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Speaker 1: And good morning to you. Welcome this Wednesday, May fourteenth. Hope we find you well on this absolutely delightful day in Adelaide, Chile. Start mind you eight degrees or so this morning, making us the coldest capital city in Australia. But it's going to warm up and be an absolutely delightful day. We have plenty to talk about today, including the women's and children's hospital build it's going to be delayed, the prices blown out substantially. We're going to get to the bottom of that. When the Health Minister Chris Pickton and the leader of the Opposition, Vincent Tazia, the risk of slimming pills ozampic. Are you aware or familiar with that name. It's a drug that is used not for slimming necessarily. It's a drug that's used to treat type two diabetes by helping to lower blood sugar levels. But apparently it is very effective in weight loss. But there is a warning today about using popular weight loss injections like ozempic, Wegovi and Munjara. You need to stay a itt for pop side effects. We will speak more about that as the morning progresses. As energy costs rise, climate change intensifies, where increasingly focusing on improving home energy efficiency. The latest prop Track Origin Australia Home Energy Report, based on almost five thousand survey responses, explores our attitudes, motivations and obstacles. Fifty six percent of US planned to boost efficiency within five years, only thirty four percent understand electrification and many lack clarity on how to make improvements. Households expect to spend nearly eight thousand dollars on upgrades, totaling a potential eighty billion dollars nationally. We'll find out more about that. Also, today we're going to meet a legendary New Orleans jazz singer. I don't know if you're aware of it. Judith Owen. She's been to Adelaide before, she's performed in Adelaide. She's performed in Sydney at the Sydney Opera House. She is a spectacular singer described as bodacious, seductive and joyful. And just to add to the mix, she's married to Harry Shearer, who many of you would know as Mister Burns and the Simpsons. And he was in the original Spinal Tap movie. And on that note, suggestions of a spinal tap movie two Spinal Tap two. We'll speak with Judith Owen about that and have a chat with a little bit later in the show today, and of course your calls most importantly on eight double two to three Double ow we'd like to know what you think about the day's events. And we're also going to speak with the new Liberal Deputy leader, Ted O'Brien. Susan Lee was appointed leader of the Liberal Party in a pretty close vote yesterday twenty nine, twenty five. What is the focus and the future of the Liberal Party facing their most dire crisis in the history of the party, which was formed in the mid forties. Where will it go from here? Will they recover in time to be competitive for the next election. Ted O'Brien has some interesting thoughts and will talk to him about that. This Friday, children at Margaret Ives Community Children Center in Norwood are invited to dress in rainbow colors and enjoy fairy bread to celebrate the International Day against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia. The center is marking their ocasion for the third year, encouraging an inclusion, equality and diversity. In a letter to families, Margaret Ives said it's committed to creating a nurturing space where every child feels safe, seen and celebrated. The event aims to challenge gender stereotypes and reflect the many ways people live and form families, from single parents to same sex and blended families. However, the initiative has not been met with universal support. One parent, who wish to remain anonymous, said they felt the decision had been made without adequate consultation, they said. Parents feel they haven't been given a choice, they said, expressing concerns that the discussions about gender and sexuality are being introduced too early. Some fear raising of jut actions could lead to being labeled as homophobic. They're also financial concerns, with families reportedly asked to pay full fees even if they opt to keep their children home for that day, and that is an unaffordable option for some. So the debate highlights the ongoing tensions around diversity education in elite childhood. If you have any thoughts about that, I'd like to hear them on eight double two to three DOUBLEO. That's the number to ring. The Big Kernawek Lowender Cornish Festival is on the Coppercoast this week. We'll find out what is happening there? It's National Road Safety Week. The road rules and the road rules always contentious and an issue that I encountered firsthand this morning. I was coming into work around about seven o'clock and just before seven it was actually and going along Weymouth Street, got to the Weymouth King William Street intersection. The light was red and I pulled up and sitting there for about five seconds, the cyclist on my left hand side just rode straight past through the red light. I looked up in the countercunting down. I think they are about eight seconds to go before it was to turn green, and he oblivolously rode straight across and the light turned green, and I took off and gradually caught up to him. At the next red light, and there was a red light. I pulled up and he sailed straight through that too. Then he turned right into Wyatt Street. If you're listening, as far as I'm aware, you broke law on two occasions going through a red light. Now, I'll take this up with the RAA this morning, Charles Mountain will be in the studio to discuss road rules. But is there any wonder that motorists become a little bit angry with cyclists. You know, obey the rules, do the right thing, and everyone's happy. But if a car shot through a red light like that, there would be all hell to pay. So why do cyclists think they're immune? What is that about? You know, the rules are there for everyone, and I can't understand why a cyclist would think that. Well, justcos they are on two wheels, red lights don't mean anything to them. And if someone came across the other way and collected them, killed them, severely injured them, that would be a terrible thing. And how would the motorists feel on the other side, who's doing the right thing? Anyway, I'd like to know your thoughts on that. Eight double two to three double O double ow. We're going to look very shortly at that. The women's and children's situation stand.
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Speaker 2: By five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen past nine, five double A on a Wednesday morning. Hope we find you well. Well, it's build as Australia's most expensive building, the three point two billion dollar new Women's and Children's Hospital. Well it's now facing a potential three year delay, according to confidential documents obtained by the Advertising The visual website still claims completion is expected around twenty thirty thirty one, but internal updates provided to the Women's and Children's Health Network Board project full completion by twenty thirty three thirty four. Now such a delay could add three hundred and sixty million dollars to the total cost. That's based on estimates of ten million dollars per month. The WCHNC Rebecca Graham disputed the updated timeline, stating briefly that the project's completion remains scheduled for twenty thirty thirty one. Opposition leader Vincent Tazia express concern. He's accused the government of misleading the public, joining minow is Health Minister Chris Picton. Minister, good morning to.
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Speaker 3: You, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Has the public been misled over the new Women's and Children's No.
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Speaker 3: So, the advice that I have from our team, and I've just spoken to them yesterday and again today, is it was still on track for that completion date for twenty thirty thirty one. And the key thing is that the hospital is under construction now. We've got the works underway now on that site. Anyone driving down Port Road will see that those demolition works of the site have occurred, the car parks going up, and we are undertaking this hospital project which has been talked about for a long period of time and we are now finally delivering it. And importantly, it's going to be a hospital which is going to serve the needs for women and children in this state for generations to come. And we're learning from the mistakes of the past, particularly with the RAH, in making sure that we're building it on a bigger site with more capacity from day one. As opposed to the original plans for this hospital, which we're going to be just one extra bed, this is now going to have additional beds, additional capacity, an additional space to grow into the future.
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Speaker 1: So how do you explain the official website or the internal updates that claim there's going to be a delay.
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Speaker 3: Look, there was an error on a website that the advertiser and the libels found and obviously that's regrettable. But the advice that we have is that we're still on track for that construction completion in twenty thirty thirty one. Obviously, every construction project has pressures along the way, and no doubt with this one. Over the next however, many years in terms of until that completion date in twenty to thirty one. There will be issues that arise and there will be discussions that we have about this project. It's a very complex, big project to deliver such an important, complex piece of infrastructure for this day.
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Speaker 1: But it does seem to be a pretty serious error that gets posted on on official website that pushed out the somebody must have been thinkings those figures must have been discussed at some level.
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Speaker 3: I can't answer for what it was discussed in the minutes of a meeting which I wasn't part of, but the advice that I've got and our Health Cabinet Committee of the Cabinet has been getting regular updates from the project team, and there's obviously pressures with any complex projects, but they are being managed and we are still getting that advice that we expect to be on track for that completion date. This is of course a project which has had bumps along the way and obviously was announced over a decade ago. But what we have actually done in the past couple of years is actually get on with the job. This is a project which was going to be on a site which was going to be too small, was not going to fit and hence nothing seemed to happen for this for the best part of eight years, whereas now we've moved it to this new site. We've got construction works underway there, and this is a hospital which will over the course of that period of time until twenty thirty one, be constructed and be open for the people of South Australia.
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Speaker 1: So who was accountable for the conflicting timelines.
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Speaker 3: Look, it was a mistake. I've spoken to the chair of the board the Women's and Children's Hospital, Big sure, but it is something that was on a website as opposed to know there's not a material impact in terms of the impact for anybody in the community for this, and yet another opportunity for us to talk about this project and talk about what it's going to mean in terms of delivering extra beds, delivering extra capacity for the women and children of this state and setting us up for the long term. So I welcome any opportunity to talk about how fantastic this project is going to be and the progress that we've seen on it.
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Speaker 1: Today you could put the whole issue to rest by releasing a detailed timeline and cost breakdown to the public.
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Speaker 3: Look, we continue to provide updoates to the public on this project and I'm doing that right at the moment. And in terms of the cost you know, we know that construction costs are under pressure right across the world, and construction projects of this size are under pressure in terms of the costing estimates. We have been public about that for this project. You know, we're working as best as we can to manage it within the three point two billion dollar budget. There's no change to the budget at this stage. The final construction tenders won't be towards middle to the end of next year. And obviously you know, we're hoping to get as much competitive pressure on lots of those contracts to make sure that we get the best value for money for the taxpayers of South Australia.
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Speaker 1: Three point two billion dollars even more expensive than the RAH, and it would be reasonable to assume it's going to blow out from that. I mean, building costs have gone up, even if the time frame doesn't blow out. Building costs are going up by the month.
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Speaker 3: Well, construction costs are going up right across the board. But the key thing with this project is we want to make sure we get the best possible outcome. We want to make sure that we get an outcome which is going to serve the women and children of this state long into the future, and that's why we move the site. That's why we've taken this action to build a bigger hospital and to build a hospital which has got extra capacity from day one, rather than a hospital that was going to be full from day one. And that was a big change that we've had to make. But we've made it so that we can set ourselves up for the long term, and I think that's the key thing. That's also the strains we want to make sure that we deliver with this project.
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Speaker 1: What lessons will learn from building the RAH that can be applied here.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think the key one is capacity. The Royal Adelaide Hoot Hospital has been under pressure in terms of capacity and one of the benefits of moving the Women's and Children's from where it was going to be to this new site is that it also gives us the capacity to grow the RA into the future as well. If we had kept it next to the Royal Laid Hospital, that would have taken up what was always to decide to be the ra's future expansion space and at some stage in the future, we are going to need to expand the Royal Laid Hospital as well, and so if we built a new hospital right next door, that would have meant that our ability to expand the RA would have been constrained, and that would have been a long term mistake as well. So not only making sure that we've got more capacity for day one in the building, not only having more clinical consultation about how it's designed, but also allowing more expansion space for both hospitals is a key lesson that we've learned.
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Speaker 1: So how confident are you for meeting the twenty thirty one timeline.
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Speaker 3: Well, we are confident, but as I said, you know, there's always pressures in any of these construction projects, and I'm sure with this one, over the course of the next six years there will be bumps along the way that we'll talk about on the radio and in the media. But we are working as fast and as hard as we possibly can to deliver an outcome which is going to not only meet those timeframes, but most importantly deliver the outcomes of the state needs.
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Speaker 1: Final question, how many beds at the current women's and children's hospital as opposed to the new women's and children's.
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Speaker 3: So I will get those details for you. I can't remember exactly off the top of my head how many in the current hospital, but this new hospital will have over fifty extra impatient beds, which is a lot more than the original plan for this hospital, which we're just going to have one extra bed, and then it's also going to have on top of that future expansion space as well for more hospital beds built inside it too.
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Speaker 1: Chris Pickton, Health Minister, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 1: Leader of the opposition, Vincentazi has been listening in Vincent. Does that reassure you in any.
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Speaker 5: Way, Good morning, Graham, absolutely not. We've seen these government documents that do reveal this three year blowout to the completion of the new Women's and Children's hospital project. We think this is absolutely scandalous. I mean, these are Women's and Children's Local Health Network Board papers. This isn't just the opposition saying, this is an official public document from November. You're revealing that the completion date for the new hospital would be twenty thirty three thirty four, not thirty thirty one. So I mean it's a three year blowout. And Graham, as you point out, I mean for this to be Australia's most expensive building. Quite frankly, I mean details matter, timelines matter, because the longer you take to build it, the more you change the design. Of course, the costs also blows out. So we think quite frankly that this is a scandal, and unfortunately it's taken the to release this information after a leak from assumably a government source. And we are really really concerned about the future of this project under this government.
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Speaker 1: If the Liberals were in power, what would you be doing to make sure the hospital was delivered on time on budget.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've got serious concerns about Labor's handling of this project. We've been asking direct questions in Parliament and committee hearings. I think in recent times there was a committee hearing in February and we just didn't see anything of this nature. So we're asking the government to be upfront about the delivery date and if they're hiding this, I mean, what else are they hiding. The Premier this morning couldn't tell us if there was an architect appointed for the project. We know that there's been a bit of a revolving daw in terms of key staff. For example, the project director has only most recently been appointed.
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Speaker 6: So quite clearly there are issues.
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Speaker 5: We're calling on the government to just give up that full and frame update on where the project is that and give South Australian's confidence that the project is on track because this can't go wrong. It's it's a new hospital. The delays impact not only today's generations but also future generations. There's serious pressure on the current hospital as well. And at the end of the day, this hospital needs to also treat the most sickest of children in the state and that's why it's important that they get this right. And you know, our doctors, our nurses, sit kids, their families. They deserve the truth. And we can't just have these band aid solutions. And you've sort of seen even today's paper in recent times almost like these, you know, these band aid solutions, and that's not good enough. So we need we need a government to come clean on this and this is this is very embarrassing for the governor now if someone has done the wrong thing or we need to know about it. The public needs to know about it so that they can maintain confidence in.
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Speaker 7: The health system.
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Speaker 1: Vincent Tasia, thank you so much for your time hey, double two three double o double, if you have a comment on the Women's and Children's hospital. I remember when the new Rah was being built and it was at the time the most expensive building being built in the world, built right here in Adelaide. And this price of the Women's and Children's admittedly years later, it blows that figure out of the water. And then the potential increase of ten million dollars a month that that figure of three point two billion dollars might be quite small change at this stage. Back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings and good morning to you. Hope we find you well. On this Wednesday, May the fourteenth, beautiful clear blue skies outside phil Good morning, Yes.
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Speaker 6: Good morning Brown. More than anything is how we are paying for this new hospital. We were told when you Oil Adelaide was built that we would be playing a million dollars a day for thirty years. I was on the alradio station in a while, but Polymnais was on this. He said, no, it's now closest to one five million dollars a day. That's fifteen billion dollars for the raw Adelaide. Now, if the same financing is going to be worked on this new hospital. This state is up for somewhere in the reason of thirty five billion for two hospitals. And when you're then had on the seventeen billion dollars funnel that we're building and the savior of Wayalah, the kids in the future are going to be bled drab and nobody can see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there is real cause for concern, Phil, and you raise the point. But governments do have to commit to major projects. Whether the whether the taxpayer budget can stretch to that is another thing. We certainly need a new women's and children's hospital. Are we going about it the right way? Why is it taking so long? And how much will the cost blow out? And will we be able to afford it? Many many questions and not any obvious answers at this stage. From the text line, Steve says, Labor already talking about expanding the new Rah. What a monumental stuff up. They spend billions of dollars on a new hospital with not enough beds. How many billions of dollars will an extension cost? Heah, fair question question When you spend what was a two point eight billion dollars and have a hospital barely larger than the original Royal adelaide. It doesn't make a lot of sense, Graham, with these five to seven year major projects. Is CPI built into the quote or do they just go with today's costs? No, I think the builders would ensure the fact that there would be CPI plus built in. Bill says, thanks for asking the Health Minister my questions. He beds at the old versus the You can't believe the Health Minister doesn't know these numbers of this major project. Yeah, good on you, Bill. Yeah, he did say he would get back to us with that. He wasn't armed with that information, which I must say I did find a little surprising. Unions building hospitals be super expensive and three point two billion dollars for fifty extra beds bloody nuts. Also, the government had a chance to take the builders of the new Wakefield Hospital four hundred beds with emergency and day surgery for only four hundred million dollars. This new hospital is a waste of money and a monumental build. Morning. The problem with the RAH was supervision. Our friend, who was an electrician supervisor was called into the building of the RAH because walls were being installed without any wires installed operating theaters with doorways too narrow to fit equipment through. Yet there were a number of issues like that, the floors that were not capable of the holding whatever had to be stacked on top of them. I guess when you're building something of that magnitude there will be errors. But they seem to compound with the RAH, the new RAH, didn't they on five double a o zepic. It's a prescription medication used to treat type two diabetes. It helps lower blood sugar levels, but recently it's been used for weight loss. Today comes a warning. Doctor Terry Lynn Smith joins us doctor, good morning to you, good morning, how are you very well? Thanks? Now, Ozepic seems to be the word on many people's lips who are losing weight, not so much to do with their diabetes. What is the concern.
