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Welcome to Now You Know BC.
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I'm Bob Cronbauer, also known as BC Bob, and on
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this show I introduce you to interesting people, places to go,
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things to see, things that have happened in the past.
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You will hear our collective stories.
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And this week I'm talking about baseball nostalgia in BC
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because nothing goes better with baseball than nostalgia.
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I mean, a hot.
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Dog goes really well with every baseball game that I
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go to, and I go to at least thirty games
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a year.
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But you know, so much of baseball is nostalgia. So
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let's dig in.
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Do you know that the baseball team that plays at
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sar Roxxman Stadium in Nanaimo, the Nanaimo night Owls, sometimes
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plays as the Nanaimo Nanaimo Bars.
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It's true.
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The night Owls play in the West Coast League, which
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is made up of seventeen teams that play premier collegiate
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ball up and down the West Coast in Canada and
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in the US and being a college ball team means
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that in the summer, when players are playing for college
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teams and their school year, and players who are hoping
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to join a college team one day, they get onto
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teams like this one so that they can play through
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the entire summer. Unlike the Vancouver Canadians who play from
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April until October, the teams in the WCL play a
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short season of just two months June and July. Then
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most of them go back to school, or they move
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up into the minor leagues, or they go elsewhere. In BC,
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there's more than one West Coast League team that you
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can go and watch. Aside from the night Owls, there's
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also the Victoria Harborcats, the Kamloops North Pause, and the
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Cologna Falcons, and tickets go from ten to twenty five bucks.
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It's an incredible time.
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As for the Nanaimo Nanaimo Bars, yes, the real team
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is actually the night Owls. They played their first game
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in twenty twenty one and their name pays tribute to
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this Nanaimo First Nation tradition. It also recognizes a local
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team from the nineteen twenties called the Owls that won
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the championship or a few one hundred years earlier. The
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team plays in their alternate jerseys when they played day games,
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and of course they do this in honor of Canada's
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most famous dessert, the Nanaimo Bar. When they announced the team,
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they asked people in the community what they thought the
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alternate jerseys should be, and they got over one hundred
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and twenty submissions.
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The front runners were the coal.
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Miners, which was a part of the big history of Nanaimo,
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the Bars, the Islanders, and the Nanaimo Pirates in honor
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of a man named Frank Nay who was the pirate
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mayor of Nanaimo for many years.
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He dressed like a pirate in public.
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That's another story for another time, and I don't know
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if that mayor enjoyed baseball or not.
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But the team landed on the.
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Nanaimo Bars as their alternate, which seems like the best choice.
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If you're gonna be in Nanaimo, Victoria, Colowna, or Kamloops
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in the summer, pay twenty five bucks and attend.
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One of these WCL games.
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There are a ton of fun and the level of
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ball is a lot higher than you might think. Many
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of the players on these teams have gone on to
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play in the major leagues. And now you know we're
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going to break and when we get back, we're going
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to talk to us. Tyler Zikel from the Vancouver Canadians.
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Welcome back to the show.
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My guest today is the voice of baseball in Vancouver.
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His name is Tyler Zikel.
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He works for the Vancouver Canadians, technically the Toronto Blue Jays.
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He's a good friend of mine, he's a good friend
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of everybody. Thank you for joining me, Tyler.
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Bob so great to be here.
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Anytime I get to join you in studio, hang out
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with your garbage gobbler, I am just feeling great.
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Thanks thanks for that.
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Yeah, absolutely, Tyler and I do tours together.
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You and I do tours together at the stadium. Maybe
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we'll do a couple this.
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Year where we talk about the history of the place
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of nat Bailey Stadium where the Canadians play.
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It's the seventy fifth anniversary.
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What's going on, well, early plug, if you were like
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to join us on a tour or join us at
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the ballpark, certainly a great time to come out. Seventy
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five years at historic nat Bailey Stadium. Of course, Capilano
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Stadium when it opened in nineteen fifty one, a couple
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of seasons without baseball there, and then since the PCL
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Canadians took hold in the seventies, we've been playing baseball
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in the corner of Ontario and thirtieth every season ever since,
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and no better time to come out too. Not only
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is it the classic park in North America Minor League,
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major League for my estimation, it's also the start of
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a new era with some new construction down the first baseline,
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a team area on the first floor, but a fan
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rooftop patio that opens June first. So so much to
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be excited for.
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There.
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RAI is one home for baseball in Vancouver, one place
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where generations of fans have gathered to share moments and
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create memories under the warm blow of the summertime. Sung
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this year, that beloved home for baseball turned seventy five
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years young. First it was the Capilanos who took to
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the field in nineteen fifty one, followed by the Mounties
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and eventually three different eras of Canadians. We celebrated division titles,
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multiple league championships, and countless players who passed on through
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towards the bright lights of the major leagues. We watched,
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we cheered, we ate, drank, and lacked all in our
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home for professional baseball here in Vancouver, one home known
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by US locals affectionately as the NAT. This year, come
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home and celebrate seventy five years of memories out at
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nat Bailey Stadium opening day these April seven.
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I almost forgot about that.
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I'm just thinking about the baseball and how excited I
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am to be back in the stadium. But there's that
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whole new section where there used to be all the umbrellas,
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and now there's a bar there that everybody can go to.
