Reality TV Mount Rushmore: Omarosa Manigault

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Welcome back, No Takers.
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I'm Aiden and Oh my God, I'm being pumped by a Jackson!
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I'm Noah, and go smoke some crack, you crack bitch.
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Oh wow, so you really did choose that one.
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Yeah, I sure did.
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That's my favorite Omarosa quilt.
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And like Noah just said, these are quotes from one Omarosa who is a bit of an icon in the reality television space in her own right.
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And this episode is kind of gonna be a one-off on her.
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A deep dive into her reality television appearances from where we first met her on The Apprentice, way back in 2004, I believe.
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And what she's up to now in 2023.
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Yes, Omarosa made quite the splash right from the start on her first reality TV apprenti uh reality TV appearance on The Apprentice season one.
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Um she was very fiery.
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It was Chasen Force, it was kind of um this era where you didn't really have to do much to be a villain on reality TV.
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Like if you were just like a little bit disagreeable, or if you did a few sh if you made a few shady remarks, you were instantly like the villain of the show.
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Especially when competition.
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Then you were the villain.
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If you were not there to make friends, you were the villain for sure.
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But a little bit of background on one Amarosa Man and Galt.
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Prior to her apprentice appearance, she had a bit of a political career.
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She's worked in a few administrations, she worked in the office of the vice president Al Gore during the Clinton administration.
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So she has had her chops and she has a developed resume.
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And as as she says, she's from Youngston, Ohio from the projects, and she made it from the projects of the White House.
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Another iconic quote.
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So she is a very intelligent woman who knows what she wants, and she knew.
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I think she definitely understood the assignment on several levels.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, she definitely went into the apprentice.
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I mean, I feel like she definitely is competitive, and there's a part of her that wanted to do well in the competition aspect and wanted to win.
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However, I do think she went in knowing that playing to a character a little bit would probably be helpful.
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It could be beneficial.
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Because I think um just in the last few years, you've kind of seen some major characters on shows like Survivor or Big Brother.
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Um so I'm sure that was uh maybe at least a little bit on her mind at the time.
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Yeah, definitely.
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And I think honestly, looking back and reviewing Apprentice One, I never realized how big it actually was.
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I think it makes sense for 2004, where a lot of reality shows were new and people really had a lot of buy-in into them, but the ratings were really good.
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I think it was like a unique show and kind of had the talent search lens, but also it's like a general business show, which I don't think really existed at the time.
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Oh, for sure.
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They were not doing shows like this because it was definitely, I think, um reality T I feel like reality TV at the time there was definitely more of like a gimmick, like taking just like everyday people and putting them in weird situations, versus this show.
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This was taking like um, you know, qualified professionals and kind of putting them to the ultimate test.
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Um exactly.
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Which I thought was which I think is very interesting, and I think that's why the show blew up and became as successful as it was.
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Um it really had to become branded as a celebrity show to continue.
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Later on, yeah, for sure.
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Yeah, no, definitely I think that was probably one of the smartest decisions they'd made, but we'll we'll we'll get into that a little bit later on.
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Um As far as Amarosa.
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I think Amarosa, I mean, there's definitely some there's definitely a few interesting people on the season one cast for The Apprentice, but I think Amarosa is by far the standout, obviously.
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Um I think she was the only one from the regular Apprentice series that was later asked back for the Celebrity Apprentice.
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I could be wrong.
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I believe so.
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I don't know.
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I think a lot of those people built their own careers in their own right.
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Like I know Kwame started doing speaking stuff after the show and just kept that going.
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I believe um Katrina, the girl that Amarosa kept dragging, is a contributor for Fox News for real estate now.
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So she has um a bit of a bag, I we could we could say, maybe.
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Yeah, the the the winner, Bill Ranc, um, he is married to Juliana Randic.
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And uh I didn't know that.
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Yep, he he married Juliana Randci, and they had their own reality show, and I believe he Oh, I've never seen commercials for that.
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Yeah, uh Bill and Juliana, whatever it was called.
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Um Fashion Police after Joan Rivers died, nobody watched.
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Yeah, but I I I think they've both kind of worked him and his wife have both worked um a lot together in just media, news, celebrity gossip.
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You know, that was a highly successful cast in terms of like the people they found and how people manage a parlay, like a career for themselves.
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Which is I mean, it makes sense with the background they all had, but well, yeah, that's the thing because I think for this show, at least at this time, they were genuinely looking for like young professionals, people who truly um despite maybe not being that far along in their professional life, you know, these people I think were mostly like in in their late 20s, early 30s, um, they were all pretty accomplished from a young age.
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Like you kind of were pointing out Amarause's accolades.
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Um, they all had experience, they were all educated, um, they were all they all had innovative ideas.
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So definitely they the casting for this was really great.
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Right.
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And nowadays we'll have somebody come from a big four consulting firm or accounting firm, and they'll just want to be peddling supplements on their Instagram after the show.
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It's like, okay, all that work for nothing.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Amarosa's interactions with um her fellow contestants on season one of the Celebrity Apprentice are arguably the best part about that season.
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I mean she I mean she sh because I that was that season I remember they divided the teams up, um, men versus women, and uh Amarosa and the other ladies on her team did not get along very well.
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Yeah, I think Omarosa was very clear that she wasn't there to make friends, and I think she was just steadfast about her boundaries while trying to play a villain, and the rest of these women just you know played right into it, just yelling at her and crying all the damn time.
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Because a lot of time they didn't have arguments, it was just people like me, I'm nice, this and that.
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It's like okay.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, and that's the funny thing about Omarosa is I feel like obviously um she gets stereotyped as being like, you know, angry or aggressive or confrontational.
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But if you if you go back and watch the show, she didn't even really raise her voice.
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She really just like she is kind of like she's so good at very calmly provoking people and getting them to act out of character.
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Because I think because I mean she would just sit there, you know, she would just be talking like you and I are talking just very calmly, very casually, and she would just slip some things in there that would piss people off.
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And they, like you said, they would be yelling, they would be crying, um, they would be like farm.
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Katrina yugged her up.
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Yeah, I think, yeah.
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I remember that's uh she grabbed her and said something about she like said something about her, and I just remember Amarosa, that's where this conversation ends.
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Yeah, Amarosa's comebacks are like legendary, like she was she is just so quick, and I think that's like a I think that's a staple of any iconic reality TV star is someone who's just like quick with it, yeah.
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She's they can just throw it back.
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Um are there any specific Amarosa moments from The Apprentice Season 1 that you wanted to go over?
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Um, well I did one little one-off thing was funny when she was arguing with one of the women.
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If you're like, if you think I'm a bad businesswoman and being nice makes me that, then so be it.
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Amarosa is like, I actually don't.
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I think you're a good businesswoman.
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But this girl continues to like scream and get into an argument.
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It was really good.
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Yeah, that's that that was the one that grabbed her arm, I believe.
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Oh, Katrina's ass.
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Yeah, what I wanna sorry.
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I was gonna say that was also I think that was also the context in which she said this conversation that's where this conversation ends.
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I still I use that to this day.
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Like if somebody's if I'm like talking to a friend that irritated me, this that's where this conversation ends.
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You better hope they don't get up and try to follow you, like some people on some shows.
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But I think we can't ignore how pivotal she was in the finale because pretty much at least the television reason that Trump used that Kwambi lost was because he didn't fire Omarosa.
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Because Omarosa just being a nuisance on his team.
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So for those of you who don't know, the finale of The Apprentice works that the final two pick amongst the nominated players to help them with their task.
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Obviously, Omarosa was the one nobody wanted.
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Kwame tried to work with her, but their job was to kind of do a benefit concert with Jessica Simpson, believe it or not.
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And Omarosa just lost track of her twice and didn't care and wasn't She was just being a nooson, she was being Omarosa.
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Yeah.
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Was she trying to was she trying to make TV?
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Probably, but yeah.
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She quote unquote ruined his chance to win.
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Well that that um that makes me that kind of poses the question to me because Amarosa has across her seasons competing on The Apprentice, she doesn't have the best track record of doing well at the challenge.
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No.
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I think so I'm gonna lie, eighth every time or something like that.
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Or sixth every time?
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Yeah, she kind of always gets fired like around the midpoint of the season.
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Um so I so that makes me wonder like, so do you think that she just wasn't good at those particular challenges, or do you think that she was intentionally throwing them to be like messy or for TV or you know for a for the storyline or whatever?
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I think she genuinely did try to win when she was PM, because I feel like losing as PM just put yourself in a position to not be on the show.
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And we all know her goal was to be on the show as long as possible.
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I think her interpersonal issues and other tasks probably ruined her, but yeah, I I could definitely see her sabotaging when she wasn't the PM.
