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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Joining us this segment to talk a little bit about the Niners and the Hawks as we go behind enemy lines is Dave Softy Mahler. He's back, and he's bigger and better than ever with a Super Bowl trophy in hand that he earned down here.
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Speaker 3: Damn it. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
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Speaker 4: I tell you what, man, one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen was winning a championship on your turf in your stadium.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: One of the greatest experiences of my life, walking into your building and claiming a second Lombardi trophy. I will never forget that afternoon. Thank you for the hospitality. Thank you for the great weather, by the way, the great food. The only thing that stunk, Larry, was doing a show up in San Francisco and then having to move the entire operation down to Santa Clara. I would have just done the whole damn thing in Santa Clara from the start. Seahawks were staying down there. Obviously, the game was down there, but all the radio row crap, as you know, was up in San Francisco. So that's the only thing that stunk is how spread out the entire thing was. But outside of that, you were great. Everybody was so nice and so sweet. It's almost like you knew the inevitable was happening and why fight it? You knew the Hawks were going to win that game. There was no chance the Seahawks were going to lose that game.
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Speaker 3: To the Patriots.
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Speaker 4: So why not fight it, embrace it, and have a good time? And that's what you good people did. So thank you for the experience.
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Speaker 1: Did you get any good rounds of golf up here?
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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't play golf while I was down there, man. We were so busy running around all day long. You know the drill. People look at these trips that we make in this business and think it's all fun and games, but you actually work your ass off when you're on the road.
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Speaker 3: You bust your ass even more. When you're on the road. So, you know, we're getting a radio row at 9 a.m.
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Speaker 4: We're leaving at seven o'clock and had a little bit of a day of time on Saturday before the game, but spend it with my wife and some friends.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you a funny story.
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Speaker 4: I dropped off my my co-host Dick Fane at his hotel in San Francisco because he was going to stay overnight in the city and then come to Santa Clara on Sunday morning. I went down to Santa Clara on Friday night. You know how when you usually get out of a car and and it's running, the car.
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Speaker 3: Will tell you that the key is not detected. Okay.
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Speaker 4: So I drop off Dick and I go to the hotel in Santa Clara. I get to the hotel in Santa Clara and long story short, I realized that Dick has the keys to the car.
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Speaker 3: Up in San Francisco.
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Speaker 4: The car never told me that the keys were not in the car. And I shut the car off outside the hotel in Santa Clara. And those idiots had to sit there and just let it be parked for about three or four hours. I had to pay a God darn Uber guy a hundred bucks to drive the keys down from San Francisco to Santa Clara. I literally drove Larry from San Francisco to Santa Clara without car keys.
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Speaker 3: First time I've ever done that. And probably the last time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was a very victorious day for you guys. I'll say this.
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Speaker 2: Walking out of Lumen Field when you guys slapped the Niners around in the divisional round, I thought there's no way that the Niners are going to be able to close this gap on the Seahawks by next year because of all the different advantages Seattle had, the youth, the age, the cap, the whole deal. But then John Schneider said, we don't need Kenneth Walker. And I think that kind of, even though I have nothing but respect for Schneider, I think that was a gaffe.
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Speaker 1: How have you guys treated that? You guys are now running with Emmanuel Wilson and Joe Nixon.
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Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was a mistake when they did it. I said on the air that I would have rather spent the money on Kenny Walker than Rashid Shaheed. I think they gave Rashid 17, then Kenny got 14 or vice versa, whatever. I think I have those numbers right. But anyway, that money that was allocated for Rashid Shaheed was I would have spent it on Kenny Walker. And look, I mean, Rashid Shahid had the touchdown, obviously, on the carry against the Chargers on Sunday. But he only had three touches total in the entire game on offense. He had three targets and he had two carries. So they went to him five times for three touches in that game. And for $ 17 million a year, that's just not enough, Larry. So, look, I mean, I will tell you this. What Andy Reid is doing to Kenny Walker– looks like to be a little bit criminal to me. I mean, he's on pace for like 370 carries. There's no way canines going to be able to handle that. At some point, he's going to get hurt. He's going to break down. and he's not going to be available. So Andy Reed needs to back off the gas. There's no way in hell that Mike McDonald and John Schneider would have allowed that kind of a workload for Kenny Walker here in Seattle because they know his history. But we also know that in the final, what four regular season games and three playoff games a year ago, this team jumped on Kenny Walker's back on offense. I mean, he was phenomenal down the stretch for this football team. I remember, you know, uh, kind of, you know, stretching the numbers out to a 17 game season. He's putting up Christian McCaffrey, honestly, Larry type numbers running and catching last year in the final month and a half of the year. So I would have kept them, but I think what he's doing right now in Kansas city is not sustainable.
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Speaker 3: He's going to break down. He's going to get hurt.
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Speaker 4: The guy's on pace for, you know, what, 36 touchdowns and 2,200 yards rushing, something crazy with the Chiefs. So we are missing him right now. There's no question about it. Emmanuel Wilson looked good against the Chargers, 120 total, a couple touchdowns, which are numbers that you would have taken.
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Speaker 3: From Jadari.
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Speaker 4: And even if he was healthy, you would have taken those numbers out of the rookie from Notre Dame.
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Speaker 3: But now it's Joe Mixon.
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Speaker 4: Zach Charbonnet is coming off the IR, not this week, but should play next week, obviously. You got George Helani. You got some other guys you're elevating from the practice squad. So it really is kind of a by-committee thing right now, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: How does Seattle look in the first month of the year? The record says 3-1. They're 2-0 at home.
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Speaker 1: They lost Darnold in the opener for a couple games, so they had to lean on Drew Locke. But Darnold's now back. How does the offense look in the first month?
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Speaker 4: Fine.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they had a backup quarterback. I mean, everything's in context, right?
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they went, you know, about, what, 40 minutes without scoring against the Patriots. And then Drew Locke came alive and got a win. in the fourth quarter against New England, partly because of Drake May's stupidity, throwing that terrible interception into the end zone, by the way, in the corner of the end zone at Lumen Field to win the game for the Seahawks. But I think everything's got to be taken in context. When you've got a backup quarterback, you're not expecting the same kind of production. There's nobody in the NFL that would expect the same kind of production with Drew Locke versus Sam Darnold. So winning those first two games without Sam, And then going to Washington and having Darnold put up the numbers he put up, obviously he had some interceptions in that game. As you know, he's kind of prone to do at times. There's no doubt about that. But he looked pretty damn good for a guy that was basically playing his first game under new offensive coordinator Brian Fleury. The problem in a lot of ways in that game was you Darian price had a fumble that led to an easy touchdown.
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Speaker 3: That's why he got benched.
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Speaker 4: He got benched for about 30 minutes of that game versus Washington. The defense was in a great favorable spot. Third and seven, third and nine, the last drive against Marcus Mariota and the commanders. And they, they allowed the commanders to convert on, on both those plays, which is very atypical for the Seahawk defense. It's starting to become a little bit of a trend that we can talk about in a minute here, Larry, before this game on Sunday. But I think, look, when you're, When your starting quarterback has played two games and your backup quarterback played the other two, to be 3-1 and to be that close to being 4-0, I'll take it, man, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of Brian Fleury? He's a buddy of mine. I really enjoyed talking to him. He was a very good tight end coach. That's a gigantic jump, though. This has got to be the greatest opportunity of his coaching career. What are the early reviews on Fleury?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, he reminds me of Obi-Wan Kenobi from the 70s. And I'm not talking about Ewan McGregor. I'm talking about Alec Guinness, the original Obi-Wan Kenobi from the 1970s. All the guy needs is a cloak and a lightsaber, and he'll be great on Halloween. But, you know, look, I think he's been fine. You know, I think he's got to find a way, obviously, to get that running game going. But it's hard when you don't have the talent right now. I mean, you've got your top two guys are Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet. And they have not been available together for one game this year. Charbonnet obviously is out probably for this game, if not one more, hopefully back next week, like we said. But Jadarian is now on the IR for four games with a chest injury. So it's going to be week nine, week 10, Larry, before he gets his top two running backs back together again. like they had last year with Kenny Walker and Zach Charbonnet. So that's number one. And then number two, I think he's got to find a way to get Shahid more involved. I mean, this guy's got talent, man. He's not just a special teams guy. I mean, and I'm talking about as a runner, as a wide receiver, I'm kind of underwhelmed a little bit. I think they got to find a way to get him involved more there, but I just want to get the ball in Rashid Shahid's hands. Whether a jet sweep, fly sweep, whatever, little screen play, blah, blah, blah. Anything that gives Rashid Shaheed a chance to get that engine going and get that 4.3 speed going, I'm a fan of. So that to me is almost the next step for Brian Fleury to find a way to get all of his weapons involved and get all of his weapons healthy.
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Speaker 1: Underrated pickup getting Emmanuel Wilson. Has Wilson looked, what's the strength of Wilson's game?
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Speaker 3: Right up the gut.
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Speaker 4: He's got nothing on the outside. There's no speed there, which is why he's Emmanuel Wilson, right? And not somebody else. That's why he's making a million five. I mean, the market kind of spoke, right? But I think for everything that you expected out of Emmanuel Wilson, this is a guy that Larry, I gotta be honest with you.
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Speaker 3: So I had a DJ by the way.
