Hour Two | A Gruesome Visit with Doc, Jimbo Fisher & LSU vs. Kentucky

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Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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Okay, here we go.
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Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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Hour two of Off the Bench, live from the Raising
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Cane Studio. Oh, no.
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Oh, no. Alright, welcome back in.
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OTB here live from the Raising Cane Studio. Wednesday shows
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brought to you by our friends over at Poncho. PonchoOutdoors.com Backslash.
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Backslash. Off the bench. Check it out.
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Got some of those LSU shirts in stock. Just checked
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it out to make sure. Didn't want to lie to you.
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We got some.
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Now the light purple, you'd have to have Nicolas Cage
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and National Treasure to find that one. But, dark purple
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the white those are.
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Available oh yeah model click hover over that whoa why
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do you think they're sold out buddy my god doc
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why doc you look pretty good on tv when you
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run out on the field but you've seen impressive you
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ever seen that poncho male model pretty impressive.
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I like the purple model that one yeah toting the
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rock not that one yeah those hands.
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What do you think sold the shirt seriously anyways uh
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doc what's going on how we doing We're doing good.
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We're doing good. How about y'all? Living the dream. Don't
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wake me up. Don't wake up. Nightmares are dreams too, Jake.
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All right.
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So one of the things we wanted to talk to
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you about, Taequann Thornton, Kansas City Chiefs receiver.
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And Matt said it perfectly the other day. Adrenaline is
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a hell of a thing. Hell of a thing. Can
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we bottle that up? My gosh.
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I mean, his ankle is facing the complete opposite way,
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and he's trying to get up to celebrate.
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And I'm like, oh, my God. He just, ah. Everything
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just is mush. But, like I said, adrenaline. You just
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made a big play. Yeah. And a big game. It's
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probably a weird feeling, like, when you go to put
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your foot down. Ah. Stop on your foot. It's facing
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the wrong direction, yeah. And you're not good. Not good.
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I remember when Dak Prescott did it, and he was
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trying to, like, bang it back into place.
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Yeah. On the ground. It's like, no, buddy. Don't do that.
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That does not help. Your ankle is facing down. south
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when it's supposed to be north medical advice don't do
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that but i was i was shocked to hear 12
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weeks for taekwon thornton really yeah 12 weeks just turn
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that thing right back like when they said yeah three
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months now they said like that's being aggressive that's everything
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going right.
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Yeah it's all about how many other injuries there are
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you know obviously you had a dislocation most of the
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times you have a dislocation of the ankle you're going
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to break a bone as well The ankle doesn't dislocate
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that easily, so usually it means you broke at least
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one of the two lower leg bones, the fibula or
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the tibia.
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It depends on what other injuries there are.
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Do you have some cartilage damage? Did you tear some ligaments?
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If so, which ones and how bad? How big are
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these defects? If everything goes well, they do heal. It's
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funny how that looks worse than a lot of these
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other injuries that we see that are seven, eight, nine months.
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The optics of it are bad, but it is one
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that people will get back from you know, in that
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three-month mark.
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Again, like you said, if everything was perfect. Is it
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even possible for a foot to be facing the complete
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opposite direction and not to have torn ligaments or cartilage?
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Not really, no. No, yeah. These are ligament injuries. Usually
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if you dislocate any joint, you're going to have ligament damage. Right.
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Again, like with so many things we talk about, the
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question is which ones and how severe, you know, and
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how big was the injury. Is it something where they're
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going to have to go in and reconstruct a lot
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of that?
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Is it something where it's going to be more minimal?
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Sometimes if you just kind of reset the ankle and
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if there's a fracture, you know, you kind of take
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care of the fracture. Sometimes a lot of the other
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parts of the ankle will kind of heal up in
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that setting. So it's a lot of kind of variability
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in just how much we have to do.
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Okay, this is good.
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Sorry to cut you off, but do those heal faster,
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the ligaments in that area, compared to the knee?
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Sometimes, yes. Yeah, typically they will. It's all about which ligament.
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For example, an MCL injury, you know, we've talked, unfortunately,
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a lot about those lately. heal pretty quickly, you know,
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by comparison to an ACL at least. So some of
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it is where is the ligament? What is the ligament?
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You know, a lot of it comes down to circulation
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and blood flow and all these other variables that affect it.
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And a lot of the ankle ligaments are probably more
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akin to, say, an MCL. They're going to heal a
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little bit more rapidly. And then sometimes you have to
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do some reconstructions and things like that as well, though,
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so that can all lay variables there.
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And I'm saying this fully aware of what time of
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the day it is. It's early. It's more early. Some
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people are eating some breakfast, having some coffee. Uh, but
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I'm going to ask kind of a gruesome question.
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Cool.
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Um, when it happens like that. Okay. So your toes
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usually point forward. They're pointed backwards. Correct. Um, okay. So
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you're going to have ligament, potentially bones caught like, but
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what about like the skin?
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Right.
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Does the skin rip? It does. Can it rip like that? Yeah,
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for sure. For sure.
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So, so, so when you have a, any kind of
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a fracture dislocation, you know, one term you'll hear thrown
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out there, was it open or closed? Open meaning that something,
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punch through to the, to the environment. So an open
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fracture or an open dislocation is usually when a bone
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punches through the skin. Um, that's these kind of sometimes
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called a compound compound is, is, is another term. So, um,
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whereas closed is, you know, you can have a pretty
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bad fracture, but everything's still intact. Now that's also part
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of the reasons that you want to try and get
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these things pop back in pretty quickly, especially ankles because
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of what can sometimes happen too, is if that bone
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is pushing up against your skin, we call that tinting
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the skin. And if it's pushing up long enough, it
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can actually start to compress circulation, blood flow, and what
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maybe didn't start off open, if you don't treat them rapidly,
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can become open.
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So you just pop them back in? Just pop them
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back in.
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That's why usually on the field, if something's dislocated and
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if we can get it to reduce pretty quickly, we're
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going to try and do so.
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If it's something where... we realize it's going to be
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a little more complex.
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We're still going to try and get it done as
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quickly as possible while you're on the sideline.
