Mornings with Graeme Goodings - 3 June 2025

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday, this June the third. We hope you find you well. Lot's happening on the show today, including your calls, your insight on what is happening in our town, our city, state, our nation. Well. I was listening to the premiere on with David and Wilness morning on five DOAA Breakfast. He was announcing the government is going to invest more than eight million dollars to begin preparations for Adelaide to play home john of the world's biggest events, COP thirty one, the Climate Change Conference, and now the federal government has selected Adelaide as it's preferred city to host the United Dations event should Australia's national bid for the conference be successful. This is what the Premier had to say when he was talking to David and wild this morning about winning the bid to host the COP thirty one conference and the money allocated for it.
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Speaker 2: That money is allocated in the next financial year. So obviously when you're hosting, people need to appreciate the size on an the scale of COP. I'm not too sure the SATA sharing community broadly appreciates just how big this thing is. It will basically at the moment globally in terms of major event, you've got the Olympics and then arguably you know this almost comes next.
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Speaker 1: We're talking you know, thirty forty thousand plus visitors.
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Speaker 2: You know, many of whom are you know, high profile, significant, dignitary. So there will be a lot of preparation that is required for it. Now we haven't yet got it. Of course, you know there's a there's a bidding war between wants. Our bidding water is a competition between Australa and Turkey at the moment.
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Speaker 1: So analysis found hosting the event would deliver a potential benefit to South Pastoia of five hundred and eleven point six million dollars. And there it is. If Peter Malinowskis was being totally frank, he would admit, this is all of our generating revenue for the state and little about climate change. Sure we can highlight a relentless push to become one hundred percent renewable when it comes to our power, but southas Statia continues to allow oil and gas exploration, Statia is a major supplier of coal and gas to the world. And you don't think the blow torch will come on from copp attendees for US to do better a COP conference in Adelaide, the irony is difficult to ignore a summit aimed at curbing global emissions that would bring thirty thousand visitors from around the world to South Australia, many arriving on carbon spewing private jets. Past COP conferences have painted oblique picture of this contradiction. At COP twenty seven in Egypt, an estimated three hundred and fifteen private jet journeys were logged. Despite fewer global leaders attending private jets, which produce up to ten times more CO two per passenger than commercial flights. There become symbols of the elite hypocrisy embedded in climate diplomacy. While world leaders and celebrities preach about reducing emissions, their own modes of transport tell a different story. From Jeff Bezos to Prince Charles Boris Johnson, the climate elite continue to fly private, often to deliver speeches, urging the rest of the world to cut back. In that context, the idea of South Australia, a state profoundly fled its renewable credentials, hosting such an event becomes a paradox. It's a state seeking to lead on climate action while simultaneously inviting thousands to fly across the globe, pumping out ambitions in the process. They could do it on Zoom.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: Even Premier Peter Malanaskis, who boasted that there is no bigger event on the planet outside of the Olympics than COP, seems more focused on the projected five hundred million dollar economic benefit than on the environmental cost. So bring on COP thirty one. Bring it on, but let's see it for what it is. It's a huge boost to the economy and not essay in the Australia setting the standard for a cleaner environment. What are your thoughts eight double two three double o, doublo. I'd love to hear them. Also on the show today, some interesting events regarding our electricity in the future of this state. Electricity demand is tipped to reach levels unimaginable only a few years ago. It's driven by rapid growth in mining, desalination, data centers and green steel production. It sounds very, very good on the surface. The economy is building, there's renewed confidence in the state, but can we handle the dramatic growth electronet is the state's high voltage transmission operator and we'll speak with the head of Electronet this morning about that. Well, I see another politician has decided to change parties. Three years after being elected as a Green senator, Western Australian Green Senator Derinda Cox has made a bombshell defection to the Labor Party. In a shop joint news conference alongside Anthony Albanesi in Perth, the Prime Minister said he was approached by Senator Cox, who was previously a Labor Party member, to represent Labor in the Senate. And we'll talk to emeritus Professor Clem McIntyre about all aspects of politicians changing their spots. What do you think about that? Do you think it's reasonable that someone who goes to an election and doesn't matter if it's a Labor member or a candidate for the Liberal Party or the Greens, and then once elected, Oh, I think I might jump ship. I think I'll move over.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but if I elected somebody, I might account be an account that I like their personality. I believe they can do the right thing, but they are under the banner of a particular party. Then they get into power. Oh, I'll look around. I think I can do better elsewhere. I mean, it just goes against the whole principle of the value of your vote. And for the next three years you've got to the person that you voted for may not be professing the principles and beliefs and the policies that you want them to. So we'll have a chat with the Professor Clem McIntyre about that. Our farmers are hanging tough in the face of the toughest strout on record. Southern Strata's agriculture industry is worth seventeen point one billion dollars according to the state's latest figures. Now we're going to talk about this yesterday, but the Prime Minister coming to town made that a little difficult because all our primary industry leaders were attending his conference. The State Primary Industries two twenty five report highlighted the value of eight point six billion dollars in overseas straight forty nine percent of total merchandise exports. The agribusiness was worth seven point nine billion dollars. Big numbers in the light in the face of the drought, and I think it's fair to say the farmers are doing a great job under adverse conditions. Australians on the minimum wage are set to receive a pay increase. Today is the day Australia's top union boss is urging the body to boost annual full time pay by two one hundred and forty three dollars. Will that be the figure arrived upon? An expert panel will hand down its decision in Sydney this morning, and as soon as that decision is announced, we'll hear from nine Radio Federal politics reporter at Zak DeSilva on what it all means. Something that is rather disturbing public doctors are set to strike thereafter a pay rise. They've had their negotiations with the government grind to a hold and they've set the date of June twenty five to cause or I think there's about three thousand of them are going to walk off the job for an hour to discuss further industrial action. We'll speak with SASMO Chief Industrial Officer Bernadette Mulholland about that, all that and much more and your calls love to hear from him. Eight double two three double O, double oh back shortly.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen past nine five Double A former mp Mark Brundles called in Mark, you've got some thoughts on COP thirty one.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I've also got some thoughts on your creative team. That add about doing the last thing first is very clever. You've got to give it. You've got to give it to some of your advertises. I wondered what you're going to come out with, so was I. It's an exciting job. Look what I was thinking. There's a fairly simple way I think to solve this week. We control the airspace and the landing slots in you know, in our sovereign territory. It would be easy to have Cop here, make the money and just say to people like his majesty, even if he comes, sorry but no charter jets will be allowed to land a d Adelaide airport. You want to come come commercial?
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Speaker 6: Ah.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how well that had to go over.
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Speaker 4: Well, Graham probably won't. But some of those people would be exposed for real hypocrisy if they turned around and said, oh, we want to go to COP, but only if we can throve by in our own, you know, fuel guzzling private jet. We're not prepared to come on a commercial airliner. That'd be the ones to be embarrassed, and we'd be the ones sticking up for a principle, which is let's try and cut the pollution down.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Mark Brindle on Cop thirty one, What are your thoughts? Eight? Double two to three double oh is the number? Well, very positive news, many industries showing confidence in southa Strata and electricity demand in our state is projected to reach levels unimaginable only a few years ago, driven by rapid growth in mining, desalination, data centers and green steel production. But sounds very good on the surface, but Electronet has sounded some warnings. Joining us from Electronet is CEO Simon MS Simon, Good morning to you, Morning gram. Now, firstly put us in the picture. What is Electronet's role in power production in southa Stratia.
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Speaker 6: So Electionroet is South Australia's transmission network service provider. So we do the We transport the power from large wind farms to the load centers in Adelaide. So where in simplistic terms, where the poles and wires that you see in the country, not the ones you see in the streets. That's say power networks.
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Speaker 1: So the good news is that people want to come here and invest here, but you have sounded a warning.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for us to build the infrastructure so that it's ready for the users of the infrastructure, we have to do a cost benefit analysis and the benefits have to include the right level of the forecast and the way the forecast is done at the moment, and I will not it.
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Speaker 1: Is under review.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't allow us to capture the load that we think is coming. So if it's not, if we can't capture that load in the benefit, we can't justify the project. So the infrastructure doesn't get built in time for the load, which probably means the load doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: So what are we saying here that there's red tape in the way of the progress.
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Speaker 6: Look, there's a very we've got to make sure that all these projects do pass the cost benefit analysis. What all we're saying is we've just got to make sure that is the right level, the right data is in the forecast. And so where we're calling for changes in the way the forecasting is done to capture what we're seeing in South Australia.
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Speaker 1: And that is done at a federal government level.
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Speaker 6: The forecast is done by the austrained Energy market operator or known as a EMO.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So are you comfortable with the way that they are operating at the moment?
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Speaker 6: Oh? Look, you know we're working with them closely and updating. You know, we are involved with them to update their forecasting methodology. But I think you have to remember South Australia we shut out our plant, our qualified power plant down in twenty sixteen. It's almost ten years ago. So we're in a completely different state, no pun intended, than the Eastern States where they haven't shut down their cop So as we approach one hundred percent net renewables, we're seeing this level of interest in connecting to our network that we haven't seen before. So we are in a different sort of situation than the Eastern States, and we are leading Australia in this progression to one hundred percent renewables. So we're just saying we're seeing things that other states haven't seen yet. So you need to update your planning for the methodology to actually reflect what we're seeing, not what some of the other states haven't seen yet.
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Speaker 1: So what is Southastralia's current network capacity and what does it need to be.
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Speaker 6: So we build a network to deliver a maximum capacity, which typically happens on a weekday during a heat wave because everyone has got their air conon. So our peak demand that we've seen in the system is just over three thousand megawats. Our average demand, because we don't run our air conditioners all the time, is about thirteen hundred megawats, and we're forecasting an additional thirteen hundred megawatts of load over the next ten years, so almost the doubling of the average and utilization of the network.
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Speaker 1: So obviously we need lots more polls and wires. Who ends up paying for that?
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Speaker 6: So before we can build anything the customers, we have to go through a rigorous process called a rip TEA, which is the regulatory investment test for transmission, to show that the benefits outweigh the cost to the customers. Then anything dedicated to a wind farm connection or a large load itself, the proponents pay for that, But the costs of the backbone of the network they go on your electricity bills.
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Speaker 1: And there's the rub people listening in now and sort of say, hang on, we're already paying the highest power prices in all stratia. Can we expect to even pay greater prices into the future.
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Speaker 6: Well, the investment tests will only be passed if we can show that the and this is independently checked, so it's not just sort of us marking our own homework. It only proceeds if we can demonstrate it's in the customer's best interest.
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Speaker 1: So on the surface, this seems very positive with industries scaling up projects wanting to get into so the data because of what we have to offer. But you're virtually saying there is a roadblock unless we can get the transmission wires up and running.
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Speaker 6: If things don't change, you know, there's a roadblock. But we're working very closely with our EMO, and we've highlighted this in our transmission and your planning report that was released today. But we do need some changes and we're working with AMO to actually implement those changes.
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Speaker 1: I would have thought you'd be getting plenty of support from the state government.
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Speaker 6: I think the state government are obviously very supportive of anything that improves or has a positive economic benefits for South Australia. But likewise, like all of us, they're very cognizant as you've brought up that we can't overbuild a network. We don't want to build it early.
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Speaker 7: We just have to.
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Speaker 6: Build the minimum viable product to get these projects up because you know there is a you know, the mums and dads.
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Speaker 8: Do do foot the bill for this.
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Speaker 1: Simon M's Electronet CEO, thanks so much for your time today on a guarded reason to be positive. In fact, well it is positive news. Many industries showing a lot of confidence in South Australia, driven by rapid growth in mining, desalination, data centers, green steel production. But there is there is a pause there that Electronet say, more has to be done in terms of the coordination between industry wanting to come in and then being able to put up the poles and wires to provide the power that they will need. Eight double two to three double double O is the number ring from the text line GG. The whole energy or green energy scheme is one ideological scam. GG. The election proved your daily rant against renewables is a complete waste of energy. Thank you for that, Kerry. I'm not against renewables. I'm all for renewables. I think they're fantastic and it's the way of the future. The transition is what scares me and worries me. Is that we want to get to one hundred percent renewables. If we could be there, wonderful, providing regular, reliable baseload power with renewables beautiful. I'm all for it. But there's that bridging gap, is what though we're facing at the moment that when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing and the batteries don't quite cut it at this stage, we have some issues. So well, I'm not against renewables on at all, Adam says High Graham. Don't want these globalists anywhere near Adelaida or Australia for that matter. They have done enough damage. At least we will be able to see who not to vote for next election, anyone that is forcing us to listen to these hypocrites. Good on you, Adam back shorty five double A.
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Speaker 5: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten five double A on this Tuesday morning. Hope we find you well well. Another politician has decided to change parties. Three years after being elected as a Green Senator, Western Australian Green's Derenda Cox has made a bombshell affection to the Labor Party. In a Shock News joint news conference with the Prime Minister Anthony Albanzi.
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Speaker 9: Today, I'm resigning from the Australian Greens to join the Labor Party to sit as a later senator as part of the Albanese government. It is not a decision I've taken lightly, as Senator Cox has just said she wants to be part of a team that's delivering progress for this country.
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Speaker 1: Well, she was voted to be a Green senator. People said, we like the Green's policies, we like Drinda as a Green and she gets into power. Well, she's been in power for a few years. Admittedly, Now she wants to become a Labor politician. Maybe there are greener pastures in the Labor camp anyway, I'd like to know your thoughts on that. Do you think it's fair and reasonable for someone jumping ship midterm? Is there any law against it? Are they able to do it? Well, obviously they are because it happens more and more frequently. Joining us now, Emeritus Professor Clem McIntyre, University of Adelaide, Clem, good morning to you, Good morning Graham. This doesn't sit well with me. Do you think it's fair and reasonable?
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Speaker 3: No? I agree, doesn't sit well with me either, and it does seem very unfair, and parties that work very hard to get people elected to infinitely frustrated when somebody they have effectively put into the Parliament. I don't think anyone pretends that senators are elected. Most senators are elected on their own name, it's their party affiliation. There's a few excepts to that. So when the party works very hard to get somebody into parliament and then that person just walks away, it's a source of immense frustration. But having said that, there's very little that can be done to stop it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think anyone that voted for derenda Cox would feel disenfranchised. They would sort of feel like, you know, obviously they're passionate, they're Green support, or maybe they're not. Maybe they're totally indifferent and they don't care. But those that do care, and we're singling out someone here in the Greens Party. But it's happened pretty much. I think with all parties that someone has just decided to move on and is poor elector electorate well frustrated.
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Speaker 3: You're right. During the Cox was she filed a casual vacancy in the Senate. Originally was elected in twenty twenty two at the half Senate election for West Australia in twenty twenty two. So she's sitting there as somebody that the voters of Western Australia chose as a Green candidate, and now you know the Green's life as one member and Labor gain one. And as I say, it's immensely frustrating for those who work very hard in political and as members of parties to get people elected, giving out out of vote guards and going to meetings and lobbying and all those sorts of things. But as I said, the dilemma is under the system we have, people are even though they're elected with the party label, they're elected in their own right. So it's her seat, not the Green seat. And you can say you could try, I'm not sure that constitutionally you'd be able to do it, to say that if you change party, you forfeit your seat or something like that. It's very difficult in the Senate because it's a proportionally elected Sisaman. It's not like single member constituencies in the lower House where if somebody leaves we have a by election. In the Senate, because it's proportional, you can't just have a by election to fill one seat. And if you said to somebody, if it was possible to have a law saying if you change your party, you lose your seat, well, people wouldn't formally change parties, but their behavior would be just the same. I mean, if you were a member of a political party and we said you can't leave, it wouldn't mean that you have to vote with us every time. It wouldn't mean you have to be collaborative and work with us. You'd be your own person, and you probably wouldn't want the person sitting at the party room if they'd said I don't want to be here anymore.
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Speaker 1: It sounds a pretty imperfect system.
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Speaker 3: Well it isn't.
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Speaker 4: It isn't.
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Speaker 3: As I say, in theory, we elect people as individuals. Now, I appreciate that when it comes to picking up the pencil in the polling station on the Saturday of elections, we don't often look at the names of the senator's careful in scratch ahead and think is this a person I want there? We look for a party. But in theory, we are electing the individual to represent the state in the Senate. And I suppose if there's any comeback point you might say, well, maybe the Greens just didn't work hard enough pre selecting a candidate that was going to remain loyal to them, and they need to do a bit more, and not just the Greens. Ow that Labors lost senators. We saw a One Nation member of the state upper house leave that party recently. At the end of the day, the parties choose who their candidates are and they have to live with the consequences of those decisions.
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Speaker 10: So it.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't sit well, it's very frustrating, but within the system we've got, it's something we can't really stop.
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Speaker 1: When we're talking about the Senate, you say there's not a by election because the way the Senate operates, But let's go to the lower house, both the federally and locally. A lot of people get very upset. And we had the case here where we had the Premier of the state, Stephen Marshall, or ran as for the the election was defeated and a short term into his term he decided to leave. A lot of people should say, we voted for you to serve the full term. How do you feel about that?
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Speaker 3: Well, again, I understand that frustration, and I don't like seeing that. I think if you stand as a candidate, I mean, obviously illness would change things. Sure, you're capable of sitting there. I think the expectations should be that you should. So I don't like seeing it. But again, can we force Stephen Marshall to turn up to another members? I'm not just picking on Stephen Marshall if they don't want to be there. In the State Parliament, the rules say if you missed twelve sitting days without leave of absence, you forfeit your seat. Well, if you weren't allowed to walk away, you just sit at home and you'd eventually forfeit your seat and would have a by election anyway.
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Speaker 1: So some people have suggested if somebody decided an illness or some sort of personal issues they need to step down. That's understandable. But if they just look on, had an off and moving on, if they had to pay some what into the fund because by elections aren't cheap, the bi elections are very expense, so they pay for them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we could look into that. It's a relatively if they're not cheap individually, but in the overall balance of things, it's a relatively cheap way of running a democracy. But again, what are we going to do. As I say we want MPs to be in parliament, the state requires that they not miss more than twelve sitting days. I might just stay away for any excuse and then and then you're going to force me to pay for the by election when you've expelled me from the Parliament. Now I might have brought that on myself, but you can see we're dancing around on the head of the pin in terms of the arguments here. Or you know, you turn up one day in twelve and do nothing and sit there for five minutes and walk out again, and that's abusing the system. So in a sense, if someone doesn't want to be there, it's probably better that they do go. We could look at some sort of compensation for by election costs for the lower House, that's true, but I'm not sure that's going to change all that much at the end of the day. And for the last something is we've been running the system with bi elections that come on when there are casual vacancies like that, So.
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Speaker 1: We'll just have to live with it at the moment.
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Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where where none of us like it, particularly when members change party halfway through. But while we have a representative democracy, were we're electing individuals who happen to have party affiliations. That's one of the consequences we have to live with.
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Speaker 1: I think Graham claim always good to chat. Thanks for your time today, Thanks so much, Bye, Emeritus Professor Clem McIntyre, University of Adelaide. On politicians changing parties, stepping down, What are your thoughts? Is there anyone that we don't rate politicians all that highly? And in fact, the most recent poll of professions ranked highly. Where do you think politicians rate? Who do you think rates the highest? Well, I can tell you doctors right at the top fifty eight percent, followed by scientists at fifty six percent, teachers at fifty four percent. Then it starts to fall away and we go a long way down before we get to politicians. And we might talk about that a little bit later on. But tell us who do you rank as the most significant the most trustworthy of the professions, Who are the most trustworthy, who are the least trustworthy? And where would you rank politicians? Like to know your thoughts well. The Affair Work Commission has just hand it on its minimum wage decision. Here it is.
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Speaker 11: The decision we have made in this year's annual wage of view is to increase the national minimum wage and all modern award minimum wages by three point five percent, effective from one July twenty twenty five. The principal consideration which has guided our decision is a fact that since July twenty twenty one, employees who are reliant upon modern award minimum wages or the National minimum wage have suffered a reduction in the real value of their wage rates.
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Speaker 1: So that's the decision of the Fair Work Commission. And we'll have a chat a little bit later on with nine radio's federal politics reporters Zactor Silver on exactly what that means. Before the break, let's take a call John at Soberton Someonton Park today.
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Speaker 12: John Good, agree to trust worthy professions are funeral directors or some of them anyways, are fairly directors for over one hundred and seven years, always try to do the right thing. But anyway, relither of that business of Stephen Marshall leaving. Yeah, what would what's wrong with the next person who's put those boats?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's sort of all that would certainly would sort of out.
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Speaker 12: But at the.
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Speaker 1: Moment having a totally new by election and spending. I don't know what it is. It's about half a million dollars or something like that to conduct a by election.
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Speaker 12: No, why yeah, next person that'll make sure that he's not very well thought of Liberal Party will mate.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Johnia, thanks for that. So what do you think about next person up? If you came second in the election and the person who won the seat steps aside, you step up, that's not a bad thought. What do you think? Eight double two three double oh? Well, shortly, we have tickets to give away to five double a's Best of essay about celebrating and profiling some of the great brands in our state. And today we're celebrating rest Haven for your chance to win the Charlesworth Hamper and rest Haven eighty five years book and two tickets to our best of SA dinner Friday the twentieth of June at Adelaide Oval. Give us a call right now eight double two three double oh double five third caller wins rest Haven proudly supporting older South of stadents for over ninety years. You'll welcome the care that rest Haven brings. Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings twelve to ten and five double A on this Tuesday morning. Certainly hope we find you well well. Adelaide Anti Vankser Reina Cruz, who scalped a pregnant police officer and a horrifying attack, has we jailed after prosecutors won their bid to have a controversial sentence overturned. Reyna Cruz was sentenced to three years and nine months in prison for a twenty twenty one assauld on a pregnant police officer, Anthony Beck. Beck had clumps of hair and scalp torn from her head during the drunken attack, which was all captured on police body cam. This is what the Police Association president Wade Burns had to say.
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Speaker 13: There's a clear need for courts to protect police officers when we're pursuing our duties, and I think yesterday's result is one for all the law abiding people of say and certainly the police officers who protect them. In twenty nineteen, we led the charge and actually had legislative provisions changed to increase the penalties, but it's really for the judiciary to implement that, and certainly last December when that initial suspended sentence was handed down, I immediately caught upon the DPP to appeal on the basis that it was manifestly inappropriate and certainly that initial sentence in last December it was effectively a kick in the teeth direct from the judicial system to police officers and really just showed a rotten lack of respect and support for the job we do.
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Speaker 7: The job of a police.
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Speaker 13: Officer is really difficult and can be dangerous. When it's shown on the media consistently that assaults on police have increased, and certainly the nature of those assaults, I think it would really cause people to question whether they want to join policing.
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Speaker 1: That's the Police Association President Wade Burns talking on the Rayner Cruz case with David and Will on five Double A this morning. Joining me and ow is Michael O'Connell, the Victims of Crime Advocate. Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 14: To you, come on and Graham come only to listeners.
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Speaker 1: Justice has finally been done well.
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Speaker 14: I think it's important. I've only in terms of justice for the victim herself and more broadly the police, but also for the community at large. No one in a position of emergency responder, whether it be a police officer, an ambulance attendant or other. It goes to work expecting to be assaulted. They go to work to do the right thing, which is to look after those people that were in need and to ensure those people who break the law apprehended and dealt with. I think this sentence reinforces were both to Parliament, the police and others have called forth for some time.
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Speaker 1: It does seem quite amazing though, that it had to be appealed because the original finding, the ruling of the court was manifestly inadequate.
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Speaker 14: Well, that's one of the benefits of our justice system. The initial hearing is before a single judge usually or in some cases that have heard what are called summarily before a magistrate alone. But we have a process that allows for her to be a safeguard, a check and balance where some other people can scrutinize those decisions made by an individual and take into account a whole range of factors that were either presented or possibly even misunderstood or misinterpreted by a lower coord One of the things we have to bear in mind is that this is in each way things that sometimes people who have been found guilty had their sentences reduced in this case, we're celebrating the fate that the appeal court actually heard the evidence and importantly took into account the harm that was done. Parliament has reiterated since it introduced the revised sentince the eighteen twenty seventeen but the harm that is done to the victim must be a factor considered by the court in sentencing, and the sentence should reflect in some way in terms of proportionality that harm, and I think in this case that's been achieved through this appeal.
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Speaker 1: Process, Michael, if I can get your thoughts. On another matter, two people were charged after three people were rushed to hospital with stab winds yesterday finding a violent alleged machete fight inside a hotel and Adled's see. The police say at least seven people are involved in the incident. What are your thoughts when it comes to knives and machetes.
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Speaker 14: Well, it's incomprehensible to me that any person in a public place needs to be carrying a machete. They are a weapon in a public place, But in the certain circumstances, such as in a rural era, in a farm where you haven't clear away vegetation, et cetera, they are at all, I'm of the view that we should be banning all forms of machete and like style knives to be carried in public places. And I'm pleased that at least in a month or those time, our law in Australia will be extended to cover those people who are carrying weapons such as machetes and public places for an unlawful purpose. And we have to be balanced in how we approach this because there are some people with legitimate reasons. I still, as I said, I find incomprehensible that anyone needs to carry a knife, for a machete or any like device for the pure purpose of protecting themselves or taking another person, which seems to be the motivation behind when there are these knife fortakes that we've seen in our state and the elsewear.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid you're right. Michael Connell, Victims of Crime Advocate, Thanks so much for your time today. This is what claim mar the Attorney General, had to say about where we're at with machetes.
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Speaker 15: As it currently stands today, machetes would be regarded as an offensive weapon in South Australia. They have one in the shopping center or in the center of adelaide. You have no reason to do that, so you'd already be facing after six months in jail. But I think I've talked to you on the program previously grown about laws that have now passed with Status fra Imparliament that are the toughest nice laws, and you are in the country as part of that. I think the date we're working towards is August first, to have machetes reclassified not as an offensive weapon but as a prohibited weapon. Themes of manufactured, selling, supply, dealing with all possession would be for offense up to two years in jail.
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Speaker 1: And that's so what the Attorney General kai Ma had to say to us last week. Commenting also this morning though a Police Association president Wade Burns, as.
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Speaker 13: You would see the knife laws and machete laws, there's a lot of interest in that at the moment. Certainly anything that can tighten up the production, manufacturer, sale and possession of those. It's not only in the interest of our members but also in the interest of community safety as a whole.
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Speaker 1: And the Premier Peter Melanaskaz was on with David and Will this morning. It comes out of Victoria. One of the few sensible things that Victorian government has done for a while. Love been machetes.
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Speaker 5: Why haven't we been machee.
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Speaker 1: We are, we are, we have.
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Speaker 2: In fact, we've passed legislation through the Parliament. We're working with Stapol about when it comes into effects. So machetes become a prohibited well they get classified as a prohibited weapon. So that doesn't mean just not allowed to possess it. It also means that you can't sell it, you can't produce it, can't manufact at all in the state of South Australia. So that and then if you breach that, of course it becomes punishable by a more severe offense. So we are acting aggressively on machetes. We've got the toughest sniff laws in the country. It only passed the Parliament in recent weeks. But there has to be an implementation period and that's done in conjunction with South Australian Police and so there's a regultary process has to go through. The events that we saw terribly yesterday demonstrate.
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Speaker 1: Why we're doing it. And that's the premiere on the knife and machete law is coming up. It's five minutes to ten on five double A. Coming up after ten, we'll take a look at just how well the state is doing in spite of the terrible drought. The rural industry is certainly keeping up its end of the bargain, not generating quite as much revenue as in past years, but still right up there. A little bit later on, one in three men report using intimate partner violence. This is quite disturbient and quite unbelievable, but with the level of domestic violence in this country, probably not too so. As I said earlier, we'll hear more about the Fair Work Commission's annual minimum wage review. And I've got to tell you that congratulations to Michelle Para Hills. You've won a Charles Worth hamper a rest Haven eighty five years book and two tickets to are Best of SA dinner Friday, the twentieth of June at Adelaide Oval, Rest Haven proudly supporting older southas Stradians for over ninety years. You're welcome, You'll welcome the care that rest Haven brings. I want to know who you think is the most trustworthy when it comes to the professions. It came about talking about politicians changing parties, and they don't rank all that, Well, I can tell you that doctors rank right up at the top, teachers rank pretty highly, and then it descends. I won't tell you where journalists rank. Well maybe I will, maybe a little bit later on. But tell us who you think is the most trusted profession, Who is the least trusted profession? Where to TV news anchors and television news readers rank? Where to Polster's poll? What about taxi drivers? What about journalists? What about bankers? It's interesting, isn't it. Where and you're listening now thinking is that me? Where do I fit in the scheme of things? But politicians, well, I tell you what I can without giving it away. They're closer to the very very bottom than the very very top, very much closer to the bottom. In fact, I think I can tell you they are at the bottom. Are we surprised when our politicians the way they get away with not telling the truth, particularly at the federal level. They can go into an election and make any claims and promises they like and be proven to be totally wrong, and they get away with it. And yet if you're a private company and make those claims like Samsung, Samsung claimed that their phones could be safe if immersed in water at a certain level. Turned out they were wrong, fourteen million dollar fine. But a politician can say we will promise you this and never deliver and they get off scot free. Now Southastrata is a little different. We've had rules regarding truth in advertising and affecting politicians for forty years, but the rest of Australia and the federal level it doesn't exist. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings seven past ten to five Double A. Heard Kendall say in the news that Glenn Maxwell is retiring from ODI eyes frustrating. Cricket great, absolutely great to watch, but times you sort of thought, Glen, you're better than that. But when he turned it on, he was absolutely spectacular. His heroics make you think of some of the great sporting achievements over time. Let's know, if you have a great sporting achievement that will live on in your mind, this is Glenn Maxwell's I reckon.
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Speaker 16: My classible than you're probably ever seeing cricket staggering, it's so like one going, it's good one and he should not have to walk off the if he should be tearried off. What a performance?
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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, it was what a performance. So it brings to mind the greatest individual sporting performances that you've ever seen or heard or remembered through time. Glenn Maxwell, as I say, could be so frustrating, but at his best he put bums on seats around the world. So thank you Glenn for your contribution to cricket and that was our absolute miracle. What two hundred he mate against Afghanistan. A double two three double O DOUBLEO. If you have a sporting event that you'd like to pass on and share with us, a single sporting achievement, someone who's done something out of the ordinary. It's eight past ten. We mentioned that more than two and a half million Australians on the minimum wage have secured a pay rise. Their pay will be increased from twenty four dollars ten per hour to twenty four ninety four an hour. So there won't be party time on that, but at least it is an improvement. Well, our farmers are hanging tough in the face of one of the toughest droughts on record. South Australia's agriculture industry is worth more than seventeen billion dollars to the state's economy. According to the latest figures. The State of Primary Industries twenty twenty five report highlighted the value and it's eight point six billion dollars in overseas trade forty nine percent of total merchandise exports. Now, we were going to talk about this yesterday with Simon Mannix, the Chair of Primary Producers Essay, but he was otherwise engaged because the Prime Minister was in town. Simon, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 12: Good morning Graham, great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: Before we get onto the state of the state. Regarding the rural aspect, the Prime Minister in town yesterday made an announcement. What was your reaction to it? How do you feel about it?
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Speaker 7: Oh?
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Speaker 17: Look, I think two responses to that. Graham absolutely delighted to see the Prime Minister dropping into South Australia and getting a first hand exposure to what our impacted primary producers are having to deal with. But I think that helps him frame the contextual response that we are looking for the feeds to come to the party with. Pleased that he was able to make some extra announcements, an additional two million dollars towards the real financial counseling service, which we know is absolutely critical and really pleased that he has picked up one of our requests, which was to move the National Drought Forum to be hosted here in South Australia in August September. That's run in conjunction with the National Farmers Federation that Priming Producers is the South Australian member of because that will allow national dialogue about whether drought policy is working properly or not to be considered in the midst of an environment that has been severely impacted over the last couple of years by drought. So I think that's helpful, but in terms of immediate relief to farmers, I guess we'd have to express a little bit of disappointment. We certainly had very good meetings with the Federal Minister of Agriculture, Julie Collins on Wednesday and Thursday last week, so I'm not surprised in the time she's had to get back to the PM and him having an opportunity to drop into Adelaid yesterday, there was probably only a couple of days. So they've reassured us that they are working on a couple of other issues that we fed back to them. They probably the most significant of those is that there is a support system called the Regional Investment Corporation that provides low interest loans to primary producers. At the moment that's tr I think about five and a half percent, which is almost commercial. So we'd like to see that dropped to interest free or low interest for a couple of years. There's a couple of other measures that I was hoping we'd hear more from him about yesterday, but maybe that's still a work in progress and we'll get some more in due course.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's get back to this hold out hope. Most certainly, let's get back to this report yesterday. Pretty impressive still in light of the ongoing drought. The agriculture industry worth seventeen point one billion dollars.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, and that's come off of a high eighteen point five billion in twenty two twenty three, which is probably the impact of the Chinese block bunch out of Australian wine. And we'll be beginning to see some drought impact creeping through. But I think what this highlights, as you've pointed out, Graham, is that even under adverse trade or environmental circumstances, our industries are still making a very significant contribution to the South Australian economy. We describe it as the backbone of the South Australian economy and I guess our intention with this report was to not only frame the business case for why these industries are important to South Australia, but to highlight they're not just legacy industries that the state was built on. They're making major contributions now are there enormous opportunities going forward for significant technology innovation and further economic contribution. So it's really positioning these industries as critical to the future of South Australia as well.
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Speaker 1: So looking ahead, we don't know what's going to rain. We don't know, so what can we expect next year? Would expect unless there's a major turnaround, that that agriculture industry worth would drop down from that seventeen billion dollar figure.
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Speaker 17: I wouldn't be surprised if they happen. And it's hard to know because the Chinese market has opened up and we're sitting on a lot of wine, so one could potentially see an increase in wine exports. The US tariff situation is causing all sorts of changes in global markets, so again from a marketability perspective, we might see new opportunities opened up in that. But from a production perspective, I think we recognize that where we're sitting at the moment, this looks like it might be the same as last year, in which case we're going to see a significant dropping productivity over the twenty five twenty six season. But you know, never say never. If it rains, and it will rain at some point, it's just a question of when. But if it rains, we will see the potential for the broad over propping industries to kick in and deliver at least an average year. Livestock I think will be suppressed for quite some time because it's so cold now. Even if it range, the past is not going to grow, So they're probably looking looking till at least late spring early summer before we start to see the beginnings of a pickup and they've got rebreading programs to launch. It'll be a couple of the years probably before we see livestock back to its peak, but.
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Speaker 10: We hold out hope.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, congratulations to you for that is a remarkable figure considering the drought, and there's always optimism for the future. Thanks for your time today, Simon, Well, I I appreciate.
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Speaker 17: Your interest too, Graham, because these are really important and great career opportunities for young South Australians and we look forward to continuing to build our contribution to the state.
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Speaker 15: Thanks very much.
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Speaker 1: Good Only Simon. That's Simon Maddick's chair of the Primary Industry Producers and the agricultural sector bearing up remarkably well. We've had this near record drought. The agriculture industry worth seventeen billion dollars only done slightly on last year which was eighteen and a half billion dollars, but that cannot be expected to maintain if the drought continues. But hopefully it will break and that will be good news for all of us because we need a strong agriculture industry in this state. Regarding the Prime Minister's visit yesterday, Rob Brokenshire, the Dairy Farmer's Association President, had this to say about what the Prime Minister had.
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Speaker 18: To offer yesterday. I would say, to be honest, probably a bit of a damp squid, but I must say, to be very fair that the work the Malanowski's government are doing with this in agriculture and particularly in the area I represent with dairy, I am really happy with what we're doing there. There may be a lot more to be done yet we don't know, but there's an open door policy and a mobile phone connection whenever we need it straight through to the Premier's office and minister'scriving from a state point of view at this point in time, we can't complain from a federal point of view, I guess the jury is out on what they're going to do to ensure that. Just like defense, food production in Australia is paramount for sovereignty. So I'd ministered Julie Collins at our dairy farm last week for an hour and a half. We went through a lot there. What I'm hoping is that she's now taking a lot of documentation back through to the PM and Cabinet and I would hope for more than a damnse quid when announcement when we get the next announcement.
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Speaker 1: That was a Dairy Farmer's Association President Rob Brokenshaw speaking with David and Will on Breakfast this morning. Hi Graham, love your show. As far as trustworthy people go, you'd be right up the top of the list. I'd trust you one hundred percent. That's love you to say that. Maureen very nice, Thank you very much. Lawyers, Tim says, at least to be trusted. They are sheep in Wolve's clothing, devious, deceitful. Backdating documents is routine and the judiciary and most of the pollys come from their ranks. Of course, little wonder both are held in widespread contempt by the public. Thank you for that, Tim. Australia news media aren't to be trusted, followed by politicians and doctors, and they are top three because during the COVID tyranny, these lot demonized the public about lot downs and enforced vaccinations, which prove to be unconstitutional. They've shown no accountability since that time. It is still pushing the illegal COVID vaccines. Darren says, I'm confused. I've never seen a knife or a machete just up and attack anyone by itself. Yet we condemn them and seem to bypass the person on the end of them to port these us and their families from a strator and send the clear message soft than everything in this country. Think of that, Darren, Yeah, I get that argument. You know, guns don't kill people. People kill people. But I'm sorry if someone is in a state of agitation. Put a machete or gun in the hand, they're likely to cause more angst, more damage than just someone giving a slap on the face or whatever. So, yeah, there's no place for machetes. Although somebody says machetes are used in fruit and veg shops legitimately, well, fair enough. Anywhere there is a legitimate use for machetes, fine, but they should not be accessible to people to roam through shopping centers with saying it's just for my self defense eight double two to three double O double ow back shortly five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty two past ten five double A. Politicians. Where do they rank in the list of trustable people? Trustable? Okay, trustworthy people. When it comes to trustworthiness, doctors are right at the top of the list, followed by scientists, teachers, serving staff at a restaurant, members of the armed forces. The police come in at thirty eight percent, ordinary men and women thirty eight percent, judges thirty eight percent, TV news anchor television news readers shouldn't read this out? Should i thirty percent, polsters twenty nine percent, clergy and priests twenty nine percent, Taxi drivers twenty eight government employees, civil servants twenty eight percent, journalists twenty seven bankers twenty seven percent, business leaders twenty six percent, cabinet officials, government ministers twenty percent, advertising executives nineteen percent, social media influences fifteen percent, and bringing up the trail, politicians generally fifteen percent most trustworthy of all the professions. And are we surprised, I really surprised that politicians ranked so lowly. I'd be very if you are surprised. Ring up and tell me say, look, I think Polly's are the most trustworthy. I mean, we're talking about it today. Derenda Cox, a senator, goes to the electorate electorate. I'm a Green She ran for Green's leadership in the West. And the elections come and gone, and I think I'll become a Labor member and the Prime Minister willingly accepts her across to the Labor Party and all is dandy. Politicians Stephen Marshall lost the election, spat the dummy said that's it. I've had enough. Didn't fulfill his requirement. He said he'd sign on and lead the Liberal Party because he obviously thought they'd win the election. They didn't, and he said I'm out of here. Is it any wonder that we lose faith in our politicians? They do special deals. This superannuation is just a little bit better, a bit rosy than anyone else. And then icing on the cake, today we find out that guess how many days in Parliament that our politicians are going to sit this year for the rest of the year. Forty days. I don't know how many days are left in the year. It's got to be one hundred and eighty. We're about not halfway through the year. Someone will pick me up on it. But they're going to sit for forty days for the rest of the year to run the country. How can they justify that on their pay? Now? I don't think politicians are overpaid at all. I think they work hard for what they do. They expected to put in a lot of ours When I say work hard in their electorate offices that can be very time consuming. But when they go to Canberra, there's a lot to do. But they're only going to be there for forty days to run our nation. Is there any wonder that they only rank last when it comes to trusted trusted professions? What are your thoughts on that? Eight? Double two three double O, double oh from the text line gig what about some national building ideas like the inland rail et cetera, to channel water down from the north of the country like the Bradfield Plan. Here, Michael, we've talked about that. There was a new Bradfield Plan and that was a scheme to get water from the rain rich north of this country down to the parched south. But it wasn't considered it practical or economic. And this is going way back when in the days of solo because you have to have pump. I know, when you look at the map, it looks like the water had run easily downhill, but that's not the case. It's all flat and you would need pumps every I don't know how many, fifty hundred, whatever kilometers. But with solar power these days, the power is there all if there is install the pump and the power is free. We're told it was free. So yeah, let's read. Is it the Bradfield Plan? Gg Adelade's thirty one story timber building to begin construction soon and completed by twenty six, twenty seven. Well, if a fire broke out, jeez, but it's not a timber building. Please ensure me that's not a timber building. Where do you get the idea it's a timber building? Philip, Good morning, Good morning John.
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Speaker 7: How are you?
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Speaker 1: It's Graham actually, but go ahead.
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Speaker 7: Sorry Graham? Where I got John from? Anyway? Now, I was just listening to your regarding the politicians and trustworthiness and stuff like that. I actually think they're only good when they're walking into an election. After that, there is how do I put it useless? Only worry about themselves. What frustrates me the most is how pensioners get treated. You're all good while you're paying tax and working, and then as soon as you decide to retire, you get put out into the pastures and that's the end of it. Mate, lost, very very hard for them. I believe that they should be increasing the pension rate to accommodate the ones that actually need it.
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Speaker 1: Yeap, No, A fair point. Good on your Philip, Thanks for your input today. You do have to question lot. Look, I know a lot of people go into politics with the purest of ideals that want to make this country, this state a better place, and they get in there, but for some reason they have to make concessions if they want to get on within the party, they run as an independent. They run as an independent, they're not answerable to anyone, but they're electorate. But when you're in a party you want to get on well, i'll agree to this if you agree to that. So you get compromised. So by the time you reach a position of power in the party, you owe things to other members of the party, you know, and there are factions, some of their factions on the right, there are cent of actions, so you have to make compromises. So by the time that you're in a position of absolute power, you are compromised. And the look, there are exceptions for the rule, but I think in the main politicians no wonder they rank so larwly. They are not highly regarded, and they don't tell the truth. This is the thing that really is irksome. And they can get away with it. At the federal level in Australia, could there be voting as compulsory, but politicians telling the truth, Well, that's optional. But we let them get away with this. We let them get away with it. And what do we do. We relect them for another term and we sit and wring our hands and complain about it, and then the next election rolls around and they tell the same old stories and we fall for the same old lines. It can be very, very frustrating. As they say about the Westminster system, it's not a great system, but it's the best system there is. If you can come up with an alternative, I'd like to know about it. A double two to three double O disturbing report shows one in three men report using intimate partner violence. The ten Men Program lead Australian Institute of Family Studies, doctor Sean Martin, will join us to talk about that, and we'll then talk about the Fair Work Commission's decision, the minimum wage review, and there's more in your pocket if you're on a minimum wage.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, twenty eight to eleven non five double A. Yes, that world's tallest timber building. It is a fact, a new thirty one story timber skyscraper breaking ground in the heart of Adelaide two hundred and fifty million dollars on the site of the heritage listed MLS building in Victoria Square. So there you go. It is going to be sustainable, scalable up to sixty five percent fewer skilled workers on the site. An innovative scalable plan, a chance to create a whole new GDP growth industry in Australia's collaboratively with the Thrive Alliance its global expertise. However, one hundred thousand sustainable major urban projects. So this is unique to Adelaide, but not certainly unique to the world. So what are you thinking thirty one story timber size guyscraper in Adelaide and that, But there are some very big timber buildings in the world. I remember as it in San Diego, the Del Coronado at the time was the biggest wooden building in the world. The hotel absolutely beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Someone will put us right on that. There's always someone listening who knows eight double two three double o double ow. Well. Some disturbing figures have come to hand regarding domestic violence, in particular one and three men report using intimate partner violence. The ten Men Program lead Australian Institute of Family Studies, doctor Shawn Martin joins, men are doctor, good morning.
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Speaker 8: To you, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Look, we're all too aware of domestic violence in the community, but this is an absolutely distressing and disturbing report. One in three men report using intimate partner violence.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. So our estimates, as you point out, come from a nationwide study of the health of boys and men called tense Men. And so initially we took we ran a series of measures with these men in the recruitment phase back in twenty thirteen, and at that stage, around one in four men reported ever using intimate partner violence, so using it since they've been an adult, and that had increased to over one in three men around thirty five percent of the last time we measured them back in twenty twenty two. If we take that sample of men, which are broadly designed to represent the Australian population, and that sort of equates to around one hundred twenty thousand men per year engaging in this sort of activity each year.
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Speaker 1: And what classifies as domestic violence, Yeah.
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Speaker 8: It's a great question. So we look particularly at intimate partner violence, so that's violence of generally physical nature, emotional type violence, or sexual violence that occurred in an intimate partnership. And we use a specific measure that's been tested to work for men, and we use that measure both as I say, recruit mentioned in our most recent wave, a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: There can be no excuse for domestic violence on any level, But what are the reasons?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, the why part of it is really where we'll start to redouble our efforts.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 8: We did have a look at a particular select list of risk factors and protective factors. So we found a strong association with earlier mental health. So particularly men who had clinically significant depressive symptoms were much more likely to use intimate partner violence around about a fifty eight percent increase, as well as men who unfortunately had suicidal thoughts or plans or activities. We're also at a significantly high risk of using this type of behavior, but we're also able to downe by some protective factors too, So men who had a higher level of what we called social connectedness, so that's an increased connection to their friends, to their families, into their community, they were at a much lower risk of using into the partner violence. And one particularly unique aspect that we looked at was what's called paternal affection. So our men were administered a range of questions around the quality of the relationship they had with their father or their father's type figure. And those men that had a very high level of paternal affection were almost half the risk of views of using into that partner violence in their adult life.
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Speaker 1: We hear all too often in domestic violence cases that the person the perpetrator had an awful upbringing they were subject to domestic violence. It still can't be excused at any level.
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Speaker 8: Kennon, No, it can't. But that's consistent with what we hear as well. Essentially, hurt people, hurt people, you know, and doesn't excuse that behavior that the behavior is always the choice of the perpetrator. I guess what we've tried to do here is identifies some risk factors or some factors might relate to the use of this behavior in order to sort of try to improve the evidence based to ultimately inform interventions that might help reduce the level of this behavior.
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Speaker 1: Later on down the track, I mean, the endgame, the end result we want is to end domestic and family violence. What is the next step?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, And actually the government has invested significantly in what they're called the National Plans are and Violence against Women and Children, So that initially focused really on victims and victims survivors. Now the field is more generally turning their attention towards perpetration and particularly trying to find factors that might help prevent these behaviors occurring. So that's the sort of space we find ourselves in now. It is increasingly an issue that we spend more time on, as well as a range of other issues that affect the well being of boys and men. But that's our job now, is to increase the evidence space to try to come up with interventions and policies that will help prevent this in the future.
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Speaker 1: I mean, prevention is the Olderman name, but early intervention is equally important.
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Speaker 8: That's absolutely right. I would far be better in a space where we stop these behaviors occurring in the first place. That's why we work increasingly with a range of service providers and community groups that can really get in front of this issue before it occurred.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Shawn Martin, thanks so much for your time today. Thanks Graham Tender Men Program lead the Alstone and Institute of Family Studies. Just remarkable figures that one in three men report using intimate partner violence one in three, So you know, if you're in a group of ten people in a room, men three are potentially using intimate partner violence. Just bigger's belief, doesn't it They double two three, double o double. If you want to comment on that or anything we've been talking about today from the text line simple terms Graham six months off the year to go or six months of the year to go. Oh, this is talking about politicians, the fact that they only have scheduled forty days now. I wonder if before the election the parties had said how many days they would intend to sit before the end of the year, and they told us forty days. How would you react to that. So you're going to sit for forty You're going to run the country and you're going to do all the legislating and changes necessary in forty days. Stephen said, simple terms, gram six months of the year to go? They work two months. Unbelievable, it is, It is absolutely unbelievable. I wonder, way who don't trust them and we don't have a lot of time for them. It is incredibly incredibly frustrating, and they don't have to tell the truth. They can promise anything. Southa Straateia is a bit different when it comes to politics because we've had forty years now where the politics has been covered by the truth and advertising and that is all well and good, but you know when it comes to truth, when is prosecuted, like there is a rider here in south of the state of politicians are accountable, must tell the truth. The law has been in place, as I said, for forty years. But think about this for a second. Our current government promised Labor will fix ramping. I didn't know the promise. You saw, you saw the placards, you saw the billboards, you saw the core flutes, Labor will fix ramping. Now less than twelve months out from the next election, they have made no impression on ramping numbers. They thrown a lot of money in the area, done a lot of great things in the area, but they have not fixed ramping. But will they be held to account or certainly not by our lame dark opposition. They've only got thirteen members out of forty seven seats in the Lower House. Predictions are that after the next election, I'll be able to take all their members to party meetings at a combie van. I don't think that's been too cruel. How highly do you rate politicians? They rank lowest of low on a national scale at fifteen. Only fifteen percent of people trust our politicians. Eight double two to three double o double. Oh well, here's something you can trust. The Adelaide Cabaret Festival is back the twenty twenty five. We've got your chance to experience some of the festival's biggest shows today. We've got two tickets to see Ray Thistlethwaite on Thursday June sixteen or Thursday June nineteen for your chance to head along with a friend. Make sure you're listening out across the show for your chance to win. I will call out the number, not just now but soon, Ray Thistlethwaite. Now, imagine if Ray Thistleswaite was a football played in the forward line were with Riley Philthorpe. What sort of fun do you think the commentators would have with that not being cruel or nasty, but Ray tricky name to say, Ray thistlethwait handballs to Riley Philthorpe. Thank you very much. Eight double two three double o double All right, we're going to do it right now for your chance to head along to see Ray thistle'swait ring now eight double two three double oh double five right now, first caller wins The twenty twenty five Adlaid Cabaret Festival. The fifth of the twenty first of June Adelaide Festival Center. Book your tickets now at the Adelaide Cabaret Festival on dot com dot au. That's the number. If you want to comment on anything of the day's events, give me called eight double two three double oh doublo is the number to ring back shortly five double A.
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Speaker 5: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 6: Funny enough?
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Speaker 19: A little a friend of mine that I jam with every now and then rang me a few weeks to go and said we really need to go and see this guy.
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Speaker 7: He's amazing. And I said, okay, well, let's see we get some tickets.
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Speaker 1: You've done very well, You've done very well. You're a bit of a muser yourself.
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Speaker 7: Eh I am, I am.
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Speaker 8: It's been many years of playing lots of different types of music.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look good on you, Jack, Congratulations to you. We will chat. That's Jack, Who's off to see Ray Thistlethwaite. And if you're not familiar with the work of Ray Thistlethwaite, he actually performs with a group called Thirsty Murk. Very accomplished to sing a songwriter, pianist, guitarist, vocalist, Ray Thistlewaite coming to the Adelais Cabaret Festival. And we have more things to give away a little later on, but right now on five double A. The minimum wage handing Fairwork Commission that has handled down its annual minimum wage review decision and tell us more about it. Is Zach de Silva, federal politics reporter for nine Radio. Zach, good morning to you, Good morning Graham, good to be with you. Any surprises in the decision.
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Speaker 20: No, the Fair Work Commission has come down bank smack in the middle of where businesses and unions wanted the minimum wage to go. It's sorted a three and a half percent increase from the first of July. That's eighty four cents an hour or thirty two dollars a week. If you're on the minimum wage. Businesses one ed to two and a half percent, increased unions of four and a half percent. This is right in the middle, pretty much where we expected. The Commission made the point that inflation is now back within the Reserve Banks target danned and so this is now an opportunity to try and make up for the last few years where the minimum wage has at best kind of that's paced with inflation. They're saying, now that inflation is back down, we don't have to worry as much about giving people more money and you know them going and spending that they're less worried about that pushing up inflation now. So from the first of July, if you're on the minimum wage, you'll get an extra thirty two dollars a week. Award wage is also going up by that three and a half percent.
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Speaker 1: So I guess the Commission heard arguments from employers saying no to any sort of increase, and the union's warning as much as possible.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, the employer groups wanted a smaller increase, and their argument really is that productivity, that's you know, how much how much people are doing or how much people are producing per hour, has been really kind of stagnant the last few years, and employers have gone, well, we're not getting anything more out of our workforce, so and we're not being able to make any more from our workforce, so we shouldn't have to pay them more. So, like the Chamber of Commerce and Industry was looking for a two and a half percent increase that the Fair Work Commission's gone slightly higher than that, and business groups are now saying, well, look, the government needs to really come up with a plan to work on productivity gear because we're now having to pay our workforce as extra but not really getting much more out of them. So and the Fair Work Commission did acknowledge that as well. They said one of the reasons that they didn't go higher with this increase was because of the issue of really floundering productivity. So expect that to be a conversation that the government and other groups will have over the next weeks and months. But I think it's safe to say the unions are pretty happy with this. It's not quite as much as they wanted, but it's above inflation, which is the main thing. So if you're on those minimum and award wages, you won't be going backwards compared to consumer prices.
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Speaker 1: And when does it come into force.
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Speaker 20: Comes into force from the start of July, and then well there'll be another review next year, and then there'll be another increase at the start of next July. But it comes into force from the first of July.
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Speaker 1: Cood only got to chat.
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Speaker 20: Always a pleasure, Thank you.
01:12:02
Speaker 1: Factor Silver, federal politics reporter for nine Radio on the Fair Work Commission announcing the minimum wage increases. This is what they had to say.
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Speaker 11: The decision we have made in this his annual wage review is to increase the national minimum wage and all modern award minimum wages by three point five percent, effective from one July twenty twenty five. The principal consideration which has guided our decision is a fact that since July twenty twenty one, employees who are reliant upon modern award minimum wages or the National minimum wage have suffered a reduction in the real value of their wage rates.
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Speaker 1: And that's the Fair Work Commission. This morning, it's nine minutes to eleven on five double A well, a bit of disturbing news regarding doctors her potential strike action coming up to tell us about it. As Bernadette mulholland the essay an Salary Medical Officers Association Bernadette, good morning to you.
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Speaker 21: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 1: So what is this action likely to take place?
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Speaker 21: Look, we have called a mass meeting of our membership in a few weeks time. If the negotiations continue at this nail's pace, it looks like we will need to talk to our members about stepping up industrial action. There's real concerns that we've been working with the state government representatives now for eight months.
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Speaker 8: We've little to show for it.
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Speaker 21: There's been really limited information, and we're of the view that we don't believe the negotiators are dealing in good faith bargaining, and therefore we need to take that to our membership to get some instruction our medical officers to make sure that we're and if we're not on track, what they would like to do about that, to make sure we can start to bring the state government negotiators to the table to have some responsible and reasonable conversations so that the doctors can put to the government what they actually need to be attracted and retained in this state.
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Speaker 1: This is pretty radical action, though surely doctors walking off the job, Oh.
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Speaker 21: Certainly it is the most radical action that I can remember since two thousand and eight. It's not an action that our doctors would take lightly. Certainly we've had stock work meetings before, but certainly we're not ruling off the table this time around strike action. We've seen what's happened in New South Wales, we've seen what's happened overseas and in New Zealand. Our doctors' real wages have fallen behind substantially, and there's no preparedness by this state to ensure that our doctors are maintained on real wages for what they've lost and for what the future needs to bring to the table to make sure our doctors are paid correctly, they are retained and attracted in South Australia so we can continue to keep the brightest and best in this state and that they don't go either interstate or overseas.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would question the fact that public doctors GPS deserve amount of pay. But what about when they go on strike patient care? Can you guarantee that the welfare of patients?
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Speaker 21: Certainly we will guarantee the welfare of patients, and I think we've seen that in New South Wales as well. We've certainly had previous motions in the last few weeks from our members making sure that patient care continues to be a priority, and we've seen on days such as on Christmas and other days that there are safe staffing levels are always put in place to maintain the patient welfare. That is a priority for our doctors and that is one clear instruction our doctors have given to us as we move forward for future discussions with this state government about wages and conditions for our doctors. Our junior doctors in particular are the second lowest paid in this country. We know that there are going to be shortages into the future. If we are not competitive in our wages for both our junior and senior doctors, the community will suffer because we won't be able to attract and retain doctors here. We also know that that our doctors have gone through a lot. They went through the transforming health process. On the back of that, we then had the Kalen administration come in at the Royal Adelaide Hospital. Then on the back of that we had COVID And it seems to me that every time our doctors help and assist and go above and beyond that this is not recognized and rewarded by successive state governments.
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Speaker 1: Now you've telegraphed this the walk off on June twenty five, that's off into the future. So is this to try and put pressure to get talks resumed or to get the result that you wan Look, we.
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Speaker 21: Do hope that this will bring pressure on the state government to actually sit down at the table and talk to us, at least their negotiators. Certainly nothing else has worked in the last eight months. But it's more than that. It's really getting our public sector doctors to instruct their union to see what is the best way forward, what is necessary, and what they need us to do to ensure that they have the wages and conditions in the future that will not only attract and maintain the senior doctors here, but we want to ensure that our training medical doctors, our junior doctors that are going through the learning process, our doctors of the future have certainly got those wages and conditions that will maintain a particular level. The other thing that we're working towards that we're struggling with the negotiators is minimum workforce planning of medical staff. How many do we need in our services, how many do we need in our university, what's the number we're going to need in future retirement? And we already saw in the psychiatrist's workforce planning that in twenty twenty seven, only two years down the track, we're going to see an incredible shortage of our psychiatrists and mental health. What's the planning about that? And what we're not hearing is any solutions to drive and make sure that we've got a stable medical workforce in the future.
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Speaker 8: Quite the opposite.
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Speaker 21: What we're actually seeing is that it's going to increasingly become more unstable, not just in metro but also in rural South Australia.
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Speaker 1: Bernadette Mulholland, thanks for your time. That's sasmoa Chief officer with the news that up to three thousand public Health system doctors will walk off the job on June twenty five after talks with the government over better paying conditions have broken down. What are your thoughts on that? Eight double two three double oh. The Premier Peter Malanaskis was talking on the subject with David and Willers morning.
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Speaker 2: As a state government, we genuinely value the work that is done by people in the public sector. You know, we shouldn't be dismissive of the work that you know, nurses another agreement that we've got negotiations on nurses.
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Speaker 1: We've got to reach an agreement police.
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Speaker 2: But nurses, allied health workers, doctors, you name it.
01:19:17
Speaker 1: We place a high value on their work.
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Speaker 2: Our commitment is that we do want to give people read what real wage increases. Also the general public sector, the people that aren't in uniforms, that are behind the scenes, they deserve a lot of recognition.
01:19:28
Speaker 1: Does real wage mean over and above inflation? Yes. Premier Peter Malin askers speaking on David and Mills program on five Double A this morning. It's two minutes two eleven non five Double A. We'll be back shortly and in the next half hour, I have some tickets to give away to my big brunch that I'll be hosting at the Hilton Hotel on South Road supporting meals on Wheels. Essay, it's going to be a great morning, two tickets to give away, So stick around back shorty five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings and I'm going to give away some big brunch tickets in this hour. It could be you. It could be you. If you're the best caller of this hour, I will give you those tickets. A double two to three doublo is the numbered ring, Hi Graham. As per Fair Work Commission, real wages decrease since twenty twenty one. This was under Labour's watch. They lied about it, saying wages grew, Hi Gig. I think more needs to be done finding out why men feel like they do, why so much depression. Even as a female, I note that males are constantly being criticized, sometimes demonized, and left to feel quite dispensable as a partner or parent. I believe women and needs of women have been elevated to a level out of proportion. You don't see men's International Day, Businessman of the Year, Father of the Year, or many other accolades that women enjoy worth pursuing. Thank you for that, Ray Graham. Funny pollies never seem to have an issue getting pay rises. If they did and went on strike, would anyone notice or would anyone care? There's a very interesting thing about politicians pay rises, because they don't award them to themselves. There's an independent committee, commission, or whatever it's called, that decides on politicians' pay rises. So when they get a pay rise granted to them, they say, they shrug their shoulders and say, well, we didn't award it. It was awarded to us. But what about a politician saying times are tough, Times are really tough, and I've been awarded a fifteen thousand dollars a year pay rise, but in the interests of the economy, I will forego the pay rise. Has any politician ever foregone their pay rise till I can think of one? Nick Xenophon did I think when he was a senator at one stage he said no, I will not accept the pay rise and handed it back. But no other politician that I'm aware of has done that, And that would be a show of good faith, was it because they're not too badly paid? But when they shrug and say, look, you can't blame me, you can't blame me. I didn't award myself a pay rise. We have this independent committee. Of course, this independent committee has been appointed by who politicians exactly. It's a vicious circle. And they wonder why we don't love them. It's eight minutes past eleven on five double a. Well, the state budget will be handed down on Thursday, and the AMA in southa Stratia is looking for a major influx of money to boost the health sector. To tell us more about it is Peter Sue Morale and President of the sn the AMASA. Peter, good morning to.
01:22:27
Speaker 4: You, Good morning brand Now tell us.
01:22:30
Speaker 1: What are you looking for in the state budget.
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Speaker 22: So it's an opportunity really for the government to invest in the current problem of believing hospital congestion and ramping. And I'm no doubt that that will be a focus of not just this budget but the upcoming election. But our focus is also to ensure that we invest in the right tools to make sure that we get this health system improved, and that is in workforce. We've got an issue, of course, Graham, of ramping, but we've also got an issue in terms of having the right number of staff in the right spots and I'm talking here about the GP access as well as hospital doctors and specialists. So I think that would be what our expectation is that the budget will invest in.
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Speaker 1: The state government has invested a lot of money in the health area in the past two and a half or so years. Are you suggesting that either it's not enough money or it's been spent in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 22: Well, I think the proof of the pudding is in the eating, isn't it. Because the investment is welcome and the investment is acknowledged. But we still have the problem of hospital congestion, we still have the problem of long waiting lists, and we still have the problem of access to GPK. So I would say, yes, the investment is there, but perhaps it's not as effective as it could be, and I think we need to look for some smart investments.
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Speaker 1: Is the IMA consulted along the way before the government makes decisions in the health area?
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Speaker 22: Look, I think we have a relationship with both the government, the opposition and also the department, and it's a respectful and collaborative one, but we of course reserve the right to challenge decisions that we think don't serve the purpose of the community. So yes, we have regular meetings with the minister and we debate these issues. We have some agreements and we have areas where we don't have agreement.
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Speaker 1: Now, it is interesting that you've come out with this release just a couple of days before the election or the budget. Sorry, you can't expect them that they've already formalized the budget, So you're putting them on notice because they've obviously made decisions. They're not going to change their mind with two days to go before the budget comes out, are they?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 22: But the release really is the reflection of the constant or consistent position that we've taken, and I think as we enter into a climate of some somehow somewhat of industrial discomfort, if you like, for the government, there's no more better time to address the issue of workforce than now.
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Speaker 1: Where in the process of getting a new women's and children's hospital, do you think enough is being done to sustain the women's and children's as it is now?
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think it's to you know, two four questions here versus the need for a new women's and children's facility is certainly there, but the aim is keen to ensure that it's not just a new, you know, modern building we have, but an improvement in the provision of services to women and children. So we have been in of late somewhat out of the loop because there hasn't been much consultation. We're hoping to address that on the configuration of services at the new women's and children Having said that, the original premise of your question was is enough being done to maintain the current women's and children's And we're monitoring that with members of our council who work at the women's and.
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Speaker 1: Children Finally, I asked the question mental health is a major issue, not only in the state, of course, but nationally. But let's focus on South Stateia and mental health causes so many issues on so many areas, and it's cloging up our hospitals and the like. Is enough being done in that area? What would you like to see being done?
01:26:42
Speaker 22: Yeah, so I think you would be aware that the government announced an expansion of something called the Core Responder Program a couple of days ago to improve mental health access for emergency or cute mental health presentations, and that is welcome. But I think the problem with mental health is we don't want to go to the to the crisis that we've seen in New South Wales. I thing that's evident in the Four Corners program last night. The investment in mental health services actually has to be in primary help. So the more access people with mental health problems have to their GPS, the earlier the interventions and the less need for acute presentation. So that's what we'll be looking for strengthening our access to primary healthcare or patients with mental health condition.
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Speaker 1: Peter, thanks so much for your time today. That's Peter Subramanium on the call for a resilient health workforce in the state budget. Time will tell if they get what they're looking for. Eight double two three double oh double oh. Good morning Graham, the energy gentleman. You had on giving advice earlier this morning stating that we need to build the bare minimum because of all the mother and dads will have to put or foot the bill. Hasn't been the problem throughout the whole generation of this time in this country, building the bare minimum instead of building what we need for the future. Surely the countries get at least another couple left. Unfortunately, well, a little couple of typos there made it very difficult, but I get your point. High Grammar's per Fair Work Commission real wages decreased since twenty twenty one. This was under Labour's watch. Eight double two three double o double. If you'd like to comment on any of the subjects we've been talking about today, I'd like to hear from you. Politicians rank the lowest and trustworthiness their reputation is questionable. Any time will tell if a politician can change, and Adelaide's premier is one. Yeah, I must say our premier is one one politician that I am excluding from my overall disdain for politicians. I think Peter Malanaskis is an exceptional politician. In fact, I would go as far as to say, as the the principal politician in Australia. He has said a standard that I don't think, and he's done so many good things for the state, and I'm not always in agreement with him, and over COP thirty one, I'm certainly not an agreement. In fact, I'm more than pleased that we bring COP thirty one to Adelaide. But let's forget that it's all about climate change and making a difference there. It's all about generating income for the state. Because if you really wanted to do something for climate change, for controlling our fossil fuel footprint, you wouldn't bring a COP conference with thirty thousand people from one side of the planet to the other. You just wouldn't do it. You'd hold a zoom conference. But anyway, that's the story for another day. I can't stand or trust lawyers or the law. My father's will was challenged by his de facto partner. The lawyer said, we are not accepting the payout figure. We trusted. The lawyer fought the case and it went two hundred and fifty thousand dollars above the original number. Around people are living in a dream world of make believe. If they think that politicians are in politics for the community, they are in it for their superannuation and the freebies and perks, cars, food, booz accommodation and so on. They're all the same. From Anthony Albanezy to Pauline Hansen. Yeah, look, I don't think that's quite I think that is an oversimplification of the case. There are some pretty good politicians there. I just don't think they're committed to the degree that we'd like them to be committed. Fred, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 19: I'm proud to ask the question with regards to lecturercity prices, who might be the regulator or is there a team that the regulator allow the prices of electricity to go up as they are at the moment.
01:30:49
Speaker 1: Who is it? Well, there isn't a regulator. There's the AEMO who does some controlling of our power prices.
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Speaker 19: When you you hear it on the radio, it says the regulator has increased the prices of electricity by a certain percentage. Ye, who is that person and how does the how do they warrant increasing the prices of electricity when people are struggling?
01:31:18
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know exactly. We will, we will pursue that. Who exactly does it? I think the suppliers can set their own prices. I don't know if anyone can actually set an absolute price. There's market dynamics that come into force here, and if someone's providing power at a cheaper price, because you can choose, you can pick and choose these.
01:31:36
Speaker 19: Days understandable there, Well, we've got solar panels on our We're okay in a way. But it's these people that are struggling now, and it's still they are still putting the prices up.
01:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's it's apply and demand. If it's yeah, well if you won't get an argument from me. But the point is that we are subjected to that because there are so many factors involved, and these are all private enterprises and they want to make it and.
01:32:08
Speaker 19: I understand share shareholders want the price is possible. I understand that, but we should not have sold it often and we really need to keep a handle on this at the moment. You know, that's why people's house are burning down.
01:32:25
Speaker 23: A candle.
01:32:26
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, that's that's that's another story, isn't it. Yeah, well, let should be doing at you they.
01:32:31
Speaker 19: Know, if you can find out, If you can find out, I think people would like to know.
01:32:35
Speaker 1: Well, all right, we'll see if we can bring it do. I mean, they set their own prices, but the regular editor can play a role in it. Good on your fred, No, we will certainly look into that. There are many factors that influence electricity prices. I mean, they have the wholesale cost they have to pay themselves, and they pass on that cost to us. And there is no overriding factor that says you will not charge any more to set them out. And that's what the free enterprise system is all about. We can bleed and complain, is all we like. But because power prices are going up, and that's caused by a whole range of things, Because all of a sudden, we're pursuing renewables to the degree we are. Therefore coal and gas aren't as accessible and the costs involved are passed on to us because when renewables aren't working, the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing. Of course we are then stuck with having to pay exorbitant prices by importing power from Victoria that's generated by coal or gas, and we have to pay the extra price for that. And this is this transitionary period between going from total renewables to or from coal and gas to total renewables, and that's a bridge too far at this stage. That's why they're having to extend contracts on gas and extend exploration for gas because we're going to need it for the next forty or years or so.
01:33:58
Speaker 5: Five Double A Morning with Graham Goodings.
01:34:02
Speaker 1: At twenty three past eleven on five Doba. My next guest is the Minister for Veterans Affairs, Joe Lockhart. Joe, good morning to you.
01:34:09
Speaker 8: Great three with you, Graham.
01:34:11
Speaker 1: Now tell us record. Seventy South Australia veterans have completed the Port Adelaide Football Club's twenty twenty five ADF Veterans program. What's that about?
01:34:19
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it's a fantastic program. We're really proud to be supporting this as a government through a direct grant and this is a fifth year And the reason it's so important Graham is not only because it's the only program of its kind and nature in the country, but what's so important about it is the due that we have as a government and as a community to support veterans and transitioning defense personnel. They give so much to our country, they give so much to our community, but what we've really got to help support is the transition out of service. And that's why these programs are so great. And credit where credits due. The port Adelaie Footay Club do just an outstanding job. They get fantastic leaders in, they get fantastic peers in, they get the players, they get defense personnel and fundamentally it's called What it's about is supporting veterans who are transitioning out, but also putting our best foot forward as a state. Because South Australia is a place that is proud of our veterans' history. We're proud of what we do in terms of programs and we want our state, we want our city to be a place where veterans decide to call home with their families.
01:35:26
Speaker 1: Most definitely, So what is entailed in the program.
01:35:30
Speaker 8: Look, it's just terrific. I've had the privilege of spending a bit of time in and around the program myself, but a lot of it is around stories of self, around this power of having people with a lived experience and similar stories in a room together, being supported by the footy club, by players legends like Travis Boch who come in and speak of their own story. I was lucky enough for a year ago. Also we go to hear Cassi talk about his role in some of the challenges that he faced as a captain of a footy club in a pretty tough time. And although it's not about telling stories of service, I think what's really powerful is hearing different voices from different parts of our community talking about resilience, talking about challenges, talking about transition, and that transition in itself is where we really need to invest the most care and support. At the heart of our state's prosperity is of course, growing industry, growing jobs and defense industries. The future orchest build, the future defense build here in our state is so critical to our future prosperity, and over the coming years, the number of veterans who calls out Australia home will grow massively and we should be really proud of that because they provide such a massive input. They provide such a massive support for jobs, but also we want are back in their families and their children to feel welcome and loved here as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a very successful program. Thanks for your time in telling us about it. Joe Sock, arch Minister for Veteran's Affairs. Let's find out from someone who's actually taken part in the program, Jason and Chong. Jason, good morning to you.
01:37:16
Speaker 23: Hey, good morning, how are you good?
01:37:18
Speaker 1: Thanks? Now you're a veteran, tell us how you came to be involved in the program.
01:37:24
Speaker 23: So it was advertised through work not coming from South Australia. I didn't follow AFL or Port Adelaide, so I didn't really know what they were about. But some of my colleagues had done the program in the past and they've had excellent experiences through it, and I was like, well, why not give it a crack.
01:37:42
Speaker 1: What do I have to lose and what was the impact that had on you?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's given me a bit of an identity outside of the uniform. That's probably one of the biggest things that we have. If we step away from the ADF, who are we as a person? We don't have that identity to lean back on and that network structure that this program provides. It sort of networks us in putting us together with people that have already been through that door and have walked that pathway themselves, and they can provide their lessons learned so we don't have to go out and do it all.
01:38:27
Speaker 1: On our own. Yeah, that sounds like a very beneficial program. Jason, thanks for sharing your story with us. Jason has been part of this record seventy South of Stanard veterans who've completed the Port Adelaide Football Club's twenty twenty five ADF Veterans Program. An innovative initiative that is transforming lives through the power of sport, connection and purpose. And well done to the port adelaid Football Club too for putting up this program. Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. So who sets our power prices? That's a fair question. Well, it's a EMO and AER, the Australian Energy market operator. They run the National Electricity market. Electricity is bought and sold across five states, including South Australia. Then there's the Australian Energy Regulator oversees compliance and enforcement in the wholesale market and monitors prices to ensure they're not being manipulated. The wholesale prices are mostly set by market forces supply and demand, but the AER can intervene if there's evidence of market abuse, then we have the AR setting the default market offer. In South Australia, New South Wales and Southeast Queensland, the DMO acts as a price cap for standard electricity plans, essentially a safety net for consumers who haven't switched plans. Have we confused you there? It is so we will get someone on to simplify and explain that. But that's basically it. It's effectively market forces, but a lot of input from various areas, Morning Graham. The Australian Energy Regulator who grants energy price increases is yes, you guessed it. The government cheers, Thank you very much for that. Len Well. Luisa o'donnaugh, who was arguably was arguably Australia's most recognized Aboriginal woman, a powerful and unrelenting advocate for her people and inspiration to many. To coincide with the close of National Reconciliation week. A landmark exhibition honoring one of Australia's most celebrated aborage and leaders will open next week on Wednesday, June four, at the Kerry Packer Civic Gallery, Bob Hawk, Prime Minister i Will Center, University of South Australia. The exhibition title Luisa A Life of Leadership and Legacy and to tell us about It. Deb Edwards, head of the Luisa Foundation, deb good morning to you.
01:40:41
Speaker 24: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 22: Good to speak with you and with you.
01:40:44
Speaker 1: This is a tribute and celebration of a famous and wonderful Australian.
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Speaker 24: It certainly is, and you know, probably a little bit overdue. She's had such an incredible life, lived such an incredible life, and it's really a wonderful opportunity and timely now to be able to share her life story through this wonderful exhibition which we're curating, which opens tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: So for those who are not too aware of her deeds, why is she so famous and so significant?
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Speaker 24: Probably because of dedicating her entire lifetime to the health, wellbeing, social justice rights of Aboriginal tor Astray Islander people. She held many roles over her career, probably one of the most prominent being the inaugural chair of the Aboriginal torrestraate Iland Commission, known as AT six. She was there for about six years and during that time was very involved and at the head of the table of a lot of landmark changes that came in, such as the Native title legislation. She was the first Aboriginal person ever to address the United Nations Assemble. She was here in South Australia the very first Aboriginal nurse at the Royal Adelaide Hospital and went on to nurse in India, first Aboriginal person to nurse abroad in that kind of capacity. So many things. She wasn't Straighted of the Year in nineteen eighty four for so many achievements, but you know, primarily just to absolute, unrelenting inspiring work for our people over her whole lifetime.
01:42:28
Speaker 1: She crammed many lifetimes into one, didn't she Really?
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Speaker 24: She certainly did, and I should want to. I'm actually her niece. I am the daughter of her older sister, and you know, I'm a very very proud niece, and you know, I'm curating this exhibition. So it's an absolute honor and privilege for me to be able to put together a collection of all the wonderful things that she did in her lifetime. And she'd be very pleased that I'm doing it.
01:42:52
Speaker 1: Too, I think a whole bet. So tell us about this exhibition. What can we expect to see?
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Speaker 24: Well, the exhibition comprised of a lot of items that she either collected herself and had in her home. She has a very big collection at the National Library of Australia in Canberra that has been there since twenty thirteen. So many of those things sitting in boxes that I thought were going to waste and needed to be seen. But she had a lot of these things on the wall in her home as well, and she always referred to her house as her gallery. So I kind of well, she gave me the idea, really, you know, and she would be both thrilled that people are able to see some of the items that she has here. There's some beautiful personally signed items, such as a framed copy of Poor Keating's Redsperm Speech, which is personally signed when the photo there. There's lots of lots of papers and things from back in the day when she was in a coldbook home as a childhood, had been removed from her mother so she collected a lot of antique books and items like that that you know, depicts that time. Photogos, we have literally thousands and thousands of photographs. I've tried to share a few things that, you know, people probably wouldn't know about her. She was actually the head of the Indigenous committee that were advisors to the Sydney two thousand Olympics, and she was awarded a Commander of the Olympic Order as well. So I've pulled out some of the Olympic items. That's something that people probably don't know too much about her. And nursing. There's a very big section on her entire nursing Korea, from her start down at the South Coast District Hospital at Victor Harbor, through the Royal Adelaide and India and all the other wonderful things that she did.
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Speaker 1: She must have been a woman of great energy to achieve and do so much in her lifetime.
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Speaker 24: She certainly was. I was always telling her to stop, you know, even when she was well in through her eighties and she passed away at the age of ninety one, and she always wanted to go to meetings, you know. When she started to become a little bit frail physically. I have to tell her not to you know, probably wouldn't be a good idea to go to that meeting. And I used to get told off. So it was in their blood, that was. She absolutely lived for all of that and was very, very full of energy, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: So people can come along and see never be saw before seeing images and video a memorabilia of her life which will detail pretty well what she was able to achieve, that's right.
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Speaker 24: So we opened from tomorrow when say the fourth, at the Kerry Paka Civic Gallery, which is located in the Bob Hawk Prime Ministerial Center at the Union Assa City with campus on North Terrace. And you know, a wonderful thing that we've been able to partner on this exhibition with the Bob Hawk Center because they had a very close relationship and Ardie lloydgell was also a patron of this center, so she was in here a lot, you know, always here visiting an attending event. So we're just so proud and pleased to be able to partner with the Hawks Center on this and we're opened for two months right through to the end of June. Every weekday it's free entry. So you know, we'd love people to come in.
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Speaker 12: And have a look around.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant. Now many of us are fully aware of the work and admire what she has done over the years. What would you like people who are not aware of her work to go along and see the exhibition? What would you like them to take away from the exhibit?
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Speaker 10: I would like.
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Speaker 24: Them to take away that Lager as a child was told when she left the missionary home that she would never amount to anything, and that was her absolute motivation her entire life. And she was someone that was very, very driven. And I think through seeing all the things that you will hear in the exhibition, that really portrays that, you know, someone who just wanted to achieve constantly, and you know, never took no for an answer and just kept going and going and going. I think, especially for our young people, that's very inspiring to be able to see what you can achieve if you have that belief in yourself. And of course, just many things in here that do depict the wonderful achievements of the original people, you know, the real positive change that can come about the things that she created. In that regard, we could all do that, you know, and I would really really love for people to take that away and you know, really celebrate all of the wonderful things that she could achieve and the rest of us came true.
01:47:17
Speaker 1: Dear Edwards, great to chat with.
01:47:18
Speaker 24: You, Thank you Graham, Thanks good Chim.
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Speaker 1: That's Deve Edwards, head of the Luitia Foundation and no question argue with Australia's most recognized Aboriginal woman. A powerful, unrelenting story. She was an advocate for a people, inspiration to so many and at the end of National Reconciliation Week. It starts next week Wednesday the fourth, the Tribute to Luitia o'donna Hue at the Kerry Packer Civic Gallery the Bob Hawk Prime Minister Center, University of Southastradia. You don't have to rush because it's on for two months. LUITYA A Life of Leadership and legacy. A double two three double O double is the number to ring SOUTHA Stralian government ceded the right to sell I say, power prices to a EMO. The government could take back that right and manage the essay price. Is that right, Neil, Well, that would be interesting to know, that would be interesting And what would the government do if they took it over? Good morning, Graham. Another one of my texts that you won't read out well, not when you say things like that. I certainly won't. After paying a gap at a GP today, a second separate bill popped out of the telemachine. It was a five dollar bill for carbon tax. Seriously speaks for itself. I'd like to know more about that, as anyone else experience that. After paying a gap at a GP today, a second separate bill popped out of the telemachine. It was a five dollar bill for carbon tax. What is that about. We're talking earlier about politicians, why they're so lowly ranked. Only fifteen percent of people rate them as a profession fifteen percent. I mentioned the fact that politicians put their handout for a pay rise and say, look, other people award us the money. It's not our decision. I know one politician who refuse us, who was Senator Nick Xenophon, said no, I'm being paid quite enough. I will not accept the pay rise. And I asked the question, has anyone else done that will? Apparently yes, my producer has told me, Patrick has said. Dan Cregan, when he became speaker, said he would not take the pay rise. He take the job but not the pay rise.
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Speaker 2: I would do this job for a can of bake beans if that's what the pay was.
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Speaker 20: I haven't entered Parliament for any of the glittering prizes.
01:49:28
Speaker 1: Ah, well done, Dan Cregan. Any other politician, any other politician considerate. Now, as I've said many times on the show, I don't think our politicians are overpaid by any means, not where you compare what they get paid to public servants heads of department. I mean, how ludicrous is it that a head of a department can be paid more than the prime minister. Why does that happen? The head of our defense department is paid three times as much as the head of the US Defense Artment, three times as much he earns I think one point two to one point three million dollars a year. The head of the US Defense Department a similar role earns about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Why are our public servants so highly paid? And I'm talking the top end. I'm not talking about rank and file public servants, but those that head departments are all right, it's important job and they need to be paid well. But there are numerous public servants in this state who will earn more than Premier Peter mallanaskis now, surely the premier of the state should be earning more than anyone that works for him. It doesn't make sense we do things in a cockeyed manner in this country. Eight double two to three double double is the number to ring if you have a comment on that or anything else we've been talking about.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Final thirteen minutes of the program, Still time for you to say Hi. Artificial intelligence is at taking over the world. When it's taken over Hungry Jacks, it appears a fast food customer was left shocked after driving into a Hungry Jack's drive through, only to be greeted by an AI voice assistant. He took to TikTok to document the bizarre experience. The video begins with the AIO robots speaking to the driver through a digital screen. What can I get you, a female voice assistant asks the driver. Shock replies are u AI, to which it responded, I am Hungry Jack's virtual helper, And so it goes on. So this is what's going to happen, folks. We're going to be talking to oh it happens all the time online, doesn't it. Anyway, you find that you've talk and it's not so much a voice, but there's such and such a helper, and you think you're actually talking to somebody. Then you realize that it's not. It's artificial intelligence, a wonderful servant. But if it takes over, not so sure. John says public hospital doctors are worth every cent of a pay increase. Do not confuse with highly paid private doctors. Public hospital doctors have taken a decision to work for the state's health and they take half of any private doctor. They took us through COVID with no thanks from the government apart from a pay cut. They every day deal with the stress of a crumbling health system. Government always says for them to get the best highly paid public servants, they need to pay. Well, why shouldn't the people have South Austrata accept lower standards just because the government will not pay for good senior doctors are lost in the state or to the private system. Good on you, John, I take your point there, because I was just talking about why public servants CEOs and that paying huge money, you know, half a million dollars three quarters of a million dollars even more, and we're told by the government the reason is if you want to get really good people, it's a commercial world out there and you've got to deal with the market. Well, maybe that should be the same with our public hospital doctors who work long hours in the most extreme of conditions and are underpaid. No surprise that they want more. Forest is on this afternoon. He's here after three.
01:53:03
Speaker 25: I am good morning, very well, thanks, How are you good?
01:53:05
Speaker 1: Good?
01:53:06
Speaker 25: Can I ask a personal question?
01:53:07
Speaker 7: Oh?
01:53:07
Speaker 1: Well, we can ask it or whether I'm going to answer it or not.
01:53:10
Speaker 25: How many COVID jeps have you had?
01:53:12
Speaker 1: Two?
01:53:14
Speaker 25: So the experts are suggesting we have more with the new strain coming. I'm wondering if people are going to take that advice.
01:53:20
Speaker 1: Well, the take up I'm picking figures out of my head here. Originally was about eighty ninety percent of people having COVID vaccines, and it's gradually been dropping. I think a lot of and I'm not suggesting anyone should do anything, but I'm suggesting a lot of people say enough, I've had enough.
01:53:36
Speaker 25: Yeah, It's interesting. We would do it occasionally on nights when I was there. We would talk about it. Some people have had zero and never had COVID. Some people have had eleven and never had COVID. And then there are others who are sort of toing and froing whether they have some some had five, six seven. So it'd be interesting to see the new strain that's overseas. Now they're watching her with interest. The who now, they're saying, because winter is about to hit, because the flu season is upon us, do it together. Get a COVID booster, get a flu shot, and you have a good winter.
01:54:05
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It will be interesting to see what people do with flu shots. I only started having them in the last couple of years because I'm getting to the age now that it's shaky. You know, if I get something that might bowl me over. But I've never had a flu shot before last year.
01:54:20
Speaker 25: Actually works very nice. And give us flu shots here, but you've got to get it while you're at work. What if all of a sudden, you and I get a bit of man flu after the shot, We've got to push through. I don't know if I've got that kind of constitution.
01:54:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Look, it's everyone's choice.
01:54:34
Speaker 5: You know.
01:54:35
Speaker 1: My fallback is talk to your GP. I mean, that's that's what to do. But we can all give advice, and I think if I.
01:54:42
Speaker 25: Mean, you know, compromise is probably a good idea.
01:54:44
Speaker 1: Well that's it. Yeah, certainly if you have issues, health issues, lung issues, heart whatever, take all all you can.
01:54:51
Speaker 25: So we'll talk about that tonight on the show or today on the show. Phil Hopman's going to join us to talk all things travel and I get to do Turkey Tuesday for the first time.
01:54:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that. It's a lot of fun. Yeah.
01:55:01
Speaker 25: So basically you just get to bash people, which we love, you know, with peace and love. But who's been a bit of a turkey that you can id?
01:55:09
Speaker 1: Anyone can ring up and some of them's upset them got up their nose.
01:55:13
Speaker 25: Yeah, So I'm going to tell mine a little later on. But I mistakenly thought a young girl was my daughter and it wasn't. Oh really, yeah, that's not ideal teenage girls though. That's not a good look correct close to fifty you know, face like mine doesn't go.
01:55:30
Speaker 1: Well, no, you're on. That's the case for the defense.
01:55:33
Speaker 25: I'm half a chance to win the wine myself, so that's good.
01:55:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that coming. I'm just trying to think of something that I've no, I won't. I won't brother, I won't indulge. Why had this issue? I prepare of nothing at all? And Sydney went to see the craze play.
01:55:49
Speaker 25: I saw the photo of you and Mark Keen and Neil ba Bamie. Yes, how goods Bamie. Look, Oh he's looking really well. Yeah, he's around the clubs on your socialist He is just awesome. So I said to him on Saturday night, Well, Bamie, you've set the benchmark. Now you come to the club. Things have turned around.
01:56:07
Speaker 1: You know this, this is it. We've got to win by ten goals every week.
01:56:10
Speaker 25: He might be the new Moulcolm Blight.
01:56:12
Speaker 5: Bami.
01:56:12
Speaker 25: Everything Bamie touches turns to gold. He might be the new messiah for you. Premierships at Richmond, Premierships at Norwood, Geelong, Geelong. He's a calling. He's done it all. Everywhere he goes, success follows.
01:56:24
Speaker 1: And he's just so down to earth.
01:56:27
Speaker 25: I'm excited for you.
01:56:29
Speaker 1: He just he says things that you know, you can talk about this cork about that, but it's what you do on the field.
01:56:34
Speaker 4: Boom.
01:56:35
Speaker 25: You got to speak to the masses. In ninety seven ninety eight. I remember at King William Street here in front of the town hall, when you're on the flag.
01:56:42
Speaker 5: That was you.
01:56:43
Speaker 1: I was up there.
01:56:43
Speaker 25: You might get to do it again. I'm not Stephen Rowe. I'm keeping the lid on his is blown off into the niles.
01:56:49
Speaker 1: For look, you don't win too many premierships in June, I've remember, very true. So we'll wait for that. What about your boys now?
01:56:55
Speaker 25: Is about we don't win him in June, July, August, September, we don't win any unfortunately, So no, the roller coaster interesting. I think the interesting game is in about four weeks time, Carlton v. Port Here in Adelaide. Oh okay, so because that could be curtains for both yeah, on the way down. Then we've got North Melbourne, West Coast Essen and Port Adelaide. So you could see somehow I get over the bombers, your seasons alive, somehow beat the two you know, Cellar dwellers, your seasons alive, then Port knock us off. That'll be it poor if we beat port Here.
01:57:33
Speaker 1: Cool. So that's the sports show, folks. You don't need to listen after for that's right. Good on your leaf.
01:57:38
Speaker 25: See gram.
01:57:39
Speaker 1: That's Leith Forrester coming up this afternoon with the Turkey Tuesday and so much more. Deb from Wallonga says AI and Hungry Jack's drive through is such a shame. So many young school kids start their employment journey there learning customer service. Now, that is is a really good point. There's no question that so many people have st hearted off in retail, in service industries like Hungry Jackson, McDonald's and the like. It's a good jumping off point. But if artificial intelligence can do the job young people, what next? John?
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Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning you. I just heard you're talking about AI. Earlier the other day my phone rang and I answered that there was a number I didn't know, so I said, hello, how are you going?
01:58:23
Speaker 7: Who's this?
01:58:24
Speaker 10: She goes, ah, it say so and so what's your name? And I realized it was Ai? So I said my name is? I said my name is d H. Then she goes, oh, okay, now DH, Look, I just want to know whether I can, if we can interest you and all that. I said, no, not interested. She just kept going and going and going. So it worked in robots.
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Speaker 1: So did it sound a legitimate voice or could you pick it straight away?
01:58:49
Speaker 10: You know it was legit. Yeah, it sounded like a woman. Sounded like a woman, and I thought, okay, I'll let this go because she sounds when she said something and I thought, that's not just for my name, I said, I said DH, and then she continue on with the Okay, now DH, this is what we're I just hung up on them. Look, I don't know where it was from, but it was just funny.
01:59:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:59:13
Speaker 1: No, that's great advice, John, and even better for you coming on to my Big Brunch. How about that?
01:59:20
Speaker 5: Me? Yeah?
01:59:20
Speaker 10: Oh good, okay, I'll.
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Speaker 1: Put you back to Patrick Friday the sixth, hosting my Big Brunch at the Hilton Hotel on South Road, supporting Meals on Wheels essay. I'll tell you what, it's going to be a fabulous morning. I hope to see lots of you there. If you want a chance to come along, you can register your home, your school office for the Big Brunch and support Meals on Wheels essay. Go to the Big Brunch drive dot com and congratulations to our caller there and good to see I'd like to see you at the Big Brunch too. But yeah, look that AI thing that is something to be warned about because if the voices sound so human, and that's probably a trigger if you're not too sure, and I'm not aware of what we were insinuating there with the AH, but just throw in something totally bizarre that a real human being would say, hang on, that surely isn't your name. It doesn't have to be something profane, but something totally idiotic, and if they don't respond to it, you know it's probably Ai. But AI is that sophisticated these days, There's no question about it. That is very hard to detect, and it can have a conversation with you. Didn't we that we had an Ai a voice And I can't think who she wasn't a real person an AI voice, but you played when you thought you had a scammer on the line, and she would keep the scammers talking and talking and talking. Anyway, more about that, Anon, Thank you so much for your company today, back tomorrow to do it again.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings