ONLY BOMBS! 32: Kimberly Koester | The Sacrifice, the Stage & the Comedy Addiction

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To the podcast, where we blow up all the jokes,
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detonate another bomb blast with every episode
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of Pop, soda pop, pop, pop, baby. It's your show.
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You do whatever you want. All right. I got on
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Kill Tony again. I don't know if you remembered
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that. You knew that. Oh. I just got on. Oh, my
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God. Like a month ago. A month ago. I think I
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did see it. Because you got a big joke book.
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He said how much he loves you. Yes. And everything.
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Yes. And oh, wait, I forgot what they're talking
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about. But I remember they were kind of like,
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they're bringing up like the same shit, I think,
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weren't they? You know, me being a cougar. Yeah,
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all that. Yeah. You get that every time, don't
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you? I do. Yeah. That's crazy. I know. I think
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so, too. How do you feel about that, like, when
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the whole Cougar thing? Well, it's flattering.
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It's flattering? I mean, you know, I'm 55 years
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old, so that people think I'm still fuckable
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is, I guess, nice. Yeah. I mean, I could, yeah,
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I could look really old, so it's a compliment.
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Yeah. I mean... I do look old, but, you know,
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fuckably old. No, you look better than... most
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55 year olds to be honest with you like seriously
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like you know it is weird when you get in your
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50s you you look at other 50 year olds and it's
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like do i look like that you know it yeah i i
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went back to my hometown and um someone from
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my high school was like hey kimberly i'm like
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who in the hell is that old guy and then i realized
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he was someone really cool from high school oh
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wow yeah didn't recognize him at all Oh, I'm
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just now getting into that, you know, because
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I turned 41. And so I'm just now starting to
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see that because I'll see people and I'll be
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like, oh my gosh, like this dude's got to be
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like 50 some of that. And then they're like,
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oh no, I'm 40 years old. And I'm like, do I look
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like that? Yeah, I think everyone past like the
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age of 38, you can't, you know, you can't tell
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anyone's age. No. Because some people look really
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good and some people do not. No, no. Starts to
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catch up with you. Yeah, there was something
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else. I forgot. Like I said, my little slate
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gets wiped clean. But there was something else
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I think my sister and I were talking about. And
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there was somebody that they were referring to.
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that was like, oh, I think they just passed away.
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And they were like 51. And they were like, oh,
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they were so old. And I was like, asshole. That's
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like 10 years older than I am. Like, it's not
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that old. Yeah. I remember in high school, one
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of our classmates died in a car accident. And
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we were all sitting around after the funeral.
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And one of my friends is like, oh, my god, that's
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so young. 17 is so young. 30 is even young. And
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I remember at the time thinking, well, is it
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though? Right. Yeah. Of course, 30 is young.
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Yeah. Now you're kind of like, I mean, I look
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back at it and I'm like, even people who are
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in their early 30s, I'm like, oh yeah, they're
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young. Yeah. They're young. Because I mean, I
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think what it is too is a lot of the life experience
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that you get and when you start actually like
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learning about life. Yeah. It's a, I think, you
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know, you go through like your 20s and you're
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sort of figuring yourself out. You're not really
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thinking about life in general. And then you
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get older and you start thinking about life.
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Right. Yeah. You know, what I, I have, I have
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sons in their twenties and I feel like Gen Z
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though is so much more savvy than I ever was
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in my twenties. And it's because of technology,
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but like, I didn't know what a narcissist was
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until I was like 40, you know? And my son and
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I talk about the characteristics of narcissism
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and, you know, all these things that they can
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research. I had, I had encyclopedias. The Britannica.
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Yeah. Always missing volumes. Yeah. And three
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channels. I didn't know anything back then. Yeah.
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I kind of grew up the same way. Only had just,
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I don't know. I think there was like four channels
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that I watched. and one of them being Comedy
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Central from way back in the day. But nowadays,
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even on my Samsung TV, there's thousands of channels
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that they just give you. I don't even watch it.
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Because how can you even discover anything? Yeah.
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There's too many choices. Yeah. But you're right
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about Gen Z, about that. Because they have everything
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at their fingertips. Yeah. I love that generation.
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I love Gen Z's. They're just, I don't know. Aside
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from the tech savviness, is there like another
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kind of... I don't know. They're just kind. They're
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really kind people. Yeah. You know, when I first
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moved here, I worked in a salon and my two best
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friends, my two best coworkers were 21 and 23.
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And we would just sit and have conversations
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all the time. And, you know, it was like, we
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just... I don't know. They're just so fun to
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bullshit with. But then, you know, you're a millennial,
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so I won't talk too badly about you, but millennials
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and boomers are very similar to each other. I
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feel like maybe they take things more seriously.
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I don't know. But then you have Gen X and Gen
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Z, and we're just, in my opinion, kind of just
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bullshitters. I don't know. Yeah, in an odd way,
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I still don't even know what the hell the millennial
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thing is. Like, I'm learning the Gen Z because
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just because of just conversations I have with
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people, you know, a buddy of mine, Scott and
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I, we were just talking about Gen Z and we were
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talking about like how they're going to be like
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the next, you know, I was like, can you imagine
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these guys like as like spec ops, you know, like
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like Navy SEALs or some shit. And then we just
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went off on this whole thing about, like, yeah,
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they're going to be pulling up in helicopters
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with, like, lights and, like, lasers. It's going
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to be, like, bumping, like, a pink rope. Yeah,
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yeah. Well, I have a theory, you know, because
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my kids played the damn Xbox all the time. And
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it's like, I wonder if the government is training
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them to be soldiers, because they're sitting
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in the room for hours killing people. It's like,
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they got really good at it. Yeah, they get really
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good at it. That was basically the wrap up of
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the story. Like we said, some people think that,
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you know, they're a bunch of pussies, but I'm
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like, watch them actually be like fucking bad
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ass. They're like, watch them just straight like
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slay, you know, and like it's nothing, you know?
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It's like, they're just submerged in all this
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like technology and violence and it's just like
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given all at once. I've heard what comes out
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of their mouths when they're in those rooms or
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whatever. Jesus. Yeah, it's bad. It should be
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illegal. Yeah, suck my ass, you cock -sucking
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piece of shit. I have a joke about that. Yeah.
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In my joke, I say, and this actually happened,
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and my son and I laughed about this so hard the
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other night. When he was in middle school, he
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came downstairs and he was crying, and it was
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because his friends were being really mean to
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him on the Xbox. Oh, really? Which is really
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embarrassing. But I went up there and put his
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headset on. And I'm like, boys, someone's being
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mean on the game. And I just hear, what the fuck?
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And in my joke, you know, I talk about being
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a cool mom, which obviously that's not a cool,
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but my son is like, God, I was such a chud. I'm
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such a chud. Oh, man, I love that chud. I know.
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You're savvy with all the terms now. I am. Yeah.
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Well, that's because I work with those 20 -year
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-old girls. They taught me all the, you know.
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So you're like getting in there, right? Yeah.
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Oh my gosh. So when you were their age, how did
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you look at older people? Oh, I hated them. I
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was scared of old people. Right? Yeah, because
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I thought they were going to go off on me at
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any moment, you know? They probably would have.
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They probably would have, yeah. That's because
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it was a different generation. It was. Those
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would have been the, what are they, the greatest
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generation, the war people. Right, yeah. My uncle,
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one of my great uncles, he used to like, Like,
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I used to always get, like, the hairs in the
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back of my head standing up, because he would
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just walk by and just slap me in the back of
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the head for no fucking reason at all. But every
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time he came by, I was like, oh, you know, just
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waiting for it, and it never happened. You know?
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Yeah. They were the generation that would just
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straight up go, well, that's a stupid question.
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Why are you stupid? You know? They were mean.
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They were mean. They wouldn't explain nothing
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to you. No. because they would just be like,
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you need to learn it yourself. And it's like,
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I don't know what I don't know, asshole. Yeah,
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that made us even dumber. We didn't have tech,
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well, they probably didn't know either. That's
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probably why they didn't explain anything. Yeah,
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that's the cold hard truth. They had no fucking
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clue. No, no. Yeah, but nowadays, if I just randomly
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slap somebody in the back of the head, it's like
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jail. Just fucking jail. Right off the bat. They
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were like, you abuse children, you're going to
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jail. You can't even threaten anyone anymore.
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No, no. You can't even like, I'm going to punch
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you in the face. It's like, damn, dude. Yeah,
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you can't say shit. You can't do anything. You
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can't move, you know. You got to be careful.
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Be careful these days. Yeah, this new generation,
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like this, I guess like the brand new people,
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because I'm right there. This new generation
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of comedians and everything. And I'm one of them.
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I've only been in it like three years now. Yeah,
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but you're not a newbie anymore. No, no. There
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is kind of like an evolution. Yeah. And I'm starting
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to notice the evolution. And from talking with
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a lot of the other comedians who have been in
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for like a year, things like that, I kind of
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find myself telling them like, oh yeah, I remember
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when I used to do that. Yeah. And it's kind of
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like growing up. There's an evolution to it.
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But you always hear about these guys who drop
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everything, and they're living in their cars,
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and they're not dreaming responsibly. And I know
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we kind of touch base on almost like the addiction.
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It is an addiction. It's like, I mean, I've never
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done heroin, but I've heard it's a lot like heroin
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because when you get that first big laugh, like
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when you're in a great room and you get that
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serious, solid laugh and the adrenaline hits
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your body, you chase that. And then you want
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an even bigger laugh next time. And, you know,
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you just want that high and you just chase after
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it and you'll do anything to get it. You'll drive
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three hours for 10 minutes at the time. Um, and
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then on the other side of it, when you get the
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bomb, you know, you want to kill yourself. And
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bombs. But no, it's, it's the truth though. It
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is the truth. I actually, I'm fortunate enough
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to have had, I was filming my first big laugh.
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And so I got like to see like the look on my
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face and you could see like the pure shock. Like
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I was like, I was like, what the? You guys can
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do that? Do you remember your first big laugh?
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Actually, I do. I was on stage at ComedyWorks
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in Denver, which is an amazing room. This was
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like new talent sign up. I have it too. It's
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on my Instagram. Yeah, the big laugh and then
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I stop and I go, thank you. I feel that. I totally
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feel that. And I didn't even walk to my car.
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I just like floated. My feet did not touch the
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ground. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. Because
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I'm pretty sure that night, because this is back
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when they had Dogwood. I don't know if you ever
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went to Dogwood. Just a little bar, but I used
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to love the mic that they did. And it was right
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around the corner from tiniest. Oh, okay. So
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you could sign up at Tiniest and you know you're
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going to be a while. So you can go do Dogwood
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and come back for your set in Tiniest. And it
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was like Thursdays, and that's what I used to
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do. Nice. And so it was a typical thing, signed
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up at Tiniest, went over to Dogwood, and I just
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said my joke and people laughed. And I was like,
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whoa, you know? Yeah. And then I go to Tiniest
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and no one laughed. Yeah, see, it depends on
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the room, the crowd. It depends on the room,
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yeah. So what do you think about people who are
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like, you know, changing or rearranging their
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lives around it? I remember when I first started
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comedy, an older comedian said, you know, comedy
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will ruin your life. And I've been thinking about
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that a lot lately. It's like, oh, God, you know,
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the things I've sacrificed in order to be a comedian,
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you know, just moving from Colorado to... to
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Austin and, you know, closing my business and,
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you know, it's not, I've cried more in the last
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year and a half from like, you know, my living,
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uncomfortable living situation than I have, you
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know, being a single mom for 16 years. It's like,
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it's not easy. And so that uncomfortable living
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situation is all centered around comedy? Well,
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I think, well, You know, I think back like if
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I didn't do comedy, I would have never moved
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to Austin. I wouldn't have had that addiction
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for it. I would have just found a good job and
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probably got married to some guy and, you know,
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I'd be baking casseroles right now somewhere.
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Yeah, it's a different life. Yeah, it is a different
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life, but it is worth it. You know, I'm not complaining.
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It's that... that time on the stage is worth
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all of that. It really is. Yeah. There is a thing
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about it. Even when you just set foot off the
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stage, you're already ready to go back up. Yeah.
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Despite even feeling drained. Yeah. You're wanting
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to go back up. Yeah. It's like, I want to do
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that again. Yeah. But that person that has a
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set right before you, I sit there really nervous
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going, why am I doing this? Why am I here? Why
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am I doing? And then you get on the stage and
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it all goes away. But yeah. Yeah. So you have
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that, like that initial like that. Oh shit. Oh
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shit. Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. That's good. That's
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good. Cause you've been doing it. How long have
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you been doing it? Five years. Five years. Yeah.
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So I'm not that far. ahead of you. Yeah. Always
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a learning process. It is. Yeah. When they say
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laughter is the best medicine, I always think
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like, yeah, it's just like being a doctor. There's
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a practice. Yes. You know, and it's a constant
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learning and things like that. It is. Yeah. Yeah.
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So what are some of the biggest risks that you
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found from moving everything around for common?
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I realized that I don't like working and having
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a job anymore, but I really do need to have a
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job. Yeah. You know, so yeah, I am I Don't eat
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them all so I'm a hairstylist and you know once
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you've gotten on a few big stage and you've gotten
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Some great laughs and then you go to work the
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next day. It's and you walk in it's like why
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is the neighbor one applauding? And I just walked
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in the door, you know? Yeah. So no one's at work
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has ever been like, oh, I saw you last night
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on like Kill Tony or anything? No. No. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's hard to be, you know, treated like
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an employee and a servant after you've had, you
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know, people cheering for you. It's like, you
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know, so yeah. And that's just my ego. Well,
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yeah, I get it I get it but there is a certain
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level of ego because you put a lot of work into
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it Yeah, and that's where the ego I think comes
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from Yeah, so for me what I do is like, you know,
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whenever I have a great set or something I'll
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call my brother or my mom or something like that.
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Who do you call? Like who do you sons? Yeah.
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Yeah, they love that huh? They do. Yeah. Yeah,
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they they seem to anyways they you know Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, what are your conversations like
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after a good set? Do you just unload on them?
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I do. Yeah. That's great, though. Yeah. Yeah.
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And then I always stop myself like, I'm sorry.
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All I'd ever talk about with you is comedy. I'm
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sorry. How's it going? How's your girlfriend?
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I do the same thing. I literally do the same
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thing. I'll be talking for like 20 minutes, just
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telling my mom about the podcast or, you know,
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just if I did a set and I'll just tell her about
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it and I'll be like, oh, wait, I'm sorry. I'm
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sorry. How are you, mom? How are you doing? I
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love you very much. I'm sorry I didn't ask. I
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said it. We're addicts. Yeah, yeah. Sorry about
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that. How's the lupus? Is the lupus going well?
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Oh, yeah. But anyways. Yeah, right? Exactly.
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You know, but no, it's true. There is a level
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of addiction to comedy. You know, it is just
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something like almost, I don't know if you feel
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the same way, but it's almost like a masochism
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in a way. Oh, it is. You know, it's because you
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are getting punished. Most of the time. Yeah.
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I mean, yeah. And I don't know how many heckle
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mics and joke roast mics you've done, but...
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I've never done really any of those. You haven't?
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Yeah. I did the banana phone and afterwards I
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was thinking, it's like, why do we do that? Yeah.
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Why did I just stand on a stage to have people
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bling insults at me? Like, why did I do that?
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I remember I was there for that. Because I was
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watching that. And the only thing I kept thinking
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of during that time is, where's the good jokes?
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Because it was all the same shit. It was all
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the same. Yeah. Yeah, OK, I'm old. Right. Cougar
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shit. Yeah, I already heard it a million times.
