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Speaker 1: Morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, June seventeenth, and we now have a better idea of what life inside the NBA bubble is going to be like. I'm Jay Skeets and joining us on our very own anonymous hotline tas Mellice, Hey everybody, Hey Taxy. We also got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey out Hey, the international man of Mystery, taking it to the Max Leellis friend, and last, but not least, making this magic happen.
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Speaker 2: JD.
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Speaker 1: Hello, there he is and here we are. Yesterday, the NBA sent all of its players a health and safety manual ahead of the resumption of the twenty nineteen twenty season at Disney World. This thing is apparently a damn book, and our boys Sham's had it first up on the Athletic According to the movie, Nights, DJ sets and long games will be a part of the NBA's return to play. I hope that includes spike Ball. The league presented its most significant set of details today, outlining the thirty five person traveling parties, quarantine scenarios, COVID nineteen testing, and accommodation assignments. THEMMAY also pledged to make social justice work a priority, so that's great to hear, and we'll see what they have in store for that. So, guys, trying to keep up with the specific details that were being tweeted out last night by different NBA reporters was sort of next to impossible. It was also high comedy because each tweet got wilder and wilder the more we learned. I won't go through everything, but you know, we had people tweeting that players are gonna have the option to wear a proximity alarm and then anyone who tests positive for the virus must immediately enter isolation housing, and ball boys will have to wear masks, referees won't and there's gonna be a magic band, whatever the hell that is, and you can't bring your dog and oh doubles in ping pong. It went on and on and on. So a lot too unpacked here, But tass, what was your biggest takeaway from all the tweets you saw and the deep dive I'm sure that you did with this memo.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was not getting any sleep last night in bed, just flicking Twitter up and up and up, and waiting to see what came next.
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Speaker 1: Flicking the twits.
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Speaker 3: Who's flicking the twits. There's there's definitely a lot of groups of people we have to worry about, the families coming in, the employees at Disney, the coaching staff, and employees for the teams. But I want to start with the players because I was worried that they were going to leave the bubble. But they ain't leaving that bubble. I think it's just too fun in that bubble and not to be sort of a glib here because there's things to worry about as far as people contracting the virus. But I was worried that players were going to leave the bubble to get their haircuts. There's barbers there, not just barbers. There's manicurists, pedicurus, you get your feet done, you get your hands done.
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Speaker 2: A lot of Harry Bax though task no backwaxers on the West.
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Speaker 3: No waxing. But I think the players have everything they need inside there. I think that's being accommodated pretty well. And Shams laid out that there can be punishments if you decide to leave. Failure to comply will result in warning, fine, suspension and or removal from the campus. So this is all very serious, and I think from that party we can get into the other groups here. But they really have number one, no reason to leave. Number two. I think for all of us, it makes life easier when you have these sort of benchmarks, things to look forward to. So they get to their cities, they get to look forward to Orlando when they get there, and a quarantine period and getting out of that quarantine period, which is probably a couple of days in their hotel room. Then they get to see their teammates on the practice floor. Then they get to see the other teams in their hotel. We'll talk about those hotels that all separate teams are in. But I think there's these sort of little benchmarks. Then their families come if they advance past the first round, and that kind of helped them mentally. And so I think to start the players, it was a worry, and you said the hotline there off the top skeets. You can call on a player, You can snitch on them if you want, if he does leave the bubble. But I don't see them leaving the bubble. This is all being taken very seriously.
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Speaker 4: I can see they come playoff time, someone trying to set up one of the opponents and say, hey, listen, why don't.
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Speaker 5: You just go outside and grab the pizza for me.
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Speaker 4: They go outside and then someone calls Adam Silver says, hey, look, Jannis just went outside the bubble, get rid of him. He's done for the playoffs and he's not allowed back in.
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Speaker 5: You know, that's how they might work against each other like that.
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Speaker 4: But really the thing that sort of sticks out to me though, is that, you know, they're trying to enforce the social distancing and people should be wearing masks except for when they're working out. So to me, it doesn't really there's not a whole lot of point in enforcing that on the plays if then they're going out and then they're going to be sweating all over and banging into each other anyway, you know, like, if they're going to be that close to each other, to then say, well, when they're not practicing, they have to maintain that social distancing, I think I don't think that's really gonna make any difference, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: People immediately are like, why in the hell can't they play doubles in ping pong but they can play five on five, you know, compete on basketball. That part is a little straight.
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Speaker 2: Yet, prior to the memo coming out a Western conference, Ezach had told Tom Haberstrow that this isn't a bubble, this is a mess hat. And I would say that furthermore, this is a trucker hat because it's got a real eye catching design up front, and you know most trucker hats. The front of it is very big. This is a very big memo. But in the back there are definitely a lot of holes. You know, we don't know if the barbers, if the manicurists, the pedicurists.
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Speaker 3: Are part of the bubble.
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Speaker 2: We know that some Disney employees will be able to leave the bubble and come back in, and there will be different levels of testing depending on that. It seems as if the NBA thought of everything. It definitely feels like there's a wow, you know, they've thought enough to bring a whole bunch of packs of cards. That being said, the entire operation is a humongous risk, but I do think that they are doing their best to try and mitigate things while they're there. Just the fact they're there is the risky idea though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw a Ziller right this morning too. The manual does not describe what level of outbreak would lead to the NBA to shut down play right, I mean, we know, if someone tests positive where they're gonna go, you know, the isolation housing, then they've got to you know, come back negative two times in the span of like, you know, outside of twenty four hours both of those tests. But like, what does happen if there's a lot of guys on one team or teams, or the hotel there's one particular hotel, this spread and stuff like that. Yeah, they're like, the NBA is just like despite a like coronavirus tests and people testing positive soaring in the area over the last couple of days, and even I think just now before we jumped on here news of the Orlando International Airport, like over half of the workers tested positive of all their employees. They're like, YIMMI is just hoping, hoping that they can get as many of these guys in there safe quarantine them. And then yeah, there's not too many people coming in from the outside world, but there are, I mean there they're going to be. They literally are saying that that not all the employees are there too. Yeah, three months.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the worry for me. It's definitely the people who are working there. And when this plan started to be mapped out, everything was pretty good in Orange County and Orlando as far as the cases went. But now you see outbreaks in areas all over the country where there's something happening in the county, then it just spreads everywhere. Now in Orange County, like you said, Skeets, there are tons of cases. So to me that like the players after their quarantine, they are tested every day, they will be watched. They are only going to be hanging out with each other, and and they shouldn't see Disney staff apparently, like the people who clean their rooms, the people who make their food. But yeah, I think I think that faction, you know, besides the teams, besides the families coming later, it's the Disney staff because according to the report, they will not be required to reside at the NBA campus and will not undergo testing, but they'll be screened each day for temperature and for symptoms, and temperature isn't a good indicator. You can be asymptomatic. You don't have to have a fever to have it. But then Keith Smith, who is the first person to come up with this Disney plan way back when he tweeted, per Walt Disney source, we may still have cast members who stay on property during the NBA stay. Those deals are still being finalized, so it's it's it's odd because it's still not completed. And they should be wearing masks. Like Tray said about the pedicurists and the manicurists, two words I had never ever said before for until today, those people should be wearing masks. And those people and the barbers will be the only ones, I think you know of those Disney staff really coming in close contact with the players. But if they're not staying on campus, which is still unclear, it it doesn't really make sense. I mean, it's not really a sealed bubble. Like I'm okay with the players banging and all that because I think they are tested. And yeah, the doubles thing is weird, but that's my biggest concern out of reading all this stuff. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Even in the memo, there is language that says a small or expected number of cases won't require a restart, which means that they are expecting cases to pop up at some point in this campus. It's just a matter of how many would actually cause the league to shut down the season. Again, we have no idea about that sort of information. You know, if it's kind of like an equivalent infection rate inside the campus as it is in Orange County, that could be up to one hundred cases inside the bubble. That seems see to me to think that there would be one hundred cases and they would still be okay with it, just because it kind of mirrors the outside. Ten cases seems like it would be a lot to me, but I don't know. Apparently they have some sort of benchmark that they're going to follow in probably it'll be a sliding scale as things continue for the next six weeks.
