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I'm your host, Dalton Huckabee, a licensed marriage and family therapist, and I'm grateful you've joined me.
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Back to your question.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I've worked with a lot a lot of people over the years, and I've answered more emails and more DMs and more texts, not even working with people.
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I don't even know thousands, honestly, at this point.
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And it's it's all the same shit.
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You know, unfortunately, our belief systems are formed by, I shouldn't say unfortunately, you know this.
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Our belief systems are formed by typically our parents or whoever's raising us, usually around like four, five, six years old.
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You know, like for instance, like maybe you come from a religious family and you know you have to go to church.
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Well, you're you're you're being forced into this environment, and your belief system is being shaped that it's a must.
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It has to happen.
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Well, no, it doesn't.
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Yeah, as we get older, we say, does it though?
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Does it but anyways, belief systems, yeah, they're pretty pretty similar.
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Traumas are you know, it differs per person, but middle class traumas are pretty middle class traumas.
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Um, and I and I'm I'm being very general, but one thing that I'm sorry, did I cut you off?
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I guess one thing that comes to mind for me that um might I'm kind of guessing just throwing a dart here, right?
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Is that um there's this idea of like, okay, well, in leadership, like if we're the the ideas that were kind of governing policies and procedures, right?
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For that um, you know, kind of oversee the the workings of the business.
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And so within that, it's like there's on one hand, you have your own ideas that you're kind of bringing to the table, but then on the other hand, you've got to be able to like work with the team.
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So it seems to me that a common challenge might be how can I get out of just what I think how it might need to be, and be able to engage in this collaborative, compromising space for the benefit of the company.
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Yeah.
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It it certainly is a hang up for a lot of people, and the answer is actually very simple, it's just a matter of executing the answer, you know, thousands of times.
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And and and and there, I don't I'm gonna paraphrase this, but I I believe it's a Greek philosopher.
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I actually quoted it in my second book.
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I can't remember who said it.
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Um, but I'm paraphrasing you have two ears and one mouth, shut up and listen.
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Nice, use your ears more and your mouth less, right?
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And that's you know, I'm paraphrasing and I'm trying to I'm gonna use that with clients.
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Yeah, but but but fundamentally, as a business owner, you know, and and and that's what you're asking about.
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If if you want to learn how to compromise, if you want to learn what's going on in your company, you got to listen.
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It doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna do what you're hearing, but you you have to listen.
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And using your you have two ears and one mouth, listen more and speak less.
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Right.
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And and as a business owner, uh this skill of listening is integral to scaling.
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Um, people have misjudged like people that don't know me have misjudged me over the years.
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Uh, specifically, I used to have like a heavy social media presence.
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Now I don't care.
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I just have a podcast and a YouTube channel.
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But a lot of people would say, Oh, this guy just loves to hear himself talk.
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Actually, no, I can't stand hearing myself talk.
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However, people only see me on formats like this, where I'm literally just talking.
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The rest of the day, outside of giving a meeting to my staff or maybe talking to a customer, I don't speak, I just listen.
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And as a business owner, it's very important to be able to do that because you have to have your ear to the ground of the company of what's going on.
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Now, again, as I just said, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to do what everybody's saying, but you need to understand it.
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Yeah, so that way you have like an awareness of what's kind of going on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's interesting that you kind of you're bringing up that aspect of uh PT PTSD, right?
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Where you know, even kind of business, you know, we're all susceptible to something, right?
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And so even business owners, right, are susceptible to their own mental health matters and concerns.
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And so I what I wanted to ask is like, do you feel like you provide some kind of tools and support with business owners to like how do you work with PTSD, anxiety or depression?
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Like as you're engaging and trying to grow your health, your business and support your you know, your team and things like this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Yes, um, there's many things that I do, but you know, the most pertinent thing is is my first book, right?
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It's it's framework on how to reprogram the subconscious.
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And it's just like we were talking about repetitiveness.
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So let's say someone has PTSD.
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Um, pretty easy for me to recognize because you know, coming from someone who has been diagnosed with PTSD coming out of the military and and after a couple of tours um in Disneylands, aka Iraq.
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Um it I see a lot of it, even low-key, like even like small glimpses of it.
