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00:00:37.600Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Newska.
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00:00:42.640It is me, Evie, back with Connie this morning.
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00:00:45.119And we have a great episode for you today.
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00:00:54.560So, as you've noticed, the the episode title for you guys today is This Is Why I'm Brain Damaged.
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00:01:05.920And Connie and I, after having a long conversation, realized in terms of trauma and in terms of how our brains have been wired, it becomes pretty obvious in the childhood stories what happened.
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00:01:10.799So that's what we're going to be talking about today is our weird, wild, and crazy childhood stories.
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00:01:15.280As Connie pointed out, I do seem to have a plethora of them, maybe.
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00:01:17.280We have broken brains.
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00:01:21.519Some some Easter basket of extra trauma in there.
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00:01:27.760Some weird stories, some spooky stories, some trauma stories, some family stories.
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00:01:38.799Uh, and for some of you, this might not be new, but I think there will be a few stories in here today that are definitely going to enlighten you.
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00:01:43.439If anybody's ever watched any of my stuff on TikTok and has been like, what happened here?
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00:01:59.120This episode will be the enlightening one that will uh yeah, this episode because the amount of times I ask you about like just random things in her life, and then she comes out with these stories and my brain falls apart.
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00:02:04.799Yeah, there was a lot of colorful stuff going on.
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00:02:08.080My family, like I thought everyone's family was like this as well, right?
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00:02:12.800Because my everyone would tell me that there was lots of like, don't tell anybody that this is going on.
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00:02:20.000But there was also my mom, you know, when anytime I would question things and be like, This seems a bit odd, my mother would be like, No, this is what every family is like.
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00:02:24.159You're just a snob and you think you're too good for us, but this is what every single family is like.
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00:02:28.240And I would just look at my friends, you know, like sitting across the room and be like, Is this really?
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00:02:31.439Is your mother talking to aliens at night when you go home?
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00:02:38.080Is that just does she say that Jesus talks to her in her dreams and tells her about all the different breeds of aliens?
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00:02:39.680Because that's what my mom does.
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00:02:43.039And do they just know how to handle this better than we do?
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00:02:45.759Yeah, it's like because they all seem so much more well adjusted.
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00:02:48.240I I is is this everybody's doing this?
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00:02:48.960I wonder.
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00:02:52.080I think my mom was kind of at the helm of all of that.
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00:02:54.080All of well, not all of it, right?
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00:03:03.199She and another family member, another close immediate family member were kind of the the circus masters of crazy in our family.
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00:03:15.039But a lot of it happened, it was I think it was already happening before my dad left, but like after my dad left, because my mom and dad, they separated and they were separated for like, I don't know, a decade or something before they actually got divorced.
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00:03:20.960But like basically immediately after my dad left, my mom kind of just walked into the living room one day.
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00:03:32.719And I I remember this specifically because I was sitting in this horrific green 70s, like spinning office chair that had this horrific cloth on it that was like the roughest, most awful thing ever.
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00:03:40.159And it was all rippled, but I loved sitting on it because it was textured and I could just like rub my hands along it all day long and distract myself.
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00:03:43.759Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:03:55.039And she came in, and I think my sister-in-law was like playing with my dolls or something because my sister-in-law used to like to sew clothes and like do my dolls' hair and things, and she was my mom walks in and is like, right, you guys, I have to tell you something.
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00:04:06.159My father-in-law has been coming to me in my dreams, and I remember both my sister-in-law, who is, you know, 13 years older than me, both looking at each other and just not saying anything because she can't say anything to my mom.
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00:04:07.759Like, my mom is ballistic.
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00:04:22.639And then my mom just launches into this story about how her dead father-in-law, who's been dead for like 10 years or something at this point, came to her in her dreams and told her that she was a psychic and she was gonna save the world and deliver God's true message.
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00:04:25.199And she had to watch the grapes of wrath.
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00:04:31.680So we had to go and sit in the living room that morning and watch the grapes of wrath, like two or three times over and over.
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00:04:40.399And she would like walk around the house and go, Don't you smell that?
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00:04:41.120Do you smell that?
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00:04:43.120That's cigar smoke, that's cigar smoke.
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00:04:46.720That's your grandfather, that's your grandfather, like crazy shit like that.
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00:04:49.839I had a dream about my granddad the other week, and you know what he did?
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00:04:50.959He made me pancakes.
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00:04:52.240So I don't know, man.
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00:04:58.160I would have trusted it a lot more if she said, Hey, you made me pancakes, but no, no, of course not.
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00:04:59.360No, no, no, no, no.
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00:05:10.639She was gonna save the world as a psychic, and she was she was so special that God was going to give her, herself, his true message.
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00:05:16.959No one in the history, not in the billions of people that had ever lived or were alive, it had to be my mother.
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00:05:21.759She was so special and important, and that that from there on it was just ballistic.
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00:05:30.720Everything in my life, I feel like from that moment just turned into, you know, that there's like there's a ride I used to like to take at the carnival, and it we called it the Alpine Bob.
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00:05:33.680But it was like you just get in these little cars and they go around in a circle.
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00:05:47.839And I know you the listeners, you can't see my hands, but it's these little cars they go around in a circle and they go up and down at the same time, like you're going around hills, and then they'll stop and make it go backwards, and it'll go really, really fast, and you're just holding on to the bar for dear life, and everything just turns into a blur.
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00:06:03.439That's what my life is like a carousel, but like with the seats instead of kind of they're like roller coaster cars almost that you sit in and they're all attached to each other in a circle, and there's like literal hills in this circle that goes up and lifts you up and down, up and down over these hills.
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00:06:04.879That's why we call it Alpine Bob.
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00:06:08.160And I always had like a Yeti painted in the background and yada yada yada.
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00:06:09.360Anyways, loved it.
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00:06:17.839Always made anyone who was in there with me sit, but it was I loved when it got really, really blurry when you were going around backwards and the pictures all just turned into a blur.
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00:06:23.199That is what my life felt like from that time when my mom's like, I'm a psychic and I'm talking to God.
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00:06:28.879Like from there, it's like the Amityville horror for 10 more years.
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00:06:35.199It literally just turns it, like maybe that's why I like that movie so much.
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00:06:42.240Hey, hey, we don't use Malcolm in the Middle for comparisons, okay?
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00:06:44.639Malcolm in the middle, stay the fuck out of this.
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00:06:48.480They were fucked up, but they were not as fucked up as your mom.
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00:06:52.800Maybe the grandma, actually.
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00:06:56.959Yeah, she oh, she reminded me of my family because I was like, I bet that would have been my mom's mom.
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00:07:00.560The way my mom talked about her mother, it very much sounded like that.
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00:07:04.319Very much sounded like which I also found out kind of fucked up.
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00:07:14.160My mom left out the part where her her mom's dad died in the first world war or something like that, and she was out.
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00:07:25.120My grandmother, who would have been my mom's mom, just basically was like out of the house and already having kids at the age of 14, which is still not usual, even in the 20s and 30s.
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00:07:30.720No, no, that only happened when 16 and pregnant started coming out.
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00:07:34.399Yeah, that's like I I know people and like to use history all the time.
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00:07:36.720They're like, oh, well, you know, children were getting married.
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00:07:45.279That was like Henry the Seventh, his mom got pregnant with him at 13, and people were disgusted.
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00:07:56.000It was like a huge political scandal that this 13-year-old was going to give birth, and they they tried to keep it a secret because it was looked on as like the most offensive, disgusting thing you could do impregnating a child.
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00:08:01.759At the point of Romeo and Juliet, Shakespeare was trying to point out the fact that Juliet was a teenager.
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00:08:08.079Yes, and it was in Tudor England, they believed that the best time for a woman to have a child was actually in her 20s.
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00:08:17.439They thought that the 20s is when you should basically just be pumping them out because that's when you were strong enough and hardy enough and smart enough to not have a dumb baby.
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00:08:19.120That's what they thought.
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00:08:23.839Like even Henry, that's why Henry VIII, most of the women that he was with were older.
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00:08:28.560They were in their mid to late 20s when he got with them, or even in their 30s.
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00:08:29.120Yep.
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00:08:31.439Anyway, that was a side note.
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00:08:36.480But yeah, I think that's probably when there was there was lots of crazy.
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00:08:47.279There was a time in my family as well where supposedly there was no money, and all we had to eat for six months was just pancake mix, like flour, water, butter, I think is like all they could afford.
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00:08:52.480And that was like one of these big horror stories that was told as being the most horrific thing that ever happened to my family.
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00:08:57.840But my mom did that with pasta and and tomato soup packets.
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00:09:04.320This is and we she would pour tomato soup packets into pasta for like six months solid of my life.
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00:09:12.000And I remember like sneaking food to the toilet in my mouth to spit it out and flush it in the toilet so I didn't have to eat it.
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00:09:14.080I did that with ketchup sandwiches.
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00:09:20.399I would like to hide it in napkins because there was a ketchup sandwich period where that's like all there was to eat.
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00:09:21.600And yeah.
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00:09:31.360But I think when my mom started talking to I look at that now and I'm like, how did roomfuls of adults watch this woman cart me around?
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00:09:35.600Because my mother started going to psychic conventions and all this kind of stuff after that.
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00:09:50.480She started a business doing psychic readings for people and energy clearings, and she would talk to their pets and talk to their dead loved ones and their spirit guides, and she would talk to Jesus for them, and she would contact aliens like all this weird ass shit.
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00:09:53.600And there would be these, she would cart me with her everywhere to do it.
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00:10:01.440Cause as I've told the story before, she would also have me draw pictures of people's spirit guides for them, and I would charge 20 bucks, like that kind of a thing.
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00:10:02.480It was so gross.
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00:10:05.200It was so roomfuls of adults would watch this happen.
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00:10:05.840They were just like, yeah.
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00:10:12.000It was very gross.
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00:10:14.000She would take me to this very popular.
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00:10:18.480There is a very, I bet it's still there because it was a it's one of it's like a Mecca in America.
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00:10:24.559It was called Phoenix and Dragon, and it's a new age spiritual bookshop in Atlanta, Georgia.
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00:10:33.919And she took me down there several times and she would she had a little room and she would sit in this little room and do readings, and they would give me a little table, like sometimes in another room, sometimes just outside of her room.
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00:10:43.600And I would sit there and draw pictures of just random people that I would imagine in my head, and she we would say it was there's it was their spirit guides, and we would sell it, which has got to be like some kind of child law.
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00:10:55.360Very kind of I wish they could see your what's giving like the the program of like a major degree of freedoms, and you've just like started drawing like we have little creatures.
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00:11:00.720I would like I would draw like uh because I this is the time remember I I had mentioned this when we were doing the production call.
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00:11:13.840Like as a kid, I was obsessed, obsessed with Native American history and learning about the different tribes and what part of America they lived in and like their spiritual beliefs and all this kind of stuff and like the their wars and things that they had had.
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00:11:27.200And so I there was one day I just sat there and would just draw different different Native Americans that I had seen in the books that I had been reading from the library that had been in these like old West sketchbooks and all this kind of stuff, and people would be like, Oh, I knew it.
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00:11:28.080I knew it.
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00:11:29.759I'm like one tenth Cherokee.
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00:11:31.360I'm like, Yeah, 20 bucks.
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00:11:33.039Absolutely, Missy.
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00:11:54.799Yeah, there's probably some woman in Albuquerque, like draped in turquoise right now, who's got one of my pictures framed, and is like, this is Mahehe, my my my spirit, my great-great grandfather, or some shit.
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00:12:00.480You know the irony of this, the real irony is so my mother had a race problem, okay?
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00:12:06.399And she she would try to hide it, but she had a really, really, really big one against the gypsy people, right?
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00:12:08.080Romani gypsy people.
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00:12:10.399She, yep, yep, one of those, right?
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00:12:25.120And the irony of this is what we found out shortly before she passed away, and she was not happy about it, is that her biological mother, her maiden name was Hercules, and she was a Romani Gypsy immigrant.
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00:12:33.919And then my mom ended up being a fortune teller, the kind of stereotype that she liked to throw at those people.
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00:12:39.600She became the stereotype that she made up in her mind as the hateful bigot.
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00:12:40.799That is clear.
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00:12:48.879And I that a part of that really makes me happy that she be as a racist became the stereotype.
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00:12:51.440That was not at all what the reality is.
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00:12:52.240You know what I mean?
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00:12:56.559Like it just like it that this is why I taught narcissism.
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00:13:04.480This is this is why I'm like a narcissist will always fucking reveal themselves, and just you just have to stand back and watch them.
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00:13:12.639They will tell you everything about themselves, they will hang, they will climb up on the ladder and put their own neck in the noose.
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00:13:25.200Just by watching like angry come forward to of like my mom telling me that she was the reincarnation of Nancy Sid Vicious' girlfriend or something.
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00:13:28.879My mom used to do stuff like that all the time.
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00:13:36.879She nothing cool like that because she was like a like a 1950s prude, but see, this is why we're brain damaged and this is why we're friends.
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00:13:42.320My mom used to do past life stuff with me all the time.
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00:13:57.519And what was funny is when she would do hers or talk about hers, she was always in like some position of leadership, and she was always being called back to like help humans or people, and then she would do past life stuff with me, and she's like, Yeah, you were like a caveman.
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00:13:59.840Yeah, you just like lived on the plains in the deserts.
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00:14:01.759Oh, yeah, you were just in like ancient Egypt.
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00:14:04.480You worked on the temples, like I was always fucking nothing.
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00:14:14.480I remember even this was after I moved here, after I moved here, and Dan took me down to London because he had to go to London for work, and so it was my first time getting to go to London.
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00:14:18.320I went with him and I got to go see a bunch of places where Anne Boleyn had actually been.
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00:14:24.960I got to go to the Tower of London, I got to go to that childhood home she grew up in, and it was I was telling my mom about all this, and I was so excited.
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00:14:32.240Yeah, Anne Boleyn is my favorite, she's my patron saint.
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00:14:41.600But they I was telling her about all this, and like in the middle of it, she went, Yeah, I think you might have been like one of Anne Boleyn's servants or something in a past life.
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00:14:44.960And I just remember being like, God damn it!
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00:14:47.279Why?
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00:14:51.679Why are you doing this to me?
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00:14:54.799And then she tried to tell me I brought a ghost home with me.
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00:15:01.279She was like, You were one of Anne Boleyn's servants, and there's a ghost in your back seat that you brought home with you who hates her and hated you.
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00:15:07.519It's like what kind of what c like what kind of soap opera shit is this?
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00:15:08.960This doesn't make sense.
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00:15:15.759Yeah, and also you would not find a tutor following me up to Scotland.
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00:15:17.039It's not gonna happen, right?
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00:15:21.200They were not exactly friendly at that time, so not a chance.
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00:15:24.960But yeah, no, that she she did all kinds of crazy shit.
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00:15:34.240And what what was crazy is it it took her all the way to one step removed away from the fucking Dalai Lama, like that's how far she got with that crap.
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00:15:37.360Running that stupid, I'm a psychic, I talk to spirit guides.
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00:15:41.200She was one person removed from the fucking Dalai Lama.
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00:15:45.840She could have gotten a letter into that man's hands if she wanted, and that still makes me sick.
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00:15:49.919That makes me sick, makes me absolutely sick.
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00:15:51.519Don't know how anyway.
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00:15:54.080She used to have seances, she would drive me.
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00:15:57.919Failing upwards, she failed upwards so hard.
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00:16:01.120She was like a female JD Vance before it happened.
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00:16:03.039Before JD Vance.
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00:16:03.600Oh.
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00:16:06.879And she would like compliment for her.
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00:16:09.919I would always beg to go to the museums and stuff, right?
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00:16:11.120Which were in the city.
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00:16:16.320So, like a like a 30-minute drive down the highway to get to these museums that I would want to go to.
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00:16:40.000She would never, ever, ever take me to the museums, but she would drive 45 minutes to an hour, like into and past the city to go to these friends' houses where they would have these like open seance nights that she would drag me to again as a child, so that she could sit in the middle of the room and all these women would sit in a circle around her, and they would bring her possessed items and she would clear them and she would contact their dead lot.
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00:16:45.759Like it was a seance night, and they would just like send me upstairs with the other kids and be like, Okay, you guys go play.
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00:16:47.759It's like, what are we doing here?
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00:16:50.879Like, what the fuck are we doing here?
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00:16:59.440It's absolutely and now I'm basically I think schizophrenia, maybe because she also would imagine things that that never happened.
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00:17:02.720She would say they she would like 100% conviction they happened.
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00:17:10.559Actively having conversations with people in the sense of that it's like full reality.
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00:17:30.400It's kind of you know, like I and it's not like she can think of someone who's like outside of her immediate, and a lot of the time, like I like because my my was talking about how she was having full-on conversations with her dead brother every single morning for a couple hours.
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00:17:33.279That's how my mom talked about it with her father-in-law.
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00:17:38.880Yeah, and my mom is diagnosed schizophrenic, so like I it's gotta be it, right?
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00:17:49.759It has I I she she was convinced, she was convinced that this stuff was happening, and but then she would also, like, like I said, she would make stuff up.
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00:17:52.319She'd be like, Remember that time you played trumpet in that cathedral?
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00:17:54.400Be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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00:17:56.720That never happened, that never happened at this point.
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00:18:02.880I was I was a trying to implant memories in people as well, like totally the thing.
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00:18:06.160Yeah, also that, also the gaslighting.
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00:18:32.319But so I had that going on with my mom, and then at the same time, there was family members who were having falling outs who were cheating on their spouses, and so you know, I was like 10, 11 years old and being rounded up into the van in the middle of the night to go and like try to hunt down these cheating family members, and I'm just like in the back sitting playing on my Game Boy, and they're like, Are they in there?
00:18:32.480 -->
00:18:33.119Are they in there?
00:18:33.200 -->
00:18:33.759Is he with her?
00:18:33.839 -->
00:18:34.240Are they in there?
00:18:34.319 -->
00:18:36.799And then you find out that that person's with a teenager.
00:18:37.200 -->
00:18:40.160It it's just it's a lot.
00:18:41.039 -->
00:18:43.119It's a lot, that's a lot of childhood.
00:18:43.279 -->
00:18:44.720That's a lot of stuff.
00:18:44.880 -->
00:18:46.240And I thought everybody was doing this.
00:18:46.319 -->
00:18:49.519Well, I mean, I guess they were, they just weren't calling themselves psychics.
00:18:51.200 -->
00:19:10.480I mean, like, there's there's like casually, you know, trying to catch a family member in the act of cheating, and then there's like you know, like uh sending a message to the the the partner and helping them get out of the situation, you know, like there's a big difference storming an entire restaurant.
00:19:10.880 -->
00:19:13.279Yes, that's what which is what happened in my case.
00:19:13.440 -->
00:19:27.200Like we lived in a very small town, found the cheating family member at basically the only restaurant and the only like sit-down restaurant in town at that point being served by his teenage mistress, no less, all at the same time.
00:19:27.440 -->
00:19:28.559That was that was messy.
00:19:28.640 -->
00:19:29.200That was messy.
00:19:29.279 -->
00:19:31.279And then we all got given flowers the next day.
00:19:31.440 -->
00:19:36.240Like this family member sent us all flowers, and it's just so fucking weird.
00:19:36.400 -->
00:19:38.960It was first and last time I ever had flowers, I think.
00:19:39.119 -->
00:19:39.920Even when I was in the hospital.
00:19:42.640 -->
00:19:43.279Fuck you.
00:19:43.440 -->
00:19:44.880Don't even come near me.
00:19:47.839 -->
00:19:59.680Yeah, that one that was um both of those, that family member and my mother, I think, like I said, they were kind of the wheel of crazy in the house biological.
00:20:00.400 -->
00:20:06.240Related, so I think that they both had the same wiring is probably ultimately what was going on.
00:20:06.880 -->
00:20:11.119One time that being like adopted has sort of been in your favor.
00:20:11.440 -->
00:20:11.839Oh, really?
00:20:12.160 -->
00:20:17.359I've I have been thankful about that since I was a teenager and learned about genetics in school.
00:20:17.519 -->
00:20:22.160I was like, whoo! I've even told my my dad that like my dad who's raised me.
00:20:22.400 -->
00:20:27.119Like, no offense, man, but god damn am I glad I don't have her jeans.
00:20:27.359 -->
00:20:28.400Cause fuck.
00:20:34.079 -->
00:20:38.720I straight up my I my dad is very much and my dad's still to this day the only person.
00:20:38.880 -->
00:20:44.079My mom kind of gave me like a weird apology a week before she died because she it was 100% just about her.
00:20:44.240 -->
00:20:44.960She felt guilty.
00:20:45.119 -->
00:20:54.960She just like in the middle of ranting about her her roommate who was moving out, she just started sobbing and was like, please forgive me for being a bad mom.
00:20:55.039 -->
00:20:56.720And there was like no specific examples.
00:20:56.799 -->
00:20:59.279She just, I think she knew she was on the way out.
00:20:59.680 -->
00:21:01.759My dad is the only one who's ever apologized to me.
00:21:01.839 -->
00:21:08.079And he's very much, I think, just your just just an just an undiagnosed ADHD dad.
00:21:08.640 -->
00:21:15.519You know, he he might he might be Audi H D, but he's just always like he's just always busy like tinkering and doing stuff.
00:21:19.440 -->
00:21:20.960Often, oh that is true.
00:21:21.119 -->
00:21:21.599That is true.
00:21:22.160 -->
00:21:22.960Yeah, that is true.
00:21:23.279 -->
00:21:24.319He definitely has him.
00:21:24.640 -->
00:21:25.839Just definitely tissue him.
00:21:26.079 -->
00:21:28.799He was he was the only one in the family who's like, Yeah, I'll take you to a museum.
00:21:28.880 -->
00:21:29.440Hell yeah.
00:21:29.759 -->
00:21:33.680I still don't think I don't even think the rest of the family goes to museums.
00:21:33.920 -->
00:21:37.359Like they'll sometimes go to a theme park or something, but I don't think they go.
00:21:37.519 -->
00:21:46.480I mean, there was there was like these weird little roadside museums sometimes that my brother would take me to when we were little, but I don't think that was so much about like uh that yeah.
00:21:47.039 -->
00:21:52.880I think roadside museum in America, and I'm like, I feel like it's gonna be haunted.
00:21:53.200 -->
00:21:53.839That is terrible.
00:21:54.160 -->
00:22:07.279One of them was, one of them was so one of them was the house of Alex Haley, which is the guy who wrote Roots, the which is this huge series about slavery, very intense, very, very intense.
00:22:07.440 -->
00:22:31.680And then I think he also wrote Amistad, which was a really big movie in the 90s, and then there was the Casey Jones Railroad Museum, which this Casey Jones was this railroad guy that crashed his train, and his house is like two and a half hours away from where I grew up, and so sometimes on a Sunday, my brother would insist we drive there to eat the breakfast buffet and walk through the little museum.
00:22:31.839 -->
00:22:34.559I that makes my whole body shake.
00:22:34.640 -->
00:22:43.039I'm like two and a half hours, and then one day he stopped and bought puppies one time, like fucking unreal, dude.
00:22:43.119 -->
00:22:45.279My family is unreal.
00:22:45.440 -->
00:22:46.559It's so weird.
00:22:53.519 -->
00:22:54.799Uh yeah, yeah.
00:22:54.880 -->
00:23:04.640And there was always so there was this running joke in my family that my mom attracted weirdos, and all of her friend all of her friends were fucking weirdos.
00:23:04.880 -->
00:23:06.319They really, really, really were.
00:23:06.480 -->
00:23:22.480She had she had this one friend that she was friends with forever, and she was my godmother, and she and her husband did weird puppet play with each other, and they they would just leave their puppets out all over the house, uh, which was they were also like these Star Trek obsessed people.
00:23:22.559 -->
00:23:26.319So they had one room that was just so full of Star Trek stuff you couldn't get into it.
00:23:26.480 -->
00:23:36.240But the puppets were it, but she always had these weird friends, she always had really weird friends, and she she was seeing my face.
00:23:36.400 -->
00:23:39.200Oh my god, baby.
00:23:39.359 -->
00:23:51.200Well, she became a special ed teacher at a neighboring school, not the school that I went to, and there was a kid that was in there, Jeff, who now we know we kind of Connie and I talked about this.
00:23:51.359 -->
00:23:56.720I I think it's possible he had savant syndrome, which is not the same as autism, apparently.
00:23:56.880 -->
00:23:59.680I did not know this, I was not aware of this.
00:24:00.480 -->
00:24:02.240There's a distinction between the two.
00:24:02.319 -->
00:24:07.839You can't have savant syndrome in autism, but there is a distinct like diagnostic difference.
00:24:08.079 -->
00:24:10.480Yeah, at that point in the 90s, they were just calling him.
00:24:10.559 -->
00:24:35.599They said he had Asperger's at that time, but he was like super, super high intelligence, super sweet kid, and he had a hard time in school because he really, really struggled with communication and he struggled with anything that was like outside his special field of interest, but absolutely, absolutely brilliant, like the kind of person who could he literally you could say, like, what day of the week was Tuesday, or like what day of the week was the 4th of July in 1786?
00:24:35.680 -->
00:24:39.599And he could tell you, like, oh, that's a Tuesday, that's a Wednesday, that's a Thursday, or whatever it was.
00:24:39.680 -->
00:24:41.599Like, absolutely freaking brilliant kid.
00:24:41.759 -->
00:24:47.440So my mom ended up befriending his mother, who was quite a colorful character herself.
00:24:47.599 -->
00:24:52.799She adored Jeff, she was like with him all the time, so our families became friends, and we spent a lot of time.
00:24:52.960 -->
00:25:00.640Like on the weekends, we would go and Jeff and I would sit in the back of the van, and our moms would sit in the front and just and we'd go to like flea markets and stuff like that.
00:25:00.799 -->
00:25:04.000Well, Jeff turns 16, his mom gets remarried.
00:25:04.079 -->
00:25:13.279She gets remarried to this super, super, super wealthy, well-known guy locally that owns a well-known business in our small town.
00:25:13.519 -->
00:25:18.000The guy ends up being a drunk, abusive piece of shit, beats up on her all the time.
00:25:18.240 -->
00:25:22.400There were several times where she would call my mom in the middle of the night and ask for help and stuff like that.
00:25:22.559 -->
00:25:24.480One night he really roughed her up.
00:25:24.559 -->
00:25:26.799And so Carol, Jeff's mom, leaves the house.
00:25:26.960 -->
00:25:29.200Jeff is left alone in the house.
00:25:29.359 -->
00:25:30.240Jeff is 16.
00:25:30.319 -->
00:25:35.519He's probably about 6'3, 6'4, about 300 pounds, or maybe about he might be 250.
00:25:35.599 -->
00:25:35.920He's huge.
00:25:36.000 -->
00:25:37.359He's a huge, huge, huge, huge kid.
00:25:37.519 -->
00:25:41.920Jeff decides to go and confront his stepdad and say, You're not gonna hurt my mom anymore.
00:25:42.160 -->
00:25:45.119Takes a baseball bat with him to try to intimidate him.
00:25:45.279 -->
00:25:46.880Ultimately, stepdad yells at him.
00:25:47.039 -->
00:25:51.759Stepdad goes to the bedside table to go for a gun that is kept in the drawer.
00:25:52.160 -->
00:25:54.400Jeff jumps on top of him, beats him to death.
00:25:54.720 -->
00:25:55.680This one.
00:25:57.359 -->
00:25:57.680Yeah.
00:25:58.000 -->
00:25:58.640Yeah.
00:25:58.960 -->
00:25:59.359Yeah.
00:25:59.599 -->
00:26:12.799Jeff immediately panics, drags the mattress with the body on it outside, hoses it down, and then realizing what he's done, he calls his biological father, who is also a piece of shit, a human piece of shit.
00:26:12.960 -->
00:26:15.519And his dad says, Call the police and confess, they'll understand.
00:26:15.599 -->
00:26:18.640It was self-defense, they'll understand, they'll understand.
00:26:18.960 -->
00:26:25.519Spoiler, ladies and gentlemen, they did not understand because they were friends with the piece of shit who had been killed.
00:26:25.599 -->
00:26:36.079So Jeff was basically arrested right then and there, put in prison as an adult in the state of Tennessee at 16, tried as an adult for a capital murder at 16.
00:26:36.799 -->
00:26:43.039I I think he's out now, but that was obviously a formative childhood experience.
00:26:43.599 -->
00:26:58.400I just, oh man, honestly, like America's the way America is like the laws work against anyone who is not rich is just it's so terrifying.
00:26:58.640 -->
00:27:01.440And that self-defense thing only applies if they like you.
00:27:01.599 -->
00:27:03.200If they don't like you, that's it.
00:27:03.359 -->
00:27:06.319And no one liked Jeff because Jeff was Jeff.
00:27:06.640 -->
00:27:09.039Oh no, the evidence is gone.
00:27:09.279 -->
00:27:12.000Oh no, yeah, there's no self-defense anymore.
00:27:12.319 -->
00:27:16.000Yeah, they they claimed that there was no gun found and all this other kind of stuff.
00:27:16.079 -->
00:27:18.559And Jeff Jeff just didn't have it in him to lie.
00:27:18.640 -->
00:27:22.640I mean, the damn kid called the police himself and told them what happened.
00:27:22.720 -->
00:27:25.680He was just not a kid that would do that to his detriment.
00:27:25.759 -->
00:27:35.839That's that's one of the reasons why he struggled so much because he couldn't, he wasn't able to tell the kind of social lies that you have to tell to be socially successful in a neurotypical world.
00:27:36.000 -->
00:27:42.559He couldn't like his dad expecting him to be able to make a phone call to the police right after happening.
00:27:43.039 -->
00:27:45.519Yeah, like that's that's crazy.
00:27:45.839 -->
00:27:50.079Yeah, he was the the dad was a by word for piece of shit in my house.
00:27:50.160 -->
00:27:55.599Like, I remember just my mother raging about that, being like, he should never have told him to call the police.
00:27:55.680 -->
00:27:57.519He should have immediately called a lawyer.
00:27:57.680 -->
00:28:02.480The first fucking thing he should have called a lawyer, and then a lawyer should have contacted the police.
00:28:02.640 -->
00:28:11.200Like, that's absolutely his his dad basically set him up to get fucked because everyone knew when this went immediately when it happened.
00:28:11.359 -->
00:28:12.480We were like, Oh, that's it.
00:28:12.559 -->
00:28:18.640They're gonna they're gonna throw the book at him because his stepdad, again, wealthy man with a business in a small town.
00:28:18.799 -->
00:28:22.480You might as well be God, a wealthy white man with a business in a small town.
00:28:22.559 -->
00:28:27.839That's he had this this business for like 40 years, so everybody knew this business.
00:28:28.160 -->
00:28:28.720That's it.
00:28:28.799 -->
00:28:30.640You know, you might as well have shot the president.
00:28:30.799 -->
00:28:32.400Like you're going to Guantanamo.
00:28:33.039 -->
00:28:33.200Yeah.
00:28:33.359 -->
00:28:33.599Yeah.
00:28:33.680 -->
00:28:36.160So there was there were they were never gonna listen to self-defense.
00:28:36.319 -->
00:28:48.400I believe Jeff's gotten out now because there was a law changed uh that basically if you were tried for a capital offense 16 or younger in Tennessee and you had gotten life, no parole, then they had to retry you.
00:28:48.559 -->
00:28:53.519So I think Jeff's gotten out now, but he he will have been in prison longer than he was out of prison.
00:28:53.599 -->
00:28:55.119And again, he was high supports need.
00:28:55.359 -->
00:28:57.359His mom has died since he's been in prison.
00:28:57.519 -->
00:28:59.680I believe his father has also died.
00:28:59.839 -->
00:29:06.079He may not, his dad might still be around, but again, his dad's a piece of shit who was not in his life before all this happened.
00:29:06.240 -->
00:29:08.319So uh I don't know, man.
00:29:08.559 -->
00:29:11.119I wonder why we have brain damage.
00:29:12.400 -->
00:29:12.720Yeah.
00:29:13.200 -->
00:29:22.480Again, I thought this was happening to everybody, and that was another one that my family was like, Don't tell, don't, don't talk to any of and that one I think I did not tell my friends about when it was going on.
00:29:22.559 -->
00:29:35.519Some of them had met Jeff and they they noticed when he wasn't around anymore, but I I believed that one I was like afraid that we were gonna get in trouble for murder somehow because I knew someone who had murdered someone, so that was pretty like holy fuck.
00:29:35.599 -->
00:29:39.920Like, this was someone I had I would like let play my Game Boy, you know?
00:29:40.160 -->
00:29:43.359Yeah, like very intense, very, very, very, very intense.
00:29:43.680 -->
00:29:44.880We should try and interview him.
00:29:45.039 -->
00:29:47.119No, I'm kidding, that would traumatize us both.
00:29:47.279 -->
00:29:55.359Well, that's um I'm yeah, I'm scared that you know, like what if he's fallen in with like white supremacy elements when he was in jail or any of that?
00:29:55.440 -->
00:29:57.920He there's any any of that because he was in general population.
00:29:58.000 -->
00:30:03.440He was a 16-year-old kid with autism or savant syndrome left and and general population.
00:30:03.519 -->
00:30:26.720And and they purposefully put him in, they would move him around because they were trying to keep his mom from having access to him because she would just go to the prison constantly to visit him, and so they would move him further and further and further away from wherever she lived, because so they was in Tennessee and they put him in the worst of the worst of the worst maximum security facilities where there was like rapists and child murderers and all this kind of stuff.
00:30:26.880 -->
00:30:30.720And he was in he was in population with those people, and she was going all the time.
00:30:30.799 -->
00:30:39.680So then they moved him to like Ohio, and then they moved him to Indiana, and they just kept m trying to move him, and she ended up going broke essentially because she kept moving.
00:30:39.839 -->
00:30:43.359Anywhere they would move him, she would move to follow him.
00:30:43.519 -->
00:30:46.480And she, I think she died about 10 years ago of cancer.
00:30:46.799 -->
00:30:49.279She had pretty bad cancer, and she didn't have money to treat it.
00:30:49.359 -->
00:30:50.880So that's America.
00:30:51.359 -->
00:30:52.799That's the America I grew up in.
00:30:55.599 -->
00:30:56.799Yeah, yeah.
00:30:57.119 -->
00:30:57.440Yeah.
00:30:57.680 -->
00:30:58.720Oh yeah.
00:30:59.519 -->
00:31:02.319And you know, this is a good set.
00:31:03.759 -->
00:31:06.799It's such a it actually was such a violent place to grow up.
00:31:06.880 -->
00:31:13.519I mean, Memphis is so I grew up outside of Memphis and it's it's usually ranked like number five most violent cities in America.
00:31:13.680 -->
00:31:24.000And it I I think it just doesn't even register to me because senior year they found a girl's dead body, like basically dumped not far from my friend's house, like basically between our school and my friend's house.
00:31:24.160 -->
00:31:27.680They would find dead bodies all the time, all the time, all the time.
00:31:27.759 -->
00:31:45.839And then we had the West Memphis 3 happened as well when I was little, and that just kept carrying on and carrying on, carrying on, which was the the Robin Hood Hills murders, for those who don't know, and they they the state of Arkansas convicted three children, three teenagers who were absolutely innocent in a satanic panic scandal.
00:31:46.079 -->
00:31:47.599They didn't deserve that, yeah.
00:31:47.680 -->
00:31:52.799And and yeah, literally, and it set fire to the satanic panic era.
00:31:53.119 -->
00:32:00.960Like, like it was just it was like adding stoking the fire with a giant motherfucking log doing that with what they did to those three kids.
00:32:01.680 -->
00:32:08.400And the worst part about it all at the end is that those three boys who did die will never like have actual justice.
00:32:08.559 -->
00:32:16.000Like they'll there really there's any kind of evidence that ever could have been attributed to finding the actual murderer gone.
00:32:16.240 -->
00:32:17.680Gone, yeah, it's gone.
00:32:17.920 -->
00:32:26.720Minus, minus apparently, there is still a one of the binds that was on one of the kids has Terry Hobbs hair in it.
00:32:26.880 -->
00:32:30.720They found Terry Hobbs hair in one of the kids' ligatures.
00:32:30.960 -->
00:32:33.680So he, I think, I don't know if he's still alive though.
00:32:33.759 -->
00:32:49.200I think a lot of these parents are even dead now because it's West Memphis is tough, but even growing up in the wake of West Memphis 3, it fucking sucked because I was a kid that wore all black and listened to metal and listened to punk and all that, and you were that's it, you're a devil worshiper.
00:32:49.359 -->
00:32:52.240Everybody just automatically thought you were a demon worshiping.
00:32:52.400 -->
00:32:56.559Even my brother used to say stuff to me like, I can't believe you're gonna let her out of the house looking like that.
00:32:56.720 -->
00:32:58.559Like they're gonna think we all worship the devil.
00:32:58.640 -->
00:33:01.119I'm like, mom's in here fucking talking to aliens, right?
00:33:01.200 -->
00:33:06.000I think me wearing black is the least of our fucking problems in this family.
00:33:06.240 -->
00:33:16.000Uh your brother's ability to actually, I don't know, culturally make a decent choice for himself or anyone else around him is is pretty fucking skew anyway.
00:33:16.079 -->
00:33:18.880So non-existent, non-existent.
00:33:19.200 -->
00:33:23.839The last piece of the puzzle to me, which is not I don't think I've ever shared these stories before.
00:33:24.000 -->
00:33:29.680Maybe Connie, when I was telling her these yesterday when we were kind of going through this, she was like, What the fuck?
00:33:29.839 -->
00:33:31.440So I can feel the pain.
00:33:31.759 -->
00:33:32.240Oh my god.
00:33:33.599 -->
00:33:49.839So I I don't okay, so I don't I don't like the word haunted because I it I don't know what it was, but I uh for a period of time my family lived in these two houses across the street from one another, which had incredibly, incredibly weird stuff going on.
00:33:49.920 -->
00:34:02.640And what's interesting is it does actually tie into like my mom and my brother having escalated, escalated behaviors, extremely escalated behaviors, because the stuff that went on in the house.
00:34:02.720 -->
00:34:09.920I I didn't experience the worst of this stuff, I saw stuff and I felt stuff, but it was always kind of like secondhand.
00:34:10.079 -->
00:34:11.519I was not the target.
00:34:11.679 -->
00:34:14.079Um I think that's basically what I'm trying to say.
00:34:14.239 -->
00:34:16.960So my brother fell in love with this house.
00:34:17.119 -->
00:34:20.239There were these two well-known houses on this main road in town.
00:34:20.320 -->
00:34:23.199This one house had these big gates in front of it, super well known.
00:34:23.280 -->
00:34:25.039Everybody knew the gates, yada yada yada.
00:34:25.199 -->
00:34:29.280He ends up becoming friends with a family that owns the land because of course he did, right?
00:34:29.360 -->
00:34:36.719He wants this land, gets the history of the land, used to be a plantation, got burned down in Sherman's March to the Sea and the American Civil War.
00:34:36.880 -->
00:34:41.199Lots of slaves on the land, all that kind of good, wonderful, lovely stuff.
00:34:41.440 -->
00:34:42.400He gets the house.
00:34:42.480 -->
00:34:45.519He moves into the the old house first, right?
00:34:45.760 -->
00:34:47.760Immediately, weird shit starts happening.
00:34:47.920 -->
00:34:50.719Immediately, immediately, immediately weird stuff starts happening.
00:34:50.880 -->
00:34:54.400Faucets will go on, and this this house is still from the 1940s.
00:34:54.480 -->
00:34:58.320It still has all the original features from the 1940s in this house that's on this land.
00:34:58.480 -->
00:35:02.320Faucets will turn on and water just going everywhere, doors are slamming.
00:35:02.639 -->
00:35:09.199There's this old, old, old, old phone that had its own little vestibule in this hallway.
00:35:09.440 -->
00:35:13.760It was so old it couldn't even be hooked up anymore because they didn't have the wiring for it.
00:35:13.920 -->
00:35:15.440It would just ring, it would just ring.
00:35:15.519 -->
00:35:18.480Even in the daylight, daylight, nighttime, it would just ring.
00:35:18.639 -->
00:35:19.280So fucking weird.
00:35:22.719 -->
00:35:23.519Very, very weird.
00:35:23.679 -->
00:35:29.039My brother and sister-in-law got married right after they moved into it and they went on their honeymoon.
00:35:29.119 -->
00:35:33.519And while they were on their honeymoon, my sister-in-law's mom stayed in the house.
00:35:33.679 -->
00:35:37.039And while she stayed in the house, she called me and my mom again.
00:35:37.119 -->
00:35:49.760One, I think it was like in the afternoon when she had just gotten up from a nap, called us screaming, panicked, demanding we come and pick her up because stuff had flown off the mantle, these decorations that had been on the mantle and broken, flown across the room, broken.
00:35:49.840 -->
00:35:51.679She's like, Get me the fuck out of this house now.
00:35:51.840 -->
00:35:55.280She literally left and went back to the state that she lived in.
00:35:55.440 -->
00:35:57.599She got on a flight like that night and went home.
00:35:58.159 -->
00:35:58.719I went to.
00:35:59.039 -->
00:35:59.360Yeah.
00:35:59.519 -->
00:36:01.119So the house was just locked up.
00:36:01.280 -->
00:36:04.880My brother and sister-in-law, we picked them up from the airport when they come back from their honeymoon.
00:36:05.039 -->
00:36:06.000We bring them back home.
00:36:06.159 -->
00:36:08.800There had been boxes of photos that were under the couch.
00:36:08.880 -->
00:36:09.840I believe they were under the couch.
00:36:09.920 -->
00:36:11.360They might have been on the dining room table.
00:36:11.519 -->
00:36:13.440Either way, boxes opened, spilled.
00:36:13.519 -->
00:36:16.320My sister-in-law's face had been ripped out of pictures.
00:36:16.559 -->
00:36:22.880And they were I distinctly remember seeing them scattered across the living room floor when we came in the house.
00:36:23.280 -->
00:36:25.519Because I came in the house with them when this happened.
00:36:25.679 -->
00:36:27.280So that was super freaking freaky.
00:36:27.519 -->
00:36:34.960I you can't even pin that on like I can't remember the word for it, but like when someone like secretly squats in your house and like.
00:36:35.519 -->
00:36:37.039Well, that's what we thought it was at first.
00:36:37.199 -->
00:36:43.280We thought maybe like my brother had cheated or something, and his little girlfriend had gotten in the house and ripped out my sister-in-law's pictures.
00:36:43.440 -->
00:36:44.880But the house was alarmed.
00:36:45.119 -->
00:36:49.039They had alarms on the house, and the alarms had never, ever, ever gone off.
00:36:49.199 -->
00:36:49.599Ever.
00:36:49.840 -->
00:36:50.159Oof.
00:36:50.400 -->
00:36:52.559So no one had gone through any of the doors.
00:36:52.639 -->
00:36:56.960There was like two main doors and a basement, and none of the alarms had ever gone off.
00:36:57.199 -->
00:36:58.880That's one that was another weird thing.
00:36:58.960 -->
00:37:05.840There doors would open and shut, faucets would go off, lights would go on and off, but the alarm, the house alarm would never go off.
00:37:06.000 -->
00:37:09.360It the motion sensors never ever ever went off for that kind of stuff.
00:37:09.679 -->
00:37:13.280Anyway, so the the pictures ripped up obviously freaked my sister-in-law out.
00:37:13.360 -->
00:37:15.280She obviously thought something was going on with my brother.
00:37:15.440 -->
00:37:16.800Escalation, escalation.
00:37:16.880 -->
00:37:19.760My brother makes up in the middle of the night and unplugged radio.
00:37:20.000 -->
00:37:30.480The like they're static and the dial is moving, and he can hear like the radio stations changing, and he hears my sister-in-law's dead dad's voice.
00:37:30.639 -->
00:37:32.880He and this is he does not believe in this stuff.
00:37:32.960 -->
00:37:34.719He still does not believe in this stuff.
00:37:34.880 -->
00:37:42.719And hand to Christ swears that he heard her dead dad's voice coming over the radio, and it scared the shit out of him because he thought he was being threatened.
00:37:42.880 -->
00:37:44.880His behavior got worse and worse and worse.
00:37:45.039 -->
00:37:47.599Like he just absolutely declined in his behavior.
00:37:47.760 -->
00:37:51.280Toys, my nephew's toys that didn't have batteries in them would go off.
00:37:51.360 -->
00:37:58.239They'd like go across the floor, lights and sirens because he had these little police cars and things, and they would take the batteries out because they hated the noise.
00:37:58.400 -->
00:37:59.199Those would go off.
00:37:59.360 -->
00:38:01.599You would hear people walking around in the attic.
00:38:01.760 -->
00:38:14.239The biggest thing was again, I was with my brother who did not believe in any of this, and his best friend, and we're in the basement, and I'm down in the basement with them because I'm I'll be damned if I'm gonna be left upstairs in this creepy ass house by myself.
00:38:14.400 -->
00:38:16.960So we're all I don't even want to leave by myself.
00:38:17.760 -->
00:38:25.280We're all down in the basement, and my brother is is a few feet away to the right, to my right, like showing his friend some something he found.
00:38:25.440 -->
00:38:29.840And we hear walking upstairs, and so my brother says, Oh, that must be my wife.
00:38:30.000 -->
00:38:30.800She must be home.
00:38:30.960 -->
00:38:32.320Aaron, can you go out and help her?
00:38:32.400 -->
00:38:34.559Because she was supposed to bring home groceries from work.
00:38:34.719 -->
00:38:41.599So I don't go up the stairs into the house, I go up the stairs that lead outside straight to the driveway from the basement.
00:38:41.760 -->
00:38:44.239I pop out, I look, there's nobody there.
00:38:44.400 -->
00:38:45.280There is no one there.
00:38:45.440 -->
00:38:48.639There's a there's a big long driveway that leads you to the street.
00:38:48.719 -->
00:38:51.199There's no one on the driveway, there's no one parked behind the house.
00:38:51.280 -->
00:38:52.880My sister-in-law is not there.
00:38:53.039 -->
00:38:56.480I turn around to tell them, and I'm coming back down the stairs into the basement.
00:38:56.639 -->
00:39:00.400By the time I get to the bottom, I look up at the stairs that lead into the house.
00:39:00.559 -->
00:39:06.079Mind you, my brother and his friend are still standing just not far from the base of those stairs in front of me.
00:39:06.320 -->
00:39:10.320A huge black, like it was like a just like this cloud that you could see through.
00:39:10.400 -->
00:39:17.199It almost looked like teeny tiny little black dots, like gnats or flies or something, floats down the stairs, goes straight for them.
00:39:17.280 -->
00:39:19.440And as it like hits them, it disappears.
00:39:19.599 -->
00:39:20.800And they both saw it.
00:39:20.960 -->
00:39:29.199They, these two grown ass men, they would have been probably in their 30s by this point, just stop and like they just no one says anything for a second.
00:39:29.280 -->
00:39:30.960We're all just fucking freeze.
00:39:31.280 -->
00:39:34.159And then Mark eventually is like, all right, let's go outside.
00:39:34.320 -->
00:39:35.920And nobody wanted to talk about it.
00:39:36.079 -->
00:39:37.119No one wanted to say anything.
00:39:37.199 -->
00:39:41.039It was just like, get the fuck out of the basement right now, right now, right now, right now.
00:39:41.119 -->
00:39:47.119And they we were outside for ages until his friend finally left, and my sister in law came home, and then we went inside, like nothing happened.
00:39:47.199 -->
00:39:50.400But shit like this happened in this house all the time.
00:39:51.119 -->
00:39:52.239The house, man.
00:39:52.320 -->
00:39:53.760What are you doing?
00:39:54.000 -->
00:39:55.519It's so fucking weird.
00:39:55.760 -->
00:39:58.320Again, I don't, I'm not saying I don't know what it was.
00:39:58.400 -->
00:39:59.840I thought it was just flies or something.
00:40:00.239 -->
00:40:00.880But it disappeared.
00:40:00.960 -->
00:40:02.159There were no there were no flies.
00:40:02.320 -->
00:40:02.880There were no flies.
00:40:02.960 -->
00:40:03.679There were no gnats.
00:40:03.840 -->
00:40:04.960Like it just disappeared.
00:40:05.119 -->
00:40:06.000It was the weirdest thing.
00:40:06.079 -->
00:40:09.119It was like grainy, almost like an old picture.
00:40:09.199 -->
00:40:10.639It was just like it was very weird.
00:40:10.800 -->
00:40:12.000Very, very, very, very weird.
00:40:12.239 -->
00:40:12.559Yeah.
00:40:12.719 -->
00:40:13.360Very creepy.
00:40:13.599 -->
00:40:15.360It makes my stomach turn.
00:40:16.320 -->
00:40:24.480So my brother eventually moves out of that house, and he moves into the house across the street, which is a little bit newer and it's a little bit bigger because my my brother has a bunch of kids.
00:40:24.639 -->
00:40:29.679Well, when he moves out of that house, my mom moves into this creepy haunted house.
00:40:29.840 -->
00:40:31.679And thank God I'm gone by this point.
00:40:31.760 -->
00:40:32.480I'm in college.
00:40:32.639 -->
00:40:35.039I think I'm in like my first or second year of college.
00:40:35.199 -->
00:40:45.039She moves into that house and more weird shit starts happening, and her behavior becomes fucking deranged as well while she's living in that house.
00:40:45.360 -->
00:40:48.079She swore hand to God up and down.
00:40:48.159 -->
00:40:55.360She, so the house was heated by a furnace, and it had these big huge vents in the floor that the heat would come up through, right?
00:40:55.440 -->
00:40:59.440Because the furnace is in the basement and then it heats the pipes and it blows the hot air up into the house.
00:40:59.679 -->
00:41:10.480She would wake up in the middle of the night and she would hear like a child's voice calling to the dog, like trying to get our dog Molly to come downstairs into the basement, which was creepy as fuck.
00:41:10.639 -->
00:41:11.679Creepy, creepy, creepy.
00:41:16.559 -->
00:41:22.239This is the only time when I was like, okay, I think I might believe this with my mom was when this stuff was happening.
00:41:22.480 -->
00:41:23.360It was like Amity Bill.
00:41:23.840 -->
00:41:26.960Like your mom is definitely saying something like legit.
00:41:27.119 -->
00:41:27.840Holy crap.
00:41:28.000 -->
00:41:28.159Yeah.
00:41:28.400 -->
00:41:28.559Yeah.
00:41:28.639 -->
00:41:30.320Her behavior just got worse and worse and worse.
00:41:30.400 -->
00:41:34.000She really stopped doing her psychic stuff when she was doing this as well.
00:41:34.079 -->
00:41:36.400And she it was it was very, very dark.
00:41:36.480 -->
00:41:38.320It was very, very deep, very, very dark.
00:41:38.639 -->
00:41:42.239She would what what she there was something else she did in that house.
00:41:42.320 -->
00:41:43.119It was absolutely nuts.
00:41:43.199 -->
00:41:43.440I don't know.
00:41:43.519 -->
00:41:44.400She she went nuts.
00:41:44.559 -->
00:41:51.840Meanwhile, across the street at the other house, which again, same land, family owns both of these houses across the street from each other.
00:41:52.000 -->
00:41:59.280We've got my nephews saying things like, Oh, the little boy that lives in my room told me to throw my fire truck down the stairs.
00:41:59.519 -->
00:42:02.639And there's this like creepy little room, right?
00:42:02.719 -->
00:42:07.920That's off of their room that's got it creepy little attic space, crawl space kind of thing.
00:42:08.079 -->
00:42:09.679Absolutely unsettling.
00:42:10.239 -->
00:42:13.840And multiple kids were like, Yeah, no, there's kids that live upstairs in our room.
00:42:14.000 -->
00:42:15.920And everybody was just like, Yeah, this is fine.
00:42:16.079 -->
00:42:23.119The stuff with the first house eventually got got so bad that my mom got people to come out and bless it to try to get stuff to stop.
00:42:23.199 -->
00:42:31.599But it was like the most creepy stuff would go flying off of shelves, stuff would go flying off of tables, and there was no cats or anything living in there.
00:42:31.679 -->
00:42:33.760There was no one, they didn't have any pets, nothing like that.
00:42:33.920 -->
00:42:38.320So I don't, I still to this day don't know what it was, but it did not feel nice.
00:42:38.480 -->
00:42:41.360Like the second you came onto the property, it did not feel nice.
00:42:41.519 -->
00:42:43.920It didn't have a nice history, from what I can understand.
00:42:44.000 -->
00:42:50.960So you know, but I it was it was not it was not comforting, it was not friendly, it was not a house you wanted to stay in by any means.
00:42:51.119 -->
00:42:55.039It still to this day is the creepiest looking fucking thing that's ever existed.
00:42:58.159 -->
00:43:06.880So I have one I have one story that I can share in comparison to that, and like I've never really experienced very many like spooky things.
00:43:07.199 -->
00:43:14.079Maybe when I was a really young child, like inexplicable things that sort of like could be just a child's dreamy imagination.
00:43:14.239 -->
00:43:28.719But when I was like 16, 17 years old, I was living in this a street that like was like I was it was a hill, like um the two hills on the side of this this street.
00:43:28.800 -->
00:43:32.480The the town I lived in was just like literally rolling meadow hills.
00:43:33.360 -->
00:43:39.599And we lived at the the bottom part of these two hills, like literally in the bottom crevice of the divot.
00:43:40.239 -->
00:43:54.480And what ended up happening was it was like late at night, and I was heading out to to see my boyfriend at the time, and I was the way that the trees would come over the like the road, it was really cool.
00:43:54.639 -->
00:43:59.519You could look up at the stars and like see all the leaves and stuff, and I really just uh the so it's so cool.
00:43:59.599 -->
00:44:03.199So I would always walk up the middle of the road is my favorite thing to do.
00:44:03.440 -->
00:44:06.639So it's late at night, I'm like walking up the middle of the road and I'm toddling along.
00:44:06.719 -->
00:44:11.280And as I'm like, you know, I've just started the actual climb at the base of the hill, sort of thing.
00:44:11.360 -->
00:44:12.320And it's not a big hill.
00:44:12.400 -->
00:44:15.440We're talking like maximum, 10 houses.
00:44:16.239 -->
00:44:17.599You know, it's not a huge hill.
00:44:18.880 -->
00:44:24.559And I look at the I look up and I see this girl walking towards me.
00:44:24.719 -->
00:44:26.880She's in this like long skirt, and I couldn't really make it out.
00:44:26.960 -->
00:44:29.440And I'm like walking and I'm walking, and she gets closer.
00:44:29.599 -->
00:44:46.719I realize she's wearing a bonnet, like one of those like like tie-on bonnet hats that like cover all your hair, and this like blouse and this like mauvey ready brownish like skirt that's like to the ground, can't see her feet because it's so long, kind of thing.
00:44:46.960 -->
00:44:51.760And I'm walking and I'm looking at her and I'm like, okay, that's an odd thing to wear at nighttime.
00:44:51.840 -->
00:44:56.719And yeah, I'm walking and she's walking past me, and oh my god, I'm getting like shivers thinking about it.
00:44:57.119 -->
00:44:58.000Oh my god, okay.
00:44:58.159 -->
00:45:01.679So she's like walking, I'm walking, she's walking, I'm going up the hill.
00:45:01.920 -->
00:45:04.159She's walking in the center of the road, too, mind you.
00:45:04.239 -->
00:45:10.239Like, this is what like sort of messed me up was that she I was like, Oh, she also likes to walk in the middle of the road.
00:45:10.400 -->
00:45:16.559I found a buddy, and so I got to smile at her as we're as I'm walking past her.
00:45:16.800 -->
00:45:18.159She just looks me deep in the eye.
00:45:19.039 -->
00:45:20.159That's all I got from her.
00:45:20.320 -->
00:45:22.480I've got shivers all over my body right now.
00:45:24.000 -->
00:45:31.840And then and she just like looks at me deep in the eye as she passes, and then I like I'm like, okay, panic.
00:45:32.159 -->
00:45:37.199She's like two meters away from me at this point, like walking past me, sort of thing.
00:45:37.280 -->
00:45:38.719That's the like the gap between us.
00:45:38.800 -->
00:45:42.239And I'm like, just keep walking up the hill, just keep walking up the hill, don't look back, don't look back.
00:45:42.320 -->
00:45:43.599And I'm like, no, I have to look back.
00:45:43.679 -->
00:45:44.480I can't not look back.
00:45:44.559 -->
00:45:45.119I have to look back.
00:45:45.199 -->
00:45:53.360And I look back, and she's walking up the other side, looking at me the whole way, and I'm like, oh my god, keep walking, keep walking, keep walking, and get to the top of the hill.
00:45:53.440 -->
00:45:54.320I turn back, she's gone.
00:45:54.400 -->
00:45:55.360That's absolutely gone.
00:45:55.519 -->
00:46:02.880So I was like, I had no idea how to process it, and I didn't want to go back down to my house because that's weird.
00:46:04.639 -->
00:46:06.079It's the creepy girl.
00:46:06.320 -->
00:46:13.599Yeah, but that almost sounds like one of those time slip things, you know, where like time rubs against each other or like that kind of thing.
00:46:13.679 -->
00:46:22.159That's can you imagine like the time the just like some random girl working walking at night in some other century, just being like, What is this cracker you?
00:46:22.719 -->
00:46:24.239I had purple eyebrows, bro.
00:46:24.400 -->
00:46:25.840Like, I was I was coach.
00:46:29.440 -->
00:46:32.320Witch, that's that's wild.
00:46:32.400 -->
00:46:36.800Yeah, see, that's that kind of weird stuff was just all everywhere all the time, all the time.
00:46:36.960 -->
00:46:39.360And I was also like terrified of going to antique shops.
00:46:39.440 -->
00:46:49.519I went to antique shops all the time and would buy stuff because my dad would also was the only one in the family who would take me to antique shops to just let me look around, and I he would always let me buy something really, really cheap.
00:46:49.679 -->
00:46:54.960But I was scared to to bring stuff home because my mom would be like, There's gonna be spirits attached to it.
00:46:55.039 -->
00:46:58.800Don't bring home stuff from antique shops, there's dead people attached to it.
00:46:58.960 -->
00:47:07.440So that was kind of just like my ex wouldn't like me buying stuff from op shops because dead people might have used it, and I was just like, That's that sounds like my mother.
00:47:08.000 -->
00:47:10.719Yeah, I remember being like, Well, maybe they're cool though.
00:47:10.880 -->
00:47:12.239What if they're a cool dead person?
00:47:12.400 -->
00:47:12.960What if they're fun?
00:47:13.519 -->
00:47:14.880Why are we afraid of it?
00:47:15.119 -->
00:47:17.519Yeah, no, everything was like evil.
00:47:17.599 -->
00:47:23.280My mom, everything was evil except what she did and what she could do and what she could talk to and all that kind of stuff.
00:47:23.360 -->
00:47:27.920But yeah, it was like that all the time we had to leave out stuff for the elementals that lived in our house.
00:47:28.079 -->
00:47:41.440She said that elementals lived in our house, and we had to like leave offerings for them, which was crazy because then she also hoarded and let the animals shit and piss everywhere, and like had sewage running into the carpets and all this kind of stuff.
00:47:41.599 -->
00:47:45.199And I remember thinking, like, well, why do we have to leave offerings to elementals?
00:47:45.280 -->
00:47:48.480Why don't you just like get the fucking roof fixed instead?
00:47:48.639 -->
00:47:52.800Like, wouldn't they prefer us to get the house taken care of?
00:47:52.960 -->
00:47:59.920And the ones in the car, and she would like make us talk to the elementals in the car and thank them for letting the car run.
00:48:00.079 -->
00:48:02.559And again, I remember being like, I don't think that's how that works.
00:48:02.719 -->
00:48:06.159I don't think there's a gnome living in here that makes the car run.
00:48:06.239 -->
00:48:09.440I don't think there was a gnome making cars run.
00:48:09.519 -->
00:48:15.360I would already be best friends with my car gnome because the amount of times I had to get my car fixed recently.
00:48:15.679 -->
00:48:17.039Like, oh my god.
00:48:17.280 -->
00:48:18.480I want a car gnome.
00:48:18.719 -->
00:48:19.599Oh, yeah.
00:48:19.679 -->
00:48:30.159Well, you could uh if you lived with my mom, you guys could you could have lots of car gnomes, car elementals, and she but she would always be like, they're horrible looking, they look like they're made out of stone and they're horrible.
00:48:30.239 -->
00:48:32.719And be like, well, why are we talking to them then?
00:48:32.800 -->
00:48:35.039If like they're still stargoils.
00:48:35.280 -->
00:48:36.000What do you mean?
00:48:36.960 -->
00:48:37.599Like crazy.
00:48:37.679 -->
00:48:38.480She just made stuff up.
00:48:38.800 -->
00:48:44.719Well, a lot of it I'm now learning is a lot of it seemed to come from like David Ike and then all I don't know.
00:48:44.960 -->
00:48:52.000There's a lot of like weird pagan stuff that was getting drawn in, but she also thought pagans attracted demons and demonic spirits.
00:48:52.480 -->
00:48:58.559Honestly, props to your mom for even having a car though, because my mom made us walk everywhere and never got her license.
00:48:58.639 -->
00:48:59.840So fair enough.
00:48:59.920 -->
00:49:05.039If if if that if walking had been an option where we lived, that my mom would not have driven.
00:49:06.079 -->
00:49:10.000She wouldn't, she if if if that had been an option, that's what she would have opted for.
00:49:10.159 -->
00:49:14.320Because I mean, she she kind of made my brothers buy and my dad buy her cars.
00:49:14.400 -->
00:49:18.800I don't think she ever and then her friends gave her cars after they couldn't buy her cars anymore.
00:49:18.960 -->
00:49:23.920And yeah, no, she was but my mom was a bum in a lot of ways.
00:49:24.239 -->
00:49:26.880But she, you know, she was she was the savior.
00:49:27.119 -->
00:49:29.840So I guess we gotta give her credit for being the savior.
00:49:30.320 -->
00:49:35.840Apparently, saviors die alone in their houses, and the police have to kick in the windows to get them because that's that's how powerful.
00:49:36.320 -->
00:49:36.960Wait, what?
00:49:37.119 -->
00:49:38.880You have not told me this one.
00:49:39.119 -->
00:49:40.159What do you mean?
00:49:40.800 -->
00:49:42.719No, when my mom died, no one fucking knew.
00:49:42.880 -->
00:49:50.639I was the only one who realized it because she hadn't texted me in 12 hours, and so I was like frantically trying to get a hold of everybody, and no one had heard from her.
00:49:50.719 -->
00:49:58.320So my brother eventually called the police and asked for a welfare check, and they had to kick a window in to get into the house to get to her.
00:49:58.639 -->
00:49:58.880You know what?
00:49:58.960 -->
00:50:00.320That's what you get, your bitch.
00:50:00.480 -->
00:50:03.199You get to die alone in a crusty old board at home.
00:50:03.599 -->
00:50:05.360That's the that's the sign, man.
00:50:05.440 -->
00:50:08.159That's that's like the true the truth of her life.
00:50:08.320 -->
00:50:12.000The fact that no one even no one but me even realized she was fucking dead.
00:50:12.159 -->
00:50:13.679Like crazy, crazy, crazy.
00:50:13.760 -->
00:50:19.920But she was the savior annoying you with delusions of grandeur and and I'm talking to aliens.
00:50:20.159 -->
00:50:23.039Yeah, she was always the smartest person in the room, always.
00:50:23.199 -->
00:50:43.039I mean, we could have been in a room with a rocket scientist, and she would have told that rocket scientist like that she knew better than the rocket scientists, but at the same time, there was you could just tell it was also crippling, crippling insecurity because she knew for a fucking fact that she was not the smartest person in the room, and she would do nothing to validate it.
00:50:43.199 -->
00:50:45.679She was, you know, she had opportunities to go back to school.
00:50:45.840 -->
00:50:51.760There was a time in the 90s where she could have done it for fucking free as a non-traditional single mother kind of thing.
00:50:51.920 -->
00:50:57.440She could have gotten everything paid for and gone back and done whatever she wanted, couldn't be fucking bothered to do it.
00:50:57.599 -->
00:50:59.280She couldn't even be bothered to take care.
00:50:59.519 -->
00:51:03.920I mean, she ultimately died because of her diabetes that she was not managing appropriately.
00:51:04.800 -->
00:51:06.239She got the diabetes.
00:51:06.400 -->
00:51:12.880Yeah, she had a bunch of heart problems that she got again from not taking care of herself, taking care of her physical body.
00:51:13.519 -->
00:51:25.440She was she was she was sitting eat a box of fucking little Debbie's after she had been diagnosed with this like horrific diabetes, and they were like talking about taking her toes and stuff, and then she would go home and eat little Debbie's after she had her fucking shot.
00:51:26.159 -->
00:51:29.920Okay, I need to ask though, this is a total sidetrack question.
00:51:30.159 -->
00:51:37.280Why do people with diabetes end up having to get like their feet amputated and their limbs like okay, okay?
00:51:37.679 -->
00:51:38.960Or it affects the circulation.
00:51:39.119 -->
00:51:44.800Yeah, they basically the the blood just stops being able to pump all the way down to their feet and they get necrotic.
00:51:44.960 -->
00:52:09.760So she had like necrotic toes and stuff, and she was just like, No, I'm not gonna, and she she would inject herself, and she eventually got a pump sometime after I moved abroad, but she would like inject herself in the same place, but I think she also like was not cleaning herself very well, so like the spot where she was injecting herself on the stomach with her diabetic medication would get infected all the time, like a fucking heroin junkie.
00:52:10.159 -->
00:52:15.119Like you know, when you see people, yeah, with the infected injection sites, yeah.
00:52:15.360 -->
00:52:23.280Like that, like just just just my mother could have probably still been alive, she would have still been alive today if she had ever taken care of her body ever once.
00:52:23.360 -->
00:52:25.760She never did, she never ever took care of her body.
00:52:25.840 -->
00:52:31.920She did nothing, like she was working when she wasn't needed to, but she nah.
00:52:32.400 -->
00:52:32.800Nah.
00:52:33.119 -->
00:52:35.519So if anybody's ever like, what the fuck happened to you?
00:52:35.679 -->
00:52:37.039That's what the fuck happened to me.
00:52:37.199 -->
00:52:39.199And that's not even the adoption stories either.
00:52:39.280 -->
00:52:48.400Like that that doesn't even include like her dragging me down to Florida to go and see my birth mother who won't even stay in the same room with me, and like chasing her around and all that.
00:52:48.559 -->
00:52:56.800That that that woman was gonna leave me in the woods with a with a devout religious family who already had like eight kids that they did not allow to go to school.
00:52:57.119 -->
00:52:59.199This is why we're brain damage.
00:52:59.760 -->
00:53:02.079Bingo Bingo.
00:53:02.400 -->
00:53:17.440So my whole childhood, my brother would tell me, You're you were you were adopted, you were adopted, and my my mom would tell him to shut up, but she would never like defend or or like appease me in any kind of way, and I couldn't figure out why.
00:53:17.599 -->
00:53:35.519And then when I when I finally left living there and had to go live with my sperm donor, I mentioned in passing how my brother would say and this man just casually was like, Oh yeah, well, she did put you up for adoption, and I had to come and rescue you because you hadn't been held by her and you were like four days old.
00:53:35.840 -->
00:53:36.960Jesus Christ.
00:53:37.679 -->
00:53:38.960What in the fuck?
00:53:39.199 -->
00:53:40.159Jesus Christ.
00:53:40.800 -->
00:53:46.159She'd like gone on, was sectioned and put into hospital and then went into labor, put me up for adoption.
00:53:46.400 -->
00:53:52.719I was not held by like any kind of familial person for like four days of my life.
00:53:52.880 -->
00:54:01.440So like and it's there's like a like a chemical bond thing that happens in a baby in a mum's brain when they hold their baby for the first time.
00:54:01.599 -->
00:54:03.119Yeah, so I've never had that.
00:54:03.280 -->
00:54:08.159So I have to actively like that's great schedule hugging my children.
00:54:08.639 -->
00:54:09.119That's wonderful.
00:54:09.679 -->
00:54:11.840I I only have that bond with them.
00:54:12.000 -->
00:54:20.000I don't have the like every parent is magical, every parent is special and loves their children.
00:54:20.320 -->
00:54:22.000That's why we're brain damage.
00:54:22.320 -->
00:54:29.199Well, here's my favorite that I've heard a lot because they're the because we're going right right now, the therapy speak is now going right.
00:54:29.280 -->
00:54:31.679And so I've heard a lot of people, you'll hear like that, right?
00:54:31.760 -->
00:54:39.599Your mother didn't hold you for the first four days, and someone now be like, It's her first time being a human too, you know, it's her first time too.
00:54:39.760 -->
00:54:43.039Get fucked again, go to hell.
00:54:43.360 -->
00:54:46.559Go to hell, go to hell.
00:54:46.719 -->
00:54:47.920Oh my god, yeah.
00:54:48.159 -->
00:54:57.599So I so basically the two of us grew up with the sh the the stress of like a 30-year-old banker on Wall Street in the 80s.
00:54:57.920 -->
00:55:02.800So it's no wonder we ended up fried chunk.
00:55:08.960 -->
00:55:13.440I think to an extent, like uh I know that uh my stories are like wacky.
00:55:13.599 -->
00:55:21.119I do think to an extent every millennial in some way or form had this kind of stressful childhood, like the majority of us.
00:55:21.360 -->
00:55:22.480Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:55:22.639 -->
00:55:28.239You kids were being defend for themselves like 90% of the time.
00:55:28.480 -->
00:55:28.719Yeah.
00:55:29.360 -->
00:55:36.559And also just outside of the crazy stories, we had parents that were like used humiliate, like humiliation was the name of the game.
00:55:36.719 -->
00:55:42.400You were constantly ready for your parents to try to humiliate you actively, to shame you actively.
00:55:42.559 -->
00:55:44.880Like it's just high stress, man.
00:55:45.119 -->
00:55:47.599Absolutely high fucking stress.
00:55:48.239 -->
00:55:55.119You knew to keep yourself scarce when your parents were getting drunk because, like, if they wanted you to disappear from the room, they'd start talking about you.
00:55:55.280 -->
00:55:55.920So you'd just run.
00:55:56.079 -->
00:55:58.239Just stay out of the stay out of there.
00:55:58.480 -->
00:55:58.719Yeah.
00:55:58.880 -->
00:56:02.559I didn't have the drinking because my mom was like fucking crazy about that.
00:56:02.639 -->
00:56:05.039But it was the same, it was still, it's still somehow.
00:56:05.199 -->
00:56:06.159I wish she could see this.
00:56:06.239 -->
00:56:07.920I wish she was alive to see this.
00:56:08.159 -->
00:56:12.159She still somehow simulated that childhood in so many ways.
00:56:12.400 -->
00:56:13.360Because it was the same thing.
00:56:13.519 -->
00:56:17.199It was like when they were all together, you just stay awake or they're gonna start shit talking you.
00:56:17.360 -->
00:56:18.239Yeah, yeah.
00:56:18.480 -->
00:56:19.599Just keep away.
00:56:20.159 -->
00:56:20.800Keep away.
00:56:21.039 -->
00:56:21.920She's off for me.
00:56:22.079 -->
00:56:24.239It's step out of the room.
00:56:24.480 -->
00:56:25.119Yeah.
00:56:25.360 -->
00:56:29.280Meanwhile, my mom's got her meds in a cabinet and just pretends that they don't exist.
00:56:29.760 -->
00:56:30.559No, no, no, no.
00:56:30.639 -->
00:56:33.840I don't need to take those five tablets that a psychiatrist gave me.
00:56:34.000 -->
00:56:37.440What I need to do is talk to Jesus and the aliens.
00:56:37.760 -->
00:56:38.800That's how I knew.
00:56:39.280 -->
00:56:43.360I knew my life was gonna be upended was like all of the little blister packs.
00:56:43.440 -->
00:56:49.360Because my mom was so bad at taking her meds that they gave her like specific blister packs for each portion of the day.
00:56:49.519 -->
00:56:49.760Really?
00:56:50.000 -->
00:56:57.360And she she gets these big shakes and they're like you know, like you get those cute little things that you can divvy out your meds or whatever Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
00:56:57.679 -->
00:57:01.599She's got a 8 a.m., 12am, 12 p.m., 3 p.m.
00:57:01.920 -->
00:57:10.639like and it's like for every single day, and she gets a month of those blister packs at a time, and they're just what my mom needed.
00:57:11.119 -->
00:57:15.440And like the cupboard would just be full of them, they'd just be absolutely chalked to the brim.
00:57:15.599 -->
00:57:18.960And I'd be like, Oh, mom's not taking her meds again.
00:57:19.039 -->
00:57:19.519Oh my god.
00:57:19.599 -->
00:57:19.920Oh my god.
00:57:22.000 -->
00:57:24.880Yeah, we uh yeah, we had a family member that we had to sneak.
00:57:25.199 -->
00:57:27.280People I've had people get mad at me when I've told that story.
00:57:27.440 -->
00:57:28.480Like, that's disgusting.
00:57:28.559 -->
00:57:30.559I'm like, this person was gonna kill someone.
00:57:30.800 -->
00:57:39.199Like, we had some we had someone in the family had to sprinkle the medicine in the food sometimes because he like would not take the food, like he would not take the medicine and it was dangerous.
00:57:39.519 -->
00:57:45.280I don't want to do that to my mom because it was so terrifying just watching her go off her hands.
00:57:45.440 -->
00:57:47.599Yeah, oh yeah, it was and it was common as well.
00:57:47.760 -->
00:57:50.800Like that this person had physically assaulted people or threatened it.
00:57:51.119 -->
00:57:55.519You know how I know that like part of it was a choice by the by our parents specifically.
00:57:55.679 -->
00:58:10.079I don't know about other parents, is that like now as I get older and I meet people with the same conditions that my mom is diagnosed with and that your mom should have had diagnoses of, yeah, they don't stop taking their meds because they just feel better.
00:58:10.320 -->
00:58:20.880They have children to take care of, they have families to take care of, they have animals that they love dearly, and they keep taking their medication because they need it to be stable.
00:58:21.280 -->
00:58:23.599And that's just it just is what it is.
00:58:24.800 -->
00:58:25.679100% a choice.
00:58:25.760 -->
00:58:34.159And that again, my mom had access, she had really good health insurance through my dad, she had opportunity, she didn't want to do any of that because it's all ego.
00:58:34.239 -->
00:58:37.119They don't want to, they don't want to admit to that for some reason.
00:58:37.199 -->
00:58:40.880Because like if they had a broken arm, they would not shut up about it.
00:58:41.039 -->
00:58:41.599You know what I mean?
00:58:41.679 -->
00:58:49.440Like if my mom had broken her arm, she'd be like, Oh, my broken arm, you guys have to do everything for me, but a broken brain, she's like, Oh no, doesn't exist, doesn't exist.
00:58:49.679 -->
00:58:51.039We're just gonna pretend that didn't happen.
00:58:51.119 -->
00:58:52.079I'm actually God.
00:58:53.119 -->
00:58:54.480Fucking wild.
00:58:55.039 -->
00:58:56.800The the the service to the ego.
00:58:56.960 -->
00:58:58.719It's just you can't do that when you're a parent.
00:58:59.039 -->
00:59:05.039Childhood trauma and and the injury that it causes to the brain is permanent, like that's a permanent trauma.
00:59:05.440 -->
00:59:08.880Yeah, like my brain will never function the way it should.
00:59:09.280 -->
00:59:15.119Yeah, and in the country I'm in, you can get like so my country's a bit better than America.
00:59:15.280 -->
00:59:16.079Sorry, America.
00:59:16.239 -->
00:59:34.559Yeah, and we have like nationwide like insurance-y type thing, it's called ACC, and essentially you can make claims when you have injuries and they pay for everything, or at least up to 80%, and you can claim for childhood trauma and like a brain injury from that.
00:59:34.719 -->
00:59:48.159And they like uh it's a bit of an arduous wee process, but you can get like support and help through them to like be able to be essentially compensated for the fact that your parents were shit cans.
00:59:48.719 -->
00:59:52.639I man, I'm telling you, I think everybody's like, Well, how do we make parents better?
00:59:52.719 -->
00:59:53.840How do we make parents better?
00:59:54.159 -->
00:59:56.320Let us sue them as adults.
00:59:56.400 -->
00:59:59.679I'm like, let us, if you can prove that your parent like traumatized.
01:00:00.239 -->
01:00:06.800You in these insane ways, you should be able to sue the shit out of them, and they have to pay you tons of money for the rest of your fucking life.
01:00:06.880 -->
01:00:09.199And I bet you that would scare the hell out of some people.
01:00:09.360 -->
01:00:12.079Be like, Well, I'm not shitting out a kid because I'm for sure gonna hit it.
01:00:12.159 -->
01:00:13.039No, absolutely not.
01:00:13.119 -->
01:00:17.199I'm not paying 10 grand a month for the rest of my life when that thing's 18 to 90.
01:00:17.280 -->
01:00:17.599Nah.
01:00:17.760 -->
01:00:26.719No, because I remember when the laws here changed, and you're not you're like, it's legally against the law now to not be able to hit your children here.
01:00:26.960 -->
01:00:32.800And that happened when I was like eight, I think, like quite young, but like cognizant enough to remember.
01:00:32.960 -->
01:00:38.159And I remember how mad all the adults were that they couldn't hit their kids anymore.
01:00:38.320 -->
01:00:38.639Yep.
01:00:38.800 -->
01:00:44.239And I'm like, I as an adult have children, and I'm like, I could never hit my kids.
01:00:44.400 -->
01:00:49.039Yeah, the idea of doing that makes me like literally want to bowl my eyes out.
01:00:49.199 -->
01:00:50.960Like, why would I want to hit a child?
01:00:52.320 -->
01:00:53.760At the school, like where I grew up.
01:00:53.920 -->
01:00:54.719That's crazy, man.
01:00:54.960 -->
01:01:03.119Well, I was 17, 18 years old, and I still had to bring in a permission slip signed by a parent saying whether or not I was allowed to be paddled at 17, 18 years old.
01:01:03.280 -->
01:01:03.519Wow.
01:01:03.840 -->
01:01:04.800They still do that.
01:01:05.039 -->
01:01:07.440It's they love that where I grow up, grew up.
01:01:07.760 -->
01:01:21.679It's just like that their Christian and Catholicist culture has demonized sexuality so much that they have to pervert any kind of discipline because they can't go like be kinky.
01:01:22.639 -->
01:01:25.360It's just uh it's very, very, very, very twisted.
01:01:27.519 -->
01:01:29.199But yeah, this is why we're brain damaged.
01:01:29.360 -->
01:01:30.000This is what's happened.
01:01:30.639 -->
01:01:31.679This is where it's come from.
01:01:31.840 -->
01:01:33.920I think that'll explain a lot about me.
01:01:34.159 -->
01:01:57.840High stress, high stress childhoods, and that is ultimately what causes, you know, so many nervous system problems later on in life because you encounter this, your little child's brain, which is developing, all those little neurons and synapses are like, ah, and like frantically trying to connect themselves and readjust, and when they are trying to process information that they don't even have the cognitive skill to process yet.
01:01:58.079 -->
01:02:01.920So uh it messes up the wiring, messes up the wiring.
01:02:02.400 -->
01:02:15.679I um I did this course and it uh watched this uh little like informational video and it was explaining how like these children in this high stress situation were being visited by the police and a social worker and a psychologist, blah blah blah.
01:02:15.920 -->
01:02:16.800There's three kids.
01:02:16.880 -->
01:02:24.639There's a little girl who's sitting in the room of the incident that happened, there's food everywhere, all over the walls, everything's tipped up, and she's blaming herself, right?
01:02:24.880 -->
01:02:34.079Then there's a little boy sitting in front of the TV and he's dissociated, and then there's a seven-month-old baby in the crib, and the baby's like crying, but like not super unsettled, right?
01:02:34.320 -->
01:02:42.800And it wasn't until seven years later because they followed this family through their life to to see how the trauma impacted the children.
01:02:43.280 -->
01:02:52.000And the the girl and the son weren't as impacted as the seven-month-old baby that had to hear it all and couldn't do anything.
01:02:52.400 -->
01:02:52.880Oh my god.
01:02:53.119 -->
01:03:01.599By the time this the seven-month-old baby was like seven years old, it was aggressively fighting children at school anytime any inconvenience happened.
01:03:02.079 -->
01:03:07.039Powerless because it grew up and that's the basically the the baseline got established in powerlessness.
01:03:07.119 -->
01:03:08.239That's horrific.
01:03:09.519 -->
01:03:15.119And that's that's the impact of just hearing a traumatic situation for a baby.
01:03:15.440 -->
01:03:15.679Yeah.
01:03:16.000 -->
01:03:16.159Yeah.
01:03:16.320 -->
01:03:18.639And our parents were like, hey, here's some some trauma.
01:03:18.719 -->
01:03:21.840Why don't you jump right on into the middle of it here with me and come along with it?
01:03:22.239 -->
01:03:32.320My mom would she'd go off for meds and she'd be like walking up and down the hallway having conversations with people that were like towns over, just like yelling and mad about it.
01:03:33.599 -->
01:03:35.599I think that's what was going on with my mom.
01:03:35.760 -->
01:03:36.480I really do.
01:03:36.639 -->
01:03:37.280I really do.
01:03:37.360 -->
01:03:39.440The older I get, that's what I think was going on.
01:03:39.599 -->
01:03:39.840Yeah.
01:03:40.079 -->
01:03:40.480I do.
01:03:40.880 -->
01:03:42.480The similarities between our mums.
01:03:42.639 -->
01:03:43.760I I'm dead sure.
01:03:43.920 -->
01:03:46.159Like it's it's pretty, it's pretty out there.
01:03:46.559 -->
01:03:48.480Oh man, I that had to be.
01:03:48.639 -->
01:03:49.280That had to be.
01:03:49.440 -->
01:03:56.000I know like they they've mentioned dementia in my family before, but I don't think it was dementia because she was not like going through memories of things that happened.
01:03:56.159 -->
01:03:58.719She was talking to people that fully were not there.
01:03:59.039 -->
01:04:02.639And some some of them had never been there for her ever, ever.
01:04:02.880 -->
01:04:04.800They were not they were not real things.
01:04:05.039 -->
01:04:06.320So God.
01:04:06.800 -->
01:04:08.079Everything explained.
01:04:08.239 -->
01:04:09.679Everything explained.
01:04:10.239 -->
01:04:12.960Well, this is why we're brain damage.
01:04:13.519 -->
01:04:15.440Yes, yes, yes.
01:04:15.679 -->
01:04:18.800That is gonna be our episode for this week.
01:04:19.039 -->
01:04:21.280Hopefully that has enlightened you a little bit.
01:04:21.599 -->
01:04:32.079I would love to hear uh your crazy childhood trauma stories or your crazy, you know, your drama, or like your crazy millennial stories.
01:04:32.239 -->
01:04:37.519Did you have a mom that was talking to aliens or having you draw pictures of people's spirit guides?
01:04:37.679 -->
01:04:43.119I would love to connect if any of you had similar childhood experiences.
01:04:43.440 -->
01:04:49.599Or maybe your dad was like shooting off fireworks and set the neighborhood on fire on the 4th of July or something, you know, whatever it was.
01:04:50.400 -->
01:04:54.960What was the clingsha moment that that was like, yep, I'm not talking to my parents ever again.
01:04:55.119 -->
01:04:55.679Fuck them.
01:04:55.920 -->
01:04:57.679Yes, yes, we want to hear those stories.
01:04:57.760 -->
01:04:59.920So share those stories with us in the comments.
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01:05:11.679 -->
01:05:14.000The best ones might get shared in a future episode.
01:05:14.079 -->
01:05:15.360We'll read a couple of them.
01:05:15.519 -->
01:05:17.440Um, so yeah, let us know.
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