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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to
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welcome back to the show Darryl Ann.
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Darryl doing great. How are you, Alex?
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I'm doing great, my friend. Thank you so much for
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coming back. Our last conversation did Gangbusters. People loved our
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conversation and still people are watching and listening to it
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around the world. And it's been a it's been at
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least six months, I think at least.
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Yeah, that's time for me right now. Is just I
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don't even remember what Dave.
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Is, but it was, but it's it did very, very well.
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And I called you up and say, hey, you want
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to come back on. I'm sure we can find other
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things to talk about, and uh.
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So me again, I really appreciate it.
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No, I appreciate you, my friend. What you what you
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and and the work you're doing with Bishar is pretty
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remarkable and funny enough, many of my other guests always
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come back like, oh, I saw your interview with Darryl.
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I love Bashar and I'm like, I'm good friends with Daryl,
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and they're like really, I'm like, yes, it's so fun.
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It's just fun again. And for people listening, listen to
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the first episode. You know, Darryl and I go back
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for thirteen years, I think.
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At this point, yes, probably at least.
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And I had no idea there bar the whole Bashar
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side of his world. For six years of our relationships
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just doing movies. We were just doing movies together. And
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it's not something that you advertise, you know, wear a
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T shirt that goes I Channel Bashar. Though, I'm just
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throwing that out. There might be some merch for you.
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Yeah, I'm a telephone for an alien exactly.
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But but yeah, so I wanted to bring you back,
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and I had a couple of questions that hopefully will
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help people listening. My first question is, you know you've
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been channel Bashar now for almost forty years at this point,
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can you tell me why he chose now to send
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his message in the in the escape of humanity's history
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right now?
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Look what's going on on our planet?
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I mean the couple things.
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Yeah, you're not too much. That's a very dull place,
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I think. Well, first, of all our in the sense
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invitation energetically to extraterrestrials. By starting to explore space, that
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we are becoming aware we're not the only planet around,
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probably not the only civilization. That kind of triggers a
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message to them energetically that we might be ready for
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some form of connection, some form of dialogue to see
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whether we want to move forward with the idea of
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contact or not. So that's one thing. Secondly, obviously we
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are in need of different tools at this point. You know,
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in the twenty first century, we have to sort of
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let go of a lot of outdated and old fashioned
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definitions and ideas, and they recognize that now is the
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time to introduce some new ideas and definitions, and hopefully
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that makes a change in our reality or at least
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some people's reality, to again sort of change our vibration
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and bring us closer to the possibility of making contact
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with them.
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So let me ask you. Then, you said something that's interesting,
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that we have to let go of old ideas, things
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that aren't serving us anymore. But so many of these ideas,
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these things that we're doing, are so entrenched that it's
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almost impossible at this point unless there's a group, collective
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choosing of change, kind of like I think when the
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pandemic happened, it was the first big shock to the
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system where now people are working from home, people are
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reevaluating their lives. It was that giant break that the
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entire planet essentially needed. It was very odd. It's never
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happened in human history to my understanding.
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Yeah, not certainly in this way. But again, they take
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advantage of those kinds of things. They recognize that that
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is a psychological change, a shift where people start looking
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for different things, start opening up to different ideas, and
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so they're willing to sort of use that and see
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what we're willing to absorb. But it doesn't have to
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necessarily happen all at once. Collectively, you know, the more
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individuals changed themselves, then over time it becomes a collective,
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you know, just like anything, each generation starts becoming a
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new collective with new ideas. I mean, think about it
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this way. Really, you know, since you know, the late sixties,
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there has been no one born who doesn't think we
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haven't been in space, right, So it's like, you know,
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when I was born, that was not something that was true.
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But you know, now, what thirty year olds, forty year
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old's fifty year olds have always thought that we've been
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in space. So that's a big shift in our collective
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consciousness and an opening, like I said, kind of an
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invitation for other beings to recognize that we may be
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ready for more awareness of what's in space.
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So is because a lot of them, of the ideas
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and messages that Bashar puts out, they are you know,
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talking about space and talking about technology to a certain extent,
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but it's all about internal growth, internal evolution of the
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human soul and humanity in general. I have to ask
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why do they care? Why even bother we're savages.
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Well in some senses, without going into a deeper explanation
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of this story, we are family with them, so they
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see us that way, and we have actually some genetic
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connection to his civilization. That's a big story. It's a
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long story, but they do see us as family and
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they are trying to help. They know what it's like
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to be part of a larger galactic community. They know
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what it can do for a civilization in terms of
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changing their perspective and outlook on life and so but
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again they're not forcing us to do anything, which is
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why they're sort of staying in the background and just
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delivering information in various ways through channels and so on
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and so forth, to see what we're willing to take on,
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what we're willing to grab on to, and then decide
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for ourselves whether we want to go farther. But from
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their perspective, the kind of civilization they are, they are
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passionate about helping people wake up. It's just the way
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that they're oriented because they know what it's done for
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them to have evolved to this point where they expand
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their consciousness and what's available to someone when their consciousness
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is open. And you know, again they're not forcing us
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to take their word for it, but they're saying, here's
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a toolkit, and if you apply this in your life,
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you'll prove to yourself that there are other ways that
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you can live and maybe that will make a difference
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in how you experience life on their world. Oh, it's
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just the way they operate.
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So when you said awake, and that's something and I
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have a book read behind me that says awake and awaken,
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and Yogis have been talking about it for five thousand years,
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to awaken out of Maya and this illusion and it's
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been many different philosophies and religions over the years. We'll
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be right back after a word from our sponsor, and
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now back to the show. Can you explain when you
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say awake? Is that word which a word that's been
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coined now it's simulation theory, which is essentially maya which
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we are in an illusion? Is that what you mean
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by awake? You're awakening to the reality of Oh, this
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isn't real.
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We are in.
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This different level of existence, but this is not the
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end all be all.
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Yeah, that's part of it. And I would say when
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we use the word illusion, I want to be careful
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because it's not that the experience of physical reality isn't real.
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The experience is very real. But we are, according to him,
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and like you said many other teachers over time, we
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are the ones creating this illusion. It's a projection of consciousness.
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I just saw a recent article that you know, even
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quantum physics is starting to catch up to the idea
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that hey, all of this is just a holographic projection
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of some sort from somewhere. So even science is starting
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to talk about the ephemeral nature of physical reality. And
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so yeah, it's about becoming aware that what we experience
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in life is our creation, and that it's determined by
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what we believe to be true about ourselves and what
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kind of process we're attempting to experience to help ourselves
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learn and grow. From Bashar's point of view, that's the
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whole point of physical reality. It's sort of like forgetting
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that you're an expanded being so that you can rediscover
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that you're an expanded being from another perspective. And that's
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how creation expands. Because the structure of existence, according to him,
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never changes. It is what it is, but your relationship
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to it, your experience of it, your perspective of it, changes,
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and that's how creation grows. And so the idea of
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going through these physical experiences, these limited experiences, with the
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attempt or potential to break through that illusion and realize
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that you have created this for yourself for a specific purpose,
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really expands your consciousness, gives you a whole different perspective
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on life, and just makes things a lot more understandable.
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Right because it seems, you know, when you don't have
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that kind of understanding of a wider consciousness, this all
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seems random and chaotic.
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Chaos, crazy, yeah, you know, but when you understand the
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nature of it and the structure of it and how
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we create it, and which is what Bishar explains a
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lot of then it becomes something that you can really
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be in the driver's seat about and have the experience
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that will still give you the lessons you want to
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learn and help you grow. But it doesn't have to
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be suffering. It doesn't have to be a struggle anymore.
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So this is our awakening, is that we don't necessarily
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have to struggle, We don't have to suffer. Challenges, of course,
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will always come around, but from Bashard's point of view,
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challenges are fun. It's what helps us get a new
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perspective and grow. So it's not about losing the challenges,
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but it's about losing the suffering and the struggling that
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we've been prone to for thousands of years because our
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choices have been limited, because our knowledge has been limited.
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So they're trying to help us understand how things really work,
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expand our knowledge of the universe and creation and reality
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so that we have more tools to work with, so
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that we can more creative people in a way that
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doesn't make us struggle and suffer.
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So you mentioned that we choose our reality, and we
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choose this projection that's in front of us. Can you
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kind of dig into that a little bit, explain it
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to people who might not understand that we are literally
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creating the reality that we're walking every day.
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Yeah, I know, there's a lot of confusion in using
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that word, and you know, the language itself is very limited.
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So when I say, and when Bashar says, we choose,
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it doesn't mean that we're choosing consciously. So in other words,
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it's not like saying, oh, you know, you consciously choose
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to get into an accident. But what he's saying is
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the belief systems, the definitions about yourself in relation to
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life that you are choosing because you've been taught to
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choose them, like I'm not worthy, or you know, bad
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things inevitably happen to me, or things like that that
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are sort of simmering around in the unconscious mind cause
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certain effects to happen. And that's what he means by
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we're choosing it and we're creating it. And so a
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big part of his information is how to get in
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touch and become aware of the beliefs that you've bought
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into about yourself in relation to anything that happens, so
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that you can have a better definition and a better
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relationship with that thing and use it to your advantage
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instead of going on automatic, so to speak, and just
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letting the unconscious beliefs run your life. It's becoming more
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aware of yourself, more awake about who you are. It
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kind of goes back to that old saying, know thyself
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and really investigate yourself to understand why do you believe
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what you believe about yourself? Why do you still hold
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on to something that maybe your parents, your schooling, your friends,
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or your society taught you that isn't working for you,
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that isn't who you really are. So it's really about
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digging deeper in yourself, finding out what you believe to
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be true and understanding whether or not you want to
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keep holding onto that or replace it with a definition
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and a belief that better suits you. That will then
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cause a change to happen in the way you experience
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your life and your physical reality.
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But what you're suggesting is for many people scary to
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look inward, to look inside, to analyze yourself.
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Is why is it scary? That's another definition. That's another
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day we get caught up in these chains and links
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of definitions, one reinforcing the other. So we have a
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lot of definitions that even prevent us from finding those
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definitions because we're too afraid that if we go looking,
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what we're afraid will will be true, will be true,
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and from Bashar's perspective, it's never really going to be true,
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because you know, we're a part of creation. We're reflections
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of creation God all that is, whatever you want to
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call it, and from his point of view, creation doesn't
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make mistakes. So if we exist, which we do, then
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we're worth of that existence. And to believe that we're
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not worthy, we're not deserving in a sense, is arguing
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with creation. Well, Bashar says, we'll never win that argument
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because we can never cease to exist. So you might
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as well take it on the fact of your existence
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that you are worthy of your existence and stop, you know,
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bemoaning and berating yourself and thinking less of yourself. We
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are reflections of creation, and we are here to allow
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creation to be all that it is. So you know,
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we have to start at this very fundamental level of
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breaking those chains of negative definitions that keep us down.
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have a lot of these definitions, so finding them, bringing
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them to the surface, going wait a minute, this makes
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no sense. It doesn't make sense in life to think
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this way, to believe this way is the first step
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from Bishar's point of view, as to how we start
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breaking those chains and freeing ourselves to realize we can
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choose the define miss that work for us because we
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are each unique. We have a different perspective from anyone else,
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and we are a unique part of creation, and we
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deserve to express our full selves in life.
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So is that is that what is happening right now
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in society in general? I feel that that that there's
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a lot of stuff that was under the surface is
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bubbled up, and that's why there's so much more everything,
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I mean, between war and violence and politics and economy.
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Is that what's happening in humanity right now?
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He said that very very because people say, you know,
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why is it so crazy right now? And he's saying, well,
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you know, you've been doing this cycle of negativity for
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thousands of years. You're kind of at the end and
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you're about to shift into something different. But in order
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to do so, you kind of have to get everything
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out on the table. All of the negativity, all of
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the positivity, every choice that could possibly be made, you're
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now sort of seeing in one place. So it's giving
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us an opportunity. Need to go do we want to
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continue this way? I mean, look how strong the reflections
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are of you know, things that are going on now,
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Like you're saying, you know, war and racism and all
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this stuff is just really bubbling to the surface because
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it's about time for us to face all these issues
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and really make choices about what kind of world we
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want to have. So it's a little more complex than that,
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but Bishar is basically saying, like, here's your opportunity. It's
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only going to you know, probably be available for a while,
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and some people are going to make certain choices that
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take them in one way, and other people going to
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make choices that take them in another direction. And what
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he's saying is, you know this this goes into the
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whole idea of parallel realities because he's saying everything exists
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all at once. You know, time is an illusion, and
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there are different versions of Earth that exist right now.
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And the idea is not that we change the world
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we're on, but that we change our vibration and it
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navigates us in the direction of a parallel version of
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Earth that's already more reflective of what we prefer or
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what we don't. So right now, it's like a melting
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pot of ideas. Here's negativity, here's positivity, here's neutrality, here's
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all these things we could choose. What do you want
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to choose?
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So when people start choosing one thing over another, even
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individually and collectively, they start going that way, and eventually,
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he's saying, in the years to come, you know, the
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more people that choose a particular direction will actually sort
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of create a crystallization of that perspective for themselves and
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will no longer be able to even experience people with
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a different idea. So he's saying this is called the
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splitting prism from his perspective, and it's like we're literally
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in a train station and we're deciding what train and
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what track we're going to be on. But eventually whatever
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train you've bored is going to be the only train
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that you can go on to because now all the
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tracks are going away in different directions, and once you're
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too far away on your direction, it's going to be
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even harder to go and decide, oh, I want to
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be on that other train, because now it's like hundreds
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of miles away. So this is the time of choice.
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This is the time of choosing what reality we want
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and what we will inevitably experience. While other people will
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experience other kinds of realities completely different than ours, but
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they'll experience that in a different parallel reality.