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Speaker 8: So that there is some concern just anecdotally about the higher doses of a ZMPi we used for a weight loss, which is the Way Go Be, as well as a different brand called Monngerro And could there be an increased risk in changes from a skin sensitivity, including some that might actually be shingles related. Now it's only been sort of talked about in the community, but I think it is a great opportunity for prescribers as well as people taking these prescription medications to understand that. Certainly, the higher dose medications have only been in Australia for a couple of years and they have ongoing monitoring to look for any potential increase in side effects or concerns that were not seen in the original research studies.
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Speaker 1: I assume ozempic and it's their derivatives are very effective in weight loss, otherwise they wouldn't be taking off the way they have.
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Speaker 8: That's correct, and I do think we do need to understand that the lower doses of things like a zeenpiic is for blood glue coost control and much higher doses of these medications from an obesity management point of view, and yes, they have been one of the most effective medications available to date.
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Speaker 1: Has there been much research done regarding ozepic and weight loss.
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Speaker 8: So agen just for clarity, ozempic is for type two dites, whereas the higher dose way goby is for weight loss. And so although a zeenpic has been around it in Australia since twenty and eighteen, Waight. Gobies really only come to our shores since the beginning of or middle of last year, and so there's more research about the lower take less research about the higher dose way govy. And it's because of these differences in doses of medification but also which is used for what clinical indication, that it can get a bit confusing about associated or concerning side effects.
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Speaker 1: So it's effectively the same drug, just a grammatically different dose. Correct what what side effects should people look out for if they're taking ozombic or way govy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, So when I talk to my patients about it, I've got a little list of things, and I say to them, but these are what we would call the knowing and common side effects, and I would run through them and give them an idea of what to expect. Then I've talked about what might be uncommon but should be aware of, and what i'd call about very rare ning side effects. But then I'm actually saying to them that, yes, this is a relatively new medication at this dose, it's got ongoing monitoring, and so there are some of the signals that we might be sort of keeping an eye out for. Most signals in a potential negative way, but in a potential positive way as well. I'll give you a typical example with WEIGHTGOB. It's been on label for obesity management, but one of the positive signals was also in potentially improving cardiovascular risk in people who had already had established heart disease. And now we do have a new indication for that medication to lower cardiovascular disease. So these signals and are not always necessarily negative, but positive as well. But we need to understand, you know, we need more research. Just because we might see an association does not mean it's causal. But I think it's better to have eyes wide open when talking about pros and cons of this medication because it is expected to be long term.
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Speaker 1: So what advice would you have anyone who's having trouble losing weight and as looking for a quick fix.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think there to be honest, I don't think there's any quick fixes. I think you know, weight loss is hard and weight loss maintenance is even harder. But what is underlying all of this is I think that we have been too narrow in associating weight and health. And although there is an association, it's a lot more complicated than that, and so we need to understand, you know, is this needed, is it sustainable? What are the pros and cons and about health gains not just weight loss. We need to move away from that very rigid association that I think we've overplayed in the past.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the advice is talk to your GP.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for your time today, doctor.
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Speaker 8: It's my pleasure.
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Speaker 9: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Doctor. Terry Lynn Smith RACGB, Obesity Management Group Chairperson so o zembic or as it's called in the Weight Loss World way GOVI are you on it? Has it been effective for you? I hear so many stories anecdotally of people who have had trouble losing weight or keeping weight off and finding it is very effective for them. But any people out there having a little trouble with it, has it caused side effects? On social media, one user said, my doctor says it's shingles and gave me antibiotics anyone else Others have reported itch of your sensitive skin. I think it's one of these things that if it's prescribed by your doctor, by all means do what your doctor says. But if there are any hints that it is having a reaction on you, you can get back to your doctor or stop taking it as quickly as possible. Seems pretty same advice, doesn't it. Eight double two to three double double oh. I'd like to know are you taking ozempic, whether it be for diabetes or for weight loss? Let's know about it. Eight double two three double o double oh. Good morning, Graham. Haven't heard much about the police Grays lately. Where are they now and how is that working out? Thanks? Vade Gordon. I don't know. Somebody listening the police Grays, say Paul. Have they been transferred? Are they in their new home or intrium home? I don't know. We haven't heard much about them lately, but i'd like to know. Hi, Graham schools should just teach kids not about sexuality. Let me rephrase that Graham schools should just teach kids not about sexuality. Kids don't need to know about that stuff yet from Adam. Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned, I must say. When we're talking about childcare centers, you know, at this stage I think that those sorts of things are perhaps left unsaid until they're a little bit older. All building projects blow out in costs. That's par for the course. Now imagine how much the costings would blow out on these wonderful nuclear reactors that liberals were tarting if to make the hospital look like chump change. Good on, Ian, Thank you for that. Hi gg. Did Vincentarzia ever listen to your question? Thank you very much? A double two to three double double If you'd like to take part in the show, whether you want to talk about the new women's and Children's hospital. I drive past it every day and yes, things are happening. It is, it is being built. Will it reach the deadline by twenty thirty thirty one? I always concern. I accept the Minister saying it's still on target on time, but an internal document actually is pushed out the completion date by two years. That's an internal document. He can refute it. He can say, well, no, that's not the case. The deadline is still the deadline, but it's costing three point two billion dollars if there is an over on overrun, and at the current rate, that would be ten billion dollars per month added to the coffers, money that we can hardly afford. What are your thoughts? Eight double two to three double O double oh, or you can text on zero double four eight zero eight thirteen Party five.
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Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twelve to ten five Double A listening to the Brecky Boys, David and Will this morning. They were making a comment on this day. In nineteen fifty five, the Adelaide telephone Exchange shut down, putting out of work hundreds and hundreds of switchboard operators. Remember the old plug switchboard operators? Prompt to the question, have you ever worked in a job that no longer exists? I'd like to hear that. Or were you one of those operators way back when that operated one of those old switchboards. We had all those cords and you had to plug into a little hole here and transfer it across to another hole there. If you haven't seen one of those switchboards, they're quite amazing. But yeah, jobs that no longer exist? Have you worked in one? Do you know of one? The job's are becoming redundant all the time. Have you ever worked in one?
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Speaker 2: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double O double. Let's take some calls. Chris goodbonding, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: You're talking about a weight loss. Yes, yeah, I've got rid of ten kilo.
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Speaker 1: Oh well done in a healthy way, I hope.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, I think it is. I'm not following any diets. I'm just doing it myself. I've been like that for about a year and a half.
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Speaker 1: What's your secret?
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Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you what I do. I get up in the morning, I go down the local oval and I walk around there about four times. Then I come back and I just have a light breakfast brown bread, tomato or poach stick or something else like that, and that's it. Lunchtime, I'll just have a high protein meal, nothing else. I don't have anything. For the evening one, I'll have your coffee or tea or whatever else and that's it till the next morning, and go like that. And I've gone on that for a long time. Do you like anything to eat?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 1: So how long did it take you to lose the ten ks?
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Speaker 7: But I've been on it for over a year, been over a year type of thing. So half the time I don't look. The other half I just step on and go, oh, yeah, you dropped a bit of weight, and that's it. I just keep going. But if you keep going back there, I've found if you keep going back, you're going to say, oh, I haven't dropped much. I haven't dropped much. Don't worry about it, pick a plan, stay on it and that's it. But make sure you do a bit of exercise as well. Like I said, mine is going down there. I'm down there six o'clock, five forty five in the morning walking around the oval.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Chris. You've obviously got the right blend of exercise and diet and it's working for you. Brian, Good morning, Good morning Grant.
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Speaker 9: Just listening to Chris Picton. They said it had been going on for eight years. Well to me that they man us the government's benefit for three years marked the four years. That means it's one year in under the weatherbook government that has started and they've been in the first two years malanius coment. I mean figuring out where they've put the police start, So that's waited two years at least, and as far as I'm concerned, the whole place will cost close to four billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're wrong, but going.
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Speaker 9: By what they've done at the RAH, the total mess up, and I think they'll do the same thing again. They changed the pat the design, they said because it was going to be too small, But I think they've made mistakes and if they really want to do. Put another West name level in. They could go across the railway yards watching a film on TV. It's not a film, a documentary. Last week in Chicago they built across the railway line to the railway station and put a whole skyspaper in there. Anytime they want to actually expand they can go across the railway lines.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you, Brian. Yeah, thanks for that suggestion. We were talking the other week about why isn't there a railway station outside the rah and in fact, now that we're going to have the new women's and children's there as well, a railway station would make sense. Somebody said there was in the original plan for the hospital a station there. We don't know what happened to that. We were going to find out from Tom Kotzon Tannis. We'll still try and do that. Robert, Good morning.
00:33:39
Speaker 10: Good a Graham, good thanks. Just to add to Chris Pickton's opinion on we're going to leave some land for extension now, I would think I don't know if they thought of this, but the way the North is growing, the northern area is growing, why wouldn't they build a hospital out in the northern areas to take pressure off the well Ladlaide Hospital and that land that they've got he marked for extension. Why don't they build a car park there that people can park in the hospital and also it probably could be utilized for when the football's on.
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Speaker 1: Ah right, okay, multi purpose.
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Speaker 10: Well, the Adelaide City Council, I mean a pitcht in money and obviously they're going to reap the benefits for having a car park there and it can be used both for people, for the hospital and for football when football's on.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: Rob had some interesting thoughts there. Let's take another call William.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning Graham. I try not to get involved in every topic you bring up, even though I have the urge, but today, yeah, you touch a bit of a raw nerve. So this conversation that you're going to have with the ra A regards to road rules around pushbite riders and that I I totally agree with you. And it doesn't surprise me what you went through with that pushbike rider going through a red light, because I did share this with leam By to this story. Actually many years ago, back in two thousand and eight, I was going down King William Street. You might remember because it was on the news and in the newspaper and chucking a left on to Halifax Street in my truck, and there was a pushbike rider hanging on to the side of my truck just outside of the view of my mirror. And once I'd turned left, you know, unfortunately I'd collided with him. And you know, witnesses had come out from everywhere saying I was in a mess, panicking and you know, questioning how could I you know, hit him. And cut a long story short was there was witnesses that came to call us saying he was hanging on to the side of my truck, his bud results flew three times over the legal limit of driving a car, and yet I still a year later, so they let me go for a year, and then they charged me a year later for driving with undue care causing aggravated injuries because he almost died, and you know, he got a massive payout through a third party, and I just I just found it. Are still to this day, Graham kind of struggle processing that because he was intoxicated hanging on to a moving vehicle and the driver was still found at fault, so that the laws, Yeah, as a driver, we're not really protected in regards to the push by riders that are blatantly doing the wrong thing.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, good on you will. Look, I take on what you're saying. We don't know the detail of the case, and we only hear it from your point of view, and I accept what you're saying. But it is frustrating, isn't It's totally frustrating that we cannot get an equitable balance between cyclists and motorists and there is aggravation on both sides, which is not always warranted but certainly sometimes can I Tom, yeah, grag, I.
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Speaker 12: Rang up to a wall back talking about Islambik. I've got two distant relatives on it for weight boss issues. But if I may, gentlemen before, I just mentioned about the railway yards at Arah. I was there unfortunately a year a bit ago in the cardiac ward for another heard issue again and my heart lung patient, and long story short is the big scheme of things they can't even fix the minor things that evidently from day one they are conditioning on that side in the cardiac ward facing the railway yards hasn't worked properly. Online there after a heart attack bathed in sweat, this is during stuff. This is January, February walk and evidently it's been like that since the bloody place was built. I spoke to a couple of matenance people and they just sort of shrugged their shoulders, And eventually I found out why there was a big pedalstal fan sitting on the floor when I was admitted there, and that belonged to another patient who had to go somewhere else about three or four hours and they come back and took the fan away, and I had to get somebody from family to bring in the fan. Otherwise otherwise until about two am in the morning when it becomes freezing, you actually bathed in sweat, and the staff is in the right in the middle of the nursing station. They were so half joking theyre going to pinch my fan because they were hot there too. I mean, this is over a year ago. I bet my last dollar it's exactly the same, because I kept being told by different people there it's been like it since the place was built. They can't fix minor thing like that, What the hell are they doing? And the second thing is izimpic. As I said, a couple of relatives are on it, for one for type two diabetes as well as weight loss. Them just for weight loss. And it never ceases to amaze me because because I'm a patient myself, I used to rattle, I don't take a fraction. I on't take a fraction of the.
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Speaker 13: Stuff I used to take now because of all the side effects. But whenever a product comes out from the pharmaceutical and it starts losing its punch and becoming less of a popular drug, they'll come out with all the other positive of these stay fail usually to do with the heart. It has heart protection, anything, anything at all to build the sales, you know, then end of the day, zempic. You know it protects the hearts. But to make cause shingles, I mean, what a load of you know what? Seriously, they're all over the place like, yeah, sorry mate, I'm upset about this because I used to suffer so much from the side effects and I had no quality of life. And I basically I told him in order where to go. And I'm on the fraction of the world I used to take. And I can think clearly, I can talk that as you can see, and I function, I can breathe better. But it's always the positive stuff that come out with this stuff.
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Speaker 14: You know.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, anyway, I've had my say, mate, good on you, Tom.
00:39:42
Speaker 1: Thanks for the input. Always appreciated. GG find out how much the new Calvary Hospital cost three hundred and forty five million. I think was closer to four hundred but anyway near enough, delivered on time and on budget, a shorter time frame, and much cheaper than the new Rah. I know it's a much smaller hospital, but you could build at least six Calvary hospitals for two point eight billion dollars. Steve, I take your point, but I was talking to someone who knows about these things. And when it comes to a hospital run and manage by the state or the government, the parameters, the building requirements are far more stringent and stricter. Not saying right, wrong or otherwise. And I'm sure Cavalry met all the requirements, but we'll need to get an expert on this to explain it to us. But when you're building a state hospital, a public hospital, the requirements are far more stringent. Whether that is a smart move or not, I don't know, but we'll certainly try to find out. Nick says Morning Graham. Any medication to replace beer because it's too expensive, Nick Nick Nick, I feel your pain, Catherine says, I note the hypocrisy of the Prime Minister running off to church the moment the Pope died, and then making an affirmation yesterday at the swearing Inn ceremony and not taking an oath on the Bible. Additionally, the ministers of the Crown did not swear allegiance to the Crown. I wonder if they legitimately are appointed. I would be keen to hear from a constitutional law expert regarding the oath. Catherine, we did have a constitutional lawyer speaking on this very matter. And although they have not and this was on an earlier situation, although they did not swear allegiance to the Crown and God, they did do it apparently when they were appointed members of Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Good Morning, nine past ten on this beautiful Wednesday, May fourteenth. Well, as you heard in the news with Kendall, Olympic cyclist Round Dennis has been sentenced over the death of wife Melissa Hoskins. Seven News reporter Hayden Nelson is at the courts and he joins us now, Hayden, good morning, Graham, what can you tell us.
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Speaker 15: So, Graham, Rowan Dennis sentenced to one year, four months and twenty eight days a suspended sentence which means he won't base jail, he won't be imprisoned, and a two year good behavior bonds as well with a ten month non parole period which would have been applied had he gone to jail. But part of that sentencing so much was about the two children, Ollie and Maddie. They Rowan Dennis, we know what happened that night December thirty, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 4: He was.
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Speaker 15: At the wheel of this vehicle and part of the lesser charge of stranger striving course of death. That downgraded charge, which was creating a likelihood of harm, was what Judge ian Press spoke about in court. He said that at the time it was the Hoskins head was at the windscreen, she was cleaning to the bonnet. He drove about seventy five meters down that lane in Madindey for about six to ten seconds at a speed of less than twenty killer meters an hour. But he said he was very clear about this. Driving a speed with a person on the bonnet is an inherently in jerius acts that was certainly brought into the sentencing. But as I said about the two children, Ollie and Maddie, they want to part of that sentences brought in was that rowand Dennis has shown he is have been there for his children for the past eighteen months while he's been out on bail, and they want to ensure that they have a parent to be with. Tragically, losing Melissa meant they lost their mother and that's played into the Senate thing today.
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Speaker 1: Now, did the Rowan Dennis have anything to say after the sentencing.
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Speaker 15: No, he's maintained the science he's had all through this case. We know that even though that behind the scenes, prosecutors and his defense lawyers have been feverishly negotiating I guess a sort of lesser charge and the sentence while looking at that CCTV footage playing into it significantly. He's had a King's counsel with him the whole time, but he was silent outside court. His parents were in court with him, as well as the parents of Melissa Hoskins, Peter and Amanda, and Melissa's sister Jess as well. Peter and Amanda spoke outside court where they spoke about the fact that they'd been living in Perth follow us it's playing out, which certainly kept get them an arm's length away from the court case. They said they didn't want to They want to have a well mannered relationship with Ryan that would allow them to have access to their grandchildren. They were very clear on that. But they said, at this stage he hasn't apologized. They do expect an apology at some point in the future, but you know, sort of summarizing the tragedy of all this, they said, the children, as I said, Oli and Matty h four and six, have lost their mother. They don't want to lose their dad too, in the sense that he would have gone to jail had this suspended sentence not been applied today.