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Speaker 4: The other thing interesting is that player guests who arrive, if they choose to leave, then they're not allowed to return, which is kind of weird when you think that the workers do come and go kind of freely, Like why would they restrict guests who have to leave. Maybe there's some sort of emergency they have to have to go for, and then if they want to come back they can't. That seems a little bit odd to me because if you just do the same testing and the same protocol they should be allowed to return. I think it's just weird. I think if you're going to put that rule in place for the player guests, but not even for the own workers who are going to be coming in and out across maybe over the course of two or three months.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I you know, one of the tagaways from this that I'm fascinated to see how each team approaches is this travel party and this group of thirty five people basically your franchise, your organization can bring and that includes the players. So we know that the teams must travel with at least one senior executive, they have to have an athletic trainer, a strength and conditioning coach, an equipment manager, and then a team security official. And then teams must bring at least thirteen players and up to a maximum of seventeen, and that can include two way players. But again, if these twenty two teams returning to play, they've got to submit they're thirty five people roster if you want to call it that, to the NBA by July first, and it's like wow, it's like they're it's going to be almost sort of interesting in a weird way to see what's the mix. What's the right mix of number of players to coaches, to support staff, to the medical staff. I'm fascinated by a lot of that because you know, Seam says each team can include like a personal trainer and a massage therapist and more security. But like that into your numbers. So you're bringing a personal trainer, a private personal trainer, well maybe you're dropping a coach or something, an assistant coach or something like that. So that's gonna be wild. Because I kept thinking about this, like Doc rivers the whole win the weight that they kept talking about during this suspension of play and then these guys all being off and if we win the weight, we can win the title. But now I want to twist that to win the wult because all of these weird health and safety protocols and what you can and can't do and all of this and who you can bring and stuff like that. It's like, who's going to like tackle this correctly? This is very important, even down to like food options and stuff like that. It's like who can win the vault now? So then maybe going to wain the Tell's crazy stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can outsmart other teams. Maybe Malika Andrews of ESPN tweeted, you know, among those thirty five employees that you're bringing as a team, the NBA suggested that you bring a mental health clinician or at least be a able to have access via telehealth, just to have somebody to talk to for stress and anxiety purposes. So yeah, I think that's one up that they can have on another team. And another thing is, you know, I found this a little strange. All the food is going to be created on site. It's gonna be made on site, but at a player's own expense. A players permitted to hire a personal chef located outside of the NBA campus to prepare and send food into the NBA campus. Another advantage that you can have, Oh, you know, you don't have your your regular chef. Let's say Kawhi doesn't have his regular chef. If if Doc Rivers isn't winning the Walt but Lebron is advantage Lakers.
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Speaker 1: You know something we talked about. We were talking about whether they would have their own personal chef there. So the answer is no, but sort of yes, your personal chef can send in food.
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Speaker 4: But that's a thing like who's bringing that food in? That that person.
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Speaker 5: Drones, drones are dropping exactly. It's it's just it just seems weird.
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Speaker 4: I mean, look this again, it's it's hard for the NBA to get everything right because again, you know, they try to do the best they can. But I guess they don't want to have to say to the employees, like you have to stay in here as well. Locked in here, you can go home with your families. I guess that's what they're trying to do to make it work. But it just seems that like there's just a few little loopholes in here that will still increase the risk of someone who has the virus coming in almost undetected, maybe asymptomatic, and being able to spread it before anyone has a chance to sort.
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Speaker 5: Of to detect it.
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Speaker 4: That's I think the biggest concern here that you know, again you've talked already about the Orlando Airport having you know, half of the employees they're already testing positive. Well, you know what happens if that's the family member of somebody who's working in the campus. They go home tonight they didn't realize I had it, and then they go into the campus tomorrow without showing any symptoms.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's the thing they're helping. The testing catches it. But yeah, we're all agreeing that it's not foolproof.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: Well, just even with the testing. I know Tas said earlier there that they're testing day, but apparently they're not going to be tested every day. They're going to be tested regularly, so that might mean not necessarily every single day, And they've figured out a way to get remove that really nasty swab, but right up the nose. They've got other ways of doing it as well. So you hope that those tests are accurate enough as well so that the players, you know, they're not showing false positives or the other way around. So yeah, I mean, there's so many little things that could go wrong, but I guess that the whole plan is to have as much of it covered as possibly and then deal with the consequences should something go wrong.
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Speaker 1: Well, Trey, I wanted to ask you, you know, we see or we get a lot of the details at least of this over one hundred page memo, and did it give you more confidence in this actually working or oddly less confidence because you're like there are so many details that you're like, oh, yeah, that could blow up in their face. I mean, I'm glad they thought about it, but oh yeah, that's a step that could go wrong. More confidence are less confidence in now knowing what the whole safety protocol is.
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Speaker 2: I've honestly been going back and forth on it the entire time. It reminds me of when I was like, I don't know, I was probably ten years old. My dad told us we were going to Wisconsin. We all got in the car, and then he surprised us and said.
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Speaker 1: We're going to Disney World.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, this is awesome, man, But shouldn't we tell our mom? Who thinks we're going to Wisconsin. You know, it's like it's a real catch twenty two on are we doing the right thing or are we trying to have fun here? Because when you read all of the regulations that the players have, and you know how, it seems that they are basically treating this like NBA households right, Like you can hang out with the people in your house. If you see your neighbors outside, you can say hello to him. Maybe eventually you'll be able to visit your friends outside. All of that makes sense to me because it's similar to how we are actually living in the world. But then when you consider the bigger picture of it, everybody coming in together, that's the part that really gives me pause for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, look, the truth is, like any you know, big group of people, are you gonna be able to trust everybody to actually follow these protocols? Like like you were saying, like, if you're gonna meet your buddy from the other hotel, you got to sit outside. You know, you're not you can't go into his room. There's like absolutely no going into somebody else's room. Like you buy that everybody's going to actually follow these rules because I don't know frickin' way.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, how are they going to police that? I mean?
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Speaker 4: And what what is the risk anyway of doing that? If again, you're going to be spending so much time around the other guy's doing all these other activities where you know, apparently there's bowling, and there's you know, and the and the.
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Speaker 5: Ping pong stuff.
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Speaker 4: So if you're that close to me, and what difference does it make if you go into somebody's room?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, I wanted to ask you. Let's say you put yourself in an NBA player's position. I know, you like to do that. What do you think entertainment wise? Okay, so we know that each hotel is going to have a player's only lounge with NBA TVs and arcade games and ping pong tables, and there's like outdoor space because these are like resorts basically, so you got pool access and you can have spots, we can play cards, and there's fishing, golfing and bowling and boating and bike riding and running and all this stuff. And I think there's even like Disney's Animal Kingdom and Disney's Wild Africa Trek are going to be accessible. Lee, are you if you're looking at just the pure entertainment of being there for three months? I mean, we go to Vegas and nearly die for two weeks. But what are your thoughts on having enough to do? Like Task was saying, Task seems like, oh, you know, there's a lot there. You know, there's not a lot of reason you would have to leave outside of a family emergency.
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Speaker 5: What do you think, Yeah, yeah, no, there is.
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Speaker 4: I mean, why don't they make a little side event called the Decathlon NBA Decathlon and have everyone compete in these events and then yeah, then you can award someone else that champion at the end of it. But all these events youre talk about, you know, like arcade games, I mean, they're highly contagious. Every of everyone's touching those the joysticks and things like that. I hope there's go karting down there, because that's one of the safest social distancing sports. You know, you've got your helmet on, when you've got your whole suit on and you're certainly not going to be in each other's face.
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Speaker 5: That'd be one to have.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean they have to make sure that players have just got enough to distract themselves, and it certainly sounds like they're going to have fun. But also the other thing is once your team is done that you've got to leave basically the next day as well, you're out of there. So that is that is at least their way of trying to limit it. But I think this comes back to having more teams rather than than less teams. I think they should have sort of probably cut it off a little bit earlier. But yeah, I mean, so like normal tourists though won't be there. I'm guessing is that being made clear.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the artist.
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Speaker 2: I think that Disney World is going to be opening pretty soon, and they're even going to be having guests in the Grand Floridian by the time that the NBA arrives.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's see, that seems that just seems crazy unless there's somehow the people are going to be tested as well every day, you know, I mean, because how are you going to how are you going to prevent anybody like someone's going to see see Lebron and go up money to get a selfie and want to get close to him and an autograph, you know, normal sort of things that people do. If they if they were all of a sudden in this hotel and they see tons and tons of star or NBA players, that's going to create an atmosphere that the NBA would you would think, would want to avoid at all costs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't think I don't think Joe Schmoe is going to be in the same hotel at the time the NBA is in that hotel. I mean there's I mean, there will be employees, So I'm sure their employees are going to be just a psych to see Lebron James and yeah, and try and run up on them. But I guess the idea is like someone calls the hotline and that guy's fired or she's fired there. Yeah, I don't know, Like seriously, they're gonna have to follow these rules or it's all for nut And I'm with you, Skates.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to actually trust an entire group of sixteen hundred people to follow the rules one hundred percent. But I think that, I mean, that is why that they have all of these amenities at Disney World, right, so that there's less of a reason to leave. Plus they have the threat of that this will suck rule. If you do leave the bubble, you're getting the long swap up your nose. They're basically using that as punishment. They're like, we're going to stick something into your brain if you leave this bubble, and then we're going to quarantine you for two weeks, and we're also going to docupay for missing games. They're doing things to disincentivize people to leave the bubble, which you know, I guess is probably as much as they actually can do.
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Speaker 1: Tas Uh. There's an interesting wrinkle to our team, the Toronto Raptors. I don't know if it's an advantage or a disadvantage, so I'm interested to hear your tech. They're going to be the lone NBA team when these feeses kick off here that is going to travel to Florida for training camp in Phez one. Obviously being in Canada and having their own set of rules and stuff like that, they want to eliminate extra quarantining and all that and traveling across the border, so they're going straight to Florida in Phez I sort of ahead of all the other teams, good or bad. I don't know any opinion on.
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Speaker 3: That probably bad, probably just being there for a longer period of time. I know there's lots of amenities and lots of stuff to do, but I'm sure it'll wear on guys from being there from you know, sort of late July or late June, I should say, until the games really get started five weeks later, and then the playoffs start two and a half weeks after that, so it's a long time, and then your family won't be there until you know, you'd probably be there two months without your family because I'm assuming the Toronto Raptors make the second round of the playoffs when the families arrive, I say, it's not a good thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sort of with you on that too. There's more you've got to be there, the worse it probably is. But on the other hand, maybe you get like a oddly a bit of a jump start on conditioning and and sort of working out. But the other teams will be doing that anyway, just in their own sort of facilities.
