Simon Peter: Why Jesus Called Him a Rock (John 1:42) | G. Campbell Morgan Sermon Breakdown | Straight Bible

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For Peter to be able to stay close to me tonight,
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he's going to have to deny me. Of all the
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apostles of our Lord, none seems to be better known
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than Simon Peter. When the Lord told him that he
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should be called rock or stone, it sounded incredible. He
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went over the side of the boat to walk to
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him on the water.
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Peter could have physically tried to stop Jesus.
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Get thee behind me, Satan. You are an offense unto me.
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Peter will probably explode into a million pieces before he's
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able to do anything.
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Verily, verily, I say unto thee, the cock shall not
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crow till you have denied me thrice. The look broke
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his heart and he went out into the night weeping bitterly.
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I told you that you should be rocked and you're
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going to be. But I know someone who does believe
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in you. And he believes in you because he is
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able to make you exactly what you are not. A
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process is going to have to happen for you to
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become this thing that people can depend on, people can
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count on, people can build on. I don't know why
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he loves the intro, but he's all about having an intro.
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He's a showman.
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You think that's what it is? Yeah. It makes it
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very theatrical. He's like, yeah, this is a big thing,
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a big production.
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Kind of is.
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Whereas when it's me and you, it's like, yeah, let's
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just go.
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Let's just go.
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How you been? Because I feel like I don't even
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see you anymore. What do you mean? No, I just
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feel like you're in this whole other world now.
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Oh, well, you've got rose-colored glasses on. I'm in the
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real world. We're moving. We're shaking.
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You are moving and shaking, dude. You've got a lot
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of stuff happening.
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I'm doing good.
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I'm excited.
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We have a new website.
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We have a new sub stack. We have new merch.
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Do you have tons of stuff going?
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I'm burning it at both ends, the candle at both ends.
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Is it okay, everything we're doing? I just show up
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and do the content. You're doing all this stuff, big
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high-level moves.
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I think less of you, but it's okay. That's fair.
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I was wondering that.
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No, I'm excited to get into this episode today specifically
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because Peter is one of the most fascinating characters in
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the Bible.
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Yeah, you really are. No, he really is.
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He's kind of like a.
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He has flaws, major flaws.
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Did you read this one yet?
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I read briefly through it. I didn't read the whole thing,
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but I mean, obviously we've read about Peter. We know
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about Peter. He's got major flaws, but he's the disciple
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that kind of was at the top of the other
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disciples when Jesus was around.
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What does that mean?
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He seemed like the guy that was the leader, that
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was stepping forward. When Jesus asked questions, he's the guy
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that was brave enough to answer. And he's the guy
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that's rewarded. He's the guy that Seems like the other
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ones kind of defer to.
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There is a question.
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Didn't even Paul defer to him at some point? This
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is afterward.
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Paul rebukes him.
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No, no. They were asking about what we should do
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with the Gentiles being circumcised.
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That's interesting because James has the final word on that,
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not Peter. Because it's this weird thing where they say.
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But Peter weighs in.
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Sure.
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Yeah. So like he's important, but yeah, go ahead.
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Him, him speaking though, the most, like you're saying, it
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is intriguing because it brings up this question. Like, was
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he just the spokesman for the group? Like did the
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group kind of get together and then he was the
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spokesman or was it everything that was happening? Like he
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was just blurting out like his position.
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When I read it, it seems like the guy, like
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David would be this sort of guy where the teacher
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who knows everything in this case is saying a thing.
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And then he's asking a question and everyone else goes,
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I got an answer, but I'm not picking my hand
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up because if I'm wrong. But Peter was like, yeah,
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I'll say it. And sometimes Jesus was like, that's dope
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and you're cool. And sometimes Jesus was like, hey, get
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behind me. But yeah, I like him because he's that character.
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He's out there.
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Okay, so just jump in at any time. I like
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it when you're engaged in these. I don't like it
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when you're like over there.
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No, my mind's elsewhere. My mind is thinking about production.
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Okay, so lock into this, dude. Okay, no, no.
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You ready? See, that was a joke. You got to
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lock in.
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Same.
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Let's start.
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Okay. Of all the apostles of our Lord, none seems
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to be better known than Simon Peter. He is conspicuous
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in the New Testament and the gospel narratives and in
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the first part of the Acts of the Apostles. He
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has been prominent in church history and remains today among
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the most fascinating of the band of men which surrounded
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the Lord in the days of his earthly ministry. This
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familiarity is both a hindrance and a help. It is
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a help because it obviates anything in the nature of
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detailed references. It is a hindrance in that it may
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lead us to be more occupied with the man than
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with our Lord's method of dealing with him. Which is
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the context of this whole book, right? It's like, how
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does Jesus deal with these individuals? It's a complex thing
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he's saying. He's saying like, all the stories that we
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have of Peter can be a hindrance to us because
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we're just like looking at Peter as opposed to looking
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at how Jesus deals with Peter. Because that's really what
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we want to see is how does Jesus deal with Peter?
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Right, right. So it's not, I guess if you're looking
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at Peter, then that leaves some weird room for like
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the veneration of Peter after.
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Sure, sure. Or many things saying like, it's okay that
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I did this. After all, Peter did it. Whereas the
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Bible says looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of
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our faith. Like that's what's weird when like dudes in
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high up positions have some kind of morality issue, you know,
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stepping out on their wife or whatever. And then they say, well,
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you know, David did it. It's like, that's not what
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the scripture says though. It says looking unto Jesus, the
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author and finisher of our faith. So when we get
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to looking too much at the person, as opposed to
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how Jesus dealt with that person, it can get a
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little wonky.
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Well, yeah. I mean, you teach your kids that, right?
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Your kids come back to you and they go, oh, well,
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so-and-so in third grade said and did this. So therefore
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it's okay that I did. And I'm like, you're not,
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don't look to that person. I tell, I'll tell them
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to look to me because looking up, look to Jesus
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is a little abstract for their age, but I'm like,
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But like, I'm not doing that. You know what I mean?
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And then eventually, obviously, yes, we have to look to
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look to Jesus, look to think about like the godly
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order of things. You wouldn't do that. But I'm trying
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to represent that in their life because, you know, I
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like that. Yeah, yeah.
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I respect that.
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OK, I like that idea.
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No, no, no.
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Don't get don't do that. Don't get lost in the chat.
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I'm not. We need first to remind ourselves that his
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name was not Peter originally, but Simon. I never come
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to the study of this man without being reminded of
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something which Henry Drummond said concerning D.L.
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Moody.
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So he's quoting Henry Drummond speaking about D.L.
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Moody.
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All the OGs, there was a lot of respect flying
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around between them.
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Yeah, there's a community, huh?
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Yeah. Namely, that he was the greatest human that he
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had ever met. So Drummond says of D.L. Moody that
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he was the greatest human that he had ever met.
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This characterization seems to me to apply to Peter. Drummond
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did not suggest that in intellectual capacity or attainment, Moody
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was the greatest man he had met, but rather to
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the fact of his essential greatness of human nature. This
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is clearly evident of Simon as we study him carefully.
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I should describe him as an elemental man. All the
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essential elements that go to the making of human personality
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were found in him. This is going to get interesting
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because we talk a lot about what we do as
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Christians and what we see in Jesus is seeing people
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at their full potential.
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Right, right.
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So that's kind of what he's hinting at here. All
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the essential elements that go to the making of human
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personality were found in him. We may fall back upon
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an old definition of personality, that namely of Kant. K-A-N-T,
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that's a famous guy from history. Kant. I don't know.
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Is it? Well, who is he?
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What's his first name?
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I think it's William Kant. Yeah.
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What was his thing?
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I don't remember. I don't know.
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I feel like that's something that if you go to school,
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you'd know.
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Who that is. Immanuel Kant, he's a German philosopher.
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Okay, yeah. I feel like I thought it was something
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like that.
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If you go to school.
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Yeah, no, I just know that's a person I should know,
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but I don't. Okay, we may fall back upon an
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old definition of personality, namely of Kant, who said that
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in it, we have the union and the welding of intellect, emotion,
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and volition.
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So he wanted to, his philosophy is centered around the
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human subject, And motivated by the desire to secure the
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possibility of both knowledge and morality against the threats of
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skepticism and determinism. That's a sentence.
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That's too much for me, man.
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Yeah, I'll look into this guy a little bit later.
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Necessarily, as we look at Simon Peter, we see him
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in his relationships with Christ and in the atmosphere, therefore,
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of Christianity. Nevertheless, through all these things, we may discover
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the essential truth concerning him. Dr. McInnes of California wrote
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a remarkable book on Peter called In his teaching, which
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he called The Fisherman Philosopher, it's a cool title, it
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was an apt and true description. He was a man
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of intellectual capacity as is seen quite simply in the
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fact that the records speak of him as asking more
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questions than any of the disciples. The asking of questions
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is a sure sign of intellectuality. What a statement. Because
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I think today we look at it opposite.
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Yeah, if you're asking questions, you're a dummy. Yeah, and
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so that's.
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Why people are afraid to ask questions. That's what we
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were talking about. I don't know if we were talking
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about that on camera or off camera.
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Just right now, yeah, talking about Peter. Yeah, exactly.
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He's up there. He said, yeah, yeah, I'll ask the question.
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David in a way as well. David could be looked at.
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I yell at David because he's like, yeah, I'm an idiot.
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He likes to say that to people. I'm like, I
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don't think so. I don't think you are, and I
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don't think you should announce that to people because number one,
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it's wrong. Number two, whatever they do with it. But yeah,
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if you're asking questions because you want to know, That's
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the whole point of growing, learning, doing a podcast.
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Like everything is involved in learning more things. Like what? Like,
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I don't know that it is so wild that we're like, yeah,
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the intellectual one is the one who stops asking questions.
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Right.
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Like, okay, cool. Like, so how long can you live
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in that dead state of like no more information coming in?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You would just die like that. It seems like you're,
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you're like your brain, your intellectuality would just die if
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you're not taking in your spirit. I feel like that
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about like spirit realm stuff, dude, if you're not digging
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into the scripture and praying and seeking God and looking
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for more, like you're just dying.
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I like, I like the idea that, uh, Ed Mabry says, well,
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this is probably before you hopped on, like, or we,
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we met you, but when talking about heaven and eternity, uh,
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at rest. And I'm like, that sounds like torture. Like
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just being on vacation for like the rest of eternity
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is like, and it's like, nah, man, like we'll be
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learning and doing better. We won't be sinning. But that
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also implies maybe we'd be making mistakes and then learning
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from them and learning from other people still. I'm like,
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that's fascinating.
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Yeah, we could spend eternity learning of God. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's the point.
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And it would never grow old.
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Yeah, that's what I'd like to do.
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Yeah, but that's what I'm saying when I talk about
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people who already have all their doctrines set, all their theology,
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all their eschatology. They already have all their stuff set, right?
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All their thinking is set.
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And they're what now?
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Every passage you read with them, they go, I already
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know it means this, this, this, and this. I don't know.
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That sounds like. something I would not want to be
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engaged in. I certainly wouldn't be reading the Bible or
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pursuing God if I felt like I already knew all
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the stuff. And maybe we can all get in a
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little phase where we kind of feel like that, where
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we go like, well, where do I go now? I
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kind of already have an opinion about all the stuff.
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I suppose any of us could get stuck in that.
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Yeah, but what if you had like, yeah, I have
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already an opinion about all the stuff and I'm just
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going to make my entire business about this stuff only.
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And I never come out of it. It's like, that's death, right?
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Not death.
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Well, yeah, stagnant.
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It's stagnant. That's the dead man's bones. That's like the
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empty tomb.
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Yeah, it's like the Dead Sea is dead because the
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water goes in, but it doesn't go out. There's got
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to be this movement, man.
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Yeah, a stirring up.
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Okay, so the asking of questions is a sure sign
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of intellectuality. If a man never asks a question, it
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is because the intellectual side of his nature is stultified. Yeah,
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that's the truth. It's not because he's a genius. As
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we follow Peter, we hear him saying, inter alia. I'm
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guessing that's a Greek Phrase to, to whom shall we go?
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Thou has the words of eternal life.
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So he's going to start naming some of the stuff
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that Peter said. As we follow Peter, we hear him
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saying to whom shall we go? Thou has the words
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of eternal life. How often shall my brother sin against me?
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And I forgive him. Who is it that betrays thee?
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Where go is thou? Why cannot I follow thee? What
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shall this man do? A careful consideration of these questions
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will show that in every case, they were really big questions.
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even though they may reveal a certain amount of ignorance.
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That he was a man full of human emotion needs
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no argument. On the occasion when he cried out in
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the bitterness of his spirit, depart from me, for I
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am a sinful man, O Lord, he revealed that emotional nature.
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So also when at Caesarea Philippi he said to his
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Lord in anger, that be far from thee. The same
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thing is manifest.
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What does that mean, that be far from thee, in
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the context?
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The context of that is where he's talking about going
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to the cross, right?
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Okay, yeah, right, right. And that's when Jesus condemns him.
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It's got to be that. I mean, off the top
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of my head, I think it's got to be that
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that he's talking about. Yeah, because then Jesus, you know,
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I think that's a whole exchange where he says, get
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behind me, Satan. You know, but he's making the point
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that like that's showing his emotion. That be far from thee.
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You know, when he does that, the same things manifest,
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his emotional nature. When he said, I will lay down
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my life for thee, it was a great emotional outburst.
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When later amid the darkness, he went out into the
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night weeping bitterly, the same thing is seen. You know,
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he goes out weeping after he makes eye contact with
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Jesus after he denies him. And again, it is clearly
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manifest in the conversation which he had with our Lord
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by the Sea of Tiberias. That whole thing with the
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fish and, you know, do you love me, Peter? Hey,
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what's John going to do? That whole thing. Moreover, he
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was a man of tremendous willpower. There are moments when
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that seems as though it were not so. And yet
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the whole outlook proves it. He left all to follow Jesus.
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He went over the side of the boat to walk
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to him on the water. He dared to protest against
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Jesus openly. He drew the sword and smote the servant
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of the high priest. Of course, we are in danger
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of speaking carelessly about will. About like, you know, he's
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saying like he has willpower, tremendous willpower. Of course, we
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are in danger of speaking carelessly about will. On more
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than one occasion, a man has told me an excuse
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for some persistent sin that he has no willpower. As
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for instance, when a man said concerning his drinking of whiskey,
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I cannot help it. I have no willpower. To such
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a man, I replied, You have great willpower, as is
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proven by the fact that you will drink whiskey. Willpower
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may be exercised in a wrong direction. Thus, all the
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elements of great personality were found in Simon, and yet
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he was a weak man. He lacked an element, welding
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the elemental things into consistency and strength.
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Isn't that wild?
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This is so much about what this book is about,
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is how Jesus deals with people because he sees them
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in their full potential. capacity like in their full potential
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and he wants to bring about that full potential right
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like if he's created us in christ jesus uh with
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works uh before the world began right he's got this
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destiny for us it's like then that's really what we're
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talking about is like for all of us it's welding
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together all these characteristics and personality traits so that we
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will be made according to his will and live according
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to his will do.
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You think this is a stupid question but at the
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At the same time that Jesus is on earth, he
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needed to get these 12 personality types in order to
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do this. Because the Bible, whether Jesus is in a
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different location or not, the Bible will play out the
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same way, just maybe different names written in different areas.
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But you think that there's people, especially at the time,
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that could fit that exact mold somewhere else. Why these guys?
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Just because they were in the area? I mean, they
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were born there. They're predestined for it by God. But
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there are people who match these characteristics today. And it
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makes me wonder, God sees that and then he uses it.
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He would still be doing that today. Like we've been
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talking about through the Tozer sermons, like the same way
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people who walked with Jesus, it's the same for us
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that have the Holy Ghost today, right?
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Right, right.
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The same way the Holy Ghost looks at our personality,
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looks at all these shortcomings, but sees us in our
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full potential and works with that.
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And tries to bring about this reality of our destiny.
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We've been saved and called with a holy calling in
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Christ Jesus before the world began. So like what the,
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what the human wants to do and needs to do
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is get with God and to bring that out, to
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bring that to fruition. Right. So the Holy ghost, like
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reach into our personality and start, you know, ripping out
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things that are not okay. Cutting out things that are
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not okay. Burning out things that are not okay. And
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kind of guiding us, uh, into this path that he's
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provided for us. But it's an interesting thought, man. It's,
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it's interesting how he's saying this about Peter. Cause I
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guess he can see it clearly in Peter, but I
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would say it applies to all of us, man. So
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he says, Thus, all the elements of great personality were
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found in Simon, and yet he was a weak man.
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He lacked an element welding the elemental things into consistency
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and strength. Some years ago, Mr. Gardner wrote a book, Prophets, Priests,
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and Kings. And in the course of it, in a
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sketch on William Jennings Bryan, he said of him, he
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was a great man, but he lacked preciousness. That statement
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showed Gardner's scriptural background, and may I say his familiarity
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with the writings of Peter. Peter, later speaking of relationship
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with Christ, declared that he was precious and that to
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those related to him, the preciousness was communicated. What is preciousness?
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We speak of jewels as precious stones, and it is
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an apt word. Every true jewel is a combination of
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elements welded into strength. This is what Simon lacked. All
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this would mean that he was a trial to his friends,
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notwithstanding their love of him. And further, he was certainly
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a trial to himself. One can imagine a man like
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this after the failure of the day, torturing his own
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soul with his weakness and vowing never to repeat the
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follies over which he mourned. And yet on the next day,
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probably repeating them. Everyone. That's his take on Peter, man.
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And yeah, I mean, you can see that as life, dude,
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you could see like this human nature doesn't change, man. Yeah.
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There's people doing this today. There's the rough thing today
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is that it's recorded on the internet when you do
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it now, man. That was one of the most terrifying
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things when Jess first has Facebook, like, I guess 20
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years ago now, I don't even remember.
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Yeah, but like, I would rather it be recorded here.
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You know, not that many people are going to watch this.
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The Bible is, you know, it's been around for, I'd
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safely say the Bible will probably be more read and
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looked at than whatever I'm doing here.
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Yeah.
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So like, damn, dude.
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No, but I'm saying, so you get in a fight
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on Facebook, any of these shortcomings you have in your
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life that you're embarrassed of, that you say, I'm not
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going to do that tomorrow. You get up tomorrow and
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you do it. Right. But imagine that like on Facebook,
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I was watching these arguments that Jess was like scrolling through,
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I guess it was like people we knew or whatever.
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And the way they were arguing, I was like, I
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would be so embarrassed, man. And I know like tons
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of times where I've acted in a way where I'm
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so embarrassed and have to go apologize to people. Imagine
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if there's this written record of it and everybody watched it.
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Like that's rough, man. I know you don't struggle with
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that because you just like.
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No, no, you win every time. No, no. I'm thinking
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of like some other, I had a family, uh, a
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family member into a fight with another family member. And like,
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they were posting, um, security footage on Facebook. And I
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was like, this is bizarre, but yeah.
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That's what I'm saying.
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They probably could be embarrassed of it. But then also
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when you go on that road and it's all public now,
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you can't walk it back.
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I hope that they'd be embarrassed of it. I don't know.
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I don't know. But I've, I've at least had the
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sense not to do that. Like, you know, I get,
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we get into like scurries and like talks to say
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things to people, but like, that's it. that's another level
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of like, have you thought this through?
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Yeah. Yeah. You get tied up in emotion and doing
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crazy stuff. And then, like I said, man, once you
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once it's out there in public, it's almost like people
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can't walk it back. They've dug their heels in and
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now they have to stand behind it. Yeah. It's a
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tricky game, man. Yeah, it's a tricky game.
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All right.
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Okay, now we turn to observe our Lord dealing with him.
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That was just like the intro. Necessarily, the story begins
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with the action of Andrew. An old Puritan writer once
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said that he thought the reason why Andrew hurried out
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to find his brother was that Simon had been such
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a difficulty in the family life. That's wild, man. G.
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Campbell Morgan says, I do not know that I agree
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with this writer, or if I do, I would add
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something to it. If Andrew recognized what a difficult man
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he had been, If he knew, as he probably did,
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that there were elements of weakness in him, he also
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knew that there were elements of strength in him. And therefore,
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he found him and brought him face to face with Jesus,
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which is really all of our jobs.
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We talk about that.
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It's like, hey, Bobby, Jesus, Jesus, Bobby, Bobby, holler if
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you need anything. That's ultimately all we want to do, man,
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is introduce people to Jesus and get them into that relationship.
492
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Just plug stuff in and get out the way.
493
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Help them and guide them any way we can, but
494
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it's about them and Jesus.
495
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Yeah, I like that.
496
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The first thing we read then is that our Lord
497
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looked upon him. We halt here because the word employed
498
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for that looking is not a usual one. It may
499
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be at once said that the same word is employed
500
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in describing his look at Peter in the judgment hall.
501
00:21:22.390 --> 00:21:25.609
The word indicates a look of penetration. The look was
502
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not a mere glance, courteous and attentive, but rather one
503
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that brought the consciousness of investigation and knowledge. The sense
504
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of it might be expressed by reading it not he
505
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looked upon him, but he looked through him.
506
00:21:37.589 --> 00:21:41.930
Hmm. That's, that's rough.
507
00:21:42.069 --> 00:21:44.329
Yeah. Like they meet and it's like, Jesus just looked
508
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through them.
509
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Don't look at me like that.
510
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No, I'm just saying that's like a wild, I don't,
511
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cause I don't think a lot of, I don't think
512
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we get it, man. Like there's, there's these other stories
513
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where there's something they need to ask Jesus and they're
514
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all like, I'm not asking him.
515
00:21:59.740 --> 00:22:01.660
You ask him. Yeah. He must've been intense. Yeah.
516
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It was just like this presence about him. Like he
517
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looked at you and he looks through you.
518
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I don't like, there are some people where I'm like,
519
00:22:06.740 --> 00:22:09.789
I don't really like making extended eye contact with them
520
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because I feel like, through, well, through my eyes or
521
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through their eyes, either I'm going to pick up something
522
00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:16.859
from them that I don't necessarily want to see, or
523
00:22:16.900 --> 00:22:19.319
it might be going, there's like a weird exchange.
524
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I don't know.
525
00:22:20.180 --> 00:22:23.470
Maybe I'm autistic, but there's no, maybe it feels like
526
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there's a weird exchange when you're looking someone in the
527
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eye and like, I don't know exactly what is going
528
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on or what I'm going to, perceived from you or
529
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yeah i don't i don't particularly like it so.
530
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What do you mean eye contact or just like with
531
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certain people eye contact because you don't know what you're
532
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about to get into.
533
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With people i don't know it's not about like what
534
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i'm about to get into but what am i going
535
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to disclose or what are you going to tell me
536
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:45.299
there's sometimes in.
537
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People wait you think there's people that will what are
538
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they going to disclose like what are they going to
539
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learn about you.
540
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If i can learn something about you from looking at
541
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your eyes i assume it goes both ways huh And
542
00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:58.099
there's some people when you look in their eyes, you
543
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can tell right away like, oh, this guy is presenting something.
544
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But your eyes are saying something very different.
545
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Right.
546
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And the older I get, the more like you can
547
00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:06.089
kind of.
548
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I don't think there's a lot of people that perceive
549
00:23:08.059 --> 00:23:10.380
like that, though. You're saying like the same way you
550
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.660
look in somebody's eye and you can perceive like what's
551
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what's happening. I don't know that there's a lot.
552
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Of not all the time, but some. But there are
553
00:23:16.769 --> 00:23:19.490
some people you probably had this experience with some people.
554
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You look them in the eye and then you'll go, oh.
555
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Like this person I could see like genuine or sometimes like, oh,
556
00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:27.359
this is something else. So when I see that, it's
557
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almost like I feel like I'm invading your privacy a
558
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little bit. And I'm like, I'd rather not like just
559
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do what you got to do. I'm not going to.
560
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This doesn't even have to go that far.
561
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What do you mean? Because eye contact is like so
562
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intimate of a thing if you talk about it.
563
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Somebody can tell you a thing and then their eyes
564
00:23:41.930 --> 00:23:44.910
could lie while they're telling you. And you can see
565
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it and it's just one of those things where I go,
566
00:23:47.150 --> 00:23:49.650
note it. you know? And I don't like that.
567
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Not even necessarily like their eyes lied, but just, you
568
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.279
can see their character like, like in the eyes.
569
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A glimpse of it. And it's never like a full story.
570
00:23:58.819 --> 00:24:00.799
I don't know your whole story, but I, I think
571
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Jesus would, if Jesus is in front of you, he
572
00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:05.759
probably knows already, but man, you look him in the eyes. It's,
573
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.200
it's even more intense. He just reads everything about you
574
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and you're like, Oh, it must feel crazy.
575
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.200
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
576
00:24:15.460 --> 00:24:18.509
Jesus is a dude that I mean, not to compare
577
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Owen Benjamin to Jesus, but when I'm talking with Owen Benjamin.
578
00:24:21.950 --> 00:24:23.710
That's so wild that you just did that because I
579
00:24:23.730 --> 00:24:25.779
was trying to not do that. No, no.
580
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It's a thing.
581
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.599
I was trying to not bring up Owen, but he
582
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.400
does have that. He has that where you're like, the
583
00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:34.319
longer I talk to this guy, like he's just accumulating data.
584
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He's accumulating data.
585
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The longer I'm like talking to him and looking at him,
586
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especially looking in his eye, he's accumulating so much data.
587
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And I don't like that.
588
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He has this vibe too. I like it. I love
589
00:24:43.910 --> 00:24:46.069
it about him. But I just felt like very brotherly.
590
00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:47.730
with him. Like, I don't know why I just felt like, yeah,
591
00:24:47.750 --> 00:24:49.490
this guy's like my brother. Is it in a weird way?
592
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Yeah.
593
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It's like, I have no, but I could see where
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people would not like that. If they had something to hide, dude,
595
00:24:54.819 --> 00:24:57.099
they would be very like, they would be like, yeah,
596
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:58.279
this dude's looking through me.
597
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Well, I, again, it's, but this is one of those
598
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things where people are like, well, I got nothing to hide.
599
00:25:02.529 --> 00:25:05.400
So go ahead and read. It's like, no, that's no, Uh,
600
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I just, I'll tell you, I don't particularly like being
601
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read like that. And I, that's one dude that is
602
00:25:12.849 --> 00:25:14.430
doing that. I know that he does. And it's not
603
00:25:14.450 --> 00:25:17.529
like a bad thing. It's just, I'm perceptive of it.
604
00:25:17.630 --> 00:25:20.049
He's looking at me. He'll ask me a question and
605
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I'll answer him. But when he's, when he's listening to you,
606
00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:25.559
he is intently listening and he's looking at your eyes
607
00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:28.890
and I'm like, okay, I am telling him answers. But
608
00:25:28.950 --> 00:25:29.990
what else am I telling him?
609
00:25:30.029 --> 00:25:32.869
Yeah, my words are saying something, but he's getting data
610
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from a lot more than just my words.
611
00:25:34.430 --> 00:25:36.450
The words don't almost don't even matter at that point.
612
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The words. Well, they kind of, you know, I think
613
00:25:38.309 --> 00:25:41.319
the words are giving you like the boundaries of what
614
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.700
the context is. But he's reading something else. There are
615
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.519
other people like that, too. Very intense. I think the guy,
616
00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:50.299
John Lenhart, Ed Mabry's guy, was doing that to a
617
00:25:50.339 --> 00:25:52.519
lesser level. And I'm like, no, not for me.
618
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.380
But perceiving a lot by more than just the words,
619
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by the eye contact. And I don't think that's magic.
620
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I just think that that's someone that's paying attention that
621
00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:04.190
has like that sort of a gift. Well, communication. At
622
00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:05.809
the end of the day, we're talking about communication. And
623
00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:09.730
we're like, yeah, communication happens only by like words and language.
624
00:26:10.009 --> 00:26:12.289
So if you speak Spanish and another guy speaks English,
625
00:26:12.309 --> 00:26:14.410
then you can't have communication, which I learned a long
626
00:26:14.430 --> 00:26:16.039
time ago. Like, no, no, that's not true, dude. I
627
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.519
can totally communicate with Spanish people on job sites. And
628
00:26:19.539 --> 00:26:21.099
I don't know any of their words and they don't
629
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:21.940
know any of my words.
630
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.609
This is why, uh, you know, Owen said it. I
631
00:26:25.630 --> 00:26:27.369
think he's right. It's like when, when he goes in
632
00:26:27.390 --> 00:26:29.950
the room, some people just start to like, and I
633
00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:33.170
think it's because they know that he's reading them. They
634
00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:35.519
know he's reading them. And I also don't want people
635
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:37.599
to know that I'm reading them. So I don't like it.
636
00:26:38.099 --> 00:26:39.180
I kind of want you to behave.
637
00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:41.380
Wait, but who are you reading? Are you like, aren't
638
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.500
you usually just vibing with people? You're just like talking
639
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.200
to them and having a good time or no, you're
640
00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:46.539
like specifically trying to.
641
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:48.880
I'm reading everybody, but I'm not doing it like, Oh,
642
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.309
I'm Benjamin six foot eight. Like, like he's, he's reading
643
00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:55.309
and it's obvious, but I read, I read people all
644
00:26:55.329 --> 00:26:57.130
the time. I just, but I'm not going to, I
645
00:26:57.150 --> 00:26:59.789
don't like to do it like outward. So that way
646
00:26:59.809 --> 00:27:01.650
they know I'm because I think there's a thing too.
647
00:27:01.670 --> 00:27:04.329
If you know that I'm reading you, you're, you're going
648
00:27:04.349 --> 00:27:06.269
to behave differently around me. So I don't want to
649
00:27:06.289 --> 00:27:08.900
do that. But like, over a certain amount of time,
650
00:27:08.940 --> 00:27:12.519
I could, yeah, I'm studying people. Don't you? Doesn't every,
651
00:27:12.740 --> 00:27:13.539
everybody probably does.
652
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.299
Yeah. But not, not like intentionally, I wouldn't say studying
653
00:27:16.339 --> 00:27:19.160
like that. It's something more than just like, I don't know.
654
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.160
That makes it sound like you don't know what I'm
655
00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:24.130
up to. And I'm doing something like dishonest, if you will, like, no, no,
656
00:27:24.170 --> 00:27:26.490
I'm engaging with you human to human. And I'm excited
657
00:27:26.509 --> 00:27:29.289
to have communication with you because I like humans and
658
00:27:29.309 --> 00:27:30.250
we've already dealt with that.
659
00:27:30.309 --> 00:27:30.450
Right.
660
00:27:30.470 --> 00:27:32.960
But I like humans. And then We're doing some back
661
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.559
and forth. And OK, in that process, I'm going to
662
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.329
gauge things from you. I'm going to know things about you.
663
00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:42.309
But I'm not like secretly doing that. You are secretly
664
00:27:42.349 --> 00:27:43.670
doing that. I respect that.
665
00:27:43.970 --> 00:27:46.569
No, it's not like a secret. I just said it
666
00:27:46.630 --> 00:27:48.769
on the show. What it is, though, it's like I
667
00:27:48.809 --> 00:27:53.009
can't stop doing that. So when David goes, you can
668
00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.859
talk to him. He goes, well, it's online. Online, they
669
00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:58.940
say the top lobster litmus test is 100%.
670
00:27:58.940 --> 00:27:59.480
What does that mean?
671
00:28:00.339 --> 00:28:03.390
Exactly what we're talking about. Like, I could tell you
672
00:28:03.430 --> 00:28:06.349
about somebody or I'm like, down the line, if you
673
00:28:06.369 --> 00:28:08.670
extrapolate from the behaviors here and the things that I've seen,
674
00:28:09.089 --> 00:28:11.670
this is going to go badly. As a matter of fact,
675
00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:13.529
sometimes I could tell you what they're going to do.
676
00:28:14.150 --> 00:28:16.630
And it's like, okay, let's talk six months from now.
677
00:28:16.819 --> 00:28:20.619
And six months from now, they're like, damn, dude. Yep. 100%.
678
00:28:20.619 --> 00:28:22.920
And I don't really necessarily want to do it, but
679
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.019
it just happens. And I don't like doing it. But anyway, whatever.
680
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.480
Jesus is an intense dude because he's doing that. Yeah.
681
00:28:30.099 --> 00:28:30.819
And probably in a second.
682
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.269
Just looking through people. Well, if we're talking about Owen Benjamin,
683
00:28:34.289 --> 00:28:36.329
let's say Peter would be like the Owen Benjamin and
684
00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:38.569
Jesus is seeing like right through that type.
685
00:28:38.849 --> 00:28:41.769
Which is crazy. That's another level of like, you know,
686
00:28:42.150 --> 00:28:45.210
apex predator noticing. Yeah. Yeah.
687
00:28:45.269 --> 00:28:49.190
Seeing and knowing everything about your character and just everything
688
00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:50.250
about what you are.
689
00:28:50.410 --> 00:28:55.079
And I don't think those types like to be perceived.
690
00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:58.240
They like to do it probably. But when it's done
691
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.369
to them. Who would like that? You know, especially like that.
692
00:29:01.450 --> 00:29:02.170
This is my thing.
693
00:29:02.269 --> 00:29:04.579
I don't know. I like that. If it's going to
694
00:29:04.630 --> 00:29:06.480
mean that we're going to have a deeper connection, we're
695
00:29:06.500 --> 00:29:08.740
going to have a deeper conversation. You're going to actually
696
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.440
know me and we're going to be able to engage
697
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.559
in deeper discussion.
698
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.339
Sure. With Jesus, but with John Lenhardt, who I don't know,
699
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:15.079
I don't like that.
700
00:29:15.339 --> 00:29:15.579
Yeah.
701
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.640
I don't know your intentions.
702
00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:19.150
Okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah. But I just
703
00:29:19.369 --> 00:29:22.150
don't know, man. At some point, the superficial talking and stuff,
704
00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:23.869
I only have so much room for that, dude. I
705
00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:25.890
do like the deeper things. I do want to talk
706
00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:27.890
to people about the deep things of life. You know
707
00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:29.890
what I'm saying? I'm not talking about 10 a.m. on
708
00:29:29.910 --> 00:29:31.759
a Tuesday necessarily when I'm in the middle of work.
709
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.319
But in general, it is nice to know people for
710
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.569
who and what they really are. yeah it's good for
711
00:29:36.589 --> 00:29:42.750
them to know you like that amen amen brother okay
712
00:29:42.809 --> 00:29:44.849
the sense of it might be expressed by reading it
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not he looked upon him but he looked through him
714
00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:49.859
then he told him in effect that he knew him
715
00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:53.180
and knew his father you are simon the son of
716
00:29:53.220 --> 00:29:56.259
john then came the amazing word you shall be called
717
00:29:56.380 --> 00:30:00.160
cephas thou shall be called peter It may be asked,
718
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.859
what was there amazing about that? And the reply is
719
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that it is only as we recognize the truth about
720
00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:09.700
the man that we shall understand. Here, one may observe
721
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.549
at once that the remarkable thing in the story is
722
00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:17.130
that Simon made no reply. This is interesting. Anyone familiar
723
00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:19.450
with Simon will see how remarkable a fact that is.
724
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He was not given to silences of that kind. There
725
00:30:22.950 --> 00:30:25.130
can be no doubt that the reason of his silence
726
00:30:25.650 --> 00:30:28.740
was his utter astonishment. When the Lord told him that
727
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he should be called rock or stone, it sounded incredible.
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It is well that we bear in mind that all
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geologists agree that rock is really the result of processes
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and the exhibition of principle. Here was a man who
731
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lacked that very thing. The elements were there, but they
732
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were not mastered by principle. Our Lord looked at this
733
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man with all his intellectual powers, emotional force, volitional strength,
734
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still lacking that which made him dependable, that upon which
735
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men could build, And he told him he could become
736
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exactly what in that way he was not.
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Did you see our episode with Topher Gardner?
738
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I don't know.
739
00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:05.670
I don't think you even met him. He was at
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the shop.
741
00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:08.289
I met Topher the first time he came. Yeah, me
742
00:31:08.329 --> 00:31:10.990
and Topher are tight. We were like food forest buddies. Oh, okay.
743
00:31:11.369 --> 00:31:14.390
We were talking about the idea of geopolymers. And it's
744
00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:15.109
interesting because.
745
00:31:15.250 --> 00:31:17.470
Things that bind things together? Yeah, yeah.
746
00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:19.609
But more specifically, I mean, he was even talking about
747
00:31:19.630 --> 00:31:22.170
the pyramids in Egypt and how they would have built them.
748
00:31:22.210 --> 00:31:25.369
He's convinced that they had molds. And basically what they
749
00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:28.400
did was create stones. And the way they create stone
750
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.680
is by mixing different materials and then like a little short,
751
00:31:31.700 --> 00:31:35.009
like a small amount of water. And that water would
752
00:31:35.029 --> 00:31:37.650
then bind this stuff together. And that's the process of
753
00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:38.089
creating the rock.
754
00:31:38.109 --> 00:31:40.470
And they could have just moved up to the next level,
755
00:31:40.609 --> 00:31:43.210
mixed it, put it, mixed it, put it, moved up
756
00:31:43.230 --> 00:31:44.690
to the next level. So it wasn't like they were
757
00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:46.670
quarrying stone from somewhere far away.
758
00:31:46.819 --> 00:31:47.420
Yeah, that's like.
759
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.400
I don't know. That gets weird, though, because those foundation
760
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.099
stones are huge, dude. The foundation stones on the Pyramid
761
00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:55.480
of Giza, they're like. But isn't that a type of
762
00:31:55.549 --> 00:31:57.490
rock that they find quarried somewhere or no?
763
00:31:57.569 --> 00:31:59.589
He's saying, yeah, I mean like the, all the materials
764
00:31:59.670 --> 00:32:02.710
are native to Egypt, but they're from different areas.
765
00:32:03.190 --> 00:32:03.470
Right.
766
00:32:03.710 --> 00:32:05.809
What he's saying is though, the process though of making
767
00:32:05.869 --> 00:32:08.519
a rock or making a stone is like putting it
768
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.980
together and then having that, uh, the geopolymer will be
769
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.259
the water that activates it. And then eventually over time
770
00:32:13.299 --> 00:32:16.259
it like hardens and sticks together. That's like the process
771
00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.460
of the rock. It's a bunch of other like small things, characteristics,
772
00:32:19.779 --> 00:32:22.430
but when put together and then you have this, sprinkling
773
00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:24.799
of water and then the sun on it or the
774
00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:27.759
light then it turns into this stone yeah and the
775
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.480
stone is super strong now we use concrete which is
776
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.980
like it's just i don't know it's a lesser idea
777
00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:37.220
of that it concrete crumbles and it breaks but the
778
00:32:37.329 --> 00:32:39.990
stone when it breaks too it's like it'll chip off
779
00:32:40.029 --> 00:32:42.230
and it'll still be solid and you see what's inside
780
00:32:42.250 --> 00:32:44.619
of it it's like that's the process that we're talking
781
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.720
about with Peter. It's a bunch of different things.
782
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.819
That's what I'm saying. Like this whole thing is just
783
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.240
a snapshot of what this whole book is about and
784
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.839
what really all of our lives are about, man, is
785
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.420
like all these personality traits and characteristics and all these
786
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.430
things going on in every one of us. And God
787
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is the one who brings it all together. And it's
788
00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:06.809
staggering this, this concept that, uh, you know, referring to
789
00:33:06.849 --> 00:33:10.150
him as rock was like, yeah, you're a process. Like
790
00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:11.990
a process is going to have to happen for you
791
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.220
to become this thing that people can depend on, that
792
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.920
people can count on, that people can build on.
793
00:33:17.940 --> 00:33:21.359
Yeah. And before the final polymer of the light and
794
00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:24.279
the sprinkling of the water, which solidifies it, Peter is
795
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.509
just parts, you know, in a container, parts in that cast.
796
00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:31.869
But we all are, right?
797
00:33:32.450 --> 00:33:35.789
Well, until you're solidified, right? Until, yeah, yeah. So that's
798
00:33:35.809 --> 00:33:38.529
the process of it. That's, That's a really good idea
799
00:33:38.549 --> 00:33:40.289
to put together what he's talking about.
800
00:33:40.609 --> 00:33:44.269
It's like the born again experience and the sanctification process
801
00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:47.680
is the bringing together of all these parts of our
802
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.759
personality and bringing it under submission to God ultimately.
803
00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.700
That's why I, is it Paul who says like once
804
00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:58.240
somebody has received the Holy Ghost or has been truly reborn,
805
00:33:58.259 --> 00:34:00.390
like you can't, you can't really go back.
806
00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:01.910
Good word of God and the power of the age
807
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to come.
808
00:34:02.329 --> 00:34:02.490
Yeah.
809
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In Hebrews. Yeah. Yeah. Because he says, if he goes
810
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back on him, then.
811
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Dude, like, how do you, I mean, you have to be,
812
00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.070
how do you, how do you put those materials? Yeah.
813
00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:12.059
Yeah. How do you unbind? Yeah.
814
00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:14.360
You'd have to pull them up, but then they're not
815
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.440
necessarily the same thing. Like a lot of the stuff
816
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.380
now we're seeing in a, like by Noah's Ark or
817
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.840
in like Roman cathedrals, there's seashells and things like that
818
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.579
within the stone.
819
00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:22.980
Sure.
820
00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:24.460
Cause it's just stuff that they put in there.
821
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:24.960
Yeah.
822
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.260
But once it solidifies, you can't take that seashell. It's
823
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.409
no longer that like you can, chip it out, but
824
00:34:29.449 --> 00:34:30.750
it's going to be broken.
825
00:34:30.809 --> 00:34:32.730
Some of the rock has seashell in it. Like even
826
00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:34.809
in Florida, the limestone has seashell in it.
827
00:34:34.949 --> 00:34:35.710
From that process.
828
00:34:36.030 --> 00:34:36.269
Yeah.
829
00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.829
Yeah. But you can't, you can't nobody mix seashell into
830
00:34:39.869 --> 00:34:43.239
that rock. It's well, I'm just saying for like some
831
00:34:43.260 --> 00:34:46.019
of the Roman structures, they did, they did mix. They actively, yeah,
832
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.519
that was a human, but it's, this happens naturally as well,
833
00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:51.219
but you can't get a seashell back. I mean, maybe
834
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.340
you could, but you'd have to really chip around it.
835
00:34:53.780 --> 00:34:53.960
Right.
836
00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:54.159
Yeah.
837
00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:56.699
It's become part of the greater whole now. It's not
838
00:34:56.739 --> 00:34:57.280
its own thing.
839
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.019
So it breaks out.
840
00:34:59.489 --> 00:35:02.380
Okay, the method of Jesus then was that of believing
841
00:35:02.420 --> 00:35:05.039
in the possibilities of this man when no one else did,
842
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.719
and when probably Simon did not. By this word, our
843
00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:11.739
Lord captured him. It is a constant way of the master.
844
00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:14.679
My mind goes back to an hour here at Westminster
845
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.099
when a man came into my vestry and said, I
846
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:19.940
should like to shake hands with you as I pass,
847
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:21.940
but there is no hope for me now, for I
848
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:23.940
have gone so far that even my mother does not
849
00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:26.940
believe in me. I well remember looking at him and saying,
850
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.260
that is indeed a terrible story, but I know someone
851
00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:32.110
who does believe in you. And he believes in you
852
00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:34.170
because he is able to make you exactly what you
853
00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:36.929
are not. That is the whole story of the beginning
854
00:35:36.949 --> 00:35:39.630
of our Lord's dealing with Simon. From that moment, he
855
00:35:39.690 --> 00:35:42.289
never lost him. Even when it seemed as though he
856
00:35:42.329 --> 00:35:45.510
had almost committed spiritual suicide, he looked at him and
857
00:35:45.530 --> 00:35:47.969
broke his heart. He prayed for him that his faith
858
00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:50.570
should not fail, and his faith never did, even though
859
00:35:50.590 --> 00:35:54.250
his courage did. Presently we find he took Simon Peter
860
00:35:54.289 --> 00:35:56.489
to travel with him and serve with him. Then in
861
00:35:56.550 --> 00:36:01.789
some moment of vacillation, Simon went back to his fishing nets. Again,
862
00:36:01.849 --> 00:36:03.909
our Lord found him, showed him his ability in the
863
00:36:03.949 --> 00:36:06.139
realm of fishing, and then told him that he was
864
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.219
called to a higher vocation, that of catching men alive.
865
00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:12.820
Now we might go through these gospel stories dwelling upon
866
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.780
every incident, which of course is not possible. But if
867
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.130
we did, we should see how all the way our
868
00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:20.190
Lord was dealing with this man and keeping him near
869
00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:23.280
to himself. We will glance at four crises in the story,
870
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.960
in the history. The first came when he had been
871
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.389
saying such things as they had never heard concerning the
872
00:36:30.489 --> 00:36:32.429
eating of his flesh and the drinking of his blood.
873
00:36:33.010 --> 00:36:35.409
And many had left him because of the difficulty of
874
00:36:35.449 --> 00:36:38.110
these sayings. Jesus had said to the group, will you
875
00:36:38.190 --> 00:36:41.710
also go away? It was Simon who uttered the words, Lord,
876
00:36:41.750 --> 00:36:43.789
to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of
877
00:36:43.869 --> 00:36:44.489
eternal life.
878
00:36:45.829 --> 00:36:49.789
Yeah, that's again the idea, right? Once you've... There's no
879
00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:53.639
going back now. Yeah, you're part of this. I guess,
880
00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:55.570
I don't know, a lot of the apostles still at
881
00:36:55.590 --> 00:36:59.610
this time weren't formed into stone. But they were close enough.
882
00:36:59.630 --> 00:37:01.690
They had gone far enough that they're like, there's no
883
00:37:01.730 --> 00:37:02.150
going back.
884
00:37:02.230 --> 00:37:03.949
If I go back now, I'm nothing.
885
00:37:03.969 --> 00:37:05.710
It's like you're on this journey and you went past
886
00:37:05.730 --> 00:37:07.469
the halfway point. It's like it's harder to go back
887
00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:08.949
now than it is to just keep going forward.
888
00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:11.750
I mean, by that point, I don't know. When do
889
00:37:11.769 --> 00:37:14.570
you think the apostles, probably they were formed into stone
890
00:37:16.389 --> 00:37:18.179
after the Holy Spirit comes down on them, right? In
891
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:18.800
the book of Acts?
892
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.059
There's a thought that even before that, like the end
893
00:37:21.099 --> 00:37:23.960
of John, when Jesus comes back and breathes on them
894
00:37:23.980 --> 00:37:25.960
and says, receive the Holy Spirit.
895
00:37:26.489 --> 00:37:27.489
Oh, right, right, right.
896
00:37:27.510 --> 00:37:29.610
Which is intriguing because then it's those same guys who
897
00:37:29.650 --> 00:37:32.130
still do receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit on
898
00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:34.070
the day of Pentecost, but they've already been breathed on,
899
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:36.150
and Jesus already told them, receive the Holy Spirit.
900
00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:38.690
Yeah, but I mean, you don't stop receiving the Holy Spirit.
901
00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:41.010
That's like a continual process, right?
902
00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:43.110
And that's what it sure seems like if you follow
903
00:37:43.130 --> 00:37:45.550
that story out. Like Peter especially, he's there to get
904
00:37:45.610 --> 00:37:48.139
breathed on and say, when Jesus has received the Holy Spirit,
905
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:49.800
then he's there on the day of Pentecost, but then
906
00:37:49.820 --> 00:37:52.059
he's in the house where they're all praying and the
907
00:37:52.099 --> 00:37:54.880
Holy Spirit comes. fell again and the whole place was shaken,
908
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.360
not the people shaking, but the whole place was shaken. Yeah.
909
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.679
So like there's, yeah, you see in Peter's life multiple
910
00:37:59.699 --> 00:38:03.210
times of him receiving the Holy spirit. So it's, it's
911
00:38:03.230 --> 00:38:05.550
an interesting conversation. I think it gets a little rowdy
912
00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:07.530
and offensive, but it's, but it's an interesting conversation.
913
00:38:08.230 --> 00:38:08.449
Yeah.
914
00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:11.690
Then at Caesarea Philippi, our Lord, after a general inquiry
915
00:38:11.909 --> 00:38:15.030
asked his disciples who they said he was, then came
916
00:38:15.090 --> 00:38:17.309
from the lips of Peter, the great confession. You are
917
00:38:17.329 --> 00:38:20.590
the Messiah, the son of the living God. Immediately, the
918
00:38:20.619 --> 00:38:22.929
third followed when our Lord brought him face to face
919
00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:25.690
with the cross. Peter was then brought suddenly face to
920
00:38:25.730 --> 00:38:29.590
face with something utterly beyond his comprehension. He protested and
921
00:38:29.610 --> 00:38:32.829
he protested angrily, falling into language that was almost out
922
00:38:32.849 --> 00:38:36.530
of profanity. At this moment, our Lord, shall I not say,
923
00:38:36.670 --> 00:38:40.110
in the most dramatic and drastic way, rebuked him. Peter
924
00:38:40.150 --> 00:38:42.449
had taken him, that is, taken him aside to utter
925
00:38:42.489 --> 00:38:46.030
his protest. Then the evangelist tells us that the Lord turned,
926
00:38:46.630 --> 00:38:49.760
that is, turned from Peter, turned his back upon him.
927
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.969
and uttered his rebuke. We are driven here to inquire
928
00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:56.730
what was wrong in Peter's action and speech. Let us
929
00:38:56.769 --> 00:38:58.929
remember that he saw the glory of the wonderful life
930
00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:01.969
of his Lord, had been completely possessed by his teaching,
931
00:39:02.469 --> 00:39:05.230
and all this so much so that he had come
932
00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:08.130
to conviction that he was the Messiah and the very
933
00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:10.429
Son of God. Now he was told that he must
934
00:39:10.469 --> 00:39:12.900
fall into the hands of evil men, suffer and be killed.
935
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.480
It was against that he made his protest. But let
936
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.920
it be remembered that when our Lord had told him,
937
00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:22.219
and the rest of these things, he had declared that
938
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.920
they were inevitable, that he must go, and had added
939
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.550
the words which quite evidently Peter had not apprehended the
940
00:39:28.590 --> 00:39:32.739
value of, that he must rise again. Seeing only the cross,
941
00:39:32.780 --> 00:39:35.760
he put his intellectual conception over against the wisdom of
942
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.719
the Lord. Or as Jesus said, he was minding the
943
00:39:38.780 --> 00:39:41.920
things of men, measuring what his Lord had said by
944
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.760
human standards. You see what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, man,
945
00:39:46.179 --> 00:39:47.880
he's talking about like going to the cross, but then
946
00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:50.969
he's talking about rising again. it may be well to
947
00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:51.670
remember here.
948
00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:56.000
Now again, this is a stupid thought, but like at
949
00:39:56.039 --> 00:40:01.139
that point, Peter could have physically tried to stop Jesus.
950
00:40:01.179 --> 00:40:03.260
Like he could have done a physical action to stop
951
00:40:03.300 --> 00:40:05.639
Jesus from doing this, but Jesus is supposed to be
952
00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:10.090
crucified from the foundation of the earth, right? So therefore,
953
00:40:10.369 --> 00:40:13.469
if you kind of play that out, it could never happen.
954
00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:16.530
What would happen is like Peter will probably explode into
955
00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:18.409
a million pieces before he's able to do anything.
956
00:40:18.710 --> 00:40:20.900
One way or another, he wouldn't be able to accomplish it.
957
00:40:21.170 --> 00:40:26.349
Yeah, but the resolve of Peter, his character to do
958
00:40:26.409 --> 00:40:28.809
a thing, like cutting someone's ear off, he's a dude
959
00:40:28.829 --> 00:40:32.949
of action. When he says that, did Jesus read his resolve?
960
00:40:33.309 --> 00:40:36.349
He might do it. And if he does, he's going
961
00:40:36.369 --> 00:40:39.730
to have to be stopped. And Jesus loves him. You've
962
00:40:39.750 --> 00:40:40.530
got to stop him.
963
00:40:40.550 --> 00:40:43.280
Yeah, so he's harsh with him right then because he's saying, dude,
964
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.300
this guy could try to stop Yeah.
965
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.440
He could try to stop me. And it's like, but like,
966
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.440
then him dying is like, but that's like a temptation
967
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.960
of the devil. So he's talking to the devil. Like it's,
968
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it's a crazy thought to think about because he never
969
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:56.760
could stop, never could stop him.
970
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:57.360
Right.
971
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.429
But you could try.
972
00:40:58.489 --> 00:41:01.090
Yeah. So Peter stops or tries to stop me and
973
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is capable of it. I'm just, he's going to have
974
00:41:02.730 --> 00:41:05.650
to die. Cause I'm going, cause I'm going to the cross.
975
00:41:06.429 --> 00:41:08.050
Yeah. It's got to go that way. It's always going
976
00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:09.690
to go that way. You can't stop it.
977
00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:11.929
You can try to be harsh with him because he's like, dude,
978
00:41:11.969 --> 00:41:13.610
if I don't stop you, you're going to, you're going
979
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to do this.
980
00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:17.909
Yeah, I guess that shows like the strength of free
981
00:41:17.949 --> 00:41:20.929
will of men as well, right? Like I think men
982
00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:22.929
can do something like that. But like, yeah, with a
983
00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:26.199
plan like this, a plan that God has specifically set
984
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.840
out from the beginning of time, that's not changeable. That's
985
00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:31.960
God's plan. You can step in the way, but you're
986
00:41:31.980 --> 00:41:33.869
going to get crushed, blapped up.
987
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.019
Because God's stuff that he's going to do is going
988
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.579
to happen. He leaves room for us to play a
989
00:41:39.619 --> 00:41:41.960
part in it, if you will, in what part we play.
990
00:41:42.019 --> 00:41:44.199
He leaves room for that. But like his purposes are
991
00:41:44.219 --> 00:41:44.659
going to happen.
992
00:41:45.460 --> 00:41:47.179
Yeah, and this one here is like, you know, that's
993
00:41:47.219 --> 00:41:50.130
played out like this is 30-something years, 33 years into
994
00:41:50.190 --> 00:41:52.630
Jesus' life. That's played out. This is too far to
995
00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:56.250
even like, there's no plan change here.
996
00:41:56.289 --> 00:41:58.269
Yeah, but either way, he takes it serious and gets
997
00:41:58.329 --> 00:42:02.570
rowdy with Peter because of it. Yeah. It may be
998
00:42:02.610 --> 00:42:05.300
well to remember here that he never did understand until
999
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.239
the cross was accomplished and he had found the risen Christ.
1000
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.000
That is proven when the opening sentences of his letter
1001
00:42:11.059 --> 00:42:15.500
are read. Here's the opening sentences of his letter. Blessed
1002
00:42:15.539 --> 00:42:17.659
be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1003
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.920
who according to his great mercy begat us again unto
1004
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.059
living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
1005
00:42:24.820 --> 00:42:28.400
When he protested, his hope was not living. For this
1006
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.360
setting up of his own thinking against that of his Lord,
1007
00:42:31.420 --> 00:42:34.469
he was sternly rebuked in the words, get thee behind me, Satan,
1008
00:42:34.510 --> 00:42:38.849
you are an offense unto me. Yeah, that's interesting. He says,
1009
00:42:39.469 --> 00:42:42.230
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1010
00:42:42.289 --> 00:42:45.929
who according to his great mercy begat us again unto
1011
00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:49.369
living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
1012
00:42:50.590 --> 00:42:54.570
When he protested, his hope was not living, right? For
1013
00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:56.530
this setting up of his own thinking against that of
1014
00:42:56.570 --> 00:42:58.789
his Lord, he was sternly rebuked in the words, get
1015
00:42:58.809 --> 00:43:00.739
thee behind me, Satan, you are an offense unto me.
1016
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.460
Then after eight days of comparative silence, we see him
1017
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.480
again on the Mount of Transfiguration. There he saw his
1018
00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:12.570
Lord transfigured. metamorphosed. In the presence of that vision, he said, Lord,
1019
00:43:12.730 --> 00:43:15.210
it is good for us to be here. If you will,
1020
00:43:15.429 --> 00:43:18.460
I will make here three tabernacles, one for you and
1021
00:43:18.539 --> 00:43:21.619
one for Moses and one for Elijah. It is impossible
1022
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.559
to read that without calling to mind the last previous
1023
00:43:24.579 --> 00:43:28.000
thing recorded as having fallen from his lips. When Jesus
1024
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.420
had spoken of the cross, he had said, that be
1025
00:43:30.500 --> 00:43:33.139
far from thee. Now in the glory, he said, it
1026
00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:37.380
is good to be here. Not there in Jerusalem in
1027
00:43:37.460 --> 00:43:40.079
suffering and death, but here in glory and the beauty.
1028
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.760
Let it be observed that whereas he suggested building tabernacles
1029
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.380
for Moses and Elijah also because he saw them there,
1030
00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:49.280
they were talking to Jesus about the very thing that
1031
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.690
Peter was shunning, the decease, the exodus, which he was
1032
00:43:52.750 --> 00:43:55.949
about to accomplish in Jerusalem. Here it was that he
1033
00:43:55.989 --> 00:43:58.570
heard the voice of God saying, This is my beloved
1034
00:43:58.630 --> 00:44:01.050
Son in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye him.
1035
00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:04.230
Hear ye him, an evident reference to what he had
1036
00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:07.460
said concerning his cross. which was the subject of his
1037
00:44:07.500 --> 00:44:11.139
converse with the heavenly visitors. So he's already told Jesus, like,
1038
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.300
don't say that. Don't say you're going to the cross.
1039
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.159
Then Moses and Elijah show up. They start talking to
1040
00:44:16.219 --> 00:44:19.179
Jesus about the cross. And Peter says, yeah, yeah, we'll
1041
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.050
make tabernacles, one for Jesus, one for Moses, one for Elijah.
1042
00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:24.150
And God says, this is my beloved son. Hear him.
1043
00:44:25.090 --> 00:44:25.329
Right?
1044
00:44:25.349 --> 00:44:27.829
And so he's saying, like, hear him what he's saying
1045
00:44:27.869 --> 00:44:30.110
about the cross. Hear what they're saying. He's going to
1046
00:44:30.150 --> 00:44:32.250
the cross. Yeah. The same cross that Peter was trying
1047
00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:34.449
to tell him, no, you never will. But there's an
1048
00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:36.550
interesting element wrapped up in it, too. You got Moses
1049
00:44:36.590 --> 00:44:39.219
and Elijah, right? People would look at that and say
1050
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.820
it's representative of the law and prophets. Either way, it's
1051
00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:45.820
two people that are part of our story. And God
1052
00:44:46.139 --> 00:44:49.179
from heaven is saying, this is my beloved son. Hear him.
1053
00:44:49.949 --> 00:44:53.190
This isn't about Moses and Elijah. This is about anybody else.
1054
00:44:53.210 --> 00:44:55.690
This is about him. This is my beloved son. Hear him.
1055
00:44:56.750 --> 00:44:59.030
This gets into the time travel thing that you love
1056
00:44:59.070 --> 00:44:59.530
so much, huh?
1057
00:44:59.889 --> 00:45:01.190
You really do love time travel.
1058
00:45:01.510 --> 00:45:04.179
Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do.
1059
00:45:04.820 --> 00:45:07.360
I know you do. Okay, once more at the very end,
1060
00:45:07.500 --> 00:45:09.820
talking to this man in the upper room, our Lord
1061
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.139
told him of the still latent weakness that lurked within
1062
00:45:13.179 --> 00:45:15.519
him as he said, Will you lay down your life
1063
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.219
for me? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, the cock
1064
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.550
shall not crow till you have denied me thrice. But
1065
00:45:21.590 --> 00:45:24.869
in close connection therewith, including the other disciples, but by
1066
00:45:24.949 --> 00:45:27.849
no means excluding Peter, he said, Let not your heart
1067
00:45:27.869 --> 00:45:31.349
be troubled. You believe in God, believe in me also. Mm-hmm.
1068
00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:35.230
And continuing, he told them that he was going to
1069
00:45:35.289 --> 00:45:37.829
prepare a place for them. And if he went, he
1070
00:45:37.849 --> 00:45:40.570
would come again and receive them unto himself. So far
1071
00:45:40.610 --> 00:45:43.130
as Peter was concerned, it was a declaration that he
1072
00:45:43.170 --> 00:45:45.889
was able to realize the best in him in spite
1073
00:45:45.909 --> 00:45:49.860
of the worst. I like that, man. I know we
1074
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:51.489
keep coming back to that, but that's what this whole
1075
00:45:51.530 --> 00:45:54.139
thing is about, man. Even all the worst that we
1076
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.519
know about ourselves, God already knows that. And he's still
1077
00:45:57.539 --> 00:46:00.940
willing to die for us, even in that state. Then
1078
00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:03.320
a solemn hush falls upon the heart as we think
1079
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.500
of what followed. Jesus was arraigned in the judgment hall,
1080
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.420
and Peter first outside until John gained him admission, and
1081
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.030
then within is heard denying his Lord, and adding to
1082
00:46:13.070 --> 00:46:16.869
his denial that false emphasis of language, profane swearing. It
1083
00:46:16.949 --> 00:46:19.210
is here that once again our eyes are fixed upon
1084
00:46:19.250 --> 00:46:22.269
the Master. He turned and looked at Simon. It is
1085
00:46:22.309 --> 00:46:24.650
the same word that was used at the beginning. It
1086
00:46:24.690 --> 00:46:26.949
means that he fixed his eyes upon him and looked
1087
00:46:26.969 --> 00:46:28.760
him through and through. That same thing.
1088
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:29.679
That's what we're talking about.
1089
00:46:29.739 --> 00:46:32.800
Calling, like looking through him. Yeah. Peter denies him. They
1090
00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:35.429
make eye contact and Jesus looks through him again.
1091
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.789
How do they describe him in Revelation? They describe Jesus's eyes.
1092
00:46:39.210 --> 00:46:39.559
It's like a.
1093
00:46:40.090 --> 00:46:42.309
I don't know. There's flames of fire. There's hair that's
1094
00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:46.150
white like wool. Are the eyes on fire? I can't remember.
1095
00:46:46.309 --> 00:46:50.010
Burnished brass. That might be the feet. I don't exactly remember.
1096
00:46:50.460 --> 00:46:53.159
I think there's a description about the eyes specifically, but
1097
00:46:53.179 --> 00:46:54.610
it's like, yeah, dude, I don't think it was much
1098
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.449
different when he had his earthly body. That's a good point.
1099
00:46:59.510 --> 00:47:01.949
I mean, maybe not looking like that on the outside,
1100
00:47:01.969 --> 00:47:03.110
but when he looks right at you, it's like.
1101
00:47:03.269 --> 00:47:09.420
Damn, man. That's a good point, man. Yeah. Okay, it
1102
00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:11.579
is here that once again, our eyes are fixed upon
1103
00:47:11.619 --> 00:47:13.699
the master. He turned and looked at Simon. It is
1104
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.340
the same word that was used at the beginning. It
1105
00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:17.360
means that he fixed his eyes upon him and looked
1106
00:47:17.389 --> 00:47:20.110
him through and through. He knew that in that hour
1107
00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:23.269
of reflection, there was the underlying desire to be true
1108
00:47:23.429 --> 00:47:26.250
in spite of all the cursing and swearing. I wonder
1109
00:47:26.289 --> 00:47:29.269
how that look might be interpreted. And yet perhaps there
1110
00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:31.690
is no need to wonder at all. It is perfectly
1111
00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:33.809
certain that it was not a look intended to prove
1112
00:47:33.829 --> 00:47:36.570
the accuracy of the Lord's forecast concerning the man as
1113
00:47:36.610 --> 00:47:39.280
though he should say, I told you so. Neither do
1114
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.860
I believe the look had in it anything of reproach
1115
00:47:42.539 --> 00:47:44.389
for the wrong that was being done to the heart
1116
00:47:44.409 --> 00:47:47.349
of Jesus. It was rather the look of eternal love
1117
00:47:47.389 --> 00:47:50.650
and compassion, a look which said in effect, I told you, Simon,
1118
00:47:50.690 --> 00:47:53.670
that you should be rock. I also told you what
1119
00:47:53.690 --> 00:47:56.710
would happen on this dark night. Trust me now. And
1120
00:47:56.750 --> 00:47:59.579
in spite of everything, the original word shall be fulfilled.
1121
00:48:00.099 --> 00:48:03.719
The result is very clearly declared. The look broke his
1122
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.139
heart and he went out into the night weeping bitterly.
1123
00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:09.230
I like that. He's saying it's not a look of saying, like,
1124
00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:14.409
I told you so, Peter. It's definitely not that. He
1125
00:48:14.469 --> 00:48:17.400
says it was rather a look of eternal love and compassion,
1126
00:48:17.420 --> 00:48:19.139
which said, in effect, I told you that you should
1127
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.039
be rock. Not I told you so that you were
1128
00:48:21.059 --> 00:48:22.860
going to do this. I told you that you should
1129
00:48:22.900 --> 00:48:25.409
be rock and you're going to be. You know, I
1130
00:48:25.449 --> 00:48:27.510
even told you it was going to happen tonight. Look,
1131
00:48:27.550 --> 00:48:29.289
it happened. You're still going to be rock.
1132
00:48:31.550 --> 00:48:34.849
I love that. That's heavy, right? Yeah. Yeah, again, it's
1133
00:48:34.869 --> 00:48:37.429
like a great, what a great insight into that specific
1134
00:48:37.489 --> 00:48:40.699
part of Peter. Because that's one of the biggest mess
1135
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:41.980
ups in the Bible, probably.
1136
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.659
Yeah, man. He just already referred to it earlier as
1137
00:48:44.699 --> 00:48:50.860
spiritual suicide. Yeah. Yeah, like denying Christ, man. So while
1138
00:48:50.900 --> 00:48:52.420
I think there's such a lesson in it, though, like
1139
00:48:52.460 --> 00:48:55.880
some people might be able to justify that by saying like, well, yeah,
1140
00:48:55.900 --> 00:48:57.400
but he was just trying to stay close to him.
1141
00:48:58.019 --> 00:48:59.989
If he told him he's with Jesus, he would have
1142
00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:01.489
got kicked out of the courtyard, like would have got
1143
00:49:01.550 --> 00:49:02.989
kicked out of where they were at. He wouldn't have
1144
00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:04.829
been able to be close to him. So he had
1145
00:49:04.869 --> 00:49:06.570
to deny him to be able to get close to him.
1146
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:07.599
Maybe they would have killed him.
1147
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.610
People think like that. People think like, well, yeah, if
1148
00:49:10.610 --> 00:49:12.920
somebody has a gun to my head and says deny Jesus, well,
1149
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:14.800
then if I don't deny Jesus, then I can't preach
1150
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:15.659
the gospel anymore.
1151
00:49:15.659 --> 00:49:18.369
This is the discussion that we had about a Nicodemus, right?
1152
00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:21.139
Like when he approached Jesus, was he approaching him at
1153
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.980
night because he would have had a better conversation or
1154
00:49:24.019 --> 00:49:25.300
was he doing it because what people think?
1155
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.699
He didn't want to fight in the comments, man. Maybe, maybe.
1156
00:49:28.059 --> 00:49:30.480
Maybe not. They can go both ways.
1157
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:30.840
I don't know.
1158
00:49:31.179 --> 00:49:35.019
But that idea there with Peter is a, it's a
1159
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.519
crazy one because not like when you're talking to your
1160
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.829
kids and you're I don't know. You know that they're
1161
00:49:40.849 --> 00:49:42.550
going to do a thing, right? And it's almost like
1162
00:49:42.590 --> 00:49:45.389
you're setting them up. You're not setting them up, but
1163
00:49:45.449 --> 00:49:48.449
I can't tell you not to do the thing. I
1164
00:49:48.469 --> 00:49:51.190
got to let you learn it yourself. Jesus does tell him,
1165
00:49:52.469 --> 00:49:53.519
and then he still does it.
1166
00:49:53.750 --> 00:49:54.489
I know, man.
1167
00:49:54.949 --> 00:49:59.400
And it's like, that's a harsh lesson to learn, dude.
1168
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:00.559
I know.
1169
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.679
Imagine he tells you ahead of time. That's the staggering
1170
00:50:03.699 --> 00:50:06.860
thing about that. He says, and look at Peter and
1171
00:50:06.980 --> 00:50:09.980
all his... whatever you want to call it, man, like
1172
00:50:10.019 --> 00:50:13.219
in all, all of his strong characteristics, a strong, great
1173
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.920
man among men. He, Jesus tells him that guy, you're
1174
00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:19.840
going to do this. He says, no, no, I never will.
1175
00:50:19.909 --> 00:50:23.550
And he still does it. That's not crazy. Don't you
1176
00:50:23.570 --> 00:50:25.829
think you'd be like, okay, things to not do tonight.
1177
00:50:26.889 --> 00:50:29.489
Deny Jesus. And you know what? Even if I, even
1178
00:50:29.530 --> 00:50:31.809
if I screw up twice, dude, even if I screw
1179
00:50:31.829 --> 00:50:34.789
up twice, I still got one more. I'm still good.
1180
00:50:34.809 --> 00:50:37.199
He said, I'm going to deny him three times. It's
1181
00:50:37.219 --> 00:50:39.119
like my only thing I need to make sure I
1182
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.800
do tonight is don't deny Jesus. But even if I
1183
00:50:41.820 --> 00:50:45.110
screw up twice, like I'm still good. I still didn't
1184
00:50:45.150 --> 00:50:47.510
do it. The three, like you said, I would. And
1185
00:50:47.530 --> 00:50:51.269
then he still does the three staggering dude. The whole
1186
00:50:51.309 --> 00:50:53.610
thing is wild. And at the perfect time that the
1187
00:50:53.650 --> 00:50:54.829
rooster is right there to crow.
1188
00:50:55.650 --> 00:50:58.150
Does that, does that take free will away in any X,
1189
00:50:58.269 --> 00:51:01.550
like any former fashion? Or is it just like that, that,
1190
00:51:01.670 --> 00:51:03.510
cause that has to happen again.
1191
00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:05.469
I don't think so at all. I think it's the, it's,
1192
00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:07.960
man's free will and the sovereignty of God is just
1193
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.920
all wrapped up in one story, man. You know, it's
1194
00:51:10.940 --> 00:51:14.230
like he, yeah, he, he didn't like reach inside Peter
1195
00:51:14.269 --> 00:51:16.070
and twist him to the right to make him do it.
1196
00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:19.010
Is there anywhere else in the Bible where, uh, God
1197
00:51:19.050 --> 00:51:20.570
tells somebody that they're going to do a thing?
1198
00:51:21.090 --> 00:51:23.280
I mean, it's kind of the story of Pharaoh, right?
1199
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:24.460
I mean, it's kind of, yeah, but.
1200
00:51:24.539 --> 00:51:27.699
I mean, Pharaoh meets, Pharaoh gets killed by God later. Um,
1201
00:51:28.889 --> 00:51:32.170
Anybody else that then has this kind of ultimate redemption?
1202
00:51:32.190 --> 00:51:33.969
I'm going to think off the top of my head. Okay,
1203
00:51:33.989 --> 00:51:36.400
so he tells Peter, before the cock crows, you'll deny
1204
00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:39.460
me three times. Is there anybody else who he says,
1205
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:40.460
you're going to do this?
1206
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.500
Maybe Jonah? I don't know. But he doesn't tell him,
1207
00:51:45.539 --> 00:51:47.489
you're going to do this. He asks him. He asks
1208
00:51:47.550 --> 00:51:48.130
him to do it.
1209
00:51:49.530 --> 00:51:51.590
You have to put that in finger quotes. He asks him.
1210
00:51:52.829 --> 00:51:55.610
He did ask him, and then he made him. But
1211
00:51:55.650 --> 00:51:57.829
he didn't tell him that he wouldn't do it. I
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don't know.
1213
00:51:58.329 --> 00:52:01.000
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, no, that is
1214
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.019
an interesting one. The Jonah one's interesting. He tells him
1215
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to do it. He does everything he can to get
1216
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.019
out of doing it, but he still ends up doing it.
1217
00:52:09.059 --> 00:52:12.590
Yeah, but it's different because he's taken. He's taken by
1218
00:52:12.610 --> 00:52:12.789
the whale.
1219
00:52:12.809 --> 00:52:14.989
I think that is a good example of free will
1220
00:52:15.230 --> 00:52:17.110
and the sovereignty of God. Like in all of his
1221
00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:19.630
free will, he's trying to get away. And in the
1222
00:52:19.650 --> 00:52:21.849
sovereignty of God, the whale comes and swallows him and
1223
00:52:21.889 --> 00:52:24.150
spits him back up on the sea. And at some
1224
00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:26.670
point in his free will, he realizes like, I guess
1225
00:52:26.710 --> 00:52:28.469
this is going to happen one way or another, dude.
1226
00:52:28.489 --> 00:52:29.690
I just spent three days in a whale.
1227
00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:32.510
But all of his free will was probably still like,
1228
00:52:32.570 --> 00:52:35.429
I ain't going there. And then God's like, no, you're
1229
00:52:35.449 --> 00:52:38.320
there now. And then moves him. Peter, that doesn't happen
1230
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.599
with him here. Peter is just, even though he's been told,
1231
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.480
that's an internal thing that he does himself. He's not
1232
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moved by a force to do a thing. That's like,
1233
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I don't know what to think of that.
1234
00:52:52.409 --> 00:52:55.340
No, I just think it's like God knows, man. Like
1235
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.559
he knows the ins and outs of Peter, dude. Like
1236
00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.659
he knows the ins and outs of him. And maybe
1237
00:52:59.739 --> 00:53:02.059
he knew this weakness, if you will, was that he
1238
00:53:02.099 --> 00:53:04.239
was going to do everything he can to stay close
1239
00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:07.130
to Jesus. Maybe that's what it was, dude. And he said,
1240
00:53:07.170 --> 00:53:09.610
for Peter to be able to stay close to me tonight,
1241
00:53:09.690 --> 00:53:10.889
he's going to have to deny me.
1242
00:53:11.949 --> 00:53:12.530
You know what I'm saying?
1243
00:53:12.570 --> 00:53:14.750
The second he says I'm with Jesus, they're like, okay,
1244
00:53:14.769 --> 00:53:15.250
arrest him.
1245
00:53:15.590 --> 00:53:16.510
Yeah. Right?
1246
00:53:16.570 --> 00:53:19.320
So maybe he knows that. Maybe he knows that. Peter's
1247
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.360
got this soft spot, if you will, that he's not
1248
00:53:21.380 --> 00:53:23.619
going to leave Jesus' side, dude. He's going to do
1249
00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:26.780
everything he can to stay close to him. And Jesus
1250
00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:29.110
knows that about him and says, well, the only way
1251
00:53:29.139 --> 00:53:30.969
he's going to be able to do that, even if
1252
00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:33.210
I tell him ahead of time, he's still not going
1253
00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:35.130
to be able to not try to stay close to me.
1254
00:53:35.690 --> 00:53:37.670
So in that, I know he's going to do this.
1255
00:53:37.730 --> 00:53:39.570
I know he's going to deny me to stay close
1256
00:53:39.590 --> 00:53:42.389
to me. I mean, that's the whole reason. That's why
1257
00:53:42.449 --> 00:53:44.639
he's there. Yeah. Well, the reason he's there is because
1258
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:46.760
he's trying to follow Jesus and stay close to him.
1259
00:53:46.780 --> 00:53:47.579
The others have left.
1260
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:49.699
It's just psychotic to even think like, do you do
1261
00:53:49.739 --> 00:53:51.119
it the first time? And then you remember like.
1262
00:53:51.139 --> 00:53:54.239
Oh, I know. But Jesus just know like, no, dude,
1263
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:55.940
he's not going to be able to stop. Like he's
1264
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:57.989
going to do everything he can to stay close to me,
1265
00:53:58.110 --> 00:54:01.670
including denying me if he has to. Wow. And that's
1266
00:54:01.690 --> 00:54:03.369
what I'm saying. That's why that look is not like
1267
00:54:03.409 --> 00:54:05.889
I told you so. Or that look is not like you, bitch.
1268
00:54:05.969 --> 00:54:08.630
He's not doing that at all. Hey, language. He's just
1269
00:54:08.690 --> 00:54:10.710
looking at him and he's being like, bro, I love you.
1270
00:54:10.989 --> 00:54:11.550
Like, it's OK.
1271
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We'll work this out.
1272
00:54:12.730 --> 00:54:12.989
Yeah.
1273
00:54:13.010 --> 00:54:16.860
Yeah. You get that with your kids, dude. Some crazy
1274
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.400
thing happens, and you have to just kind of have
1275
00:54:19.420 --> 00:54:22.380
this look with them like, hey, we'll work this out. Like,
1276
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:24.280
this is a lot, but we'll work this out.
1277
00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:27.309
Yeah, I saw that coming, though. What do you mean? Like,
1278
00:54:27.989 --> 00:54:30.210
I saw it coming, but it's not as big of
1279
00:54:30.250 --> 00:54:30.889
a deal as you think.
1280
00:54:31.289 --> 00:54:32.869
Yeah, yeah, it is like that. Yeah.
1281
00:54:32.989 --> 00:54:36.610
Yeah. All right, let's finish this up because we have
1282
00:54:36.630 --> 00:54:37.150
to get out there.
1283
00:54:37.250 --> 00:54:38.289
You're always in a hurry, dude.
1284
00:54:38.329 --> 00:54:38.869
I'm always in a hurry.
1285
00:54:38.889 --> 00:54:39.769
You're just really liking it, man.
1286
00:54:40.349 --> 00:54:42.250
Well, tune in next time.
1287
00:54:42.139 --> 00:54:44.389
We do it. I just know you weren't all efficient.
1288
00:54:44.469 --> 00:54:46.309
I don't look intended for the accuracy of the Lord.
1289
00:54:46.369 --> 00:54:47.250
He went out in the night.
1290
00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:50.090
Okay, then came the cross followed by the resurrection morning.
1291
00:54:50.139 --> 00:54:53.480
We inquire, where was Simon? And as we saw him
1292
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:55.659
in dealing with John, he had been found by him
1293
00:54:55.699 --> 00:54:58.179
and taken to his home. John took Peter to his home.
1294
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.780
There he received a message telling him of the risen Lord.
1295
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The message was given by special comment. Go tell my
1296
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disciples and Peter. It is very suggestive and very beautiful.
1297
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Would not the expression my disciples have been enough? No,
1298
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he had denied his Lord. And at least it is
1299
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possible that the disciples might be inclined to put him
1300
00:55:22.929 --> 00:55:28.760
outside their fellowship. Therefore, his Lord specially named him. I mean,
1301
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it could be that or it could just be that
1302
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Jesus is like, bro, I know what he's going through.
1303
00:55:33.420 --> 00:55:36.590
Make sure he knows his name. Like, I can only
1304
00:55:36.650 --> 00:55:39.190
imagine what Peter's going through right now. Make sure they
1305
00:55:39.230 --> 00:55:42.170
tell him, hey, bring the disciples and Peter. He's got
1306
00:55:42.190 --> 00:55:42.650
to be named.
1307
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Well, I just wonder at that point, what does it
1308
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mean to be a disciple? Like, you're learning from this guy?
1309
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Yeah, disciplined one under the discipline of whoever you're a
1310
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disciple of.
1311
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And what happens when you've... Strayed? No, when you've learned.
1312
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What happens... Does he become rock there? Like what happens when,
1313
00:56:07.820 --> 00:56:10.739
when you have learned, are you still a disciple of
1314
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that person? You could say like, you know, like people
1315
00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:15.099
will say, uh, Dave Burns, shout out Dave Burns, who
1316
00:56:15.139 --> 00:56:19.519
does all the art for us. His, uh, teacher for artwork,
1317
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the guy that did the action Bible, he refers to him.
1318
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He's like, yeah, yeah. My former teacher, like he was
1319
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my teacher. No longer is that relationship. Now they're, they're peers.
1320
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They work together in their, you know, conventions when they
1321
00:56:31.949 --> 00:56:34.369
do this stuff side by side. But this was my teacher.
1322
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Does that, is that what that means?
1323
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Like, I mean, that's a staggering thought that at first
1324
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you're even offended that you could apply that to Jesus
1325
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to say like, he was my teacher, but not now.
1326
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But then of course you think about this thing that
1327
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we're co-laborers together with him. And then in some sense
1328
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he is saying like, okay, didn't we just read where
1329
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God talked to Moses? He said, Moses, what are you
1330
00:56:52.969 --> 00:56:55.639
talking to me for? You do it. I mean, I
1331
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:58.039
don't know. Is there this offensive thing where like, of
1332
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course he's always our teacher forever. Amen. But it's like
1333
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offensive to say otherwise. But at some point he says like, hey,
1334
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you're like you're pretty up in the game now. Like,
1335
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let's go.
1336
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That's why I was asking at the top of the show,
1337
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like Peter is sort of the guy with the other apostles.
1338
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I don't know. That's just how I always read it
1339
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or saw it. Like it was like Peter and these
1340
00:57:19.219 --> 00:57:22.480
other guys are kind of. I don't know. He's the
1341
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guy that's leading the charge.
1342
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You always think he's the main one?
1343
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I don't know why.
1344
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:26.760
I never thought that.
1345
00:57:26.780 --> 00:57:28.809
You never thought that? He just seems like the guy
1346
00:57:28.829 --> 00:57:30.030
that's always out there. Yeah.
1347
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He's the guy who's maybe the biggest personality. So he's
1348
00:57:32.730 --> 00:57:34.949
getting the most, you know, he's being written about the most.
1349
00:57:34.989 --> 00:57:38.070
And at G. Campbell Morgan's point, he asked the most questions, right?
1350
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Like he's the most intuitive. Like he's the most, he's
1351
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the most engaged in it for whatever reason. I don't know.
1352
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But I don't, I just, I don't know that like
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it puts any higher or lower importance on any of
1354
00:57:50.630 --> 00:57:53.070
the disciples, man. I think that's the unique thing about
1355
00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:54.969
this book, that it's kind of showing of like, yeah,
1356
00:57:55.070 --> 00:57:58.570
Andrew was this real quiet guy and very little said
1357
00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:01.530
about him and very little of him speaking, but he
1358
00:58:01.570 --> 00:58:04.679
had his role. If there's no Andrew, there's no Peter,
1359
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you could say. He's the one who goes and finds Peter.
1360
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So it's like, well, in the end, everybody's got their role, man.
1361
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:12.500
Again, I'm not trying to say one is more important
1362
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than the other, but there is a.
1363
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A hierarchy of things.
1364
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Yeah, like he calls Peter, James, and John with him
1365
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to go do stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
1366
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I don't know.
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That might be a stupid thought.
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But they all play their role. Like, in the end,
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we all play our role. Further, we gather that he
1370
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had a private interview with Peter. For when the two
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came back from Emmaus, the disciples said, The Lord is
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risen indeed and has appeared unto Simon. We have no
1373
00:58:38.389 --> 00:58:41.670
account of that interview. We do not know exactly what
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was said. And yet we are sure that it was
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an interview in which there was complete forgiveness and perfect restoration.
1376
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We can reverently almost imagine him saying to him, Simon,
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in spite of your protest, I have been to the cross.
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And as I told you, I am alive from the dead,
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victorious over sin and death. Because of that, your sin
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is forgiven and the fulfillment of your life is possible.
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I love that. Once more, he met him by Tiberius,
1382
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challenged him concerning his devotionalism. and his love and gave
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him his work to do. If we desire to know
1384
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the issue, this is where we're wrapping it up right here.
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If we desire to know the issue, we glance on
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the Pentecost and there we see this man unified, consistent,
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all the elements of his personality welded into consistency and
1388
00:59:26.690 --> 00:59:29.619
his loyalty to Christ. Like you could say that the
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00:59:29.659 --> 00:59:32.199
baptism of the Holy Spirit is what did that, right?
1390
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That brought all his unified parts together, brought all his
1391
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parts that were not unified and unified them. We observe
1392
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.570
his courage as he faced the crowd and are amazed
1393
00:59:43.619 --> 00:59:45.809
at the clarity with which he sets forth the facts
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concerning his Lord, because that does go hard, the Sermon
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of Peter on the day of Pentecost. Further on, we
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have glimpses of him, and we find that while the
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principle was at work bringing in the rock nature of
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There were still evidences of the old weakness. Paul had
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to withstand him once to the face. But there was
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that in him which was submissive. And in one of
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01:00:05.900 --> 01:00:08.500
his letters, he referred to Paul as our beloved brother.
1402
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.739
Yeah, that's like the formation or the solidification of Peter.
1403
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.179
Because earlier, I don't think Peter would have been receptive
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01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.739
to somebody telling him, stand down on this. Right. I
1405
01:00:18.780 --> 01:00:21.909
think because he's in the leadership role. But that's also
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01:00:21.949 --> 01:00:24.880
his personality. Right. I don't know. I don't know.
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01:00:24.940 --> 01:00:26.719
But with Paul, yeah, he talks about him as our
1408
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.579
beloved brother. And he talks about his writings as scripture
1409
01:00:29.619 --> 01:00:32.059
because he says that like people wrestle with these writings
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01:00:32.099 --> 01:00:34.099
of Paul as they do the other scriptures.
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It's funny, right? Like as he becomes the rock, he
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01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.980
becomes his disposition becomes softer in a way.
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01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.280
Amen. That's what I'm saying, dude. Like in our mindset,
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01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.750
like the guy who's right is the guy who never
1415
01:00:46.849 --> 01:00:49.690
asked questions and is never humble enough to act like
1416
01:00:49.730 --> 01:00:52.340
he could be wrong. Like, like in our culture, that's
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01:00:52.380 --> 01:00:54.420
what we assume is right. If the guy says, no, no, no,
1418
01:00:54.500 --> 01:00:57.300
it's this. No, no, no. It's that. But like, as
1419
01:00:57.340 --> 01:01:00.099
you study out scripture, it's like people, people become humble.
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01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.599
Like the closer they get to God, the more they
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01:01:02.619 --> 01:01:04.960
realize how mysterious the whole game is, dude. The game
1422
01:01:05.019 --> 01:01:08.079
is very, very mysterious and people who act like it's
1423
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.659
not mysterious and they have it all figured out. It
1424
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:12.599
just kind of makes you feel like, man, you still
1425
01:01:12.619 --> 01:01:14.420
got a way to go. Like you, like you haven't
1426
01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:16.539
gotten to the stage yet where you go, whoa, like
1427
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:19.199
all this stuff is so mysterious. All this stuff is
1428
01:01:19.300 --> 01:01:21.699
way more complex than I thought. Because sometimes people will
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01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.320
be lower than you. But by your saying that, no,
1430
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.119
I don't understand. This is very mysterious. They're saying, oh,
1431
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.139
he's a lot lower than me. He hasn't figured this
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out yet. But in fact, that guy's a couple levels up.
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He's gotten past where you're at. And he's gotten to
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the point where he goes, none of this stuff looks
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like how I would have thought this would have been done.
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And then you get to that point and then you go.
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And that's okay. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. There's great comfort in that. There's great comfort in
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being like, I don't have to know all the things.
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I don't have to win the debates. I don't have
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to hold some specific doctrine. I guess if I go
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to cemetery school and start a 501c3 church, then I
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do have to be right about all these things because
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I'm the leader. I have to have all the answers.
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But just to be in the body of Christ, just
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to be one of the members of the body of Christ,
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you just humbly play your part, man. You just say, God,
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I'm here for whatever role you want me to play.
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Mm-hmm.
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So I don't have to be right about everything. And
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the more I read the Bible and the more I
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look at my own life and the way you structured
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my own life, it's very mysterious. It's, I don't know
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what you're going to do next. I don't know what
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you're going to do next in my life personally. And
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I don't know what you're going to do next in
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regards to your kingdom. And you know, when you come
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back and all the things that have to happen for that,
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I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It's very mysterious.
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Paul had to withstand him once to the face, but
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there was that in him, which was submissive.
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And in one of his letters, he.
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Referred to Paul as our beloved brother. As we see
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him in these varied other glimpses, we observe a man
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of untiring energy, of unbending loyalty, an intellect supremely illuminated,
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an emotion completely yielded to his Lord, and a will
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that bore him onward in the pathway of fellowship.
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I like these series because they're not, it's not doctrine.
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It's a deep dive into these people, the the mind, well,
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I guess the mind of Jesus, how he deals with them.
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And then Tozer obviously is like a whole nother thing
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that we're dealing with, but it's never telling, it's not like,
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I never come away from this saying like, I need
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to think this, or it's forming my doctrine this way.
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But I come away from it going like, oh, I
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have like, I have a lot more questions now than
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I had previously.
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Amen. Yeah. Because all this is pertaining to life. This
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isn't pertaining to like intellect and proving out this scripture
1480
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means that, or that scripture means this. It doesn't, it's
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01:03:40.090 --> 01:03:41.789
never comes down to that. It comes down to like,
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this is life.
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Right.
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And that's what we're always talking about. Like, I hope
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that is like the testimony of whatever straight Bible is
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01:03:48.130 --> 01:03:50.409
or whatever straight Bible becomes. It's like, it's talking to
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people about life, a life in God, a life in
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01:03:52.809 --> 01:03:56.300
knowing God, a life of surrendering and submitting to God. Right.
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That's what all, that's what these OGs are talking about, man.
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They're talking about life and how do you live this?
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Thank you.