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And you know, I at first when I when I address the subject, people are like, Oh no, Chris, like you have PTSD.
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I my mine is nothing like yours.
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And it's like, no, no, no.
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It regardless of the circumstances, we both have had it or have it.
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It's not not one is more important than the other.
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Uh, I know people that have PTSD from car accidents.
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I by no means would I discredit their circumstances because they were in a car accident and I was wounded in war, it doesn't make me better, it doesn't make them worse.
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Fundamentally, we have PTSD.
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Okay, so let's figure out how to move past this.
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Well, you know, anyone in the psychology realm understands there's all sorts of techniques, but the premise to my first book and the tools that I offer the world are what I write about.
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Now, let me frame this correctly: they are not my tools.
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Authors, we have a saying amongst ourselves.
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None of us are original, right?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, hardly there's hardly an original thought anymore these days, right?
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Yeah, it's all regurgitated for millennia at this point, right?
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Like, I don't know what the oldest book is.
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I I'm ignorant to it, but let's just say the Bible, like the Christian Bible.
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Okay, fine.
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Let's just use it as a benchmark.
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2,000 years, give or take.
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Everything's regurgitated, books have been written forever.
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You know, I I got a library right here, and you know, I like Marcus Aurelius, like a very you know famous uh Emperor of Rome, right?
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Like he has a book where it talks about his his journals and his journaling.
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It's been regurgitated for 2,000 years.
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Like, not only has it been regurgitated, it's been rewritten and written in different languages for 2,000 years.
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Like it's all been regurgitated, it's not anyone's original idea, it's just our take on it.
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My take on PTSD and moving past it, and what has helped me incredibly is basically a routine to replace habits um proactively.
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Um, what I write about and what I teach and what I offer is um meditation, gratitude journaling, affirmations.
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Outside of that, really paying attention to your spoken word, how you speak.
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Um and my approach with those is on a daily basis for years, you can rewire your brain to really whatever belief system you want.
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The reason why I went down this journey is because when I was getting out of the military many moons ago, the department of the BA uh just told me, okay, you have PTSD, it's here, you have traumatic brain, it's here, it's on your paperwork.
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Um, we're gonna give you, prescribe you these pills, and we're gonna send you to therapy.
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And I said, Well, I've done some research on this.
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Um, I've read that meditation can um block um unblock trauma, and the synapses in the brain can move differently.
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And the lady was like, Well, yeah, you could do that too.
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And I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna do that one.
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That was 17 years ago, yeah, 18 years ago.
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Um, 18 years later.
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Um I'm at peace.
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Nice.
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I think I think that there's like this real aspect is I don't know, I have this kind of working theory, right?
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That a lot of things that can like come up for us is like if we're not if it's when the mind and body is separated, right?
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And so like that aspect of mindfulness or meditation, whatever, right, is that grounding process so that your butt my mind is you know in my body, right?
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And then I can be more in the now, right, versus regretting from the past or the unknowns about the future, right?
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And where depression, anxiety can live easily, right?
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And so, um, and so being able to have that kind of grounded approach.
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I really appreciate that.
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And yeah, I'm a I'm a fan of uh, you know, gratitude rains, man.
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Gratitude reigns.
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And to your point, to your point, if you just take 30 minutes as soon as you wake up, don't get on your phone, don't get on your computers, just take 30 minutes and just whatever your belief system is, pray, be be grateful, write it, speak it, pray it.
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Just sit with your thoughts for five, 10 minutes after that, meditate, which is meditation.
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You know, a lot of people don't know.
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You could just go for a walk and meditate or sit down and meditate exactly, yeah.
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Every single morning, as soon as you wake up, don't don't open this, and and you proactively ground yourself to your point.
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Years later, you can have a completely different mindset.
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But most people don't want to put the work in.
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I think you know that better than anybody.
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Yes, yeah, when the when that action comes to it, right?
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It was like, yeah, but but but right, or they they they right, kind of yeah, yeah, that that accountability piece, yeah, can go a long ways.
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Yeah, and you know this when you point the finger that way, there's three more.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Yeah, that's a good question.
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Good great questions.
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You got any more information?
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Yeah, yeah, let's see.
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Um, so kind of this idea about like maybe when you think about like, okay, if we if if we're not where we want to be, right?