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Speaker 3: So get the best PlayStation, get the best hotel room, potentially steal a chair from Yeah, apparently they're getting king sized beds brought in there. That shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, it goes take something from somebody else's hotel room that you need, like a better desk area. Maybe your outlet doesn't work in your room. Got to figure something out. It's an advantage there. But yeah, I thought the same, Thanks Keats, And I was like, more time, probably not, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean, this really is like the longest AAU trip of all time for these guys, Like they're going back in time here to when they're playing the AAU ball and doing these tournaments. That's really what it's turning into. And I want to say this without coming off offensive, because I understand how detailed this had to be, and you want to err on the side of caution. I get all that before I say this, but it was almost and I wonder how NBA players feel almost embarrassing reading some of this, and maybe I'm alone and having this opinion and just in how like I don't know, like with all what's going on in the world that we're literally getting into this minutia of like, well, don't worry, the cards will be thrown out, don't worry. You might be able to bring in a comedian for something like just of course, like just pampered to the nth degree and that's fine. I mean, you're asking them to be there for a long time. I get it. But am I alone in that thinking there was like it was sort of like I guess it was a little icky just in the in like, wow, wow, they are they are bending over backwards to make this, uh, to make money basically for everybody. I get it, but I don't know. Maybe I'm alone.
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Speaker 3: Hmmm, Well, I think either either you either you do the whole memo and you do it detailed like this, or you just don't do it at all, you don't show up at all. Yeah, So I can see why there's a hell of a lot more important things going on in the world, and you can look at it that way, like who the hell cares if you know, Kyrie Irving has another deck of cards to play with. But at the same time, they definitely would have been ridiculed if it wasn't detailed. And I am interested to see what is talking about the social justice issues, how they collaborate the NBA and the MVPA to do as much as they possibly can to make that a top priority when they get down there, because I think that's an ongoing conversation. So that's you know, I'm okay with all the details. To be honest, I'd rather do it. And I think as far as this, like the last three months or have sort of been preparation for the upcoming next few months, and that players were outside and not hanging inside with with people. So I think that that that sort of stuff is wearing masks and all that is just good prep for them. And I think, you know, all these all these people who will be wearing masks, let's actually just go through quickly. Ben Gulliver listed, Yeah, everyone who will or won't have to wear masks.
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Speaker 1: Each during the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, during the game, that's right. Yeah, each team's first row do not have to wear masks. Players or coaches second row, so other players and coaches, guys who are sitting out, Yeah, you have to wear masks. Trainers have to wear masks. Referees no, scores, table yes, ball boys yes, statiician, pa, announcer no. Other teams staff, your towel man yes, cameraman yes, Arena staff yes, media guess and owners yes. And actually we didn't talk about players can go visit and attend other guys or other teams games.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: Strange Yeah, yeah, didn't.
00:30:33
Speaker 3: See that coming. Lebron can go Scout could be fun.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people are actually excited about that idea, like from a you know, an entertainment television broadcast. Would be pretty crazy to see. Yeah, Jannis is playing whoever in the first round and Lebron's just sitting there staring you know, scout. Let me. You know they're going to those shots if he's there for crying out loud, even if he does have a mask on, you'll still you know, thing is said through the eyes, says Lee. So yeah, no, that's.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Surprised to see that there's even a PA announcer for this.
00:31:08
Speaker 1: What are they announcing? Yeah, two minutes.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Remaining in a quarter. I mean I suppose that's the most important thing. Otherwise it's subs and you know, or we're gonna notice who's coming into the games.
00:31:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't know the game. Yeah, the whole game itself is going to just be fascinating with all of these the mass on a lot of these players and on people not playing excuse me, and just being there and how many will be there and yeah, will these other teams be in attendance watching and scouting, like task said, how serious do they take it? Who knows? JD got to get your opinion on this again from Keith Smith, who is all over this and was the first really to even predict or throw out the idea of going to Disney World report JD. Disney will make movies available for players and their families once they join. This is likely to include movies that have not been released to the general public, including Marvel's Black Widow. Yeah, what do you think?
00:32:04
Speaker 6: Oh, I need to get in that bubble.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see that movie. It looks awesome.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Really.
00:32:11
Speaker 6: Yeah. That that's Scarlet right, yeah, uh, Scarlett Johansson The Black Widow, and it's got the Stranger Things guy David Harbor.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, sushi place once here in Atlanta. Yeah, and then he disappeared. I told this story no, like it was so weird. Uh, Nor did I. Nor of course spots him, and I'm brutal at that. She's like, I'm pretty sure that's the guy from Stranger Things, and I think they shoot a lot of it down here in Atlanta, And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's him. That's him. He's just sitting by himself at the sushi bar, and he's sort of like, there's no way he can leave the place without going by us, and not that we I wasn't gonna say, I'm not gonna ask for a photo. I don't care that much. But we're like getting up. We like we're there for a while. He hasn't left, like okay, just like sort of pop my head back in there, because he sort of just tucked around the corn. He was gone. He somehow vanished.
00:33:06
Speaker 3: Where were you?
00:33:08
Speaker 1: Uh mfu.
00:33:10
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, there's only one way in and out, although they do have a patio door there, so you yeah, that's true.
00:33:17
Speaker 1: That's true. Maybe he did sneak out there, or maybe he went into the upside down world or something. Perhaps the dem gorgan got him. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's okay. You're excited about this movie report here.
00:33:30
Speaker 6: Well, I'm very excited about it, but it really I'm not gonna try to get into that bubble and leave my family for three months.
00:33:37
Speaker 1: You don't want to to see a Marvel movie.
00:33:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do remember, you can go and then leave, you know, you don't have to stay the whole time.
00:33:44
Speaker 6: So I feel like I would have to stay though it would just I would be obligated. Can you imagine if I went and the rest of you guys didn't go.
00:33:58
Speaker 1: Lee, We also again this one from Keith Smith that from his sources, his Disney World sources. Now is it goofy? I'm not sure. I don't know who's who's given all this stuff to Keith. Outside entertainment might may be brought in to this stuff too into the campus. Now those details are still being negotiated, but this could include bands, DJs, and comedians. So I'm just wondering, Lee, if you were in charge of entertainment, which band are you bringing in? Like you've got that, you've got the third Wednesday, you get to book it. Who's coming in?
00:34:31
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going with the Red Hot Chili Peppers because you know Flee. You know Flee would absolutely love to be down there. He might even be there anyway, he might be there. He's a big basketball fan, a big Lakers fan.
00:34:44
Speaker 1: Have a sock dangling of.
00:34:47
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
00:34:48
Speaker 4: And Anthony Ketas Yeah, I saw him at the finals last year, So you know that they're big basketball fans. Now they're gonna put on a show. I wonder how many basketball fans are Red Hot Chili Peppers fans like NBA players.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine it's that I don't know.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I don't know what percent show me a lot more in nineteen ninety.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: Six than I would guess.
00:35:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But anyway, I think I think would be good. You know, they put on a good show. I just my problem with them is they just don't interact with the crowd all that much. But maybe it'll be different when this surrounded by NBA plays, you know, it's a bit closer perhaps, But yeah, would they have to wear a mask? I guess not. I guess not if.
00:35:30
Speaker 1: You can make a mask of a sock I saw at right.
00:35:34
Speaker 2: I do wonder if the entertainment will also be held to the Disney standard. Right, it's a very family friendly place, so I don't know. Maybe an adult comedian isn't allowed in Disney. I imagine I'll make exceptions for the NBA.
00:35:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will see. The Other thing that's interesting from all of this, just sort of going back to the to the geeky basketball numbers, is that we're hearing reports that the NBA and maybe even Players Association, they want to allow players potentially that are in line for a max contract extension to sign that deal prior to the resumption of the season, versus having to wait for the obseas. We're talking like guys like Bam and Donovan Mitchell and Jason Tatum, like these guys that are in line for these big, big max contracts, and maybe the idea that they sign them in advances it. You think that's a good idea, so they don't risk you know, of course, being injured in this restarting like Mitchell had talked about, and then possibly blowing a huge payday.
00:36:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hadn't heard that, but yeah, I guess it is a good idea. Why the heck not, especially for those you mentioned those three those are three guys who are going to get max deals.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's really for those obvious max guys. Lee agree with that, Like why not really?
00:36:50
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:36:50
Speaker 5: Yeah?
00:36:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly for the players, I mean, they don't want to have any any possible risks that they blow at and they or something and it just gets put on hold. I wonder though, if the teams and the owners will go for that though, because for the opposite reason, I mean, they maybe don't want to have to commit that money. Now, see how it goes. I mean, it's I don't know, I don't know what the right solution will be for that, because that's kind of changing a rule certainly to suit the players. It gives them more of a benefit than it does the owners, unless you're the owner and you want to lock up your guy for sure. But because then they're all on restricted free agency, those guys anyway, so they're not really they're not really free agents in that sense.
00:37:27
Speaker 5: So yeah, an interesting little wrinkle there.
00:37:30
Speaker 4: I mean, that's one thing that is going to be fascinating to see just what next year's salary cap is anyway, you know. I mean when you think about what happened at the start of the season with the China stuff, and now all the income they've missed out from the remainder of this season. I mean, it could be seventy million dollars next year the cap, who knows, I mean, based on basketball related income. I mean, it's that's going to be incredible to see how they figure that out and just how it looks for the next couple of seasons going forward.
00:37:59
Speaker 3: I think those three guys you mentioned, though, even if they get injured, they're still signing max contracts anyways possible, right, It's and stuff like that.
00:38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, JD. There are reports interesting to get your take on this one too, that be it outside parties, maybe ESPN themselves, the NBA, whatever, thinking of like sort of recording this, you know, documenting this bubble ball. I was tweeting and calling it last night on Twitter thirty for thirty bubble ball. What do you think that's a no brainer, like just this calling an experiment if you will, and just having just a cast of characters that are in the NBA as it is being now all put around each other in this very weird sort of ponderosa like atmosphere to bring it back to survivor that they should be doing that, you think, even if it means bringing other people to record that.
00:38:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I mean what again, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to have, as you say, bubble ball and take it one step further. If the Red Hot Chili Peppers do show up, you know, that's an intimate con concert event that I would watch on Netflix. If Dave Chappelle comes in to do an intimate like little set one night in the night club, It's like it's like putting everybody on a cruise ship, you know, like yeah, and uh and just seeing all the interaction and uh yeah, one hundred percent it would be a blown opportunity if they didn't do that.
00:39:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they'll they'll definitely be doing that. The money that they'll try and just recoup on that alone, yeah, is a no brainer. Yeah.
00:39:34
Speaker 3: I think there'll be some serious Instagram lives from players as well, you know.
00:39:38
Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, period, Yeah, for.
00:39:41
Speaker 3: Sure, some point of view Kingpong going on.
00:39:44
Speaker 2: You know, this is a massive marketing undertaking though for Disney as well, Like you guys are saying, they are going to be documenting it somehow, no surprise, I would imagine it won't just be Disney. There will probably be several documentaries that come out of this. But they are also hoping that this goes so well that the NBA will want to host future events at Disney as well, including a play in tournament including you know, they would do it for other sports as well, perhaps MLS, WNBA, those sort of things. Disney is getting a lot out of this happening.
00:40:17
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, They're.
00:40:20
Speaker 2: Even crazy that it's like that they want to turn over the hotel rooms that the teams who are eliminated from the season. They want to turn those over so that paying guests are able to be in there, which is why the players actually have to pay for their guest hotel rooms.
00:40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, look how many times we've just said Disney in this podcast alone them? Yeah, yeah, right, they're not paying us. We're not seeing that Mickey money. But yep, we will see here again, let's hear from you guys, your listeners out there. After getting a lot of these details from this memo, do you have more confidence in this working? Less confidence? Is this pure insanity? Now? After getting all this is this? Hey, you gotta go through every little detail, every possibility of things happening. They answered some of Henry Abbot's questions, not all of them, but you know some of course. You can see why this took so long. I will uh give the NBA, I'll give the lead credit for that. You know, we were like, where are where is this? Come on? Where you gotta get on this? Like what are the safety protocols? Well, holy crap, you know they're going this this detail. No wonder it took this long to eventually see something, I mean, wild stuff. I'm I'm also like intrigued about these uh basketball problematic activities that they want to like, you know, spitting and licking your hands and wiping the ball with their jerseys and stuff like that. How they like you just get a warning and then the second time, hey, sir, stop grabbing the ball and talking to it and licking it or whatever you do. Like that's a tech, you know, Like, well they have to get that extreme with this stuff because that stuff it's just second nature for athletes too. I mean, like, okay, maybe not spitting that one's always been weird to me, spinning on a basketball, but you know, licking your hands or whatever, wiping your hands on of course your face and around that, that's just what you do because you're you're playing sports. That's I don't know how they take that out of just their day to day basketball playing, but maybe they get maybe they get warned or something. Who knows. Gout.
00:42:16
Speaker 2: I do feel like you're gonna see a lot of that on Twitter, though, because you know, people will break down how many steps a guy took on a fast break layup. I'm sure we're gonna see super cuts of you know, we did it for the starters back in the day. He Turculu licking his hands a thousand times during a game. We're gonna see supercuts of that, and then it'll be like, how come it would be called the hotline on this guy?
00:42:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. It's exactly anything else tasks that you wanted to address here from this memo, I.
00:42:42
Speaker 3: Think we got a hold on. Let me check page ninety nine, paragraph two, Section three. No, I think we covered everything. I think that, Yeah, the worries are Disney employees coming in and out, who again, they'll be wearing masks. But if the surrounding areas got a lot of positive tests happening, which again, when they started playing this it wasn't happening, but Florida cases on the rise greatly, and especially in this area, so that's a big worry. And I think the guests coming in, I don't think we mentioned that they have to come in. The player's guests have to come in self quarantined for three days, get tested, and are hanging out sort of isolated on the NBA campus. And I think they did pretty well there with the guests. But yeah, I like the laying out of all the rules so you don't break those rules but I think as there's more pressure probably applied the next six weeks, I think we'll see more and more Disney employees have to hang out on the property for as long as possible and we go from there. But I think those people as well have been I'm sure you know, if they're working in some capacity at Disney, I know that they've been closed, but they also have been going undergoing those protocols. I think this, even those these three months have helped, you know, build a bit of a trial period. But the really worrisome part is everything exploding around in terms of contractions. So that's that's scary, and it's still six weeks away. But also they'll be down there in a few weeks.
00:44:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:44:17
Speaker 2: Well, for sure, a lot of thought and effort obviously has been put into the safety.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: Protocols for this.
00:44:23
Speaker 2: As you guys are saying, this is a massive document with a whole bunch of details. I hope that the next time we get an update from the League, it's a similarly detailed memo for how they do plan to bring attention and sustained action to issues of social injustice, which they mentioned in the memo. Avery Bradley told Malika Andrews. We don't need to say more. We need to find a way to achieve more protesting during an anthem.
00:44:46
Speaker 1: Wearing T shirts is.
00:44:48
Speaker 2: Great, but we need to see real actions being put into works. You know, the social justice movement in the NBA has been around for decades, obviously, but after the Kyrie Irving call of last week, it's it's certainly been in the forefront of people's minds. So hopefully they're able to give the same thought and consideration to how the players, the league, the governors can raise money, can start some sort of fun can actually be dedicated to combating systemic racism. Hopefully we see a similar memo in the future before the teams actually make their way to Orlando.
00:45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I hope we see that all right. Well, later today Trey is going to talk to Disney expert Carle weisell a lot more questions about this bubble idea at Disney World, and she seems like the perfect person to get some answers from. She is a Disney expert. I was checking out her website last night and I was like, my god, I thought I knew a lot about the NBA. This person knows ten thousand times more about Disney than I'll ever know about the NBA. So Carly will be on with Trey one on one, you know, get into the bottom of questions like have they done this before Disney World, like similar large events, and what are the scouting reports for each of those hotels because there's three of them? And why does Robin Lopez want to be in the yacht club you know, and all this so that should be fun.
00:46:09
Speaker 2: So yeah, she apparently ate a fifteen thousand dollars meal at Disney World, so maybe we'll be able to get into the luxury aspects.
00:46:16
Speaker 1: Of things there.
00:46:17
Speaker 2: You know, this is not going to be the standard Disney experience for a bunch of millionaires, so they're getting the upgraded levels.
00:46:24
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's coming out later today here on Wednesday, so keep your eyes and your ears out for that one in our No Dunks podcast feed one on one with Disney expert Carly Weisel tomorrow. We pushed it back a day obviously, we usually do it on Wednesday, but we'll hit the beach tomorrow. Thursday hit the beach, so you still have a little bit more time to get your questions and your comments in. Maybe you got some about what we just talked about here with this health and safety memo that the NBA released yesterday and then on Friday, I'm almost I'm hesitant to say it, but we are going to get to this fun squad episode we have in mind. All right, we are going to finally record and release the Squad episode. That's the plan at least for Friday. But who knows this.
00:47:06
Speaker 6: Is going to be at a new bank robbery Jones.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: Yeah no, Look, Friday I think is the one hundredth day of the NBA shutdown in response to the coronavirus outbreak. So you know what, we'll have to bump the squad and do something special.
00:47:20
Speaker 5: For the one hundred.
00:47:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll rank every day one through one hundred since then.
00:47:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the podcasts are coming fast and furious. Get your questions at no dunks at the Athletic dot com. Follow us on Twitter at no dunks, Inc. Same goes for Instagram and uh well now I don't want to hear Garth right now, but you know we're on Facebook, all right. Clipper bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome, Thanks.
00:47:41
Speaker 3: For joining us, and remember Raptors fans don't even think about calling Yanni Static Kumpo's room at the Grand Destino, Room four two one to wake him up every single day.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people, day every day, and a ye happy every minute. It's been so long that you're the fun.
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Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be goody
Speaker 1: Morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, June seventeenth, and we now have a better idea of what life inside the NBA bubble is going to be like. I'm Jay Skeets and joining us on our very own anonymous hotline tas Mellice, Hey everybody, Hey Taxy. We also got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey out Hey, the international man of Mystery, taking it to the Max Leellis friend, and last, but not least, making this magic happen.