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Speaker 4: This is a guy that I was concerned that he wouldn't even make the damn team. that maybe we'd have another Marquez Valdez Scanling on our hands, that he shows up with a little bit of hype and then doesn't even make the roster. in September so good for him number one for making it probably did because of the injuries to be totally honest with you and then number three 120 total two touchdowns in the game against the Chargers which ended up which ended up being a one score game I'll take it like are you kidding me I mean how much more do you want from the guy like I was kind of getting into it on the air yesterday with Dick and Hugh Millen about Emmanuel Wilson I'm like guys what did you expect and Hugh's point was that well he's not very good around the outside well that's why he's making one five right? That's why he was available for one five. So I think we have to put all of this into context for what I was expecting out of Emmanuel Wilson to get what they've gotten out of him so far this year, I think is a bonus.
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Speaker 3: Will they need more from that position to repeat? Absolutely. No question. Well, they need more to beat you guys on Sunday. Absolutely. Right.
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Speaker 4: So this is going to be a test for him this Sunday against the Niners. Uh, if he even ends up playing a lot, who knows, maybe Joe Mixon coming out of moth balls ends up being the guy, uh, this Sunday against you guys.
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Speaker 3: But for, for what we.
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Speaker 4: Expected out of Wilson, I will absolutely take it and run what he's given us so far.
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Speaker 3: No doubt.
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Speaker 2: Um, you know, the, the moves that John Schneider has made, I mean, he's a great GM, but, but, um, You know, a couple of those moves.
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Speaker 1: That he made, if he had made them here, there would have been huge protests.
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Speaker 3: Like what? Tell me. Well, Terry on Arnold, Joe Mixon. I get it. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The problem's off the field. You know, Seattle's an interesting market, but what are the fans like? You talk to the fans on your show. Were there people, did you take any calls on KGR from people going, I'm turned off by this?
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Speaker 1: I don't like domestic violence abusers.
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Speaker 3: I don't like Terry on Arnold.
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Speaker 1: Because of the issues he's had. Or is it like, you know what? go Hawks, go Hawks. And, you know, God bless John Schneider.
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Speaker 4: Right. Well, first of all, I would hope that we all can agree that we don't like domestic violence abusers.
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Speaker 3: Number one, let's just kind of throw that out there. Right.
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Speaker 4: But I'm going back to the video is awful. When he was in Oklahoma, all of us saw it 10 years ago, but it was, you know, 10 years ago, it was 2016 when he was in, in Norman. So, I'm not saying that you excuse it, but I think you do look at his track record since then and wonder, is he the same guy that he was.
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Speaker 3: 10 years ago? You'll never, ever get over that.
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Speaker 4: I think if you're Joe Mixon, if you don't want to sign him because you don't even want that remotely.
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Speaker 3: Associated Larry with your football team. I get it. I totally get it. And you know what?
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Speaker 4: I mean, the juice may not be worth the squeeze, right?
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Speaker 3: Whatever.
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Speaker 4: Feedback, whatever flack they get for signing Joe Mixon as a backup third string practice squad running back? Is it really worth it in the end? Frankly, I think it's more worth it with Terry on Arnold because Terry on Arnold, if he ever does get cleared by the NFL, might start for this football team, right? It's like the thing with Kaepernick. I mean, if you're going to bring on Kaepernick, man, you better be getting something in return for all the PR that you're going to take. And if he's a backup quarterback, then is it really freaking worth it? Probably not, right? Especially now that he's 100 years old.
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Speaker 3: But I get it.
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Speaker 4: I do think the Hawks made a mistake about 10 years ago when they drafted Frank Clark. And there was all the controversy coming out of college with Frank Clark. And John Schneider said at a press conference on draft night, they would never draft a player who they thought put his hands on a woman. Well, here they are grabbing Joe Mixon who clocked a woman in college and it's on video for everyone to see. So I think when you make proclamations like that, people hold you to it. Shockingly, you know, some folks actually remember and they hold you to it. So I don't know if John Schneider needed, needed to say anything like that 10 years ago, because you never know what kind of position you're going to be in. But the Terry and Arnold thing, Larry, to me is different. I mean, He's either free and clear or he's not right there. There's no in between. It's not like, you know, he's going to get convicted of a crime and go do three months in the can and then come back and play for the Seahawks. I mean, Roger Goodell will decide the NFL will decide in the end if Terry and Arnold can play for Seattle. And if he is clear, then that would inevitably mean that he's been cleared of any wrongdoing in this case that he's involved in. So to me, that's more that's more black and white than the Joe Mixon thing is.
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Dave Softy-Mahler on the UMA guest line as we chop it up and talk a little bit about Niners and Hawks.
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Speaker 1: It's Hawks week.
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Speaker 2: Niners in Seattle on Sunday in week four trying to run their record to 5-0. And it's going to be a huge challenge. Toughest game of the year to date. First of all, I've got to ask you about Clint Kubiak.
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Speaker 1: He might be the hottest name in football right now. He went to the Raiders.
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Speaker 3: He is turning the Raiders around.
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Speaker 1: Is there.
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Speaker 2: you were around Clint Kubiak up there. He was down here before that. What do you think of Clint Kubiak? What makes him so special? His brother, Clay, I would imagine is going to get a head coach in this next cycle.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no question.
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Speaker 4: I mean, anybody with a last name Kubiak is going to get a chance, right? Does, does Kyle have any kids by the way, that are eligible yet to play?
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Speaker 1: No, they're still, still kind of young.
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Speaker 3: I mean, nepotism rules, right?
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Speaker 4: And the national football league, man, there's no question about that, but, A couple of things. First of all, I'd be a little bit careful in saying that Clint Kubiak has turned the Raiders around. Are they a better product right now than what they were a year ago? Yeah, but they've got New England. They got Buffalo. They got the Rams. Then they got the Niners, the Seahawks all coming up and like five of the next six games and Denver. Why don't we check in with the Raiders and like on Thanksgiving? And we'll see what their record looks like after that schedule that they've got coming up here. But you know, my, my concern with Clint was always his personality, right? He didn't strike me as a guy that has got what it takes personality wise to lead a locker room and to be a guy that, you know, commands and demands respect. And he was kind of a quiet guy when he was here, you know, I mean, Mike McDonald, obviously you saw in hard knocks kind of what he's all about and the way he kind of, you know resides over his football team and the presence that he's got. So, I've always been a little bit nervous about his personality, Larry. But if he's that great of an offensive mind and he's that smart of a coordinator and he's got that big of a leg up on defensive coordinators around the NFL, he could be the most, you know, inverted, boring person walking the face of the earth. But if he's a mad scientist, that may not matter. So, again, I would just I would just hold off on that. He's turned the Raiders around thing until we get to Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 2: Are the Hawks playing? Are they on their game right now? I was looking at their highlights last week. They had 14 penalties for a franchise record, 150 yards.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: Were those pre-snap penalties? Is that a concern or is it no concern?
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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I like the fact that you can win a game with 150 yards and penalties. I mean, most teams can't overcome that, right? So that's number one, a great thing for the Hawks. And it was actually 15 because they had one that was offset early in the game on Devin Witherspoon. So they got flagged 15 times. Larry, between the Husky-USC game Saturday and the Seahawks game on Sunday, we had 49 flags called in those two games combined.
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Speaker 3: I was gross.
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Speaker 4: Like every time I see something yellow, I think it's a flag for God's sakes. I see a yellow cleat of a charger player on Sunday. I think, Oh, here we go again. Another damn flag. It's not a huge concern. You know, I mean, there was a lot of unsportsmanlikes. There were a lot of personal fouls, some procedural penalties. I mean, most of them were legit to be totally honest with you. Nicky Manwari had one where he grabbed the guy's face mask and almost ripped his head off. He got into a guy's face, obviously early in the game. and was talking some smack, that was a problem. So I just think it's awesome that you can actually learn these lessons, but do it in a win, right? Like, it'd be one thing if, hey, man, you guys sacrificed a win because you're all knuckleheads. And you acted like, you know, brain dead morons and got yourself 14 flags. A lot of them were of the 15 yard variety. You just pissed away a victory. Well, no, they actually won the game. So the fact that Mike McDonald can take this as a learning lesson for the rest of the year, but get it in a win to me is a huge step for this football team. There's actually a part of me, Larry, totally. That's glad it happened.
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Speaker 3: Honestly.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what are the odds of the Seahawks having another game like that the rest of the way because of what they went through on Sunday?
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Speaker 3: I think it's great.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: The Niners are the least penalized team in football. And Shanahan was asked that question. Hey, why are you the least penalized team in football? And his answer was like, you know, we've had some crews that don't call a lot of penalties. And people laughed at that.
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Speaker 3: But you know what?
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Speaker 1: If you watch this game with.
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Speaker 2: Seattle and the Chargers, the Chargers had 16 penalties in that game for 130 yards.
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Speaker 3: Scott Novak. Scott Novak.
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Speaker 4: He was in charge of the other game that was the second highest game this year with the most flags in the NFL. I don't know what it is about that guy, but, man, he loves calling.
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Speaker 3: He loves seeing himself on TV, I'll tell you that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so that's, you know, that's probably the bigger deal. That's probably the story more than anything.
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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams limped to the medical tent in the third quarter of that Chargers game with an ankle injury. What's his status? What is the Seahawks– you know, physical status for this game. Who's banged up. Who's not going to go.