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And so, but we have an idea where we want to go, and so how are we gonna get there?
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And so there's gonna be action to kind of like get us there, whatever that is, right?
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There's that kind of accountability piece, and like you said, a lot of people may not want to do that action, right?
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And so, in that kind of vein, like um, this is again the Zoe question is there a hard truth about growth that you feel people don't want to hear?
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Oh god, it's all the truths about growth that people don't want to hear.
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Yes, all of them, all of them, all of them, all of them.
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I mean, let's let's be honest.
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After you pass about 30 years old, humans are on cruise control, they're done.
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They're they're done, right?
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How is it?
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I'm literally like resigned to the fact like lifelong learner, like lifelong learner, dude.
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Yeah, I'm a student.
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Yeah, but but let's let's be subject, uh let's be let's be not subjective.
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Let's be um I I don't know the the right term for this, but let's let's discuss this, let's unpack it a little bit.
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After about 30, I don't know, 35 years old, humans are just on cruise control, they're not really advancing, they're not really learning, they're kind of just rinse, wash, and repeat.
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The majority of humans, anyways, you know, 90, 95, maybe 99, depending on how you look at it.
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I would say 95.
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And and their belief systems are in place, their their thought processes are in place, their mindsets in place, and you know, that's where they are, and that's likely where they're going to stay, unless they truly want to change.
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And oftentimes, in order to change, it takes a lot of pain, right?
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Like, uncomfortable of like, okay, I'm tired of being in this place, and then maybe I'll consider doing something to get out of it.
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Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah, what I tell my clients is when you want to change, when you're when you're fed up and you want to change as badly as you need to breathe, you'll change.
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It well, how I explain it is there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but you got to go through the shadows.
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You gotta do the shadow work before you get to the right.
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And sometimes sometimes it takes years, and it's scary.
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And it's and it's it's uncertain.
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But eventually the you find the light, it will come.
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And and a lot of times, life is much different when you get there.
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The the the surface level friends are gone, the people that are using you are gone.
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You become aware, you had to face all these things of yourself.
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We we sometimes we stumble upon childhood trauma, you know, maybe some relationship trauma.
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Maybe we realize our parents are freaking narcissists and manipulative, and we're like, oh, and we see our parents for who they are, and you're like, You gotta face it, you gotta face all these things, right?
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And then, you know, years later, when you find the light, it it's a little bit more solitude because you've made the changes and become aware, and then life is just in a different place.
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And I am a firm believer that literally anyone can change if they so choose to put the work in.
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And I really think the the recipe to that success is just your habits, whatever you choose.
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Whatever you choose.
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So, for instance, you know, if I want to be a world champion in jujitsu, I have to have habits in place to achieve that.
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I have to stretch daily, I have to foam roll daily, I have to do jujitsu basically daily, I have to study YouTube tutorials daily, I have to so on and so forth.
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And those four things I do every day because I want the outcome.
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You know, it and sometimes it takes years to get there, but it's just the habits.
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It's just the habits.
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You have to place the habits to get to where you want to go.
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And the journey along the way is actually the beautiful part, in my humble opinion.
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That's where the real enlightenment comes from.
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You become aware and you understand a lot more than you did prior.
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Yeah, and in this idea like being in it for the long haul, for the long term, right?
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I think that, you know, if we can kind of meet ourselves in that space, then like I don't know, you know, of course, you know, there might be times when like, oh, I'm not where I want to be right now, right?
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Like, of course, maybe you want to be the worldwide jujitsu leader, like right now, right?
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Yeah, but it's like, hey, that's how realistic is that?
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So like you know, like how realistic things are, but then also knowing that as long as I'm doing my best effort, then I'm working towards I'm working towards it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And habits, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and yeah, I mean, even just even in in my 50s now, right?
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I'm like the most confident than I ever have been in my life, right?
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And it's like so it just kind of comes with, like you said, it's like you know, the all that time, like doing the shadow work and kind of like learning from mistakes and all these things, right?
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Yeah.
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It's certainly certainly eye-opening, isn't it?
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Yep, yep, it really is.
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I actually write about this confidence specifically in my second book, Enlightened Entrepreneur.
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If you looked at me 20 years ago in the military, I was you know, in incredible shape, you know, I was super duper lean, young, had hair, you know, handsome.