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Speaker 2: JD.
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Speaker 1: Hello, there he is and here we are. Yesterday, the NBA sent all of its players a health and safety manual ahead of the resumption of the twenty nineteen twenty season at Disney World. This thing is apparently a damn book, and our boys Sham's had it first up on the Athletic According to the movie, Nights, DJ sets and long games will be a part of the NBA's return to play. I hope that includes spike Ball. The league presented its most significant set of details today, outlining the thirty five person traveling parties, quarantine scenarios, COVID nineteen testing, and accommodation assignments. THEMMAY also pledged to make social justice work a priority, so that's great to hear, and we'll see what they have in store for that. So, guys, trying to keep up with the specific details that were being tweeted out last night by different NBA reporters was sort of next to impossible. It was also high comedy because each tweet got wilder and wilder the more we learned. I won't go through everything, but you know, we had people tweeting that players are gonna have the option to wear a proximity alarm and then anyone who tests positive for the virus must immediately enter isolation housing, and ball boys will have to wear masks, referees won't and there's gonna be a magic band, whatever the hell that is, and you can't bring your dog and oh doubles in ping pong. It went on and on and on. So a lot too unpacked here, But tass, what was your biggest takeaway from all the tweets you saw and the deep dive I'm sure that you did with this memo.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was not getting any sleep last night in bed, just flicking Twitter up and up and up, and waiting to see what came next.
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Speaker 1: Flicking the twits.
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Speaker 3: Who's flicking the twits. There's there's definitely a lot of groups of people we have to worry about, the families coming in, the employees at Disney, the coaching staff, and employees for the teams. But I want to start with the players because I was worried that they were going to leave the bubble. But they ain't leaving that bubble. I think it's just too fun in that bubble and not to be sort of a glib here because there's things to worry about as far as people contracting the virus. But I was worried that players were going to leave the bubble to get their haircuts. There's barbers there, not just barbers. There's manicurists, pedicurus, you get your feet done, you get your hands done.
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Speaker 2: A lot of Harry Bax though task no backwaxers on the West.
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Speaker 3: No waxing. But I think the players have everything they need inside there. I think that's being accommodated pretty well. And Shams laid out that there can be punishments if you decide to leave. Failure to comply will result in warning, fine, suspension and or removal from the campus. So this is all very serious, and I think from that party we can get into the other groups here. But they really have number one, no reason to leave. Number two. I think for all of us, it makes life easier when you have these sort of benchmarks, things to look forward to. So they get to their cities, they get to look forward to Orlando when they get there, and a quarantine period and getting out of that quarantine period, which is probably a couple of days in their hotel room. Then they get to see their teammates on the practice floor. Then they get to see the other teams in their hotel. We'll talk about those hotels that all separate teams are in. But I think there's these sort of little benchmarks. Then their families come if they advance past the first round, and that kind of helped them mentally. And so I think to start the players, it was a worry, and you said the hotline there off the top skeets. You can call on a player, You can snitch on them if you want, if he does leave the bubble. But I don't see them leaving the bubble. This is all being taken very seriously.
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Speaker 4: I can see they come playoff time, someone trying to set up one of the opponents and say, hey, listen, why don't.
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Speaker 5: You just go outside and grab the pizza for me.
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Speaker 4: They go outside and then someone calls Adam Silver says, hey, look, Jannis just went outside the bubble, get rid of him. He's done for the playoffs and he's not allowed back in.
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Speaker 5: You know, that's how they might work against each other like that.
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Speaker 4: But really the thing that sort of sticks out to me though, is that, you know, they're trying to enforce the social distancing and people should be wearing masks except for when they're working out. So to me, it doesn't really there's not a whole lot of point in enforcing that on the plays if then they're going out and then they're going to be sweating all over and banging into each other anyway, you know, like, if they're going to be that close to each other, to then say, well, when they're not practicing, they have to maintain that social distancing, I think I don't think that's really gonna make any difference, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: People immediately are like, why in the hell can't they play doubles in ping pong but they can play five on five, you know, compete on basketball. That part is a little straight.
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Speaker 2: Yet, prior to the memo coming out a Western conference, Ezach had told Tom Haberstrow that this isn't a bubble, this is a mess hat. And I would say that furthermore, this is a trucker hat because it's got a real eye catching design up front, and you know most trucker hats. The front of it is very big. This is a very big memo. But in the back there are definitely a lot of holes. You know, we don't know if the barbers, if the manicurists, the pedicurists.
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Speaker 3: Are part of the bubble.
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Speaker 2: We know that some Disney employees will be able to leave the bubble and come back in, and there will be different levels of testing depending on that. It seems as if the NBA thought of everything. It definitely feels like there's a wow, you know, they've thought enough to bring a whole bunch of packs of cards. That being said, the entire operation is a humongous risk, but I do think that they are doing their best to try and mitigate things while they're there. Just the fact they're there is the risky idea though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw a Ziller right this morning too. The manual does not describe what level of outbreak would lead to the NBA to shut down play right, I mean, we know, if someone tests positive where they're gonna go, you know, the isolation housing, then they've got to you know, come back negative two times in the span of like, you know, outside of twenty four hours both of those tests. But like, what does happen if there's a lot of guys on one team or teams, or the hotel there's one particular hotel, this spread and stuff like that. Yeah, they're like, the NBA is just like despite a like coronavirus tests and people testing positive soaring in the area over the last couple of days, and even I think just now before we jumped on here news of the Orlando International Airport, like over half of the workers tested positive of all their employees. They're like, YIMMI is just hoping, hoping that they can get as many of these guys in there safe quarantine them. And then yeah, there's not too many people coming in from the outside world, but there are, I mean there they're going to be. They literally are saying that that not all the employees are there too. Yeah, three months.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the worry for me. It's definitely the people who are working there. And when this plan started to be mapped out, everything was pretty good in Orange County and Orlando as far as the cases went. But now you see outbreaks in areas all over the country where there's something happening in the county, then it just spreads everywhere. Now in Orange County, like you said, Skeets, there are tons of cases. So to me that like the players after their quarantine, they are tested every day, they will be watched. They are only going to be hanging out with each other, and and they shouldn't see Disney staff apparently, like the people who clean their rooms, the people who make their food. But yeah, I think I think that faction, you know, besides the teams, besides the families coming later, it's the Disney staff because according to the report, they will not be required to reside at the NBA campus and will not undergo testing, but they'll be screened each day for temperature and for symptoms, and temperature isn't a good indicator. You can be asymptomatic. You don't have to have a fever to have it. But then Keith Smith, who is the first person to come up with this Disney plan way back when he tweeted, per Walt Disney source, we may still have cast members who stay on property during the NBA stay. Those deals are still being finalized, so it's it's it's odd because it's still not completed. And they should be wearing masks. Like Tray said about the pedicurists and the manicurists, two words I had never ever said before for until today, those people should be wearing masks. And those people and the barbers will be the only ones, I think you know of those Disney staff really coming in close contact with the players. But if they're not staying on campus, which is still unclear, it it doesn't really make sense. I mean, it's not really a sealed bubble. Like I'm okay with the players banging and all that because I think they are tested. And yeah, the doubles thing is weird, but that's my biggest concern out of reading all this stuff. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Even in the memo, there is language that says a small or expected number of cases won't require a restart, which means that they are expecting cases to pop up at some point in this campus. It's just a matter of how many would actually cause the league to shut down the season. Again, we have no idea about that sort of information. You know, if it's kind of like an equivalent infection rate inside the campus as it is in Orange County, that could be up to one hundred cases inside the bubble. That seems see to me to think that there would be one hundred cases and they would still be okay with it, just because it kind of mirrors the outside. Ten cases seems like it would be a lot to me, but I don't know. Apparently they have some sort of benchmark that they're going to follow in probably it'll be a sliding scale as things continue for the next six weeks.
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Speaker 4: The other thing interesting is that player guests who arrive, if they choose to leave, then they're not allowed to return, which is kind of weird when you think that the workers do come and go kind of freely, Like why would they restrict guests who have to leave. Maybe there's some sort of emergency they have to have to go for, and then if they want to come back they can't. That seems a little bit odd to me because if you just do the same testing and the same protocol they should be allowed to return. I think it's just weird. I think if you're going to put that rule in place for the player guests, but not even for the own workers who are going to be coming in and out across maybe over the course of two or three months.