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this reality, there are people who are experiencing things at
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completely different levels, whether it's poverty, whether it's violence, whether
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it's everything. Is it true from Baschard's point of view,
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that we are vibration and the higher the vibration is
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what we attract to us. So in other words, you know,
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a Yogi mass or a Sufi, a Sufi master or
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something like that is probably not going to get mugged
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on the street, give or take.
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There is a lesson in there that he has to
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learn business share it. But generally speaking, generally speaking, yes,
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it's all about resonance. It's all about frequency. What you
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put out is what you get back. It's like a
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tuning fork. You know, you operate at a certain frequency.
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That's what you get reflected back to you, because that's
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all that you can get reflected back to you. He's
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basically saying, you can't experience what you're not the vibration of,
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and conversely, you can only experience what you are the
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vibration of. Now Again, as we said, there's some leeway
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in there about what happens because people have been trained
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to assign particular meaning to certain kinds of things. And
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basically Bishar is saying he doesn't mean this negatively. Life
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is meaningless, it has no built in meaning. We give
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it meaning and that's how we experience. And so whatever
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vibrational level you're at is how you start interpreting the
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neutral things that are happening and you infuse them with meaning,
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and that starts coloring your world about how you see
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things and how you experience things, because you can, if
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you really stop and think about it, you can experience
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a lot of events in very different ways, depending on
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your vibration, on your attitude, on your relationship to what's happening.
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And he's saying, if you stay in a positive state
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no matter what's happening, even if something's happening, you don't
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objectively prefer It's got to be happening for a reason.
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If you're experiencing it, and if you stay in a
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positive state, you'll be able to get a benefit from it.
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You'll be able to learn something from it that will
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propel you forward in a positive way. He's saying, even
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if nothing else, it can be as simple as you know,
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manifesting something in front of you that you don't prefer
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gives you clarity about what you do prefer by contrast,
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and that's a positive way to use what you don't prefer.
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And when we use it that way, instead of thinking, oh,
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this thing manifested in my life, something must be going wrong.
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I'm doing something wrong. I shouldn't be experiencing this. I
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should be beyond this. If it's happening, it's happening for
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a reason. It's there, and it's there, maybe even to
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test yourself to see are you going to react the
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same old way and give it the same old negative
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definition that you used to, or are you going to
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respond differently to the situation, Because from his perspective, it's
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not about the outside world changing that proves you've changed.
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It's about you responding differently to what's going on, even
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if it still looks the same. That's what proves you've changed,
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because if you really haven't changed, and you really respond
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the same old way or react the same old way,
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well then why should the outside world change because you
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really haven't because you're still reacting the same way you
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used to. So reacting differently, responding differently is what actually
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change is all about, and then ultimately will cause the
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outside to change, because it's just a mirror. It's just
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a reflection. And it's like saying I'm looking in mirror
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and I'm watching my face frown, but I insist that
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it should smile. It's not going to smile until you do.
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It just can't. It's a mirror, right.
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It's like when I was younger, I had road rage
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because I was an angry dude when I was younger,
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and I mean, I mean, I mean, I come from
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Los Angeles, Jesus uhlive. But but as I've gotten older
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and hopefully evolved a bit more as an adult or
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as a soul, things like that don't bother. I don't
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take it personal. If someone's like, I'm like, I just
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walk and just let it go. But when I was younger,
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I would just got in there. It was crazy, right.
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Because you have definitions, unconscious definitions that you think something
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wrong is happening to you right now?
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Dare you cut me off?
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Right? And who I am? Yeah? I heard a story
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the other day about a a person at the check
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encounter at an airport who was facing a customer like that, right,
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he didn't get what he wanted, like, don't you know
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who I am? And she just got on the intercom
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and said, if there's someone in the airport who can
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come and help us, I have a gentleman here who
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doesn't know who is way to handle that?
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What an amazing way to handle that. Oh my god,
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that's amazing. You touched upon something in regards to know
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everything being meaningless in a sense, and I understand what
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you mean by that and the concepts of good and bad,
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and that from my understanding, from what I've been able
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to comprehend, is that good and bad are relative concepts
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that we apply based on our moral set that is
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given to us by our societies.
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There are value judgments. Vishar avoids using the words good
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and bad. He talks about positive and negative energies, and
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from his perspective, that's really just a mechanical discription. In
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other words, positive is what unites, what expands, what connects.
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Negative is simply what segregates, diminishes, separates, you know, and
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can sort of you know, reduce your perspective, limit your perspective.
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So he's really talking about the idea that, yes, there
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can be positive, there can be negative, but sometimes you
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can also use a negative thing for a positive reason
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and a positive thing for a negative reason. So that's
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why he avoids the idea of the value judgments of
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good and bad because that's really nebulous from his perspective.
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And he's trying to describe what's happening to us energetically
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and mechanically when we think about it in terms of
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positive and negative energy or a mechanism that we're using,
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because look at I mean, we've got you know, we
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are these expanded beings, these unlimited spirits, but we have
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used the idea of a negative mechanism to limit our
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consciousness in order to have a physical experience, because we
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are more than this. So we're using a quote unquote
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negative mechanism for a positive reason. And that's why it's
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not just cut and dried, black and White Da him
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depends on what you do with it. How do you
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use it?
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Now you mentioned Bashard's formula. Can you there's I think
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four or five steps in that. Can you just yeah, five?
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Can you just quickly kind of go over those five steps?
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Sure? And each of these require a deeper explanation for
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people to truly understand how this works. And this is
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a toolkit. In fact, he actually refers to it as
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an instruction manual, the same way that you would get
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an instruction manual to operate a piece of machinery. He said,
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if you follow the instructions, the machine will work as
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advertised to your benefit. If you don't, maybe the machine
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will work, but maybe you'll injure yourself or something else
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will fall apart in the machine. So the five steps
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in his instruction manual or the formula are to act
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on your passion, to do it as fully as you can,
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for as long as you can, until you can do
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it no further. To act on it. And this is
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a big one for a lot of people, to act
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on it with absolutely zero assumption or a zero insistence
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on what the outcome of that action should look like
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or be. Number four, stay in a positive state no
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matter what happens, because you can get a benefit out
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of it that way. And number five, you have to
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allow yourself to really examine your belief systems to find
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out why you believe what you believe, because very often
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we just do it out of habit. And so it's
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those five things allow people to gain an insight and
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gain in a sense control over their lives when they're
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applying this very specifically and very precisely in their lives.
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When they do that, all these things start happening that
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are connected to it. Our lives become synchronistic, more synchronosity
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happens in our lives. It becomes a path of least resistance.
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It connects us to other expressions of our excitement. It
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becomes the driving engine in our lives, giving us the
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energy to move forward. It reflects to us anything out
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of alignment within our belief system so that we can
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examine it and let it go. It connects us to
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whatever form of support we need. These things happen automatically
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when you follow those five steps. It's really magical. But
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it is not just the idea of magic. It's the
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idea that this is how reality works. He's actually describing
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to us how we're creating our reality, but we don't
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know that we're doing it this way. So when we
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follow those five steps for the reasons that he explains
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why they're important, then it just opens everything up and
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you start seeing how everything is connected and how you
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can take advantage of any situation that happens in your
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life and see it from a completely different perspective. It's
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really quite astonishing.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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and now back to the show. And it's pretty powerful.
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Steps those five steps. You can do that, which is not,
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by the way, easy all the time.
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Believe that's a belief.
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I mean, yes, I.
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Know what you mean. I know what you mean. It
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is challenging because we are so ingrained in outdated definitions. Correct,
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you're right and that. But he's also said, there's no
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such thing as a difficult situation. Only our definitions make
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it difficult. So we have to hold on to the idea.
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This is why it's so important from his perspective, to
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create new definitions, because a lot of metaphysical thought, a
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lot of spiritual thought, is structured on very outdated definitions,
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and we're not understanding we may be describing an experience,
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but we're not necessarily describing the mechanism that is causing
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the experience, even though we may think we are. So
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that difference, I mean, let this analogy works. He is
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given will say that the sun sets. We know the
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sun doesn't set. We know the Earth evolves, and that's
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why we see that experience. So describing the experience of
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a sunset doesn't describe the mechanism that causes that experience.
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And this is the vast difference. What he's saying about
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certain metaphysical concepts we have and why we think they work,
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are not why they work. And by getting caught up
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in the old definitions, we get caught up in repeating
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the same patterns, the same habits, and all this kind
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of stuff, and we can't figure out how to get
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out of it. It's the new definitions. It's seeing the
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mechanism for what it is that creates the experience, that
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frees us to see things in a different way. In
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the same way that when scientists decided, oh, it's the
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Earth that revolves around the sun, and the Sun isn't
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actually revolving around the Earth, it changed our entire reality.
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So it's the same thing metaphysically that Vishar is attempting
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to do for us is give his definitions that unlock
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us from the past and propel us toward the future
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from a completely different perspective.
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So those definitions that you're talking about that are outdated,
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those those definitions when they were created, were created for
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the time and evolution of the people at that moment
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in time, which is basically religion. A lot of ideas
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that were talked about two thousand years ago don't apply
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too much right now because in the Bible, slavery was okay,
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I mean pretty much everyone had it back then. Now
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it's frowned upon and as it should be. But that's
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an example, a very you know, a very interesting example
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of old ideas, old definitions at old just everything that
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don't apply to us today and how it needs to evolve.
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Is that a fair statement, Yes, And that's exactly what
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he's doing. So again, a deeper understanding of the metaphysical
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side of that evolution, again is what allows us to
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understand how reality works more deeply and allows us to
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sort of open our eyes and say, oh, you know,
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I am free to do this, I am free to
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see things in a different way. I am free to
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explore something I never thought I could explore because I
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didn't understand how it actually worked. So now we can
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do that if we understand the information that he's sharing
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with us.
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And again, I mean, I've brought this movie up so
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many times on the show, and I'll continue to bring
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it up because it is just such a deep, onion
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layered film, which is the Matrix. You're a sci fi guy,
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I'm a sci fi guy. We'd love that kind of stuff.
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But the more you look at the first Matrix, the
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more you understand that journey. As as Neo is starting
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to realize his true nature, he's starting to understand how
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to bend reality in the matrix, which is an analogy
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for our illusion if you will or maya if you will,
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the reality we're in, he's able to start bending it.
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So obviously that's a fantastical way of looking upon it.
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We're not going to maybe we could dotch bullets, I'm
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not sure, but being able to move our reality in
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a different way, and I've experienced very, very heavily that
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ability to be able to shift reality in the directions
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I wanted to go. And it start off with some
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small little things. But as you get older and you
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start practicing it more, you start going no, I think,
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go here there.
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And it's like anything you practice and you get better
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at it and your reality starts reflecting that ability. So yeah,
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I and I'm seeing insane synchronicities in my life that
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are just you know, crazy stuff, but it's becoming the normal.
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You know, things just happen, Things just show up when
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they need to precisely perfectly, and it's like, okay, you
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know that that tells me I'm aligned with myself and
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that I'm applying these things in the way that actually
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makes me able to speer my life in a better direction.
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So yeah, there are actual physical results to this.
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Yes, it's pretty it's and I know a lot of
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people talk about the law of attraction and now the
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whole secret thing, and there is a I think that
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was just such a top layer of that concept, but
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it did introduce it to a mass amount of people.
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Yes, And actually Bashar relatively recently talked about how there's
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a little bit of a misunderstanding with the law of attraction.
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It is what you put out is what you get back.
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But I, at least as far as I was exposed
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to it, and it's not wrong. The idea that you
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have to be of a certain frequency to attract certain
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things is correct. I think where he's saying we have
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a little bit of a misunderstanding is we think we
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have to learn that frequency. What he's saying is it's
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just the opposite. We are that frequency. That's our natural state.
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It's our core vibration, and our core vibration is designed
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to attractt everything we need in life. So it's not
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about having to learn that frequency. It's about getting out
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of its way. It's about not having beliefs that block
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that frequency. So it's more a matter of getting things
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that aren't relevant for us out of the way than
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it is having to learn how to give off that
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frequency that's our natural frequency.
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It's kind of like taking layers off of clothes. Little
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like you're stacked on with tons and tons of coats
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and jackets and sweaters, and slowly but surely you're pulling
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it away to get to the true essence of who
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you are without all that crap on you.
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Exactly, if you want the sun to reach your skin,
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you've got to take all those clothes.
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Off, right, and little by little but we walk around
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many with tons and tons of stuff on top of you.
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Right, So when you know, when people go around thinking, Okay,
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I've got to learn this frequency, it's kind of like
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they don't really realize that they're wearing all these clothes,
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you know. It's like they're trying to do something that
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they're already doing but don't know they're doing, and it
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causes a lot of diffusion. So if they realize that
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that frequency is really who we are and we just
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have to strip off all this other stuff that's not
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who we are, then it's an easier idea. It's something
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that we can start looking specifically at, well, what is
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in the way of that frequency, rather than what do
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I do to learn that frequency? You know, because that
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can be kind of very nebulous, what do I do?
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You know? But it's like, oh, I can find this
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negative belief, I can find this fear based belief within me,
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and I can let it go, and that clears the
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way for that frequency to attract what you're named because
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it's already operating like a whitehouse.
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And that's the thing. It's just knowledge, it's just information
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that we need to If you don't know what you're
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looking for. So that's the insanity of what we were
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talking about, which is like, I need to find how
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to run faster, learn how to run faster with all
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these coats on. I'm like, you could just take off
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the coats, but you don't know that you're wearing the
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coats exactly.
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And that's that, to me, is the essential benefit of
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Bishard's information. He's exactly telling you what to look for
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and how to let it go, how to take that
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code off. Specifically mechanically speaking, it's just like, this is
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an instant manual. Unbutton the button, unbutton the button, unbutton
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the button, take it off. He's literally guiding us that specifically.
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Well, it's Plato's allegory of the cave. I mean, it's
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essentially it. We're trying to let everybody know there's something outside.
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It's not going to be afraid it, don't be afraid.
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I know there's a lot of light outside, but go
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outside is much better than this shadow show on the
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walls that we've been thinking is real exactly.
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But see, here's the thing he talks about, you know,
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the structure of beliefs, positive negative beliefs, because physical reality
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isn't real beliefs are what make it seem real because
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they reinforce themselves with emotions and thoughts and behaviors that
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reinforce the idea that what the belief is telling us
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is a fact. But when you understand the belief is
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just a belief, then you can deconstruct it and let
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it go. But beliefs are designed to perpetuate themselves because
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they have to, or we wouldn't have a physical experience
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because physical reality isn't real. So a positive belief, we
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don't care if it reinforces itself because we like what
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it's telling us about ourselves. But the negative beliefs have.
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To use we'll be right back after a word from
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our sponsor and now back to the show, sort.
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Of negative mechanisms to reinforce themselves. They're not doing it maliciously,
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it's just the way they're designed to perpetuate a physical experience.
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So many times a negative belief will will have its
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own set of tools, so to speak, to prevent you
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from finding it, so it'll make you afraid to look,
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which you have to right exactly, so you have to
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be aware that that is not a fact, that something
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worse will happen if you go looking for the negative belief.
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It's just what the negative belief is telling you in
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order to perpetuate itself so that you can keep having
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a physical experience. Once you understand that, you have a
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skeleton key to unlock it, because now you go, oh,
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it's not a fact. This is just a story it's
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telling me about myself. I don't have to buy into
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this story. I can replace it with a different belief
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and have a different story experience.
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And the term story, you know, I've said that so
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many times, is the story that you tell yourself, is
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the story you live. So if you believe that you
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are you know, loved, and are worthy of happiness and
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worthy of you finding your dream and finding your mission
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in life, and if you're all, that's all a story.
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Where earlier in my life, I'm sure you as well,
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before you started going down this path, you know, you
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were probably I mean I was. I was angry. I
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was angry, I mean angry at at why I was
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working with you know, twenty three year old filmmakers who
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got three million dollars for their future. I'm like, who
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the hell gave you this money?
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Yeah? Exactly, Angry for a lot of reasons. You don't
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even know why you're angry.
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You know, I was, I was so, I was so.
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I mean, I can't explain to you how angry I
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was as a young man for no reason, because I
722
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would be. I lived well, I had a family who
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loved me, I had food over my had I had
724
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no major traumas that I can think of, at least
725
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.400
that were I was pretty good. Looking back, it was
726
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me I would have slapped.
727
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Myself, yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, wake up. But yeah, you know,
728
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but we see, we pick up a lot of stuff,
729
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you know, body language, telepathically, all this stuff, growing up
730
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in a society that is angry at not realizing its
731
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full potential. See deep down, we know, you know, we
732
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know that we're off base in a lot of ways.
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And I think that because we haven't had the tools
734
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to deal with that specifically, at least not you know,
735
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for the mass consensus. You know, we get angry at ourselves,
736
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and we get angry at life, and we get angry
737
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why isn't it the way it wasn't spirit? And you know,
738
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why can't we do this? And why can't we do that?
739
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We forget that we are here for a reason to
740
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learn something until we mature enough to start seeing that idea.
741
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So yeah, we kind of come in picking up all
742
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sorts of anger from the society that's been experiencing negative
743
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things for thousands of years. And even, like you said,
744
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when we have a great benefit in our lives, or
745
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several benefits in our lives, we tend to ignore that
746
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and overlook it because we're just so caught up in
747
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this emotional turmoil that is human society on earth and
748
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.400
has been for thousands of years with few exceptions, you know,
749
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but all the great teachers that have come along, you
750
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know whatever, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, whatever, they've all been saying
751
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the same thing. And it's not like, really follow me.
752
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.719
It's be like me. That's what it means. Sure, absolutely right.
753
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:05.880
Not one of them is like you must bow down,
754
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you must get you must worshiped. None of them said that.
755
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.000
No, When you know, when Jesus says I am the way,
756
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.760
he means, be this way and everything will pull together,
757
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.039
he's not. It's not I'm the only one. He even said,
758
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.960
you know, you are gods and you will do greater
759
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things than I have done. So you know, people aren't
760
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.440
really listening to that. Because they're so used to feeling
761
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:32.039
worthless and powerless that all they can do is latch
762
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.400
onto someone who isn't and follow them. But then a
763
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whole bunch of misinterpretations happen because they think that person
764
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has all the power and they have none. All these
765
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teachers have been trying to tell us we have all
766
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the power and we are we are internally the kingdom
767
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:53.079
of God. You know, it's just people aren't really.
768
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.639
You know, right, as Yogunanda said, Christ was crucified for
769
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one day and his teaching is crucified for two thousand
770
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:03.480
years black which is it's perfect, a perfect, perfect saying
771
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which I glanted to ask you because you've met you
772
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brought them up, these kind of masters, these kind of
773
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ascended masters, as in Eastern Philosophy's call days ascended masters.
774
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What is Bouchard's feeling about those those teachers, those masters,
775
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over the course of thousands of years who've come, and
776
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there's been many of them. It's not Jesus just happens
777
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to have a really good pr person. So does Buddha.
778
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.280
Exactly well, he says exactly what I said. It's like,
779
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you know, our collective consciousness gives us these opportunities through
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these beings on a regular basis every now and then
781
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for every culture, and it's our opportunity to really open
782
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up and pay attention to what they're telling us instead
783
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of falling back into the old definitions. I am powerless,
784
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you are all powerful. I have to give you my fealty,
785
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and I'm worthless and nothing without you. We have to
786
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stop lit listening to that story, because that's not the
787
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story that these ascended masters are telling us.
788
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.800
Yeah, exactly. Now, I wanted to ask you what the
789
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Shards definition of a soul is.
790
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A soul is an expression of your consciousness on a
791
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certain level that explores expanding itself in a specific number
792
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of ways. Because there are higher levels to that, some
793
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of which have been referred to in literature as over souls.
794
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Of course, you know source all that is, God and
795
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everything in between. But a soul is an individuated reflection
796
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of all that is. In the same way, let's say
797
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you're standing in the center of a hall of mirrors
798
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and you see a reflection. That one reflection is a
799
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unique reflection from a unique angle, unique perspective to him,
800
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.239
that's a soul. But because everything is made of consciousness,
801
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it's also conscious. So each individual soul is a unique
802
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.559
reflection of God, Goddess, all that is that has its
803
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.960
own unique ability to understand itself, to know itself from
804
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that unique perspective, thus adding to the overall experience of
805
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all that is of itself. So the soul, the individual soul,
806
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.599
can have individual experiences rather than collective ones. It's designed
807
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for the purpose of being able to sort of split
808
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itself into non physical and physical consciousness, to have a
809
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physical reality experience. I mean, from Bashark's perspective, because physical
810
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reality is an illusion. He's saying, your natural state is spirit.
811
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You are there now, you're in spirit. You're kind of
812
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just pretending that you're not. You're dreaming that you're not
813
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.119
in spirit. A part of you is dreaming that it's not,
814
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but most of you is in spirit. That's your natural state.
815
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And I would say, you know, in a sense, that's
816
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your individual soul. Does that explain it enough? Yeah?
817
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I mean, I mean it's a fairly large question. So
818
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I think you did fine. You know, it's like, what's
819
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the meaning of life? Like, I mean, it's not a
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one answer, one sentence answer, but no, that's a really
821
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.079
good I just wanted to get Bschard's perspective on that
822
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concept of a soul because it's so it's been defined
823
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so many different ways, again depending on societal and religious
824
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and things.
825
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And none of them in a sense are wrong definitions.
826
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They're just different perspectives of that different.
827
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They're different parts of the elephant in the room.
828
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Yeah, you know, it's kind of like it goes back
829
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to what we're saying about, you know, ascended masters and things,
830
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.920
where you know, the way we look at it is,
831
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:55.440
you know, you have all of these antagonistic excluding kinds
832
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of things where you know, one group is saying, hey,
833
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Jesus is God, and another group is saying no, Christna
834
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is God. And another group is saying Jehovah is God,
835
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and another people saying Allah is God. But it's not
836
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that Jesus is God, Christiana is God, Allah is God,
837
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Jehovah's God. It's that God is Jesus, God is Allah,
838
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God is Jehovah, God is Christian. God is anything and
839
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everything and all of us and all that is. We're
840
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made of it. We're made of God. There is nothing
841
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.679
outside of it. From Bisharkh's perspective, so it's it's we're
842
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reversing the idea back to understanding that none of the
843
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religions in a sense are wrong. It's just that they're
844
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.119
misunderstanding that there's a bigger picture to the idea and
845
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.440
they have a piece of it. They have a reflection
846
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:44.079
of the whole, not the whole from some or their
847
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culture for their perspective.
848
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Right, And again it's just tribal, it's it's societal. I mean,
849
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.159
depending on where you wherever you were born, is the
850
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.239
perspective of morals you're going to get right exactly.
851
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.920
So in a sense, it's just people have to understand
852
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.039
that all of those things are true and not just
853
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.719
all I have the right one and you don't, and
854
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.199
you're going to hell because you don't. You know, all
855
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.760
of that in a sense is true. There are misinterpretations
856
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.679
in it, but the thing of it is is it's
857
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.320
all equal because it doesn't matter what path you take.
858
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.719
It all leads to the same understanding.
859
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
860
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:37.039
and now back to the show. So you bring up
861
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.199
a good point on something that there's a lot of
862
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.599
stuff going on in the world right now, and there's
863
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:48.039
a lot of quote unquote bad stuff happening or things
864
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.480
like that negatively, a lot of yet negative things happening.
865
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.800
Why do and this is a question I know a
866
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.559
lot of people have. This is why I'm asking it.
867
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:02.239
Why does God allow people like putin?
868
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.199
Yeah, I think that's the wrong I think that's the
869
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.280
wrong question because God, God, being everything, doesn't need to allow.
870
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.159
God just is it just is. We are making the choices.
871
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.960
We have the freedom to choose. That's our greatest power.
872
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.840
We can be negative, we can be positive. You have
873
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.440
to realize that when you go to a dictionary and
874
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.159
look up the word unconditional, it means there are no conditions.
875
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.719
If we say, oh, God is unconditional love, we have
876
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.079
to really stress the word unconditional. It doesn't matter because
877
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.760
everything is God. So yes, there are negative expressions of it,
878
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.719
there are positive expressions of it, but it's in our hands.
879
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.239
That's why we're individuated souls. We get to decide how
880
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:47.199
to express the idea. It's not that God willed it
881
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.679
or allows it. It just is part of what God is,
882
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.519
and we get to decide. The control is in our
883
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.719
hands about how we want to express the part of
884
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:01.719
God we are. So we can't blame God for not
885
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.280
stepping in and intervening. Because it's an unconditional experience to exist,
886
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.679
we get to decide what that existence is. Like.
887
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:13.960
It's just like it's just like at the beginning of
888
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.159
a football game. One one team has got on their side,
889
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.079
the other team has got on their side. I mean,
890
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:21.039
they're all both praying to like I need to win,
891
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:22.960
I need to I love the other person, but I
892
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.800
want to destroy them today. Can you help me? Jesus?
893
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:26.840
Like I always found that fascinating.
894
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.960
Yeah, And likewise, it's like, Okay, you know some people
895
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.320
when good things happen, you know, they go praise Jesus.
896
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.280
Why don't they say praise Jesus when things don't go
897
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.559
their way? Isn't that also something that could serve them?
898
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.400
You know? But again it's that tribal, limited focused kind
899
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.760
of idea that it's you know, it's all about me,
900
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.840
and it's all about my connection and no one else's
901
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.159
and it's just you know, it's everything, it's everything, and
902
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.800
we get to decide what it is. So that's what
903
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.880
God is all about, is we get to decide. That's
904
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.199
what it means to have free will. Yes, we set
905
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:03.920
up our own destinies. But within that we have our
906
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.639
own free will too, so it's up to us.
907
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.159
Now, a question I have for you is do we
908
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.920
have spiritual guidance through our lives? Do we have beings that,
909
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:19.880
whether it be a sended master, spirit, guides, angels, whatever
910
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.280
on the other side, who are guiding us through our
911
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.440
our blueprint of our life though as we have set
912
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.079
it out before, our life plan to teach us the
913
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:31.119
lessons that we need to learn.
914
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.960
Yes, they help, they guide, but they don't do it
915
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.360
for us corre, because it's up to us. But they
916
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.440
do suggest they do God. I mean in a sense
917
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.519
that question is almost like saying, well, do we have
918
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.000
friends in life? Do we have family? Sure? Well, why
919
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.880
is spirit any different? We have friends, we have family there,
920
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.360
we have people that we may have interacted with in
921
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.880
various ways. We may have people that are just simply
922
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.079
doing it because that's what they've chosen to do. So, yeah,
923
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.480
we have guides, We have help. We always have help.
924
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.960
And you know, Bashar has often said, which as a
925
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.880
phrase I really like, is that you know you don't
926
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.239
have to ask for more help. He said, You're being
927
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.320
given all the help you can possibly be given what
928
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.440
you need to do is awaken and pay attention to
929
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.119
the help you're already getting. You just have to be
930
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.280
more aware of it. That's what praying is for, and
931
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.880
stuff like that, is just making yourself more grateful for
932
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.960
what you're already receiving because you're giving. You're being given
933
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:28.199
everything you can possibly be given. Nothing is being withheld
934
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.679
from you. It's wakening to the fact that you are
935
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.320
in a state of appreciation and gratitude for what's already
936
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.119
helping you, and then you can start perceiving it more
937
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.559
clearly by being in that state again, what you put
938
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:41.519
out is what you get back.
939
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.360
Very true, very very true. You know, another another question
940
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I have for you, and I'd love to hear Bashard's
941
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.599
point of view in this, you know, and please tell me.
942
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.320
I don't want to answer it, but really, but what
943
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:00.320
part does religion have in our evolution as a as
944
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.760
a society throughout history, not just now?
945
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.000
Well, it depends on the person and what they get
946
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.599
out of it, really, I mean, okay, anything in physical
947
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.920
reality he calls a permission slip. In other words, it's
948
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some technique, some tool, some objects, some ritual, some situation
949
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you believe you need to give yourself permission to be
950
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.719
more of who you are. If religion is the way
951
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.280
that works for you, that's the way that works for you. Now.
952
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:33.280
I know, in general, religion generally can be disempowering in
953
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the sense of, well, you need me to tell you
954
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how to relate to God and you don't have that
955
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.159
ability yourself, well, which I think is nonsense. But again,
956
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.079
if it's a technique, a tool, a path that works
957
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.559
for you to allow you to know more who you are,
958
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.400
to be a more positive, creative person, go with it
959
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.199
all day long. It's fine, it doesn't matter. But if
960
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.559
you're using it in the negative way to segregate, to separate,
961
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.639
to look down upon on, to feel better than you know,
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than others, and stuff like that, I think it's lost
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00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.480
its meaning and it's simply taking the form of the
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fear based beliefs that are in the person that is
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00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:13.679
practicing that religion.
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And to piggyback on that, what is Bischard's point of
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00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:24.559
view on reincarnation and that idea? Because there are billions
968
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of people.
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Don't you think I know? I know it? Okay, again,
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now we're getting into you know, real deep metaphysics here.
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Reincarnation to him is real as an experience, it's not
972
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.800
an accurate description of the mechanism. In other words, again,
973
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:46.119
everything exists at once. Time is an illusion. So if
974
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.760
everyone and everything exists at the same time and it's
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00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.320
only separated by this illusion of time, then to him,
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00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:01.000
the experience of reincarnation is created like this, what we
977
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call the past is something that exists right now. What
978
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:07.239
we call the future is something that exists right now.
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We make an energetic connection to someone that exists right
980
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.239
now in what we call the past as a label,
981
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:21.039
because we need to download experience and information from them
982
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.920
that will help us in this life. In this theme
983
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.800
that we're exploring, we because we're stuck in linear time,
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so to speak, stuck, we're focused, we'd be a better word.
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Because we're focused in linear time. We treat that energetic
986
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connection and download of information as a memory. I used
987
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:45.159
to be that person. No, that person is that person.
988
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.400
But you're making a connection to that person and downloading
989
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.199
information and interpreting it as a memory so that it
990
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.239
seems as if you are reincarnated as that person. So
991
00:56:56.360 --> 00:57:01.719
you can have the illusional experience of reincarnate. You can
992
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.599
create the feeling that I've lived before and I will
993
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.760
live again as another person. But since all people exist
994
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.800
at the same time, it's really functioning more like a
995
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:18.159
dynamically interactive internet, where you're exchanging information constantly in the
996
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.880
present to all these other beings. But linearly looking at
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00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.599
it as if while I was this person now and
998
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.280
this person, I'll be that person. So you're using linear
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00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.960
time to create the experience of reincarnation. But all of
1000
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.559
this is happening at the same time. It's multiple simultaneous
1001
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.599
incarnations on a higher level, what you might want to
1002
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.559
call the oversoul. We might all be extensions of the
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00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:46.599
same higher oversoul. And from that level you can say, well,
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00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.159
that's my life and my life, and that's my life
1005
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.800
and that's my life, but only as the higher level,
1006
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:56.760
not as the individuated person. Does that make sense?
1007
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.519
It does. We're definitely getting into the weeds, deep into
1008
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.239
the weeds here.
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This is why Bashar preps us over years to understand
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00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.880
things like parallel realities. Time is an illusion. He really
1011
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.079
can explain the whole mechanism of how this functions. And
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00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.159
again that's one of the things of the difference between
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00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.800
the definition of an experience and the definition of a
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00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.079
mechanism that's making the experience happen.
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00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.960
And I think you're right when when you're saying the
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00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.440
Bashar is prepping you these concepts. Even in my own life,
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00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:32.039
things that I hold as truths now, I thought was
1018
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:38.000
crazy when I was younger, because I couldn't comprehend these Yeah, yeah,
1019
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.360
how is that possible? How could I ever do this
1020
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.599
in my life? How could I ever do that in
1021
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.719
my life? These are beliefs that you slowly but once
1022
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.440
the seed is dropped, right, it does grow. Sometimes the
1023
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.119
soil is just a fertile.
1024
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.400
True not being water enough, and it's a barren.
1025
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.960
But other times you do you know now and I
1026
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:03.920
and again it's only as you get older you look
1027
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.119
back and you go, oh, I was being prepped for.
1028
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.960
I read this book that threw these ideas into my
1029
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.639
head that I never thought of before.
1030
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:14.920
Right, it's all hours. Although now there are new generations
1031
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.480
coming up that understand these things more quickly, because I
1032
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.480
think they forget less of who they are. They're not
1033
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.519
taught to forget a little and they are so you know.
1034
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:27.480
And that's another thing that's happening in with Bshard's information too,
1035
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.559
is you know, I've now run into, you know, ten
1036
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.360
year old kids that they can explain exactly what he's saying.
1037
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.480
They get it. They just get it. Oh, it's exactly
1038
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.760
makes sense to them, you know.
1039
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.159
Yeah, I mean, I mean I have kids as well,
1040
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:41.960
and you could just see them, like, my god, they're
1041
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:46.480
so much better prepared for life than I was at
1042
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.760
that age. We'll be right back after a word from
1043
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:58.880
our sponsor and now back to the show. But at
1044
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.199
that but my parents, parents were just didn't have the information.
1045
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.760
The tool sets weren't there in the in the world
1046
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.440
at that time, and the consciousness of the of society
1047
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.599
wasn't there. I mean, and I always use the concept
1048
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.079
of like meditation, like in the seventies you were meditating,
1049
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.360
you were crazy, you were nuts.
1050
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.000
And talk about yeah crazy. And channeling in the beginning
1051
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.599
was like what the hell are you talking about?
1052
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:26.440
I can only imagine forty years ago. Darryl like, you're like,
1053
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:28.719
so I'm a channel. I'm sorry, what do you want
1054
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.960
to change the channel? No, no, you're I'm a channel.
1055
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:32.719
I talked to somebody else and they come through me
1056
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.320
and they're like, sir, this right, this way to the way.
1057
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:37.719
Just put this white coat on. I know, this leaves
1058
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.480
are a little bit longer, just put them on.
1059
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:42.519
Right this way.
1060
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.519
But no, but now, But now the concept of channeling
1061
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.079
is not only more broadly accepted, it's still not widely accepted,
1062
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.480
but broadly accepted. But it's in the it's in the
1063
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.360
vernacular of society. People are like, oh, I was channeling,
1064
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.760
I was channeling this great person to do this or
1065
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.840
so these But these ideas weren't around forty years ago.
1066
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:09.039
So you can see ideas changing without question.
1067
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.039
Right, because definitions change, so you know.
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01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.000
It's it's fantasty. So one question, another question I have
1069
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:19.920
for you about Bishar. What does he see in the
1070
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.840
coming years for humanity? Is he having he is he
1071
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.960
seeing anything that is he is? He is a positive
1072
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.599
or a negative scenario moment for.
1073
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.480
Again, remember back to what we were saying about, you
1074
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.039
never change the world you're on. You change yourself and
1075
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.400
you go to a version of earth, You shift to
1076
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.880
a version of Earth that is already more reflective. So
1077
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.719
it depends on each individual as to what they will
1078
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:46.159
experience in the future. He's very loath to make prediction.
1079
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.360
The only the few rare occasions he's made predictions. He's saying, look,
1080
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.199
there's no such thing as a prediction of the future.
1081
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.639
He's saying. What a person is doing when they predict
1082
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.039
is they're sensing the energy that exists in present and
1083
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.559
if that energy has a lot of momentum behind it
1084
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.360
and it's unlikely to change, there's a high degree of
1085
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.159
probability it will manifest. However, you have to realize that
1086
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.119
once a prediction is made, it changes the energy because
1087
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.679
now you know about it, and if you don't prefer
1088
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.079
what it's telling you is inevitable, you can actually change that.
1089
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:23.760
So that's why the only few times he's ever made predictions,
1090
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:27.840
he's saying, it's unlikely this momentum is going to change. Therefore,
1091
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.719
I will tell you that this is the highest probability.
1092
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:36.039
I remember in nineteen ninety eight, it's on record in
1093
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.000
a recording he said before the end of two thousand
1094
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.320
and one, there will be a terrorist attack in New York.
1095
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:45.000
He said, this is unlikely to change, and obviously we
1096
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.920
had nine to eleven. So there are times when he
1097
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:52.599
can pick up on the highest probability and say this
1098
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.719
is what the highest probability is, and it's unlikely to change,
1099
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.559
which is the only reason I'm telling you about it.
1100
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.079
But other than that, he doesn't usually want to make predictions,
1101
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.559
especially because again, as I just said, it's up to
1102
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.159
each individual as to what they're really going to experience
1103
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.360
in the future if they change themselves.
1104
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:13.079
And it's when you say that everyone experiences or shifts
1105
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:18.400
into another earth, that is one that they experience, regardless
1106
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:21.320
of whether you believe in parallel earth or any and
1107
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:25.960
that stuff. That's fine. But in the Great Depression, some
1108
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:30.159
people were on the street. Other people's made fortunes. During
1109
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.800
two thousand and eight, some people coasted through, other people
1110
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.920
lost everything. Right now, there's people living very different lives.
1111
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.559
People in the Ukraine are living very different lives that
1112
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:45.199
we're living here. There's different experiences at the same moment
1113
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.639
in time all the time. Everywhere you go, there's always
1114
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:52.159
a different But if we're experiencing the same event, certain
1115
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.599
people handle it differently or experience it differently than others.
1116
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:57.679
And it's throughout history that's been the case.
1117
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.039
Yes, And the idea again is you know, to really
1118
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.400
take this another step further. We're shifting all the time.
1119
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.760
We're shifting right now, We're shifting billions of times per
1120
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:11.719
second into different parallel versions of Earth. It's just that
1121
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.760
we do it so smoothly we don't realize we're shifting.
1122
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:19.599
So the idea is, because physical reality is an illusion,
1123
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:25.480
the very concept of movement actually entails shifting through different
1124
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.159
parallel realities in much the same way that an animated
1125
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.239
film shifts through different frames to create the illusion of
1126
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:37.679
movement on the screen. So even doing this, according to Bishar,
1127
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:42.159
entails having shifted literally through billions of different parallel realities.
1128
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.039
Because this is a reality. This is a reality, This
1129
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.239
is a reality. This is a reality again, just like
1130
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:50.519
frames on a film strip. And he's saying, it's just
1131
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.360
happening so fast you don't realize it's happening. You're not
1132
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.760
seeing the flicker going from one frame to another.
1133
01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.559
Well, I've never heard it explain like that before, but I,
1134
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.119
as a don't maker, I completely understand what you're saying now,
1135
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:07.119
because every frame is a different expression of that scene,
1136
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.360
and only when they're played back to back or the
1137
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:14.320
shift is when you get the illusion of movement. Movies
1138
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.239
video is an illusion of they're just still frames played
1139
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:20.199
back at a certain frame.
1140
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:25.119
Rate, saying physical reality is actually structured that way. That's
1141
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.360
why there are parallel realities because you have an infinite
1142
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.079
number of frames and you can go in any direction.
1143
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.199
So it's a batter of your frequency choosing which frames
1144
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:39.400
you're experiencing and which frames you're agreeing to experience similar
1145
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.599
to someone else, which allows us to have this conversation.
1146
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.960
We are both agreeing that we will shift through frames
1147
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.159
that allow this conversation to exist, but we're still shifting
1148
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.519
through frames, and my reality shift is not your reality shift.
1149
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.239
Your reality shift is a different reality. But we're agreeing
1150
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.599
to shift through frames that make it appear as if
1151
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:01.840
we're sharing the same reality, which we're not.
1152
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.760
My head's my head's about to mushroom cloud. That's no,
1153
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.719
it's great, it's it's amazing. Darryl, thank you so much.
1154
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.880
I'm gonna ask you last few questions I asked all
1155
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.480
of my guests. You were going to say something go ahead, no, no, no,
1156
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:21.079
go ahead. What is your definition of a good life.
1157
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.800
Being true to yourself, being who you really are?
1158
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.960
How do you define God all.
1159
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.719
That is everything, nothing is outside of it?
1160
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.440
And what is the ultimate purpose of life.
1161
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.639
Being yourself and allowing yourself to add to the expansion
1162
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.760
of existence? I mean, it's again, goes back to who
1163
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:47.599
are you really as a reflection of all that is?
1164
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.960
What is it that makes you you? And how much
1165
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:55.800
can you really be that you? Can you see through
1166
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.880
the illusion? Can you learn to grow? Can you learn
1167
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.519
who you are more deeply? Can you be more of yourself?
1168
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.679
Can you act on the things that are truly you?
1169
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.039
Which is what passion is all about. Passion is an
1170
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.480
indication of your true life, your true vibration. So it's
1171
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.920
being you, it's knowing yourself and being willing to act
1172
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:15.239
on that.
1173
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:18.440
And dere Where can people find out more about you
1174
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:20.960
the work you're doing with Bishar, your books, your courses,
1175
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:22.519
your videos, all that kind of stuff.
1176
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:25.119
They can go to two different websites. They can go
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01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.639
to Bishar dot org, b A s h A r
1178
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.599
dot org or they can go to darryl Anca dot
1179
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.840
com b A R R Y l A n k
1180
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.800
A dot com to find out what's going on with us.
1181
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.239
Yeah, and you have a fantastic YouTube channel. You put
1182
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:41.440
out videos all the time with Bishar. Is that correct?
1183
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.159
All sorts of ways to you know, hear what he
1184
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.320
has to say. There's there's literally hundreds of recordings of
1185
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.519
events that Bshar has done, and you know people are
1186
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.840
welcome to explore and decide for themselves whether it's something
1187
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:56.280
that they are interested in.
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There it has been a pleasure my friend. Talking to
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is always I can talk to you for days, so
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please come back again. Absolutely, I love it, I love talking.
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I love talking to you, my friend, and I again
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thank you for not only coming back, but also for
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all the amazing work you've been doing over these four decades,
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which is impossible because you look twenty five, so I
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don't understand.
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Daney has been very, very good to be my friend.
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Appreciate you. Thank you so much.
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Thanks Alex, take care.
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Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to
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welcome back to the show Darryl Ann.
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Darryl doing great. How are you, Alex?
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I'm doing great, my friend. Thank you so much for
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coming back. Our last conversation did Gangbusters. People loved our
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conversation and still people are watching and listening to it
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around the world. And it's been a it's been at
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least six months, I think at least.
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Yeah, that's time for me right now. Is just I
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don't even remember what Dave.
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Is, but it was, but it's it did very, very well.
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And I called you up and say, hey, you want
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to come back on. I'm sure we can find other
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things to talk about, and uh.
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So me again, I really appreciate it.
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No, I appreciate you, my friend. What you what you
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and and the work you're doing with Bishar is pretty
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remarkable and funny enough, many of my other guests always
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come back like, oh, I saw your interview with Darryl.
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I love Bashar and I'm like, I'm good friends with Daryl,
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and they're like really, I'm like, yes, it's so fun.
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It's just fun again. And for people listening, listen to
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the first episode. You know, Darryl and I go back
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for thirteen years, I think.
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At this point, yes, probably at least.
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And I had no idea there bar the whole Bashar
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side of his world. For six years of our relationships
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just doing movies. We were just doing movies together. And
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it's not something that you advertise, you know, wear a
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T shirt that goes I Channel Bashar. Though, I'm just
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throwing that out. There might be some merch for you.
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Yeah, I'm a telephone for an alien exactly.
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But but yeah, so I wanted to bring you back,
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and I had a couple of questions that hopefully will
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help people listening. My first question is, you know you've
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been channel Bashar now for almost forty years at this point,
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can you tell me why he chose now to send
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his message in the in the escape of humanity's history
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right now?
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Look what's going on on our planet?
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I mean the couple things.
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I think. Well, first, of all our in the sense
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invitation energetically to extraterrestrials. By starting to explore space, that
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we are becoming aware we're not the only planet around,
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probably not the only civilization. That kind of triggers a
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message to them energetically that we might be ready for
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some form of connection, some form of dialogue to see
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whether we want to move forward with the idea of
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contact or not. So that's one thing. Secondly, obviously we
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are in need of different tools at this point. You know,
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in the twenty first century, we have to sort of
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let go of a lot of outdated and old fashioned
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definitions and ideas, and they recognize that now is the
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time to introduce some new ideas and definitions, and hopefully
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that makes a change in our reality or at least
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some people's reality, to again sort of change our vibration
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and bring us closer to the possibility of making contact
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with them.
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that we have to let go of old ideas, things
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that aren't serving us anymore. But so many of these ideas,
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these things that we're doing, are so entrenched that it's
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almost impossible at this point unless there's a group, collective
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choosing of change, kind of like I think when the
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pandemic happened, it was the first big shock to the
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system where now people are working from home, people are
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reevaluating their lives. It was that giant break that the
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entire planet essentially needed. It was very odd. It's never
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happened in human history to my understanding.
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advantage of those kinds of things. They recognize that that
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is a psychological change, a shift where people start looking
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for different things, start opening up to different ideas, and
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so they're willing to sort of use that and see
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what we're willing to absorb. But it doesn't have to
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necessarily happen all at once. Collectively, you know, the more
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individuals changed themselves, then over time it becomes a collective,
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you know, just like anything, each generation starts becoming a
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new collective with new ideas. I mean, think about it
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this way. Really, you know, since you know, the late sixties,
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there has been no one born who doesn't think we
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haven't been in space, right, So it's like, you know,
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when I was born, that was not something that was true.
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old's fifty year olds have always thought that we've been
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in space. So that's a big shift in our collective
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consciousness and an opening, like I said, kind of an
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invitation for other beings to recognize that we may be
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ready for more awareness of what's in space.
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and messages that Bashar puts out, they are you know,
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talking about space and talking about technology to a certain extent,
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but it's all about internal growth, internal evolution of the
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human soul and humanity in general. I have to ask
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why do they care? Why even bother we're savages.
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of this story, we are family with them, so they
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see us that way, and we have actually some genetic
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connection to his civilization. That's a big story. It's a
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long story, but they do see us as family and
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they are trying to help. They know what it's like
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to be part of a larger galactic community. They know
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what it can do for a civilization in terms of
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changing their perspective and outlook on life and so but
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again they're not forcing us to do anything, which is
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why they're sort of staying in the background and just
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delivering information in various ways through channels and so on
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and so forth, to see what we're willing to take on,
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what we're willing to grab on to, and then decide
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for ourselves whether we want to go farther. But from
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their perspective, the kind of civilization they are, they are
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passionate about helping people wake up. It's just the way
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that they're oriented because they know what it's done for
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them to have evolved to this point where they expand
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their consciousness and what's available to someone when their consciousness
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is open. And you know, again they're not forcing us
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to take their word for it, but they're saying, here's
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a toolkit, and if you apply this in your life,
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you'll prove to yourself that there are other ways that
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you can live and maybe that will make a difference
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in how you experience life on their world. Oh, it's
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just the way they operate.
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So when you said awake, and that's something and I
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have a book read behind me that says awake and awaken,
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and Yogis have been talking about it for five thousand years,
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to awaken out of Maya and this illusion and it's
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been many different philosophies and religions over the years. We'll
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be right back after a word from our sponsor, and
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now back to the show. Can you explain when you
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say awake? Is that word which a word that's been
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coined now it's simulation theory, which is essentially maya which
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we are in an illusion? Is that what you mean
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by awake? You're awakening to the reality of Oh, this
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isn't real.
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We are in.
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This different level of existence, but this is not the
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end all be all.
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Yeah, that's part of it. And I would say when
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we use the word illusion, I want to be careful
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because it's not that the experience of physical reality isn't real.
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The experience is very real. But we are, according to him,
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and like you said many other teachers over time, we
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are the ones creating this illusion. It's a projection of consciousness.
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I just saw a recent article that you know, even
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quantum physics is starting to catch up to the idea
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that hey, all of this is just a holographic projection
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of some sort from somewhere. So even science is starting
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to talk about the ephemeral nature of physical reality. And
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so yeah, it's about becoming aware that what we experience
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in life is our creation, and that it's determined by
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what we believe to be true about ourselves and what
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kind of process we're attempting to experience to help ourselves
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learn and grow. From Bashar's point of view, that's the
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whole point of physical reality. It's sort of like forgetting
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that you're an expanded being so that you can rediscover
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that you're an expanded being from another perspective. And that's
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how creation expands. Because the structure of existence, according to him,
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never changes. It is what it is, but your relationship
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to it, your experience of it, your perspective of it, changes,
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and that's how creation grows. And so the idea of
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going through these physical experiences, these limited experiences, with the
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attempt or potential to break through that illusion and realize
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that you have created this for yourself for a specific purpose,
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really expands your consciousness, gives you a whole different perspective
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on life, and just makes things a lot more understandable.
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Right because it seems, you know, when you don't have
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that kind of understanding of a wider consciousness, this all
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seems random and chaotic.
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Chaos, crazy, yeah, you know, but when you understand the
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nature of it and the structure of it and how
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we create it, and which is what Bishar explains a
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lot of then it becomes something that you can really
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be in the driver's seat about and have the experience
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that will still give you the lessons you want to
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learn and help you grow. But it doesn't have to
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be suffering. It doesn't have to be a struggle anymore.
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have to struggle, We don't have to suffer. Challenges, of course,
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will always come around, but from Bashard's point of view,
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challenges are fun. It's what helps us get a new
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perspective and grow. So it's not about losing the challenges,
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but it's about losing the suffering and the struggling that
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we've been prone to for thousands of years because our
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choices have been limited, because our knowledge has been limited.
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So they're trying to help us understand how things really work,
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expand our knowledge of the universe and creation and reality
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so that we have more tools to work with, so
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that we can more creative people in a way that
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doesn't make us struggle and suffer.
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So you mentioned that we choose our reality, and we
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choose this projection that's in front of us. Can you
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kind of dig into that a little bit, explain it
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to people who might not understand that we are literally
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creating the reality that we're walking every day.
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that word, and you know, the language itself is very limited.
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it doesn't mean that we're choosing consciously. So in other words,
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it's not like saying, oh, you know, you consciously choose
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to get into an accident. But what he's saying is
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the belief systems, the definitions about yourself in relation to
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life that you are choosing because you've been taught to
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choose them, like I'm not worthy, or you know, bad
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things inevitably happen to me, or things like that that
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are sort of simmering around in the unconscious mind cause
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certain effects to happen. And that's what he means by
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we're choosing it and we're creating it. And so a
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big part of his information is how to get in
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touch and become aware of the beliefs that you've bought
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into about yourself in relation to anything that happens, so
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that you can have a better definition and a better
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relationship with that thing and use it to your advantage
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instead of going on automatic, so to speak, and just
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letting the unconscious beliefs run your life. It's becoming more
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aware of yourself, more awake about who you are. It
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kind of goes back to that old saying, know thyself
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and really investigate yourself to understand why do you believe
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what you believe about yourself? Why do you still hold
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on to something that maybe your parents, your schooling, your friends,
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or your society taught you that isn't working for you,
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that isn't who you really are. So it's really about
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digging deeper in yourself, finding out what you believe to
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be true and understanding whether or not you want to
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keep holding onto that or replace it with a definition
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and a belief that better suits you. That will then
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cause a change to happen in the way you experience
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your life and your physical reality.
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But what you're suggesting is for many people scary to
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look inward, to look inside, to analyze yourself.
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Is why is it scary? That's another definition. That's another
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day we get caught up in these chains and links
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of definitions, one reinforcing the other. So we have a
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lot of definitions that even prevent us from finding those
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definitions because we're too afraid that if we go looking,
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what we're afraid will will be true, will be true,
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and from Bashar's perspective, it's never really going to be true,
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because you know, we're a part of creation. We're reflections
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of creation God all that is, whatever you want to
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call it, and from his point of view, creation doesn't
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make mistakes. So if we exist, which we do, then
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we're worth of that existence. And to believe that we're
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not worthy, we're not deserving in a sense, is arguing
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with creation. Well, Bashar says, we'll never win that argument
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because we can never cease to exist. So you might
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as well take it on the fact of your existence
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that you are worthy of your existence and stop, you know,
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bemoaning and berating yourself and thinking less of yourself. We
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are reflections of creation, and we are here to allow
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creation to be all that it is. So you know,
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we have to start at this very fundamental level of
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breaking those chains of negative definitions that keep us down.
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And we don't even know or are aware that we
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have a lot of these definitions, so finding them, bringing
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them to the surface, going wait a minute, this makes
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no sense. It doesn't make sense in life to think
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this way, to believe this way is the first step
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from Bishar's point of view, as to how we start
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breaking those chains and freeing ourselves to realize we can
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choose the define miss that work for us because we
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are each unique. We have a different perspective from anyone else,
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and we are a unique part of creation, and we
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deserve to express our full selves in life.
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So is that is that what is happening right now
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in society in general? I feel that that that there's
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a lot of stuff that was under the surface is
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bubbled up, and that's why there's so much more everything,
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I mean, between war and violence and politics and economy.
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Is that what's happening in humanity right now?
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He said that very very because people say, you know,
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why is it so crazy right now? And he's saying, well,
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you know, you've been doing this cycle of negativity for
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thousands of years. You're kind of at the end and
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you're about to shift into something different. But in order
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to do so, you kind of have to get everything
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out on the table. All of the negativity, all of
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the positivity, every choice that could possibly be made, you're
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now sort of seeing in one place. So it's giving
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us an opportunity. Need to go do we want to
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continue this way? I mean, look how strong the reflections
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are of you know, things that are going on now,
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Like you're saying, you know, war and racism and all
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this stuff is just really bubbling to the surface because
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it's about time for us to face all these issues
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and really make choices about what kind of world we
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want to have. So it's a little more complex than that,
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but Bishar is basically saying, like, here's your opportunity. It's
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only going to you know, probably be available for a while,
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and some people are going to make certain choices that
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take them in one way, and other people going to
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make choices that take them in another direction. And what
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he's saying is, you know this this goes into the
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whole idea of parallel realities because he's saying everything exists
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all at once. You know, time is an illusion, and
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there are different versions of Earth that exist right now.
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we're on, but that we change our vibration and it
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navigates us in the direction of a parallel version of
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Earth that's already more reflective of what we prefer or
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what we don't. So right now, it's like a melting
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pot of ideas. Here's negativity, here's positivity, here's neutrality, here's
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all these things we could choose. What do you want
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to choose?
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So when people start choosing one thing over another, even
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individually and collectively, they start going that way, and eventually,
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he's saying, in the years to come, you know, the
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more people that choose a particular direction will actually sort
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of create a crystallization of that perspective for themselves and
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will no longer be able to even experience people with
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a different idea. So he's saying this is called the
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splitting prism from his perspective, and it's like we're literally
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in a train station and we're deciding what train and
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what track we're going to be on. But eventually whatever
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train you've bored is going to be the only train
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that you can go on to because now all the
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tracks are going away in different directions, and once you're
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too far away on your direction, it's going to be
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even harder to go and decide, oh, I want to
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be on that other train, because now it's like hundreds
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of miles away. So this is the time of choice.