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Speaker 4: Well, the big ones are running back position, obviously, you know, just keep an eye on that. You know, who gets called up from the practice squad, who gets activated by the way, for the game on Sundays, that's number one. And then number two, the right guard situation, Anthony Bradford had been the starter and he was kind of a guy that people like to beat up on a lot a year ago. I mean, look, every offensive line has the fifth best lineman, right? I mean, if we rank them all, you know, every team, your team, my team, every team in the NFL has the worst of the five. And Anthony Bradford was considered by far the worst of those five guys by most Seahawks fans and most media members last year. I thought he got better as the year went on, but he's banged up right now. And they've been going with Christian Haynes, who's what the third year guy out of UConn. And then they've been going with Bo Stevens, who's the rookie out of Iowa. So, Bo got a lot of playing time in the game on Sunday versus the chargers. Not sure what their plan is there yet at right guard. Um, I think from Leonard Williams standpoint, he's going to be a game time decision, man. I mean, obviously he's a key cog in that thing. He can play inside. He can play outside. He's almost a captain of the defensive line. So we have to wait until Sunday on that one, but the two big ones are the right guard spot and the running back spot for, for Sunday no doubt.
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald called it a learning lesson he had a little little comment that that ruffled some feathers For those who missed the story, tell us the story here.
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Speaker 1: What happened between McDonald and the Broncos?
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Speaker 4: Okay, so that was– I didn't know where you were going. I thought you were going to go back to the Charger game. The learning lesson is that Mike McDonald does an interview with a guy, Graham whatever the hell his name is.
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Speaker 3: Graham Bensinger.
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Speaker 4: Graham Bensinger, who I honestly had never heard of until this whole story showed up. I mean, no disrespect to him, but there's a lot of guys that I haven't heard of. Does an interview with Graham, and off the air– They're having a conversation that apparently is being recorded, and he's talking about how during the Bronco game a couple years ago, they were able to get a hold of some Twitter video from fans that were at Bronco training camp, and they poured over it, and they looked to see if they could find any advantages from video that was made online. public, which Sean Payton has a right to do the exact same thing. I mean, you go to see our training camp at the V Mac and there's a portion of the training camp practice, Larry. I'm not sure what the Niners do. But there's a portion of the Seahawks training camp practice where they will literally announce over the microphone, do not record. Please turn your phones off because we're going to start getting into some sensitive stuff. So number one, you got to trust people that they're not doing that. And then number two, whatever you were allowing the fans to record earlier, if you put something on the field that gets recorded during a time where fans are allowed to record video, That's on you.
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Speaker 3: That's your fault.
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Speaker 4: If you're Sean Payton, because one of the big reasons why fans go to training camp is so they can go on social media and tell people I was at training camp and they want to, they, they want to pump their chest out. They want to act like they, they got something that nobody else has. So of course people are going to post on Instagram and YouTube and Twitter. So I don't know if the Hawks really found anything big time, you know, detail-y or, you know, detail oriented that really helped them in the Bronco game. But he admitted that to Graham Bensinger and the Broncos got pissed and thought they were violating some code in the NFL, some Spygate type thing, which is obviously idiotic, totally different than Spygate. Spygate was in a stadium during a walkthrough with a practice and a camera that wasn't supposed to be there. So he learned his lesson, you know, even off the record stuff, you know, sometimes can can be taken out of context and be reported and recorded. I mean, I I think Graham Bensinger and his entire show come off as a bunch of jackasses just ruining it for everybody. And man, I feel bad for the local media here in Seattle that, you know, rely on off the record conversations with guys as you and I both do. sometimes to kind of pick up intel and push us in the right direction so we'll see how candid mike mcdonald is down the road about this stuff we'll see if he clams up a little bit now down the road both on the podium and off the mic with that with local media because of that thing.
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Speaker 1: He went through yep seahawks in denver in week six that adds a little juice to that.
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Speaker 3: One thursday night football yes sir.
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Speaker 1: Oh man it's it should be good let's talk a little hard knocks um yep Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch are adamant, Dave, that they do not want to participate in hard knocks.
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Speaker 2: They feel like they'll give stuff away.
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Speaker 1: They feel like it's a competitive disadvantage. Hard knocks this summer parked their their deal in Seattle's camp.
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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the facility looks gorgeous.
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Speaker 3: Come on up, man.
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Speaker 1: It looks amazing. Absolutely amazing. I'm shocked by how great their facility is.
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Speaker 3: It's right on the water, huh?
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Speaker 4: And there's no power plant nearby, so nobody's worried about getting sick, by the way.
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Speaker 3: We're not concerned about that. By the way, is that a real thing in your mind? No, no, no. It's been debunked.
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Speaker 1: It's been debunked. It's not a real thing.
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Speaker 4: But first of all, let me just ask you this. Cause that that's their practice facility. Is that correct? Or is that right outside Levi's? Where's that at?
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Speaker 2: The stadium is right there. The, and it's all right there. It's all right. The substation, the stadium and the practice field are all.
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Speaker 3: It looks, it looks, it looks gnarly.
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Speaker 4: Like honestly, like from a, as from an aesthetic perspective, it looks ridiculous that you would have a substation right next to your practice facility. I mean, Can you put up a big wall or something? Or I don't know, maybe, you know, build like a giant hedge or whatever, because it looks awful.
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Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
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Speaker 2: They have a green fence on the bottom level, but it's like put that thing.
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Speaker 1: Up for three or four stories.
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Speaker 2: 100% that view, because what's happening is in every practice picture or video, there is this gigantic substation. And then, you know, perception becomes reality and that kind of thing. But it's been pretty much debunked. They are going to buy they are going to build themselves a brand new practice facility, but not because of that, because they've got their you know, they've got this part of the organization in this building and they got this part of the organization in that building. And eventually they'd like it to be under one roof. But what did you think of the hard knocks experience? What do you think of the way that they showed the Hawks? And, you know, how do you guys have you guys discussed? the impact it had or maybe the.
00:24:55
Speaker 3: Lack of it.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:24:56
Speaker 4: No, we talked about it on the air. I thought the first episode was fine, and then it got boring from there. I thought in the end it was extremely boring, right? I mean, it was fun to kind of look in on conversations that John Schneider's having with Terry on Arnold's agent. You know, fun to look in on conversations that, you know, Mike McDonald is having with, you know, guests and dignitaries. You know, Mitch Johnson, the coach of the Spurs, was in his office and, you know, seeing the families and the kids and all that stuff. But it was kind of boring. I mean, there really wasn't a lot there. And I think the problem for me with, with hard knocks, you know, number one, I'm not a gigantic hard knock junkie to begin with the way some other people are, but now that the NFL only has the one cut down day, Larry, and doesn't have the first cut down, obviously from nine to 75, you're not.
00:25:41
Speaker 3: Getting the cut downs.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: You're not getting guys getting released and throwing fits by the way, like we had back in the day, that was the best part.
00:25:46
Speaker 3: You know, when a guy would come in there.
00:25:48
Speaker 4: And a son, I got to sit you down and he, He gets told he's being released and he starts crying and he gets pissed off and starts throwing stuff and they have to escort him out of a building. That's the kind of stuff I want to see. And you're not seeing any of that anymore with hard knocks because of the one cut down day the NFL has to offer. So, I mean, there were obviously some stars. Montori Foster Jr., who was a substitute teacher that made the Seahawks roster as more of a special teams guy.
00:26:14
Speaker 3: He was a big focal point. Derek Hall was a big focal point.
00:26:17
Speaker 1: With those shorts and that truck.
00:26:21
Speaker 3: I mean, it's terrible.
00:26:22
Speaker 1: Just awful.
00:26:24
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like Derek, put some pants on for God's sakes, man. Nobody wants to see that. Right.
00:26:28
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, the way McDonald was talked to him when he was kind of getting out of control during practice and, you know, maybe getting a little bit too close to injuring Sam Darnold.
00:26:36
Speaker 3: Those conversations were great.
00:26:37
Speaker 4: It was nice to see that side of McDonald because I've thought that side was there for a while, Larry, but nobody really saw it until hard knocks. And I think a reason why nobody really saw it is because the guy was only in his first couple of years of being a head coach in the NFL. Now that he's got a championship under his belt, I think more of that's coming out. You're seeing a more relaxed McDonald, a more jovial McDonald, goofing around a little bit more. He's in a better mood. There's more personality coming out. So he was pretty guarded. He was actually pretty boring the first couple years, first year and a half he was here in Seattle. So we did see some of that come out in hard knocks. for the most part, I thought it was pretty boring to be.
00:27:16
Speaker 3: Honest with you.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: Let's finish with the, we kind of buried the lead.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: If you talk Seahawks, you got to talk defense and McDonald's defensive coach.
00:27:22
Speaker 4: We got to go back to your comment, by the way, about Kyle and John turning the Niners around in, in, you know, this year, you said there was a big gap between the Hawks and Niners a year ago, and you were curious if they could turn it around and, I may eat these words, by the way, on Sunday, but let's not forget, man, what happened last year. You came on our radio show and you're talking all kinds of smack about the playoff game and we're going to get you and blah, blah, blah. And don't forget, that was a Niner team last year before they played the Seahawks in Santa Clara, which was for the de facto NFC West Championship. You guys were on a roll. You were on a freaking roll. You'd won six in a row. You just came off a big win against the Bears.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: We had no George Kittle.
00:28:08
Speaker 3: We had no everybody. 47-41 against Arizona. And then what happened? Pow!
00:28:13
Speaker 4: You run right into a freaking sledgehammer called the Seahawks dark side defense, and they kick your ass in week 18, and they kicked your ass in the playoff game in Seattle. So let's hold off a little bit, big boy.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: Just a little bit. Fair enough.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: Let's talk, though, about this matchup, because there are some people that believe here that that Mike McDonald has Kyle Shanahan's number. Kyle has not been able to produce a touchdown in the last two appearances.
00:28:42
Speaker 1: And what's, what I'm seeing in the, you know, not getting.
00:28:44
Speaker 2: Too football esoteric, but basically the Hawks are playing with light boxes and still stopping the run because their defensive front with Murphy and Reed and Leonard Williams cannot be uprooted by the Niners offensive line. And again, Um, the, so the Seahawks can go with light boxes, take away the explosives in the past game and just allow their, their front, you know, to, to kind of wreck shop up front. Um, is that going to continue? How has this defense looked this year compared to what we saw at the end of last year?
00:29:18
Speaker 3: Well, it's an amazing tackling back seven, right? That's part of it.
00:29:21
Speaker 4: That first of all, you got a guy in Nikki Manwari, uh, you know, number three wearing Russell Wilson's old number who was out the first couple of games of the year with an ankle injury, but he's back now. Go back and watch the Charger game, and this is a guy who's a safety who's being used at a four point stance on the defensive line, rushing the passer. I mean, it's just like camp chancellor, honestly, Larry didn't even do that.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Right.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: And cam chancellor was maybe the greatest strong safety in Seattle Seahawk history. One of the greatest strong safeties of all time. And he wasn't even doing that. So the way that they are using this Swiss army knife and Nikki Manwari is, is unbelievable. They can use them in coverage. They can use him as an outside backer. They can use him as an edge rusher. He's all over the place. So keep an eye on number three. And then, look, I mean, I don't know if I can remember in a long time a Seahawks secondary that closes the way this one does.
00:30:09
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not a lot of room to operate, number one.
00:30:12
Speaker 4: And number two, when there is a completion, there's two, three guys right there to make a tackle. Devin Witherspoon is one of the best tackling defensive backs I've ever seen in my life. He's one of the best blitzing defensive backs I've ever seen. You saw what he did to Drake May in the Super Bowl. You could have argued that Witherspoon should have been the MVP in that game for the way.
00:30:32
Speaker 3: That he played.
00:30:32
Speaker 4: So when you see corners and you see safeties, those aren't just corners and safeties, man.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: Those are edge rushers. Those are outside linebackers. And those are blitzers.
00:30:41
Speaker 4: So the pressure and the pain is coming from every layer of this defense. And that's why they can play the defense they can. Also getting Julian Love back is gigantic. I mean, they missed him in the Washington game. He's the Earl Thomas man of this defense. He's the safety back there. Free safety number 20. Everything they do in a lot of ways kind of revolves around Julian Love. And they did not have him in the commander game. They had him last week and it paid off. And you saw why.
00:31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a superstar against the Niners, and every single game he plays against the Niners, he looks like Hall of Famer.
00:31:12
Speaker 1: To me, the key is turnovers.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: The Hawks are 3-1, and the three wins are plus six in turnovers, and the one loss, they're minus three. What happened in that Commander's game?
00:31:22
Speaker 3: Was it just turnovers?
00:31:23
Speaker 4: Jadarian Price had a fumble that led to an easy touchdown for the Commanders inside Seahawk territory. And then on third and seven and third and nine, the last drive of the game against old man Mariota, they couldn't get off the field.
00:31:34
Speaker 3: I mean, which is shocking, right?
00:31:35
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of, you know, I started the show by talking about that, that there's a little bit of a small sliver of a trend developing with this defense that I don't like. In the Patriot game, third and long, fourth and long, late in the game, Drake may was able to keep drives going. And if not for that interception in the corner there, they would have probably won the game. So that was concerning. Third and seven, third and nine against the Commanders on a drive where they had to get a stop to get the ball back to Sam Darnold to win the game.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: They couldn't get off the field. And then on.
00:32:08
Speaker 4: Sunday, fourth and seven, up 10, deep inside Charger territory. Herbert hits Johnston for 44 yards on fourth and seven to keep that thing going. So there's been three games this year where the Seahawks defense has been in very favorable positions defensively. and just could not get off the field. So to me, it's just kind of something to keep an eye on and see if that trend develops into a bigger concern for these guys.
00:32:34
Speaker 1: Man, it's always great to wrap with you.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Give me your quick thought on Purdy and the Niners on the way out here.
00:32:41
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners are a better team, I think, than they were.
00:32:44
Speaker 2: But Purdy, it's a lot about Brock Purdy.
00:32:46
Speaker 1: He's playing like an MVP. What do you see with the Niners? What do you see with Purdy?
00:32:50
Speaker 4: Well, you know where I stand on Brock Purdy. I told you last year where I stand on Brock Purdy.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: You're a believer.
00:32:55
Speaker 4: Where are all the idiots that were calling for this guy to be benched a year ago? Where are all the dipsticks and the morons last year that wanted to jump off Brock Purdy's wagon? I mean, where are all those clowns? You know, are they, are they, are they still talking? Are they still running their pie holes? Are they actually hanging their balls out there and, you know, going on record saying they were wrong.
00:33:14
Speaker 3: About this guy.
00:33:14
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I like him. I mean, is he slightly overpaid? Okay, fine, but, you know, dude, every quarterback in the NFL is overpaid, right? I mean, Sam Darnold's probably going to make $ 50 million after this year comes to an end. Does he deserve $ 50 million? Does Baker Mayfield deserve $ 50 million? Does Trevor Lawrence deserve 50? Probably not. But that's the market, guys, and the cap is going up exponentially every damn year. What do you care? They'll figure it out. I mean, if John and Kyle know what the hell they're doing, they'll figure it out. They'll draft better. They'll get some nice young hot shots that are making nothing to compliment Brock Purdy.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: So you know where I stand on this guy.
00:33:49
Speaker 4: I think any 49er fan that wants to move on from Brock Purdy like all those dopes last year wanted to, you guys are as dumb as the day is long, and you're finding out now why with the way the guy's playing.
00:34:00
Speaker 2: The spread opened at Hawks minus three. It's the money came in on the Niners. It's Hawks minus two and a half. I think the 49ers are going to pull the upset. Well, you always think that.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: Well, I'm never going on KGR and saying, well, you guys are going to kick our ass. I'm just not going.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: To do it.
00:34:16
Speaker 4: Larry, I went on your show last year before week 18. And I think I thought I told you the Niners were going to win the game. I thought you were going to get us in week 18 a year ago, and I was wrong. So are you going to give us your honest opinion, or you want to just be a homer here?
00:34:31
Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing now, Larry? No, I'm not a homer. In your golden age, is that what you're doing?
00:34:36
Speaker 4: Whatever happened to the guy that I knew back in the day with Radnich that would hang his nuts out there and say whatever he wanted to? And the Niner fans and the listeners be damned. What happened to that guy who spoke his mind? I, I, you know what?
00:34:48
Speaker 2: I just, I cannot, there's the bitterness between the Niners and the Hawks is too great. I can't go on KJR and, and give it up that easy, but I do think Niners get them this week. Give me your prediction on the, on the game.
00:34:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, man, I just think that it would not surprise me if the Niners won. I think the Seahawks have obviously some work to do with their running game. That concerns me a little bit. I would love to have Jadari and price and Zach Charbonnet available. for this game, but they're both not going to play. So again, this is going to be the Emmanuel Wilson show. It's going to be the Sam Darnold, Jackson Smith and Jigba show really in the end.
00:35:22
Speaker 3: It's all about that defense, man.
00:35:23
Speaker 4: If this defense does their job and they hold the Niners offense to under 20 points, which they should be able to do. because for the most part, they do that against everybody. I think we're going to have a game in the fourth quarter, but I think because they're at home, the Hawks will pull it out.
00:35:36
Speaker 3: Wipe that crap-eating grin off your face, by the way.
00:35:39
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:35:40
Speaker 3: There you go.
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Dave's picking the Hawks. I'm picking the Niners.
00:35:43
Speaker 3: Shocking.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: What's the point? The place is going to be rocking. It's going to be rocking.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: And I will say, you know, you guys did the tri-tip in the playoffs was just fantastic. I mean, I was putting on disguises going back for seconds and thirds of tri-tip, Mike Sando even caught me.
00:36:00
Speaker 3: Weren't you already in here?
00:36:01
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mike, quiet, quiet.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: Don't say anything.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: So I like the media eats up there.
00:36:07
Speaker 4: That was the best part of your trip was getting the media food because the game is done for you.
00:36:12
Speaker 1: Well, I know I did your show with you and Dick on Friday. That was fun, too. So, hey, Dave, awesome, man.
00:36:17
Speaker 2: Great to your as Gary would say, you're a great radio performer. Keep it rolling at KJR. Thanks for coming on KBR and chopping it up with us.
00:36:25
Speaker 1: And we'll see you soon.
00:36:27
Speaker 3: And we'll have you on with us and we'll see if you pick the Hawks to win on KJR. All right. I doubt it. I don't see it happening.
00:36:33
Speaker 2: Dave Softy Mahler, the man that we love to hate.
00:36:38
Speaker 3: All right.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: It's radio hate, but more straight ahead. It's Niners nightly on the sports leader.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.
00:00:01
Speaker 2: Joining us this segment to talk a little bit about the Niners and the Hawks as we go behind enemy lines is Dave Softy Mahler. He's back, and he's bigger and better than ever with a Super Bowl trophy in hand that he earned down here.
00:00:17
Speaker 3: Damn it. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
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Speaker 4: I tell you what, man, one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen was winning a championship on your turf in your stadium.
00:00:26
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: One of the greatest experiences of my life, walking into your building and claiming a second Lombardi trophy. I will never forget that afternoon. Thank you for the hospitality. Thank you for the great weather, by the way, the great food. The only thing that stunk, Larry, was doing a show up in San Francisco and then having to move the entire operation down to Santa Clara. I would have just done the whole damn thing in Santa Clara from the start. Seahawks were staying down there. Obviously, the game was down there, but all the radio row crap, as you know, was up in San Francisco. So that's the only thing that stunk is how spread out the entire thing was. But outside of that, you were great. Everybody was so nice and so sweet. It's almost like you knew the inevitable was happening and why fight it? You knew the Hawks were going to win that game. There was no chance the Seahawks were going to lose that game.
00:01:12
Speaker 3: To the Patriots.
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Speaker 4: So why not fight it, embrace it, and have a good time? And that's what you good people did. So thank you for the experience.
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Speaker 1: Did you get any good rounds of golf up here?
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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't play golf while I was down there, man. We were so busy running around all day long. You know the drill. People look at these trips that we make in this business and think it's all fun and games, but you actually work your ass off when you're on the road.
00:01:33
Speaker 3: You bust your ass even more. When you're on the road. So, you know, we're getting a radio row at 9 a.m.
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Speaker 4: We're leaving at seven o'clock and had a little bit of a day of time on Saturday before the game, but spend it with my wife and some friends.
00:01:45
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you a funny story.
00:01:47
Speaker 4: I dropped off my my co-host Dick Fane at his hotel in San Francisco because he was going to stay overnight in the city and then come to Santa Clara on Sunday morning. I went down to Santa Clara on Friday night. You know how when you usually get out of a car and and it's running, the car.
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Speaker 3: Will tell you that the key is not detected. Okay.
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Speaker 4: So I drop off Dick and I go to the hotel in Santa Clara. I get to the hotel in Santa Clara and long story short, I realized that Dick has the keys to the car.
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Speaker 3: Up in San Francisco.
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Speaker 4: The car never told me that the keys were not in the car. And I shut the car off outside the hotel in Santa Clara. And those idiots had to sit there and just let it be parked for about three or four hours. I had to pay a God darn Uber guy a hundred bucks to drive the keys down from San Francisco to Santa Clara. I literally drove Larry from San Francisco to Santa Clara without car keys.
00:02:40
Speaker 3: First time I've ever done that. And probably the last time.
00:02:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was a very victorious day for you guys. I'll say this.
00:02:48
Speaker 2: Walking out of Lumen Field when you guys slapped the Niners around in the divisional round, I thought there's no way that the Niners are going to be able to close this gap on the Seahawks by next year because of all the different advantages Seattle had, the youth, the age, the cap, the whole deal. But then John Schneider said, we don't need Kenneth Walker. And I think that kind of, even though I have nothing but respect for Schneider, I think that was a gaffe.
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Speaker 1: How have you guys treated that? You guys are now running with Emmanuel Wilson and Joe Nixon.
00:03:24
Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was a mistake when they did it. I said on the air that I would have rather spent the money on Kenny Walker than Rashid Shaheed. I think they gave Rashid 17, then Kenny got 14 or vice versa, whatever. I think I have those numbers right. But anyway, that money that was allocated for Rashid Shaheed was I would have spent it on Kenny Walker. And look, I mean, Rashid Shahid had the touchdown, obviously, on the carry against the Chargers on Sunday. But he only had three touches total in the entire game on offense. He had three targets and he had two carries. So they went to him five times for three touches in that game. And for $ 17 million a year, that's just not enough, Larry. So, look, I mean, I will tell you this. What Andy Reid is doing to Kenny Walker– looks like to be a little bit criminal to me. I mean, he's on pace for like 370 carries. There's no way canines going to be able to handle that. At some point, he's going to get hurt. He's going to break down. and he's not going to be available. So Andy Reed needs to back off the gas. There's no way in hell that Mike McDonald and John Schneider would have allowed that kind of a workload for Kenny Walker here in Seattle because they know his history. But we also know that in the final, what four regular season games and three playoff games a year ago, this team jumped on Kenny Walker's back on offense. I mean, he was phenomenal down the stretch for this football team. I remember, you know, uh, kind of, you know, stretching the numbers out to a 17 game season. He's putting up Christian McCaffrey, honestly, Larry type numbers running and catching last year in the final month and a half of the year. So I would have kept them, but I think what he's doing right now in Kansas city is not sustainable.
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Speaker 3: He's going to break down. He's going to get hurt.
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Speaker 4: The guy's on pace for, you know, what, 36 touchdowns and 2,200 yards rushing, something crazy with the Chiefs. So we are missing him right now. There's no question about it. Emmanuel Wilson looked good against the Chargers, 120 total, a couple touchdowns, which are numbers that you would have taken.
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Speaker 3: From Jadari.
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Speaker 4: And even if he was healthy, you would have taken those numbers out of the rookie from Notre Dame.
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Speaker 3: But now it's Joe Mixon.
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Speaker 4: Zach Charbonnet is coming off the IR, not this week, but should play next week, obviously. You got George Helani. You got some other guys you're elevating from the practice squad. So it really is kind of a by-committee thing right now, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: How does Seattle look in the first month of the year? The record says 3-1. They're 2-0 at home.
00:05:38
Speaker 1: They lost Darnold in the opener for a couple games, so they had to lean on Drew Locke. But Darnold's now back. How does the offense look in the first month?
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Speaker 4: Fine.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they had a backup quarterback. I mean, everything's in context, right?
00:05:51
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they went, you know, about, what, 40 minutes without scoring against the Patriots. And then Drew Locke came alive and got a win. in the fourth quarter against New England, partly because of Drake May's stupidity, throwing that terrible interception into the end zone, by the way, in the corner of the end zone at Lumen Field to win the game for the Seahawks. But I think everything's got to be taken in context. When you've got a backup quarterback, you're not expecting the same kind of production. There's nobody in the NFL that would expect the same kind of production with Drew Locke versus Sam Darnold. So winning those first two games without Sam, And then going to Washington and having Darnold put up the numbers he put up, obviously he had some interceptions in that game. As you know, he's kind of prone to do at times. There's no doubt about that. But he looked pretty damn good for a guy that was basically playing his first game under new offensive coordinator Brian Fleury. The problem in a lot of ways in that game was you Darian price had a fumble that led to an easy touchdown.
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Speaker 3: That's why he got benched.
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Speaker 4: He got benched for about 30 minutes of that game versus Washington. The defense was in a great favorable spot. Third and seven, third and nine, the last drive against Marcus Mariota and the commanders. And they, they allowed the commanders to convert on, on both those plays, which is very atypical for the Seahawk defense. It's starting to become a little bit of a trend that we can talk about in a minute here, Larry, before this game on Sunday. But I think, look, when you're, When your starting quarterback has played two games and your backup quarterback played the other two, to be 3-1 and to be that close to being 4-0, I'll take it, man, no doubt.
00:07:17
Speaker 2: What do you think of Brian Fleury? He's a buddy of mine. I really enjoyed talking to him. He was a very good tight end coach. That's a gigantic jump, though. This has got to be the greatest opportunity of his coaching career. What are the early reviews on Fleury?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, he reminds me of Obi-Wan Kenobi from the 70s. And I'm not talking about Ewan McGregor. I'm talking about Alec Guinness, the original Obi-Wan Kenobi from the 1970s. All the guy needs is a cloak and a lightsaber, and he'll be great on Halloween. But, you know, look, I think he's been fine. You know, I think he's got to find a way, obviously, to get that running game going. But it's hard when you don't have the talent right now. I mean, you've got your top two guys are Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet. And they have not been available together for one game this year. Charbonnet obviously is out probably for this game, if not one more, hopefully back next week, like we said. But Jadarian is now on the IR for four games with a chest injury. So it's going to be week nine, week 10, Larry, before he gets his top two running backs back together again. like they had last year with Kenny Walker and Zach Charbonnet. So that's number one. And then number two, I think he's got to find a way to get Shahid more involved. I mean, this guy's got talent, man. He's not just a special teams guy. I mean, and I'm talking about as a runner, as a wide receiver, I'm kind of underwhelmed a little bit. I think they got to find a way to get him involved more there, but I just want to get the ball in Rashid Shahid's hands. Whether a jet sweep, fly sweep, whatever, little screen play, blah, blah, blah. Anything that gives Rashid Shaheed a chance to get that engine going and get that 4.3 speed going, I'm a fan of. So that to me is almost the next step for Brian Fleury to find a way to get all of his weapons involved and get all of his weapons healthy.
00:08:56
Speaker 1: Underrated pickup getting Emmanuel Wilson. Has Wilson looked, what's the strength of Wilson's game?
00:09:02
Speaker 3: Right up the gut.
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Speaker 4: He's got nothing on the outside. There's no speed there, which is why he's Emmanuel Wilson, right? And not somebody else. That's why he's making a million five. I mean, the market kind of spoke, right? But I think for everything that you expected out of Emmanuel Wilson, this is a guy that Larry, I gotta be honest with you.
00:09:18
Speaker 3: So I had a DJ by the way.
00:09:20
Speaker 4: This is a guy that I was concerned that he wouldn't even make the damn team. that maybe we'd have another Marquez Valdez Scanling on our hands, that he shows up with a little bit of hype and then doesn't even make the roster. in September so good for him number one for making it probably did because of the injuries to be totally honest with you and then number three 120 total two touchdowns in the game against the Chargers which ended up which ended up being a one score game I'll take it like are you kidding me I mean how much more do you want from the guy like I was kind of getting into it on the air yesterday with Dick and Hugh Millen about Emmanuel Wilson I'm like guys what did you expect and Hugh's point was that well he's not very good around the outside well that's why he's making one five right? That's why he was available for one five. So I think we have to put all of this into context for what I was expecting out of Emmanuel Wilson to get what they've gotten out of him so far this year, I think is a bonus.
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Speaker 3: Will they need more from that position to repeat? Absolutely. No question. Well, they need more to beat you guys on Sunday. Absolutely. Right.
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Speaker 4: So this is going to be a test for him this Sunday against the Niners. Uh, if he even ends up playing a lot, who knows, maybe Joe Mixon coming out of moth balls ends up being the guy, uh, this Sunday against you guys.
00:10:31
Speaker 3: But for, for what we.
00:10:32
Speaker 4: Expected out of Wilson, I will absolutely take it and run what he's given us so far.
00:10:37
Speaker 3: No doubt.
00:10:38
Speaker 2: Um, you know, the, the moves that John Schneider has made, I mean, he's a great GM, but, but, um, You know, a couple of those moves.
00:10:45
Speaker 1: That he made, if he had made them here, there would have been huge protests.
00:10:49
Speaker 3: Like what? Tell me. Well, Terry on Arnold, Joe Mixon. I get it. Yeah.
00:10:54
Speaker 2: The problem's off the field. You know, Seattle's an interesting market, but what are the fans like? You talk to the fans on your show. Were there people, did you take any calls on KGR from people going, I'm turned off by this?
00:11:07
Speaker 1: I don't like domestic violence abusers.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: I don't like Terry on Arnold.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: Because of the issues he's had. Or is it like, you know what? go Hawks, go Hawks. And, you know, God bless John Schneider.
00:11:17
Speaker 4: Right. Well, first of all, I would hope that we all can agree that we don't like domestic violence abusers.
00:11:23
Speaker 3: Number one, let's just kind of throw that out there. Right.
00:11:26
Speaker 4: But I'm going back to the video is awful. When he was in Oklahoma, all of us saw it 10 years ago, but it was, you know, 10 years ago, it was 2016 when he was in, in Norman. So, I'm not saying that you excuse it, but I think you do look at his track record since then and wonder, is he the same guy that he was.
00:11:46
Speaker 3: 10 years ago? You'll never, ever get over that.
00:11:49
Speaker 4: I think if you're Joe Mixon, if you don't want to sign him because you don't even want that remotely.
00:11:54
Speaker 3: Associated Larry with your football team. I get it. I totally get it. And you know what?
00:11:59
Speaker 4: I mean, the juice may not be worth the squeeze, right?
00:12:01
Speaker 3: Whatever.
00:12:02
Speaker 4: Feedback, whatever flack they get for signing Joe Mixon as a backup third string practice squad running back? Is it really worth it in the end? Frankly, I think it's more worth it with Terry on Arnold because Terry on Arnold, if he ever does get cleared by the NFL, might start for this football team, right? It's like the thing with Kaepernick. I mean, if you're going to bring on Kaepernick, man, you better be getting something in return for all the PR that you're going to take. And if he's a backup quarterback, then is it really freaking worth it? Probably not, right? Especially now that he's 100 years old.
00:12:31
Speaker 3: But I get it.
00:12:33
Speaker 4: I do think the Hawks made a mistake about 10 years ago when they drafted Frank Clark. And there was all the controversy coming out of college with Frank Clark. And John Schneider said at a press conference on draft night, they would never draft a player who they thought put his hands on a woman. Well, here they are grabbing Joe Mixon who clocked a woman in college and it's on video for everyone to see. So I think when you make proclamations like that, people hold you to it. Shockingly, you know, some folks actually remember and they hold you to it. So I don't know if John Schneider needed, needed to say anything like that 10 years ago, because you never know what kind of position you're going to be in. But the Terry and Arnold thing, Larry, to me is different. I mean, He's either free and clear or he's not right there. There's no in between. It's not like, you know, he's going to get convicted of a crime and go do three months in the can and then come back and play for the Seahawks. I mean, Roger Goodell will decide the NFL will decide in the end if Terry and Arnold can play for Seattle. And if he is clear, then that would inevitably mean that he's been cleared of any wrongdoing in this case that he's involved in. So to me, that's more that's more black and white than the Joe Mixon thing is.
00:13:43
Speaker 2: We're talking to Dave Softy-Mahler on the UMA guest line as we chop it up and talk a little bit about Niners and Hawks.
00:13:50
Speaker 1: It's Hawks week.
00:13:51
Speaker 2: Niners in Seattle on Sunday in week four trying to run their record to 5-0. And it's going to be a huge challenge. Toughest game of the year to date. First of all, I've got to ask you about Clint Kubiak.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: He might be the hottest name in football right now. He went to the Raiders.
00:14:07
Speaker 3: He is turning the Raiders around.
00:14:11
Speaker 1: Is there.
00:14:12
Speaker 2: you were around Clint Kubiak up there. He was down here before that. What do you think of Clint Kubiak? What makes him so special? His brother, Clay, I would imagine is going to get a head coach in this next cycle.
00:14:23
Speaker 3: Oh, no question.
00:14:24
Speaker 4: I mean, anybody with a last name Kubiak is going to get a chance, right? Does, does Kyle have any kids by the way, that are eligible yet to play?
00:14:32
Speaker 1: No, they're still, still kind of young.
00:14:35
Speaker 3: I mean, nepotism rules, right?
00:14:37
Speaker 4: And the national football league, man, there's no question about that, but, A couple of things. First of all, I'd be a little bit careful in saying that Clint Kubiak has turned the Raiders around. Are they a better product right now than what they were a year ago? Yeah, but they've got New England. They got Buffalo. They got the Rams. Then they got the Niners, the Seahawks all coming up and like five of the next six games and Denver. Why don't we check in with the Raiders and like on Thanksgiving? And we'll see what their record looks like after that schedule that they've got coming up here. But you know, my, my concern with Clint was always his personality, right? He didn't strike me as a guy that has got what it takes personality wise to lead a locker room and to be a guy that, you know, commands and demands respect. And he was kind of a quiet guy when he was here, you know, I mean, Mike McDonald, obviously you saw in hard knocks kind of what he's all about and the way he kind of, you know resides over his football team and the presence that he's got. So, I've always been a little bit nervous about his personality, Larry. But if he's that great of an offensive mind and he's that smart of a coordinator and he's got that big of a leg up on defensive coordinators around the NFL, he could be the most, you know, inverted, boring person walking the face of the earth. But if he's a mad scientist, that may not matter. So, again, I would just I would just hold off on that. He's turned the Raiders around thing until we get to Thanksgiving.
00:15:59
Speaker 2: Are the Hawks playing? Are they on their game right now? I was looking at their highlights last week. They had 14 penalties for a franchise record, 150 yards.
00:16:09
Speaker 3: Right.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: Were those pre-snap penalties? Is that a concern or is it no concern?
00:16:14
Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I like the fact that you can win a game with 150 yards and penalties. I mean, most teams can't overcome that, right? So that's number one, a great thing for the Hawks. And it was actually 15 because they had one that was offset early in the game on Devin Witherspoon. So they got flagged 15 times. Larry, between the Husky-USC game Saturday and the Seahawks game on Sunday, we had 49 flags called in those two games combined.
00:16:38
Speaker 3: I was gross.
00:16:39
Speaker 4: Like every time I see something yellow, I think it's a flag for God's sakes. I see a yellow cleat of a charger player on Sunday. I think, Oh, here we go again. Another damn flag. It's not a huge concern. You know, I mean, there was a lot of unsportsmanlikes. There were a lot of personal fouls, some procedural penalties. I mean, most of them were legit to be totally honest with you. Nicky Manwari had one where he grabbed the guy's face mask and almost ripped his head off. He got into a guy's face, obviously early in the game. and was talking some smack, that was a problem. So I just think it's awesome that you can actually learn these lessons, but do it in a win, right? Like, it'd be one thing if, hey, man, you guys sacrificed a win because you're all knuckleheads. And you acted like, you know, brain dead morons and got yourself 14 flags. A lot of them were of the 15 yard variety. You just pissed away a victory. Well, no, they actually won the game. So the fact that Mike McDonald can take this as a learning lesson for the rest of the year, but get it in a win to me is a huge step for this football team. There's actually a part of me, Larry, totally. That's glad it happened.
00:17:41
Speaker 3: Honestly.
00:17:41
Speaker 4: I mean, what are the odds of the Seahawks having another game like that the rest of the way because of what they went through on Sunday?
00:17:48
Speaker 3: I think it's great.
00:17:49
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting.
00:17:49
Speaker 2: The Niners are the least penalized team in football. And Shanahan was asked that question. Hey, why are you the least penalized team in football? And his answer was like, you know, we've had some crews that don't call a lot of penalties. And people laughed at that.
00:18:00
Speaker 3: But you know what?
00:18:01
Speaker 1: If you watch this game with.
00:18:03
Speaker 2: Seattle and the Chargers, the Chargers had 16 penalties in that game for 130 yards.
00:18:08
Speaker 3: Scott Novak. Scott Novak.
00:18:10
Speaker 4: He was in charge of the other game that was the second highest game this year with the most flags in the NFL. I don't know what it is about that guy, but, man, he loves calling.
00:18:18
Speaker 3: He loves seeing himself on TV, I'll tell you that.
00:18:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so that's, you know, that's probably the bigger deal. That's probably the story more than anything.
00:18:25
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams limped to the medical tent in the third quarter of that Chargers game with an ankle injury. What's his status? What is the Seahawks– you know, physical status for this game. Who's banged up. Who's not going to go.