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Speaker 1: Hayden, thanks so much for your report. That's Hayden Nelson's seven News outside the Court after the sentencing of Olympic cyclist Rowan Dennis. It's twelve past ten on five Doba.
00:44:55
Speaker 2: Well.
00:44:56
Speaker 1: The Liberal Party has elected a new leader, Susan Lee, the first female to be appointed who the position. It signals a fresh direction for the party. The new leadership is coming off a huge loss to the Labor Party and it may be a couple of elections there in the wilderness joining Menawa is the new deputy liberally at Ted O'Brien, Ted, congratulations on your appointment. You have a lot of work to do to win back support after this election.
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Speaker 16: Indeed there's a tough road ahead of course, Graham, given the results from the election only a couple of weeks ago, and Susan made very clear yesterday, our job in the first instance is to listen and to learn. That's really where our head is at. We are united as a party room around our values, that which we believe in, which is around freedom, equality, fair go rights coming with commensurate responsibilities, a reward for effort, belief in the individual, the family, the community, the enterprise, the entrepreneur. The foundation blocks are there, they are to timeless and we'll be leveraging those values through policy moving forward. But in the first case, it really is Graham getting up there listening to the Australian people so we can meet them where they're at.
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Speaker 1: Aw these are the key lessons you've learned. Obviously, the term under Peter Dutton was an abject failure and the Liberal Parties in its worst state that it's ever been. So you're coming from a long way back.
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Speaker 16: Well, certainly I want to thank Peter Dutton for his service and he led the party during a very difficult period. But it is a fresh team. It's a fresh start and under Susan's leadership with me also as deputy, we will be taking the party in a direction which is really trying to establish an agenda Graham which yes it's values led, but it's also future focused and economically driven, and it has to be anchored to a positive vision for Australia's future. We have a rebuild exercise ahead of us, but with that said, we go into this with enormous optimism. To be honest with you, you can be humble and hungry at the same time, and that's how we are today as a party room. We've decided our new leadership team and now we work together to engage and to listen to the Australian public as we reset, so we can be highly competitive at the next election.
00:47:30
Speaker 1: The coalition really struggled with the women votes, and a lot of that was due to the fact that there's not a lot of representation on the Liberal Party benches that you would see it as being largely redressed or addressed to a big degree by appointing a woman as leader of the party.
00:47:48
Speaker 16: I think we've got a long way to go to really meet Australians where they're at, and that does include women who decided at this election that the Coalition just didn't offer what they wanted to see and with a lot of work to do to better understand that, Graham and we need to do that humbly. I think with Susan at the lead, I think she's exactly the right leader for the Times. She's a very inclusive leader and so she'll be bringing the party together. And you mentioned women. I mean, I'm amazingly proud that we do have a woman at the head of the parliamentary team. It's not just Susan, by the way. Actually, if you look at our Senate leadership, we've got Anne Rustin, a great South Australian, together with Micaylia Cash from WA. So we do have a great team. But sadly we had I think it's twenty eight twenty eight Liberal candidates went to the election only two weeks ago and we're not successful in getting through and that's such a pity, but it's not their fault. Ultimately, we weren't offering what the Australian people wanted to see, and that's why, Graham, our first task of rebuilding is to make sure we are meeting Australians where they're at. We're listening. We need to be driven by data and evidence, but we also need to have big ears. We need to be listening understand where people are at today, so that as we are forming our policies leveraging those values, we are meeting people their challenges today, and that of course includes women.
00:49:35
Speaker 1: You've been Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy. You went to the polls with nuclear as a key plank. What is the future for nuclear as far as you're concerned.
00:49:47
Speaker 16: Once we have kanvased the views of the Australian people, we go through that exercise of listening, we dissect the data and the evidence, we'll be making some key to decisions around a whole range of policy areas. Energy is one of them. Gram and within energy, of course, so too will the issue of nuclear. There's no doubt that labor effectively weaponized and attack campaign against our plans for zero missions nuclear energy, and we'll be looking at that studying that we won't be rushing to any conclusion. It doesn't matter what the policy is. Across a range of portfolios, nothing is being thrown out, nothing is being locked in to keep with the exception of the values which unite us. We'll be listening, will be studying, and then we'll be making decisions as a party room together on the direction we want to take in those different portfolio areas.
00:50:49
Speaker 1: The final question, the vote for party leadership was very close, Susan Lee winning at twenty nine to twenty five. Will you be unified into the future? Is there any factionalism, will anything that will divide the party?
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Speaker 16: I believe we will be united, and that is partly because we are absolutely united on those values which unite us. And our challenge collectively is to ensure we have policies which policies are an outward expression of your values. And I believe every member of the Liberal Party room understands that and is hungry to make sure that's what we do. And then when it comes to Susan's leadership, Graham, she's a really inclusive leader and she was making it very clear yesterday that she wants to have the best team on the field, which means that includes some people who would have voted for her and some people who didn't vote for her, And I think that's the sign of a leader that genuinely wants to bring the team together. And I believe the team will come together and we'll work as a united force to ensure that we do express those fundamental values, liberal values, which are Australian values, through our policies over the next years ahead.
00:52:07
Speaker 1: Tedo'brian, thanks for the chat today. So what do you think, folks, Ted O'Brien Deputy leader Susan Lee as leader. Is that a team that instills you with confidence? Do you think they're the people to rebuild the party or would you have gone in a different direction? As I always say, I know if you're on one side of the House of a strong Laby, you're happy to see the opposition in disarray, but for the good of the country, you don't want the opposition in disarray. You want to win an election, but you want a strong opposition because without a strong opposition we often get weak government. So time alone will tell. So what do you think of the team Susan Lee and Ted O'Brien. There they are Liberal leaders taking us to the next election.
00:52:49
Speaker 2: Five A Mornings with Graham.
00:52:51
Speaker 1: Goodings and good morning to you on this Wednesday, May fourteenth, hump day. Hope we find you well. Let's take some calls, John, good morning.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely shell shocked the stave Astraane legal system collect that suspended sentence.
00:53:09
Speaker 1: On Dennis.
00:53:11
Speaker 17: Yeah, what transpired this morning. That's disgrace, absolutely disgrace. I know there's two young children involved, but that's why you've got grandparents and they're around and sisters and all that family. But that's that's just totally unacceptable because he can walk away and of course their mother's life. You know, it's my opinion noticing it's a disgrace to say, strown legal system to just treat someone like that.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I take your point, John, There's no question that the fact that there are two children involved that have lost their mother and if their father gone to jail, they've effectively lost their father too. So I'm sure that played a big role in the sentencing of rowand Dennis. He was sentenced in court after his wife and fellow olympian, Melissa Hoskins, died from being hit by his car. He walked free from court to continue caring for his children. For his inherently risky and Dangerous Act, a suspended sentence handed on by the District Court. Christine, good morning to you.
00:54:14
Speaker 18: Well in Graham. I'm a no nuclear person, but I'm concentrating on Bill Gates. Yeah, he has found some boffins that are making nuclear things as big as cars and shipping containers and they can control one thousand houses. The costing is ten million dollars a day Americans, so I don't know what will be paying. The wires have to be tripled and the towers will be high as the Eiffel Tower, he said. And that's one shipping containers. So that's one in Rendmark, one in Berry, one in Loxton, one in Wakery, and you're paying ten million dollars. I don't know if it's for each operation or just at seven thousand houses for ten million dollars a day.
00:55:08
Speaker 1: So you reckon to be worth looking at.
00:55:11
Speaker 18: Well, it's very expensive, it's very dangerous.
00:55:15
Speaker 19: It's the best.
00:55:17
Speaker 18: The explosions mean they're going to put them into aircraft as well, and it will last a year the battery and then you have to replace the battery every year.
00:55:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you for that, Christine. Yeah, look I don't. There's no argument that nuclear is unsafe. There are no explosions, it's not like a nuclear bomb, and it's proven in this day and age that nuclear power is safer. There have been fewer deaths in the last ten years, and there have been in solar incidents and wind farms and the like, So nuclear is safe. I don't think we can have that argument anymore. Well, as we've been saying that Olympic cyclist Round Dennis has been sentenced in Adelaide over the death of wife Melissa, Melissa Hoskins's father spoke outside the Bought a short time ago.
00:56:01
Speaker 20: We're we're glad the trial is over and short and considerably by Rowan Skilty Queen. It's now time for us to move on, which would be Melissa's expectations of us. Clearly, we want to be We want to continue to be an integral part of their children's lives and their future. How we do this in a meaningful way and a relevant way will take time as we refocus on our life going forward without Melissa. With respect to Ron, as hard as it's going to be, it's important that we also have a well managed, a well mannered relationship with him. Oliver our Madeline deserve this.
00:56:42
Speaker 12: They have done nothing wrong.
00:56:44
Speaker 1: That's Melissa Hoskins' father outside the District court today after the sentencing of Rowan Dennis. He's walked from the court free to continue caring for his children for his inherently risky and dangerous act after his wife died after being hit by a car. No not, You'll be hearing more about that as the day progresses. Good morning, Graham. My daughter graduated UNI last year as a qualified paramedic. Unfortunately for her, there are no vacancies in Southastrada, so she now works in retail. Yet on the York Peninsula where I live, there is only one paramedic on duty for the entire peninsula, and we are constantly bombarded with commercials and encouraging people to become ambulance volunteers. I don't get it. Good on your Martin, Thanks for your input.
00:57:26
Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings.
00:57:30
Speaker 1: It's twenty eight to eleven on five Double A this Wednesday morning. Sun shining Brightley. Oh No, I see a few clouds out there, not too much rain in them, unfortunately, and as we look into the days ahead, still no rain and we always spare a thought. Every time I say what a beautiful day, I always have a touch of guilt because I know if you're out on the land and looking to the heavens for rain and it's not there. Yes, it's a beautiful sunny day, but it's not so beautiful if you want that moist stuffle two Jane, Good morning, Good morning Jane.
00:58:04
Speaker 21: Hello, good morning Raham. I'm not used to this. I used to operate a cord switchboard when I was young and guess what my first job was, No.
00:58:19
Speaker 1: Tell me.
00:58:21
Speaker 21: T Channel nine are Tarman in Sydney?
00:58:25
Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, that would.
00:58:27
Speaker 21: Have been a twenty years old and I came for a working holiday.
00:58:31
Speaker 22: I'm still here, is that right?
00:58:34
Speaker 21: Yeah? I was trained in England for the GPO. Two lots of training, five weeks training. I loved it, absolutely loved it. But as you can imagine, I when I was twenty years old and I've had to get used to the Australian lingo it was, and I didn't know what Channel nine was. I didn't think it was a big deal. But yeah, I had quite quite some experiences there because you get crank calls and stuff like that.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: I can imagine that. So did you have the old system with cords that you had to plug into holes and things like that?
00:59:13
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:16
Speaker 1: To explain to someone who's never seen the system, you know, you'd have this web of wires and you'd have to know, you know, a call had come in and they say I want to speak to the program manager or something, and you'd have to link that wire up with the right hole.
00:59:31
Speaker 21: That's right in England on the big board, I had sixteen a set of sixteen wires.
00:59:39
Speaker 1: Well that'll keep you busy.
00:59:41
Speaker 21: Yeah, and they were like two together, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 23: Right?
00:59:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, look good on you, Jane. Thanks for telling us that Jaine's call was profitable by the fact, we're talking about jobs that no longer exist to talk about. In nineteen fifty five, the Adelaide telephone exchange was shut down and became automated, putting out hundreds of phone operators, putting hundreds of phone operator is out of work, prompt the question what job have you worked in that no longer exists? And we're going to have here from somebody that we heard from on the Breakfast program this morning a little bit later on, who worked in a video store? Remember how big video stores were and all of a sudden, the video stores become became DVD stores, didn't they? And then they disappeared like a puff of smoke. How times change, not always for the better, I must say, Well, parents are being urged to act on early warning signs of eating disorders. Recognizing those early warning signs isn't that easy? Well, new research from Flinder's Universities identified the most common early indicators and joining us now Professor Tracy Wade from the College of Education Psychology professor good morning to you, Good morning, career eating disorders. What classifies as an eating disorder, Well, if.
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Speaker 23: We're talking about younger children, then often it relates to someddy that looks a bit more like anarex cinniversa, where children are starting to lose weight or exercising too much and it's impacting their physical health, and that can become quite unwell, quite quickly at that age. As kids get a bit older, entering into adolescents, than you might expect also to see some binge eating, which parents might recognize by food disappearing unexpectedly and of course using approaches to try and manage that overeating.
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Speaker 1: So what sign should parents be looking out for.
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Speaker 23: Well, we did a scan of websites to try and figure that out, to actually hear from parents and cares, because sometimes as professionals, we think we know what the answer is, but we wanted to hear from parents. So we actually identify two hundred and fourteen earlier Warning Science mentioned across a whole variety of websites, but the things that were most commonly mentioned within like exercising too much. And we're talking here about our children, so sort of ages five to twelve in particular. We were very keen to look at this younger group, and so it means exercising outside of s thoughts and sometimes doing it secretly in their room at night. Any noticeable weight loss, if they're constantly thinking about food, if they're cutting out entire food groups, if they're being secretive about what they're eating, not letting you know, not wanting to have dinner with the family. Yeah, all of those things are things to watch out for. Kids start to get anxious and setting up strict food habits or rules. That's another problematic thing to watch.
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Speaker 1: Is this all triggered by social media and body shaming and you just focus on looking perfect.
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Speaker 23: It's a variety of things. Social media we think has certainly made things worse, and you know, that's why we're keen for kids to be carefully supervised and the types of social media they use. I think also the anxious kids. When there's a lot of talk about healthy eating and not getting fat in schools, we know that can be a trigger for some kids because particularly the anxious kids start to to form those strict food habits or food rules, and they start to obsess and worry about getting fat. So it's you know, and we've had that for a long time in society, this sort of push against obesity. But kids can't really sort of figure out, you know, they just start to get worried about this potential catastrophe, even if it's not realistic for them.
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Speaker 1: We hear stories about people suffering from anorexia, and you can tell that they are over slim, you know, just but they still see themselves as fat. Are they actually seeing that? What are the indicators that make them believe that even though they're pencils thin, they are overweight?
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Speaker 21: Yeah?
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Speaker 23: Well even just sort as are any honest their disease, So we know that it comes to sort of altered brain function and the more that people start to starve, the more their brain starts to sort of harden in a way, a bit like cement, where they become more rigid in their thinking. And so even though they're looking at something, they can see themselves or bits of their body is fat, but no one else can see that, so it becomes a distortion. And you know, we know that parents of kids can say that, you know, their child starts to really worry about being fat even though they're not, and that they are as you say, it could be pencil thin, and they start to invest a lot of time in trying to make sure they don't gain weight or to try and lose weight. And we have to be clear with children in particular, there is no reason for them to lose weight, you know, it's really or to cut out food groups. They need to be gaining weight healthily. They need to have a variety of food groups. And the only exception would be if there's a medical condition, of course, and medical supervision is needed. So for kids, they really need to be able to eat sufficient to the nutrition that they need for a growing body and a growing brain.
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Speaker 1: It can be difficult with children, though, I myself as a child, there were lots of foods I didn't like. I didn't have an eating disorder. I wasn't worried about my body shape or anything like that. But there are just certain foods I didn't want to eat. So what are parents do in that case?
01:05:41
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, you know, I was.
01:05:42
Speaker 23: Another one of those children. I didn't like vegetables or meat, so you know, what was I going to eat? But we know that a lot of kids are fussy eaters, and so in that case, they can be healthy enough as long as you try to get addequate quantities to But it might be that they just don't like certain foods. For some kids, that might just be five different foods that they like, and so it's useful to of course have that checked out medically to make sure that they are healthy. And you know, it might be that you want to work with a psychologist to help them slightly expand what they're eating, just to make sure they're getting the major nutritional groups.
01:06:27
Speaker 1: Many years ago, a very authoritative father would say you're not leaving the table until you clear your plate. Those days are gone, so that tactic doesn't or shouldn't work any longer.
01:06:37
Speaker 23: Yeah, I grew up in that era as well, so I'm well aware of that. So you know I did sort of sniffle my way through the lamb chops and the mashed potato, but still can't have mashed potato to this day. So yes, does you know we do work with parents when a child has a needing disorder to start to set limits because that's what needs to happen, particularly when the brain is so anxious. The child will argue over anything, and so parents do have to move in that case to clearer limits and rule setting to get them through that that really tricky period so the child doesn't become unwell.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: You've highlighted the common early warning signs of an eating disorder. What should a parent do when they recognize those signals?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, well we would. We know that it's tricky for parents because they really there's a lot of confusing messages out there that you know, we don't want kids to get fat, and so often it takes them a while to start to get worried because they think, oh, this is healthy. But going back to my point, it's never okay for a child to be trying to lose weight or cut out through groups, and there's a medical reason we would encourage parents. There's a great Australian website called Your Instinct, which was actually set up in Victoria, but it's an excellent website where parents can work through their concerns and it comes out with sort of a summary report. You can actually take to a GP to discuss the concerns that you're having, because we know that often parents have to try a few times to get help. They can be turned back by gps or emergency departments and so it's just to sase it'll be okay. So it's good if they can gather their thoughts and their concerns and present that to a GP. And the message is really about persisting and getting help as early as possible and finding someone that can take your concerns seriously.
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Speaker 1: Professor, that's good advice. Thanks for your time today. Thank you, Professor Tracy Wade, College of Education, Psychology and Social Work at Flinders University. Eating disorders come in all shapes and sizes and a concern for many parents, but a lot of kids I just don't like certain sorts of foods. But there are more alarming signs than that of evidently getting up in the middle of the night and exercising and just believing that you're overweight and you're not. So parents need to act when they see those signs. A double two three double is my number. From the text line, Look, I'm sorry to say that if Christine can research to find out about the mini nuclear plants, then she can research to find out how these same nuclear units are are perfectly safe. I'm in my seventies and keep up with the latest research, so anyone can. All I have is my mobile phone. Is important to say that Albanesi played into the fears of uninformed people by insinuating that nuclear plants still cause three eyed frogs. That was plain wrong of Albanzi. Yeah, I think we all need to do more research on the matter and don't take what every politician says at face Vatti, whatever their party, morning, GG, I agree with you regarding the cop conference, all the talk about how to be great to say the environment, but the likes of Prince Harry heading in on a private jet and all the extra flights. Ironically, it's a very high carbon footprint event. Terrific to hear your iconic voice no more core flutes means GG is a happy man. Thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: AJ.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty happy at the moment. Core Flute's got a lot to do with it. If all the Liberals who speak in the media endlessly trot out the fact that they are going to be listening, which I think I heard your guests say or refer to at least half a dozen times, I'm predicting there will be too much or won't be too much listening going on. I didn't hear a hell of a lot of listening in that interview, just him saying how much you'll be listening. Perhaps you can get him on again to listen to a few callers questions instead of us having to listen to all that media spin. Good Onia Steph Graham, a five vote winner is not convincing. Angus Taylor would not be happy. We shall see God on your Barry Well. To be fair, a lot of party room votes are pretty close, and when a new leader is elected, they have to rally round that new leader because they're all on the one vote. Example, if Angus Taylor started rocking that boat, now a lot of people had fall out and I'm going to be no closer to getting the Liberals back in power. So once an election spill is called or an election, no matter how what the margin is, you're going to get some disgruntled people and they're just going to have to say, well next time, if there is a next time, Five.
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Speaker 2: Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eleven to eleven, five double A. On this beautiful, beautiful Wednesday morning. Well it's underway, up and running, as it always at this time of the year, the twenty twenty five Kernowek launda Copper Coast Cornish Festival. To tell us about it, Rosin Talbot, the Copper Coast Council mayor, Good morning, Rosalind, how are you?
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Speaker 23: Good morning?
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Speaker 14: I'm well, thank you, such a beautiful day and so much that thing.
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Speaker 1: Here on the copper coat I can well imagine. How's it going so far?
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Speaker 14: Well, the town's the three you know, towns are really starting to get a bit of a buzz about them, with the people looking very Cornish in their Cornish outfits. And there's lots of the exhibitions and displays are already open and so people are taking advantage of getting out and seeing all of those. So it's looking really good.
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Speaker 1: So give us a bit of the history. Why is there such a strong Cornish influence in that part of the world.
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Speaker 14: Well, the Copper Coast was sort of founded on the back of the Cornish mine, of the copper mining, and the Cornish people came here to do that copper mining. In fact, the Borough and Munter Cornish Australian Cornish mining sites have been Sensitive listed for World Heritage listing because of that transparence of skill and culture from Cornwall and how it's still.
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Speaker 23: Available to sort of see that.
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Speaker 1: Today when we look at the first of them, and it's obviously huge in the area, but how many people come up from Adelaide.
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Speaker 14: Look, pre COVID, we would get forty to fifty thousand people here for the kernelic Lounde COVID year. Of course we saw those numbers drop, but then in twenty twenty three they started to lift again and we're hoping this year, you know, we're back to those numbers that we had pre COVID. So there's such a lot to see and do and to experience that real Cornish culture that here on the Copper Coast. We're really proud of that heritage.
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Speaker 1: So tell us some of the big attractions.
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Speaker 14: Well, on Friday in mounta will be the official opening and there will be a street garade and the children will be doing their maypole dancing, which is extremely complicated. I don't know how they skip and jump and run and get the weaving in the right manner and they do a really good job. Of course highlight it. For me, I always enjoy the pasty making competition where we go head tohead because I'm going for a three peep. I've won that for the last two years, so that's always a bit of fun. You know, we have our local member, Fraser Elis will be participating and you know, the patron of Kernewek, and everyone likes to participate in that and it becomes very competitive.
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Speaker 8: Saturday we have.
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Speaker 14: The Village Bear in Cadena where there's lots of market stalls, lots of activities. We have the judging of the best dressed costumes, so you know, people dressed up in kernelwek Cornish costumes. And of course Saturday afternoon is the traditional Bard ceremony. That is a ceremony ceremony that I think I'm right in saying that here is one of the only places outside of Cornwall that that ceremony iss had and that is very traditional, very ceremonial and you know, I find that real, the real culture of of Cornwall. And then of course Sunday we have a Cavalcade of Cars where vintage cars tour three towns starts that Wallaroo, goes through moon To, comes to Cadina, finishing at the Cadena Oval with great festivities and you know you can.
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Speaker 8: Look at all the beautiful cars, and.
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Speaker 14: So they're sort of the three events that then there's so many exhibitions. We've got the art to play and you know, exhibitions of old wedding gowns and quilting. You know, there's just so much things to do and see and really worth coming up for a drive.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, can I get back to the pasting making competition? Like he get some pretty famous people trying their hand at making pasties.
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Speaker 14: Look, we do have some famous people. Last Colonel, we had the Governor, she was cooking, she was in her and her husband were making the Cornish past us and anyone that comes along. You know, it probably goes back to when Don Dunstan was the premier. He was involved and many premiers.
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Speaker 18: Since then, and it.
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Speaker 14: Becomes quite competitive.
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Speaker 1: I can well imagine. So if you're making a cornish pasty. Do you go in with your own recipe or do you go with the tried and true.
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Speaker 14: No, well, they were always supplied with the ingredients and the pastry, and Austin school students or someone will assist us because.
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Speaker 18: We need some help.
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Speaker 14: But we're supplied with everything that we need and it's up to us to make the pastry and fill the pastry and make our pasty.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of fun, So there's be no doubt a lot of people here in Adelaide saying, oh, great weather coming up. Nice part of the world to be. Let's head for the Copper Coast. Where should they first head, Well.
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Speaker 14: Depending which day there is, there is a program which they can download from the kernel we k website which is colonel k dot org. So if they look at that program and pick out which things they would like to see, and do you know, it's such an easy drive from the city. Now two hours and you're here. It's good road, and you know you can come and enjoy a cornish pasty, wash it down with some swanky have a look at all the displays, and participate in the activities of the time. And you know you can have a really great day.
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Speaker 1: Sounds fantastic. Roslind, thanks for your time today and enjoy the rest of the festival.
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Speaker 14: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Knewack Leunda which is happening on the Copper Coast. Rosalind Talbot is the Copper Coast Council Mayor and obviously pretty proud of it too. So have you been to the festival in the past, Let's know what it's like, What have you enjoyed most about it? And can you beat a good old Cornish pasty. Talking a little bit earlier about things that or jobs that don't exist any longer. With the demise on this day, nineteen fifty five of the Adelaide Phone Exchange, hundreds of operators were put out of job. Was it all went digital? Are you or have her worked in a job that no longer exists? And think back to the good old days? Well? On the Brecky Show with David and Will this morning, they prompted a call from Craig, who had fond memories of days gone by.
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Speaker 24: I grew up working in my old man's video shop. We had one of the one of the first and one of the biggest video shops in a laid used to be called north Side Video and we turned into a movieland franchise.
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Speaker 10: I grew up.
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Speaker 24: I worked there from the age of eleven through to my late teens, and just the best memories ever. It was such a good experience working in that shop, and I just got memories like Friday and Saturday nights in that shop. It was jam packed the shoulder to shoulder in there, and you know the blockbuster movies that come out for the week. It was just such an excitement and just a great vibe.
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Speaker 1: So there you have the video stores. Remember the video stores. He used to be really look forward in anticipation, whether it be on a Friday after work, get some movies for the weekend, you go along and take the kids with you and videos. At first, we used to go to the beta section because we were Beata people. The VH section was way bigger, far bigger selection of movies. It all became a lot easier when we moved over to DVDs, and yeah, you could tell which were the most popular DVDs because if it was a big movie, there'd be about fifteen copies of it. If it was not such a popular movie, there'd be maybe one or two and you'd have to get in early because you didn't want to get there and say, oh we were going to hire whatever whatever, and they had all gone. But yeah, they were the day. So did you ever have a job that no longer exists? I'd like to hear about it. Mark says. My first job was a console operator for an hourly rate of three dollars ninety three an hour. Duties including the checking oil levels, wash windows, handling money, and filling the petrol or diesel tank. They were the days, wind down the windows, they filler up, mate. Good on you, Mark morning Graham. In regards to jobs that no longer exist, I used to be a typesetter and can compewters took my job the way. It was a real art that has been lost. I can remember working for five DN in the newsroom on North Terrace, and while the studio was in North Adelaide, the newsroom was in the News Adelaide News newspaper building on North Terrace and I used to have to enter through a downstairs door where all the printing presses were, and the smell of the printing presses was intoxicating. It was just a marvelous smell of molten lead and set by that time, but the smell was quite remarkable. In the middle of winter, the printing area was always very, very warm. Of course, those days of typesetters and printers have long since gone, but fond memory. So if you've got a job, do you want to tell us about that no longer exists? What you did when you did it? Tell us all about it? Eight double two three double is the number five double.
01:21:01
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's six minutes past eleven five double A on this Wednesday morning, but a cloud coming over, but still a beautiful sunny day in Adelaide. Talking about jobs that no longer exist. My first job at fourteen was over a Christmas at John Martin's not there now. Second was the second was Pinnock. They made vacuums that closed the factory kept me on with a new company called Prio Techs. They made shelving and other steel products that closed. Many other jobs none of them are closed. Well, not sure. Good on your gen High Grammar used to be a real bank teller, actually counted money, no machines, went out to schools on school bank days, calculated interest, manually got to know and genuinely cared about my customers. No such thing now, tears from Annie. Annie. I take your point and thank you for the wonderful service you provided. I don't remember as a kid going to school having people from the bank come out and you sort of thought they were pretty special people, and they were, and you developed a real rapport with them, and I think they carried on into adult life and them going back many years now where we thought banks were something pretty special. But that affinity, that touch that we had with them is no longer there. Graham first job was as a milkman's runner, delivering milk to homes before school. Two dollars fifty a day, plus a free chocolate milk.
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Speaker 2: Rob.
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Speaker 1: You would have thought you'd died in God to heaven. How good was that?
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Speaker 2: Hi?
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Speaker 4: Gg?
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Speaker 1: I used to work in manufacturing that doesn't exist anymore. Andrew says, I used to throw the local messager newspaper when I was thirteen. It's now electronic. That's right, Yeah, that's right. The papers were delivered, hand delivered, and remember going out to get your paper and the sprinkler came on and you carried this wet, soggy mush back inside. There was a time that they didn't wrap the papers, or they wrapped them. Then they later wrapped them in plastic, which was good because when it rained and they weren't wrapped, once again a wet, soggy mess. But yeah, times have changed. No paper deliveries like that anymore. Hi Graham, have you heard about this ballot box found in a home in a seat won by Labor? Why isn't this all over the mainstream news. If this is the case, we have to question the validity of this election. I'm still yet to meet anyone that will admit to voting for Labor. Could only adam, Well, I'll tell you what. There are plenty of them. I have heard about that ballot box. It was a seat that was won by Labor. They had a very big margin. I haven't got the detail in front of me, but the box was found, it was sealed, and I would assume that those vounts were later counted. It was an accident. It wasn't somebody trying to do the dirty. Although I find it very difficult to understand that you finish a day day working for the Electoral Commission and pick up bits and pieces to go home. Oh there's a box over there, I might take that home to so we'll try to get to the bottom of it. But I don't think there's any conspiracy. I think the AAC run a pretty tight ship. Looking up the list, so some things I can't read out And thank you very much for your information, Gigi. Isn't this the same Susan Lee that got kicked out of the same Liberal Party years ago? Heard on radio yesterday June. Susan Lee was never kicked out of the Liberal Party. She did resign at one stage from the ministry over some travel situation. I think it was something like that, but she was reinstated to the ministry in the Scott Morrison ministry, So no, she was never thrown out of the party per se. Moving right along New Orleans jazz singer Judah Tho and is on her way back to Australia. Juditho. When you're saying who is she, well, she's been described as bodacious, seductive and joyful. Her electrifying new show celebrates the off forgotten badass ladies of the nineteen forties and fifties. She has a pedigree as long as your arm. She's performed with some of the great singers around the world. She is a great character, indeed, and she will be here in Adelaide performing at the Delaid Cabaret Festival, which is the biggest cabaret festival of it's kind in the world. And I think it's the second time she's performed here. She's also performed at the Sydney Opera House and it's my great delight to be chatting with her this morning. Judith, you're coming here with your show called Unapologetically Judith A one.
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Speaker 18: No.
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Speaker 22: It's something that I decided to call it because I made an album in twenty twenty two which brought me a great deal of success, and I recorded in New Orleans where I live, with an extraordinary group of musicians, and it was based around and celebrated the lives of some of the most remarkable women of the nineteen forties and fifties jazz and blues era in America, who were when I say unapologetic, I mean they were absolutely so proud of who they were. They were so devastatingly unique in control powerhouses, and they were pioneers for all the women that followed. Really, and you know, understanding that is an incredibly difficult time at a very different times from where we are now and entirely very misogynistic. These women were leaders and they didn't compromise on any level. And they were proudly female and dare I say it, fantastically unapologetically female in the way that they performed, the way that they sang what they sang about, their love of being sexy and sexual and being filled to the brim with double entendres. I mean masterful jazz and blues singers and pianists, always at the piano. And so this really is a mighty celebration and the record won bringing to the fabulous Adelaide Cabaret Festival, and.
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Speaker 1: You're going to bring them to life in the banquet room. Now, Yeah, you're no stranger to Adlaid. You've been here numerous.
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Speaker 22: Times at least once, I have to say a couple of times. Actually love it. I love Australia. I mean I am one of those as somebody that lives in London and in New Orleans and a bit where I am right now in Sana, Monica. I always described Australia as being the best of Britain and America. It's got the sort of humor of the Brits and the dry acerbic, don't take yourself too seriously of the Brits. But it's also got you have the can do kind of like you know, really sort of like something young and exciting about Australia. But you're kind of You've got that pioneer vibe to you, and I think, I think together you're it's an extraordinary place. I love coming to Australia. It's been too long. I mean the last time I played in Australia was at the Sydney Opera House.
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Speaker 1: COVID.
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Speaker 22: It's as it was hitting my friend. We're not even allowed to say that word, are we now? Put it back in. I've been told please don't mention that. But the truth is that ideally, remember thinking this is the best and the worst of times. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm playing in the beautiful concert room in the Sydney Opera House, which is a dream come true. And I'm also trying to get a flight back to America, and I'm on the last one out. And there was a real feeling of fear and of the unknown, and it was the beginning, as we all know, of the like the most terrifying few years that any of us have experienced.
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Speaker 1: You've been backed up by the gentlemen callers as they were called. But by the time they get here they just called the callers. What what's changed?
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Speaker 22: Oh great, now I can say this to you as a good Welsh woman. Let's be honest. Fifteen hours on a plane, I think they stopped being gentlemen. I think that's that's what happens. I'm preparing myself for the awfulness of a fifteen our flag with the callers. You know what, I kind of loved the idea they were the gentlemen callers because you know, in days of you're in the forties and fifties, the woman that I love, the Nelly Lutches, that Julia Lees, the Peggy Lees, the Blossom Dearies, they all had bands that were called something and they were always you know, they were the women in front of the men in the band, and so they would call them something like the boyfriends or the rhythm section. It was fantastic, and so I thought the gentleman callers made me laugh because it's something from a Jane Austen novel. You know, It's like I had my gentleman caller, you know, came to upon the house last night. It's all very British and funny, but I think the Callers is something that's something sexy about it. Are in the Callers sense?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 22: It's like Sharon Jones and the Dapkins says, there's something really sexy about that. So yeah, I'm bringing the Callers and what a band. They can't wait to Australia.
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Speaker 1: It runs off the tongue Jude that one and the Callers. I can see, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 1: I like it, yes, yes, Now you mentioned some classic names there, some great artists. Has it been one soul artist that's been your inspiration or is it spread across a number.
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Speaker 22: Well, I'll tell you the truth and as I must, and how this show or the show is based upon. Is me five year old judis short redheaded Welsh girl at home with my opera singer father. It's the truth. My father was a very successful opera singer at roll Overa's Comment Garden in London, Laskarle Milan all over the world. But he was a very unusual and rare man because he and my mother were huge jazz and blues fans, and in his collection of albums, we'd be going, you know, see opera all the time. The house was filled with classical music, was filled with singing. It's what we did. That's our you know, that's our family business.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 22: The other thing we did, which is very unusual, is he had this collection of forty fives that he had collected when he was a kid, and that's what he would play us. And I remember the first time, at age five, hearing this incredible woman who was my first inspiration, Nellie Lutcher, singing a song called Fine Brown Frame. And she's not known by anyone anymore. This is what breaks my heart.
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Speaker 2: And she was so.
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Speaker 22: She was such an inspiration on so many women and artists that followed, you know, whether it be the Blossom Diaries or the Ruthera Fraglas who you know, you name it. If you're at the piano and you're singing, these women were The door was opened by people like Nellie Lutcher.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful Judith. We're so excited to look forward to seeing you. I can't let you go without I'm a big fan of the spinal Tap movie. Now please, I'm hearing a whisper and I don't know what your connection is, but a Second Spy.
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Speaker 22: No idea second Spinal Tap movie is coming out in America in September, and there's an albu to go with it, and there's extraordinaries because I do know him, he as a family friend, extraordinary new songs from Derek Smalls, and I have to say, I'm prouder than you can even begin to imagine. And I'm really happy because the film is great. I've seen it, of course, I've seen it. It was it was filmed in New Orleans and and it's a beauty. And I'm thrilled because you know, you never know when it comes to two, you know, follow ups. You know that those those those films that follow it cult film, it's very hard to to you know, you want to let the fans down. That's the most important things with these guys is that they don't want to let let their fans down and do something that doesn't cut, doesn't cut, it doesn't hit the mark.
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 22: I'm thrilled to say. And my next answer, without you asking the question, is no, I'm not in it. And for that, I am deeply, deeply angry.
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Speaker 1: Than you read my mind. I was going to say, and what are you doing in the movie, but you're not.
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Speaker 22: I actually have one spoken line. None of the wives are in it. The ringers are not allowed. We kept, we kept at the distance, and we're all like fuming and like chomping at the bit because we want to be in it. But you know, we make better better fans than anything else.
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Speaker 21: You know.
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Speaker 22: I got to be on stage as a backup singer with with Michael McKean's lovely wife at all, and we got to do Glastonbury and Live Earth and Carnegie Hall and the Hollywood Ball and everything else besides. So I've had my share of spinal tap joy, believe me, and it has been one of the greatest experiences of my life.
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Speaker 1: I must say, well, speaking of joys, Judith, that's been a joy to speak with you. We can't wait to see you here in Adelaide.
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Speaker 22: I am so excited too. And by the way, I'm debuting this show at the Adelaide Caray Fest so I'm really excited.
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Speaker 16: Graham.
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Speaker 22: Thank you so much for having me on.
01:33:59
Speaker 1: It's been a light have you on.
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Speaker 2: Judith.
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Speaker 1: Judith Owens Cabaret Festivals Surfer Stars. She'll be here in June for two wonderful performances unapologetically Judith Owen and the connection and she sort of pushed it aside there with Spinal Tap is that she is married to Harry Shearer. You might know him better as mister Burns and the Simpsons or Derek Small's in the original Spinal Tap movie. This is a sequel to the Spinal Tap movie that's coming up. The original was in nineteen eighty four, as the have been a greater spread between an original movie and the sequel, so Spinal Tap two is coming up. But more significantly more localized is the fact that Judith Owen is coming to town. Thanks for your time today, Judith great Chat five.
01:34:41
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: More calls in a moment, but firstly from Paul. Major traffic accident a three car crash on Glen Osmond Road, midway between Conningham Road and Fullerton Road. Citybound traffic is diverted via Conningham Road. Outbound reduced to one way only. At least seven emergency vehicles avoided possible. Paul, thank you so much for that. Remember you are the eyes and ears of Adelaide. So if you have seen something on accident or something of significance that you want to pass on to us, Please do so on eight double two three double O double O. Helen, good morning, Oh, good morning Graham.
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Speaker 25: Firstly, I'd like to mention that my mother, she worked in Central she was born in nineteen o seven, where you had to ring to get just a dial time right, And then I started working nineteen fifty four as a trunk line operator. Wow, the trunks, and even Salisbury back in those days was a trunk client and you'd have to ring to get the number, and after three minutes you'd say three minutes are you extending? Wow? And if you didn't hang up within ten seconds, you were charged for another three minutes.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And so this was all done manually.
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Speaker 25: It certainly was, yes.
01:36:02
Speaker 1: And so when did that come to an end, Helen, when it became all automated.
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Speaker 25: Well, I'm not really sure on that because I had to retire from the PMNG when I was married in nineteen sixty.
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that story with us, Helen, who remembers the old manual trunk phone system. Anyone else remember that there were party lines too, where more than one house was put on the same line, so if you picked up the phone, you could be listening to someone else's conversation.
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Speaker 26: Peter, Good morning, morning agoposed to work at Hills House doing the closed line. Oh, the business show Business Sunday. Do you remember that Business Sunday on.
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Speaker 2: Channel nine on Oh, yes, yes I do.
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Speaker 26: They had Senator Button there and he was next to me and they were filming me doing a hills hoist and before the film met to air, so setting up the light and camera watching me, and I kept on saying to myself, Zip, Zip And I dropped my drink bottle and he bent down and picked it up and I said thanks, Zip, And he said, what do you just call me? And I said, sorry, I called the zip and he said I haven't been called that since my school days that I've been called worst by Wilson Tuckey.
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Speaker 1: Oh lovely story, Peter. Thanks for sharing that with us, and the wonderful hills Hoist began in Australa, the iconic Hills Jeff, good morning, Yeah.
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Speaker 19: Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: What have you got for us?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 19: Tell her with the common or faint down out of the mountain.
01:37:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
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Speaker 19: And then as a side gig, we got the service station attendant. Back when you used to do oil water on every wind screen.
01:37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, washed the wind screens, wipe the winds screens.
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, checked the oil exactly. Yeah.
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Speaker 19: And Fridays and Saturday nights used to work at the driving Oh.
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Speaker 1: Right, did you have to wear white overalls?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 19: I'm afraid so I'd forgotten that. Actually you thanks for that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: My first memories of going to the drive in, Well, I was very young and my parents used to put me in my pajamas and dressing gown to go to the drive in. I guess that so they didn't have to put me to get me changed late at night.
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Speaker 19: We had to have people come in the boot.
01:38:20
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's true. But yeah, all the workers were dressed in white overalls as I recall it.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I have no idea we used to do.
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Speaker 19: We used to take the once a movie was halfway through and a couple of rules were finished at Mount Gambia, we used.
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Speaker 12: To drive it down to Millicine.
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
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Speaker 1: So I think that you're there? Yeah, yeah, brilliant, great memories, Jeff, thanks for sharing them with us. We can squeeze in another one, I think before the news headlines, Mark, good morning, good Graham, Hey going.
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Speaker 27: Well, My first official job when I left school in seventy nine, was working not Kellen for the PMNG, but I was sitting there with the headphones on, taking telegrams and then going out.
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Speaker 1: And delivering them, delivering them by hand, that's right there, yes.
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Speaker 27: Now on a pushbike or of old best for scooter. Back then I was. I was lucky enough to deliver them to Sir Donald Bradman on occasions, and you're and deliver them to the old lottery twenty thirty thousand dollars lottery winners.
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Speaker 2: Back the Wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, Yeah.
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Speaker 27: It was pretty good. And as a kid growing up in Bridgewater, we used to have a milkie called Jack who you would deliver milk in his Harley Davison sidecar with the big two stainless steel containers and we'd walk across the road. He'd fill up out bottles and we'd go back inside with the fresh meal.
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Speaker 1: Ah, what wonderful memories. Now, getting back to the telegrams for a moment. Didn't people sort of pay by the letter or by the word or something. That's why telegrams always very short?
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Speaker 27: Yea, there were so many letters from what from memory? So many letters per telegram? I actually still have a telegram at home that my uncle in TASMANI is sent to my mum and dad when I was.
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Speaker 25: Born, So.
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Speaker 1: Look wonderful memories. Good on you, mark Ya, thank you very much for that. Yeah, telegrams often were the bearers of good news or some bad news. So where someone knocked on the door and said telegram, you didn't automatically think it was good news because if it had to be so urgent, maybe it was grim news, and too often it was. But yeah, the good old telegram. You used to pay by the letter. So that's why the way arriving on the next flight stop, we'll be needing such and such stop. Don't worry if I am late.
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Speaker 2: Stop.
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Speaker 1: Interesting times. Who remembers the good old telegram? Eight double two three double o double. We're going to take a break for news headlines. It's National Road Safety Week and we're going to look at road rules with the RAA. So if you want to discuss any road rules, any questions, give us a call out. Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty seven to twelve, five double A and I welcome into the studio from the RIA Senior Manager Road Safety, Charles Mountain. Good morning to you, good on and Graham, and to your listeners, good to see you today. We welcome calls. If you have any questions about road safety on this particular the Road Safety Week, give us a call on road rules eight double two three double. As we'll all suggest when we have a guest in the studio to answer your questions, get in early because if you leave it too late, it might be too late. So to speak, Charles, I might start with something that concerned me this morning. I was driving into work along King William Street. At Weymouth Street. I got to the King William Street intersection. The lights were red. I obviously pulled up, and about five seconds later, a bike on my left hand side in the bike lane came up, didn't stop at all and just kept driving across against the red light. And I sort of thought, is that legal? Should they be doing that?
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Speaker 2: So?
01:41:50
Speaker 1: How could a cyclist justify going through a red light?
01:41:53
Speaker 2: In that case?
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Speaker 28: Cyclists are classed as vehicles under the road rules, so they need to comply by all the road rules that apply to four wheeled vehicles, including stopping at red lights. The location you've identified is an interesting one because it's a scramble crossing. So that's where all the traffic is stopped for one phase and pedestrians move literally in every which direction. And I suggest what's happened here in this situation, the cyclist has decided that I'll switch allegiance from being a vehicle to a pedestrian, and I'll take advantage of the pedestrian phase and cross accordingly. But in a normal intersection situation, they'd be required to stop and wait and obey the traffic signals like other vehicles as well.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that because I wasn't aware that they were within their rights to go through, because I kept proceeding and there was another set of lights and the cyclist just went straight through. Now there was no crossing as you've suggested there. This was just a normal crossing and he went straight through it.
01:42:51
Speaker 28: Certainly that's the situation they should stop if they got a red signal. But in the situation you've described where they've got the scramble crossing, they've basically become a pedestrian. And you will see in situations cyclists at some locations will come up onto the footpaths and ride slowly across in concert with the pedestrian phase at some locations, and that's fairly common on mid block pedestrian crossings on major roads, for example, like port Rush Road. A cyclist who wants to get across wills drop on the footpathway for the pedestrian crossing to be activated and then ride slowly across, which is one of the changes it was made to the road rules a little while ago to enable cyclists to safely get across.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just thinking back. I've seen when they come to a scrambled crossing where a cyclist is pulled up literally got off their bike and walked across the crossing and then hopped on the bike again and rode off, And I sort of thought, well, that seems reasonable, that makes sense to me. But when they ride across, it's it's a bit jarring because we don't like to see vehicles effectively going through a red line.
01:43:52
Speaker 28: That's true, and those sort of circumstances can be a little bit disconcerting for motus because they might think, oh, perhaps I should have you go as well. But at the end of the day, it is about ensuring that whatever the circumstances are, that people are cognizant of their environment and they behave accordingly. So as I said, the scramble crossings are unique. We only have a few of those operating in the city of Adelaide. So in those circumstances it's not unusual to see cyclists do that sort of behavior, but in all other intersections they do need to comply with the signals and rite accordingly.
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for Charles Mountain ring now eight double two three double O double oh. A bit of a change lately with the rules affecting people who are confronted by an emergency vehicle with light slashing? Which sort of vehicles do you slow down for? What are your requirements? What's expected of here?
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Speaker 28: Well, yes there will be as of the nineteenth have made a new law comes into effect which covers roadside assistance and breakdown recovery vehicles. So we've probably all been in a situation where our cars expired by the side of the roapen we have to wait patiently someone to come along and try and effect a repair, or if they can't do that, the vehicle ends up on the back of a tilt trade tow truck and it has to be taken away. Now, in those circumstances. It's quite dangerous because there is no traffic control setups around them as you would expect to see, say, for example, council workers or normal road work. It's no situations, and the vehicle's passing traffic is going past extremely closely to people that have no protection. So the introduction of these rules is something that we're welcoming because it will greatly improve the level of safety for our roadside assistance team who go out and attend to literally thousands and thousands of calls every year. It will require motorsts to just be mindful. That's so if they do see a situation where there it's a broken down vehicle and a breakdown assistance vehicles such as ours in attendance or a tow truck with flashing lights, so they would need to slow down to twenty five k's going past.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are you feelings about twenty five k's Some people have responded to us saying you surely forty k's is enough.
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Speaker 28: Well, yeah, it's an interesting situation. In South Australia, we've always had twenty five k's past emergency service vehicles. It stems from the situation that in terms of safety. If you're an unprotected person near traffic, then traffic does need to be going at that lower level of speed rather than forty ks to ensure you're not at risk. So that's why they've adopted twenty five k's. It's actually exactly the same as we've had for many many years, passing school buses and people who drive on our regional roads and no, you'll often see a school bus pull up at the side of the road, there'll be lights flashing and then people are expected to slow down as well.
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Speaker 1: Does the law apply to any vehicle on the side of the road with a flashing ambulane.
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Speaker 28: No, it's only restricted to vehicles engaged in roadside assistance and if they can't get the vehicle going then there might be a breakdown recovery vehicle as well. So it is quite limited because other categories of vehicles are covered under separate pieces of legislation. So as we spoke about local government, for example, if they're working by the side of the road, they'll set up their own traffic management under the requirements of Australian Standard as seventeen forty two Part three for temporary road works, isn't expect me to remember another dare probably not, but it is out there. There's a whole series of guidelines that go with that as well, so obviously, and that's essential to ensure that people can safely work close by the side of the road in safety where you've got very short term situations and if you think, unlike roadworks which tend to be planned, people can't plan where they break down.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes you can.
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Speaker 28: Get the vehicle hobble it to a safer place, but unfortunately that's not always the situation. And you know, we had a family experience where our car broke down literally in the middle of a lane on Port Rush Road. So in those situations, assistants and people slowing down to make it safe to pass is certainly a key safety element that we're welcoming its introduction.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I have some more questions on this subject to ask you, but we have a caller Marie. Good morning, go ahead, good morning.
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Speaker 29: I heard a conversation the other day regarding parking in shopping center car parks. I've always thought it wasn't legal to back into a car park at a shopping center that you had to drive in. What is the right thing?
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Speaker 28: The rule with this one is that if the parking is ninety degree, then you're entitled to reverse in or going forwards, unless there's a sign that says you can't do that. And if you look at a lot of shopping center car parks, particularly if someone's got a larger vehicle like a large suv or a dual cabut they almost invariably reverse into the parking spaces because it's much easier than trying to drive in forwards, and it makes it easy to get out as well. So that's becoming perhaps more of a common practice that we're seeing across car parks and.
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Speaker 29: Was some years ago so real the why it is illegal.
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Speaker 28: Yes it is, but the caveat with that one is that it must be ninety degree parking. If it's an angle parking other than ninety, then you need to drive in in the direction that the angle is made so it doesn't look like you're what they call parking adverse to traffic.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Marie, thanks for you call eight double two to three double if you have a road safety question. Charles Martin from the RAA is in the studio now. If we can get back to this having to slow down for emergency vehicles and the new laws coming into being. With mobile phone cameras, there was a grace period. Is there a grace period for this new legislation.
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Speaker 28: No, the implementation of this will commence as of the nineteenth So that's why we're getting out ahead of the state with as much information as we can to advise people of the change in the law. Say, PILO is doing the same thing as well as is the Department of Transport, So there's a lot of information out there at the moment to give people their heads up that this is coming into effect outs of the nineteenth of May. I mean, I will say, while this is a law that is quite prescriptive in terms of the expectations for people to slow down, you know, prior to this, it would have been nice to think that if you did drive past the situation on the side of the road where someone was stranded, that you would automatically perhaps adjust your driving anyway to recognize that there was something different happening on the side of the road. So we see this as simply an extension and a formalization of hopefully what many people have already been doing.
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Speaker 1: Now as the rule any different for a multi lane highway where there's more than one lane, No, it's not.
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Speaker 28: The only difference would be is if on a multi lane road someone had broken down, they'd managed to pull into, say a complete off road rest area such as a truck stop or something like that, then you wouldn't need to. But if you're parked on the shoulder of the road, say the Southeastern Freeway, then there would be an expectation that you would slow down to that lower speed as well. In those situations, just on that one. If it's on part of what they call the managed motorway section of that they would also from the traffic Control center potentially reduce the speed limit as well to alert passing or approaching traffic that there was an incident on the road, and people who travel on that corridor would be familiar with that. Probably quite frequently when a truck breaks down or something like that, they will reduce the speed limit to make it safer for people going past.
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Speaker 1: Excellent eight double two three double doublo. Charles Mountain is in the studio. He's from the RAA and he's here to help with any road rules. If you have any questions of him, give us a call.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Eight double two three double doublo back shortly five Double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's National Road Safety Week and in the studio we have for Charles Mountain, the senior manager of road safety at the RAA, if you have any questions regarding road safety eight double two three double o doublo Charles, before we take anyal calls, if we could get back to the issue about the new rules coming in regarding emergency vehicles and slowing up for them and the like. Are you legally required to slow down to twenty five if you see a breakdown at the roadside but there are no lights flashing the current.
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Speaker 28: Rules, you don't need to slow down to twenty five kilometers now in that situation. That's only required once the breakdown assistance vehicle tow truck has arrived and actually put their lights on as well. So that's an important point. And just for clarification, if you also see one of our bands stop by the side of the road and the lights aren't flashing, you don't have to slow down for that either. And just while we're talking about this particular situation, a key difference between the laws that will come into effect them on nineteenth I made for emergency for breakdown vehicles versus emergency vehicles. Is that in our the situations that will apply for the breakdown vehicles is you don't need to slow down to twenty five kilometers per hour if the breakdown is on the other side of the road to which you're traveling. The situation with the emergency services vehicles is you do have to do that unless there's a medium between you and the other side of the road. So that's quite a significant difference and it's an important one just for people to be aware of.
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Speaker 1: Craig, we have a caller, go ahead, Greg, oh, hi, Yes, there's.
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Speaker 30: A quick clarification. He might have just explained the child might have just explained it. Then about multi lane roads and the breakdown on the side. If you're on say there's something expressway, there's three lanes, all three lanes travel in the same direction, have to slow down.
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Speaker 10: Is that correct?
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Speaker 28: That's how the law has been written. So yes, that is the expectation. So obviously this will require motorists who drive this road and any multi lane road for that matter, to be mindful of what's going on ahead. And you know that the vehicles themselves have a very visible for that very reason, so that people can be aware that there is a situation ahead. And you know, we would expect even before these laws came into effect, that people would be aware of something different and perhaps be prepared to slow down, if necessary, reduce their speed out of those circumstances. So this will be the same, but they the twenty five K requirement will apply. I mean, it only applies while you're going past the actual situation, in the same way it does for emergency service vehicles. And then of course you can actually resume the posted speed limit of the road.
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Speaker 2: Fine. Fine.
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Speaker 30: And just one other quick clarification, Repay SA. When they're working on the side of the road they have caution lights on.
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Speaker 1: Sorry who was that?
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Speaker 30: Which organizations repay Repay SA, the community of service we see people clean out the side of the road.
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Speaker 28: Oh, in those sorts of situations, usually they should be covered under their own work zone traffic management RAY arrangements. As we were talking about this earlier on, there is a section called short term works which is covered under a different under the Australian standard to cover off on those situations where you have people doing works in close proximity to the road. And that can be things such as, for example, relaying sections of pavement or cutting the grass for example, so they're covered off, usually under the auspices of the authority that's undertaking the work and the contract that's working for them. The breakdown recovery system or the breakdown vehicle legislation is somewhat different because, as we were saying, people unfortunately have no control generally over where they break down and where they ultimately stop, so that creates much more of a challenge. You don't have the luxury of being able to establish a formal work zone around that situation, so hence the need for people to respond once they see the vehicle with the lights flashing.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for call, Craig, George, go ahead, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Too.
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Speaker 19: Several questions.
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Speaker 4: One, what license is needed for a trick that's a three RUL motorbike? Second question, allowed to split traffic? In other words, when the traffic's put up in a red light? Am I allowed to split traffic and ride up? Not on my trick, of course, you know I'll rip the back rules off, But on a solo bike I've got a Harley as well. Am I allowed to split traffic and go right up to the inter section where the red lighter is, because that's about the safest place for motorbike to be. Do you know a lot of fame.
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Speaker 28: Yeah, So you're talking about lane filtering on your bike. If you have a full license for your motorbike, then you can do lane filtering under certain circumstances. And I think from memory, you're required to travel or traffic has to be on the station. You're traveling at no more than thirty kilometers. Now, you can't do that through a bike lane. You have to do it between lanes of traffic. And obviously you have to be run.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to bike lanes always pa I suppose, isn't it.
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Speaker 28: And you also and you have to be very careful obviously when you're doing the lane filtering motorbike or tricycle tipe bikes. And I don't know if you mean the type where you've got two rear wheels and one front wheel. Yeah, I think they require a I'm really not one hundred percent certain to be perfect answer, because there's.
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Speaker 11: That's the problem I have.
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Speaker 4: My least was I'm getting on and my least was to inherit what's right? Okay, And I'll bet to us sort of find out what license you need and she just doesn't know.
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Speaker 28: I'd be more than happy to take that inquiry on for you if you like, and we'll follow it up for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and we'll get back to you good only Georgia will as as you've heard, we will get back to you with the answer on that. So I think we've got time for a final question, Brian, go ahead.
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Speaker 31: Legal, legal and illegal to have unrestrained animals in a car, because I was watching the Andy Lee show that one hundred last other week and they said it was legal to have an animal car unrestrained.
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Speaker 28: Yes, it's not illegal, but it's certainly not good practice. And if you think, for example, if you've got a large dog, dogs can anything from twenty to fifty kilograms that's the size of a small child unrestrained in the vehicle. So if you stop suddenly, they will move forward and potentially injure themselves and other people in the vehicle.
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Speaker 1: So there are.
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Speaker 28: Devices you can buy for the animal which can then be attached to the existing seatbelt in the vehicle and will safely restract the animal. And it particularly applies to small animals as well. I mean I've had the unfortunate experience where we had to take the cat to the vet and the cat managed to escape out of the cage and then an unrestrained cat in a vehicle is a pretty confronting and very dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Situation as well.
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Speaker 28: So it's very important if you are transporting any animals in a vehicle that you ensure that they're properly contained or restrained.
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Speaker 1: But it's not illegal.
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Speaker 28: The one thing you can't do is have an animal on your lap in the front seat because that is potentially very danger and obviously if you're a driver as well, it means you're not in full control of the vehicle no circumstances.
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Speaker 31: Yes, my jobs are a restrainer kipt in about dosing dogs on his lap while they're driving.
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Speaker 28: Yes, and that's as I said, that's very dangerous and that's that's the one thing it is not permitted.
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Speaker 1: Great, Kay, thank you, thanks for your call, Brian, just to have time to go. A couple of from the text line, is the twenty five kilometer put our slow down required when a car has its had hazard lights on.
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Speaker 28: No, in those situations it doesn't. But perhaps if we can just stress the point that if you're waiting for the roadside assistance vehicle to arrive. We strongly suggest you stay inside the vehicle with the doors closed and your seat belts fastened, so that if something underwall does happen, at least a vehicle will offer you some protection, or if you can get out of the vehicle and go to a safe place until the breakdown assistance vehicle does arrive. But the actual twenty five case spin only kicks in when those vehicles arrive and they turn on there has it their ADM there are emergency service lights.
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Speaker 1: Craig wants to know can learn a driver tow a trailer?
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Speaker 28: Yes, in South Australia you can because the supervising driver is alongside you. Obviously, we wouldn't recommend that as being your first lesson out on the road, but if you're starting to build up your competence and capability, learning to drive under the supervision of a supervising driver is a good additional skill to learn.
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Speaker 1: Just be mindful.
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Speaker 28: In some states that is not permitted, so just it always pays to check if you are traveling into state, but if you can, i'd strongly suggest it's a good skill to learn as part of your learning experience.
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Speaker 1: And finally, with the new rules coming in, will I be able to identify the emergency vehicle when police ambulance have two different colored lights all others have yellow. Well, that's exactly why they have different colored lights. So the emergency services are very clear that they are always blue and red and that's why we have the flashing amber lights. So that's the distinction between the two. So, as I said, the rules that will apply to our vehicles will be the same as currently apply to school buses. Charles, thanks for coming today. Thanks anser plenty of questions, and thank you to all the callers who took part National Road Safety Week. We've been learning more about the road rules with RAA, Senior manager of road Safety Charles Mountain. That's it for another day. Thank you so much for your company. It's been a busy day. We've covered a lot of territory. Coming up after midday news, it's conversations with Quansey. Then after one Stacy Lee will take you throughout the afternoon.
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Speaker 2: Five A Mornings with Graham Goodings
Speaker 1: And good morning to you. Welcome this Wednesday, May fourteenth. Hope we find you well on this absolutely delightful day in Adelaide, Chile. Start mind you eight degrees or so this morning, making us the coldest capital city in Australia. But it's going to warm up and be an absolutely delightful day. We have plenty to talk about today, including the women's and children's hospital build it's going to be delayed, the prices blown out substantially. We're going to get to the bottom of that. When the Health Minister Chris Pickton and the leader of the Opposition, Vincent Tazia, the risk of slimming pills ozampic. Are you aware or familiar with that name. It's a drug that is used not for slimming necessarily. It's a drug that's used to treat type two diabetes by helping to lower blood sugar levels. But apparently it is very effective in weight loss. But there is a warning today about using popular weight loss injections like ozempic, Wegovi and Munjara. You need to stay a itt for pop side effects. We will speak more about that as the morning progresses. As energy costs rise, climate change intensifies, where increasingly focusing on improving home energy efficiency. The latest prop Track Origin Australia Home Energy Report, based on almost five thousand survey responses, explores our attitudes, motivations and obstacles. Fifty six percent of US planned to boost efficiency within five years, only thirty four percent understand electrification and many lack clarity on how to make improvements. Households expect to spend nearly eight thousand dollars on upgrades, totaling a potential eighty billion dollars nationally. We'll find out more about that. Also, today we're going to meet a legendary New Orleans jazz singer. I don't know if you're aware of it. Judith Owen. She's been to Adelaide before, she's performed in Adelaide. She's performed in Sydney at the Sydney Opera House. She is a spectacular singer described as bodacious, seductive and joyful. And just to add to the mix, she's married to Harry Shearer, who many of you would know as Mister Burns and the Simpsons. And he was in the original Spinal Tap movie. And on that note, suggestions of a spinal tap movie two Spinal Tap two. We'll speak with Judith Owen about that and have a chat with a little bit later in the show today, and of course your calls most importantly on eight double two to three Double ow we'd like to know what you think about the day's events. And we're also going to speak with the new Liberal Deputy leader, Ted O'Brien. Susan Lee was appointed leader of the Liberal Party in a pretty close vote yesterday twenty nine, twenty five. What is the focus and the future of the Liberal Party facing their most dire crisis in the history of the party, which was formed in the mid forties. Where will it go from here? Will they recover in time to be competitive for the next election. Ted O'Brien has some interesting thoughts and will talk to him about that. This Friday, children at Margaret Ives Community Children Center in Norwood are invited to dress in rainbow colors and enjoy fairy bread to celebrate the International Day against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia. The center is marking their ocasion for the third year, encouraging an inclusion, equality and diversity. In a letter to families, Margaret Ives said it's committed to creating a nurturing space where every child feels safe, seen and celebrated. The event aims to challenge gender stereotypes and reflect the many ways people live and form families, from single parents to same sex and blended families. However, the initiative has not been met with universal support. One parent, who wish to remain anonymous, said they felt the decision had been made without adequate consultation, they said. Parents feel they haven't been given a choice, they said, expressing concerns that the discussions about gender and sexuality are being introduced too early. Some fear raising of jut actions could lead to being labeled as homophobic. They're also financial concerns, with families reportedly asked to pay full fees even if they opt to keep their children home for that day, and that is an unaffordable option for some. So the debate highlights the ongoing tensions around diversity education in elite childhood. If you have any thoughts about that, I'd like to hear them on eight double two to three DOUBLEO. That's the number to ring. The Big Kernawek Lowender Cornish Festival is on the Coppercoast this week. We'll find out what is happening there? It's National Road Safety Week. The road rules and the road rules always contentious and an issue that I encountered firsthand this morning. I was coming into work around about seven o'clock and just before seven it was actually and going along Weymouth Street, got to the Weymouth King William Street intersection. The light was red and I pulled up and sitting there for about five seconds, the cyclist on my left hand side just rode straight past through the red light. I looked up in the countercunting down. I think they are about eight seconds to go before it was to turn green, and he oblivolously rode straight across and the light turned green, and I took off and gradually caught up to him. At the next red light, and there was a red light. I pulled up and he sailed straight through that too. Then he turned right into Wyatt Street. If you're listening, as far as I'm aware, you broke law on two occasions going through a red light. Now, I'll take this up with the RAA this morning, Charles Mountain will be in the studio to discuss road rules. But is there any wonder that motorists become a little bit angry with cyclists. You know, obey the rules, do the right thing, and everyone's happy. But if a car shot through a red light like that, there would be all hell to pay. So why do cyclists think they're immune? What is that about? You know, the rules are there for everyone, and I can't understand why a cyclist would think that. Well, justcos they are on two wheels, red lights don't mean anything to them. And if someone came across the other way and collected them, killed them, severely injured them, that would be a terrible thing. And how would the motorists feel on the other side, who's doing the right thing? Anyway, I'd like to know your thoughts on that. Eight double two to three double O double ow. We're going to look very shortly at that. The women's and children's situation stand.
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Speaker 2: By five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen past nine, five double A on a Wednesday morning. Hope we find you well. Well, it's build as Australia's most expensive building, the three point two billion dollar new Women's and Children's Hospital. Well it's now facing a potential three year delay, according to confidential documents obtained by the Advertising The visual website still claims completion is expected around twenty thirty thirty one, but internal updates provided to the Women's and Children's Health Network Board project full completion by twenty thirty three thirty four. Now such a delay could add three hundred and sixty million dollars to the total cost. That's based on estimates of ten million dollars per month. The WCHNC Rebecca Graham disputed the updated timeline, stating briefly that the project's completion remains scheduled for twenty thirty thirty one. Opposition leader Vincent Tazia express concern. He's accused the government of misleading the public, joining minow is Health Minister Chris Picton. Minister, good morning to.
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Speaker 3: You, Good morning Graham.
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Speaker 1: Has the public been misled over the new Women's and Children's No.
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Speaker 3: So, the advice that I have from our team, and I've just spoken to them yesterday and again today, is it was still on track for that completion date for twenty thirty thirty one. And the key thing is that the hospital is under construction now. We've got the works underway now on that site. Anyone driving down Port Road will see that those demolition works of the site have occurred, the car parks going up, and we are undertaking this hospital project which has been talked about for a long period of time and we are now finally delivering it. And importantly, it's going to be a hospital which is going to serve the needs for women and children in this state for generations to come. And we're learning from the mistakes of the past, particularly with the RAH, in making sure that we're building it on a bigger site with more capacity from day one. As opposed to the original plans for this hospital, which we're going to be just one extra bed, this is now going to have additional beds, additional capacity, an additional space to grow into the future.
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Speaker 1: So how do you explain the official website or the internal updates that claim there's going to be a delay.
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Speaker 3: Look, there was an error on a website that the advertiser and the libels found and obviously that's regrettable. But the advice that we have is that we're still on track for that construction completion in twenty thirty thirty one. Obviously, every construction project has pressures along the way, and no doubt with this one. Over the next however, many years in terms of until that completion date in twenty to thirty one. There will be issues that arise and there will be discussions that we have about this project. It's a very complex, big project to deliver such an important, complex piece of infrastructure for this day.
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Speaker 1: But it does seem to be a pretty serious error that gets posted on on official website that pushed out the somebody must have been thinkings those figures must have been discussed at some level.
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Speaker 3: I can't answer for what it was discussed in the minutes of a meeting which I wasn't part of, but the advice that I've got and our Health Cabinet Committee of the Cabinet has been getting regular updates from the project team, and there's obviously pressures with any complex projects, but they are being managed and we are still getting that advice that we expect to be on track for that completion date. This is of course a project which has had bumps along the way and obviously was announced over a decade ago. But what we have actually done in the past couple of years is actually get on with the job. This is a project which was going to be on a site which was going to be too small, was not going to fit and hence nothing seemed to happen for this for the best part of eight years, whereas now we've moved it to this new site. We've got construction works underway there, and this is a hospital which will over the course of that period of time until twenty thirty one, be constructed and be open for the people of South Australia.
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Speaker 1: So who was accountable for the conflicting timelines.
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Speaker 3: Look, it was a mistake. I've spoken to the chair of the board the Women's and Children's Hospital, Big sure, but it is something that was on a website as opposed to know there's not a material impact in terms of the impact for anybody in the community for this, and yet another opportunity for us to talk about this project and talk about what it's going to mean in terms of delivering extra beds, delivering extra capacity for the women and children of this state and setting us up for the long term. So I welcome any opportunity to talk about how fantastic this project is going to be and the progress that we've seen on it.
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Speaker 1: Today you could put the whole issue to rest by releasing a detailed timeline and cost breakdown to the public.
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Speaker 3: Look, we continue to provide updoates to the public on this project and I'm doing that right at the moment. And in terms of the cost you know, we know that construction costs are under pressure right across the world, and construction projects of this size are under pressure in terms of the costing estimates. We have been public about that for this project. You know, we're working as best as we can to manage it within the three point two billion dollar budget. There's no change to the budget at this stage. The final construction tenders won't be towards middle to the end of next year. And obviously you know, we're hoping to get as much competitive pressure on lots of those contracts to make sure that we get the best value for money for the taxpayers of South Australia.
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Speaker 1: Three point two billion dollars even more expensive than the RAH, and it would be reasonable to assume it's going to blow out from that. I mean, building costs have gone up, even if the time frame doesn't blow out. Building costs are going up by the month.
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Speaker 3: Well, construction costs are going up right across the board. But the key thing with this project is we want to make sure we get the best possible outcome. We want to make sure that we get an outcome which is going to serve the women and children of this state long into the future, and that's why we move the site. That's why we've taken this action to build a bigger hospital and to build a hospital which has got extra capacity from day one, rather than a hospital that was going to be full from day one. And that was a big change that we've had to make. But we've made it so that we can set ourselves up for the long term, and I think that's the key thing. That's also the strains we want to make sure that we deliver with this project.
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Speaker 1: What lessons will learn from building the RAH that can be applied here.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think the key one is capacity. The Royal Adelaide Hoot Hospital has been under pressure in terms of capacity and one of the benefits of moving the Women's and Children's from where it was going to be to this new site is that it also gives us the capacity to grow the RA into the future as well. If we had kept it next to the Royal Laid Hospital, that would have taken up what was always to decide to be the ra's future expansion space and at some stage in the future, we are going to need to expand the Royal Laid Hospital as well, and so if we built a new hospital right next door, that would have meant that our ability to expand the RA would have been constrained, and that would have been a long term mistake as well. So not only making sure that we've got more capacity for day one in the building, not only having more clinical consultation about how it's designed, but also allowing more expansion space for both hospitals is a key lesson that we've learned.
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Speaker 1: So how confident are you for meeting the twenty thirty one timeline.
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Speaker 3: Well, we are confident, but as I said, you know, there's always pressures in any of these construction projects, and I'm sure with this one, over the course of the next six years there will be bumps along the way that we'll talk about on the radio and in the media. But we are working as fast and as hard as we possibly can to deliver an outcome which is going to not only meet those timeframes, but most importantly deliver the outcomes of the state needs.
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Speaker 1: Final question, how many beds at the current women's and children's hospital as opposed to the new women's and children's.
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Speaker 3: So I will get those details for you. I can't remember exactly off the top of my head how many in the current hospital, but this new hospital will have over fifty extra impatient beds, which is a lot more than the original plan for this hospital, which we're just going to have one extra bed, and then it's also going to have on top of that future expansion space as well for more hospital beds built inside it too.
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Speaker 1: Chris Pickton, Health Minister, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 1: Leader of the opposition, Vincentazi has been listening in Vincent. Does that reassure you in any.
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Speaker 5: Way, Good morning, Graham, absolutely not. We've seen these government documents that do reveal this three year blowout to the completion of the new Women's and Children's hospital project. We think this is absolutely scandalous. I mean, these are Women's and Children's Local Health Network Board papers. This isn't just the opposition saying, this is an official public document from November. You're revealing that the completion date for the new hospital would be twenty thirty three thirty four, not thirty thirty one. So I mean it's a three year blowout. And Graham, as you point out, I mean for this to be Australia's most expensive building. Quite frankly, I mean details matter, timelines matter, because the longer you take to build it, the more you change the design. Of course, the costs also blows out. So we think quite frankly that this is a scandal, and unfortunately it's taken the to release this information after a leak from assumably a government source. And we are really really concerned about the future of this project under this government.
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Speaker 1: If the Liberals were in power, what would you be doing to make sure the hospital was delivered on time on budget.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've got serious concerns about Labor's handling of this project. We've been asking direct questions in Parliament and committee hearings. I think in recent times there was a committee hearing in February and we just didn't see anything of this nature. So we're asking the government to be upfront about the delivery date and if they're hiding this, I mean, what else are they hiding. The Premier this morning couldn't tell us if there was an architect appointed for the project. We know that there's been a bit of a revolving daw in terms of key staff. For example, the project director has only most recently been appointed.
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Speaker 6: So quite clearly there are issues.
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Speaker 5: We're calling on the government to just give up that full and frame update on where the project is that and give South Australian's confidence that the project is on track because this can't go wrong. It's it's a new hospital. The delays impact not only today's generations but also future generations. There's serious pressure on the current hospital as well. And at the end of the day, this hospital needs to also treat the most sickest of children in the state and that's why it's important that they get this right. And you know, our doctors, our nurses, sit kids, their families. They deserve the truth. And we can't just have these band aid solutions. And you've sort of seen even today's paper in recent times almost like these, you know, these band aid solutions, and that's not good enough. So we need we need a government to come clean on this and this is this is very embarrassing for the governor now if someone has done the wrong thing or we need to know about it. The public needs to know about it so that they can maintain confidence in.
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Speaker 7: The health system.
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Speaker 1: Vincent Tasia, thank you so much for your time hey, double two three double o double, if you have a comment on the Women's and Children's hospital. I remember when the new Rah was being built and it was at the time the most expensive building being built in the world, built right here in Adelaide. And this price of the Women's and Children's admittedly years later, it blows that figure out of the water. And then the potential increase of ten million dollars a month that that figure of three point two billion dollars might be quite small change at this stage. Back shortly five double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings and good morning to you. Hope we find you well. On this Wednesday, May the fourteenth, beautiful clear blue skies outside phil Good morning, Yes.
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Speaker 6: Good morning Brown. More than anything is how we are paying for this new hospital. We were told when you Oil Adelaide was built that we would be playing a million dollars a day for thirty years. I was on the alradio station in a while, but Polymnais was on this. He said, no, it's now closest to one five million dollars a day. That's fifteen billion dollars for the raw Adelaide. Now, if the same financing is going to be worked on this new hospital. This state is up for somewhere in the reason of thirty five billion for two hospitals. And when you're then had on the seventeen billion dollars funnel that we're building and the savior of Wayalah, the kids in the future are going to be bled drab and nobody can see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there is real cause for concern, Phil, and you raise the point. But governments do have to commit to major projects. Whether the whether the taxpayer budget can stretch to that is another thing. We certainly need a new women's and children's hospital. Are we going about it the right way? Why is it taking so long? And how much will the cost blow out? And will we be able to afford it? Many many questions and not any obvious answers at this stage. From the text line, Steve says, Labor already talking about expanding the new Rah. What a monumental stuff up. They spend billions of dollars on a new hospital with not enough beds. How many billions of dollars will an extension cost? Heah, fair question question When you spend what was a two point eight billion dollars and have a hospital barely larger than the original Royal adelaide. It doesn't make a lot of sense, Graham, with these five to seven year major projects. Is CPI built into the quote or do they just go with today's costs? No, I think the builders would ensure the fact that there would be CPI plus built in. Bill says, thanks for asking the Health Minister my questions. He beds at the old versus the You can't believe the Health Minister doesn't know these numbers of this major project. Yeah, good on you, Bill. Yeah, he did say he would get back to us with that. He wasn't armed with that information, which I must say I did find a little surprising. Unions building hospitals be super expensive and three point two billion dollars for fifty extra beds bloody nuts. Also, the government had a chance to take the builders of the new Wakefield Hospital four hundred beds with emergency and day surgery for only four hundred million dollars. This new hospital is a waste of money and a monumental build. Morning. The problem with the RAH was supervision. Our friend, who was an electrician supervisor was called into the building of the RAH because walls were being installed without any wires installed operating theaters with doorways too narrow to fit equipment through. Yet there were a number of issues like that, the floors that were not capable of the holding whatever had to be stacked on top of them. I guess when you're building something of that magnitude there will be errors. But they seem to compound with the RAH, the new RAH, didn't they on five double a o zepic. It's a prescription medication used to treat type two diabetes. It helps lower blood sugar levels, but recently it's been used for weight loss. Today comes a warning. Doctor Terry Lynn Smith joins us doctor, good morning to you, good morning, how are you very well? Thanks? Now, Ozepic seems to be the word on many people's lips who are losing weight, not so much to do with their diabetes. What is the concern.
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Speaker 8: So that there is some concern just anecdotally about the higher doses of a ZMPi we used for a weight loss, which is the Way Go Be, as well as a different brand called Monngerro And could there be an increased risk in changes from a skin sensitivity, including some that might actually be shingles related. Now it's only been sort of talked about in the community, but I think it is a great opportunity for prescribers as well as people taking these prescription medications to understand that. Certainly, the higher dose medications have only been in Australia for a couple of years and they have ongoing monitoring to look for any potential increase in side effects or concerns that were not seen in the original research studies.
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Speaker 1: I assume ozempic and it's their derivatives are very effective in weight loss, otherwise they wouldn't be taking off the way they have.
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Speaker 8: That's correct, and I do think we do need to understand that the lower doses of things like a zeenpiic is for blood glue coost control and much higher doses of these medications from an obesity management point of view, and yes, they have been one of the most effective medications available to date.
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Speaker 1: Has there been much research done regarding ozepic and weight loss.
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Speaker 8: So agen just for clarity, ozempic is for type two dites, whereas the higher dose way goby is for weight loss. And so although a zeenpic has been around it in Australia since twenty and eighteen, Waight. Gobies really only come to our shores since the beginning of or middle of last year, and so there's more research about the lower take less research about the higher dose way govy. And it's because of these differences in doses of medification but also which is used for what clinical indication, that it can get a bit confusing about associated or concerning side effects.
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Speaker 1: So it's effectively the same drug, just a grammatically different dose. Correct what what side effects should people look out for if they're taking ozombic or way govy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, So when I talk to my patients about it, I've got a little list of things, and I say to them, but these are what we would call the knowing and common side effects, and I would run through them and give them an idea of what to expect. Then I've talked about what might be uncommon but should be aware of, and what i'd call about very rare ning side effects. But then I'm actually saying to them that, yes, this is a relatively new medication at this dose, it's got ongoing monitoring, and so there are some of the signals that we might be sort of keeping an eye out for. Most signals in a potential negative way, but in a potential positive way as well. I'll give you a typical example with WEIGHTGOB. It's been on label for obesity management, but one of the positive signals was also in potentially improving cardiovascular risk in people who had already had established heart disease. And now we do have a new indication for that medication to lower cardiovascular disease. So these signals and are not always necessarily negative, but positive as well. But we need to understand, you know, we need more research. Just because we might see an association does not mean it's causal. But I think it's better to have eyes wide open when talking about pros and cons of this medication because it is expected to be long term.
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Speaker 1: So what advice would you have anyone who's having trouble losing weight and as looking for a quick fix.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think there to be honest, I don't think there's any quick fixes. I think you know, weight loss is hard and weight loss maintenance is even harder. But what is underlying all of this is I think that we have been too narrow in associating weight and health. And although there is an association, it's a lot more complicated than that, and so we need to understand, you know, is this needed, is it sustainable? What are the pros and cons and about health gains not just weight loss. We need to move away from that very rigid association that I think we've overplayed in the past.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the advice is talk to your GP.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for your time today, doctor.
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Speaker 8: It's my pleasure.
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Speaker 9: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Doctor. Terry Lynn Smith RACGB, Obesity Management Group Chairperson so o zembic or as it's called in the Weight Loss World way GOVI are you on it? Has it been effective for you? I hear so many stories anecdotally of people who have had trouble losing weight or keeping weight off and finding it is very effective for them. But any people out there having a little trouble with it, has it caused side effects? On social media, one user said, my doctor says it's shingles and gave me antibiotics anyone else Others have reported itch of your sensitive skin. I think it's one of these things that if it's prescribed by your doctor, by all means do what your doctor says. But if there are any hints that it is having a reaction on you, you can get back to your doctor or stop taking it as quickly as possible. Seems pretty same advice, doesn't it. Eight double two to three double double oh. I'd like to know are you taking ozempic, whether it be for diabetes or for weight loss? Let's know about it. Eight double two three double o double oh. Good morning, Graham. Haven't heard much about the police Grays lately. Where are they now and how is that working out? Thanks? Vade Gordon. I don't know. Somebody listening the police Grays, say Paul. Have they been transferred? Are they in their new home or intrium home? I don't know. We haven't heard much about them lately, but i'd like to know. Hi, Graham schools should just teach kids not about sexuality. Let me rephrase that Graham schools should just teach kids not about sexuality. Kids don't need to know about that stuff yet from Adam. Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned, I must say. When we're talking about childcare centers, you know, at this stage I think that those sorts of things are perhaps left unsaid until they're a little bit older. All building projects blow out in costs. That's par for the course. Now imagine how much the costings would blow out on these wonderful nuclear reactors that liberals were tarting if to make the hospital look like chump change. Good on, Ian, Thank you for that. Hi gg. Did Vincentarzia ever listen to your question? Thank you very much? A double two to three double double If you'd like to take part in the show, whether you want to talk about the new women's and Children's hospital. I drive past it every day and yes, things are happening. It is, it is being built. Will it reach the deadline by twenty thirty thirty one? I always concern. I accept the Minister saying it's still on target on time, but an internal document actually is pushed out the completion date by two years. That's an internal document. He can refute it. He can say, well, no, that's not the case. The deadline is still the deadline, but it's costing three point two billion dollars if there is an over on overrun, and at the current rate, that would be ten billion dollars per month added to the coffers, money that we can hardly afford. What are your thoughts? Eight double two to three double O double oh, or you can text on zero double four eight zero eight thirteen Party five.
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Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Twelve to ten five Double A listening to the Brecky Boys, David and Will this morning. They were making a comment on this day. In nineteen fifty five, the Adelaide telephone Exchange shut down, putting out of work hundreds and hundreds of switchboard operators. Remember the old plug switchboard operators? Prompt to the question, have you ever worked in a job that no longer exists? I'd like to hear that. Or were you one of those operators way back when that operated one of those old switchboards. We had all those cords and you had to plug into a little hole here and transfer it across to another hole there. If you haven't seen one of those switchboards, they're quite amazing. But yeah, jobs that no longer exist? Have you worked in one? Do you know of one? The job's are becoming redundant all the time. Have you ever worked in one?
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Speaker 2: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double O double. Let's take some calls. Chris goodbonding, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: You're talking about a weight loss. Yes, yeah, I've got rid of ten kilo.
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Speaker 1: Oh well done in a healthy way, I hope.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, I think it is. I'm not following any diets. I'm just doing it myself. I've been like that for about a year and a half.
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Speaker 1: What's your secret?
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Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you what I do. I get up in the morning, I go down the local oval and I walk around there about four times. Then I come back and I just have a light breakfast brown bread, tomato or poach stick or something else like that, and that's it. Lunchtime, I'll just have a high protein meal, nothing else. I don't have anything. For the evening one, I'll have your coffee or tea or whatever else and that's it till the next morning, and go like that. And I've gone on that for a long time. Do you like anything to eat?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 1: So how long did it take you to lose the ten ks?
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Speaker 7: But I've been on it for over a year, been over a year type of thing. So half the time I don't look. The other half I just step on and go, oh, yeah, you dropped a bit of weight, and that's it. I just keep going. But if you keep going back there, I've found if you keep going back, you're going to say, oh, I haven't dropped much. I haven't dropped much. Don't worry about it, pick a plan, stay on it and that's it. But make sure you do a bit of exercise as well. Like I said, mine is going down there. I'm down there six o'clock, five forty five in the morning walking around the oval.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Chris. You've obviously got the right blend of exercise and diet and it's working for you. Brian, Good morning, Good morning Grant.
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Speaker 9: Just listening to Chris Picton. They said it had been going on for eight years. Well to me that they man us the government's benefit for three years marked the four years. That means it's one year in under the weatherbook government that has started and they've been in the first two years malanius coment. I mean figuring out where they've put the police start, So that's waited two years at least, and as far as I'm concerned, the whole place will cost close to four billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're wrong, but going.
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Speaker 9: By what they've done at the RAH, the total mess up, and I think they'll do the same thing again. They changed the pat the design, they said because it was going to be too small, But I think they've made mistakes and if they really want to do. Put another West name level in. They could go across the railway yards watching a film on TV. It's not a film, a documentary. Last week in Chicago they built across the railway line to the railway station and put a whole skyspaper in there. Anytime they want to actually expand they can go across the railway lines.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you, Brian. Yeah, thanks for that suggestion. We were talking the other week about why isn't there a railway station outside the rah and in fact, now that we're going to have the new women's and children's there as well, a railway station would make sense. Somebody said there was in the original plan for the hospital a station there. We don't know what happened to that. We were going to find out from Tom Kotzon Tannis. We'll still try and do that. Robert, Good morning.
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Speaker 10: Good a Graham, good thanks. Just to add to Chris Pickton's opinion on we're going to leave some land for extension now, I would think I don't know if they thought of this, but the way the North is growing, the northern area is growing, why wouldn't they build a hospital out in the northern areas to take pressure off the well Ladlaide Hospital and that land that they've got he marked for extension. Why don't they build a car park there that people can park in the hospital and also it probably could be utilized for when the football's on.
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Speaker 1: Ah right, okay, multi purpose.
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Speaker 10: Well, the Adelaide City Council, I mean a pitcht in money and obviously they're going to reap the benefits for having a car park there and it can be used both for people, for the hospital and for football when football's on.
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Speaker 1: Rob had some interesting thoughts there. Let's take another call William.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning Graham. I try not to get involved in every topic you bring up, even though I have the urge, but today, yeah, you touch a bit of a raw nerve. So this conversation that you're going to have with the ra A regards to road rules around pushbite riders and that I I totally agree with you. And it doesn't surprise me what you went through with that pushbike rider going through a red light, because I did share this with leam By to this story. Actually many years ago, back in two thousand and eight, I was going down King William Street. You might remember because it was on the news and in the newspaper and chucking a left on to Halifax Street in my truck, and there was a pushbike rider hanging on to the side of my truck just outside of the view of my mirror. And once I'd turned left, you know, unfortunately I'd collided with him. And you know, witnesses had come out from everywhere saying I was in a mess, panicking and you know, questioning how could I you know, hit him. And cut a long story short was there was witnesses that came to call us saying he was hanging on to the side of my truck, his bud results flew three times over the legal limit of driving a car, and yet I still a year later, so they let me go for a year, and then they charged me a year later for driving with undue care causing aggravated injuries because he almost died, and you know, he got a massive payout through a third party, and I just I just found it. Are still to this day, Graham kind of struggle processing that because he was intoxicated hanging on to a moving vehicle and the driver was still found at fault, so that the laws, Yeah, as a driver, we're not really protected in regards to the push by riders that are blatantly doing the wrong thing.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, good on you will. Look, I take on what you're saying. We don't know the detail of the case, and we only hear it from your point of view, and I accept what you're saying. But it is frustrating, isn't It's totally frustrating that we cannot get an equitable balance between cyclists and motorists and there is aggravation on both sides, which is not always warranted but certainly sometimes can I Tom, yeah, grag, I.
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Speaker 12: Rang up to a wall back talking about Islambik. I've got two distant relatives on it for weight boss issues. But if I may, gentlemen before, I just mentioned about the railway yards at Arah. I was there unfortunately a year a bit ago in the cardiac ward for another heard issue again and my heart lung patient, and long story short is the big scheme of things they can't even fix the minor things that evidently from day one they are conditioning on that side in the cardiac ward facing the railway yards hasn't worked properly. Online there after a heart attack bathed in sweat, this is during stuff. This is January, February walk and evidently it's been like that since the bloody place was built. I spoke to a couple of matenance people and they just sort of shrugged their shoulders, And eventually I found out why there was a big pedalstal fan sitting on the floor when I was admitted there, and that belonged to another patient who had to go somewhere else about three or four hours and they come back and took the fan away, and I had to get somebody from family to bring in the fan. Otherwise otherwise until about two am in the morning when it becomes freezing, you actually bathed in sweat, and the staff is in the right in the middle of the nursing station. They were so half joking theyre going to pinch my fan because they were hot there too. I mean, this is over a year ago. I bet my last dollar it's exactly the same, because I kept being told by different people there it's been like it since the place was built. They can't fix minor thing like that, What the hell are they doing? And the second thing is izimpic. As I said, a couple of relatives are on it, for one for type two diabetes as well as weight loss. Them just for weight loss. And it never ceases to amaze me because because I'm a patient myself, I used to rattle, I don't take a fraction. I on't take a fraction of the.
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Speaker 13: Stuff I used to take now because of all the side effects. But whenever a product comes out from the pharmaceutical and it starts losing its punch and becoming less of a popular drug, they'll come out with all the other positive of these stay fail usually to do with the heart. It has heart protection, anything, anything at all to build the sales, you know, then end of the day, zempic. You know it protects the hearts. But to make cause shingles, I mean, what a load of you know what? Seriously, they're all over the place like, yeah, sorry mate, I'm upset about this because I used to suffer so much from the side effects and I had no quality of life. And I basically I told him in order where to go. And I'm on the fraction of the world I used to take. And I can think clearly, I can talk that as you can see, and I function, I can breathe better. But it's always the positive stuff that come out with this stuff.
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Speaker 14: You know.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, anyway, I've had my say, mate, good on you, Tom.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the input. Always appreciated. GG find out how much the new Calvary Hospital cost three hundred and forty five million. I think was closer to four hundred but anyway near enough, delivered on time and on budget, a shorter time frame, and much cheaper than the new Rah. I know it's a much smaller hospital, but you could build at least six Calvary hospitals for two point eight billion dollars. Steve, I take your point, but I was talking to someone who knows about these things. And when it comes to a hospital run and manage by the state or the government, the parameters, the building requirements are far more stringent and stricter. Not saying right, wrong or otherwise. And I'm sure Cavalry met all the requirements, but we'll need to get an expert on this to explain it to us. But when you're building a state hospital, a public hospital, the requirements are far more stringent. Whether that is a smart move or not, I don't know, but we'll certainly try to find out. Nick says Morning Graham. Any medication to replace beer because it's too expensive, Nick Nick Nick, I feel your pain, Catherine says, I note the hypocrisy of the Prime Minister running off to church the moment the Pope died, and then making an affirmation yesterday at the swearing Inn ceremony and not taking an oath on the Bible. Additionally, the ministers of the Crown did not swear allegiance to the Crown. I wonder if they legitimately are appointed. I would be keen to hear from a constitutional law expert regarding the oath. Catherine, we did have a constitutional lawyer speaking on this very matter. And although they have not and this was on an earlier situation, although they did not swear allegiance to the Crown and God, they did do it apparently when they were appointed members of Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Good Morning, nine past ten on this beautiful Wednesday, May fourteenth. Well, as you heard in the news with Kendall, Olympic cyclist Round Dennis has been sentenced over the death of wife Melissa Hoskins. Seven News reporter Hayden Nelson is at the courts and he joins us now, Hayden, good morning, Graham, what can you tell us.
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Speaker 15: So, Graham, Rowan Dennis sentenced to one year, four months and twenty eight days a suspended sentence which means he won't base jail, he won't be imprisoned, and a two year good behavior bonds as well with a ten month non parole period which would have been applied had he gone to jail. But part of that sentencing so much was about the two children, Ollie and Maddie. They Rowan Dennis, we know what happened that night December thirty, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 4: He was.
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Speaker 15: At the wheel of this vehicle and part of the lesser charge of stranger striving course of death. That downgraded charge, which was creating a likelihood of harm, was what Judge ian Press spoke about in court. He said that at the time it was the Hoskins head was at the windscreen, she was cleaning to the bonnet. He drove about seventy five meters down that lane in Madindey for about six to ten seconds at a speed of less than twenty killer meters an hour. But he said he was very clear about this. Driving a speed with a person on the bonnet is an inherently in jerius acts that was certainly brought into the sentencing. But as I said about the two children, Ollie and Maddie, they want to part of that sentences brought in was that rowand Dennis has shown he is have been there for his children for the past eighteen months while he's been out on bail, and they want to ensure that they have a parent to be with. Tragically, losing Melissa meant they lost their mother and that's played into the Senate thing today.
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Speaker 1: Now, did the Rowan Dennis have anything to say after the sentencing.
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Speaker 15: No, he's maintained the science he's had all through this case. We know that even though that behind the scenes, prosecutors and his defense lawyers have been feverishly negotiating I guess a sort of lesser charge and the sentence while looking at that CCTV footage playing into it significantly. He's had a King's counsel with him the whole time, but he was silent outside court. His parents were in court with him, as well as the parents of Melissa Hoskins, Peter and Amanda, and Melissa's sister Jess as well. Peter and Amanda spoke outside court where they spoke about the fact that they'd been living in Perth follow us it's playing out, which certainly kept get them an arm's length away from the court case. They said they didn't want to They want to have a well mannered relationship with Ryan that would allow them to have access to their grandchildren. They were very clear on that. But they said, at this stage he hasn't apologized. They do expect an apology at some point in the future, but you know, sort of summarizing the tragedy of all this, they said, the children, as I said, Oli and Matty h four and six, have lost their mother. They don't want to lose their dad too, in the sense that he would have gone to jail had this suspended sentence not been applied today.
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Speaker 1: Hayden, thanks so much for your report. That's Hayden Nelson's seven News outside the Court after the sentencing of Olympic cyclist Rowan Dennis. It's twelve past ten on five Doba.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: The Liberal Party has elected a new leader, Susan Lee, the first female to be appointed who the position. It signals a fresh direction for the party. The new leadership is coming off a huge loss to the Labor Party and it may be a couple of elections there in the wilderness joining Menawa is the new deputy liberally at Ted O'Brien, Ted, congratulations on your appointment. You have a lot of work to do to win back support after this election.
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Speaker 16: Indeed there's a tough road ahead of course, Graham, given the results from the election only a couple of weeks ago, and Susan made very clear yesterday, our job in the first instance is to listen and to learn. That's really where our head is at. We are united as a party room around our values, that which we believe in, which is around freedom, equality, fair go rights coming with commensurate responsibilities, a reward for effort, belief in the individual, the family, the community, the enterprise, the entrepreneur. The foundation blocks are there, they are to timeless and we'll be leveraging those values through policy moving forward. But in the first case, it really is Graham getting up there listening to the Australian people so we can meet them where they're at.
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Speaker 1: Aw these are the key lessons you've learned. Obviously, the term under Peter Dutton was an abject failure and the Liberal Parties in its worst state that it's ever been. So you're coming from a long way back.
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Speaker 16: Well, certainly I want to thank Peter Dutton for his service and he led the party during a very difficult period. But it is a fresh team. It's a fresh start and under Susan's leadership with me also as deputy, we will be taking the party in a direction which is really trying to establish an agenda Graham which yes it's values led, but it's also future focused and economically driven, and it has to be anchored to a positive vision for Australia's future. We have a rebuild exercise ahead of us, but with that said, we go into this with enormous optimism. To be honest with you, you can be humble and hungry at the same time, and that's how we are today as a party room. We've decided our new leadership team and now we work together to engage and to listen to the Australian public as we reset, so we can be highly competitive at the next election.
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Speaker 1: The coalition really struggled with the women votes, and a lot of that was due to the fact that there's not a lot of representation on the Liberal Party benches that you would see it as being largely redressed or addressed to a big degree by appointing a woman as leader of the party.
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Speaker 16: I think we've got a long way to go to really meet Australians where they're at, and that does include women who decided at this election that the Coalition just didn't offer what they wanted to see and with a lot of work to do to better understand that, Graham and we need to do that humbly. I think with Susan at the lead, I think she's exactly the right leader for the Times. She's a very inclusive leader and so she'll be bringing the party together. And you mentioned women. I mean, I'm amazingly proud that we do have a woman at the head of the parliamentary team. It's not just Susan, by the way. Actually, if you look at our Senate leadership, we've got Anne Rustin, a great South Australian, together with Micaylia Cash from WA. So we do have a great team. But sadly we had I think it's twenty eight twenty eight Liberal candidates went to the election only two weeks ago and we're not successful in getting through and that's such a pity, but it's not their fault. Ultimately, we weren't offering what the Australian people wanted to see, and that's why, Graham, our first task of rebuilding is to make sure we are meeting Australians where they're at. We're listening. We need to be driven by data and evidence, but we also need to have big ears. We need to be listening understand where people are at today, so that as we are forming our policies leveraging those values, we are meeting people their challenges today, and that of course includes women.
00:49:35
Speaker 1: You've been Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy. You went to the polls with nuclear as a key plank. What is the future for nuclear as far as you're concerned.
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Speaker 16: Once we have kanvased the views of the Australian people, we go through that exercise of listening, we dissect the data and the evidence, we'll be making some key to decisions around a whole range of policy areas. Energy is one of them. Gram and within energy, of course, so too will the issue of nuclear. There's no doubt that labor effectively weaponized and attack campaign against our plans for zero missions nuclear energy, and we'll be looking at that studying that we won't be rushing to any conclusion. It doesn't matter what the policy is. Across a range of portfolios, nothing is being thrown out, nothing is being locked in to keep with the exception of the values which unite us. We'll be listening, will be studying, and then we'll be making decisions as a party room together on the direction we want to take in those different portfolio areas.
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Speaker 1: The final question, the vote for party leadership was very close, Susan Lee winning at twenty nine to twenty five. Will you be unified into the future? Is there any factionalism, will anything that will divide the party?
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Speaker 16: I believe we will be united, and that is partly because we are absolutely united on those values which unite us. And our challenge collectively is to ensure we have policies which policies are an outward expression of your values. And I believe every member of the Liberal Party room understands that and is hungry to make sure that's what we do. And then when it comes to Susan's leadership, Graham, she's a really inclusive leader and she was making it very clear yesterday that she wants to have the best team on the field, which means that includes some people who would have voted for her and some people who didn't vote for her, And I think that's the sign of a leader that genuinely wants to bring the team together. And I believe the team will come together and we'll work as a united force to ensure that we do express those fundamental values, liberal values, which are Australian values, through our policies over the next years ahead.
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Speaker 1: Tedo'brian, thanks for the chat today. So what do you think, folks, Ted O'Brien Deputy leader Susan Lee as leader. Is that a team that instills you with confidence? Do you think they're the people to rebuild the party or would you have gone in a different direction? As I always say, I know if you're on one side of the House of a strong Laby, you're happy to see the opposition in disarray, but for the good of the country, you don't want the opposition in disarray. You want to win an election, but you want a strong opposition because without a strong opposition we often get weak government. So time alone will tell. So what do you think of the team Susan Lee and Ted O'Brien. There they are Liberal leaders taking us to the next election.
00:52:49
Speaker 2: Five A Mornings with Graham.
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Speaker 1: Goodings and good morning to you on this Wednesday, May fourteenth, hump day. Hope we find you well. Let's take some calls, John, good morning.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely shell shocked the stave Astraane legal system collect that suspended sentence.
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Speaker 1: On Dennis.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, what transpired this morning. That's disgrace, absolutely disgrace. I know there's two young children involved, but that's why you've got grandparents and they're around and sisters and all that family. But that's that's just totally unacceptable because he can walk away and of course their mother's life. You know, it's my opinion noticing it's a disgrace to say, strown legal system to just treat someone like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I take your point, John, There's no question that the fact that there are two children involved that have lost their mother and if their father gone to jail, they've effectively lost their father too. So I'm sure that played a big role in the sentencing of rowand Dennis. He was sentenced in court after his wife and fellow olympian, Melissa Hoskins, died from being hit by his car. He walked free from court to continue caring for his children. For his inherently risky and Dangerous Act, a suspended sentence handed on by the District Court. Christine, good morning to you.
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Speaker 18: Well in Graham. I'm a no nuclear person, but I'm concentrating on Bill Gates. Yeah, he has found some boffins that are making nuclear things as big as cars and shipping containers and they can control one thousand houses. The costing is ten million dollars a day Americans, so I don't know what will be paying. The wires have to be tripled and the towers will be high as the Eiffel Tower, he said. And that's one shipping containers. So that's one in Rendmark, one in Berry, one in Loxton, one in Wakery, and you're paying ten million dollars. I don't know if it's for each operation or just at seven thousand houses for ten million dollars a day.
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Speaker 1: So you reckon to be worth looking at.
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Speaker 18: Well, it's very expensive, it's very dangerous.
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Speaker 19: It's the best.
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Speaker 18: The explosions mean they're going to put them into aircraft as well, and it will last a year the battery and then you have to replace the battery every year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you for that, Christine. Yeah, look I don't. There's no argument that nuclear is unsafe. There are no explosions, it's not like a nuclear bomb, and it's proven in this day and age that nuclear power is safer. There have been fewer deaths in the last ten years, and there have been in solar incidents and wind farms and the like, So nuclear is safe. I don't think we can have that argument anymore. