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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is still beeping with the Move the Sticks podcast. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hanzas and I enjoined my room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosval. What's up boys? Hey Dan? I am excited. This is one of those shows where Cessler got no sleep. Last night's Live Wire Cessler wild odds. Cessler went to bed at ten thirty, woke up around ten fifty, never went back to sleep. Not sure why. So anything's possible with Mark. I almost wish we had the Fantasy Outsider on today because on the Street Corner it would have been especially demented. I feel like, listen, I'm not feeling it. We'll just up to see what happens. All right? Good? Before the show, Mark made a comment, was something wrong was on? Would this be a good show for me to be completely checked out? Is that? Can we? We can arrange it? Not that different than a normal show. Well, too many speaking parts. So by the way I was, I was off yesterday and avanting around the West coast. That's one way to put it. But when you're married, h thirty five year old with a one year old son. There's no more Gallivanter. It's over. I was doing errands, running them around the city, and then relieving my babysitter. That's a lot of fun rock and roll lifestyle. But I'm not completely, um, you know, unplugged from what's going on. I checked Twitter, got a tweet, a couple of tweets actually, UM about our friend UH or Daniel Jared or Moolley Mulla. I don't I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Three quarterback right? He did? He played above high school level UH for a few years, and apparently they give him a podcast, which is, you know, cute. He talked about us, So TV do we have that? I just I might as well. We might as well address it. UH less people think we're running. We've got the around the NFL guys that are gonna try and talk about toasters. So if you're into, like, you know, kitchen alances around here is your show. Bucky really liked that joke, Ye, Bucky. I hope Bucky enjoyed his time on the podcast. Because it's over. Um, you haven't done a show in three and a half months. You probably have a lot of pent up frustration with many co workers. So I understand where DJ is coming from. And let's let's be honest, we get it. You always want that you're hitting up at the number one. Come at us, you know, with a number one game in the land here. So if you want to come at it, come at it. I would do the same thing. That's how you get publicity. You come at the number one. I'm putting on full of Mike friends here. Come with the number one. Come with the number one. I'm not gonna worry about it. Well, I don't got nothing to say about him. Is Jeremiah the podcast world's and trill role at this point? Wow? Strong, very strong. Yeah, well that's that's a good it's a good connection there. Yes, I'm gonna say he is. Mark plus the Toaster, which we're doing today, one of the most popular segments on the show. Finally, Greg Acknology of Greg listens nothing like coming at Me. I listened to this at fifteen at night. I was grocery shopping for some reason at eleven fifteen, And by the way, this is the only reason I would listen to move the six podcast. At this point I heard there was some beef to hear what happens got me, you know, got me all fired up and made me defensive of the toaster grocery shopping. I don't know, you know, I want to party with you. I figured it might as well be productive. I like it. I mean, yeah, DJ former quarterback at the college level. He's a competitive guy by nature. He wants to come at the number one. We'll come at the number one. We're here, We're not going anywhere. He just did. Well, keep coming. I'm not afraid it's scarred, all right. Coming up on the show, you a DJ, A little shot right back at you, buddy, coming up on today's show, like a minute and a half, taking shot to him. Well, he had one. Uh. Coming up on today's show. We got a lot to get to. We're gonna do a little bit of new excuse me, alright, gentlemen, listen, we're human beings, decent, infallible. We do a little news. Of course, that's what the NFL network is looking for. I've heard I will demand TD scrubs that from the from the audio end video, which, by the way, you can watch us on YouTube now if if it's easier for you to access us on YouTube where there you could also watch us on on the NFL dot com website somewhere NFL now you can find it there maybe, but you can definitely find us at YouTube and maybe we can get a YouTube channel at some point TV to give people a link that has everything. Well, we're on the NFL channel. Is there like sub channels for YouTube? We we have the NFL channel. Don't try to take over the board just yet, Dan, And then on that we have the around the NFL playlist. And by the way, the fun fact about the YouTube clips is that you can skip two segments as you please if you check the show. And I saw that it looks very good and everybody's doing a very nice job behind the glass and behind the scenes getting us on the video side of things. But anyways, for today's show, we're gonna do some news. We're gonna talk about teams that we feel are destined to fall short of expectations. Um subtitle I'm not mad, Todd, I'm just disappointed. And then finally as and then finally yes, it is hinted by DJ and Greg we will bring back the game of skill and valor known as when West's Toaster get excited. We asked West when he came into are you ready for this? Are you prepared? And he didn't even know what was happening today and he's in his zone. He doesn't even care. He's just gonna moan down very Tyson in Tokyo. That's the Tyson Tokyo moment. That's when I took you out with the uppercut. I don't remember being unconcerned when you took me out. Well, you should have studied a little harder. All right, let's go behind the glass and check in with t V. Hey doing, buddy? What is going on? Guys? Um glad to be here Friday? Good show though we had uh you know this is on YouTube like you said, so it's moved to six so it is DD piece and check it old out, guys. I want to start getting I know you don't have any loyalties to our show, really, but I would like to hear maybe from you, maybe loyal to the game if I can get a text from you when DJ is taking shots, so I don't have to hear it from you know. TV probably didn't want us listening to that episode because DJ also was taking shots and not so sadly getting annoyed by TV jumping into the show too much. So at least it's not it's funny to hear that another show. Now you're just making stuff up. I'm not I would say this, Dan again, come with the can you best not miss? Yes? Very good? The wire. All right, let's do some news. I agree, that's a good point. All right, let's get right into it. We'll start with the Pittsburgh Steelers bad news are one of our making the Leap candidates. Wide receiver Martavis Bryant, who will uh is facing a four game suspension for violating the NFL's policy on Substances of abuse. According to rap Sheet, this is tied back to multiple marijuana tests that have been failed. So Martavis Bryant smoking stick and it's cost them the beginning of the season potentially. Well. I think Mike Tomlin came out in March and said this could be the best offense in the NFL because when Martavis Bryant hit the starting lineup after the Week seven by they averaged thirty one points a game. They were arguably the most explosive offense in the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger's passer rating was fifteen points higher with Martavis Bryant. The lineup. He averaged seventy more passing yards per game with Bryant in the lineup. That's those are amazing numbers. This team was three and three in Week seven and they went eight and to the rest of the way with mart Tavis Bryant. They were completely different offense. And you've got Levy on Belle, Martavis Bryant and Marcus Pouncey won't be there early in the season. This is a team the last two years has been slow out of the gates two thousand thirteen. It kept them out of the playoffs. Last year. It hurt them a little bit too. They had to play catch up all year. This kickoff game between the Steelers and Patriots is feeling like a Week two preseason until let's just slop it out with something at this point, give me a break. It's a it's a lot of fun. Jimmy Garoppolo, Dion Lewis, You've got Darius Hayward Bay running routes for the Steelers. We're tuning in kickoff week four. Whatever it'll be, it'll be exciting. But you're right, all the optimism about the Steelers offense, I mean, Pouncy is the biggest problem. They can replace Bryant for four weeks, but it is amazing when when Rothsburger through those hand may I think they can survive as an offense. Leavy and Bell will be back game instead of thirty three or whatever. I mean, it's it's a different way to win a game. And you've already got questions on defense, where you've got all these young players you have to work in early. This is a flawed team in September. I think they're a team that's gonna have to score that many points because of the defense. I mean, we've seen nothing from the defense so far. Well, I think that there you raise a good point. There chances to be a Super Bowl winner this year or or contender. Is the defense improving dramatically, which I think it has a chance to do. I'm not I don't really care about what I've seen in the preseason. They have a pretty young roster, they have young pass rushers, they have a completely rebuilt secondary. They were terrible last year. I think just the change is a good thing. And you're right, the defense is gonna have to be a lot better in September than they were a year ago. Martavis Bryant played just three d and six regular season snaps, twenty six catches, five nine yards, eight touchdowns, and the league leading twenty one point one yards per catch average. So this is a substantial loss and the reason he was on our making the Leap list because we thought this guy could enter stud territory. Everyone that is fading from society. I don't want to hear any more criticism. Odell Beckham played eleven games last year. Brian can come back play twelve have a great season. You know who was on the Making the List leap list two years ago, Marcus Wheat and we were just a year year and not great. But he's gonna have a great season this year because Brian's out of the mix. Wait, Big Bend hyped him in early August, like just blowing smoke. Do you think that was because he knew Mark Tavis Bryant was going to be sure we were wonder in that yesterday. Well, these teams know about these suspensions many times, well before they're announced. I think, if nothing else, the team knew about it. And that's why Wheaton has been the starter and getting the starter snaps. That kind of explains. While Wheaton is stayed ahead and bright the loser. Here is all these fantasy heads that wrote roughly seven or eight hundred articles about the Wheaton verse Bryant controversy in Pittsburgh that inaccurate seven or eight Had this happened a month ago, you save a lot of people a lot of typing. And Gregg's right, by the way, there is no making the leave curse. It's not like Geno Smith was on the list Indians Alright. Moving on horrible news for the Washington Redskins. They signed JR. Gallet to a one year deal last month. Think they could get a little sneaky steel uh and a real pass rusher in their defense if he would be able to uh keep his nose clean and not be a monster like he was in New Orleans. So it's not gonna happen towards Achilles in practice on Wednesday, UM and he's out for the year. Will undergo surgery on Friday, UM. West. This is an injury that that really kills the defense that needed Golette to have an impact for them to really probably have any chance to be competitive. Right, They've got a couple of second round picks, Trent Murphy and Preston Smith. They've drafted the past two years. But if they like those guys enough to start them, why did they sign Junior Glette in the first place. It tells you that those guys weren't ready to make a difference. To me, a little preview here. We've got to do our power rankings one to thirty two for all the NFL teams. The Redskins will not be in the top thirty one on my list. Not gonna make the cut. Yeah, it's people, forget it. It's a terrible it's a terrible roster. Scott mcglewin shows up. People, Okay, they're on the they're on the right track. He's gonna do the right things. It's gonna take a while for him to get his players, and he didn't have a dramatic offseason. This is essentially the same team that has won seven games the last two years combined, I believe, I mean so, they are right there with the very worst rosters in the league. And there's not any reason to think based off the last month unless you believe that Jay Gruden getting mad about people calling him fat is going to motivate everyone that they're going to get better. It's hard like to think of North and North of Joe Filben, a coach that's in a worse situation than Jake Ruden right now, because I think he's much worse than Joe Phil Well, he's you got a bottom a bottom three roster, and I'm with you. I mean, it's hard to figure out what team do you put lower than the Redskins in your power poll based on just the lack of hope? What position? What player do you point to and say, this guy is gonna get him out of Does the locker room even liked and respect Jake Gruden? Well, we don't the owner like in respect. I think I think these are questions. This is an awful situation to go into a year when you just lost the one of your top pass rushers. Nobody knows if your quarterback can play quarterback anymore, and you might be forced to play him because the direction of upstairs is telling you to do that. It's no way to go into a season. C D. By the way, we saw your little um graphic flood there not clied it though, see we're interacted that wasponsitive group here in the glass. Killy should have an apostrophe at the end. By the way, No, actually it doesn't not only if you use hell, it's it's weird and to know hell, yes, well, everyone always talks about what a tragedy it is when when injuries happen in the preseason. I don't hear anyone saying that from Junior Gallet. Then no one is like, who that nation is totally cool with us. Let's just you know, just be real about it. Just really one of the worst teammates ever. We're hearing sometimes bad things and that angle maybe a positive for the Redskins. You get rid of a locker room cancer. You say that as a joke, by the way, but it could possibly be the best thing that happens this team. Yes there's not a lot of hope in Washington, but this guy could have potentially been a total nightmare. They were rolling the dice. I felt it was a desperate move at the time. Now he's out of the picture. You lose your best pass rusher, but at least you lose like a hardcore cancer. Everything's great. You're just trying to spend positive a little bit, all right, moving on. So that's what's happening in the news. Not a lot cooking on the news end. Ahead of the third week of the preseason. But there is a lot to talk about and what we're gonna talk about next as as we talked about earlier. Uh, you know, this is hope season unless you're in the Washington d C. Region and everyone. A lot of teams are excited U that they feel like they have a chance to play in Uh. Where is it? San Clarita, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, Califoria, Santa Clara, California, any female name beginning with C. They have been playing football there for over a year now, that's true. Uh So Santa Clara, California. Where the is the site? Uh? For I don't know for what. For some reason, it came into my head when I told you about an old friend of mine from my past, a girl named Cara, and uh I explained that Cara got married the New York Boys came out. I don't know where that came from. Anyways. This amen is called teams that are destined to fall short of expectations, or teams that will disappoint or I'm not mad, Todd, We're just disappointed. I like that, all right, So let's start. We're gonna go one by one. Even though all these teams have hope, there's a reason to really expect things to go down the drain in a big way. And we're gonna start with the quiet storm. I mean, I'm gonna go let's go to Buffalo because here's the thing with the Bills, its whole, Rex Ryan. You're gonna sell a bunch of tickets. Because Rex Ryan comes in, he's jumping out of airplanes. He's telling everyone who will listen that they're going to make the playoffs. And that's fine, except I can't find many teams with a shaky quarterback situation that ever make the postseason. I think Rex Ryan is one of the best defensive coaches of our time, but at the same point, this guy refuses to learn anything about managing his quarterbacks. I think going into the third preseason week with EJ. Manual as your starter because you're overly loyal to this concept that everyone must have a start chance in the preseason is a disaster in the making. Rex Ryan has learned nothing about managing the most important position in sports. I agree with that. I agree that he's playing the spoil. You've been saying it for like two weeks now, that Rex always gets things wrong. No matter what was this, but he could have played it perfectly that I still think this would have been a major issue on this team quarterback play. So I agree with you. I just kind of have a little bit different angle. But yeah, how are they going to expect a good quarterback play this season? How can he adds too much complexity to an already muddled situation? You completely botched what is what should be the showcase game for I think Hyrod Taylor, he's making Lovey Smith looked like Mark Tressman when it comes to quarterback. I mean, this guy is ham fisted. I've never seen a situation where a beat writer Vick Carucci of the Buffalo News, after Rex announces that e J. Manuel will start the most important preseason game of the year, Vick Caruci comes out and says, I can tell you from watching practice, did EJ Manuel has never been in this quarterback competition? Well that's what's so strange about it. And if I had to guess, I would guess, MANU is gonna play like two series and then Castle or Taylor will come in it. None of that makes any sense. But I still don't agree with Mark at all because it's not about the quarterback position. It's about taking what was the most talented or one of the most talented defense in the league, already one of the best defense in the league, and for that first year of the Rex excitement, taking it to a whole another level. And as much as all the off field stuff and the quarterback stuff is annoying, the offensive line is bad, that's all great, that's all similar to what the Jets were like. And this defense is more talented than any of those Jets defenses ever where. And I think they could be special. And I think that defensive line is one of the best we've seen a long time. I think they're gonna be so good that they will be a little better than last year, and then they'll live up to expectations. You're aware of the most important position on the field is the quarterback. They won nine games with Kyle w made that defense like Patton two years ago, got them the sack record for the franchise. So last year Jim Schwartz did a great job with that defense. It's not like you're gonna suddenly make it that much better. I do good. They were already a swarming defense, but you get the second year of Sammy Watkins. You get Lashawn McCoy, who's going to get the ball to Sammy walking? EJ Manuel? You throw it to him right near the line of scrimmage and let him run. I'm with Mark, isn't this is also all of us have been saying, or at least you guys, la Shawn McCoy is not gonna be as good anymore. I still think it's an upgrade at running back. I mean, you're talking about short of expectations. This isn't a team people are thinking you're going to go to The super book is the one selling this same He did the same thing with the Jets. It's the same thing. Carnival Barker. Third week of preseason Rex with quarterbacks is great because this time he started e J Manuel, who's going to be out the league next year. His second to last year with the Jets, he put Mark Sanchez between a fourth string offensive line and blew out Sanche's shoulder in the fourth quarter of the game, prompting one of the great press conference meltdowns ever. Remember what he was like. He was like, I'll say it this way, I'll see it this way, and I was like, everybody's like, what sounds like they're looking backwards anyway. So Rex, right, you know we all love Rex, but be careful. West. You're up next. Tell us about the team that's destined to fall short. Well, the team that's destined to go seven and nine or six and ten every single year. There existence to St. Louis Rams. They have the they have the ultimate seven. And picked out some better teams for this segment, and we were picking teams that are that are losing team. They're gonna you've got them in the play I'm the only one you know you've got them with the most exciting Everyone thinks there are seven and nineteen. Everyone thinks they have like a top three defense. They go seven and nine every year. Their quarterback, I could not be more disappointed in the quarterback. I'm just saying, we had twelve teams in the playoffs last year. Why don't we pick one of those teams as one of the teams that will discipline West. I wasn't yesterday when I saw the responses, I was like, have some balls here? Oh god, wait, I'm taking my boss on. These are my ball out there? To human resource. I wish we could all be as brave as Greg. Oh yeah, Hey, I don't like this game that you play that just because X amount of teams made the playoffs last year, we have to replace some of those teams with other teams. That's That's not how my mind works. I guess I'm just saying I didn't know there were the expectations were high for the Rams other I mean, I I do it. I think, well, it's probably just because I've heard you running around the office telling everybody the Ram they're gonna makes the idea of Greg literally running around the office the playoffs. It's like Mr Smith goes to Washington just filibustering. How I explain why the Rams stink come about? Well, they might have the worst offensive line in the NFL. Who's good on that line? They've got like three rookie starting or some Jamon Brown. We don't Todd Gurley is a mystery wrapped in a riddle, smothered in secret sauce. Right now, nobody knows what he is. Nick Foles has looked awful in the preseason. He's looked like he did last year with the Eagles. I think he's totally a product of Chip Kelly's offense. So I'm not buying anything about this, it was like seven and nine. We're good. Yeah, we're good. I'll see in California, like a new contract extension for another seven and ninth. I also, I gotta kick out of people that are talking themselves back onto the Tavan Austin hype train, Like what have we seem to think that's going to now happen? Why wait a second? This is like it's more just because I wrote a world refuses to acknowledge his existence, even though the coaches have said he's a starter and they're tailoring their offense around him. It's a good old road to that they have. So they have no offensive line and a bad quarterback when you think Tavon Austin will break out. But they do have Chris Long, Aaron Donald, Chris Long, Aaron Donald, and Robert Quinn on the same defensive line, a very underrated secondary. They had two great safe just lost arguably their best cornerback. That's fair EJ Games. Their cornerbacks are bad. They have Altog Tree played pretty well last year. It is a good looking defense, and I'm more betting on the rest of the NFC West maybe comes to the pack of it. I don't think they're great but yeah, they'll find a way to lose nine or ten. Greg Rosmenthal now Nick Fole's number one fan. It's just like you know, now I'm self conscious because Greg is going to pick the Seahawks or the Patriots or something. Must it must be someone just away. Well hey, no, no, I mean if you guys, you guys are really getting out on a limb there all twelve teams are going right back to the playoffs. But hey, we're talking that Rams team with you know that one, seven, and six and ten least year they're gonna disappoint, They're gonna the name of this segment is team's destined to fall short or I'm not mad, Todd, I'm disappointed. That doesn't mean teams that were in the playoffs last night won't make it. I guess I didn't know the expectations were particularly high for the Rams. I can't wait. Well, I knew they were high because I hear it from you all the time. Here's a team that did not make the playoffs, but expectations are high. So yes, it fulfills everything that we're looking at. The Expectations they're not high for your team either, But at Miami Dolphins, just signed the most expensive free agent in the history of the NFL on defense. His name is in Dominquan Sioux. They just signed a quarterback, Ryan Tanneill, to a one hundred million dollar extension. All the stack geeks, all the nerds think Tannehill is you know, the bee's knees, and they think this is the year. They think, oh, now we've got Kenny Stills. Did you hear He's better than Andrew Luck. He's better than Andrew Luck. According to pff TJ said he sees Tannehill differently now after watching in the preseason than he has before. He looked really good. Exactly what I'm saying. They got rid of Mike Wallace, people love Bill laser Um Mars Mars boy, he put it all together, and like, what's not to like about the Dolphins, Tom Brady potentially missing four weeks, the Jets of circus, the Bills. We already talked about the Bills. Why not? But no, they're gonna disappoint And I'm gonna tell you why. Sometimes as as simple as this, Joe Philman is their coach. Joe Philman is a stiff. Joe Hillman is the type of guy that just disappears after a while, and you'll see him as an offensive assistant a couple of years. Uh. I don't think he doesn't seem like a bad guy. Let me pull back the reins and it seems like a nice guy. But I don't know why he still has a job. We've talked about that, and am I convinced that Ryan Tannehill is gonna really become that guy, is going to carry this team to tenor eleven wins. I still am not convinced. I like Lamar Miller, but I don't love him. There's not enough And when's last time a defensive player, even Mario Williams, who is a very good player, Still it doesn't typically make an instant difference when you sign a player for that much money. Miami has been the a f c's version of the St. Louis Ramps because it's basically a seven win team year after year and over. I agree with acent, although I just don't expect them to be that good. At the same time, I think their offense this year is going to make a jump. I really do believe they will. I think that Tannehill, I don't all this business that he's a top ten quarterback and better than luck from Pro Football Focus in insane, utter nonsense. It feels like a clickbait type scenario. But I do think that the Dolphins are poised to make a big jump on that side of the ball. I'm with you and that I agree with DJ, and I like what I've seen from Tannehill this. I'm conflicted about the Dolphins more than just about any team in the league. I don't have a strong feeling about them at all because of what Dan said about of Philbin. It's like I have a hard time imagining that Joe Philbin team doing really well. But on paper and everything that you're saying makes sense. I mean, I think the expectations should be high for the Dolphins because if they don't win ten games, unlike I think if the Bills go e and eight, that shouldn't be viewed as some big disappoint If the Dolphins don't make the plants, that should be viewed. And what, we're the biggest player in free agency. He brought in all these but I'm coaches talking super Bowls to me, the expecting all their players spent all obvious talking about the Super Bowl. That's self generated. Though Dan let's say Pete Carroll were Miami's coach. Do you think that philbin is costing them two or three games? I mean it's a fair I think he I think he's holding them back. Yeah. I don't think we've seen anything in three years that that guy should still be the coach. This is what's gonna happen. They're gonna be like six and five, like we were saying. I think the Pats will be four and four is something at the midway point, and people are gonna get excited about the Dolphins. Oh they're one game back or one game up, then the loose four out of five and the end up like they always do right around the disappointment. I'm looking forward to your guys playoffs because there's a lot of teams in the a f C. I mean, only two, you know, wild card spots and a lot of pretty good wild card contenders if you want to throw in the Chargers, the Ravens, you know, the Bengals, the Bills, the Dolphins. Only two of those teams are going to make the playoffs. Titans, you know a lot of disappointment. The Texans. Yeah, my team, my team Laser, Uh, my team. That's gonna disappointed Dallas Cowboys. They can't do. You can't. I thought it was gonna be teams that, you know, we're good, that they're gonna come down this year really popular. You have them out of the playoffs. Yeah, I was not gonna put I have them and that's good. Then we all agreed that Cowboys are going to be a disaster this year. I don't know about a disaster. If they don't make the playoffs, it's a disaster based on all the talent that they've added on on defense out of the expectations there. They think this is their super A window is the next year or two. So I think if they did not make the playoffs this year, that would be as disappointing as any season under Jerry Jones in the last ten years. And as much as they love Jason Garrett, if they go seven and nine this year, it's like he's back on the hot seat and he's maybe gone next year because that's the type of setup that they've put themselves at right now. They think they have the best offensive line in the history of football. I think it's a good pick by Greg because I do see him as a playoff team because outside of the running back position and potentially your secondary. With Scandrick out, what position group didn't they got? What got worse? I mean they they I thought that Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones went out, You've got Lele Collins, you got Gregory on defense. They made some risky and you didn't just say you didn't just say punter and long snapper. They took steps back. They love they running back is a mess and covered up a lot of problems last year. Well, I think we've got a good inkling. Are two big flaws and they listen. That's fair. But I think also when you're a team with Tony Romo, this is there's a couple more years where Romo is a premier quarterback and frankly underrated. He's always looked at as a guy he's he was the top three quarterback last season if he stays healthy. But really, I can't count the Cowboys out with that kind of play under center, right, I couldn't count them out either. This to me is more of a what goes up is natural to fall down type of thing in the X and this franchise has shown over the years that they don't handle success particularly well. They don't necessarily handle adversity particularly well, and it just wouldn't surprise me to see them have an up and down season with a lot of drama and a nine and seven eight. But I think the Giants are going to be a better team on offense. They're gonna test teams. Philadelphia won ten games last year and it was the only double digit win team to not make the playoffs, and the skin stink. But in that division, anyone could be there. I just don't think you can expect the offense to be as good as it was in Dallas a year ago. It was one of the best offenses of the last decade. And you just a lot of times offensive lines that you think are great, they don't really stay great for long. I mean that Chief's offensive line was good for a couple of years, but it usually lasts one or two years and that's it. And then and then think everybody in Dallas loved DeMarco Murray until the day he signed with the Eagles, and then they spent the off season trashing him, saying he left meat on the bone, saying he missed too many holes. And he was Offensive Player of the Year, had more fifteen yard runs than any running back. It's like a Red Sox fan in Indianapolis. Star thing to do. Put Reggie, Wayne and Trader on the foot page and give me a break with Iniapolis. Start, give me a break. So the Bill, Rats and company whatever you are, gravits doesn't even work there all right? Whatever the generator? So the that would be Edward or really uh so the Bills, Rams, Dolphins and Cowboys you banged al right, everybody here it comes. It's time. It is the game of both skill and Valor, also known as which is Poster West. You are the champion, you have been for some time now taking on all comers. And I said, first of all those that are new to the games, you know this is a trivia game, not just the skill and valor game, a trivia game NFL history all through the years. West is the maestro when it comes to this or the maestro. And we have listeners call in and the show up on Skype. And then we've had some people from in the office take West on Greg even one once upon a time. But that's the only lost West has ever had, the old Buster Douglas. Uh So that is the game. We're gonna go through six questions and let's see, maybe West gets taken down to West at this point. Not even he used to study up and talk about how he would read and make sure he could not be defeated. Now West doesn't even think about it, and there's not much you can do to prepare. It's like you know what you do all throughout the year. Once you get into the game, you know you'll be found out in the dark in the night if you didn't prepare all you get ready listeners for all the drama of a Harlem Globe Chatters game. Right, well, this game is gonna go into invisibility if we don't get some challengers here. Yes, as I said, the two contestants that we have today, um is more pressure than in the past because the very, the very game itself could be riding on their competitiveness. So let's let's first, let's get to our first contestant. Right now, to the contestant number one, meet Justin Favor in a twenty five year Chicago Bars fan tailing all the way from Australia. Justin listened to the podcast let Us Work Commute and admires Chris Westling's knowledge of the game, though not intimidated by it. If Justin wins the toaster, he vows to quote make the best damned toast Australia's ever seen. Wow, there is, we should say this toaster, which you know emanated from the newsroom. It just happened to be there one day and I claimed it. It can print, imprint your team on the toast. They can and it's a magical toaster. Justin there. He is from London via Brisbane, Australia. Brisbane, what's up? Welcome, Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. We love our overseas listeners. Uh. They are loyal, they are smart, smart, they are funny, funny, they are foreign, foreign, and you know, in this case, handsome Justin. Uh are you nervous because like like, like we said, Justin, or like I said, this game is going away for a while while if you cannot deliver some heat right now? Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what Justin doesn't. And we are watching us on Skype. If you want to check us out, you can listen obviously, but you can also watch this unfold. Uh. He does not look to me, Greg like a tomato can. He is good friends with an Australian podcast about NFL football that Chris has been on, So, I mean, he's definitely tied into the game. He's wearing his jersey. What jersey is that right now? Says he's wearing an all time great jersey. He's a dad who's in shape. He obviously he's got you got your act against hot dad. Actually, yeah, we didn't even have you on the show to do this. We just wanted to admire your bod. Alright, just ast, so are you aware of the rules? Justin? Alright? Yeah? Six questions for each the same six questions for both West and Justin. Um sixty second time and Mark, you are the official timekeeper. Before the show started for the record fourteen straight time, you asked me how much time goes on the clock and I don't like all the people behind the glass now have a robot timekeeper. That's what I'm you know, I'm going the robot timekeeper debut. Last time we played this game and it was a total total show, so that it showed why humans and you know people, people get pumped up about robots in virtual reality and you know the you know the future enough the road mankind using an iPhone, that's the way to go in, all right, so justin we'll go first, West be gone, it's gonna disconnect. Our microphone situation has changed, no headsets ever, he's doing his best. There you guys, puts that down. It's not as smooth as it once was. There goes here aring his NFL network was tripping over the waters this week, trying to intimidate less, trying to get out. Now it's becoming a panic situation. It's like an animal steps in the bear trap, the second Harrison Ford type egsit right there, very smooth, get out of here. West, come on. Just our needs is justin. We need this, the show needs this. Well, we could just we could just bake the results and say he got the six out of six. We can always do that, all right, So six questions. If you want to pass, you could pass, and we'll come back to it and tell us when to stop. Because the tiebreaker is the time two guys get four. Whoever that got in less time wins. So at this, at the sound of the creepy synth um timekeeper music potentially stolen from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, we will begin. Who replaced Bill Parcels as Giants coach in This player theorized that the NFL had a hand in the power outage that halted Super Bowl forty eight at the super Dome. This starting running back has lost just one fumble in his first two seasons. Current ah who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl forty four for the Saints. This lineman was the first overall pick in the two thousand eight draft. Ryan Fitzpatrick made his first NFL start for what team? All right, stop the clock, but I know you gotta go back. There's out of time anyway. Well, all right, I don't know if you want to know which has happened. Justin let's keep a straight face for when West comes back. Put on a brave face, that's all I'll say. Still, very good, dad, there's a chance that you could tie. All right, there we go. We're bringing West back in. Guys, let's be strongly okay, all right, West back with us now. So we're not gonna no, nobody's showing any poker face here is just tell me how many you got right Actually, for the first time I'm going to do. You want to know how many? Guy? Right now? Because you're not in the town. I'd never tell you, all right, let's go West? Who replaced Bill Parcels as the Giants coach? Uh Ray pass. This player theorized that the NFL had a hand in the power outage that halted Super Bowl forty seven at the super Dome trail suck. This starting running back had lost just one has lost just one fumble in his first two NFL seasons. Levan Bell, who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl forty four for the Saints pass. This lineman was the first overall pick of the two thousand eight draft. Two eight draft pass. Ryan Fitzpatrick made his first NFL start for what team? St? Louis Rams? Do you want to go back? Who replaced the Bill? Who replaced Bill Parcels as Giants coach Summer? This player theorized this starting running back, no excuse me? Who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl Harley? All right? West? Three out of six more than enough to be a certified tomato can behind me? Three nothing. Those were tough questions you had coach he less than two years. He was not a fan favorite in New York and replaced by who was he? Replaced by West got him back to the playoffs. Jim Fossil, Listen, I think Wes as little Russey. We can get a real competitor, and here we got a shot. It was Dan Reeves. Uh Levyan bell Is fumbled twice in his first two years, lost only one. Thomas Morristead is the punter that had the onside kid. I could have gotten that. But that was tough. But you are you are you more fan than stuff like that? Was like, that was really tough. Jake Long was the first overall pick in the two thousands. Wouldn't be That's just like a random year like two th eight. Your mind doesn't naturally go. I mean these were tough. Patrick started his first game was for the Rams as a starter many after I think you started for what like six teams now once It's fair to say our friend from Australia got some tougher questions and a lot of the previous contestants. So I'm not even going to call him a tomato can. The man clearly knows his football. Yea, I will, let's uh justin, let's let's just say thank you for coming on. Maybe the questions that it go you're away this time. But we appreciate you listening and taking on West than just It's three in the morning and you stayed up until the middle of the night. You know what, we gotta get West uptil three in the morning. Haven't answered questions in the middle of the night. I got no problem with that. Justin, thank you for coming on. All right, So Justin was not the guy to take on West. Listen to every round is is different. You're getting rid of the game. So no, we have one more guys. Riz comes down to one more caller. I don't like this, and we'll see what happens. Let's go to the second contestant, Cantastic meet Ryan broad squad broders a football agnostics since and I'm Baltimore Ravens fan residing in Canada. Ryan listens to the show while taking bubble baths, and he fancies his chances of winning the toaster because he's an avid listener of the Move the Stitch podcast with Daniel chair A Maya like always was the route for this guy taking shots at us right out of the gates. All right, this is here's a little backstory with Ryan that we we had to delay a little bit because Ryan was prepared to be. First of all, Ryan, where are you calling from or where are you skyping from? And I'm just say okay, alright, So Ryan was dry iving when we when we pulled him up on Skype and he was hoping to do the segment while driving, like commuting to work or wherever he was going. So which is obviously kind of some evil, kinevil reckless stuff, but also maybe a sign of confidence. You Well, the the intro shows you're very confident Ryan, And I'll also I'll also say this Ryan, our first contestant, Tomato kan City zero out of six West took care of business, which which means if you don't compete here, if you don't put up a fight, this this entire episode, that everything about when West Coaster could be over. This is great. Greg has every reason to be rooting against Mr. Broad Squad. So do you know the rules? Ryan? Yes? Okay? So six questions. At the start of the creepy drone music, we will get going. You could pass and come back? Tiebreaker is time already? Who was involved in three fumbles in the two thou a nine NFC Championship game. Next question, who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. In next question, this Vikings quarterback started for an injured Christian Ponder in the two thousand twelve wild card playoffs. Next question, who was the starting quarterback for the Chargers when the team went to the Super Bowl. The next question, who was the bucks head coach when the team posted its last winning season? At This Packers wide receiver led the NFL with fourteen touchdowns in two thousand twelve. James Jones, Do you want to go back? Yes? Who was involved in three fumbles in the two thousand nine NFC Championship. Next question, who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. Jez, Well, this what happens when you listen to them Move the Sticks podcast exactly. Listen to us more and maybe you got something. Did say it was a damn fan that was part of his list? I missed that. Well, now upset because I would have been looting harder for you. Uh, listen, is a chance you can There's a chance you can win if West you know, we'll have a seizure between now and city. Major medical incident here. Bring West back in. Everybody be bray from West has a chance to again sweep the competition, But who knows? You never know. Let's get right to the questions. Good luck, Buddy boy, who was involved in three fumbles in the two thousand nine NFC Championship game. Who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears? Half This Vikings quarterback started for an injured Christian Ponder in the two thousand twelve wild card playoffs? Uh right? Who was the starting quarterback for the Chargers when the team went to the Super Bowl? In Staying Humphries? Who is the Bucks head coach when the team posted its last winning season? RhE worries? This Packers wide receiver led the NFL with fourteen touchdowns in two thousand twelve. James Jones? Do you want to go back? Who filed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. I don't know why. I don't know this um ten seconds? I don't know all right, stop clock, official scorekeeper. That would be three for West, three for Chris Westling, one for broad broad squad West. You are the winner an underwhelming fashion west backson in the playoffs? Well lost? And those are Harvard questions. Ryan, you can safely get back onto the motorway, and thank you very much for listening and liking me. That gives you extra points. And perhaps in a better day you would have gotten questions that would have clicked with you, you know, and uh, yes, and and go Yankees? All right? Can get it? Can we get the correct answers? Yes? Here are the correct answers? Uh. Adrian Peterson, he fumbled twice and was involved in aboutch handoff exchange in the two thousand nine NFC Championship game. You said Ray Rice, Uh, Dave wants that replaced Mike Dicka. Joe Webb was the quarterback the Kevin Rush and Ponder and I think he's eleven for thirty with two picks. He was terrible. Stan Humphreys started for the Chargers. Raheem Morris the young the young Rebucks. Uh so they had Raheem. There a lot of people thought Jake Ruden and James Jones, which you both got. That was the only one that Ryan gotten. By the way. That's it, And I love our listeners. Any competitions going forward, at least for the time being, will come in house, because I simply I can't. One for twelve is not a sustainable model. West got a big fat oh for two. If I was going up against him today, he would have been gone because you know the answers already. No, I didn't say. I didn't exactly. It's easy to say when there's no clock. Oh, it's got to be. It is easy to say when I'm undefeating against you. Six for twelve for West, which means guess you can be beaten. And next time we play random questions and exactly trivia, and next time we play this game West. The excuses are getting bigger and they're carrying over different things, whether it's Cornhole or this game. Maybe we ring the Boss back in. Maybe the Boss is back, but it's not gonna be for a while. This game is gonna go away for a while. We've got to dream it up again. This is uh. That's it for Friday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We'll be back next week with three shows a lot to get to until then. This is then hands as signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss, and TV behind the Glass for almost the Rendy week. When coming off
Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is still beeping with the Move the Sticks podcast. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hanzas and I enjoined my room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosval. What's up boys? Hey Dan? I am excited. This is one of those shows where Cessler got no sleep. Last night's Live Wire Cessler wild odds. Cessler went to bed at ten thirty, woke up around ten fifty, never went back to sleep. Not sure why. So anything's possible with Mark. I almost wish we had the Fantasy Outsider on today because on the Street Corner it would have been especially demented. I feel like, listen, I'm not feeling it. We'll just up to see what happens. All right? Good? Before the show, Mark made a comment, was something wrong was on? Would this be a good show for me to be completely checked out? Is that? Can we? We can arrange it? Not that different than a normal show. Well, too many speaking parts. So by the way I was, I was off yesterday and avanting around the West coast. That's one way to put it. But when you're married, h thirty five year old with a one year old son. There's no more Gallivanter. It's over. I was doing errands, running them around the city, and then relieving my babysitter. That's a lot of fun rock and roll lifestyle. But I'm not completely, um, you know, unplugged from what's going on. I checked Twitter, got a tweet, a couple of tweets actually, UM about our friend UH or Daniel Jared or Moolley Mulla. I don't I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Three quarterback right? He did? He played above high school level UH for a few years, and apparently they give him a podcast, which is, you know, cute. He talked about us, So TV do we have that? I just I might as well. We might as well address it. UH less people think we're running. We've got the around the NFL guys that are gonna try and talk about toasters. So if you're into, like, you know, kitchen alances around here is your show. Bucky really liked that joke, Ye, Bucky. I hope Bucky enjoyed his time on the podcast. Because it's over. Um, you haven't done a show in three and a half months. You probably have a lot of pent up frustration with many co workers. So I understand where DJ is coming from. And let's let's be honest, we get it. You always want that you're hitting up at the number one. Come at us, you know, with a number one game in the land here. So if you want to come at it, come at it. I would do the same thing. That's how you get publicity. You come at the number one. I'm putting on full of Mike friends here. Come with the number one. Come with the number one. I'm not gonna worry about it. Well, I don't got nothing to say about him. Is Jeremiah the podcast world's and trill role at this point? Wow? Strong, very strong. Yeah, well that's that's a good it's a good connection there. Yes, I'm gonna say he is. Mark plus the Toaster, which we're doing today, one of the most popular segments on the show. Finally, Greg Acknology of Greg listens nothing like coming at Me. I listened to this at fifteen at night. I was grocery shopping for some reason at eleven fifteen, And by the way, this is the only reason I would listen to move the six podcast. At this point I heard there was some beef to hear what happens got me, you know, got me all fired up and made me defensive of the toaster grocery shopping. I don't know, you know, I want to party with you. I figured it might as well be productive. I like it. I mean, yeah, DJ former quarterback at the college level. He's a competitive guy by nature. He wants to come at the number one. We'll come at the number one. We're here, We're not going anywhere. He just did. Well, keep coming. I'm not afraid it's scarred, all right. Coming up on the show, you a DJ, A little shot right back at you, buddy, coming up on today's show, like a minute and a half, taking shot to him. Well, he had one. Uh. Coming up on today's show. We got a lot to get to. We're gonna do a little bit of new excuse me, alright, gentlemen, listen, we're human beings, decent, infallible. We do a little news. Of course, that's what the NFL network is looking for. I've heard I will demand TD scrubs that from the from the audio end video, which, by the way, you can watch us on YouTube now if if it's easier for you to access us on YouTube where there you could also watch us on on the NFL dot com website somewhere NFL now you can find it there maybe, but you can definitely find us at YouTube and maybe we can get a YouTube channel at some point TV to give people a link that has everything. Well, we're on the NFL channel. Is there like sub channels for YouTube? We we have the NFL channel. Don't try to take over the board just yet, Dan, And then on that we have the around the NFL playlist. And by the way, the fun fact about the YouTube clips is that you can skip two segments as you please if you check the show. And I saw that it looks very good and everybody's doing a very nice job behind the glass and behind the scenes getting us on the video side of things. But anyways, for today's show, we're gonna do some news. We're gonna talk about teams that we feel are destined to fall short of expectations. Um subtitle I'm not mad, Todd, I'm just disappointed. And then finally as and then finally yes, it is hinted by DJ and Greg we will bring back the game of skill and valor known as when West's Toaster get excited. We asked West when he came into are you ready for this? Are you prepared? And he didn't even know what was happening today and he's in his zone. He doesn't even care. He's just gonna moan down very Tyson in Tokyo. That's the Tyson Tokyo moment. That's when I took you out with the uppercut. I don't remember being unconcerned when you took me out. Well, you should have studied a little harder. All right, let's go behind the glass and check in with t V. Hey doing, buddy? What is going on? Guys? Um glad to be here Friday? Good show though we had uh you know this is on YouTube like you said, so it's moved to six so it is DD piece and check it old out, guys. I want to start getting I know you don't have any loyalties to our show, really, but I would like to hear maybe from you, maybe loyal to the game if I can get a text from you when DJ is taking shots, so I don't have to hear it from you know. TV probably didn't want us listening to that episode because DJ also was taking shots and not so sadly getting annoyed by TV jumping into the show too much. So at least it's not it's funny to hear that another show. Now you're just making stuff up. I'm not I would say this, Dan again, come with the can you best not miss? Yes? Very good? The wire. All right, let's do some news. I agree, that's a good point. All right, let's get right into it. We'll start with the Pittsburgh Steelers bad news are one of our making the Leap candidates. Wide receiver Martavis Bryant, who will uh is facing a four game suspension for violating the NFL's policy on Substances of abuse. According to rap Sheet, this is tied back to multiple marijuana tests that have been failed. So Martavis Bryant smoking stick and it's cost them the beginning of the season potentially. Well. I think Mike Tomlin came out in March and said this could be the best offense in the NFL because when Martavis Bryant hit the starting lineup after the Week seven by they averaged thirty one points a game. They were arguably the most explosive offense in the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger's passer rating was fifteen points higher with Martavis Bryant. The lineup. He averaged seventy more passing yards per game with Bryant in the lineup. That's those are amazing numbers. This team was three and three in Week seven and they went eight and to the rest of the way with mart Tavis Bryant. They were completely different offense. And you've got Levy on Belle, Martavis Bryant and Marcus Pouncey won't be there early in the season. This is a team the last two years has been slow out of the gates two thousand thirteen. It kept them out of the playoffs. Last year. It hurt them a little bit too. They had to play catch up all year. This kickoff game between the Steelers and Patriots is feeling like a Week two preseason until let's just slop it out with something at this point, give me a break. It's a it's a lot of fun. Jimmy Garoppolo, Dion Lewis, You've got Darius Hayward Bay running routes for the Steelers. We're tuning in kickoff week four. Whatever it'll be, it'll be exciting. But you're right, all the optimism about the Steelers offense, I mean, Pouncy is the biggest problem. They can replace Bryant for four weeks, but it is amazing when when Rothsburger through those hand may I think they can survive as an offense. Leavy and Bell will be back game instead of thirty three or whatever. I mean, it's it's a different way to win a game. And you've already got questions on defense, where you've got all these young players you have to work in early. This is a flawed team in September. I think they're a team that's gonna have to score that many points because of the defense. I mean, we've seen nothing from the defense so far. Well, I think that there you raise a good point. There chances to be a Super Bowl winner this year or or contender. Is the defense improving dramatically, which I think it has a chance to do. I'm not I don't really care about what I've seen in the preseason. They have a pretty young roster, they have young pass rushers, they have a completely rebuilt secondary. They were terrible last year. I think just the change is a good thing. And you're right, the defense is gonna have to be a lot better in September than they were a year ago. Martavis Bryant played just three d and six regular season snaps, twenty six catches, five nine yards, eight touchdowns, and the league leading twenty one point one yards per catch average. So this is a substantial loss and the reason he was on our making the Leap list because we thought this guy could enter stud territory. Everyone that is fading from society. I don't want to hear any more criticism. Odell Beckham played eleven games last year. Brian can come back play twelve have a great season. You know who was on the Making the List leap list two years ago, Marcus Wheat and we were just a year year and not great. But he's gonna have a great season this year because Brian's out of the mix. Wait, Big Bend hyped him in early August, like just blowing smoke. Do you think that was because he knew Mark Tavis Bryant was going to be sure we were wonder in that yesterday. Well, these teams know about these suspensions many times, well before they're announced. I think, if nothing else, the team knew about it. And that's why Wheaton has been the starter and getting the starter snaps. That kind of explains. While Wheaton is stayed ahead and bright the loser. Here is all these fantasy heads that wrote roughly seven or eight hundred articles about the Wheaton verse Bryant controversy in Pittsburgh that inaccurate seven or eight Had this happened a month ago, you save a lot of people a lot of typing. And Gregg's right, by the way, there is no making the leave curse. It's not like Geno Smith was on the list Indians Alright. Moving on horrible news for the Washington Redskins. They signed JR. Gallet to a one year deal last month. Think they could get a little sneaky steel uh and a real pass rusher in their defense if he would be able to uh keep his nose clean and not be a monster like he was in New Orleans. So it's not gonna happen towards Achilles in practice on Wednesday, UM and he's out for the year. Will undergo surgery on Friday, UM. West. This is an injury that that really kills the defense that needed Golette to have an impact for them to really probably have any chance to be competitive. Right, They've got a couple of second round picks, Trent Murphy and Preston Smith. They've drafted the past two years. But if they like those guys enough to start them, why did they sign Junior Glette in the first place. It tells you that those guys weren't ready to make a difference. To me, a little preview here. We've got to do our power rankings one to thirty two for all the NFL teams. The Redskins will not be in the top thirty one on my list. Not gonna make the cut. Yeah, it's people, forget it. It's a terrible it's a terrible roster. Scott mcglewin shows up. People, Okay, they're on the they're on the right track. He's gonna do the right things. It's gonna take a while for him to get his players, and he didn't have a dramatic offseason. This is essentially the same team that has won seven games the last two years combined, I believe, I mean so, they are right there with the very worst rosters in the league. And there's not any reason to think based off the last month unless you believe that Jay Gruden getting mad about people calling him fat is going to motivate everyone that they're going to get better. It's hard like to think of North and North of Joe Filben, a coach that's in a worse situation than Jake Ruden right now, because I think he's much worse than Joe Phil Well, he's you got a bottom a bottom three roster, and I'm with you. I mean, it's hard to figure out what team do you put lower than the Redskins in your power poll based on just the lack of hope? What position? What player do you point to and say, this guy is gonna get him out of Does the locker room even liked and respect Jake Gruden? Well, we don't the owner like in respect. I think I think these are questions. This is an awful situation to go into a year when you just lost the one of your top pass rushers. Nobody knows if your quarterback can play quarterback anymore, and you might be forced to play him because the direction of upstairs is telling you to do that. It's no way to go into a season. C D. By the way, we saw your little um graphic flood there not clied it though, see we're interacted that wasponsitive group here in the glass. Killy should have an apostrophe at the end. By the way, No, actually it doesn't not only if you use hell, it's it's weird and to know hell, yes, well, everyone always talks about what a tragedy it is when when injuries happen in the preseason. I don't hear anyone saying that from Junior Gallet. Then no one is like, who that nation is totally cool with us. Let's just you know, just be real about it. Just really one of the worst teammates ever. We're hearing sometimes bad things and that angle maybe a positive for the Redskins. You get rid of a locker room cancer. You say that as a joke, by the way, but it could possibly be the best thing that happens this team. Yes there's not a lot of hope in Washington, but this guy could have potentially been a total nightmare. They were rolling the dice. I felt it was a desperate move at the time. Now he's out of the picture. You lose your best pass rusher, but at least you lose like a hardcore cancer. Everything's great. You're just trying to spend positive a little bit, all right, moving on. So that's what's happening in the news. Not a lot cooking on the news end. Ahead of the third week of the preseason. But there is a lot to talk about and what we're gonna talk about next as as we talked about earlier. Uh, you know, this is hope season unless you're in the Washington d C. Region and everyone. A lot of teams are excited U that they feel like they have a chance to play in Uh. Where is it? San Clarita, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, Califoria, Santa Clara, California, any female name beginning with C. They have been playing football there for over a year now, that's true. Uh So Santa Clara, California. Where the is the site? Uh? For I don't know for what. For some reason, it came into my head when I told you about an old friend of mine from my past, a girl named Cara, and uh I explained that Cara got married the New York Boys came out. I don't know where that came from. Anyways. This amen is called teams that are destined to fall short of expectations, or teams that will disappoint or I'm not mad, Todd, We're just disappointed. I like that, all right, So let's start. We're gonna go one by one. Even though all these teams have hope, there's a reason to really expect things to go down the drain in a big way. And we're gonna start with the quiet storm. I mean, I'm gonna go let's go to Buffalo because here's the thing with the Bills, its whole, Rex Ryan. You're gonna sell a bunch of tickets. Because Rex Ryan comes in, he's jumping out of airplanes. He's telling everyone who will listen that they're going to make the playoffs. And that's fine, except I can't find many teams with a shaky quarterback situation that ever make the postseason. I think Rex Ryan is one of the best defensive coaches of our time, but at the same point, this guy refuses to learn anything about managing his quarterbacks. I think going into the third preseason week with EJ. Manual as your starter because you're overly loyal to this concept that everyone must have a start chance in the preseason is a disaster in the making. Rex Ryan has learned nothing about managing the most important position in sports. I agree with that. I agree that he's playing the spoil. You've been saying it for like two weeks now, that Rex always gets things wrong. No matter what was this, but he could have played it perfectly that I still think this would have been a major issue on this team quarterback play. So I agree with you. I just kind of have a little bit different angle. But yeah, how are they going to expect a good quarterback play this season? How can he adds too much complexity to an already muddled situation? You completely botched what is what should be the showcase game for I think Hyrod Taylor, he's making Lovey Smith looked like Mark Tressman when it comes to quarterback. I mean, this guy is ham fisted. I've never seen a situation where a beat writer Vick Carucci of the Buffalo News, after Rex announces that e J. Manuel will start the most important preseason game of the year, Vick Caruci comes out and says, I can tell you from watching practice, did EJ Manuel has never been in this quarterback competition? Well that's what's so strange about it. And if I had to guess, I would guess, MANU is gonna play like two series and then Castle or Taylor will come in it. None of that makes any sense. But I still don't agree with Mark at all because it's not about the quarterback position. It's about taking what was the most talented or one of the most talented defense in the league, already one of the best defense in the league, and for that first year of the Rex excitement, taking it to a whole another level. And as much as all the off field stuff and the quarterback stuff is annoying, the offensive line is bad, that's all great, that's all similar to what the Jets were like. And this defense is more talented than any of those Jets defenses ever where. And I think they could be special. And I think that defensive line is one of the best we've seen a long time. I think they're gonna be so good that they will be a little better than last year, and then they'll live up to expectations. You're aware of the most important position on the field is the quarterback. They won nine games with Kyle w made that defense like Patton two years ago, got them the sack record for the franchise. So last year Jim Schwartz did a great job with that defense. It's not like you're gonna suddenly make it that much better. I do good. They were already a swarming defense, but you get the second year of Sammy Watkins. You get Lashawn McCoy, who's going to get the ball to Sammy walking? EJ Manuel? You throw it to him right near the line of scrimmage and let him run. I'm with Mark, isn't this is also all of us have been saying, or at least you guys, la Shawn McCoy is not gonna be as good anymore. I still think it's an upgrade at running back. I mean, you're talking about short of expectations. This isn't a team people are thinking you're going to go to The super book is the one selling this same He did the same thing with the Jets. It's the same thing. Carnival Barker. Third week of preseason Rex with quarterbacks is great because this time he started e J Manuel, who's going to be out the league next year. His second to last year with the Jets, he put Mark Sanchez between a fourth string offensive line and blew out Sanche's shoulder in the fourth quarter of the game, prompting one of the great press conference meltdowns ever. Remember what he was like. He was like, I'll say it this way, I'll see it this way, and I was like, everybody's like, what sounds like they're looking backwards anyway. So Rex, right, you know we all love Rex, but be careful. West. You're up next. Tell us about the team that's destined to fall short. Well, the team that's destined to go seven and nine or six and ten every single year. There existence to St. Louis Rams. They have the they have the ultimate seven. And picked out some better teams for this segment, and we were picking teams that are that are losing team. They're gonna you've got them in the play I'm the only one you know you've got them with the most exciting Everyone thinks there are seven and nineteen. Everyone thinks they have like a top three defense. They go seven and nine every year. Their quarterback, I could not be more disappointed in the quarterback. I'm just saying, we had twelve teams in the playoffs last year. Why don't we pick one of those teams as one of the teams that will discipline West. I wasn't yesterday when I saw the responses, I was like, have some balls here? Oh god, wait, I'm taking my boss on. These are my ball out there? To human resource. I wish we could all be as brave as Greg. Oh yeah, Hey, I don't like this game that you play that just because X amount of teams made the playoffs last year, we have to replace some of those teams with other teams. That's That's not how my mind works. I guess I'm just saying I didn't know there were the expectations were high for the Rams other I mean, I I do it. I think, well, it's probably just because I've heard you running around the office telling everybody the Ram they're gonna makes the idea of Greg literally running around the office the playoffs. It's like Mr Smith goes to Washington just filibustering. How I explain why the Rams stink come about? Well, they might have the worst offensive line in the NFL. Who's good on that line? They've got like three rookie starting or some Jamon Brown. We don't Todd Gurley is a mystery wrapped in a riddle, smothered in secret sauce. Right now, nobody knows what he is. Nick Foles has looked awful in the preseason. He's looked like he did last year with the Eagles. I think he's totally a product of Chip Kelly's offense. So I'm not buying anything about this, it was like seven and nine. We're good. Yeah, we're good. I'll see in California, like a new contract extension for another seven and ninth. I also, I gotta kick out of people that are talking themselves back onto the Tavan Austin hype train, Like what have we seem to think that's going to now happen? Why wait a second? This is like it's more just because I wrote a world refuses to acknowledge his existence, even though the coaches have said he's a starter and they're tailoring their offense around him. It's a good old road to that they have. So they have no offensive line and a bad quarterback when you think Tavon Austin will break out. But they do have Chris Long, Aaron Donald, Chris Long, Aaron Donald, and Robert Quinn on the same defensive line, a very underrated secondary. They had two great safe just lost arguably their best cornerback. That's fair EJ Games. Their cornerbacks are bad. They have Altog Tree played pretty well last year. It is a good looking defense, and I'm more betting on the rest of the NFC West maybe comes to the pack of it. I don't think they're great but yeah, they'll find a way to lose nine or ten. Greg Rosmenthal now Nick Fole's number one fan. It's just like you know, now I'm self conscious because Greg is going to pick the Seahawks or the Patriots or something. Must it must be someone just away. Well hey, no, no, I mean if you guys, you guys are really getting out on a limb there all twelve teams are going right back to the playoffs. But hey, we're talking that Rams team with you know that one, seven, and six and ten least year they're gonna disappoint, They're gonna the name of this segment is team's destined to fall short or I'm not mad, Todd, I'm disappointed. That doesn't mean teams that were in the playoffs last night won't make it. I guess I didn't know the expectations were particularly high for the Rams. I can't wait. Well, I knew they were high because I hear it from you all the time. Here's a team that did not make the playoffs, but expectations are high. So yes, it fulfills everything that we're looking at. The Expectations they're not high for your team either, But at Miami Dolphins, just signed the most expensive free agent in the history of the NFL on defense. His name is in Dominquan Sioux. They just signed a quarterback, Ryan Tanneill, to a one hundred million dollar extension. All the stack geeks, all the nerds think Tannehill is you know, the bee's knees, and they think this is the year. They think, oh, now we've got Kenny Stills. Did you hear He's better than Andrew Luck. He's better than Andrew Luck. According to pff TJ said he sees Tannehill differently now after watching in the preseason than he has before. He looked really good. Exactly what I'm saying. They got rid of Mike Wallace, people love Bill laser Um Mars Mars boy, he put it all together, and like, what's not to like about the Dolphins, Tom Brady potentially missing four weeks, the Jets of circus, the Bills. We already talked about the Bills. Why not? But no, they're gonna disappoint And I'm gonna tell you why. Sometimes as as simple as this, Joe Philman is their coach. Joe Philman is a stiff. Joe Hillman is the type of guy that just disappears after a while, and you'll see him as an offensive assistant a couple of years. Uh. I don't think he doesn't seem like a bad guy. Let me pull back the reins and it seems like a nice guy. But I don't know why he still has a job. We've talked about that, and am I convinced that Ryan Tannehill is gonna really become that guy, is going to carry this team to tenor eleven wins. I still am not convinced. I like Lamar Miller, but I don't love him. There's not enough And when's last time a defensive player, even Mario Williams, who is a very good player, Still it doesn't typically make an instant difference when you sign a player for that much money. Miami has been the a f c's version of the St. Louis Ramps because it's basically a seven win team year after year and over. I agree with acent, although I just don't expect them to be that good. At the same time, I think their offense this year is going to make a jump. I really do believe they will. I think that Tannehill, I don't all this business that he's a top ten quarterback and better than luck from Pro Football Focus in insane, utter nonsense. It feels like a clickbait type scenario. But I do think that the Dolphins are poised to make a big jump on that side of the ball. I'm with you and that I agree with DJ, and I like what I've seen from Tannehill this. I'm conflicted about the Dolphins more than just about any team in the league. I don't have a strong feeling about them at all because of what Dan said about of Philbin. It's like I have a hard time imagining that Joe Philbin team doing really well. But on paper and everything that you're saying makes sense. I mean, I think the expectations should be high for the Dolphins because if they don't win ten games, unlike I think if the Bills go e and eight, that shouldn't be viewed as some big disappoint If the Dolphins don't make the plants, that should be viewed. And what, we're the biggest player in free agency. He brought in all these but I'm coaches talking super Bowls to me, the expecting all their players spent all obvious talking about the Super Bowl. That's self generated. Though Dan let's say Pete Carroll were Miami's coach. Do you think that philbin is costing them two or three games? I mean it's a fair I think he I think he's holding them back. Yeah. I don't think we've seen anything in three years that that guy should still be the coach. This is what's gonna happen. They're gonna be like six and five, like we were saying. I think the Pats will be four and four is something at the midway point, and people are gonna get excited about the Dolphins. Oh they're one game back or one game up, then the loose four out of five and the end up like they always do right around the disappointment. I'm looking forward to your guys playoffs because there's a lot of teams in the a f C. I mean, only two, you know, wild card spots and a lot of pretty good wild card contenders if you want to throw in the Chargers, the Ravens, you know, the Bengals, the Bills, the Dolphins. Only two of those teams are going to make the playoffs. Titans, you know a lot of disappointment. The Texans. Yeah, my team, my team Laser, Uh, my team. That's gonna disappointed Dallas Cowboys. They can't do. You can't. I thought it was gonna be teams that, you know, we're good, that they're gonna come down this year really popular. You have them out of the playoffs. Yeah, I was not gonna put I have them and that's good. Then we all agreed that Cowboys are going to be a disaster this year. I don't know about a disaster. If they don't make the playoffs, it's a disaster based on all the talent that they've added on on defense out of the expectations there. They think this is their super A window is the next year or two. So I think if they did not make the playoffs this year, that would be as disappointing as any season under Jerry Jones in the last ten years. And as much as they love Jason Garrett, if they go seven and nine this year, it's like he's back on the hot seat and he's maybe gone next year because that's the type of setup that they've put themselves at right now. They think they have the best offensive line in the history of football. I think it's a good pick by Greg because I do see him as a playoff team because outside of the running back position and potentially your secondary. With Scandrick out, what position group didn't they got? What got worse? I mean they they I thought that Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones went out, You've got Lele Collins, you got Gregory on defense. They made some risky and you didn't just say you didn't just say punter and long snapper. They took steps back. They love they running back is a mess and covered up a lot of problems last year. Well, I think we've got a good inkling. Are two big flaws and they listen. That's fair. But I think also when you're a team with Tony Romo, this is there's a couple more years where Romo is a premier quarterback and frankly underrated. He's always looked at as a guy he's he was the top three quarterback last season if he stays healthy. But really, I can't count the Cowboys out with that kind of play under center, right, I couldn't count them out either. This to me is more of a what goes up is natural to fall down type of thing in the X and this franchise has shown over the years that they don't handle success particularly well. They don't necessarily handle adversity particularly well, and it just wouldn't surprise me to see them have an up and down season with a lot of drama and a nine and seven eight. But I think the Giants are going to be a better team on offense. They're gonna test teams. Philadelphia won ten games last year and it was the only double digit win team to not make the playoffs, and the skin stink. But in that division, anyone could be there. I just don't think you can expect the offense to be as good as it was in Dallas a year ago. It was one of the best offenses of the last decade. And you just a lot of times offensive lines that you think are great, they don't really stay great for long. I mean that Chief's offensive line was good for a couple of years, but it usually lasts one or two years and that's it. And then and then think everybody in Dallas loved DeMarco Murray until the day he signed with the Eagles, and then they spent the off season trashing him, saying he left meat on the bone, saying he missed too many holes. And he was Offensive Player of the Year, had more fifteen yard runs than any running back. It's like a Red Sox fan in Indianapolis. Star thing to do. Put Reggie, Wayne and Trader on the foot page and give me a break with Iniapolis. Start, give me a break. So the Bill, Rats and company whatever you are, gravits doesn't even work there all right? Whatever the generator? So the that would be Edward or really uh so the Bills, Rams, Dolphins and Cowboys you banged al right, everybody here it comes. It's time. It is the game of both skill and Valor, also known as which is Poster West. You are the champion, you have been for some time now taking on all comers. And I said, first of all those that are new to the games, you know this is a trivia game, not just the skill and valor game, a trivia game NFL history all through the years. West is the maestro when it comes to this or the maestro. And we have listeners call in and the show up on Skype. And then we've had some people from in the office take West on Greg even one once upon a time. But that's the only lost West has ever had, the old Buster Douglas. Uh So that is the game. We're gonna go through six questions and let's see, maybe West gets taken down to West at this point. Not even he used to study up and talk about how he would read and make sure he could not be defeated. Now West doesn't even think about it, and there's not much you can do to prepare. It's like you know what you do all throughout the year. Once you get into the game, you know you'll be found out in the dark in the night if you didn't prepare all you get ready listeners for all the drama of a Harlem Globe Chatters game. Right, well, this game is gonna go into invisibility if we don't get some challengers here. Yes, as I said, the two contestants that we have today, um is more pressure than in the past because the very, the very game itself could be riding on their competitiveness. So let's let's first, let's get to our first contestant. Right now, to the contestant number one, meet Justin Favor in a twenty five year Chicago Bars fan tailing all the way from Australia. Justin listened to the podcast let Us Work Commute and admires Chris Westling's knowledge of the game, though not intimidated by it. If Justin wins the toaster, he vows to quote make the best damned toast Australia's ever seen. Wow, there is, we should say this toaster, which you know emanated from the newsroom. It just happened to be there one day and I claimed it. It can print, imprint your team on the toast. They can and it's a magical toaster. Justin there. He is from London via Brisbane, Australia. Brisbane, what's up? Welcome, Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. We love our overseas listeners. Uh. They are loyal, they are smart, smart, they are funny, funny, they are foreign, foreign, and you know, in this case, handsome Justin. Uh are you nervous because like like, like we said, Justin, or like I said, this game is going away for a while while if you cannot deliver some heat right now? Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what Justin doesn't. And we are watching us on Skype. If you want to check us out, you can listen obviously, but you can also watch this unfold. Uh. He does not look to me, Greg like a tomato can. He is good friends with an Australian podcast about NFL football that Chris has been on, So, I mean, he's definitely tied into the game. He's wearing his jersey. What jersey is that right now? Says he's wearing an all time great jersey. He's a dad who's in shape. He obviously he's got you got your act against hot dad. Actually, yeah, we didn't even have you on the show to do this. We just wanted to admire your bod. Alright, just ast, so are you aware of the rules? Justin? Alright? Yeah? Six questions for each the same six questions for both West and Justin. Um sixty second time and Mark, you are the official timekeeper. Before the show started for the record fourteen straight time, you asked me how much time goes on the clock and I don't like all the people behind the glass now have a robot timekeeper. That's what I'm you know, I'm going the robot timekeeper debut. Last time we played this game and it was a total total show, so that it showed why humans and you know people, people get pumped up about robots in virtual reality and you know the you know the future enough the road mankind using an iPhone, that's the way to go in, all right, so justin we'll go first, West be gone, it's gonna disconnect. Our microphone situation has changed, no headsets ever, he's doing his best. There you guys, puts that down. It's not as smooth as it once was. There goes here aring his NFL network was tripping over the waters this week, trying to intimidate less, trying to get out. Now it's becoming a panic situation. It's like an animal steps in the bear trap, the second Harrison Ford type egsit right there, very smooth, get out of here. West, come on. Just our needs is justin. We need this, the show needs this. Well, we could just we could just bake the results and say he got the six out of six. We can always do that, all right, So six questions. If you want to pass, you could pass, and we'll come back to it and tell us when to stop. Because the tiebreaker is the time two guys get four. Whoever that got in less time wins. So at this, at the sound of the creepy synth um timekeeper music potentially stolen from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, we will begin. Who replaced Bill Parcels as Giants coach in This player theorized that the NFL had a hand in the power outage that halted Super Bowl forty eight at the super Dome. This starting running back has lost just one fumble in his first two seasons. Current ah who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl forty four for the Saints. This lineman was the first overall pick in the two thousand eight draft. Ryan Fitzpatrick made his first NFL start for what team? All right, stop the clock, but I know you gotta go back. There's out of time anyway. Well, all right, I don't know if you want to know which has happened. Justin let's keep a straight face for when West comes back. Put on a brave face, that's all I'll say. Still, very good, dad, there's a chance that you could tie. All right, there we go. We're bringing West back in. Guys, let's be strongly okay, all right, West back with us now. So we're not gonna no, nobody's showing any poker face here is just tell me how many you got right Actually, for the first time I'm going to do. You want to know how many? Guy? Right now? Because you're not in the town. I'd never tell you, all right, let's go West? Who replaced Bill Parcels as the Giants coach? Uh Ray pass. This player theorized that the NFL had a hand in the power outage that halted Super Bowl forty seven at the super Dome trail suck. This starting running back had lost just one has lost just one fumble in his first two NFL seasons. Levan Bell, who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl forty four for the Saints pass. This lineman was the first overall pick of the two thousand eight draft. Two eight draft pass. Ryan Fitzpatrick made his first NFL start for what team? St? Louis Rams? Do you want to go back? Who replaced the Bill? Who replaced Bill Parcels as Giants coach Summer? This player theorized this starting running back, no excuse me? Who kicked the onside kick to start the second half of Super Bowl Harley? All right? West? Three out of six more than enough to be a certified tomato can behind me? Three nothing. Those were tough questions you had coach he less than two years. He was not a fan favorite in New York and replaced by who was he? Replaced by West got him back to the playoffs. Jim Fossil, Listen, I think Wes as little Russey. We can get a real competitor, and here we got a shot. It was Dan Reeves. Uh Levyan bell Is fumbled twice in his first two years, lost only one. Thomas Morristead is the punter that had the onside kid. I could have gotten that. But that was tough. But you are you are you more fan than stuff like that? Was like, that was really tough. Jake Long was the first overall pick in the two thousands. Wouldn't be That's just like a random year like two th eight. Your mind doesn't naturally go. I mean these were tough. Patrick started his first game was for the Rams as a starter many after I think you started for what like six teams now once It's fair to say our friend from Australia got some tougher questions and a lot of the previous contestants. So I'm not even going to call him a tomato can. The man clearly knows his football. Yea, I will, let's uh justin, let's let's just say thank you for coming on. Maybe the questions that it go you're away this time. But we appreciate you listening and taking on West than just It's three in the morning and you stayed up until the middle of the night. You know what, we gotta get West uptil three in the morning. Haven't answered questions in the middle of the night. I got no problem with that. Justin, thank you for coming on. All right, So Justin was not the guy to take on West. Listen to every round is is different. You're getting rid of the game. So no, we have one more guys. Riz comes down to one more caller. I don't like this, and we'll see what happens. Let's go to the second contestant, Cantastic meet Ryan broad squad broders a football agnostics since and I'm Baltimore Ravens fan residing in Canada. Ryan listens to the show while taking bubble baths, and he fancies his chances of winning the toaster because he's an avid listener of the Move the Stitch podcast with Daniel chair A Maya like always was the route for this guy taking shots at us right out of the gates. All right, this is here's a little backstory with Ryan that we we had to delay a little bit because Ryan was prepared to be. First of all, Ryan, where are you calling from or where are you skyping from? And I'm just say okay, alright, So Ryan was dry iving when we when we pulled him up on Skype and he was hoping to do the segment while driving, like commuting to work or wherever he was going. So which is obviously kind of some evil, kinevil reckless stuff, but also maybe a sign of confidence. You Well, the the intro shows you're very confident Ryan, And I'll also I'll also say this Ryan, our first contestant, Tomato kan City zero out of six West took care of business, which which means if you don't compete here, if you don't put up a fight, this this entire episode, that everything about when West Coaster could be over. This is great. Greg has every reason to be rooting against Mr. Broad Squad. So do you know the rules? Ryan? Yes? Okay? So six questions. At the start of the creepy drone music, we will get going. You could pass and come back? Tiebreaker is time already? Who was involved in three fumbles in the two thou a nine NFC Championship game. Next question, who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. In next question, this Vikings quarterback started for an injured Christian Ponder in the two thousand twelve wild card playoffs. Next question, who was the starting quarterback for the Chargers when the team went to the Super Bowl. The next question, who was the bucks head coach when the team posted its last winning season? At This Packers wide receiver led the NFL with fourteen touchdowns in two thousand twelve. James Jones, Do you want to go back? Yes? Who was involved in three fumbles in the two thousand nine NFC Championship. Next question, who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. Jez, Well, this what happens when you listen to them Move the Sticks podcast exactly. Listen to us more and maybe you got something. Did say it was a damn fan that was part of his list? I missed that. Well, now upset because I would have been looting harder for you. Uh, listen, is a chance you can There's a chance you can win if West you know, we'll have a seizure between now and city. Major medical incident here. Bring West back in. Everybody be bray from West has a chance to again sweep the competition, But who knows? You never know. Let's get right to the questions. Good luck, Buddy boy, who was involved in three fumbles in the two thousand nine NFC Championship game. Who followed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears? Half This Vikings quarterback started for an injured Christian Ponder in the two thousand twelve wild card playoffs? Uh right? Who was the starting quarterback for the Chargers when the team went to the Super Bowl? In Staying Humphries? Who is the Bucks head coach when the team posted its last winning season? RhE worries? This Packers wide receiver led the NFL with fourteen touchdowns in two thousand twelve. James Jones? Do you want to go back? Who filed Mike Dick as coach of the Chicago Bears. I don't know why. I don't know this um ten seconds? I don't know all right, stop clock, official scorekeeper. That would be three for West, three for Chris Westling, one for broad broad squad West. You are the winner an underwhelming fashion west backson in the playoffs? Well lost? And those are Harvard questions. Ryan, you can safely get back onto the motorway, and thank you very much for listening and liking me. That gives you extra points. And perhaps in a better day you would have gotten questions that would have clicked with you, you know, and uh, yes, and and go Yankees? All right? Can get it? Can we get the correct answers? Yes? Here are the correct answers? Uh. Adrian Peterson, he fumbled twice and was involved in aboutch handoff exchange in the two thousand nine NFC Championship game. You said Ray Rice, Uh, Dave wants that replaced Mike Dicka. Joe Webb was the quarterback the Kevin Rush and Ponder and I think he's eleven for thirty with two picks. He was terrible. Stan Humphreys started for the Chargers. Raheem Morris the young the young Rebucks. Uh so they had Raheem. There a lot of people thought Jake Ruden and James Jones, which you both got. That was the only one that Ryan gotten. By the way. That's it, And I love our listeners. Any competitions going forward, at least for the time being, will come in house, because I simply I can't. One for twelve is not a sustainable model. West got a big fat oh for two. If I was going up against him today, he would have been gone because you know the answers already. No, I didn't say. I didn't exactly. It's easy to say when there's no clock. Oh, it's got to be. It is easy to say when I'm undefeating against you. Six for twelve for West, which means guess you can be beaten. And next time we play random questions and exactly trivia, and next time we play this game West. The excuses are getting bigger and they're carrying over different things, whether it's Cornhole or this game. Maybe we ring the Boss back in. Maybe the Boss is back, but it's not gonna be for a while. This game is gonna go away for a while. We've got to dream it up again. This is uh. That's it for Friday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We'll be back next week with three shows a lot to get to until then. This is then hands as signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss, and TV behind the Glass for almost the Rendy week. When coming off