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Yeah. There was one funny one. I mean, someone
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said I look like handsome Squidward. And so I
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had to look him up and I'm like, okay, I get
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it. I get it. Like, I get it. But I'm like, at
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the same time I don't. It's the jaw. I don't
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know. Right? It's like something. It's just some
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accented features there. But so like what kind
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of other avenues do you go down to explore as
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a comedian? Well, you know, I've started dipping
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my toe in producing shows which really yeah,
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I can't really brag about too much yet because
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I like I did a Show in Iowa in my hometown and
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that was so much fun. Oh nice. Yeah, it was uh,
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it was a big theater It was like a 500 seat theater
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and I got Charlie Mack to come and oh nice and
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Sancho to come, you know, I tried to pick comedians
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that anyone who watches Kill Tony would know
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who they were. And it was so fun. The problem
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was is that there was a country music concert
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the next town over. So it wasn't a huge... It
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was dead. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a huge ticket
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seller. But I still had so much fun. It's like,
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I did this. I put this on. That sounds so cool.
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So I want to do more of that. I want to take
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comedians from Austin and bring them to the Midwest.
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These mid -sized towns in the Midwest don't have
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a lot of live comedy. So it's kind of an untapped
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market there. And they're such good audiences.
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They love it. They probably like really want
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that kind of release, you know, that just like
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laughter, the release of laughter. Yeah, you
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know, you do comedy in a large city like, especially
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Austin, where there's, you know, a comedy show
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on every corner. The audiences are kind of like,
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okay, make me laugh, funny boy, you know, whereas
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you go to a town where there hasn't been a live
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comedy show there ever. They're so excited. Yeah.
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Which audience would you rather perform in front
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of? I'd rather be in front of these people that
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are just hungry for comedy. Yeah, just super
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enthusiastic and ready to laugh. That seems like
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a whole winning thing. Yeah. A lot of these places,
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even a lot of these bigger cities that are coming
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up. with comedy as a new thing seem to be more
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like the crowd is like, okay, impress me. It
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has to impress me. So they come in there with
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an expectation that's almost higher. Have you
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observed that as well? I have. Back when I was
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touring more with Moms Unhinged, I remember one
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time we did Kansas and we went to Topeka, which
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is a smaller town and the audience was amazing.
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Then the next night we went to Kansas City and
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it was it was that they're like, you know, it's
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comedy whatever right? Oh, you didn't really
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you didn't really make me laugh the way I wanted
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to right? You're not like Shane Gillis Yeah,
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yeah, you know this tickets were only ten bucks
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exactly. Yeah, but it's the truth though It is
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kind of like, you know, they just they are like
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that and I noticed it a lot in places that are
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growing You know, it's like cuz I think that
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they're sort of How do you say like Yeah, okay,
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you know how like you get into something new
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and you just obsess over it for a little while
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You know, I feel like a city will go through
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that when they grow in comedy Yeah, so now all
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these comedy clubs are open and then the people
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will go Yeah, and they'll just keep going and
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going and going and not realizing that they're
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like kind of yeah, you know They're turning into
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that. Yeah, and it makes it harder on you as
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a comedian because now you have to be really
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good Yes, you know you have to be like on yeah,
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you know well and the thing is is that What I've
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noticed too is you know, there there are some
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Some terrible comedians who will get up there
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and then I always worry that the audience thinks
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oh Is this what comedy is right? No. Oh, yeah
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Yeah, bring your a game if you are actually getting
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in front of real people Yeah, exactly. So they'll
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come back to another show in the future. Yeah.
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So being like kind of like, I guess, like an
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older and age comedian, you know, like, what's
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your perspective on this, you know, this younger
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kind of community? Yeah. Well, you know, I started
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comedy at 50. And I wish I would have started
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in my 20s. I had no idea you could do comedy
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back then. Um, but I feel because I'm older and
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I've, you know, I've been married and divorced
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and I've been a single mom and I've had a career
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and, you know, I've had parent deaths and, you
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.880
know, you know, lots of shit happened in my life.
00:24:05.980 --> 00:24:10.420
I feel like my well of, um, comedy material is
00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:14.380
so much deeper than, um, you know, this guy who's
00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:18.259
talking about jacking off. Yeah. Yeah. The more
00:24:18.259 --> 00:24:22.269
life experience. Yeah. And there is something
00:24:22.269 --> 00:24:27.589
to that. Do you have any kind of, I think, serious
00:24:27.589 --> 00:24:31.009
drawbacks, I guess, to being that way? Yeah.
00:24:33.950 --> 00:24:41.049
I always feel really uncomfortable at the mics
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because everyone's just... young and cool, and
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I always feel like I'm standing in the corner
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of my purse with my polyester, you know, pantsuit,
00:24:52.789 --> 00:24:57.970
like, okay, you kids. Yeah, so do you think that
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you do that to yourself? I totally do. Yeah,
00:25:01.630 --> 00:25:04.769
I totally do. Yeah, it's just a mindset, I guess.
00:25:04.869 --> 00:25:08.069
Yeah, it's a mindset, but they're, like, you
00:25:08.069 --> 00:25:10.250
know, they've been pretty accepting of you. Yeah,
00:25:10.369 --> 00:25:15.039
yeah. When I, you know, and I'm, pretty introverted.
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I'm actually a pretty shy person. So, and I think
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most comedians are, I mean, we're all awkward.
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So, you know, going up and making small talk
00:25:24.819 --> 00:25:28.019
with someone, I, you know, and what do I make
00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:33.559
small talk, you know, to a 23 -year -old kid?
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I don't know. I guess, you know, I just. Yeah,
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I guess it's just kind of like, you know, putting
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yourself back in their shoes and just being like,
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where were you at back then? And I guess it's
00:25:45.109 --> 00:25:47.009
relating to them on that level, I suppose. Because
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I know what you mean, though. Because there's
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a lot of younger comedians who, I guess, they'll
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talk to me or they'll ask me a lot of questions.
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And I try to tell them, I'm like, I'm not a guru
00:26:00.710 --> 00:26:04.970
in this, man. I don't know. Some of them I've
00:26:04.970 --> 00:26:06.609
met have been in it a long time, but just because
00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:08.390
of my age, because I'm just that much older than
00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.960
they are, they tend to. Just assume that you're,
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.200
yeah. Just assume. Do you experience anything
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.339
like that? A little, but not really. I'm a woman,
00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:21.940
so I don't think I get it as much. That's been
00:26:21.940 --> 00:26:26.859
said on here quite a bit. Women in comedy, they
00:26:26.859 --> 00:26:30.259
have a much different perspective than the male
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community and everything. For example, nobody
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.779
would ever call me whatever the male equivalent
00:26:34.779 --> 00:26:38.369
of a cougar is. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Nobody
00:26:38.369 --> 00:26:42.089
ever say that about me. And I made the mistake
00:26:42.089 --> 00:26:45.650
of my last Kill Tony appearance. I made the mistake
00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:50.049
of screen recording the chat that happens as
00:26:50.049 --> 00:26:53.950
the episode drops when I got up there. And that's
00:26:53.950 --> 00:26:57.690
where all the meanest things are said. And as
00:26:57.690 --> 00:27:02.200
soon as I appeared on the stage, it was... Gremlin
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.539
gargoyle look at her arms, you know, she really
00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:09.759
yeah just like tearing my physical appearance
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:14.079
apart and They wouldn't do that to a man. So
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.900
unless he really looked weird. I mean, I don't
00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:22.130
maybe I look weird but you know just Yeah, that's
00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:24.329
terrible. And it's also very not true, by the
00:27:24.329 --> 00:27:26.910
way, just letting you know. Not a gremlin or
00:27:26.910 --> 00:27:29.289
a gargoyle. No, yeah, I'd be like, it'd be kind
00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:30.730
of weird, but I'd be like, can I see your wings?
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.279
I'm like, yeah, I just got off the tower, the
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.799
bell tower there too, you know. No, it is kind
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.180
of ridiculous, but it has its certain challenges.
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.299
Like you have like a little bit more stacked
00:27:43.299 --> 00:27:46.960
against you. Yeah, yeah. I have to look fuckable,
00:27:47.099 --> 00:27:49.660
I guess. I don't know. I mean, but men don't
00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:53.019
have to, so. No, we all look the same. We got
00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:56.119
our shirts on and pants, and that's it. We go.
00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:59.079
But women, it's like it is a different thing.
00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:02.279
And the reason why I say that is because enough
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.619
women have been on here and they all said the
00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:08.259
same thing. It seems like, you know, just it's
00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:10.599
a challenge. It's challenging, which is unfortunate.
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.359
It shouldn't be, you know, because this is an
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.700
art form. Right. But, you know, you have to have
00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:17.799
thick skin. You're going to do this. It's just
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.400
part of it. Does those kind of challenges affect
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:27.259
your goals in comedy? Not, not really. You know,
00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:31.569
I think the thing that you have to There are
00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:34.009
so many layers to becoming a good comedian. Of
00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:38.190
course, you have to know how joke structure works,
00:28:38.849 --> 00:28:44.009
and timing, and all of your stage presence. But
00:28:44.009 --> 00:28:46.410
then the next layer to that is you have to know
00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:49.690
what your persona is. I have this filter system
00:28:49.690 --> 00:28:52.569
where I start with a really crappy cheap spiral
00:28:52.569 --> 00:28:55.789
notebook, and that's where I start writing down
00:28:55.789 --> 00:29:01.559
all my ideas. transfer that to my next notebook,
00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:04.400
which is a little nicer. Um, and, you know, and
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.980
I cut all the, all the garbage out. And then,
00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:11.039
and then I, you know, I have about five notebooks
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.859
that I just keep transferring the same joke to
00:29:13.859 --> 00:29:17.839
until it's show worthy. It's in a little notebook
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.740
that I can take with me. That way it's just,
00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:23.039
cause you know, with, with jokes, you need to
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.240
cut out all the fat. So it's like, I just filter
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.539
it down. Instead of and I started doing that
00:29:29.539 --> 00:29:31.599
because I didn't want to like write my my crappy
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.140
ideas in my nice notebook So yeah, just kind
00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:38.000
of yeah, and I love that I love that like that
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.019
process because I remember telling you that you
00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:42.380
know I've got a I got a bunch of notebooks lying
00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.000
around like all over the place and I always Rewrite
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.299
my jokes in whatever notebook I happen to be
00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:49.400
working on that time. So I really love it. So
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.230
do you have a Like a stage book that you just
00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:54.490
like are this is my notebook make it to the stage.
00:29:54.650 --> 00:29:57.849
Yes Yeah, and it's it's like this big. Yeah,
00:29:57.849 --> 00:30:00.390
and and I actually went on and Amazon and got
00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:04.730
a pack of like No books that big and you know,
00:30:04.750 --> 00:30:06.390
and they're all different colors and I you know
00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:08.069
at first when I got him I was like I'm gonna
00:30:08.069 --> 00:30:10.410
write the month on it, you know, so I know that
00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:13.170
was all organized but yeah, that's gone out the
00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:15.490
window, but at least I have like something small
00:30:15.490 --> 00:30:19.450
enough that I can just Yeah. Do you also buy
00:30:19.450 --> 00:30:22.150
pens, too? Because I buy like pens that I like
00:30:22.150 --> 00:30:24.609
to write. Yes. Yeah? Yeah, like this is one of
00:30:24.609 --> 00:30:27.910
them, you know? Yeah, nice one. Nice pen. Just
00:30:27.910 --> 00:30:29.910
basic black pen, but it's like, it's got like
00:30:29.910 --> 00:30:31.910
the, you know, it just writes really nice, you
00:30:31.910 --> 00:30:33.950
know? So do you do that, too, with your novels?
00:30:33.950 --> 00:30:37.950
I do. Well, I have pens from like certain comedy
00:30:37.950 --> 00:30:40.690
clubs that I write with, too. And that just makes
00:30:40.690 --> 00:30:43.789
me feel special. Like I have a couple pens from
00:30:43.789 --> 00:30:47.230
the Comedy Works in Denver. And I'm like, I'm
00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:50.150
writing comedy with my comedy pen. That is really
00:30:50.150 --> 00:30:52.210
cool. Yeah. That's like an immersive experience.
00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:55.069
Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be really sad when those
00:30:55.069 --> 00:30:57.390
dry out. You should be able to just get like
00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:59.880
a little... A cartridge for it, I guess, huh?
00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:02.160
Oh, I probably could. You think? Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.039
I don't know. Yeah. We'll call Bic. Hey, Bic.
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.579
Or Pilot. Yeah. Or I could go back to the Comedy
00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:11.839
Works in Denver and just steal more pins, I guess.
00:31:11.900 --> 00:31:17.059
Yeah. There you go. So what needs to happen for
00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:19.680
you to get your comedic gears going for it to
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.160
make a notebook, period? You know, that's so
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.650
funny because I... I try to force myself to sit
00:31:26.650 --> 00:31:30.289
down and write, and I have way too much ADHD
00:31:30.289 --> 00:31:34.190
to do that. But I've noticed, like, if I'm cooking
00:31:34.190 --> 00:31:37.430
or cleaning or, you know, doing anything else,
00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:41.150
if I'm also working a joke out, it just comes
00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:43.970
like that. It just, you know, and I'm like, oh,
00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:46.829
that's good. And I walk over to the counter and
00:31:46.829 --> 00:31:49.670
write down what I was just thinking. Yeah. Oh,
00:31:49.829 --> 00:31:51.809
this is making me remember what we were talking
00:31:51.809 --> 00:31:54.490
about before. So to the listeners, we had a little
00:31:54.490 --> 00:31:57.369
technical difficulty. So there's a clip. But
00:31:57.369 --> 00:31:59.130
anyway, we were talking about before, because
00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:01.609
you got into conversations. Oh, yeah. You were
00:32:01.609 --> 00:32:04.609
speaking about the natural state of conversations
00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:09.190
and everything. And then you said that you got
00:32:09.190 --> 00:32:15.740
it from work, right? Yeah. Well, you were saying
00:32:15.740 --> 00:32:18.859
that you'll work out a joke with a friend and
00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:23.359
like slip different jokes into the conversation.
00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:27.740
And I do that when I'm doing hair too. And the
00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:31.119
good thing about it is you get to hear what their
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.720
response is. And that either gives you a good
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.779
tagline if they're a funny person or it tells
00:32:38.779 --> 00:32:40.960
you like what the audience would probably be
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.380
thinking. when you told that joke. Yeah. And
00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:47.400
it's kind of nice to know what they would be
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.920
thinking, because then you can say the opposite
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.299
and make it funny. Yeah. Surprise them. Oh, yeah.
00:32:53.460 --> 00:32:55.099
And that's the way I like to do it, because it's
00:32:55.099 --> 00:32:57.839
so engaging, you know? But you were speaking
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.480
a second ago, like, about opening up just a book
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.240
and sitting there and just trying to have a discipline
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.220
of writing, and I can't do that either. Yeah.
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.579
You know, I have such a hard time with doing
00:33:06.579 --> 00:33:08.930
that. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, writer's block. Yeah,
00:33:08.970 --> 00:33:11.109
immediately. Yeah. You know, I can't like, I
00:33:11.109 --> 00:33:13.849
can't pull from anywhere because of that. Yeah.
00:33:14.029 --> 00:33:16.589
You know, I almost don't even know like, I just,
00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:18.769
I just like, oh, what the fuck? What do I write
00:33:18.769 --> 00:33:21.509
about? I got this whole life ahead of you and
00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:22.849
you're like, what do I write about? You know,
00:33:22.849 --> 00:33:24.750
it's, it's like, uh, when you're in the shower,
00:33:25.230 --> 00:33:27.829
you, you know, the best ideas come or, you know,
00:33:27.930 --> 00:33:31.490
it's like your mind is not forcing itself. It's
00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.470
starting to cramp. Yeah. That's so funny. You
00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:36.289
mentioned the shower thing, cause I just learned
00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:39.279
like what shower thoughts were. Because for the
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.740
longest time I was like, what the fuck's that?
00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:43.180
Like, I'd never heard that. But I guess it's
00:33:43.180 --> 00:33:46.259
like little epiphanies that will happen. Have
00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:48.839
you had like any cool shower thoughts lately?
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.900
None come to mind. But yeah, I've heard it's
00:33:52.900 --> 00:33:55.039
because of the water. I mean, the white noise
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.740
probably and you're distracted. But yeah, water
00:33:59.740 --> 00:34:04.869
has some sort of energetic thing to it. Oh, no
00:34:04.869 --> 00:34:07.329
way. I didn't know there was a thing. Are you
00:34:07.329 --> 00:34:09.130
like one of those like crystals people? I'm a
00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:11.289
little woo woo. I am. Little woo woo? Yeah. No,
00:34:11.409 --> 00:34:14.650
that's good though. That's good. So a buddy of
00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:16.670
mine like, because we just went on like this
00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:18.610
long hike and a buddy of mine was like, hey,
00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:21.309
just bring me back a rock, right? And then went
00:34:21.309 --> 00:34:23.389
and stayed in like this nice little like refuge
00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:26.449
place. We met this African guy and he had like
00:34:26.449 --> 00:34:28.909
these crazy rocks, and I'm not like a rock guy,
00:34:29.369 --> 00:34:32.409
but I was like, I gotta have those rocks. Do
00:34:32.409 --> 00:34:34.650
you feel like they have like healing powers and
00:34:34.650 --> 00:34:37.190
all that good stuff? You mean like crystals or?
00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:43.710
Yeah. I will use anything that I can. My algorithm
00:34:43.710 --> 00:34:47.489
on Instagram and TikTok is starting to get a
00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:51.570
little witchy. Okay, hell yeah. Anytime there's
00:34:51.570 --> 00:34:54.190
a woman on there talking about a spell for success
00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:57.820
or so. Yeah, I have little jars around my apartment
00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:01.860
that have like rice and salt and then a name
00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:04.940
inside of it and a little cinnamon on top of
00:35:04.940 --> 00:35:07.800
it. Oh, yeah. That's some voodoo right there.
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.719
Yeah, a little voodoo. Is that voodoo that you
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.880
do? Yeah. I grew up with that. My mom, when we
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.780
got a fever, she used to put onions in our salads.
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:25.050
Huh? Yeah, I was like... Did it work? No. You
00:35:25.050 --> 00:35:26.130
probably would have worked if you would have
00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:27.929
believed it worked. Maybe. I felt like she was
00:35:27.929 --> 00:35:30.489
just marinating us. She was just trying to get
00:35:30.489 --> 00:35:33.010
us good so she could throw us in the pot. You're
00:35:33.010 --> 00:35:40.650
like Bugs Bunny. Awesome, Papa. Exactly. We had
00:35:40.650 --> 00:35:43.349
weird things like that that we used to do and
00:35:43.349 --> 00:35:46.489
everything. I keep trying to pull stuff like
00:35:46.489 --> 00:35:51.010
that into my comedy, but I'm like, Really sometimes
00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:52.769
I just can't I just can't sit down and write
00:35:52.769 --> 00:35:56.110
it. I have to it has to come like a conversation
00:35:56.110 --> 00:35:58.570
Yeah, it does. It's yeah, it's funny because
00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:00.630
yeah, you can come up with a premise and it's
00:36:00.630 --> 00:36:05.110
like how do I get this into a joke? Yeah, can't
00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:07.650
force it. It's so hard to force it. Mm -hmm.
00:36:07.829 --> 00:36:09.230
Are there any jokes that work better for you
00:36:09.230 --> 00:36:14.730
than others? Um, you mean like Topics or sure.
00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:17.510
Yeah topics, you know it I feel like there's
00:36:17.510 --> 00:36:20.929
an evolution when you first start doing comedy,
00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:25.210
everybody starts off dirty. And the sex jokes
00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:30.789
are so easy to write. And, you know, most of
00:36:30.789 --> 00:36:33.829
my material for the past couple of years have
00:36:33.829 --> 00:36:39.829
been menopause and, you know, chasing young men
00:36:39.829 --> 00:36:43.070
and, you know, just crap like that. And it's
00:36:43.070 --> 00:36:46.409
like, I need to start elevating a little bit
00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:53.260
more. Yeah. To what? Actually, I have a lot of
00:36:53.260 --> 00:36:55.760
interesting things happening in my family right
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:03.239
now. My dad is 86 and he had a kid when he was
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:06.539
60. So I have a brother that's 30 years younger
00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:10.900
than me. No way. And my dad's wife was four years
00:37:10.900 --> 00:37:16.730
older than me and she just died. I've been going
00:37:16.730 --> 00:37:19.949
back to Iowa and you know helping them, you know
00:37:19.949 --> 00:37:23.949
cleaning their house and just You know being
00:37:23.949 --> 00:37:26.289
there for my dad, which I haven't we haven't
00:37:26.289 --> 00:37:30.510
had a great relationship for 26 years because
00:37:30.510 --> 00:37:34.489
he had another family and yeah So anyways, I've
00:37:34.489 --> 00:37:36.889
been wanting to like write material around that
00:37:36.889 --> 00:37:42.929
because I'm sure I'm not the only Person who's
00:37:42.929 --> 00:37:45.690
you know, I'm a woman in my 50s with daddy issues.
00:37:45.829 --> 00:37:48.250
There's got to be something funny there Oh, yeah,
00:37:48.769 --> 00:37:50.730
and you know and the whole you know being getting
00:37:50.730 --> 00:37:53.250
to the age where you're taking care of your parents
00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:58.449
and so I know there's stuff there to Write about.
00:37:58.590 --> 00:38:00.670
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, like, you know having daddy
00:38:00.670 --> 00:38:06.530
issues as a mommy Daddy issues, but it's like
00:38:06.530 --> 00:38:09.010
I feel like I'm healing my daddy issues finally,
00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:15.659
so Yeah. In sort of the same realm of family,
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.119
I started writing about my mom because she had
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:23.159
me at a young age. I almost went into a level
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.400
of absurdity because I tried to go to the high
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:30.159
school that she went to. What I wrote was I was
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.760
like, oh yeah, my mom. had me at 17. She was
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.920
real young. I actually tried to go to the same
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.619
school, or actually went to the same school that
00:38:36.619 --> 00:38:39.800
she did. We were in the same grade. She cared
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:41.960
a lot about my grades because she was cheating
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.820
off my papers. Yeah, there's something there.
00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:47.800
There's a lot there, yeah. Yeah, you're just
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:49.199
kind of like, you're just kind of just throwing
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.340
ideas, just like, whatever, like, you know, just
00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:55.260
fly fishing. Yeah, and it's so interesting how
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:58.579
jokes evolve over time. You know, I'll write
00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:02.340
a joke and It's usually after a show and I'm
00:39:02.340 --> 00:39:06.400
driving home, I think about how I could write
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.719
that joke better. And then it just evolves. Yeah.
00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:12.739
It is the performance thing where you get up
00:39:12.739 --> 00:39:15.039
there and you think and like, you know, you just
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.300
kind of like play it out. You just see the reaction
00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:19.619
and you're able to almost jot notes, like show
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:21.539
notes. Yeah. You know, you ever do anything like
00:39:21.539 --> 00:39:23.019
that? Like you ever actually write it down? You
00:39:23.019 --> 00:39:26.300
know, I'm terrible. You know, everyone says you're
00:39:26.300 --> 00:39:29.199
supposed to record your sets and watch them back.
00:39:29.690 --> 00:39:35.369
I never do. But I do just think about them on
00:39:35.369 --> 00:39:37.650
the way home and then I get home and, you know,
00:39:37.869 --> 00:39:42.030
rewrite the joke or... Yeah. I have recorded
00:39:42.030 --> 00:39:45.230
mine, you know, to try to do the social media
00:39:45.230 --> 00:39:48.889
thing, but I feel like that's really just me
00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:52.750
recording mediocre stuff. It's not very funny.
00:39:52.849 --> 00:39:56.000
You're watching me work. on things, you know?
00:39:56.460 --> 00:39:58.719
And I'm like, you're not gonna get it. You're
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.260
not gonna see, but what you are gonna see is
00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:05.099
like the grind, you know, of getting up there
00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:07.320
and working on a joke. I actually had a friend
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.179
send me this reel once, and I wish I could remember
00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:15.920
who the comedian was, but he put together a compilation
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:22.940
of the same joke being rewritten. from its origin
00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:26.820
all the way until it was perfect. And like every
00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:28.559
time he told it, you know, it was probably a
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.679
three minute video. But it was just amazing to
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.539
watch, like the same joke get better and better
00:40:34.539 --> 00:40:36.699
throughout time. That sounds like Mark Normand.
00:40:36.980 --> 00:40:39.579
Was it him? That sounds like, yeah, because I
00:40:39.579 --> 00:40:42.300
remember he did that. He put one out like that.
00:40:42.300 --> 00:40:44.960
Yeah, I think you're right. I think it was. And
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.920
he's great. You know, he's great. He's just,
00:40:48.099 --> 00:40:50.400
he's from New Orleans too. That's where I'm from.
00:40:51.070 --> 00:40:52.889
And so he's from New Orleans too. And so it's
00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:55.230
kind of cool to see somebody from our neck of
00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:58.610
the woods out there doing his thing. But I also,
00:40:58.789 --> 00:41:01.309
I know that Jeff Foxworthy also did something
00:41:01.309 --> 00:41:04.550
similar to that too. He was like, yeah, I'm gonna
00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:06.289
put it out there. I'm gonna show everybody what
00:41:06.289 --> 00:41:09.750
it takes to just write down a joke from thought
00:41:09.750 --> 00:41:12.800
to stage. You know. That's a pretty good impression.
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.280
Whatever happened to him? Is he around or? I
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:17.980
think so. I think he's still doing things. Is
00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:19.639
he? You know, but I think it's just obviously
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.360
like much smaller, you know, scale bit. Old.
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.760
But yeah, he, I mean, it just, I mean, he's great.
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.260
You know, what was it the, you know, so I know
00:41:29.260 --> 00:41:31.659
Billy, what was the, here's your sign, but Jeff
00:41:31.659 --> 00:41:34.460
Foxworthy was, he might be a redneck. Yes. Yeah.
00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:36.500
You know, and those jokes were so fun. They were.
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.980
I mean, that was pretty brilliant for the time.
00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:42.460
Yeah, it really was. In the original, wait, it
00:41:42.460 --> 00:41:46.659
was like the kings of comedy, but they had the,
00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:50.179
what was it? You know, Ron White. Yes, I can't
00:41:50.179 --> 00:41:51.780
think of it either. I know. Larry the Cable Guy.
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.079
Yeah. Yeah, I can't. Is it Blue Collar Comedy
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.639
or something like that? I think that was literally
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.519
it. I think it was Blue Collar Comedy Tour. I
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.099
think that's what it was, but that was hilarious.
00:41:59.099 --> 00:42:01.639
Yeah, it was. Ron White had one of my favorite
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.840
jokes when he was talking about he was riding
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.400
in such a small plane he got passed up by a kite.
00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:10.539
I was like. Man, it's just the way that he said
00:42:10.539 --> 00:42:12.019
it, because if I say it, it's not going to be
00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:15.599
that funny. Yeah, it's all about timing and their
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.480
cadence. So you get your jokes just from just
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.019
normal conversation. Normal life. Yeah, I talk
00:42:23.019 --> 00:42:27.059
about myself all the time. I'm not an observational
00:42:27.059 --> 00:42:30.780
comedian. It's all about me the whole time, just
00:42:30.780 --> 00:42:33.739
self -deprecating. This is what it's like to
00:42:33.739 --> 00:42:37.860
be. in your 50s and a single mom and dealing
00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:41.719
with, you know, an aging body and, you know,
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.199
so, yeah. But you're like, do you ever think
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:48.000
that might be because you mentioned earlier that
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.619
you're an introvert? Do you think that's the
00:42:49.619 --> 00:42:53.139
reason why you tend to focus inward so much?
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.559
Maybe. I never thought about that, but maybe
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.260
it is. Maybe I'm narcissistic. I don't know.
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.559
Oh, no, I don't think you're narcissistic. Well,
00:43:02.780 --> 00:43:04.739
most narcissists would never call themselves
00:43:04.739 --> 00:43:07.480
a narcissist, so that proves I'm not a narcissist.
00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:11.699
Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Whoa, psychology.
00:43:13.059 --> 00:43:16.860
No, I think, you know, you seem to have... you
00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:19.820
know, at least a little empathy, you know? Yeah.
00:43:19.980 --> 00:43:24.280
Yeah, I cry if a kitten dies. You know, even
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.360
if you didn't know about it, you know, you just
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.219
shed a tear just in case. Yeah, yeah. I'm not
00:43:29.219 --> 00:43:31.820
a narcissist. Let me cry. Right, I'm just going
00:43:31.820 --> 00:43:34.539
to cry. You know, I read somewhere, too, that,
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.739
like, people with ADHD tend to cry a lot, and
00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:41.579
it almost brought me to tears. That's pretty
00:43:41.579 --> 00:43:45.699
good. Yeah, always just like, so true. So true.
00:43:46.860 --> 00:43:50.300
I don't know why, but I like to cry. I do. It's
00:43:50.300 --> 00:43:52.780
just weird. You just drive home and all of a
00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:56.000
sudden it's like. I only do that if I'm listening
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.559
to country music and driving home. Oh yeah. Is
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.079
there a song that gets you? You're going to miss
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.699
this. You're going to want this back. Who's that?
00:44:06.019 --> 00:44:09.559
I think it's Trace Adkins, I think. Trace Adkins,
00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:13.139
okay. I think. It's about. Raising your kids
00:44:13.139 --> 00:44:16.159
and you know, they're little and it's like, oh,
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.159
you know, oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll get you Yeah,
00:44:19.260 --> 00:44:21.699
anything I'm gonna do with children. Yeah, these
00:44:21.699 --> 00:44:23.639
little bastards. I can't stand them. You're gonna
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.400
miss this You're gonna want this back of the
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:32.280
country songs that get me. I think it's um Zach
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.400
Brown band the colder weather. Mm -hmm. God that
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.019
song that's such an amazing song. Mm -hmm. I
00:44:39.019 --> 00:44:41.059
don't know what I'm like, how do you capture
00:44:41.059 --> 00:44:45.210
winter? like that in a song, you know? It's poetry.
00:44:45.409 --> 00:44:48.590
It is. It's poetry. It's it's it's insane. You
00:44:48.590 --> 00:44:51.909
know, as I actually I kind of think of and I
00:44:51.909 --> 00:44:53.590
think that we spoke about this actually the last
00:44:53.590 --> 00:44:56.570
episode was I was kind of maybe mentioning to
00:44:56.570 --> 00:44:58.829
you. I hope that was you. But yeah, I was mentioning
00:44:58.829 --> 00:45:01.869
on how like I write jokes like I write songs.
00:45:01.869 --> 00:45:04.489
Oh, yeah. I put the rhythm to the cadence. Yeah.
00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:06.949
There's a cadence to it that I try to have. Yeah.
00:45:06.969 --> 00:45:08.610
You know, do you have any kind of like tips or
00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:11.349
tricks like that that you? incorporate? You know,
00:45:11.349 --> 00:45:13.469
I've heard that before. I've had other comedians
00:45:13.469 --> 00:45:19.829
tell me that. And I don't, really. But I always
00:45:19.829 --> 00:45:22.869
think about memorizing jokes. It's a lot like
00:45:22.869 --> 00:45:27.030
memorizing a song. Because I love to sing. And
00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:29.010
it's like, if I can remember a three and a half
00:45:29.010 --> 00:45:31.110
minute song, I can remember a three and a half
00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:34.289
minute joke. Yeah. So, you know, and I guess
00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:36.769
it would be kind of in a cadence, just like a
00:45:36.769 --> 00:45:39.570
song. Yeah. Yeah. Do you put like little reminders
00:45:39.570 --> 00:45:42.010
for yourself in your joke note, your joke notebook?
00:45:43.329 --> 00:45:45.849
Um, I will. Yeah. I'll have like a little list.
00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:49.269
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, first I'm going
00:45:49.269 --> 00:45:53.309
to talk about fucking a baby. Then I'm going
00:45:53.309 --> 00:45:56.610
to talk about my front butt. And then, yeah.
00:45:56.610 --> 00:45:59.909
Your front butt? Yeah. I never heard that before.
00:46:00.050 --> 00:46:01.929
Your front butt. Man, I was like, is that what
00:46:01.929 --> 00:46:05.980
that is? Oh my gosh. Have you ever felt... like
00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:09.139
comedians were given opportunities that maybe
00:46:09.139 --> 00:46:12.920
you should have had. Is that bad again? Well,
00:46:12.940 --> 00:46:15.500
no, I'm trying to figure out how to word this
00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:19.199
so I don't sound like an asshole. Just be yourself.
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:24.960
Yeah. Just let it out. An asshole. Okay. Well,
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:31.460
here, I'll go into divulging some personal information.
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:39.679
have a roommate and it's she's a trans Blackhawk
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:46.340
pilot and I love her she's amazing and But it's
00:46:46.340 --> 00:46:51.320
hard to live with someone who Shares such amazing
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.820
news every single day like she you know, we're
00:46:54.820 --> 00:46:56.639
standing in the kitchen. She's like, oh my god
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.179
I just got offered a 45 minute set in Houston.
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.820
Oh my God, Joe Rogan knows my name. I'm having
00:47:03.820 --> 00:47:06.780
a, I'm doing a podcast with David Lucas and we're
00:47:06.780 --> 00:47:11.219
fishing. And it's like, you know, I'm like, that's
00:47:11.219 --> 00:47:17.380
great. Congratulations. That roommate of yours
00:47:17.380 --> 00:47:23.630
is very like. She is a go -getter. She's killing
00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:30.369
it. Yeah, it's crazy. So I get where you're coming
00:47:30.369 --> 00:47:35.090
from. Yeah, it's really cool to see it sitting
00:47:35.090 --> 00:47:41.010
on the front row. Yeah. But it's also like, I
00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:44.570
don't have any, you know, like Jim Morgan doesn't
00:47:44.570 --> 00:47:48.559
know my name. Right, yeah. I feel that, I feel
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.360
that. You know, it's like, it's kind of like,
00:47:51.179 --> 00:47:53.039
you actually said it before, like you mentioned
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:54.840
about like how it's like on one hand you have,
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:57.900
you know, you want to support your friends, you
00:47:57.900 --> 00:47:59.679
know, but on the other hand, you're kind of like,
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:05.099
you know, damn. Yeah, it's hard not to feel a
00:48:05.099 --> 00:48:08.000
reflection, like, you know, what am I doing?
00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:12.039
Yeah. You know, but, you know, and she, and we've
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.159
had conversations about this, you know, and she's
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:18.380
like, I'm sorry, I don't mean to like, you know,
00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:21.239
make you feel bad. And I'm like, I don't want
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.980
you to dim your light to make me feel comfortable.
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.119
That's very nice of you. See, that's what I'm
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.119
talking about. You're not a narcissist. Imagine
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.920
if you were like, yeah, bitch. Let's fight. Could
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:34.659
you imagine if I got in a fight with her? Oh,
00:48:34.659 --> 00:48:37.860
I would be pummeled. She's... Me too. She's got
00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:41.119
some guns, man. Yeah. Like, and not just on a
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:45.219
helicopter. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's insane.
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.820
I have to remind myself that we're in two different
00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:49.960
lanes. We're in two different lanes, yes. Yeah.
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.699
And her audience is definitely not my audience.
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.980
It's true. definitely not her audience. Yeah.
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.500
So I, you know, and I have to, I have to remind
00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:04.639
myself that we are building two separate comedy
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.239
careers. Um, and, and, you know, my, and her
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.119
focus is really to, um, get to know famous people.
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.880
And she's doing amazing at doing that. I mean,
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.920
she's on, you know, she's got direct cell phone
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:25.380
numbers and texting with some big people, you
00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:28.500
know, and scheduling coffee dates with some big
00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:35.159
comedians. And, you know, I get excited if I
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:39.099
get to go to Poke the Bear, which is still good.
00:49:40.420 --> 00:49:42.780
You know, and she'll try to make me feel better.
00:49:42.860 --> 00:49:44.900
And she's like, but someone recognized you at
00:49:44.900 --> 00:49:48.440
Walmart. I'm like, yeah, they sure did. It's
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:51.079
the same. It's the same. You know, someone recognizing
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.119
me at Walmart and you, having coffee with, you
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.500
know, a headliner at the mothership. They're
00:49:58.500 --> 00:50:02.500
the same. Yeah, that's exactly the same. Which
00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:04.780
is kind of funny because it's sort of like, you
00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:07.820
know, it's the, you know, you understand that
00:50:07.820 --> 00:50:09.440
they're being nice. You understand that, you
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.400
know, but they're also mentioning things that
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.460
are very important to them. Yeah. And they're
00:50:14.460 --> 00:50:16.119
sharing it because it's important to them. They
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:17.679
want to share with you. They want, you know,
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:19.920
that to be important to you. So I guess like.
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.730
Yeah. And I want to be her cheerleader. Yeah,
00:50:23.750 --> 00:50:25.670
you know, but uh, but what you mentioned earlier
00:50:25.670 --> 00:50:31.170
or just a second ago about how um, you know Like
00:50:31.170 --> 00:50:33.010
basically like it's it's like finding what's
00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:35.809
important to you You know and and how you said
00:50:35.809 --> 00:50:38.389
that your audiences differ and everything and
00:50:38.389 --> 00:50:41.710
it's like Do you want to be a talk show host?
00:50:41.949 --> 00:50:46.769
I do not you know, it's like my goals are to
00:50:46.769 --> 00:50:52.139
build a you know a following and and I know Who
00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:55.320
my following is it's it's it's the Midwest people.
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.340
Yeah, you know and and when I look at my algorithm
00:50:58.340 --> 00:51:04.440
and I look at like who my my followers are they're
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.480
Middle -aged men from the Midwest. That's who
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.900
most of my followers followers are You know,
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.679
we're in two different lanes. It's like, you
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.210
know, she's she's meeting famous people Um, and
00:51:19.210 --> 00:51:23.989
I'm trying to build a fan base. Um, I'm focusing
00:51:23.989 --> 00:51:28.769
more on the people who follow me. Um, and, and
00:51:28.769 --> 00:51:33.929
I, when I look on my, um, social medias, I see
00:51:33.929 --> 00:51:36.170
that they're mostly people from the Midwest.
00:51:36.610 --> 00:51:42.949
And I'm, you know, I'm just trying to focus on
00:51:42.949 --> 00:51:48.139
getting them, doing comedy for them. Yeah. So
00:51:48.139 --> 00:51:51.579
if along the way, you know, I become friends
00:51:51.579 --> 00:51:54.239
with someone famous, it probably will be Joe,
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:57.900
who's someone famous that I'm friends with. But,
00:51:57.980 --> 00:52:01.559
you know, that's great. But it's more about,
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.360
you know, having a following and doing comedy
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:09.119
for the people who want to come pay tickets,
00:52:09.460 --> 00:52:12.519
buy tickets to see me. Yeah. So that's what I'm
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:16.679
focusing on. That's a good focus to have, especially
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.719
when you learn who exactly you're performing
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.039
for. It makes your comedic performances much
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.739
better because you know who you're talking to.
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.760
The beauty of watching your friends and being
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:33.460
supportive of your friends, there is a part of
00:52:33.460 --> 00:52:36.260
you that goes like, damn, I wish I were there.
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.480
But then there's a part of you that's like. But
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.960
that's not the direction that I'm going in. And
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.760
that's okay. And in being okay with that and
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.639
in making you yourself, it's like that's when
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.820
you really boil it all down, that's exactly what
00:52:49.820 --> 00:52:54.219
standup is. And that's your perspective and you
00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:57.679
gain people from how they share your perspective.
00:52:58.940 --> 00:53:02.440
Yeah. It's an interesting journey. And two years
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.300
ago, if you would have... Told me that I would
00:53:06.300 --> 00:53:10.920
be living in Austin with a trans comedian who
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.400
flew Blackhawk helicopters yeah, I would have
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.119
said what type of crack are you smoking because
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.840
Doesn't seem right but yeah, you know, it's it's
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.380
fun. It's you know, yeah, it's it is a journey
00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:28.340
Yeah, you know and that's like, you know, that's
00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:31.840
something that and I didn't think of really until
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.239
Until I really got into it, that's when I really
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:39.559
saw what stand -up was. When I used to watch
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:41.039
Comedy Central and things like that, I would
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:43.199
just be like, man, there's these cool people
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:47.159
saying cool shit and that's it. But now I'm like,
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:52.320
there's so much work and there's so many elements.
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:56.980
It's not just about going up on stage and just
00:53:56.980 --> 00:54:01.440
saying whatever. There's a lot behind it. There
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.320
really is and there's so many nuances to it.
00:54:05.380 --> 00:54:10.099
It's a crazy little industry. It is. It is and
00:54:10.099 --> 00:54:13.599
it's always moving and always shifting and you're
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:21.179
learning and going with it too. When I see your
00:54:21.179 --> 00:54:24.019
beloved Blackhawk helicopter roommate whom I've
00:54:24.019 --> 00:54:26.659
had on this episode or had on the show myself
00:54:26.659 --> 00:54:30.420
because of you actually. It's like when I see
00:54:30.420 --> 00:54:32.559
that and I see the people who are being tenacious
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.579
out there and chasing the dream and everything,
00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:38.960
it makes me proud to be a part of the same realm,
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.420
a part of the same thing. Case in point, I met
00:54:45.420 --> 00:54:49.860
a couple years ago at Creek, I think, for the
00:54:49.860 --> 00:54:54.400
first time I met Cam Patterson. I was there,
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:57.599
he did a set and then got to hang with him a
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.449
few times. Not enough to say he's a friend or
00:55:00.449 --> 00:55:02.250
nothing like that, but just a few times, which
00:55:02.250 --> 00:55:05.469
is kind of crazy. He goes to SNL. That's the
00:55:05.469 --> 00:55:07.809
cool thing about being in Austin, isn't it? Yeah,
00:55:07.809 --> 00:55:12.329
it is. You just never know who you're at a club
00:55:12.329 --> 00:55:17.010
with is going to pop off. Yeah. It's like, do
00:55:17.010 --> 00:55:19.110
you want to be the guy who's going to make it,
00:55:19.150 --> 00:55:21.210
or do you want to be the person to do it? Yeah.
00:55:21.989 --> 00:55:25.170
But all that does is just inspire you to next
00:55:25.170 --> 00:55:28.929
time you get on stage is do better. Yeah. I'm
00:55:28.929 --> 00:55:33.190
in my mid -50s, so I mean, I could be doing this
00:55:33.190 --> 00:55:38.650
for a while, I'm not sure. But someday, my grandkids
00:55:38.650 --> 00:55:43.829
are going to be like. My grandma knew so -and
00:55:43.829 --> 00:55:46.989
-so and you know, yeah Yeah, and the other thing
00:55:46.989 --> 00:55:49.429
is that footage, you know, just watching you
00:55:49.429 --> 00:55:51.409
on stage and everything. God, that's gonna be
00:55:51.409 --> 00:55:54.090
badass I know that'll be weird won't it? Yeah,
00:55:54.110 --> 00:55:55.750
cuz I think about like, you know if I were like
00:55:55.750 --> 00:55:59.489
to my grandma and she used to do like shows too,
00:55:59.510 --> 00:56:02.429
but like it was different like she kind of I
00:56:02.429 --> 00:56:05.150
can't describe him, but it was like Like she
00:56:05.150 --> 00:56:07.570
was like in this club or something with a bunch
00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:11.219
of these like, you know older ladies Yeah. And
00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:15.900
they did plays every year. So every year, all
00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:18.159
the grandkids, everybody would get together and
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.300
we would go and just be a part of like this party
00:56:20.300 --> 00:56:23.460
where they would just do these plays. And I still
00:56:23.460 --> 00:56:27.059
don't understand it. But I remember now I look
00:56:27.059 --> 00:56:28.840
back at it and I'm like, okay, that was kind
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.980
of badass. Yeah. How cool that you got to see
00:56:30.980 --> 00:56:33.260
your grandma do that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have
00:56:33.260 --> 00:56:37.039
grandkids, by the way, but my future grandkids.
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.940
But they're going to be you know, telling their
00:56:40.940 --> 00:56:44.559
friends about their grandma's dry vagina. It's
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:48.320
gonna be amazing. Yeah, they're gonna be like,
00:56:49.059 --> 00:56:52.760
huh, I wonder if she ever fixed that. That's
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:57.539
not how that works. Man, well, is there anything
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that you would like to put out? We're pretty
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much wrapping it up now. Yeah. Let's see. I did
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secure a venue in South Austin to start producing
00:57:10.949 --> 00:57:14.269
shows. Really? Where? Where's this venue? It's
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called the Regal Room. Regal Room? Yeah. It's
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a black box, like 160 to 200 seat venue that
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usually does live music, but they're excited
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about doing comedy. That's awesome. Yeah. I haven't
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gotten a date yet. because I need to find a good
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headliner. We're going to have to stay tuned
00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:39.530
for that. Yeah, for September, but October 4th,
00:57:39.530 --> 00:57:45.389
I'm doing a show with Donna Lee and another female
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comedian from Michigan named Robin Gillerman.
00:57:49.650 --> 00:57:53.909
Okay. I'm trying to figure out a theme for that
00:57:53.909 --> 00:57:58.130
show because Donna Lee and I look so much alike
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and then, Robin Dillerman looks like us as well.
00:58:02.010 --> 00:58:05.250
Oh, trying to figure out a way to like for three.
00:58:05.469 --> 00:58:08.130
It's an October. October. October 4th. Yeah.
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Hocus pocus. Oh, yeah. The three like the three
00:58:11.630 --> 00:58:13.530
witches. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. I know
00:58:13.530 --> 00:58:15.809
they don't look alike, but there's maybe something
00:58:15.809 --> 00:58:17.769
in that room there. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know.
00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:19.889
That's a good idea. I never thought about doing
00:58:19.889 --> 00:58:22.670
like Halloween themed. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Witchy.
00:58:22.789 --> 00:58:25.469
Witchy. Maybe. Yeah. Like, you know, I don't
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know. There's probably some in there. I don't
00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:28.809
know. I don't know. It's like, we'll have to
00:58:28.809 --> 00:58:32.510
see. I thought about naming it. If I did it,
00:58:32.650 --> 00:58:39.250
it was Donna. Oh, Donna. Donna Lee, man. She's
00:58:39.250 --> 00:58:42.630
so funny. She is, yeah. And it's funny because
00:58:42.630 --> 00:58:46.300
everyone would come up to me and... Say they,
00:58:46.300 --> 00:58:48.500
you know, met me at another show, and I'm like,
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:50.380
you're talking about Donnelly. You didn't meet
00:58:50.380 --> 00:58:53.940
me. Oh, you can see that. Yeah. And recently,
00:58:54.139 --> 00:58:56.800
she went and signed up for Kill Tony, and I wasn't
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:58.260
there, and everyone came up to her, and they
00:58:58.260 --> 00:59:01.219
were like, great episode! I was like, no, that
00:59:01.219 --> 00:59:03.199
was Kimberly. And I'm like, yes, I'm so glad
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.900
it happens to you too, not just me. Oh, that's
00:59:05.900 --> 00:59:09.059
great. Yeah. That's awesome. Man, well, Kimberly,
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.780
thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. I
00:59:11.780 --> 00:59:13.760
love having you on. And I love that this is like
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.039
part two for you. Yeah. This is great. Yeah.
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And thank you so much for your patience dealing
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.940
with that technical difficulty. Yeah, you gave
00:59:20.940 --> 00:59:24.119
me free coffee. So I'll do a lot for free coffee.
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.159
Hell yeah. Well, thank you so much. I really
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.860
appreciate it so much. And I can't wait to have
00:59:29.860 --> 00:59:32.860
you back on again. Cool. Yeah. Cool. And that
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is it. That is a wrap. Adios. Hehehehehe!