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Before you pop something like that, you don't get confirmation
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that there's not a bone that's broken or anything? Most times, no.
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different times. If you have a big piece of bone
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sticking out, sometimes that's going to affect what we have
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to do or not do. In that scenario, you might
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just try and staunch the blood bleeding and then try
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and reduce it once you get to a more sterile environment.
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All right, this is probably going to be a little
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bit of an odd question, but I'm sitting here and I'm, like,
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thinking about things like, okay, well, can you be tough?
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Can you tough it out through this injury? What's, like,
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the worst injury that you somehow, someway can tough it out, like,
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in a week or two, but it's going to be painful,
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it's going to be a pain in the butt, but technically, like,
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you can't do, you know, more damage.
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Right.
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Because, like, you know what I hear about injuries, it's like, yeah,
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it's bad, but I think maybe he can push it
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and play.
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And I guess there are some, and again, can there
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be an injury? Of course, there's always that. But, for example,
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you know, look, we've had a lot of guys that
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have played with fractured ribs. You know, I remember with
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the Drew Brees injury several years ago when he had
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multiple fractured ribs. I think he had something like eight
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fractured ribs. And he came back and played, you know,
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well before those fractures were healed.
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So you can see that.
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Jameis Winston had a– when he had his back injury,
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he had some spinous process fractures in the spine. Literally
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broke his back. And those you can play, depending on where,
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of course, what type of an injury you're talking about.
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But it's more the projections off the side of the spine.
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So those you can sometimes do. So a lot of
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it is, you know, some of these fractures that maybe
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the complication risk is small.
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So there are broken bones you can play with. It
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does happen. So those are the first ones that pop
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to mind. But there's probably a long list of them
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as well. I know for me, plantar fasciitis. That's a
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real painful one, yeah. It sounds cute. We had a guy, yeah.
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He was like a Pro Bowl player, and he had it,
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and he missed like four weeks. I had it, and
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they were like, how long are you going to be out?
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I was like, I'm a fullback. I've got to practice.
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I can't miss.
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And on one foot, it popped. On the other foot,
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at the same time, it didn't. And the one that
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did not pop was more painful than the one that popped.
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Sometimes there are those injuries where, you know, and it's
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funny too, like not even necessarily talking about with just athletes,
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but you know, I'll get somebody that comes in with
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like a rotator cuff tendinitis. That's just, they're dying. They're
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in agony and they're not being soft or weak or whatever.
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I mean, they're sweating. And cause that is really painful.
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A lot of times you get the guy that comes
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in the tourist cuff and then you can't raise his arm,
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but he's like, Oh, it doesn't really hurt that bad.
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So it's kind of the same principle. Sometimes this, I
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tell patients all the time, pain does not.
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Always dictate severity.
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You would think certain injuries, the more severe, the more
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painful it's sometimes true, but not always. So something like
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a plantar fasciitis is really painful and, But we don't
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think of it as nearly as serious as, say, a
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broken bone or a torn ligament or something like that.
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When I took my cleat off, it looked like I
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had frostbite. You know when Mr. D's, when he takes
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his shoe off and he's got black foot? Black foot.
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That's what mine looked like. Yeah, you got that bleeding
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and that plantar fascia. Why would you do that? You're sick. Yeah.
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And we were about to have kickoff, and I was
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supposed to be out there for the coin toss.
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And it was like.
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Doc was trying to like tape it a special way
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and then like they were like we.
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Need a metal plate for his cleat oh it was
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not fun yeah that was not a fun thing i
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felt like i was running down on kickoff with like
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a wooden.
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Boot on i just kick the kick do the kickoff
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with that thing yeah might as well what about sprained
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ac joint.
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So sprained ac joint that's the the chromium covicular joints
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the joint on top of the shoulder collarbone meets the
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shoulder That's one that we see a lot, and that
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is one that at times can be quite painful. And
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typically guys can play through that one.
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It's not going to, like, increase, like, severity. Not really, no,
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not really.
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You know, you might have some– you may prolong the injury,
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you know. So if you have an AC sprain and
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you keep playing on it, it's not going to heal
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as quickly.
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So you're definitely going to potentially prolong it.
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But even when people have pretty big injuries there where
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they– you can even see, like, sometimes a separation where
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that collarbone kind of sits up. You know, we call
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it grade two or grade three. Most of the times,
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those are injuries we don't fix, and really in anybody.
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Still got a nice little bump. Got a little bump. Yeah,
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a little bump right there.
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And you have to wear the pad, like the extra
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pad that's like this big. I did.
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That's why I missed the SEC championship.
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Like a little raised piece that you're supposed to put
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like right over the AC joint.
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I think they put that over there. I don't know
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what it did. I just ended up, Doc, I just
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ended up wearing that like no matter what. Yeah.
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There comes a point. I had like a left shoulder.
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I guess I was left shoulder tendency to block. I
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just ended up wearing it.
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It worked. This bump right here. That got us two
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points versus Arkansas. Not a big deal. Did we win
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the game? That's a two-point bump right there. Did we
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win the game? That's a two-point bump there. Did we win,
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at least? In our hearts. You really were made of
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glass there at the end, huh? Shut up. I gave
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my body up. No SEC championship game. I wanted to, too.
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Very badly. Couldn't lift more on the dot. It's hard
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to play ball when you can't lift an arm. They
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gave me three lidocaine shots during the game in the shoulder. Three? Three.
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It's a solid day. The first one wore off before
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the Hail Mary. I think I've told that story before.
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The shortest Hail Mary of all time.
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36 yards.
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36 yards. It wore off right before I went out there.
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I was like, hey, I don't know. This might be
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parallel time for this Hail Mary. But now I can
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do this. Adrenaline will get me. I think we need
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to pull that tape up again. Adrenaline is serious. We
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discussed it. It is. It is serious. I don't know
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why this just stuck to me about like weird injuries
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that seem to that don't sound like they sound kind
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of harmless, but they make a huge deal for even
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the biggest, baddest, strongest big toes. Yeah. You hear a
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lot about, like, was it Terrell Owens that had, like,
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a toe one time? Turf toe is the one that
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you hear about so much.
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Turf toe and the one– I think I've told this
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story before, but I always remember Deion Sanders when he
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was playing, had a turf toe injury.
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That's right. And, again, this was way back. You know,
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I'm young.
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I don't know what the difference between– and I'm like,
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how is this guy not playing with a toe injury?
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He may be the softest guy ever. Toes are tiny.
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I remember my dad being like, oh, Deion Sanders, what
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the hell? Oh, it was– Turf toe? Are you kidding me?
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And I remember it vividly because I was so, like,
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you know, just– It moved me so much thinking about it.
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I'm like, how's this guy not playing with a hurt toe?
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He's like the best cornerback in the league, and you
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can't play because your toe hurts. And now understanding these injuries,
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your big toe injuries are borderline debilitating, and if they're
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bad enough, can even be like season, career-ending injuries.
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Big toe, so much of your force goes through that
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side of the foot.
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As you move further and further to the outside, it's
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not as crucial, but that big toe is so important
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to everything you do, push, plant, land, jump.
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Explain what a turf toe is again. I know we
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talked about it, but it's probably been like a year,
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and I definitely forgot.
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So the turf toe is when you basically, it's basically
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an injury to the joint, the joint that's at the
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base of the toe.
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So where the toe attaches the foot.
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And depending on severity, you can basically tear off that
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plate that's underneath there, kind of where that ligament attachment is.
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And look, if you tear it off completely, I mean,
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your toe just won't work. Every time you try to
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plant on it, I mean, it just doesn't have the
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support it needs. It hurts like snot every time you
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do that. There's things we can do for the milder
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versions where it's more of a sprain of that joint.
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and you can put in, like, the metal plate in
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the shoe. Sometimes we'll do that for the turf toe injuries.
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You can do tape jobs and things like that. Sometimes
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even medications to sort of make it feel better. But
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once that thing blows, once it pulls off completely, if
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it's a severe injury, it's just not going to work.
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Isn't it kind of one of those deals, too, where, like,
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if you get it in game three, you can play,
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but you're going to feel it in game 12 probably?
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Yeah. Should we just– Let's rename it. Can we call
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it Death Toe? I think a tougher name would help.
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I think Death Toe is good. Death Toe. Death Toe injury. Tornado.
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That sounds like something you get on the Oregon Trail.
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Oh, it does. You got death toe. You die because
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of your death toe. She was great, but she got
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the death toe up there. She got the death toe.
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In Salem, Oregon, on the trail. Bandits, snake bites, dysentery,
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and death toe. That's what gets you in Oregon Trail.
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All right, Doc, we appreciate you. Thank you, sir. Always
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a pleasure. Thank you. I hope we don't see you
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again this week. Yeah. Don't want to see your face.
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Had a boring Saturday this past Saturday. I'm good with
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that again. There you go. Perfect. Love it. That is true.
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I was very glad not to see it. You're handsome.
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I appreciate that. But we don't want to see it.
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Don't want to see that.
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Not in action.
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100% agree. No thanks. All right. We'll take a break.
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Off the bed. Let me right those wrongs, baby. I'm sorry, baby.
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Your finger paintings don't suck. What's up? How we doing?
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Doing great. That was a gruesome segment. Yeah. I didn't
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love the skin talk. It was just a random thought,
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and I think... Real question? No, it is. We get that. Like,
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here at OTB, we ask the tough questions.
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When someone's foot is facing the wrong way, I just
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assume that everything in there is shredded.
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Just melted.
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Everything.
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Just absolutely melted. Just shredded.
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And so, like, when I heard Tyquan Thornton for the
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Chiefs could come back in 12 weeks, I'm like, the
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hell he can.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's a 12-month injury to me. He's got mush in
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his ankle right now. When I see that, I'm like,
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that's a 12-month injury. Me too. 12 years. Yeah. 12 weeks.
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So our old team doctor for the Chargers, Dr.
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Chow, is kind of like basically Twitter doctor. Like any
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injury in the NFL, he's the go-to.
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He has a whole business based off of it, like
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fantasy football and betting and He immediately reacts to any injury.
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And we had him on our shows on Mondays. And again,
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he was our team doctor in San Diego. But when
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he told me 12 weeks, I was like, shut up.
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No way. Get out. Can't be.
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He's like, now that's with a lot of aggressive treatment
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and everything going right. I'm like, I don't care if
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everything goes right. There's no way that that man can
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be back on a football field in three months.
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It's wild.
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His foot was turned the other way.
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Yeah.
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You tell me he's going to be back in three months?
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Yeah.
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I just don't get how everything's not, again, shredded in
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there where there's nothing.
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There's just a pocket of blood in a foot. Yeah.
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It's just dangling. It just melts inside.
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There's nothing left. Like, the bones are gone.
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Just ankle soup. Ankle soup.
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Ugh.
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Ankle soup and death to.
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I hate that. Hate, hate, hate. Hate ankle soup. Sorry.
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We're just, we're laughing because it's uncomfortable. Just laughing through
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the pain.
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I mean, that's, Kind of what he did on the field.
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He's like, hey, come here, help me up. Yeah, he did, man.
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He's like, can you believe this?
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I need to stop thinking about this.
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Hey, it was really great to see, and I meant
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it with all my heart, that I don't want to
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see Doc on TV anymore. But it was really great
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to see this past weekend. That's the fear in those games, right?
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Because injuries have been so prevalent all season long. We've
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got a lot of misfortune, LSU, with injuries. So it was...
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You know, having a seemingly pretty decent game in that aspect,
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which was needed.
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No?
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From that standpoint, yes. Yeah. For sure. A lot of
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players got a lot of playing time. I was looking
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at you when I was saying that, and I was
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looking at your face. I was like, did I miss one?
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Yeah.
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Did I miss one? No, I don't remember anything. Yeah.
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No more injuries all year. And that's with running 101
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plays on offense, too. So you're out there for a while.
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Sure.
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That's a lot of plays. School record. That's a long
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film breakdown for those kids.
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So that's a six-hour, Matt.
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That's a six-hour sit-down. That's a six-hour sit-down.
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I don't want to go through 101 plays.
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Can you imagine Jimbo going through 101 plays? Yeah, I can.
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It took him forever to go through 47. I can
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definitely imagine it. Now, Matt.
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Come here.
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Now, why would you do this? Let me just ask
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you something. Why would you do that? Why? I mean,
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you saw the safety dam right here. Nickel backed up.
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Then you decided to do this?
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That's not what we went through. Wow, what would he
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say when you... Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
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What would he say when you'd kind of do something
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on your own? He had a way of saying it.
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Like when you kind of would.
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Go rogue and do your own thing. God, he used
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to have a way of saying it. I'll have to
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think about it. I just remember him just getting all
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worked up. It's all about you. It's all about you. Hey,
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just forget coaching. Forget coaching. It's all about you. Hey,
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you know best. Do your own thing out there, bud.
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You know, I'm not even going to ask. You know,
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I'm just happy. I'm just happy because you're consistent. At
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least you're consistent. You consistently mess up.
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Hmm.
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Who got it the worst from him?
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Man.
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Marcus Randall. Oh, that's true. Allie Broussard got it pretty bad.
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I love Marcus. Maybe I thought it was worse because
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I was new at LSU, too. I was like, what's
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happening right now? From a receiver standpoint, well, tight end
485
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Donnie Jones. Oh, that's the answer. You're right. face jones
486
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skyler would get it pretty good too good skyler had
487
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a nickname out there that was what was it matt
488
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we're gonna keep that one in the lock all right
489
00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:21.809
fair oh imagine if they were everybody got it buster
490
00:23:21.829 --> 00:23:24.410
would get it pretty good from him too yeah um.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I mean, all the corner, like me and
493
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Marcus got it pretty, pretty bad too. But, uh, Marcus was, yeah,
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I think that's the answer for me at least right now.
495
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Yeah.
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I mean, if it's not me, it's him. I'm going
497
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to face Jones. Face was, I mean, faith, one liners
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face would have his moments where he got the, I
499
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.599
wish your parents never met. Yeah. And different versions of that. Yeah.
500
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There was also a DC situation where he was from.
501
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:59.150
Mm hmm. Can't talk about that one. We should probably
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00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:02.000
move on before we incriminate Jimbo. Yeah. Because we love him.
503
00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:05.500
We do. We love the guy. Could be coaching Florida
504
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:10.309
State again, according to rumors. Well, their current coach doesn't
505
00:24:10.329 --> 00:24:10.869
need a coach there.
506
00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:12.190
True.
507
00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:15.069
I'm pretty sure Jimbo would do it for free. For sure.
508
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Swear to God. He might.
509
00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:17.490
I mean, he's still getting paid out by them.
510
00:24:17.509 --> 00:24:18.569
That's what I'm saying. I think he would do it
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for nothing. Or by A & M, right?
512
00:24:19.910 --> 00:24:20.410
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
513
00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:21.210
He's got enough money.
514
00:24:21.289 --> 00:24:23.819
He could just pay Norvell's buyout with that A &
515
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M money.
516
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Right.
517
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I think he would literally take the bare minimum. They
518
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had to pay him to be a state employee. I
519
00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:33.549
will say, I would assume that he stays pretty in
520
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tune with the ebbs and flows, the updated types of offense,
521
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different things that they're doing, because everything improves over time.
522
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I think that was one thing at A & M
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that I saw that I noticed from their offense, and
524
00:24:47.460 --> 00:24:49.779
this is before I did radio or anything, so I
525
00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:52.920
wasn't breaking down film. I was just watching. I recognized
526
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.960
most of the plays that they were running at Texas
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A & M, Yeah. Which is good, because there's only
528
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.319
so many ways that you can do it, but it
529
00:25:00.380 --> 00:25:04.400
looked very familiar, right? Like, it didn't update. Paint and
530
00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:07.150
win and all, you know. Yeah, like, and volunteer and
531
00:25:07.190 --> 00:25:09.109
all that stuff, which is all great plays, like, and
532
00:25:09.130 --> 00:25:12.069
they all have their purpose and their time, but it
533
00:25:12.089 --> 00:25:15.460
wasn't a whole lot of new stuff in Indy. Yeah, 35.
534
00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:15.630
35, yeah.
535
00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:22.119
Right, you're... Building on top of those things. Yeah, you
536
00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:24.160
build on top of those things. That's like the foundation.
537
00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:29.220
It's not everything. So if he does, which I hope
538
00:25:29.259 --> 00:25:32.779
he does because I love Jim, but I think he's
539
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.200
a very, very good coach. And I know that there's
540
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.470
a lot that goes with that from a Texas A
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00:25:37.470 --> 00:25:40.569
& M standpoint, their fandom and all that, blah, blah, blah.
542
00:25:40.589 --> 00:25:42.069
I don't really care. I just know he's a very
543
00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:46.029
good football coach. Loves it. Loves the people he coaches
544
00:25:46.089 --> 00:25:49.509
and is very intense, obviously, but can recruit his team.
545
00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:53.769
tail off. All those players that we used to get
546
00:25:53.890 --> 00:25:58.210
from Miami, that was Jimbo. That was all Jimbo. 100%
547
00:25:58.210 --> 00:26:02.950
Jimbo got all those players out of Miami. I came
548
00:26:02.970 --> 00:26:09.009
to LSU because of him, not because of Saban. Saban
549
00:26:09.029 --> 00:26:12.950
at that point wasn't the GOAT. I loved Jimbo.
550
00:26:13.190 --> 00:26:15.480
He hadn't even won one at that point for you.
551
00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:19.259
He had won one right before for me. Right, yeah,
552
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.809
at that point. Who was your area recruiter? Kirk Dahl.
553
00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:25.970
Dahl was mine, too. But then Jimbo took over once
554
00:26:26.009 --> 00:26:28.569
the scholarship stuff started happening, the offers.
555
00:26:28.769 --> 00:26:34.839
After Dooley screwed it up with your fat ankles. Hey, Nick,
556
00:26:35.259 --> 00:26:37.660
Derek's over here telling us this guy's got fat ankles
557
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:38.420
and can't play.
558
00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:43.019
Tell Dooley don't worry about these quarterbacks. I'll handle the quarterbacks.
559
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.240
Derek Dooley don't know a quarterback if you hit him
560
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.589
right in the ass, all right? Fat ankles.
561
00:26:49.529 --> 00:26:50.509
We got to get him back on.
562
00:26:50.710 --> 00:26:51.069
We did.
563
00:26:51.089 --> 00:26:52.390
He was good when he came on.
564
00:26:53.829 --> 00:26:56.009
That's how we got the Kinkle. I know.
565
00:26:56.049 --> 00:26:56.930
He gave us that ammo.
566
00:26:56.970 --> 00:26:58.990
He gave us that. Oh, so good. He's got to
567
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.799
be like a top of the hour, 30 minutes.
568
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:01.200
Yeah.
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00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:04.160
We'll catch up on some breaks sometime down the road.
570
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:05.740
We should get him on Eye in the Sky.
571
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.559
Oh, that would be fun. You know how long you'd
572
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.900
be in that seat over there? Bro, you get me
573
00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:13.019
and Jimbo talking about film.
574
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:13.180
Yeah.
575
00:27:14.230 --> 00:27:16.089
I'll have to give you, like, a 15 play limit.
576
00:27:16.150 --> 00:27:18.849
Because Jimbo would then, hey, Flynn, hey, you know what
577
00:27:18.869 --> 00:27:20.680
that play's like? You remember that time back in 2004?
578
00:27:20.670 --> 00:27:23.569
But the people would love it. We were playing against Troy,
579
00:27:24.250 --> 00:27:26.529
and they were playing quarter-to-quarter halfs over there, and.
580
00:27:28.250 --> 00:27:30.890
It was third and seven. Like, no, Jimbo, I don't.
581
00:27:30.930 --> 00:27:31.700
I don't remember.
582
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:36.099
And he does. He absolutely does. He called quarters in
583
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.099
the red zone red seven. Yeah. Which I don't understand.
584
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.640
I don't understand it either. But he did it. That's
585
00:27:41.660 --> 00:27:43.359
what I called it when I was, like, in green.
586
00:27:43.380 --> 00:27:46.569
I was like, yeah, it's red seven. Like what? No,
587
00:27:46.589 --> 00:27:51.890
just tight quarters. I've heard tight quarters. Tight quarters, yeah.
588
00:27:51.930 --> 00:27:56.740
But I've never heard Red 7. Red 7! Anyway, good stuff.
589
00:27:56.779 --> 00:28:01.759
Way to reminisce. Memory lane. God, we're going to crush Kentucky.
590
00:28:02.660 --> 00:28:03.119
So much.
591
00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:04.799
The O-line's bad?
592
00:28:04.819 --> 00:28:05.599
Huh?
593
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:06.589
The O-line's bad?
594
00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:09.589
Theirs? Theirs is good. Their D-line doesn't get off blocks.
595
00:28:09.609 --> 00:28:12.950
Their D-line's bad. Yeah, their D-line can't get off blocks.
596
00:28:12.990 --> 00:28:13.269
Okay.
597
00:28:13.650 --> 00:28:14.490
They struggle.
598
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.349
Well, Kenny Menchie said that LSU's defense has never seen
599
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.569
an offense like Kentucky's.
600
00:28:19.670 --> 00:28:23.289
They haven't because. This is a really good one. Because
601
00:28:23.309 --> 00:28:25.809
they'll just line up with, like, a billion tight ends, like,
602
00:28:25.910 --> 00:28:31.470
in the I formation and then shift out into. Into doubles? Into, like, doubles.
603
00:28:31.490 --> 00:28:33.690
Two by two? Watch this shift.
604
00:28:33.910 --> 00:28:35.789
It's to confuse you, Matt, obviously.
605
00:28:35.809 --> 00:28:37.849
Yeah.
606
00:28:38.049 --> 00:28:40.170
Watch this shift. And then they'll shift. And, like, the
607
00:28:40.210 --> 00:28:42.509
defense is just looking at each other like, what?
608
00:28:42.529 --> 00:28:43.390
We didn't even have to move.
609
00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:46.210
We didn't have to move. What are they doing? That
610
00:28:46.230 --> 00:28:49.130
was dumb. But you're right, Kenny Menchie. You are playing well.
611
00:28:49.130 --> 00:28:52.289
11 touchdowns, one interception. So kudos to you. Playing well.
612
00:28:52.309 --> 00:28:56.089
Almost 70% completion. Almost. I would argue that LSU's, you know,
613
00:28:56.730 --> 00:28:59.309
Ole Miss is a pretty good offense. Yeah.
614
00:28:59.609 --> 00:29:01.549
I think the Ole Miss's issue is on the defense.
615
00:29:01.769 --> 00:29:01.930
Yeah.
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00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:03.650
More than the offense.
617
00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:07.329
I'd rather play Kenny Menchie than Trinidad Chambliss.
618
00:29:07.349 --> 00:29:07.769
For sure.
619
00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:11.250
No disrespect to Kenny Menchie, but, I mean, I'd rather
620
00:29:11.309 --> 00:29:12.380
play him than Trinidad.
621
00:29:12.390 --> 00:29:13.339
Oh, yeah. Don't get it twisted.
622
00:29:13.390 --> 00:29:13.539
Right.
623
00:29:14.470 --> 00:29:17.289
Don't get it twisted. Kenny Minchie has been playing well.
624
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:23.920
He is a good quarterback. Yeah. Period. They're a good team.
625
00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:26.700
There's no more exaggeration. He's a good quarterback. Yeah, they're
626
00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:30.599
a solid team. He's a solid. He's going to not
627
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:33.950
do anything stupid. He's going to run their offense. He's
628
00:29:33.970 --> 00:29:36.750
going to take that check down or that under route
629
00:29:36.789 --> 00:29:39.470
or that on a naked bootleg. He's going to hit
630
00:29:39.490 --> 00:29:40.819
the guy on the fly. and he's going to pick
631
00:29:40.859 --> 00:29:43.339
up six yards and then they're going to run it
632
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.519
and then he's going to motion a bunch of people
633
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.200
and he's going to throw it deep into a safe
634
00:29:48.259 --> 00:29:50.539
place where his guy catches it or nobody catches it
635
00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:53.559
and if it's not there he's going to scramble around
636
00:29:53.579 --> 00:29:55.319
and instead of running it he's going to throw it
637
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.940
away yeah unless he has to run it because he
638
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.779
stepped up in the A or B gap, and he
639
00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:03.119
can't run out of bounds. And he's going to do it,
640
00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:04.779
and he's not going to throw it into harm's way.
641
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.400
If he's not sure about it, he'll take a sack.
642
00:30:10.259 --> 00:30:14.299
And that's about it. And then you're going to turn
643
00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:16.759
on ESPN SportsCenter's top ten, and he's not going to
644
00:30:16.779 --> 00:30:17.039
be on it.
645
00:30:17.980 --> 00:30:18.420
Poor guy.
646
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.829
No, not poor guy. He's playing great.
647
00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:21.750
He ain't going to lose you a game.
648
00:30:22.109 --> 00:30:27.450
He's playing great. All right, on that note. We'll take
649
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a break.
650
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We'll take a look at the SEC schedule. We've still
651
00:30:31.029 --> 00:30:32.990
got to take a look at what's next for the
652
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New Orleans Saints. I know we talked about it yesterday
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in a recap from what was a very poor performance
654
00:30:38.859 --> 00:30:40.420
on Monday night, so we'll get to.
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All of that when we come back here on OTB.
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All right, as we continue talking LSU and Kentucky, again,
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LSU has not had a lot of success in Lexington.
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It has certainly been a bugaboo for them to go
702
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up and play in Lexington. You had to have a
703
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miracle play in, was it 2002, 2007? We lose in
704
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triple overtime.
705
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.140
2021, they beat you up. So you have not had
706
00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:52.960
great fortune there. Hasn't been easy in Lexington.
707
00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:56.819
So knowing that, knowing it's a sold out Kroger field
708
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as well, it is going to be Whatever their environment
709
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.460
turned up to an 11 is, that's what it's going
710
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to be. And I got to say, in 2021, I
711
00:34:06.869 --> 00:34:09.429
was warning people, hey, this place can get kind of crazy.
712
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It doesn't have a ton of people, but when they're good,
713
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they're here.
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And it was. So it's going to be a good environment.
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They're all jacked on bourbon. Yes.
716
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They just went to the races earlier in the day.
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It's going to be a good environment. It's going to
718
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be a good football team. It's going to be some
719
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.500
long travel, more than you're used to. There's things that
720
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you have to handle. Are you the better team?
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I think so. Are you the more talented team?
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Yes.
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Are you, you know, from top to bottom roster-wise going
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to have more Jimmies and Joes?
725
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Yes. And you have some advantages too.
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But the one thing this coaching staff, and I've been
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around them a couple times now traveling with the team,
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00:34:47.889 --> 00:34:49.570
they do a really nice job of trying to treat
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00:34:49.690 --> 00:34:52.460
every opponent the same, trying to highlight. And we haven't
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seen this team really come out and just lay an egg.
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Even against Louisiana Tech, it was close, and then you
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pull away. Remember last year, a lot of times you
733
00:35:02.929 --> 00:35:06.610
never pulled away. Western Kentucky was like 13-10. In this
734
00:35:06.630 --> 00:35:08.179
game against McNeese, what do you do?
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You handle business.
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In the third quarter, you started to go the other way,
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and you flipped it back again. So I think mentally
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they understand what this is. It's a top 25 SEC
739
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:21.619
team on the road, a place that's going to be
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00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.139
tough to play, a place you haven't played well.
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00:35:23.550 --> 00:35:25.150
The last couple times that you've been there.
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00:35:26.409 --> 00:35:29.789
And then also, there's some familiar faces over there, too,
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with Joe Sloan and Nick Anderson, Lance Hurd. So, I mean,
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00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:36.369
I think there's a lot in front of you if
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you're an LSU player to make sure that you respect
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your opponent, which, again, they've done every single time so
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00:35:40.670 --> 00:35:41.199
far this year.
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00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:49.860
Yeah, and I think that Kentucky winning at Texas A
749
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& M at South Carolina, I think that is... a
750
00:35:53.980 --> 00:35:57.179
blessing for this LSU team because it makes you, it
751
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.659
forces you to put some respect on that name because
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00:36:00.739 --> 00:36:03.440
they've earned it. They've gone out there and it doesn't matter.
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00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.000
We showed you the stats earlier where they rank nationally
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and all the different categories on offense and defense. It's
755
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not anywhere close to the production LSU's had, but they
756
00:36:14.420 --> 00:36:17.780
went on the scoreboard and they can continue to fight,
757
00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:22.940
but they are, there is flaws on their team. That
758
00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:25.380
can be exploited. Now, you have to be disciplined. Blake
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00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:30.679
Baker and his staff, they have to make sure their
760
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.130
safeties that are coming down and their linebackers play extremely disciplined.
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They have to play. They cannot take the cheese, if
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you will. They cannot take the eye candy. They got
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to know that people are going to be going left
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and right. And if everybody goes left, that means something's
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00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:53.710
coming right. If everything goes right, that means something's going left.
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00:36:53.789 --> 00:36:56.179
So you have to, they're going to show you something.
767
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.199
Look right here, look at my hand, look at my
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00:36:58.219 --> 00:36:59.920
hand while I try to do something else. And that's
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00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:03.360
how they are trying to overcome, you know, a little
770
00:37:03.380 --> 00:37:07.559
bit more deficiency and talent from top to bottom. They're
771
00:37:07.579 --> 00:37:10.500
playing a lot of tight ends. On the offensive side
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00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.420
of the ball for LSU, Sam, this is one thing
773
00:37:13.460 --> 00:37:16.880
that you've struggled with consistently all season long. A little
774
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.719
bit better the last week or two. Run the ball,
775
00:37:22.780 --> 00:37:28.059
not yourself. RPOs, hand the ball off. And sometimes I
776
00:37:28.099 --> 00:37:30.500
don't even care if it's a dirty look. I don't
777
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.639
even care if there's a safety that comes down late
778
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.260
and makes the count wrong. Run the ball, their defensive line. Now,
779
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.889
of course, they're in the SEC. They can make plays,
780
00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:44.590
but more often than not, they cannot get off blocks.
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Run the ball. A four-yard run on first down is
782
00:37:49.570 --> 00:37:52.369
a good play. but I think more often than not
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00:37:52.389 --> 00:37:56.190
this weekend, unless they're just given extremely dirty looks in
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00:37:56.230 --> 00:37:58.590
the box, you're going to see more six yards run
785
00:37:58.610 --> 00:38:02.010
than four yard runs. Um, they cannot stop the run
786
00:38:02.829 --> 00:38:05.739
if you do it on normal down and distance runs. Um,
787
00:38:06.059 --> 00:38:11.559
so don't throw the RPOs. Don't throw it unless it's
788
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like a gift and they'll give you some gifts. They'll,
789
00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:16.539
they'll line up and they'll, On RPO looks or regular
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00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.099
normal down and distance, which is like a first and
791
00:38:19.099 --> 00:38:21.539
10 or a second and five to like six to eight,
792
00:38:21.579 --> 00:38:24.329
something like that. Those are normal down and distance plays.
793
00:38:24.690 --> 00:38:26.590
You line up in a normal formation. They'll give you
794
00:38:26.630 --> 00:38:29.590
a hitch route to the field, but they'll also know
795
00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:31.489
they're giving it to you and they'll be ready to
796
00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:35.329
collapse down on it. Run the ball. Cause you're, it's
797
00:38:35.369 --> 00:38:37.050
going to be, you're going to want to throw it
798
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sometimes on an RPO, but I'm telling you, if you
799
00:38:40.969 --> 00:38:44.230
consistently can run the ball on first down, You're going
800
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to run them out of the stadium by the second half.
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And that's what– and I say that. I don't say
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that because, like, I just think we're so much better. Yeah.
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Texas A & M and South Carolina. South Carolina was
804
00:38:55.789 --> 00:38:58.610
up 17-0 at the end of the first quarter. And
805
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they stopped. They just, like– their coaches pooed down their leg. Yeah. Sorry.
806
00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:13.300
It happened. It's true. Marcel played like trash against them
807
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.250
at times. Fourth and one, rolling out, throws it in
808
00:39:17.269 --> 00:39:21.900
the dirt. Yeah. That was a pick. I think they
809
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.239
were up 7-0. And he throws a pick right to it.
810
00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:28.570
It's just they, they, the coaches blew it over thinking themselves.
811
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They could have run them out of the stadium. All right.
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We will step away. Going to wrap up our number two.
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When we come back here live from the raising cane
814
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studio off the bench.
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Or go to FABT.com.
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That is the website for first American bank and trust.
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They've been in the game since 1910, well over a
818
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hundred years. They've been here in South Louisiana. And so that, well,
819
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your relationship, you're not just an account number, your face,
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your name, like, you know, they know you, right?
821
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It's not, Oh, just coming in, just doing some banking business.
822
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And I have no idea. Somebody knew every single time. No,
823
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it is a relationship.
824
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And so when decisions are made, like they're made with
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you in mind, they're made right here in South Louisiana
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as well. They don't call and they don't ask for
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permission to, to California, New York, or a bigger city.
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It's right here. It's FABT.com. Yeah, they treat you like
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a human over there, not like Jake said, not an accountant.
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So you're going to go and you're going to have
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a conversation. If you have a problem, if you have
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an issue, if there's something wrong, you go talk to them.
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They're going to walk you through. They're going to treat
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you like they would treat themselves in a banking situation.
835
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So they've been doing banking here in Louisiana a long time.
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First American Banking Trust, FABT.com.
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Welcome back to Off the Bench.
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Wednesday's show is brought to you by Poncho.
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What's happening? Welcome back to OTB.
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Real quick, let's go across the SEC, look at some
841
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of the games in conference this weekend. As we try to,
842
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at this point, figure out how it's going to shape up.
843
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.460
There's been a lot of upsets. There's been a lot
844
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.059
of teams that were like, yep, they're going to win
845
00:41:47.099 --> 00:41:50.119
that puppy running away, and they get housed. Looking at you,
846
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.070
Ole Miss, against Florida. Looking at you, Florida, against Missouri.
847
00:41:53.989 --> 00:41:57.449
So we don't really know. It's, as we said yesterday,
848
00:41:57.489 --> 00:42:00.380
kind of NFL-like from week to week. as we get
849
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:06.000
closer and closer to college football being professional football. In Como,
850
00:42:07.260 --> 00:42:11.099
Missouri and Texas A & M, Missouri a three-and-a-half point favorite.
851
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.409
In Gainesville, Florida and South Carolina, Florida a 12-and-a-half point favorite.
852
00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:22.530
In Dallas, Texas, in the Cotton Bowl, Red River, it
853
00:42:22.710 --> 00:42:26.869
is Texas and Oklahoma, Texas a seven-and-a-half point favorite.
854
00:42:27.710 --> 00:42:29.989
In Nashville, it is number nine, Ole Miss.
855
00:42:30.150 --> 00:42:35.219
In Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, a 10-point favorite. In Fayetteville, Arkansas,
856
00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:41.500
Arkansas hosting number 15, Tennessee. Tennessee, 13-and-a-half-point favorite. In Lexington, obviously,
857
00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:45.059
LSU and Kentucky. LSU, an eight-and-a-half-point favorite. And then the
858
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.559
game of the week in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, number two, Georgia,
859
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:49.900
number six, Alabama.
860
00:42:50.059 --> 00:42:56.079
Alabama, a one-and-a-half-point favorite. Silver under on that.
861
00:42:56.170 --> 00:42:56.969
I mean, that makes sense.
862
00:42:56.969 --> 00:42:57.809
52 and a half.
863
00:42:58.889 --> 00:43:00.150
Pay him at home, one and a half.
864
00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:02.949
Yeah. Good line. Good line.
865
00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:05.219
I mean, there's only three teams in the SEC where
866
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.800
I'm like, Texas has got the best resume, but they're
867
00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:11.519
not playing great. Like, it doesn't look pretty. Georgia's dominating.
868
00:43:11.539 --> 00:43:13.519
They haven't really played anybody. You can kind of say
869
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.400
the same for Alabama. Those are the three teams I
870
00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:18.920
look at right now. I'm like, okay, who's in the
871
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:20.599
head of the pack of those three? And, I mean,
872
00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:21.760
we might find out this weekend.
873
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.510
Georgia-Alabama is obviously the game of the week. Interesting ones.
874
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.690
You never quite know in Red River how that's going
875
00:43:32.710 --> 00:43:35.670
to play out. That one stuck out. Oklahoma's considered the
876
00:43:35.710 --> 00:43:37.869
home team. When you were reading the lines, that one
877
00:43:37.889 --> 00:43:40.510
stuck out to me. Just because Oklahoma's. You know the
878
00:43:40.530 --> 00:43:41.670
total on that game? 38.
879
00:43:41.670 --> 00:43:42.090
40.
880
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:42.510
39.
881
00:43:42.510 --> 00:43:48.420
Is it? Texas. 20-17 versus Tennessee. They beat.
882
00:43:49.539 --> 00:43:49.699
UTSA.
883
00:43:55.099 --> 00:43:55.150
30-6.
884
00:43:55.980 --> 00:44:01.869
They beat Ohio State by one. They're playing close games.
885
00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:04.030
That 7.5 stuck out to me when you first said it.
886
00:44:04.030 --> 00:44:06.809
I was like, well, yeah, Texas number one. Oklahoma's been poo.
887
00:44:07.829 --> 00:44:12.650
That's the one. Then I think about it. Rivalry. They're
888
00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:17.500
not blowing anybody out. Oklahoma's not great.
889
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.420
The game's always... Yeah, I know.
890
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.239
This is where this is his Heisman moment. This week.
891
00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:26.380
This is where he turns it around.
892
00:44:26.420 --> 00:44:29.619
This is where he turns it around. My preseason prediction
893
00:44:29.739 --> 00:44:33.849
is finally going to come true this weekend. He might
894
00:44:33.869 --> 00:44:40.050
throw for 800. It's a Red.
895
00:44:37.789 --> 00:44:38.869
River record, I believe.
896
00:44:40.409 --> 00:44:45.110
Ole Miss minus 10 at Vanderbilt. Ole Miss off a
897
00:44:45.179 --> 00:44:45.659
bye week.
898
00:44:46.539 --> 00:44:49.159
Getting blown out. They're trying to get the bad taste
899
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:50.059
out of their mouth.
900
00:44:50.739 --> 00:44:51.980
I don't know anything about Vanderbilt.
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00:44:53.909 --> 00:44:55.230
I mean, that win they had against NC State.
902
00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.409
That's all I know about it. That's all I know
903
00:44:57.429 --> 00:44:58.190
about Vanderbilt.
904
00:44:58.329 --> 00:45:00.630
They played someone tight. Was it Georgia they played? For
905
00:45:00.650 --> 00:45:04.380
a while. For a while. Yeah. They pulled away 38-14,
906
00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:05.699
but for a while.
907
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.079
I was like, let me check in on Athens.
908
00:45:08.460 --> 00:45:10.980
Yeah, it was an ugly game against Auburn.
909
00:45:11.019 --> 00:45:13.059
The Auburn game, they fell behind. I think it was
910
00:45:13.139 --> 00:45:15.920
double digits early. Roundup coming back, making that a game
911
00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:18.039
as well. So, like, they're hanging tough.
912
00:45:19.059 --> 00:45:19.900
Hanging tough.
913
00:45:21.710 --> 00:45:25.090
And wasn't their starting quarterback out versus Georgia?
914
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:26.820
He was, Jerry Curtis. Yep, he's going to be back
915
00:45:26.860 --> 00:45:31.880
for this one. Still, though, 10 points. Ole Miss, Tay-Tay's
916
00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:33.659
point is going to want something to prove. They're going
917
00:45:33.699 --> 00:45:35.920
to try to score a bunch of points. They're going
918
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.800
to try to get a get-back game. They win by
919
00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:40.199
more than that.
920
00:45:40.219 --> 00:45:42.099
Yeah, I like that. I like that. Of the ones
921
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:47.219
we've talked about, Ole Miss minus 10 is where my
922
00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:52.159
money would go as I stand here right now. Not
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00:45:52.219 --> 00:45:56.760
Notre Dame playing? See, I didn't even yell at y'all. See,
924
00:45:56.900 --> 00:45:59.880
y'all were hating on me all week last week. I
925
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:02.460
haven't hated on y'all one time this week. Because you
926
00:46:02.539 --> 00:46:03.179
also missed.
927
00:46:04.699 --> 00:46:05.619
Jake's the only one that didn't.
928
00:46:05.659 --> 00:46:08.010
How dumb it was that y'all wouldn't let me choose
929
00:46:08.309 --> 00:46:12.349
UNC this past weekend. Y'all said, no, you can't do it.
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00:46:12.670 --> 00:46:13.150
We did.
931
00:46:13.250 --> 00:46:13.690
I said, I want to.
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00:46:13.690 --> 00:46:14.929
But at the end of the day, you can do
933
00:46:14.949 --> 00:46:15.630
whatever you want.
934
00:46:15.989 --> 00:46:18.329
Okay, here we go. But that wouldn't be a Foxhole
935
00:46:18.349 --> 00:46:19.610
thing to do. If you would have picked them, though,
936
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they would have been.
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00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:20.570
Both.
938
00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:23.760
Real bad. You can't do it. I'm not letting you.
939
00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:28.090
It's not allowed. Well, it is. I want to say yes.
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00:46:28.469 --> 00:46:33.010
What'd you eat in Florida? Yeah. Vegas is around by
941
00:46:33.050 --> 00:46:36.199
like 50 on that one. Vegas is dumb. Hour three,
942
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coming your way.
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Off the bench.
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