00:18:38
Speaker 4: Well, the big ones are running back position, obviously, you know, just keep an eye on that. You know, who gets called up from the practice squad, who gets activated by the way, for the game on Sundays, that's number one. And then number two, the right guard situation, Anthony Bradford had been the starter and he was kind of a guy that people like to beat up on a lot a year ago. I mean, look, every offensive line has the fifth best lineman, right? I mean, if we rank them all, you know, every team, your team, my team, every team in the NFL has the worst of the five. And Anthony Bradford was considered by far the worst of those five guys by most Seahawks fans and most media members last year. I thought he got better as the year went on, but he's banged up right now. And they've been going with Christian Haynes, who's what the third year guy out of UConn. And then they've been going with Bo Stevens, who's the rookie out of Iowa. So, Bo got a lot of playing time in the game on Sunday versus the chargers. Not sure what their plan is there yet at right guard. Um, I think from Leonard Williams standpoint, he's going to be a game time decision, man. I mean, obviously he's a key cog in that thing. He can play inside. He can play outside. He's almost a captain of the defensive line. So we have to wait until Sunday on that one, but the two big ones are the right guard spot and the running back spot for, for Sunday no doubt.
00:19:46
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald called it a learning lesson he had a little little comment that that ruffled some feathers For those who missed the story, tell us the story here.
00:19:57
Speaker 1: What happened between McDonald and the Broncos?
00:20:01
Speaker 4: Okay, so that was– I didn't know where you were going. I thought you were going to go back to the Charger game. The learning lesson is that Mike McDonald does an interview with a guy, Graham whatever the hell his name is.
00:20:12
Speaker 3: Graham Bensinger.
00:20:13
Speaker 4: Graham Bensinger, who I honestly had never heard of until this whole story showed up. I mean, no disrespect to him, but there's a lot of guys that I haven't heard of. Does an interview with Graham, and off the air– They're having a conversation that apparently is being recorded, and he's talking about how during the Bronco game a couple years ago, they were able to get a hold of some Twitter video from fans that were at Bronco training camp, and they poured over it, and they looked to see if they could find any advantages from video that was made online. public, which Sean Payton has a right to do the exact same thing. I mean, you go to see our training camp at the V Mac and there's a portion of the training camp practice, Larry. I'm not sure what the Niners do. But there's a portion of the Seahawks training camp practice where they will literally announce over the microphone, do not record. Please turn your phones off because we're going to start getting into some sensitive stuff. So number one, you got to trust people that they're not doing that. And then number two, whatever you were allowing the fans to record earlier, if you put something on the field that gets recorded during a time where fans are allowed to record video, That's on you.
00:21:21
Speaker 3: That's your fault.
00:21:22
Speaker 4: If you're Sean Payton, because one of the big reasons why fans go to training camp is so they can go on social media and tell people I was at training camp and they want to, they, they want to pump their chest out. They want to act like they, they got something that nobody else has. So of course people are going to post on Instagram and YouTube and Twitter. So I don't know if the Hawks really found anything big time, you know, detail-y or, you know, detail oriented that really helped them in the Bronco game. But he admitted that to Graham Bensinger and the Broncos got pissed and thought they were violating some code in the NFL, some Spygate type thing, which is obviously idiotic, totally different than Spygate. Spygate was in a stadium during a walkthrough with a practice and a camera that wasn't supposed to be there. So he learned his lesson, you know, even off the record stuff, you know, sometimes can can be taken out of context and be reported and recorded. I mean, I I think Graham Bensinger and his entire show come off as a bunch of jackasses just ruining it for everybody. And man, I feel bad for the local media here in Seattle that, you know, rely on off the record conversations with guys as you and I both do. sometimes to kind of pick up intel and push us in the right direction so we'll see how candid mike mcdonald is down the road about this stuff we'll see if he clams up a little bit now down the road both on the podium and off the mic with that with local media because of that thing.
00:22:42
Speaker 1: He went through yep seahawks in denver in week six that adds a little juice to that.
00:22:47
Speaker 3: One thursday night football yes sir.
00:22:49
Speaker 1: Oh man it's it should be good let's talk a little hard knocks um yep Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch are adamant, Dave, that they do not want to participate in hard knocks.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: They feel like they'll give stuff away.
00:23:03
Speaker 1: They feel like it's a competitive disadvantage. Hard knocks this summer parked their their deal in Seattle's camp.
00:23:10
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the facility looks gorgeous.
00:23:12
Speaker 3: Come on up, man.
00:23:13
Speaker 1: It looks amazing. Absolutely amazing. I'm shocked by how great their facility is.
00:23:20
Speaker 3: It's right on the water, huh?
00:23:21
Speaker 4: And there's no power plant nearby, so nobody's worried about getting sick, by the way.
00:23:26
Speaker 3: We're not concerned about that. By the way, is that a real thing in your mind? No, no, no. It's been debunked.
00:23:32
Speaker 1: It's been debunked. It's not a real thing.
00:23:37
Speaker 4: But first of all, let me just ask you this. Cause that that's their practice facility. Is that correct? Or is that right outside Levi's? Where's that at?
00:23:44
Speaker 2: The stadium is right there. The, and it's all right there. It's all right. The substation, the stadium and the practice field are all.
00:23:52
Speaker 3: It looks, it looks, it looks gnarly.
00:23:54
Speaker 4: Like honestly, like from a, as from an aesthetic perspective, it looks ridiculous that you would have a substation right next to your practice facility. I mean, Can you put up a big wall or something? Or I don't know, maybe, you know, build like a giant hedge or whatever, because it looks awful.
00:24:11
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
00:24:12
Speaker 2: They have a green fence on the bottom level, but it's like put that thing.
00:24:16
Speaker 1: Up for three or four stories.
00:24:17
Speaker 2: 100% that view, because what's happening is in every practice picture or video, there is this gigantic substation. And then, you know, perception becomes reality and that kind of thing. But it's been pretty much debunked. They are going to buy they are going to build themselves a brand new practice facility, but not because of that, because they've got their you know, they've got this part of the organization in this building and they got this part of the organization in that building. And eventually they'd like it to be under one roof. But what did you think of the hard knocks experience? What do you think of the way that they showed the Hawks? And, you know, how do you guys have you guys discussed? the impact it had or maybe the.
00:24:55
Speaker 3: Lack of it.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:24:56
Speaker 4: No, we talked about it on the air. I thought the first episode was fine, and then it got boring from there. I thought in the end it was extremely boring, right? I mean, it was fun to kind of look in on conversations that John Schneider's having with Terry on Arnold's agent. You know, fun to look in on conversations that, you know, Mike McDonald is having with, you know, guests and dignitaries. You know, Mitch Johnson, the coach of the Spurs, was in his office and, you know, seeing the families and the kids and all that stuff. But it was kind of boring. I mean, there really wasn't a lot there. And I think the problem for me with, with hard knocks, you know, number one, I'm not a gigantic hard knock junkie to begin with the way some other people are, but now that the NFL only has the one cut down day, Larry, and doesn't have the first cut down, obviously from nine to 75, you're not.
00:25:41
Speaker 3: Getting the cut downs.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: You're not getting guys getting released and throwing fits by the way, like we had back in the day, that was the best part.
00:25:46
Speaker 3: You know, when a guy would come in there.
00:25:48
Speaker 4: And a son, I got to sit you down and he, He gets told he's being released and he starts crying and he gets pissed off and starts throwing stuff and they have to escort him out of a building. That's the kind of stuff I want to see. And you're not seeing any of that anymore with hard knocks because of the one cut down day the NFL has to offer. So, I mean, there were obviously some stars. Montori Foster Jr., who was a substitute teacher that made the Seahawks roster as more of a special teams guy.
00:26:14
Speaker 3: He was a big focal point. Derek Hall was a big focal point.
00:26:17
Speaker 1: With those shorts and that truck.
00:26:21
Speaker 3: I mean, it's terrible.
00:26:22
Speaker 1: Just awful.
00:26:24
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like Derek, put some pants on for God's sakes, man. Nobody wants to see that. Right.
00:26:28
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, the way McDonald was talked to him when he was kind of getting out of control during practice and, you know, maybe getting a little bit too close to injuring Sam Darnold.
00:26:36
Speaker 3: Those conversations were great.
00:26:37
Speaker 4: It was nice to see that side of McDonald because I've thought that side was there for a while, Larry, but nobody really saw it until hard knocks. And I think a reason why nobody really saw it is because the guy was only in his first couple of years of being a head coach in the NFL. Now that he's got a championship under his belt, I think more of that's coming out. You're seeing a more relaxed McDonald, a more jovial McDonald, goofing around a little bit more. He's in a better mood. There's more personality coming out. So he was pretty guarded. He was actually pretty boring the first couple years, first year and a half he was here in Seattle. So we did see some of that come out in hard knocks. for the most part, I thought it was pretty boring to be.
00:27:16
Speaker 3: Honest with you.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: Let's finish with the, we kind of buried the lead.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: If you talk Seahawks, you got to talk defense and McDonald's defensive coach.
00:27:22
Speaker 4: We got to go back to your comment, by the way, about Kyle and John turning the Niners around in, in, you know, this year, you said there was a big gap between the Hawks and Niners a year ago, and you were curious if they could turn it around and, I may eat these words, by the way, on Sunday, but let's not forget, man, what happened last year. You came on our radio show and you're talking all kinds of smack about the playoff game and we're going to get you and blah, blah, blah. And don't forget, that was a Niner team last year before they played the Seahawks in Santa Clara, which was for the de facto NFC West Championship. You guys were on a roll. You were on a freaking roll. You'd won six in a row. You just came off a big win against the Bears.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: We had no George Kittle.
00:28:08
Speaker 3: We had no everybody. 47-41 against Arizona. And then what happened? Pow!
00:28:13
Speaker 4: You run right into a freaking sledgehammer called the Seahawks dark side defense, and they kick your ass in week 18, and they kicked your ass in the playoff game in Seattle. So let's hold off a little bit, big boy.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: Just a little bit. Fair enough.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: Let's talk, though, about this matchup, because there are some people that believe here that that Mike McDonald has Kyle Shanahan's number. Kyle has not been able to produce a touchdown in the last two appearances.
00:28:42
Speaker 1: And what's, what I'm seeing in the, you know, not getting.
00:28:44
Speaker 2: Too football esoteric, but basically the Hawks are playing with light boxes and still stopping the run because their defensive front with Murphy and Reed and Leonard Williams cannot be uprooted by the Niners offensive line. And again, Um, the, so the Seahawks can go with light boxes, take away the explosives in the past game and just allow their, their front, you know, to, to kind of wreck shop up front. Um, is that going to continue? How has this defense looked this year compared to what we saw at the end of last year?
00:29:18
Speaker 3: Well, it's an amazing tackling back seven, right? That's part of it.
00:29:21
Speaker 4: That first of all, you got a guy in Nikki Manwari, uh, you know, number three wearing Russell Wilson's old number who was out the first couple of games of the year with an ankle injury, but he's back now. Go back and watch the Charger game, and this is a guy who's a safety who's being used at a four point stance on the defensive line, rushing the passer. I mean, it's just like camp chancellor, honestly, Larry didn't even do that.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Right.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: And cam chancellor was maybe the greatest strong safety in Seattle Seahawk history. One of the greatest strong safeties of all time. And he wasn't even doing that. So the way that they are using this Swiss army knife and Nikki Manwari is, is unbelievable. They can use them in coverage. They can use him as an outside backer. They can use him as an edge rusher. He's all over the place. So keep an eye on number three. And then, look, I mean, I don't know if I can remember in a long time a Seahawks secondary that closes the way this one does.
00:30:09
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not a lot of room to operate, number one.
00:30:12
Speaker 4: And number two, when there is a completion, there's two, three guys right there to make a tackle. Devin Witherspoon is one of the best tackling defensive backs I've ever seen in my life. He's one of the best blitzing defensive backs I've ever seen. You saw what he did to Drake May in the Super Bowl. You could have argued that Witherspoon should have been the MVP in that game for the way.
00:30:32
Speaker 3: That he played.
00:30:32
Speaker 4: So when you see corners and you see safeties, those aren't just corners and safeties, man.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: Those are edge rushers. Those are outside linebackers. And those are blitzers.
00:30:41
Speaker 4: So the pressure and the pain is coming from every layer of this defense. And that's why they can play the defense they can. Also getting Julian Love back is gigantic. I mean, they missed him in the Washington game. He's the Earl Thomas man of this defense. He's the safety back there. Free safety number 20. Everything they do in a lot of ways kind of revolves around Julian Love. And they did not have him in the commander game. They had him last week and it paid off. And you saw why.
00:31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a superstar against the Niners, and every single game he plays against the Niners, he looks like Hall of Famer.
00:31:12
Speaker 1: To me, the key is turnovers.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: The Hawks are 3-1, and the three wins are plus six in turnovers, and the one loss, they're minus three. What happened in that Commander's game?
00:31:22
Speaker 3: Was it just turnovers?
00:31:23
Speaker 4: Jadarian Price had a fumble that led to an easy touchdown for the Commanders inside Seahawk territory. And then on third and seven and third and nine, the last drive of the game against old man Mariota, they couldn't get off the field.
00:31:34
Speaker 3: I mean, which is shocking, right?
00:31:35
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of, you know, I started the show by talking about that, that there's a little bit of a small sliver of a trend developing with this defense that I don't like. In the Patriot game, third and long, fourth and long, late in the game, Drake may was able to keep drives going. And if not for that interception in the corner there, they would have probably won the game. So that was concerning. Third and seven, third and nine against the Commanders on a drive where they had to get a stop to get the ball back to Sam Darnold to win the game.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: They couldn't get off the field. And then on.
00:32:08
Speaker 4: Sunday, fourth and seven, up 10, deep inside Charger territory. Herbert hits Johnston for 44 yards on fourth and seven to keep that thing going. So there's been three games this year where the Seahawks defense has been in very favorable positions defensively. and just could not get off the field. So to me, it's just kind of something to keep an eye on and see if that trend develops into a bigger concern for these guys.
00:32:34
Speaker 1: Man, it's always great to wrap with you.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Give me your quick thought on Purdy and the Niners on the way out here.
00:32:41
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners are a better team, I think, than they were.
00:32:44
Speaker 2: But Purdy, it's a lot about Brock Purdy.
00:32:46
Speaker 1: He's playing like an MVP. What do you see with the Niners? What do you see with Purdy?
00:32:50
Speaker 4: Well, you know where I stand on Brock Purdy. I told you last year where I stand on Brock Purdy.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: You're a believer.
00:32:55
Speaker 4: Where are all the idiots that were calling for this guy to be benched a year ago? Where are all the dipsticks and the morons last year that wanted to jump off Brock Purdy's wagon? I mean, where are all those clowns? You know, are they, are they, are they still talking? Are they still running their pie holes? Are they actually hanging their balls out there and, you know, going on record saying they were wrong.
00:33:14
Speaker 3: About this guy.
00:33:14
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I like him. I mean, is he slightly overpaid? Okay, fine, but, you know, dude, every quarterback in the NFL is overpaid, right? I mean, Sam Darnold's probably going to make $ 50 million after this year comes to an end. Does he deserve $ 50 million? Does Baker Mayfield deserve $ 50 million? Does Trevor Lawrence deserve 50? Probably not. But that's the market, guys, and the cap is going up exponentially every damn year. What do you care? They'll figure it out. I mean, if John and Kyle know what the hell they're doing, they'll figure it out. They'll draft better. They'll get some nice young hot shots that are making nothing to compliment Brock Purdy.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: So you know where I stand on this guy.
00:33:49
Speaker 4: I think any 49er fan that wants to move on from Brock Purdy like all those dopes last year wanted to, you guys are as dumb as the day is long, and you're finding out now why with the way the guy's playing.
00:34:00
Speaker 2: The spread opened at Hawks minus three. It's the money came in on the Niners. It's Hawks minus two and a half. I think the 49ers are going to pull the upset. Well, you always think that.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: Well, I'm never going on KGR and saying, well, you guys are going to kick our ass. I'm just not going.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: To do it.
00:34:16
Speaker 4: Larry, I went on your show last year before week 18. And I think I thought I told you the Niners were going to win the game. I thought you were going to get us in week 18 a year ago, and I was wrong. So are you going to give us your honest opinion, or you want to just be a homer here?
00:34:31
Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing now, Larry? No, I'm not a homer. In your golden age, is that what you're doing?
00:34:36
Speaker 4: Whatever happened to the guy that I knew back in the day with Radnich that would hang his nuts out there and say whatever he wanted to? And the Niner fans and the listeners be damned. What happened to that guy who spoke his mind? I, I, you know what?
00:34:48
Speaker 2: I just, I cannot, there's the bitterness between the Niners and the Hawks is too great. I can't go on KJR and, and give it up that easy, but I do think Niners get them this week. Give me your prediction on the, on the game.
00:34:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, man, I just think that it would not surprise me if the Niners won. I think the Seahawks have obviously some work to do with their running game. That concerns me a little bit. I would love to have Jadari and price and Zach Charbonnet available. for this game, but they're both not going to play. So again, this is going to be the Emmanuel Wilson show. It's going to be the Sam Darnold, Jackson Smith and Jigba show really in the end.
00:35:22
Speaker 3: It's all about that defense, man.
00:35:23
Speaker 4: If this defense does their job and they hold the Niners offense to under 20 points, which they should be able to do. because for the most part, they do that against everybody. I think we're going to have a game in the fourth quarter, but I think because they're at home, the Hawks will pull it out.
00:35:36
Speaker 3: Wipe that crap-eating grin off your face, by the way.
00:35:39
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:35:40
Speaker 3: There you go.
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Dave's picking the Hawks. I'm picking the Niners.
00:35:43
Speaker 3: Shocking.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: What's the point? The place is going to be rocking. It's going to be rocking.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: And I will say, you know, you guys did the tri-tip in the playoffs was just fantastic. I mean, I was putting on disguises going back for seconds and thirds of tri-tip, Mike Sando even caught me.
00:36:00
Speaker 3: Weren't you already in here?
00:36:01
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mike, quiet, quiet.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: Don't say anything.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: So I like the media eats up there.
00:36:07
Speaker 4: That was the best part of your trip was getting the media food because the game is done for you.
00:36:12
Speaker 1: Well, I know I did your show with you and Dick on Friday. That was fun, too. So, hey, Dave, awesome, man.
00:36:17
Speaker 2: Great to your as Gary would say, you're a great radio performer. Keep it rolling at KJR. Thanks for coming on KBR and chopping it up with us.
00:36:25
Speaker 1: And we'll see you soon.
00:36:27
Speaker 3: And we'll have you on with us and we'll see if you pick the Hawks to win on KJR. All right. I doubt it. I don't see it happening.
00:36:33
Speaker 2: Dave Softy Mahler, the man that we love to hate.
00:36:38
Speaker 3: All right.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: It's radio hate, but more straight ahead. It's Niners nightly on the sports leader.