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Is that right, the bar that you can just go into,
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and then there's ticketed seats up top exactly.
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So once that opens up on June first, every fan
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who has a ticket to a game at the NET
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will have access to that bar and rooftop patio area.
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And yes, groups and businesses and special occasions can rent
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out those various private spots and continue to take in
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a game. But truly a brand new view that fans
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have never seen before. And well, in its seventy five years,
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the ballpark has seen so many different iterations with the
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hey All porch and left field originally installed in twenty fifteen,
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and some other bleachers that have come and gone. It's
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just a great opportunity to continue the legacy of the
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neat and at the Canadians, we view ourselves as the
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stewards of historic that Bailey Stadium. It is a true
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Vancouver and Canadian landmark. And so this is just starting
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off that next era for the next seventy five years
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and beyond.
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About view, there's one of the ushers there, Joanne. She
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told me about how she's been there for so long,
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but she used to watch games there, and you used
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to be able to. There were like less trees and
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stuff on the park side, and people would gather up
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there and watch games. I have a friend that used
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to when you say, that's a new view from that
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view over on that side, I have a friend that
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goes up onto the stairs at the community center next
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door sometimes and peaks at super Baseball fan. You don't
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have to be a baseball fan to love a C's game.
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Oh, you're absolutely right.
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And hey, don't tell me that friend's name, because then
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I'm gonna have to start charging them for standing room
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only tickets. But that's just one of the many wonderful
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things about the GNAT and about the Canadians. It's decades
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generations of fans grandparents or great grandparents, and now their
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great grandkids are coming to games. For three seasons, we
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had a guy who was coming out to games as
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a kid, Brent la Valley from North Felt to b C,
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who was our managers. So that's just one small example
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of just how integral the GNAT has been to not
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just professional baseball in Vancouver, but just the entire community
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connection of the entire Lower Mainland in the province, the
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geographic center of Vancouver, and that Bailey Stadium.
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Is the spot.
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You guys have been next level with the giveaways of
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the last couple of seasons. There's two of them that
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are on the set here, Desan Brown and Addison Barger.
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Is that Addison Barger.
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Davis Schneider right there, but you see that's kind of
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wearying the lead. Addison Barger's coming this year and so
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is Treya Savage. So two bobbleheads this year for fans
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to get their hands on. Addison Barger, who of course
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had a great postseason for the Blue Jays in the
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deep run, and Treya Savage, I don't think there's any
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baseball fan in Canada who does not know Trey's name
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these days. And so he's been immortalized in bibblehead form
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as well. And fun Little Feather in our cap were
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the first team Trays ever played for to do a
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bobblehead at least in his pro career. And so to
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get your hands on that, you can buy a bibblehead
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package that secures you those two and you also tickets
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to the game. That is a great way to add
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to your bibble collection.
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What day is that? When happened? You know on the spot.
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So this is actually both in the second half sech
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our schedule at Canadians Baseball dot com, I'm doing my
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pregame prep or my preseason prep. As the broadcaster, I
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gotta start to memorize these promotion dates.
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Well yeah, no kidding, what other promotions are going on.
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It's all sort of nostal not also nostalgic, but it's
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a nostalgia.
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It's the seventy fifth anniversary season long celebration. Every Tuesday
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at the night we're going to celebrate the history of
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the ballpark. There's five different pennant giveaways honoring the five
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different eras at the ballpark, going back to the Capilanos
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and the Mounties all the way up to the current Canadians.
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We've got a mini Nap Bailey Stadium replica giveaway that
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can sit nicely on anybody's desk for their bookshelf. Tons
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of giveaways for kids as well. Postgame kids run the
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bases on Sunday's nooners on Fridays of course thanks to
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Ford to s PC and Saturdays in the first three
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months of the season are at one oh five like
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they have been. But now after the calendar flips to July,
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Saturday night games are going to be at five oh five,
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So you come to the net then you can go
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on and have the rest of your night somewhere else
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in our great sales.
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Oh that's awesome.
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Yeah, something I'm excited about. I'm excited about all of it.
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But the hay Yall Porch is coming back. There was
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a they used to be just a home run fence,
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and then I believe in twenty eleven they took down
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the fence, added a new seating section and it was
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funded by Hey y'all drinks, and then it was not
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hay y'all for a while, but hey y'all is back.
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Hey y'all is back.
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You were the first person I thought of, Bob when
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I had heard the news. It was the Hey y'all Porch,
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Then it became the Neutral Zone, and now it's the
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Hey y'all Porch once again, which for all of us
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over at the NAT feels right. The Hey y'all Porch
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just really is a special part of what we do
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over there, and just another great example of not just
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a great place to watch the game, but one of
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the many options fans can enjoy both food and beverage wise,
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all sorts of beers and urtds, great food.
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You know, the yard dog.
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We got the yard Nachos coming out this year, three
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foot long box of nachos to go with your yard dog.
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And of course the Triple O's stand. It was just
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over at the ballpark. It's nearly finished. Triple O's. Like
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that great video we did on your Instagram, Berger's Fries, Shakes, Chicken,
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It's going to be a blast, milkshakes.
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I might have to mix it up because I'm a
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creature of habit I go to the game, I get
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a diet PEPSI I get a foot long hot dog,
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and then I'll get an ice cream cone sometime in
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like the fifth or the sixth inning might have to
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go with a milkshake instead of a ice cream and Bob.
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If this keeps going as it's going, we may have
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to name the milkshake after you, maybe for twenty twenty seven.
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But I implore you to get out of your routine. Taste
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that triple os. Maybe bring you a yard notacho at
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your seat as well, and see how deep you can
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get on that three feet of chips and cheese.
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Awesome. Thank you for your time, Tyler.
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When we come back, Nina is going to be talking
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to people about what they like on their hot dog.
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And for the record, the only correct way to dress
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your hot dog is with fresh onions and mustard.
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Welcome back to the show.
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Nina is out on the street talking to people about
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something that is incredibly important. It's what they like to
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have on their hot dogs. Nina.
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I'm Nina Savage and this is street Survey today. We're
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out on the streets getting your hot dog hot takes.
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So what's your go to hot dog?
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Order?
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A little bit weird. I like mayo on my hot dog.
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Like mayo green olives, onions, ketchup and mustard, ketchup E
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ketchup mustard, ketchup, mustard relish and onions, hello, paniols. Whatever
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you got, I just keep it simple. I got a
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beat dog and I just put ketchup on that. So
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what toppings did you get?
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I get the caramelized onions, cheese, Barbero sauce, valancina and
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meal and banana peppers.
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Just the plain frankfurter with a brown bun with testam
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seats on it. Just mustard, onions and ketchup and.
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A little butter.
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Okay, obviously the hot dog, the weaner and the bread
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and then ketchup, mustard relish and hopefully the bread is
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also like.
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Toasted or warm in some way. And I feel like
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that's my not to What does a hot dog seem
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like in Nanaimo compared to Vancouver? Not as hot, right,
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and not as dog? It's not as good. You need
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the island to ketchup, step up island and.
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You run five thirty year in BC Vancouver.
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Do you have any hot dog hot takes for the
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people watching? I guess the question that is a hot dog?
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What is it?
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Is it a sandwich?
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Or what is that.
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What is that?
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Is it a sandwich or a taco?
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Yeah? Is it a sandwich?
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It's a hot dog, a sandwich or a taco. And
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what is your consensus? I think it would be more
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of a taco. And so what's it like running a
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hot dog stand in Vancouver?
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It's good business. Very soon pefI is coming. I hope
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you're busy, but so far okay, no problem, make money,
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We make money and fin And what do.
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You think doesn't belong on a hot dog?
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I would say everything else, like the what is it
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called the green stuff they put on you raish?
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No? Is there anything that you think does not belong
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on a hot dog?
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Oh?
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I don't like spice, so probably not. The banana peppers?
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Is that what they're called.
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I think a hot dog can be whatever you want
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it to be, as long as it tastes good to you.
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Do you think you could eat a three foot long
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hot dog?
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No? Way?
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Put together? We can do it today, we can maybe
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do it. Do you like hot dogs?
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Yes?
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And what's like the perfect time for a hot dog?
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We have baseball any time, anytime. But camping is the best. Yeah,
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camping is the best for a hot dog and a
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soccer game. That's a yeah, like any sports event.
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Do you have a favorite place in Vancouver or BC
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or the world to get a hot dog?
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Home?
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Homemade hot dogs?
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You know, having like a really a good quality waner,
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maybe from from a local butcher or something, and then
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then getting all the condiments on your own.
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You know, homemade's good.
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Yeah.
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What has changed over the years this year?
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After? Everybody's slow, especially right now you're single timing, but
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you okay if you surviving?
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Hi guys, Hey, how you.
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Doing number one number one channel?
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You're wondering my hot dog order? Just a regular dog,
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sauteed onions, mustard, ketchup relish. I'll take everything, So it's
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time for me to get a hot dog. This is
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Street Survey and I'm Nina Savage.
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We're going on a b C road trip to Black
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Creek and if you can tell me exactly where that is,
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you're probably from Vancouver Island. This tiny little community is
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between Como's and Camel River on the Old Island Highway
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and was actually once supposed to be the home to
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a baseball stadium the size of Fenway in Boston, and
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that was partly thanks to a former major leaguer named
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Bill the Spaceman Lee, what did.
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You Maybe you could do it again? Yeah, well I
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usually don't.
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I'm not in a person of habit so much so
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that I just had a lot of pancakes for the
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ball game in the morning, and then I went out
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and had a beer and a steak and.
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Go get them anything special on those pancakes. No maple syrup.
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They got good syrup around here.
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They sure do this.
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This is maple syrup country.
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Now.
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Lee was a fixture in this little community for decades,
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and according to Jack Knox and The Times, calling this newspaper,
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he liked to hang out at a place called the
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Fisherman's Lodge pub.
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A friend of his named Andrew.
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Andrewsoff lived in Black Creek and had a fifty acre
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farm where he raised a fallow deer and had a
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private nine hole golf course that he and his friends
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would play on. He was working on a business plan
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for investors in a huge baseball stadium on his land,
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and the Spaceman said that he'd pitch in by doing
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baseball camps and to help people get more interested in
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the sport. But the investors never came, and this stadium
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project is now just a fuzzy memory twenty years later.
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You're not going to find much mention of it on
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the internet, but ask around Black Creek you'll hear more.
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There's a going concern right now that might make you
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want to visit this place.
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It's happening now.
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It's called Breakers Resort and it's right on the beach
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in Black Creek. It has eleven different cabins that you
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can rent with friends. It's family owned and operated. It
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keeps a fairly low profile, and it's one of those
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spots that you would usually only hear about through family
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and friends, and then you keep going back year after year,
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like an old ballpark. If you're into fishing, the Oyster
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River is just a quick jount down the beach, or
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there's charters that operate out of the nearby marinas that
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you could walk to. And not far away is Coastal
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Black Winery and Sidary, which not only makes great quality
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drinks for adults, but has lots of seasonal events for
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all ages on their farm. There's no baseball in this
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community to speak of to go and watch, but they
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do have the internet here in Black Creek relation two
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thousand ish, so you could stream the Jay's game or
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whichever team you follow while you're relaxing on the porch
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of your cabin or sitting in front of the fire pit.
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Build a spaceman.
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Lee is now seventy nine years old, and I'm not
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sure if he spent time on the island recently, but
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if they build it, I bet he would come back. Now,
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get out there and enjoy your BC road trip. This
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piece of history is probably supported by the Museum of Vancouver.
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Vancouver's story begins here. We're back at the Museum of
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Vancouver talking about baseball and things affiliated with baseball and
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somebody very important to baseball in this city. Usually we
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are in the collection storage in the basement of this building.
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But today where are we Ryan?
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We are in the nineteen fifties gallery of our Vancouver
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Stories gallery.
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Okay, and who are we talking about it? What are
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we talking about? Talking about Nat Bailey?
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While he wasn't born in BC, he is a BC
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success story and made a huge connection to Vancouver and
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the sport of baseball exactly.
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The stadium Nat Bailey Stadium is seventy five years old
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this year. It was named after him in the nineteen seventies,
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it was originally made in the nineteen fifties. They renamed
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it because he was such an integral part to supporting
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baseball and supporting that particular stadium.
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And that team. Was he an owner of one of
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the teams?
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Yeah, So Nat Bailey was a co owner of a
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minor league team called the Vancouver Mounties. And fun fact
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about the name Vancouver Mounties. Before the Vancouver Grizzlies basketball
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team became the Vancouver Grizzlies, they were planned to be
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the Vancouver Mounties, but there was some concern from the
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RCMP that they didn't have the copyright to use that name,
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and as a result, it became the Grizzlies.
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Awesome.
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So Nat Bailey obviously the founder of White Spot.
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What have we got on the collection here?
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Yeah, So the first White Spot was opened in nineteen
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twenty eight and by nineteen fifty five they were reaching
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over one hundred thousand customers a year.
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At the one location across they franchised that, oh gotcha,
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And it was.
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Canada's first car hop based restaurant. And some of these
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restaurants are from that era. Some of these, for example,
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and what you'd do is you'd pull up, you'd turn
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on your lights to let the servers know that you're ready.
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They'd come, they'd take your order and they'd leave these
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cards on your windshield to let people know what you'd ordered.
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Then they'd bring a big green tray, look it over
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your wind window and yeah, you'd be dining outside of
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your car.
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I think lots of people don't realize that this is
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a made INBC business. There are triple os in other provinces,
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but there are no white spots west of the Rockies.
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There are some triple os in Ontario, but it's it's
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primarily a.
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British Columbia thing.
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And the best thing I will say this, you and
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I talked about this off camera. The best thing although
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I get what is in this menu from the eighties?
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Oh no, this other one. There's another menu here. I
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get the same thing that's in this menu. It is
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a burger with a milkshake. And that's what I get
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every single time. And you know what it comes with.
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It comes with the world's best cole slaw. And the
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reason why it's the world's best coalslaw is because A
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it's fantastic. B it has sunflower seeds in it. And
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if they ever decide to cheap out. This is my
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message directly to White Spot. If you ever take the
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sunflower seeds out of the coalslaw, we will riot me
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and Ryan he said he likes it off camera.
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He likes to makes it difference.
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Yes, anyways, we got some other stuff here. Yeah.
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So, in addition to being known for White Spot, nat
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Bailey had a number of different businesses and initiatives, and
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one of them is shown in the sugar packet here
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from the nat Bailey Villa. So Neat Bailey started a
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hotel chain in the nineteen sixties that had three locations, Vancouver,
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Burnaby and Nanaimo. And here we have a wrapped sugar
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packet from nat Bailey Villa and also from White Spot.
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Those are really cool, the cubes, the sugar cubes. They
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don't really make those anymore.
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Do they not like that?
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I mean it's probably pretty waste intensive to wrap two
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sugar cubes.
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True, Yes, that's true. Okay.
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Anyways, Vancouver's story begins here at the museum. You should
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come and visit. There are all kinds of things. Usually,
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like I said, we're in the basement.
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This place. You can actually come to and check.
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Out all of the cool, incredible stories of Vancouver.
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That's the show for this week.
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Big thanks to Tyler Zickel and the Vancouver Canadians, Jim
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Swanson from the Harborcats and the night Owls. Build a space, Manlee,
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sure throw them in there. And my good friend Jason Donaldson,
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who I go to baseball games with all the time.
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Show director Derek Wong, Roving reporter Nina Savage, editor are
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of and everybody at employee owned Check Media. You can
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And of course I will see you here on Check
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I'm Bob Cronbauer, also known as BC Bob, and on
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this show I introduce you to interesting people, places to go,
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You will hear our collective stories.
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And this week I'm talking about baseball nostalgia in BC
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because nothing goes better with baseball than nostalgia.
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I mean, a hot.
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Dog goes really well with every baseball game that I
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go to, and I go to at least thirty games
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a year.
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But you know, so much of baseball is nostalgia. So
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let's dig in.
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Do you know that the baseball team that plays at
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sar Roxxman Stadium in Nanaimo, the Nanaimo night Owls, sometimes
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plays as the Nanaimo Nanaimo Bars.
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It's true.
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The night Owls play in the West Coast League, which
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is made up of seventeen teams that play premier collegiate
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ball up and down the West Coast in Canada and
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in the US and being a college ball team means
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that in the summer, when players are playing for college
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teams and their school year, and players who are hoping
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to join a college team one day, they get onto
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teams like this one so that they can play through
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the entire summer. Unlike the Vancouver Canadians who play from
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April until October, the teams in the WCL play a
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short season of just two months June and July. Then
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most of them go back to school, or they move
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up into the minor leagues, or they go elsewhere. In BC,
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there's more than one West Coast League team that you
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can go and watch. Aside from the night Owls, there's
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also the Victoria Harborcats, the Kamloops North Pause, and the
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Cologna Falcons, and tickets go from ten to twenty five bucks.
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It's an incredible time.
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As for the Nanaimo Nanaimo Bars, yes, the real team
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is actually the night Owls. They played their first game
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in twenty twenty one and their name pays tribute to
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this Nanaimo First Nation tradition. It also recognizes a local
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team from the nineteen twenties called the Owls that won
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the championship or a few one hundred years earlier. The
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team plays in their alternate jerseys when they played day games,
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and of course they do this in honor of Canada's
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most famous dessert, the Nanaimo Bar. When they announced the team,
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they asked people in the community what they thought the
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alternate jerseys should be, and they got over one hundred
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and twenty submissions.
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The front runners were the coal.
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Miners, which was a part of the big history of Nanaimo,
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the Bars, the Islanders, and the Nanaimo Pirates in honor
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of a man named Frank Nay who was the pirate
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mayor of Nanaimo for many years.
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He dressed like a pirate in public.
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if that mayor enjoyed baseball or not.
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But the team landed on the.
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Nanaimo Bars as their alternate, which seems like the best choice.
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If you're gonna be in Nanaimo, Victoria, Colowna, or Kamloops
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in the summer, pay twenty five bucks and attend.
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One of these WCL games.
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There are a ton of fun and the level of
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ball is a lot higher than you might think. Many
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of the players on these teams have gone on to
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play in the major leagues. And now you know we're
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going to break and when we get back, we're going
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to talk to us. Tyler Zikel from the Vancouver Canadians.
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Welcome back to the show.
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My guest today is the voice of baseball in Vancouver.
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His name is Tyler Zikel.
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He works for the Vancouver Canadians, technically the Toronto Blue Jays.
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He's a good friend of mine, he's a good friend
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of everybody. Thank you for joining me, Tyler.
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Bob so great to be here.
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Anytime I get to join you in studio, hang out
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with your garbage gobbler, I am just feeling great.
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Thanks thanks for that.
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Yeah, absolutely, Tyler and I do tours together.
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You and I do tours together at the stadium. Maybe
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Year where we talk about the history of the place
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of nat Bailey Stadium where the Canadians play.
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It's the seventy fifth anniversary.
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What's going on, well, early plug, if you were like
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to join us on a tour or join us at
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the ballpark, certainly a great time to come out. Seventy
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five years at historic nat Bailey Stadium. Of course, Capilano
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Stadium when it opened in nineteen fifty one, a couple
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of seasons without baseball there, and then since the PCL
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Canadians took hold in the seventies, we've been playing baseball
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in the corner of Ontario and thirtieth every season ever since,
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and no better time to come out too. Not only
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is it the classic park in North America Minor League,
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major League for my estimation, it's also the start of
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a new era with some new construction down the first baseline,
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a team area on the first floor, but a fan
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rooftop patio that opens June first. So so much to
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be excited for.
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RAI is one home for baseball in Vancouver, one place
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where generations of fans have gathered to share moments and
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create memories under the warm blow of the summertime. Sung
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this year, that beloved home for baseball turned seventy five
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years young. First it was the Capilanos who took to
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the field in nineteen fifty one, followed by the Mounties
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and eventually three different eras of Canadians. We celebrated division titles,
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multiple league championships, and countless players who passed on through
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towards the bright lights of the major leagues. We watched,
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we cheered, we ate, drank, and lacked all in our
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home for professional baseball here in Vancouver, one home known
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by US locals affectionately as the NAT. This year, come
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home and celebrate seventy five years of memories out at
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nat Bailey Stadium opening day these April seven.
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I almost forgot about that.
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I'm just thinking about the baseball and how excited I
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am to be back in the stadium. But there's that
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whole new section where there used to be all the umbrellas,
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and now there's a bar there that everybody can go to.
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Is that right, the bar that you can just go into,
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and then there's ticketed seats up top exactly.
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who has a ticket to a game at the NET
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will have access to that bar and rooftop patio area.
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And yes, groups and businesses and special occasions can rent
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out those various private spots and continue to take in
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a game. But truly a brand new view that fans
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have never seen before. And well, in its seventy five years,
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the ballpark has seen so many different iterations with the
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hey All porch and left field originally installed in twenty fifteen,
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and some other bleachers that have come and gone. It's
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just a great opportunity to continue the legacy of the
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neat and at the Canadians, we view ourselves as the
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stewards of historic that Bailey Stadium. It is a true
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Vancouver and Canadian landmark. And so this is just starting
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off that next era for the next seventy five years
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and beyond.
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About view, there's one of the ushers there, Joanne. She
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told me about how she's been there for so long,
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but she used to watch games there, and you used
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to be able to. There were like less trees and
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stuff on the park side, and people would gather up
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there and watch games. I have a friend that used
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to when you say, that's a new view from that
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view over on that side, I have a friend that
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goes up onto the stairs at the community center next
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door sometimes and peaks at super Baseball fan. You don't
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have to be a baseball fan to love a C's game.
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Oh, you're absolutely right.
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And hey, don't tell me that friend's name, because then
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I'm gonna have to start charging them for standing room
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only tickets. But that's just one of the many wonderful
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things about the GNAT and about the Canadians. It's decades
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generations of fans grandparents or great grandparents, and now their
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great grandkids are coming to games. For three seasons, we
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had a guy who was coming out to games as
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a kid, Brent la Valley from North Felt to b C,
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who was our managers. So that's just one small example
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of just how integral the GNAT has been to not
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just professional baseball in Vancouver, but just the entire community
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connection of the entire Lower Mainland in the province, the
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geographic center of Vancouver, and that Bailey Stadium.
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Is the spot.
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You guys have been next level with the giveaways of
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the last couple of seasons. There's two of them that
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are on the set here, Desan Brown and Addison Barger.
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Is that Addison Barger.
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Davis Schneider right there, but you see that's kind of
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wearying the lead. Addison Barger's coming this year and so
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is Treya Savage. So two bobbleheads this year for fans
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to get their hands on. Addison Barger, who of course
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had a great postseason for the Blue Jays in the
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deep run, and Treya Savage, I don't think there's any
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baseball fan in Canada who does not know Trey's name
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these days. And so he's been immortalized in bibblehead form
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as well. And fun Little Feather in our cap were
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the first team Trays ever played for to do a
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bobblehead at least in his pro career. And so to
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get your hands on that, you can buy a bibblehead
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package that secures you those two and you also tickets
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to the game. That is a great way to add
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to your bibble collection.
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What day is that? When happened? You know on the spot.
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So this is actually both in the second half sech
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our schedule at Canadians Baseball dot com, I'm doing my
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pregame prep or my preseason prep. As the broadcaster, I
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gotta start to memorize these promotion dates.
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Well yeah, no kidding, what other promotions are going on.
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It's all sort of nostal not also nostalgic, but it's
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a nostalgia.
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It's the seventy fifth anniversary season long celebration. Every Tuesday
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at the night we're going to celebrate the history of
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the ballpark. There's five different pennant giveaways honoring the five
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different eras at the ballpark, going back to the Capilanos
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and the Mounties all the way up to the current Canadians.
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We've got a mini Nap Bailey Stadium replica giveaway that
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can sit nicely on anybody's desk for their bookshelf. Tons
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of giveaways for kids as well. Postgame kids run the
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bases on Sunday's nooners on Fridays of course thanks to
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Ford to s PC and Saturdays in the first three
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months of the season are at one oh five like
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they have been. But now after the calendar flips to July,
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Saturday night games are going to be at five oh five,
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So you come to the net then you can go
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on and have the rest of your night somewhere else
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in our great sales.
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Oh that's awesome.
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Yeah, something I'm excited about. I'm excited about all of it.
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But the hay Yall Porch is coming back. There was
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a they used to be just a home run fence,
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and then I believe in twenty eleven they took down
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the fence, added a new seating section and it was
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funded by Hey y'all drinks, and then it was not
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hay y'all for a while, but hey y'all is back.
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Hey y'all is back.
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You were the first person I thought of, Bob when
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I had heard the news. It was the Hey y'all Porch,
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Then it became the Neutral Zone, and now it's the
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Hey y'all Porch once again, which for all of us
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over at the NAT feels right. The Hey y'all Porch
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just really is a special part of what we do
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over there, and just another great example of not just
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a great place to watch the game, but one of
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the many options fans can enjoy both food and beverage wise,
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all sorts of beers and urtds, great food.
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You know, the yard dog.
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We got the yard Nachos coming out this year, three
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foot long box of nachos to go with your yard dog.
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over at the ballpark. It's nearly finished. Triple O's. Like
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that great video we did on your Instagram, Berger's Fries, Shakes, Chicken,
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It's going to be a blast, milkshakes.
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I might have to mix it up because I'm a
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creature of habit I go to the game, I get
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a diet PEPSI I get a foot long hot dog,
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and then I'll get an ice cream cone sometime in
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like the fifth or the sixth inning might have to
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go with a milkshake instead of a ice cream and Bob.
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to name the milkshake after you, maybe for twenty twenty seven.
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But I implore you to get out of your routine. Taste
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that triple os. Maybe bring you a yard notacho at
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your seat as well, and see how deep you can
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get on that three feet of chips and cheese.
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Awesome. Thank you for your time, Tyler.
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When we come back, Nina is going to be talking
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to people about what they like on their hot dog.
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And for the record, the only correct way to dress
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your hot dog is with fresh onions and mustard.
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Welcome back to the show.
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Nina is out on the street talking to people about
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something that is incredibly important. It's what they like to
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have on their hot dogs. Nina.
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I'm Nina Savage and this is street Survey today. We're
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out on the streets getting your hot dog hot takes.
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So what's your go to hot dog?
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Order?
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A little bit weird. I like mayo on my hot dog.
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Like mayo green olives, onions, ketchup and mustard, ketchup E
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ketchup mustard, ketchup, mustard relish and onions, hello, paniols. Whatever
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you got, I just keep it simple. I got a
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beat dog and I just put ketchup on that. So
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what toppings did you get?
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I get the caramelized onions, cheese, Barbero sauce, valancina and
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meal and banana peppers.
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Just the plain frankfurter with a brown bun with testam
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seats on it. Just mustard, onions and ketchup and.
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A little butter.
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Okay, obviously the hot dog, the weaner and the bread
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and then ketchup, mustard relish and hopefully the bread is
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also like.
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Toasted or warm in some way. And I feel like
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that's my not to What does a hot dog seem
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like in Nanaimo compared to Vancouver? Not as hot, right,
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and not as dog? It's not as good. You need
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the island to ketchup, step up island and.
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You run five thirty year in BC Vancouver.
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Do you have any hot dog hot takes for the
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people watching? I guess the question that is a hot dog?
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What is it?
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Is it a sandwich?
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Or what is that.
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What is that?
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Is it a sandwich or a taco?
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Yeah? Is it a sandwich?
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It's a hot dog, a sandwich or a taco. And
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what is your consensus? I think it would be more
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of a taco. And so what's it like running a
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hot dog stand in Vancouver?
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It's good business. Very soon pefI is coming. I hope
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you're busy, but so far okay, no problem, make money,
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We make money and fin And what do.
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You think doesn't belong on a hot dog?
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I would say everything else, like the what is it
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called the green stuff they put on you raish?
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No? Is there anything that you think does not belong
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on a hot dog?
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Oh?
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I don't like spice, so probably not. The banana peppers?
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Is that what they're called.
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I think a hot dog can be whatever you want
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it to be, as long as it tastes good to you.
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Do you think you could eat a three foot long
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hot dog?
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No? Way?
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Put together? We can do it today, we can maybe
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do it. Do you like hot dogs?
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Yes?
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And what's like the perfect time for a hot dog?
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We have baseball any time, anytime. But camping is the best. Yeah,
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camping is the best for a hot dog and a
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soccer game. That's a yeah, like any sports event.
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Do you have a favorite place in Vancouver or BC
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or the world to get a hot dog?
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Home?
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Homemade hot dogs?
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You know, having like a really a good quality waner,
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maybe from from a local butcher or something, and then
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then getting all the condiments on your own.
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You know, homemade's good.
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Yeah.
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What has changed over the years this year?
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After? Everybody's slow, especially right now you're single timing, but
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you okay if you surviving?
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Hi guys, Hey, how you.
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Doing number one number one channel?
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You're wondering my hot dog order? Just a regular dog,
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sauteed onions, mustard, ketchup relish. I'll take everything, So it's
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time for me to get a hot dog. This is
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Street Survey and I'm Nina Savage.
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We're going on a b C road trip to Black
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Creek and if you can tell me exactly where that is,
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you're probably from Vancouver Island. This tiny little community is
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between Como's and Camel River on the Old Island Highway
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and was actually once supposed to be the home to
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a baseball stadium the size of Fenway in Boston, and
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that was partly thanks to a former major leaguer named
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Bill the Spaceman Lee, what did.
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You Maybe you could do it again? Yeah, well I
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usually don't.
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I'm not in a person of habit so much so
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that I just had a lot of pancakes for the
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ball game in the morning, and then I went out
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and had a beer and a steak and.
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Go get them anything special on those pancakes. No maple syrup.
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They got good syrup around here.
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They sure do this.
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This is maple syrup country.
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Now.
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Lee was a fixture in this little community for decades,
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and according to Jack Knox and The Times, calling this newspaper,
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he liked to hang out at a place called the
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Fisherman's Lodge pub.
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A friend of his named Andrew.
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Andrewsoff lived in Black Creek and had a fifty acre
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farm where he raised a fallow deer and had a
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private nine hole golf course that he and his friends
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would play on. He was working on a business plan
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for investors in a huge baseball stadium on his land,
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and the Spaceman said that he'd pitch in by doing
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baseball camps and to help people get more interested in
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the sport. But the investors never came, and this stadium
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project is now just a fuzzy memory twenty years later.
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You're not going to find much mention of it on
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the internet, but ask around Black Creek you'll hear more.
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There's a going concern right now that might make you
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want to visit this place.
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It's happening now.
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It's called Breakers Resort and it's right on the beach
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in Black Creek. It has eleven different cabins that you
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can rent with friends. It's family owned and operated. It
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keeps a fairly low profile, and it's one of those
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spots that you would usually only hear about through family
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and friends, and then you keep going back year after year,
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like an old ballpark. If you're into fishing, the Oyster
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River is just a quick jount down the beach, or
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there's charters that operate out of the nearby marinas that
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you could walk to. And not far away is Coastal
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Black Winery and Sidary, which not only makes great quality
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drinks for adults, but has lots of seasonal events for
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all ages on their farm. There's no baseball in this
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community to speak of to go and watch, but they
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do have the internet here in Black Creek relation two
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thousand ish, so you could stream the Jay's game or
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whichever team you follow while you're relaxing on the porch
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of your cabin or sitting in front of the fire pit.
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Build a spaceman.
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Lee is now seventy nine years old, and I'm not
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sure if he spent time on the island recently, but
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if they build it, I bet he would come back. Now,
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get out there and enjoy your BC road trip. This
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piece of history is probably supported by the Museum of Vancouver.
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Vancouver's story begins here. We're back at the Museum of
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Vancouver talking about baseball and things affiliated with baseball and
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somebody very important to baseball in this city. Usually we
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are in the collection storage in the basement of this building.
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But today where are we Ryan?
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We are in the nineteen fifties gallery of our Vancouver
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Stories gallery.
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Okay, and who are we talking about it? What are
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we talking about? Talking about Nat Bailey?
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While he wasn't born in BC, he is a BC
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success story and made a huge connection to Vancouver and
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the sport of baseball exactly.
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The stadium Nat Bailey Stadium is seventy five years old
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this year. It was named after him in the nineteen seventies,
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it was originally made in the nineteen fifties. They renamed
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it because he was such an integral part to supporting
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baseball and supporting that particular stadium.
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And that team. Was he an owner of one of
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the teams?
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Yeah, So Nat Bailey was a co owner of a
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minor league team called the Vancouver Mounties. And fun fact
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about the name Vancouver Mounties. Before the Vancouver Grizzlies basketball
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team became the Vancouver Grizzlies, they were planned to be
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the Vancouver Mounties, but there was some concern from the
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RCMP that they didn't have the copyright to use that name,
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and as a result, it became the Grizzlies.
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Awesome.
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So Nat Bailey obviously the founder of White Spot.
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What have we got on the collection here?
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Yeah, So the first White Spot was opened in nineteen
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twenty eight and by nineteen fifty five they were reaching
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over one hundred thousand customers a year.
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At the one location across they franchised that, oh gotcha,
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And it was.
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Canada's first car hop based restaurant. And some of these
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restaurants are from that era. Some of these, for example,
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and what you'd do is you'd pull up, you'd turn
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on your lights to let the servers know that you're ready.
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They'd come, they'd take your order and they'd leave these
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cards on your windshield to let people know what you'd ordered.
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Then they'd bring a big green tray, look it over
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your wind window and yeah, you'd be dining outside of
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your car.
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I think lots of people don't realize that this is
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a made INBC business. There are triple os in other provinces,
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but there are no white spots west of the Rockies.
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There are some triple os in Ontario, but it's it's
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primarily a.
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British Columbia thing.
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And the best thing I will say this, you and
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I talked about this off camera. The best thing although
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I get what is in this menu from the eighties?
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Oh no, this other one. There's another menu here. I
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get the same thing that's in this menu. It is
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a burger with a milkshake. And that's what I get
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every single time. And you know what it comes with.
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It comes with the world's best cole slaw. And the
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reason why it's the world's best coalslaw is because A
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it's fantastic. B it has sunflower seeds in it. And
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if they ever decide to cheap out. This is my
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message directly to White Spot. If you ever take the
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sunflower seeds out of the coalslaw, we will riot me
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and Ryan he said he likes it off camera.
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He likes to makes it difference.
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Yes, anyways, we got some other stuff here. Yeah.
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So, in addition to being known for White Spot, nat
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Bailey had a number of different businesses and initiatives, and
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one of them is shown in the sugar packet here
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from the nat Bailey Villa. So Neat Bailey started a
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hotel chain in the nineteen sixties that had three locations, Vancouver,
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Burnaby and Nanaimo. And here we have a wrapped sugar
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packet from nat Bailey Villa and also from White Spot.
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Those are really cool, the cubes, the sugar cubes. They
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don't really make those anymore.
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Do they not like that?
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I mean it's probably pretty waste intensive to wrap two
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sugar cubes.
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True, Yes, that's true. Okay.
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Anyways, Vancouver's story begins here at the museum. You should
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come and visit. There are all kinds of things. Usually,
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like I said, we're in the basement.
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This place. You can actually come to and check.
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Out all of the cool, incredible stories of Vancouver.
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That's the show for this week.
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Big thanks to Tyler Zickel and the Vancouver Canadians, Jim
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Swanson from the Harborcats and the night Owls. Build a space, Manlee,
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sure throw them in there. And my good friend Jason Donaldson,
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who I go to baseball games with all the time.
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Show director Derek Wong, Roving reporter Nina Savage, editor are
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of and everybody at employee owned Check Media. You can
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And of course I will see you here on Check
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next week when I'll tell you more stories about this
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great province of ours and now you Know BC
