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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday, this third day of February. Thanks for tuning in. We've got lots to talk about today. Hopefully hear from you on your views on what's happening around the world. Eight double two to three double double oh is the number to ring before we get down to matters. Something I want to put before you personality politics. Do you vote for the person or do you vote for the party. Decades ago, people were more rustled on as they voted largely for the party labor, working class, trade unions, public sector workers, lower to middle income owners, the Liberal Party, business owners, professionals, higher income owners, self employed. Then there were rural interests via their coalition partner, the Nationals. Although there were larger than life personalities like Sir Robert Menzies and Bob Hawk, Australians largely voted on what the parties had to offer. Over the decades, the lines have become blurred. Coalition and labor policies have merged. Gut Field politics has become more research and poll led. The Labour Party has become the part of the trendy left. The disregard for upsetting voters for the good of the country has been replaced by let's upset as few people as possible. The aim apparently not to improve the lot of Australians, but to guarantee a win at the next election. Bob Hawk once said, when toppled by Paul Keating, I think I would have been better place to win the next election. What most of us would have preferred him to say was I think as Prime Minister I would have been better placed to run the country. In more recent times, Australia has followed the US presidential style, promoting the leader ahead of the policy. And how well has that gone? In South Australia. We have the consummate personality politician in Peter Malanaskis policy society is charismatic, decisive, a born leader. The Liberal Party well Ashton Hern has had too little time in the job to form solid opinions, but the recent history of Liberal leadership suggests a long time and opposition. In the past week, two high profile names have thrown their hats in the ring, former Crow's Captain Chris McDermott, who's running for a legislative council position for the Sarah Game Fair Go Party. Reaction to his nomination has been so positive that he's taken the number one position on the ticket. Then yesterday Cory Bernardi, former high profile politician who abandoned the Liberal Party, signed on with Pauline Hanson's One Nation and will head the One Nation ticket. One Nation has gained huge traction in Australia, with many dissillusion Coalition supporters jumping ship and even a number of labor supporters turning to Pauline Hansen. Now two questions, do personalities mean more than party policies when you're considering your vote? And with Corey Bernardi having thrown his cap into the ring, does that make you take One Nation more seriously? I'd like to know your thoughts eight double two to three double oh is the numbered ring? Like to know what you're thinking about that? Steve on the text line says the Treasurer recently said the essay economy is performing very well with surpluses predicted in the budget. Can you confirm if the forward estimates still shows we are heading for a fifty billion dollar deficit or has it been revised? Good question, Steve, I don't know. I know it was at high forty seven billion, the deficit heading towards fifty billion. I don't know, but we'll do our best to find out if someone can put us in the picture. Like to hear from you on the show today. Well, is it another nail in the coffin for the Liberal Party? Former federal Liberal Cory Bernardi joining the One Nation will contest the state election. We will find out more about that. The future of the Coaldition remains unclear. Despite Susan Lee and David Littleproud taking the first steps towards a potential reunification of the parties. They had a crucial meeting last night. We'll find out the full outcome and the impact of that with Seven News political reporter Mark Riley. Shortly. Now you call for a taxi or order an uber. When you go to climb in the vehicle, you notice theres no one behind the wheel. Autonomous cars are coming to Australia, like it or not. We'll find out how far away they are, the likelihood of it, and I'd like to know your thoughts on getting into a car without a driver. At least you wouldn't have to make small talk with them, would you. That wouldn't happen. But what are your thoughts about that? We'll have the latest on the Deep Creek fire. Conditions were downgraded overnight, although the fire is still burning out of control and is burning on a pretty large front. We'll find out the latest on that. Southern Koala and a Kidner Rescue needs your help. What can you do to keep this vital service going? We'll find out about that. And speaking of animals, it's Groundhog Day in America, when the state of Pennsylvania learns if winter will go on for another six weeks, made famous by the Groundhog Movie with Bill Murray. Do you like that movie? I must say I love that movie. It's one of my favorites. But it's all based around punks Attorney Phil Well. We've crossed to Growler's Nobbert Punks Attorney to find out Phil's weather prediction.
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Speaker 2: It's goods.
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Speaker 3: We look to the future and not just the past, so I suppose this party could use a forecast. It is my job this February two to look to the skies and report back to you that there is a shadow here on my ground.
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Speaker 4: Six more weeks of Winter.
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Speaker 1: About well with a mixed reaction Punks Attorney Phil Six More Weeks of Winter, Punks Attorney Phil forecast. Do you like the Bill Murray movie Groundhog Day. I must say I love it, and speaking of a groundhog day, that you look at our weather for the next few days. Today forecast thirty two degrees, Wednesday thirty two degrees, top, Thursday thirty two degrees, top, Friday thirty two degrees. I got you, your babe, and Saturday it drops back to thirty one. But there you go. We're go having a fine spell of weather. Although we always really need to think about you know, a farmer's thinking this is fine, whether they haven't seen any rain for two months now, when was the last time we had rain? We could certainly do with some forty four days ago. Good on your sam My producer Sam co host of the early morning breakfast show on five Double A with Ned McHenry. By the way, south of Strada's debt approaching fifty billion dollars, deficit is in surplus. Interesting, isn't it when you put it that way so you can make it sound good. You know, oh, look that we're going to balance the budget this year, but we owe close to fifty billion dollars. That's a lot of money per man, woman and child in the state, isn't it. Eight double two three double o, double o and what's in a name? Some interesting statistics on giving a child a bizarre name or different name or different spelling could have long term effects. I want to know from you. Have you given your child an unusual name? Do you have an unusual name? What is it? If you'd like to share it with us, I'd like to hear eight double two three double o double is the number? Back? Shortly five double A?
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Speaker 5: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Ninety minutes past nine five double A on a Tuesday morning, Judith says, Hi, Graham, love your show. If AI is driving, who loads my groceries? Does this mean I shop online and skip the trip? Now there's a question. There is a question. Speaking of shopping online. I was trying to drive into West Lakes Shopping Center near the Woolworths entrance the other day and I couldn't get in there. There was a lineup of cars doing the you know, the people have done their shopping online and then they had to queue up and you couldn't literally drive in to the parking space or in the parking area because of the lineup of cars. So I know people do this shopping online. It's terrific. And it saves time. But then you spend ten minutes queued up in a line to pick up your groceries. Maybe this was an unusual occurrence. I don't know. But do you have you changed the shopping online? That's one thing I noticed at the supermarket these days almost as many people and people shopping pushing their trolleys. Do you have staff from will Worts or Calls or whoever doing the shopping for other people? Must say that all dry goods in that it seems to be all right, But I don't know about shopping for fruit and veg getting other people to make a choice for you. Eight double two three doublelow doubleow, Steve says GGI. I don't want to bore your listeners, but find it interesting that AI states revenue upgrades. State taxation is revised up by seven hundred and ninety six million dollars over the period twenty twenty five twenty six to twenty seven twenty eight. Now wonder surplus is predicted in the short term. Thank you for that, Steve. The Dry Creek bushfire burning overnight, we'll find out the latest situation on it now. The CFS State Deputy Commander is Ray Jackson, he joins us. Now, Ray, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: What's the state of Dry Creek at the moment.
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Speaker 6: So the Fororide Creeks continue to burn. Our volunteers and some of our partner agencies last night worked really hard to try to contain this fire, but obviously in those difficult areas, it was not able to be contained overnight. So there is still active fire down there. So we have got a watch and act message prepared to leave for the Deep Creek fire still out.
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Speaker 1: So it's been downgraded from emergency, is.
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Speaker 6: There right, Yeah, that's correct. So overnight those fire behaviors dropped out of it as we normally expect, but we still want people to remain vigilant and aware because there is still fire burning in that landscape.
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Speaker 1: Are there any properties or many properties in the area.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a number of properties and certainly of a concern yesterday when we issued the emergency warning message, was some very strong concerns for Kate Jarvis. But fortunately crews were able to get around there and protect the town. And we still do have people in that area just to ensure that if it does get up and towards the town again this afternoon when the winds come up, but we've got resources in place to protect the town and outlying properties.
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Speaker 1: Do you know the size of the fire, how much is it burnt out?
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Speaker 6: So this stage it's approximately twelve hundred hectares, so it's a reasonable size file a lot of fire edd so that that's why you know, it's quite challenging to book control lines around as fire of that size in that type of corone, how.
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Speaker 1: Many people have you got fighting ways?
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Speaker 6: So at the moment we've got around about two hundred and fifty CFS, MSS and DW people down there. Firefighters are working in those challenging conditions and we're also being supported by the SEES base camp and some other logistical functions.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to a fire of this kind, you are you lacking for any resources or do you have enough to be able to manage it at this stage?
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Speaker 6: So at this stage we've got enough to management. We continually reassess that as we go along, so we try to do as much forward planning is possible because it's not just the firefighters on the ground, it's our incident management and our support personnel to that. So at the moment We've got adequate resources to manage this fire.
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Speaker 1: We're heading for top of thirty two degrees today, not good firefighting weather. But what have you heard from the bureau regarding is it any winds likely to play a part?
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Speaker 6: We are expecting some wind changes during the day, so over the day it will go from the north to the east southeast. So we've factored that into our plannings for the day. And we do know that down there there's challenges with the gully wins, which is some of the issues we had with the fire yesterday in that they pushed the fire in a number of different directions.
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Speaker 1: And what about smoke. Is smoke making much of an impact So at this.
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Speaker 6: Stage not as huge an impact as it was yesterday, But I anticipate during the day that that will pick up and cause some challenges as the wind swings around to the east southeast. Then obviously that will put back across the Cape Jervis area. But yeah, we'll continue them on to that during the day.
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Speaker 1: It probably not likely to impact the metropolitan area, not at this stage.
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Speaker 6: No, not with the wind direction we're expecting today.
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Speaker 1: Ray Jackson, thanks for your time today. We'll keep in touch.
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Speaker 6: No problem.
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Speaker 1: Thank you going CFS State Deputy Commander with the Deep Creek fire at the moment not under control, but certainly it's in the watch and Act state. But it's burnt out quite a large area. There are some properties in the area, and we'll keep you informed as the day progresses. David Paparella is a Cape Jervis resident who's in the vicinity of the firing joint is now David, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning Graham to you and your listeners.
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Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about the fire? Did it come close to you?
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Speaker 7: Yes, it did. It got to about one and a half kilometers maybe less to the eastern boundary of the town overnight to the surface did an amazing job in terms of stopping it progressing any further to the town. There was a lot of activity in the town and also around the town from the fire cruise to protect the town and the assets therein. They did an amazing job. And yeah, it came very very close last night for sure.
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Speaker 1: Was there any suggestion you'd need to evacuate.
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Speaker 7: We got to the stage where we were the warning from the CFS was prepared to leave. Most of the people who were still in the town at that point in time would have gone down to the boat ramp. That's the emergency reporting or refuge place, which is down by the lighthouse. There were a number of people down there last night with boats should they have been needed, and pretty much Southwold was probably going to be a no go area to actually get out last night due to the fire where it was burning and a number of people that were up there working to stop it going any further.
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Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't have got much sleep overnight because you just don't know what the fire is going to do.
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Speaker 7: That is correct, Graham. It's quite an eerie thing because there's so much activity going on around the town, and yet the town itself is just so quiet, and you know, a lot of the work that has been done around the town has been able to keep us safe. And looking at it right now, where the fire has burned last night, we're in the middle of summer and there's a white, misty smoke rising from the sides of the hills, which reminds you of winter. So we're certainly in a very fortunate position to still have our properties and places with us.
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Speaker 1: Could you see the glow of the fire overnight?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you couldn't You certainly couldn't mistake it. And certainly the inaccessible terrain where the fire was burning close to the closer to the town was making things very difficult for the fire cruise from what I could see, you know, they positioned themselves as best they could, given not only the gullies and the steep falls into them, but the trees and things like that that are all around on the side of the hills up there.
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Speaker 1: So what do you rely on regarding warnings from the CFS, you know, how do you keep in touch with them?
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Speaker 7: Sorry, pardon me. We have a We monitor their website on our phones and thankfully, through this particular incident, so far we have not lost power and we've not lost the telecommunications, so we've been very fortunate. And on top of that, we have been going down to the local CFS shed to check with people there as to where things are at.
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Speaker 1: David, thanks for sharing the story with us. Stay safe and we wish everyone in the Cape Jervis area well. Regarding the Deep Creek fire.
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Speaker 7: Thank you so much. Com I really appreciate.
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Speaker 1: It, Paterella Cape Jervis residents. Yeah, I don't know how I'd sleep at night. Knowing that there is a bushfire within one and a half kilometers, would you sleep at all? No, you wouldn't, would you'd stay away? Bushfires are horrendous things, and as a reporter on the road covering a couple of bushfires, you could be three kilometers away and you can still feel the intensity in the heat and they can change direction in such a short time. From the text line I mentioned before about shopping at West Lakes having trouble getting in because all of the cars kulling up to get their groceries that they bought online, and Julie has had a similar problem. High Graham, There's nothing more annoying than trying to get past the number of extra wide trolleys being filled by supermarket staff filling online shopping orders. Some staff seem to be completely indifferent to the customers or there in person trying to do their shopping around them. I understand it's a first world problem, but it's super annoying. Nevertheless, Duly, yeah, that's the problem inside the store. And then Andrew has said we have also had trouble with the western entrance to Westfield at West Lakes, not just being held up once in the car park, but Rednor Drive being blocked with cars banked up waiting to turn into that entrance. It's a gridlock from cars lined up for Wolworths click and collect. It's an ongoing mess. It needs to be fixed. I'm wondering. And maybe they do this. They surely have thought of this, the major supermarkets that have these click and collect services, whether they do the click and collect or they do the gathering of groceries from a bulk warehouse. Why does it need to be a retail outlet because you have these big trolleys going up and down the aisles, and as Julie said, it is you know, she said, it's a first world problem. You know how lucky we are to be able to do our shopping so freely and able. But it does cause problems with these extra wide trolleys. So I wonder why the supermarkets don't just have a bulk supermarket somewhere that fulfills all these online orders. We might find out about that. Maybe someone knows the answer. If you do, I'd like to hear it from you. Eight double two to three double o doublo is the number to ring. Well, what's happening? Susan Lee and David Lidlproud had an urgent meeting last night trying to get the coalition back together. How did it go? We'll speak with seven News political editor Mark Riley shortly.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten. I mentioned earlier that we're not that far away from having driverless cars, autonomous cars, taxis ubers on the road. How would you feel about that car pulls up, you go to climb in and there's no one behind the wheel. How would you feel about that? We'll find out more about it, and says Sir Hi Graham. If the car is driving itself and I'm sitting in the back intoxicated, will I get done for drink driving? A great day? Also online high gig, the failed hydrogen scheme, the wireless steel works debarcle. Someone needs to ask what it costs taxpayers. Also hospital ramping. This Maley government is fanning to give details. Brian Okay, Brian, Yeah, Look, I certainly hope. I expect to have the Premier in the studio at some stage or have him online at least between now and the election. Exactly those questions. We'll ask about the hydrogen scheme, the wireless steel works where it's at at the moment, and hospital ramping what cost to taxpayers? So yes, those questions are on notice and thanks for putting them to us. Well, the focus is every day on Canberra. Susan Lee and David Littelproud held face to face talks last night about reuniting the parties, getting the coalition back together. Hawd to go. Mark Riley is the seven News political editor, joins us now Mark, good morning to you, good one, gra So were the talks fruitful?
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Speaker 8: Well, there were seeds of fruit by the sound of it, the beginning of a process of reconciliation again for the two leaders the former coalition parties. Both of them said it was productive, was held in good spirit and they discussed the one real deal breaker and there was no resolution to that. That deal breaker is the reason for those three National frontbenches voting against the government's Increased Hate Clime Bill a couple of weeks ago, and in doing so breaching shadow cabinet solidarity. Susan Lee is standing on her principles and then as the principle of every leader, that shadow cabinet solidarity must be respected in all circumstances. And the National Party is in thing that the three senators front bench senators be reinstated and forgiven for their transgen transgression. And there's no middle ground being found in that as yet, Graham. But some of the people around the edges of this, there's a lot of shirpers. I guess you'd call them discussions off peace. While the leaders are in their own to the tet and among those strategists they're talking about all sorts of possible middle ground compromises, and one of those would be some time there would be the three senators would serve out of shadow cabinet in Coventry and then before returning as a punishment of some description, but no resolution on that. A process has begun, no fruit a cup of sea.
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Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that Susan Lee has the support of the bulk of the Liberal Party and not reinstating those senators.
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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, I think that both her own moderate faction and the conservative faction would agree on. That is an inviolable principle and one that Liberal leaders going back to Howard and before, have always enforced and enforced very strongly, because you know, he's imposed discipline on the parties. The Liberal Party, of course, has a tradition, unlike Labor where back bench members can speak out and they can vote against the official party position on any given policy if they feel so inclined, so driven to do that. And so he's fairly common to see Liberal Party members and indeed National Party members of the back bench crossing the floor, but never on the front bench because that scene has going against the will of the leader.
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Speaker 1: The talks between David Little Proud and Susan Lee and he took place after the National Party spill on leadership. Obviously David Little Proud was reinstated as leader. Was he really under any challenge, No.
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Speaker 8: He wasn't under a real challenge, at least not from Colin Boyce, who was the challenger yesterday. But I think this is a shot across his bows. Graham. You know, Colin Voice was a straw man candidate, you like in the in the I guess, in the in the context of the National Party, a bit of a scarecrow in the field for the David Little prowd. He called on a spill and in doing so that would allow any other candidate, probably a more acceptable candidate to the broader National Party to reveal themselves if they were so inclined, that didn't happen. So there was a ballot which means he got a seconder, but David Liverpowd won that handsomely. What it did do, though, which is productive, people are Colin boys and the majority of the National Party who were who were very concerned about the way things are progressing with the Libs. It brought on another secondary motion from Darren Chest, the Victorian Gippsland Nationals MP, and that was directing both David Little Proud and the Liberal letter in that National Party room can't do that, but they do things they can't do, directing both of them to had that meeting they had last night and to move constructively towards reuniting the coalition. So what it did was it said that David Little Proud, listen, people in the party aren't happy with the way things are going. They're so unhappy that now you've got someone on the outer reaches of your very small backbench raising a challenge against you, not a serious one, but a bad look and in doing that, we're telling you now by resolution to party room, go and fix this.
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Speaker 1: So the spotlight was on National Party leadership. What about Susan Lees leadership. Things gone quiet for a day, or say.
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Speaker 8: Well they should today, shouldn't they? I mean, really, we've got the RBA decision to staff with expectations in the markets that is probable, certainly possible. Now I think it's about sixty forty that there will be an interest rate rise today and if not today, next month, and that is bad used for the government told us the worst of the inflation problem was behind us, and inflation is going up. And if the Preserve Bank responds with its one lever that is increasing interest rates, that starts the hurt people. Costs an extra several hundred dollars a month on mortgages. So there's no time to start fighting among yourselves when you've got a big fight for the people who elected you and put you in Camper to represent. And remember then a lot of a lot of these politicians them too, But they're the ones who are important in all this. Not yourself, not your own ego, not your ambition, not how you look to your colleagues, how people are feeling in their own lived experience, battling each day to pay their mortgages, put their kids to school, run a car, and do all those things that we do, and they their representatives to be switched on to v needs, not their own personally, So.
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Speaker 1: Not a lot to ask, would thought. That's not a lot to ask. That's what we pay them for.
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Speaker 8: Reasonably self evident, you know, Graham, I would imagine. But you know that's a lesson in all this, I think, mate. But if you know, if these politicians they just have to face reality if you act like a self obsessed bunch of unelectable numb skulls. But thoters will believe it. They will say, yep, that's what you are, and they'll say, we'll vote for One Nation or somebody else. I'll give you a little bit of updated on One Nation to Cory Bernardi, Paul and Hansen has announced this morning we'll be standing in the Upper House in South Australian elections. It's her candidates, so that seems to be confirmed now for one Nation. So and with twenty six percent support Graham for One Nation nationally, it won't be that at the next election. It might be, but he's a big protest at the moment and people looking for a third way, mostly off the con service side of politics. But also we shouldn't underrate this also from the Labour side of politics, we're disillusioned. We both were the major parties looking for something else. You know that there is a historical high that the Democrats who came from South Australia, they never rose to that level at thirteen I think at the peak, and the Dorp never rose to those sorts of levels. And the Green's got to dream of twenty six percent. That is the largest third party vote ever in Australian history. So this is a real problem for all the major Well.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, mark, The South of Stralian election is only seven weeks away. This will be a real litmus test for one nation. And if that those figures, the popularity figures, translate into actually seats on benches, absolutely, it will be fascinating.
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Speaker 8: Graham. I'm looking forward to it immensely. I think it'll be. It will be a little test, you are right, and it will tell us just how angry people are in real Australia with what's going on now. They're are obvious differences between a competent government in South Australia under Peter Malanaskus is one of the better premieres suspected to make that judgment. Sure without bias, but that doesn't seem to matter because when people get angry they take it out on the first person. It looks like a politician in stance for them. That just happens to email an oscars. So we got to watch out.
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting. Let's get back to Canada then, with the coalition not the coalition anymore. How does that work when it comes to parliament? The Nationals move for the cross bench?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well the Nationals, well, effectively they do because they are really a cross bench presence. Now there's only fourteen of them in a House of Reps and four senators eighteen party party rem all up. So they will physically sit in the backs rows of the opposition benches, separated by a row of empty seats which will be quite stark between the Limberals and the Nationals, and then they'll bend across to the cross bench. The cross bench will now contain twenty eight members including the Nationals, so fourteen Nationals and fourteen others, and the Liberal Party has twenty eight members, so fifty fifty split between what is now regarded as the only opposition party, the Liberals and the cross Bench. At twenty eight and up to the government then to decide how the ten usually ten, sometimes eleven questions from that side of the house are divided. Will the Liberal Party get five and the cross Bench and that's another five and will it go one one? Which really breaks the tempo, the rhythm of the traditional question time and stifles the ability of an opposition to build momentum on any particular issue.
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Speaker 1: It certainly takes the pressure of the important.
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Speaker 8: Time for them. Yeah, the government well takes the pressure off the government. And this is none too fine a point either, grain for all of this that it's not good for our democracy made it really isn't on it. You know, it doesn't matter who the government is and who the opposition is. The Australian people deserves an opposition in the in the parliament to shine a like light on those shady places of government where you know the nasties reside and you need an effective opposition to keep the government honest. And we won't have that at the month.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the feed to have. We get back on this program all the time that you know, whichever way people vote, they just want a strong opposition to keep the has done to say to keep the barstards honest.
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Speaker 8: The bastard's honest, you know. And it's really interesting to hear now that Pauline Hans and I've heard this one of her stump speeches the other day and a lot of not to be too unkind to Pauline, not the greatest rhetorical aures, but she tends to hurl a lot of very active now and the crowd and they sort of pick up pizza and pieces.
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Speaker 9: Here and there.
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Speaker 8: But she had a very nice line the other day where she said, you know, don Chip famous said, I want to keep the bastards honest. Well, I want to get rid of the bustards. And there was a row of excitement from the crowd in Queensland. You know, you can almost see the pitchforks and the fiery sticks being waved in there. You know, there is anger and it's now coalisting around one nation, a grievance fights, and I think it's going to be fascinating timent politics at the next several months.