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Like we're getting to win the celebrity seasons like versus Latoya.
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Like, she was definitely trying to ruin Latoya's sabotaging.
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Oh, we'll get to it with Latoya, as Omar also likes to refer to her as or Casper the Ghost.
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That was as as Nini calls it.
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Um so move are we ready to move on from The Apprentice?
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I just want to throw out that KFC um offered to give somebody a$25,000 salary for a week of work as their chief sales officer just to show how big the apprentice was in 2004.
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Wow.
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Which is wild.
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Um, so moving on from The Apprentice, we're gonna go to the following year in 2005.
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Amarosa appeared on season five of The Surreal Life, and that was something.
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I love that the opening of this season is a voiceover of Wendy Williams going through the cast.
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And she referred to Amarosa as that boardroom bitch from The Apprentice.
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Oh, that's that's that's some good foreshadowing of uh of of Wendy and Amros's relationship in the following years.
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Well, Amrose will get her back for that, I know that.
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But um, we'll get to that later.
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Um, so we've talked about this real life before on this podcast.
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Uh fantastic show, great concept, usually pretty good casting.
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Um this season was no exception.
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Uh they obviously had Amarosa on it.
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They also had um uh Sandy Denton, they had Janice Dickinson, they had Carrie Hart.
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Sandy Denton's best known as Peppa, by the way, from Soton Peppa.
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Yes.
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Um, oh copyright.
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Yeah, but I'm gonna say don't do don't do all that.
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You never let me have a number, really.
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Uh we're we're we're not editing that out.
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Um so I think once again, um Rosa kind of does steal the show on this show as well because her and Janice Dickinson's feud, I would say, is the wildest part of this this season.
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It's the biggest aspect to me uh going back and watching.
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Because it's just so funny.
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I mean, I I used I use the quote that she said to Janice um as my opening quote for this episode.
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Because if the the the the banter back and forth between them, it's so funny, and it like it gets nasty, like it gets very, very low down, nasty, dirty.
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Like they're just saying they're saying that they're saying the most disgusting things to each other, and it but it's entertaining because of their delivery, I think.
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And it's like I think the first time in a cast environment I've seen people take Omarosa's side, like for the most part.
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Because like Janice was just that crazy and unhint in the house, I guess.
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But I think yeah, that's how wild Janice Dickinson is, is that for once people are on Amarosa's side.
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Like I had never seen that.
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I was like, oh wow, they're actually because yeah, as you it's you it's usually it it's usually you know, like if you look at a reality TV video title or whatever, it's usually you know, like Amarosa versus everyone, Amarosa versus the house, Amarosa versus the cast.
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Yeah, she was definitely as Carlos King would call it, the force multiplier of the show.
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She was there to turn up and add to it.
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I think she was great casting.
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I think when they when trying to get in that the quintessential reality star of the bunch, they did a good job.
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Yeah, and I think she I think she I think this would have been filmed after The Apprentice had aired, I think.
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Um, or at least had finished airing and everything.
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So I mean she fully at that point, I think she knew exactly what she was doing.
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If I mean I would argue she knew what she was doing on The Apprentice, but even if she didn't fully know what she was doing on The Apprentice, at this point she truly like understood the reality game and knew how to play it and knew what she was doing.
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Yeah, and she was very meta about that on the show.
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That like talking about it later on that she talked to her castmates that her goal from surreal life was after it to write a book and then how to publish out about reality TV and share her experience of being a reality TV personality.
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Mm-hmm.
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Oh yeah, no, she knew.
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She was she was um she was very self- she was very self-aware very early on, and I think she she knew how to really make money off of reality TV.
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She knew how to monetize her f she knew how to monetize her fame, she knew how to parlay it into other ventures, into further appearances, into further opportunities to get a check.
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So she is very much a blueprint for what we see now as far as reality TV.
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Because I mean now, you know, it is for most people that appear on reality TV, it is like it's it's their job, it's their career, it's how they make money.
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Um, versus at this time it necessarily wasn't.
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Yeah, and she has a a quote prof quote a quote and confessional about that, which is actually pretty shady.
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She says, Peppa, who can go rap a couple of songs or go collect her royalty checks?
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Just go be high and drunk and curse people out for a living.
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Or even Carrie who gets to do a backflip over dirts.
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This for me is my profession.
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There we go.
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And she's and she's and she's really freaking good at it.
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Like I didn't say, like, and she described this profession as this is called acting for unscripted drama one-on-one by Omarosa.
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I love it.
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I think she's just such she's so good.
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Like she's just so so good at it.
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She's just such a perfect reality TV um casting decision.
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And you know, and a lot of people that start out good kind of like lose it, like they lose uh whatever it is they have, like whether they're you know, whether because it's you know, there's different reasons why people do well on reality TV.
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Some people are polarizing like Amarosa, some people are relatable like other cat like reality TV stars, some people you know, whatever it is.
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Um people are aspirational, and a lot of people I think lose it over time and whatnot.
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But I mean Amarosa, she's been in this game for almost 20 years, and she still just never misses the mark when she does show up on a show.
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Yeah, no, she's always an iconic addition to a cast.
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I think even if she even if she's there for a short period of time, which we'll get into later on some of the other shows.
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Um real life, I guess the main thing was her feud with Janice Dickinson, because outside of that, I guess she flirted with Jose Canseiko a little bit.
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She ran out with him, but outside of that, the cast was really kind of boring.
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There was like this Motto Caprice, Bronson or something.
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He was a little creepy.
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Yeah, no, I mean I de I definitely think that it was it was the Janice and Amorosa show with some appearances from Peppa, in my opinion.
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Yeah, no, Janice and Amorosa is a element.
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Yeah.
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Carrie was alright, I guess.
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He was pretty fun.
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Yeah, they were that's a yeah, it was it was interesting.
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It was, I mean, it's you know, it's season five of a reality show, so you know there's gonna be I think at that point some issues arising.
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Um but I think Amarosa, you know, she hopped on the surreal life trend right before it died out, so I think perfect timing.
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Um So the knife incident, hyped up?
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Do you think Amarosa's reaction was amped up for TV?
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Do you think she thought that was really a crazy high girl with a knife?
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Oh, I think I think the latter.
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I think in that I think in that moment it wasn't about TV.
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I think Amarosa was pissed that uh this crazy ass Janice Dickinson was holding a big ass butcher knife right above her head.
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Because I mean that's like I mean, just think about it.
00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.079
How would would you be concerned if Janice Dickinson had a butcher knife right above your head?
00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:44.640
I would.
00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.079
Yeah, especially if I've been stabbed like Amarosa allegedly had.
00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:48.559
Okay.
00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.720
And then like also this was this was 2005.
00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.480
So I mean, Janice Dickinson was nowhere near sobriety.
00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.839
Um sure they knew it.
00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:02.559
The director has told her to go over there and do that.
00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.200
So I'm sure Omarosa was more pissed at that too.
00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:06.160
Right, that's anything.
00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:11.519
And I mean, this is a time where you know Janice Dickinson was not only, you know, obviously mentally ill, but still a heavy drug user.
00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:16.960
So I I would have had a similar reaction, I think, if she was holding a knife towards me.
00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.119
Cause I because I would have been like, oh, this this you know, this lady's fucking crazy.
00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.880
She might actually stab me.
00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:27.279
But I think what's funny that right before the photo, she was with her mom.
00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.559
And she's like, mommy, my my strategy is to stand out in the group photo.
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And she shows up in a damn gown.
00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:33.039
Okay.
00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:38.559
It's like I mean that's yeah, Amrosa's always gonna know how to stand out, I think, in any crowd.
00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:49.920
So, um, is there anything else you wanted to get into with the surreal life before we before we move on to a real to a really major moment?
00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:56.079
Um, I thought the dirty laundry segment was kind of iconic where they they kind of leaked her interviews.
00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.720
Showing her in between the interviews and that one PA she was dragging.
00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.640
You got a good half hour, honey.
00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:03.279
Oh yeah.
00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.240
I was like, oh, she she she's like, where's the other lady, Jackie?
00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:07.599
She's so much better than this than you.
00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:08.079
Oh, yeah.
00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.400
Was it scripted or was she really dragging this girl?
00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:11.359
That's what I want to know.
00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:13.039
Probably really dragging her.
00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.759
I mean, you know, Amarosa's gonna Amarosa's not gonna hold back her opinion.
00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.480
And then they have to call in Mark Cronen to interview her.
00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:23.599
I know I'd be pissed, like, oh, y'all have to bring in the EP for my ass.
00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.920
Not that you gotta bring in this guy.
00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:26.880
It's giving very much.
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Just because she couldn't handle a two-second exchange?
00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.160
It's giving very much Shima, it's Allison, and we might cover that one.
00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:36.480
For for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about.
00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:37.200
Oh my god.
00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:52.480
Um, so there was she took a couple of years off of reality TV after the surreal life and would later reappear in 2008 on the first celebrity edition of The Apprentice.
00:19:52.720 --> 00:20:02.799
So she was the only So this is when this this is when The Apprentice rebranded into The Celebrity Apprentice, which I think is what it would become much more known for.
00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:10.960
I think um there are probably fans of the Celebrity Apprentice that don't even realize that the show started out with regular everyday people.
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:27.359
Um and she was instantly kind of a standout on the cast because on this cast of sele of like more traditional celebrities, she was the only one that was brought back from the original um iteration of The Apprentice.
00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.759
So that was kind of you want to bring back Katrina?
00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:30.880
No, right?
00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:35.759
Well, I think and it was kind of an it was kind of an interesting um I think dynamic with all these people.
00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:46.960
Because I mean, definitely I feel like a lot of the other celebrities in that show kind of looked down on her quite a bit, um, because they saw her as like, oh, she's just, you know, she's just a real she's just a reality TV star, you know.
00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:56.720
And I think because I and I mean that's kind of like what you saw even on this real life, because I remember I when we were discussing the Sreal Life season one, we were talking about how like the other cast members were talking shit about Jerry Mantley, because they're like, oh, she's just a reality show.
00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.480
You know, because that's kind of how I think it was in the earlier days of reality TV.
00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:11.599
Um when you would get celebrities on there that were non-reality stars, they would definitely look down on people who were kind of professional reality stars.
00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.000
Kind of like Kim Fields on her season of Atlanta, allegedly.
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:25.920
Yeah, it's kind of like just this it's just this dynamic where they c I think they kind of see them as achieving fame in a cheaper, tackier way.
00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:31.839
Um without maybe having like a direct talent, like you know, being a singer or an actor or whatever.
00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:40.240
Yeah, I still feel a lot of them are just like I had to pound the pavement, going through auditions, maybe doing a casting couch, struggling waiting tables in LA.
00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:42.559
Like sorry, Omar also didn't want to do that.
00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.799
You know, there was definitely that dynamic there.
00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:51.039
I also feel like it was a little bit of a disadvantage because like when it came to those fundraising challenges, who was she gonna call?
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:51.759
That's true.
00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:52.480
She definitely wasn't.
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Janet Dickinson, Caprice.
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She definitely I mean, she knew celebrities at that point, but she definitely was she had a good network.
00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.440
She was a good net worker.
00:21:59.519 --> 00:21:59.839
That's something.
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That's on her behalf.
00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:10.960
But she but I mean she definitely, I mean, she I think probably lacked for sure a lot of the connections that some of these other like major, like longtime, you know, iconic stars in the industry.
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:12.079
Stephen Baldwin.
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:13.759
Like you just he's a Baldwin.
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:14.319
Yeah, exactly.
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.000
Well, wasn't he not raising money too?
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:17.279
What is useless?
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.799
Yeah, and I think we I I mean they're probably I I have some ideas of why.
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.839
Is that one Haley's dad or is another one Haley's dad?
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.680
I think that one's Haley's dad.
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Let me.
00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.160
Oh yeah, no, he's he he he he's the drunk.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.519
He's Haley's dad, yeah.
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.039
He he he's not the he he's not the one that killed somebody.
00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:40.319
He's not the killer, he's the drunk.
00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.400
Speaking of that movie, I know Ned from Ned's declassified was on that damn side.
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Oh lord.
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I just need to throw that in.
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Everything ties back to Ned.
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Right?
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:55.920
And all roads lead back to all roads lead back to that damn survival guy.
00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:59.119
Uh Jennifer Mosley.
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And Jennifer Mosley.
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:05.440
Uh, our our our our favorite uh what that show-coded character.
00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:07.200
Oh that's our favorite lesbian.
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.799
Um the Gen Z kids are saying queer-coded.
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:12.319
Oh, sorry, Gen Z.
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:22.640
So on the Celebrity Apprentice, so I mean this was like the first celebrity apprentice, it was frickin' explosive.
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:36.559
Like, I'm not the it does not shock me that they switched gears to celebrity apprentice permanently after this, or at least I think they I think at one point they did a non-celebrity season, but for the most part, they really switched gears to the celebrity aspect because this season was just so good.
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.480
It was so explosive, so much craziness.
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:43.440
It was a great format to get these has been trying to like compete and do projects.
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:50.480
Like I was real life, like a fan of Celebrity Apprentice, like season 12 and 13 I watched live and was having the time of my life.
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.680
So I didn't watch this one live, but I was familiar.
00:23:53.920 --> 00:24:06.240
Yeah, I think it's kind of like taking the surreal life and putting the more competitive twist on it, which meant you know, when you take people and put them in a competitive setting, it's odd and also have cameras involved, like they're gonna get crazy.
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:07.680
It's guaranteed.
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:12.720
Um and yeah, Amrosa once again delivered on the season, the standout.
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:18.480
She played, you know, she reprised her role as the villain of the show that she played in the first season.
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.599
Um this time it was her feud with Piers Morgan that was probably the craziest.
00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:38.799
Um, you know, she really those two really, I mean, they bet it had from the beginning because like literally from the moment the celebrities all kind of came together and saw each other, he he made a slick remark saying that she's not a real celebrity or something like that, or not a legitimate celebrity.
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.920
He made he made some kind of remark in front of everybody like that.
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:45.680
Right, well that's dumbass.
00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:50.160
Well, that's the thing, is I mean, he really ignited that feud and kind of initiated it.
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:56.240
Because that I mean that's the thing with Amarosa, is you know, Amarosa might come after you just because she feels like it, you know, even if you haven't done anything.
00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.160
So if you do something to provoke her, you're definitely catching the smoke.
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:01.359
And he knew it.
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:02.079
He wanted it.
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:03.680
Oh yeah, no, he definitely wanted it.
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:09.839
That's that's the thing because I think Piers Morgan and Amarosa, I think both of them were playing the Riyadh TV game with their feelings.
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.920
I think they genuinely disliked each other, don't get me wrong.
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:16.720
I don't I think I don't think that like off-camera they were like, you know, kikiing and having a good time.
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:19.839
I think they genuinely I think they genuinely hated each other.
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:28.640
However, I do think they both knew that kind of continuing the feud and going at each other over and over and over again was good TV.
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.240
Oh yeah, I think they were both willing to clock in, play some ball.
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:36.799
I I honestly I think Amr also genuinely enjoys cursing some of these people out.
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:38.400
Like I think she loves it.
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.680
Oh yeah, no, I think she I think she enjoys the verbal back and forth.
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:44.559
I think it's fun for her.
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:45.920
Like we said earlier, she's so quick.
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:47.759
A two-second exchange, as she calls it.
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.359
Yeah, she's so quick-witted.
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.599
She, you know, she doesn't back down.
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.519
Um, yeah, I think she loves it.
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.440
I think it's really, really just like a fun game for her.
00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:02.559
Um so this season had a lot of explosive moments.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:10.799
One in particular I can think about is um, I think this may have been this may have been the episode that Amarosa went home, but I can't remember.
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:20.240
But it's um, I think Piers was the project manager, and Amarosa decided that she was gonna do everything because she had been sw there had been some kind of team swap.
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:28.160
So her he and her were now on the same team, and she was determined to sabotage him at any turn, and she was trying to provoke him.
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:28.960
She was.
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:35.759
I remember there was that fight in the limo where she was getting right in his face on the way to do the challenge.
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:43.519
She was cussing him out, she was calling him wasn't she saying like there's a reason why they call you the asshole of Britain.
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.559
Uh and she was saying your own kids don't like you.
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.559
Oh, she was always bringing up someone's kids.
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:49.839
He did it with Janice too.
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:55.920
Yeah, she was cut- I mean, that's the thing is that's the thing with Amarosa, she cuts deep, she goes for the jugular, she does not give a shit.
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:02.079
Do you have uh do you have any like moments in particular that stand out to you this season?
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.960
Yeah, not really much from this season.
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.440
She was just she was just regularly iconic.
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.400
I love how she kept bossing Stephen Baldwin's dumbass around.
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.799
Right, she It was kind of a moment.
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.880
Yeah, she she she really had she really kept him on a short leash.
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:26.720
Um yeah, no, I think this season was just kind of like it was the same Amarosa we got in the first season, but kind of just turned up, enhanced, you know.
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:32.640
Um it was kind of like an even more refined version of Amarosa, I think.
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.720
She was even more so on her game.
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:43.920
Um definitely watching her interact with these celebrities versus just like regular people, I think, also added to the fun of it.
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.920
Because, you know, it's it's one thing to see some random person on the street get cursed out.
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.000
It's another thing to see Pierre, it's another thing to see Piers Morgan get dragged.
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.480
But he he deserves to get dragged.
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:55.920
Oh yeah, no, he deserves to get dragged.
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.960
Oh yeah, no, he has every single dragging he has ever received, he has had coming.
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:07.039
But yeah, it is very cool seeing like these random celebrities interact with Omarosa and like how they deal with her.
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:07.759
Can they be nice?
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:09.200
Because she can get along with people.
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.359
Like, yeah, I don't know if her and Mary Lou fought.
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:12.960
I think I think they were fine.
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.400
Mary Lou's a lot though, but I know for sure.
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:21.039
There there are some people that Amarosa, you know, could chill with.
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:32.000
Um but I think it really it really just depends because I think if Amarosa, if she decides that you're the one that she's gonna fight with on a show, it's just that's how it's gonna be.
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.480
Like you're not like you're not gonna get her.
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:51.039
I guess kind of like if she if she picks you as her feet, like unless I mean obviously in this case, I think Piers picked I think Piers picked her, but um, if if nobody else, if nobody else is messing with her and she just needs to decide to find somebody to fight with, like, and she picks you, then it's just the way you're gonna fight with her.
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:52.480
You're not gonna get her to stop.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:53.839
That's true.
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.279
Ain't no stopping on more also.
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.519
That's saying you can't make her stop.
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.880
Um so once again on the season.
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:08.480
So I think this season, um, she placed basically the same as she did on her first season.
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:16.640
Um, because in season one, she was fired in week nine, and I believe came in eighth place.
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:29.039
Um and then in the Celebrity Apprentice, she was fired in week ten, which I think with the adjusted cast size, also came to like eighth place or something like that.
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.759
Or maybe it was 10th place, maybe it was like still the halfway point.
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.079
She stayed getting fired at the same time, at the same task.
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.240
Yeah, and that's the thing, is she got fired at the same exact task as she did the first time.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:51.759
Um and then so following, or I think I can't I don't know if this aired while the Celebrity Apprentice was airing or if this was like after, but it was also in 2008.
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.279
Um, if we're ready to move on.
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:54.319
Are you ready to move on?
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:55.359
Oh yeah, I'm ready.
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:06.880
Okay, well, so um an what arguably I would say one of the most iconic moments in Amarosa's reality TV villain career was her appearance as a guest on the Wendy Williams show.
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.119
Um so just a little background on this.
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:18.640
Amarosa was going on the Wendy Williams show that day to promote the book she was releasing called The Bitch Switch.
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.720
Uh I'm sure you can buy it somewhere.
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:25.440
Um how many books does she have?
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:26.559
A few.
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:36.559
Um and right before she came out for her interview, uh, Wendy was talking to her audience, and like they I think it was like right before our commercial break before they brought out Amarosa.
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:43.920
Wendy says something about like, you know, she's calling Amorosa, kind of the same beats as like how she described her earlier, kind of like she's the bitch, she's reality TV villain.
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:49.759
And then she what really bothered Amorosa is Wendy made a comment, she said, we're gonna smooth her out.
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:59.920
And when they returned from the commercial break and Amarosa sat down, Amarosa, as I as you know, and as I'm sure many know, Amorosa.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:01.119
She got activated.
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:05.519
Yeah, she came in hot immediately going into the interview.
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.599
And went and Wendy was shook.
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.960
But you know, what when do you Wendy tried the return, sir?
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.480
Wendy had her rack and out.
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:13.599
Wendy had her rack and out.
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.359
Oh yeah, no, it was definitely back.
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:21.200
They were they were, you know, they were both getting their hits in um for the entire interaction.
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.480
You know, they were going back and forth.
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:30.480
I just think um there was a comment that Amarosa made near the end that I think kind of I would declare her the winner based off of that.
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:40.480
Um so Wendy came out on Amarosa, because so Amarosa mentioned to Wendy plastic surgery, and she brought up like, oh Wendy's alleged nose job, which Wendy did not appreciate.
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.680
Before the after pictures, before and after people.
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.519
And then Wendy said, I've all I've had on my face is some Botox.
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:55.039
She's like, What I would recommend for you is a little restaline right here, motioning to Amarosa's uh the little space from her from her lips to her nose.
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:56.799
She was a line show.
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:03.440
Um and Amarosa responded and said, What I would recommend to you is a wig that doesn't sit three inches off my head.
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:10.079
So which Wendy tried to quickly shut that down, go to commercial break by telling her, Thank you for coming on my show.
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.079
Well, before that, Wendy did something I love.
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:18.880
I've noticed this anytime Wendy Williams gets got on camera, she looks directly at the camera with that face.
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.759
Like she makes a face and looks directly at the camera.
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.640
It's like a very fourth wall moment, and she does it a lot.
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.359
Wendy does like Wendy does it a lot, and it's just so funny.
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:30.559
It's just so funny.
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.720
It's like one of those Wendy isms that I love.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.319
Um it's just so freaking funny.
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:43.359
Um are there any uh any jabs that either one of them took at each other that you thought were particularly good?
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.759
I mean, I mean they were all good.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.440
I think I think when I love the moment of like Wendy's trying to snatch the book and I'm also snatching it back.
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:52.720
Like, oh no, I hold the book.
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:59.680
Oh yeah, and then and then Wendy's and Wendy's like, you you need to point Wendy's telling her like what direct another fourth wall, Wendy's like, you need to point it towards that camera.
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:01.599
So do you want people to see it or not?
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.200
Like they are both just being so messy for what?
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:08.319
That's like it was just like it was just such a it was such a funny interview.
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.920
And then uh like Wendy can't blame her because she tried to snatch it so rudely.
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:27.119
Yeah, and then Wendy said something about um Wendy said something to Amorosa about like, you know, like basically implying that Amorosa is like representing the angry black woman stereotype about pe about black women on TV.
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:33.119
Um and then Amrosa comes right back on her and she's like, well, I'd rather be an angry black woman than a buffoon and looks right at Wendy.
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:35.920
And Wendy had nothing to say.
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.279
Wendy Wendy was Wendy was kind of just sitting there chasing.
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:44.960
Um but I don't know the whole the whole the whole guest appearance was so funny.
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.039
It's it's so funny to look back on, you know.
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:54.559
I mean, it's one of those things, I mean, you if you look it up on YouTube, there are still people like re like as of recent posting comments discussing it.
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.640
It's just it's so good.
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:00.559
It's definitely one of the biggest standout moments in Amarosa's career.
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.559
And it was literally just a few minute appearance on a talk show.
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:18.320
So I think that that I think that goes to show how good Amarosa is at um well, I mean, Wendy says that Wendy's like, this is not the moment, this is not the time for you to look for your moment, and Amarosa goes, I know how to find my moment.
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.039
Amarosa does know how to find her moment, which is why I wrote the book.
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:27.280
Yeah, Amarosa can take a few-minute clip on a show and make the most out of it.
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:32.800
You know, that's why she is such a that's why I would call her like the professional of reality TV.
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:41.679
There's even random talking and interviews she'll have, she'll just drag some random lady to Mara from whatever show she's on, and I'm like, damn, Amarosa.
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:43.119
Like you didn't have another meme.
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:43.920
You made another clip.
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:44.320
Exactly.
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:45.360
You did it again.
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.000
She yeah, she she's done it again, America.
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:54.239
Um, is is there anything else you wanted to touch on with the Wendy Williams show appearance?
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:55.360
Not really.
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.000
Okay.
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:03.679
So um in 2010, we saw a very interesting show come out.
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:09.920
Um, I want to preface this by saying that I actually have not seen the show and I don't think Aiden has seen the show either.
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.039
No, I haven't.
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:11.920
I looked for it.
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.119
I wanted to well, I find that I'll be sure it was in the cast.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.639
No, no, I know you don't know who that is.
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.559
He's like a famous RB person.
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:19.360
Now hold on.
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:20.559
More popular, younger.
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.159
Okay, you know who Al B Shore is?
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:22.800
Okay, girl.
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:23.840
I do.
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.000
I was fine ass on Quincy.
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.639
I I um you don't watch Pose, but when they shouted him out on Pose, I was like, woo.
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:33.920
Okay, girl.
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:36.639
Why was Albie Shore in the cast?
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:37.679
That's what I want to know.
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.400
I don't know.
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.320
You know, it was it was a show.
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.840
It was it was a show in the early 2010s on reality.
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.039
Can you imagine Omarosa's Quincy's stepmom?
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.920
I can't believe honestly, I can't imagine it, and that's probably for the best.
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.079
So this show had an interesting premise.
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:08.159
So uh if you if if if you don't know about this show, basically Omarosa was always Donald Trump's favorite when it came to the apprentice of contestants.
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:08.800
I believe that.
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.119
I think I think he even probably said it at some point.
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:20.159
Um so he decided to give her her own show, which is interesting because I mean this is you know 10 years after the original apprentice, and two years after the celebrity apprentice.
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.000
So in 2010, he's finally giving her own show.
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.159
Only six years after the original apprentice.
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:25.039
Oh sorry.
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:25.840
Whoops.
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.920
Um, so anyway, still it's it's a it's a long ass time in the reality.
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.119
In reality TV time, it's a long time.
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.159
It might as well be it might as well be 50 years.
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.679
Um so Amarosa gets her own show.
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.360
It's a dating show.
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:55.280
Um, and I think and it's kind of like the way they're doing it is all of the men that are options are kind of professionals, they work in business, they're working professionals, they're successful, they're educated, they have money.
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:06.239
Um so it's kind of like they're giving Amorosa like very, very good options to pick from, which is unusual on a dating show.
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:28.079
Um, and I think that's part of why maybe this dating show didn't necessarily work and didn't make a major impact, because I feel like they had as far as like contestant-wise, I feel like they had people on the show that actually would like to protect their image and not look crazy on TV.
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.039
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:34.880
This is just a weird show.
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.360
I I just never pictured Amorosa on a dating show.
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:37.840
Yeah.
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:39.599
I think she just wanted a show.
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:57.519
Yeah, well, and the thing is I feel like having Amorosa as the host doesn't necessarily work all that well because I feel like where Amorosa shines is when she's in the compet when she's in competition mode and she has these competitors to really go back and forth with, you know.
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:06.079
Yeah, I don't think she could have really I think what make worked for like New York was that New York was actually invested in the guys and making some drama with them.
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:13.599
And Omarosa just wasn't, and I think when it gets revealed that literally as soon as the show finished, she went public with Michael Clark Duncan.
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:14.960
It all kind of makes sense.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:16.480
That she was probably phoning it in.
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.679
Because I'd be phoning it in if Michael Clark Duncan was my nigga too.
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.000
Like a Hollywood man, he wanted to like 6'6?
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.400
Like, yeah, screw these reality show, guys.
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:25.119
Right, yeah.
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:32.079
I if you if you've bagged Michael Clark Duncan, you've kind of already you've already kind of won as far as as as far as far as love and marriage go.
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.159
Um I wanna know like how that went down.
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.480
Like, did he see her on apprentice like, oh, I want the boardroom bitch from the apprentice?
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.239
Well, no, I mean me at an event.
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:48.480
I think I saw somewhere, I can't remember she said, I I think I saw somewhere that they they met at a Whole Foods.
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:49.920
Oh, that's a wholesome.
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:51.920
You know, I'm gonna start go shopping at Whole Foods.
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.360
Maybe I'll meet my man at Whole Foods.
00:38:53.599 --> 00:39:06.000
That's yeah, I saw that they like met each other at a Whole Foods and really hit it off, which is I mean the thing is, as as as much as I mean, Amaral said, you know, she's a lot, but she is very like charming.
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.239
You know, she's very she's very charming.
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.639
There's something very magnetic about her, you know.
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.920
There's something I think very warm about her and comforting.
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.199
Yeah, she's charming, she's gorgeous, she's intelligent.
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:19.679
She's a very protective lover.
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:25.199
I'm sure like if the waiter got her Michael Clark Duncan's order wrong, Amarosa's gonna handle it.
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:25.599
Right.
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.360
Amarosa's gonna handle it.
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:28.079
Exactly.
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:34.719
Yeah, no, she she she she won't hesitate to go back up to the counter and tell the McDonald's employee they fucked up.
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:41.280
Like, I feel like she's a very much like an independent woman, but also like a my man kind of woman, like a great combo of it.
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:42.880
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:49.760
She's yeah, I think that's I don't know if um Michael Clark Duncan's family would agree, but it's I don't know if this is the episode for that.
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.039
Ooh, I don't know.
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:56.159
I don't I don't feel like getting sued at this point in my life.
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.400
Um, so I don't know if I want to touch that.
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:06.000
Um but um but um the ultimate merger ended up having a season two with Takara Jones from America's Next Time Motto.
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:12.559
Oh see, I didn't even I didn't even know that they were just trying to give any iconic black woman and find her some love.
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:14.880
Was Trump involved in season two?
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:16.079
I think so.
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.559
I don't know how he knows Takara Jones, right?
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:27.280
I don't think because I mean at least at least in season one, his involvement made sense because him and Amarosa had that established history and professional working relationship, but whatever.
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:32.480
Well, I guess since he was the EP and they were like, oh, TV won won in another season, he was like, okay, I'll take the money.
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:33.039
Right.
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.840
And Takara Jones kind of made sense.
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:36.880
Right.
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:48.320
Um so moving on from I I I would say that's the only flop in Amarosa's uh reality TV trajectory.
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:55.119
So moving on from that, let's go to the all-star celebrity apprentice in 2013.
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:05.360
So this season marked Amarosa to be the first, and as far as I know and recollect, the only person to compete on The Apprentice three times.
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.920
Yes, the boss the robber the apprentice.
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.079
Literally so iconic.
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:16.079
And so it just so it's it's always, you know, I think it's always fun to have Amarosa back.
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:26.880
I think it's uh I I feel like it's kind of like when they were kind of looking at past seasons and trying to decide an all-star cast for the Celebrity Apprentice franchise.
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.960
Obvious, I mean, pro that was probably the first name that came up, you know.
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.840
And they're like, we know she'll do it, just throw her this amount of money and we get Omarosa.
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.639
Because I remember this season was like my first live Omarosa experience.
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:42.800
So I was very excited.
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:43.360
Yeah.
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.440
Just to be able to tune in week to week and under just to see the Omarosa experience.
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:55.840
Yeah, and the funny thing is, is that Ombarosa kind of did come into the show shaking it up a little bit.
00:41:56.079 --> 00:42:04.960
So this was not long after she lost uh Michael Clark Duncan to an unfortunate situation uh when she went to film this show.
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:13.440
I mean, I think it was like it was like I'm pretty sure like tapes were coming out from her 911 calls and whatnot as they were on the show.
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:14.320
Yeah, no, I think.
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.039
Yeah, when she went to tape the show, I mean it was very recent, it was very fresh.
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:32.400
And so Amorosa was definitely I feel like this season, she was definitely not playing to her character as much as she had in past seasons.
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.440
I feel like she was being a little bit more raw, you know.
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:36.719
I don't know if you'd agree.
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:44.639
Um I mean, now that you say it, I'm noticing it more, but I've definitely noticed that about a lot of her later appearances.
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:56.079
Like when we talk about celebrity big brother US, I definitely know and then her time I'm married to medicine, which is very brief, but yeah she's definitely become more human as she's got gone through her reality TV experiences.
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:56.639
Yeah.
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:09.599
Well, and I think that I think that just shows I think that goes to show too just her knowledge of the genre and how she is a professional because I think nowadays people even even if you are putting on a character, people don't like to see that you're putting on a character.
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:10.400
They don't like to know.
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:26.960
They peep people like wanna book because like I think in this modern era where reality TV is so overly manufactured and produced, I think people just desperately want to believe that their favorites on a show are just legitimate and very genuine and real.
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.800
But it might not always be the truth.
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:40.800
So interestingly enough, I mean this was Amorosa's shortest stint on a celebrity apprentice show.
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.039
She was fired in week five.
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.760
Um, so she was fired relatively early on in the show.
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:50.400
Yeah.
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:59.760
Um I feel like we kind of the funny thing though is even though she wasn't there long, she still made, you know, her usual impact.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.199
Um, like I said, she wasn't playing to her character as much.
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:11.119
I don't feel like she was picking fights as much as she had in previous seasons, but uh LaToya Jackson definitely activated her on this season.
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:19.039
Well, I mean, I think she kind of picked a fight with LaToya, but also I think she just didn't respect LaToya as a PMR leader.
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:20.639
She was like, let's just get to it.
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:21.280
But I don't know.
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:22.880
Would you want Latoya as a leader?
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:23.199
No.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.159
I don't know if I would.
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:24.880
No, she was.
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.320
Also, their team was so chaotic.
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:33.599
Claudia Jordan, Dennis Rodman, Latoya Jackson, Lil John.
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.159
Like, it's just almost a random assortment of people.
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.400
Of course, Amarosa was stressed the fuck out.
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:39.039
Right.
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.639
It's it's definitely intense.
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:46.000
And I think um, and most of that team was fired pretty early on.
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:46.800
Yeah.
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:48.800
I mean they they they were sucking.
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:53.760
But it was funny, there was like a big period of time they would be in the boardroom, they'd all be like, it's Amarosa's fault.
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:54.960
She's the cancer of the team.
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:56.880
But then the PM wouldn't bring her back.
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.039
So she would just be sitting there calculating.
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:00.000
I know, right?
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.920
Well, I think it's kind of like because I mean Amarosa truly like she's lethal in the boardroom.
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:04.480
That's true.
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.199
They're probably I know Latoya was definitely scared of that boardroom.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.639
Well, I think because I mean the thing with Amarosa is she can fully sabotage her team.
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:14.400
She can sabotage a PM.
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:22.639
And if they take her into the boardroom, she will somehow make a convincing argument to why it's there, like the PM is like completely at fault for the lots.
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:23.199
Right.
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.480
Like, and then Donald Trump would be like, how did you let Amarosa fuck up your whole operation?
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:26.960
You're fine.
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:27.599
Right?
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.079
That yeah, that's kind of that that's kind of the thing at this point.
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:36.320
I mean, Amarosa's reputation is well established, so it's kind of like it is kind of like if you fall for her tricks, it's it's a little bit on you.
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:46.480
Um, but yeah, so this season, or this season definitely produced some legal drama as well.
00:45:46.960 --> 00:46:00.079
Um after so I just want to start uh this section by stating clearly that these are LaToya Jackson, commonly known as Latoya's words, not mine.
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.679
This is not an opinion that I hold whatsoever.
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:20.320
I do not uh I do not prop this up, I do not endorse this, but uh Latoya apparently decided to make a remark while this season was airing, um, claiming that she believes Amarosa probably pulled the plug on Michael Clark Duncan.
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.880
Was that in her exit interview?
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:24.480
Oh yeah, it wasn't.
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:25.199
Something like that.
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.480
She said, yeah, as she was getting to the limo or something like that.
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:33.599
She said Amarosa probably pulled the plug on Michael Clark Duncan and that she was with him for his money.
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:41.360
Um and that's Didn't she also say it that um well he, as we all know, Michael Clark Duncan died of a heart attack.
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.320
Latoya Jackson claims that Omarosa gave it to him.
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:45.199
Yeah.
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.079
Yeah.
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.239
And that's a sentiment that Michael Clark Dunstan's family may or may not agree with.
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:50.960
I don't know.
00:46:51.199 --> 00:47:03.679
Um but um Amarosa um decided to issue a very public warning to I mean, I would I I mean, I think it technically it was a cease and desist, but I mean it was more than that.
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:20.079
Like Amarosa did the the talk show circuit, even making another appearance on the Wendy Williams show, basically call ref uh coining the term Litoya Jackson, um giving LaToya a nickname that will stick to her that stick to her to this day.
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:27.199
Um and she publicly declared, like, you have 24 hours to retract that and apologize before I sue the shit out of you.
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.440
And did Latoya retract it?
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.679
And I'm pretty sure she did.
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.159
I think she waited until the last hour, but I think she did.
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.199
I think she did apologize.
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.760
I think she did issue a public apology.
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.239
I mean, I would, because I mean definitely what she said.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.400
I mean that Yeah, that's that's a lot.
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:45.039
That's a lot.
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.079
What she said on TV is de- I mean, it's defamation.
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.760
It's absolutely defamation.
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.159
Almost surely had a case.
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.840
You know, the thing is with Latoya, I mean Latoya, I mean Latoya, you know, she knows a lot about defamation.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.760
She's been in that game for a long time.
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.960
Uh I mean Omarosa.
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:11.119
Oh my god.
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:17.360
Omarosa explained it very clearly on the Wendy show of Latoya's history with making claims and statements.
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:24.800
Oh yeah, no, I remember uh Almarosa said somebody would somebody that would do that to their own family.
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.239
And then when Wendy tried to act like she didn't know Wendy wanted her to Wendy was like, what did she do?
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:30.960
What did she do?
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.440
Like Wendy like wanted her to explain herself.
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:33.920
And you know what?
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:39.119
In the spirit of Almarosa, we're also not going to explain what she did to her family.
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.199
Y'all can do that research on your own.
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:42.400
You know, Google is free.
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:43.280
Google is free.
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:44.239
Well, I thought she said it.
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.519
I was on the breakfast club where she's that was probably the breakfast club where she had more.
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.119
Well, yeah, because you because you know the you know she's not gonna give Wendy the the the moment.
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.239
Wendy was looking for her moment in that at that time.
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:07.599
Um so yeah, uh definitely despite her short stint on All-Star Celebrity Apprentice, Amarosa once again stole the show.
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:14.159
I mean is isn't it crazy that Lisa Renna was on that season and Amarosa was more memorable?
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:15.519
Right?
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.559
I'm sure Lisa Renna wanted no smoke with Omarosa.
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:20.000
Absolutely not.
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.840
I mean, definitely it's it's probably for the best that they were not on the same team.
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.039
Because can you can you imagine?
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.079
That would have been funny.
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:28.559
I would love I would I want to see them interact now, actually.
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.679
I mean, can you imagine Lisa Renna and Amros on the same team?
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:32.480
Insane.
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:34.800
That would have been crazy.
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.039
Especially with Claudia Jordan already there.
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:38.480
Am Latoya.
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:39.519
Right.
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:46.000
And um my understanding is that this Amros and Claudia Jordan, this season of The Apprentice destroyed their friendship.
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:58.320
I think so, because then she was on the Breakfast Club talking about her and her having a horri story and horror combined, if you don't pick up on that and just pretty much just dragged Claudia through the dust.
00:49:58.400 --> 00:49:59.360
I was like, oh wow.
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.519
But yeah, no, they did not recover from this.
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:03.920
Well, and then maybe they're friends today.
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.159
Well, and then didn't Amarosa's mom go on to punch Claudia Jordan or something?
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:09.199
Wait, what?
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:10.880
Nah, I'm Googling this.
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.599
Teresa Manigal did what?
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:15.199
You didn't know about that?
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:15.840
No.
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.440
You're you're you're you're you're breaking some news to me.
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.559
Oh yeah, July 2013.
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:24.800
Breaking news BET Awards.
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.320
Breaking news.
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:41.440
Well, yeah, no, apparently they were doing the red apparently, you know, P Claudia and Amrosa, they were doing the like the red carpet for the BET Awards, promoting the celebrity apprentice, doing all that, and apparently Amorosa's mother was there, and she like straight up just walked up to her on the red carpet and punched her.
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.519
Not Mom Marosa punching her in the arm.
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.679
Honestly, uh Honestly, Amros's mother should have gone after LaToya, but Oh lord.
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.960
Well now we know Mom Marosa's about that life, so right.
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.519
She will defend she will defend her child.
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.599
I'm surprised she didn't try stuff to Janice because she she was there when that shoot happened.
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.280
Oh lord, can you imagine if she can you imagine if she whooped Janice Dickinson's ass?
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.960
I I would pay money to see it.
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.119
I feel like her bones are too brittle.
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.880
Like it was like it would not be good.
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:31.679
Okay, so moving on, moving on, moving on from the All-Star Celebrity Apprentice, also in 2013, um, Amarosa made an infamous appearance on Bethany Frankel's short-lived talk show.
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.519
That we previously mentioned in our show, in our episode The Failed Adventures of Bethany Frankel.
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.719
Yeah, I don't I don't I I think I think this will air after that.
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:41.280
I don't know.
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.360
But uh Oh yeah, we haven't figured that out.
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:47.440
We gotta break into walls.
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:55.119
But uh Alamorosa's appearance on this show, it was kind of like it was kind of like an updated version.
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:58.480
Uh it was like a newer version of her appearance on the Wendy Williams show.
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.800
Although I think Bethany was less equipped to handle her than Wendy was.
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.559
Yeah, Beth Bethany set herself up with these dumbass questions.
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.079
Because at least Wendy, they had a back and forth in an exchange.
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:19.280
Yeah, well, and I guess like Beth Bethany had to have her talk show people frantically telling people to cheer and lighting up signs, like she needed backup.
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:23.119
Yeah, well, and I guess it was kind of a similar situation to the Wendy Williams show.
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:34.559
So, like, I guess Amarosa was under the impression that her and Bethany had like a decent relationship or like a positive uh relationship to some extent.
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:40.320
Um, but I guess Bethany went on another show, possibly it might have been The View or something.
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:51.760
Uh Bethany went on a show and kind of dissed Amarosa saying that she Amarosa doesn't have a brand and she's just doing she's just like a reality TV personality, and that's where they're different.
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:59.840
Because I think somebody kind of brought up Bethany and re and Amarosa's success from reality TV, and Bethany was like, Well, I have a brand, I have a real career, is what she said.
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:10.960
Um so that's kind of why Amarosa had seen that, and that's kind of why Amarosa came into that interview hot um and kind of caught Bethany off guard when she was kind of confronting Bethany on it.
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:17.840
Um And then of course, you know, Bethany adamantly denied that she said anything about Amarosa.
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.400
She's like, I never said that, you know, that's not true.
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:31.039
Um and then they had some some fact checkers come out, and Bethany's own fact Bethany's own fact checkers proved Amarosa right.
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.239
Um and then Bethany had to pay out Amarosa$10,000 because they made a bet.
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:41.360
That that that's how bold Bethany was that she was that's how certain she was that she was right.
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:43.840
Do you think she actually forked up to 10,000?
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:48.239
Probably not, but actually, no, maybe she did because I feel like Amarosa would have let us know she didn't.
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:53.840
Um that cheap bit to Bethany Frankel never made me.
00:53:54.480 --> 00:54:02.800
There there were some there were some good quips on this because Bethany, you know, kind of continued to insult Amarosa and insult Amarosa's career.
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:08.719
Amarosa uh very famously said to Bethany Frankel, um, you you you you make cupcakes.
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:09.599
I was in the White House.
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:10.559
Get a grip.
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:13.519
Which is true.
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.719
She was making them sugar-free cupcakes nobody wanted in Whole Foods.
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:17.119
Yeah.
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.519
Amarosa worked for how many administrations?
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:20.079
Exactly.
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.599
Amarosa definitely humbled Bethany in this moment.
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:28.559
Uh and then Amarosa also, well, actually, I I I think this is like one of your favorite moments.
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:32.480
So, do you want to tell us um about Amarosa's psychic abilities?
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.519
Well, didn't she tell you some stuff about the show only would only last one season?
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.440
One of the season I won't be here next year's.
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:45.440
Well, so what that's the thing is so what the thing is, what Amarosa did was Amarosa was like, oh, I'm still here all these years later.
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.360
I'm here 10 years in the game, still here.
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.840
And then she very passive aggressively said, I hope that this show is still here in a year.
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:54.239
And it was not.
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:54.960
It was not.
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:55.679
So I don't know.
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.280
Maybe Amarosa put maybe Amarosa manifested something.
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:05.199
Uh I think she's a very perceptive woman who who knows a lot of things.
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.920
She she knew damn well with that shade that Omarosa's uh Bethany's show would not last a year.
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.880
But uh I'm surprised Omarosa never got offered a daytime talk show spot.
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.800
Maybe she's too polarizing.
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.559
But she could even be in a panel talk or something.
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:21.519
Right.
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:30.079
So following this, I don't I think that Omarosa kind of slowed down her reality TV competition appearances for a while.
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.320
Um, she's kind of just doing her thing.
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.320
I know she met the man who would now become her husband.
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.920
She became a pastor.
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:58.639
Um And then obviously, I think what a lot of people I I think kind of what a lot of people kind of know her for now is she ended up hopping on Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, which was an interesting career pivot.
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:18.800
Um, but after her position as whatever, director of the sunken place, as they called it on SNL, shortly after being dismissed from the White House and somehow having a recording device in one of the most secure places in the country, she appeared on Celebrity Big Brother US.
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.199
Big Brother in the US is a strategic game.
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.119
Somebody wants to have a head of household, they can nominate two players for eviction.
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:36.239
Those players and some other players can play in the power of veto ceremony to remove one of those nominations, and then with the final nominees in the house, the rest of the house votes between them.
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:49.199
So very different than how some of the other games Omer also played, which although strategic, the decisions are ultimately being made by Donald Trump, and there were no real comp like there were competitions, but it wasn't like holding onto a wall.
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.599
It was just trying to, you know, sell meatballs or something.
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:52.239
Yeah.
00:56:52.480 --> 00:57:01.280
And yeah, you just you just weren't having the same aspect of like, I mean, people could strategize and sabotage each other and The Apprentice, but it wasn't the direct, I am voting you out of this game.
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:02.079
Yeah.
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:03.840
There wasn't that final setup.
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:11.599
Um I think one her casting was a big deal because she had just been in the headlines for being in the Trump administration.
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:12.559
Well, yeah, because this is a good thing.
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.599
And apparently there were rumors she got a million dollars to enter the house.
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.679
Yeah, that this was very shortly after she had been let go for her.
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:27.119
I I I think she maintains that she left by her own choice, but um that that you know, that is what it is.
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:33.840
Um yeah, I the thing is I've I've never been like very into Big Brother, you know this.
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:42.079
Um I've seen a little bit, I've seen a f a few seasons, but um, I definitely wasn't really checking for Celebrity Big Brother when it came out.
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:54.639
Um I know that I definitely saw it a lot in the news because like literally because of Amarosa because she was talking about the administration she had just worked in on like the live feeds and everything like that.
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:56.719
They were milking the hell out of those clips.
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:57.760
Oh, yeah, no, it wasn't.
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.719
That one clip of her telling Ross it's not good so dramatically.
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.920
Oh yeah, it's just like she should and then and then like and then him like, should we be worried?
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.960
And she just looks at him and not and like nods yes, and him, don't don't tell me that.
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.840
He was, but you know, he he he he knew he knew how to make a good scene in that moment.
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:24.480
He knew he knew he knew that Almarosa was giving him some good ass material to work with, and he helped and he and he el and he helped her with the scene.
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:25.519
He made it good.
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:26.639
That's true.
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:36.159
Just to see how she would one play strategically, but two, interact with everyone locked in that house.
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.320
Like, how was she really gonna be?
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:46.880
Yeah, and I believe she lasted almost I she lasted like I think to the final day of the game, right?
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.119
Yeah, she got fifth, I believe.
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:49.679
Yeah.
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.880
So very almost close, or fifth or fourth, I think.
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.400
Well, because pretty close to the end, but they they were have they had it out for her.
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:56.800
Oh, yeah.
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.119
She was pretty much a target by the end.
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.920
Yeah, well, I mean, and by her own by her own doing.
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:03.360
Let's let's keep that recurring.
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:08.480
I mean, honestly, I would argue it was more Brandy Glanville's fault, but what is it?
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:09.280
That's true.
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.519
Bra brand all roads lead back to Brandy.
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.880
Because Brandy did try to tank her game, but then they were trying to get Omarosa out, but then she had a little sheer moment.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.440
But was it?
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:18.960
She won that she won an HOA.
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:23.280
Yeah, well, and you and also like my thing is because I'm I like I said, I didn't watch this show in full.
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.000
I'm going basic I'm going completely off of some clips I've seen.
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:38.880
But didn't Brandy because Brandy and Amarosa, like they were on like an alliance, and Amarosa was doing shady things, and Brandy brought it up in an alliance meeting, and Amarosa got pissed and defensive and kind of blew up a little bit.
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:40.800
I mean, yes.
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.440
But but did Brandy didn't need to do it like that?
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:44.480
Maybe.
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:58.320
But you know, I mean it's it's it's it's what I it's what I would do if my if my if I like if I just happen to notice my my ally having a conversation with somebody, and then when I bring it up, they are they try to lie and say, like, I didn't talk to him.
00:59:58.639 --> 00:59:59.519
Oh lord.
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.320
Well, I I feel like Almarosa would be better at damage control with the other side than Brandy.
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:04.639
Yeah.
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.360
So maybe Brandy should have had some trust and faith in her allies.
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.440
Maybe, maybe, maybe she should have, maybe.
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.719
But it's also like, how how much can you trust Almarosa?
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:13.599
That's true.
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:23.760
But also like the people that Almarosa really wanted to work with, aka the people she thought were good sheeps, aka Rudy fucking Rudy from both the Cosby show and Meta World Peace, they both quit the game.
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.000
So she was really trying her best towards the end.
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:27.199
She was trying her best.
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:27.840
Mm-hmm.
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:29.039
Yeah.
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.440
I think she's a strong strategic player, but I don't think we're surprised by that at all.
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:34.960
Yeah.
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.519
No, she definitely she definitely came in.
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.880
I I think out of all the celebrities, she's the one who I would most expect to like.
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.559
I like I would be shocked if she wasn't playing a strategic game, you know.
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.280
Um because that's just who she is.
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.239
I mean, she'll she'll she'll go on a show where it's not the point is not to be strategic and she'll be strategic, you know.
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:53.920
It just is it's who she is.
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:55.199
It's in her nature.
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:57.280
She she's strategic on a talk show up here.
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:58.320
It's like, come on.
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.840
That thing, she's just she's just smart, you know.
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:06.480
That's just the thing that's the thing with Amarosa, is she she's just smart, she's an intelligent person.
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.719
She can't And surprisingly, she was well received by like the fandom on Big Brother, I feel like.
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:19.679
I know, especially because like obviously I think a lot of people weren't happy with her considering recent political stuff.
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:35.280
Um, but you know, she definitely I think being on Big Brother kind of helped rehab her public image a bit and kind of like kind of like repopularized her with the reality TV viewing community.
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.000
Yeah, and I think it helped that she was like a fan of the show.
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:39.519
She was like trying to play the win.
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:40.400
Yeah, for sure.
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.159
She was ha she was excited to be there.
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:52.400
She that's that's the thing with Amarosa that I like is I feel like I've never watched Amarosa on a show and felt like she wasn't enjoying herself being there.
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:53.360
You know what I mean?
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:58.000
Like, especially with like celebrities that are on real like that go on reality shows and stuff like that.
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:03.519
I feel like sometimes they're just truly phoning it in and they're just miserable, and you can tell they think they're above it and they don't want to be there.
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:06.400
But like they're because they're broke and they gotta pay their taxes.
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:06.960
Exactly.
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:08.000
They just want the check and everything.
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:10.400
And on don't don't get me wrong, Amarosa wants a check.
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:19.679
But um, like Amarosa, like I just feel like she's just always happy to be there and she's always excited to you know to see what she can do with the show and everything.
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.360
So I appreciate that about Amarosa.
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:21.920
I really do.
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:28.480
She she truly um does not take because you know the thing is reality TV fans are really good fans.
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:37.039
Like we're very we're very ride or die, we're loyal, we'll fight um for our faves and everything, and Amarosa does not take us for granted, you know.
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.760
She's a real one, she understands the power of reality TV.
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:49.599
Um, and she has for a very long time, you know, she understood the power of reality TV and what you can do with the platform way before most people did.
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.280
Um, so that's why she has like four books out.
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.440
Right, and so this is something I wanted to touch on real quick.
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:08.559
It's not really much to talk about, but Amorosa would later go on to appear on the Australian um equivalent of Celebrity Big Brother.
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:15.519
I think it's like Big Brother VIP or something, um where she was the first house guest to leave.
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.599
She left on day um four, I believe.
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.880
And she was nominated by that fraud Caitlyn Jenner.
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.440
Yep, Miss Caitlin Jenner.
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:31.280
Like that's like whenever something bad happens on a show, I can usually blame Caitlin Jenner for what I find.
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:37.039
Um so yeah, I mean that was like unfortunate.
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:44.960
There's not really any moments on that sure that stand out for me, but I mean Amrose, I don't think, was really given much of an opportunity to make moments and kind of make her reality TV magic.
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:52.400
Yeah, they were just running the Trump stuff into the ground, like she was still doing interviews about her time with that administration, which is crazy.
01:03:52.639 --> 01:04:03.599
Yeah, no, I think that that's the thing, is I think unfortunately, because of Amrose's involvement in the administration, I think no matter where she goes moving forward, it's always gonna be brought up, I think.
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:04.000
Yeah.
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:13.360
Because I think, I mean, America's clearly not over the Trump administration, like we're it's still like such a major part of daily discourse and discussions to this day.
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:22.960
You know, I think this is something we're gonna be talking about in general for a long time, and I think anybody involved in that administration, they're gonna have that stain on them for a long time to come.
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:34.960
Um so are there any other like amarosa moments or quotes or anything just fun that you want to touch on before we kind of finish this one off?
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:36.800
Because I have something in mind.
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.599
There's just this one little talking head moment she had I thought was funny.
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.320
It was just some random woman who was asking her about Black Lives Matter.
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.960
She was just like, how do we go from Iraq to Black Lives Matter?
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.079
Stay focused, Samara.
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:50.320
Samara was just gagged.
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.400
Samara did not know what to do.
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:53.039
Right.
01:04:53.199 --> 01:05:06.079
I mean, and and and you know, she kind of had a point because that that's the thing with Amrosa, is like she is not gonna let someone that is conducting the interview like bulldoze over her and try to play around and switch topics on her and everything.
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:08.719
Like, she's like, we're gonna talk about what we're gonna talk about.
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Um, I remember a really funny moment she had um after she entered the White House and released those recordings that she managed to get from the Situation Room.
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Um, she was being interviewed, I believe, by um this person woman from today.
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Um, don't know her name, don't care.
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Um she was being interviewed, and this lady was all over the place.
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She clearly was not prepared to interview Amarosa.
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She was trying to rush Amarosa through per certain things.
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She was trying to switch the topic around, similar thing there.
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And I remember Amarosa.
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Oh, it was her name was Savannah.
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Because I remember Amarosa was like, Calm down, Savannah, we'll get there.
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We'll get to that.
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He's a good man, Savannah.
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Yeah.
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But uh sorry.
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Um but yeah, that interview was so funny because Amarosa really just took over, and this girl kept trying to ask Amarosa.
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Questions that she did not want to answer, and Omarosa was not wanting it.
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Oh, it's like that when that PA was interviewing her under Surreal Life.
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Yeah, Amrosa was like, I'm gonna answer the questions I want to answer.
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This is what I want to talk about.
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That's all we're doing.
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We're not doing like we're not talking about things that I want to talk about.
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Um, when she tried that with Don Lemon, he he he cut her mic.
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He said, We're not doing this today, Almarosa.
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:42.800
So another just like really funny moment that I want to talk about is I guess back in 2004, like uh when Omorosa was getting her initial taste of fame from appearing on The Apprentice, um, she was scheduled to appear on Jimmy Kimmel Live um early in the talk show's history.
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And I guess um she apparently she saw a lie detector test being set up backstage, and she refused to go on air and allegedly fled this the building.
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Um and so here here's a quote um from a spokes per a spokeswoman for the Jimmy Kimmel show.
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Um the lie detector test wasn't even for her, it was intended for Jimmy's uncle Frank, a regular character on the show.
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But when Amarosa saw it, she just freaked.
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Does it try to just like disappear from backstage and didn't do the show?
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I guess, yeah, because I mean she ever she's crazy.
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She just didn't, yeah, she just like left the building.
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She was like, nope, I'm not doing this show.
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Um and um apparently we tried this is another quote, we tried to calm her down, but she kept saying, I'm not going on stage with that lie detector test.
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Then she just walked out.
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It could have been a problem because we're a live show.
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Luckily, luckily, Cameron Manheem of the practice was also a guest, and so she just stayed on a while longer and cracked up.
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So basically they just panicked to fill up that thing, yeah.
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They they just kind of panicked to fill up the time that was not being filled because Amarosa knows like Amarosa just left.
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Um, but I don't know why.
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That's like that's just the the idea of Amarosa seeing a lie detector test and just running out is just so funny to me.
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She said, We're not doing this, absolutely not, not today.
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And you know, I don't know, I don't know what that says about Amarosa, but you know.
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I think it says she only does what's lined up in her contract, which makes her smart.
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Okay.
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You know what?
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That's that's that that's a good response.
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Uh all right, Kim Fields.
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Good word.
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Good word.
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We need to do a Kim Fields episode someday.
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Uh everyone, please let us know if you want to.
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I gotta watch the facts of life.
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Every no, we're watching the Real Housewives of Alana.
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Um, we're not talking about the facts of life.
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But um, everyone let us everyone let us know if you want us to talk about Kim Fields.
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Um Amarosa, iconic reality TV character, iconic person in general, um, very accomplished individual, very educated individual, uh, very quotable individual.
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She's there's so many quotes that you could use for that you could use for Amarosa's repertoire.
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Um just so great.
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Such an iconic reality TV uh character, one of the greats, for sure.
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So, would you say that she's on your reality TV Mount Rushmore?
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Would she be one of those four faces on the mountain?
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I think that while her legacy is forever stained by certain choices she's made over the more recent years, um, particularly in politics, I do think that she belongs on the reality TV Mount Rushmore for sure.
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Because I mean she her her impact is undeniable.
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She has truly shaped like what the expectation is and what the blueprint is for um not only it extends beyond a reality TV villain, it's just a reality TV character in general, you know.
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She's she's like one of the OGs of it.
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She set the standard of what of what you know of how you of like what you need like what level you need to deliver at if you want to be a compelling reality TV character.
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Okay, note takers, and that is it for our one-off on Amarosa.
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01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.079
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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Have a great have a great day, everybody.