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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the show. This Friday, twenty fourth day of April, Well tomorrow is Anzac Day, a day that Australian's paused not just to remember history, but to honor lives, lives live fully and lost too soon and lost in service so we could have the freedoms that we have today. It began on the distant shores of Gallipoli during World War One. The spirit of Anzac a bond of mayship, endurance and selfless courage that defines the Australian and New Zealand character. It was born out of the tragedy that was Gallipoli.
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Speaker 2: Then in nineteen fifteen, my country said, Sun Mar, it's time to stop rambling, mas walk.
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Speaker 3: Soon be done.
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Speaker 2: So they gave it's in hand, and they gave me a gun, and they marched me way to the war. Under the bank.
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Speaker 4: Lad was still.
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Speaker 3: As the ship.
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Speaker 2: Pulled Awai from the key, and the midst of the chiefs, the flag waving auntis.
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Speaker 5: We sold off for.
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Speaker 1: Gali Gallipoli, where more than sixty thousand Australians lost their lives, young men, farmers, laborers, teachers, some that young they were just out of school. They stepped into a battlefield they were totally unprepared for. Many never returned. Yet from that hardship emerged the legacy of courage, makeship and quiet endurance that still defines the Anzac spirit. World War One was called the War to End all Wars, but tragically, just twenty one years later, the world was at war again. In World War II, almost forty thousand Australians were killed in a war that reached our own region, from the deserts of North Africa to the jungles of Papua New Guinea. Australian stood against tyranny, often in brutal and unforgiving conditions. The war even touched our show shows with the bombing of Darwin.
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Speaker 6: We meet her again, don't know where, don't know where, but I know we meet again some sunny day, smiling through, just.
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Speaker 7: Like you always do, till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far.
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Speaker 1: The voice of World War II via Limb. The human toll continued in the Korean War, where three hundred and forty Australians died. Then in Vietnam, around sixty and Australian served in the conflict between nineteen sixty two and seventy three. In addition to those killed, more than three thousand were wounded, where more than five hundred lives were lost, each one leading behind families, friends, and futures that would never be realized. In more recent decades, Australians observed in conflicts such as the war in Afghanistan, where forty one soldiers gave their lives. Their sacrifice reminds us that service and its cost is not confined to the distant past. Anzac Day is not about glorifying war. It's about remembering the human cost of war. It's about acknowledging the bravery it takes to serve, the grief carried by those left behind, and the responsibility we should all share to strive for peace. We remember them not as distant figures in history, but as individuals, each with a name, a story, and a life interrupted. Their legacy lives on in the values they embodied, courage in the face of fear, loyalty to one another, and resilience in the hardest of times.
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Speaker 2: Than in nineteen fifteen, my country said, sun, it's time to stop rambling. There's what to be done. So they gave me its in hand, and they gave me a gun and they marched me away to the war, and the band ride walt sing to as the ship pulled away from the king. In the midst all the chiefs the flag waving Anti.
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Speaker 5: We saved off for gal Of.
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Speaker 8: And how well I remember my terror bull day, our blood stained the sun and the water, and of how in mad hell that they called South Lobey we were butchered like lads.
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Speaker 2: Up in the slaughter. Johnny Turkey was white, and he primed himself well. He showed us with us, and he rained us with shad, and in five minutes flat he blown us all to hell, nearly blew us right back to Australia. But the band light wall seemed to them when we stopped to bury our slain, we buried doves and the turksbury.
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Speaker 5: Then we started golong.
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Speaker 1: Lest we forget Eric Bergel with the band played Waltzing Matilda. How will you commemorate Anzac Day? We'll speak with RSLSA, Northern Territory CEO Tara Bolton after the break.
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Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine, five double A on this Anzac Day Eve. From the text line, what is the name of the song that was Eric Bergel, who is a Scottish Australian who wrote and composed or composed and sang the song and the band played Waltzing Matilda. Arthur says, great Anzac Day message to open the show this morning, Graham, if only our politicians would remember the freedoms that these young people fought and died for. Lest we forget. Thank you for that. Arthur Andrews says, as a support worker, I used to visit an elderly gentleman who was an engineer in the Lancaster bombers. He would tell me stories of bombing bridges in Germany every six weeks, because that's that's how long it would take to rebuild them. He also said the most dangerous part was midair collisions with aircraft in their own formation, whilst flying high at night with no lights, in formations, and sometimes nine hundred on aircraft at a time. If you'd like to relate an Anzac story, well, I'd certainly love to hear it. Jane, good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: I just want to bring it to your attention. I was down at Inkle Farm shopping center yesterday and there were three w ladies from the local aras Cel selling badges like their were legacy ladies selling badgers for that day and we're there from nine o'clock to nearly five o'clock. A beautiful set of people came up and spoke to us and everything, and I found out that the center is charging two hundred and fifty dollars a day for us for them to be down there to sell the badges on the two days. So that's five hundred dollars taking out of what badges were sold to go to the center. And I just don't think that. I think that's very other Australians for one day in the year and that money goes to veterans and their families to support them.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's raising money for charity. So that's so how much of the charging two hundred and fifty dollars a.
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Speaker 5: Day the day?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wonder.
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Speaker 10: If the standard practice.
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Speaker 9: Sorry, the two days that they're down there, that's five hundred dollars goes to the center out of the what the lady's sold.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's really charitable, isn't it. Jane. Look, thanks for sharing that. I don't know if that is common practice. That's the Angle Farm Shopping Center.
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Speaker 10: You say, yeah, well, do.
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Speaker 1: You think it'll be an appropriate gesture that the shopping center donate that five hundred dollars to Legacy because you know, do they really need the money that much? And the money has been raised for charity?
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Speaker 9: Well, you know that's what a lot of people were thinking. How greedy is that to charge for two small tables the few badges dollar it once.
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Speaker 1: A year and when you think, I don't know what sort of money they raised, and I hope it was a lot of money. But yeah, as you say, two hundred and fifty dollars a day out of what they're raising is a pretty sizeable hit.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Well, you've got to sell that many badges to and that money what you sold, you've you've with those made their badges, their ladies have given their time, and two hundred and fifty dollars that's quite a significant amount to come out of the profits that's supposed to go to veterans and their family.
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Speaker 1: Look, Jane, thanks for sharing that with us. I think that is extortionate and I think of anyone at the Engle Farm shopping Center and management would like to give us a call and justify charging a Legacy Charity two hundred and fifty dollars a day to sell their badges there. I mean that, really, I think the least they could do is donate that money to the charity. The least they could do. What are your thoughts, folks? Eight double two three double o double is the number to ring well. Anzac Day and Adelaide is commemorated not only in the city, of course, the dawn service in the city the main one at the Australian National War Memorial, but all over the city, all over the state there are commemoration services held. Joining us now is Tara Belton, CEO of RSLSA. Tara, good morning to you.
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Speaker 12: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 13: How are you look.
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Speaker 1: I'm well, thanks. It's spent one hundred and eleven years on from that landing of Gallipoli and what Anzac Day is basically all about is the feeling just as strong as it was way back then.
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Speaker 12: I mean, I can only talk to the last few years I've directly been involved, but this year there just seems to be there is just a real vibe about this year. You know, listening to the words at the start of this segment with you, Graham, I'm hearing that resonated all around the city and the state. So I'd have to say absolutely yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean there was a fear going back not that many years, and particularly a hangover from the Vietnam days when the poor of Vietnam vets came home and were treated, you know, like enemies in their own country, which was a disgrace, and people the numbers observing Anzac Day marches dwindled, then there was a resurgence. Then younger people seem to be there, and in recent years that number continues to grow.
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Speaker 12: Yep, absolutely does. It's a great segue actually to talk about our youth vigil. So in nineteen ninety nine we started a youth vigil here in Adelaide. It kicks off the eve of ans that day, so six pm tonight, and the youth vigil includes youth reaps from all organizations such as your Scouts, Sees and the Try Services Cadets. Of course, they come along to the War Memorial here on the State at the State War Memorial and hold guard and they do that. It's quite fascinating to watch. They do that right up until six am tomorrow morning, being Anzac Day, where it is then taken over by by the crew that run the dawn service. It's quite a spectacle. So I think, you know, having things like that certainly do help raise that education piece, remind our children and about the fall, and while we commemorate this special time, which definitely creates that power of the audience.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that Anzac Day is evolving and changing over the years, because going back forty or fifty years, there were the thousands of World War One veterans and then they left us. Then World War II veterans got into their eighties and nineties and beyond they have left us, and even the Vietnam veterans and our very senior in age. So the number of those that have served in the theaters of war is diminishing, but the memories of Anzac should never diminish.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, Yet you couldn't have said it better. We do have from what we heard today, we do have up to fourteen World War Two veterans that will be in our march participating in that tomorrow, which is wonderful. And you know they are as you say, they are aging a majority over the age of one hundred. But it is such a spectacle for the spectators to see, to see them and be able to respect what they've done. It's just incredible.
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Speaker 1: Are family members able to take part in the march?
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Speaker 12: Yes, they can march in the descendants section. When it comes to the march, we do have an area on our website, so if your listeners are thinking that, perhaps they do have a link and they can if they jump onto our website, there's a banner on the front page that will take them to the Anzac Day event. In the March Guide, it really does talk to what the requirements are, how you are connected and you just turn up on the day.
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Speaker 1: With the march itself. What time does that get underway and from where?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, great question. So the march kicks off at nine thirty am just up near the War Memorial actually on North Terrace. It'll then conclude about eleven o'clock, so we have all different groups. Again, it'll be on that March Guide, so if anybody wants to jump on and have a look at that, always a good idea to print them off as well if you've got that capacity, so you can see exactly what group is coming past you and who they represent. And then from the march that concludes, we move into the Cross of Sacrifice. So the way that the four events work. We have the six pm youth visual tonight six am dawn service, which effectively it represents the funeral of the fallen. We then have the march, which represents walking from the funeral to the grave site. And then we have the Cross of Sacrifice which commences at eleven fifteen tomorrow and that represents the gathering at the grave sites of the falling. So those four events themselves are really just a very commemorative in themselves, and I.
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Speaker 1: Guess after that things lighten up a bit with celebrations all over the state, with people showing how they can be thankful to those who have given service and lost their lives.
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Speaker 12: Yep, you've got it. So we are at the conclusion of the sacrifice ceremony. We have Anzac on Torrens that is typically held at the Starnes Parade Ground two up and lots of live entertainment from there. We also have numerous big headline of sporting events happening. We've got the port Adelaide at Verstrare Long Game, We've got the Morphoville Race Day are doing an ANZAC round this year. Thunderbirds Versus Lightning are doing an Anzack round with a medal a Vivian Ballwinkle metal being awarded. And we also have this year we're lucky enough to have the World Wheelchair Rugby Championships being played at Wayville, so our Australian Steelers they've won their first game yesterday. We're hoping that they'll be in the Grand final tomorrow and that also will include a commemorative post to.
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Speaker 14: That as well.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like this something for everyone there really is. Yeah, and Tara, of course it's the only day it's legal to play two up. Are you going to take part?
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Speaker 12: Absolutely absolutely will so to up being held here at Anzac on Torrens Post that Cross the Sacrifice Commemority of service finishing. So sometime between twelve twelve thirty we'll start with two up here on our parade ground.
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Speaker 1: Tara, thanks so much for your time today, much travel, Thank you. I know that Anzac Day will be huge, There's no question about that. Perfect weather for it. Not that that stops the die hards from turning up at the door service now but a rain, hail or shine. But tomorrow it is going to be an absolute beautiful day and the dawn service is something very special. If you can't get into the city. Of course, they're all over the place. Glenell have a wonderful service Semaphore on the foreshore that is quite spectacular, Bright and Jetty, Henley Beach on the Memorial Gardens, and further from the city Gaulla Pioneer Park Claire at the World War One Memorial Gates, Gula RSL. All over the place there are Anzac Day commemorations A double two three double O double if you'd like to add to that. And one of the heights, of course is Tom Wren playing the bugle at Rosewater tomorrow. I'm reminded my producer Sam and the lovers of footy. Of course the wonderful Anzac Day match between what's Port Adelaide always hosted on Anzac Day and tomorrow they're playing John which should be a great game. I'm sure it'll be a sellout. All live here on five double A five double.
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Speaker 4: A morning with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight ten five double. A good morning to you out on the road, Matt's what's happening you?
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Speaker 15: Good morning, Miss gotting Point, Well.
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Speaker 1: Very well, thanks. My name is Graham.
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Speaker 15: I've just gone down the Sudden Expressway probably about a kilometer of the Ronella entrance heading towards the city. There's one truck in the emergency lane who has broken down. But there's another one who's in the second to left plane where it's got stopped for an angle, and that's a coot fire truck has the fires on, but it's just as you come around the bend. So I just surge anyone that's around that Ronella area just to be very careful because I was in a big group of cars and made the gem breaks on and swerving out of the way.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, good on you. So can you give us that exact location again?
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Speaker 16: Yeah?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, So if you go off patroling the road onto the Ronella of the expressway, it's about a kilometer on from there.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Thank you for that, Matt. No doubt we'll get more updates and you'll hear more in the news if it warrants it. At ten o'clock eight double two to three, double o double oh is the number to ring. How's yourubbish collection been going lately?
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Speaker 17: Well?
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Speaker 1: Apparently tens of thousands of rubbish bins across the city have been sitting uncollected for days. Apparently it's due to a shortage of drivers. Now, clean Away, which is Australia's biggest waste company, had a massive contract and they handle the rubbish for four metro councils, Charles Sturt, Port, Adelaide, Enfield and Marion. But they've run into trouble and that means rubbish is not being collected. So let's find out what is going on. The City of Charles Sturt CEO is Paul suddenly joins us Now Paul, good.
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Speaker 5: Morning, Good morning Graham, good to speak to you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you too. So this is an ongoing problem. It's been happening since last year.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, through November and December last year, Cleanaway had a lot of difficulty in collecting bins reliably big task though. One round of just our city alone is sixty thousand bins and as you know, we pick up two bins per house, so it's about one hundred and twenty thousand bins per week that need to be collected. And generally they do a good job, but certainly the back end of last year they had a lot of difficulty. A community really felt the pain and the impact of that. We had a good run earlier this year. They put some things in place to address that, and in particular that was supplementing their normal thirteen or fourteen trucks with another three for me into State that were being provided by another contractor. But then in recent weeks we've seen slippage again. Importantly, I suppose for our community, those additional trucks and drivers that have come across from into State to supplement this clean Away service are being funded by clean Away, and they're not at a cost to us.
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Speaker 1: So why the problem? Why can't they get drivers locally?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a really interesting effect that we have at the moment. We've got to obviously, as we all know, a pretty full economy.
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of projects going on.
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Speaker 18: We've got things like the stage one of the Orchest build down at the bottom of the Peninsula. We've got the tunnels project that we all know about. We're building a new hospital. We've got Essay Water who are doing an enormous infrastructure project to create sewage and water for new houses, to create housing for people, and all of these projects they take engineers, they take project managers and people like that, but they also take truck drivers and people like that. And so companies like clean Away are in a very competitive market trying to keep up with that.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a one hundred million dollar deal. So you know, when a contract is signed like that, they've got a fulfill it. You're saying that they're doing their absolute best. But have they given you a sort of a blueprint for the future that this situation will be ablecome anytime soon?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: They have. Yeah, so late last year.
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Speaker 18: It's an interesting story, and it goes to those projects that I was just mentioning, But they run a driver academy, trained up a bunch of new drivers, and then as those drivers became essentially ticketed and qualified, the vast majority of them were then.
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Speaker 5: Head hunted and for other projects across the state. So that was the.
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Speaker 18: Dilemma that they faced at the back end of last year. They've got six additional drivers I understand that are in training at the moment. They've recruited two additional experienced drivers, are about to come on board, and then they'll be running another driver academy in the coming a little while. So they've been quite proactive in trying to address it. But it's a matter of just trying to catch up. Are you getting to disposed? In addition to that is what you know, this early part of the year, we have short weeks where we've got Australia Day, we've got the Adelaide Cup day, We've had Easter, so all of those things add a little bit to the equation as well.
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Speaker 1: Are you getting any feedback from rate payers?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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Speaker 18: We are acutely aware that this is a fundamental service for a counselor to provide and to have beensmissed for a day or two or sometimes even longer is is not what we would expect and not what our community expects from us. So we're certainly very very attuned to that.
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Speaker 1: So how can you future prove it? I mean, you clean away can promise all they like, but if they're not delivering, you know, do you have to look further afield to some company that can fulfill the contract.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it is a competitive market. Our contract has another couple of years to run and then it has a potential extension after that.
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Speaker 5: So we're looking at what that means.
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Speaker 18: For us and the structure of contracts that we might run and really having on the table all of the different alternatives that might that might.
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Speaker 5: Exist to be able to actually provide this service. Reliably to our community.
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Speaker 1: On another aspect of it, I mean I've driven down roads and streets in the Charles sturd area and other suburbs matter where you've got traffic parked on both sides of the road. I wonder how, in fact some of these rubbish trucks can actually negotiate and get to the bins on the curb.
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Speaker 18: Yes, it's an increasingly difficult thing. And credit to these drivers who are working under some often some pretty onerous conditions if they're short staffed, and that might be because of unplanned absentism, sick leave of colleagues and things like that. But the complexity of driving through streets that now have large, large utes and things like that parked on them. And we're seeing much more of that now because of you know, our kids are all staying at home a few years longer, and that means more cars at each household, and so that makes it more difficult for the truck drivers as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's right where there was once one house on a property, so one set of bins. Now that can be subdivided into three properties, and therefore you've got three sets of bins.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, across the city of Charles Sturt.
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Speaker 18: Our growth has been really stable for about the last thirty years, so we grow at it just over one percent per year and that's been frankly flat for all of that period. It might spike by one hundred or so a couple of hundred homes per year every now and then, but it's been a very consistent growth pattern, so it's not as if we've seen a real rapid change in that. But the bigger change is the change in demographic that we're seeing with three four cars per household rather than traditionally you might have one and a half cars on average per household.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got a lot of rate players listening to at the moment. What would you say to them, those that have been noticing that their bins aren't being cleared as often as they should be.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Graham.
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Speaker 18: That's a really important opportunity to take, and we really do empathize with our community.
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Speaker 5: We are doing all our best, our best to deal with.
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Speaker 18: This, as is clean Away, who are really at the cold face of it. We ask that if you've been isn't collected on a particular day, you do leave it out because clean Away doing all they can to then do a catch up collection the next day to do that. We recognize it in the past, particularly the back end of last year, they weren't always able to meet that demand.
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Speaker 5: There were at times two and three days behind.
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Speaker 18: But we just asked you to be patient with us because these guys driving their trucks are doing their best.
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Speaker 1: Paul Sutton, thanks for time. See of Charlest Council. Have you been impacted? Do you live in the Charlested area. It's not only Charles Sturd at Port Adelaide Enfield Council has also been impacted, and I think Marian as well because they have contracts with clean Away and they just can't get enough drivers. From the text, Liane, I understand that the clean Away trucks have smaller capacity than the solo waste trucks, so they have more travel time due to extra dump runs. No one checked before signing contracts. Andrew says on similar vein, we had trouble in the seat and area for a month with bins not being emptied for some time up to three days. Clean Away told me about the driver shortage, which was understandable, but my gripe was that when contacting the Charlesturd council. Your call would go directly to clean away, so the council wouldn't receive those calls to log as an issue or a statistic to have an understanding of the situation. Thank you for that. If you have any more thoughts on rubbish collection. And I saw some of the other day that the suggestion that they might introduce another bin with the collection as it is that you know the red bin, the green bin, the yellow bin. Do we need any more bins? Hi Graham, I have sent the Engle Farm management a message about donating the two hundred and fifty dollars a day to Legacy. Maybe other listeners would like to do the same. Thank you Vicky. That is prompted by the fact that Legacy were set up in the Engle Farm shopping center to collect money charity for Legacy and they had to pay two hundred and fifty dollars a day to be there, which seems absolutely not in the spirit of a charity. And I think it is only reasonable the Ingle Farm donates that two hundred and fifty dollars a day when they were there for two days, that's five hundred dollars to Legacy. And as someone made the point that money they could then claim as a charitable donation. What your thoughts eight double two three double O DOUBLEO. On the subject of Anzac Day, the elderly gentleman I used to visit as a support worker who flew sorties in Lancasters over Germany during World War Two, was dedicating most of his later years taking online handwritten transcripts of sorties, locations, names, ranks, etc. And typing them into an online archive to preserve information for anyone to access in the future. Every time I visited him, he would be typing into the archive.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, it is so important that the deeds and the exploits of those who serve the country are tablet held in archives and preserve for all time. And it doesn't have to be heroic deeds, just about going about their daily duty, because as time goes, memories fade, so we need to keep these in the archive can be refreshed. And I know that I have gone into the archives to look up the history of my father and my two grandfathers who fought on the Western Front in World War One, and the information that you read there is quite remarkable. Back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings had a very good morning to you. It's three ten. I haven't told you about what else is on the show today, have I yet. We'll get around to that in the moment. Let's take a look at the stocks. The all Odds is currently done by eighteen points, ASX two hundred also done by fifteen points. Dar Jones ended the day down by one hundred and seventy nine, the Nasdaq down by two hundred nineting points. As for oil, Brent crude climbing again up to one hundred and six US dollars a barrel, West Texas crude ninety six US dollars a barrel. Gold has dropped to four six hundred and ninety two US dollars an ounce. The Aussie dollar trading currently at seventy one point three US since let's take a call on Council's Karen good morning, Oh, good.
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Speaker 14: Morning, grand Yeah, I said you're talking about the bins. Yeah, I saw the story on the Channel seven news last night. So yeah, I'm at South Pempton, which is marrying counsel and clean Away does our bins. But yeah, we've been having problems for oh at least a year, probably more than a year. Not so bad here at South Pampton, but regularly mean it happened this week. Regularly there's you know, they don't pick up one of the bins, you know, the red or it's mainly mainly story, mainly the green, the yellows thing to get missed, but they most become a day or two later. But my mum's at Edwardstown and it's just unbelievable what's going on for her, just all the time the bins are just not being collected. You're ing up clean away and of course they can't you know, do anything. You just speak to it as the phone and they sort of fob you off. I will try and get someone out, you know, blah blah blah, the same old story, because I mean I can't you know, we know that we already knew that was the problem, but you know staff and that. But yeah, hers, she's she's actually given up and just brought them in din days Monday and they may possibly come by Fridays. You're lucky. You's been going on. So it's definitely been going for at least a year, probably longer than unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty frustrating and what do you do leave. You've been out there all all week, take it inside and they turn up three days later, but you've taken it been inside well.
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Speaker 14: If you're lucky, like I said, been the head in days Monday and she's bordered in by the Friday and just given up because they haven't even come. And I mean sometimes it's been the red bin and back in the summer and the stinking hot weather, the streets just full of smelly sins and so it's just not good enough.
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Speaker 1: That certainly isn't good on you, Karen. Thanks for sharing that story with us. And the warmer weather, while we love it, there's certainly not good if you've got something stewing in your rubbish bin. John, what can you tell us?
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Speaker 19: Oh, I also live in the Marion Council and I am doing a little bit of trouble, but it's nothing to get excited about.
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Speaker 20: I might miss the.
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Speaker 19: Day here a day there. But I once knew a driver who did this job clean away, and he said, people don't realize the stress that is on our drivers. We are having to concentrate up to seven hours a day maneuvering between tight, tight passages and cars and some streets we can't even get down, and most times people park outside the bins to be collected, so the driver has to get out, get the bins around to the front of the cars, get back in, and so on and so on. And he said it just he couldn't take the stress anymore. But I'll tell you something interesting before I hang up. A lady a driver from clean Away picked up my beIN yesterday, the first time I've ever seen that. So I wonder if there's an opportunity there for more LED truck drivers.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, would you truck drivers?
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Speaker 10: A lady A lady truck driver.
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Speaker 1: There's no reason why not.
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Speaker 11: That's what I thought.
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Speaker 15: She seemed very confident too.
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Speaker 19: That gave me a smile as she passed by. So I wonder if we could look down that avenue to get more drivers.
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Speaker 1: Well, they certainly need a good on you, John, thanks for sharing that with us. Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's a male female, as long as they drive got in instruction knowing what to do. But there is an issue. And as I brought up with the council and as John brought up there, as vehicles get wider, streets get narrow, more more houses and properties per street, and cars parked on both sides of the road, and then these trucks have to try and negotiate, and at times they can't get to the bend. They have to stop the truck and get off and get out, and that wastes time. There's got to be a bit of way. Surely cases high Gram, I think they'll need to ban parking on one side of every street to allow trucks to pass. Craig says, if clean Away can't do the contract, it should be pulled up or torn up or put up for offer to a company that can. Well, that is a fair question. Clean Away, of one million dollar contract they have, they're not able to fulfill it. They're most apologetics saying they do what they can, but when they signed the contract they said they would collect the rubbish and do it as the councils have requested. They are not fulfilling that contract. Edmond, good morning, Hi.
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Speaker 21: I've heard that in the new budget the capital gains tax will be changed from fifty percent to twenty five percent. Have you heard that?
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard it confirmed. They've been speculating on changes to the capital gains tax, but I think we'll have to wait for the budget to get confirmation of exactly what they're going to do. Why what are your thoughts?
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Speaker 21: Well, have you thought about what it means really? Because if you had a unit in two thousand that you paid one hundred thousand four and today you sold it for three three thousand, well you're under this rule. They would say you made two hundred thousand, so you have to pay tax on one hundred thousand. With a new rule to twenty five percent, you would have to pay tax on one hundred and fifty thousand.
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Speaker 22: Ye.
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Speaker 21: Now, even with the present rule, most people would never survive if they had to pay the full tax. If you discuss it with people who have owned properties, say a rental property they've had I hope I'm not quoted on this. They have to make up artificial expenses such as vast improvements to the property, or they have lived otherwise, is it paid it cleanly as asked? They would end up with a tremendous loss. You would never be able to replace the property.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, I tell you what Edmund. Until the actual fact and figures come out regarding changes of capital gains tax, it's been mooted for some time what that will be. But there's no doubt that people with the investment properties will be quaking in the boots, because we don't know at this stage what that will be. But the government is trying to claw back some of its costs as it is with the NDIS. At the moment, the budget is spiraling out of control. The national debt is what close to are trillion dollars and governments in the past and the past decades seem to not worry about debt, but they are worrying to some degree at the moment. But the budget, when's it come out in May? I guess all will be revealed then, Jim, good morning.
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Speaker 11: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 23: First and foremost so Roter, thank you for playing the man play Watson Untilda by Eric Bogol And just to sort of think about things. We was on a cruise and we happened to stop up in Albany in Western.
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Speaker 20: Australia, and.
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Speaker 23: One farmer, four of his sons went to war. Now I'm not sure whether they went to Glipoli or to France, but none of them came back Graham, And it makes you wonder how lucky we are. I was born in nineteen forty five and I've never known any war player or nothing. Cantas Australia in nineteen seventy and I missed there on going to Vietnam.
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Speaker 1: You didn't know your marble didn't come out of the barrel, you didn't go to National service.
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Speaker 23: No, na no. I was twenty five at the time when I cant Australia. So but it makes you I'm so lucky and all of us are so lucky. And when you think about the song what you played, it makes you think how lucky we're all.
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Speaker 1: Most definitely no good on you, Jim, thanks for bringing that to our attention. And if wars are something that you see in the distant past and fought by your grandparents and great grandparents, think about it for a moment. If you're a parent or a grandparent and you've got teenage sons and daughters and you hear that there's a war and they're being conscripted and they have to go and fight. Youngsters that have not even really started to live their life in full just thrown on the battlefields of the world. I mean, it is a horrific suggestion, horrific thought. And the story that they tell of people hearing a knock on the door and there was someone delivering a telegram and they knew full well if people rarely got telegrams back in the day we're talking to, say, World War two, but that telegram would often carry the news that we regret to inform you that your son, name, ranks, really number was killed on the battlefield. It just beggars belief. You know, we are so lucky to be living in the time that we are living, and we must be thankful for those that fought and gave service and gave their lives for us. Anthony, says Graham. I wonder if the residents in some European countries, North and South America Africa are complaining about bin collection. What a privileged world we live in. Yes, Anthony, you're right when we put it all in perspective, complaining about bin collection. Although we have a standard of living, and you know, we aspire to have good quality of life, the lifestyle, we pay for it, There's no question about that. So if we're not getting the service that we pay for, what would you give up? You know, if to get better rubbish collection, we certainly need to get rubbish collection. We pay for it. Hi, Graham, I think they need to ban parking on one side of every street till our trucks to pass. Yea kay. There is a real issue, no question about that, and we all find it even in a car. When you go down a narrow street parking on both sides, a car is coming towards you, you often have to give way because there's not room for two cars. So how is it when you've got a big garbage truck? Craig says, if clean Away can't do the contract, it should be torn up and offered to a company that can. And regarding the Ingle Farm Shopping Center charging charities to sell their badgers, so bad if Ingle Farm Shopping Center is charging legacy I found them on Facebook and asked them, it's hard to believe. Yes, Ingle Farm, really, do you really need the money that much? That legacy were there for two days and five hundred dollars of the money that they gathered for charity to give to the victims of war and the like, five hundred dollars is gone into your pocket instead of the people that really need it. Andrew, good morning, Graham, how are you good? Thanks?
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Speaker 24: First of all thoughts to the families and servicemen and ex service men and women, to.
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Speaker 20: Very important day.
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Speaker 24: It got me thinking about their calls with the rubbish collection issue.
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Speaker 14: When we were.
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Speaker 24: Younger, we actually had men and women that jumped out of the truck and went and got the bins. So maybe we could bring back something kind of similar. But instead of having those big trucks going down the roads, you're not going to stop the congestion in the really tight suburbs now, but have a massive, big bin I guess in some area of the suburb, like.
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Speaker 1: A communal bin you reckon at the end of the street.
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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, you.
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Speaker 10: Could still have that.
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Speaker 24: You can still have the garbos doing the job, but you could have you could have smaller bins which are easily more accessible and bring back the actual garbos.
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Speaker 20: Yep, put it in, put it into the smaller trucks.
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Speaker 24: And then they just dump it in the big bin and the big bin. Big truck comes a.
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Speaker 20: Gets a big bin.
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Speaker 1: I like your thinking. Good on you, Andrew, thanks for that clean away. Should have a two man crew on trucks and those problematic access areas well. That that's a point. But if they're having trouble getting drivers because of high employment at the moment, there are just not enough people at the wannabe drivers for clean away drive garbage trucks. So how are they going to have two man trucks if they can't even get a one man truck? Your thoughts love to hear them make double two three, double o double. We've got to pause for news. Then private health rebates for the over sixty fives are set to be asked. How many older people are considering leaving private health altogether?
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Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: At ten past ten five double A short. You will talk about the likely changes to private health rebates for over sixty fives. But firstly I want to refer to an exclusive poll that's just come out in the Advertiser. It's revealed the surprise attitudes of young Aussies towards ANZAC traditions, towards war and the US Alliance. Now it appears that young Australians believe a world war will happen in the next five years, but they refuse to make any personal sacrifices to protect the nation. The survey on cofecting attitudes towards ANZAC day more young people attend boozy two up events on the day itself, compared with somber dawn services that will be remembering the sacrifices made by Australian soldiers. As many as three quarters of gen Zetas aged between fourteen and twenty nine say that a world war was imminent, but twenty six percent refused to make any personal sacrifices to protect Australia. Gen Zetters also trashed Australia's long standing alliance with the United States, with almost two thirds saying we should not follow America into war. Only one in ten young people also think Australia should spend less on defense, while seventy nine percent of baby boomers who were born in the years after the Second World War say we should be spending more. No surprise on the amount of support for compulsory national service, forty nine percent actually saying young adults should spend at least a year in defense or civil service role. Interesting. What are your thoughts on what the gen Zetas and the young people think of ANZAC Day and Australia's future defense commitments? Two three double oh is the number to ring if you'd like to comment on that. Well, it's quite disturbing to see what could possibly happen regarding Southastlandian seniors, there's talk of reducing the health rebates for over sixty fives. What impact will that have if that does come into force. The Council and the Aging SA CEO is Miranda Starkeys. She joins us now, Miranda, good morning.
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Speaker 25: To you, morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Has this sent shock waves among older people? If that hasn't it shured well, I.
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Speaker 26: Don't shock waves might be a bit too strong, but certainly there's some concern around that announcement. So the Federal Minister for Health, Mark Butler, may this a raft of announcements on Wednesday. We were very pleased, i must say, to hear his announcement that they were going to fix a problem that we've been advocating for for a while now in our age care system and so for since the new Act came in, people that need essential services in their home like showering support toileting support have had to pay a co contribution towards this, and we know that that's forced a lot of people to just have to make a hard choice not to get the support they need in their home. So we were really pleased, first of all that the government admitted that was a mistake and that that will now be fully one hundred percent government funded. So that is a very expensive change, but very necessary. And so they did announce that they were going to remove this rebate on private health for people over the age of sixty five as one way that they would help to fund this. So I guess that's some hard decisions that they've made. It definitely is going to have an impact for older people who have been really working hard to keep their private health cover going even though those costs are so expensive and their costs have been increasing. In fact, the costs of private health have really outstripped income, including pension income. But we know how and is to a lot of older people to maintain their independence. So having that rebate will be the difference of one or two dollars a day extra that many older people will have to pay. And for some that will just be just a bridge too far, and we know that they will give it up and that will mean they're in the public health system.
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Speaker 1: I know, to a lot of older people. I know what my mother was like. She said she would give up a meal a week before giving up her private health because it was that important to her.
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Speaker 26: That's right, Yeah, And we know that's the case for a lot of people. You know, having private health means that you've got peace of mind, you've got a safety net should should something happen in the future. But it's also you know, those extras that are very valuable to people, including dental and as a reminder, you know, dental is not part of Medicare still, and so a lot of people do rely on their private health insurance to be able to cover them in the need of madeor dental work.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're getting much feedback from sas seniors on how many of them are likely to drop their private health cover because of the change.
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Speaker 26: Well, I mean the federal government themselves when they made this announcement, they admit it straight off, forty four thousand older Australians are expected to immediately drop out of private health. Now, that's a huge number of people that all of a sudden will be completely drawing on the public health system. So, you know, that's disappointing to see that. I guess you know, there's a lot of cost of living pressures right now that everyone's facing. But if you're an older person and you're on a fixed income or a pension, you've really got no ability to increase your income to meet those rising costs. So it's understandable that people will be doing their numbers and saying I just can't afford to keep paying these high costs. So cost of living and health are the two biggest concerns for older South Australians. We hear that all the time, and insurance is really moving to the very top of the least now, whether it's home insurance or health insurance, along with the cost of counsel rates if you're a homeowner, then they are really the key things that are adding to your cost of living stress right now.
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Speaker 1: As you've said, they've seen is drop private health cover that is just going to put an increasing burden on the public system.
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Speaker 26: Absolutely, and it also means that people are more likely to be in long waiting lists and waiting extra long periods of time to be able to get whether it's elective surgery or you know, the treatment that they might not have to wait as long for if they were able to stay in the private health system. You know, it's very important to all of us that were able to stay independent as we as we get older, and having private health is one way that we can do that.
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Speaker 25: So definitely.
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Speaker 26: You know, some people will hang on in there and be able to afford to keep it and others won't.
00:47:58
Speaker 1: Now, the government says this helps fund better age care for future generations, but is it fair to ask pensioners to pay for it.
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Speaker 26: That's the trade off that I mentioned in terms of the government correcting that wrong of and making sure that those essential in home age care services like showering and toileting support will now be one hundred percent government funded. So that is definitely the priority that we have seen as counsel and the aging We know from a lot of older people, we know from advocates, we know from age care providers, we know from our state health system that everyone agrees that that was wrong and that that should never have been passed on as a cost to older people. So I think that that has to be the priority that they've fixed that. I believe that adding that into sorry, making that one hundred percent government funded, has something like doubled the cost of that age care system for support at home, So you can understand it's a large extra bucket of they've had to find savings from in other parts, so you know, they've had to make some tough decisions. They won't all be popular decisions, that's for sure, and they certainly will have an impact on people on low incomes that couldn't afford to pay without that subsidy.
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Speaker 1: What advice would you have for older Salvestradians? What should they do right now about their private health insurance?
00:49:27
Speaker 26: Look, I think you know this is the time to be looking at your private health if you have it, making sure you're not paying for anything that you don't need in your premium, comparing options to see if there's a cheaper option somewhere else. Maybe you know, maybe it's not appropriate to be able to stay on that top tier that you've been used to it, or you can reduce your excess that those types of things. The other thing that we would encourage all older South Australians to do is to look at what concessions might you be eligible for now that you're not accessing and calling the SA Government Concessions Hotline is a really good place to start. They're extremely helpful the team there in listening to your situation and helping you register for concessions that you might not be getting at the moment. The Senior's card eligibility will be expanding soon thanks to an election promise that the Malanowskis government made. So if you're an older person, if you're over sixty and you're working more than twenty hours a week, you will be eligible very soon for the Senior's Card and that brings me a range of benefits like free public transport, but also you're able to defer payment of your counsel rates if you're a Senior's Card holder. So there's a whole range of benefits that come with Senior's Card that people may not even be aware of that they should get on top of so that they can help the managed cost of living.
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Speaker 1: Right now, Miranda, thanks so much for your insights. Council of Aging SA CEO, Miranda Starkey, And what are your thoughts? Are you considering are you in that plus sixty five age group? Are you considering or forced to cut back on your private health insurance going on to a lower tier or are you considering eliminating it all together? Like to know your thoughts. Eight double two three double o double the number of the ring five double A Mornings with Graham, goodings and a very good morning to you. I think it's time to take some calls Sandra, you've got some thoughts on the cost of health insurance.
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Speaker 21: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 13: I have more than thought.
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Speaker 1: Tell us.
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Speaker 13: I have taught one diabetes along with many thousand other people in Australia. It is a very expensive condition to deal with and the big one is a ten thousand dollars pumps that we need to replace every four years. It is covered on the top cover of health insurance, so we have to be on the top cover. We can't go any lot, or I think a couple of companies do. But they extend the payment time out with the warranty time out for five years, which means we're twelve months without a warranty. And if something goes wrong, bad luck, I know. So I'm damned if I do or damned if I don't. I'm already paying four hundred dollars a month to get covered because we need the dietists. We need dentists regularly, we need divts, educators, all these other artillery people that you can claim on private hills, busiotherapy sometimes also and exercise, you know whatever. So I cannot afford to give it up, and I cannot afford to pay it.
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Speaker 1: What are you going to do.
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Speaker 21: I don't know.
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Speaker 13: I wait and see the details. I'm hoping they reverse the decision or if they make some illnesses you know, not included in that, because it's just impossible. I mean, the count is only one. We've got a whole heat of accessories for the pump that we've got to pay for us and I cost me one hundred dollars a month for medication. It's just, you know, it's just goes on and on and on.
00:53:14
Speaker 10: Of what we have to pay.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll, yeah, we'll find out in the budget exactly what is going to happen. Sandra. We have the Federal Health Miness to mark about that regularly on the show, So stay listening, and the next time we have him on, you can call up or we'll put that question to him, because I think he is a fair man and he's already changed some aspects of health spending in certain areas, and yours seems to be a legitimate one that needs to be looked at and singled out. Thanks to call Eric, good morning.
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Speaker 27: Good morning, I Zed and I liven Fuster mid nineteen sixty seven started working the Health services on the mid eighth, nineteen sixty seven, retailing in December nineteen Through all that time of paid private health yeah nineteen to one of hospital had a constelectomy not there a nice man as an adult. The next time I was in hospital was in March this year when I had spinal surgery that cost me over fifteen thousand dollars including my health partner's refunds, and I reduced to get a five hundred dollar access on my hospital care. So I've paid that twice. But because I had a caller uscuy a few years ago. So all that time I've been paying private health care and now closer toy to two than AMTY seventy two. The rebate has been very beneficial and back in nineteen twenty twenty three then Labor Governments put out a tender or an investigation which said that the health the healthcare for subsidy for elder Australians was in fact cost beneficial to the government that fifteen thousand dollars I spent in just recently where I've been on the government on not on me. If if I earn that, I don't understand that. The other thing is in regard to seniors with elderly care. I've got a friend of work who's elder father is a demnsing process and is in a residential care. He now has to be re moved to a secure mental health the residential care for the mening patients in the private sector, it has to find six hundred and fifty thousand dollars to get in there. And in all my time, since since nineteen sixty seven there's been a labor government. They're the ones that are responsible for the health care cituation we have today. They've been empowered for what at least forty five years of these nearly sixty years that I have been here, and they closed the elderly care units at Whole Crest and Gwenside and now the elderly certainly the mess of people in Shelodians who are who have got an aggressive component to their disability of having to find private places. Why is there not still public health facilities for the elderly who need the main subseitment that's you know, it just seems ridiculous that we pay this all the time and every time we're tele then the other thing, of course there is there is a young man I was paying even the children. I didn't have a great expense on the public health.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so you poured in a lot of money over the years, no question about that. Eric, Thanks for you called. I think one more before news headlines. Nick, good morning, Good.
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Speaker 22: Morning Graham guy. I want to comment that they're short of drivers. I drive the tracks and buses all my life for fifty years in Australian and I retired, or one year ago. I just retired and I got on the pension. But I'm still strong and I like to drive. But if I do that, Gran, the people you call government run the country, that I want to attack your half, which makes me not worth it to go drive.
00:57:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's it. You're qualify for the pension. But if you work beyond a certain time, they take a huge slice of your income.
00:57:09
Speaker 3: And that that's.
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Speaker 22: It's my wife's good. A little part time job that take two hundred dollars from hair huh, and also that I get two hundred dollars from me. Yeah, because you've got any job. And I said give it up, and she said no. If I do that, I've got nothing to do for Look.
00:57:27
Speaker 1: You make a good point that there's no question about that. And we've talked about this before other countries like New Zealand, you can go into retirement, get your pension because you've earned it throughout your life, and get and get a job and you'll keep most of your income. Here in Australia we seem to think that, well, you've got the pension, you've got a job, now you're going to pay huge amounts of tax. It doesn't make a lot of sense, seeing we need more and more workers and there are lots of people of retirement age who would be only too willing to come out of retirement and do a job as long as they got a reasonable amount of money for it and didn't pay more than fifty percent of their income in tact. What are your thoughts? Love to hear.
00:58:01
Speaker 4: Them five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven to eleven and five double A on this Anzac Day Eve. Well, so much negative news about it. It's always nice when a light and bright, happy story comes about. There's a national South Australia recognition today with two twenty twenty six Australian Book Industry Award nominations, which is great news. Little Book Press is published by the publishing arm of the not for profit raising Literacy Australia CEO is Kate Ellis you joined us now, Kate, goodbody.
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Speaker 25: There, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Lovely to speak to you and to you now this is really good. It's brought to smile them a face because for a start books too many kids these days have got their face buried in iPads and smartphones and so forth. To hear that books are being pushed front and Santa most and they're out of South Australia, tell us about it.
00:58:55
Speaker 17: Yeah, it is a really exciting story on two fronts that you know, tiny little South Australian charity started right here in Adelaide, decided to set up our publishing arms so we could make sure that every child had access to great quality books, and just ten years later being recognized with a shortlisting for Children's Publisher of the Year, alongside international giants of publishing like Penguin and Alan Unwin and Hardi Grant. So you know, it's wonderful recognition for the hard work that's gone in here. But also, as you said, it's nice just to celebrate children's books and trying to create a lifelong love of learning and of reading, but also just something for parents and children to bond Over and just celebrate that magic of different stories, great stories and Australian stories. It's just really nice that the team here have been recognized for their hard work a cross.
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Speaker 1: So take us back. What's the history of Raising Literacy Frustratia. It seems like you're trying to go against the tide.
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Speaker 17: Well, the history is actually some time ago. It was started through the inaugural CEO, Sue Hill and working with Melvin Mansell at the Advertiser Warning to make sure that we push to improve children's literacy levels. And it started some of your listeners might recall there was a big book club that used to feature in the Advertiser. Well then they decided to start the Little Big Book Club, which is what became Raising Literacy Australia. So it was it was started to celebrate and because parents would often say I know that I should be reading to my child, but I don't really know what I should be reading, what's quality, what's not. So it was started to not just give people access to books, but to give parents access to information and support as well.
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Speaker 25: And now of course we.
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Speaker 17: Publish books ourselves and we make sure that every baby born in South Australia gets a pack of our books free, that every preschooler in South Australia gets a pack of our books free, because we know that books are one way that we can give every child the opportunity to learn and prosper, and it's something that everybody should have, regardless of their background. And we're just delighted that we get to make beautiful, magical stories and get to hand them out to children across South Australia and increasingly across Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's so exciting on one hand, a bit sad on the other hand because when you were growing up, when I was growing up, we probably didn't have any other distractions and books were central to your life. I mean, my parents read to me, you know, you know I read to my kids, and all of a sudden, we have these distractions which are all bright and shiny and terrific, but it gets away from there's nothing like sitting down with a young child and reading a book to them. I mean, I still my daughter, who is now in our mid thirties, we talk about the Far Away Tree and the Wishing Chair absolutely and how she loved and I think all my kids love those stories and different stories, and even now I get a chill down the spine thinking of reading to them. You know, it forms a bond that I don't think any other sort of form of contact can bring.
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Speaker 25: I absolutely agree with you.
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Speaker 17: I was one of those kids who used to hide a torch under the covers, so when I was meant to be sly, but I'd be sitting because I needed to find out what happened next. I needed to be a part of the story. And I still often when I'm dropping my children at primary school, there is a little girl who often walks to school reading her book, and it just makes me smile every day because what we do know is that not every child is going to travel the world, not every child is going to become an astronaut or a rock star, but every child can experience those stories and can feel those emotions in the pages of books, and it is such a magical gift that we can give to young people. You're quite right, Sadly, too many people sit staring at screens, looking at mindless YouTube videos or the like that we should just celebrate that there is something really special that everyone can enjoy, and the reason that we are not for profit and a charity is because we want to make sure that that is universal. Everybody can have access to that before they start school and start developing those skills early language development, literacy development, but also the emotional bonds that come with.
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Speaker 25: Something really wonderful.
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Speaker 17: And to have the work that's been happening here in South Australia recognized with these shortlistings at a national level.
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Speaker 25: It's really exciting. It's like the Oscars for books here.
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Speaker 13: So.
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Speaker 17: You know it is a really great South Australian success story. And you know people have worked really hard for ten years on Little Book Press, for twenty years raising literacy Australia and it's just a it to lots of hard workings out Australians behind the scenes who are making sure that we're leaders in this really important field.
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Speaker 1: So you've taken on the giants and are likely to win.
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Speaker 25: What makes I'm not sure we're calling that one yet great, Well.
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Speaker 1: I'm calling it. I'd love to see it. But what makes Little Book Press so unique?
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Speaker 25: Well, I think it's about a commitment to quality.
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Speaker 17: It's about making sure that we invest in great Australian authors and great Australian illustrators, that we have stories that capture children's imaginations that we have a variety there. I mean, one of the reasons I suspect that this shortlisting has occurred this year is that we are over represented when it comes to awards. We make sure that we have a focus on quality at all times. So this year we have one of our books is shortlisted for the Children's Book Council of Australia Picture Book of the Year.
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Speaker 25: We have this.
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Speaker 17: Amazing event which is coming up in about a month's time.
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Speaker 25: They call it. It's called National Simultaneous Story.
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Speaker 17: Time and some of your listeners might know from their children or grandchildren. So what happens is one book is selected and schools across Australia, libraries across Australia, childcare centers across Australia all read the same book at the same time.
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Speaker 25: And we are so over the moon.
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Speaker 17: That this year the book that will be read over two million children will be read is one of our books from Little Book Press. So that's a really big achievement for a little not for profit in South Australian publishing house. And we've just had a number of those successes that have built up and you know, We're not expecting to take home every award, but it is really nice to just celebrate some recognition for the work that we do, which you know is driven by children's best interests, not by profits.
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Speaker 25: So it's nice to be up there with the big guys.
01:05:56
Speaker 1: Certainly, you're pretty well answered my next question. I was about to say, how do you measure success beyond the wards? But I think you've already told us.
01:06:03
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:06:04
Speaker 17: Well, I think it's also we're really lucky we get to measure success when the feedback that we get from parents and children when they receive our free book packs is you know, we love hearing about which stories really resonated. One of the programs that we run is called our Read to Me program, and every single child in foster care in out of home care in South Australia gets a pack of our books every three months, delivered to wherever their new home is. And the feedback we get from those children who for a variety of reasons, have been taken away from their parents, sometimes with nothing but the clothes they're wearing at the time, that they feel valued and that they get a chance to read amazing books and to have something that belongs to them. You know, that's how we measure our success. We just think it's something really special that we can offer to every child across South Australia, and we're growing and expanding our programs into other states and territories as well, which you know, as you said in the opening, there's so much bad news around that if we can just make sure that every child has that little bit of magic and that little bit of wonder, then I think that's a great service to.
01:07:14
Speaker 25: Be able to provide.
01:07:15
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Keep up raising literacy Australian. You're doing a fabulous job. We miss you on the board at the otherlaid football color muscle.
01:07:22
Speaker 25: I know, go Crows. Don't worry. I'm I'm still there with you in spirit.
01:07:26
Speaker 17: I am absolutely still following the footy and well it's funny, Graham, but no longer being on the board, no longer wearing my suit to every game, getting to experience watching the Crows on the hill with the family. We're real footy fans and no I do miss you all, but you know, as we know, we can't all be everywhere at the same time.
01:07:50
Speaker 1: We're doing asational job at the moment.
01:07:52
Speaker 25: Thank you so much, Graham, I'll leave the crows in your capable hands.
01:07:56
Speaker 1: Great to chat, Thanks ky you two. Thanks Graham, it's raising literacy. I'll stay at A CEO and former board member of the Adelade Football Club and of course a distinguished member of the Labour Party government. Kate ellis a really decent human being. Always great to chat with her. Always leave conversation with Kate with a smile on your face.
01:08:18
Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:08:21
Speaker 1: Thirteen two eleven, five double A And let's take a call David. Good morning.
01:08:26
Speaker 27: Oh hello Graham.
01:08:27
Speaker 28: Yeah, you're talking about health fund.
01:08:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:08:29
Speaker 28: I nearly always swap health fund companies every one or two years. That saved me heat some money. Invariably, when you do a change over, your old company will bring you up and saying, oh why are you leaving?
01:08:43
Speaker 14: Why are you leaving?
01:08:44
Speaker 15: And ill?
01:08:44
Speaker 28: Then they'll say a week in match that or we'll give you swim up free cover. So over the last few years I said a spot between Buddy Health Partners, Booper and.
01:08:55
Speaker 11: All the others.
01:08:56
Speaker 28: But a lot of my friends are very loyal to their health fund, a lot more loyal than with electricity or insurance.
01:09:04
Speaker 1: Well, loyalty is all well and good, but you've got to be rewarded for your loyalty.
01:09:08
Speaker 28: Surely, if you're not, that's the problem, but you know it. Really, I just advise them all to do a swap or try and put a swap in order, and I invariably your health fund will come back with a better offer.
01:09:23
Speaker 1: Good advice, David. Now, do you if you do change, do you have to serve as sort of a qualifying period before you can make a claim?
01:09:30
Speaker 28: No, swapped straight over. If you've had consistent you know, full health covers carried over and you're qualified for all your special requirements. The trick is, though, gram is to check apples for apples, because you know one might cut out like physio or diabetes or something like that. So you really have to be careful when to check that apples for apples.
01:09:56
Speaker 1: That's great advice, David. Thanks for that. Yeah, that's right. If you want to if you think considering changing, you want to make sure that the things that you want the new company offers. Excuse me, losing the voice, which is not a good thing in this business, boka, if I was a bricklayer. Thank you for that, David. We've got a double pass to give away to the State Opera of South Australia's production of cinder Rabba. It's playing four shows only at the Majesty's Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from Stateopera dot com dot au. For the best caller of the morning, Well they're calling it Adelaide's Cutest Race Day. What is it? Well, we're now about to find out. Pause for Change Founder director Anni Leo joins us. Any, good morning to you, Good morning Graham, how are you. I'm very well. Thanks. I think that there's the giveaway there.
01:10:46
Speaker 3: Pause.
01:10:47
Speaker 1: What is the Cutest Race Day all about?
01:10:50
Speaker 25: Exactly? It is a bit of a giveaway.
01:10:53
Speaker 29: So we're talking about the Canine Cup, which started about eight years ago now, I think, And it was originally an alternative to a traditional race day such as Adelaide Cup. But it was an animal friendly alternative and it involves a lot of very cute, chaotic but adorable doggy fun runs that are presented up on the big screen and guests can enjoy a traditional lunch day and enjoy all the other cute chaos that comes along with it.
01:11:24
Speaker 1: So is there only live racing or is it all on the big screen.
01:11:27
Speaker 29: It's on the big screen. It has been, so the races are actually pre recorded, and so they're pre recorded and dogs can you know, sort of trot run, you know, they're bribed with you know, chicken nuggets and all sorts of things to run from one owner to another. So there's no sort of you know, coercion or control and that's where the cuteness obviously comes in. And it's all pre recorded. The results are kept under wraps and then as we say, it's a luncheon and the final races are presented up on the big screen, you know, along with the sit down lunch and lots of other fashions on the field, prizes, giveaways. We've also got some market stalls, Palm Reader, pamp A lounge. So it's a lovely day out and it's raising funds for a good cause as well, with two local well known charities, Pause for Change and Safe Pets, Safe Families.
01:12:21
Speaker 1: And I take it there's no betting on these races.
01:12:24
Speaker 29: No, there are sweeps, so you can you know, sort of try your luck on who you think the winner might be. But the races, when they're pre recorded, they're actually filmed three times so even the people on the day don't know outcome.
01:12:38
Speaker 1: So now when you have a race against dogs, are they sort of all the same breed, all the terriers run together, all the greyhounds run together, or is it a mixed breath.
01:12:46
Speaker 29: It's a little bit of everything. So we have pocket rockets, we've got Golden Oldies, which are the senior dogs. But we've also got a category like Rescue Run, which is open to all rescue dogs. Because obviously Pause for Change is an animal welfare charity, Safe Pet Safe Families is also a community welfare charity, and so we've got together to present the Canine Cup over the last couple of years, and this year in particular, we're raising funds for a new initiative called Safe paus Haven, which will be South Australia's first twenty four to seven emergency pet boarding facility.
01:13:26
Speaker 1: Wow our pets welcome on the day.
01:13:30
Speaker 29: The runners are so that our race stars or pop stars will be there walking the red carpet on the day. We've moved to the event from it used to be in March amongst the Mad March chaos, and this year, for the first time, we've actually moved it to May So it's on May seventeen at a wonderful dog friendly venue called Jackson Square in Heinmarsh And we've moved it because we've had lots of challenges in that March date where people are time and cash poor. But also the last two years we've been battling forty degree weather which has not been conducive to bringing pets out.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: So where's it being held? What are the details we need to know?
01:14:12
Speaker 29: So it's being held on May seventeen, It's a Sunday from twelve to four. It's at Jackson Square in hind marsh All. The details are at Canine Cup dot org so people can find all the information and tickets there. And yeah, as I say, we're raising vital funds for a new initiative called Safe Pause Haven So Safe Pets, Safe Families, great organization. They've been around for about ten years now, I think ten years or more. So they provide foster care for people escaping in a crisis, whether it's a medical emergency, domestic violence, homelessness.
01:14:50
Speaker 25: But it takes time to.
01:14:52
Speaker 29: Find a foster for those pets, and then those pets are fostered and reunited with their owners down the track but it does take time to find foster's so safe. Pause Haven is a new initiative that we're looking to launch that will be, as I say, a twenty four to seven emergency pet boarding for people who you know, they have to make the choice of leaving a situation then and there, and often they delay that choice because they have nowhere safe for their pets to go.
01:15:18
Speaker 25: And with seventy.
01:15:19
Speaker 29: Percent of the community being pet owners, it's extremely vital most certainly.
01:15:25
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure it'll be a huge day, the cutest race day on the calendar, the Canine Cup. It's great to chat. Thanks for your time.
01:15:34
Speaker 29: Today, Annie, Thanks Graham, Pleasure.
01:15:36
Speaker 1: Pause for Change founder any Leo, the race day or pets. It's up on the big screen. You can't bet on it, per se, but there are sweeps. Sounds like a lot of fun, doesn't it. Let's take a call at six minutes two eleven plead a good morning, Good morning sir, How are you good? Thanks?
01:15:55
Speaker 20: Just probably following a little bit from a comment I made yesterday about you know, talk about these discounts and reductions and so forth, but you know, how long would that the previous price before that? I know that it used to be in the clothing industry. I don't know what it is now, but some years ago you advertised a product so called discounted that it had to be at that price for the minimum of seven weeks. Now, I couldn't stand corrected on that, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Now, Why why is this not the same for all products that you've got to have, you know, instead of just jumping it up a couple of weeks before and then say you discounted that. I'm in a lot of them saying fifty percent, which we know is a straight out lie. But I mean, you know, there should be some limitation of how much time that they've been a previous price.
01:16:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a fair point. That's a fair point. If they had held at a certain price for a period of time, people would be more in the know. But if yeah, you're right, if they've done it for a week or two weeks, it seems hardly reasonable.
01:16:55
Speaker 20: Well, that's what's been happening with a certain supermarket. As we know, we're not the only ones.
01:17:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Peter. Look, let's hope that all comes out in the a trible c hearing. The calls have been before the tribunal and now it's Woolworth's turn and let's hope the customer gets their due satisfaction. Carol, good morning.
01:17:16
Speaker 23: Oh my Grahame.
01:17:17
Speaker 30: I'm not a mathematician, but I've just gone through this self calculations now as the oldest and our charge extra. Now my husband has dementia. They just cut out his day program which he needs to go from ten o'clock to three o'clock, which is two hundred and sixty dollars out of the package. So they've now taken my freedom away for one day.
01:17:46
Speaker 24: Plus.
01:17:47
Speaker 30: Now we've got to pay for these people to have a shower, which will be coming out of their pack. Each They'll be charged one hundred and fifty dollars an hour, so that it's still coming out of the package. So we are now paying for these providers to rip off us oldies with our medical benefits.
01:18:11
Speaker 10: Do you understand what I mean?
01:18:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is via the NDIS you're talking about no page care. Yeah, well I think that is a bit different regarding showering. Didn't the minister say that wouldn't be that they're.
01:18:26
Speaker 31: Changing that and they get charged dearly and it comes out of their packages. So the providers are making the money.
01:18:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I don't know the detail on that, Carol, but leave it with us and we'll get the detail and find it out for you. Eight double two to three double O double O. From the text line, Harry says, call a Graham in memory of the fallen and tribute to the returned. May the march be trouble free with their mates, May every beer be enjoyed responsibly, and may every coin toss be a winner. Thank you, I can't forget. Thank you for that, Harry. A nice comment, Hi Gig. If reading is so brilliant, then how do we explain a generation of young people who have little ability to think critically? The obvious example is the so called climate emergency they all believe, which they are told is caused by carbon dioxide, a trace gas responsible for life on Earth. What's wrong? Is the young vote green? God help us all. Thank you for that, John, five double A.
01:19:26
Speaker 4: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:19:28
Speaker 1: Past eleven, five double A on this Friday morning, always a popular time when Nick hay strolls into the studio to talk about media.
01:19:35
Speaker 32: Nick, Good morning, Crime, good to see you. It's all about anzact day in the media at the moment. It's really I don't think it's surprising. I think a lot of people tend to think that this might have waned that we don't get behind going to a dawn sirs, or.
01:19:53
Speaker 1: It did for a while. It did for a while after Vietnam.
01:19:57
Speaker 32: Correct, and that was the sort of the war that you know, it was very it was heavily televised. It was the wars were fought in the living rooms as opposed to on the battle fear and in the US Australia they didn't have control of the messaging or anything like that. So media played a big role in that. And they came back as well. You know, the words like baby killers and stuff like that, really horrible, horrific things from men that just went to serve their country. And you know, for a lot of them they were National service. They have a choice, you know, they were put in there, and we treated our veterans so poorly and badly back then. But there is this surgeens the young people are really understanding it. And I loved your warm up this morning when you opened the show just with reference to it is about remembering and just honoring those that were prepared to put their hand up and go to war and fight for our values and our freedoms.
01:20:57
Speaker 1: And well, we wouldn't have what we had today and done that. I mean, who knows, we we might all be speaking Japanese. Yeah, we don't know.
01:21:06
Speaker 32: Yeah, and this is it. And I think the young people I was talking to my son this morning, and you know what, you've see it, and they're incredibly you know that they're incredibly focused and proud of our history and what it has come to be. There has been a bit of Paul enhanced and chatter around the fact that, you know, if there were for young people, as with the way that we talk about Anne zac Day and the way that we talk about our performance in history, that she's suggesting it's the way it's taught, that we're not taught to be proud of our nation, et cetera. I think that's completely different. I think that's completely wrong from her. I think that we are. I think we are very proud. And you'll see a lot of young people at dawn services tomorrow, and you'll see a lot of people celebrating not war, but celebrating the efforts and the work that people before them have done to give them the freedoms that they have today and the gift.
01:21:57
Speaker 1: Of what we have, I mean, the fact that we can but the fact that we can be upset with certain things because we have we are free to do that.
01:22:05
Speaker 32: We've got every we've got all the rights and everything like that. So I just it's really pleasing to see.
01:22:10
Speaker 3: And Anzac Day.
01:22:11
Speaker 32: One little contentious issue though, Graham, is the fact that Anzac Day does fall on a Saturday, and people are.
01:22:18
Speaker 3: Losing their holiday.
01:22:20
Speaker 32: Well not everyone's losing, though, we just live in the wrong stay and you're on holiday. So I think, look, I'm a big believer you only go on the days that Monday to Friday for it is it's and if it falls on a weekend.
01:22:33
Speaker 3: And that's just so be it.
01:22:34
Speaker 32: But that's pretty much been the only negative contention I think I can see that has been flying around about the day. But it's just beautiful just to remember, and so many from from World War One, World War II, Vietnam, there's lots of been peacekeeping Afghanistan, conflicts that have happened around the world, and conflicts we.
01:22:54
Speaker 3: Don't always know about either.
01:22:57
Speaker 32: But there is one little other negative that's running around, and that's Ben Robert Smith.
01:23:01
Speaker 3: He has been big in the media.
01:23:01
Speaker 32: This week and that has hurt I think a lot of people as to what they think about the Armed services and whether that is something to get behind, because that case is very much the front page of a lot of the mainstream mastheads around the country and we are talking very, very a lot about him.
01:23:21
Speaker 1: It is a shame that's divided the nation, those that sort of think, you know, I mean, nobody abides by a war atrocities. But what are we really talking about here? Do we know? You know, people have made up their mind. That's what annoys me more than anything. People have decided. You know, he's gilly, No, he's not. I mean, you know, let's face it, first and foremost. He is a war hero, yes, well straight, it's most highly decorated living war.
01:23:43
Speaker 32: Hero, a Victoria Cross winner. You know, you don't get those easy and then not ended out lightly. So that has been and I think it has been a battle in the media. It's so high profile. As you say, people have made up their mind. They've made up it. They've already decided as to whether he's guilty or not guilty. He needs his day in court certainly, and you know, the difference between the civil hearing and a criminal hearing.
01:24:08
Speaker 3: This is beyond reasonable doubt. This is everyone.
01:24:11
Speaker 32: You know, the civil case was it could have happened that this is a criminal case where it is. And the other issue that's happened and popped up in the media this week is the fact that four of his comrades have been given amnesty. They've been given a relief they're not going to be charged if they speak up against him. And I think that's another thing that feels a little bit rotten about all of this, is that the fact that these people, these people that he served with.
01:24:38
Speaker 3: Are going to be pretty much.
01:24:40
Speaker 32: Giving evidence against him so that they don't get charged themselves.
01:24:45
Speaker 3: Something wrong with that?
01:24:46
Speaker 5: Wrong with that correct?
01:24:47
Speaker 1: And I mean it is so difficult because it's easy, well and good to sort of say, you know that certain things shouldn't happen in more and as I say, I preface it with against atrocities at all. But who was to decide in the theater of war when you know you'll face with your life or theirs, you don't know who the enemy is, and a lot of these cases and you've got to make a decision a split second decision.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:25:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, we.
01:25:12
Speaker 32: Talk about there's obviously a report out at the moment, whether you know, children would the generation Z would get up and go to war for us if something did pop up very heavily against it. No, they don't want to. I don't think so much. It's the youth or is the worry there? I think it's the way that this case is going to play out over the next two years heavily in the media, and we're going to be looking at the way that this is all has played out, and we'll find out a lot more as it goes. But that's going to put people off joining the armed forces because again, you know, it's not that we're encouraging murderers or any kind.
01:25:49
Speaker 3: Of act like that.
01:25:50
Speaker 32: It's just that why would you put yourself in that position exactly?
01:25:54
Speaker 1: And a situation of life and death, and these decisions are made by politicians. And it's a long story, but a Vietnam veteran who I had quite a deal to, quite a lot to deal with, used to always send emails and on the bottom of the email was the line a politicians a fellow who will lay down your life for his country. I think that sums it up. All these politicians had to be on the front line, or to put their own children on the front line, they might think differently about sending a country to war.
01:26:27
Speaker 32: I don't want to harp on this too much, but being Anazac day and the fact that this, the thing that gets to me is that it's corporal Ben Robert Smith, corporal.
01:26:38
Speaker 3: I was in the army, Graham for a little while. I was a private.
01:26:42
Speaker 32: The next one up is lance corporal, and then one after that is corporal. He's not very high in the.
01:26:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a non commissioned officer.
01:26:49
Speaker 32: Yes, so where are all these officers above him that are not being charged? And that that just that's a good point, a really good point. So look to everyone, really, it's a it's an amazing day, intact data to be thinking about those that have fallen before us, and get out to your get out to your dawn services, take the kids, really, you know, get behind it. Other big things in the media. Graham obviously Trump, Iran, Israel. That's the straight up.
01:27:18
Speaker 3: Hamor's Oh my.
01:27:20
Speaker 1: Who would have thought a little little peace of the world could impact every other corner of the world.
01:27:27
Speaker 32: Yeah, can you believe it's only day fifty five. Well, it feels it feels like we've been doing this now for five months, not fifty five days now, and no end insight, and no end in sight. It's you just don't know who to believe or who to think about it. And I know we've got quite.
01:27:43
Speaker 3: A few texts last week when we were talking.
01:27:44
Speaker 32: About Donald Trump and you know a little negative towards him, and you know what about the Iranians and everything like that. But there's so much media around this that you kind of don't know who who's in charge or who's who's working what. But you know what, No, I don't think they know either. I don't think Iranians Americans actually know who they're talking to or what they're doing at the moment. It just seems like it is a complete nut of circus out there. But one positive thing this week went past the petrol station.
01:28:14
Speaker 1: What petrol's dropped? I tell the story last week I was driving along Port Road and I saw petrol at two dollars twenty five point nine, And I'm smiling to myself because I know everyone's spent two thirty plus. I fill up with a big smile on my face. It's been going down every day since then. Yeah, I filled up way too.
01:28:34
Speaker 3: Soon, so well, no one knows.
01:28:37
Speaker 32: So it's that fuel security seems to have been a big part of the media this week, and a suggestion there that we've got actually more fuel now than what we did fifty five days ago.
01:28:47
Speaker 3: So something's going right.
01:28:48
Speaker 32: Something's working in the government. But I tell you what, if we don't learn a lesson from this, if we don't start becoming more self sufficient, particularly when it's fuel and energy, we need to be more fuel and energy secure.
01:29:03
Speaker 3: We should be learning from this.
01:29:04
Speaker 1: We should have learned from COVID. This is the second lesson, and if we don't learn this, time will be damn.
01:29:11
Speaker 32: Do you think do you think Graham, we will? Do you think we actually will learn from this?
01:29:15
Speaker 1: Look? Please? Yes? Please?
01:29:18
Speaker 5: Yes?
01:29:19
Speaker 1: Finally, federal budget coming up.
01:29:21
Speaker 32: Yeah, lot to make us on the federal budget at the moment, so that the treasure Jim Charmers has got a big job in front of him. And I don't think it's going to be great for us out there too. You know, we're not going to get any tax relief, will no handouts, no, and rightly, so I think we've got to do this fiscally, you know, sensible because we are in a bit of we're in a bit of bother and if we can try and avoid a recession, can try and avoid that, then you know, I hope Jim Chalmers does the right thing. I think I think the people will get behind him if he does a really fiscally responsible labor is not really renowned for that, and you know, this is probably a time you'd like a good liver government to be in charge.
01:30:01
Speaker 3: But let's hope it's a good budget for everyone.
01:30:05
Speaker 1: Nick, thanks for coming in today. Always great to chat. See you next week, mister Goodings. Nickay's from media stable back shortly.
01:30:12
Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:30:17
Speaker 1: I think past eleven five A on this Friday morning, an Zac Eve. My next guest is a man that needs no introduction to me anyway, Terry Byrne. Terry, good morning.
01:30:29
Speaker 10: To you, Good morning to you, Graham. I'm sitting here listening to your voice from Tasmania and realizing how long I've heard you on make You should work in media. You've got a good radio boy.
01:30:42
Speaker 1: Now I've got to set this up. Terry Byrne and I work together. This is not the reason for the call. I'm talking to Terry ahead of anzac Da because he's a Vietnam veteran. But let's set the scene. We work together back in Tazzy doing a comedy segment on television. Tell the viewers about it.
01:31:00
Speaker 10: It was a thing called Mick and Sid. And the problem to your listeners they need to know is you could never remember whether you were Mick or Sid. And I had to get a black Celtive pen and ride it on my overalls because we were supposed to be two workers, which you and I wouldn't work and iron lung but I had to write Mick or Sid on my phone. It still didn't work with you. You started to call me bloke and bloke Bloke has stuck for years. We don't say Terry and with a may bloke.
01:31:30
Speaker 18: Yeah.
01:31:31
Speaker 10: And and the comedy was stolen from the Two Ronnies. You used to just one go and go and line up in the queue, which two you and I'm going to the top of that one, but your producer will cut it off. But we we plagiarized stuff from two Ronnies and we were the Mick and Ship said show.
01:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Back in the days of Tasman and Television. We were on show that won a LOGI let's not forget that.
01:31:57
Speaker 10: We did win a logie. And I would your producer sometime to get you to do the Alan Searle imitation. I got you just did a gardening ad a few minutes ago. Oh yeah, do you remember Alan Searle and the.
01:32:13
Speaker 1: And I used to Alan Snail.
01:32:15
Speaker 10: I called him Alan Snlee, that's right. And you had this snail repellent which which was a brick written wrapped up in brown paper, and you said, this is how the repellent works. And you dropped the brick on the snail as a gut blew up and went on the bloody lens of the camera. It's a wonder we didn't get all sorts of complaints. The r s p c A used and used to whistle like Alan Snail to do that for me.
01:32:43
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, Now why I've got you on? You're getting me into real trouble. Terry had a very distinguished career as a paralegal and he helped me out on numerousccasions. That's a story for yet another day.
01:32:56
Speaker 10: But mathemonial law, what that one?
01:33:00
Speaker 1: You're going to get me in the strife. Again, it's your history as of Vietnam veteran. Now did your number come out of the barrel? Were you a Nashow?
01:33:09
Speaker 21: Yes?
01:33:09
Speaker 10: Mate, I was not a volunteer. I was a National serviceman. Now you remember that married lady. I'm living with Sonya, my wife in fifty two years. Sonya was a volunteer.
01:33:19
Speaker 1: Oh right, that's right, Yeah, she was original National dorshman.
01:33:21
Speaker 10: My number came out of the barrel and off I went.
01:33:26
Speaker 1: You see, mine didn't come out of the barrel, and I was absolutely terrified. It didn't come out of the barrel. And I ended up wandering through life working in radio. So you ended up in Vietnam. What was the experience as a National serviceman going to a war that you really didn't want to be part of.
01:33:45
Speaker 10: No, I've done five years in the Air Force Cadets, so everything they were teachers and recruit training, which was in Singleton, just in land from from Newcastle. Everything that they were teaching me I pretty much knew. I was then to the School of Military Engineering in Casula out near Liverpool in Sydney and we did all sorts of things like booby trap's mind warfare, explosives, all that sort of stuff. And I initially wasn't posted to Vietnam my first postings. When all the postings came out, they knew I wasn't scared of a microphone, they knew had a good projecting voice, they knew I knew most of the stuff. So they posted me back to the School of Military Engineering as an instructor, right, and which made my mum very happy because she'd done a seven day novena. The Saint Francis that I didn't go, and that's the truth. But anyway, they a few a week or so later they changed my posting and I went to Neui DApp which was the Field Force Unit as part of one Field Square on engineers. And look, there are those who've come back with all sorts of difficulties. Men myself and had lots of fun, loving mates and we were bulletproof, mate, we were we were twenty one, twenty three, it all. There's somebody else. So the experience didn't really affect me all that much. When I came home, I was single, and like a lot of return servicemen, and being in towns fall, I loved the fruit of the barley I loved a beer. I was playing in a rock band and in a folk band. I was treated with the Salmon Club. I was hitting the grog pretty bad. As I said, happens to a lot of excergement. And my mum got a real estate agentonomy and I bought an old house and started doing it up. Between that and then meeting Sonya, who put the brakes on me a bit as far as drinking went, I really haven't been affected too much when.
01:35:53
Speaker 1: It comes to a lot of Vietnam veterans though. I mean we'd look back and I was talking on the show earlier about Anzac Day and the numbers of people going to the march these days have grown over the years, which is great to see. But post Vietnam there was a really negative feeling. I mean the feelings about Australians going to war in Vietnam. And it sounds like you because you were in Townsville, you were away from them feeling. But I can tell you in major states there was really ill feeling towards those that fought in Vietnam.
01:36:22
Speaker 10: Oh look, if anybody likes to go into Google searches and look at some of those protesting marches in the late sixties early seventies, there were close on a thousand, one hundred thousand people turning up at some of the big Melbourne city marches. There was even a group of people called Save our Sons. It was a mother's group. It was Yeah, there was a lot of bad feeling. And when one of the battalions came marching through came marching through the streets, someone ran out through red paint and blood over people and were calling them bay Be killers and all this sort of stuff. Because there was the the the episode of Me Live where Richard Kayley that Americans took egn and brassed up a village, but Austrangers didn't do that. And just just to give you an example of what happened, we didn't come back on the HMAS Sydney. The engineers came back on our hercules flying from Vung Tau back in the in the Sydney and they didn't want us appearing during the daylight. So we stopped in Darwin for ages and ages and we didn't understand why, and then we found out so that we'd fly in late at night and people wouldn't see us. Wow, And I just went back to Uni, I grew me here long only feel me new. I didn't talk about Vietnam and I just got on with my life. But yeah, there are those who were who are mentally affected by by what happened to when they came home.
01:37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and this is there's the thing you hear the horror stories. I mean, it's all wars that the can impact people and they have lifelong problems with it. But Vietnam was super difficult because of the fact that there was so much anti feeling. So what is your feeling towards ANZAC Day today?
01:38:14
Speaker 10: Oh mate, I look forward to it. I'm a guest speaker down to the little regional town tomorrow, Bridport. You remember Bridport, I do. I home of the two of the famous link courses in Australia, Barn Bugle and Lost Farm. And I'm just speaker down there. And as far as your question goes, I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war. Okay, we'll mention the one hundred and eleventh anniversia. I can't believe that curly with dinniversary, I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war. Those widows and children of Afghanistan vitz who are around, because as you know, Sonya and Iron in legacy and legacy in South Australia is huge. And it's not just those who died in war, it's those who died since. And we've had the Royal Committe into suicide amongst veterans. And I've got about in legacy here a little place like Gonston, we've got about sticks. Maybe children whose fathers are afghanistand veteran have taken their own lives. It's a difficult situation. So that's what I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war, that we should be there and I think I use the words don't matter what the result of any conflict or peacekeeping force, we should always thank our veterans for a job well done. You see, Vietnam veterans copped it even from their World War two bloats, or not all of them, some of them at the RSL. So when you came back you were twenty two to twenty three, you went down the RSL. Ah, it wasn't a real war. And what's more, you're lost for the first mob to lose, and a lot of blokes have mental scars over that. Me I just told them to get off and went inside.
01:40:03
Speaker 15: The boarder beer.
01:40:04
Speaker 1: Well let's have moved on from those days, Terry.
01:40:06
Speaker 16: Yeah.
01:40:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, And that's why I'm saying, you know, we we are now faced with a VC winner who's being charged, and you know, unless people know the actual thanks of what it was like, I mean, he might be guilty, he might be innocent. But this is the problem. Man. You know, people need to thank people for their service. And I when I've got my medals on or something, I get a lot of people who I don't even know to come up and say thank you for your service.
01:40:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Terry, we've got to leave it there. Thank you so much for your time to look up that I was going to call you Blake for a second, but I saw your name written up there.
01:40:45
Speaker 10: Yeah. I do notice that they've increased the penalties for burning the flag and graffiti. Yeah, And there was a lot of graffiti. And in Tasmania, as Richard Nixon was pulling the trough out, he had a withdrawal program. And I saw some graffiti that said give Nixon time with his withdrawal program, and someone underneath that had written withdrawal is something that Nixon's father should have practiced sixty five years ago. But I know we've got to get beat.
01:41:14
Speaker 1: There for that.
01:41:15
Speaker 4: On that note, Terry Burrn go to Chat five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:41:23
Speaker 1: Five double A. If you love your food? Who doesn't be listening to Stacy Lee today just after three when Chris Jarmer from Jama's Kitchen joins her for Foody Friday thanks to Smeg and Pals? Are you building or renovating? Your first choice should be visiting the Smeg showroom at Deadney Distributors. Taste the difference with Smeg and Pals. I've been thinking lately, are we losing the battle? Is Australia becoming a little America? Particularly when it comes to language? Okay, math instead of maths, defence? The list goes on and on. I'm sure you've got some you'd like to share with us. Nigel Stark is an author, a former newspaper a man of many talents. He joins me now, Nigel, good morning to you.
01:42:05
Speaker 11: Good morning Graham.
01:42:07
Speaker 1: Are you I mean you're you're a man of words. You use the language beautifully. Does it concern you that the way Austrata seems to be slipping into more americanisms.
01:42:16
Speaker 11: The language is constantly evolving and not always such a bad thing, but I think there are some occurrencies here that I'd like to avoid if I can. And one was brought to my attention just the other day. I have a beautiful grandson, and he was playing a game, trying to show me a game with little spinning tops he plays at the school, and he thought he'd show Grandpa. Well, Grandpa was hopeless that I was just terrible. I had to apologize and so sorry, Angus, I'm not very good at this game. Never mind, Papa, he said, I converse someone else.
01:42:49
Speaker 1: Ah, I hate.
01:42:53
Speaker 11: A piece of poetry. What he's saying, he's using, he's adopting and adapting and changing versus the s us. This is a growing practice to say I can verse.
01:43:05
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of sports commentators say exactly that, you know, tomorrow night, calling that verse Geelong.
01:43:12
Speaker 11: On Sunday. In this round, it's the Crows of versus Brisbane. They're not versing Brisbane, but some people would like to think they are.
01:43:23
Speaker 1: So I mean, you say English is are constantly evolving language, but they're I mean, I love I like the day, I like you, butte and bloke and things like that. You know, are we looking like we're going to lose all these sorts of things.
01:43:36
Speaker 11: I think they're slipping away. I'm reminded when you said there about good day, and I went to a restaurant a while ago, two adults, sorry, four adults to two women, and the young waitress came up for and said hi, guys. And I just didn't really think that was appropriate. And maybe I'm a stuffy old thing, but I didn't think that was the traditional, polite, conservative way of addressing people.
01:44:01
Speaker 1: I think I've been guilty of that myself, guys, But you're you're right, Americans. It is. It is.
01:44:08
Speaker 11: And also, going way back in the nineteen nineties, we had this show on TV, the Beverly Hills nine oh two to one oh, Beverly Hills nine oh two, Sorry about the aircraft going over here by the way, noise is off, Sorry about that. And Brandon Walsh played by Jason.
01:44:31
Speaker 20: Priestley and Beverly Hills nine o two one oh.
01:44:33
Speaker 11: It's been the basketball practice and he told his parents, I'm on the team. I'm on It has been adopted here that people, young people are saying, I'm on the team, in the team, please.
01:44:45
Speaker 3: Not on exactly.
01:44:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm in the under fourteen B grade.
01:44:49
Speaker 11: Not on them exactly exactly. But that's that's crept in and you love the young chevas. Talking to the other day, we were talking about the excouters and these e bites, and I referred to the danger that older people feel the concerned when they're out walking the city. He said, yes, you've got to take it careful on the sidewalk, the sidewalk.
01:45:14
Speaker 1: What about the footpath exactly?
01:45:17
Speaker 11: On the pavements, you know.
01:45:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now it is frustrating. Why is it happening? Is it because of the influence of American television.
01:45:27
Speaker 11: Well, it's partly, I think because of all the texting going on.
01:45:31
Speaker 1: This messages.
01:45:32
Speaker 11: People don't bother about spelling correctly. You're using correct the longer forms of language. It's all as shorthand.
01:45:39
Speaker 1: Now, I tell you what texting worries me, because I think you can get into a real strife with texting. And I'm not talking about the little lols and contractions like that and WTF and all those sorts of things. I'm talking about. You you just make a sort of an idle comment, like if I said something to you like you're silly old fart. You know, I was sort of, you know, joking. It's sort of a term of endearment. But if you put that in a text and it's just cold bland, it can be taken really the wrong way.
01:46:08
Speaker 11: And if you send the text of the wrong person, which I've done.
01:46:13
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yeah, you can get into real trouble.
01:46:17
Speaker 11: Do you exactly?
01:46:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't. Do you know how many words in an English language? I mean it must be hundreds of thousands of.
01:46:27
Speaker 11: Enormous yea, we don't.
01:46:29
Speaker 1: I guess we don't use that many of them, do we? And I fear that we're using fewer and fewer as time goes by, particularly young people.
01:46:35
Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting you say it's fewer, because you're right to say fewer when you can actually enumerate something. It's fewer, not less.
01:46:43
Speaker 1: Fewer and less. That's another one of my ideas.
01:46:45
Speaker 11: Few as going away and less is taking over. Yeah, yeah, another one that's changing. To my great annoyance. I'll see a sign of the warning that a certain intersection there's going to be some road works in a little while. It's going to go interrupt you, and the sign will say use alternate routes. They mean alternative.
01:47:11
Speaker 1: Right, yes, alternative routes.
01:47:14
Speaker 11: Who is being pronounced by our sidewalk guys.
01:47:18
Speaker 3: As route route?
01:47:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's American. Definitely, you've got to take a.
01:47:24
Speaker 3: Different route, that's right.
01:47:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I tell you what. One thing that is really topic at the moment is the people that say, oh, I love Anzac cookies. I mean, seriously, seriously.
01:47:38
Speaker 11: I have I've had a greater awareness of children, the words the children are being exposed to. I've found that children are talking about candy as well instead of follies. Yeah, candy.
01:47:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we seem to be losing the grip. David's texted in along that line. If I'm at a cafe and I asked if I would like a cookie, I tell them I am, and as such I eat biscuits. Usually it results in a confused look.
01:48:05
Speaker 11: Well, well, said I guess the great reaction. I quite agree.
01:48:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think we should fight to keep our language.
01:48:14
Speaker 11: Much as we can? But look, you were talking to Terry a moment ago, and he made some points about the changing perspectives and things over the years. Well, it's a long long way to go. Now, I think it's impossible. We can't. You can't stop this tsunami of language change.
01:48:35
Speaker 20: You just can't.
01:48:36
Speaker 1: And well, I guess we're hit from all different angles, aren't we. I mean, there are so many Once upon a time and you're my day, you had a newspaper, you had some radio stations and all then television came along. Now there are so many outlets, you know, and you can walk around with a phone in your hand and you've got contact.
01:48:52
Speaker 11: With the world if you another one. Now, Terry Burns, to whom he spoke a moment ago refer to his military service, have been issued with the rifle and one of the things he would have to do is adjust the sites that suited him, his stance and position and holding of it, and his eyesight and the weapon itself. And he has to concentrate on the on the target and home hom for mother e home in on it. But people say, if they're concentrating on focusing hone in yes for November, it's actually home. But hone has almost taken over because it sort of makes sense even though it's wrong.
01:49:33
Speaker 1: Nigel just hold the lines for a moment. Michael from Greenworth as wants to have a contractor make a contribution. Michael, go ahead, Yes.
01:49:41
Speaker 16: Good morning, gentlemen, thanks for taking my quick call. Fascinating subjects.
01:49:46
Speaker 20: My query is.
01:49:47
Speaker 16: When did the contribute become contributed? That's first and secondly, please tell me the S in specific.
01:49:58
Speaker 27: Is not silent?
01:50:00
Speaker 16: Can't handle being specifically correct? Do you know what I mean? I hear as many.
01:50:06
Speaker 11: People use the word specific.
01:50:08
Speaker 20: Without the S.
01:50:10
Speaker 16: And when did contribute become contributed?
01:50:14
Speaker 1: Good on you, Michael Nigel. Any thoughts on that?
01:50:17
Speaker 11: Yes, I got that. He points to another disturbing change and I find very helpful a book I bought in London some years ago at the British Library Pronunciation Guide, the BBC Pronunciation Guide, and that would services as an authority on these matters and that would address the contribute matter. We need more of those. Ask the one and your Christmas or you're exmis stocking.
01:50:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's taking over. There's a wave of them, and I'm just thinking, as Michael was on there, contribute the defense, you know, and the basketball teams play off? What's happened to defense? They decisely contraction and extraction of words is very frustrating.
01:51:07
Speaker 11: And then we've got down the middle of the highway of multi lane road. You've got something called the median med i in but it's becoming under attack with the use of medium medium, which again sort of sounds sort of right, but it's wrong.
01:51:27
Speaker 1: And the thing is, are people mishearing it or they they think they know better.
01:51:33
Speaker 11: I think it's seen as being a bit unfashionable. To be correct in your use of language and to have a casualization of language is all part of the pattern.
01:51:46
Speaker 1: From it from the text line. Oh, it's my bugbear that our Ossie language is becoming more americanized. My pet hate is that every place that sells anything these days is called a store. It's not a store, it's a bloody shop.
01:51:59
Speaker 11: It's a shop. I'm and an other aircraft you under the flight. Yes, I live a part of down with the mobile sy it's not very good, so it's best to go outside. But you have to put up on the aircraft.
01:52:14
Speaker 20: There we are.
01:52:15
Speaker 1: That's that's the joy of living in a city like Adelaide. So yeah, you're you're a shopman, not a store man.
01:52:22
Speaker 11: Definitely, definitely a shop man. And also if I want to go to the local shops, I have my driving license with me L I, C, E and CEA, not with the se A spell check would like me to change.
01:52:38
Speaker 1: Can't you find that spell check always corrects and has the changes that see for an s or.
01:52:44
Speaker 11: Speaking of shops, trim. Do we need in this country to have Black Friday? Is it anything to do with us at all?
01:52:51
Speaker 1: Nothing at all? And what about Halloween?
01:52:54
Speaker 11: Oh well that's that is actually I think evil just playing the evil.
01:52:58
Speaker 1: That's that's taken over. I mean the kids love that as much or more than Christmas these days, they sure do. The changing times. Maybe we're just old fossils. What do you reckon?
01:53:08
Speaker 20: Well?
01:53:10
Speaker 11: I have been accused of that, and I think it's got some justification.
01:53:15
Speaker 1: Nigel's been lovely the chat. Will we'll get you on again another time. We'll talk about the books you've written, because that's fascinating in itself.
01:53:22
Speaker 11: Yes, and that's briefly. Let me just say that I do not read e books. I like books. I want a book, go to bed with a book.
01:53:31
Speaker 1: Or someone who's read my book. Nigel, great to chat. We'll do it again.
01:53:36
Speaker 11: Take care on the sidewalk, Graham.
01:53:39
Speaker 1: Nigel, start joining us on language and we'll pursue that on another time, when like your contributions on the English language and the way we speak it.
01:53:48
Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings, However.
01:53:52
Speaker 1: Minutes to twelve five double A on this Ansac day, eve getting lots of comments regarding the language. Hi, Graham. When I go to Hungry Jack's, I ask for my burger and chips. When they read it back, they say a burger and fries. I reply, if I can't have chips with my burger, I won't have anything. Thanks. Yeah, Stacy Lee? How are you? Stacy good?
01:54:16
Speaker 2: Graham?
01:54:16
Speaker 3: How are you good?
01:54:17
Speaker 1: Are you a word Nazi like I am? Do you get frustrated by people not using the language correctly? I mean we all make stuff ups and so forth, but ye, I am? Or people using americanisms that don't fit.
01:54:28
Speaker 33: Yes, this isn't an americanism, but it's a pronunciation thing that a lot of people struggle with it.
01:54:35
Speaker 34: And at the moment it's very topical. Nuclear.
01:54:38
Speaker 1: Oh, and I'll tell you what. There are some people in very high positions in government that say the nuclear philosophy yourself.
01:54:49
Speaker 3: A nuclear I mean nuclear?
01:54:51
Speaker 22: Yeah?
01:54:52
Speaker 1: Spend a moment in time out of your busy day on a high powered day as a politician, as a federal minister to learn to say new is it that really difficult?
01:55:03
Speaker 33: And the other one that kills me is particularly which people shortened to particularly particularly isn't a word?
01:55:09
Speaker 1: No, not a word? That is very frustrating that there are so many of them. We should do a list one day. Well, my guest Nigel Stark mentioned one verse Ah Colin verse Adelaide and we have people on this station in the sporting area who say verse.
01:55:28
Speaker 33: And the other one that kills me is the versing Colinwood reversing Adelaide.
01:55:32
Speaker 1: That's that's going. That's taking it to another extreme. I mean, we shouldn't be so pur dannic about it. But it's a lovely language, really, and we know it's an evolving language. It's it's going to change, but let's change gradually and keep the good parts and throw out the rubbish. And I still like gaday. I still think it's to say gaday.
01:55:53
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:55:53
Speaker 34: I don't you know people say it. I don't feel comfortable saying it. It's a bit like mate.
01:55:59
Speaker 33: I feel uncomfortable calling people mate and I don't know why.
01:56:03
Speaker 1: That's fine, But what I'm saying is the things that if you're happy with them, it's part of your language. Don't dismiss them because oh, no one's doing it anymore. Oh yeah, no, I mean it's We've got so much to be proud of in this country and language is part of it. And it's funny when you listen to old politicians. You know, someone Sir Robert means something from the forties and so how they speak and it's so different to you today. So it's an evolving language, is no question about that. But I don't want to lose the good bits.
01:56:30
Speaker 34: No, no, I agree with you.
01:56:33
Speaker 1: It's terrific. It's a terrific language.
01:56:35
Speaker 34: And well, this isn't a uverse me situation. Do we agree on this?
01:56:39
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, literally the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I'm hear verse.
01:56:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:56:46
Speaker 1: Verse is a piece of poetry. Yeah, isn't it that? I think it's something there, yea a line of poetry or something like that. Anyway, what have you got the show to though?
01:56:53
Speaker 33: This afternoon we will be talking about school zones. I received an email from a listener who was very frustrated by school zones at the moment. You know, when you're in your car and you're driving past a school and the sign says forty speed school zone on school days, during school hours or when child.
01:57:13
Speaker 34: What does that mean?
01:57:14
Speaker 33: And at the moment, some schools are back from school holidays, some schools are not. Some schools have an ash in operation, so there might be children there, but it's technically school holidays. This listener got in touch with the Transport Department, so they got a response from the Transport Department about the confusing school signs and I'll read it out this afternoon. But he was frustrated because he drives through multiple school zones every day and is confused about whether or not they're in operation because some schools are back and other schools are not.
01:57:43
Speaker 1: And another thing, you know, when children are present, does that mean like if there's a fence and there's children on the other side of the fence in the school yard, does that mean you slow up then? I mean, if that's the case, fine, but it is not clear, is it. No.
01:57:57
Speaker 33: So we'll be talking to Darren Davis from the Home Safe Foundation about that this afternoon because the foundation has some concerns about that too. Will chat federal politics with Joe Hildebrand.
01:58:08
Speaker 34: Will talk and zach Day as well.
01:58:10
Speaker 33: And I've got Robin Pryor coming on, who's a historian at Adelaide University.
01:58:14
Speaker 34: We're talking about the we all know why we commemorate.
01:58:19
Speaker 33: And zach Day, but why and zach Day and why that battle? There were so many other battles that Australian soldiers were involved in and servicemen and women that without sounding cras that we were more successful in, well we lost.
01:58:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Callippoi was an abject failure.
01:58:36
Speaker 33: Yeah, So why is that the one that was an interesting I mean, I think we've got it.
01:58:43
Speaker 1: Let's stick with it.
01:58:43
Speaker 33: It's fine, yes, of course, yeah, yeah, why, Yeah, we'll dive into that.
01:58:48
Speaker 1: So many lives were lost. It was a futile battle. It was a mistake in judgment. You know, they sent young men there to die who had insufficient training. I mean there was there was, there were no positives about it, and yet out of that was born the Anzac spirit.
01:59:02
Speaker 25: Yeah.
01:59:03
Speaker 33: So we'll delve into that this afternoon and get into the detail of that, and I think it's going to be a really interesting conversation. And then after three o'clock Chris Jarmer will join us for Foody Friday.
01:59:14
Speaker 34: He's got some sashimi on the menu this afternoon.
01:59:17
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Wow, very excited. Good only stay Stacey Lee coming up this afternoon after one. Just about time to go. But before we go, congratulations to Sander from glen Garie. She called in on the cost of medical procedures. And you have one double pass to the State Opera of Southastralia's production of Cinda Raba playing four shows only at Her Majesty Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from State Opera dot com dot AU. Well that's just about it. Thank you so much for your company today and this week. Thank you to my producer Sam Datto for making it all possible. Thank you for the listeners for contributing. And have a happy and safe weekend and make sure you commemorate Anzac Day in the best way possible. Have a great day.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the show. This Friday, twenty fourth day of April, Well tomorrow is Anzac Day, a day that Australian's paused not just to remember history, but to honor lives, lives live fully and lost too soon and lost in service so we could have the freedoms that we have today. It began on the distant shores of Gallipoli during World War One. The spirit of Anzac a bond of mayship, endurance and selfless courage that defines the Australian and New Zealand character. It was born out of the tragedy that was Gallipoli.
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Speaker 2: Then in nineteen fifteen, my country said, Sun Mar, it's time to stop rambling, mas walk.
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Speaker 3: Soon be done.
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Speaker 2: So they gave it's in hand, and they gave me a gun, and they marched me way to the war. Under the bank.
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Speaker 4: Lad was still.
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Speaker 3: As the ship.
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Speaker 2: Pulled Awai from the key, and the midst of the chiefs, the flag waving auntis.
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Speaker 5: We sold off for.
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Speaker 1: Gali Gallipoli, where more than sixty thousand Australians lost their lives, young men, farmers, laborers, teachers, some that young they were just out of school. They stepped into a battlefield they were totally unprepared for. Many never returned. Yet from that hardship emerged the legacy of courage, makeship and quiet endurance that still defines the Anzac spirit. World War One was called the War to End all Wars, but tragically, just twenty one years later, the world was at war again. In World War II, almost forty thousand Australians were killed in a war that reached our own region, from the deserts of North Africa to the jungles of Papua New Guinea. Australian stood against tyranny, often in brutal and unforgiving conditions. The war even touched our show shows with the bombing of Darwin.
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Speaker 6: We meet her again, don't know where, don't know where, but I know we meet again some sunny day, smiling through, just.
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Speaker 7: Like you always do, till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far.
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Speaker 1: The voice of World War II via Limb. The human toll continued in the Korean War, where three hundred and forty Australians died. Then in Vietnam, around sixty and Australian served in the conflict between nineteen sixty two and seventy three. In addition to those killed, more than three thousand were wounded, where more than five hundred lives were lost, each one leading behind families, friends, and futures that would never be realized. In more recent decades, Australians observed in conflicts such as the war in Afghanistan, where forty one soldiers gave their lives. Their sacrifice reminds us that service and its cost is not confined to the distant past. Anzac Day is not about glorifying war. It's about remembering the human cost of war. It's about acknowledging the bravery it takes to serve, the grief carried by those left behind, and the responsibility we should all share to strive for peace. We remember them not as distant figures in history, but as individuals, each with a name, a story, and a life interrupted. Their legacy lives on in the values they embodied, courage in the face of fear, loyalty to one another, and resilience in the hardest of times.
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Speaker 2: Than in nineteen fifteen, my country said, sun, it's time to stop rambling. There's what to be done. So they gave me its in hand, and they gave me a gun and they marched me away to the war, and the band ride walt sing to as the ship pulled away from the king. In the midst all the chiefs the flag waving Anti.
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Speaker 5: We saved off for gal Of.
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Speaker 8: And how well I remember my terror bull day, our blood stained the sun and the water, and of how in mad hell that they called South Lobey we were butchered like lads.
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Speaker 2: Up in the slaughter. Johnny Turkey was white, and he primed himself well. He showed us with us, and he rained us with shad, and in five minutes flat he blown us all to hell, nearly blew us right back to Australia. But the band light wall seemed to them when we stopped to bury our slain, we buried doves and the turksbury.
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Speaker 5: Then we started golong.
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Speaker 1: Lest we forget Eric Bergel with the band played Waltzing Matilda. How will you commemorate Anzac Day? We'll speak with RSLSA, Northern Territory CEO Tara Bolton after the break.
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Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen past nine, five double A on this Anzac Day Eve. From the text line, what is the name of the song that was Eric Bergel, who is a Scottish Australian who wrote and composed or composed and sang the song and the band played Waltzing Matilda. Arthur says, great Anzac Day message to open the show this morning, Graham, if only our politicians would remember the freedoms that these young people fought and died for. Lest we forget. Thank you for that. Arthur Andrews says, as a support worker, I used to visit an elderly gentleman who was an engineer in the Lancaster bombers. He would tell me stories of bombing bridges in Germany every six weeks, because that's that's how long it would take to rebuild them. He also said the most dangerous part was midair collisions with aircraft in their own formation, whilst flying high at night with no lights, in formations, and sometimes nine hundred on aircraft at a time. If you'd like to relate an Anzac story, well, I'd certainly love to hear it. Jane, good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: I just want to bring it to your attention. I was down at Inkle Farm shopping center yesterday and there were three w ladies from the local aras Cel selling badges like their were legacy ladies selling badgers for that day and we're there from nine o'clock to nearly five o'clock. A beautiful set of people came up and spoke to us and everything, and I found out that the center is charging two hundred and fifty dollars a day for us for them to be down there to sell the badges on the two days. So that's five hundred dollars taking out of what badges were sold to go to the center. And I just don't think that. I think that's very other Australians for one day in the year and that money goes to veterans and their families to support them.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's raising money for charity. So that's so how much of the charging two hundred and fifty dollars a.
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Speaker 5: Day the day?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wonder.
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Speaker 10: If the standard practice.
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Speaker 9: Sorry, the two days that they're down there, that's five hundred dollars goes to the center out of the what the lady's sold.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's really charitable, isn't it. Jane. Look, thanks for sharing that. I don't know if that is common practice. That's the Angle Farm Shopping Center.
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Speaker 10: You say, yeah, well, do.
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Speaker 1: You think it'll be an appropriate gesture that the shopping center donate that five hundred dollars to Legacy because you know, do they really need the money that much? And the money has been raised for charity?
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Speaker 9: Well, you know that's what a lot of people were thinking. How greedy is that to charge for two small tables the few badges dollar it once.
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Speaker 1: A year and when you think, I don't know what sort of money they raised, and I hope it was a lot of money. But yeah, as you say, two hundred and fifty dollars a day out of what they're raising is a pretty sizeable hit.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Well, you've got to sell that many badges to and that money what you sold, you've you've with those made their badges, their ladies have given their time, and two hundred and fifty dollars that's quite a significant amount to come out of the profits that's supposed to go to veterans and their family.
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Speaker 1: Look, Jane, thanks for sharing that with us. I think that is extortionate and I think of anyone at the Engle Farm shopping Center and management would like to give us a call and justify charging a Legacy Charity two hundred and fifty dollars a day to sell their badges there. I mean that, really, I think the least they could do is donate that money to the charity. The least they could do. What are your thoughts, folks? Eight double two three double o double is the number to ring well. Anzac Day and Adelaide is commemorated not only in the city, of course, the dawn service in the city the main one at the Australian National War Memorial, but all over the city, all over the state there are commemoration services held. Joining us now is Tara Belton, CEO of RSLSA. Tara, good morning to you.
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Speaker 12: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 13: How are you look.
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Speaker 1: I'm well, thanks. It's spent one hundred and eleven years on from that landing of Gallipoli and what Anzac Day is basically all about is the feeling just as strong as it was way back then.
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Speaker 12: I mean, I can only talk to the last few years I've directly been involved, but this year there just seems to be there is just a real vibe about this year. You know, listening to the words at the start of this segment with you, Graham, I'm hearing that resonated all around the city and the state. So I'd have to say absolutely yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean there was a fear going back not that many years, and particularly a hangover from the Vietnam days when the poor of Vietnam vets came home and were treated, you know, like enemies in their own country, which was a disgrace, and people the numbers observing Anzac Day marches dwindled, then there was a resurgence. Then younger people seem to be there, and in recent years that number continues to grow.
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Speaker 12: Yep, absolutely does. It's a great segue actually to talk about our youth vigil. So in nineteen ninety nine we started a youth vigil here in Adelaide. It kicks off the eve of ans that day, so six pm tonight, and the youth vigil includes youth reaps from all organizations such as your Scouts, Sees and the Try Services Cadets. Of course, they come along to the War Memorial here on the State at the State War Memorial and hold guard and they do that. It's quite fascinating to watch. They do that right up until six am tomorrow morning, being Anzac Day, where it is then taken over by by the crew that run the dawn service. It's quite a spectacle. So I think, you know, having things like that certainly do help raise that education piece, remind our children and about the fall, and while we commemorate this special time, which definitely creates that power of the audience.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that Anzac Day is evolving and changing over the years, because going back forty or fifty years, there were the thousands of World War One veterans and then they left us. Then World War II veterans got into their eighties and nineties and beyond they have left us, and even the Vietnam veterans and our very senior in age. So the number of those that have served in the theaters of war is diminishing, but the memories of Anzac should never diminish.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, Yet you couldn't have said it better. We do have from what we heard today, we do have up to fourteen World War Two veterans that will be in our march participating in that tomorrow, which is wonderful. And you know they are as you say, they are aging a majority over the age of one hundred. But it is such a spectacle for the spectators to see, to see them and be able to respect what they've done. It's just incredible.
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Speaker 1: Are family members able to take part in the march?
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Speaker 12: Yes, they can march in the descendants section. When it comes to the march, we do have an area on our website, so if your listeners are thinking that, perhaps they do have a link and they can if they jump onto our website, there's a banner on the front page that will take them to the Anzac Day event. In the March Guide, it really does talk to what the requirements are, how you are connected and you just turn up on the day.
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Speaker 1: With the march itself. What time does that get underway and from where?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, great question. So the march kicks off at nine thirty am just up near the War Memorial actually on North Terrace. It'll then conclude about eleven o'clock, so we have all different groups. Again, it'll be on that March Guide, so if anybody wants to jump on and have a look at that, always a good idea to print them off as well if you've got that capacity, so you can see exactly what group is coming past you and who they represent. And then from the march that concludes, we move into the Cross of Sacrifice. So the way that the four events work. We have the six pm youth visual tonight six am dawn service, which effectively it represents the funeral of the fallen. We then have the march, which represents walking from the funeral to the grave site. And then we have the Cross of Sacrifice which commences at eleven fifteen tomorrow and that represents the gathering at the grave sites of the falling. So those four events themselves are really just a very commemorative in themselves, and I.
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Speaker 1: Guess after that things lighten up a bit with celebrations all over the state, with people showing how they can be thankful to those who have given service and lost their lives.
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Speaker 12: Yep, you've got it. So we are at the conclusion of the sacrifice ceremony. We have Anzac on Torrens that is typically held at the Starnes Parade Ground two up and lots of live entertainment from there. We also have numerous big headline of sporting events happening. We've got the port Adelaide at Verstrare Long Game, We've got the Morphoville Race Day are doing an ANZAC round this year. Thunderbirds Versus Lightning are doing an Anzack round with a medal a Vivian Ballwinkle metal being awarded. And we also have this year we're lucky enough to have the World Wheelchair Rugby Championships being played at Wayville, so our Australian Steelers they've won their first game yesterday. We're hoping that they'll be in the Grand final tomorrow and that also will include a commemorative post to.
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Speaker 14: That as well.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like this something for everyone there really is. Yeah, and Tara, of course it's the only day it's legal to play two up. Are you going to take part?
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Speaker 12: Absolutely absolutely will so to up being held here at Anzac on Torrens Post that Cross the Sacrifice Commemority of service finishing. So sometime between twelve twelve thirty we'll start with two up here on our parade ground.
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Speaker 1: Tara, thanks so much for your time today, much travel, Thank you. I know that Anzac Day will be huge, There's no question about that. Perfect weather for it. Not that that stops the die hards from turning up at the door service now but a rain, hail or shine. But tomorrow it is going to be an absolute beautiful day and the dawn service is something very special. If you can't get into the city. Of course, they're all over the place. Glenell have a wonderful service Semaphore on the foreshore that is quite spectacular, Bright and Jetty, Henley Beach on the Memorial Gardens, and further from the city Gaulla Pioneer Park Claire at the World War One Memorial Gates, Gula RSL. All over the place there are Anzac Day commemorations A double two three double O double if you'd like to add to that. And one of the heights, of course is Tom Wren playing the bugle at Rosewater tomorrow. I'm reminded my producer Sam and the lovers of footy. Of course the wonderful Anzac Day match between what's Port Adelaide always hosted on Anzac Day and tomorrow they're playing John which should be a great game. I'm sure it'll be a sellout. All live here on five double A five double.
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Speaker 4: A morning with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight ten five double. A good morning to you out on the road, Matt's what's happening you?
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Speaker 15: Good morning, Miss gotting Point, Well.
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Speaker 1: Very well, thanks. My name is Graham.
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Speaker 15: I've just gone down the Sudden Expressway probably about a kilometer of the Ronella entrance heading towards the city. There's one truck in the emergency lane who has broken down. But there's another one who's in the second to left plane where it's got stopped for an angle, and that's a coot fire truck has the fires on, but it's just as you come around the bend. So I just surge anyone that's around that Ronella area just to be very careful because I was in a big group of cars and made the gem breaks on and swerving out of the way.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, good on you. So can you give us that exact location again?
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Speaker 16: Yeah?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, So if you go off patroling the road onto the Ronella of the expressway, it's about a kilometer on from there.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Thank you for that, Matt. No doubt we'll get more updates and you'll hear more in the news if it warrants it. At ten o'clock eight double two to three, double o double oh is the number to ring. How's yourubbish collection been going lately?
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Speaker 17: Well?
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Speaker 1: Apparently tens of thousands of rubbish bins across the city have been sitting uncollected for days. Apparently it's due to a shortage of drivers. Now, clean Away, which is Australia's biggest waste company, had a massive contract and they handle the rubbish for four metro councils, Charles Sturt, Port, Adelaide, Enfield and Marion. But they've run into trouble and that means rubbish is not being collected. So let's find out what is going on. The City of Charles Sturt CEO is Paul suddenly joins us Now Paul, good.
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Speaker 5: Morning, Good morning Graham, good to speak to you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you too. So this is an ongoing problem. It's been happening since last year.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, through November and December last year, Cleanaway had a lot of difficulty in collecting bins reliably big task though. One round of just our city alone is sixty thousand bins and as you know, we pick up two bins per house, so it's about one hundred and twenty thousand bins per week that need to be collected. And generally they do a good job, but certainly the back end of last year they had a lot of difficulty. A community really felt the pain and the impact of that. We had a good run earlier this year. They put some things in place to address that, and in particular that was supplementing their normal thirteen or fourteen trucks with another three for me into State that were being provided by another contractor. But then in recent weeks we've seen slippage again. Importantly, I suppose for our community, those additional trucks and drivers that have come across from into State to supplement this clean Away service are being funded by clean Away, and they're not at a cost to us.
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Speaker 1: So why the problem? Why can't they get drivers locally?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a really interesting effect that we have at the moment. We've got to obviously, as we all know, a pretty full economy.
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of projects going on.
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Speaker 18: We've got things like the stage one of the Orchest build down at the bottom of the Peninsula. We've got the tunnels project that we all know about. We're building a new hospital. We've got Essay Water who are doing an enormous infrastructure project to create sewage and water for new houses, to create housing for people, and all of these projects they take engineers, they take project managers and people like that, but they also take truck drivers and people like that. And so companies like clean Away are in a very competitive market trying to keep up with that.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a one hundred million dollar deal. So you know, when a contract is signed like that, they've got a fulfill it. You're saying that they're doing their absolute best. But have they given you a sort of a blueprint for the future that this situation will be ablecome anytime soon?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: They have. Yeah, so late last year.
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Speaker 18: It's an interesting story, and it goes to those projects that I was just mentioning, But they run a driver academy, trained up a bunch of new drivers, and then as those drivers became essentially ticketed and qualified, the vast majority of them were then.
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Speaker 5: Head hunted and for other projects across the state. So that was the.
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Speaker 18: Dilemma that they faced at the back end of last year. They've got six additional drivers I understand that are in training at the moment. They've recruited two additional experienced drivers, are about to come on board, and then they'll be running another driver academy in the coming a little while. So they've been quite proactive in trying to address it. But it's a matter of just trying to catch up. Are you getting to disposed? In addition to that is what you know, this early part of the year, we have short weeks where we've got Australia Day, we've got the Adelaide Cup day, We've had Easter, so all of those things add a little bit to the equation as well.
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Speaker 1: Are you getting any feedback from rate payers?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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Speaker 18: We are acutely aware that this is a fundamental service for a counselor to provide and to have beensmissed for a day or two or sometimes even longer is is not what we would expect and not what our community expects from us. So we're certainly very very attuned to that.
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Speaker 1: So how can you future prove it? I mean, you clean away can promise all they like, but if they're not delivering, you know, do you have to look further afield to some company that can fulfill the contract.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it is a competitive market. Our contract has another couple of years to run and then it has a potential extension after that.
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Speaker 5: So we're looking at what that means.
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Speaker 18: For us and the structure of contracts that we might run and really having on the table all of the different alternatives that might that might.
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Speaker 5: Exist to be able to actually provide this service. Reliably to our community.
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Speaker 1: On another aspect of it, I mean I've driven down roads and streets in the Charles sturd area and other suburbs matter where you've got traffic parked on both sides of the road. I wonder how, in fact some of these rubbish trucks can actually negotiate and get to the bins on the curb.
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Speaker 18: Yes, it's an increasingly difficult thing. And credit to these drivers who are working under some often some pretty onerous conditions if they're short staffed, and that might be because of unplanned absentism, sick leave of colleagues and things like that. But the complexity of driving through streets that now have large, large utes and things like that parked on them. And we're seeing much more of that now because of you know, our kids are all staying at home a few years longer, and that means more cars at each household, and so that makes it more difficult for the truck drivers as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's right where there was once one house on a property, so one set of bins. Now that can be subdivided into three properties, and therefore you've got three sets of bins.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, across the city of Charles Sturt.
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Speaker 18: Our growth has been really stable for about the last thirty years, so we grow at it just over one percent per year and that's been frankly flat for all of that period. It might spike by one hundred or so a couple of hundred homes per year every now and then, but it's been a very consistent growth pattern, so it's not as if we've seen a real rapid change in that. But the bigger change is the change in demographic that we're seeing with three four cars per household rather than traditionally you might have one and a half cars on average per household.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got a lot of rate players listening to at the moment. What would you say to them, those that have been noticing that their bins aren't being cleared as often as they should be.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Graham.
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Speaker 18: That's a really important opportunity to take, and we really do empathize with our community.
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Speaker 5: We are doing all our best, our best to deal with.
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Speaker 18: This, as is clean Away, who are really at the cold face of it. We ask that if you've been isn't collected on a particular day, you do leave it out because clean Away doing all they can to then do a catch up collection the next day to do that. We recognize it in the past, particularly the back end of last year, they weren't always able to meet that demand.
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Speaker 5: There were at times two and three days behind.
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Speaker 18: But we just asked you to be patient with us because these guys driving their trucks are doing their best.
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Speaker 1: Paul Sutton, thanks for time. See of Charlest Council. Have you been impacted? Do you live in the Charlested area. It's not only Charles Sturd at Port Adelaide Enfield Council has also been impacted, and I think Marian as well because they have contracts with clean Away and they just can't get enough drivers. From the text, Liane, I understand that the clean Away trucks have smaller capacity than the solo waste trucks, so they have more travel time due to extra dump runs. No one checked before signing contracts. Andrew says on similar vein, we had trouble in the seat and area for a month with bins not being emptied for some time up to three days. Clean Away told me about the driver shortage, which was understandable, but my gripe was that when contacting the Charlesturd council. Your call would go directly to clean away, so the council wouldn't receive those calls to log as an issue or a statistic to have an understanding of the situation. Thank you for that. If you have any more thoughts on rubbish collection. And I saw some of the other day that the suggestion that they might introduce another bin with the collection as it is that you know the red bin, the green bin, the yellow bin. Do we need any more bins? Hi Graham, I have sent the Engle Farm management a message about donating the two hundred and fifty dollars a day to Legacy. Maybe other listeners would like to do the same. Thank you Vicky. That is prompted by the fact that Legacy were set up in the Engle Farm shopping center to collect money charity for Legacy and they had to pay two hundred and fifty dollars a day to be there, which seems absolutely not in the spirit of a charity. And I think it is only reasonable the Ingle Farm donates that two hundred and fifty dollars a day when they were there for two days, that's five hundred dollars to Legacy. And as someone made the point that money they could then claim as a charitable donation. What your thoughts eight double two three double O DOUBLEO. On the subject of Anzac Day, the elderly gentleman I used to visit as a support worker who flew sorties in Lancasters over Germany during World War Two, was dedicating most of his later years taking online handwritten transcripts of sorties, locations, names, ranks, etc. And typing them into an online archive to preserve information for anyone to access in the future. Every time I visited him, he would be typing into the archive.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, it is so important that the deeds and the exploits of those who serve the country are tablet held in archives and preserve for all time. And it doesn't have to be heroic deeds, just about going about their daily duty, because as time goes, memories fade, so we need to keep these in the archive can be refreshed. And I know that I have gone into the archives to look up the history of my father and my two grandfathers who fought on the Western Front in World War One, and the information that you read there is quite remarkable. Back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings had a very good morning to you. It's three ten. I haven't told you about what else is on the show today, have I yet. We'll get around to that in the moment. Let's take a look at the stocks. The all Odds is currently done by eighteen points, ASX two hundred also done by fifteen points. Dar Jones ended the day down by one hundred and seventy nine, the Nasdaq down by two hundred nineting points. As for oil, Brent crude climbing again up to one hundred and six US dollars a barrel, West Texas crude ninety six US dollars a barrel. Gold has dropped to four six hundred and ninety two US dollars an ounce. The Aussie dollar trading currently at seventy one point three US since let's take a call on Council's Karen good morning, Oh, good.
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Speaker 14: Morning, grand Yeah, I said you're talking about the bins. Yeah, I saw the story on the Channel seven news last night. So yeah, I'm at South Pempton, which is marrying counsel and clean Away does our bins. But yeah, we've been having problems for oh at least a year, probably more than a year. Not so bad here at South Pampton, but regularly mean it happened this week. Regularly there's you know, they don't pick up one of the bins, you know, the red or it's mainly mainly story, mainly the green, the yellows thing to get missed, but they most become a day or two later. But my mum's at Edwardstown and it's just unbelievable what's going on for her, just all the time the bins are just not being collected. You're ing up clean away and of course they can't you know, do anything. You just speak to it as the phone and they sort of fob you off. I will try and get someone out, you know, blah blah blah, the same old story, because I mean I can't you know, we know that we already knew that was the problem, but you know staff and that. But yeah, hers, she's she's actually given up and just brought them in din days Monday and they may possibly come by Fridays. You're lucky. You's been going on. So it's definitely been going for at least a year, probably longer than unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty frustrating and what do you do leave. You've been out there all all week, take it inside and they turn up three days later, but you've taken it been inside well.
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Speaker 14: If you're lucky, like I said, been the head in days Monday and she's bordered in by the Friday and just given up because they haven't even come. And I mean sometimes it's been the red bin and back in the summer and the stinking hot weather, the streets just full of smelly sins and so it's just not good enough.
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Speaker 1: That certainly isn't good on you, Karen. Thanks for sharing that story with us. And the warmer weather, while we love it, there's certainly not good if you've got something stewing in your rubbish bin. John, what can you tell us?
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Speaker 19: Oh, I also live in the Marion Council and I am doing a little bit of trouble, but it's nothing to get excited about.
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Speaker 20: I might miss the.
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Speaker 19: Day here a day there. But I once knew a driver who did this job clean away, and he said, people don't realize the stress that is on our drivers. We are having to concentrate up to seven hours a day maneuvering between tight, tight passages and cars and some streets we can't even get down, and most times people park outside the bins to be collected, so the driver has to get out, get the bins around to the front of the cars, get back in, and so on and so on. And he said it just he couldn't take the stress anymore. But I'll tell you something interesting before I hang up. A lady a driver from clean Away picked up my beIN yesterday, the first time I've ever seen that. So I wonder if there's an opportunity there for more LED truck drivers.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, would you truck drivers?
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Speaker 10: A lady A lady truck driver.
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Speaker 1: There's no reason why not.
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Speaker 11: That's what I thought.
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Speaker 15: She seemed very confident too.
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Speaker 19: That gave me a smile as she passed by. So I wonder if we could look down that avenue to get more drivers.
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Speaker 1: Well, they certainly need a good on you, John, thanks for sharing that with us. Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's a male female, as long as they drive got in instruction knowing what to do. But there is an issue. And as I brought up with the council and as John brought up there, as vehicles get wider, streets get narrow, more more houses and properties per street, and cars parked on both sides of the road, and then these trucks have to try and negotiate, and at times they can't get to the bend. They have to stop the truck and get off and get out, and that wastes time. There's got to be a bit of way. Surely cases high Gram, I think they'll need to ban parking on one side of every street to allow trucks to pass. Craig says, if clean Away can't do the contract, it should be pulled up or torn up or put up for offer to a company that can. Well, that is a fair question. Clean Away, of one million dollar contract they have, they're not able to fulfill it. They're most apologetics saying they do what they can, but when they signed the contract they said they would collect the rubbish and do it as the councils have requested. They are not fulfilling that contract. Edmond, good morning, Hi.
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Speaker 21: I've heard that in the new budget the capital gains tax will be changed from fifty percent to twenty five percent. Have you heard that?
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard it confirmed. They've been speculating on changes to the capital gains tax, but I think we'll have to wait for the budget to get confirmation of exactly what they're going to do. Why what are your thoughts?
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Speaker 21: Well, have you thought about what it means really? Because if you had a unit in two thousand that you paid one hundred thousand four and today you sold it for three three thousand, well you're under this rule. They would say you made two hundred thousand, so you have to pay tax on one hundred thousand. With a new rule to twenty five percent, you would have to pay tax on one hundred and fifty thousand.
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Speaker 22: Ye.
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Speaker 21: Now, even with the present rule, most people would never survive if they had to pay the full tax. If you discuss it with people who have owned properties, say a rental property they've had I hope I'm not quoted on this. They have to make up artificial expenses such as vast improvements to the property, or they have lived otherwise, is it paid it cleanly as asked? They would end up with a tremendous loss. You would never be able to replace the property.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, I tell you what Edmund. Until the actual fact and figures come out regarding changes of capital gains tax, it's been mooted for some time what that will be. But there's no doubt that people with the investment properties will be quaking in the boots, because we don't know at this stage what that will be. But the government is trying to claw back some of its costs as it is with the NDIS. At the moment, the budget is spiraling out of control. The national debt is what close to are trillion dollars and governments in the past and the past decades seem to not worry about debt, but they are worrying to some degree at the moment. But the budget, when's it come out in May? I guess all will be revealed then, Jim, good morning.
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Speaker 11: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 23: First and foremost so Roter, thank you for playing the man play Watson Untilda by Eric Bogol And just to sort of think about things. We was on a cruise and we happened to stop up in Albany in Western.
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Speaker 20: Australia, and.
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Speaker 23: One farmer, four of his sons went to war. Now I'm not sure whether they went to Glipoli or to France, but none of them came back Graham, And it makes you wonder how lucky we are. I was born in nineteen forty five and I've never known any war player or nothing. Cantas Australia in nineteen seventy and I missed there on going to Vietnam.
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Speaker 1: You didn't know your marble didn't come out of the barrel, you didn't go to National service.
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Speaker 23: No, na no. I was twenty five at the time when I cant Australia. So but it makes you I'm so lucky and all of us are so lucky. And when you think about the song what you played, it makes you think how lucky we're all.
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Speaker 1: Most definitely no good on you, Jim, thanks for bringing that to our attention. And if wars are something that you see in the distant past and fought by your grandparents and great grandparents, think about it for a moment. If you're a parent or a grandparent and you've got teenage sons and daughters and you hear that there's a war and they're being conscripted and they have to go and fight. Youngsters that have not even really started to live their life in full just thrown on the battlefields of the world. I mean, it is a horrific suggestion, horrific thought. And the story that they tell of people hearing a knock on the door and there was someone delivering a telegram and they knew full well if people rarely got telegrams back in the day we're talking to, say, World War two, but that telegram would often carry the news that we regret to inform you that your son, name, ranks, really number was killed on the battlefield. It just beggars belief. You know, we are so lucky to be living in the time that we are living, and we must be thankful for those that fought and gave service and gave their lives for us. Anthony, says Graham. I wonder if the residents in some European countries, North and South America Africa are complaining about bin collection. What a privileged world we live in. Yes, Anthony, you're right when we put it all in perspective, complaining about bin collection. Although we have a standard of living, and you know, we aspire to have good quality of life, the lifestyle, we pay for it, There's no question about that. So if we're not getting the service that we pay for, what would you give up? You know, if to get better rubbish collection, we certainly need to get rubbish collection. We pay for it. Hi, Graham, I think they need to ban parking on one side of every street till our trucks to pass. Yea kay. There is a real issue, no question about that, and we all find it even in a car. When you go down a narrow street parking on both sides, a car is coming towards you, you often have to give way because there's not room for two cars. So how is it when you've got a big garbage truck? Craig says, if clean Away can't do the contract, it should be torn up and offered to a company that can. And regarding the Ingle Farm Shopping Center charging charities to sell their badgers, so bad if Ingle Farm Shopping Center is charging legacy I found them on Facebook and asked them, it's hard to believe. Yes, Ingle Farm, really, do you really need the money that much? That legacy were there for two days and five hundred dollars of the money that they gathered for charity to give to the victims of war and the like, five hundred dollars is gone into your pocket instead of the people that really need it. Andrew, good morning, Graham, how are you good? Thanks?
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Speaker 24: First of all thoughts to the families and servicemen and ex service men and women, to.
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Speaker 20: Very important day.
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Speaker 24: It got me thinking about their calls with the rubbish collection issue.
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Speaker 14: When we were.
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Speaker 24: Younger, we actually had men and women that jumped out of the truck and went and got the bins. So maybe we could bring back something kind of similar. But instead of having those big trucks going down the roads, you're not going to stop the congestion in the really tight suburbs now, but have a massive, big bin I guess in some area of the suburb, like.
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Speaker 1: A communal bin you reckon at the end of the street.
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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, you.
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Speaker 10: Could still have that.
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Speaker 24: You can still have the garbos doing the job, but you could have you could have smaller bins which are easily more accessible and bring back the actual garbos.
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Speaker 20: Yep, put it in, put it into the smaller trucks.
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Speaker 24: And then they just dump it in the big bin and the big bin. Big truck comes a.
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Speaker 20: Gets a big bin.
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Speaker 1: I like your thinking. Good on you, Andrew, thanks for that clean away. Should have a two man crew on trucks and those problematic access areas well. That that's a point. But if they're having trouble getting drivers because of high employment at the moment, there are just not enough people at the wannabe drivers for clean away drive garbage trucks. So how are they going to have two man trucks if they can't even get a one man truck? Your thoughts love to hear them make double two three, double o double. We've got to pause for news. Then private health rebates for the over sixty fives are set to be asked. How many older people are considering leaving private health altogether?
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Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: At ten past ten five double A short. You will talk about the likely changes to private health rebates for over sixty fives. But firstly I want to refer to an exclusive poll that's just come out in the Advertiser. It's revealed the surprise attitudes of young Aussies towards ANZAC traditions, towards war and the US Alliance. Now it appears that young Australians believe a world war will happen in the next five years, but they refuse to make any personal sacrifices to protect the nation. The survey on cofecting attitudes towards ANZAC day more young people attend boozy two up events on the day itself, compared with somber dawn services that will be remembering the sacrifices made by Australian soldiers. As many as three quarters of gen Zetas aged between fourteen and twenty nine say that a world war was imminent, but twenty six percent refused to make any personal sacrifices to protect Australia. Gen Zetters also trashed Australia's long standing alliance with the United States, with almost two thirds saying we should not follow America into war. Only one in ten young people also think Australia should spend less on defense, while seventy nine percent of baby boomers who were born in the years after the Second World War say we should be spending more. No surprise on the amount of support for compulsory national service, forty nine percent actually saying young adults should spend at least a year in defense or civil service role. Interesting. What are your thoughts on what the gen Zetas and the young people think of ANZAC Day and Australia's future defense commitments? Two three double oh is the number to ring if you'd like to comment on that. Well, it's quite disturbing to see what could possibly happen regarding Southastlandian seniors, there's talk of reducing the health rebates for over sixty fives. What impact will that have if that does come into force. The Council and the Aging SA CEO is Miranda Starkeys. She joins us now, Miranda, good morning.
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Speaker 25: To you, morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Has this sent shock waves among older people? If that hasn't it shured well, I.
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Speaker 26: Don't shock waves might be a bit too strong, but certainly there's some concern around that announcement. So the Federal Minister for Health, Mark Butler, may this a raft of announcements on Wednesday. We were very pleased, i must say, to hear his announcement that they were going to fix a problem that we've been advocating for for a while now in our age care system and so for since the new Act came in, people that need essential services in their home like showering support toileting support have had to pay a co contribution towards this, and we know that that's forced a lot of people to just have to make a hard choice not to get the support they need in their home. So we were really pleased, first of all that the government admitted that was a mistake and that that will now be fully one hundred percent government funded. So that is a very expensive change, but very necessary. And so they did announce that they were going to remove this rebate on private health for people over the age of sixty five as one way that they would help to fund this. So I guess that's some hard decisions that they've made. It definitely is going to have an impact for older people who have been really working hard to keep their private health cover going even though those costs are so expensive and their costs have been increasing. In fact, the costs of private health have really outstripped income, including pension income. But we know how and is to a lot of older people to maintain their independence. So having that rebate will be the difference of one or two dollars a day extra that many older people will have to pay. And for some that will just be just a bridge too far, and we know that they will give it up and that will mean they're in the public health system.
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Speaker 1: I know, to a lot of older people. I know what my mother was like. She said she would give up a meal a week before giving up her private health because it was that important to her.
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Speaker 26: That's right, Yeah, And we know that's the case for a lot of people. You know, having private health means that you've got peace of mind, you've got a safety net should should something happen in the future. But it's also you know, those extras that are very valuable to people, including dental and as a reminder, you know, dental is not part of Medicare still, and so a lot of people do rely on their private health insurance to be able to cover them in the need of madeor dental work.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're getting much feedback from sas seniors on how many of them are likely to drop their private health cover because of the change.
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Speaker 26: Well, I mean the federal government themselves when they made this announcement, they admit it straight off, forty four thousand older Australians are expected to immediately drop out of private health. Now, that's a huge number of people that all of a sudden will be completely drawing on the public health system. So, you know, that's disappointing to see that. I guess you know, there's a lot of cost of living pressures right now that everyone's facing. But if you're an older person and you're on a fixed income or a pension, you've really got no ability to increase your income to meet those rising costs. So it's understandable that people will be doing their numbers and saying I just can't afford to keep paying these high costs. So cost of living and health are the two biggest concerns for older South Australians. We hear that all the time, and insurance is really moving to the very top of the least now, whether it's home insurance or health insurance, along with the cost of counsel rates if you're a homeowner, then they are really the key things that are adding to your cost of living stress right now.
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Speaker 1: As you've said, they've seen is drop private health cover that is just going to put an increasing burden on the public system.
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Speaker 26: Absolutely, and it also means that people are more likely to be in long waiting lists and waiting extra long periods of time to be able to get whether it's elective surgery or you know, the treatment that they might not have to wait as long for if they were able to stay in the private health system. You know, it's very important to all of us that were able to stay independent as we as we get older, and having private health is one way that we can do that.
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Speaker 25: So definitely.
00:47:51
Speaker 26: You know, some people will hang on in there and be able to afford to keep it and others won't.
00:47:58
Speaker 1: Now, the government says this helps fund better age care for future generations, but is it fair to ask pensioners to pay for it.
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Speaker 26: That's the trade off that I mentioned in terms of the government correcting that wrong of and making sure that those essential in home age care services like showering and toileting support will now be one hundred percent government funded. So that is definitely the priority that we have seen as counsel and the aging We know from a lot of older people, we know from advocates, we know from age care providers, we know from our state health system that everyone agrees that that was wrong and that that should never have been passed on as a cost to older people. So I think that that has to be the priority that they've fixed that. I believe that adding that into sorry, making that one hundred percent government funded, has something like doubled the cost of that age care system for support at home, So you can understand it's a large extra bucket of they've had to find savings from in other parts, so you know, they've had to make some tough decisions. They won't all be popular decisions, that's for sure, and they certainly will have an impact on people on low incomes that couldn't afford to pay without that subsidy.
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Speaker 1: What advice would you have for older Salvestradians? What should they do right now about their private health insurance?
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Speaker 26: Look, I think you know this is the time to be looking at your private health if you have it, making sure you're not paying for anything that you don't need in your premium, comparing options to see if there's a cheaper option somewhere else. Maybe you know, maybe it's not appropriate to be able to stay on that top tier that you've been used to it, or you can reduce your excess that those types of things. The other thing that we would encourage all older South Australians to do is to look at what concessions might you be eligible for now that you're not accessing and calling the SA Government Concessions Hotline is a really good place to start. They're extremely helpful the team there in listening to your situation and helping you register for concessions that you might not be getting at the moment. The Senior's card eligibility will be expanding soon thanks to an election promise that the Malanowskis government made. So if you're an older person, if you're over sixty and you're working more than twenty hours a week, you will be eligible very soon for the Senior's Card and that brings me a range of benefits like free public transport, but also you're able to defer payment of your counsel rates if you're a Senior's Card holder. So there's a whole range of benefits that come with Senior's Card that people may not even be aware of that they should get on top of so that they can help the managed cost of living.
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Speaker 1: Right now, Miranda, thanks so much for your insights. Council of Aging SA CEO, Miranda Starkey, And what are your thoughts? Are you considering are you in that plus sixty five age group? Are you considering or forced to cut back on your private health insurance going on to a lower tier or are you considering eliminating it all together? Like to know your thoughts. Eight double two three double o double the number of the ring five double A Mornings with Graham, goodings and a very good morning to you. I think it's time to take some calls Sandra, you've got some thoughts on the cost of health insurance.
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Speaker 21: Good morning, Graham.
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Speaker 13: I have more than thought.
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Speaker 1: Tell us.
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Speaker 13: I have taught one diabetes along with many thousand other people in Australia. It is a very expensive condition to deal with and the big one is a ten thousand dollars pumps that we need to replace every four years. It is covered on the top cover of health insurance, so we have to be on the top cover. We can't go any lot, or I think a couple of companies do. But they extend the payment time out with the warranty time out for five years, which means we're twelve months without a warranty. And if something goes wrong, bad luck, I know. So I'm damned if I do or damned if I don't. I'm already paying four hundred dollars a month to get covered because we need the dietists. We need dentists regularly, we need divts, educators, all these other artillery people that you can claim on private hills, busiotherapy sometimes also and exercise, you know whatever. So I cannot afford to give it up, and I cannot afford to pay it.
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Speaker 1: What are you going to do.
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Speaker 21: I don't know.
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Speaker 13: I wait and see the details. I'm hoping they reverse the decision or if they make some illnesses you know, not included in that, because it's just impossible. I mean, the count is only one. We've got a whole heat of accessories for the pump that we've got to pay for us and I cost me one hundred dollars a month for medication. It's just, you know, it's just goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 10: Of what we have to pay.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll, yeah, we'll find out in the budget exactly what is going to happen. Sandra. We have the Federal Health Miness to mark about that regularly on the show, So stay listening, and the next time we have him on, you can call up or we'll put that question to him, because I think he is a fair man and he's already changed some aspects of health spending in certain areas, and yours seems to be a legitimate one that needs to be looked at and singled out. Thanks to call Eric, good morning.
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Speaker 27: Good morning, I Zed and I liven Fuster mid nineteen sixty seven started working the Health services on the mid eighth, nineteen sixty seven, retailing in December nineteen Through all that time of paid private health yeah nineteen to one of hospital had a constelectomy not there a nice man as an adult. The next time I was in hospital was in March this year when I had spinal surgery that cost me over fifteen thousand dollars including my health partner's refunds, and I reduced to get a five hundred dollar access on my hospital care. So I've paid that twice. But because I had a caller uscuy a few years ago. So all that time I've been paying private health care and now closer toy to two than AMTY seventy two. The rebate has been very beneficial and back in nineteen twenty twenty three then Labor Governments put out a tender or an investigation which said that the health the healthcare for subsidy for elder Australians was in fact cost beneficial to the government that fifteen thousand dollars I spent in just recently where I've been on the government on not on me. If if I earn that, I don't understand that. The other thing is in regard to seniors with elderly care. I've got a friend of work who's elder father is a demnsing process and is in a residential care. He now has to be re moved to a secure mental health the residential care for the mening patients in the private sector, it has to find six hundred and fifty thousand dollars to get in there. And in all my time, since since nineteen sixty seven there's been a labor government. They're the ones that are responsible for the health care cituation we have today. They've been empowered for what at least forty five years of these nearly sixty years that I have been here, and they closed the elderly care units at Whole Crest and Gwenside and now the elderly certainly the mess of people in Shelodians who are who have got an aggressive component to their disability of having to find private places. Why is there not still public health facilities for the elderly who need the main subseitment that's you know, it just seems ridiculous that we pay this all the time and every time we're tele then the other thing, of course there is there is a young man I was paying even the children. I didn't have a great expense on the public health.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so you poured in a lot of money over the years, no question about that. Eric, Thanks for you called. I think one more before news headlines. Nick, good morning, Good.
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Speaker 22: Morning Graham guy. I want to comment that they're short of drivers. I drive the tracks and buses all my life for fifty years in Australian and I retired, or one year ago. I just retired and I got on the pension. But I'm still strong and I like to drive. But if I do that, Gran, the people you call government run the country, that I want to attack your half, which makes me not worth it to go drive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's it. You're qualify for the pension. But if you work beyond a certain time, they take a huge slice of your income.
00:57:09
Speaker 3: And that that's.
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Speaker 22: It's my wife's good. A little part time job that take two hundred dollars from hair huh, and also that I get two hundred dollars from me. Yeah, because you've got any job. And I said give it up, and she said no. If I do that, I've got nothing to do for Look.
00:57:27
Speaker 1: You make a good point that there's no question about that. And we've talked about this before other countries like New Zealand, you can go into retirement, get your pension because you've earned it throughout your life, and get and get a job and you'll keep most of your income. Here in Australia we seem to think that, well, you've got the pension, you've got a job, now you're going to pay huge amounts of tax. It doesn't make a lot of sense, seeing we need more and more workers and there are lots of people of retirement age who would be only too willing to come out of retirement and do a job as long as they got a reasonable amount of money for it and didn't pay more than fifty percent of their income in tact. What are your thoughts? Love to hear.
00:58:01
Speaker 4: Them five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven to eleven and five double A on this Anzac Day Eve. Well, so much negative news about it. It's always nice when a light and bright, happy story comes about. There's a national South Australia recognition today with two twenty twenty six Australian Book Industry Award nominations, which is great news. Little Book Press is published by the publishing arm of the not for profit raising Literacy Australia CEO is Kate Ellis you joined us now, Kate, goodbody.
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Speaker 25: There, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Lovely to speak to you and to you now this is really good. It's brought to smile them a face because for a start books too many kids these days have got their face buried in iPads and smartphones and so forth. To hear that books are being pushed front and Santa most and they're out of South Australia, tell us about it.
00:58:55
Speaker 17: Yeah, it is a really exciting story on two fronts that you know, tiny little South Australian charity started right here in Adelaide, decided to set up our publishing arms so we could make sure that every child had access to great quality books, and just ten years later being recognized with a shortlisting for Children's Publisher of the Year, alongside international giants of publishing like Penguin and Alan Unwin and Hardi Grant. So you know, it's wonderful recognition for the hard work that's gone in here. But also, as you said, it's nice just to celebrate children's books and trying to create a lifelong love of learning and of reading, but also just something for parents and children to bond Over and just celebrate that magic of different stories, great stories and Australian stories. It's just really nice that the team here have been recognized for their hard work a cross.
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Speaker 1: So take us back. What's the history of Raising Literacy Frustratia. It seems like you're trying to go against the tide.
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Speaker 17: Well, the history is actually some time ago. It was started through the inaugural CEO, Sue Hill and working with Melvin Mansell at the Advertiser Warning to make sure that we push to improve children's literacy levels. And it started some of your listeners might recall there was a big book club that used to feature in the Advertiser. Well then they decided to start the Little Big Book Club, which is what became Raising Literacy Australia. So it was it was started to celebrate and because parents would often say I know that I should be reading to my child, but I don't really know what I should be reading, what's quality, what's not. So it was started to not just give people access to books, but to give parents access to information and support as well.
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Speaker 25: And now of course we.
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Speaker 17: Publish books ourselves and we make sure that every baby born in South Australia gets a pack of our books free, that every preschooler in South Australia gets a pack of our books free, because we know that books are one way that we can give every child the opportunity to learn and prosper, and it's something that everybody should have, regardless of their background. And we're just delighted that we get to make beautiful, magical stories and get to hand them out to children across South Australia and increasingly across Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's so exciting on one hand, a bit sad on the other hand because when you were growing up, when I was growing up, we probably didn't have any other distractions and books were central to your life. I mean, my parents read to me, you know, you know I read to my kids, and all of a sudden, we have these distractions which are all bright and shiny and terrific, but it gets away from there's nothing like sitting down with a young child and reading a book to them. I mean, I still my daughter, who is now in our mid thirties, we talk about the Far Away Tree and the Wishing Chair absolutely and how she loved and I think all my kids love those stories and different stories, and even now I get a chill down the spine thinking of reading to them. You know, it forms a bond that I don't think any other sort of form of contact can bring.
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Speaker 25: I absolutely agree with you.
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Speaker 17: I was one of those kids who used to hide a torch under the covers, so when I was meant to be sly, but I'd be sitting because I needed to find out what happened next. I needed to be a part of the story. And I still often when I'm dropping my children at primary school, there is a little girl who often walks to school reading her book, and it just makes me smile every day because what we do know is that not every child is going to travel the world, not every child is going to become an astronaut or a rock star, but every child can experience those stories and can feel those emotions in the pages of books, and it is such a magical gift that we can give to young people. You're quite right, Sadly, too many people sit staring at screens, looking at mindless YouTube videos or the like that we should just celebrate that there is something really special that everyone can enjoy, and the reason that we are not for profit and a charity is because we want to make sure that that is universal. Everybody can have access to that before they start school and start developing those skills early language development, literacy development, but also the emotional bonds that come with.
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Speaker 25: Something really wonderful.
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Speaker 17: And to have the work that's been happening here in South Australia recognized with these shortlistings at a national level.
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Speaker 25: It's really exciting. It's like the Oscars for books here.
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Speaker 13: So.
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Speaker 17: You know it is a really great South Australian success story. And you know people have worked really hard for ten years on Little Book Press, for twenty years raising literacy Australia and it's just a it to lots of hard workings out Australians behind the scenes who are making sure that we're leaders in this really important field.
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Speaker 1: So you've taken on the giants and are likely to win.
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Speaker 25: What makes I'm not sure we're calling that one yet great, Well.
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Speaker 1: I'm calling it. I'd love to see it. But what makes Little Book Press so unique?
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Speaker 25: Well, I think it's about a commitment to quality.
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Speaker 17: It's about making sure that we invest in great Australian authors and great Australian illustrators, that we have stories that capture children's imaginations that we have a variety there. I mean, one of the reasons I suspect that this shortlisting has occurred this year is that we are over represented when it comes to awards. We make sure that we have a focus on quality at all times. So this year we have one of our books is shortlisted for the Children's Book Council of Australia Picture Book of the Year.
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Speaker 25: We have this.
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Speaker 17: Amazing event which is coming up in about a month's time.
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Speaker 25: They call it. It's called National Simultaneous Story.
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Speaker 17: Time and some of your listeners might know from their children or grandchildren. So what happens is one book is selected and schools across Australia, libraries across Australia, childcare centers across Australia all read the same book at the same time.
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Speaker 25: And we are so over the moon.
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Speaker 17: That this year the book that will be read over two million children will be read is one of our books from Little Book Press. So that's a really big achievement for a little not for profit in South Australian publishing house. And we've just had a number of those successes that have built up and you know, We're not expecting to take home every award, but it is really nice to just celebrate some recognition for the work that we do, which you know is driven by children's best interests, not by profits.
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Speaker 25: So it's nice to be up there with the big guys.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, you're pretty well answered my next question. I was about to say, how do you measure success beyond the wards? But I think you've already told us.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Well, I think it's also we're really lucky we get to measure success when the feedback that we get from parents and children when they receive our free book packs is you know, we love hearing about which stories really resonated. One of the programs that we run is called our Read to Me program, and every single child in foster care in out of home care in South Australia gets a pack of our books every three months, delivered to wherever their new home is. And the feedback we get from those children who for a variety of reasons, have been taken away from their parents, sometimes with nothing but the clothes they're wearing at the time, that they feel valued and that they get a chance to read amazing books and to have something that belongs to them. You know, that's how we measure our success. We just think it's something really special that we can offer to every child across South Australia, and we're growing and expanding our programs into other states and territories as well, which you know, as you said in the opening, there's so much bad news around that if we can just make sure that every child has that little bit of magic and that little bit of wonder, then I think that's a great service to.
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Speaker 25: Be able to provide.
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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Keep up raising literacy Australian. You're doing a fabulous job. We miss you on the board at the otherlaid football color muscle.
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Speaker 25: I know, go Crows. Don't worry. I'm I'm still there with you in spirit.
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Speaker 17: I am absolutely still following the footy and well it's funny, Graham, but no longer being on the board, no longer wearing my suit to every game, getting to experience watching the Crows on the hill with the family. We're real footy fans and no I do miss you all, but you know, as we know, we can't all be everywhere at the same time.
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Speaker 1: We're doing asational job at the moment.
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Speaker 25: Thank you so much, Graham, I'll leave the crows in your capable hands.
01:07:56
Speaker 1: Great to chat, Thanks ky you two. Thanks Graham, it's raising literacy. I'll stay at A CEO and former board member of the Adelade Football Club and of course a distinguished member of the Labour Party government. Kate ellis a really decent human being. Always great to chat with her. Always leave conversation with Kate with a smile on your face.
01:08:18
Speaker 4: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:08:21
Speaker 1: Thirteen two eleven, five double A And let's take a call David. Good morning.
01:08:26
Speaker 27: Oh hello Graham.
01:08:27
Speaker 28: Yeah, you're talking about health fund.
01:08:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:08:29
Speaker 28: I nearly always swap health fund companies every one or two years. That saved me heat some money. Invariably, when you do a change over, your old company will bring you up and saying, oh why are you leaving?
01:08:43
Speaker 14: Why are you leaving?
01:08:44
Speaker 15: And ill?
01:08:44
Speaker 28: Then they'll say a week in match that or we'll give you swim up free cover. So over the last few years I said a spot between Buddy Health Partners, Booper and.
01:08:55
Speaker 11: All the others.
01:08:56
Speaker 28: But a lot of my friends are very loyal to their health fund, a lot more loyal than with electricity or insurance.
01:09:04
Speaker 1: Well, loyalty is all well and good, but you've got to be rewarded for your loyalty.
01:09:08
Speaker 28: Surely, if you're not, that's the problem, but you know it. Really, I just advise them all to do a swap or try and put a swap in order, and I invariably your health fund will come back with a better offer.
01:09:23
Speaker 1: Good advice, David. Now, do you if you do change, do you have to serve as sort of a qualifying period before you can make a claim?
01:09:30
Speaker 28: No, swapped straight over. If you've had consistent you know, full health covers carried over and you're qualified for all your special requirements. The trick is, though, gram is to check apples for apples, because you know one might cut out like physio or diabetes or something like that. So you really have to be careful when to check that apples for apples.
01:09:56
Speaker 1: That's great advice, David. Thanks for that. Yeah, that's right. If you want to if you think considering changing, you want to make sure that the things that you want the new company offers. Excuse me, losing the voice, which is not a good thing in this business, boka, if I was a bricklayer. Thank you for that, David. We've got a double pass to give away to the State Opera of South Australia's production of cinder Rabba. It's playing four shows only at the Majesty's Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from Stateopera dot com dot au. For the best caller of the morning, Well they're calling it Adelaide's Cutest Race Day. What is it? Well, we're now about to find out. Pause for Change Founder director Anni Leo joins us. Any, good morning to you, Good morning Graham, how are you. I'm very well. Thanks. I think that there's the giveaway there.
01:10:46
Speaker 3: Pause.
01:10:47
Speaker 1: What is the Cutest Race Day all about?
01:10:50
Speaker 25: Exactly? It is a bit of a giveaway.
01:10:53
Speaker 29: So we're talking about the Canine Cup, which started about eight years ago now, I think, And it was originally an alternative to a traditional race day such as Adelaide Cup. But it was an animal friendly alternative and it involves a lot of very cute, chaotic but adorable doggy fun runs that are presented up on the big screen and guests can enjoy a traditional lunch day and enjoy all the other cute chaos that comes along with it.
01:11:24
Speaker 1: So is there only live racing or is it all on the big screen.
01:11:27
Speaker 29: It's on the big screen. It has been, so the races are actually pre recorded, and so they're pre recorded and dogs can you know, sort of trot run, you know, they're bribed with you know, chicken nuggets and all sorts of things to run from one owner to another. So there's no sort of you know, coercion or control and that's where the cuteness obviously comes in. And it's all pre recorded. The results are kept under wraps and then as we say, it's a luncheon and the final races are presented up on the big screen, you know, along with the sit down lunch and lots of other fashions on the field, prizes, giveaways. We've also got some market stalls, Palm Reader, pamp A lounge. So it's a lovely day out and it's raising funds for a good cause as well, with two local well known charities, Pause for Change and Safe Pets, Safe Families.
01:12:21
Speaker 1: And I take it there's no betting on these races.
01:12:24
Speaker 29: No, there are sweeps, so you can you know, sort of try your luck on who you think the winner might be. But the races, when they're pre recorded, they're actually filmed three times so even the people on the day don't know outcome.
01:12:38
Speaker 1: So now when you have a race against dogs, are they sort of all the same breed, all the terriers run together, all the greyhounds run together, or is it a mixed breath.
01:12:46
Speaker 29: It's a little bit of everything. So we have pocket rockets, we've got Golden Oldies, which are the senior dogs. But we've also got a category like Rescue Run, which is open to all rescue dogs. Because obviously Pause for Change is an animal welfare charity, Safe Pet Safe Families is also a community welfare charity, and so we've got together to present the Canine Cup over the last couple of years, and this year in particular, we're raising funds for a new initiative called Safe paus Haven, which will be South Australia's first twenty four to seven emergency pet boarding facility.
01:13:26
Speaker 1: Wow our pets welcome on the day.
01:13:30
Speaker 29: The runners are so that our race stars or pop stars will be there walking the red carpet on the day. We've moved to the event from it used to be in March amongst the Mad March chaos, and this year, for the first time, we've actually moved it to May So it's on May seventeen at a wonderful dog friendly venue called Jackson Square in Heinmarsh And we've moved it because we've had lots of challenges in that March date where people are time and cash poor. But also the last two years we've been battling forty degree weather which has not been conducive to bringing pets out.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: So where's it being held? What are the details we need to know?
01:14:12
Speaker 29: So it's being held on May seventeen, It's a Sunday from twelve to four. It's at Jackson Square in hind marsh All. The details are at Canine Cup dot org so people can find all the information and tickets there. And yeah, as I say, we're raising vital funds for a new initiative called Safe Pause Haven So Safe Pets, Safe Families, great organization. They've been around for about ten years now, I think ten years or more. So they provide foster care for people escaping in a crisis, whether it's a medical emergency, domestic violence, homelessness.
01:14:50
Speaker 25: But it takes time to.
01:14:52
Speaker 29: Find a foster for those pets, and then those pets are fostered and reunited with their owners down the track but it does take time to find foster's so safe. Pause Haven is a new initiative that we're looking to launch that will be, as I say, a twenty four to seven emergency pet boarding for people who you know, they have to make the choice of leaving a situation then and there, and often they delay that choice because they have nowhere safe for their pets to go.
01:15:18
Speaker 25: And with seventy.
01:15:19
Speaker 29: Percent of the community being pet owners, it's extremely vital most certainly.
01:15:25
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure it'll be a huge day, the cutest race day on the calendar, the Canine Cup. It's great to chat. Thanks for your time.
01:15:34
Speaker 29: Today, Annie, Thanks Graham, Pleasure.
01:15:36
Speaker 1: Pause for Change founder any Leo, the race day or pets. It's up on the big screen. You can't bet on it, per se, but there are sweeps. Sounds like a lot of fun, doesn't it. Let's take a call at six minutes two eleven plead a good morning, Good morning sir, How are you good? Thanks?
01:15:55
Speaker 20: Just probably following a little bit from a comment I made yesterday about you know, talk about these discounts and reductions and so forth, but you know, how long would that the previous price before that? I know that it used to be in the clothing industry. I don't know what it is now, but some years ago you advertised a product so called discounted that it had to be at that price for the minimum of seven weeks. Now, I couldn't stand corrected on that, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Now, Why why is this not the same for all products that you've got to have, you know, instead of just jumping it up a couple of weeks before and then say you discounted that. I'm in a lot of them saying fifty percent, which we know is a straight out lie. But I mean, you know, there should be some limitation of how much time that they've been a previous price.
01:16:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a fair point. That's a fair point. If they had held at a certain price for a period of time, people would be more in the know. But if yeah, you're right, if they've done it for a week or two weeks, it seems hardly reasonable.
01:16:55
Speaker 20: Well, that's what's been happening with a certain supermarket. As we know, we're not the only ones.
01:17:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Peter. Look, let's hope that all comes out in the a trible c hearing. The calls have been before the tribunal and now it's Woolworth's turn and let's hope the customer gets their due satisfaction. Carol, good morning.
01:17:16
Speaker 23: Oh my Grahame.
01:17:17
Speaker 30: I'm not a mathematician, but I've just gone through this self calculations now as the oldest and our charge extra. Now my husband has dementia. They just cut out his day program which he needs to go from ten o'clock to three o'clock, which is two hundred and sixty dollars out of the package. So they've now taken my freedom away for one day.
01:17:46
Speaker 24: Plus.
01:17:47
Speaker 30: Now we've got to pay for these people to have a shower, which will be coming out of their pack. Each They'll be charged one hundred and fifty dollars an hour, so that it's still coming out of the package. So we are now paying for these providers to rip off us oldies with our medical benefits.
01:18:11
Speaker 10: Do you understand what I mean?
01:18:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is via the NDIS you're talking about no page care. Yeah, well I think that is a bit different regarding showering. Didn't the minister say that wouldn't be that they're.
01:18:26
Speaker 31: Changing that and they get charged dearly and it comes out of their packages. So the providers are making the money.
01:18:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I don't know the detail on that, Carol, but leave it with us and we'll get the detail and find it out for you. Eight double two to three double O double O. From the text line, Harry says, call a Graham in memory of the fallen and tribute to the returned. May the march be trouble free with their mates, May every beer be enjoyed responsibly, and may every coin toss be a winner. Thank you, I can't forget. Thank you for that, Harry. A nice comment, Hi Gig. If reading is so brilliant, then how do we explain a generation of young people who have little ability to think critically? The obvious example is the so called climate emergency they all believe, which they are told is caused by carbon dioxide, a trace gas responsible for life on Earth. What's wrong? Is the young vote green? God help us all. Thank you for that, John, five double A.
01:19:26
Speaker 4: Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:19:28
Speaker 1: Past eleven, five double A on this Friday morning, always a popular time when Nick hay strolls into the studio to talk about media.
01:19:35
Speaker 32: Nick, Good morning, Crime, good to see you. It's all about anzact day in the media at the moment. It's really I don't think it's surprising. I think a lot of people tend to think that this might have waned that we don't get behind going to a dawn sirs, or.
01:19:53
Speaker 1: It did for a while. It did for a while after Vietnam.
01:19:57
Speaker 32: Correct, and that was the sort of the war that you know, it was very it was heavily televised. It was the wars were fought in the living rooms as opposed to on the battle fear and in the US Australia they didn't have control of the messaging or anything like that. So media played a big role in that. And they came back as well. You know, the words like baby killers and stuff like that, really horrible, horrific things from men that just went to serve their country. And you know, for a lot of them they were National service. They have a choice, you know, they were put in there, and we treated our veterans so poorly and badly back then. But there is this surgeens the young people are really understanding it. And I loved your warm up this morning when you opened the show just with reference to it is about remembering and just honoring those that were prepared to put their hand up and go to war and fight for our values and our freedoms.
01:20:57
Speaker 1: And well, we wouldn't have what we had today and done that. I mean, who knows, we we might all be speaking Japanese. Yeah, we don't know.
01:21:06
Speaker 32: Yeah, and this is it. And I think the young people I was talking to my son this morning, and you know what, you've see it, and they're incredibly you know that they're incredibly focused and proud of our history and what it has come to be. There has been a bit of Paul enhanced and chatter around the fact that, you know, if there were for young people, as with the way that we talk about Anne zac Day and the way that we talk about our performance in history, that she's suggesting it's the way it's taught, that we're not taught to be proud of our nation, et cetera. I think that's completely different. I think that's completely wrong from her. I think that we are. I think we are very proud. And you'll see a lot of young people at dawn services tomorrow, and you'll see a lot of people celebrating not war, but celebrating the efforts and the work that people before them have done to give them the freedoms that they have today and the gift.
01:21:57
Speaker 1: Of what we have, I mean, the fact that we can but the fact that we can be upset with certain things because we have we are free to do that.
01:22:05
Speaker 32: We've got every we've got all the rights and everything like that. So I just it's really pleasing to see.
01:22:10
Speaker 3: And Anzac Day.
01:22:11
Speaker 32: One little contentious issue though, Graham, is the fact that Anzac Day does fall on a Saturday, and people are.
01:22:18
Speaker 3: Losing their holiday.
01:22:20
Speaker 32: Well not everyone's losing, though, we just live in the wrong stay and you're on holiday. So I think, look, I'm a big believer you only go on the days that Monday to Friday for it is it's and if it falls on a weekend.
01:22:33
Speaker 3: And that's just so be it.
01:22:34
Speaker 32: But that's pretty much been the only negative contention I think I can see that has been flying around about the day. But it's just beautiful just to remember, and so many from from World War One, World War II, Vietnam, there's lots of been peacekeeping Afghanistan, conflicts that have happened around the world, and conflicts we.
01:22:54
Speaker 3: Don't always know about either.
01:22:57
Speaker 32: But there is one little other negative that's running around, and that's Ben Robert Smith.
01:23:01
Speaker 3: He has been big in the media.
01:23:01
Speaker 32: This week and that has hurt I think a lot of people as to what they think about the Armed services and whether that is something to get behind, because that case is very much the front page of a lot of the mainstream mastheads around the country and we are talking very, very a lot about him.
01:23:21
Speaker 1: It is a shame that's divided the nation, those that sort of think, you know, I mean, nobody abides by a war atrocities. But what are we really talking about here? Do we know? You know, people have made up their mind. That's what annoys me more than anything. People have decided. You know, he's gilly, No, he's not. I mean, you know, let's face it, first and foremost. He is a war hero, yes, well straight, it's most highly decorated living war.
01:23:43
Speaker 32: Hero, a Victoria Cross winner. You know, you don't get those easy and then not ended out lightly. So that has been and I think it has been a battle in the media. It's so high profile. As you say, people have made up their mind. They've made up it. They've already decided as to whether he's guilty or not guilty. He needs his day in court certainly, and you know, the difference between the civil hearing and a criminal hearing.
01:24:08
Speaker 3: This is beyond reasonable doubt. This is everyone.
01:24:11
Speaker 32: You know, the civil case was it could have happened that this is a criminal case where it is. And the other issue that's happened and popped up in the media this week is the fact that four of his comrades have been given amnesty. They've been given a relief they're not going to be charged if they speak up against him. And I think that's another thing that feels a little bit rotten about all of this, is that the fact that these people, these people that he served with.
01:24:38
Speaker 3: Are going to be pretty much.
01:24:40
Speaker 32: Giving evidence against him so that they don't get charged themselves.
01:24:45
Speaker 3: Something wrong with that?
01:24:46
Speaker 5: Wrong with that correct?
01:24:47
Speaker 1: And I mean it is so difficult because it's easy, well and good to sort of say, you know that certain things shouldn't happen in more and as I say, I preface it with against atrocities at all. But who was to decide in the theater of war when you know you'll face with your life or theirs, you don't know who the enemy is, and a lot of these cases and you've got to make a decision a split second decision.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:25:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, we.
01:25:12
Speaker 32: Talk about there's obviously a report out at the moment, whether you know, children would the generation Z would get up and go to war for us if something did pop up very heavily against it. No, they don't want to. I don't think so much. It's the youth or is the worry there? I think it's the way that this case is going to play out over the next two years heavily in the media, and we're going to be looking at the way that this is all has played out, and we'll find out a lot more as it goes. But that's going to put people off joining the armed forces because again, you know, it's not that we're encouraging murderers or any kind.
01:25:49
Speaker 3: Of act like that.
01:25:50
Speaker 32: It's just that why would you put yourself in that position exactly?
01:25:54
Speaker 1: And a situation of life and death, and these decisions are made by politicians. And it's a long story, but a Vietnam veteran who I had quite a deal to, quite a lot to deal with, used to always send emails and on the bottom of the email was the line a politicians a fellow who will lay down your life for his country. I think that sums it up. All these politicians had to be on the front line, or to put their own children on the front line, they might think differently about sending a country to war.
01:26:27
Speaker 32: I don't want to harp on this too much, but being Anazac day and the fact that this, the thing that gets to me is that it's corporal Ben Robert Smith, corporal.
01:26:38
Speaker 3: I was in the army, Graham for a little while. I was a private.
01:26:42
Speaker 32: The next one up is lance corporal, and then one after that is corporal. He's not very high in the.
01:26:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a non commissioned officer.
01:26:49
Speaker 32: Yes, so where are all these officers above him that are not being charged? And that that just that's a good point, a really good point. So look to everyone, really, it's a it's an amazing day, intact data to be thinking about those that have fallen before us, and get out to your get out to your dawn services, take the kids, really, you know, get behind it. Other big things in the media. Graham obviously Trump, Iran, Israel. That's the straight up.
01:27:18
Speaker 3: Hamor's Oh my.
01:27:20
Speaker 1: Who would have thought a little little peace of the world could impact every other corner of the world.
01:27:27
Speaker 32: Yeah, can you believe it's only day fifty five. Well, it feels it feels like we've been doing this now for five months, not fifty five days now, and no end insight, and no end in sight. It's you just don't know who to believe or who to think about it. And I know we've got quite.
01:27:43
Speaker 3: A few texts last week when we were talking.
01:27:44
Speaker 32: About Donald Trump and you know a little negative towards him, and you know what about the Iranians and everything like that. But there's so much media around this that you kind of don't know who who's in charge or who's who's working what. But you know what, No, I don't think they know either. I don't think Iranians Americans actually know who they're talking to or what they're doing at the moment. It just seems like it is a complete nut of circus out there. But one positive thing this week went past the petrol station.
01:28:14
Speaker 1: What petrol's dropped? I tell the story last week I was driving along Port Road and I saw petrol at two dollars twenty five point nine, And I'm smiling to myself because I know everyone's spent two thirty plus. I fill up with a big smile on my face. It's been going down every day since then. Yeah, I filled up way too.
01:28:34
Speaker 3: Soon, so well, no one knows.
01:28:37
Speaker 32: So it's that fuel security seems to have been a big part of the media this week, and a suggestion there that we've got actually more fuel now than what we did fifty five days ago.
01:28:47
Speaker 3: So something's going right.
01:28:48
Speaker 32: Something's working in the government. But I tell you what, if we don't learn a lesson from this, if we don't start becoming more self sufficient, particularly when it's fuel and energy, we need to be more fuel and energy secure.
01:29:03
Speaker 3: We should be learning from this.
01:29:04
Speaker 1: We should have learned from COVID. This is the second lesson, and if we don't learn this, time will be damn.
01:29:11
Speaker 32: Do you think do you think Graham, we will? Do you think we actually will learn from this?
01:29:15
Speaker 1: Look? Please? Yes? Please?
01:29:18
Speaker 5: Yes?
01:29:19
Speaker 1: Finally, federal budget coming up.
01:29:21
Speaker 32: Yeah, lot to make us on the federal budget at the moment, so that the treasure Jim Charmers has got a big job in front of him. And I don't think it's going to be great for us out there too. You know, we're not going to get any tax relief, will no handouts, no, and rightly, so I think we've got to do this fiscally, you know, sensible because we are in a bit of we're in a bit of bother and if we can try and avoid a recession, can try and avoid that, then you know, I hope Jim Chalmers does the right thing. I think I think the people will get behind him if he does a really fiscally responsible labor is not really renowned for that, and you know, this is probably a time you'd like a good liver government to be in charge.
01:30:01
Speaker 3: But let's hope it's a good budget for everyone.
01:30:05
Speaker 1: Nick, thanks for coming in today. Always great to chat. See you next week, mister Goodings. Nickay's from media stable back shortly.
01:30:12
Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:30:17
Speaker 1: I think past eleven five A on this Friday morning, an Zac Eve. My next guest is a man that needs no introduction to me anyway, Terry Byrne. Terry, good morning.
01:30:29
Speaker 10: To you, Good morning to you, Graham. I'm sitting here listening to your voice from Tasmania and realizing how long I've heard you on make You should work in media. You've got a good radio boy.
01:30:42
Speaker 1: Now I've got to set this up. Terry Byrne and I work together. This is not the reason for the call. I'm talking to Terry ahead of anzac Da because he's a Vietnam veteran. But let's set the scene. We work together back in Tazzy doing a comedy segment on television. Tell the viewers about it.
01:31:00
Speaker 10: It was a thing called Mick and Sid. And the problem to your listeners they need to know is you could never remember whether you were Mick or Sid. And I had to get a black Celtive pen and ride it on my overalls because we were supposed to be two workers, which you and I wouldn't work and iron lung but I had to write Mick or Sid on my phone. It still didn't work with you. You started to call me bloke and bloke Bloke has stuck for years. We don't say Terry and with a may bloke.
01:31:30
Speaker 18: Yeah.
01:31:31
Speaker 10: And and the comedy was stolen from the Two Ronnies. You used to just one go and go and line up in the queue, which two you and I'm going to the top of that one, but your producer will cut it off. But we we plagiarized stuff from two Ronnies and we were the Mick and Ship said show.
01:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Back in the days of Tasman and Television. We were on show that won a LOGI let's not forget that.
01:31:57
Speaker 10: We did win a logie. And I would your producer sometime to get you to do the Alan Searle imitation. I got you just did a gardening ad a few minutes ago. Oh yeah, do you remember Alan Searle and the.
01:32:13
Speaker 1: And I used to Alan Snail.
01:32:15
Speaker 10: I called him Alan Snlee, that's right. And you had this snail repellent which which was a brick written wrapped up in brown paper, and you said, this is how the repellent works. And you dropped the brick on the snail as a gut blew up and went on the bloody lens of the camera. It's a wonder we didn't get all sorts of complaints. The r s p c A used and used to whistle like Alan Snail to do that for me.
01:32:43
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, Now why I've got you on? You're getting me into real trouble. Terry had a very distinguished career as a paralegal and he helped me out on numerousccasions. That's a story for yet another day.
01:32:56
Speaker 10: But mathemonial law, what that one?
01:33:00
Speaker 1: You're going to get me in the strife. Again, it's your history as of Vietnam veteran. Now did your number come out of the barrel? Were you a Nashow?
01:33:09
Speaker 21: Yes?
01:33:09
Speaker 10: Mate, I was not a volunteer. I was a National serviceman. Now you remember that married lady. I'm living with Sonya, my wife in fifty two years. Sonya was a volunteer.
01:33:19
Speaker 1: Oh right, that's right, Yeah, she was original National dorshman.
01:33:21
Speaker 10: My number came out of the barrel and off I went.
01:33:26
Speaker 1: You see, mine didn't come out of the barrel, and I was absolutely terrified. It didn't come out of the barrel. And I ended up wandering through life working in radio. So you ended up in Vietnam. What was the experience as a National serviceman going to a war that you really didn't want to be part of.
01:33:45
Speaker 10: No, I've done five years in the Air Force Cadets, so everything they were teachers and recruit training, which was in Singleton, just in land from from Newcastle. Everything that they were teaching me I pretty much knew. I was then to the School of Military Engineering in Casula out near Liverpool in Sydney and we did all sorts of things like booby trap's mind warfare, explosives, all that sort of stuff. And I initially wasn't posted to Vietnam my first postings. When all the postings came out, they knew I wasn't scared of a microphone, they knew had a good projecting voice, they knew I knew most of the stuff. So they posted me back to the School of Military Engineering as an instructor, right, and which made my mum very happy because she'd done a seven day novena. The Saint Francis that I didn't go, and that's the truth. But anyway, they a few a week or so later they changed my posting and I went to Neui DApp which was the Field Force Unit as part of one Field Square on engineers. And look, there are those who've come back with all sorts of difficulties. Men myself and had lots of fun, loving mates and we were bulletproof, mate, we were we were twenty one, twenty three, it all. There's somebody else. So the experience didn't really affect me all that much. When I came home, I was single, and like a lot of return servicemen, and being in towns fall, I loved the fruit of the barley I loved a beer. I was playing in a rock band and in a folk band. I was treated with the Salmon Club. I was hitting the grog pretty bad. As I said, happens to a lot of excergement. And my mum got a real estate agentonomy and I bought an old house and started doing it up. Between that and then meeting Sonya, who put the brakes on me a bit as far as drinking went, I really haven't been affected too much when.
01:35:53
Speaker 1: It comes to a lot of Vietnam veterans though. I mean we'd look back and I was talking on the show earlier about Anzac Day and the numbers of people going to the march these days have grown over the years, which is great to see. But post Vietnam there was a really negative feeling. I mean the feelings about Australians going to war in Vietnam. And it sounds like you because you were in Townsville, you were away from them feeling. But I can tell you in major states there was really ill feeling towards those that fought in Vietnam.
01:36:22
Speaker 10: Oh look, if anybody likes to go into Google searches and look at some of those protesting marches in the late sixties early seventies, there were close on a thousand, one hundred thousand people turning up at some of the big Melbourne city marches. There was even a group of people called Save our Sons. It was a mother's group. It was Yeah, there was a lot of bad feeling. And when one of the battalions came marching through came marching through the streets, someone ran out through red paint and blood over people and were calling them bay Be killers and all this sort of stuff. Because there was the the the episode of Me Live where Richard Kayley that Americans took egn and brassed up a village, but Austrangers didn't do that. And just just to give you an example of what happened, we didn't come back on the HMAS Sydney. The engineers came back on our hercules flying from Vung Tau back in the in the Sydney and they didn't want us appearing during the daylight. So we stopped in Darwin for ages and ages and we didn't understand why, and then we found out so that we'd fly in late at night and people wouldn't see us. Wow, And I just went back to Uni, I grew me here long only feel me new. I didn't talk about Vietnam and I just got on with my life. But yeah, there are those who were who are mentally affected by by what happened to when they came home.
01:37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and this is there's the thing you hear the horror stories. I mean, it's all wars that the can impact people and they have lifelong problems with it. But Vietnam was super difficult because of the fact that there was so much anti feeling. So what is your feeling towards ANZAC Day today?
01:38:14
Speaker 10: Oh mate, I look forward to it. I'm a guest speaker down to the little regional town tomorrow, Bridport. You remember Bridport, I do. I home of the two of the famous link courses in Australia, Barn Bugle and Lost Farm. And I'm just speaker down there. And as far as your question goes, I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war. Okay, we'll mention the one hundred and eleventh anniversia. I can't believe that curly with dinniversary, I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war. Those widows and children of Afghanistan vitz who are around, because as you know, Sonya and Iron in legacy and legacy in South Australia is huge. And it's not just those who died in war, it's those who died since. And we've had the Royal Committe into suicide amongst veterans. And I've got about in legacy here a little place like Gonston, we've got about sticks. Maybe children whose fathers are afghanistand veteran have taken their own lives. It's a difficult situation. So that's what I'm going to be talking about the aftermath of war, that we should be there and I think I use the words don't matter what the result of any conflict or peacekeeping force, we should always thank our veterans for a job well done. You see, Vietnam veterans copped it even from their World War two bloats, or not all of them, some of them at the RSL. So when you came back you were twenty two to twenty three, you went down the RSL. Ah, it wasn't a real war. And what's more, you're lost for the first mob to lose, and a lot of blokes have mental scars over that. Me I just told them to get off and went inside.
01:40:03
Speaker 15: The boarder beer.
01:40:04
Speaker 1: Well let's have moved on from those days, Terry.
01:40:06
Speaker 16: Yeah.
01:40:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, And that's why I'm saying, you know, we we are now faced with a VC winner who's being charged, and you know, unless people know the actual thanks of what it was like, I mean, he might be guilty, he might be innocent. But this is the problem. Man. You know, people need to thank people for their service. And I when I've got my medals on or something, I get a lot of people who I don't even know to come up and say thank you for your service.
01:40:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Terry, we've got to leave it there. Thank you so much for your time to look up that I was going to call you Blake for a second, but I saw your name written up there.
01:40:45
Speaker 10: Yeah. I do notice that they've increased the penalties for burning the flag and graffiti. Yeah, And there was a lot of graffiti. And in Tasmania, as Richard Nixon was pulling the trough out, he had a withdrawal program. And I saw some graffiti that said give Nixon time with his withdrawal program, and someone underneath that had written withdrawal is something that Nixon's father should have practiced sixty five years ago. But I know we've got to get beat.
01:41:14
Speaker 1: There for that.
01:41:15
Speaker 4: On that note, Terry Burrn go to Chat five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:41:23
Speaker 1: Five double A. If you love your food? Who doesn't be listening to Stacy Lee today just after three when Chris Jarmer from Jama's Kitchen joins her for Foody Friday thanks to Smeg and Pals? Are you building or renovating? Your first choice should be visiting the Smeg showroom at Deadney Distributors. Taste the difference with Smeg and Pals. I've been thinking lately, are we losing the battle? Is Australia becoming a little America? Particularly when it comes to language? Okay, math instead of maths, defence? The list goes on and on. I'm sure you've got some you'd like to share with us. Nigel Stark is an author, a former newspaper a man of many talents. He joins me now, Nigel, good morning to you.
01:42:05
Speaker 11: Good morning Graham.
01:42:07
Speaker 1: Are you I mean you're you're a man of words. You use the language beautifully. Does it concern you that the way Austrata seems to be slipping into more americanisms.
01:42:16
Speaker 11: The language is constantly evolving and not always such a bad thing, but I think there are some occurrencies here that I'd like to avoid if I can. And one was brought to my attention just the other day. I have a beautiful grandson, and he was playing a game, trying to show me a game with little spinning tops he plays at the school, and he thought he'd show Grandpa. Well, Grandpa was hopeless that I was just terrible. I had to apologize and so sorry, Angus, I'm not very good at this game. Never mind, Papa, he said, I converse someone else.
01:42:49
Speaker 1: Ah, I hate.
01:42:53
Speaker 11: A piece of poetry. What he's saying, he's using, he's adopting and adapting and changing versus the s us. This is a growing practice to say I can verse.
01:43:05
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of sports commentators say exactly that, you know, tomorrow night, calling that verse Geelong.
01:43:12
Speaker 11: On Sunday. In this round, it's the Crows of versus Brisbane. They're not versing Brisbane, but some people would like to think they are.
01:43:23
Speaker 1: So I mean, you say English is are constantly evolving language, but they're I mean, I love I like the day, I like you, butte and bloke and things like that. You know, are we looking like we're going to lose all these sorts of things.
01:43:36
Speaker 11: I think they're slipping away. I'm reminded when you said there about good day, and I went to a restaurant a while ago, two adults, sorry, four adults to two women, and the young waitress came up for and said hi, guys. And I just didn't really think that was appropriate. And maybe I'm a stuffy old thing, but I didn't think that was the traditional, polite, conservative way of addressing people.
01:44:01
Speaker 1: I think I've been guilty of that myself, guys, But you're you're right, Americans. It is. It is.
01:44:08
Speaker 11: And also, going way back in the nineteen nineties, we had this show on TV, the Beverly Hills nine oh two to one oh, Beverly Hills nine oh two, Sorry about the aircraft going over here by the way, noise is off, Sorry about that. And Brandon Walsh played by Jason.
01:44:31
Speaker 20: Priestley and Beverly Hills nine o two one oh.
01:44:33
Speaker 11: It's been the basketball practice and he told his parents, I'm on the team. I'm on It has been adopted here that people, young people are saying, I'm on the team, in the team, please.
01:44:45
Speaker 3: Not on exactly.
01:44:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm in the under fourteen B grade.
01:44:49
Speaker 11: Not on them exactly exactly. But that's that's crept in and you love the young chevas. Talking to the other day, we were talking about the excouters and these e bites, and I referred to the danger that older people feel the concerned when they're out walking the city. He said, yes, you've got to take it careful on the sidewalk, the sidewalk.
01:45:14
Speaker 1: What about the footpath exactly?
01:45:17
Speaker 11: On the pavements, you know.
01:45:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now it is frustrating. Why is it happening? Is it because of the influence of American television.
01:45:27
Speaker 11: Well, it's partly, I think because of all the texting going on.
01:45:31
Speaker 1: This messages.
01:45:32
Speaker 11: People don't bother about spelling correctly. You're using correct the longer forms of language. It's all as shorthand.
01:45:39
Speaker 1: Now, I tell you what texting worries me, because I think you can get into a real strife with texting. And I'm not talking about the little lols and contractions like that and WTF and all those sorts of things. I'm talking about. You you just make a sort of an idle comment, like if I said something to you like you're silly old fart. You know, I was sort of, you know, joking. It's sort of a term of endearment. But if you put that in a text and it's just cold bland, it can be taken really the wrong way.
01:46:08
Speaker 11: And if you send the text of the wrong person, which I've done.
01:46:13
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yeah, you can get into real trouble.
01:46:17
Speaker 11: Do you exactly?
01:46:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't. Do you know how many words in an English language? I mean it must be hundreds of thousands of.
01:46:27
Speaker 11: Enormous yea, we don't.
01:46:29
Speaker 1: I guess we don't use that many of them, do we? And I fear that we're using fewer and fewer as time goes by, particularly young people.
01:46:35
Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting you say it's fewer, because you're right to say fewer when you can actually enumerate something. It's fewer, not less.
01:46:43
Speaker 1: Fewer and less. That's another one of my ideas.
01:46:45
Speaker 11: Few as going away and less is taking over. Yeah, yeah, another one that's changing. To my great annoyance. I'll see a sign of the warning that a certain intersection there's going to be some road works in a little while. It's going to go interrupt you, and the sign will say use alternate routes. They mean alternative.
01:47:11
Speaker 1: Right, yes, alternative routes.
01:47:14
Speaker 11: Who is being pronounced by our sidewalk guys.
01:47:18
Speaker 3: As route route?
01:47:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's American. Definitely, you've got to take a.
01:47:24
Speaker 3: Different route, that's right.
01:47:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I tell you what. One thing that is really topic at the moment is the people that say, oh, I love Anzac cookies. I mean, seriously, seriously.
01:47:38
Speaker 11: I have I've had a greater awareness of children, the words the children are being exposed to. I've found that children are talking about candy as well instead of follies. Yeah, candy.
01:47:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we seem to be losing the grip. David's texted in along that line. If I'm at a cafe and I asked if I would like a cookie, I tell them I am, and as such I eat biscuits. Usually it results in a confused look.
01:48:05
Speaker 11: Well, well, said I guess the great reaction. I quite agree.
01:48:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think we should fight to keep our language.
01:48:14
Speaker 11: Much as we can? But look, you were talking to Terry a moment ago, and he made some points about the changing perspectives and things over the years. Well, it's a long long way to go. Now, I think it's impossible. We can't. You can't stop this tsunami of language change.
01:48:35
Speaker 20: You just can't.
01:48:36
Speaker 1: And well, I guess we're hit from all different angles, aren't we. I mean, there are so many Once upon a time and you're my day, you had a newspaper, you had some radio stations and all then television came along. Now there are so many outlets, you know, and you can walk around with a phone in your hand and you've got contact.
01:48:52
Speaker 11: With the world if you another one. Now, Terry Burns, to whom he spoke a moment ago refer to his military service, have been issued with the rifle and one of the things he would have to do is adjust the sites that suited him, his stance and position and holding of it, and his eyesight and the weapon itself. And he has to concentrate on the on the target and home hom for mother e home in on it. But people say, if they're concentrating on focusing hone in yes for November, it's actually home. But hone has almost taken over because it sort of makes sense even though it's wrong.
01:49:33
Speaker 1: Nigel just hold the lines for a moment. Michael from Greenworth as wants to have a contractor make a contribution. Michael, go ahead, Yes.
01:49:41
Speaker 16: Good morning, gentlemen, thanks for taking my quick call. Fascinating subjects.
01:49:46
Speaker 20: My query is.
01:49:47
Speaker 16: When did the contribute become contributed? That's first and secondly, please tell me the S in specific.
01:49:58
Speaker 27: Is not silent?
01:50:00
Speaker 16: Can't handle being specifically correct? Do you know what I mean? I hear as many.
01:50:06
Speaker 11: People use the word specific.
01:50:08
Speaker 20: Without the S.
01:50:10
Speaker 16: And when did contribute become contributed?
01:50:14
Speaker 1: Good on you, Michael Nigel. Any thoughts on that?
01:50:17
Speaker 11: Yes, I got that. He points to another disturbing change and I find very helpful a book I bought in London some years ago at the British Library Pronunciation Guide, the BBC Pronunciation Guide, and that would services as an authority on these matters and that would address the contribute matter. We need more of those. Ask the one and your Christmas or you're exmis stocking.
01:50:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's taking over. There's a wave of them, and I'm just thinking, as Michael was on there, contribute the defense, you know, and the basketball teams play off? What's happened to defense? They decisely contraction and extraction of words is very frustrating.
01:51:07
Speaker 11: And then we've got down the middle of the highway of multi lane road. You've got something called the median med i in but it's becoming under attack with the use of medium medium, which again sort of sounds sort of right, but it's wrong.
01:51:27
Speaker 1: And the thing is, are people mishearing it or they they think they know better.
01:51:33
Speaker 11: I think it's seen as being a bit unfashionable. To be correct in your use of language and to have a casualization of language is all part of the pattern.
01:51:46
Speaker 1: From it from the text line. Oh, it's my bugbear that our Ossie language is becoming more americanized. My pet hate is that every place that sells anything these days is called a store. It's not a store, it's a bloody shop.
01:51:59
Speaker 11: It's a shop. I'm and an other aircraft you under the flight. Yes, I live a part of down with the mobile sy it's not very good, so it's best to go outside. But you have to put up on the aircraft.
01:52:14
Speaker 20: There we are.
01:52:15
Speaker 1: That's that's the joy of living in a city like Adelaide. So yeah, you're you're a shopman, not a store man.
01:52:22
Speaker 11: Definitely, definitely a shop man. And also if I want to go to the local shops, I have my driving license with me L I, C, E and CEA, not with the se A spell check would like me to change.
01:52:38
Speaker 1: Can't you find that spell check always corrects and has the changes that see for an s or.
01:52:44
Speaker 11: Speaking of shops, trim. Do we need in this country to have Black Friday? Is it anything to do with us at all?
01:52:51
Speaker 1: Nothing at all? And what about Halloween?
01:52:54
Speaker 11: Oh well that's that is actually I think evil just playing the evil.
01:52:58
Speaker 1: That's that's taken over. I mean the kids love that as much or more than Christmas these days, they sure do. The changing times. Maybe we're just old fossils. What do you reckon?
01:53:08
Speaker 20: Well?
01:53:10
Speaker 11: I have been accused of that, and I think it's got some justification.
01:53:15
Speaker 1: Nigel's been lovely the chat. Will we'll get you on again another time. We'll talk about the books you've written, because that's fascinating in itself.
01:53:22
Speaker 11: Yes, and that's briefly. Let me just say that I do not read e books. I like books. I want a book, go to bed with a book.
01:53:31
Speaker 1: Or someone who's read my book. Nigel, great to chat. We'll do it again.
01:53:36
Speaker 11: Take care on the sidewalk, Graham.
01:53:39
Speaker 1: Nigel, start joining us on language and we'll pursue that on another time, when like your contributions on the English language and the way we speak it.
01:53:48
Speaker 4: Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings, However.
01:53:52
Speaker 1: Minutes to twelve five double A on this Ansac day, eve getting lots of comments regarding the language. Hi, Graham. When I go to Hungry Jack's, I ask for my burger and chips. When they read it back, they say a burger and fries. I reply, if I can't have chips with my burger, I won't have anything. Thanks. Yeah, Stacy Lee? How are you? Stacy good?
01:54:16
Speaker 2: Graham?
01:54:16
Speaker 3: How are you good?
01:54:17
Speaker 1: Are you a word Nazi like I am? Do you get frustrated by people not using the language correctly? I mean we all make stuff ups and so forth, but ye, I am? Or people using americanisms that don't fit.
01:54:28
Speaker 33: Yes, this isn't an americanism, but it's a pronunciation thing that a lot of people struggle with it.
01:54:35
Speaker 34: And at the moment it's very topical. Nuclear.
01:54:38
Speaker 1: Oh, and I'll tell you what. There are some people in very high positions in government that say the nuclear philosophy yourself.
01:54:49
Speaker 3: A nuclear I mean nuclear?
01:54:51
Speaker 22: Yeah?
01:54:52
Speaker 1: Spend a moment in time out of your busy day on a high powered day as a politician, as a federal minister to learn to say new is it that really difficult?
01:55:03
Speaker 33: And the other one that kills me is particularly which people shortened to particularly particularly isn't a word?
01:55:09
Speaker 1: No, not a word? That is very frustrating that there are so many of them. We should do a list one day. Well, my guest Nigel Stark mentioned one verse Ah Colin verse Adelaide and we have people on this station in the sporting area who say verse.
01:55:28
Speaker 33: And the other one that kills me is the versing Colinwood reversing Adelaide.
01:55:32
Speaker 1: That's that's going. That's taking it to another extreme. I mean, we shouldn't be so pur dannic about it. But it's a lovely language, really, and we know it's an evolving language. It's it's going to change, but let's change gradually and keep the good parts and throw out the rubbish. And I still like gaday. I still think it's to say gaday.
01:55:53
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:55:53
Speaker 34: I don't you know people say it. I don't feel comfortable saying it. It's a bit like mate.
01:55:59
Speaker 33: I feel uncomfortable calling people mate and I don't know why.
01:56:03
Speaker 1: That's fine, But what I'm saying is the things that if you're happy with them, it's part of your language. Don't dismiss them because oh, no one's doing it anymore. Oh yeah, no, I mean it's We've got so much to be proud of in this country and language is part of it. And it's funny when you listen to old politicians. You know, someone Sir Robert means something from the forties and so how they speak and it's so different to you today. So it's an evolving language, is no question about that. But I don't want to lose the good bits.
01:56:30
Speaker 34: No, no, I agree with you.
01:56:33
Speaker 1: It's terrific. It's a terrific language.
01:56:35
Speaker 34: And well, this isn't a uverse me situation. Do we agree on this?
01:56:39
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, literally the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I'm hear verse.
01:56:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:56:46
Speaker 1: Verse is a piece of poetry. Yeah, isn't it that? I think it's something there, yea a line of poetry or something like that. Anyway, what have you got the show to though?
01:56:53
Speaker 33: This afternoon we will be talking about school zones. I received an email from a listener who was very frustrated by school zones at the moment. You know, when you're in your car and you're driving past a school and the sign says forty speed school zone on school days, during school hours or when child.
01:57:13
Speaker 34: What does that mean?
01:57:14
Speaker 33: And at the moment, some schools are back from school holidays, some schools are not. Some schools have an ash in operation, so there might be children there, but it's technically school holidays. This listener got in touch with the Transport Department, so they got a response from the Transport Department about the confusing school signs and I'll read it out this afternoon. But he was frustrated because he drives through multiple school zones every day and is confused about whether or not they're in operation because some schools are back and other schools are not.
01:57:43
Speaker 1: And another thing, you know, when children are present, does that mean like if there's a fence and there's children on the other side of the fence in the school yard, does that mean you slow up then? I mean, if that's the case, fine, but it is not clear, is it. No.
01:57:57
Speaker 33: So we'll be talking to Darren Davis from the Home Safe Foundation about that this afternoon because the foundation has some concerns about that too. Will chat federal politics with Joe Hildebrand.
01:58:08
Speaker 34: Will talk and zach Day as well.
01:58:10
Speaker 33: And I've got Robin Pryor coming on, who's a historian at Adelaide University.
01:58:14
Speaker 34: We're talking about the we all know why we commemorate.
01:58:19
Speaker 33: And zach Day, but why and zach Day and why that battle? There were so many other battles that Australian soldiers were involved in and servicemen and women that without sounding cras that we were more successful in, well we lost.
01:58:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Callippoi was an abject failure.
01:58:36
Speaker 33: Yeah, So why is that the one that was an interesting I mean, I think we've got it.
01:58:43
Speaker 1: Let's stick with it.
01:58:43
Speaker 33: It's fine, yes, of course, yeah, yeah, why, Yeah, we'll dive into that.
01:58:48
Speaker 1: So many lives were lost. It was a futile battle. It was a mistake in judgment. You know, they sent young men there to die who had insufficient training. I mean there was there was, there were no positives about it, and yet out of that was born the Anzac spirit.
01:59:02
Speaker 25: Yeah.
01:59:03
Speaker 33: So we'll delve into that this afternoon and get into the detail of that, and I think it's going to be a really interesting conversation. And then after three o'clock Chris Jarmer will join us for Foody Friday.
01:59:14
Speaker 34: He's got some sashimi on the menu this afternoon.
01:59:17
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Wow, very excited. Good only stay Stacey Lee coming up this afternoon after one. Just about time to go. But before we go, congratulations to Sander from glen Garie. She called in on the cost of medical procedures. And you have one double pass to the State Opera of Southastralia's production of Cinda Raba playing four shows only at Her Majesty Theater from May seven to sixteen. Tickets from State Opera dot com dot AU. Well that's just about it. Thank you so much for your company today and this week. Thank you to my producer Sam Datto for making it all possible. Thank you for the listeners for contributing. And have a happy and safe weekend and make sure you commemorate Anzac Day in the best way possible. Have a great day.
