best quarterback in the for in the first round. And it is going and Sean McDermott's gonna come here, rebuild the team, try to get his vengeance against Buffalo. As long as he hires a good offensive coordinator to coddle our our our little boy. That sounds crazy. Coddle our little boy is insane. Cut
Rizzi: No. That's crazy.
Matt: that out, Devin. But I'm kidding. You don't have to. Yeah, I know you I know you don't. I know you don't. I know you don't.
Devy: Anything out. I just let it all roll.
Rizzi: But we're talking about our division. Okay.
Matt: Hoddle that little boy. There's gonna be a I'm gonna be on a fucking federal watch list for that.
Rizzi: Talking about our division and saying how mid talking about our division
Devy: But if it's but if it's Dante Moore, shoot him in the head.
Rizzi: talking about how mid how mid it's gonna be. Fucking ten seven, nine and eight, eleven and six is gonna win a division and it's gonna be us. Why I I
Matt: It's not gonna be mid. I th I
Devy: Alright, let's end it on that part.
Rizzi: I this you can't sit here and
Dutchie: Ha ha.
Rizzi: tell me the Patriots are gonna go thirteen and four again. Alright, well s see you guys next, right?
Devy: Let's wrap it on that note. We're gonna be here all night. Let's wrap it on that
Matt: I still I still
Dutchie: We we we could literally go all night with this. This is unbelievable.
Matt: I think I still think
Devy: note.
Rizzi: I could go all night, but we're almost at an hour. I don't know w the sponsors that
Matt: Yeah,
Devy: Yeah.
Matt: I don't I don't know about I don't know about playoff
Rizzi: we don't have, I don't know how long they know this from.
Matt: I don't know about playoff success, but I think Buffalo finds their way to twelve thirteen wins in the regular season. Yeah, right.
Rizzi: Josh Allen to hero ball again, but that only lasts for so long. Alright, folks. Alright, fellas. What an episode back, hey?
Devy: Wrap it up, wrap it up. Alright, guys. G what
Dutchie: Mm-hmm.
Matt: Put a bow on it.
Devy: what an episode back. Good episode back. Excited for training camp this weekend.
Rizzi: Yeah.
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