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At least some people told me I was.
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You would you would you would think he carries a machine gun, you would think that guy was confident.
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No, I was a very insecure young man.
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You know, 20 years later, you know, keep myself in good shape.
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I know you keep yourself in good shape.
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Uh don't have any hair, don't carry a machine gun anymore.
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But the confidence is the best it's ever been.
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And I think a lot of that comes from learning who we are and just accepting who we are.
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No, by no means am I perfect, nor are you.
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However, we know it is, yeah.
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However, we understand our selves, at least to a capacity and degree, we understand what we're good at.
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I would imagine you're probably similar to me.
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I know exactly what I'm not good at, which makes a confident human.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Um so kind of when we're thinking about this aspect of getting back to ISO, if we can.
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So, what do you think makes ISO unique to stand out against other healthcare providers?
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Well, from my understanding, and this you know, this has a lot to do with what you guys have been working on, um specifically over the past year and a half, is I'm confident that the internal management has become good and becoming great.
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Something that I have noticed among I, for lack of better terms, healthcare companies is lack of management.
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With management in place, I believe that the end result will only be the strongest, meaning the care for the client will be the strongest because the organization is organized and managed.
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Now, that's just my humble opinion.
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You know, I'm not a subject matter expert when it comes to the um other therapy practices in in the in the area or nationally, but I see how hard you guys are working on um specifically the management of the company, and I believe that's a strong suit.
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I really do.
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Nice, awesome.
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And so how do you how can you uh yeah, the idea right that can kind of like position the company to be able to kind of continue to you know, again, keep in the center of the the clients, the quality of client care at the center of the attention.
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And so with that idea, um how do you how do you see the future of ISO continuing to provide mental health services in the community?
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Like how do you see the future of ISO?
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I think I think the future, you know, from my understanding, I think the future of isotherapy is is going to be a bit more um I the word that comes to mind is diverse, but I don't think that's correct.
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I believe it's going to be more impactful to larger amounts of community because I understand the the the future vision of impacting more communities and creating a larger community within of all of the clients, like opening more offices and in more cities and and helping more people.
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So I just I believe that the growth trajectory is the answer.
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Um, and I'm not at liberty to say, you know, specifics, but I believe you know, I believe that the growth trajectory is the answer.
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I truly do.
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Um, I believe that's what affects people the most.
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Nice.
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Yeah, she's uh yeah, and has been talking about the opening of this office.
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I'm in LA, right?
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So so she's been talking about the opening up this office in Los Angeles, so pretty excited for that.
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Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything.
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Yeah, but yeah, well, time will tell, right?
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That's the idea.
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We'll hopefully uh kind of see where it goes.
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But um, yeah, so any kind of closing thoughts or questions as we wrap up.
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What'd you think?
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Did you like our conversation?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, I loved it, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Love the um uh you know, I again I think there's like some tangible kind of mental health components that can tie into like an individual level still, right?
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Um, and again, I think this aspect of kind of you know this growth and action-oriented mindset.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it was an absolute pleasure, you know.
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Um my my one of my assistants said, Hey Chris, they want to put you on the podcast and ask you some questions.
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And I was like, ooh, ooh, ooh, this should be fun.
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Because I you introduced yourself to me in person back in December when we met.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I knew you were working on this project, but now that it has come to fruition and we're finishing up our you know, our first conversation, I think it's a beautiful thing.
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So thank you for for having me and and and thank you for your time and uh very well thought out questions.
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Good job, Dalton and Zoe.
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Thanks a lot, man.
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I appreciate it.
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We really do try.
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And so, yeah, and so we're coming in.
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I think July it'll be a year, and so we're in like episode 40-ish now.
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So we're still in our yeah.
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So if you before you go, if you Google it, most podcasts don't get to 40.
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That's the number, right?
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I understood, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So if you can make it past 40, you should have some good impact coming.
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All right, crossing fingers, crossing fingers.
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Hey, well, I appreciate your time, man.
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It's really good to chat with you a little bit more.
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Of course, of course, and vice versa.
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Thanks for tuning in this week.
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Be sure to listen to our next episode as we explore various aspects of how to show up for ourselves and others by tending to our own mental and emotional well being.
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I'm your host, Dalton Huckabee, a licensed marriage and family therapist, and I'm grateful you've joined me.
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Back to your question.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I've worked with a lot a lot of people over the years, and I've answered more emails and more DMs and more texts, not even working with people.
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I don't even know thousands, honestly, at this point.
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And it's it's all the same shit.
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You know, unfortunately, our belief systems are formed by, I shouldn't say unfortunately, you know this.
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Our belief systems are formed by typically our parents or whoever's raising us, usually around like four, five, six years old.
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You know, like for instance, like maybe you come from a religious family and you know you have to go to church.
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Well, you're you're you're being forced into this environment, and your belief system is being shaped that it's a must.
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It has to happen.
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Well, no, it doesn't.
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Yeah, as we get older, we say, does it though?
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Does it but anyways, belief systems, yeah, they're pretty pretty similar.
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Traumas are you know, it differs per person, but middle class traumas are pretty middle class traumas.
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Um, and I and I'm I'm being very general, but one thing that I'm sorry, did I cut you off?
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I guess one thing that comes to mind for me that um might I'm kind of guessing just throwing a dart here, right?
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Is that um there's this idea of like, okay, well, in leadership, like if we're the the ideas that were kind of governing policies and procedures, right?
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For that um, you know, kind of oversee the the workings of the business.
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And so within that, it's like there's on one hand, you have your own ideas that you're kind of bringing to the table, but then on the other hand, you've got to be able to like work with the team.
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So it seems to me that a common challenge might be how can I get out of just what I think how it might need to be, and be able to engage in this collaborative, compromising space for the benefit of the company.
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Yeah.
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It it certainly is a hang up for a lot of people, and the answer is actually very simple, it's just a matter of executing the answer, you know, thousands of times.
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And and and and there, I don't I'm gonna paraphrase this, but I I believe it's a Greek philosopher.
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I actually quoted it in my second book.
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I can't remember who said it.
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Um, but I'm paraphrasing you have two ears and one mouth, shut up and listen.
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Nice, use your ears more and your mouth less, right?
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And that's you know, I'm paraphrasing and I'm trying to I'm gonna use that with clients.
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Yeah, but but but fundamentally, as a business owner, you know, and and and that's what you're asking about.
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If if you want to learn how to compromise, if you want to learn what's going on in your company, you got to listen.
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It doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna do what you're hearing, but you you have to listen.
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And using your you have two ears and one mouth, listen more and speak less.
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Right.
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And and as a business owner, uh this skill of listening is integral to scaling.
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Um, people have misjudged like people that don't know me have misjudged me over the years.
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Uh, specifically, I used to have like a heavy social media presence.
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Now I don't care.
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I just have a podcast and a YouTube channel.
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But a lot of people would say, Oh, this guy just loves to hear himself talk.
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Actually, no, I can't stand hearing myself talk.
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However, people only see me on formats like this, where I'm literally just talking.
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The rest of the day, outside of giving a meeting to my staff or maybe talking to a customer, I don't speak, I just listen.
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And as a business owner, it's very important to be able to do that because you have to have your ear to the ground of the company of what's going on.
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Now, again, as I just said, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to do what everybody's saying, but you need to understand it.
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Yeah, so that way you have like an awareness of what's kind of going on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's interesting that you kind of you're bringing up that aspect of uh PT PTSD, right?
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Where you know, even kind of business, you know, we're all susceptible to something, right?
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And so even business owners, right, are susceptible to their own mental health matters and concerns.
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And so I what I wanted to ask is like, do you feel like you provide some kind of tools and support with business owners to like how do you work with PTSD, anxiety or depression?
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Like as you're engaging and trying to grow your health, your business and support your you know, your team and things like this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Yes, um, there's many things that I do, but you know, the most pertinent thing is is my first book, right?
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It's it's framework on how to reprogram the subconscious.
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And it's just like we were talking about repetitiveness.
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So let's say someone has PTSD.
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Um, pretty easy for me to recognize because you know, coming from someone who has been diagnosed with PTSD coming out of the military and and after a couple of tours um in Disneylands, aka Iraq.
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Um it I see a lot of it, even low-key, like even like small glimpses of it.
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And you know, I at first when I when I address the subject, people are like, Oh no, Chris, like you have PTSD.
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I my mine is nothing like yours.
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And it's like, no, no, no.
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It regardless of the circumstances, we both have had it or have it.
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It's not not one is more important than the other.
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Uh, I know people that have PTSD from car accidents.
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I by no means would I discredit their circumstances because they were in a car accident and I was wounded in war, it doesn't make me better, it doesn't make them worse.
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Fundamentally, we have PTSD.
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Okay, so let's figure out how to move past this.
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Well, you know, anyone in the psychology realm understands there's all sorts of techniques, but the premise to my first book and the tools that I offer the world are what I write about.
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Now, let me frame this correctly: they are not my tools.
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Authors, we have a saying amongst ourselves.
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None of us are original, right?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, hardly there's hardly an original thought anymore these days, right?
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Yeah, it's all regurgitated for millennia at this point, right?
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Like, I don't know what the oldest book is.
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I I'm ignorant to it, but let's just say the Bible, like the Christian Bible.
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Okay, fine.
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Let's just use it as a benchmark.
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2,000 years, give or take.
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Everything's regurgitated, books have been written forever.
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You know, I I got a library right here, and you know, I like Marcus Aurelius, like a very you know famous uh Emperor of Rome, right?
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Like he has a book where it talks about his his journals and his journaling.
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It's been regurgitated for 2,000 years.
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Like, not only has it been regurgitated, it's been rewritten and written in different languages for 2,000 years.
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Like it's all been regurgitated, it's not anyone's original idea, it's just our take on it.
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My take on PTSD and moving past it, and what has helped me incredibly is basically a routine to replace habits um proactively.
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Um, what I write about and what I teach and what I offer is um meditation, gratitude journaling, affirmations.
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Outside of that, really paying attention to your spoken word, how you speak.
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Um and my approach with those is on a daily basis for years, you can rewire your brain to really whatever belief system you want.
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The reason why I went down this journey is because when I was getting out of the military many moons ago, the department of the BA uh just told me, okay, you have PTSD, it's here, you have traumatic brain, it's here, it's on your paperwork.
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Um, we're gonna give you, prescribe you these pills, and we're gonna send you to therapy.
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And I said, Well, I've done some research on this.
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Um, I've read that meditation can um block um unblock trauma, and the synapses in the brain can move differently.
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And the lady was like, Well, yeah, you could do that too.
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And I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna do that one.
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That was 17 years ago, yeah, 18 years ago.
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Um, 18 years later.
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Um I'm at peace.
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Nice.
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I think I think that there's like this real aspect is I don't know, I have this kind of working theory, right?
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That a lot of things that can like come up for us is like if we're not if it's when the mind and body is separated, right?
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And so like that aspect of mindfulness or meditation, whatever, right, is that grounding process so that your butt my mind is you know in my body, right?
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And then I can be more in the now, right, versus regretting from the past or the unknowns about the future, right?
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And where depression, anxiety can live easily, right?
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And so, um, and so being able to have that kind of grounded approach.
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I really appreciate that.
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And yeah, I'm a I'm a fan of uh, you know, gratitude rains, man.
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Gratitude reigns.
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And to your point, to your point, if you just take 30 minutes as soon as you wake up, don't get on your phone, don't get on your computers, just take 30 minutes and just whatever your belief system is, pray, be be grateful, write it, speak it, pray it.
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Just sit with your thoughts for five, 10 minutes after that, meditate, which is meditation.
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You know, a lot of people don't know.
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You could just go for a walk and meditate or sit down and meditate exactly, yeah.
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Every single morning, as soon as you wake up, don't don't open this, and and you proactively ground yourself to your point.
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Years later, you can have a completely different mindset.
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But most people don't want to put the work in.
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I think you know that better than anybody.
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Yes, yeah, when the when that action comes to it, right?
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It was like, yeah, but but but right, or they they they right, kind of yeah, yeah, that that accountability piece, yeah, can go a long ways.
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Yeah, and you know this when you point the finger that way, there's three more.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Yeah, that's a good question.
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Good great questions.
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You got any more information?
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Yeah, yeah, let's see.
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Um, so kind of this idea about like maybe when you think about like, okay, if we if if we're not where we want to be, right?
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And so, but we have an idea where we want to go, and so how are we gonna get there?
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And so there's gonna be action to kind of like get us there, whatever that is, right?
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There's that kind of accountability piece, and like you said, a lot of people may not want to do that action, right?
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And so, in that kind of vein, like um, this is again the Zoe question is there a hard truth about growth that you feel people don't want to hear?
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Oh god, it's all the truths about growth that people don't want to hear.
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Yes, all of them, all of them, all of them, all of them.
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I mean, let's let's be honest.
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After you pass about 30 years old, humans are on cruise control, they're done.
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They're they're done, right?
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How is it?
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I'm literally like resigned to the fact like lifelong learner, like lifelong learner, dude.
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Yeah, I'm a student.
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Yeah, but but let's let's be subject, uh let's be let's be not subjective.
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Let's be um I I don't know the the right term for this, but let's let's discuss this, let's unpack it a little bit.
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After about 30, I don't know, 35 years old, humans are just on cruise control, they're not really advancing, they're not really learning, they're kind of just rinse, wash, and repeat.
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The majority of humans, anyways, you know, 90, 95, maybe 99, depending on how you look at it.
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I would say 95.
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And and their belief systems are in place, their their thought processes are in place, their mindsets in place, and you know, that's where they are, and that's likely where they're going to stay, unless they truly want to change.
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And oftentimes, in order to change, it takes a lot of pain, right?
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Like, uncomfortable of like, okay, I'm tired of being in this place, and then maybe I'll consider doing something to get out of it.
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Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah, what I tell my clients is when you want to change, when you're when you're fed up and you want to change as badly as you need to breathe, you'll change.
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It well, how I explain it is there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but you got to go through the shadows.
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You gotta do the shadow work before you get to the right.
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And sometimes sometimes it takes years, and it's scary.
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And it's and it's it's uncertain.
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But eventually the you find the light, it will come.
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And and a lot of times, life is much different when you get there.
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The the the surface level friends are gone, the people that are using you are gone.
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You become aware, you had to face all these things of yourself.
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We we sometimes we stumble upon childhood trauma, you know, maybe some relationship trauma.
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Maybe we realize our parents are freaking narcissists and manipulative, and we're like, oh, and we see our parents for who they are, and you're like, You gotta face it, you gotta face all these things, right?
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And then, you know, years later, when you find the light, it it's a little bit more solitude because you've made the changes and become aware, and then life is just in a different place.
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And I am a firm believer that literally anyone can change if they so choose to put the work in.
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And I really think the the recipe to that success is just your habits, whatever you choose.
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Whatever you choose.
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So, for instance, you know, if I want to be a world champion in jujitsu, I have to have habits in place to achieve that.
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I have to stretch daily, I have to foam roll daily, I have to do jujitsu basically daily, I have to study YouTube tutorials daily, I have to so on and so forth.
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And those four things I do every day because I want the outcome.
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You know, it and sometimes it takes years to get there, but it's just the habits.
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It's just the habits.
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You have to place the habits to get to where you want to go.
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And the journey along the way is actually the beautiful part, in my humble opinion.
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That's where the real enlightenment comes from.
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You become aware and you understand a lot more than you did prior.
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Yeah, and in this idea like being in it for the long haul, for the long term, right?
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I think that, you know, if we can kind of meet ourselves in that space, then like I don't know, you know, of course, you know, there might be times when like, oh, I'm not where I want to be right now, right?
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Like, of course, maybe you want to be the worldwide jujitsu leader, like right now, right?
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Yeah, but it's like, hey, that's how realistic is that?
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So like you know, like how realistic things are, but then also knowing that as long as I'm doing my best effort, then I'm working towards I'm working towards it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And habits, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and yeah, I mean, even just even in in my 50s now, right?
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I'm like the most confident than I ever have been in my life, right?
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And it's like so it just kind of comes with, like you said, it's like you know, the all that time, like doing the shadow work and kind of like learning from mistakes and all these things, right?
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Yeah.
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It's certainly certainly eye-opening, isn't it?
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Yep, yep, it really is.
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I actually write about this confidence specifically in my second book, Enlightened Entrepreneur.
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If you looked at me 20 years ago in the military, I was you know, in incredible shape, you know, I was super duper lean, young, had hair, you know, handsome.
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At least some people told me I was.
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You would you would you would think he carries a machine gun, you would think that guy was confident.
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No, I was a very insecure young man.
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You know, 20 years later, you know, keep myself in good shape.
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I know you keep yourself in good shape.
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Uh don't have any hair, don't carry a machine gun anymore.
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But the confidence is the best it's ever been.
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And I think a lot of that comes from learning who we are and just accepting who we are.
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No, by no means am I perfect, nor are you.
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However, we know it is, yeah.
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However, we understand our selves, at least to a capacity and degree, we understand what we're good at.
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I would imagine you're probably similar to me.
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I know exactly what I'm not good at, which makes a confident human.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Um so kind of when we're thinking about this aspect of getting back to ISO, if we can.
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So, what do you think makes ISO unique to stand out against other healthcare providers?
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Well, from my understanding, and this you know, this has a lot to do with what you guys have been working on, um specifically over the past year and a half, is I'm confident that the internal management has become good and becoming great.
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Something that I have noticed among I, for lack of better terms, healthcare companies is lack of management.
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With management in place, I believe that the end result will only be the strongest, meaning the care for the client will be the strongest because the organization is organized and managed.
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Now, that's just my humble opinion.
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You know, I'm not a subject matter expert when it comes to the um other therapy practices in in the in the area or nationally, but I see how hard you guys are working on um specifically the management of the company, and I believe that's a strong suit.
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I really do.
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Nice, awesome.
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And so how do you how can you uh yeah, the idea right that can kind of like position the company to be able to kind of continue to you know, again, keep in the center of the the clients, the quality of client care at the center of the attention.
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And so with that idea, um how do you how do you see the future of ISO continuing to provide mental health services in the community?
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Like how do you see the future of ISO?
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I think I think the future, you know, from my understanding, I think the future of isotherapy is is going to be a bit more um I the word that comes to mind is diverse, but I don't think that's correct.
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I believe it's going to be more impactful to larger amounts of community because I understand the the the future vision of impacting more communities and creating a larger community within of all of the clients, like opening more offices and in more cities and and helping more people.
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So I just I believe that the growth trajectory is the answer.
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Um, and I'm not at liberty to say, you know, specifics, but I believe you know, I believe that the growth trajectory is the answer.
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I truly do.
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Um, I believe that's what affects people the most.
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Nice.
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Yeah, she's uh yeah, and has been talking about the opening of this office.
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I'm in LA, right?
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So so she's been talking about the opening up this office in Los Angeles, so pretty excited for that.
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Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything.
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Yeah, but yeah, well, time will tell, right?
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That's the idea.
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We'll hopefully uh kind of see where it goes.
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But um, yeah, so any kind of closing thoughts or questions as we wrap up.
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What'd you think?
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Did you like our conversation?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, I loved it, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Love the um uh you know, I again I think there's like some tangible kind of mental health components that can tie into like an individual level still, right?
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Um, and again, I think this aspect of kind of you know this growth and action-oriented mindset.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it was an absolute pleasure, you know.
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Um my my one of my assistants said, Hey Chris, they want to put you on the podcast and ask you some questions.
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And I was like, ooh, ooh, ooh, this should be fun.
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Because I you introduced yourself to me in person back in December when we met.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I knew you were working on this project, but now that it has come to fruition and we're finishing up our you know, our first conversation, I think it's a beautiful thing.
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So thank you for for having me and and and thank you for your time and uh very well thought out questions.
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Good job, Dalton and Zoe.
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Thanks a lot, man.
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I appreciate it.
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We really do try.
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And so, yeah, and so we're coming in.
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I think July it'll be a year, and so we're in like episode 40-ish now.
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So we're still in our yeah.
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So if you before you go, if you Google it, most podcasts don't get to 40.
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That's the number, right?
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I understood, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So if you can make it past 40, you should have some good impact coming.
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All right, crossing fingers, crossing fingers.
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Hey, well, I appreciate your time, man.
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It's really good to chat with you a little bit more.
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Of course, of course, and vice versa.
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Thanks for tuning in this week.
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Be sure to listen to our next episode as we explore various aspects of how to show up for ourselves and others by tending to our own mental and emotional well being.