00:10:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. I you know, one of the tagaways from this that I'm fascinated to see how each team approaches is this travel party and this group of thirty five people basically your franchise, your organization can bring and that includes the players. So we know that the teams must travel with at least one senior executive, they have to have an athletic trainer, a strength and conditioning coach, an equipment manager, and then a team security official. And then teams must bring at least thirteen players and up to a maximum of seventeen, and that can include two way players. But again, if these twenty two teams returning to play, they've got to submit they're thirty five people roster if you want to call it that, to the NBA by July first, and it's like wow, it's like they're it's going to be almost sort of interesting in a weird way to see what's the mix. What's the right mix of number of players to coaches, to support staff, to the medical staff. I'm fascinated by a lot of that because you know, Seam says each team can include like a personal trainer and a massage therapist and more security. But like that into your numbers. So you're bringing a personal trainer, a private personal trainer, well maybe you're dropping a coach or something, an assistant coach or something like that. So that's gonna be wild. Because I kept thinking about this, like Doc rivers the whole win the weight that they kept talking about during this suspension of play and then these guys all being off and if we win the weight, we can win the title. But now I want to twist that to win the wult because all of these weird health and safety protocols and what you can and can't do and all of this and who you can bring and stuff like that. It's like, who's going to like tackle this correctly? This is very important, even down to like food options and stuff like that. It's like who can win the vault now? So then maybe going to wain the Tell's crazy stuff.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can outsmart other teams. Maybe Malika Andrews of ESPN tweeted, you know, among those thirty five employees that you're bringing as a team, the NBA suggested that you bring a mental health clinician or at least be a able to have access via telehealth, just to have somebody to talk to for stress and anxiety purposes. So yeah, I think that's one up that they can have on another team. And another thing is, you know, I found this a little strange. All the food is going to be created on site. It's gonna be made on site, but at a player's own expense. A players permitted to hire a personal chef located outside of the NBA campus to prepare and send food into the NBA campus. Another advantage that you can have, Oh, you know, you don't have your your regular chef. Let's say Kawhi doesn't have his regular chef. If if Doc Rivers isn't winning the Walt but Lebron is advantage Lakers.
00:13:40
Speaker 1: You know something we talked about. We were talking about whether they would have their own personal chef there. So the answer is no, but sort of yes, your personal chef can send in food.
00:13:50
Speaker 4: But that's a thing like who's bringing that food in? That that person.
00:13:54
Speaker 5: Drones, drones are dropping exactly. It's it's just it just seems weird.
00:13:58
Speaker 4: I mean, look this again, it's it's hard for the NBA to get everything right because again, you know, they try to do the best they can. But I guess they don't want to have to say to the employees, like you have to stay in here as well. Locked in here, you can go home with your families. I guess that's what they're trying to do to make it work. But it just seems that like there's just a few little loopholes in here that will still increase the risk of someone who has the virus coming in almost undetected, maybe asymptomatic, and being able to spread it before anyone has a chance to sort.
00:14:29
Speaker 5: Of to detect it.
00:14:31
Speaker 4: That's I think the biggest concern here that you know, again you've talked already about the Orlando Airport having you know, half of the employees they're already testing positive. Well, you know what happens if that's the family member of somebody who's working in the campus. They go home tonight they didn't realize I had it, and then they go into the campus tomorrow without showing any symptoms.
00:14:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's the thing they're helping. The testing catches it. But yeah, we're all agreeing that it's not foolproof.
00:14:56
Speaker 3: Right.
00:14:56
Speaker 4: Well, just even with the testing. I know Tas said earlier there that they're testing day, but apparently they're not going to be tested every day. They're going to be tested regularly, so that might mean not necessarily every single day, And they've figured out a way to get remove that really nasty swab, but right up the nose. They've got other ways of doing it as well. So you hope that those tests are accurate enough as well so that the players, you know, they're not showing false positives or the other way around. So yeah, I mean, there's so many little things that could go wrong, but I guess that the whole plan is to have as much of it covered as possibly and then deal with the consequences should something go wrong.
00:15:38
Speaker 1: Well, Trey, I wanted to ask you, you know, we see or we get a lot of the details at least of this over one hundred page memo, and did it give you more confidence in this actually working or oddly less confidence because you're like there are so many details that you're like, oh, yeah, that could blow up in their face. I mean, I'm glad they thought about it, but oh yeah, that's a step that could go wrong. More confidence are less confidence in now knowing what the whole safety protocol is.
00:16:05
Speaker 2: I've honestly been going back and forth on it the entire time. It reminds me of when I was like, I don't know, I was probably ten years old. My dad told us we were going to Wisconsin. We all got in the car, and then he surprised us and said.
00:16:16
Speaker 1: We're going to Disney World.
00:16:17
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, this is awesome, man, But shouldn't we tell our mom? Who thinks we're going to Wisconsin. You know, it's like it's a real catch twenty two on are we doing the right thing or are we trying to have fun here? Because when you read all of the regulations that the players have, and you know how, it seems that they are basically treating this like NBA households right, Like you can hang out with the people in your house. If you see your neighbors outside, you can say hello to him. Maybe eventually you'll be able to visit your friends outside. All of that makes sense to me because it's similar to how we are actually living in the world. But then when you consider the bigger picture of it, everybody coming in together, that's the part that really gives me pause for sure.
00:16:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, look, the truth is, like any you know, big group of people, are you gonna be able to trust everybody to actually follow these protocols? Like like you were saying, like, if you're gonna meet your buddy from the other hotel, you got to sit outside. You know, you're not you can't go into his room. There's like absolutely no going into somebody else's room. Like you buy that everybody's going to actually follow these rules because I don't know frickin' way.
00:17:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, how are they going to police that? I mean?
00:17:27
Speaker 4: And what what is the risk anyway of doing that? If again, you're going to be spending so much time around the other guy's doing all these other activities where you know, apparently there's bowling, and there's you know, and the and the.
00:17:38
Speaker 5: Ping pong stuff.
00:17:39
Speaker 4: So if you're that close to me, and what difference does it make if you go into somebody's room?
00:17:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, I wanted to ask you. Let's say you put yourself in an NBA player's position. I know, you like to do that. What do you think entertainment wise? Okay, so we know that each hotel is going to have a player's only lounge with NBA TVs and arcade games and ping pong tables, and there's like outdoor space because these are like resorts basically, so you got pool access and you can have spots, we can play cards, and there's fishing, golfing and bowling and boating and bike riding and running and all this stuff. And I think there's even like Disney's Animal Kingdom and Disney's Wild Africa Trek are going to be accessible. Lee, are you if you're looking at just the pure entertainment of being there for three months? I mean, we go to Vegas and nearly die for two weeks. But what are your thoughts on having enough to do? Like Task was saying, Task seems like, oh, you know, there's a lot there. You know, there's not a lot of reason you would have to leave outside of a family emergency.
00:18:34
Speaker 5: What do you think, Yeah, yeah, no, there is.
00:18:35
Speaker 4: I mean, why don't they make a little side event called the Decathlon NBA Decathlon and have everyone compete in these events and then yeah, then you can award someone else that champion at the end of it. But all these events youre talk about, you know, like arcade games, I mean, they're highly contagious. Every of everyone's touching those the joysticks and things like that. I hope there's go karting down there, because that's one of the safest social distancing sports. You know, you've got your helmet on, when you've got your whole suit on and you're certainly not going to be in each other's face.
00:19:03
Speaker 5: That'd be one to have.
00:19:04
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean they have to make sure that players have just got enough to distract themselves, and it certainly sounds like they're going to have fun. But also the other thing is once your team is done that you've got to leave basically the next day as well, you're out of there. So that is that is at least their way of trying to limit it. But I think this comes back to having more teams rather than than less teams. I think they should have sort of probably cut it off a little bit earlier. But yeah, I mean, so like normal tourists though won't be there. I'm guessing is that being made clear.
00:19:36
Speaker 1: I think that's the artist.
00:19:38
Speaker 2: I think that Disney World is going to be opening pretty soon, and they're even going to be having guests in the Grand Floridian by the time that the NBA arrives.
00:19:47
Speaker 4: Well, that's see, that seems that just seems crazy unless there's somehow the people are going to be tested as well every day, you know, I mean, because how are you going to how are you going to prevent anybody like someone's going to see see Lebron and go up money to get a selfie and want to get close to him and an autograph, you know, normal sort of things that people do. If they if they were all of a sudden in this hotel and they see tons and tons of star or NBA players, that's going to create an atmosphere that the NBA would you would think, would want to avoid at all costs.
00:20:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't think I don't think Joe Schmoe is going to be in the same hotel at the time the NBA is in that hotel. I mean there's I mean, there will be employees, So I'm sure their employees are going to be just a psych to see Lebron James and yeah, and try and run up on them. But I guess the idea is like someone calls the hotline and that guy's fired or she's fired there. Yeah, I don't know, Like seriously, they're gonna have to follow these rules or it's all for nut And I'm with you, Skates.
00:20:41
Speaker 2: It's hard to actually trust an entire group of sixteen hundred people to follow the rules one hundred percent. But I think that, I mean, that is why that they have all of these amenities at Disney World, right, so that there's less of a reason to leave. Plus they have the threat of that this will suck rule. If you do leave the bubble, you're getting the long swap up your nose. They're basically using that as punishment. They're like, we're going to stick something into your brain if you leave this bubble, and then we're going to quarantine you for two weeks, and we're also going to docupay for missing games. They're doing things to disincentivize people to leave the bubble, which you know, I guess is probably as much as they actually can do.
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00:25:24
Speaker 1: Tas Uh. There's an interesting wrinkle to our team, the Toronto Raptors. I don't know if it's an advantage or a disadvantage, so I'm interested to hear your tech. They're going to be the lone NBA team when these feeses kick off here that is going to travel to Florida for training camp in Phez one. Obviously being in Canada and having their own set of rules and stuff like that, they want to eliminate extra quarantining and all that and traveling across the border, so they're going straight to Florida in Phez I sort of ahead of all the other teams, good or bad. I don't know any opinion on.
00:25:58
Speaker 3: That probably bad, probably just being there for a longer period of time. I know there's lots of amenities and lots of stuff to do, but I'm sure it'll wear on guys from being there from you know, sort of late July or late June, I should say, until the games really get started five weeks later, and then the playoffs start two and a half weeks after that, so it's a long time, and then your family won't be there until you know, you'd probably be there two months without your family because I'm assuming the Toronto Raptors make the second round of the playoffs when the families arrive, I say, it's not a good thing.
00:26:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sort of with you on that too. There's more you've got to be there, the worse it probably is. But on the other hand, maybe you get like a oddly a bit of a jump start on conditioning and and sort of working out. But the other teams will be doing that anyway, just in their own sort of facilities.
00:26:55
Speaker 3: So get the best PlayStation, get the best hotel room, potentially steal a chair from Yeah, apparently they're getting king sized beds brought in there. That shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, it goes take something from somebody else's hotel room that you need, like a better desk area. Maybe your outlet doesn't work in your room. Got to figure something out. It's an advantage there. But yeah, I thought the same, Thanks Keats, And I was like, more time, probably not, yeah.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean, this really is like the longest AAU trip of all time for these guys, Like they're going back in time here to when they're playing the AAU ball and doing these tournaments. That's really what it's turning into. And I want to say this without coming off offensive, because I understand how detailed this had to be, and you want to err on the side of caution. I get all that before I say this, but it was almost and I wonder how NBA players feel almost embarrassing reading some of this, and maybe I'm alone and having this opinion and just in how like I don't know, like with all what's going on in the world that we're literally getting into this minutia of like, well, don't worry, the cards will be thrown out, don't worry. You might be able to bring in a comedian for something like just of course, like just pampered to the nth degree and that's fine. I mean, you're asking them to be there for a long time. I get it. But am I alone in that thinking there was like it was sort of like I guess it was a little icky just in the in like, wow, wow, they are they are bending over backwards to make this, uh, to make money basically for everybody. I get it, but I don't know. Maybe I'm alone.
00:28:36
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Well, I think either either you either you do the whole memo and you do it detailed like this, or you just don't do it at all, you don't show up at all. Yeah, So I can see why there's a hell of a lot more important things going on in the world, and you can look at it that way, like who the hell cares if you know, Kyrie Irving has another deck of cards to play with. But at the same time, they definitely would have been ridiculed if it wasn't detailed. And I am interested to see what is talking about the social justice issues, how they collaborate the NBA and the MVPA to do as much as they possibly can to make that a top priority when they get down there, because I think that's an ongoing conversation. So that's you know, I'm okay with all the details. To be honest, I'd rather do it. And I think as far as this, like the last three months or have sort of been preparation for the upcoming next few months, and that players were outside and not hanging inside with with people. So I think that that that sort of stuff is wearing masks and all that is just good prep for them. And I think, you know, all these all these people who will be wearing masks, let's actually just go through quickly. Ben Gulliver listed, Yeah, everyone who will or won't have to wear masks.
00:29:54
Speaker 1: Each during the game.
00:29:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, during the game, that's right. Yeah, each team's first row do not have to wear masks. Players or coaches second row, so other players and coaches, guys who are sitting out, Yeah, you have to wear masks. Trainers have to wear masks. Referees no, scores, table yes, ball boys yes, statiician, pa, announcer no. Other teams staff, your towel man yes, cameraman yes, Arena staff yes, media guess and owners yes. And actually we didn't talk about players can go visit and attend other guys or other teams games.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: Strange Yeah, yeah, didn't.
00:30:33
Speaker 3: See that coming. Lebron can go Scout could be fun.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people are actually excited about that idea, like from a you know, an entertainment television broadcast. Would be pretty crazy to see. Yeah, Jannis is playing whoever in the first round and Lebron's just sitting there staring you know, scout. Let me. You know they're going to those shots if he's there for crying out loud, even if he does have a mask on, you'll still you know, thing is said through the eyes, says Lee. So yeah, no, that's.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Surprised to see that there's even a PA announcer for this.
00:31:08
Speaker 1: What are they announcing? Yeah, two minutes.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Remaining in a quarter. I mean I suppose that's the most important thing. Otherwise it's subs and you know, or we're gonna notice who's coming into the games.
00:31:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't know the game. Yeah, the whole game itself is going to just be fascinating with all of these the mass on a lot of these players and on people not playing excuse me, and just being there and how many will be there and yeah, will these other teams be in attendance watching and scouting, like task said, how serious do they take it? Who knows? JD got to get your opinion on this again from Keith Smith, who is all over this and was the first really to even predict or throw out the idea of going to Disney World report JD. Disney will make movies available for players and their families once they join. This is likely to include movies that have not been released to the general public, including Marvel's Black Widow. Yeah, what do you think?
00:32:04
Speaker 6: Oh, I need to get in that bubble.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see that movie. It looks awesome.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Really.
00:32:11
Speaker 6: Yeah. That that's Scarlet right, yeah, uh, Scarlett Johansson The Black Widow, and it's got the Stranger Things guy David Harbor.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, sushi place once here in Atlanta. Yeah, and then he disappeared. I told this story no, like it was so weird. Uh, Nor did I. Nor of course spots him, and I'm brutal at that. She's like, I'm pretty sure that's the guy from Stranger Things, and I think they shoot a lot of it down here in Atlanta, And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's him. That's him. He's just sitting by himself at the sushi bar, and he's sort of like, there's no way he can leave the place without going by us, and not that we I wasn't gonna say, I'm not gonna ask for a photo. I don't care that much. But we're like getting up. We like we're there for a while. He hasn't left, like okay, just like sort of pop my head back in there, because he sort of just tucked around the corn. He was gone. He somehow vanished.
00:33:06
Speaker 3: Where were you?
00:33:08
Speaker 1: Uh mfu.
00:33:10
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, there's only one way in and out, although they do have a patio door there, so you yeah, that's true.
00:33:17
Speaker 1: That's true. Maybe he did sneak out there, or maybe he went into the upside down world or something. Perhaps the dem gorgan got him. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's okay. You're excited about this movie report here.
00:33:30
Speaker 6: Well, I'm very excited about it, but it really I'm not gonna try to get into that bubble and leave my family for three months.
00:33:37
Speaker 1: You don't want to to see a Marvel movie.
00:33:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do remember, you can go and then leave, you know, you don't have to stay the whole time.
00:33:44
Speaker 6: So I feel like I would have to stay though it would just I would be obligated. Can you imagine if I went and the rest of you guys didn't go.
00:33:58
Speaker 1: Lee, We also again this one from Keith Smith that from his sources, his Disney World sources. Now is it goofy? I'm not sure. I don't know who's who's given all this stuff to Keith. Outside entertainment might may be brought in to this stuff too into the campus. Now those details are still being negotiated, but this could include bands, DJs, and comedians. So I'm just wondering, Lee, if you were in charge of entertainment, which band are you bringing in? Like you've got that, you've got the third Wednesday, you get to book it. Who's coming in?
00:34:31
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going with the Red Hot Chili Peppers because you know Flee. You know Flee would absolutely love to be down there. He might even be there anyway, he might be there. He's a big basketball fan, a big Lakers fan.
00:34:44
Speaker 1: Have a sock dangling of.
00:34:47
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
00:34:48
Speaker 4: And Anthony Ketas Yeah, I saw him at the finals last year, So you know that they're big basketball fans. Now they're gonna put on a show. I wonder how many basketball fans are Red Hot Chili Peppers fans like NBA players.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine it's that I don't know.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I don't know what percent show me a lot more in nineteen ninety.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: Six than I would guess.
00:35:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But anyway, I think I think would be good. You know, they put on a good show. I just my problem with them is they just don't interact with the crowd all that much. But maybe it'll be different when this surrounded by NBA plays, you know, it's a bit closer perhaps, But yeah, would they have to wear a mask? I guess not. I guess not if.
00:35:30
Speaker 1: You can make a mask of a sock I saw at right.
00:35:34
Speaker 2: I do wonder if the entertainment will also be held to the Disney standard. Right, it's a very family friendly place, so I don't know. Maybe an adult comedian isn't allowed in Disney. I imagine I'll make exceptions for the NBA.
00:35:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will see. The Other thing that's interesting from all of this, just sort of going back to the to the geeky basketball numbers, is that we're hearing reports that the NBA and maybe even Players Association, they want to allow players potentially that are in line for a max contract extension to sign that deal prior to the resumption of the season, versus having to wait for the obseas. We're talking like guys like Bam and Donovan Mitchell and Jason Tatum, like these guys that are in line for these big, big max contracts, and maybe the idea that they sign them in advances it. You think that's a good idea, so they don't risk you know, of course, being injured in this restarting like Mitchell had talked about, and then possibly blowing a huge payday.
00:36:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hadn't heard that, but yeah, I guess it is a good idea. Why the heck not, especially for those you mentioned those three those are three guys who are going to get max deals.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's really for those obvious max guys. Lee agree with that, Like why not really?
00:36:50
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:36:50
Speaker 5: Yeah?
00:36:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly for the players, I mean, they don't want to have any any possible risks that they blow at and they or something and it just gets put on hold. I wonder though, if the teams and the owners will go for that though, because for the opposite reason, I mean, they maybe don't want to have to commit that money. Now, see how it goes. I mean, it's I don't know, I don't know what the right solution will be for that, because that's kind of changing a rule certainly to suit the players. It gives them more of a benefit than it does the owners, unless you're the owner and you want to lock up your guy for sure. But because then they're all on restricted free agency, those guys anyway, so they're not really they're not really free agents in that sense.
00:37:27
Speaker 5: So yeah, an interesting little wrinkle there.
00:37:30
Speaker 4: I mean, that's one thing that is going to be fascinating to see just what next year's salary cap is anyway, you know. I mean when you think about what happened at the start of the season with the China stuff, and now all the income they've missed out from the remainder of this season. I mean, it could be seventy million dollars next year the cap, who knows, I mean, based on basketball related income. I mean, it's that's going to be incredible to see how they figure that out and just how it looks for the next couple of seasons going forward.
00:37:59
Speaker 3: I think those three guys you mentioned, though, even if they get injured, they're still signing max contracts anyways possible, right, It's and stuff like that.
00:38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, JD. There are reports interesting to get your take on this one too, that be it outside parties, maybe ESPN themselves, the NBA, whatever, thinking of like sort of recording this, you know, documenting this bubble ball. I was tweeting and calling it last night on Twitter thirty for thirty bubble ball. What do you think that's a no brainer, like just this calling an experiment if you will, and just having just a cast of characters that are in the NBA as it is being now all put around each other in this very weird sort of ponderosa like atmosphere to bring it back to survivor that they should be doing that, you think, even if it means bringing other people to record that.
00:38:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I mean what again, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to have, as you say, bubble ball and take it one step further. If the Red Hot Chili Peppers do show up, you know, that's an intimate con concert event that I would watch on Netflix. If Dave Chappelle comes in to do an intimate like little set one night in the night club, It's like it's like putting everybody on a cruise ship, you know, like yeah, and uh and just seeing all the interaction and uh yeah, one hundred percent it would be a blown opportunity if they didn't do that.
00:39:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they'll they'll definitely be doing that. The money that they'll try and just recoup on that alone, yeah, is a no brainer. Yeah.
00:39:34
Speaker 3: I think there'll be some serious Instagram lives from players as well, you know.
00:39:38
Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, period, Yeah, for.
00:39:41
Speaker 3: Sure, some point of view Kingpong going on.
00:39:44
Speaker 2: You know, this is a massive marketing undertaking though for Disney as well, Like you guys are saying, they are going to be documenting it somehow, no surprise, I would imagine it won't just be Disney. There will probably be several documentaries that come out of this. But they are also hoping that this goes so well that the NBA will want to host future events at Disney as well, including a play in tournament including you know, they would do it for other sports as well, perhaps MLS, WNBA, those sort of things. Disney is getting a lot out of this happening.
00:40:17
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, They're.
00:40:20
Speaker 2: Even crazy that it's like that they want to turn over the hotel rooms that the teams who are eliminated from the season. They want to turn those over so that paying guests are able to be in there, which is why the players actually have to pay for their guest hotel rooms.
00:40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, look how many times we've just said Disney in this podcast alone them? Yeah, yeah, right, they're not paying us. We're not seeing that Mickey money. But yep, we will see here again, let's hear from you guys, your listeners out there. After getting a lot of these details from this memo, do you have more confidence in this working? Less confidence? Is this pure insanity? Now? After getting all this is this? Hey, you gotta go through every little detail, every possibility of things happening. They answered some of Henry Abbot's questions, not all of them, but you know some of course. You can see why this took so long. I will uh give the NBA, I'll give the lead credit for that. You know, we were like, where are where is this? Come on? Where you gotta get on this? Like what are the safety protocols? Well, holy crap, you know they're going this this detail. No wonder it took this long to eventually see something, I mean, wild stuff. I'm I'm also like intrigued about these uh basketball problematic activities that they want to like, you know, spitting and licking your hands and wiping the ball with their jerseys and stuff like that. How they like you just get a warning and then the second time, hey, sir, stop grabbing the ball and talking to it and licking it or whatever you do. Like that's a tech, you know, Like, well they have to get that extreme with this stuff because that stuff it's just second nature for athletes too. I mean, like, okay, maybe not spitting that one's always been weird to me, spinning on a basketball, but you know, licking your hands or whatever, wiping your hands on of course your face and around that, that's just what you do because you're you're playing sports. That's I don't know how they take that out of just their day to day basketball playing, but maybe they get maybe they get warned or something. Who knows. Gout.
00:42:16
Speaker 2: I do feel like you're gonna see a lot of that on Twitter, though, because you know, people will break down how many steps a guy took on a fast break layup. I'm sure we're gonna see super cuts of you know, we did it for the starters back in the day. He Turculu licking his hands a thousand times during a game. We're gonna see supercuts of that, and then it'll be like, how come it would be called the hotline on this guy?
00:42:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. It's exactly anything else tasks that you wanted to address here from this memo, I.
00:42:42
Speaker 3: Think we got a hold on. Let me check page ninety nine, paragraph two, Section three. No, I think we covered everything. I think that, Yeah, the worries are Disney employees coming in and out, who again, they'll be wearing masks. But if the surrounding areas got a lot of positive tests happening, which again, when they started playing this it wasn't happening, but Florida cases on the rise greatly, and especially in this area, so that's a big worry. And I think the guests coming in, I don't think we mentioned that they have to come in. The player's guests have to come in self quarantined for three days, get tested, and are hanging out sort of isolated on the NBA campus. And I think they did pretty well there with the guests. But yeah, I like the laying out of all the rules so you don't break those rules but I think as there's more pressure probably applied the next six weeks, I think we'll see more and more Disney employees have to hang out on the property for as long as possible and we go from there. But I think those people as well have been I'm sure you know, if they're working in some capacity at Disney, I know that they've been closed, but they also have been going undergoing those protocols. I think this, even those these three months have helped, you know, build a bit of a trial period. But the really worrisome part is everything exploding around in terms of contractions. So that's that's scary, and it's still six weeks away. But also they'll be down there in a few weeks.
00:44:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:44:17
Speaker 2: Well, for sure, a lot of thought and effort obviously has been put into the safety.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: Protocols for this.
00:44:23
Speaker 2: As you guys are saying, this is a massive document with a whole bunch of details. I hope that the next time we get an update from the League, it's a similarly detailed memo for how they do plan to bring attention and sustained action to issues of social injustice, which they mentioned in the memo. Avery Bradley told Malika Andrews. We don't need to say more. We need to find a way to achieve more protesting during an anthem.
00:44:46
Speaker 1: Wearing T shirts is.
00:44:48
Speaker 2: Great, but we need to see real actions being put into works. You know, the social justice movement in the NBA has been around for decades, obviously, but after the Kyrie Irving call of last week, it's it's certainly been in the forefront of people's minds. So hopefully they're able to give the same thought and consideration to how the players, the league, the governors can raise money, can start some sort of fun can actually be dedicated to combating systemic racism. Hopefully we see a similar memo in the future before the teams actually make their way to Orlando.
00:45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I hope we see that all right. Well, later today Trey is going to talk to Disney expert Carle weisell a lot more questions about this bubble idea at Disney World, and she seems like the perfect person to get some answers from. She is a Disney expert. I was checking out her website last night and I was like, my god, I thought I knew a lot about the NBA. This person knows ten thousand times more about Disney than I'll ever know about the NBA. So Carly will be on with Trey one on one, you know, get into the bottom of questions like have they done this before Disney World, like similar large events, and what are the scouting reports for each of those hotels because there's three of them? And why does Robin Lopez want to be in the yacht club you know, and all this so that should be fun.
00:46:09
Speaker 2: So yeah, she apparently ate a fifteen thousand dollars meal at Disney World, so maybe we'll be able to get into the luxury aspects.
00:46:16
Speaker 1: Of things there.
00:46:17
Speaker 2: You know, this is not going to be the standard Disney experience for a bunch of millionaires, so they're getting the upgraded levels.
00:46:24
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's coming out later today here on Wednesday, so keep your eyes and your ears out for that one in our No Dunks podcast feed one on one with Disney expert Carly Weisel tomorrow. We pushed it back a day obviously, we usually do it on Wednesday, but we'll hit the beach tomorrow. Thursday hit the beach, so you still have a little bit more time to get your questions and your comments in. Maybe you got some about what we just talked about here with this health and safety memo that the NBA released yesterday and then on Friday, I'm almost I'm hesitant to say it, but we are going to get to this fun squad episode we have in mind. All right, we are going to finally record and release the Squad episode. That's the plan at least for Friday. But who knows this.
00:47:06
Speaker 6: Is going to be at a new bank robbery Jones.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: Yeah no, Look, Friday I think is the one hundredth day of the NBA shutdown in response to the coronavirus outbreak. So you know what, we'll have to bump the squad and do something special.
00:47:20
Speaker 5: For the one hundred.
00:47:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll rank every day one through one hundred since then.
00:47:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the podcasts are coming fast and furious. Get your questions at no dunks at the Athletic dot com. Follow us on Twitter at no dunks, Inc. Same goes for Instagram and uh well now I don't want to hear Garth right now, but you know we're on Facebook, all right. Clipper bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome, Thanks.
00:47:41
Speaker 3: For joining us, and remember Raptors fans don't even think about calling Yanni Static Kumpo's room at the Grand Destino, Room four two one to wake him up every single day.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people, day every day, and a ye happy every minute. It's been so long that you're the fun.
00:48:08
Speaker 6: A way for.
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Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be goody