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Speaker 1: We'll watch on with interest. Mark Riley, thanks so much for're insight. Appreciate it, great pleasure, all of it. Seven News political editor Mark Riley on the Two Wings and throwings in Canberra. If you have a thought on that a double two three double o double o. Steve says Susan Lee should show some real leadership and reinstate the three nationals. The ultimate goal is to make this inept government accountable and to show unity. I have lost patience and will vote one nation. Your thoughts love to hear them. Eight double two three double o double oh is my number five double.
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Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's eleven to ten five double A. Take some calls in a moment. You can get through right now. Eight double two three double o double oh. Let's look at the stock market. All odds is having a strong startup by eighty five points, ASX two hundred is also starting strong, up by eighty seven points. US stocks rows following sharp swings that shook forinancial markets, including tumbles for Asian stocks and then gains in Europe. The Dow Jones was strong at the close, up by five hundred and fifteen points. Nasdaq was up at the clothes too, by one hundred and thirty points. Oil down by almost three dollars to sixty two US dollars a barrel. Will that be reflected the bowser. The Aussie dollar is buying sixty nine US cents. If there any dramatic changes on the market during the morning, will certainly bring them to you. Nick. Good morning, morning, Grail.
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Speaker 9: I want you to listen to this very careful and you listeners as well. Yesterday afternoon at five o'clock, friend of Mike call me say, Nick, can you tug you my dad to leaders medical because I'm in the Stide on business trip. So I took him down five pm yesterday his again, his doctor, his GP contact the horse.
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Speaker 2: We do.
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Speaker 9: I want to tug you Tema Rai because he's been slipping for many hours to finish this morning five o'clock. Graham awarey of fifty people there, and I felt sorry for them. What stopped someone to come and ask the public if I want a biscuit or vegemied sum. If I were, if a dog was there, I would have given something to eat. Graham.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess they would say they don't have the staff to do things like that, but they're overstretched and overstressed already, and.
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Speaker 9: Still the doctor hasn't seen that man, Graham, unbelievable. I was looking those people's vices and I said, oh my god, I couldn't leave the price in case I called them to god, get something to it. But where can I go two o'clock in the morning to get something to eat? Gryam As Health System Malanascas and the health minister shine, shine, shine, I never experienced anything like in my life.
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Speaker 1: Well, and yet let's stay governments around billions at health. You don't think they're throwing it in the right direction.
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Speaker 9: No, definitely not.
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Speaker 8: Gam.
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Speaker 9: You should have been there last night, Mite, I could not believe it.
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Speaker 1: So this is.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the people medical emergency, the people will pay forty wanted to see the doctor. They got more Sikh whiting. My friend said to me Nick midnight, can you tug me from place? I said, no, Mike, we spent so many yars now here. We've got a white for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, look, I wish I give you some sort of answer, Nick, but it's a story that is replicated all over our emergency departments around the state. And unfortunately you have experienced at firsthand. But anyone of those experienced time in emergency realizes that they're not enough staff, they enough beds. Yeah, what is the answer. If you have an answer, I'd like to know it? Eight double two three, double oh, double oh is the number to ring from the text line. Jodi says, hi, Gg, you say bolt, who I call insane?
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Speaker 5: Bolt?
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Speaker 1: As a child called thunderbolt. Thank you for that, Jadie, that came out of insane name or unusual names that you called your children. You might think it's cute and different and so forth, but you've got to remember they're going to grow up to be adults and have to live with those names. So what name did you end up with? Did you your parents give you an insane, unusual, bizarre name and different spelling. How have you handled it? Or have you done that with your children? Said? You give them this name, it'll make them distinctive and stand out. I'd like to know Ronza's labor has one government on the backs of the green second preferences now liberal and one nation can do the same.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's as easy to that, ron but we shall see. Regarding click and collect and deliveries of groceries, Andrew says, I get online delivery a few times a week with next day deliveries Coals and Wolworth's picked the items from a dispatch center and put on a run delivered by light truck, but for same day pickups and deliveries, they'll pick the items from the store nearest the customer, where you have the option either to pick the items up yourself with the click and collect service, or spend fifteen dollars on the rapid service and have them delivered by car in less than an hour. More and more people are using that service, There's no question about that. Hi Gg Pasadene of food Landers move the disability parking to make way for click and Collect. Instead of being next to the lifts and store entrance in the underground car park, disabled people now have to negotiate the cars and have further to walk. It seems that people who are too lazy to do their own shopping take precedents over the disabled. Thank you for sharing that story with us, Jill. Eight double two three double o double o is the number if you have a comment on Click and Collect. Do you do your shopping more shopping online than you did before? Higg, I'd rather every car be driverless, but have to be better than the drivers we get at the moment behind the wheel. Yeah, eight double two three double double O. This comes about with Waymo who are moving into Australia at some stage and there will be driverless taxis, driverless ubers. How do you feel about it? And Jeff Tay Jeff has sent in a picture obviously in San Francisco. Recently Weimo. He sent two pictures of Weimo driverless taxis in San Francisco. So it is a reality. He says, it's brilliant. So there you go, folks, would you happily accept I mean, if you've got to get from A to B and you go out and there's no one driving the car, what are you gonna do? No, I'll wait till a driver. Thanks. We were talking to Mark Riley a short time ago regarding the power struggle and I think it's fair to say that the coalition or non coalition Susan Lee and David Littelproud had a meeting last night. It didn't resolve the coalition situation, but they were both asked about the meeting last night. This is what Susan Lee told Sky News.
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Speaker 10: The Nationals have chosen to leave the coalition at this point, the door is open. I've maintained that the doors days open, but I am not focused on the door. I am focused straight ahead out here into the Australian communities that we love, respect and are determined to work hard every single day for.
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Speaker 1: And this is what National Party David Little Prand said after the meeting.
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Speaker 11: Forgiven for we will obviously work constructively and they'll be ongoing and that's the way the National Party operates. My room will make a determination as we did a couple of weeks ago. There's no unilateral decisions. And while the gallery thinks so I made these decision unilateral, work as a team and we get this right and we work through this in a considered way. But we couldn't stand by and be sacked for voting against hate speech laws that we don't take away the freedom of speech of Australians.
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Speaker 1: That was David Little Proud speaking last night and the reason for the meeting. The breakup of the collision came after what David Little Proud had to say just over a week ago.
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Speaker 11: She will not, and from subsecut conversations, will not reinstate those three senators to the show our cabinet positions. Therefore the entire ministry resign. But she has also forced the coalition into an untenable position that can no longer continue.
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Speaker 1: So that was the situation a week ago. It seems they've moved a little closer together, but the situation is still unresolved. In the meantime, we have an impotent opposition. The government can come and go do as they please effectively. And I don't think anyone, even if you are an absolutely adamant pro labor supporter, you want to see a weak opposition when those people at gloat and say, ah, we like to see liberals destroying themselves. We like to see the nationals destroying themselves. Do you really want that? Surely not. I mean, we do not really want a situation where the opposition has absolutely no impact. Let's take a call Bob, good morning, how are you.
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Speaker 12: I am just been to San Francisco and we had four trips in the driver's car. Absolutely fantastic, easy to book. They pull up at the hotel. The same trip in a uber would have cost thirty three dollars. We did it for twenty seven dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get a disc out and you don't have to tip the driver. No, So, how did you, Bob getting into the car the first time? How did you feel about it?
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Speaker 12: Fantastic because I just I'm believe in that sort of technology. I've got electric car myself, and they have right. They don't use cameras, they use radar as well, so they're very safe. The only problem is that if they're coming on the road and the car wants to turn left, they just turned in front of them, knowing that they're going to stop. Oh really Yeah, but the pedestrian came in front of and the car stopped, and it also came up against the garbage truck in a narrow street and it sort of went out, the flashed its flights and then went around the wrong side of the road. So they're pretty small.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you you'd welcome them in Adelaide.
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Speaker 12: I love America, and they're cheaper, they're safer. You haven't got some idiot beyond the wheel. It can have an accident. These have done twenty five million miles in San Francisco without causing an accident themselves. There's only accidents they've had this where people have hit.
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Speaker 1: Them, right. Yeah, And I mean anyone who's familiar with San Francisco would know it's not the easiest city to negotiate. I mean that the hills and you know, turns and street and narrow streets and the like it is it is. It's not like Adelaide, but wide open streets.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a lovely I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my favorite city in America. Bob, we'll talk about that.
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Speaker 5: Another.
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Speaker 1: Good on your Bob.
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Speaker 12: Okay, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for your carl. So there's Bob. He's experienced firsthand driverless cars. A normal cab fare would be thirty three dollars. This was twenty seven dollars. He didn't have to tip the driver, didn't have to make small talk. Sounds good. What are your thoughts? Eight double two to three double back After the Knees.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: CFS State Deputy Commander is Rave Jackson.
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Speaker 6: So the fire Deep Creeks continuing to burn. Our volunteers and some of our partner agencies last night worked really hard to try to contain this fire that obviously in those difficult areas, it was not able to be contained overnight. So there is still active fire down there. So we have got a watchin act message prepared to leave for the Deep Creek fire still out.
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Speaker 1: David Paparella is a Cape Jervis resident who's in the vicinity of the farry got to.
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Speaker 7: About one and a half kilometers maybe less to the eastern boundary of the town overnight to the surface did an amazing job in terms of stopping it progressing any further to the town. Looking at it right now where the fire has burned last night, we're in the middle of summer and there's a white, misty smoke rising from the sides of the which reminds you of winter. So we're certainly in a very fortunate position to still have our properties and places with us.
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Speaker 1: Just some of the things that have happened so far. If you'd like to comment on them, I'd love to hear from me. Eight double two to three double o double. Oh, well, how do you feel about being driven around by a driver's car? You can imagine it. You're going out for the night, and you and your partner book a cab and you walk outside, walk up to the car, open the door, then no one behind the wheel. How would you feel about it? Well, it's getting closer to becoming a reality. It's happening in oversea cities. It's happening successfully in places like San Francisco and Los Angeles, but it's soon coming to Australia. What is the impact, when's it likely to happen? Drive dot com dot Au director of Content James Ward joins us. Now, James, good morning to you. Good fighting mate. So the dream that the thing that we saw on TV and movies not that long ago is closer to becoming a reality. This is it.
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Speaker 13: I remember that it was a total recall where he gets into the Johnny cabin in cases that he's got the robot driver.
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Speaker 5: That's it.
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Speaker 13: And we've seen this in you see it at kind of the technology trade shows where they have the shuttle bus that's kind of doing it within the controlled environment. And then in recent years we've seen in the US WEAMO has a series of Jaguar EV SUVs that are completely driverless. They're supervised from a control center, but you call it up on your phone, it shows up at the curb and it takes you somewhere. And now Weaimo, which is the company behind this, is looking to set up in Australia. They've got officers, they're in consultation with governments and they will be looking at trialing this system here in Australia, which is a new legal kind of minefield for US because at the moment in Australia we are regulated to level two autonomy, which requires you can have some automation, but a human is completely in control of the vehicle. To move to what the weimos are, which is arguably level four, it's a big step and you know they can be testing and doing things here. But in order for that to hit a like a consumer, the reality like we've seen in the US and like we see in the movies, yeah, we've we've got to make sure our laws catch up with the technology.
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Speaker 1: The question that a lot of people ask is other than the fact that feeling a little bit unsafe and insecure, is that if there were to be an accident, who's going to be responsible?
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Speaker 13: This is the thing, right, Like we often laugh, people say, I don't know if I want to get into the automotive industry of the mode because it's a bit of a minefield.
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Speaker 1: It's like a tea.
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Speaker 13: Where you'd be great is being an ethics lawyer, because we've all heard of the trolley problem, which is basically that the idea if you've got a tram coming down a rail and it is going to it's going to run over a person. But you stand by the switch, and you can. If you do nothing, it's going to run over one person. If you make a switch, it runs over three people, or the other way around. Either way you're in Action has consequence and action has consequence. And so with autonomy, the trolley problem is that is kind of the big question what does the car choose to do? Because if there is an incident where the car needs to probably protect its occupant in the event of a potential collision, if it can make a decision that protects its occupant but then puts other people in harm's way, or what is that decision making process to be And so it is this is the ultimate ethics question of yeah, which is the lesser of two evils? What decision can the vehicle make? And so what we see in the US is these cars are limited to very low speed. They're just they're not crawling. They're moving at street speeds. But they are in urban areas, so they're doing forty kilometers an hour or thereabouts. You are working within controlled areas. So it's not like you could grab the cab there in Adelaide's CBD and say, you know, take me to Gaula Yeah, take it to gaula right and deal with sort of country driving and stuff like that. So it would need to be managed and governed. But the rule set for the decision making process that is inherently down to technology. Is it going to make the right decision? And you know we as humans love to blame somebody else, So you know, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't want to be that person who's who's writing the code and making the decision and signing it off. And I dare say that's why we will take a lot longer because our politicians are not really known for their you know, risk taking stances. Everybody likes to be very favorable and will do whatever they can to put in red tape so that nobody can be held accountable.
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Speaker 1: Well as well as the moral and legal dilemma, what about the other sorts of aspects of this. There will be a lot of taxi and uber drivers thinking I could be out of a job.
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Speaker 13: Well, this is the thing. And we see we've seen the whole ride share industry turned on its head when Erber came in, and even now you're seeing, like my personal experience with both taxis and ride share operators, you've got people trying to game the system so that they are they're able to charge more, or they can they can choose a different fare. And i'd see what I've had my share of drivers from, you know, whether it's a taxi or a ride share, who I am not comfortable with being behind the wheel. So you've got you've got training, you've got all sorts of things that are put in here at the moment. But again, this is all being kind of governed by ease of use for consumers and big businesses putting big dollars behind it. That the kind of the classic sensibility of what we're offering is is often forgotten and certainly from you know, I remember growing up where you would hear the taxi licenses were worth quarter of a million dollars because they were a way of protecting income. They're now worth nothing. And so if we're putting in these robotized vehicles that are doing all of this menial work, you know, whether it's garbage collection or whether it's this, you've got these service vehicles basically doing set programs. Those professionals who are doing it now are being forced out of work. And we're seeing that, yeah, across across the board. There's not a day that goes by where you don't hear that jobs are under threat from AI. When you're looking at transportation, Yes, jobs are definitely under threat from automation.
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Speaker 1: And it's not a matter of if, but it's a matter of when.
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Speaker 13: No, that's it, and look, the question then begs though. We've seen a couple of cases where there have been injuries and fatalities in the US where these vehicles have done things or made decisions, and quite often the investigation has sort of shown that it was human error at the end of the day. That's going to be the real test is when you've got something that is fully automated and running in a way where it is making decisions. If somebody, somebody loses their life on that, it can grind all of these things to a halt very very quickly.
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Speaker 1: Games Just finally, on another matter of the fuel xise, So, is there any thoughts in the industry that this money is not being spent in the right direction or were being crippled by it?
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Speaker 13: Yes, it is probably the city I think if if any of us have been out on the roads, whatever state you're in, and let's remember so fuel xie is a is national revenue and it goes into what's known as general revenue. And it used to be argued that that xcize from the taxation on fuel would go into roads. Roads just one part of general revenue that can benefit from it. But I don't know if you've been on any roads around Australia at the moment. They're terrible, right, We've got the worst potholes, the worst maintained roads. They're not fixed, they're not they're not properly repaired, they're simply patched. In some states I don't know, Victoria are worse than others in many ways. So the question as to what is happening here, because you get in Melbourne particularly, you get these fighting stanzas of whether it's a state or whether it's a federal a state, or of council responsibility to repair these things. And so that idea of taxation from fuel excise, particularly as we're moving to more fuel efficient vehicles and obviously plug in hybrids and and electric vehicles that are using far less petrol than ever before, the question is now turning to perhaps a road user charge so that we can the government can start to recoup a revenue at a level that they sort of need to for the volume of vehicles that are traveling on our roads. But again it's that the sixty four thousand dollar question, or probably sixty four billion dollar question, is is that money being reinvested to make our roads better, safer, longer lasting. I think the seat of the pansometer says no.
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Speaker 1: James, great to chat, thanks for here inside cheers. Drive dot com dot au director of Content James Ward on self driving cars and potholes. The fuel exercise has gone up again. We pay more in fuel excise than we do for the actual cost of the fuel, and yet the money doesn't go to where it should. What are your thought's eight double two three, double five double.
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Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's twenty two past ten on this absolutely delightful Tuesday, third day of Feb twenty six degrees currently on its way to thirty two. Andrew says, I'm fine with drivers cars, but they come with issues. A month ago, San Francisco had a power outage. All the driver's cars stop dead in the middle of the streets, apparently interacted with the traffic light system and other systems that guide them. But they need electricity well, how would that go in Australia. Not that we have lots of blackouts, but the potential is always there. Gg your comment that nurses etc. Under pressure, overloaded and cannot do the simple things like supply a sandwich. Reference to your caller, It's time to stop pretending that all is well in our health system, to start asking the hard, unpopular questions. Who has priced themselves out of work? Whose work practices have grown to such a level that efficiency and productivity have collapsed. Well, first, I make a point. I don't know that anyone's pretending that all is well in the health system. I don't know who you mean by pricing themselves out of work. Surely you don't mean nurses at that. I mean anyone that suggests that nurses are overpaid. Really, we should spend twelve hours with a nurse and find out exactly what they do. I think they deserve every cent they get. Eight double two to three double O is a number to ring. Cory Bernardi is joining One Nation, as we've heard, and I'm seeing he's just giving a press conference with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson, and will bring you an except of that shortly. When it comes to hand more on the government high gram. The ministers need to sit in an emergency to get the real story. Rah is a pristine looking building which is the most expensive built hospital in the world, means little when the wait times are ridiculous and the emergency department is not run properly. Thank you for that bell. You've had further thoughts on that, I'd love to hear them, Huie, Good morning.
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Speaker 14: Rin and Grahame. You know in life, as we learned that a place is only as good as it's managed.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I.
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Speaker 14: Think and I think half the politicians were operating a fish and chip shop like Pauline Hanson did, they'd have problems. Temperatures would rise and temples would rise, and the customer flow probably go down and to be no better. Often they'd be cursing. They're fellow politicians for the cost of living. So where they are now they're pretty stable and good wages, so whatever that one. Listen, you have that gentleman talking about the drivers. Cars We notice have come out, especially in the Europe and America, especially to facilitate the need for them to try and cut down costs being drivers as such. But the problem which was to discuss with you and your guests a few minutes ago. Insurance now, I think predominantly eventually these cars break down. Being man made, they're not perfect. We know that we're seeing the excellence overseas now. Being that, I'll just wonder what the insurance thought out is overseas the moment. We haven't got the abundance of them in Australia at the moment. Eventually when they become more built in the populated areas of Australia, especially the main cities, and they do break down and then it cause accidents. Just wonder where the insurance lies for the drivels car to make claim upon bodily injury If you're in a conventional petual diesel driven vehicle to electric vehicle, that may constitute an accident. So a lot minded specialist lawyers down the track.
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Speaker 1: Gram Yeah, looking post an interesting point. Quian Look. I don't know if the matter has been resolved even overseas, but certainly Australia seems to be cautious in many areas, and I would suggest we'll be pretty cautious when it comes to driver it as cars, the insurance, the culpability, who is responsible and who know the insurance companies will be working on it. I'm sure lawyers will have a field day ethically and otherwise, but it will be certainly an interesting situation. Thanks for cool Huy a double two three, double double, if you'd like to comment on that or anything else we've been talking about. As we now know, Corey Bernardi, former Maverick Liberal, is now a member of One Nation. He is running for the Upper House in South Australia. He had a joint press conference with Pauline Hanson a short time ago. This is what Pauline Hanson had to say.
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Speaker 15: The high debt that you have, there's no hope for the people. The cost of living, the lack of housing, mass migration, all these things have accumulated and has had an impact and still will continue to have an impact unless we put out decent, common sense policies to turn it around. I'm warning labor now you're on notice. We are coming for your seats and we are actually going to represent the people of this state to give them hope and the future generations. Hope that they can own a house, hope that they can hold on to a job, Hope that they can get that hospital bed when they need it. Nursing homes. It just goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 16: And my main thing.
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Speaker 15: Is equality for all Austrayans and especially with mass migration. If you come to this country, assimilate, become Australian and join us and be proud of what we are as a nation not divided.
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Speaker 1: And after Pauline Hanson, the one Nation new recruit, Cory Bernardi had this to today.
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Speaker 17: Pauline has been perhaps if not one of the most resilient and precient political figures of our time. For three decades, she's been advocating the same course, the right course for Australia. She's saying there is something wrong with the legacy political system, where the two party duopoly effectively is working against the people and just for themselves.
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Speaker 1: And the real measure of that is.
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Speaker 17: When you examine the problems that people are facing today, particularly here in South Australia, crime, housing, affordability, the lack of industrial progress, opportunity for families, opportunity for our farmers and our fishers. These are the sorts of things by which we measure the success of a state. And yet all the problems we face are a result of the decades of the two party duopoly which have been more entrenched about looking after their own survival than the betterment of the voters.
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Speaker 1: Who put them there.
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Speaker 17: I'm here to tell you today that that's going to change. Our commitment is to common sense policies that give a voice back to every South Australia. Pauline made a comment there has been no opposition in this state. It's as if the only competition we have between the two major parties is who's going to manage the social, economic and cultural decline slightly less.
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Speaker 1: Badly than the alternative.
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Speaker 17: We can't accept that anymore. We need common sense policies. We need a commitment to speak up for the things that matter to every South Australians, not to the party insiders were not the machine men. It's all about the people and that's what I'm absolutely committed to do.
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Speaker 1: That's the voice of Corey Bernardi announcing that he is running for One Nation. He'll be number one on the One Nation ticket for the Legislative Council. Would that change? Would you vote for one Nation based on what Corey Bernardi had to say? Do you think one Nation is the way to go? Or are you solid behind the party that you've supported all along or do you think it's time for a change, Like to know your thoughts eight double two three double double O. Back after news headlines when we look at stronger standards needing to be set for southa Stradia's retirement villages.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven minutes to eleven. Jan says, wow, gg drive it us taxis in San Francisco. Don't know if Adelaide is ready for them yet. We love the cable cars in San Francisco. Broke down once and along came a vehicle with a bar on the front, which pushed us to get us going again. Fun, if not in a hurry. Just loved our stay in San fran just like you. One of my favorite stops.
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Speaker 5: Yet.
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Speaker 1: It is an amazing city, San Francisco. Just yeah, It's probably the one place in America I could live. It is a magnificent city. Well, new retirement village laws take effect in southa Stralia from today. What will they mean for residents and operators joining us?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 1: For the Minister for Aging, Well is Nat Cook Nat? Good morning to you, Hi Graham, how are you good? Thanks sir? What is this going to mean?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, So we've been talking about this on and often. Thanks for the time that we've had talking about this before all those the review that's happened on the Retirement Villages Act and all the work that's gone into it from so many residents and people in the public are very interested in this, as well as the cooperation of the operators. We've now got to a point where from yesterday these new rules come into play. So the important thing that we are focusing on is the way that looks for people who want to live in a retirement village and need information and need clarity about what their life will look like from a not just a connected community point of view, but from a financial point of view. And then what happens once you're in the retirement village, and how you work together with the operator and other residents for harmony in your life and making sure everyone's on the same page in terms of what happens in the village and that you're given appropriate information, and then also really understanding what could happen from a financial and a personal point of view when and if you want to leave or need to leave the retirement village and go on to another phase of life.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's about the transparency of.
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Speaker 18: The information up front, the clarity of that information and how to seek help to understand it, and then also how that might look when you live in the retirement village, was receiving that information and working with the operators, and then also peace of mind so that you know what you're up for when you're leaving.
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Speaker 1: So what's the single biggest change that residents will actually notice.
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Speaker 18: I think the transparency in contracts and the disclosure statement for people who are going to live in there should provide people with better information to continue to refer back to once they live there. And then also for people who are living in retirement villages. Also there are enhance codes of conduct to come in for operators, staff and residents, and what we're doing there is providing support for operators and staff to receive education over the next year to make sure people do have a better standard and quality of operator and staff member working in and around villagers. So there's also some strengthening around emergency planning and safety standards and that's really important and should offer people peace of mind around their village. And then also for people who need disability or access modifications with their property. There's some rules in place there so that people have got a bit of support in evidence in the Act to say they're entitled to be able to access their property and may need support to get upgrades and disability modifications.
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Speaker 16: And I think the spelling.
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Speaker 18: Out in the contract Act of how much money they will need to pay on.
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Speaker 2: Exit or how much comes out of their property on exit.
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Speaker 18: And then probably two other ones quickly is that people have there is now a register that's online and live, so people can now go onto retirement villages dot my dot site, site dot com, and there is a register now being constructed, so every single retirement village has information about what it offers and some of the conditions of living in that village already listed. Every single village is on there, whether it's eight units or three hundred units, every village is on there, and operators are now being assisted to and provided the opportunity to populate those pages with information. So when you're looking somewhere to live, you can actually go online and like every other product almost in the world, you can let your fingers do the walking and get some upfront information.
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Speaker 2: Some is compulsory and some is optional.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned exit fees it's being major concerned a lot of people. Can you tell us more about how that new system will operate.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think there are a cap on some of the fees, so a cap on the amount that can be deducted from the exit entitlement towards what we call a capital fund. So sometimes that was quite the mystery and a rude shock to people who were exiting who suddenly found when they expected to get, you know, perhaps five hundred thousand, they were getting much much less than that back when they were exiting, so the money that they had to reinvest in another property, for example, was much reduced.
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Speaker 2: So that's very good.
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Speaker 18: And also there is some cap to some of the recurrent charges as well, and I cavey at all that information by saying there are some differences from one village to the other, and some already have got good rules. And the next part to it is a reduction to the maximum time for the repayment of fees. Since I've been in Parliament this has come down substantially and I'm really pleased. So now the operator must pay the money back to the person within twelve months and thirty days. So that's very important for people because only you know, six or eight years ago. It was a couple of years. So this has come down this time from eighteen months to twelve months and we're grateful to the feedback and also to the operators for helping us to do that.
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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, we have a question on the text line from deb from the Riverland. She says, I have tried five retirement villages but all have waiting lists. What can that cook say about this?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, So we have done some changes to planning laws around and the best person probably to explain all of those would be Nick Champion, who's the Minister for Planning and together with some of the key stakeholders, has really worked hard to provide some stimulus in the acts around planning to try and promote some building and development of these facilities. And what that is probably one of the keys is, like many other property investments in the aging sector, there has been a lack of investment and I think probably regionally that is even bigger than in the metropolitan area. So we've been getting around talking to retirement village operators as well, and we hope through some of the planning laws and some of the language that we're using and conversations we're having to improve that confidence to invest in this particular area of supply which is really important to people.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate what deb saying what.
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Speaker 1: The role did the Retirement Living Council have in the drawing up the new laws.
01:08:11
Speaker 18: They were consulted at every step of the way, and we've had a really productive relationship with not just the Property Counsel but also the Retirement Living people, So Daniel Gannon, Bruce Dtay, they've been involved in working with us and two way conversations and people will remember that Chris Picton, the Minister for Health and well Being, was the previous Minister for Seniors and Aging well and under his watch for the first couple of years of our government, he was involved deeply in those conversations. So they have been involved and communicated all the way, and we've pressed the case on behalf of residence because that is the important thing from my point of view, to make sure or that this whole process for people is an informed choice. As we know, people aren't buying the property, they're buying a license to occupy a property for a lifestyle choice. But it's important that that choice is you know, with eyes wide open and We've made that very clear to all of those key stakeholders and they've been really the conversations have been really good. And I think while we were doing this, not only did we want to make sure it was good for people who live in villages. We have people like deb at front of mine, because we don't need a system where people are frightened to invest because there's it's you know, the rules are so bad that it's no good for operators. So you've got to hit a balance and I think we've tried to do that.
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Speaker 1: Minister, thanks so much for your time. Good to chat. That's the Minister for Aging. Well in that cook on the strongest standards that have been said for Southastrada's retirement villages. If you have a comment, give me called eight double two to three double o double o. Steve has done just that.
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Speaker 19: Good ayah. The biggest issue I'm in a retirement village now and it's the best living that you could bost possibly do. The community is fantastic. The big issue I have is that there's this crazy notion is that when you leave, everything has to be restored back to its original condition. And so in my unit here, I'm in one of over two hundred units, I had three. There were three perfectly good serving fans. There are window coverings. They are all ripped out and thrown away. I want to put solar cells on. They tell me I can't put solar cells on because they will have to rip them off when I leave. I can't put outside coverings on my window because and I've got a west facing window that during the afternoon heats up the whole house. And I can't put a covering on because they've had too many coverings over it in the past, and they have to rip that off when I leave. And it's just ridiculous the waste and that, and the new person coming in cannot say, well, I'll take responsibility for that. I'll maintain that. But you know, they just rip everything out and it's back to the standard. They even rip everything in the garden out and put a standard garden in and it's just a massive waste.
01:11:22
Speaker 1: Understand your frustrations. To you, that does seem a ludicrous situation.
01:11:26
Speaker 19: But and this is like I'm in a major, major company that they used to advertise on your station all the time. There's thousands of residents and they're all under these conditions, and when you leave, they're ruthless. You know the number of stories I hear about people having to fight to get any sort of decent thing happening because they just want to just rip everything out. I mean I've lost you know, But I mean, once you're here and you're living here, it's fantastic because but it's the other residents because you become part of community. I'm in the Gator community. It's great, and we've got social stuff on. It's fantastic, whilstyle. It's just that if we could do if we could improve our places to our you know, pay out, we buy these things and then maintain them ourselves, that would be so good. And then there's a new resident coming in and say yes, I'll have that and that and will take responsibility for that. That would be fantastic. Yeah, that would make it excellent.
01:12:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes it makes a lot of sense. Steve, Thanks for you. Call back at the moment.
01:12:36
Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:12:39
Speaker 1: At eleven to eleven on this Tuesday morning, beautiful, beautiful day and Adelaide currently twenty seven degrees heading towards thirty two today. Well, the Deep Greek bushfire is still burning. We don't know what state it's in, so let's find out. Seven News reporter Hayden Nelson joins us Hayden, Good morning morning. How are things on the scene.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, a little bit of a wind gust has returned here to the Deep Creek bush fire this morning, so there is a concern that that could continue to whip up the conditions that we saw overnight, those gusty conditions which saw Cape Jervis be put on a shelter emergency alert last night. Not saying that will reach that again today, but because of this area and because of the topography of it, geography of it is that when you get the wind, even the slight disgusted wind gets into the valley, which, as you know around here, are pretty deep and there's a lot of them, and if there's fire in those valleys, it is like a flamethrower effect. It just stokes the fire. And you see this, You see the vegetation in there taking hold of really quickly. So they are a little pockets of fire in this huge expanse of about six hundred and fifty hectares were really concerning for cruise and you've got aerial water bombers which have returned in the past hour or so to restart their really important work of defending properties that has been What has been really highlighted this morning is that the fire came really close to the Big four holiday parking Cape Jervis, and it came really close to a number of other sort of tiny houses I guess you call them those retreats and things like that which people you don't have a holiday accommodation, a holiday lets, and people's properties as well. But it was the efforts of the CFS, the Farm Firefighters and the MFS as well. We've had strike teams in place defending those properties which have really seen at this stage no property losses on the fire ground. The latest morning is a watch in nax Warding that covers Deep Creek, Silverton, blowholl Beach Road and Cape Jervis as well. So that has been downgraded since last night, but it is still a sizeable fire over a really sizeable area. We've been speaking to a few people who have parked up at the Delaware checkpoint for the for the night. They stayed overnight here. A few others took shelter at friends places. There was holiday park as well, who were allowing people to go and stay there, which was obviously really generous given they'd probably be pretty well booked down in a holiday park, in particular opening it stores for people to sleep there. Last night, we know lots of people slept in their cars because Maine South Road continues to be blocked here this morning and may all be blocked well into today. So there are a few factors that play here, Graham, that are sort of moving parts for the CFS at the moment. And as I said, the MFS who are in there as well.
01:15:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kate Jervis is not likely to be any under threat. I mean it's not like the fire is not like in retraced steps.
01:15:56
Speaker 20: Yeah, look, I mean the winds are unpredictable. It went from a south easterly to a northeasterly. It may well go back to a southeasterly. What happened at Cape Jervis last night was a spot fire, like a large spot fire. You can just hear a water bomber going over the top of me. Now that went ahead of that larger blaze has just been burning for several days, and that was the real concern for Cruise. So that took him a few hours to get under control, because you know, it can blow an absolute gust down here and that's what it did last night to bring that under control. So look, anything is possible in a scenario like this. I think, you know, firefighters have that alert in face for all that region because they're still very much concerned about this fire. But it is a watch and act at this stage. So it is worth as people have been doing, you know, keeping an eye across media and the CFS alerts. But there are hundreds of firefighters here today. There have been reinforcements brought in from the sort of a CFES truck go passes narrow court written on the side, so from all over the state, and there are wars of bombers as I said, that have done hundreds of water drops, can continue doing that throughout the day. So at this stage, the fire remains out of control, but that doesn't mean to say, you know, it still remains unpredictable.
01:17:14
Speaker 1: Heyen Nelson, thanks so much for that report. The Deep Creek fire remains uncontrolled, but a watch an act alert at the moment. June says, why would I vote for Pauline Hanson in our state? Election. She was voted in representing people of Queensland, not southas Stratia. She has no connection with Essay, never has had. I doubt she has any interest in us in the past. How many times has she ever been here? Sorry, I will vote for a leader that lives in this state and represents us and well being. Thank you for that, June. Well, Cory Bernardi has announced that he will throw his hat into the ring running for One Nation. Would that and not just speaking to you specifically, June, but would that make anyone out there change their tune? You've heard One Nation second most popular party in Australia, But when it comes to voting for them, would you vote for them? Corey Bernardi has a long and successful career in politics behind him. A maverick Liberal, he left the Liberal Party disenchanted with him. Now he's hitched his wagon to One Nation. What do you think? Eight double two to three double o double? Would that make you want to vote for Corey Bernardi or not? Tom? What are your thoughts?
01:18:26
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I haven't been listening this morning. I just kept coming from pretending to be a gardener.
01:18:32
Speaker 1: No real, Well, you didn't to talk to us about gardening. What do you want to talk about?
01:18:38
Speaker 8: No?
01:18:38
Speaker 4: Okay, if I may just reforce what I was saying, yes about politics. I was just going to put you on the spot if I can, without saying to be a bit of a smarty pants here. You woke up tomorrow and you were the head honcho, prime minister, dictator. What I were somebody who actually said something and people had to actually agree to it. What three things would you choose to do if you had that power tomorrow?
01:19:07
Speaker 1: If I was the prime Minister of Stratia, I had the power to make decisions.
01:19:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, three things that you think would make a big difference to our country.
01:19:18
Speaker 1: You have become the spot here?
01:19:19
Speaker 4: Will I don't mind you're thinking about it? Getting back to me?
01:19:23
Speaker 1: I certainly. I think immediately of immigration, I think that needs to be cut back because we have a housing crisis. So many people are impacted by it, and that would not immediately resolve the problem, but it would certainly take the pressure off the more money to be spent on health from the federal level age care that needs to be That is a critical area because all the problems with health seem to trickle down from the fact that we have insufficient beds for the elderly, and instead of going into retirement villages and other areas, they occupying hospital bed So that would that would sort of be two. Three. I would cut back on a hell bent rush towards renewables because I philosophically I think that while there's wonderful to try and cut emissions, I don't think that I know for a fact that we're doing it at the price the cost of the average Australian power bills are going through the roof. Renewables all well and good, but they cannot sustain on their own. So there are three things. There could be more, Tom, Because you've caught me on the hoppy.
01:20:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I say, you get back to me, who want to But there's more than three things that need to be done on Oh yeah, yeah definitely. But yeah, I agree. I took completely on the first one, as you'd probably not. That's how I feel. By at least eight for about for about three to five years until we get our heads above water again.
01:20:58
Speaker 1: So what are your other other two?
01:21:00
Speaker 4: Well, just again there's more than three. I would actually, somehow or another I would cut all politicians salaries and perks by at least thirty percent, simple as that. And the third thing is I would I would reduce the councils in this country roughly one council per roughly two hundred and fifty thousand people. That's it. So I don't know how many we got here at the moment, it was just over a million people here.
01:21:29
Speaker 1: Oh, in the state. I don't think we've got close to seventy councils in the state.
01:21:33
Speaker 4: Well, let there you go, we're going to end up with about four to six. Good on your I mean, in other words, let the local government do the work they're supposed to be doing instead of palming out the councils.
01:21:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, good advice. Seeh I think there's a lot of a lot of wisdom and what you're saying. One more call before news can I mark?
01:21:51
Speaker 21: Good morning sir, How are you today?
01:21:53
Speaker 1: Good? Thanks?
01:21:54
Speaker 21: I picked it yesterday for Cory A Aredy joining one nation. Yes, great idea, fantastic.
01:22:04
Speaker 1: That will get your vote.
01:22:06
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:22:06
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's the Jeans comment. I like Peter Melanous because he's a good guy. Is the wrong party to lead this state in this country, and obviously Susan Lay and everyone there can't make a decision on who to look after. They're supposed to be looking after the Australian way of life, our way of living, our national interests, our reserves on gas and everything. Labor no good, Liberal, no good, Greens no good. They can't even fly an Ausraelian flag in their office. Let's back one Nation one hundred percent.
01:22:44
Speaker 1: Good on your mark. Thanks for input. They're your thoughts. Would Corey Bernardi change your vote? Had you thought about voting one Nation? And we're a bit hesitant. Now Corey Bernardi is running for them? Will that change?
01:22:56
Speaker 5: Let's know?
01:22:57
Speaker 1: Eight double two three back after the news five double.
01:23:01
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham.
01:23:02
Speaker 1: Goodings and a very good morning to you if you've just joined us one hour ago, still time for you to give us a call. Eight double two three double oh double o Graham. Could you please let us know what the website is that Nat Cook mentioned for checking retirement villages. Thanks Mark, yep, we can do that. It's retirement village my site. Well, I'll read it right, retirement village one word dot my dot site dot com. So retirement village one word dot my dot site dot com. Eight double two three double o double is the number if you want to have a chat. Andrew's done just that. Good day, Andrew, Jilly Graham, how well, thanks.
01:23:42
Speaker 22: As far as the Cory Bernardi one Nation thing goes, Ashton Hern is our member up here and she's awesome.
01:23:49
Speaker 8: Love.
01:23:49
Speaker 22: Yeah, she's helped me. She's helped me a couple of times. My vote would go there. But if she wasn't our member, I'd vote to One Nation in the state election for sure. I probably should if they don't know what your thoughts would be, But if they did coalitions between One Nation a Liberal party, there's almost Slavor party.
01:24:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's an interesting point of view, although it would seem that a lot of the disaffected Liberal supporters have gone to One Nation. So I don't know if we could ever see a coalition between them, but would It's an interesting concept, haven't I Ashton Hern gets Andrew's vote, but if it wasn't for Ashton Hearn, she would vote for Corey Bernardi. What are your thoughts? Has he changed your opinion thinking of one Nation? But Pauline Hansen based in Queensland and largely centered around there, but they're fielding candidates in every seat in South Australia. What are their policies. I guess that will that will mean a lot. They need to come out and declear their policies on a whole range of issues. We know One Nation's policies on some you know, red ticket items, but what about the if if you want to get into power, you've got to it's got to be on all of policy basis. You have to have policies on every aspect. It can't be just immigration and housing. So we need to know more about that. If you go to One Nation website, you will see what Paul and Hansen's views are on a whole range of things. But maybe she needs to be publicly speaking about that. SA Health spend a lot of money for overseas nurses and doctors. They use for us for their passport visa paperwork so they can come into our country. They get a job in the hospital, work for three months, and then they decide to leave the hospital. These people use our system so they can get into our country. Why is this not spoken about? Thanks for letting us know that, Kathy. Look, if somebody can give us some more detail, we'll pursue that further. But is this a regular occurrence overseas nurses? And doctors using the system to get into Australia and then they move on. Well, the IBA is meeting this afternoon to determine where to go with interest rates. It will be very interesting to see. Yesterday we spoke to Dr Susan Stone, a regular on this program. This is what her thoughts were about the meeting.
01:26:06
Speaker 23: I think people are really betting heavy that they're going to increase the rates. The economy practically full employment growth has not been bad. We've been seeing an uptick. It's not great, but it's an uptick in consumer spending. So I think really the RBA is feeling like the biggest problem or headwind that the economy is facing right now is continued inflation, and so that is their main priority. So I think that they'll probably want to act on that.
01:26:33
Speaker 1: That's doctor Susan Stone. Now, I was listening to Breakfast with David will this morning. They had economist Saul Leslik on. He thought interest rates would probably rise, but he his feeling was that they should go on hold for another month. So it will be interesting to see what the RBA finally decides. You'll hear the outcome of their decision first on five Doba this afternoon in Stacey Show.
01:26:55
Speaker 22: Maureen, good morning, Good morning Graham.
01:26:58
Speaker 16: How nice to talk to you.
01:26:59
Speaker 1: And to you.
01:27:00
Speaker 16: Thank you very much for returning my call. I was listening as I drove along and a woman was saying how there was nobody in South Australia interested in One Nation. I thought I might tell you about my interest in one nation. The secretary of the One Nation Party in the nineties and twenties with our president who's from the Lower North, we had Pauline Hansen come to South Australia many times giving speeches to people and the houses were always packed out. And this is at the beginning of her career, and she had a lot of common sense then owing to the fact that she was a single mother who had to run her own business. And there was a lot of sympathy with other women of the same type, including myself, who decided that she was an interesting woman with a lot of practical ideas. And we still do think the same way and we will be voting for her in the future as well.
01:28:09
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Maureen. Look, I think Pauline Hansen has never attracted the traction that she is at the moment. But to one thing, that can be said about her. She has remained constant. Her views in the late nineties when she first went to Canberra are the same as they are now. She has believed in a certain set of rights for Australians and she is stuck by them. While other parties vacillate and chase votes, she has not. And she was incredibly unpopular for many, many years with the bulk of Australians. All of a sudden, Australians are coming around, not to the Liberal, Labor Party or National Party's way of thinking, but to her way of thinking. It will be very interesting. I'm jen X Graham and I've seen how both parties have treated my generation. That's it. The gig is up. I'll be voting for one nation state in federal I can't wait for both elections, and there is nothing Labor or Liberal can say to change my vote. It will be interesting, as I said to Mark Riley earlier, that the Southastralian state election, which is seven weeks away, will be a litmus test for one nation. Because it's all well and good to have you know, the popularity poll saying twenty six percent second most popular party in the nation. But when it comes to people actually putting their name and putting that cross on the ballot paper for one nation or any party for that matter, they give it a lot of thought and they have to say is this the party I really want? And if it follows suit that the popularity at the moment that is reflected in the polls is reflected in fact in the South Australian state election, I would say that the government federally, I guess I don't think I'll had much impact in here in South Australia, but federally they will be looking over their shoulder, Hi Graham, I think Corey Bernardi summed it up perfectly. Voting for one nation is a change for the better for Australians, all Australians in my opinion. Thank you for that. Jason back shortly five double.
01:30:01
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings, but.
01:30:04
Speaker 1: He passed eleven and five double A on this delightful Tuesday. Vince, You've got some very strong words on the text line morning. Pointless in voting for a politician or party, because it's not the politicians who run the country. It's now run by corporations. You're all delusional if you're thinking any politician is working for you, Vince. That's a sad viewpoint if it's correct, and it certainly is. Let's hope that is not the case. I can know if you're thinking similarly, it'll be interesting if the support for one nation holds until the next federal election. A lot can change in three years, says Dan, and that is truly the case. Well, moving on, have you ever heard of Skurr. It's the Southern Koala and a kidneer rescue, South Australia's only full time wildlife, only veterany clinic and it's in need of a lot of help. Joining me in ours operations manager at Miss Simpson Mish, good morning to you, Good morning, thanks for joining us in the studio. I think everyone is sympathetic to the only one who's interested in protecting our wildlife. Tell us about Skirt.
01:31:07
Speaker 24: Yeah, So we're based in Onkaprnga Hills. We operate a twenty four hour rescue service, but we also operate a full time vac clinic, so we have a vet and vet nurse and vet students there as well, just providing care to the animals we rescue, as well as we support careers across the state with animals that are in their care, So how do you fund that? At the moment, it's all privately funded. Yeah, we've got one philanthropic foundation that's helped us build to this point, but we're very much relying on the community to help us. Yeah, keep up with the demand that's constantly growing.
01:31:43
Speaker 1: Don't get any government supporting, not at the moment.
01:31:47
Speaker 24: There is some talks that have been happening, and yeah, there is some thing coming up very soon a little bit that's going to help. But we're still heavily reliant on the community for projects and the ongoing funding.
01:32:03
Speaker 1: So tell us a typical day in the life of SKA.
01:32:07
Speaker 24: It changes from day to day. Sometimes it starts at two am in the morning, sometimes it's six am or yeah, just would you get.
01:32:16
Speaker 1: A call from someone they're animal in distress, something like that.
01:32:18
Speaker 24: Yeah, a lot of vehicle strikes and dog attacks happen overnight, so we yeah, being twenty four hours a day, we'll get someone out there to help with any animal in need. So yeah, it's never the same. And then yeah, at the moment we have heat waves and bushfires happening that yeah.
01:32:35
Speaker 1: Always going to bring that up the deep Greek bushfire that's really in your area.
01:32:40
Speaker 24: Yeah, well it's yeah, further south than us, but yeah, we're the closest wildlife fat clinic and we're watching it very closely. It's definitely going a bit out of control and there's going to be wildlife impacted.
01:32:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so no reports so far of wildlife in.
01:32:54
Speaker 24: Distress, not that we're aware of, but yet at the moment, I think the focus is on getting the fire under control, so it will be the days and weeks that follow is when the wildlife start coming out of the woodworks and needing our help.
01:33:06
Speaker 1: So what's a typical situation with I might be any typical situation. They can vary, but say a coalor is caught in a bushfire and a severely burned what do you do?
01:33:17
Speaker 24: It depends on the injuries. If they have severe burns to like all four pads on their feet and they're not going to get that black protective layer back, then sometimes the kindest option is euthanasia. There's also things like smoke inhalation that you have to be mindful of. So even if they don't have burns, being around that thick level of smoke, then it can actually turn into pneumonias and things like that, so they need proper vet assessments to make sure that you catch those things early on.
01:33:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite surprising to know that you are the only full time wildlife veterany clinic. I mean you would think in a country like Australia with so much wildlife that there would be clinics started around the state.
01:34:02
Speaker 24: Yeah, we're a bit behind the times. Other states definitely have multiple hospitals and there is the Adelais Koala and Wildlife Center on the Anzac Highway that do a great job, but unfortunately last year they downsized because of not having that funding. So yeah, that's why it's really important that we can keep getting the funding we need because the demand is definitely higher and higher for us, and the aim is eventually we'll catch up to states like Queensland that have multiple wildlife hospitals all across the state.
01:34:29
Speaker 1: I was going to say, how do we compare with other states, but it doesn't sound like it's too good.
01:34:33
Speaker 24: No, we're definitely behind the times when it comes to veterinary care for wildlife, that's for sure now.
01:34:38
Speaker 1: I mean it's an undershame, a call for help, and that's totally reasonable. I don't have any issue with that. How can people.
01:34:44
Speaker 24: Help Skir at the moment, A big project we're trying to get funding and even just practical assistance for is we need to build extra roofing over some new enclosures. We've extended our enclosures to house more kohalas and we are currently at capacity. Well we've got temporary enclosures we can set up, but all of our enclosures are full with twenty two koalas in care, So yeah, we need We're trying to raise funds and also see if we can get some builders to help us get some extra roofing over those enclosures, because then we then want to extend out our bush fire sprinklers. So we have bushfire sprinklers around our clinic and around the original enclosures, but we've expanded over the last couple of years. And yeah, we had a bush fire scare a couple of weeks ago a few hundred meters away from us. So it's a stark reminder that we need to stay operational and make sure we keep all those animals safe that need to rely on us.
01:35:39
Speaker 1: So where is your headquarters.
01:35:40
Speaker 24: In on Kaprnga Hills on Kimberley Road. So yeah, there was or rent it or my husband and I own the property. We live in a house and then basically Skir has the rest of the twenty two acres.
01:35:52
Speaker 1: So how did you get involved in the first place.
01:35:55
Speaker 24: I've always liked animals, and years ago I was working for I've worked for the government for eight years and I needed something to focus my passions on when I was dealing with a stressful thing at work and started studying animal science and then from there did some volunteering with RSPCA and faun A Rescue, and then eventually we just kind of started our own thing because we wanted to have all the animals in the one place, have veterinary care on site, and just do things a little differently, so.
01:36:23
Speaker 1: Veterinary care that's expensive to vets provide their time and services free of charge.
01:36:28
Speaker 24: Yeah, we started off with volunteer vets and then we started the workload just kept increasing and increasing, so then I was managing part time vets and then November the year before last, we actually brought on a full time vet because the workload was just getting too much. And we still do have volunteer vets. So obviously after hours and weekends we have four volunteer vets that helped fill those slots, but we're still trying to get more because even then after hours, it's just getting busier and busier.
01:36:59
Speaker 1: What did you say you run a twenty four to seven rescue service rehabilitation program, it must be all hands on. How many people would you have, you know, working on casual or full time basis?
01:37:09
Speaker 24: Well, we've got fifty volunteers, so we're very much still heavily reliant on volunteers. And then yeah, we have a full time vet and full time vet nurse and then myself and yeah, over time needing to increase that operational capacity because managing fifty volunteers and staff and a twenty for our rescue service and clinic, it definitely is starting to weighan a bit. So, yeah, we're definitely trying to get that consistent support and hoping the government will come on board and over the years see the growth that we're going and back us to keep going because yeah, at the moment we're working on year to year funding, which is a bit scary for.
01:37:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole place, Well, I'm sure that we five A listeners will say, look, you know times are tough, but I'm sure I can help in some way. What can they do?
01:38:00
Speaker 24: Yeah, obviously, donations is the biggest thing. Through our website www dot SKA dot org dot au. If there's anyone out there who can build verandas or pol goalers, please reach out because we want to start that project asap. And yeah, just save our number in your phone. If there's any hospitals that have medical equipment they're getting rid of, please keep us in mind because yeah, a lot of what we've built has been on donated equipment as well.
01:38:28
Speaker 1: Well. The five double A audience is very generous. I'm sure if they can help out, they certainly will. Miss Thanks for coming in today and keep up the great work.
01:38:35
Speaker 24: Thanks Graham.
01:38:36
Speaker 1: I've been speaking with the operations manager of skir Miss Simpson, so if you can help, I mean, you know, the only full time wildlife veterany clinic in South Australia. It needs your help and it needs your help as soon as possible. Eight double two three double double back shortly five Double.
01:38:53
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:38:56
Speaker 1: Final half hour of the show. Martin says, good morning Graham, you asked for a fix for the hospital and health system. It's about time people started to take responsibility for their own health. The system is overloaded with people with self inflicted injuries. Obesity and all its associated issues is now the biggest problem. Thank you for that, Marty Jeff says. Imagine having politicians such as Pauline, Corey and Code running our state and country unthinkable. As they are or have been self employed business owners, surely they need to have been in the public service, unions or the rotten legal profession to qualify. Ah, Jeff, that's very funny. I think I know where you're coming from. Well, yes, it's made a few ways today Corey Bernardi throwing his hat into the ring with the One Nation cause, and let's get some insight into the matter. Joining us now is nine New State reporter Gus McDonald. Guss, How are you doing, good morning, Grame. Yeah, I'm well, Thank you. How are you pretty well? Thanks? The news about Corey Bernardi came a little out of left field. Did you have any inkling that was going to happen.
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Speaker 25: Yeah, I'd heard on early radio yesterday there was talks about it, and we knew he was going to be announced. I'd spoken to some One Nation insiders yesterday afternoon. They refused to let me know whether he was running, it was going to be announced as the next Senate candidate in a couple of years, or in the ledge coat, or if he was just joining as as a potentially you know, waiting in the wings for any sort of vacancy in the Senate. Yeah, it was a pretty big announcement today as well. They did it up at montefory Hill, a lot of One Nation supporters, a lot of loud One Nation supporters and Cory Bernardi. I asked him at the press conference, I said, who came to you? Did you go to Pauline or did she come to you? He said that she had come to him, and that he described as one of the best days of his life. Really she asked him to rerun or return to public life.
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Speaker 1: It is interesting. I mean, it's obviously of significance. I mean, she has fun in a town for the announcement. It really gives One Nation a profile in Southdastolia they probably never had before.
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Speaker 25: Oh, certainly, and we have seen this before with One Nation in South Australia where they've polled well and they haven't really seen the results that they were expecting and similar to what we saw with Nick Xenaphon as well, you know polled well but then didn't see the results as a minor party.
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Speaker 2: So this profile that Corey brings to number one on the.
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Speaker 25: Ledge co Chicket will be really interesting to see how it translates and if the polling is correct, he'll definitely be in Parliament after March twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is quite remarkable and it's interesting that he's thrown his cap in the ring for a state seat rather than the federal.
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Speaker 25: Well, he spoke about that a little bit at the press conference and he said since leaving public life, he's had that small business over I think at Port Lincoln he's got a nois to farm and he's returned to the regional areas and he said there's a lot of smaller issues that he's noticed that are impacting South Australians and that's why when he.
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Speaker 2: Was given the option by Pauline and he was so quick to jump at.
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Speaker 25: It because he said there's a lot of issues that are being overlooked by the state government, especially in regional areas were his words.
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Speaker 1: What about the Libs is this sort of going to sort of dampen Ashton Hearn's sort of tilt.
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Speaker 25: Oh, it's certainly going to make their Upper House tickets squirm a little bit, especially if you're sort of sitting a third or fourth on the tickets. And then you've got to remember that One Nation have committed to running in all forty seven Lower House seats, so.
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Speaker 2: Like it'll be interesting to see where preferences go.
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Speaker 25: And how those candidates take votes away from Liberal Party members, especially in regional areas. You think about places like Flinders, you think about places like Chafey out in the Riverland in McKillip.
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Speaker 2: These are really, you know, high interest seats for the Liberals.
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Speaker 25: They need to be able to keep them and One Nation candidates probably won't make that easier depending on how preferences go.
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Speaker 1: Certainly the battle for the Upper House has become way more interesting. It's usually a sidebar side issue, but with Corey Berner, a NADI running, and a high profile candidate like Chris McDermott running, it also puts the focus on the Upper House.
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Speaker 2: Oh, certainly.
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Speaker 25: And Chris mc dermot's also going to be a fascinating one to watch because he has such a big profile here in South Australia, which is completely different to Sarah Games party which doesn't really have much profile ever since she left One Nation, So Chris completely turns that around for her. There's still a significant amount of votes you need to win to get alleged coat seat. But I'll tell you one thing, if you wanted someone with profile, Chris mc dermot's probably right up there in South Australia, who you'd want on your party ticket here?
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Speaker 1: Well, you have a question from the text line high Gramd. My question is who will One Nation's preference go to the last election They went to Labor So do you have any feeling and which way their preferences would head.
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Speaker 25: Well, it'll be interesting. I've already started asking the question to Liberals One Nation. People behind the scenes told me those conversations haven't really started yet. I assume it'll be different to what we saw federally, and I think we will see candidates go back to the Conservatives this time around. That's just a feeling I get, but I'm not too sure. It will be actually really interesting to see because those preferences, if the polling's correct, and if the amount of votes that the polls expect to coming for one nation will be so influential into the result of what happens Somas twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Well one nation polling at you know, twenty six percent, the second most popular in the nation. That doesn't necessarily reflect or translate to South Australia, but the election here in just seven weeks will be a real litmus test for one Nation one hundred percent.
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Speaker 25: And I you know, speaking to some nation background is just this morning they said that this South Australian election is the first time they think they can become the official opposition in any state or territory in the country. And they said that's so important for them because first it's South Australia, and then later on this year it's Victoria, then it's New South Wales and it's Queensland, so that they know, and then it's a federal election, so that they're eyeing up this election. It was a really important one for them to put a foot stamp on their prominence going forward, not just you know, until the next federal election, but every state election.
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Speaker 1: They're now I well, they've got a lot of wind and their sales at the moment, but if the state election was to be a dud for one nation. That would really knock the stuffing out of one nation. And Pauline Hansen, oh certainly.
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Speaker 25: And you think as well with these minor parties, if you commit to running in every seat in the lower House, that's a lot of candidates and that's a lot of opportunity to be putting up people who might not have been vested properly or might not be the right person.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: So with a lot of dare becomes a lot of fear as well.
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Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, look, a lot of interest to pay out or play out over the next a few weeks, particularly here in South Stadia. So what are your feelings regarding that? I mean, the government is pretty well, you know, locked in in southa Straateia. You know, we can't see any way, shape or form that they won't win, and probably with an increased majority. But do you think that the government is in any way concerned about the rise of one nation?
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Speaker 2: I think the state government would have to be a little bit.
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Speaker 25: And the reason I say that is because if the polling's correct and Cory Bernardi gets elected, he's going to be one loud politician here in State Parliament and He's not going to make the premier's life easy certainly, so you know, I think it's going to be tough for them, even you know, if the results are expect them to be. If Corey comes in, I'm sure he's going to rattle some cages.
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Speaker 1: We certainly live in interesting times, we do, and it.
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Speaker 25: Never seems to surprise me, especially now as South Australian politics. In the short time I've been covering it, nothing surprises me anymore.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Gus. That's Nine News State political reporter Gus McDonald on the tings and throwings of politics. We're just seven weeks out from the state election. It will be well. It was interesting anyway, but it was a one horse race. There was no question that Peter Malanaskis will be returned with an increased majority, more than likely a lame duck opposition, although Ashton hern is doing her best, but nobody gave them any hope. That probably still is the case. But now one nation has been thrown into the mix with a high profile candidate like Corey Bernardi. Pauline Hanson actually coming into South Australia to welcome Corey Bernardi and this is what he had to say about being chose by Pauline Hansen to run for One Nation.
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Speaker 2: Corey, did you approach Pauline or did she approach you?
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Speaker 17: It's fair to say that Pauline and I've had conversations over a number of years. I've supported the One Nation campaign last year, I joined One Nation last year, but ultimately the decision to return to representative politics was initiated by Pauline seeing if I was interested, and I'm delighted to say it was the happiest days of my life.
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Speaker 1: Paulaine One Nation Upper House candidate Cory Benardi, will you vote for him? Will you vote for One Nation? Like to know what you're thinking? Eight double two to three double from the text line. We were talking earlier with the Minister for Aging Well Nat Cook about the improved standards for Southastin and retirement villages. A number of people said, look, can you give us the website that Nat Cook mentioned? Well, we passed on the website information. Marg has got in touch with that website. She said, Hi, Graham, thanks for the website details and it has made me laugh. I went to the website and this is what I got. Typical government. We click on the website and it says we are sorry, we're down for maintenance. Well there you go. Well apparently you can call eight two zero four two four to two zero as well eight two zero four two four two zero eight two zero four two four to zero. So apologies for that website, but obviously it is under some level of distress at the moment. Graham, driverless taxis great idea. All they do is drive for the long way around, rip off the government and the general public. Most of them are from overseas and they don't care about this country. Send them back home. Ah ah, Look, I think I know what you're saying here, Jack Graham. The driverless taxes are a great idea regarding the current drivers. They give you a run around trip. Okay, I should have pre read it, shouldn't I eight double two to three double o double. Oh hi gg What was the name of the VET you just had on the radio talking about the animals that need help with building cages? Sorry I missed the website name. Yes that was She was not a VET that She just runs the Southern Coala and a kidnap Rescue Research unit. It's called SKURR and operations manager is Mish Simpson. And I will get the website details and pass them on. So keep listening.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: And what an entertaining morning it's been driverless cars? How do you feel about how do you feel about walking out go somewhere and there's your cars pulled up, your uber or taxi, there's no one behind the wheel. I don't know about that. Stacy Lee's on this afternoon after one. Stacy, have you been in a driverless car? How would you feel about it? No, I don't think i'd feel very looking apprehensive.
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Speaker 26: Yeah, I am apprehensive. I'm very apprehensive about a lot of the new technology that we're getting at the moment. I don't know. It makes me sound old, but I like to be in control of my car. I like someone to be in control of my car that I'm in. Even at the moment. My car has that function where I think it's lane assists it to text.
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Speaker 1: It tells you when you're drifting out of your lane.
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Speaker 26: Ye that it doesn't just tell you is the car for you? And I don't like that because I know how to drive, and leave me alone to my own car, let me use my car.
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Speaker 1: I get annoyed. With all the little buzzes and that they tell you you're too close to something, or you know your seat belt isn't belted up, and please just leave me alone.
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Speaker 26: I don't think we need computers in cars. Computers are a great tool, you know, they help us communicate with people. We can find information at the drop of a hat. I don't think we need them in the cars.
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Speaker 1: You know, cars are almost totally computers these days. They're not mechanics that look after cars these days, they're technicians.
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Speaker 26: Well, I'm going to continue this conversation a little bit this afternoon because there's been some testing done in Melbourne with AI. And you know, they test AI. They test these car computers and they try and push them to their limits. And one of these tests that was done with one AI agent tried to push it to its limit to say if I was going to shut you off, what would you do, to the point where the AI admitted it would try and kill the human for trying to shut it off. And they said it would try and do that by causing a fatal car collision.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I have heard similar research. Now, I have had similar research about a mock war. And you know how you would fight it, and so forth, and it got back to the point that it would kill the person who was trying to program it to stop the war, effectively terrifying it is. There is no question about that that AI is barely under control at the moment, and we're one step away from total I don't know what and.
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Speaker 26: We don't have laws to govern AI in Australia. I don't think I'll be talking to a tech expert this afternoon. Countries have brought in rules and regulations and limits the ways it can be used, or you know, advises people on how best to use it. We just don't seem to have that, and I'm not sure there's any appetite to implement that. So it feels like it's a bit of a free for all.
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Speaker 1: Well where do you start, because every one of us has access to AI to a greater or lesser degree, So how do you police what AOI is being used for, how it's being used, and you know whether it's for good or ill? Because I think a lot of AI is great a lot of things. It can do a lot of medical research. It can achieve in minutes what would take years of research, and that's all great for.
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Speaker 26: People who are not mobile and need AI to help them with that, people who are nonverbal and maybe need AI to communicate with people. It's great for those things, but.
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Speaker 1: When it starts to take over and decide what is best for you. When it does, it moves out of the realm of being a tool. And as a tool, it is a wonderful thing, yes, but when it decides to think, well, programming me, I don't like what you're doing, so move aside and I'm taking over, Stacy. There's a scary territory.
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Speaker 26: I know, I know, so I'll continue the scary conversation this afternoon. We also have for our State of the Arts today and the owners of Gluttony coming into the studio to tell us everything about what they'll have down there at Gluttony this year. And a little Birdie has told me for the first time ever at Fringe there's a fringe someliair Oh, really, they can help you match your wine with your show.
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Speaker 1: Hang on, we match wine with our food. Now we're matching wine with the show. That's very od I love it. How would they do that?
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Speaker 26: Is it depended on the time of day that the show is dependent on the theme the show is I think it's very cool.
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Speaker 1: Where do you start, where do you stop? Yeah, and by the end of the show you probably don't care anyway.
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Speaker 2: They match you one of every wine, please.
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Speaker 1: Thank you more of the same Encore on Core exactly.
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Speaker 26: So we'll talk about that this afternoon. State's Decision. Of course, we'll have it live on the afternoon's program and we can fill you in on any of the fallout. It's our travel segment with Phil Hoffman Travel today and the huge announcement out of Adelaide Corey Bernardi moving to the One Nation Party. Well, we've followed up with them. I'm waiting to hear whether or not Cory Bernardi or Pauline Hanson are available, so I'm hoping fingers Cross will be able to get one, if not both of them on the show this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Now, you follow politics very closely, What impact do you think Corey Bernardi will have on people thinking about voting or not voting for One Nation.
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Speaker 26: I think this is a real personality politics play, and that's worked for One Nation over the last thirty years since Pauline Hanson's been in Parliament because she's been the stable face of the party for nearly three decades now, so in the beginning maybe she wasn't so popular, but now she's been there for so long and people clearly are resonating and liking her. Corey Bernardi did have a big following he was in Parliament. However, then he went out on his own and he launched Australian Conservatives and he didn't I don't think he even got half a percent in the.
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Speaker 1: Retraction at all.
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Speaker 26: So I'm not sure that Corey Bernardi as a name and a face will bring over a whole lot of voters. I think if people were going to vote for one nation, they would have already. It could help with a few extra people, but I think if you were already voting for one nation, you probably already supported Corey Bernardi. Yeah, I don't think it'll increase the vote as much. It gives them a face and a name to vote for, you know, it's someone a little bit more recognizable.
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Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of other than Barnaby. You know, there's not a lot of people. Well Pauline stands head and shoulders above the rest of Yeah, but there are no other names within the party. So Corey Bernardi and when you hear him speak, he speaks well, he's eloquent, he knows his subject, he's passionate. It might be enough to make people go well, I might give them another look. Yeah, yeah, interesting times.
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Speaker 26: It is very interesting times.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully you get one or the other one, maybe both, I hope so.
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Speaker 26: And then of course it's Turkey Tuesday as well, so nominating turkeys this afternoon for some turkey, flat vineyards, wine.
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Speaker 1: Gee, where do you start? Say thank you? Stacey Lee coming up this afternoon after one o'clock. Yeah, hopefully she Corral's Cory or Corral's Pauline Hanson. That would be rather good. Well, tomorrow on the show, we'll have AMP Chief economist Shane Oliver on to discuss the RBA's decision this afternoon, and the Services Australia General Manager Hank young And is going to be taking your calls, So get ready with your calls for Hank Young And I know it's a very popular segment and we love having Hank young And on with Services Australia issues because he is a very kind and compassionate man. He knows who subject, he knows his brief and we always get a flood of calls, so be prepared for that. On eight double two three double o double oh is the number to ring from the text line. Way more rivalers. Taxis are a big hit. Why shouldn't they be here in Australia? Hi gg the failed hydrogen scheme, the wireles, steel works debarkle. Someone needs to ask what it costs taxpayers. Also hospital ramping. This Maley government is failing to give detail on Thank you for that, Brian. Well, we will be putting all those sorts of questions to the Premier and all being well, we will get him on the show. In fact, I'm sure he will come on the show as we get closer to the election. Hi the Campbelltown Council truck just went by with honesty, honestly a couple of small branches in the back. Yet the big bows from around the end of December is still around and they want to get more funding and charge commuters for a hall and a new office for themselves. When no service is ever given a waste of money and has been told it will be hired to certain individuals privately for private get togethers, not occasions, just to make money for themselves. Ridiculous. Thank you for that. Gg. I like Melanascus. I think he's done a reasonable job running the state. I've even come to like Tom Kitson Turtus, but I'm not. But I'm going to vote for One Nation in the upcoming election to send a message to the government, both state and federal, to show them they might need to listen to us as standards that we are not happy with the direction we're heading now. Peter, that is interesting. That is effectively a protest voter, and that often happens when you get a government and incumbent government is doing pretty well and looking like they'll be unchallenged. You get people swinging voters and they say, look, we're going to put a rocket under them. We're going to let them know that, you know, we want them to do better. So will One Nation get protest voters from southas strata? I'd like to know your thoughts, Steve. Good morning, Graham. How are you good things, buddy?
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Speaker 19: I'll make it quick.
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Speaker 27: I want to raise a subject which I've been dwelling over for some time. I own a fairly large business. Sometime back there was a grace you and cry nationally about the government suggesting they we're going to tax realized assets in our superfunds. But what I've got to what I've got to tell you is that the Melanoskis government is already taxing unrealized assets, so the value of general values property and from their land tax is set. So my company's property value went up twenty percent. That twenty percent generated a thirty seven percent increase in land tax, which amounted to over one thousand dollars a week for my business. And what I've got to say is that that property is still the same property. We still work from it. It doesn't earn us any extra money. It's just the place we work from. And if Melanoskus thinks that businesses can suffer those sort of increases annually thirty seven percent, we went from under one hundred thousand to one hundred and forty odd thousand dollars, and it's an impost on business. And you know, one really hurts when we hear Peter saying that South Australia was judged as the best state to do business in.
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Speaker 8: Well, I've got news.
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Speaker 27: It's not easy. It's hard, and if we're going to keep having annual reviews like that, it's going to get.
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Speaker 8: Harder and harder.
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Speaker 1: Steve. Thanks for your input. Let's hope the government is listening. Well, that's it for today, folks. Thanks so much for your company. We'll be back tomorrow and do it again.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday, this third day of February. Thanks for tuning in. We've got lots to talk about today. Hopefully hear from you on your views on what's happening around the world. Eight double two to three double double oh is the number to ring before we get down to matters. Something I want to put before you personality politics. Do you vote for the person or do you vote for the party. Decades ago, people were more rustled on as they voted largely for the party labor, working class, trade unions, public sector workers, lower to middle income owners, the Liberal Party, business owners, professionals, higher income owners, self employed. Then there were rural interests via their coalition partner, the Nationals. Although there were larger than life personalities like Sir Robert Menzies and Bob Hawk, Australians largely voted on what the parties had to offer. Over the decades, the lines have become blurred. Coalition and labor policies have merged. Gut Field politics has become more research and poll led. The Labour Party has become the part of the trendy left. The disregard for upsetting voters for the good of the country has been replaced by let's upset as few people as possible. The aim apparently not to improve the lot of Australians, but to guarantee a win at the next election. Bob Hawk once said, when toppled by Paul Keating, I think I would have been better place to win the next election. What most of us would have preferred him to say was I think as Prime Minister I would have been better placed to run the country. In more recent times, Australia has followed the US presidential style, promoting the leader ahead of the policy. And how well has that gone? In South Australia. We have the consummate personality politician in Peter Malanaskis policy society is charismatic, decisive, a born leader. The Liberal Party well Ashton Hern has had too little time in the job to form solid opinions, but the recent history of Liberal leadership suggests a long time and opposition. In the past week, two high profile names have thrown their hats in the ring, former Crow's Captain Chris McDermott, who's running for a legislative council position for the Sarah Game Fair Go Party. Reaction to his nomination has been so positive that he's taken the number one position on the ticket. Then yesterday Cory Bernardi, former high profile politician who abandoned the Liberal Party, signed on with Pauline Hanson's One Nation and will head the One Nation ticket. One Nation has gained huge traction in Australia, with many dissillusion Coalition supporters jumping ship and even a number of labor supporters turning to Pauline Hansen. Now two questions, do personalities mean more than party policies when you're considering your vote? And with Corey Bernardi having thrown his cap into the ring, does that make you take One Nation more seriously? I'd like to know your thoughts eight double two to three double oh is the numbered ring? Like to know what you're thinking about that? Steve on the text line says the Treasurer recently said the essay economy is performing very well with surpluses predicted in the budget. Can you confirm if the forward estimates still shows we are heading for a fifty billion dollar deficit or has it been revised? Good question, Steve, I don't know. I know it was at high forty seven billion, the deficit heading towards fifty billion. I don't know, but we'll do our best to find out if someone can put us in the picture. Like to hear from you on the show today. Well, is it another nail in the coffin for the Liberal Party? Former federal Liberal Cory Bernardi joining the One Nation will contest the state election. We will find out more about that. The future of the Coaldition remains unclear. Despite Susan Lee and David Littleproud taking the first steps towards a potential reunification of the parties. They had a crucial meeting last night. We'll find out the full outcome and the impact of that with Seven News political reporter Mark Riley. Shortly. Now you call for a taxi or order an uber. When you go to climb in the vehicle, you notice theres no one behind the wheel. Autonomous cars are coming to Australia, like it or not. We'll find out how far away they are, the likelihood of it, and I'd like to know your thoughts on getting into a car without a driver. At least you wouldn't have to make small talk with them, would you. That wouldn't happen. But what are your thoughts about that? We'll have the latest on the Deep Creek fire. Conditions were downgraded overnight, although the fire is still burning out of control and is burning on a pretty large front. We'll find out the latest on that. Southern Koala and a Kidner Rescue needs your help. What can you do to keep this vital service going? We'll find out about that. And speaking of animals, it's Groundhog Day in America, when the state of Pennsylvania learns if winter will go on for another six weeks, made famous by the Groundhog Movie with Bill Murray. Do you like that movie? I must say I love that movie. It's one of my favorites. But it's all based around punks Attorney Phil Well. We've crossed to Growler's Nobbert Punks Attorney to find out Phil's weather prediction.
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Speaker 2: It's goods.
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Speaker 3: We look to the future and not just the past, so I suppose this party could use a forecast. It is my job this February two to look to the skies and report back to you that there is a shadow here on my ground.
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Speaker 4: Six more weeks of Winter.
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Speaker 1: About well with a mixed reaction Punks Attorney Phil Six More Weeks of Winter, Punks Attorney Phil forecast. Do you like the Bill Murray movie Groundhog Day. I must say I love it, and speaking of a groundhog day, that you look at our weather for the next few days. Today forecast thirty two degrees, Wednesday thirty two degrees, top, Thursday thirty two degrees, top, Friday thirty two degrees. I got you, your babe, and Saturday it drops back to thirty one. But there you go. We're go having a fine spell of weather. Although we always really need to think about you know, a farmer's thinking this is fine, whether they haven't seen any rain for two months now, when was the last time we had rain? We could certainly do with some forty four days ago. Good on your sam My producer Sam co host of the early morning breakfast show on five Double A with Ned McHenry. By the way, south of Strada's debt approaching fifty billion dollars, deficit is in surplus. Interesting, isn't it when you put it that way so you can make it sound good. You know, oh, look that we're going to balance the budget this year, but we owe close to fifty billion dollars. That's a lot of money per man, woman and child in the state, isn't it. Eight double two three double o, double o and what's in a name? Some interesting statistics on giving a child a bizarre name or different name or different spelling could have long term effects. I want to know from you. Have you given your child an unusual name? Do you have an unusual name? What is it? If you'd like to share it with us, I'd like to hear eight double two three double o double is the number? Back? Shortly five double A?
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Speaker 5: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Ninety minutes past nine five double A on a Tuesday morning, Judith says, Hi, Graham, love your show. If AI is driving, who loads my groceries? Does this mean I shop online and skip the trip? Now there's a question. There is a question. Speaking of shopping online. I was trying to drive into West Lakes Shopping Center near the Woolworths entrance the other day and I couldn't get in there. There was a lineup of cars doing the you know, the people have done their shopping online and then they had to queue up and you couldn't literally drive in to the parking space or in the parking area because of the lineup of cars. So I know people do this shopping online. It's terrific. And it saves time. But then you spend ten minutes queued up in a line to pick up your groceries. Maybe this was an unusual occurrence. I don't know. But do you have you changed the shopping online? That's one thing I noticed at the supermarket these days almost as many people and people shopping pushing their trolleys. Do you have staff from will Worts or Calls or whoever doing the shopping for other people? Must say that all dry goods in that it seems to be all right, But I don't know about shopping for fruit and veg getting other people to make a choice for you. Eight double two three doublelow doubleow, Steve says GGI. I don't want to bore your listeners, but find it interesting that AI states revenue upgrades. State taxation is revised up by seven hundred and ninety six million dollars over the period twenty twenty five twenty six to twenty seven twenty eight. Now wonder surplus is predicted in the short term. Thank you for that, Steve. The Dry Creek bushfire burning overnight, we'll find out the latest situation on it now. The CFS State Deputy Commander is Ray Jackson, he joins us. Now, Ray, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: What's the state of Dry Creek at the moment.
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Speaker 6: So the Fororide Creeks continue to burn. Our volunteers and some of our partner agencies last night worked really hard to try to contain this fire, but obviously in those difficult areas, it was not able to be contained overnight. So there is still active fire down there. So we have got a watch and act message prepared to leave for the Deep Creek fire still out.
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Speaker 1: So it's been downgraded from emergency, is.
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Speaker 6: There right, Yeah, that's correct. So overnight those fire behaviors dropped out of it as we normally expect, but we still want people to remain vigilant and aware because there is still fire burning in that landscape.
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Speaker 1: Are there any properties or many properties in the area.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a number of properties and certainly of a concern yesterday when we issued the emergency warning message, was some very strong concerns for Kate Jarvis. But fortunately crews were able to get around there and protect the town. And we still do have people in that area just to ensure that if it does get up and towards the town again this afternoon when the winds come up, but we've got resources in place to protect the town and outlying properties.
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Speaker 1: Do you know the size of the fire, how much is it burnt out?
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Speaker 6: So this stage it's approximately twelve hundred hectares, so it's a reasonable size file a lot of fire edd so that that's why you know, it's quite challenging to book control lines around as fire of that size in that type of corone, how.
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Speaker 1: Many people have you got fighting ways?
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Speaker 6: So at the moment we've got around about two hundred and fifty CFS, MSS and DW people down there. Firefighters are working in those challenging conditions and we're also being supported by the SEES base camp and some other logistical functions.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to a fire of this kind, you are you lacking for any resources or do you have enough to be able to manage it at this stage?
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Speaker 6: So at this stage we've got enough to management. We continually reassess that as we go along, so we try to do as much forward planning is possible because it's not just the firefighters on the ground, it's our incident management and our support personnel to that. So at the moment We've got adequate resources to manage this fire.
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Speaker 1: We're heading for top of thirty two degrees today, not good firefighting weather. But what have you heard from the bureau regarding is it any winds likely to play a part?
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Speaker 6: We are expecting some wind changes during the day, so over the day it will go from the north to the east southeast. So we've factored that into our plannings for the day. And we do know that down there there's challenges with the gully wins, which is some of the issues we had with the fire yesterday in that they pushed the fire in a number of different directions.
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Speaker 1: And what about smoke. Is smoke making much of an impact So at this.
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Speaker 6: Stage not as huge an impact as it was yesterday, But I anticipate during the day that that will pick up and cause some challenges as the wind swings around to the east southeast. Then obviously that will put back across the Cape Jervis area. But yeah, we'll continue them on to that during the day.
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Speaker 1: It probably not likely to impact the metropolitan area, not at this stage.
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Speaker 6: No, not with the wind direction we're expecting today.
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Speaker 1: Ray Jackson, thanks for your time today. We'll keep in touch.
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Speaker 6: No problem.
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Speaker 1: Thank you going CFS State Deputy Commander with the Deep Creek fire at the moment not under control, but certainly it's in the watch and Act state. But it's burnt out quite a large area. There are some properties in the area, and we'll keep you informed as the day progresses. David Paparella is a Cape Jervis resident who's in the vicinity of the firing joint is now David, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning Graham to you and your listeners.
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Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about the fire? Did it come close to you?
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Speaker 7: Yes, it did. It got to about one and a half kilometers maybe less to the eastern boundary of the town overnight to the surface did an amazing job in terms of stopping it progressing any further to the town. There was a lot of activity in the town and also around the town from the fire cruise to protect the town and the assets therein. They did an amazing job. And yeah, it came very very close last night for sure.
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Speaker 1: Was there any suggestion you'd need to evacuate.
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Speaker 7: We got to the stage where we were the warning from the CFS was prepared to leave. Most of the people who were still in the town at that point in time would have gone down to the boat ramp. That's the emergency reporting or refuge place, which is down by the lighthouse. There were a number of people down there last night with boats should they have been needed, and pretty much Southwold was probably going to be a no go area to actually get out last night due to the fire where it was burning and a number of people that were up there working to stop it going any further.
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Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't have got much sleep overnight because you just don't know what the fire is going to do.
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Speaker 7: That is correct, Graham. It's quite an eerie thing because there's so much activity going on around the town, and yet the town itself is just so quiet, and you know, a lot of the work that has been done around the town has been able to keep us safe. And looking at it right now, where the fire has burned last night, we're in the middle of summer and there's a white, misty smoke rising from the sides of the hills, which reminds you of winter. So we're certainly in a very fortunate position to still have our properties and places with us.
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Speaker 1: Could you see the glow of the fire overnight?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you couldn't You certainly couldn't mistake it. And certainly the inaccessible terrain where the fire was burning close to the closer to the town was making things very difficult for the fire cruise from what I could see, you know, they positioned themselves as best they could, given not only the gullies and the steep falls into them, but the trees and things like that that are all around on the side of the hills up there.
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Speaker 1: So what do you rely on regarding warnings from the CFS, you know, how do you keep in touch with them?
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Speaker 7: Sorry, pardon me. We have a We monitor their website on our phones and thankfully, through this particular incident, so far we have not lost power and we've not lost the telecommunications, so we've been very fortunate. And on top of that, we have been going down to the local CFS shed to check with people there as to where things are at.
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Speaker 1: David, thanks for sharing the story with us. Stay safe and we wish everyone in the Cape Jervis area well. Regarding the Deep Creek fire.
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Speaker 7: Thank you so much. Com I really appreciate.
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Speaker 1: It, Paterella Cape Jervis residents. Yeah, I don't know how I'd sleep at night. Knowing that there is a bushfire within one and a half kilometers, would you sleep at all? No, you wouldn't, would you'd stay away? Bushfires are horrendous things, and as a reporter on the road covering a couple of bushfires, you could be three kilometers away and you can still feel the intensity in the heat and they can change direction in such a short time. From the text line I mentioned before about shopping at West Lakes having trouble getting in because all of the cars kulling up to get their groceries that they bought online, and Julie has had a similar problem. High Graham, There's nothing more annoying than trying to get past the number of extra wide trolleys being filled by supermarket staff filling online shopping orders. Some staff seem to be completely indifferent to the customers or there in person trying to do their shopping around them. I understand it's a first world problem, but it's super annoying. Nevertheless, Duly, yeah, that's the problem inside the store. And then Andrew has said we have also had trouble with the western entrance to Westfield at West Lakes, not just being held up once in the car park, but Rednor Drive being blocked with cars banked up waiting to turn into that entrance. It's a gridlock from cars lined up for Wolworths click and collect. It's an ongoing mess. It needs to be fixed. I'm wondering. And maybe they do this. They surely have thought of this, the major supermarkets that have these click and collect services, whether they do the click and collect or they do the gathering of groceries from a bulk warehouse. Why does it need to be a retail outlet because you have these big trolleys going up and down the aisles, and as Julie said, it is you know, she said, it's a first world problem. You know how lucky we are to be able to do our shopping so freely and able. But it does cause problems with these extra wide trolleys. So I wonder why the supermarkets don't just have a bulk supermarket somewhere that fulfills all these online orders. We might find out about that. Maybe someone knows the answer. If you do, I'd like to hear it from you. Eight double two to three double o doublo is the number to ring. Well, what's happening? Susan Lee and David Lidlproud had an urgent meeting last night trying to get the coalition back together. How did it go? We'll speak with seven News political editor Mark Riley shortly.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten. I mentioned earlier that we're not that far away from having driverless cars, autonomous cars, taxis ubers on the road. How would you feel about that car pulls up, you go to climb in and there's no one behind the wheel. How would you feel about that? We'll find out more about it, and says Sir Hi Graham. If the car is driving itself and I'm sitting in the back intoxicated, will I get done for drink driving? A great day? Also online high gig, the failed hydrogen scheme, the wireless steel works debarcle. Someone needs to ask what it costs taxpayers. Also hospital ramping. This Maley government is fanning to give details. Brian Okay, Brian, Yeah, Look, I certainly hope. I expect to have the Premier in the studio at some stage or have him online at least between now and the election. Exactly those questions. We'll ask about the hydrogen scheme, the wireless steel works where it's at at the moment, and hospital ramping what cost to taxpayers? So yes, those questions are on notice and thanks for putting them to us. Well, the focus is every day on Canberra. Susan Lee and David Littelproud held face to face talks last night about reuniting the parties, getting the coalition back together. Hawd to go. Mark Riley is the seven News political editor, joins us now Mark, good morning to you, good one, gra So were the talks fruitful?
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Speaker 8: Well, there were seeds of fruit by the sound of it, the beginning of a process of reconciliation again for the two leaders the former coalition parties. Both of them said it was productive, was held in good spirit and they discussed the one real deal breaker and there was no resolution to that. That deal breaker is the reason for those three National frontbenches voting against the government's Increased Hate Clime Bill a couple of weeks ago, and in doing so breaching shadow cabinet solidarity. Susan Lee is standing on her principles and then as the principle of every leader, that shadow cabinet solidarity must be respected in all circumstances. And the National Party is in thing that the three senators front bench senators be reinstated and forgiven for their transgen transgression. And there's no middle ground being found in that as yet, Graham. But some of the people around the edges of this, there's a lot of shirpers. I guess you'd call them discussions off peace. While the leaders are in their own to the tet and among those strategists they're talking about all sorts of possible middle ground compromises, and one of those would be some time there would be the three senators would serve out of shadow cabinet in Coventry and then before returning as a punishment of some description, but no resolution on that. A process has begun, no fruit a cup of sea.
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Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that Susan Lee has the support of the bulk of the Liberal Party and not reinstating those senators.
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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, I think that both her own moderate faction and the conservative faction would agree on. That is an inviolable principle and one that Liberal leaders going back to Howard and before, have always enforced and enforced very strongly, because you know, he's imposed discipline on the parties. The Liberal Party, of course, has a tradition, unlike Labor where back bench members can speak out and they can vote against the official party position on any given policy if they feel so inclined, so driven to do that. And so he's fairly common to see Liberal Party members and indeed National Party members of the back bench crossing the floor, but never on the front bench because that scene has going against the will of the leader.
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Speaker 1: The talks between David Little Proud and Susan Lee and he took place after the National Party spill on leadership. Obviously David Little Proud was reinstated as leader. Was he really under any challenge, No.
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Speaker 8: He wasn't under a real challenge, at least not from Colin Boyce, who was the challenger yesterday. But I think this is a shot across his bows. Graham. You know, Colin Voice was a straw man candidate, you like in the in the I guess, in the in the context of the National Party, a bit of a scarecrow in the field for the David Little prowd. He called on a spill and in doing so that would allow any other candidate, probably a more acceptable candidate to the broader National Party to reveal themselves if they were so inclined, that didn't happen. So there was a ballot which means he got a seconder, but David Liverpowd won that handsomely. What it did do, though, which is productive, people are Colin boys and the majority of the National Party who were who were very concerned about the way things are progressing with the Libs. It brought on another secondary motion from Darren Chest, the Victorian Gippsland Nationals MP, and that was directing both David Little Proud and the Liberal letter in that National Party room can't do that, but they do things they can't do, directing both of them to had that meeting they had last night and to move constructively towards reuniting the coalition. So what it did was it said that David Little Proud, listen, people in the party aren't happy with the way things are going. They're so unhappy that now you've got someone on the outer reaches of your very small backbench raising a challenge against you, not a serious one, but a bad look and in doing that, we're telling you now by resolution to party room, go and fix this.
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Speaker 1: So the spotlight was on National Party leadership. What about Susan Lees leadership. Things gone quiet for a day, or say.
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Speaker 8: Well they should today, shouldn't they? I mean, really, we've got the RBA decision to staff with expectations in the markets that is probable, certainly possible. Now I think it's about sixty forty that there will be an interest rate rise today and if not today, next month, and that is bad used for the government told us the worst of the inflation problem was behind us, and inflation is going up. And if the Preserve Bank responds with its one lever that is increasing interest rates, that starts the hurt people. Costs an extra several hundred dollars a month on mortgages. So there's no time to start fighting among yourselves when you've got a big fight for the people who elected you and put you in Camper to represent. And remember then a lot of a lot of these politicians them too, But they're the ones who are important in all this. Not yourself, not your own ego, not your ambition, not how you look to your colleagues, how people are feeling in their own lived experience, battling each day to pay their mortgages, put their kids to school, run a car, and do all those things that we do, and they their representatives to be switched on to v needs, not their own personally, So.
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Speaker 1: Not a lot to ask, would thought. That's not a lot to ask. That's what we pay them for.
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Speaker 8: Reasonably self evident, you know, Graham, I would imagine. But you know that's a lesson in all this, I think, mate. But if you know, if these politicians they just have to face reality if you act like a self obsessed bunch of unelectable numb skulls. But thoters will believe it. They will say, yep, that's what you are, and they'll say, we'll vote for One Nation or somebody else. I'll give you a little bit of updated on One Nation to Cory Bernardi, Paul and Hansen has announced this morning we'll be standing in the Upper House in South Australian elections. It's her candidates, so that seems to be confirmed now for one Nation. So and with twenty six percent support Graham for One Nation nationally, it won't be that at the next election. It might be, but he's a big protest at the moment and people looking for a third way, mostly off the con service side of politics. But also we shouldn't underrate this also from the Labour side of politics, we're disillusioned. We both were the major parties looking for something else. You know that there is a historical high that the Democrats who came from South Australia, they never rose to that level at thirteen I think at the peak, and the Dorp never rose to those sorts of levels. And the Green's got to dream of twenty six percent. That is the largest third party vote ever in Australian history. So this is a real problem for all the major Well.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, mark, The South of Stralian election is only seven weeks away. This will be a real litmus test for one nation. And if that those figures, the popularity figures, translate into actually seats on benches, absolutely, it will be fascinating.
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Speaker 8: Graham. I'm looking forward to it immensely. I think it'll be. It will be a little test, you are right, and it will tell us just how angry people are in real Australia with what's going on now. They're are obvious differences between a competent government in South Australia under Peter Malanaskus is one of the better premieres suspected to make that judgment. Sure without bias, but that doesn't seem to matter because when people get angry they take it out on the first person. It looks like a politician in stance for them. That just happens to email an oscars. So we got to watch out.
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting. Let's get back to Canada then, with the coalition not the coalition anymore. How does that work when it comes to parliament? The Nationals move for the cross bench?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well the Nationals, well, effectively they do because they are really a cross bench presence. Now there's only fourteen of them in a House of Reps and four senators eighteen party party rem all up. So they will physically sit in the backs rows of the opposition benches, separated by a row of empty seats which will be quite stark between the Limberals and the Nationals, and then they'll bend across to the cross bench. The cross bench will now contain twenty eight members including the Nationals, so fourteen Nationals and fourteen others, and the Liberal Party has twenty eight members, so fifty fifty split between what is now regarded as the only opposition party, the Liberals and the cross Bench. At twenty eight and up to the government then to decide how the ten usually ten, sometimes eleven questions from that side of the house are divided. Will the Liberal Party get five and the cross Bench and that's another five and will it go one one? Which really breaks the tempo, the rhythm of the traditional question time and stifles the ability of an opposition to build momentum on any particular issue.
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Speaker 1: It certainly takes the pressure of the important.
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Speaker 8: Time for them. Yeah, the government well takes the pressure off the government. And this is none too fine a point either, grain for all of this that it's not good for our democracy made it really isn't on it. You know, it doesn't matter who the government is and who the opposition is. The Australian people deserves an opposition in the in the parliament to shine a like light on those shady places of government where you know the nasties reside and you need an effective opposition to keep the government honest. And we won't have that at the month.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the feed to have. We get back on this program all the time that you know, whichever way people vote, they just want a strong opposition to keep the has done to say to keep the barstards honest.
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Speaker 8: The bastard's honest, you know. And it's really interesting to hear now that Pauline Hans and I've heard this one of her stump speeches the other day and a lot of not to be too unkind to Pauline, not the greatest rhetorical aures, but she tends to hurl a lot of very active now and the crowd and they sort of pick up pizza and pieces.
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Speaker 9: Here and there.
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Speaker 8: But she had a very nice line the other day where she said, you know, don Chip famous said, I want to keep the bastards honest. Well, I want to get rid of the bustards. And there was a row of excitement from the crowd in Queensland. You know, you can almost see the pitchforks and the fiery sticks being waved in there. You know, there is anger and it's now coalisting around one nation, a grievance fights, and I think it's going to be fascinating timent politics at the next several months.
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Speaker 1: We'll watch on with interest. Mark Riley, thanks so much for're insight. Appreciate it, great pleasure, all of it. Seven News political editor Mark Riley on the Two Wings and throwings in Canberra. If you have a thought on that a double two three double o double o. Steve says Susan Lee should show some real leadership and reinstate the three nationals. The ultimate goal is to make this inept government accountable and to show unity. I have lost patience and will vote one nation. Your thoughts love to hear them. Eight double two three double o double oh is my number five double.
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Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's eleven to ten five double A. Take some calls in a moment. You can get through right now. Eight double two three double o double oh. Let's look at the stock market. All odds is having a strong startup by eighty five points, ASX two hundred is also starting strong, up by eighty seven points. US stocks rows following sharp swings that shook forinancial markets, including tumbles for Asian stocks and then gains in Europe. The Dow Jones was strong at the close, up by five hundred and fifteen points. Nasdaq was up at the clothes too, by one hundred and thirty points. Oil down by almost three dollars to sixty two US dollars a barrel. Will that be reflected the bowser. The Aussie dollar is buying sixty nine US cents. If there any dramatic changes on the market during the morning, will certainly bring them to you. Nick. Good morning, morning, Grail.
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Speaker 9: I want you to listen to this very careful and you listeners as well. Yesterday afternoon at five o'clock, friend of Mike call me say, Nick, can you tug you my dad to leaders medical because I'm in the Stide on business trip. So I took him down five pm yesterday his again, his doctor, his GP contact the horse.
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Speaker 2: We do.
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Speaker 9: I want to tug you Tema Rai because he's been slipping for many hours to finish this morning five o'clock. Graham awarey of fifty people there, and I felt sorry for them. What stopped someone to come and ask the public if I want a biscuit or vegemied sum. If I were, if a dog was there, I would have given something to eat. Graham.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess they would say they don't have the staff to do things like that, but they're overstretched and overstressed already, and.
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Speaker 9: Still the doctor hasn't seen that man, Graham, unbelievable. I was looking those people's vices and I said, oh my god, I couldn't leave the price in case I called them to god, get something to it. But where can I go two o'clock in the morning to get something to eat? Gryam As Health System Malanascas and the health minister shine, shine, shine, I never experienced anything like in my life.
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Speaker 1: Well, and yet let's stay governments around billions at health. You don't think they're throwing it in the right direction.
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Speaker 9: No, definitely not.
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Speaker 8: Gam.
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Speaker 9: You should have been there last night, Mite, I could not believe it.
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Speaker 1: So this is.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the people medical emergency, the people will pay forty wanted to see the doctor. They got more Sikh whiting. My friend said to me Nick midnight, can you tug me from place? I said, no, Mike, we spent so many yars now here. We've got a white for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, look, I wish I give you some sort of answer, Nick, but it's a story that is replicated all over our emergency departments around the state. And unfortunately you have experienced at firsthand. But anyone of those experienced time in emergency realizes that they're not enough staff, they enough beds. Yeah, what is the answer. If you have an answer, I'd like to know it? Eight double two three, double oh, double oh is the number to ring from the text line. Jodi says, hi, Gg, you say bolt, who I call insane?
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Speaker 5: Bolt?
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Speaker 1: As a child called thunderbolt. Thank you for that, Jadie, that came out of insane name or unusual names that you called your children. You might think it's cute and different and so forth, but you've got to remember they're going to grow up to be adults and have to live with those names. So what name did you end up with? Did you your parents give you an insane, unusual, bizarre name and different spelling. How have you handled it? Or have you done that with your children? Said? You give them this name, it'll make them distinctive and stand out. I'd like to know Ronza's labor has one government on the backs of the green second preferences now liberal and one nation can do the same.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's as easy to that, ron but we shall see. Regarding click and collect and deliveries of groceries, Andrew says, I get online delivery a few times a week with next day deliveries Coals and Wolworth's picked the items from a dispatch center and put on a run delivered by light truck, but for same day pickups and deliveries, they'll pick the items from the store nearest the customer, where you have the option either to pick the items up yourself with the click and collect service, or spend fifteen dollars on the rapid service and have them delivered by car in less than an hour. More and more people are using that service, There's no question about that. Hi Gg Pasadene of food Landers move the disability parking to make way for click and Collect. Instead of being next to the lifts and store entrance in the underground car park, disabled people now have to negotiate the cars and have further to walk. It seems that people who are too lazy to do their own shopping take precedents over the disabled. Thank you for sharing that story with us, Jill. Eight double two three double o double o is the number if you have a comment on Click and Collect. Do you do your shopping more shopping online than you did before? Higg, I'd rather every car be driverless, but have to be better than the drivers we get at the moment behind the wheel. Yeah, eight double two three double double O. This comes about with Waymo who are moving into Australia at some stage and there will be driverless taxis, driverless ubers. How do you feel about it? And Jeff Tay Jeff has sent in a picture obviously in San Francisco. Recently Weimo. He sent two pictures of Weimo driverless taxis in San Francisco. So it is a reality. He says, it's brilliant. So there you go, folks, would you happily accept I mean, if you've got to get from A to B and you go out and there's no one driving the car, what are you gonna do? No, I'll wait till a driver. Thanks. We were talking to Mark Riley a short time ago regarding the power struggle and I think it's fair to say that the coalition or non coalition Susan Lee and David Littelproud had a meeting last night. It didn't resolve the coalition situation, but they were both asked about the meeting last night. This is what Susan Lee told Sky News.
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Speaker 10: The Nationals have chosen to leave the coalition at this point, the door is open. I've maintained that the doors days open, but I am not focused on the door. I am focused straight ahead out here into the Australian communities that we love, respect and are determined to work hard every single day for.
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Speaker 1: And this is what National Party David Little Prand said after the meeting.
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Speaker 11: Forgiven for we will obviously work constructively and they'll be ongoing and that's the way the National Party operates. My room will make a determination as we did a couple of weeks ago. There's no unilateral decisions. And while the gallery thinks so I made these decision unilateral, work as a team and we get this right and we work through this in a considered way. But we couldn't stand by and be sacked for voting against hate speech laws that we don't take away the freedom of speech of Australians.
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Speaker 1: That was David Little Proud speaking last night and the reason for the meeting. The breakup of the collision came after what David Little Proud had to say just over a week ago.
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Speaker 11: She will not, and from subsecut conversations, will not reinstate those three senators to the show our cabinet positions. Therefore the entire ministry resign. But she has also forced the coalition into an untenable position that can no longer continue.
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Speaker 1: So that was the situation a week ago. It seems they've moved a little closer together, but the situation is still unresolved. In the meantime, we have an impotent opposition. The government can come and go do as they please effectively. And I don't think anyone, even if you are an absolutely adamant pro labor supporter, you want to see a weak opposition when those people at gloat and say, ah, we like to see liberals destroying themselves. We like to see the nationals destroying themselves. Do you really want that? Surely not. I mean, we do not really want a situation where the opposition has absolutely no impact. Let's take a call Bob, good morning, how are you.
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Speaker 12: I am just been to San Francisco and we had four trips in the driver's car. Absolutely fantastic, easy to book. They pull up at the hotel. The same trip in a uber would have cost thirty three dollars. We did it for twenty seven dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get a disc out and you don't have to tip the driver. No, So, how did you, Bob getting into the car the first time? How did you feel about it?
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Speaker 12: Fantastic because I just I'm believe in that sort of technology. I've got electric car myself, and they have right. They don't use cameras, they use radar as well, so they're very safe. The only problem is that if they're coming on the road and the car wants to turn left, they just turned in front of them, knowing that they're going to stop. Oh really Yeah, but the pedestrian came in front of and the car stopped, and it also came up against the garbage truck in a narrow street and it sort of went out, the flashed its flights and then went around the wrong side of the road. So they're pretty small.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you you'd welcome them in Adelaide.
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Speaker 12: I love America, and they're cheaper, they're safer. You haven't got some idiot beyond the wheel. It can have an accident. These have done twenty five million miles in San Francisco without causing an accident themselves. There's only accidents they've had this where people have hit.
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Speaker 1: Them, right. Yeah, And I mean anyone who's familiar with San Francisco would know it's not the easiest city to negotiate. I mean that the hills and you know, turns and street and narrow streets and the like it is it is. It's not like Adelaide, but wide open streets.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a lovely I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my favorite city in America. Bob, we'll talk about that.
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Speaker 5: Another.
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Speaker 1: Good on your Bob.
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Speaker 12: Okay, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for your carl. So there's Bob. He's experienced firsthand driverless cars. A normal cab fare would be thirty three dollars. This was twenty seven dollars. He didn't have to tip the driver, didn't have to make small talk. Sounds good. What are your thoughts? Eight double two to three double back After the Knees.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Mornings with Gram Goodings.
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Speaker 1: CFS State Deputy Commander is Rave Jackson.
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Speaker 6: So the fire Deep Creeks continuing to burn. Our volunteers and some of our partner agencies last night worked really hard to try to contain this fire that obviously in those difficult areas, it was not able to be contained overnight. So there is still active fire down there. So we have got a watchin act message prepared to leave for the Deep Creek fire still out.
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Speaker 1: David Paparella is a Cape Jervis resident who's in the vicinity of the farry got to.
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Speaker 7: About one and a half kilometers maybe less to the eastern boundary of the town overnight to the surface did an amazing job in terms of stopping it progressing any further to the town. Looking at it right now where the fire has burned last night, we're in the middle of summer and there's a white, misty smoke rising from the sides of the which reminds you of winter. So we're certainly in a very fortunate position to still have our properties and places with us.
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Speaker 1: Just some of the things that have happened so far. If you'd like to comment on them, I'd love to hear from me. Eight double two to three double o double. Oh, well, how do you feel about being driven around by a driver's car? You can imagine it. You're going out for the night, and you and your partner book a cab and you walk outside, walk up to the car, open the door, then no one behind the wheel. How would you feel about it? Well, it's getting closer to becoming a reality. It's happening in oversea cities. It's happening successfully in places like San Francisco and Los Angeles, but it's soon coming to Australia. What is the impact, when's it likely to happen? Drive dot com dot Au director of Content James Ward joins us. Now, James, good morning to you. Good fighting mate. So the dream that the thing that we saw on TV and movies not that long ago is closer to becoming a reality. This is it.
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Speaker 13: I remember that it was a total recall where he gets into the Johnny cabin in cases that he's got the robot driver.
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Speaker 5: That's it.
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Speaker 13: And we've seen this in you see it at kind of the technology trade shows where they have the shuttle bus that's kind of doing it within the controlled environment. And then in recent years we've seen in the US WEAMO has a series of Jaguar EV SUVs that are completely driverless. They're supervised from a control center, but you call it up on your phone, it shows up at the curb and it takes you somewhere. And now Weaimo, which is the company behind this, is looking to set up in Australia. They've got officers, they're in consultation with governments and they will be looking at trialing this system here in Australia, which is a new legal kind of minefield for US because at the moment in Australia we are regulated to level two autonomy, which requires you can have some automation, but a human is completely in control of the vehicle. To move to what the weimos are, which is arguably level four, it's a big step and you know they can be testing and doing things here. But in order for that to hit a like a consumer, the reality like we've seen in the US and like we see in the movies, yeah, we've we've got to make sure our laws catch up with the technology.
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Speaker 1: The question that a lot of people ask is other than the fact that feeling a little bit unsafe and insecure, is that if there were to be an accident, who's going to be responsible?
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Speaker 13: This is the thing, right, Like we often laugh, people say, I don't know if I want to get into the automotive industry of the mode because it's a bit of a minefield.
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Speaker 1: It's like a tea.
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Speaker 13: Where you'd be great is being an ethics lawyer, because we've all heard of the trolley problem, which is basically that the idea if you've got a tram coming down a rail and it is going to it's going to run over a person. But you stand by the switch, and you can. If you do nothing, it's going to run over one person. If you make a switch, it runs over three people, or the other way around. Either way you're in Action has consequence and action has consequence. And so with autonomy, the trolley problem is that is kind of the big question what does the car choose to do? Because if there is an incident where the car needs to probably protect its occupant in the event of a potential collision, if it can make a decision that protects its occupant but then puts other people in harm's way, or what is that decision making process to be And so it is this is the ultimate ethics question of yeah, which is the lesser of two evils? What decision can the vehicle make? And so what we see in the US is these cars are limited to very low speed. They're just they're not crawling. They're moving at street speeds. But they are in urban areas, so they're doing forty kilometers an hour or thereabouts. You are working within controlled areas. So it's not like you could grab the cab there in Adelaide's CBD and say, you know, take me to Gaula Yeah, take it to gaula right and deal with sort of country driving and stuff like that. So it would need to be managed and governed. But the rule set for the decision making process that is inherently down to technology. Is it going to make the right decision? And you know we as humans love to blame somebody else, So you know, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't want to be that person who's who's writing the code and making the decision and signing it off. And I dare say that's why we will take a lot longer because our politicians are not really known for their you know, risk taking stances. Everybody likes to be very favorable and will do whatever they can to put in red tape so that nobody can be held accountable.
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Speaker 1: Well as well as the moral and legal dilemma, what about the other sorts of aspects of this. There will be a lot of taxi and uber drivers thinking I could be out of a job.
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Speaker 13: Well, this is the thing. And we see we've seen the whole ride share industry turned on its head when Erber came in, and even now you're seeing, like my personal experience with both taxis and ride share operators, you've got people trying to game the system so that they are they're able to charge more, or they can they can choose a different fare. And i'd see what I've had my share of drivers from, you know, whether it's a taxi or a ride share, who I am not comfortable with being behind the wheel. So you've got you've got training, you've got all sorts of things that are put in here at the moment. But again, this is all being kind of governed by ease of use for consumers and big businesses putting big dollars behind it. That the kind of the classic sensibility of what we're offering is is often forgotten and certainly from you know, I remember growing up where you would hear the taxi licenses were worth quarter of a million dollars because they were a way of protecting income. They're now worth nothing. And so if we're putting in these robotized vehicles that are doing all of this menial work, you know, whether it's garbage collection or whether it's this, you've got these service vehicles basically doing set programs. Those professionals who are doing it now are being forced out of work. And we're seeing that, yeah, across across the board. There's not a day that goes by where you don't hear that jobs are under threat from AI. When you're looking at transportation, Yes, jobs are definitely under threat from automation.
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Speaker 1: And it's not a matter of if, but it's a matter of when.
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Speaker 13: No, that's it, and look, the question then begs though. We've seen a couple of cases where there have been injuries and fatalities in the US where these vehicles have done things or made decisions, and quite often the investigation has sort of shown that it was human error at the end of the day. That's going to be the real test is when you've got something that is fully automated and running in a way where it is making decisions. If somebody, somebody loses their life on that, it can grind all of these things to a halt very very quickly.
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Speaker 1: Games Just finally, on another matter of the fuel xise, So, is there any thoughts in the industry that this money is not being spent in the right direction or were being crippled by it?
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Speaker 13: Yes, it is probably the city I think if if any of us have been out on the roads, whatever state you're in, and let's remember so fuel xie is a is national revenue and it goes into what's known as general revenue. And it used to be argued that that xcize from the taxation on fuel would go into roads. Roads just one part of general revenue that can benefit from it. But I don't know if you've been on any roads around Australia at the moment. They're terrible, right, We've got the worst potholes, the worst maintained roads. They're not fixed, they're not they're not properly repaired, they're simply patched. In some states I don't know, Victoria are worse than others in many ways. So the question as to what is happening here, because you get in Melbourne particularly, you get these fighting stanzas of whether it's a state or whether it's a federal a state, or of council responsibility to repair these things. And so that idea of taxation from fuel excise, particularly as we're moving to more fuel efficient vehicles and obviously plug in hybrids and and electric vehicles that are using far less petrol than ever before, the question is now turning to perhaps a road user charge so that we can the government can start to recoup a revenue at a level that they sort of need to for the volume of vehicles that are traveling on our roads. But again it's that the sixty four thousand dollar question, or probably sixty four billion dollar question, is is that money being reinvested to make our roads better, safer, longer lasting. I think the seat of the pansometer says no.
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Speaker 1: James, great to chat, thanks for here inside cheers. Drive dot com dot au director of Content James Ward on self driving cars and potholes. The fuel exercise has gone up again. We pay more in fuel excise than we do for the actual cost of the fuel, and yet the money doesn't go to where it should. What are your thought's eight double two three, double five double.
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Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's twenty two past ten on this absolutely delightful Tuesday, third day of Feb twenty six degrees currently on its way to thirty two. Andrew says, I'm fine with drivers cars, but they come with issues. A month ago, San Francisco had a power outage. All the driver's cars stop dead in the middle of the streets, apparently interacted with the traffic light system and other systems that guide them. But they need electricity well, how would that go in Australia. Not that we have lots of blackouts, but the potential is always there. Gg your comment that nurses etc. Under pressure, overloaded and cannot do the simple things like supply a sandwich. Reference to your caller, It's time to stop pretending that all is well in our health system, to start asking the hard, unpopular questions. Who has priced themselves out of work? Whose work practices have grown to such a level that efficiency and productivity have collapsed. Well, first, I make a point. I don't know that anyone's pretending that all is well in the health system. I don't know who you mean by pricing themselves out of work. Surely you don't mean nurses at that. I mean anyone that suggests that nurses are overpaid. Really, we should spend twelve hours with a nurse and find out exactly what they do. I think they deserve every cent they get. Eight double two to three double O is a number to ring. Cory Bernardi is joining One Nation, as we've heard, and I'm seeing he's just giving a press conference with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson, and will bring you an except of that shortly. When it comes to hand more on the government high gram. The ministers need to sit in an emergency to get the real story. Rah is a pristine looking building which is the most expensive built hospital in the world, means little when the wait times are ridiculous and the emergency department is not run properly. Thank you for that bell. You've had further thoughts on that, I'd love to hear them, Huie, Good morning.
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Speaker 14: Rin and Grahame. You know in life, as we learned that a place is only as good as it's managed.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I.
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Speaker 14: Think and I think half the politicians were operating a fish and chip shop like Pauline Hanson did, they'd have problems. Temperatures would rise and temples would rise, and the customer flow probably go down and to be no better. Often they'd be cursing. They're fellow politicians for the cost of living. So where they are now they're pretty stable and good wages, so whatever that one. Listen, you have that gentleman talking about the drivers. Cars We notice have come out, especially in the Europe and America, especially to facilitate the need for them to try and cut down costs being drivers as such. But the problem which was to discuss with you and your guests a few minutes ago. Insurance now, I think predominantly eventually these cars break down. Being man made, they're not perfect. We know that we're seeing the excellence overseas now. Being that, I'll just wonder what the insurance thought out is overseas the moment. We haven't got the abundance of them in Australia at the moment. Eventually when they become more built in the populated areas of Australia, especially the main cities, and they do break down and then it cause accidents. Just wonder where the insurance lies for the drivels car to make claim upon bodily injury If you're in a conventional petual diesel driven vehicle to electric vehicle, that may constitute an accident. So a lot minded specialist lawyers down the track.
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Speaker 1: Gram Yeah, looking post an interesting point. Quian Look. I don't know if the matter has been resolved even overseas, but certainly Australia seems to be cautious in many areas, and I would suggest we'll be pretty cautious when it comes to driver it as cars, the insurance, the culpability, who is responsible and who know the insurance companies will be working on it. I'm sure lawyers will have a field day ethically and otherwise, but it will be certainly an interesting situation. Thanks for cool Huy a double two three, double double, if you'd like to comment on that or anything else we've been talking about. As we now know, Corey Bernardi, former Maverick Liberal, is now a member of One Nation. He is running for the Upper House in South Australia. He had a joint press conference with Pauline Hanson a short time ago. This is what Pauline Hanson had to say.
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Speaker 15: The high debt that you have, there's no hope for the people. The cost of living, the lack of housing, mass migration, all these things have accumulated and has had an impact and still will continue to have an impact unless we put out decent, common sense policies to turn it around. I'm warning labor now you're on notice. We are coming for your seats and we are actually going to represent the people of this state to give them hope and the future generations. Hope that they can own a house, hope that they can hold on to a job, Hope that they can get that hospital bed when they need it. Nursing homes. It just goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 16: And my main thing.
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Speaker 15: Is equality for all Austrayans and especially with mass migration. If you come to this country, assimilate, become Australian and join us and be proud of what we are as a nation not divided.
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Speaker 1: And after Pauline Hanson, the one Nation new recruit, Cory Bernardi had this to today.
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Speaker 17: Pauline has been perhaps if not one of the most resilient and precient political figures of our time. For three decades, she's been advocating the same course, the right course for Australia. She's saying there is something wrong with the legacy political system, where the two party duopoly effectively is working against the people and just for themselves.
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Speaker 1: And the real measure of that is.
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Speaker 17: When you examine the problems that people are facing today, particularly here in South Australia, crime, housing, affordability, the lack of industrial progress, opportunity for families, opportunity for our farmers and our fishers. These are the sorts of things by which we measure the success of a state. And yet all the problems we face are a result of the decades of the two party duopoly which have been more entrenched about looking after their own survival than the betterment of the voters.
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Speaker 1: Who put them there.
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Speaker 17: I'm here to tell you today that that's going to change. Our commitment is to common sense policies that give a voice back to every South Australia. Pauline made a comment there has been no opposition in this state. It's as if the only competition we have between the two major parties is who's going to manage the social, economic and cultural decline slightly less.
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Speaker 1: Badly than the alternative.
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Speaker 17: We can't accept that anymore. We need common sense policies. We need a commitment to speak up for the things that matter to every South Australians, not to the party insiders were not the machine men. It's all about the people and that's what I'm absolutely committed to do.
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Speaker 1: That's the voice of Corey Bernardi announcing that he is running for One Nation. He'll be number one on the One Nation ticket for the Legislative Council. Would that change? Would you vote for one Nation based on what Corey Bernardi had to say? Do you think one Nation is the way to go? Or are you solid behind the party that you've supported all along or do you think it's time for a change, Like to know your thoughts eight double two three double double O. Back after news headlines when we look at stronger standards needing to be set for southa Stradia's retirement villages.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings at.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven minutes to eleven. Jan says, wow, gg drive it us taxis in San Francisco. Don't know if Adelaide is ready for them yet. We love the cable cars in San Francisco. Broke down once and along came a vehicle with a bar on the front, which pushed us to get us going again. Fun, if not in a hurry. Just loved our stay in San fran just like you. One of my favorite stops.
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Speaker 5: Yet.
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Speaker 1: It is an amazing city, San Francisco. Just yeah, It's probably the one place in America I could live. It is a magnificent city. Well, new retirement village laws take effect in southa Stralia from today. What will they mean for residents and operators joining us?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 1: For the Minister for Aging, Well is Nat Cook Nat? Good morning to you, Hi Graham, how are you good? Thanks sir? What is this going to mean?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, So we've been talking about this on and often. Thanks for the time that we've had talking about this before all those the review that's happened on the Retirement Villages Act and all the work that's gone into it from so many residents and people in the public are very interested in this, as well as the cooperation of the operators. We've now got to a point where from yesterday these new rules come into play. So the important thing that we are focusing on is the way that looks for people who want to live in a retirement village and need information and need clarity about what their life will look like from a not just a connected community point of view, but from a financial point of view. And then what happens once you're in the retirement village, and how you work together with the operator and other residents for harmony in your life and making sure everyone's on the same page in terms of what happens in the village and that you're given appropriate information, and then also really understanding what could happen from a financial and a personal point of view when and if you want to leave or need to leave the retirement village and go on to another phase of life.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's about the transparency of.
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Speaker 18: The information up front, the clarity of that information and how to seek help to understand it, and then also how that might look when you live in the retirement village, was receiving that information and working with the operators, and then also peace of mind so that you know what you're up for when you're leaving.
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Speaker 1: So what's the single biggest change that residents will actually notice.
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Speaker 18: I think the transparency in contracts and the disclosure statement for people who are going to live in there should provide people with better information to continue to refer back to once they live there. And then also for people who are living in retirement villages. Also there are enhance codes of conduct to come in for operators, staff and residents, and what we're doing there is providing support for operators and staff to receive education over the next year to make sure people do have a better standard and quality of operator and staff member working in and around villagers. So there's also some strengthening around emergency planning and safety standards and that's really important and should offer people peace of mind around their village. And then also for people who need disability or access modifications with their property. There's some rules in place there so that people have got a bit of support in evidence in the Act to say they're entitled to be able to access their property and may need support to get upgrades and disability modifications.
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Speaker 16: And I think the spelling.
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Speaker 18: Out in the contract Act of how much money they will need to pay on.
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Speaker 2: Exit or how much comes out of their property on exit.
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Speaker 18: And then probably two other ones quickly is that people have there is now a register that's online and live, so people can now go onto retirement villages dot my dot site, site dot com, and there is a register now being constructed, so every single retirement village has information about what it offers and some of the conditions of living in that village already listed. Every single village is on there, whether it's eight units or three hundred units, every village is on there, and operators are now being assisted to and provided the opportunity to populate those pages with information. So when you're looking somewhere to live, you can actually go online and like every other product almost in the world, you can let your fingers do the walking and get some upfront information.
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Speaker 2: Some is compulsory and some is optional.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned exit fees it's being major concerned a lot of people. Can you tell us more about how that new system will operate.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think there are a cap on some of the fees, so a cap on the amount that can be deducted from the exit entitlement towards what we call a capital fund. So sometimes that was quite the mystery and a rude shock to people who were exiting who suddenly found when they expected to get, you know, perhaps five hundred thousand, they were getting much much less than that back when they were exiting, so the money that they had to reinvest in another property, for example, was much reduced.
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Speaker 2: So that's very good.
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Speaker 18: And also there is some cap to some of the recurrent charges as well, and I cavey at all that information by saying there are some differences from one village to the other, and some already have got good rules. And the next part to it is a reduction to the maximum time for the repayment of fees. Since I've been in Parliament this has come down substantially and I'm really pleased. So now the operator must pay the money back to the person within twelve months and thirty days. So that's very important for people because only you know, six or eight years ago. It was a couple of years. So this has come down this time from eighteen months to twelve months and we're grateful to the feedback and also to the operators for helping us to do that.
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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, we have a question on the text line from deb from the Riverland. She says, I have tried five retirement villages but all have waiting lists. What can that cook say about this?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, So we have done some changes to planning laws around and the best person probably to explain all of those would be Nick Champion, who's the Minister for Planning and together with some of the key stakeholders, has really worked hard to provide some stimulus in the acts around planning to try and promote some building and development of these facilities. And what that is probably one of the keys is, like many other property investments in the aging sector, there has been a lack of investment and I think probably regionally that is even bigger than in the metropolitan area. So we've been getting around talking to retirement village operators as well, and we hope through some of the planning laws and some of the language that we're using and conversations we're having to improve that confidence to invest in this particular area of supply which is really important to people.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate what deb saying what.
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Speaker 1: The role did the Retirement Living Council have in the drawing up the new laws.
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Speaker 18: They were consulted at every step of the way, and we've had a really productive relationship with not just the Property Counsel but also the Retirement Living people, So Daniel Gannon, Bruce Dtay, they've been involved in working with us and two way conversations and people will remember that Chris Picton, the Minister for Health and well Being, was the previous Minister for Seniors and Aging well and under his watch for the first couple of years of our government, he was involved deeply in those conversations. So they have been involved and communicated all the way, and we've pressed the case on behalf of residence because that is the important thing from my point of view, to make sure or that this whole process for people is an informed choice. As we know, people aren't buying the property, they're buying a license to occupy a property for a lifestyle choice. But it's important that that choice is you know, with eyes wide open and We've made that very clear to all of those key stakeholders and they've been really the conversations have been really good. And I think while we were doing this, not only did we want to make sure it was good for people who live in villages. We have people like deb at front of mine, because we don't need a system where people are frightened to invest because there's it's you know, the rules are so bad that it's no good for operators. So you've got to hit a balance and I think we've tried to do that.
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Speaker 1: Minister, thanks so much for your time. Good to chat. That's the Minister for Aging. Well in that cook on the strongest standards that have been said for Southastrada's retirement villages. If you have a comment, give me called eight double two to three double o double o. Steve has done just that.
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Speaker 19: Good ayah. The biggest issue I'm in a retirement village now and it's the best living that you could bost possibly do. The community is fantastic. The big issue I have is that there's this crazy notion is that when you leave, everything has to be restored back to its original condition. And so in my unit here, I'm in one of over two hundred units, I had three. There were three perfectly good serving fans. There are window coverings. They are all ripped out and thrown away. I want to put solar cells on. They tell me I can't put solar cells on because they will have to rip them off when I leave. I can't put outside coverings on my window because and I've got a west facing window that during the afternoon heats up the whole house. And I can't put a covering on because they've had too many coverings over it in the past, and they have to rip that off when I leave. And it's just ridiculous the waste and that, and the new person coming in cannot say, well, I'll take responsibility for that. I'll maintain that. But you know, they just rip everything out and it's back to the standard. They even rip everything in the garden out and put a standard garden in and it's just a massive waste.
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Speaker 1: Understand your frustrations. To you, that does seem a ludicrous situation.
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Speaker 19: But and this is like I'm in a major, major company that they used to advertise on your station all the time. There's thousands of residents and they're all under these conditions, and when you leave, they're ruthless. You know the number of stories I hear about people having to fight to get any sort of decent thing happening because they just want to just rip everything out. I mean I've lost you know, But I mean, once you're here and you're living here, it's fantastic because but it's the other residents because you become part of community. I'm in the Gator community. It's great, and we've got social stuff on. It's fantastic, whilstyle. It's just that if we could do if we could improve our places to our you know, pay out, we buy these things and then maintain them ourselves, that would be so good. And then there's a new resident coming in and say yes, I'll have that and that and will take responsibility for that. That would be fantastic. Yeah, that would make it excellent.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes it makes a lot of sense. Steve, Thanks for you. Call back at the moment.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: At eleven to eleven on this Tuesday morning, beautiful, beautiful day and Adelaide currently twenty seven degrees heading towards thirty two today. Well, the Deep Greek bushfire is still burning. We don't know what state it's in, so let's find out. Seven News reporter Hayden Nelson joins us Hayden, Good morning morning. How are things on the scene.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, a little bit of a wind gust has returned here to the Deep Creek bush fire this morning, so there is a concern that that could continue to whip up the conditions that we saw overnight, those gusty conditions which saw Cape Jervis be put on a shelter emergency alert last night. Not saying that will reach that again today, but because of this area and because of the topography of it, geography of it is that when you get the wind, even the slight disgusted wind gets into the valley, which, as you know around here, are pretty deep and there's a lot of them, and if there's fire in those valleys, it is like a flamethrower effect. It just stokes the fire. And you see this, You see the vegetation in there taking hold of really quickly. So they are a little pockets of fire in this huge expanse of about six hundred and fifty hectares were really concerning for cruise and you've got aerial water bombers which have returned in the past hour or so to restart their really important work of defending properties that has been What has been really highlighted this morning is that the fire came really close to the Big four holiday parking Cape Jervis, and it came really close to a number of other sort of tiny houses I guess you call them those retreats and things like that which people you don't have a holiday accommodation, a holiday lets, and people's properties as well. But it was the efforts of the CFS, the Farm Firefighters and the MFS as well. We've had strike teams in place defending those properties which have really seen at this stage no property losses on the fire ground. The latest morning is a watch in nax Warding that covers Deep Creek, Silverton, blowholl Beach Road and Cape Jervis as well. So that has been downgraded since last night, but it is still a sizeable fire over a really sizeable area. We've been speaking to a few people who have parked up at the Delaware checkpoint for the for the night. They stayed overnight here. A few others took shelter at friends places. There was holiday park as well, who were allowing people to go and stay there, which was obviously really generous given they'd probably be pretty well booked down in a holiday park, in particular opening it stores for people to sleep there. Last night, we know lots of people slept in their cars because Maine South Road continues to be blocked here this morning and may all be blocked well into today. So there are a few factors that play here, Graham, that are sort of moving parts for the CFS at the moment. And as I said, the MFS who are in there as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kate Jervis is not likely to be any under threat. I mean it's not like the fire is not like in retraced steps.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, I mean the winds are unpredictable. It went from a south easterly to a northeasterly. It may well go back to a southeasterly. What happened at Cape Jervis last night was a spot fire, like a large spot fire. You can just hear a water bomber going over the top of me. Now that went ahead of that larger blaze has just been burning for several days, and that was the real concern for Cruise. So that took him a few hours to get under control, because you know, it can blow an absolute gust down here and that's what it did last night to bring that under control. So look, anything is possible in a scenario like this. I think, you know, firefighters have that alert in face for all that region because they're still very much concerned about this fire. But it is a watch and act at this stage. So it is worth as people have been doing, you know, keeping an eye across media and the CFS alerts. But there are hundreds of firefighters here today. There have been reinforcements brought in from the sort of a CFES truck go passes narrow court written on the side, so from all over the state, and there are wars of bombers as I said, that have done hundreds of water drops, can continue doing that throughout the day. So at this stage, the fire remains out of control, but that doesn't mean to say, you know, it still remains unpredictable.
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Speaker 1: Heyen Nelson, thanks so much for that report. The Deep Creek fire remains uncontrolled, but a watch an act alert at the moment. June says, why would I vote for Pauline Hanson in our state? Election. She was voted in representing people of Queensland, not southas Stratia. She has no connection with Essay, never has had. I doubt she has any interest in us in the past. How many times has she ever been here? Sorry, I will vote for a leader that lives in this state and represents us and well being. Thank you for that, June. Well, Cory Bernardi has announced that he will throw his hat into the ring running for One Nation. Would that and not just speaking to you specifically, June, but would that make anyone out there change their tune? You've heard One Nation second most popular party in Australia, But when it comes to voting for them, would you vote for them? Corey Bernardi has a long and successful career in politics behind him. A maverick Liberal, he left the Liberal Party disenchanted with him. Now he's hitched his wagon to One Nation. What do you think? Eight double two to three double o double? Would that make you want to vote for Corey Bernardi or not? Tom? What are your thoughts?
01:18:26
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I haven't been listening this morning. I just kept coming from pretending to be a gardener.
01:18:32
Speaker 1: No real, Well, you didn't to talk to us about gardening. What do you want to talk about?
01:18:38
Speaker 8: No?
01:18:38
Speaker 4: Okay, if I may just reforce what I was saying, yes about politics. I was just going to put you on the spot if I can, without saying to be a bit of a smarty pants here. You woke up tomorrow and you were the head honcho, prime minister, dictator. What I were somebody who actually said something and people had to actually agree to it. What three things would you choose to do if you had that power tomorrow?
01:19:07
Speaker 1: If I was the prime Minister of Stratia, I had the power to make decisions.
01:19:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, three things that you think would make a big difference to our country.
01:19:18
Speaker 1: You have become the spot here?
01:19:19
Speaker 4: Will I don't mind you're thinking about it? Getting back to me?
01:19:23
Speaker 1: I certainly. I think immediately of immigration, I think that needs to be cut back because we have a housing crisis. So many people are impacted by it, and that would not immediately resolve the problem, but it would certainly take the pressure off the more money to be spent on health from the federal level age care that needs to be That is a critical area because all the problems with health seem to trickle down from the fact that we have insufficient beds for the elderly, and instead of going into retirement villages and other areas, they occupying hospital bed So that would that would sort of be two. Three. I would cut back on a hell bent rush towards renewables because I philosophically I think that while there's wonderful to try and cut emissions, I don't think that I know for a fact that we're doing it at the price the cost of the average Australian power bills are going through the roof. Renewables all well and good, but they cannot sustain on their own. So there are three things. There could be more, Tom, Because you've caught me on the hoppy.
01:20:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I say, you get back to me, who want to But there's more than three things that need to be done on Oh yeah, yeah definitely. But yeah, I agree. I took completely on the first one, as you'd probably not. That's how I feel. By at least eight for about for about three to five years until we get our heads above water again.
01:20:58
Speaker 1: So what are your other other two?
01:21:00
Speaker 4: Well, just again there's more than three. I would actually, somehow or another I would cut all politicians salaries and perks by at least thirty percent, simple as that. And the third thing is I would I would reduce the councils in this country roughly one council per roughly two hundred and fifty thousand people. That's it. So I don't know how many we got here at the moment, it was just over a million people here.
01:21:29
Speaker 1: Oh, in the state. I don't think we've got close to seventy councils in the state.
01:21:33
Speaker 4: Well, let there you go, we're going to end up with about four to six. Good on your I mean, in other words, let the local government do the work they're supposed to be doing instead of palming out the councils.
01:21:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, good advice. Seeh I think there's a lot of a lot of wisdom and what you're saying. One more call before news can I mark?
01:21:51
Speaker 21: Good morning sir, How are you today?
01:21:53
Speaker 1: Good? Thanks?
01:21:54
Speaker 21: I picked it yesterday for Cory A Aredy joining one nation. Yes, great idea, fantastic.
01:22:04
Speaker 1: That will get your vote.
01:22:06
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:22:06
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's the Jeans comment. I like Peter Melanous because he's a good guy. Is the wrong party to lead this state in this country, and obviously Susan Lay and everyone there can't make a decision on who to look after. They're supposed to be looking after the Australian way of life, our way of living, our national interests, our reserves on gas and everything. Labor no good, Liberal, no good, Greens no good. They can't even fly an Ausraelian flag in their office. Let's back one Nation one hundred percent.
01:22:44
Speaker 1: Good on your mark. Thanks for input. They're your thoughts. Would Corey Bernardi change your vote? Had you thought about voting one Nation? And we're a bit hesitant. Now Corey Bernardi is running for them? Will that change?
01:22:56
Speaker 5: Let's know?
01:22:57
Speaker 1: Eight double two three back after the news five double.
01:23:01
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham.
01:23:02
Speaker 1: Goodings and a very good morning to you if you've just joined us one hour ago, still time for you to give us a call. Eight double two three double oh double o Graham. Could you please let us know what the website is that Nat Cook mentioned for checking retirement villages. Thanks Mark, yep, we can do that. It's retirement village my site. Well, I'll read it right, retirement village one word dot my dot site dot com. So retirement village one word dot my dot site dot com. Eight double two three double o double is the number if you want to have a chat. Andrew's done just that. Good day, Andrew, Jilly Graham, how well, thanks.
01:23:42
Speaker 22: As far as the Cory Bernardi one Nation thing goes, Ashton Hern is our member up here and she's awesome.
01:23:49
Speaker 8: Love.
01:23:49
Speaker 22: Yeah, she's helped me. She's helped me a couple of times. My vote would go there. But if she wasn't our member, I'd vote to One Nation in the state election for sure. I probably should if they don't know what your thoughts would be, But if they did coalitions between One Nation a Liberal party, there's almost Slavor party.
01:24:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's an interesting point of view, although it would seem that a lot of the disaffected Liberal supporters have gone to One Nation. So I don't know if we could ever see a coalition between them, but would It's an interesting concept, haven't I Ashton Hern gets Andrew's vote, but if it wasn't for Ashton Hearn, she would vote for Corey Bernardi. What are your thoughts? Has he changed your opinion thinking of one Nation? But Pauline Hansen based in Queensland and largely centered around there, but they're fielding candidates in every seat in South Australia. What are their policies. I guess that will that will mean a lot. They need to come out and declear their policies on a whole range of issues. We know One Nation's policies on some you know, red ticket items, but what about the if if you want to get into power, you've got to it's got to be on all of policy basis. You have to have policies on every aspect. It can't be just immigration and housing. So we need to know more about that. If you go to One Nation website, you will see what Paul and Hansen's views are on a whole range of things. But maybe she needs to be publicly speaking about that. SA Health spend a lot of money for overseas nurses and doctors. They use for us for their passport visa paperwork so they can come into our country. They get a job in the hospital, work for three months, and then they decide to leave the hospital. These people use our system so they can get into our country. Why is this not spoken about? Thanks for letting us know that, Kathy. Look, if somebody can give us some more detail, we'll pursue that further. But is this a regular occurrence overseas nurses? And doctors using the system to get into Australia and then they move on. Well, the IBA is meeting this afternoon to determine where to go with interest rates. It will be very interesting to see. Yesterday we spoke to Dr Susan Stone, a regular on this program. This is what her thoughts were about the meeting.
01:26:06
Speaker 23: I think people are really betting heavy that they're going to increase the rates. The economy practically full employment growth has not been bad. We've been seeing an uptick. It's not great, but it's an uptick in consumer spending. So I think really the RBA is feeling like the biggest problem or headwind that the economy is facing right now is continued inflation, and so that is their main priority. So I think that they'll probably want to act on that.
01:26:33
Speaker 1: That's doctor Susan Stone. Now, I was listening to Breakfast with David will this morning. They had economist Saul Leslik on. He thought interest rates would probably rise, but he his feeling was that they should go on hold for another month. So it will be interesting to see what the RBA finally decides. You'll hear the outcome of their decision first on five Doba this afternoon in Stacey Show.
01:26:55
Speaker 22: Maureen, good morning, Good morning Graham.
01:26:58
Speaker 16: How nice to talk to you.
01:26:59
Speaker 1: And to you.
01:27:00
Speaker 16: Thank you very much for returning my call. I was listening as I drove along and a woman was saying how there was nobody in South Australia interested in One Nation. I thought I might tell you about my interest in one nation. The secretary of the One Nation Party in the nineties and twenties with our president who's from the Lower North, we had Pauline Hansen come to South Australia many times giving speeches to people and the houses were always packed out. And this is at the beginning of her career, and she had a lot of common sense then owing to the fact that she was a single mother who had to run her own business. And there was a lot of sympathy with other women of the same type, including myself, who decided that she was an interesting woman with a lot of practical ideas. And we still do think the same way and we will be voting for her in the future as well.
01:28:09
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Maureen. Look, I think Pauline Hansen has never attracted the traction that she is at the moment. But to one thing, that can be said about her. She has remained constant. Her views in the late nineties when she first went to Canberra are the same as they are now. She has believed in a certain set of rights for Australians and she is stuck by them. While other parties vacillate and chase votes, she has not. And she was incredibly unpopular for many, many years with the bulk of Australians. All of a sudden, Australians are coming around, not to the Liberal, Labor Party or National Party's way of thinking, but to her way of thinking. It will be very interesting. I'm jen X Graham and I've seen how both parties have treated my generation. That's it. The gig is up. I'll be voting for one nation state in federal I can't wait for both elections, and there is nothing Labor or Liberal can say to change my vote. It will be interesting, as I said to Mark Riley earlier, that the Southastralian state election, which is seven weeks away, will be a litmus test for one nation. Because it's all well and good to have you know, the popularity poll saying twenty six percent second most popular party in the nation. But when it comes to people actually putting their name and putting that cross on the ballot paper for one nation or any party for that matter, they give it a lot of thought and they have to say is this the party I really want? And if it follows suit that the popularity at the moment that is reflected in the polls is reflected in fact in the South Australian state election, I would say that the government federally, I guess I don't think I'll had much impact in here in South Australia, but federally they will be looking over their shoulder, Hi Graham, I think Corey Bernardi summed it up perfectly. Voting for one nation is a change for the better for Australians, all Australians in my opinion. Thank you for that. Jason back shortly five double.
01:30:01
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings, but.
01:30:04
Speaker 1: He passed eleven and five double A on this delightful Tuesday. Vince, You've got some very strong words on the text line morning. Pointless in voting for a politician or party, because it's not the politicians who run the country. It's now run by corporations. You're all delusional if you're thinking any politician is working for you, Vince. That's a sad viewpoint if it's correct, and it certainly is. Let's hope that is not the case. I can know if you're thinking similarly, it'll be interesting if the support for one nation holds until the next federal election. A lot can change in three years, says Dan, and that is truly the case. Well, moving on, have you ever heard of Skurr. It's the Southern Koala and a kidneer rescue, South Australia's only full time wildlife, only veterany clinic and it's in need of a lot of help. Joining me in ours operations manager at Miss Simpson Mish, good morning to you, Good morning, thanks for joining us in the studio. I think everyone is sympathetic to the only one who's interested in protecting our wildlife. Tell us about Skirt.
01:31:07
Speaker 24: Yeah, So we're based in Onkaprnga Hills. We operate a twenty four hour rescue service, but we also operate a full time vac clinic, so we have a vet and vet nurse and vet students there as well, just providing care to the animals we rescue, as well as we support careers across the state with animals that are in their care, So how do you fund that? At the moment, it's all privately funded. Yeah, we've got one philanthropic foundation that's helped us build to this point, but we're very much relying on the community to help us. Yeah, keep up with the demand that's constantly growing.
01:31:43
Speaker 1: Don't get any government supporting, not at the moment.
01:31:47
Speaker 24: There is some talks that have been happening, and yeah, there is some thing coming up very soon a little bit that's going to help. But we're still heavily reliant on the community for projects and the ongoing funding.
01:32:03
Speaker 1: So tell us a typical day in the life of SKA.
01:32:07
Speaker 24: It changes from day to day. Sometimes it starts at two am in the morning, sometimes it's six am or yeah, just would you get.
01:32:16
Speaker 1: A call from someone they're animal in distress, something like that.
01:32:18
Speaker 24: Yeah, a lot of vehicle strikes and dog attacks happen overnight, so we yeah, being twenty four hours a day, we'll get someone out there to help with any animal in need. So yeah, it's never the same. And then yeah, at the moment we have heat waves and bushfires happening that yeah.
01:32:35
Speaker 1: Always going to bring that up the deep Greek bushfire that's really in your area.
01:32:40
Speaker 24: Yeah, well it's yeah, further south than us, but yeah, we're the closest wildlife fat clinic and we're watching it very closely. It's definitely going a bit out of control and there's going to be wildlife impacted.
01:32:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so no reports so far of wildlife in.
01:32:54
Speaker 24: Distress, not that we're aware of, but yet at the moment, I think the focus is on getting the fire under control, so it will be the days and weeks that follow is when the wildlife start coming out of the woodworks and needing our help.
01:33:06
Speaker 1: So what's a typical situation with I might be any typical situation. They can vary, but say a coalor is caught in a bushfire and a severely burned what do you do?
01:33:17
Speaker 24: It depends on the injuries. If they have severe burns to like all four pads on their feet and they're not going to get that black protective layer back, then sometimes the kindest option is euthanasia. There's also things like smoke inhalation that you have to be mindful of. So even if they don't have burns, being around that thick level of smoke, then it can actually turn into pneumonias and things like that, so they need proper vet assessments to make sure that you catch those things early on.
01:33:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite surprising to know that you are the only full time wildlife veterany clinic. I mean you would think in a country like Australia with so much wildlife that there would be clinics started around the state.
01:34:02
Speaker 24: Yeah, we're a bit behind the times. Other states definitely have multiple hospitals and there is the Adelais Koala and Wildlife Center on the Anzac Highway that do a great job, but unfortunately last year they downsized because of not having that funding. So yeah, that's why it's really important that we can keep getting the funding we need because the demand is definitely higher and higher for us, and the aim is eventually we'll catch up to states like Queensland that have multiple wildlife hospitals all across the state.
01:34:29
Speaker 1: I was going to say, how do we compare with other states, but it doesn't sound like it's too good.
01:34:33
Speaker 24: No, we're definitely behind the times when it comes to veterinary care for wildlife, that's for sure now.
01:34:38
Speaker 1: I mean it's an undershame, a call for help, and that's totally reasonable. I don't have any issue with that. How can people.
01:34:44
Speaker 24: Help Skir at the moment, A big project we're trying to get funding and even just practical assistance for is we need to build extra roofing over some new enclosures. We've extended our enclosures to house more kohalas and we are currently at capacity. Well we've got temporary enclosures we can set up, but all of our enclosures are full with twenty two koalas in care, So yeah, we need We're trying to raise funds and also see if we can get some builders to help us get some extra roofing over those enclosures, because then we then want to extend out our bush fire sprinklers. So we have bushfire sprinklers around our clinic and around the original enclosures, but we've expanded over the last couple of years. And yeah, we had a bush fire scare a couple of weeks ago a few hundred meters away from us. So it's a stark reminder that we need to stay operational and make sure we keep all those animals safe that need to rely on us.
01:35:39
Speaker 1: So where is your headquarters.
01:35:40
Speaker 24: In on Kaprnga Hills on Kimberley Road. So yeah, there was or rent it or my husband and I own the property. We live in a house and then basically Skir has the rest of the twenty two acres.
01:35:52
Speaker 1: So how did you get involved in the first place.
01:35:55
Speaker 24: I've always liked animals, and years ago I was working for I've worked for the government for eight years and I needed something to focus my passions on when I was dealing with a stressful thing at work and started studying animal science and then from there did some volunteering with RSPCA and faun A Rescue, and then eventually we just kind of started our own thing because we wanted to have all the animals in the one place, have veterinary care on site, and just do things a little differently, so.
01:36:23
Speaker 1: Veterinary care that's expensive to vets provide their time and services free of charge.
01:36:28
Speaker 24: Yeah, we started off with volunteer vets and then we started the workload just kept increasing and increasing, so then I was managing part time vets and then November the year before last, we actually brought on a full time vet because the workload was just getting too much. And we still do have volunteer vets. So obviously after hours and weekends we have four volunteer vets that helped fill those slots, but we're still trying to get more because even then after hours, it's just getting busier and busier.
01:36:59
Speaker 1: What did you say you run a twenty four to seven rescue service rehabilitation program, it must be all hands on. How many people would you have, you know, working on casual or full time basis?
01:37:09
Speaker 24: Well, we've got fifty volunteers, so we're very much still heavily reliant on volunteers. And then yeah, we have a full time vet and full time vet nurse and then myself and yeah, over time needing to increase that operational capacity because managing fifty volunteers and staff and a twenty for our rescue service and clinic, it definitely is starting to weighan a bit. So, yeah, we're definitely trying to get that consistent support and hoping the government will come on board and over the years see the growth that we're going and back us to keep going because yeah, at the moment we're working on year to year funding, which is a bit scary for.
01:37:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole place, Well, I'm sure that we five A listeners will say, look, you know times are tough, but I'm sure I can help in some way. What can they do?
01:38:00
Speaker 24: Yeah, obviously, donations is the biggest thing. Through our website www dot SKA dot org dot au. If there's anyone out there who can build verandas or pol goalers, please reach out because we want to start that project asap. And yeah, just save our number in your phone. If there's any hospitals that have medical equipment they're getting rid of, please keep us in mind because yeah, a lot of what we've built has been on donated equipment as well.
01:38:28
Speaker 1: Well. The five double A audience is very generous. I'm sure if they can help out, they certainly will. Miss Thanks for coming in today and keep up the great work.
01:38:35
Speaker 24: Thanks Graham.
01:38:36
Speaker 1: I've been speaking with the operations manager of skir Miss Simpson, so if you can help, I mean, you know, the only full time wildlife veterany clinic in South Australia. It needs your help and it needs your help as soon as possible. Eight double two three double double back shortly five Double.
01:38:53
Speaker 5: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:38:56
Speaker 1: Final half hour of the show. Martin says, good morning Graham, you asked for a fix for the hospital and health system. It's about time people started to take responsibility for their own health. The system is overloaded with people with self inflicted injuries. Obesity and all its associated issues is now the biggest problem. Thank you for that, Marty Jeff says. Imagine having politicians such as Pauline, Corey and Code running our state and country unthinkable. As they are or have been self employed business owners, surely they need to have been in the public service, unions or the rotten legal profession to qualify. Ah, Jeff, that's very funny. I think I know where you're coming from. Well, yes, it's made a few ways today Corey Bernardi throwing his hat into the ring with the One Nation cause, and let's get some insight into the matter. Joining us now is nine New State reporter Gus McDonald. Guss, How are you doing, good morning, Grame. Yeah, I'm well, Thank you. How are you pretty well? Thanks? The news about Corey Bernardi came a little out of left field. Did you have any inkling that was going to happen.
01:40:01
Speaker 25: Yeah, I'd heard on early radio yesterday there was talks about it, and we knew he was going to be announced. I'd spoken to some One Nation insiders yesterday afternoon. They refused to let me know whether he was running, it was going to be announced as the next Senate candidate in a couple of years, or in the ledge coat, or if he was just joining as as a potentially you know, waiting in the wings for any sort of vacancy in the Senate. Yeah, it was a pretty big announcement today as well. They did it up at montefory Hill, a lot of One Nation supporters, a lot of loud One Nation supporters and Cory Bernardi. I asked him at the press conference, I said, who came to you? Did you go to Pauline or did she come to you? He said that she had come to him, and that he described as one of the best days of his life. Really she asked him to rerun or return to public life.
01:40:54
Speaker 1: It is interesting. I mean, it's obviously of significance. I mean, she has fun in a town for the announcement. It really gives One Nation a profile in Southdastolia they probably never had before.
01:41:05
Speaker 25: Oh, certainly, and we have seen this before with One Nation in South Australia where they've polled well and they haven't really seen the results that they were expecting and similar to what we saw with Nick Xenaphon as well, you know polled well but then didn't see the results as a minor party.
01:41:21
Speaker 2: So this profile that Corey brings to number one on the.
01:41:25
Speaker 25: Ledge co Chicket will be really interesting to see how it translates and if the polling is correct, he'll definitely be in Parliament after March twenty one.
01:41:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is quite remarkable and it's interesting that he's thrown his cap in the ring for a state seat rather than the federal.
01:41:43
Speaker 25: Well, he spoke about that a little bit at the press conference and he said since leaving public life, he's had that small business over I think at Port Lincoln he's got a nois to farm and he's returned to the regional areas and he said there's a lot of smaller issues that he's noticed that are impacting South Australians and that's why when he.
01:42:01
Speaker 2: Was given the option by Pauline and he was so quick to jump at.
01:42:04
Speaker 25: It because he said there's a lot of issues that are being overlooked by the state government, especially in regional areas were his words.
01:42:14
Speaker 1: What about the Libs is this sort of going to sort of dampen Ashton Hearn's sort of tilt.
01:42:19
Speaker 25: Oh, it's certainly going to make their Upper House tickets squirm a little bit, especially if you're sort of sitting a third or fourth on the tickets. And then you've got to remember that One Nation have committed to running in all forty seven Lower House seats, so.
01:42:39
Speaker 2: Like it'll be interesting to see where preferences go.
01:42:42
Speaker 25: And how those candidates take votes away from Liberal Party members, especially in regional areas. You think about places like Flinders, you think about places like Chafey out in the Riverland in McKillip.
01:42:55
Speaker 2: These are really, you know, high interest seats for the Liberals.
01:42:58
Speaker 25: They need to be able to keep them and One Nation candidates probably won't make that easier depending on how preferences go.
01:43:06
Speaker 1: Certainly the battle for the Upper House has become way more interesting. It's usually a sidebar side issue, but with Corey Berner, a NADI running, and a high profile candidate like Chris McDermott running, it also puts the focus on the Upper House.
01:43:19
Speaker 2: Oh, certainly.
01:43:20
Speaker 25: And Chris mc dermot's also going to be a fascinating one to watch because he has such a big profile here in South Australia, which is completely different to Sarah Games party which doesn't really have much profile ever since she left One Nation, So Chris completely turns that around for her. There's still a significant amount of votes you need to win to get alleged coat seat. But I'll tell you one thing, if you wanted someone with profile, Chris mc dermot's probably right up there in South Australia, who you'd want on your party ticket here?
01:43:54
Speaker 1: Well, you have a question from the text line high Gramd. My question is who will One Nation's preference go to the last election They went to Labor So do you have any feeling and which way their preferences would head.
01:44:05
Speaker 25: Well, it'll be interesting. I've already started asking the question to Liberals One Nation. People behind the scenes told me those conversations haven't really started yet. I assume it'll be different to what we saw federally, and I think we will see candidates go back to the Conservatives this time around. That's just a feeling I get, but I'm not too sure. It will be actually really interesting to see because those preferences, if the polling's correct, and if the amount of votes that the polls expect to coming for one nation will be so influential into the result of what happens Somas twenty one.
01:44:42
Speaker 1: Well one nation polling at you know, twenty six percent, the second most popular in the nation. That doesn't necessarily reflect or translate to South Australia, but the election here in just seven weeks will be a real litmus test for one Nation one hundred percent.
01:44:57
Speaker 25: And I you know, speaking to some nation background is just this morning they said that this South Australian election is the first time they think they can become the official opposition in any state or territory in the country. And they said that's so important for them because first it's South Australia, and then later on this year it's Victoria, then it's New South Wales and it's Queensland, so that they know, and then it's a federal election, so that they're eyeing up this election. It was a really important one for them to put a foot stamp on their prominence going forward, not just you know, until the next federal election, but every state election.
01:45:36
Speaker 1: They're now I well, they've got a lot of wind and their sales at the moment, but if the state election was to be a dud for one nation. That would really knock the stuffing out of one nation. And Pauline Hansen, oh certainly.
01:45:50
Speaker 25: And you think as well with these minor parties, if you commit to running in every seat in the lower House, that's a lot of candidates and that's a lot of opportunity to be putting up people who might not have been vested properly or might not be the right person.
01:46:05
Speaker 1: You know.
01:46:05
Speaker 2: So with a lot of dare becomes a lot of fear as well.
01:46:11
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, look, a lot of interest to pay out or play out over the next a few weeks, particularly here in South Stadia. So what are your feelings regarding that? I mean, the government is pretty well, you know, locked in in southa Straateia. You know, we can't see any way, shape or form that they won't win, and probably with an increased majority. But do you think that the government is in any way concerned about the rise of one nation?
01:46:37
Speaker 2: I think the state government would have to be a little bit.
01:46:40
Speaker 25: And the reason I say that is because if the polling's correct and Cory Bernardi gets elected, he's going to be one loud politician here in State Parliament and He's not going to make the premier's life easy certainly, so you know, I think it's going to be tough for them, even you know, if the results are expect them to be. If Corey comes in, I'm sure he's going to rattle some cages.
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Speaker 1: We certainly live in interesting times, we do, and it.
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Speaker 25: Never seems to surprise me, especially now as South Australian politics. In the short time I've been covering it, nothing surprises me anymore.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Gus. That's Nine News State political reporter Gus McDonald on the tings and throwings of politics. We're just seven weeks out from the state election. It will be well. It was interesting anyway, but it was a one horse race. There was no question that Peter Malanaskis will be returned with an increased majority, more than likely a lame duck opposition, although Ashton hern is doing her best, but nobody gave them any hope. That probably still is the case. But now one nation has been thrown into the mix with a high profile candidate like Corey Bernardi. Pauline Hanson actually coming into South Australia to welcome Corey Bernardi and this is what he had to say about being chose by Pauline Hansen to run for One Nation.
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Speaker 2: Corey, did you approach Pauline or did she approach you?
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Speaker 17: It's fair to say that Pauline and I've had conversations over a number of years. I've supported the One Nation campaign last year, I joined One Nation last year, but ultimately the decision to return to representative politics was initiated by Pauline seeing if I was interested, and I'm delighted to say it was the happiest days of my life.
01:48:24
Speaker 1: Paulaine One Nation Upper House candidate Cory Benardi, will you vote for him? Will you vote for One Nation? Like to know what you're thinking? Eight double two to three double from the text line. We were talking earlier with the Minister for Aging Well Nat Cook about the improved standards for Southastin and retirement villages. A number of people said, look, can you give us the website that Nat Cook mentioned? Well, we passed on the website information. Marg has got in touch with that website. She said, Hi, Graham, thanks for the website details and it has made me laugh. I went to the website and this is what I got. Typical government. We click on the website and it says we are sorry, we're down for maintenance. Well there you go. Well apparently you can call eight two zero four two four to two zero as well eight two zero four two four two zero eight two zero four two four to zero. So apologies for that website, but obviously it is under some level of distress at the moment. Graham, driverless taxis great idea. All they do is drive for the long way around, rip off the government and the general public. Most of them are from overseas and they don't care about this country. Send them back home. Ah ah, Look, I think I know what you're saying here, Jack Graham. The driverless taxes are a great idea regarding the current drivers. They give you a run around trip. Okay, I should have pre read it, shouldn't I eight double two to three double o double. Oh hi gg What was the name of the VET you just had on the radio talking about the animals that need help with building cages? Sorry I missed the website name. Yes that was She was not a VET that She just runs the Southern Coala and a kidnap Rescue Research unit. It's called SKURR and operations manager is Mish Simpson. And I will get the website details and pass them on. So keep listening.
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Speaker 5: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: And what an entertaining morning it's been driverless cars? How do you feel about how do you feel about walking out go somewhere and there's your cars pulled up, your uber or taxi, there's no one behind the wheel. I don't know about that. Stacy Lee's on this afternoon after one. Stacy, have you been in a driverless car? How would you feel about it? No, I don't think i'd feel very looking apprehensive.
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Speaker 26: Yeah, I am apprehensive. I'm very apprehensive about a lot of the new technology that we're getting at the moment. I don't know. It makes me sound old, but I like to be in control of my car. I like someone to be in control of my car that I'm in. Even at the moment. My car has that function where I think it's lane assists it to text.
01:51:12
Speaker 1: It tells you when you're drifting out of your lane.
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Speaker 26: Ye that it doesn't just tell you is the car for you? And I don't like that because I know how to drive, and leave me alone to my own car, let me use my car.
01:51:26
Speaker 1: I get annoyed. With all the little buzzes and that they tell you you're too close to something, or you know your seat belt isn't belted up, and please just leave me alone.
01:51:36
Speaker 26: I don't think we need computers in cars. Computers are a great tool, you know, they help us communicate with people. We can find information at the drop of a hat. I don't think we need them in the cars.
01:51:45
Speaker 1: You know, cars are almost totally computers these days. They're not mechanics that look after cars these days, they're technicians.
01:51:54
Speaker 26: Well, I'm going to continue this conversation a little bit this afternoon because there's been some testing done in Melbourne with AI. And you know, they test AI. They test these car computers and they try and push them to their limits. And one of these tests that was done with one AI agent tried to push it to its limit to say if I was going to shut you off, what would you do, to the point where the AI admitted it would try and kill the human for trying to shut it off. And they said it would try and do that by causing a fatal car collision.
01:52:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I have heard similar research. Now, I have had similar research about a mock war. And you know how you would fight it, and so forth, and it got back to the point that it would kill the person who was trying to program it to stop the war, effectively terrifying it is. There is no question about that that AI is barely under control at the moment, and we're one step away from total I don't know what and.
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Speaker 26: We don't have laws to govern AI in Australia. I don't think I'll be talking to a tech expert this afternoon. Countries have brought in rules and regulations and limits the ways it can be used, or you know, advises people on how best to use it. We just don't seem to have that, and I'm not sure there's any appetite to implement that. So it feels like it's a bit of a free for all.
01:53:15
Speaker 1: Well where do you start, because every one of us has access to AI to a greater or lesser degree, So how do you police what AOI is being used for, how it's being used, and you know whether it's for good or ill? Because I think a lot of AI is great a lot of things. It can do a lot of medical research. It can achieve in minutes what would take years of research, and that's all great for.
01:53:39
Speaker 26: People who are not mobile and need AI to help them with that, people who are nonverbal and maybe need AI to communicate with people. It's great for those things, but.
01:53:47
Speaker 1: When it starts to take over and decide what is best for you. When it does, it moves out of the realm of being a tool. And as a tool, it is a wonderful thing, yes, but when it decides to think, well, programming me, I don't like what you're doing, so move aside and I'm taking over, Stacy. There's a scary territory.
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Speaker 26: I know, I know, so I'll continue the scary conversation this afternoon. We also have for our State of the Arts today and the owners of Gluttony coming into the studio to tell us everything about what they'll have down there at Gluttony this year. And a little Birdie has told me for the first time ever at Fringe there's a fringe someliair Oh, really, they can help you match your wine with your show.
01:54:31
Speaker 1: Hang on, we match wine with our food. Now we're matching wine with the show. That's very od I love it. How would they do that?
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Speaker 26: Is it depended on the time of day that the show is dependent on the theme the show is I think it's very cool.
01:54:45
Speaker 1: Where do you start, where do you stop? Yeah, and by the end of the show you probably don't care anyway.
01:54:50
Speaker 2: They match you one of every wine, please.
01:54:52
Speaker 1: Thank you more of the same Encore on Core exactly.
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Speaker 26: So we'll talk about that this afternoon. State's Decision. Of course, we'll have it live on the afternoon's program and we can fill you in on any of the fallout. It's our travel segment with Phil Hoffman Travel today and the huge announcement out of Adelaide Corey Bernardi moving to the One Nation Party. Well, we've followed up with them. I'm waiting to hear whether or not Cory Bernardi or Pauline Hanson are available, so I'm hoping fingers Cross will be able to get one, if not both of them on the show this afternoon.
01:55:26
Speaker 1: Now, you follow politics very closely, What impact do you think Corey Bernardi will have on people thinking about voting or not voting for One Nation.
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Speaker 26: I think this is a real personality politics play, and that's worked for One Nation over the last thirty years since Pauline Hanson's been in Parliament because she's been the stable face of the party for nearly three decades now, so in the beginning maybe she wasn't so popular, but now she's been there for so long and people clearly are resonating and liking her. Corey Bernardi did have a big following he was in Parliament. However, then he went out on his own and he launched Australian Conservatives and he didn't I don't think he even got half a percent in the.
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Speaker 1: Retraction at all.
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Speaker 26: So I'm not sure that Corey Bernardi as a name and a face will bring over a whole lot of voters. I think if people were going to vote for one nation, they would have already. It could help with a few extra people, but I think if you were already voting for one nation, you probably already supported Corey Bernardi. Yeah, I don't think it'll increase the vote as much. It gives them a face and a name to vote for, you know, it's someone a little bit more recognizable.
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Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of other than Barnaby. You know, there's not a lot of people. Well Pauline stands head and shoulders above the rest of Yeah, but there are no other names within the party. So Corey Bernardi and when you hear him speak, he speaks well, he's eloquent, he knows his subject, he's passionate. It might be enough to make people go well, I might give them another look. Yeah, yeah, interesting times.
01:56:54
Speaker 26: It is very interesting times.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully you get one or the other one, maybe both, I hope so.
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Speaker 26: And then of course it's Turkey Tuesday as well, so nominating turkeys this afternoon for some turkey, flat vineyards, wine.
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Speaker 1: Gee, where do you start? Say thank you? Stacey Lee coming up this afternoon after one o'clock. Yeah, hopefully she Corral's Cory or Corral's Pauline Hanson. That would be rather good. Well, tomorrow on the show, we'll have AMP Chief economist Shane Oliver on to discuss the RBA's decision this afternoon, and the Services Australia General Manager Hank young And is going to be taking your calls, So get ready with your calls for Hank Young And I know it's a very popular segment and we love having Hank young And on with Services Australia issues because he is a very kind and compassionate man. He knows who subject, he knows his brief and we always get a flood of calls, so be prepared for that. On eight double two three double o double oh is the number to ring from the text line. Way more rivalers. Taxis are a big hit. Why shouldn't they be here in Australia? Hi gg the failed hydrogen scheme, the wireles, steel works debarkle. Someone needs to ask what it costs taxpayers. Also hospital ramping. This Maley government is failing to give detail on Thank you for that, Brian. Well, we will be putting all those sorts of questions to the Premier and all being well, we will get him on the show. In fact, I'm sure he will come on the show as we get closer to the election. Hi the Campbelltown Council truck just went by with honesty, honestly a couple of small branches in the back. Yet the big bows from around the end of December is still around and they want to get more funding and charge commuters for a hall and a new office for themselves. When no service is ever given a waste of money and has been told it will be hired to certain individuals privately for private get togethers, not occasions, just to make money for themselves. Ridiculous. Thank you for that. Gg. I like Melanascus. I think he's done a reasonable job running the state. I've even come to like Tom Kitson Turtus, but I'm not. But I'm going to vote for One Nation in the upcoming election to send a message to the government, both state and federal, to show them they might need to listen to us as standards that we are not happy with the direction we're heading now. Peter, that is interesting. That is effectively a protest voter, and that often happens when you get a government and incumbent government is doing pretty well and looking like they'll be unchallenged. You get people swinging voters and they say, look, we're going to put a rocket under them. We're going to let them know that, you know, we want them to do better. So will One Nation get protest voters from southas strata? I'd like to know your thoughts, Steve. Good morning, Graham. How are you good things, buddy?
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Speaker 19: I'll make it quick.
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Speaker 27: I want to raise a subject which I've been dwelling over for some time. I own a fairly large business. Sometime back there was a grace you and cry nationally about the government suggesting they we're going to tax realized assets in our superfunds. But what I've got to what I've got to tell you is that the Melanoskis government is already taxing unrealized assets, so the value of general values property and from their land tax is set. So my company's property value went up twenty percent. That twenty percent generated a thirty seven percent increase in land tax, which amounted to over one thousand dollars a week for my business. And what I've got to say is that that property is still the same property. We still work from it. It doesn't earn us any extra money. It's just the place we work from. And if Melanoskus thinks that businesses can suffer those sort of increases annually thirty seven percent, we went from under one hundred thousand to one hundred and forty odd thousand dollars, and it's an impost on business. And you know, one really hurts when we hear Peter saying that South Australia was judged as the best state to do business in.
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Speaker 8: Well, I've got news.
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Speaker 27: It's not easy. It's hard, and if we're going to keep having annual reviews like that, it's going to get.
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Speaker 8: Harder and harder.
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Speaker 1: Steve. Thanks for your input. Let's hope the government is listening. Well, that's it for today, folks. Thanks so much for your company. We'll be back tomorrow and do it again.
