139. Challenge Cutthroat (2026): Episode 6

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Hello, hello! Welcome back to the Off The Hook podcast.
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I am here today with Leek. Ben is not here today.
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It is Labor Day weekend and he's busy, but we're
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here to talk to you about The Challenge, um, season 42,
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episode 6. And there's kind of a lot to talk about,
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I guess. I mean, it was like, I... I really
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like Heights Over Water challenges, and we got that today.
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We had a great elimination. We had some drama. I
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liked this episode. Did you like the episode?
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Hey, everyone. Yes, I liked the episode.
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I thought it was good.
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You know, I love a little drama.
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Heights Over Water is always good to see people in
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that type of challenge, especially people that have a fear
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of heights.
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I love to see it.
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I feel like I would not be able to, even
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though you're, like, strapped in over, like, cement or whatever,
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I feel like that would scare me way more than
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heights over water. Because for me, like, I can swim. Yeah,
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the landing might be, like, eh. But, like, I think
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I know enough that that probably wouldn't be an issue. So,
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I don't know. I mean, I don't know, because... Tony
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was able to swim and he lost his spleen. So,
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I mean, you really don't know. But I think I
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would be more comfortable with a challenge like this, except
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for I do not have hardly any upper body strength.
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So this would be a challenging one for me.
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This would be a challenging one because I don't know
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how to swim. You ask people, I am a Black
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person that don't know how to swim. If I was
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in shape, maybe. But like you said, I have no
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upper body strength at all. The way that some of
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them was holding on to that ring, I'm just like, wow,
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that's impressive.
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I was on the swim team when I was a kid,
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and so I definitely know how to swim. And my
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workout when I go to the gym, my favorite, is
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swimming laps. I swim up to a mile at a time.
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I don't know if I could not do a 40 final.
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There's no way I could swim that much. But I mean,
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I can go a mile. I can swim. So I
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think I would be okay at some of these things.
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But this Daily Challenge was called Trial by Terror. And
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basically what they did, they were 30 feet above the water.
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And there was... These rings were all different colors. And
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they had to go across from platform to platform by
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grabbing the right ring. And their team was kind of
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helping them out with... which which brings to grab um
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a lot of people really really really struggled with this
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cara maria she could have gotten across but her team
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kind of led her in the wrong way miscommunication um
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if nothing else but the only three that actually made
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it across were leo cory and chris you don't think
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it's a coincidence that it was all guys that made
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it across personally Because, and the reason why I say
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that is because, like, as a girl, like, with a
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very short wingspan, I don't know. Like, that would be
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really challenging to me. And I think that Corey, Chris, Leo, like,
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they're all guys. They probably have a lot longer reach.
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And it was probably a lot easier for them to
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be able to reach each of the rings than it
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would for some of the girls. I wish some of
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these had, like, I mean, you can't have an equalizer
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and something like this, but. I wish that that could
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be a thing because I don't think it's a coincidence
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that none of the females really did well in this.
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I was happy for Leo, Corey, and Chris. A great team.
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You know, I was happy for them. I didn't realize
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that CT was getting heights. Like him and Michelle, I
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didn't realize that was like a fear of heights.
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So CT has had a fear of heights since season 40.
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And it's because he, like, took, like, a bad fall.
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Did you watch season 41 last season? No. No? Okay. Yeah,
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so season 41 last year, or last season, they really
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showed a lot of CT trying to overcome that fear
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because in 40 he fell and he hurt his back
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really bad.
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Oh, okay.
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On a heights challenge, on a heights over water. And so.
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All 41, whenever they did a heist challenge, it was, like,
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pretty much all of the season 41 rookies that came
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back this season saying, like, CT's washed up, he can't
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do it, he can't perform. And he performed terribly. But
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the biggest thing was, yeah, so that's, like, a new
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fear of his because he got hurt.
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Oh, okay. That makes sense.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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But I was surprised that... I was surprised Josh... Didn't
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get over there, but I was rooting for Nelson. I
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wanted Nelson to get over there.
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Yeah, he did decent.
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He did decent. He did better than Josh, but I was,
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you know, rooting for Nelson.
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I wish that there was, like, more of, like, a tally. Like,
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you got X amount of points for, like, making it to, like,
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the first round. I heard Deb call it a lollipop
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in a podcast, and now that's all I can think of.
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But she made it to the first lollipop. That should
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have been five points. Everybody that made it there. But
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I don't know. I guess with three people making it
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to the end, it probably doesn't really matter that much anyways.
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Only for last place, maybe.
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What do we think about that blue team captain meeting?
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Oh, yeah.
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What do we think of that? Because I have some thoughts.
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I mean, I don't blame the rookies for banning together.
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I think that that's probably, for them, the smartest game move. Maybe, though.
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Because if you throw Nelson into elimination every time it's
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a guys week, then he doesn't really have a break,
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like a mental break, that ultimately could help the team overall. Yeah.
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see that side of it which would be like the
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the positive side plus like just not wanting to go
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in every time.
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Yeah i could.
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See i think what makes the most sense would be
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if it's a girl's week then they pick a girl
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to be captain if it's a guy's week they pick
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or wait no opposite opposite if it's a girls week
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then a guy is captain if it's a and so
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none of them are safe because their team is so
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small even when it's the three girls i mean that's
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only you know really three people to pick from which
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is not that much and it's going to be harmory
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every time so i'm glad that she kind of embraced
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that um i don't know i don't know what her
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elimination record is i should look that up.
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I thought um that conversation was okay. I get both sides.
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Like granted, they didn't know that it was going to
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be safety for a captain. Nobody knew that at all
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until TJ announced it once they pick captains and everything.
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But like, if I'm a rookie coming in and I
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get to be safe to a final, I'm not switching.
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I'm not going to switch and give that to Nelson,
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but I do understand Nelson wanting to be captain. So
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he can, like you said, get that mental break and everything.
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But yeah, that's, I don't, that's, I don't know. That's
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not that. That's not going to go well. That wouldn't
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go well at all because they're overpowered by rookies and everything. Yeah,
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they're overpowered by rookies and stuff like that.
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According to Google, she has 17 elimination wins, but I
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don't know if that counts this one or not.
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Okay.
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So maybe she has 18 now. They call her elimination queen.
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Yes. 15 flagship wins.
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Two spinoffs. Seventeen is tied with Johnny Bananas for the
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most overall.
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Oh, wow.
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So, yeah, I mean, that's a great... Seventeen is a lot.
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That's it.
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You gotta give her that props.
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A lot of people might not like Cora for whatever reason, but,
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you know, you gotta give her her props and everything.
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She's a great competitor.
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Um... So I was listening to Deb on Bananas Podcast
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and they were saying that that proposal scene when Will
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like fake proposes to her with a lifesaver gummy.
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What's this?
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That happened day two. What?
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I did see that. I saw that and I was
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just confused.
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I'm like, why would they show that?
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But I was like.
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By the time her elimination came around where she got
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eliminated that her and Will had like pretty much fizzled
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out so they kind of used footage from the past
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to make it seem like they were like still still
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going strong.
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I did see her say that I saw that online
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that is crazy but I wonder I don't get that
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at all because watching it she wouldn't have said that
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you would think that this relationship was going somewhere it
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wasn't fizzling out and everything even though we know it
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was a fake proposal and everything but you know but
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the fact that that was oh wow.
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Okay how did you see on netflix the show 20
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somethings no um so there's it was like it's basically
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netflix's version of real world and it put like i
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don't know six or seven strangers maybe five i don't remember,
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into a house. And they had to spend the summer together.
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And it was basically like, it only was one season.
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And it was, I think, in 2020. And then there
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was this guy on it, Michael, who went on to
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date this girl on the show. And then he later
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did this... gosh, what was it called? I'm going to
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have to look this up. Um, this virgin show, it was,
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are you my first?
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Oh, wow.
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And, um, Caitlin Bristow and, uh, Colton Underwood were the
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hosts of it. And, um, this guy, Michael, so he
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did 20 somethings and then he did, are you my first?
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And he had this like pretty big storyline and was
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in a big relationship on, are you my first Um,
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and it turns out he, like, wasn't actually a virgin,
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and it was kind of controversial. But anyways, so he
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recently posted something with Deb that was, like, my relationship advice,
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let your girlfriend have other boyfriends. And then, I don't know,
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it's just this whole thing, and it, like, um, had, like,
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it was, like, a four or five carousel post of basically, like, we, um,
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I don't know. She likes them, so they must be cool.
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We all had dinner together. I don't know. It was
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just this really weird... Really weird thing. I have no
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idea if it's true. I have no idea if they're dating.
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But it implied that Deb was the girl that was
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dating these four guys.
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Yeah.
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If we ever get a chance to talk to Deb,
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I would love to ask her about Michael. Yes, Deb.
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Come on on.
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I'm going to reach out to you, Deb. Come on in.
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Come on in the room.
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But just some... Just throwing that in there for, like,
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you know, some reality TV crossover, because he was on
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those two shows. But, of course, everybody knows everybody in this.
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Come on over, Deb.
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Come on over and spill it over here.
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Yes. Please. Spill all the Will tea. Spill all of the.
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I think Will's fine.
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I mean... Spill all of the.
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The Josh tea. I mean, we don't need to get
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into that. We can get into that, you know, another time, but.
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Yeah. Is that next week? Is it this week?
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You know, I, I don't know that we, we, we
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should say on the, on the podcast, but, uh, There's
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something coming, for sure. And she definitely, I guess my
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tease will be, there was, like, this clip that I
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saw of Deb on Bananas Podcast. I listened to it.
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I didn't watch it. I almost wanted to go watch
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it just for this clip, but I've seen the clip.
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But basically, she's like, and you're still friends with Josh? Still?
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Or something to Bananas? And just, like, side-eyes the fuck
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out of him. And yeah, I don't know. And then
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Bananas is like, he went to the premiere party. It
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was just the party. Yeah, right. We know you're rumbling
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with him all the time.
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I can't wait to see what happens next week.
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Yeah, for sure. What they show and what people talk about.
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I will be.
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But I don't care what they show or don't show.
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We're still going to talk about it because it has
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to be talked about. What they show or don't show.
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I will be on social media getting all the clips,
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getting all the quotes. And finding out what everybody has
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to say next week. If you don't know spoilers and
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you're listening to this podcast right now, just know, next
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week we all come prepared. Yes.
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We're going to be ready to have a conversation.
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Yes.
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It's going to be a crazy episode.
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Literally, I feel like I should just lay out all
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the cast members and then just try to find their
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quotes about it because everybody's going to have to address it.
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Not even just the cast members.
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Probably the people that's... The cast members that's not on
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is going to talk about it because.
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Well, we know at least Derek and Zach are. Jemmy,
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we know Jemmy is. Amanda, you know Amanda's going to have...
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Amanda's already been clapping about it. Yeah.
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You know Jemmy is definitely going to go in. I'm
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going to be tuned into her TikTok and waiting for
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her to post it.
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Oh, man. Oh, man. if you don't know spoilers though
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you're probably like what the fuck are they talking about so.
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We could get into the drama that happened this episode
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I was so excited a little drama but I was
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excited but you know with that whole night out and
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everything um you know it was just like a lot
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I guess they was mad at what's her name Annalie
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that's her name.
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Yeah they was mad at her I was just like,
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this is a lot.
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Was it that deep? Or I don't know.
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This is something I wish I would, like, come prepared. Like,
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I just want to be prepared next week. I'll try
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to be more prepared in general. But Justin said that
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on Instagram that this was, like, secondary to why he
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was mad. He was really mad about something that he
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said about Nelson. And Nelson jumped in and said that
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she said that she was concerned about how he would
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be able to perform in a final due to his amputation.
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So that's, like, what the beef was really about. And
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then this Josh thing was just kind of secondary.
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So, like, what was.
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I saw that line that she said that Justin said
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she said that.
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But, like, was she... write and accent as a teammate.
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Or no, like I'm not, no, no disrespect to Nelson
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and stuff like that. Cause you know, he's limited and
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you know, stuff like that, you know, what she writes
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and stuff like that. How does she exit? And I
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also feel like Justin was drunk and just, he was drunk.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay. I think a lot of different things can be
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true here. I understand the perspective of like, Yeah, you're right.
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It is her teammate. But have we really seen, what
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have we seen his leg hinder him in so far?
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We saw, like, the not-so-fast, they let him reset. Do
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you think, when his leg fell off, do you think
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that during a final they would give him the same
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privileges if it was something like that? I think so.
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I mean, I think probably. I don't know where exactly
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he landed in the run, but I know he wasn't last.
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I know CT was last. So in the swim, I
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think he was a better swimmer than he used to be,
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to be completely honest. So the thing is that Nelson
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has always been good, but he's never been the best.
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Nelson went 50-some dailies without winning. So going 50-some dailies
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without winning one, I mean, what's the difference? There's not
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a difference. That I can see. Because he was never
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good at dailies. He was always good at eliminations. And
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he won an iconic elimination.
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The one with Shane and Corey?
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That one? Or no?
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Well, no. No, they're not so fast. No, they're not
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so fast. Like, that's a stable challenge. It's iconic. And
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he beat Keanu, who is a comp beast.
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But I don't think the challenge would have brought him
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back if he was, like, a liability or just, like,
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he couldn't do that. I don't think they would have
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brought him back at all. I'm pretty sure that if
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the final, they would have... Like you said, they probably
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would have reset it.
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Imagine, like, he went against... Someone like... I don't know,
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who's not good at eliminations. Like Amanda. I love Amanda,
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she's my girl. But like, she's not good at eliminations.
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Yeah.
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You know, if he went against somebody like that on
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Not So Fast, it wouldn't be as impressive.
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Yeah.
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But he went against somebody who lasted in Big Brother
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because he was so good.
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Yeah.
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Like, I do not discount that win as like a...
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Keanu is a rookie. No, Keanu can fucking do damage.
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We saw him do damage.
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I think... Yes, exactly. And I think that... I don't know.
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I think that that win needs to be... I don't
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want to say elevated, but it needs to be celebrated more,
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I guess. I don't know. I feel like they're not.
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I told you that episode... I like, I was, it
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was emotional because I was like, I was so happy
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for him. You know, he finally came back, you know,
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and that was a great elimination and stuff like that.
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I'm not going to lie, going in it, I thought,
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what's the.
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Name, the other guy, how do you say his name?
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When he went, King Yu, how do you say his name?
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Keanu.
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Keanu.
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I thought he was going to win. I'm not going
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to lie to you. I thought he was going to win.
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Yeah.
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But I was surprised and happy for Nelson.
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I was, I thought he was going to win, but
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I was also rooting for Nelson because we'd seen Nelson
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on TV before.
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What a challenge so long. I was rooting for him,
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but when he won, I was.
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Just like, yes.
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So is it so ultimately my my you know opinion
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on this is is it fair for her to question
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her teammate in a final because he has a disability
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yes and no i mean yeah i guess because he's
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your teammate but no because he hasn't done anything to
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show that he is any worse than he was before
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I also saw with Justin that, and I think that
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this maybe had something to do with the Josh hand-on-leg thing,
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even though that's not what started it, is that Justin
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said that he knows Annalise's husband. He's gone out to
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dinner with them before. So I think that that also
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brings a different perspective into it. It's not just somebody that...
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you don't know, out of sight, out of mind, like,
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you know, pretend like it's not even their situation. Like, now, like, he, like,
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knows her husband, and I think that also has an
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effect on it, too.
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Yeah, because it's, like, I get, like, we love the
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drama and stuff like that and everything, but, like, Justin,
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he was going off. I was, like, he's been quiet
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for so long and everything, so it was exciting to see.
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Some type of drama and stuff like that, but, you know.
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I have a hard time believing that Justin has been
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silent this season. They haven't shown it, so it hasn't
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been anything that mattered. But that would be something that
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I'd be interested in asking a cast member, is, like,
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we saw this pop-offy Justin last season. Is this edited
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accurate to how he really was in the house? Yeah.
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That's true.
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Or did his drama just, like, really not matter?
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Yeah. Oh, we didn't talk about... Let's talk about Izzy.
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We're going to talk about the Izzy. We're going to
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talk about Anna Lee first, about how she talked to Leo,
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or we're going to talk about the Izzy and Corey stuff.
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Because I have some feedback on that stuff.
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I'm just.
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Okay, so you know... I mean, she obviously admitted that
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she did something wrong.
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Anna Lee, yeah.
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But you know that, like, it's real bad when you
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have to end somebody with Something with someone who you
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don't have a thing with. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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you know you crossed that line. And then you have
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to end the relationship that hasn't even started yet.
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We saw her cross that line.
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Yeah, we did. Yeah, I feel bad for her husband,
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for real.
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Yeah, it was just like... And that's crazy because watching it...
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You know, we watched it when she said her Leo's
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on that couch or whatever. And what she said, and
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I'm thinking like, maybe she thinks this ain't get played.
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But when she said the only thing she did, and
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I was like, oh, she know what she did. I
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was like, oh, okay.
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So I'm wondering if she thought that that wasn't on camera.
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And then they asked her about it in confessionals. And
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she's like, oh.
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Yes. Yes, Christine. We got the same mindset. I was
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thinking the same thing because she admitted it. I was like, hmm.
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Okay.
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This is.
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Yeah, no, they told her, like, we got this. You got...
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Address it if you want.
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Listen, I understand Leo is fine. I understand. But you
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have a husband. Does she have kids, too?
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I don't know.
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That must be embarrassing to watch that bit, you know, and,
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you know.
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Like, I wonder, like, if she went home and told
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her husband everything.
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that was that or just because the watch that back
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was crazy because what she said was unacceptable stuff like
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that you know i won't put all family oh she
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doesn't have kids.
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No they have a farm and a bunch of animals
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but they do not have kids.
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Oh farm animals okay okay but yeah that was yeah
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i'm i'm with you i don't think she knew they
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was going to play that uh Because when you think
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about the episode, I didn't think about this until watching
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this episode. I was like, when they was on that couch,
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when she said that, I was like, she was saying
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it kind of low. So I'm thinking like, maybe she thought.
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The camera or the mic didn't catch it, but girl.
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They caught it.
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And 4K is out there. It's going to get played forever.
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Oh yeah, for sure. What do you think about kind
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of switching tracks here a little bit, but still kind
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of on that night out or whatever? What do you
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think about Tori saying that in her mind both Deb
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and Izzy are rookies because she was not on 41
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and not really giving Izzy any credit? Because Izzy didn't
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really do much. So, I mean, it's not super inaccurate.
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But also I feel like, I mean, Izzy came in
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second on that run. I mean, not that that makes
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her not a rookie, but....
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So let me ask you a question.
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I didn't watch last season.
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Was Izzy or Deb on last season?
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Izzy was. Deb was not.
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Okay.
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So... So Izzy had a showmance with Rogan, another person
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who was in a relationship while filming. And his girl, like,
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posted happy anniversary while they were filming, and he was
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hooking up with Izzy. And... I like how you put that.
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So they... supposedly he I broke up with her first
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and I told her that this was a possibility but
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you know whatever um I she obviously didn't think y'all
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were that broken up if she's posting happy anniversary so
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I don't know I don't know I'm just saying sometimes
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I think men like actually don't understand that they need
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to break up with somebody to be broken up you
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can't just do it in your head yeah I don't
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know I don't know I love Rogan. Yeah, but Rogan
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was out first and Izzy was out, I don't know,
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but shortly after. She didn't last super long. So it
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wasn't like she made it to the halfway point or anything.
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She hooked up with Rogan. That's about it.
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I feel like that was going to go anyway because
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let's keep it real. She wasn't putting Michelle in. Tori
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was not putting Michelle in at all. So I feel like, but.
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I didn't know.
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At first I was like, maybe she Maybe Izzy might
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go in and stuff like that, but Tori probably thinks
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Izzy is stronger than Deb. So... Yeah.
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I don't think that that's... I don't think that that's true.
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I don't think that... Like, have you seen Deb's abs?
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00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:41.970
Oh, yeah, I've seen it.
489
00:26:42.549 --> 00:26:43.130
She's not.
490
00:26:43.269 --> 00:26:44.569
Amazing. Amazing.
491
00:26:45.470 --> 00:26:47.910
Deb is not not strong. She was in the... I
492
00:26:47.950 --> 00:26:49.950
did not know this until watching the episode, but she
493
00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:52.099
was a gymnast. She was, like, in the.
494
00:26:53.789 --> 00:26:58.210
What was it? Children's Olympics or whatever. Junior Olympics. There
495
00:26:58.230 --> 00:27:08.329
we go. She like, she, sorry. But I mean, that's not,
496
00:27:10.369 --> 00:27:13.369
you're not, not athletic. Like she is athletic. I don't
497
00:27:13.390 --> 00:27:16.309
think that Deb is not strong, but I did hear
498
00:27:16.349 --> 00:27:18.670
Deb say on a podcast that her and Izzy were
499
00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:20.170
going to go back and forth. And if it was
500
00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:24.289
something really endurance based, like similar to Debs' first elimination,
501
00:27:24.309 --> 00:27:30.049
then supposedly they were going to put Izzy in instead.
502
00:27:30.390 --> 00:27:33.829
But I feel like rowing is endurance. It is.
503
00:27:33.869 --> 00:27:39.069
It definitely is. Because I saw that and I was like, oh, wow.
504
00:27:39.750 --> 00:27:42.390
Dude, I hate rowing. That would be my worst nightmare.
505
00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:43.170
I hate it.
506
00:27:44.549 --> 00:27:49.819
Rowing, I would rather do just about anything. I think
507
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.799
I don't Okay, I don't know. I have big boobs,
508
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:54.940
so I hate jumping rope, but that might be the
509
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.880
only thing I like less than rowing.
510
00:27:57.420 --> 00:27:57.720
Yeah.
511
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:01.200
Crazy.
512
00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:02.119
So funny.
513
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:10.680
But....
514
00:28:07.589 --> 00:28:08.170
What did you think?
515
00:28:08.430 --> 00:28:11.390
I mean, hold on. We're still on. Where are we
516
00:28:11.509 --> 00:28:12.430
on now? Are we on to Izzy?
517
00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:15.750
I know. We're kind of jumping around. I'm sorry. It's okay.
518
00:28:15.789 --> 00:28:18.970
It's okay. Because this episode was so good. This season
519
00:28:19.029 --> 00:28:21.500
is so good. Like, This is the first time I
520
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.859
actually really wanted to watch a season in a long time.
521
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:28.319
Honestly, I feel like we're maybe missing, like, okay, if
522
00:28:28.339 --> 00:28:30.369
you're on a streaming platform, I don't know if you
523
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.670
know this, like, CBS, Paramount +, whoever is editing these episodes,
524
00:28:35.450 --> 00:28:39.089
but you don't have to factor in the commercial breaks.
525
00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:44.009
These don't have to be 45 minutes, you know? Like,
526
00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:46.359
we can have an extra five or ten minutes, and
527
00:28:46.380 --> 00:28:49.119
that's fine. That's it. That's it. You know, I watch
528
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.339
some shows that are an hour and three minutes, like,
529
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:56.029
depending on the episode. Some, some, same show, some episodes
530
00:28:56.069 --> 00:29:00.549
are 57 minutes. Like, in streaming world, you don't have
531
00:29:00.589 --> 00:29:02.839
to add in the commercial break. I don't know why
532
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:08.809
they haven't figured that out yet, but they haven't. And, um,
533
00:29:08.950 --> 00:29:11.390
I would say that's, that's my only change this season
534
00:29:11.509 --> 00:29:13.609
is just give me like five or 10 minutes more
535
00:29:13.670 --> 00:29:16.609
of the, the house stuff, the drama, the, the fun
536
00:29:16.670 --> 00:29:18.880
stuff that they're talking about on podcasts that we're not
537
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:23.200
seeing like the, you know, like, I don't know. I mean,
538
00:29:23.220 --> 00:29:28.119
I guess we saw the stupid will and Deb proposal,
539
00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:30.940
but I don't know. Like there's, there's a lot. It
540
00:29:30.980 --> 00:29:32.890
sounds like they're having a good time.
541
00:29:33.109 --> 00:29:34.470
We did not really need to see that. I'm going
542
00:29:34.490 --> 00:29:35.349
to just keep laughing at it.
543
00:29:36.069 --> 00:29:38.259
No, we really didn't need to see that, no, but
544
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.990
I do appreciate seeing some of the like fun stuff
545
00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:47.289
that they're doing in the house. Yeah, I do. I
546
00:29:47.470 --> 00:29:49.950
do enjoy that. I think that's the only thing that's missing.
547
00:29:50.019 --> 00:29:54.539
I think going straight into the daily challenges like they're doing. Great. Actually,
548
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.119
what I really miss is the next on. That's the
549
00:29:58.140 --> 00:30:00.420
thing that like pisses me off the most. I think
550
00:30:00.460 --> 00:30:02.119
I wrote that on my notes. Yeah, I still hate
551
00:30:02.140 --> 00:30:04.160
the promo before the episode instead of the next one
552
00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:05.180
we were previously on.
553
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:12.119
Yeah. You definitely did. I still hate it. What about
554
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.279
the Izzy and Corey situation? Did you see, before we
555
00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:17.240
talk about that, did you see, like, what Corey posted
556
00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:20.460
on X about, like, the episode before it came out?
557
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.319
Did he delete it and then apologize to the girl?
558
00:30:24.339 --> 00:30:30.440
No. Okay, so, yeah, wrapping up the drama, I guess
559
00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:33.740
we can, I think that's the last of the... Drama, yes.
560
00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:35.500
We talked about Justin and Lee.
561
00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:39.440
Yeah, yep, we've talked about everything else, so, like, as
562
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:44.970
far as drama goes. So the last scene, Corey and
563
00:30:45.069 --> 00:30:49.829
Izzy are looking real close. Real close.
564
00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:50.829
Worth telling.
565
00:30:52.029 --> 00:30:54.670
And he even said, she's like, no, we can't, and
566
00:30:54.769 --> 00:30:57.890
he's like, we could go to the gazebo. It ends
567
00:30:58.490 --> 00:31:01.869
the last word. I don't even know if I can
568
00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:10.670
call it that. Noise is Izzy moaning. I mean. And
569
00:31:10.710 --> 00:31:11.809
then Taylor addressed it.
570
00:31:13.210 --> 00:31:17.130
You got it. Yes, girl. Pull it up.
571
00:31:17.309 --> 00:31:18.630
I'm almost positive I can.
572
00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:24.059
Because Corey did put something on X about the episode.
573
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:28.200
He quickly deleted it. I don't know why. He deleted it.
574
00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:34.599
Well, I think maybe he thought something else would be shown.
575
00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.759
Izzy was telling him when Nelson came up to him.
576
00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:47.779
I feel like Nelson, I guess he's trying to be
577
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.039
a good friend and stuff like that. But, you know,
578
00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:53.440
I'm a man. I don't cheat.
579
00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:55.789
I don't do that. But men are going to be men.
580
00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:56.910
They're going to do what they want to and stuff
581
00:31:56.930 --> 00:31:57.529
like that.
582
00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:00.690
I just feel bad for the people that's involved at
583
00:32:00.730 --> 00:32:01.549
home and stuff.
584
00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:05.150
Like that, you know?
585
00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:05.630
Yeah.
586
00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:07.589
Correct me if I'm wrong. Has Corey always been like,
587
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:11.789
I don't want to say a cheater or... Has he
588
00:32:11.829 --> 00:32:13.250
always been like a dog or something?
589
00:32:13.410 --> 00:32:14.329
Okay. Oh, no, no, no.
590
00:32:14.410 --> 00:32:19.029
Okay. So, Dirty 30. So, we're talking 12 seasons ago.
591
00:32:19.549 --> 00:32:22.369
He got the award for, like, hooking up for the
592
00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:26.329
most people or whatever. Like, literally, like, 12 seasons ago.
593
00:32:26.690 --> 00:32:31.150
But ever since... Okay, so, Ex on the Beach 1
594
00:32:31.150 --> 00:32:38.109
is when he met Taylor. Yeah. And before that, definitely fuckboyish.
595
00:32:38.529 --> 00:32:44.799
Post that... fuck boyish because there was a storyline on
596
00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:50.880
teen mom when, um, he was like kind of trying
597
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.869
to get back with Cheyenne a little bit, but was
598
00:32:52.910 --> 00:32:55.690
also like not letting Taylor go. And there was like
599
00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:58.049
kind of a love triangle between the three of them.
600
00:32:58.069 --> 00:33:00.569
I don't really watch teen mom, but I did try
601
00:33:00.589 --> 00:33:03.109
to tune into that. Cause I was curious about the
602
00:33:03.130 --> 00:33:09.990
Corey Taylor Cheyenne love triangle. And, um, there was, there
603
00:33:10.029 --> 00:33:12.289
was stuff going on then, um, But Ex on the
604
00:33:12.329 --> 00:33:15.430
Beach 1, I mean, I don't know. I have to
605
00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:18.210
look that up, too, when that aired. But that was
606
00:33:18.250 --> 00:33:26.009
a long time ago. And then after that, there were
607
00:33:26.089 --> 00:33:29.490
rumors of him. Okay, that was 2018. So that was
608
00:33:29.539 --> 00:33:33.460
eight years ago. And there were rumors of him, like,
609
00:33:33.500 --> 00:33:36.039
hooking up with somebody or something, cheating on her at
610
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:42.299
some point. But not, like, nobody on the show. Nobody
611
00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:48.099
on the show. For the most part, I think that
612
00:33:48.579 --> 00:33:52.980
he's pretty locked in with her until now. But I'm
613
00:33:53.009 --> 00:33:59.109
going to play what Taylor said. Yes.
614
00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:02.869
I just feel like people want me to crash out.
615
00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:04.730
They want to see what I have to say.
616
00:34:04.769 --> 00:34:06.029
They want to see the drama.
617
00:34:06.049 --> 00:34:08.889
I get it. I get it. I'd want to see
618
00:34:08.909 --> 00:34:09.070
it too.
619
00:34:09.889 --> 00:34:14.110
But I'm trying to use my brain of mine. And yeah,
620
00:34:14.130 --> 00:34:19.760
I'm trying to use my brain. But if I hear
621
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.980
the word fucking magnet or we're.
622
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.860
Not doing anything wrong, we're not crossing a line.
623
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:25.960
I.
624
00:34:28.900 --> 00:34:29.460
Swear, I.
625
00:34:31.619 --> 00:34:33.940
Swear I'm going to rip my fucking hair out.
626
00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.409
So you can't really hear that super as well as
627
00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:42.769
I was hoping. I had it turned up as loud
628
00:34:42.809 --> 00:34:49.610
as I could. I heard it. But that's what she,
629
00:34:50.150 --> 00:34:52.250
you know, like she's going to crash out about the
630
00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:55.530
magnet thing. And she's trying to keep herself together. And
631
00:34:55.690 --> 00:34:57.409
as she should. She has children to think about.
632
00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:00.889
I think people want her to crash out so bad.
633
00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:02.329
And she just.
634
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:06.289
She should crash out.
635
00:35:06.409 --> 00:35:08.929
She should, but I don't think.
636
00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:10.650
Nobody should judge her if she does.
637
00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:14.309
Yeah. But you know they are. You know they are.
638
00:35:14.329 --> 00:35:16.389
They're going to post it everywhere, judge her and stuff
639
00:35:16.429 --> 00:35:19.409
like that, and come at her. Are you still with him?
640
00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:21.969
Or whatever like that. They always do that to women
641
00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:23.619
and stuff. I hate it.
642
00:35:25.429 --> 00:35:30.320
Yeah. We can talk about this more when other stuff
643
00:35:30.340 --> 00:35:33.860
happens this season, but there's a reason why She's still
644
00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:39.159
with him. Okay. That is what it is.
645
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.980
Can't wait for the season to progress so we can
646
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.139
talk about more why.
647
00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:49.389
Yeah, right? Yes. And I hope Corey comes correct. And
648
00:35:49.809 --> 00:35:52.610
I know he doesn't really do podcasts. Hopefully he does bananas.
649
00:35:52.650 --> 00:35:56.309
That would be, I think, best case scenario. But let's
650
00:35:56.329 --> 00:35:58.489
be real. It's going to be Josh on that podcast, not.
651
00:35:59.309 --> 00:36:04.650
Who thinks? It's... I can't wait the next week because
652
00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:05.860
it's just....
653
00:36:06.630 --> 00:36:09.090
Yes, I do think it will be Josh on Bananas podcast.
654
00:36:09.230 --> 00:36:12.269
I don't think that it will... I think... Okay.
655
00:36:12.289 --> 00:36:14.409
That's his friend. Yeah, you're right. It's his friend.
656
00:36:15.690 --> 00:36:18.210
Even though... Yeah. It is going to be Josh on
657
00:36:18.250 --> 00:36:20.750
Bananas podcast and Bananas is going to be trying to
658
00:36:20.789 --> 00:36:26.559
get Josh to look PC. Yeah. And it's going to
659
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:34.139
be Nelson on Zach Nichols podcast. Yeah. And... Nelson was
660
00:36:34.260 --> 00:36:35.500
just on.
661
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.360
Nelson. I love to say.
662
00:36:43.909 --> 00:36:48.030
But Nelson just did. Devin and Polly's podcast last week.
663
00:36:48.110 --> 00:36:51.849
So I haven't listened to any of Polly and the
664
00:36:51.869 --> 00:36:55.670
Polly and Deb show yet. None zero episodes, but I
665
00:36:55.909 --> 00:36:59.130
do plan on starting to listen to it because they
666
00:36:59.170 --> 00:37:01.030
keep interviewing people. And that's what I want to hear
667
00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:01.610
is I want to hear.
668
00:37:02.489 --> 00:37:04.780
I'm listening to that Nelson episode. If Nelson comes on now,
669
00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:08.019
I'm listening to that because I need to know.
670
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.420
Nelson went on last week, so he doesn't even talk
671
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.480
about the things that we want him to talk about.
672
00:37:13.659 --> 00:37:14.820
That's why I.
673
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.340
Think that Nelson will get... I think it'll be Zach
674
00:37:17.389 --> 00:37:19.329
Nichols that gets Nelson. I really do.
675
00:37:21.949 --> 00:37:25.210
Remember when... I don't know if you saw that. Remember,
676
00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:27.210
it was on his story. They asked him about that,
677
00:37:27.329 --> 00:37:29.210
and he said when the episode air, he'll talk about
678
00:37:29.250 --> 00:37:31.119
it and stuff like that. I don't know if you
679
00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:32.159
remember that or saw that.
680
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.159
I do. I do remember seeing that. But I don't know.
681
00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:37.530
I don't know.
682
00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:41.090
Jimmy, if you are listening, I need you to get
683
00:37:41.130 --> 00:37:43.510
the tea from Nelson or somebody and talk about it
684
00:37:43.530 --> 00:37:46.550
because I know you don't care at all. At all.
685
00:37:47.050 --> 00:37:52.849
Yeah, really. For sure. Well, I feel like. I don't know.
686
00:37:52.869 --> 00:37:55.119
I shouldn't say because I haven't listened to the podcast.
687
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:59.019
But I feel like I can't imagine Devin and Pauly
688
00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:01.840
giving a fuck about what they say. Like, they're just
689
00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:05.860
going to say how they really feel. I don't know.
690
00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:12.489
But I should listen to that podcast before I make
691
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:16.190
that assumption. Maybe they'll be kissing production's ass the whole time. Oh,
692
00:38:16.269 --> 00:38:18.949
I didn't even name Challenge Mania. Who's Challenge Mania going
693
00:38:18.969 --> 00:38:26.860
to get? Definitely not Corey. Maybe they'll get Nelson. And maybe.
694
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.420
I forgot about their podcast. Okay.
695
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.239
I'm literally trying to think of who... I'm trying to
696
00:38:33.300 --> 00:38:35.949
match up the people and the guests. Who are they
697
00:38:35.969 --> 00:38:38.449
going to get next week? Because you're trying to get one... Oh,
698
00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:44.789
who's going to get Leo? Okay. Leo is on my podcast, right?
699
00:38:44.809 --> 00:38:46.469
Wasn't he just on somebody's podcast?
700
00:38:47.570 --> 00:38:52.469
Leo? Leo was on... Zach Nichols' podcast.
701
00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:56.139
Okay. I know we had a conversation at Inbox. He
702
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:01.440
doesn't really do podcasts unless it benefits him. So I guess, yeah.
703
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:03.059
Oh, really?
704
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:04.260
That's interesting.
705
00:39:04.699 --> 00:39:06.460
Oh, you know what?
706
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.880
And he respectfully declined.
707
00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:13.500
Well, that's... At least he responded to you.
708
00:39:14.179 --> 00:39:16.260
Yeah.
709
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.869
One thing I want to say about Josh before... We
710
00:39:21.889 --> 00:39:30.769
have other stuff to say about Josh. Is... Josh... Okay.
711
00:39:30.789 --> 00:39:38.369
So I, I followed Josh, um, before the season started
712
00:39:38.789 --> 00:39:40.630
because I wanted to see what he was saying about
713
00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:43.429
the show. If he was going to promote it at
714
00:39:43.469 --> 00:39:45.239
the time that I followed him, I had no idea
715
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.679
that he was going to be edited the way that
716
00:39:46.699 --> 00:39:49.980
he is, which is still blows my mind. I mean,
717
00:39:50.579 --> 00:39:54.409
truly blows my mind but whatever and he slid into
718
00:39:54.429 --> 00:39:59.570
my dms and he tried to sell me his workout
719
00:40:00.849 --> 00:40:08.469
thing and um i think that like his like niche
720
00:40:08.489 --> 00:40:12.030
is like as far as like his personal training goes
721
00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:17.809
or whatever is if he has a fan because he
722
00:40:17.829 --> 00:40:21.420
slid into one of my other friends dms too And
723
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.280
I think, in my opinion, he's looking for girls who
724
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.239
are bigger and could stand to lose some weight. And
725
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.880
trying to get them to, like, he's not trying to
726
00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:44.690
train girls who are, like, need I don't know. Like he's, he's,
727
00:40:44.809 --> 00:40:47.349
he's specifically targeting, I think girls that are bigger and
728
00:40:47.369 --> 00:40:50.030
trying to help them lose weight. And I, I like, um,
729
00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:54.530
Googled it and there's this Reddit thread about it. And, um,
730
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.219
all these people saying that it's a huge scam and
731
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.579
all this. And yeah, so that's, that's my, that's my
732
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.280
personal interactions with, with, with Josh or whatever. So he, um,
733
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.780
asked me when he DM me, like why I followed him.
734
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.179
And I was like, because you're hot. Isn't that the
735
00:41:11.219 --> 00:41:11.960
point of Instagram?
736
00:41:11.980 --> 00:41:13.949
Um, He is, he is.
737
00:41:15.489 --> 00:41:19.110
And, but I literally said that, and he goes, is
738
00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:20.909
that the only reason why you followed me? It has
739
00:41:20.969 --> 00:41:27.789
nothing to do with my fitness. And I was like, well, also,
740
00:41:27.809 --> 00:41:35.809
I'm looking forward to seeing you on the challenge. Like, literally, no,
741
00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:39.489
but yeah, so I had a brief interaction with Josh,
742
00:41:39.530 --> 00:41:40.230
and that's what it was.
743
00:41:40.869 --> 00:41:43.030
My only interaction with him was he came on a
744
00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:46.260
mental health podcast. And it was a great conversation. And
745
00:41:46.820 --> 00:41:48.239
I know he's been wanting to go on a challenge
746
00:41:48.260 --> 00:41:51.820
for a long time. So just, you know, hearing the
747
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:56.760
alleged stuff, you know, is... Disappointing. Yeah, it's disappointing and
748
00:41:56.780 --> 00:42:00.699
stuff like that. People on Twitter are eating him up.
749
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.559
On XR, eating this man up. Like, when that episode
750
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.559
dropped this week, oh, my God, it's going to be worse.
751
00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:09.929
I see some stuff. Sorry, Josh, but I was definitely
752
00:42:09.949 --> 00:42:11.909
laughing at some of them tweets and gifs and stuff
753
00:42:11.949 --> 00:42:17.280
like that. I was like, wow. So, I think he,
754
00:42:17.460 --> 00:42:19.920
like you said, he is hot. You know, you can't
755
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:25.059
deny that he's a hot man. But, it's real. I
756
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:26.980
can't wait till next week. I can't wait till it
757
00:42:27.179 --> 00:42:29.659
comes out. If they don't show when we talk about it.
758
00:42:29.659 --> 00:42:33.110
Because there's some questions I just got, you know.
759
00:42:35.250 --> 00:42:35.769
For sure.
760
00:42:36.329 --> 00:42:38.960
I think, like, let me... Point of off topic. So, like,
761
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:44.440
allegedly he said, it's not okay, but, like, I did...
762
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.949
You know, I feel like what he said and what,
763
00:42:47.090 --> 00:42:50.949
you know, remember Dee did? Mm-hmm. I feel like his...
764
00:42:51.090 --> 00:42:53.110
I feel like his might have been worse than Dee, but,
765
00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:53.969
you know, she just.
766
00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:55.489
Way worse. Yeah. I mean.
767
00:42:55.550 --> 00:43:00.050
She got it so bad. And it just... He got
768
00:43:00.090 --> 00:43:05.579
it kind of good and stuff like that, you know? So... Mm-hmm.
769
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:13.199
Unfortunately, it was... I would D truly they just wanted
770
00:43:13.219 --> 00:43:15.719
to make an example out of her and I don't
771
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.170
think that it did what they thought it did because
772
00:43:20.230 --> 00:43:25.429
she's also a minority she's also Asian yeah and it
773
00:43:25.469 --> 00:43:30.809
doesn't make what she said right I'm not defending her
774
00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:34.269
in any way at all but I just don't think
775
00:43:34.329 --> 00:43:36.889
that it hit the point that they were trying to
776
00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:41.139
hit as hard yeah Because of that. I don't think.
777
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.079
To me, as a... You know, like, I don't think...
778
00:43:43.539 --> 00:43:46.969
It was bad, but it wasn't as bad as what
779
00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:49.989
Josh allegedly said. It wasn't bad at all. Stuff like that.
780
00:43:50.530 --> 00:43:50.789
Yeah.
781
00:43:50.869 --> 00:43:57.369
Because you're on national television. And you're... I feel like sometimes... Like,
782
00:43:57.429 --> 00:43:59.050
even if you say that on a regular basis or
783
00:43:59.070 --> 00:44:01.900
whatever you do, you should just be mindful of.
784
00:44:01.900 --> 00:44:04.599
You should not be saying that on a regular basis. Period.
785
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.159
I had this conversation about... With somebody on Twitter. And
786
00:44:07.179 --> 00:44:09.820
I was like, I think... I said, I'm not... taking
787
00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:14.159
no blame off of Josh, but maybe his friends, POC
788
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.389
friends may like, let him say that, you know, some
789
00:44:17.409 --> 00:44:21.809
people in African-American community don't mind a friend saying certain
790
00:44:21.849 --> 00:44:24.070
words because they'd be like, it's just a word. Me,
791
00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:26.110
I don't play that at all, at all. I don't
792
00:44:26.130 --> 00:44:29.130
play that because I don't even say it around people.
793
00:44:29.170 --> 00:44:30.329
I try not to say it because I don't want
794
00:44:30.349 --> 00:44:31.929
nobody using it and stuff like that. But, you know,
795
00:44:31.969 --> 00:44:34.050
maybe his friends, you know, it's not okay, but maybe
796
00:44:34.070 --> 00:44:35.739
his friends, you know, let him use it and stuff
797
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.940
like that. I was having that conversation with on Twitter.
798
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.210
And they was like, are you? I'm not taking that
799
00:44:41.230 --> 00:44:41.550
from him.
800
00:44:41.570 --> 00:44:43.369
Well, can't be like stupid enough to say that on
801
00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:48.449
national TV. Like, I don't know.
802
00:44:49.309 --> 00:44:51.130
No, maybe. I don't know.
803
00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:51.969
I can't wait to.
804
00:44:52.010 --> 00:44:52.329
Yeah.
805
00:44:52.349 --> 00:44:53.739
This week, right? Yeah, I think so.
806
00:44:54.360 --> 00:45:10.340
Um, Okay, so we're like way, way, way off topic. Yes. But... Okay,
807
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:12.300
so we kind of talked about this elimination. I think
808
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:13.820
this is really the last thing we need to talk
809
00:45:13.860 --> 00:45:17.880
about for this episode is elimination. It's called Airtime. And
810
00:45:17.900 --> 00:45:21.300
Tori picks Deb to go into elimination. Josh picks Cara Maria.
811
00:45:21.539 --> 00:45:25.130
No surprise there, really, for either of them. But basically,
812
00:45:25.150 --> 00:45:30.750
they have rowing machines. And the rowing machines, the more
813
00:45:30.769 --> 00:45:33.969
that you row, they blow up this huge balloon thing.
814
00:45:34.449 --> 00:45:39.889
that has these symbols on it the symbols are unusual
815
00:45:40.170 --> 00:45:44.969
symbols they are i was confused and they have to
816
00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:47.159
remember these things and then put them on the board
817
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.059
and we've seen you know not in this way but
818
00:45:50.139 --> 00:45:56.940
similar things all the time and um deb i think
819
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.099
actually did a lot better than i thought she was going.
820
00:45:58.960 --> 00:45:59.340
To do um.
821
00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:06.940
And Deb also said she only knew that she was
822
00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:10.599
going on the show two weeks before. So she was
823
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.679
in the casting process, was told she was not going
824
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.929
to be on, and then two weeks before they were like, oh, wait, actually,
825
00:46:18.949 --> 00:46:21.630
do you want to be on it? So she didn't
826
00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:24.449
really have time to prepare or train or whatever. I
827
00:46:24.510 --> 00:46:28.929
think that if she would have had more notice, then
828
00:46:29.849 --> 00:46:31.780
she would have been even better than she is now.
829
00:46:32.630 --> 00:46:34.690
now and I don't think that this is a terrible
830
00:46:34.769 --> 00:46:37.429
performance from her I mean look like she won an
831
00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:41.159
elimination she lost in an elimination but did well against
832
00:46:41.219 --> 00:46:44.840
Cara Maria who has won 17 maybe now 18 eliminations
833
00:46:44.900 --> 00:46:47.260
not sure if that stat included this episode or not
834
00:46:47.300 --> 00:46:54.840
probably not um yeah I mean she she did She
835
00:46:54.880 --> 00:47:00.360
made it to the first lollipop over the water challenge.
836
00:47:00.380 --> 00:47:04.250
She can swim. I feel like Deb is, like, she's
837
00:47:04.289 --> 00:47:07.690
not the best at anything, but she can do all
838
00:47:07.710 --> 00:47:07.989
of it.
839
00:47:08.010 --> 00:47:11.909
She's good. I like Deb. She's good. Yeah.
840
00:47:11.989 --> 00:47:15.780
And so Cara Maria, she does win this elimination. Elimination queen.
841
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.840
Deb is eliminated. But also there's, you know, like, She
842
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.440
did confront Sydney when Sydney was talking shit. She went
843
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.369
right up to her and was like, why are you
844
00:47:24.409 --> 00:47:28.889
talking about my hair and my boobs and my strangely
845
00:47:28.929 --> 00:47:32.909
defined abs? She confronted her. She was not afraid of
846
00:47:32.929 --> 00:47:35.800
that confrontation at all. She had a show, man.
847
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.980
Were you surprised when she confronted Sydney? Because I'm not
848
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:40.199
going to lie, I was surprised. Because she seemed like
849
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.500
a quiet, nice girl. When she confronted her, I was like, yes, Deb.
850
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:44.360
Yes.
851
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.690
Stand up for yourself. I loved it.
852
00:47:48.230 --> 00:47:52.980
I agree. I was surprised. But yeah, I totally agree.
853
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.300
I loved it. Keep coming, girl. Keep coming.
854
00:47:58.420 --> 00:48:01.039
Feed it to that girl. I was like, yes, I
855
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:01.429
love it.
856
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:02.679
I loved it.
857
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.460
It was sad to see her go and get eliminated.
858
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.619
Like you said, she went up against Kara, Elimination Queen,
859
00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:13.170
a challenged champ and everything. But I hope that she
860
00:48:13.190 --> 00:48:15.889
definitely comes back because I like that. I like her.
861
00:48:15.909 --> 00:48:20.110
If I'm thinking about all of the rookies, I almost
862
00:48:20.150 --> 00:48:22.849
think Deb, rookie of the year.
863
00:48:22.869 --> 00:48:25.639
I can see that. Yeah.
864
00:48:26.900 --> 00:48:28.500
I mean, the only one I think that even holds
865
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.619
like a candle to her is Anna Lee. And... Yeah.
866
00:48:33.260 --> 00:48:36.820
I think that Deb is just.
867
00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:39.570
Her drama messes it up, Anna Lee.
868
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:43.050
Well, I don't think her drama messes it up because
869
00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:51.309
I like drama. But I... Well, it's true. I don't
870
00:48:51.329 --> 00:48:53.630
think that it messes it up, but I think that
871
00:48:53.929 --> 00:48:57.989
Deb is just more likable. She's funny. She, you know,
872
00:48:58.050 --> 00:49:00.760
like she even had like the, the pasties moment where
873
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:06.360
she lists her shirt after, you know, the, the first elimination. Like,
874
00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:09.860
I don't know. I mean, I think she's just, let
875
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:11.840
me look at the guys here, like rookie of the year.
876
00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:13.219
So rookies, we.
877
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.360
Need Deb on the podcast. I had some questions I
878
00:49:16.380 --> 00:49:19.170
need to know. Like, what was you thinking? I mean,
879
00:49:19.210 --> 00:49:20.650
what was going through your mind? mind when you was
880
00:49:20.809 --> 00:49:24.150
talking to fine as well okay i mean it's fine
881
00:49:24.849 --> 00:49:26.090
is he from the country you know i don't know
882
00:49:26.130 --> 00:49:28.469
from the country it's crazy because before the season i
883
00:49:28.489 --> 00:49:30.340
would say rookie of the year was josh but oof
884
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.769
after this episode.
885
00:49:31.429 --> 00:49:35.420
I don't i can't yeah no we cannot josh not
886
00:49:35.619 --> 00:49:39.489
it rookie of the year But there's only two male rookies,
887
00:49:39.550 --> 00:49:44.090
and that's Josh and Keanu, because the other rookie would
888
00:49:44.110 --> 00:49:47.269
be Chris Underwood, but he won Challenge USA, so I'm
889
00:49:47.309 --> 00:49:49.239
not saying he's a rookie. I'm sorry, but I'm not.
890
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.480
And then for the women, we have Letty.
891
00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:56.460
I like Letty.
892
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:57.820
Riley.
893
00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.909
Oh, my gosh.
894
00:50:02.230 --> 00:50:02.869
Annalie.
895
00:50:04.150 --> 00:50:09.599
And Deb. Riley, absolutely not. Letty is funny, fine, but
896
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.860
she doesn't... I can see how she's some people's cup
897
00:50:12.900 --> 00:50:14.059
of tea, but she's not mine.
898
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:15.480
Yeah.
899
00:50:16.909 --> 00:50:24.989
So really, it's Annalie, Deb, or Josh. Yeah. And Josh,
900
00:50:25.309 --> 00:50:29.050
I'm saying no. And yeah, I mean, I think Deb
901
00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:30.639
is Rookie of the Year. Bring her back.
902
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.719
Yes, bring Deb back. We want to see Deb more
903
00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:36.909
because I'm pretty sure, like you said, she will prepare more. Like,
904
00:50:37.610 --> 00:50:41.329
you know, you said two weeks before, she will be amazing.
905
00:50:41.349 --> 00:50:43.889
I mean, they thought she was, like, actually just in shape.
906
00:50:44.530 --> 00:50:47.139
Yeah, she already won one elimination. She just lost. She
907
00:50:47.179 --> 00:50:50.940
won in one, but we know she's good. Mm-hmm. So
908
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:51.820
bring my sis back.
909
00:50:52.099 --> 00:50:52.539
Bring her back.
910
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.969
Yeah, totally agree. Okay, is there anything else you want
911
00:50:57.989 --> 00:50:59.769
to talk about? I think we've kind of gone through
912
00:50:59.789 --> 00:51:02.710
the episode. We got real off topic. We've talked a
913
00:51:02.750 --> 00:51:06.590
lot about teasing next week, a lot, but hard not to,
914
00:51:06.670 --> 00:51:09.320
hard not to. I feel like.
915
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.000
It was something, probably something that wasn't shown, but I
916
00:51:13.019 --> 00:51:16.300
did see that thing you sent me with Josh talking
917
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.250
about the clip that you sent and everything. I did
918
00:51:20.269 --> 00:51:20.610
see that.
919
00:51:21.329 --> 00:51:21.929
Oh, yeah.
920
00:51:21.989 --> 00:51:25.739
Yeah, that was interesting. Yeah. Because I'm the type of person,
921
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:27.460
I'm nosy. I look online because I'm like, this stuff
922
00:51:27.500 --> 00:51:29.500
is about to come out. If it do come out,
923
00:51:29.539 --> 00:51:31.760
what is he talking about? I'm like, he barely talks
924
00:51:31.820 --> 00:51:32.659
about the show.
925
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:40.389
Yeah, so he said that in six, he did a podcast.
926
00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:43.030
I don't know what podcast, but he did a podcast.
927
00:51:43.969 --> 00:51:47.789
And he said that in 16 months, he almost lost
928
00:51:47.829 --> 00:51:51.889
his dad and he lost his sister while filming. And
929
00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:56.730
then Seven months later, he was cheated on, which is
930
00:51:56.769 --> 00:52:00.659
really interesting to me as a Love Island fan because
931
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.739
I was a fan of Josh and Shannon when their
932
00:52:03.460 --> 00:52:06.380
season aired. I really liked them. I think that they
933
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.340
would have won the season. I would have voted for
934
00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:09.800
them if they were in the finale 100%. But filming for...
935
00:52:21.019 --> 00:52:24.639
Was it USA1 or USA2? I can't remember. That Shannon
936
00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:28.739
was on. Yeah. They were both alternates for that season. Yeah.
937
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:32.510
And she went... She said on some podcast. I mean,
938
00:52:32.530 --> 00:52:34.409
this was years ago. So this is just my memory
939
00:52:34.449 --> 00:52:39.070
remembering this. But she said that she went for the
940
00:52:39.110 --> 00:52:41.369
vacation with Josh. They were alternates. She was not supposed
941
00:52:41.389 --> 00:52:42.710
to be on the show. And then they got there
942
00:52:42.750 --> 00:52:44.309
and they put her on cast. And she thinks that
943
00:52:44.329 --> 00:52:46.389
that was always their plan. That she was never really
944
00:52:46.429 --> 00:52:48.690
an alternate. They just needed to get her there. So....
945
00:52:54.340 --> 00:52:54.860
Oh, wow.
946
00:52:55.219 --> 00:52:57.340
And then they didn't catch Josh until now.
947
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:01.300
I do remember he was supposed to be casted.
948
00:53:01.820 --> 00:53:04.980
Yeah, I do remember. Yeah, so he was an alternate
949
00:53:05.019 --> 00:53:09.570
that season. But that was over a year after Love
950
00:53:09.630 --> 00:53:18.869
Island filmed. So... And supposedly they dated for like two years.
951
00:53:19.449 --> 00:53:23.170
So basically he's saying that shannon cheated on him he
952
00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:25.269
took her back and then they went to film the
953
00:53:25.289 --> 00:53:27.960
show or they went on this vacation to make it
954
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.780
better i mean i don't know but i'm trying to
955
00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:36.420
do the timeline and the math is not mathing.
956
00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:38.699
You're gonna have me tomorrow when i'm at work driving
957
00:53:38.739 --> 00:53:40.320
i'm gonna listen to the episode i did with him
958
00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:42.130
because i'm gonna i don't remember him talking about if
959
00:53:42.150 --> 00:53:43.929
she cheated and i know he talked we just talked
960
00:53:44.469 --> 00:53:45.909
i'm talking about the shot just talk about mental health
961
00:53:45.949 --> 00:53:47.949
and stuff like that but i gotta listen to the
962
00:53:47.989 --> 00:53:51.070
episode again Yeah, because I know he talked about that relationship,
963
00:53:51.210 --> 00:53:53.210
but I just don't remember what he talked about. I
964
00:53:53.210 --> 00:53:55.750
gotta listen to it. Hmm.
965
00:53:56.889 --> 00:53:59.710
I don't know. I don't know. I feel like this
966
00:53:59.750 --> 00:54:01.730
is one of the first times I've heard about this
967
00:54:01.849 --> 00:54:04.070
cheating thing, but maybe... Me too.
968
00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:06.809
You said it. You sent me the clip. I was like,
969
00:54:06.909 --> 00:54:09.179
I've never heard about this. I was like, oh, wow.
970
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:19.699
It's okay. The more you know, I guess. Yes. But, oh, man. Josh,
971
00:54:19.780 --> 00:54:21.780
you're such a good TV personality. Why do you have
972
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:22.360
to suck?
973
00:54:22.900 --> 00:54:27.960
Do you think... They're probably going to bring him back.
974
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.139
Yeah, I think so.
975
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.940
The girls get it bad, but for the guys... Because
976
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.489
I think Jordan was in a type of situation like
977
00:54:36.510 --> 00:54:37.739
that and he got clean back.
978
00:54:38.429 --> 00:54:42.050
The only reason why they were even able to bring
979
00:54:42.309 --> 00:54:44.929
Jordan back is because he got Nia to agree to
980
00:54:44.969 --> 00:54:46.150
go with him and talk about it.
981
00:54:49.010 --> 00:54:51.210
I love her. She changed so much.
982
00:54:52.710 --> 00:54:55.250
Well, and he obviously thinks Jordan did too, or she
983
00:54:55.269 --> 00:54:56.010
wouldn't have done that.
984
00:54:56.389 --> 00:54:56.670
Yeah.
985
00:54:58.050 --> 00:55:00.210
Which, and I feel like that's fair. And that's like
986
00:55:00.369 --> 00:55:03.179
the part of reality TV. That's like kind of cool
987
00:55:03.219 --> 00:55:07.440
about these like real world challenge paths that we, you know,
988
00:55:07.539 --> 00:55:09.679
see for years and years is we can see them
989
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.780
like grow and change and have new perspectives. And I
990
00:55:12.820 --> 00:55:16.050
think that's really cool because that is part of life too.
991
00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:17.769
You know, I'm not the same person I was when,
992
00:55:17.769 --> 00:55:21.230
10 years ago, 20 years ago, whatever, you know? Not
993
00:55:21.269 --> 00:55:26.829
even close. So I do think that that's really cool. But...
994
00:55:27.610 --> 00:55:30.550
When you're in your 30s, like Josh is, I think
995
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:33.269
he's in his 30s anyway. And.
996
00:55:34.610 --> 00:55:40.639
You're saying shit like this on national TV... On your
997
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:43.360
third show on national TV.
998
00:55:43.380 --> 00:55:45.500
And this is a show that you always... You went
999
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.119
to going so badly in.
1000
00:55:48.570 --> 00:55:49.949
Like, what are you doing?
1001
00:55:52.050 --> 00:55:54.110
He wanted to go on the show so badly. And
1002
00:55:54.170 --> 00:55:55.769
I'm just like....
1003
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.500
I just hope. I just hope.
1004
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:04.079
Ladies and gentlemen.
1005
00:56:04.099 --> 00:56:08.940
That there's a rival season. That they don't use this
1006
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:11.159
fight as his rivalry.
1007
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:13.840
You think so? Oh, my God.
1008
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.059
I would rather see him with somebody like Cara Maria...
1009
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:23.869
And have the game-related rivalry than the trying to bring
1010
00:56:23.989 --> 00:56:29.610
his reputation back rivalry. Yeah. Because that's what it would
1011
00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:35.239
be doing. They would have him have the exact conversation
1012
00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:40.059
in a confessional with Nelson that they had Jordan do
1013
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.090
with Naya. It would be the same.
1014
00:56:43.829 --> 00:56:45.469
And since they're on Paramount, are they going to have
1015
00:56:45.489 --> 00:56:46.750
a reunion? Are they going to talk about it at
1016
00:56:46.769 --> 00:56:47.030
the reunion?
1017
00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:48.190
They're probably, I don't know, listen.
1018
00:56:49.590 --> 00:56:52.789
This is like, it should be so weird though, Christina,
1019
00:56:52.809 --> 00:56:54.949
because like, you know, remember the Camilla stuff when I
1020
00:56:54.969 --> 00:56:58.349
had Brandon on my podcast, mental podcast, and I didn't
1021
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:01.219
really know when Camilla got kicked off and everything. It
1022
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.739
wasn't even four when she said to Leroy. It was
1023
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:05.340
just because she had a producer or something like that.
1024
00:57:05.380 --> 00:57:06.760
I was like, that's crazy. But when I was talking
1025
00:57:06.780 --> 00:57:09.000
to Brandon, you know how you watch, whenever we're on
1026
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.539
Cutthroat this season, but watching Cutthroat back when she's like,
1027
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.619
let's add some color to the, team and she said, Brandon...
1028
00:57:14.260 --> 00:57:16.119
I didn't even think about that as a child until
1029
00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:16.860
Brandon brought it up.
1030
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.590
What did she say?
1031
00:57:20.349 --> 00:57:23.530
When the original season of Cutthroat that Brandon also was on,
1032
00:57:23.969 --> 00:57:26.789
she was like, let's add some color to the team
1033
00:57:27.250 --> 00:57:29.250
and she said, Brandon, come down or something like that.
1034
00:57:30.010 --> 00:57:31.829
But when Brandon brought that up, I had to watch
1035
00:57:31.889 --> 00:57:32.369
it over again.
1036
00:57:32.389 --> 00:57:33.050
I was like, oh.
1037
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:38.420
She's been with saying stuff like... I was like, oh. But...
1038
00:57:39.820 --> 00:57:40.920
Next week, guys.
1039
00:57:41.829 --> 00:57:44.389
It's really interesting to see if you were like, just like,
1040
00:57:46.150 --> 00:57:48.829
not just reality TV, but even like movies and stuff,
1041
00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:55.309
like the progression of society. It's crazy when you think
1042
00:57:55.349 --> 00:57:57.989
about like, that was only five years ago. That was
1043
00:57:58.030 --> 00:58:00.280
only 10 years ago. That's not that long ago. Yes.
1044
00:58:04.780 --> 00:58:07.320
It may seem long, but it was not that long ago.
1045
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.869
No. And to, like, even, like, the D thing when
1046
00:58:10.909 --> 00:58:14.250
we're talking about, you know, like, that was kind of
1047
00:58:14.289 --> 00:58:16.409
a different time. It was kind of a different time
1048
00:58:16.670 --> 00:58:17.670
six years ago.
1049
00:58:17.690 --> 00:58:19.070
That's crazy.
1050
00:58:19.090 --> 00:58:26.530
That is not that long ago. I don't know.
1051
00:58:27.150 --> 00:58:28.630
If he comes back, I'm going to be D. I'm
1052
00:58:28.650 --> 00:58:31.690
going to be suing him. But, you know, that's just
1053
00:58:31.730 --> 00:58:32.070
my thing.
1054
00:58:33.590 --> 00:58:36.809
Yeah, I feel really bad for how....
1055
00:58:37.590 --> 00:58:39.690
She got to edit. Didn't they edit her out that season?
1056
00:58:39.730 --> 00:58:41.849
They edited the shit out of her at that season.
1057
00:58:41.929 --> 00:58:44.610
I'm just like, what?
1058
00:58:44.630 --> 00:58:51.099
As somebody who plays in challenge fantasy leagues, it was
1059
00:58:51.260 --> 00:58:58.679
really interesting because Dee was a top scorer. Top scorer.
1060
00:58:59.380 --> 00:59:03.079
When they edited her out, it was really interesting to
1061
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:06.599
see some of the people who weren't getting screen time
1062
00:59:07.219 --> 00:59:13.440
then getting screen time and how I mean the points
1063
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:20.619
completely changed with that edit completely because even like Rogan
1064
00:59:20.860 --> 00:59:23.219
who was up there too wasn't getting as many points
1065
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:27.269
because he was also he wasn't cut out but his
1066
00:59:27.309 --> 00:59:30.300
scenes were way less because he was always with Dee Indeed, yeah.
1067
00:59:31.219 --> 00:59:35.449
And so then Melissa, who was not getting much screen
1068
00:59:35.489 --> 00:59:39.510
time that season because she was pregnant and they were
1069
00:59:39.530 --> 00:59:46.610
protecting her and Kyle, who were hooking up, and whatever,
1070
00:59:46.630 --> 00:59:50.670
she then started being one of the top people with
1071
00:59:50.690 --> 00:59:53.889
screen time. Yeah. I mean, it was crazy. It was.
1072
00:59:55.090 --> 00:59:56.510
Crazy how they did it. Yeah.
1073
00:59:57.329 --> 01:00:01.119
Yeah, which makes me, like, this Josh thing, they knew
1074
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.039
the whole season. Why the fuck is the edit so Josh-heavy?
1075
01:00:05.059 --> 01:00:06.420
It is.
1076
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.469
I mean, he's, like, one of the main characters this season.
1077
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.849
That do make sense. They knew the whole season, but
1078
01:00:13.909 --> 01:00:17.829
when they went into that editing room, it was while
1079
01:00:18.289 --> 01:00:20.869
it was filming, and then did the edit, that does
1080
01:00:20.949 --> 01:00:21.250
make sense.
1081
01:00:21.309 --> 01:00:24.139
And they can make anybody, every single person, and Johnny
1082
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.940
Banana said this on, I think, Deb's podcast. every person
1083
01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:32.719
has the same amount of confessional time while they're in
1084
01:00:32.739 --> 01:00:38.989
the house. Everybody has the opportunity to be on the show.
1085
01:00:40.550 --> 01:00:44.250
They all are doing confessionals. They all are, you know,
1086
01:00:44.369 --> 01:00:48.769
everybody while they're filming has the same opportunities. It's what
1087
01:00:48.789 --> 01:00:54.989
you do with those opportunities. Yeah. And some people are
1088
01:00:55.010 --> 01:01:02.030
doing it, like Deb. And some people like Justin are not.
1089
01:01:08.250 --> 01:01:10.409
But they have all that material and they don't have
1090
01:01:10.449 --> 01:01:12.389
to be giving Josh all of this. And they are.
1091
01:01:12.409 --> 01:01:15.190
I mean, maybe that would just be because there would
1092
01:01:15.210 --> 01:01:17.570
be no blue team at all shown. And it would just,
1093
01:01:18.389 --> 01:01:26.300
I don't know, but I don't know. There's gotta be
1094
01:01:26.340 --> 01:01:30.269
a way. I mean, they don't always... Like I was
1095
01:01:30.289 --> 01:01:32.389
just saying, they hit the Melissa and Kyle hookup. Why
1096
01:01:32.409 --> 01:01:34.369
do we even know that Josh and Adrienne are a thing?
1097
01:01:35.070 --> 01:01:37.510
Don't show me that. Cut that out. Give me that
1098
01:01:37.550 --> 01:01:46.519
less Josh time. I don't know.
1099
01:01:46.900 --> 01:01:49.460
He just said I'm fine. I don't know.
1100
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.980
Well, yeah. I mean, I want to look at him,
1101
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.989
I guess, but I.
1102
01:01:58.949 --> 01:02:01.010
Love looking at him and Will. He's just amazing.
1103
01:02:03.929 --> 01:02:06.869
Will is one of the best. Will is the future
1104
01:02:06.889 --> 01:02:09.449
of the challenge. He can do it all. He can
1105
01:02:09.469 --> 01:02:11.820
punch a hole in the wall. He can win a challenge.
1106
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.119
He can hook up. I expect him to hook up.
1107
01:02:15.139 --> 01:02:16.800
I want him to hook up. If he becomes a
1108
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:20.000
fessy who becomes in a relationship and boring, I will
1109
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.869
be so disappointed. Will, stay single, please.
1110
01:02:24.909 --> 01:02:27.050
Stay single, Will, for Christina's sake. Yeah.
1111
01:02:27.090 --> 01:02:30.460
Yeah. Well, not for me, for my entertainment.
1112
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:39.239
But I guess is that all? Yeah.
1113
01:02:40.539 --> 01:02:43.360
Yeah. I think, I mean, I don't really have much
1114
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:43.969
else to say.
1115
01:02:43.989 --> 01:02:45.510
Me either.
1116
01:02:45.570 --> 01:02:47.250
I mean, next week we're going to be going off.
1117
01:02:47.289 --> 01:02:48.809
So just be ready for that.
1118
01:02:48.829 --> 01:02:52.050
This is going to be probably a long episode because
1119
01:02:52.070 --> 01:02:56.849
we are, we, Christina, have been a very opinionated We're
1120
01:02:56.869 --> 01:02:59.570
going to have some stuff to say. Don't show, we're
1121
01:02:59.590 --> 01:03:02.090
still going to have something to say. I think I'm.
1122
01:03:02.110 --> 01:03:08.079
Going to come ready with a receipt and I'll pull it.
1123
01:03:08.099 --> 01:03:09.380
That'll be my contribution.
1124
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.679
Sit in a group message so we can all like
1125
01:03:12.739 --> 01:03:14.179
receipt after receipt after receipt.
1126
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:14.920
Yeah, okay.
1127
01:03:14.940 --> 01:03:16.280
From Salt Lake City. Receipts.
1128
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.699
Proof. Yes.
1129
01:03:18.900 --> 01:03:26.190
It's going to be good. But you guys, Thank you
1130
01:03:26.210 --> 01:03:31.780
for listening to Off The Hook Podcast with Leek and Christina.
1131
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.639
This was a good episode. Ben, we miss you.
1132
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:35.960
Yes, we miss you.
1133
01:03:36.539 --> 01:03:39.829
Miss you, Ben, but Ben will be back the next episode.
1134
01:03:40.070 --> 01:03:40.510
Yes.