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This is the time of choosing what reality we want
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and what we will inevitably experience. While other people will
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experience other kinds of realities completely different than ours, but
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they'll experience that in a different parallel reality.
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this reality, there are people who are experiencing things at
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completely different levels, whether it's poverty, whether it's violence, whether
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it's everything. Is it true from Baschard's point of view,
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that we are vibration and the higher the vibration is
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what we attract to us. So in other words, you know,
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a Yogi mass or a Sufi, a Sufi master or
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something like that is probably not going to get mugged
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on the street, give or take.
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There is a lesson in there that he has to
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learn business share it. But generally speaking, generally speaking, yes,
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it's all about resonance. It's all about frequency. What you
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put out is what you get back. It's like a
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tuning fork. You know, you operate at a certain frequency.
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That's what you get reflected back to you, because that's
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all that you can get reflected back to you. He's
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basically saying, you can't experience what you're not the vibration of,
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and conversely, you can only experience what you are the
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vibration of. Now Again, as we said, there's some leeway
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in there about what happens because people have been trained
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to assign particular meaning to certain kinds of things. And
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basically Bishar is saying he doesn't mean this negatively. Life
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is meaningless, it has no built in meaning. We give
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it meaning and that's how we experience. And so whatever
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vibrational level you're at is how you start interpreting the
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neutral things that are happening and you infuse them with meaning,
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and that starts coloring your world about how you see
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things and how you experience things, because you can, if
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you really stop and think about it, you can experience
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a lot of events in very different ways, depending on
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your vibration, on your attitude, on your relationship to what's happening.
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no matter what's happening, even if something's happening, you don't
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objectively prefer It's got to be happening for a reason.
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If you're experiencing it, and if you stay in a
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positive state, you'll be able to get a benefit from it.
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You'll be able to learn something from it that will
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propel you forward in a positive way. He's saying, even
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if nothing else, it can be as simple as you know,
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manifesting something in front of you that you don't prefer
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gives you clarity about what you do prefer by contrast,
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and that's a positive way to use what you don't prefer.
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And when we use it that way, instead of thinking, oh,
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this thing manifested in my life, something must be going wrong.
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I'm doing something wrong. I shouldn't be experiencing this. I
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should be beyond this. If it's happening, it's happening for
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a reason. It's there, and it's there, maybe even to
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test yourself to see are you going to react the
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same old way and give it the same old negative
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definition that you used to, or are you going to
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respond differently to the situation, Because from his perspective, it's
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not about the outside world changing that proves you've changed.
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It's about you responding differently to what's going on, even
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if it still looks the same. That's what proves you've changed,
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because if you really haven't changed, and you really respond
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the same old way or react the same old way,
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well then why should the outside world change because you
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really haven't because you're still reacting the same way you
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used to. So reacting differently, responding differently is what actually
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change is all about, and then ultimately will cause the
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outside to change, because it's just a mirror. It's just
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a reflection. And it's like saying I'm looking in mirror
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and I'm watching my face frown, but I insist that
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it should smile. It's not going to smile until you do.
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It just can't. It's a mirror, right.
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It's like when I was younger, I had road rage
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because I was an angry dude when I was younger,
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and I mean, I mean, I mean, I come from
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Los Angeles, Jesus uhlive. But but as I've gotten older
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and hopefully evolved a bit more as an adult or
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as a soul, things like that don't bother. I don't
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take it personal. If someone's like, I'm like, I just
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walk and just let it go. But when I was younger,
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I would just got in there. It was crazy, right.
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Because you have definitions, unconscious definitions that you think something
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wrong is happening to you right now?
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Dare you cut me off?
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Right? And who I am? Yeah? I heard a story
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the other day about a a person at the check
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encounter at an airport who was facing a customer like that, right,
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he didn't get what he wanted, like, don't you know
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who I am? And she just got on the intercom
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and said, if there's someone in the airport who can
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come and help us, I have a gentleman here who
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doesn't know who is way to handle that?
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What an amazing way to handle that. Oh my god,
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that's amazing. You touched upon something in regards to know
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everything being meaningless in a sense, and I understand what
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you mean by that and the concepts of good and bad,
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and that from my understanding, from what I've been able
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to comprehend, is that good and bad are relative concepts
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that we apply based on our moral set that is
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given to us by our societies.
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There are value judgments. Vishar avoids using the words good
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and bad. He talks about positive and negative energies, and
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from his perspective, that's really just a mechanical discription. In
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other words, positive is what unites, what expands, what connects.
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Negative is simply what segregates, diminishes, separates, you know, and
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can sort of you know, reduce your perspective, limit your perspective.
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So he's really talking about the idea that, yes, there
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can be positive, there can be negative, but sometimes you
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can also use a negative thing for a positive reason
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and a positive thing for a negative reason. So that's
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why he avoids the idea of the value judgments of
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good and bad because that's really nebulous from his perspective.
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and mechanically when we think about it in terms of
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positive and negative energy or a mechanism that we're using,
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because look at I mean, we've got you know, we
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are these expanded beings, these unlimited spirits, but we have
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used the idea of a negative mechanism to limit our
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consciousness in order to have a physical experience, because we
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are more than this. So we're using a quote unquote
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negative mechanism for a positive reason. And that's why it's
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not just cut and dried, black and White Da him
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depends on what you do with it. How do you
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use it?
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Now you mentioned Bashard's formula. Can you there's I think
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four or five steps in that. Can you just yeah, five?
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Can you just quickly kind of go over those five steps?
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Sure? And each of these require a deeper explanation for
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people to truly understand how this works. And this is
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a toolkit. In fact, he actually refers to it as
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an instruction manual, the same way that you would get
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an instruction manual to operate a piece of machinery. He said,
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if you follow the instructions, the machine will work as
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advertised to your benefit. If you don't, maybe the machine
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will work, but maybe you'll injure yourself or something else
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will fall apart in the machine. So the five steps
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in his instruction manual or the formula are to act
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on your passion, to do it as fully as you can,
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for as long as you can, until you can do
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it no further. To act on it. And this is
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a big one for a lot of people, to act
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on it with absolutely zero assumption or a zero insistence
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on what the outcome of that action should look like
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or be. Number four, stay in a positive state no
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matter what happens, because you can get a benefit out
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of it that way. And number five, you have to
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allow yourself to really examine your belief systems to find
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out why you believe what you believe, because very often
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we just do it out of habit. And so it's
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those five things allow people to gain an insight and
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gain in a sense control over their lives when they're
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applying this very specifically and very precisely in their lives.
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When they do that, all these things start happening that
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are connected to it. Our lives become synchronistic, more synchronosity
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happens in our lives. It becomes a path of least resistance.
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It connects us to other expressions of our excitement. It
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becomes the driving engine in our lives, giving us the
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energy to move forward. It reflects to us anything out
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of alignment within our belief system so that we can
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examine it and let it go. It connects us to
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whatever form of support we need. These things happen automatically
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when you follow those five steps. It's really magical. But
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it is not just the idea of magic. It's the
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idea that this is how reality works. He's actually describing
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to us how we're creating our reality, but we don't
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know that we're doing it this way. So when we
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follow those five steps for the reasons that he explains
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why they're important, then it just opens everything up and
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you start seeing how everything is connected and how you
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can take advantage of any situation that happens in your
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life and see it from a completely different perspective. It's
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really quite astonishing.
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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and now back to the show. And it's pretty powerful.
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Steps those five steps. You can do that, which is not,
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by the way, easy all the time.
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Believe that's a belief.
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I mean, yes, I.
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Know what you mean. I know what you mean. It
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is challenging because we are so ingrained in outdated definitions. Correct,
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you're right and that. But he's also said, there's no
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such thing as a difficult situation. Only our definitions make
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it difficult. So we have to hold on to the idea.
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This is why it's so important from his perspective, to
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create new definitions, because a lot of metaphysical thought, a
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lot of spiritual thought, is structured on very outdated definitions,
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and we're not understanding we may be describing an experience,
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but we're not necessarily describing the mechanism that is causing
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the experience, even though we may think we are. So
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that difference, I mean, let this analogy works. He is
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given will say that the sun sets. We know the
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sun doesn't set. We know the Earth evolves, and that's
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why we see that experience. So describing the experience of
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a sunset doesn't describe the mechanism that causes that experience.
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And this is the vast difference. What he's saying about
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certain metaphysical concepts we have and why we think they work,
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are not why they work. And by getting caught up
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in the old definitions, we get caught up in repeating
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the same patterns, the same habits, and all this kind
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of stuff, and we can't figure out how to get
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out of it. It's the new definitions. It's seeing the
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mechanism for what it is that creates the experience, that
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frees us to see things in a different way. In
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the same way that when scientists decided, oh, it's the
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Earth that revolves around the sun, and the Sun isn't
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actually revolving around the Earth, it changed our entire reality.
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So it's the same thing metaphysically that Vishar is attempting
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to do for us is give his definitions that unlock
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us from the past and propel us toward the future
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from a completely different perspective.
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So those definitions that you're talking about that are outdated,
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those those definitions when they were created, were created for
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the time and evolution of the people at that moment
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in time, which is basically religion. A lot of ideas
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that were talked about two thousand years ago don't apply
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too much right now because in the Bible, slavery was okay,
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I mean pretty much everyone had it back then. Now
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it's frowned upon and as it should be. But that's
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an example, a very you know, a very interesting example
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of old ideas, old definitions at old just everything that
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don't apply to us today and how it needs to evolve.
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Is that a fair statement, Yes, And that's exactly what
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he's doing. So again, a deeper understanding of the metaphysical
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side of that evolution, again is what allows us to
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understand how reality works more deeply and allows us to
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sort of open our eyes and say, oh, you know,
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I am free to do this, I am free to
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see things in a different way. I am free to
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explore something I never thought I could explore because I
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didn't understand how it actually worked. So now we can
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do that if we understand the information that he's sharing
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with us.
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And again, I mean, I've brought this movie up so
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many times on the show, and I'll continue to bring
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it up because it is just such a deep, onion
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layered film, which is the Matrix. You're a sci fi guy,
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I'm a sci fi guy. We'd love that kind of stuff.
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But the more you look at the first Matrix, the
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more you understand that journey. As as Neo is starting
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to realize his true nature, he's starting to understand how
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to bend reality in the matrix, which is an analogy
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for our illusion if you will or maya if you will,
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the reality we're in, he's able to start bending it.
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So obviously that's a fantastical way of looking upon it.
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We're not going to maybe we could dotch bullets, I'm
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not sure, but being able to move our reality in
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a different way, and I've experienced very, very heavily that
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ability to be able to shift reality in the directions
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I wanted to go. And it start off with some
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small little things. But as you get older and you
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start practicing it more, you start going no, I think,
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go here there.
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And it's like anything you practice and you get better
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at it and your reality starts reflecting that ability. So yeah,
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I and I'm seeing insane synchronicities in my life that
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are just you know, crazy stuff, but it's becoming the normal.
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You know, things just happen, Things just show up when
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they need to precisely perfectly, and it's like, okay, you
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know that that tells me I'm aligned with myself and
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that I'm applying these things in the way that actually
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makes me able to speer my life in a better direction.
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So yeah, there are actual physical results to this.
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Yes, it's pretty it's and I know a lot of
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people talk about the law of attraction and now the
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whole secret thing, and there is a I think that
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was just such a top layer of that concept, but
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it did introduce it to a mass amount of people.
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Yes, And actually Bashar relatively recently talked about how there's
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a little bit of a misunderstanding with the law of attraction.
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It is what you put out is what you get back.
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But I, at least as far as I was exposed
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to it, and it's not wrong. The idea that you
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have to be of a certain frequency to attract certain
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things is correct. I think where he's saying we have
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a little bit of a misunderstanding is we think we
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have to learn that frequency. What he's saying is it's
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just the opposite. We are that frequency. That's our natural state.
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It's our core vibration, and our core vibration is designed
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to attractt everything we need in life. So it's not
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about having to learn that frequency. It's about getting out
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of its way. It's about not having beliefs that block
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that frequency. So it's more a matter of getting things
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that aren't relevant for us out of the way than
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it is having to learn how to give off that
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frequency that's our natural frequency.
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It's kind of like taking layers off of clothes. Little
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like you're stacked on with tons and tons of coats
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and jackets and sweaters, and slowly but surely you're pulling
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it away to get to the true essence of who
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you are without all that crap on you.
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Exactly, if you want the sun to reach your skin,
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you've got to take all those clothes.
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Off, right, and little by little but we walk around
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many with tons and tons of stuff on top of you.
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Right, So when you know, when people go around thinking, Okay,
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I've got to learn this frequency, it's kind of like
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they don't really realize that they're wearing all these clothes,
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you know. It's like they're trying to do something that
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they're already doing but don't know they're doing, and it
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causes a lot of diffusion. So if they realize that
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that frequency is really who we are and we just
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have to strip off all this other stuff that's not
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who we are, then it's an easier idea. It's something
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that we can start looking specifically at, well, what is
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in the way of that frequency, rather than what do
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I do to learn that frequency? You know, because that
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can be kind of very nebulous, what do I do?
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You know? But it's like, oh, I can find this
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negative belief, I can find this fear based belief within me,
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and I can let it go, and that clears the
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way for that frequency to attract what you're named because
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it's already operating like a whitehouse.
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And that's the thing. It's just knowledge, it's just information
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that we need to If you don't know what you're
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looking for. So that's the insanity of what we were
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talking about, which is like, I need to find how
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to run faster, learn how to run faster with all
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these coats on. I'm like, you could just take off
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the coats, but you don't know that you're wearing the
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coats exactly.
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And that's that, to me, is the essential benefit of
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Bishard's information. He's exactly telling you what to look for
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and how to let it go, how to take that
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code off. Specifically mechanically speaking, it's just like, this is
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an instant manual. Unbutton the button, unbutton the button, unbutton
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the button, take it off. He's literally guiding us that specifically.
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Well, it's Plato's allegory of the cave. I mean, it's
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essentially it. We're trying to let everybody know there's something outside.
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It's not going to be afraid it, don't be afraid.
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I know there's a lot of light outside, but go
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outside is much better than this shadow show on the
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walls that we've been thinking is real exactly.
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But see, here's the thing he talks about, you know,
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the structure of beliefs, positive negative beliefs, because physical reality
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isn't real beliefs are what make it seem real because
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they reinforce themselves with emotions and thoughts and behaviors that
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reinforce the idea that what the belief is telling us
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is a fact. But when you understand the belief is
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just a belief, then you can deconstruct it and let
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it go. But beliefs are designed to perpetuate themselves because
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they have to, or we wouldn't have a physical experience
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because physical reality isn't real. So a positive belief, we
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don't care if it reinforces itself because we like what
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it's telling us about ourselves. But the negative beliefs have.
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To use we'll be right back after a word from
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our sponsor and now back to the show, sort.
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Of negative mechanisms to reinforce themselves. They're not doing it maliciously,
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it's just the way they're designed to perpetuate a physical experience.
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So many times a negative belief will will have its
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own set of tools, so to speak, to prevent you
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from finding it, so it'll make you afraid to look,
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which you have to right exactly, so you have to
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be aware that that is not a fact, that something
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worse will happen if you go looking for the negative belief.
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It's just what the negative belief is telling you in
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order to perpetuate itself so that you can keep having
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a physical experience. Once you understand that, you have a
699
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skeleton key to unlock it, because now you go, oh,
700
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it's not a fact. This is just a story it's
701
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telling me about myself. I don't have to buy into
702
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this story. I can replace it with a different belief
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and have a different story experience.
704
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And the term story, you know, I've said that so
705
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many times, is the story that you tell yourself, is
706
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the story you live. So if you believe that you
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are you know, loved, and are worthy of happiness and
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worthy of you finding your dream and finding your mission
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in life, and if you're all, that's all a story.
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Where earlier in my life, I'm sure you as well,
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before you started going down this path, you know, you
712
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were probably I mean I was. I was angry. I
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was angry, I mean angry at at why I was
714
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working with you know, twenty three year old filmmakers who
715
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got three million dollars for their future. I'm like, who
716
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the hell gave you this money?
717
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.840
Yeah? Exactly, Angry for a lot of reasons. You don't
718
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even know why you're angry.
719
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You know, I was, I was so, I was so.
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I mean, I can't explain to you how angry I
721
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was as a young man for no reason, because I
722
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would be. I lived well, I had a family who
723
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loved me, I had food over my had I had
724
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no major traumas that I can think of, at least
725
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that were I was pretty good. Looking back, it was
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me I would have slapped.
727
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Myself, yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, wake up. But yeah, you know,
728
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but we see, we pick up a lot of stuff,
729
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you know, body language, telepathically, all this stuff, growing up
730
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in a society that is angry at not realizing its
731
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full potential. See deep down, we know, you know, we
732
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know that we're off base in a lot of ways.
733
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And I think that because we haven't had the tools
734
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to deal with that specifically, at least not you know,
735
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for the mass consensus. You know, we get angry at ourselves,
736
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and we get angry at life, and we get angry
737
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why isn't it the way it wasn't spirit? And you know,
738
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why can't we do this? And why can't we do that?
739
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We forget that we are here for a reason to
740
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learn something until we mature enough to start seeing that idea.
741
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So yeah, we kind of come in picking up all
742
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sorts of anger from the society that's been experiencing negative
743
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things for thousands of years. And even, like you said,
744
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when we have a great benefit in our lives, or
745
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several benefits in our lives, we tend to ignore that
746
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and overlook it because we're just so caught up in
747
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this emotional turmoil that is human society on earth and
748
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.400
has been for thousands of years with few exceptions, you know,
749
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but all the great teachers that have come along, you
750
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know whatever, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, whatever, they've all been saying
751
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the same thing. And it's not like, really follow me.
752
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.719
It's be like me. That's what it means. Sure, absolutely right.
753
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Not one of them is like you must bow down,
754
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you must get you must worshiped. None of them said that.
755
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No, When you know, when Jesus says I am the way,
756
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he means, be this way and everything will pull together,
757
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he's not. It's not I'm the only one. He even said,
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you know, you are gods and you will do greater
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things than I have done. So you know, people aren't
760
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really listening to that. Because they're so used to feeling
761
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worthless and powerless that all they can do is latch
762
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onto someone who isn't and follow them. But then a
763
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whole bunch of misinterpretations happen because they think that person
764
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has all the power and they have none. All these
765
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teachers have been trying to tell us we have all
766
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the power and we are we are internally the kingdom
767
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of God. You know, it's just people aren't really.
768
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You know, right, as Yogunanda said, Christ was crucified for
769
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one day and his teaching is crucified for two thousand
770
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years black which is it's perfect, a perfect, perfect saying
771
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which I glanted to ask you because you've met you
772
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brought them up, these kind of masters, these kind of
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ascended masters, as in Eastern Philosophy's call days ascended masters.
774
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What is Bouchard's feeling about those those teachers, those masters,
775
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over the course of thousands of years who've come, and
776
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there's been many of them. It's not Jesus just happens
777
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to have a really good pr person. So does Buddha.
778
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Exactly well, he says exactly what I said. It's like,
779
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you know, our collective consciousness gives us these opportunities through
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these beings on a regular basis every now and then
781
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for every culture, and it's our opportunity to really open
782
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up and pay attention to what they're telling us instead
783
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of falling back into the old definitions. I am powerless,
784
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you are all powerful. I have to give you my fealty,
785
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and I'm worthless and nothing without you. We have to
786
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stop lit listening to that story, because that's not the
787
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story that these ascended masters are telling us.
788
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.800
Yeah, exactly. Now, I wanted to ask you what the
789
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Shards definition of a soul is.
790
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A soul is an expression of your consciousness on a
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certain level that explores expanding itself in a specific number
792
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of ways. Because there are higher levels to that, some
793
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of which have been referred to in literature as over souls.
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Of course, you know source all that is, God and
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everything in between. But a soul is an individuated reflection
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of all that is. In the same way, let's say
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you're standing in the center of a hall of mirrors
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and you see a reflection. That one reflection is a
799
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unique reflection from a unique angle, unique perspective to him,
800
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that's a soul. But because everything is made of consciousness,
801
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it's also conscious. So each individual soul is a unique
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reflection of God, Goddess, all that is that has its
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own unique ability to understand itself, to know itself from
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that unique perspective, thus adding to the overall experience of
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all that is of itself. So the soul, the individual soul,
806
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can have individual experiences rather than collective ones. It's designed
807
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for the purpose of being able to sort of split
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itself into non physical and physical consciousness, to have a
809
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physical reality experience. I mean, from Bashark's perspective, because physical
810
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reality is an illusion. He's saying, your natural state is spirit.
811
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You are there now, you're in spirit. You're kind of
812
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just pretending that you're not. You're dreaming that you're not
813
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in spirit. A part of you is dreaming that it's not,
814
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but most of you is in spirit. That's your natural state.
815
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And I would say, you know, in a sense, that's
816
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your individual soul. Does that explain it enough? Yeah?
817
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I mean, I mean it's a fairly large question. So
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I think you did fine. You know, it's like, what's
819
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the meaning of life? Like, I mean, it's not a
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one answer, one sentence answer, but no, that's a really
821
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good I just wanted to get Bschard's perspective on that
822
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concept of a soul because it's so it's been defined
823
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so many different ways, again depending on societal and religious
824
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and things.
825
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And none of them in a sense are wrong definitions.
826
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They're just different perspectives of that different.
827
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They're different parts of the elephant in the room.
828
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Yeah, you know, it's kind of like it goes back
829
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to what we're saying about, you know, ascended masters and things,
830
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where you know, the way we look at it is,
831
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:55.440
you know, you have all of these antagonistic excluding kinds
832
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of things where you know, one group is saying, hey,
833
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Jesus is God, and another group is saying no, Christna
834
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is God. And another group is saying Jehovah is God,
835
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and another people saying Allah is God. But it's not
836
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that Jesus is God, Christiana is God, Allah is God,
837
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Jehovah's God. It's that God is Jesus, God is Allah,
838
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God is Jehovah, God is Christian. God is anything and
839
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everything and all of us and all that is. We're
840
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made of it. We're made of God. There is nothing
841
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outside of it. From Bisharkh's perspective, so it's it's we're
842
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reversing the idea back to understanding that none of the
843
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religions in a sense are wrong. It's just that they're
844
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misunderstanding that there's a bigger picture to the idea and
845
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they have a piece of it. They have a reflection
846
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of the whole, not the whole from some or their
847
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culture for their perspective.
848
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Right, And again it's just tribal, it's it's societal. I mean,
849
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depending on where you wherever you were born, is the
850
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.239
perspective of morals you're going to get right exactly.
851
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So in a sense, it's just people have to understand
852
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that all of those things are true and not just
853
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.719
all I have the right one and you don't, and
854
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.199
you're going to hell because you don't. You know, all
855
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of that in a sense is true. There are misinterpretations
856
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.679
in it, but the thing of it is is it's
857
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.320
all equal because it doesn't matter what path you take.
858
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It all leads to the same understanding.
859
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We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
860
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and now back to the show. So you bring up
861
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a good point on something that there's a lot of
862
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stuff going on in the world right now, and there's
863
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:48.039
a lot of quote unquote bad stuff happening or things
864
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like that negatively, a lot of yet negative things happening.
865
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Why do and this is a question I know a
866
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lot of people have. This is why I'm asking it.
867
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Why does God allow people like putin?
868
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Yeah, I think that's the wrong I think that's the
869
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wrong question because God, God, being everything, doesn't need to allow.
870
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God just is it just is. We are making the choices.
871
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We have the freedom to choose. That's our greatest power.
872
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We can be negative, we can be positive. You have
873
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to realize that when you go to a dictionary and
874
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look up the word unconditional, it means there are no conditions.
875
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If we say, oh, God is unconditional love, we have
876
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to really stress the word unconditional. It doesn't matter because
877
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everything is God. So yes, there are negative expressions of it,
878
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there are positive expressions of it, but it's in our hands.
879
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That's why we're individuated souls. We get to decide how
880
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to express the idea. It's not that God willed it
881
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or allows it. It just is part of what God is,
882
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and we get to decide. The control is in our
883
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hands about how we want to express the part of
884
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God we are. So we can't blame God for not
885
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stepping in and intervening. Because it's an unconditional experience to exist,
886
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we get to decide what that existence is. Like.
887
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It's just like it's just like at the beginning of
888
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a football game. One one team has got on their side,
889
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the other team has got on their side. I mean,
890
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they're all both praying to like I need to win,
891
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I need to I love the other person, but I
892
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want to destroy them today. Can you help me? Jesus?
893
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Like I always found that fascinating.
894
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Yeah, And likewise, it's like, Okay, you know some people
895
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when good things happen, you know, they go praise Jesus.
896
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Why don't they say praise Jesus when things don't go
897
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.559
their way? Isn't that also something that could serve them?
898
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.400
You know? But again it's that tribal, limited focused kind
899
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of idea that it's you know, it's all about me,
900
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and it's all about my connection and no one else's
901
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.159
and it's just you know, it's everything, it's everything, and
902
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.800
we get to decide what it is. So that's what
903
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.880
God is all about, is we get to decide. That's
904
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what it means to have free will. Yes, we set
905
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up our own destinies. But within that we have our
906
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.639
own free will too, so it's up to us.
907
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.159
Now, a question I have for you is do we
908
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have spiritual guidance through our lives? Do we have beings that,
909
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whether it be a sended master, spirit, guides, angels, whatever
910
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on the other side, who are guiding us through our
911
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.440
our blueprint of our life though as we have set
912
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it out before, our life plan to teach us the
913
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lessons that we need to learn.
914
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Yes, they help, they guide, but they don't do it
915
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for us corre, because it's up to us. But they
916
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do suggest they do God. I mean in a sense
917
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that question is almost like saying, well, do we have
918
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friends in life? Do we have family? Sure? Well, why
919
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is spirit any different? We have friends, we have family there,
920
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we have people that we may have interacted with in
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various ways. We may have people that are just simply
922
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doing it because that's what they've chosen to do. So, yeah,
923
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we have guides, We have help. We always have help.
924
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And you know, Bashar has often said, which as a
925
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phrase I really like, is that you know you don't
926
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have to ask for more help. He said, You're being
927
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given all the help you can possibly be given what
928
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.440
you need to do is awaken and pay attention to
929
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the help you're already getting. You just have to be
930
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more aware of it. That's what praying is for, and
931
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stuff like that, is just making yourself more grateful for
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what you're already receiving because you're giving. You're being given
933
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everything you can possibly be given. Nothing is being withheld
934
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.679
from you. It's wakening to the fact that you are
935
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.320
in a state of appreciation and gratitude for what's already
936
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.119
helping you, and then you can start perceiving it more
937
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.559
clearly by being in that state again, what you put
938
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:41.519
out is what you get back.
939
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.360
Very true, very very true. You know, another another question
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I have for you, and I'd love to hear Bashard's
941
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point of view in this, you know, and please tell me.
942
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.320
I don't want to answer it, but really, but what
943
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:00.320
part does religion have in our evolution as a as
944
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.760
a society throughout history, not just now?
945
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.000
Well, it depends on the person and what they get
946
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.599
out of it, really, I mean, okay, anything in physical
947
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.920
reality he calls a permission slip. In other words, it's
948
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.800
some technique, some tool, some objects, some ritual, some situation
949
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.519
you believe you need to give yourself permission to be
950
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.719
more of who you are. If religion is the way
951
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.280
that works for you, that's the way that works for you. Now.
952
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:33.280
I know, in general, religion generally can be disempowering in
953
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.519
the sense of, well, you need me to tell you
954
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.480
how to relate to God and you don't have that
955
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.159
ability yourself, well, which I think is nonsense. But again,
956
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.079
if it's a technique, a tool, a path that works
957
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.559
for you to allow you to know more who you are,
958
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.400
to be a more positive, creative person, go with it
959
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.199
all day long. It's fine, it doesn't matter. But if
960
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.559
you're using it in the negative way to segregate, to separate,
961
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.639
to look down upon on, to feel better than you know,
962
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.760
than others, and stuff like that, I think it's lost
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00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.480
its meaning and it's simply taking the form of the
964
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.519
fear based beliefs that are in the person that is
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00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:13.679
practicing that religion.
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And to piggyback on that, what is Bischard's point of
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00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:24.559
view on reincarnation and that idea? Because there are billions
968
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of people.
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00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:29.480
Don't you think I know? I know it? Okay, again,
970
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:33.239
now we're getting into you know, real deep metaphysics here.
971
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.960
Reincarnation to him is real as an experience, it's not
972
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.800
an accurate description of the mechanism. In other words, again,
973
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:46.119
everything exists at once. Time is an illusion. So if
974
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.760
everyone and everything exists at the same time and it's
975
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.320
only separated by this illusion of time, then to him,
976
00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:01.000
the experience of reincarnation is created like this, what we
977
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.199
call the past is something that exists right now. What
978
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:07.239
we call the future is something that exists right now.
979
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:12.280
We make an energetic connection to someone that exists right
980
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.239
now in what we call the past as a label,
981
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:21.039
because we need to download experience and information from them
982
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.920
that will help us in this life. In this theme
983
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.800
that we're exploring, we because we're stuck in linear time,
984
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:33.000
so to speak, stuck, we're focused, we'd be a better word.
985
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.119
Because we're focused in linear time. We treat that energetic
986
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connection and download of information as a memory. I used
987
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:45.159
to be that person. No, that person is that person.
988
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.400
But you're making a connection to that person and downloading
989
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.199
information and interpreting it as a memory so that it
990
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.239
seems as if you are reincarnated as that person. So
991
00:56:56.360 --> 00:57:01.719
you can have the illusional experience of reincarnate. You can
992
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.599
create the feeling that I've lived before and I will
993
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.760
live again as another person. But since all people exist
994
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.800
at the same time, it's really functioning more like a
995
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:18.159
dynamically interactive internet, where you're exchanging information constantly in the
996
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.880
present to all these other beings. But linearly looking at
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00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.599
it as if while I was this person now and
998
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.280
this person, I'll be that person. So you're using linear
999
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.960
time to create the experience of reincarnation. But all of
1000
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.559
this is happening at the same time. It's multiple simultaneous
1001
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.599
incarnations on a higher level, what you might want to
1002
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.559
call the oversoul. We might all be extensions of the
1003
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:46.599
same higher oversoul. And from that level you can say, well,
1004
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.159
that's my life and my life, and that's my life
1005
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.800
and that's my life, but only as the higher level,
1006
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:56.760
not as the individuated person. Does that make sense?
1007
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.519
It does. We're definitely getting into the weeds, deep into
1008
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.239
the weeds here.
1009
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.920
This is why Bashar preps us over years to understand
1010
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.880
things like parallel realities. Time is an illusion. He really
1011
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.079
can explain the whole mechanism of how this functions. And
1012
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.159
again that's one of the things of the difference between
1013
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.800
the definition of an experience and the definition of a
1014
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.079
mechanism that's making the experience happen.
1015
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.960
And I think you're right when when you're saying the
1016
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.440
Bashar is prepping you these concepts. Even in my own life,
1017
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:32.039
things that I hold as truths now, I thought was
1018
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:38.000
crazy when I was younger, because I couldn't comprehend these Yeah, yeah,
1019
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.360
how is that possible? How could I ever do this
1020
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.599
in my life? How could I ever do that in
1021
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.719
my life? These are beliefs that you slowly but once
1022
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.440
the seed is dropped, right, it does grow. Sometimes the
1023
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.119
soil is just a fertile.
1024
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.400
True not being water enough, and it's a barren.
1025
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.960
But other times you do you know now and I
1026
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:03.920
and again it's only as you get older you look
1027
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.119
back and you go, oh, I was being prepped for.
1028
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.960
I read this book that threw these ideas into my
1029
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.639
head that I never thought of before.
1030
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:14.920
Right, it's all hours. Although now there are new generations
1031
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.480
coming up that understand these things more quickly, because I
1032
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.480
think they forget less of who they are. They're not
1033
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.519
taught to forget a little and they are so you know.
1034
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:27.480
And that's another thing that's happening in with Bshard's information too,
1035
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.559
is you know, I've now run into, you know, ten
1036
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.360
year old kids that they can explain exactly what he's saying.
1037
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.480
They get it. They just get it. Oh, it's exactly
1038
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.760
makes sense to them, you know.
1039
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.159
Yeah, I mean, I mean I have kids as well,
1040
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:41.960
and you could just see them, like, my god, they're
1041
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:46.480
so much better prepared for life than I was at
1042
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.760
that age. We'll be right back after a word from
1043
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:58.880
our sponsor and now back to the show. But at
1044
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.199
that but my parents, parents were just didn't have the information.
1045
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.760
The tool sets weren't there in the in the world
1046
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.440
at that time, and the consciousness of the of society
1047
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.599
wasn't there. I mean, and I always use the concept
1048
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.079
of like meditation, like in the seventies you were meditating,
1049
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.360
you were crazy, you were nuts.
1050
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.000
And talk about yeah crazy. And channeling in the beginning
1051
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.599
was like what the hell are you talking about?
1052
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:26.440
I can only imagine forty years ago. Darryl like, you're like,
1053
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:28.719
so I'm a channel. I'm sorry, what do you want
1054
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.960
to change the channel? No, no, you're I'm a channel.
1055
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:32.719
I talked to somebody else and they come through me
1056
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.320
and they're like, sir, this right, this way to the way.
1057
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:37.719
Just put this white coat on. I know, this leaves
1058
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.480
are a little bit longer, just put them on.
1059
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:42.519
Right this way.
1060
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.519
But no, but now, But now the concept of channeling
1061
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.079
is not only more broadly accepted, it's still not widely accepted,
1062
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.480
but broadly accepted. But it's in the it's in the
1063
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.360
vernacular of society. People are like, oh, I was channeling,
1064
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.760
I was channeling this great person to do this or
1065
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.840
so these But these ideas weren't around forty years ago.
1066
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:09.039
So you can see ideas changing without question.
1067
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.039
Right, because definitions change, so you know.
1068
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.000
It's it's fantasty. So one question, another question I have
1069
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:19.920
for you about Bishar. What does he see in the
1070
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.840
coming years for humanity? Is he having he is he
1071
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.960
seeing anything that is he is? He is a positive
1072
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.599
or a negative scenario moment for.
1073
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.480
Again, remember back to what we were saying about, you
1074
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.039
never change the world you're on. You change yourself and
1075
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.400
you go to a version of earth, You shift to
1076
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.880
a version of Earth that is already more reflective. So
1077
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.719
it depends on each individual as to what they will
1078
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:46.159
experience in the future. He's very loath to make prediction.
1079
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.360
The only the few rare occasions he's made predictions. He's saying, look,
1080
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.199
there's no such thing as a prediction of the future.
1081
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.639
He's saying. What a person is doing when they predict
1082
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.039
is they're sensing the energy that exists in present and
1083
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.559
if that energy has a lot of momentum behind it
1084
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.360
and it's unlikely to change, there's a high degree of
1085
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.159
probability it will manifest. However, you have to realize that
1086
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.119
once a prediction is made, it changes the energy because
1087
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.679
now you know about it, and if you don't prefer
1088
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.079
what it's telling you is inevitable, you can actually change that.
1089
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:23.760
So that's why the only few times he's ever made predictions,
1090
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:27.840
he's saying, it's unlikely this momentum is going to change. Therefore,
1091
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.719
I will tell you that this is the highest probability.
1092
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:36.039
I remember in nineteen ninety eight, it's on record in
1093
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.000
a recording he said before the end of two thousand
1094
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.320
and one, there will be a terrorist attack in New York.
1095
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:45.000
He said, this is unlikely to change, and obviously we
1096
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.920
had nine to eleven. So there are times when he
1097
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:52.599
can pick up on the highest probability and say this
1098
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.719
is what the highest probability is, and it's unlikely to change,
1099
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.559
which is the only reason I'm telling you about it.
1100
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.079
But other than that, he doesn't usually want to make predictions,
1101
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.559
especially because again, as I just said, it's up to
1102
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.159
each individual as to what they're really going to experience
1103
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.360
in the future if they change themselves.
1104
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:13.079
And it's when you say that everyone experiences or shifts
1105
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:18.400
into another earth, that is one that they experience, regardless
1106
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:21.320
of whether you believe in parallel earth or any and
1107
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:25.960
that stuff. That's fine. But in the Great Depression, some
1108
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:30.159
people were on the street. Other people's made fortunes. During
1109
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.800
two thousand and eight, some people coasted through, other people
1110
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.920
lost everything. Right now, there's people living very different lives.
1111
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.559
People in the Ukraine are living very different lives that
1112
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:45.199
we're living here. There's different experiences at the same moment
1113
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.639
in time all the time. Everywhere you go, there's always
1114
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:52.159
a different But if we're experiencing the same event, certain
1115
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.599
people handle it differently or experience it differently than others.
1116
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:57.679
And it's throughout history that's been the case.
1117
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.039
Yes, And the idea again is you know, to really
1118
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.400
take this another step further. We're shifting all the time.
1119
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.760
We're shifting right now, We're shifting billions of times per
1120
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:11.719
second into different parallel versions of Earth. It's just that
1121
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.760
we do it so smoothly we don't realize we're shifting.
1122
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:19.599
So the idea is, because physical reality is an illusion,
1123
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:25.480
the very concept of movement actually entails shifting through different
1124
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.159
parallel realities in much the same way that an animated
1125
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.239
film shifts through different frames to create the illusion of
1126
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:37.679
movement on the screen. So even doing this, according to Bishar,
1127
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:42.159
entails having shifted literally through billions of different parallel realities.
1128
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.039
Because this is a reality. This is a reality, This
1129
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.239
is a reality. This is a reality again, just like
1130
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:50.519
frames on a film strip. And he's saying, it's just
1131
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.360
happening so fast you don't realize it's happening. You're not
1132
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.760
seeing the flicker going from one frame to another.
1133
01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.559
Well, I've never heard it explain like that before, but I,
1134
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.119
as a don't maker, I completely understand what you're saying now,
1135
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:07.119
because every frame is a different expression of that scene,
1136
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.360
and only when they're played back to back or the
1137
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:14.320
shift is when you get the illusion of movement. Movies
1138
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.239
video is an illusion of they're just still frames played
1139
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:20.199
back at a certain frame.
1140
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:25.119
Rate, saying physical reality is actually structured that way. That's
1141
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:28.360
why there are parallel realities because you have an infinite
1142
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.079
number of frames and you can go in any direction.
1143
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.199
So it's a batter of your frequency choosing which frames
1144
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:39.400
you're experiencing and which frames you're agreeing to experience similar
1145
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.599
to someone else, which allows us to have this conversation.
1146
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.960
We are both agreeing that we will shift through frames
1147
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.159
that allow this conversation to exist, but we're still shifting
1148
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.519
through frames, and my reality shift is not your reality shift.
1149
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.239
Your reality shift is a different reality. But we're agreeing
1150
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.599
to shift through frames that make it appear as if
1151
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:01.840
we're sharing the same reality, which we're not.
1152
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.760
My head's my head's about to mushroom cloud. That's no,
1153
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.719
it's great, it's it's amazing. Darryl, thank you so much.
1154
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.880
I'm gonna ask you last few questions I asked all
1155
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.480
of my guests. You were going to say something go ahead, no, no, no,
1156
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:21.079
go ahead. What is your definition of a good life.
1157
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.800
Being true to yourself, being who you really are?
1158
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.960
How do you define God all.
1159
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.719
That is everything, nothing is outside of it?
1160
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.440
And what is the ultimate purpose of life.
1161
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.639
Being yourself and allowing yourself to add to the expansion
1162
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.760
of existence? I mean, it's again, goes back to who
1163
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:47.599
are you really as a reflection of all that is?
1164
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.960
What is it that makes you you? And how much
1165
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:55.800
can you really be that you? Can you see through
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the illusion? Can you learn to grow? Can you learn
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who you are more deeply? Can you be more of yourself?
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Can you act on the things that are truly you?
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Which is what passion is all about. Passion is an
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indication of your true life, your true vibration. So it's
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being you, it's knowing yourself and being willing to act
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on that.
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And dere Where can people find out more about you
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the work you're doing with Bishar, your books, your courses,
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your videos, all that kind of stuff.
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They can go to two different websites. They can go
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to Bishar dot org, b A s h A r
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dot org or they can go to darryl Anca dot
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com b A R R Y l A n k
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A dot com to find out what's going on with us.
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Yeah, and you have a fantastic YouTube channel. You put
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out videos all the time with Bishar. Is that correct?
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All sorts of ways to you know, hear what he
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has to say. There's there's literally hundreds of recordings of
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events that Bshar has done, and you know people are
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welcome to explore and decide for themselves whether it's something
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that they are interested in.
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There it has been a pleasure my friend. Talking to
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is always I can talk to you for days, so
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please come back again. Absolutely, I love it, I love talking.
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I love talking to you, my friend, and I again
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thank you for not only coming back, but also for
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all the amazing work you've been doing over these four decades,
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which is impossible because you look twenty five, so I
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don't understand.
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Daney has been very, very good to be my friend.
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Appreciate you. Thank you so much.
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Thanks Alex, take care.
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Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll
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