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Speaker 1: I had a very good morning to you on this Friday, the fourteenth day of August. Hope we find you well. Hope you can stick around for well the best part of three hours this morning. I'd love to hear from you on the show today. A two point five billion dollar taxpayer bailout of the Tomago aluminium smelter has raised serious questions according to the Institute of Public Affairs. We'll speak with Saxon Davidson from the IPA about that. We'll look at the weekend state politics with Paul Starrick. Are you looking for a job at the moment? Have you ever thought about becoming a truck driver? Apparently Australia has a major truck driving shortage and we will find out exactly what happens in that area. Because this nation relies, as we found in COVID, so heavily on trucks to move the nation. So if we run out of drivers, what is going to happen? There are calls to make the rsv VAS free to more people. That's what the AMA wants. We'll speak to them about that. Our year in review this week is nineteen seventy nine. Is that a special year?
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Speaker 2: You?
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Speaker 1: Does it? Ring any bells? Will you married in nineteen seventy nine, kids born, you bought your first house, you went on an overseas trip, rock concerts, new job. What happened to you in nineteen seventy nine? Will jog your memory with some of the major events that happened back in nineteen seventy nine. We go to look at the weekend media with Nick Hayes from Media Stable. And after almost six decades, a Port Adelaide legend is about to retire, and yet he's never kicked a ball in anger. We'll find out who it is and what he's been doing this morning. Eight double two to three, double double is the number ring. If you'd like to contribute to the show in any way, I'd love to hear from you. While the student rally against Pauline Hansen took place yesterday afternoon. They estimated about two thousand students protested against the rise of Pauline Hansen and her One Nation Party. There were students from about forty high schools and colleges across the state. They gathered on the steps of Parliament House for the protest and they joined thousands across the nation who carried banners signs and even effigies of the polarizing political leader. In the say No to Pauline Hanson rallies. Speakers included Socialist Alternative organizer Jordan Armstrong, who came on our show yesterday, and say Socialist State secretary Tom Gilchrist. They both led the crowd in chants including f Pauline Plans rights are human rights and Pauline Hanson go to Hell, take one nation there as well. When asked for his comment, the Premier Peter Malinaska said that young people being interested in politics was a good thing, but that ideally they should be at school. I agree more time spent in school. Might have seen correct spelling on one placard. I don't know if you saw it. It said there are no good racists, but unfortunately racists was misspelled racic ts. A little bit extra time in school you might have got over that one. The students have every right to protest, but I think they should be doing it outside school hours. What are your thoughts? Love to hear them. Eight double two three double DOUBLEO is the number to ring. In the sports world. A lot of conjecture about tex Walker, who announced his retirement this week. He was taken to earth. Everyone thought, of course he's playing well, he's been rested, so why did he go to Perth? Why is he there? We're going to speak with nine New Sports reporter in Perth, Braden Ingram, to find out the latest on that and preview the game craze game against Fremantle. Of course ports game a very important one here in Adelaide against Melbourne. What's happening on the show today? I hope you can join us eight double two to three double o double. Oh, let's let's take a call before they go any further at Angerston. It's Brenton, Brenton, how are you?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I've been better grime, But anyway, that's the way it goes.
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Speaker 4: Graham.
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Speaker 3: We got a little surprise. We live in the Housing Trust. We've been here for fifteen years, in the same.
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Speaker 1: Home fifty fifty years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I believe. I won't go into that, but we got a letter from the house and trust. Yeah, the state failure has upgraded what the homes were. Obviously he didn't come and have a look at the house and trust himself. And how red is going to go up forty dollars a week?
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Speaker 1: What are you paying at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Well, we are paying now three hundred. We paid the full rent because my wife works and I can't get the pension because of what you earn, and chi's only on the base of way, So we paid three hundred and thirty nine.
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Speaker 1: That's what you're paying at the moment or after the fort that's what we're.
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Speaker 3: Paying now a week. And it always used to go up ten dollars every six months, which is you know, no problem, you know that's that's fine.
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Speaker 1: So it's going up forty dollars in one hit.
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Speaker 3: It's going up forty dollars in one hit from the seventeenth of October, and then in six months time it'll go up another forty dollars. What what, I've got the letter right in front of me. It goes up another forty dollars, which will bring it up through the market value of the house. Well, like I said, they haven't had a look at the house. And it's not just us. We've been talking. All the neighbors around us will all talk, and they.
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Speaker 1: All got the letter now and everyone's being hit with a similar.
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Speaker 3: Rise with a similar ese. Yes, yes, yes, And our next one's pensions, our neighbor's long started for seating the exit lamd thet and they don't care. Forty dollars now and six months tom it's another forty.
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Speaker 1: Look, Brendon, I'm absolutely shocked to hear that. Stay with us. We'll get in touch with Nick Champions office, the Housing Minister to find out exactly what is going on. But that seems to be an outrageous increase. As you said you in the past, it's been ten dollars every six months. Now it's forty dollars in this six month and another forty dollars six months from now. We'll get to the bottom of it. Stick with us.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty past nine, five Double A this Friday morning. I just see the person that won power Ball last night, twenty million dollars. Sole winner bought the ticket with only about thirty seconds before the draw closed. Maybe it was on the last minute whim if I didn't have a ticket edit so I'm not sorry it was me, But dear Idea, how about that day thirty seconds to go. The difference between twenty million dollars and not having twenty million dollars was thirty seconds. Congratulations to them on the subject of money. A two point five billion dollar taxpayer bail out of the Tomaga and a million smelter has raised serious questions. According to the Institute of Public Affairs. Joining us now is IPA research fellow Saxon Davidson Saxon, good.
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Speaker 6: Morning to you, Good morning, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Uh, what do you make of the bailout?
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Speaker 6: What I make of it is that it's become clear I think to everybody that our manufacturing sector sectors and our energy sectors are now just basically think that provide us with our sovereign capability, the things that we need to survive and the things that we create, which so that we can rely on ourselves cannot survive the next euro transition. It's simply put that you can't create things if you are forced to reduce your emissions, because ultimately emissions is just human activity and human creation. And if you can't create and you can't act, you're not going to be able to have a manufacturing sector. That's what's become clear to me.
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Speaker 1: So do you see other major industries needing similar bayouts.
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Speaker 6: Well, we've already seen similar bailouts be applied to other smelters across the country, whether it be in Copper and Mount Eyeser up in Queensland and then also in Yala as well. So I think that this is going to be a trend that we're going to continue to see, and I think it's incredibly alarming the fact that this is becoming an increase, This is happening increasingly more often, and the government's doing nothing to change the fundamental policy policy situation that we're in. The Government's not doing anything about next hero, it's not halting the renewable transition, even though it's rising power prices, which is becoming a huge negative impact on many of our manufacturing sectors across the country.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a direct link between net zero and power affordability, Well, of course there.
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Speaker 6: Is net zero, and especially the type of nets zero transition we're doing here in Australia, which is dominated by a wind and solar, is making energy grid more unreliable because our ingie grid is not built for variable supply of energy, which means that if your energy grid is more unreliable, ultimately it means your power price is going to be more expensive.
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Speaker 1: You've mentioned the impact of the safeguard mechanism explain that to us.
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Speaker 6: So the stafeguard mechanism is the federal government marketing nets ERA policy, which impacts large projects and facilities, and what it does is that it creates an emissions cap which reduces by five percent every financial year, and what they must do is reduce their emissions to below TAP or purchase carbon credits in order to operate it to offset those those excess emissions. What's this ten. What this does is create a price on carbon, So essentially it's a carbon tax. And what we SUK yesterday was calculate the carbon tax that the Camrgo aluminium smelter is due to face up to twenty thirty, which one hundred and fourteen million dollars. Now, this is just one cost on top of a myriad of other costs that the smelter faces due to red tape emission reduction targets, and also on top of rising power prices due to nets ERA. But what this does prove is that there are a myriad of and a buzantine costs that the smelter faces and this is all due to the policy of mit ERA and before that, other emission reduction targets that have been put on foot as well.
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Speaker 1: So why can't manufacturing thrive under net zerra Well, because to.
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Speaker 6: Have a manufacturing sector, low power prices and reliable energy are a base musk like it is the minimum requirement for it to occur. Because smeltering is very emission intensive and requires a lot of energy. It's one of the largest users of energy in the South Wales. And if the grid is unreliable, it's not gonna be able to function at a very basic level.
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Speaker 1: So how can we stabilize as a grid because coal Pire five power stations are being phased out there beyond their useful life.
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Speaker 6: Well, we actually just need to create more coal fire power stations to stabilize the grid. The CSIRO a few weeks they're produced their most recent gen cost report in which they revealed that coal is the cheapest form of power when you're take into account deeds relationship with the system of the energy system, and when before that, in the previous iterations of the gencoss support they hadn't done that. They only looked at it at the asset level. And that's how Chris Bowen and a lot of other people who do believe in that zero were able to say that wind and solar are cheaper forms of energy than coal. But the cheapest energy future going forward is to actually just to bring more coal into the system and more gas.
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Speaker 1: But surely that would go against everything the government stands for.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, But ultimately the government needs to actually bring results for Australian and one of those results, as we heard many times before they were elected in May twenty twenty two, was to lower power prices. And if they want to bring results to Australians, which is ultimately what Australians also expect their government, Australians don't really expect ideological fervor. They expect results, and if results means they have to go back and admit their faults, I'm sure most Australians would appreciate that more than just continuing down the wrong path.
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Speaker 1: You're calling for the re establishment of the of coal as a major source of power. Should we be giving more thought to nuclear, which is emissions free?
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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely we should be. But ultimately nuclear is banned under the EPBC Act, and I'm all for removing that band, but it would take a while for that industry to start up. But in the meantime, we have so much coal here in Australia, just like how we have so much uranium. But if we are to start a nuclear industry in the meantime, we should be using our coal.
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Speaker 1: What about the role of gas.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm all for using gas in the system as well to firm up when perhaps we've got cold fire power station works to break down, which they do a lot. But what the government claims quite a lot that our coal fire power stations break down because they are aging, and no one can deny that. But what they don't mention is why they are aging. They are aging because they're being used as a stop gap for renewable energy as they go to their transition. But cold five power stations aren't meant to be turned on and off in the way that they are, and there is a myriad of red tape in place which prevents the operators of cold fire power stations to upgrade the power plants, which means that they're being they're being aged. There's not much that we can do to brive to reverse that aging, and we're not building any new ones. So I'm also using gas and I'm also using coal to shore off the energy grid, lower power prices and make our grid more reliable again.
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Speaker 1: Saxon graded, that's Saxon, Davidson ipa research fellow. What are your thoughts, folks? Eight double two to three doubleedow. Steve says, ree the smelter bailout. I agree one hundred percent with your last caller. Labour's energy and environmental policies are bankrupting our country. Labour bailing out to Margo Smelter Wyler near star Port, Pirie and Tasmania just pointing it on Australia's credit card. And Arthur says Graham, don't be fooled. Net zero and carbon tax is destroying Australia. They have a lot to answer for. We've got to take a break for news headlines. Then after that a week in State politics with The Advertiser Editor at Large Paul Starreck five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty eight two ten five double A This Friday Morning. On the text line, andrews says, albelize he's public framing that he asked Trump to waive all tariffs is a minimalist, defensive ask, not an assertive trade negotiation. How about saying something like Australia brings real value to the partnership. We're asking for long term critical minerals deals, fair access for our farmer's stronger ORCHUS industry guarantees, and US investment in clean energy. I like that, Andrew, Yeah, put it on the table. We are a very vital trading partner and an ally of the US. Perhaps the Prime Minster needs to be more assertive re the smelter bailout. I agree one hundred percent with your last caller. Labour's energy environment policies are bankrupting our country. How far will it go? Well, it's been a busy week in state politics as they all are joining us now as the Advertiser editor at large, Paul Starek glay.
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Speaker 7: Paul, Good morning, Graham, how are you good?
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Speaker 1: Thanks? Where do we start? The Premier back from his US trip and hit the ground running.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the AI Royal Commission was a big deal and continues to be so. He had quite an interesting time of overseas in the US, met with some fairly prominent people, most notably at Apple CEO Tim Cook, who was sort of keen to discuss around the world leading social media age band that was initiated really out of here. And the premiers move on that Tim Cook. Of course Apple Chiefs was keen to tout his own weares in terms of how apples issuing or coming up with protections for children online, which is in many people's view, a long overdue thing. And then he met with Open ai co founder Greg Brockman, also in San Francisco to come up with an agreement with the state government about how to use a chat GPD and to help, in the government's words, develop skills, drive innovation and tract investment and so forth. But I think the big deal was the AII Royal Commission. As I say, it continues to play out nationally. Michelle Gratton, a respected press gallery Douyen written a story today acclaiming that, but also suggesting that it's a pity that he is not the premier is not interested in a move to federal politics.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't know what you think. I was just going to ask you about that. I mean, the Premier is treading the boards like he is a federal politician at the moment. I mean, he started the movement of the under sixteen social media ban. A Royal commissioner to AI speaking to Tim Cook and all the heavyweights overseas. Surely those in Canberra and the Labor Party must be sort of saying is he angling for a role in Canberra?
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Speaker 7: Well, certainly at the Labour's recent federal conference here in Adelaide there was a lot of discussion in the press gallery at least about Willie or Waanty, this discussion that's been going on here in South Australia for some time. And one of the one of my colleagues in the Canberra press gallery that I was talking to, somewhat of a veteran there, made the point that if the Labor machine sees that Peter melanowskis is polling better and more likely to win elections than any other any of the other contenders, then they'll make that happen. It's a good point. Still a lot to play out, and there's a lot of other contenders and mister Albernez, he doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime fast.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the Premier I've asked him on this shows he is so proud of what he's doing for southa Strada and what says the job is still to be done, and the fact that he can attend an event and be home in fifteen minutes as opposed to having to fly in and out of Canberra every week. And he's got a young family, all reasons to stay in southa Straia. But let's face it, he is an ambitious person and his head and shoulders over anyone else in the Labor Party in terms of profile and appeal.
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Speaker 7: And I think that my immediate response to what you just said is, well, he would say that, wouldn't he. I mean, he doesn't want to fan needlessly fans speculation and that may or may not be his chosen course. I do remember when back before he was in Parliament, he had offers and there was suggestions he was going to move to go to the Senate. You know. He pondered federal politics back then, so we're talking twenty fifteen, and ruled that out and then went into the upper House at the state level and then transitioned at the next election to the lower house. I think as long as mister Melanousis continues to pretty much upstage Antony Aberzi every time he's on the same stage, then these comparisons are just going to continue to be drawn by both commentators such as myself and also within the party, and also by opponents, some of them would hope that he would lead the stage to devastraate It's I think it's going to be one of those perennial discussions until there's evidence of movement.
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Speaker 1: There's no I mean, let's face it, there's a paucity of real talent on both sides of the House, at federal and state level. So when someone like the Peter malonass comes along once in a generational politician, he stands head and shoulders above above the rest. And I mean, you know, the logical end up for him is in canber And.
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Speaker 7: I think one thing that you picked up on earlier Graham is correct. He's ambitious, and why shouldn't he be. You know, he's enterprising. He wants to see how far he can go, and at the moment, he wants to see how far he can take the state. That's what you would want in a leader, depending on your politics. I mean, well not even depending on your politics. You want someone at a state level or national level who wants it's there jurisdiction to succeed. I don't think anyone would deny amy ambition. And so, like I say, I just think you're I think You're right, he does stand out as a politician. He has for some time, way back even before he was in politics, sorry, in parliament, labor apparatchicks were announcing him as the next premier labor Premier of South Australia after Jay Weatherill. I remember way back in twenty eleven discussing that with one of the labor hardheads at the time who proved correct. And so there's there'd be nothing wrong with him wanting to go the pathways difficult, not even just from the amount of contenders that there are at a federal labor level, the fact that the Left is in charge nationally he's from the right, the fact that South Australia doesn't have a lot of seat volueure, Like you know, there's not many federal seats in South Australia compared to the rest of the country, so you've got a mass a coalition for one of a better term to gather the numbers. He would of course be aided in that by Don Ferrell, his mentor and a significantly and very influential person in Canberra. So, like I say, it's one of those things that I think will a parlor game that people will be able to play for some time until there's evidence of movement.
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Speaker 1: Well, as you said, if he is a vote win somewhere, the Labor Party would find a way. Yeah, and look a thing. You know, we're going down a path that I didn't intend going down. But ideologically things would change because Peter Mallanaskers has never ruled out looking at the nuclear factor. He's always said, you know, if it's stacked up, and I mean the Prime Minister sat on him and said, oh, he's allowed one mistake when he talked about it before. But we know he believed is that there could be a role for nuclear if it was seen to be financially workable. And he's obviously the state government here is realized that renewables can't do it alone. He's reintroduced the need for gas, affirming power and the like. So he's far more open than the current Labor leadership. So if he was in Candra, I think we could see quite considerable change.
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Speaker 7: Well it's funny that you should say that, because my column for today tomorrow is looking at the AI Royal Commission, and I'd argue that one of the things that should consider if as the Premier has said that it's looking forward and looking at opportunities. Is a nuclear energy powering data centers?
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's what's happening in the US and a key ally the advancement of technology in the nuclear field. Small modular reactors are expected to become scalable and economic scale within a few years. If we're looking at the rapidly evolving technology. If the Royal Commission is capable of looking at the rapidly evolving technology of artificial intelligence, why is it they're not able to consider whether or not nuclear energy will be economic for Australia and able to pay data centers?
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Speaker 4: A good point.
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Speaker 7: You can't ignore the the foundation of AI, the sort of the generator of it. It requires data centers to work and.
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Speaker 1: They need gobs full of power, that's right. And did you see that the story about the big data center being built in Melbourne that will require as back up forty eight diesel generators and one million liters of diesel fuel on site at any time. Now, it's just a backup. It won't run off that. But you know there's nothing more dirty than diesel fuel, that's right.
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Speaker 7: And you know we saw how fragile grids can be with a recent blackout, with the destruction of interruption, I should say to the substation near Rundle Mall a couple of weeks ago when it flooded. I'm not saying that that was anything other than an accident, but you can see how why grid security is important and why stable reliable power is important because that shut down a vast part of the state central business district on a Friday.
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Speaker 1: And that's untenable if it was to happen on a regular basis. Finally, before I let you go, paul the anti Pauline Hansen student rally. What did you make of it?
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Speaker 7: Well, my colleague Aiden Hill went along to that yesterday and he reported on that the chants by the students were quite organized, you know, obviously designed to get a good social media impact. I thought that Corey Bernardi deserve credit for actually fronting up to it, as opposed to hiding around in his office. You know, he put forward his point of view in a somewhat mischievous video.
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Speaker 5: Good on him.
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Speaker 7: He's entitled to do that, as are the students entitled the protest, some would argue as the premier repute to suggest that they'd be better off in school. But you know, we were in a functioning democracy where peaceful protest is a right. If the kids want to go and do that, and they have parental poission to do so, you know, good luck to them. They might be. I do wonder about the extent to which it's fanned by political parties, but again good luck to the political parties if they can organize that. I think that core Nardi's message was very strong, you know, getting school and why aren't you and the socialist architects the puppet masters of the of the protest. So you know, I guess there's a summary of the points of view.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interest interesting to see how the next rally goes. Paul always great a chat. Thanks for your time today, Jeez, Graham, thank you, and we'll look out for your article online and in the Advertiser. The Week in Review, Advertiser Editor at Large, Paul Starik.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twelve minutes, two ten five double A. This Friday morning. The All Lords is done by fifty eight points a s sx two hundred done by also or fifty six points. In fact, Darl Jones was up by sixty nine points. Nasdaq up by two hundred and fourteen. As for oil, Brent crude a seven US dollars a barrel West Texas crewed eighty one US dollars a barrel gold three hundred and fifty eight US dollars an ounce. The Aussie dollar currently buying seventy point six US cents. We rely on so much truckies. I think COVID really highlighted the fact that truckies carry the nation. Well, if you're looking for a job, maybe you should think about becoming a truck driver, because evidently we have a major truck driver shortage, and you report warns the shortfall will worsen a's freight demand surgeres by a huge amount by twenty fifty. Joining US now is NAT Road CEO Warren Clark. Warren, Good morning to.
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Speaker 4: You, morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Just how serious is the problem?
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Speaker 8: Oh, look, it's a big issue. I think Australia now has the oldest truck driving workforce out of all the country surveyed, where forty of our drivers are over fifty five. So it's a it's a major issue, and we've got it, Like you said, we've got a freight task that's you know, it's going to increase by fifty seven percent by twenty fifty. So, yeah, it's problem.
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Speaker 1: So have you got any a figure that can put on it? How many drivers do you need? Hello, Warren, are you there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Sorry, just dropped out.
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Speaker 1: Oh have you got any idea how many drivers you'd need?
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Speaker 8: Well, they're about twenty nine thousand short as we speak. Yeah, twenty nine thousand. That's a lot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. So why don't you think younger people are being attracted to trunk driving?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's pretty simple. We've been highlighting for some time that we need consistent training, consistent career paths across the country and we just can't get it. So the government cannot pull it together. And when you're a young person, if you don't know that this avenue and this job opportunity exist, then you're not going to come into it. So if you're coming out of school, you want to be able to sit down and go, Okay, I've got this career path and this is how it looks. That's what these guys are looking for. And at the present time, you know, we just can't actually get the states to coordinate at all and to the federal government to actually put something in place that's consistent across the country.
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Speaker 1: So what would you like to see happen? Warren? Are you there?
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Speaker 8: Yeah? Sorry, I'm on the raid and it's just dropping out.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, So what would you like to see happen?
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Speaker 8: Well, what we'd like to see is we'd like to see consistent training programs across the country that are not just in a classroom, but they're hands on and practical training. And we'd also like to see reforms to the licensing system. So the careers are there, the money.
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Speaker 6: Is there, the jobs are there, the opportunities are there.
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Speaker 8: It's just those things that really need a good shake up.
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Speaker 1: We hear from people that it can be a pretty tough life, is it.
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Speaker 8: Look with trucking, Look we make no bones. Like you work hard, but you also get paid well to do those jobs. Now people talk down the truck drivers wage, but you know those guys out in the road, they're any good money. They're working hard, they're long hours, but the industry works very hard now to give them quality of life as best they can. But people come in, they do work hard, they get paid well, and then they can go on with their life, their personal life. On the weekend.
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Speaker 1: So can you give us a figure what kind of average trucking you expect to earn over a year.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think we did a thurday a couple of years ago, and you know, the top of the range guys doing in a state in some areas probably earning north of over two hundred thousand dollars a year. But the average guy is earning more than one hundred thousand dollars a year. Once they're trained, they'll be doing you know, in a state intrastate. Most of our freight is moved within the capital cities. Those guys are you know, they come out, they get their license, they get minimal sort of training. They're probably on about one hundred thousand dollars. So that's not bad money. I have a heck's debt. You walk out, you're almost your own boss. But like I say, you work hard, you get paid, and you know, you get to live your life.
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Speaker 1: Well, as you said, at the top end, two hundred thousand dollars, that's pretty good.
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Speaker 8: I yeah, those guys are experienced drivers, probably driving high productivity vehicles. But you know, it's good money. There's a lot of technology in the trucks. There's a lot of technology in the trailers and the combinations, and they've got a lot of responsibility. They've got the road users around them. But these guys are good, they're professional, and they do a good job. And what we've got to remember is that everything we see on our kitchen table or in our house at some stage has been on a truck.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the important thing is I was just thinking that some would sort of say, look, I don't want to become a truckie because I'm traveling into state all the time, and say forth, well, I guess you don't need to do that. I mean, you could just be a metropolitan driver.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and there's a lot of business that quite cater for those drivers. So you know, for instance, you might go you might have a job where you go from Sydney to with Donga two or three days a week, or you know, you can pick and choose. Basically, you know, it's not that you have to get in the truck and every job is driving and you're home away from home every two weeks. Some guys love that, you know, they do. But they're a special group of guys and they do a great job of it. But most of the freight is intrastate and a lot of those guys a home of a night with their families, and you know they live a good life.
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Speaker 1: Somebody's texted in saying truck drivers face fines of twenty six thousand dollars for logbook faults. Now, why would anyone want to be a truck driver?
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Speaker 8: Well, that person's come up with a very good point, because we're always fighting against the government on those sort of fines. The fine doesn't fit the crime, if that makes sense. That person's raised a very good point. But what the government does continually say that to get a twenty six thousand dollars fine for a logbook error or some sort of fatigue error, you've got to be a serial offender. They're not just going to come out and find your twenty six grand if you make an an honest mistake. That's someone who's pushed the rules and pushed the boundaries and being caught numerous times and they just don't learn. So very rare that people would get that fined. But hey, they're right, they are definitely there, and we argue against those sort of crazy things all the time.
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Speaker 1: Now, no doubt, why don't there be people listening at the moment of thinking, I'd never thought about that. That's pretty good money. If someone wanted to find out more about becoming a trucky, what do they need.
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Speaker 8: Today, Well, there's plenty trucking firms across the country. They just need to find someone who's within their area. I mean, you think about a university student, right, there's casual truck driving jobs where they can be doing like one, two, three days a week. They can basically choose what they want. It's sure, you know. It's working in a coffee shop pulling coffee and bars, pulling, pulling beers and things like that, where they can know they can work for three days a week and then they're off and doing their life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you warrant. Thanks for that all the us in your quest to get more drivers. But that's an amazing thought that we could be short of fifty seven percent of drivers by twenty fifty eight. Double two to three double O double Mark. You're a former trucking What would you like to add to the conversation.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, hang on, I just got job. Yes, yeah, look now, I've done a lot of miles on the road, mate, and driven near to state a lot. I've driven around Australia on one job NonStop except for my brakes. Of course, we're just a brakes and you're still there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Sorry.
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Speaker 9: And so ten years ago I put it to this company or a major Australian company, that we needed to start the training program where young people could be trained up on light trucks, heavy ridge and then into your heavy combination, in your multi combination with drivers have learned how to drive long distance with the TEG management as my dad taught me. And I said, it'd be an extensive program. And of course we're running out of drivers. I told people this ten years ago. I'm out of the industry now. And he said it's easy to go and get someone from India. And that was the attitude. And prior to that, why we're missing losing so many drivers is the owner drivers have been screwed over year after year after year by the big companies and the attitude for many many decades in industry is just sacked, sack a driver for the slightest, slightest reason, and now we'll get plenty of one. The shelf was the term. So the industry is bordered upon themselves and now that the only solution now is just to get more drivers some Indian that's why you see more people Indians on the road driving trucks and the higher risk involved because they're not used to driving such a normal distance at such spees and they don't understand Like, for example, I could always tell if I had a truck coming towards their here as an experienced drive, because you'd move over to the folk line as I would to give yourself as much room between trucks as possible. But now the people just travel down the white line. They don't understand merging, they don't understand how to use overtaking lanes, and no one's training anybody coming through the industry. And I fear for the livestock industry in particular because that is very difficult work, very long hours, and once that's generation of livestock drivers are gone, good luck, Good.
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Speaker 1: On your mark. Thanks for for your input and your insight. Earlier, we had to call a saying they lived in a Housing Trust home. Their rent has gone up forty dollars a week and then six months will go up another forty dollars. Housing Minister Nick Champion will come on on the other side of the news to talk to us about the rental rises.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with gram Goodings seven.
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Speaker 1: Past ten to five double A. On ThisDay morning earlier a caller Brenton and Anguston rang up to say his Housing Trust rent has gone up forty dollars a week and the letter said another forty dollars in six months time. Housing Minister Nick Champion joins us now Minister that seems a pretty hefty increase.
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Speaker 10: Well, Graham, the same thing I should say. This is not applying to all Housing Trust residence. There's a small cohort of residence who are on what's called a market rent system. Any Trust tenant who gets a letter who's on the market rent center a system he thinks it's going above thirty per cent of their income should contact the trust and of course they'll be put on their income assessed system.
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Speaker 4: If that's the case.
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Speaker 10: With this small cohort who are on a market rent system, they've basically there's been an old system in place that was put in place in nineteen ninety six and basically what it is capped the market rent system. And so what we've got in several of these circumstances who are people who are on quite high incomes who are in housing trust times, but who aren't paying market rent even though they're on a market rent system. And so what we're doing is just putting in place a new rent cap, going up from ten dollars to forty dollars to get those people back closer to the market rent system which they are on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's saying he's paying three hundred and forty or thirty nine at the moment. As you said in the past, that's gone up in ten dollars increments, now forty dollars this time, forty dollars in six months time. So that's eighty dollars in twelve months. That's a huge percentage increase.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's right, But if it starts to breach thirty percent of his income, he can go on to the income assess system, which is obviously there for the vast majority of trust tenants. Most trust tenants are on a thirty percent of their income, which is a very generous rent subsidy. All of the trust has a fairly generous rent subsidy. There are a small cohort of housing that's in a market rent system where people might be paying far less than the thirty percent of their income, and so effectively, what we've got is people who have got quite reasonable incomes who are in housing trusts, are homes who are on a market rent system, but who aren't paying market rents. So we're changing that basically, so all of this extra rent goes back into the system, goes back into the system for maintenance, for new homes and for the good of the housing trust.
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Speaker 1: He was suggesting that when you talk about maintenance, he said, you know, no one's even looked to see the standard of his property.
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Speaker 10: Well, we actually run a you know, putting more money into maintenance than ever before. We've just put an additional ten minute dollars a year into maintenance, and that is obviously an issue. But you know, obviously what restricts maintenance budgets or the budget to build is if we have people in the housing trust who have got good incomes but whom are paying a highly subsidized rent, who should be paying market rent. So, you know, as I said before, a small number of housing trust tenants who are on a market rent system as opposed to the income assessed a system. The vast majority of trust tenants on income assessed no more than thirty percent of their incomes. If anybody who's getting these letters are think that we're breaching the thirty percent of income, they can go into the income assessed system. We're just doing these changes to modernize the trust and to make sure people are paying their appropriate rent for their income.
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Speaker 1: You talk about market rent, that's obviously what if you wanted to sell the property on the market. The prices are coming down, Housing prices are coming down. Could these people expect a drop in their rental in the future.
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Speaker 10: That's unlikely because with effectively, what the old system did, which was probably left in place for too long and was too generous, was that the gap between, if you like, the market rent and the rent that we were charging was growing ever larger by the year, and had we kept the cap in place, it would have grown ever larger. And what that meant, Graham, is that some people were getting a fantastic deal even though they should have been paying market rent. And what we're trying to do is, you know, charge people the appropriate rent for the system that they're on. Often people have got you know, might be working or have quite high incomes but are in a Housing Trust home but paying market rent. But they're not actually paying that because of these caps, so we're releasing the caps. These increases you might seem large, but if in effect that reflects the subsidy in effect that every taxpayer and and the Housing Trust itself was effectively giving to these residents.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned a figure of ten million dollars going towards Housing Trust repairs, any idea how many trust homes are currently empty awaiting repairs.
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Speaker 10: So we have a very low vacancy rate for what's called offerable properties. It's about one point three percent, and that really is just the time it takes for someone to move out and someone to move in again. But there are about somewhere between fifteen and seventeen hundred homes at any one time which are vacant because we're renovating them, new bathrooms, new kitchens, and typically that happens as a tenant might die or move into age care or move out. We often have to you know, might have lived there for a very long time, and that's the time obviously to know to do major renovations while there's no tenant in there, and that's part of our broader deep maintenance to feel like system. And then you basically give homes that might have been built in place and zero or Dunstan zero or in the eighties. You get another ten to fifteen yes out of them if.
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Speaker 1: You do that, Minister, thanks for your time today. That's Nick Champion Housing Minister. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to ring well. The RSV virus cases have more than tripled in eight weeks. It's prompted a call from the Australian Medical Association and joining us now is president Associate Professor Peter Subermanium Professor good ponding to you. Are you there, Yes, Yes, I'm here, Yeah, Yeah, I've been in among COVID and flu and so forth. It looks like RSV is particularly dangerous at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think you know your interrupted remarks is really underpins it. It's tripled over the last eight weeks, has brought the number of cases confirmed up to around six and a half thousand, and it's something that is preventable. There is a national immunization program that does cover people over the age of seventy five, pregnant women, which means that you know, new bonds are protected if pregnant women are vaccinated. There is an injectable monoclonal antibody for infants who are not who are susceptible, so that's also covered. And the first Australians under the over the age of sixty they're covered with a free vaccination. What we're calling for is expanding that to include people over the age of sixty five in residential age care facilities because these are the people who are at risk of RSV and you know, that would reduce the number of people that are fronting up to our already overcrowded and stressed public hospital system. So that's what we're calling four gram.
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Speaker 1: What is the cost if you have to on pay for an RSV vaccine?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's significant.
00:46:04
Speaker 11: It's three hundred dollars.
00:46:06
Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: The thing I should also say is that the immunity conferred is about a decade, so it's a sort of one time vaccination at this stage. But that is an impost financial impost and you know, we've looked at the evidence from across the border. West Australia has expanded the commonwealth funded program with what we understand is a state funded expansion to cover that group that I've just mentioned, the over sixty fives who are in residential age care homes. They're the groups that we should be protecting from the impacts of RSV.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: So there's a federal program, as you said, it's over seventy five. Western Australia has introduced it's a state program for sixty fives. So you'd like to see the same thing happen in southers data if that were the case. How quickly could it be implemented if they.
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Speaker 2: Agreed implemented is we've got as far as I understand, we've got supply, and it's not sixty five over sixty fives Gramm, I just want to focus it on sixty fives in residential.
00:47:20
Speaker 1: Age care, all right, yep, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So you know, Graham, we've probably discussed this before. Every month we talk about the thousands of hours on the ramp and that's an ongoing problem. There's incremental improvements month to you know, comparing last year to this year. But June's July's figures were quite significant. They were the third longest hours and that's because of the increased demand. So what we're saying is, let's treat the course, identify those that we can protect from you know, contributing to that impact. Plus, of course, healthcare workers are at risk. If day fall sick, then it's harder for us to take care of the people that we need to take care. This is a fairly straightforward way of addressing the cause and not just treating the queue.
00:48:12
Speaker 1: So you suggested rs WE could last for a decade or so. It's that unlike a flu virus that there seems to be a new strain in every season.
00:48:23
Speaker 2: Register also support the Chief Public Health Officers commentary on flu. We seem to be showing less blue cases this year than last year, but that's not because the flu season is over. Now winter might be coming to an end, but you might recall that last year we had quite a lot of cases in summer. Now that's the subclad K variant, and so what happens is you have those that immunity because you had flu last year. Now that immunity doesn't last long. What we are concerned about is people not getting vaccinated for flu. And I'm talking about flu here, not RSP, because the flu cases are likely to increase in the next two to three months, so even after winter is over. I take the opportunity here to call on people who haven't had their flu vaccination to get themselves vaccinated by their GPS as soon as they can, because you still want to protect yourself from flu because the flu season is certainly not over.
00:49:37
Speaker 1: Professor, great to chat. Thanks for your time. I am a SA president, says you a Professor Peter Supermanium on the RSV virus and the importance of getting a flu vax.
00:49:47
Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty two past ten. Your calls in a moment, but we have not to double passes to give away. In fact, two double passes family passes and thank to the Royal Show and a double pass to see commentary at the Dunston Playhouse right now between now and midday. Frank, good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 12: Always love your show mate. I just want to say something about.
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Speaker 8: The RSV virus.
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Speaker 12: I encourage all those people out there listening to five Double A who are not sure about getting the RSV you know, humming and haring three hundred dollars.
00:50:26
Speaker 2: I got it.
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Speaker 12: I'm seventy years old and I got it, and I know if you're over eighty for free.
00:50:34
Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 12: The nurse practitioner that I spoke to and that made me think twice too, said to me, we're talking about oh you know what. I was telling him, I'm not sure it's.
00:50:42
Speaker 8: What too much money and all this.
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Speaker 12: He said, I had a patient some time ago who and this same passion didn't want to get it, just didn't want to get it, didn't want to spend three hundred dollars. That same person that he spoke to died. Now this virus rus rus the virus. I don't believe it's just for older people. It's even young people have died, you know, with this virus. And so I went and got it and paid the three hundred dollars. But I say this to all those people out there listening, ask this question to yourself, how much do you value your life? Do you value it more than three hundred dollars? I just want to finish off that run.
00:51:30
Speaker 1: Good on your Frank, Thanks for your cool Julie and Blake.
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Speaker 14: Julie, good morning, Graham. I trust your world. You're sounding much better now.
00:51:37
Speaker 1: Ah yes, fly a fighting fit.
00:51:40
Speaker 14: You've got that bounce in your voice, so obviously your voice is so much better.
00:51:45
Speaker 1: Thank you.
00:51:47
Speaker 14: Look, I have to commend you yesterday on your interview with I don't even know what the guy's name was, the protester guy who's the leader? Whoever he was, my blood was boiling, I think when you opened your mouth first, so I don't think I caught his name. Yeah, whatever, I was going to ring, and I thought no, for fear of being dumped, and I respect you and your show too much to do that, I refrained from doing it. But I must say I was absolutely astonished that he didn't have any problems with the amount of immigrants and illegal immigrants that came into our country. It's like open the borders, just let them all in, and he did not have a problem with that whatsoever. And the frightening part program is they are our future teachers, doctors, lawyers, and dare I say it, politicians, and that's what we have to look forward to. I saw them on TV last night, and I know not everybody has that opinion, that go to school and unis and whatever, but they just look like rental crowds. And like you said, you picked up some and I saw it too, the wrong spelling, and I thought, well, you know, if you spent more time in the classroom, perhaps you would be able to spell. You would be able to count out change in a shop, which a lot of them can't do. If you give them, say it's ten sixty, and you give them twenty dollars sixty or something. They had no idea what to do. And I answered to my husband, if I had children of school age, and all due respect to your daughter, whom I believe is a teacher, yes he is, and I'm sure a very good one. Look, I'm sure she's.
00:53:41
Speaker 13: A very very good teacher.
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Speaker 14: I am looking at the rest of the family, I have no doubt at all. But I answered to my husband, I would not let my children anywhere near some of those teachers and the curriculum of the homeschool my kids. And that's that's not a very good thing that you know, you should be thinking. You think you should be able to send your children off to school and not have them radicalized or have them brainwashed with all that diatribe that they were, you know, screaming out yesterday. And I know everybody's you know, have their own opinion, but some of it is just so left wing that it can become a dangerous grim.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, TRULYE no, I hear what you're saying. Look, I to have no problem with students protesting and demonstrating and having political views I'm very much against the fact that they're doing it in school time. I would like to know, you know, they say are about two thousand there if it was after school hours on a Saturday or a Sunday afternoon, how many would they get turned up? I'm wondering what is behind it? I mean, a teachers, I don't think spontaneously students in the playgrounds are hey, let's protest against whoever it happens to be. It seems to be driven from some direction now, as I say, you know, I would feel the same way if it was an anti Anthony Albanezi protest or an anti coalition protest. I just don't think it should be generated from within the school system and kids be given time off school to go and demonstrate or protest. Now, it used to happen way back in the Vietnam War days, but that was UNI students, and I think UNI students are a bit different and effectively they're adults and they can be more liberal in their thinking or labor in their thinking. But when it comes to secondary students, I think they're better placed in the classroom. After class by all means, protest and demonstrate whoever what you think, But Yeah, that's my thought anyway. Eight double two to three double O double oh. Regarding the Housing Trust, Bell says, if there are people on good incomes, why are they still in public housing regardless of what they pay? These are for aged, pensioners and disabled, low income. The system needs to move these people to move out. Thank you for that Bell. Eight double two three double oh doubble is the numbered ring.
00:56:01
Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Minutes two eleven and five double A This Friday morning, If you love your food and let's face it, who doesn't be listening to Leith Forest today just after two thirty when Chris Charmer from Chalmer's Kitchen joins him for Foody Friday. Thanks to Smeg and Pals. Are you building or renovating? Your first choice should be visiting the Smeg showroom at Debuity. Debney Distributors takes the difference with Smegh and Pals. Leith Forrest will be in the studio just before midday to tell us about the show and make me really envious when he tells me what Chris Chalmer is going to cook. Be listening stay tuned. Big Weekend of a Sport coming up. But it doesn't get any bigger than tonight. The Crows are in Perth playing freo. A win would see them end up in the four. Possibly a loss could see them fighting for the remains, the remnants of the reper charge, as you might call it. Nine Sports reporter Braiden Ingram is in Perth. He joins us, Now, Brayden, how you doing?
00:56:58
Speaker 11: Yeah, very well, thank you. Here is a great day in Adelaide.
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Speaker 15: It is a stunning day in Perth, so if you've made the trip over as a Crows fan, you're loving it. Although I imagine a fair bit of nervousness ahead of this game as you say so much on the line. But yeah, headed for a top of twenty two, so cracking day of football which you'll kick off.
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Speaker 11: So no excuse forty tonight.
00:57:18
Speaker 1: I mean the Crows struggled in the wet last week, so a nice dry deck might be good news.
00:57:24
Speaker 15: Yes, but we do know with Optus it was interesting. I saw right Phil Thought kicking a little bit yesterday getting a feel for it, and quite a few of the Dockers players I heard on local radio here yesterday were asked about the quality of the Opta service. It has been a bit of a sticking point that it can be slippery at times, even in great conditions. So if you're see players slipping over tonight, you know why.
00:57:44
Speaker 11: It's the deck that has been a bit of an issue for.
00:57:47
Speaker 8: A while now. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was over in Perth for the game against the West Coast West Coast and I was talking to Text before the game and they had a run on the deck and he said it was really slippery and not good at all. Well, Text won't be playing the time. Explain that to me. Why have the Crows taken Text to Perth only to say he's going to sit it out.
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Speaker 15: I was going to ask you the same question, Graham. I thought you might have had a word to Text because I have no idea. I think that's the answer that's got everyone and I'm sure yourself scratching your head. So why has he come over if he's going to be rested? And I do wonder sometimes that footy clubs don't say they don't concern themselves with the pr and how they're viewed. Perhaps they should have on this one, because he's come over here, he's trained, he looks good to go, but then they've listed him as managed.
00:58:35
Speaker 11: The club was very coy yesterday.
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Speaker 15: I think even Mary Davis was on with the boys in the afternoon as late as around five pm and still was very coy on whether Text would play or not. So part of it seems like has he been managed or is it more of a we actually think this is a better lineup, We're a better side perhaps without him. Now, the original plan was always to rest him for this game. Text really open about that, but then the question is asked, well, why has he made the journey? So if you look at the counterpoint as to why they may have done it, when I think they played that game against the Eagles that you spoke about just a second ago, that was when Riley Silthorpe got ill the.
00:59:12
Speaker 11: Day of the game made you didn't have a tool to bring in. They had to bring in.
00:59:14
Speaker 15: I think Billy Downing was late in and not really or clearly not a like for like. But I know if you speak to footy fans this morning, it's been to some of old colleagues, it's just like, what the heck is going on? This doesn't make any sense, And look, it might be the absolute right decision. I do wonder as well as Text just wanted to come over because it's going to be one of his last road trips.
00:59:35
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's really Yeah, it could be because I've been told Ned McHenry has said that it's the best trip. The players love the Perth trip. I guess they spend more time together, you know, they get well away from the East Coast and so forth. They really enjoy it. So maybe you know, for text a swansong, you knows the last roundup.
00:59:56
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I've come a day early, so it's a great bonding environment and that time. So I totally get that, but I think then you need to be upfront, and I get you also don't want to give away what your team is to the opposition. But I think on this occasion it's left the fan base a little bit bewildered.
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Speaker 11: And I know that that's not everything.
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Speaker 15: I know that, you know, we're not entitled to know any everything as the media and as the fans, but it seems like a curious decision to list him has managed How can you rest a bloke if you're traveling him on three our flight across you know?
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Speaker 11: So I think I think.
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Speaker 15: It's a an It's the one that's going to create debate right up until the start of this game. I know ROWI was very strong on it last night. He clearly thinks texts in the Best twenty two. It made the point that Murray Davis said this is a dress rehearsal.
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Speaker 11: Well, if it's a dress rehearsal.
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Speaker 15: And texasn't playing, does that suggest then that he's not in your best twenty three. So there's more questions than answers we have at the moment. We'll hear from Nathan van Berlow on nine News tonight, so I'm interested to his his take and clearly Matthew Nicks after this match.
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Speaker 11: But if we we move on to the game.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's huge, it's huge, Yeah, it's huge Fremantle coming off a loss last week. They're not going to have two losses in a row leading up to finals. And the Crows have made six changes, so you know there's a lot of balls in the air.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, and that's the thing you've got to remember as well. They haven't lost here in Perth this season the Dockers, so this has literally been a fortress.
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Speaker 11: We know the crowd and how they get right behind them.
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Speaker 15: Clearly some handy ins bringing back in Saligo, Nan, Curvis Borlets among others. But you've got to remember as well, and this is the other reason why I thought the the decision on Walker was curious. Alex Neilbourne stayed home ahead of the birth of his second child, so with Rory led back in the side, they're still missing two of their three most experienced players in Texas Neilbourne. I just thought an environment like this, a tough road trip, that sort of experience would be in value. So that's invaluable. So that's another factor in it. Dan Curtin spoke to him last night. He suggested that he's going to head back to a wing with now Saligo, Berrying Petling all back in that side, and Darcy Foggerty returns, so that is a huge win.
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Speaker 11: He's clearly going to be fired up.
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Speaker 15: The fact that he hasn't played the last three games for his suspension he and the club definitely thought was an overreach. So if he comes out and performs rather Phil forbe is able to find his best. He did struggle in the wet last week. Understandably, it looks like they're going to remove the second ruck duties from him, given the fact that Toby Murray has come into the side, so you think he's in there to second ruck alongside Lockie mc andrews. So they've made a lot of changes. They are close to their best side, or be it without Wayne Miller and the alfore mentioned texts, Hey, let's go, let's see, let's see what they've got and this they can take it up to the likely minor premiers.
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Speaker 1: Well, meanwhile, back in Adelaide Port face Melbourne, that will be a tough contract.
01:02:46
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, look, I think they're just waiting for the finish line now, but we know Josh Carr has continued to pump this group up and try and get them to perform.
01:02:54
Speaker 11: Clearly some handy ins. Joe Richards will return to that midfield.
01:02:57
Speaker 15: I mean when he broke his finger that game, he had thirty one touches and kick the goal, so I think that if I remember correctly, that was against Freemantle as well, so he performed really well. He comes back into the side after that surgery and he's recovered from that. Miss George Yady as well back in that forward line, so at least they've got a bit more firepower to try and take on Melbourne. Who well, look if you're if you're the Crows, you're really hoping you can get on the.
01:03:20
Speaker 11: Powers bandwagon and they can help you out exactly.
01:03:23
Speaker 15: And somehow upset the Demons because that's in a real race with Geelong and Melbourne.
01:03:28
Speaker 11: The Crows are for that top four spot.
01:03:30
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Jason horn Francis is leaning up?
01:03:35
Speaker 11: Yeah, a little bit.
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Speaker 15: I mean if he's clearly fine, he's clearly okay. But you do wigh with these sort of injuries when it is around the knee area, did you just go, hey, let's just pack it up. But clear mit, it goes to tick him off and he's good to go fingers crossed.
01:03:48
Speaker 11: That proves me the case. Once he gets through the game tomorrow.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: Well, great to chat. Good on your Brandon and I hope it's a very eventful trip back on the flight because the boys are won exactly.
01:03:59
Speaker 11: Thanks Graham, appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: Monday's his mate.
01:04:01
Speaker 1: Great Ingram nine News sports reporter over in Perth, back after the News five Double A Mornings.
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Speaker 5: With Graham Goodings.
01:04:10
Speaker 1: Past eleven and five Double A on a Friday morning. We still have two double passes to give away to the Royal Show. It could be you if you're one of our callers between midday eight double two three double oh double? Oh no, Nick, you're not qualify your You lean into the microphone. They're like, oh, can I have for passes? Oh no?
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Speaker 4: How did he get to showtime already?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it is sn't real. But if you've just tuned in Nick Hayes from Media stable to join him in the studio, Yeah, yeah, always amazing. When we get the showtime, you think where did the rest of the year go? I mean, you know, once the showtime you're on downhill slave into Christmas.
01:04:43
Speaker 4: Then well, next thing you know, it is the Christmas pageant and then it's it's Christmas.
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Speaker 1: It's croaky anyway, what's been happening in the media this week?
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Speaker 4: Well, funny enough, Graham. I just felt this week has actually been a very quiet week in the whole scheme of things. If you can put it in comparison to the rest of the year, it seems as it seems as though it's been a little quiet, but there's always something happening, and always something happening, particularly in media. Of course, Donald Trump is always going to be number one, The Prime Minister is always going to be number two. They've been talking. They've been talking.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister on television very early this morning. I thought he hasn't much sleep, that he's been talking to the Trump moister.
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Speaker 4: See, this is the interesting thing with the Prime Minister. He was criticized very early on, particularly in the Trump days, when he wasn't even able to get a line with the President of the United States, and now he's talking to him overnight and having a good chat. But obviously they were talking tariffs, they were talking trade, they're talking orcus and look, I think, you know, we only hear what the Prime Minister's got to say about how those conversations went. Many of us probably not too sure as to how they do play out, but we'd like to see better relationships with the United States. It's supposed to be our best ally, but sometimes you get I feel like we get treated like we're the sort of the discipline. Like the way Trump goes about it is, you know, we're supposed to be his best mate, but he treats us like we're almost the enemy. Yeah, and that's a sense and feel.
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Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 4: I know Trump supporters won't say that, they won't feel that, but it's that's just the way that it sort of comes across.
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Speaker 1: We had a text earlier who made a good point that Alberz he should be far stronger about saying, oh, we'd like you to waive the you know, the tariffs and so forth. I mean, we are a key supporter of the US yep, you know, we supply so much to them. We are, you know, asset rich, minerals rich. You know, we've got this orcsteel and there's so much that's intertwined between the countries. We should be a bit more forceful.
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Speaker 4: I think we should, and I think there's a lot of support in the Congress as well in the United States is to be looking after this relationship that they've got with US and and and cherish it and really develop it further and take it to another level. But it just doesn't seem to come across that like that. With Donald Trump. I think that's what he does with the whole world. Oh, Donald Trump just treats everyone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not singlings out, No he's not.
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Speaker 4: And to be fair, we probably do get a slightly better deal. But what has been interesting is that even with our overseas product and what we've been selling into the United States. It has not dropped off. In fact, if anything, it's got better. So you know, this is all bravado at the end of the day, that he plays a big game, but whether it actually works or delivers for the United States is a whole other thing. The other big thing that happening during the week grain was the Reserve Bank. They said they sat on it. They didn't want to move them up or down, they just sat on the number. That's really causing major concern for people with regards to the price of their house and what it's valued. The value seemed to have been dropped off, not so much here in Adelaide, if East Coast, if you're Melbourne or Sydney, you're seeing your house drop quite dramatically. I'm not sure that's happening over in Perth, but it's actually having a major effect to the point that come Wealth Bank, the biggest bank in Australia, has seen over twenty percent drop off of home loan's requests. So it's huge. That is a huge job and we're seeing this happen. So the governments under a little bit of fire for that. But is that the twist is that the turn that needs to happen for people to get into homes, for younger people to get into homes.
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Speaker 1: It could be yeah, yeah, and that's on hold. I mean, the other is full shadowed that they're still not going to go up. Interest rates will go up.
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Speaker 4: They yeah, And that's the suggestions there from all the professionals. But who knows. Who knows, because I sometimes it's just a big raffle. The other big one the Pauline Hands and I know you've been covering her on your show, and you had the student on yesterday. This rally went national. And the thing that frustrates me, Graham, is that as a public relations professional and as someone who's talks strategy and communications strategy with a lot of organizations, I've to get the students and put them in a and I'll actually take them for a lesson about what this actually does in reality, what it actually does when you put these rallies on, and particularly the way some of them have behaved. Now, sure media does focus on certain elements of the way that a crowd will behave, but what this protest actually does is just emboldens the One Nation movement. If you're a believer in Pauline Hands and one nation, you are now even further locked in. But what it actually really does is then opens the door to those that have been sitting on the fence and go, oh, actually, maybe Pauline might be on the money with all of this. Because of this kind of behavior that's going on. The protest doesn't work anymore. The protest like that doesn't work. And I want to say, hats off to a lot of the schools here in South Australia because they sent out messages to parents saying we don't condone this. You know, if you want your child there at that protest, it's on you. It's not going to be a school sanctioned event at all. So yeah, I just it frustrates me, and I think it frustrates a lot of the listeners, and it frustrates a lot of people seeing that kind of thing, and it does get us talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no question, as I said to you before, off here it's given Pauling hands oxygen. I mean, if people stopped talking about her, she's not making headlines like she was when you know she rated twelve points or whatever. Yep, she was just incidental to the main main game spot on how she is the main game.
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Speaker 4: She is the main game. And you're absolutely spot on, Graham in that if we continue to talk about her, that is why her ratings go up to twenty to twenty five percent. Is potentially a preferred prime minister because we are talking about her. It is a fire, it is going through it and it's ravaging the political spectrum big time. And the only way to stop that is to actually just not talk about it and look at us. We're giving her more oxygen. So it just works for her.
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Speaker 1: When I spoke to the protester yesterday, protest organizer about pauling Hansen and the rally, I said, you realize, you know, your accused of being a racist and a sexist and the like. I said, you realize thirty percent of the nation believe in what Paul and Hanson's saying. Are you saying that thirty percent of Australians are racist and sexist? And they effectively dismissed that. Well, I don't think people are racist and sexist.
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Speaker 4: I don't think they are, But I think I think they're just upset and they've lost their They've lost their belief in the mainstream system and the way that it's going and if the mainstream system doesn't get its act together, then it's going to be really telling at the polls, and particularly with the Victorian election coming up, that's going to be something to watch.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt that it's a party of protest at the moment. It is certainly Where you travel the country, you're always somewhere else Where were you on census night?
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Speaker 4: I was here? And now like I was here? Did it? Did it on the kitchen table Tuesday night? Did it? The ads are still running though, Graham? Why are ads still running for the census? I'm confused now. It might be the fact that people, if you haven't done your census, get it in hurry up. But either that or it's been poorly managed by the networks or by the actual advertising people. But the other side of it is the fines. Have you seen the fines?
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Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty four dollars a day, a day, a day. How do they get that figure? Exactly? Don't you love that? Three you will we find three hundred and sixty four dollars a day.
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Speaker 4: Well, there happens to be three hundred and sixty four days in a year, three sixty five. No I'm just taking off a dollar for the fact that a discount the discount, but thank you for that. But it's just a it's a number in the air, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Now it's and now they've backed away from it. Well, look you're still you know, you've still got time to get your senses done. We're more concerned about getting the census figures than we are imposing.
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Speaker 4: Finance I forget. And there was lots of questions in there, with gender and everything like that, But the most famous, the fact, the one that I love the most, was are you prepared to give this data up in ninety nine years so that it could be made public? I went yes. My significant other went no. Really, I reckon, that's an interesting ask of the audio or audience, which way did you go yes or no to give up that content? Because we're all very protective of it. But yet we're all on Facebook, we're all giving out content for free.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Sanderlans speaking about high profiles and so forth, what do you make of his efforts to get back on.
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Speaker 4: Air, Well, he started your show on Monday. It's a big move to do his own thing and to get out there. It's not really something big for South Australians. But there'll be a few people that will be listening that are fans of it. Very clunky start. I think he's just woken up and realized that there's more to radio. There's more to radio than just speaking on it. It's a big production thing. I think he's got a fair bit of backing and support for it. But my prediction he'll be off the air in two months time. I think it's I think he's bitten off a lot more than he can chew here, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But he did come off early today, didn't He came.
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Speaker 1: After two hours? They sit hands in the air. We can't do it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but look at us talking about him again. And that's the other thing. He's very powerful in that way to get and raise awareness around what he's up to and what he's doing. And he's doing a good job of it. But I don't think it's going to last very long.
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Speaker 1: Final thing before we let you go, Nick, guys, see that Johnny Young has passed away. Remember Young Talent Time?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what a classic show to grow up with, and and that that beautiful song at the end and bringing everyone together that closet even started her career there and a lot of great Tina Arena, all of those great people that Oh, we've sort of grown up with Johnny Young. He was a big part of growing entertainment and that's very sad to.
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Speaker 1: See ye sadly missed. Yeah, Nick, thanks for coming in today.
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Speaker 4: Good so I look forward to seeing you next week.
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Speaker 1: Have you forty team does well?
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Speaker 4: I hope so to hope yours does as well.
01:15:04
Speaker 1: Back shortly with a year review, we're looking at nineteen seventy nine.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty three past eleven five Double A. Shortly we'll look at the year in nineteen seventy nine. But before we do, the sad news the passing of Johnny Young. Remember Young Talent Time. He spoke to Graham Corn's some time ago on conversations with Cornsey. How did Young Talent Time come about? Because you're still quite a young man?
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Speaker 13: Yes, I was okay, So when I came back from England, I was I was twenty two, and then I had two years of the songwriting and doing radio and in nineteen Christmas, in nineteen seventy I got invited by Network ten to come up with something to go against the football because Saturday and I was always football replays on Channel two, Channel nine and Channel seven, they all had their football replays. And I had done something well, you know, I'd done the Goho and I've done other things for Channel ten, and they liked what I did as as a host, so they gave me an opportunity, another opportunity tank And as a kid, I had always loved the Mickey Mouse Club. When I'm talking about being a kid, you know when it was and that a and that Unicello was the first girl I noticed was a girl. You know it was it.
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Speaker 6: Was well.
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Speaker 13: Exactly and it was mighty. You know. I loved the Mickey Mouse Club, and I particularly loved the feeling that they had at the end where they all got together and you know, the host Jimmy and all the kids around him and they would saying now I under said goodbye to all our family, and you know, it was wonderful. It was it had a feeling to it. So when they asked me to find something for to go against the football replays, I had always had a yearning to do something like limity mouth clubs. So I got together a bunch of kids and you know, we got a small budget from Channel ten because you know, they had no idea what I was going to do and whatever, but that trusted me, so they gave me the gig and April nineteen seventy one, Young Talent Times started on a four week contract and with from the very first episode we outraged the football because it was different, you know, it was different to footy replays and all the others worked competing for that foot the audience, but there were a lot of people who went into the footies and so they were into Young Talent Time. And for eighteen years, from that day a Law nineteen seventy one Street through nineteen eighty eight, a Young Talent Time was never off there. It was on every weekend and different time slots around Australia. But it was a yeah. Well, I also got married and had kids and so I was living the Young Talent Time family life in my own private life as well, of course, and so you know I had eighteen fantastic years with Talent Time, and you know I loved every minute of it.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Late Johnny Young speaking with Quancy on Conversations with Cornsy back in November twenty twenty one. Yeah, I think we all fondly remember Young Talent Time and the stars that came from that show. Tina Arena and Jamie Redfern and Conlie Minogue and Danny Minogue. The list goes on and on and on. It was required viewing. As Johnny said way back then, it actually outrated the football at one stage, which is pretty amazing to believe.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings
Speaker 1: I had a very good morning to you on this Friday, the fourteenth day of August. Hope we find you well. Hope you can stick around for well the best part of three hours this morning. I'd love to hear from you on the show today. A two point five billion dollar taxpayer bailout of the Tomago aluminium smelter has raised serious questions according to the Institute of Public Affairs. We'll speak with Saxon Davidson from the IPA about that. We'll look at the weekend state politics with Paul Starrick. Are you looking for a job at the moment? Have you ever thought about becoming a truck driver? Apparently Australia has a major truck driving shortage and we will find out exactly what happens in that area. Because this nation relies, as we found in COVID, so heavily on trucks to move the nation. So if we run out of drivers, what is going to happen? There are calls to make the rsv VAS free to more people. That's what the AMA wants. We'll speak to them about that. Our year in review this week is nineteen seventy nine. Is that a special year?
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Speaker 2: You?
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Speaker 1: Does it? Ring any bells? Will you married in nineteen seventy nine, kids born, you bought your first house, you went on an overseas trip, rock concerts, new job. What happened to you in nineteen seventy nine? Will jog your memory with some of the major events that happened back in nineteen seventy nine. We go to look at the weekend media with Nick Hayes from Media Stable. And after almost six decades, a Port Adelaide legend is about to retire, and yet he's never kicked a ball in anger. We'll find out who it is and what he's been doing this morning. Eight double two to three, double double is the number ring. If you'd like to contribute to the show in any way, I'd love to hear from you. While the student rally against Pauline Hansen took place yesterday afternoon. They estimated about two thousand students protested against the rise of Pauline Hansen and her One Nation Party. There were students from about forty high schools and colleges across the state. They gathered on the steps of Parliament House for the protest and they joined thousands across the nation who carried banners signs and even effigies of the polarizing political leader. In the say No to Pauline Hanson rallies. Speakers included Socialist Alternative organizer Jordan Armstrong, who came on our show yesterday, and say Socialist State secretary Tom Gilchrist. They both led the crowd in chants including f Pauline Plans rights are human rights and Pauline Hanson go to Hell, take one nation there as well. When asked for his comment, the Premier Peter Malinaska said that young people being interested in politics was a good thing, but that ideally they should be at school. I agree more time spent in school. Might have seen correct spelling on one placard. I don't know if you saw it. It said there are no good racists, but unfortunately racists was misspelled racic ts. A little bit extra time in school you might have got over that one. The students have every right to protest, but I think they should be doing it outside school hours. What are your thoughts? Love to hear them. Eight double two three double DOUBLEO is the number to ring. In the sports world. A lot of conjecture about tex Walker, who announced his retirement this week. He was taken to earth. Everyone thought, of course he's playing well, he's been rested, so why did he go to Perth? Why is he there? We're going to speak with nine New Sports reporter in Perth, Braden Ingram, to find out the latest on that and preview the game craze game against Fremantle. Of course ports game a very important one here in Adelaide against Melbourne. What's happening on the show today? I hope you can join us eight double two to three double o double. Oh, let's let's take a call before they go any further at Angerston. It's Brenton, Brenton, how are you?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I've been better grime, But anyway, that's the way it goes.
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Speaker 4: Graham.
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Speaker 3: We got a little surprise. We live in the Housing Trust. We've been here for fifteen years, in the same.
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Speaker 1: Home fifty fifty years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I believe. I won't go into that, but we got a letter from the house and trust. Yeah, the state failure has upgraded what the homes were. Obviously he didn't come and have a look at the house and trust himself. And how red is going to go up forty dollars a week?
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Speaker 1: What are you paying at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Well, we are paying now three hundred. We paid the full rent because my wife works and I can't get the pension because of what you earn, and chi's only on the base of way, So we paid three hundred and thirty nine.
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Speaker 1: That's what you're paying at the moment or after the fort that's what we're.
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Speaker 3: Paying now a week. And it always used to go up ten dollars every six months, which is you know, no problem, you know that's that's fine.
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Speaker 1: So it's going up forty dollars in one hit.
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Speaker 3: It's going up forty dollars in one hit from the seventeenth of October, and then in six months time it'll go up another forty dollars. What what, I've got the letter right in front of me. It goes up another forty dollars, which will bring it up through the market value of the house. Well, like I said, they haven't had a look at the house. And it's not just us. We've been talking. All the neighbors around us will all talk, and they.
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Speaker 1: All got the letter now and everyone's being hit with a similar.
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Speaker 3: Rise with a similar ese. Yes, yes, yes, And our next one's pensions, our neighbor's long started for seating the exit lamd thet and they don't care. Forty dollars now and six months tom it's another forty.
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Speaker 1: Look, Brendon, I'm absolutely shocked to hear that. Stay with us. We'll get in touch with Nick Champions office, the Housing Minister to find out exactly what is going on. But that seems to be an outrageous increase. As you said you in the past, it's been ten dollars every six months. Now it's forty dollars in this six month and another forty dollars six months from now. We'll get to the bottom of it. Stick with us.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty past nine, five Double A this Friday morning. I just see the person that won power Ball last night, twenty million dollars. Sole winner bought the ticket with only about thirty seconds before the draw closed. Maybe it was on the last minute whim if I didn't have a ticket edit so I'm not sorry it was me, But dear Idea, how about that day thirty seconds to go. The difference between twenty million dollars and not having twenty million dollars was thirty seconds. Congratulations to them on the subject of money. A two point five billion dollar taxpayer bail out of the Tomaga and a million smelter has raised serious questions. According to the Institute of Public Affairs. Joining us now is IPA research fellow Saxon Davidson Saxon, good.
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Speaker 6: Morning to you, Good morning, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Uh, what do you make of the bailout?
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Speaker 6: What I make of it is that it's become clear I think to everybody that our manufacturing sector sectors and our energy sectors are now just basically think that provide us with our sovereign capability, the things that we need to survive and the things that we create, which so that we can rely on ourselves cannot survive the next euro transition. It's simply put that you can't create things if you are forced to reduce your emissions, because ultimately emissions is just human activity and human creation. And if you can't create and you can't act, you're not going to be able to have a manufacturing sector. That's what's become clear to me.
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Speaker 1: So do you see other major industries needing similar bayouts.
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Speaker 6: Well, we've already seen similar bailouts be applied to other smelters across the country, whether it be in Copper and Mount Eyeser up in Queensland and then also in Yala as well. So I think that this is going to be a trend that we're going to continue to see, and I think it's incredibly alarming the fact that this is becoming an increase, This is happening increasingly more often, and the government's doing nothing to change the fundamental policy policy situation that we're in. The Government's not doing anything about next hero, it's not halting the renewable transition, even though it's rising power prices, which is becoming a huge negative impact on many of our manufacturing sectors across the country.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a direct link between net zero and power affordability, Well, of course there.
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Speaker 6: Is net zero, and especially the type of nets zero transition we're doing here in Australia, which is dominated by a wind and solar, is making energy grid more unreliable because our ingie grid is not built for variable supply of energy, which means that if your energy grid is more unreliable, ultimately it means your power price is going to be more expensive.
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Speaker 1: You've mentioned the impact of the safeguard mechanism explain that to us.
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Speaker 6: So the stafeguard mechanism is the federal government marketing nets ERA policy, which impacts large projects and facilities, and what it does is that it creates an emissions cap which reduces by five percent every financial year, and what they must do is reduce their emissions to below TAP or purchase carbon credits in order to operate it to offset those those excess emissions. What's this ten. What this does is create a price on carbon, So essentially it's a carbon tax. And what we SUK yesterday was calculate the carbon tax that the Camrgo aluminium smelter is due to face up to twenty thirty, which one hundred and fourteen million dollars. Now, this is just one cost on top of a myriad of other costs that the smelter faces due to red tape emission reduction targets, and also on top of rising power prices due to nets ERA. But what this does prove is that there are a myriad of and a buzantine costs that the smelter faces and this is all due to the policy of mit ERA and before that, other emission reduction targets that have been put on foot as well.
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Speaker 1: So why can't manufacturing thrive under net zerra Well, because to.
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Speaker 6: Have a manufacturing sector, low power prices and reliable energy are a base musk like it is the minimum requirement for it to occur. Because smeltering is very emission intensive and requires a lot of energy. It's one of the largest users of energy in the South Wales. And if the grid is unreliable, it's not gonna be able to function at a very basic level.
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Speaker 1: So how can we stabilize as a grid because coal Pire five power stations are being phased out there beyond their useful life.
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Speaker 6: Well, we actually just need to create more coal fire power stations to stabilize the grid. The CSIRO a few weeks they're produced their most recent gen cost report in which they revealed that coal is the cheapest form of power when you're take into account deeds relationship with the system of the energy system, and when before that, in the previous iterations of the gencoss support they hadn't done that. They only looked at it at the asset level. And that's how Chris Bowen and a lot of other people who do believe in that zero were able to say that wind and solar are cheaper forms of energy than coal. But the cheapest energy future going forward is to actually just to bring more coal into the system and more gas.
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Speaker 1: But surely that would go against everything the government stands for.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, But ultimately the government needs to actually bring results for Australian and one of those results, as we heard many times before they were elected in May twenty twenty two, was to lower power prices. And if they want to bring results to Australians, which is ultimately what Australians also expect their government, Australians don't really expect ideological fervor. They expect results, and if results means they have to go back and admit their faults, I'm sure most Australians would appreciate that more than just continuing down the wrong path.
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Speaker 1: You're calling for the re establishment of the of coal as a major source of power. Should we be giving more thought to nuclear, which is emissions free?
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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely we should be. But ultimately nuclear is banned under the EPBC Act, and I'm all for removing that band, but it would take a while for that industry to start up. But in the meantime, we have so much coal here in Australia, just like how we have so much uranium. But if we are to start a nuclear industry in the meantime, we should be using our coal.
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Speaker 1: What about the role of gas.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm all for using gas in the system as well to firm up when perhaps we've got cold fire power station works to break down, which they do a lot. But what the government claims quite a lot that our coal fire power stations break down because they are aging, and no one can deny that. But what they don't mention is why they are aging. They are aging because they're being used as a stop gap for renewable energy as they go to their transition. But cold five power stations aren't meant to be turned on and off in the way that they are, and there is a myriad of red tape in place which prevents the operators of cold fire power stations to upgrade the power plants, which means that they're being they're being aged. There's not much that we can do to brive to reverse that aging, and we're not building any new ones. So I'm also using gas and I'm also using coal to shore off the energy grid, lower power prices and make our grid more reliable again.
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Speaker 1: Saxon graded, that's Saxon, Davidson ipa research fellow. What are your thoughts, folks? Eight double two to three doubleedow. Steve says, ree the smelter bailout. I agree one hundred percent with your last caller. Labour's energy and environmental policies are bankrupting our country. Labour bailing out to Margo Smelter Wyler near star Port, Pirie and Tasmania just pointing it on Australia's credit card. And Arthur says Graham, don't be fooled. Net zero and carbon tax is destroying Australia. They have a lot to answer for. We've got to take a break for news headlines. Then after that a week in State politics with The Advertiser Editor at Large Paul Starreck five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty eight two ten five double A This Friday Morning. On the text line, andrews says, albelize he's public framing that he asked Trump to waive all tariffs is a minimalist, defensive ask, not an assertive trade negotiation. How about saying something like Australia brings real value to the partnership. We're asking for long term critical minerals deals, fair access for our farmer's stronger ORCHUS industry guarantees, and US investment in clean energy. I like that, Andrew, Yeah, put it on the table. We are a very vital trading partner and an ally of the US. Perhaps the Prime Minster needs to be more assertive re the smelter bailout. I agree one hundred percent with your last caller. Labour's energy environment policies are bankrupting our country. How far will it go? Well, it's been a busy week in state politics as they all are joining us now as the Advertiser editor at large, Paul Starek glay.
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Speaker 7: Paul, Good morning, Graham, how are you good?
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Speaker 1: Thanks? Where do we start? The Premier back from his US trip and hit the ground running.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the AI Royal Commission was a big deal and continues to be so. He had quite an interesting time of overseas in the US, met with some fairly prominent people, most notably at Apple CEO Tim Cook, who was sort of keen to discuss around the world leading social media age band that was initiated really out of here. And the premiers move on that Tim Cook. Of course Apple Chiefs was keen to tout his own weares in terms of how apples issuing or coming up with protections for children online, which is in many people's view, a long overdue thing. And then he met with Open ai co founder Greg Brockman, also in San Francisco to come up with an agreement with the state government about how to use a chat GPD and to help, in the government's words, develop skills, drive innovation and tract investment and so forth. But I think the big deal was the AII Royal Commission. As I say, it continues to play out nationally. Michelle Gratton, a respected press gallery Douyen written a story today acclaiming that, but also suggesting that it's a pity that he is not the premier is not interested in a move to federal politics.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't know what you think. I was just going to ask you about that. I mean, the Premier is treading the boards like he is a federal politician at the moment. I mean, he started the movement of the under sixteen social media ban. A Royal commissioner to AI speaking to Tim Cook and all the heavyweights overseas. Surely those in Canberra and the Labor Party must be sort of saying is he angling for a role in Canberra?
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Speaker 7: Well, certainly at the Labour's recent federal conference here in Adelaide there was a lot of discussion in the press gallery at least about Willie or Waanty, this discussion that's been going on here in South Australia for some time. And one of the one of my colleagues in the Canberra press gallery that I was talking to, somewhat of a veteran there, made the point that if the Labor machine sees that Peter melanowskis is polling better and more likely to win elections than any other any of the other contenders, then they'll make that happen. It's a good point. Still a lot to play out, and there's a lot of other contenders and mister Albernez, he doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime fast.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the Premier I've asked him on this shows he is so proud of what he's doing for southa Strada and what says the job is still to be done, and the fact that he can attend an event and be home in fifteen minutes as opposed to having to fly in and out of Canberra every week. And he's got a young family, all reasons to stay in southa Straia. But let's face it, he is an ambitious person and his head and shoulders over anyone else in the Labor Party in terms of profile and appeal.
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Speaker 7: And I think that my immediate response to what you just said is, well, he would say that, wouldn't he. I mean, he doesn't want to fan needlessly fans speculation and that may or may not be his chosen course. I do remember when back before he was in Parliament, he had offers and there was suggestions he was going to move to go to the Senate. You know. He pondered federal politics back then, so we're talking twenty fifteen, and ruled that out and then went into the upper House at the state level and then transitioned at the next election to the lower house. I think as long as mister Melanousis continues to pretty much upstage Antony Aberzi every time he's on the same stage, then these comparisons are just going to continue to be drawn by both commentators such as myself and also within the party, and also by opponents, some of them would hope that he would lead the stage to devastraate It's I think it's going to be one of those perennial discussions until there's evidence of movement.
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Speaker 1: There's no I mean, let's face it, there's a paucity of real talent on both sides of the House, at federal and state level. So when someone like the Peter malonass comes along once in a generational politician, he stands head and shoulders above above the rest. And I mean, you know, the logical end up for him is in canber And.
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Speaker 7: I think one thing that you picked up on earlier Graham is correct. He's ambitious, and why shouldn't he be. You know, he's enterprising. He wants to see how far he can go, and at the moment, he wants to see how far he can take the state. That's what you would want in a leader, depending on your politics. I mean, well not even depending on your politics. You want someone at a state level or national level who wants it's there jurisdiction to succeed. I don't think anyone would deny amy ambition. And so, like I say, I just think you're I think You're right, he does stand out as a politician. He has for some time, way back even before he was in politics, sorry, in parliament, labor apparatchicks were announcing him as the next premier labor Premier of South Australia after Jay Weatherill. I remember way back in twenty eleven discussing that with one of the labor hardheads at the time who proved correct. And so there's there'd be nothing wrong with him wanting to go the pathways difficult, not even just from the amount of contenders that there are at a federal labor level, the fact that the Left is in charge nationally he's from the right, the fact that South Australia doesn't have a lot of seat volueure, Like you know, there's not many federal seats in South Australia compared to the rest of the country, so you've got a mass a coalition for one of a better term to gather the numbers. He would of course be aided in that by Don Ferrell, his mentor and a significantly and very influential person in Canberra. So, like I say, it's one of those things that I think will a parlor game that people will be able to play for some time until there's evidence of movement.
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Speaker 1: Well, as you said, if he is a vote win somewhere, the Labor Party would find a way. Yeah, and look a thing. You know, we're going down a path that I didn't intend going down. But ideologically things would change because Peter Mallanaskers has never ruled out looking at the nuclear factor. He's always said, you know, if it's stacked up, and I mean the Prime Minister sat on him and said, oh, he's allowed one mistake when he talked about it before. But we know he believed is that there could be a role for nuclear if it was seen to be financially workable. And he's obviously the state government here is realized that renewables can't do it alone. He's reintroduced the need for gas, affirming power and the like. So he's far more open than the current Labor leadership. So if he was in Candra, I think we could see quite considerable change.
00:23:21
Speaker 7: Well it's funny that you should say that, because my column for today tomorrow is looking at the AI Royal Commission, and I'd argue that one of the things that should consider if as the Premier has said that it's looking forward and looking at opportunities. Is a nuclear energy powering data centers?
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's what's happening in the US and a key ally the advancement of technology in the nuclear field. Small modular reactors are expected to become scalable and economic scale within a few years. If we're looking at the rapidly evolving technology. If the Royal Commission is capable of looking at the rapidly evolving technology of artificial intelligence, why is it they're not able to consider whether or not nuclear energy will be economic for Australia and able to pay data centers?
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Speaker 4: A good point.
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Speaker 7: You can't ignore the the foundation of AI, the sort of the generator of it. It requires data centers to work and.
00:24:36
Speaker 1: They need gobs full of power, that's right. And did you see that the story about the big data center being built in Melbourne that will require as back up forty eight diesel generators and one million liters of diesel fuel on site at any time. Now, it's just a backup. It won't run off that. But you know there's nothing more dirty than diesel fuel, that's right.
00:25:00
Speaker 7: And you know we saw how fragile grids can be with a recent blackout, with the destruction of interruption, I should say to the substation near Rundle Mall a couple of weeks ago when it flooded. I'm not saying that that was anything other than an accident, but you can see how why grid security is important and why stable reliable power is important because that shut down a vast part of the state central business district on a Friday.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: And that's untenable if it was to happen on a regular basis. Finally, before I let you go, paul the anti Pauline Hansen student rally. What did you make of it?
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Speaker 7: Well, my colleague Aiden Hill went along to that yesterday and he reported on that the chants by the students were quite organized, you know, obviously designed to get a good social media impact. I thought that Corey Bernardi deserve credit for actually fronting up to it, as opposed to hiding around in his office. You know, he put forward his point of view in a somewhat mischievous video.
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Speaker 5: Good on him.
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Speaker 7: He's entitled to do that, as are the students entitled the protest, some would argue as the premier repute to suggest that they'd be better off in school. But you know, we were in a functioning democracy where peaceful protest is a right. If the kids want to go and do that, and they have parental poission to do so, you know, good luck to them. They might be. I do wonder about the extent to which it's fanned by political parties, but again good luck to the political parties if they can organize that. I think that core Nardi's message was very strong, you know, getting school and why aren't you and the socialist architects the puppet masters of the of the protest. So you know, I guess there's a summary of the points of view.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interest interesting to see how the next rally goes. Paul always great a chat. Thanks for your time today, Jeez, Graham, thank you, and we'll look out for your article online and in the Advertiser. The Week in Review, Advertiser Editor at Large, Paul Starik.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twelve minutes, two ten five double A. This Friday morning. The All Lords is done by fifty eight points a s sx two hundred done by also or fifty six points. In fact, Darl Jones was up by sixty nine points. Nasdaq up by two hundred and fourteen. As for oil, Brent crude a seven US dollars a barrel West Texas crewed eighty one US dollars a barrel gold three hundred and fifty eight US dollars an ounce. The Aussie dollar currently buying seventy point six US cents. We rely on so much truckies. I think COVID really highlighted the fact that truckies carry the nation. Well, if you're looking for a job, maybe you should think about becoming a truck driver, because evidently we have a major truck driver shortage, and you report warns the shortfall will worsen a's freight demand surgeres by a huge amount by twenty fifty. Joining US now is NAT Road CEO Warren Clark. Warren, Good morning to.
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Speaker 4: You, morning Graham.
00:28:23
Speaker 1: Just how serious is the problem?
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Speaker 8: Oh, look, it's a big issue. I think Australia now has the oldest truck driving workforce out of all the country surveyed, where forty of our drivers are over fifty five. So it's a it's a major issue, and we've got it, Like you said, we've got a freight task that's you know, it's going to increase by fifty seven percent by twenty fifty. So, yeah, it's problem.
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Speaker 1: So have you got any a figure that can put on it? How many drivers do you need? Hello, Warren, are you there?
00:29:05
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:29:05
Speaker 8: Sorry, just dropped out.
00:29:06
Speaker 1: Oh have you got any idea how many drivers you'd need?
00:29:11
Speaker 8: Well, they're about twenty nine thousand short as we speak. Yeah, twenty nine thousand. That's a lot.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. So why don't you think younger people are being attracted to trunk driving?
00:29:24
Speaker 8: Well, it's pretty simple. We've been highlighting for some time that we need consistent training, consistent career paths across the country and we just can't get it. So the government cannot pull it together. And when you're a young person, if you don't know that this avenue and this job opportunity exist, then you're not going to come into it. So if you're coming out of school, you want to be able to sit down and go, Okay, I've got this career path and this is how it looks. That's what these guys are looking for. And at the present time, you know, we just can't actually get the states to coordinate at all and to the federal government to actually put something in place that's consistent across the country.
00:30:05
Speaker 1: So what would you like to see happen? Warren? Are you there?
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Speaker 8: Yeah? Sorry, I'm on the raid and it's just dropping out.
00:30:15
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, So what would you like to see happen?
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Speaker 8: Well, what we'd like to see is we'd like to see consistent training programs across the country that are not just in a classroom, but they're hands on and practical training. And we'd also like to see reforms to the licensing system. So the careers are there, the money.
00:30:34
Speaker 6: Is there, the jobs are there, the opportunities are there.
00:30:37
Speaker 8: It's just those things that really need a good shake up.
00:30:40
Speaker 1: We hear from people that it can be a pretty tough life, is it.
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Speaker 8: Look with trucking, Look we make no bones. Like you work hard, but you also get paid well to do those jobs. Now people talk down the truck drivers wage, but you know those guys out in the road, they're any good money. They're working hard, they're long hours, but the industry works very hard now to give them quality of life as best they can. But people come in, they do work hard, they get paid well, and then they can go on with their life, their personal life. On the weekend.
00:31:15
Speaker 1: So can you give us a figure what kind of average trucking you expect to earn over a year.
00:31:19
Speaker 8: Well, I think we did a thurday a couple of years ago, and you know, the top of the range guys doing in a state in some areas probably earning north of over two hundred thousand dollars a year. But the average guy is earning more than one hundred thousand dollars a year. Once they're trained, they'll be doing you know, in a state intrastate. Most of our freight is moved within the capital cities. Those guys are you know, they come out, they get their license, they get minimal sort of training. They're probably on about one hundred thousand dollars. So that's not bad money. I have a heck's debt. You walk out, you're almost your own boss. But like I say, you work hard, you get paid, and you know, you get to live your life.
00:32:06
Speaker 1: Well, as you said, at the top end, two hundred thousand dollars, that's pretty good.
00:32:10
Speaker 8: I yeah, those guys are experienced drivers, probably driving high productivity vehicles. But you know, it's good money. There's a lot of technology in the trucks. There's a lot of technology in the trailers and the combinations, and they've got a lot of responsibility. They've got the road users around them. But these guys are good, they're professional, and they do a good job. And what we've got to remember is that everything we see on our kitchen table or in our house at some stage has been on a truck.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the important thing is I was just thinking that some would sort of say, look, I don't want to become a truckie because I'm traveling into state all the time, and say forth, well, I guess you don't need to do that. I mean, you could just be a metropolitan driver.
00:32:57
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and there's a lot of business that quite cater for those drivers. So you know, for instance, you might go you might have a job where you go from Sydney to with Donga two or three days a week, or you know, you can pick and choose. Basically, you know, it's not that you have to get in the truck and every job is driving and you're home away from home every two weeks. Some guys love that, you know, they do. But they're a special group of guys and they do a great job of it. But most of the freight is intrastate and a lot of those guys a home of a night with their families, and you know they live a good life.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: Somebody's texted in saying truck drivers face fines of twenty six thousand dollars for logbook faults. Now, why would anyone want to be a truck driver?
00:33:48
Speaker 8: Well, that person's come up with a very good point, because we're always fighting against the government on those sort of fines. The fine doesn't fit the crime, if that makes sense. That person's raised a very good point. But what the government does continually say that to get a twenty six thousand dollars fine for a logbook error or some sort of fatigue error, you've got to be a serial offender. They're not just going to come out and find your twenty six grand if you make an an honest mistake. That's someone who's pushed the rules and pushed the boundaries and being caught numerous times and they just don't learn. So very rare that people would get that fined. But hey, they're right, they are definitely there, and we argue against those sort of crazy things all the time.
00:34:30
Speaker 1: Now, no doubt, why don't there be people listening at the moment of thinking, I'd never thought about that. That's pretty good money. If someone wanted to find out more about becoming a trucky, what do they need.
00:34:39
Speaker 8: Today, Well, there's plenty trucking firms across the country. They just need to find someone who's within their area. I mean, you think about a university student, right, there's casual truck driving jobs where they can be doing like one, two, three days a week. They can basically choose what they want. It's sure, you know. It's working in a coffee shop pulling coffee and bars, pulling, pulling beers and things like that, where they can know they can work for three days a week and then they're off and doing their life.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you warrant. Thanks for that all the us in your quest to get more drivers. But that's an amazing thought that we could be short of fifty seven percent of drivers by twenty fifty eight. Double two to three double O double Mark. You're a former trucking What would you like to add to the conversation.
00:35:27
Speaker 9: Yeah, hang on, I just got job. Yes, yeah, look now, I've done a lot of miles on the road, mate, and driven near to state a lot. I've driven around Australia on one job NonStop except for my brakes. Of course, we're just a brakes and you're still there.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:35:47
Speaker 8: Sorry.
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Speaker 9: And so ten years ago I put it to this company or a major Australian company, that we needed to start the training program where young people could be trained up on light trucks, heavy ridge and then into your heavy combination, in your multi combination with drivers have learned how to drive long distance with the TEG management as my dad taught me. And I said, it'd be an extensive program. And of course we're running out of drivers. I told people this ten years ago. I'm out of the industry now. And he said it's easy to go and get someone from India. And that was the attitude. And prior to that, why we're missing losing so many drivers is the owner drivers have been screwed over year after year after year by the big companies and the attitude for many many decades in industry is just sacked, sack a driver for the slightest, slightest reason, and now we'll get plenty of one. The shelf was the term. So the industry is bordered upon themselves and now that the only solution now is just to get more drivers some Indian that's why you see more people Indians on the road driving trucks and the higher risk involved because they're not used to driving such a normal distance at such spees and they don't understand Like, for example, I could always tell if I had a truck coming towards their here as an experienced drive, because you'd move over to the folk line as I would to give yourself as much room between trucks as possible. But now the people just travel down the white line. They don't understand merging, they don't understand how to use overtaking lanes, and no one's training anybody coming through the industry. And I fear for the livestock industry in particular because that is very difficult work, very long hours, and once that's generation of livestock drivers are gone, good luck, Good.
00:37:35
Speaker 1: On your mark. Thanks for for your input and your insight. Earlier, we had to call a saying they lived in a Housing Trust home. Their rent has gone up forty dollars a week and then six months will go up another forty dollars. Housing Minister Nick Champion will come on on the other side of the news to talk to us about the rental rises.
00:37:54
Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with gram Goodings seven.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: Past ten to five double A. On ThisDay morning earlier a caller Brenton and Anguston rang up to say his Housing Trust rent has gone up forty dollars a week and the letter said another forty dollars in six months time. Housing Minister Nick Champion joins us now Minister that seems a pretty hefty increase.
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Speaker 10: Well, Graham, the same thing I should say. This is not applying to all Housing Trust residence. There's a small cohort of residence who are on what's called a market rent system. Any Trust tenant who gets a letter who's on the market rent center a system he thinks it's going above thirty per cent of their income should contact the trust and of course they'll be put on their income assessed system.
00:38:43
Speaker 4: If that's the case.
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Speaker 10: With this small cohort who are on a market rent system, they've basically there's been an old system in place that was put in place in nineteen ninety six and basically what it is capped the market rent system. And so what we've got in several of these circumstances who are people who are on quite high incomes who are in housing trust times, but who aren't paying market rent even though they're on a market rent system. And so what we're doing is just putting in place a new rent cap, going up from ten dollars to forty dollars to get those people back closer to the market rent system which they are on.
00:39:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's saying he's paying three hundred and forty or thirty nine at the moment. As you said in the past, that's gone up in ten dollars increments, now forty dollars this time, forty dollars in six months time. So that's eighty dollars in twelve months. That's a huge percentage increase.
00:39:44
Speaker 10: Well, that's right, But if it starts to breach thirty percent of his income, he can go on to the income assess system, which is obviously there for the vast majority of trust tenants. Most trust tenants are on a thirty percent of their income, which is a very generous rent subsidy. All of the trust has a fairly generous rent subsidy. There are a small cohort of housing that's in a market rent system where people might be paying far less than the thirty percent of their income, and so effectively, what we've got is people who have got quite reasonable incomes who are in housing trusts, are homes who are on a market rent system, but who aren't paying market rents. So we're changing that basically, so all of this extra rent goes back into the system, goes back into the system for maintenance, for new homes and for the good of the housing trust.
00:40:41
Speaker 1: He was suggesting that when you talk about maintenance, he said, you know, no one's even looked to see the standard of his property.
00:40:48
Speaker 10: Well, we actually run a you know, putting more money into maintenance than ever before. We've just put an additional ten minute dollars a year into maintenance, and that is obviously an issue. But you know, obviously what restricts maintenance budgets or the budget to build is if we have people in the housing trust who have got good incomes but whom are paying a highly subsidized rent, who should be paying market rent. So, you know, as I said before, a small number of housing trust tenants who are on a market rent system as opposed to the income assessed a system. The vast majority of trust tenants on income assessed no more than thirty percent of their incomes. If anybody who's getting these letters are think that we're breaching the thirty percent of income, they can go into the income assessed system. We're just doing these changes to modernize the trust and to make sure people are paying their appropriate rent for their income.
00:41:45
Speaker 1: You talk about market rent, that's obviously what if you wanted to sell the property on the market. The prices are coming down, Housing prices are coming down. Could these people expect a drop in their rental in the future.
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Speaker 10: That's unlikely because with effectively, what the old system did, which was probably left in place for too long and was too generous, was that the gap between, if you like, the market rent and the rent that we were charging was growing ever larger by the year, and had we kept the cap in place, it would have grown ever larger. And what that meant, Graham, is that some people were getting a fantastic deal even though they should have been paying market rent. And what we're trying to do is, you know, charge people the appropriate rent for the system that they're on. Often people have got you know, might be working or have quite high incomes but are in a Housing Trust home but paying market rent. But they're not actually paying that because of these caps, so we're releasing the caps. These increases you might seem large, but if in effect that reflects the subsidy in effect that every taxpayer and and the Housing Trust itself was effectively giving to these residents.
00:43:04
Speaker 1: You mentioned a figure of ten million dollars going towards Housing Trust repairs, any idea how many trust homes are currently empty awaiting repairs.
00:43:14
Speaker 10: So we have a very low vacancy rate for what's called offerable properties. It's about one point three percent, and that really is just the time it takes for someone to move out and someone to move in again. But there are about somewhere between fifteen and seventeen hundred homes at any one time which are vacant because we're renovating them, new bathrooms, new kitchens, and typically that happens as a tenant might die or move into age care or move out. We often have to you know, might have lived there for a very long time, and that's the time obviously to know to do major renovations while there's no tenant in there, and that's part of our broader deep maintenance to feel like system. And then you basically give homes that might have been built in place and zero or Dunstan zero or in the eighties. You get another ten to fifteen yes out of them if.
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Speaker 1: You do that, Minister, thanks for your time today. That's Nick Champion Housing Minister. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to ring well. The RSV virus cases have more than tripled in eight weeks. It's prompted a call from the Australian Medical Association and joining us now is president Associate Professor Peter Subermanium Professor good ponding to you. Are you there, Yes, Yes, I'm here, Yeah, Yeah, I've been in among COVID and flu and so forth. It looks like RSV is particularly dangerous at the moment.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Yes, and I think you know your interrupted remarks is really underpins it. It's tripled over the last eight weeks, has brought the number of cases confirmed up to around six and a half thousand, and it's something that is preventable. There is a national immunization program that does cover people over the age of seventy five, pregnant women, which means that you know, new bonds are protected if pregnant women are vaccinated. There is an injectable monoclonal antibody for infants who are not who are susceptible, so that's also covered. And the first Australians under the over the age of sixty they're covered with a free vaccination. What we're calling for is expanding that to include people over the age of sixty five in residential age care facilities because these are the people who are at risk of RSV and you know, that would reduce the number of people that are fronting up to our already overcrowded and stressed public hospital system. So that's what we're calling four gram.
00:45:58
Speaker 1: What is the cost if you have to on pay for an RSV vaccine?
00:46:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's significant.
00:46:04
Speaker 11: It's three hundred dollars.
00:46:06
Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: The thing I should also say is that the immunity conferred is about a decade, so it's a sort of one time vaccination at this stage. But that is an impost financial impost and you know, we've looked at the evidence from across the border. West Australia has expanded the commonwealth funded program with what we understand is a state funded expansion to cover that group that I've just mentioned, the over sixty fives who are in residential age care homes. They're the groups that we should be protecting from the impacts of RSV.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: So there's a federal program, as you said, it's over seventy five. Western Australia has introduced it's a state program for sixty fives. So you'd like to see the same thing happen in southers data if that were the case. How quickly could it be implemented if they.
00:47:06
Speaker 2: Agreed implemented is we've got as far as I understand, we've got supply, and it's not sixty five over sixty fives Gramm, I just want to focus it on sixty fives in residential.
00:47:20
Speaker 1: Age care, all right, yep, yeah, yeah.
00:47:23
Speaker 2: So you know, Graham, we've probably discussed this before. Every month we talk about the thousands of hours on the ramp and that's an ongoing problem. There's incremental improvements month to you know, comparing last year to this year. But June's July's figures were quite significant. They were the third longest hours and that's because of the increased demand. So what we're saying is, let's treat the course, identify those that we can protect from you know, contributing to that impact. Plus, of course, healthcare workers are at risk. If day fall sick, then it's harder for us to take care of the people that we need to take care. This is a fairly straightforward way of addressing the cause and not just treating the queue.
00:48:12
Speaker 1: So you suggested rs WE could last for a decade or so. It's that unlike a flu virus that there seems to be a new strain in every season.
00:48:23
Speaker 2: Register also support the Chief Public Health Officers commentary on flu. We seem to be showing less blue cases this year than last year, but that's not because the flu season is over. Now winter might be coming to an end, but you might recall that last year we had quite a lot of cases in summer. Now that's the subclad K variant, and so what happens is you have those that immunity because you had flu last year. Now that immunity doesn't last long. What we are concerned about is people not getting vaccinated for flu. And I'm talking about flu here, not RSP, because the flu cases are likely to increase in the next two to three months, so even after winter is over. I take the opportunity here to call on people who haven't had their flu vaccination to get themselves vaccinated by their GPS as soon as they can, because you still want to protect yourself from flu because the flu season is certainly not over.
00:49:37
Speaker 1: Professor, great to chat. Thanks for your time. I am a SA president, says you a Professor Peter Supermanium on the RSV virus and the importance of getting a flu vax.
00:49:47
Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty two past ten. Your calls in a moment, but we have not to double passes to give away. In fact, two double passes family passes and thank to the Royal Show and a double pass to see commentary at the Dunston Playhouse right now between now and midday. Frank, good morning, good morning.
00:50:09
Speaker 12: Always love your show mate. I just want to say something about.
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Speaker 8: The RSV virus.
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Speaker 12: I encourage all those people out there listening to five Double A who are not sure about getting the RSV you know, humming and haring three hundred dollars.
00:50:26
Speaker 2: I got it.
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Speaker 12: I'm seventy years old and I got it, and I know if you're over eighty for free.
00:50:34
Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 12: The nurse practitioner that I spoke to and that made me think twice too, said to me, we're talking about oh you know what. I was telling him, I'm not sure it's.
00:50:42
Speaker 8: What too much money and all this.
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Speaker 12: He said, I had a patient some time ago who and this same passion didn't want to get it, just didn't want to get it, didn't want to spend three hundred dollars. That same person that he spoke to died. Now this virus rus rus the virus. I don't believe it's just for older people. It's even young people have died, you know, with this virus. And so I went and got it and paid the three hundred dollars. But I say this to all those people out there listening, ask this question to yourself, how much do you value your life? Do you value it more than three hundred dollars? I just want to finish off that run.
00:51:30
Speaker 1: Good on your Frank, Thanks for your cool Julie and Blake.
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Speaker 14: Julie, good morning, Graham. I trust your world. You're sounding much better now.
00:51:37
Speaker 1: Ah yes, fly a fighting fit.
00:51:40
Speaker 14: You've got that bounce in your voice, so obviously your voice is so much better.
00:51:45
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 14: Look, I have to commend you yesterday on your interview with I don't even know what the guy's name was, the protester guy who's the leader? Whoever he was, my blood was boiling, I think when you opened your mouth first, so I don't think I caught his name. Yeah, whatever, I was going to ring, and I thought no, for fear of being dumped, and I respect you and your show too much to do that, I refrained from doing it. But I must say I was absolutely astonished that he didn't have any problems with the amount of immigrants and illegal immigrants that came into our country. It's like open the borders, just let them all in, and he did not have a problem with that whatsoever. And the frightening part program is they are our future teachers, doctors, lawyers, and dare I say it, politicians, and that's what we have to look forward to. I saw them on TV last night, and I know not everybody has that opinion, that go to school and unis and whatever, but they just look like rental crowds. And like you said, you picked up some and I saw it too, the wrong spelling, and I thought, well, you know, if you spent more time in the classroom, perhaps you would be able to spell. You would be able to count out change in a shop, which a lot of them can't do. If you give them, say it's ten sixty, and you give them twenty dollars sixty or something. They had no idea what to do. And I answered to my husband, if I had children of school age, and all due respect to your daughter, whom I believe is a teacher, yes he is, and I'm sure a very good one. Look, I'm sure she's.
00:53:41
Speaker 13: A very very good teacher.
00:53:43
Speaker 14: I am looking at the rest of the family, I have no doubt at all. But I answered to my husband, I would not let my children anywhere near some of those teachers and the curriculum of the homeschool my kids. And that's that's not a very good thing that you know, you should be thinking. You think you should be able to send your children off to school and not have them radicalized or have them brainwashed with all that diatribe that they were, you know, screaming out yesterday. And I know everybody's you know, have their own opinion, but some of it is just so left wing that it can become a dangerous grim.
00:54:24
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:54:24
Speaker 1: Look, TRULYE no, I hear what you're saying. Look, I to have no problem with students protesting and demonstrating and having political views I'm very much against the fact that they're doing it in school time. I would like to know, you know, they say are about two thousand there if it was after school hours on a Saturday or a Sunday afternoon, how many would they get turned up? I'm wondering what is behind it? I mean, a teachers, I don't think spontaneously students in the playgrounds are hey, let's protest against whoever it happens to be. It seems to be driven from some direction now, as I say, you know, I would feel the same way if it was an anti Anthony Albanezi protest or an anti coalition protest. I just don't think it should be generated from within the school system and kids be given time off school to go and demonstrate or protest. Now, it used to happen way back in the Vietnam War days, but that was UNI students, and I think UNI students are a bit different and effectively they're adults and they can be more liberal in their thinking or labor in their thinking. But when it comes to secondary students, I think they're better placed in the classroom. After class by all means, protest and demonstrate whoever what you think, But Yeah, that's my thought anyway. Eight double two to three double O double oh. Regarding the Housing Trust, Bell says, if there are people on good incomes, why are they still in public housing regardless of what they pay? These are for aged, pensioners and disabled, low income. The system needs to move these people to move out. Thank you for that Bell. Eight double two three double oh doubble is the numbered ring.
00:56:01
Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
00:56:05
Speaker 1: Minutes two eleven and five double A This Friday morning, If you love your food and let's face it, who doesn't be listening to Leith Forest today just after two thirty when Chris Charmer from Chalmer's Kitchen joins him for Foody Friday. Thanks to Smeg and Pals. Are you building or renovating? Your first choice should be visiting the Smeg showroom at Debuity. Debney Distributors takes the difference with Smegh and Pals. Leith Forrest will be in the studio just before midday to tell us about the show and make me really envious when he tells me what Chris Chalmer is going to cook. Be listening stay tuned. Big Weekend of a Sport coming up. But it doesn't get any bigger than tonight. The Crows are in Perth playing freo. A win would see them end up in the four. Possibly a loss could see them fighting for the remains, the remnants of the reper charge, as you might call it. Nine Sports reporter Braiden Ingram is in Perth. He joins us, Now, Brayden, how you doing?
00:56:58
Speaker 11: Yeah, very well, thank you. Here is a great day in Adelaide.
00:57:01
Speaker 15: It is a stunning day in Perth, so if you've made the trip over as a Crows fan, you're loving it. Although I imagine a fair bit of nervousness ahead of this game as you say so much on the line. But yeah, headed for a top of twenty two, so cracking day of football which you'll kick off.
00:57:16
Speaker 11: So no excuse forty tonight.
00:57:18
Speaker 1: I mean the Crows struggled in the wet last week, so a nice dry deck might be good news.
00:57:24
Speaker 15: Yes, but we do know with Optus it was interesting. I saw right Phil Thought kicking a little bit yesterday getting a feel for it, and quite a few of the Dockers players I heard on local radio here yesterday were asked about the quality of the Opta service. It has been a bit of a sticking point that it can be slippery at times, even in great conditions. So if you're see players slipping over tonight, you know why.
00:57:44
Speaker 11: It's the deck that has been a bit of an issue for.
00:57:47
Speaker 8: A while now. Yeah.
00:57:47
Speaker 1: Well, I was over in Perth for the game against the West Coast West Coast and I was talking to Text before the game and they had a run on the deck and he said it was really slippery and not good at all. Well, Text won't be playing the time. Explain that to me. Why have the Crows taken Text to Perth only to say he's going to sit it out.
00:58:06
Speaker 15: I was going to ask you the same question, Graham. I thought you might have had a word to Text because I have no idea. I think that's the answer that's got everyone and I'm sure yourself scratching your head. So why has he come over if he's going to be rested? And I do wonder sometimes that footy clubs don't say they don't concern themselves with the pr and how they're viewed. Perhaps they should have on this one, because he's come over here, he's trained, he looks good to go, but then they've listed him as managed.
00:58:35
Speaker 11: The club was very coy yesterday.
00:58:36
Speaker 15: I think even Mary Davis was on with the boys in the afternoon as late as around five pm and still was very coy on whether Text would play or not. So part of it seems like has he been managed or is it more of a we actually think this is a better lineup, We're a better side perhaps without him. Now, the original plan was always to rest him for this game. Text really open about that, but then the question is asked, well, why has he made the journey? So if you look at the counterpoint as to why they may have done it, when I think they played that game against the Eagles that you spoke about just a second ago, that was when Riley Silthorpe got ill the.
00:59:12
Speaker 11: Day of the game made you didn't have a tool to bring in. They had to bring in.
00:59:14
Speaker 15: I think Billy Downing was late in and not really or clearly not a like for like. But I know if you speak to footy fans this morning, it's been to some of old colleagues, it's just like, what the heck is going on? This doesn't make any sense, And look, it might be the absolute right decision. I do wonder as well as Text just wanted to come over because it's going to be one of his last road trips.
00:59:35
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's really Yeah, it could be because I've been told Ned McHenry has said that it's the best trip. The players love the Perth trip. I guess they spend more time together, you know, they get well away from the East Coast and so forth. They really enjoy it. So maybe you know, for text a swansong, you knows the last roundup.
00:59:56
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I've come a day early, so it's a great bonding environment and that time. So I totally get that, but I think then you need to be upfront, and I get you also don't want to give away what your team is to the opposition. But I think on this occasion it's left the fan base a little bit bewildered.
01:00:14
Speaker 11: And I know that that's not everything.
01:00:16
Speaker 15: I know that, you know, we're not entitled to know any everything as the media and as the fans, but it seems like a curious decision to list him has managed How can you rest a bloke if you're traveling him on three our flight across you know?
01:00:29
Speaker 11: So I think I think.
01:00:30
Speaker 15: It's a an It's the one that's going to create debate right up until the start of this game. I know ROWI was very strong on it last night. He clearly thinks texts in the Best twenty two. It made the point that Murray Davis said this is a dress rehearsal.
01:00:44
Speaker 11: Well, if it's a dress rehearsal.
01:00:45
Speaker 15: And texasn't playing, does that suggest then that he's not in your best twenty three. So there's more questions than answers we have at the moment. We'll hear from Nathan van Berlow on nine News tonight, so I'm interested to his his take and clearly Matthew Nicks after this match.
01:00:59
Speaker 11: But if we we move on to the game.
01:01:01
Speaker 1: I mean it's huge, it's huge, Yeah, it's huge Fremantle coming off a loss last week. They're not going to have two losses in a row leading up to finals. And the Crows have made six changes, so you know there's a lot of balls in the air.
01:01:15
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and that's the thing you've got to remember as well. They haven't lost here in Perth this season the Dockers, so this has literally been a fortress.
01:01:23
Speaker 11: We know the crowd and how they get right behind them.
01:01:27
Speaker 15: Clearly some handy ins bringing back in Saligo, Nan, Curvis Borlets among others. But you've got to remember as well, and this is the other reason why I thought the the decision on Walker was curious. Alex Neilbourne stayed home ahead of the birth of his second child, so with Rory led back in the side, they're still missing two of their three most experienced players in Texas Neilbourne. I just thought an environment like this, a tough road trip, that sort of experience would be in value. So that's invaluable. So that's another factor in it. Dan Curtin spoke to him last night. He suggested that he's going to head back to a wing with now Saligo, Berrying Petling all back in that side, and Darcy Foggerty returns, so that is a huge win.
01:02:06
Speaker 11: He's clearly going to be fired up.
01:02:07
Speaker 15: The fact that he hasn't played the last three games for his suspension he and the club definitely thought was an overreach. So if he comes out and performs rather Phil forbe is able to find his best. He did struggle in the wet last week. Understandably, it looks like they're going to remove the second ruck duties from him, given the fact that Toby Murray has come into the side, so you think he's in there to second ruck alongside Lockie mc andrews. So they've made a lot of changes. They are close to their best side, or be it without Wayne Miller and the alfore mentioned texts, Hey, let's go, let's see, let's see what they've got and this they can take it up to the likely minor premiers.
01:02:40
Speaker 1: Well, meanwhile, back in Adelaide Port face Melbourne, that will be a tough contract.
01:02:46
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, look, I think they're just waiting for the finish line now, but we know Josh Carr has continued to pump this group up and try and get them to perform.
01:02:54
Speaker 11: Clearly some handy ins. Joe Richards will return to that midfield.
01:02:57
Speaker 15: I mean when he broke his finger that game, he had thirty one touches and kick the goal, so I think that if I remember correctly, that was against Freemantle as well, so he performed really well. He comes back into the side after that surgery and he's recovered from that. Miss George Yady as well back in that forward line, so at least they've got a bit more firepower to try and take on Melbourne. Who well, look if you're if you're the Crows, you're really hoping you can get on the.
01:03:20
Speaker 11: Powers bandwagon and they can help you out exactly.
01:03:23
Speaker 15: And somehow upset the Demons because that's in a real race with Geelong and Melbourne.
01:03:28
Speaker 11: The Crows are for that top four spot.
01:03:30
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Jason horn Francis is leaning up?
01:03:35
Speaker 11: Yeah, a little bit.
01:03:35
Speaker 15: I mean if he's clearly fine, he's clearly okay. But you do wigh with these sort of injuries when it is around the knee area, did you just go, hey, let's just pack it up. But clear mit, it goes to tick him off and he's good to go fingers crossed.
01:03:48
Speaker 11: That proves me the case. Once he gets through the game tomorrow.
01:03:51
Speaker 1: Well, great to chat. Good on your Brandon and I hope it's a very eventful trip back on the flight because the boys are won exactly.
01:03:59
Speaker 11: Thanks Graham, appreciate it.
01:04:00
Speaker 4: Monday's his mate.
01:04:01
Speaker 1: Great Ingram nine News sports reporter over in Perth, back after the News five Double A Mornings.
01:04:07
Speaker 5: With Graham Goodings.
01:04:10
Speaker 1: Past eleven and five Double A on a Friday morning. We still have two double passes to give away to the Royal Show. It could be you if you're one of our callers between midday eight double two three double oh double? Oh no, Nick, you're not qualify your You lean into the microphone. They're like, oh, can I have for passes? Oh no?
01:04:28
Speaker 4: How did he get to showtime already?
01:04:30
Speaker 1: I don't know, it is sn't real. But if you've just tuned in Nick Hayes from Media stable to join him in the studio, Yeah, yeah, always amazing. When we get the showtime, you think where did the rest of the year go? I mean, you know, once the showtime you're on downhill slave into Christmas.
01:04:43
Speaker 4: Then well, next thing you know, it is the Christmas pageant and then it's it's Christmas.
01:04:47
Speaker 1: It's croaky anyway, what's been happening in the media this week?
01:04:52
Speaker 4: Well, funny enough, Graham. I just felt this week has actually been a very quiet week in the whole scheme of things. If you can put it in comparison to the rest of the year, it seems as it seems as though it's been a little quiet, but there's always something happening, and always something happening, particularly in media. Of course, Donald Trump is always going to be number one, The Prime Minister is always going to be number two. They've been talking. They've been talking.
01:05:14
Speaker 1: The Prime Minister on television very early this morning. I thought he hasn't much sleep, that he's been talking to the Trump moister.
01:05:20
Speaker 4: See, this is the interesting thing with the Prime Minister. He was criticized very early on, particularly in the Trump days, when he wasn't even able to get a line with the President of the United States, and now he's talking to him overnight and having a good chat. But obviously they were talking tariffs, they were talking trade, they're talking orcus and look, I think, you know, we only hear what the Prime Minister's got to say about how those conversations went. Many of us probably not too sure as to how they do play out, but we'd like to see better relationships with the United States. It's supposed to be our best ally, but sometimes you get I feel like we get treated like we're the sort of the discipline. Like the way Trump goes about it is, you know, we're supposed to be his best mate, but he treats us like we're almost the enemy. Yeah, and that's a sense and feel.
01:06:09
Speaker 11: Now.
01:06:09
Speaker 4: I know Trump supporters won't say that, they won't feel that, but it's that's just the way that it sort of comes across.
01:06:16
Speaker 1: We had a text earlier who made a good point that Alberz he should be far stronger about saying, oh, we'd like you to waive the you know, the tariffs and so forth. I mean, we are a key supporter of the US yep, you know, we supply so much to them. We are, you know, asset rich, minerals rich. You know, we've got this orcsteel and there's so much that's intertwined between the countries. We should be a bit more forceful.
01:06:41
Speaker 4: I think we should, and I think there's a lot of support in the Congress as well in the United States is to be looking after this relationship that they've got with US and and and cherish it and really develop it further and take it to another level. But it just doesn't seem to come across that like that. With Donald Trump. I think that's what he does with the whole world. Oh, Donald Trump just treats everyone.
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not singlings out, No he's not.
01:07:06
Speaker 4: And to be fair, we probably do get a slightly better deal. But what has been interesting is that even with our overseas product and what we've been selling into the United States. It has not dropped off. In fact, if anything, it's got better. So you know, this is all bravado at the end of the day, that he plays a big game, but whether it actually works or delivers for the United States is a whole other thing. The other big thing that happening during the week grain was the Reserve Bank. They said they sat on it. They didn't want to move them up or down, they just sat on the number. That's really causing major concern for people with regards to the price of their house and what it's valued. The value seemed to have been dropped off, not so much here in Adelaide, if East Coast, if you're Melbourne or Sydney, you're seeing your house drop quite dramatically. I'm not sure that's happening over in Perth, but it's actually having a major effect to the point that come Wealth Bank, the biggest bank in Australia, has seen over twenty percent drop off of home loan's requests. So it's huge. That is a huge job and we're seeing this happen. So the governments under a little bit of fire for that. But is that the twist is that the turn that needs to happen for people to get into homes, for younger people to get into homes.
01:08:23
Speaker 1: It could be yeah, yeah, and that's on hold. I mean, the other is full shadowed that they're still not going to go up. Interest rates will go up.
01:08:31
Speaker 4: They yeah, And that's the suggestions there from all the professionals. But who knows. Who knows, because I sometimes it's just a big raffle. The other big one the Pauline Hands and I know you've been covering her on your show, and you had the student on yesterday. This rally went national. And the thing that frustrates me, Graham, is that as a public relations professional and as someone who's talks strategy and communications strategy with a lot of organizations, I've to get the students and put them in a and I'll actually take them for a lesson about what this actually does in reality, what it actually does when you put these rallies on, and particularly the way some of them have behaved. Now, sure media does focus on certain elements of the way that a crowd will behave, but what this protest actually does is just emboldens the One Nation movement. If you're a believer in Pauline Hands and one nation, you are now even further locked in. But what it actually really does is then opens the door to those that have been sitting on the fence and go, oh, actually, maybe Pauline might be on the money with all of this. Because of this kind of behavior that's going on. The protest doesn't work anymore. The protest like that doesn't work. And I want to say, hats off to a lot of the schools here in South Australia because they sent out messages to parents saying we don't condone this. You know, if you want your child there at that protest, it's on you. It's not going to be a school sanctioned event at all. So yeah, I just it frustrates me, and I think it frustrates a lot of the listeners, and it frustrates a lot of people seeing that kind of thing, and it does get us talking about it.
01:10:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no question, as I said to you before, off here it's given Pauling hands oxygen. I mean, if people stopped talking about her, she's not making headlines like she was when you know she rated twelve points or whatever. Yep, she was just incidental to the main main game spot on how she is the main game.
01:10:28
Speaker 4: She is the main game. And you're absolutely spot on, Graham in that if we continue to talk about her, that is why her ratings go up to twenty to twenty five percent. Is potentially a preferred prime minister because we are talking about her. It is a fire, it is going through it and it's ravaging the political spectrum big time. And the only way to stop that is to actually just not talk about it and look at us. We're giving her more oxygen. So it just works for her.
01:10:58
Speaker 1: When I spoke to the protester yesterday, protest organizer about pauling Hansen and the rally, I said, you realize, you know, your accused of being a racist and a sexist and the like. I said, you realize thirty percent of the nation believe in what Paul and Hanson's saying. Are you saying that thirty percent of Australians are racist and sexist? And they effectively dismissed that. Well, I don't think people are racist and sexist.
01:11:27
Speaker 4: I don't think they are, But I think I think they're just upset and they've lost their They've lost their belief in the mainstream system and the way that it's going and if the mainstream system doesn't get its act together, then it's going to be really telling at the polls, and particularly with the Victorian election coming up, that's going to be something to watch.
01:11:47
Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt that it's a party of protest at the moment. It is certainly Where you travel the country, you're always somewhere else Where were you on census night?
01:11:58
Speaker 4: I was here? And now like I was here? Did it? Did it on the kitchen table Tuesday night? Did it? The ads are still running though, Graham? Why are ads still running for the census? I'm confused now. It might be the fact that people, if you haven't done your census, get it in hurry up. But either that or it's been poorly managed by the networks or by the actual advertising people. But the other side of it is the fines. Have you seen the fines?
01:12:26
Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty four dollars a day, a day, a day. How do they get that figure? Exactly? Don't you love that? Three you will we find three hundred and sixty four dollars a day.
01:12:36
Speaker 4: Well, there happens to be three hundred and sixty four days in a year, three sixty five. No I'm just taking off a dollar for the fact that a discount the discount, but thank you for that. But it's just a it's a number in the air, isn't it.
01:12:50
Speaker 1: Now it's and now they've backed away from it. Well, look you're still you know, you've still got time to get your senses done. We're more concerned about getting the census figures than we are imposing.
01:13:03
Speaker 4: Finance I forget. And there was lots of questions in there, with gender and everything like that, But the most famous, the fact, the one that I love the most, was are you prepared to give this data up in ninety nine years so that it could be made public? I went yes. My significant other went no. Really, I reckon, that's an interesting ask of the audio or audience, which way did you go yes or no to give up that content? Because we're all very protective of it. But yet we're all on Facebook, we're all giving out content for free.
01:13:31
Speaker 1: Kyle Sanderlans speaking about high profiles and so forth, what do you make of his efforts to get back on.
01:13:37
Speaker 4: Air, Well, he started your show on Monday. It's a big move to do his own thing and to get out there. It's not really something big for South Australians. But there'll be a few people that will be listening that are fans of it. Very clunky start. I think he's just woken up and realized that there's more to radio. There's more to radio than just speaking on it. It's a big production thing. I think he's got a fair bit of backing and support for it. But my prediction he'll be off the air in two months time. I think it's I think he's bitten off a lot more than he can chew here, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But he did come off early today, didn't He came.
01:14:14
Speaker 1: After two hours? They sit hands in the air. We can't do it.
01:14:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, but look at us talking about him again. And that's the other thing. He's very powerful in that way to get and raise awareness around what he's up to and what he's doing. And he's doing a good job of it. But I don't think it's going to last very long.
01:14:29
Speaker 1: Final thing before we let you go, Nick, guys, see that Johnny Young has passed away. Remember Young Talent Time?
01:14:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what a classic show to grow up with, and and that that beautiful song at the end and bringing everyone together that closet even started her career there and a lot of great Tina Arena, all of those great people that Oh, we've sort of grown up with Johnny Young. He was a big part of growing entertainment and that's very sad to.
01:14:56
Speaker 1: See ye sadly missed. Yeah, Nick, thanks for coming in today.
01:15:00
Speaker 4: Good so I look forward to seeing you next week.
01:15:01
Speaker 1: Have you forty team does well?
01:15:02
Speaker 4: I hope so to hope yours does as well.
01:15:04
Speaker 1: Back shortly with a year review, we're looking at nineteen seventy nine.
01:15:09
Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:15:12
Speaker 1: Twenty three past eleven five Double A. Shortly we'll look at the year in nineteen seventy nine. But before we do, the sad news the passing of Johnny Young. Remember Young Talent Time. He spoke to Graham Corn's some time ago on conversations with Cornsey. How did Young Talent Time come about? Because you're still quite a young man?
01:15:32
Speaker 13: Yes, I was okay, So when I came back from England, I was I was twenty two, and then I had two years of the songwriting and doing radio and in nineteen Christmas, in nineteen seventy I got invited by Network ten to come up with something to go against the football because Saturday and I was always football replays on Channel two, Channel nine and Channel seven, they all had their football replays. And I had done something well, you know, I'd done the Goho and I've done other things for Channel ten, and they liked what I did as as a host, so they gave me an opportunity, another opportunity tank And as a kid, I had always loved the Mickey Mouse Club. When I'm talking about being a kid, you know when it was and that a and that Unicello was the first girl I noticed was a girl. You know it was it.
01:16:39
Speaker 6: Was well.
01:16:43
Speaker 13: Exactly and it was mighty. You know. I loved the Mickey Mouse Club, and I particularly loved the feeling that they had at the end where they all got together and you know, the host Jimmy and all the kids around him and they would saying now I under said goodbye to all our family, and you know, it was wonderful. It was it had a feeling to it. So when they asked me to find something for to go against the football replays, I had always had a yearning to do something like limity mouth clubs. So I got together a bunch of kids and you know, we got a small budget from Channel ten because you know, they had no idea what I was going to do and whatever, but that trusted me, so they gave me the gig and April nineteen seventy one, Young Talent Times started on a four week contract and with from the very first episode we outraged the football because it was different, you know, it was different to footy replays and all the others worked competing for that foot the audience, but there were a lot of people who went into the footies and so they were into Young Talent Time. And for eighteen years, from that day a Law nineteen seventy one Street through nineteen eighty eight, a Young Talent Time was never off there. It was on every weekend and different time slots around Australia. But it was a yeah. Well, I also got married and had kids and so I was living the Young Talent Time family life in my own private life as well, of course, and so you know I had eighteen fantastic years with Talent Time, and you know I loved every minute of it.
01:18:48
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Late Johnny Young speaking with Quancy on Conversations with Cornsy back in November twenty twenty one. Yeah, I think we all fondly remember Young Talent Time and the stars that came from that show. Tina Arena and Jamie Redfern and Conlie Minogue and Danny Minogue. The list goes on and on and on. It was required viewing. As Johnny said way back then, it actually outrated the football at one stage, which is pretty amazing to believe.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings
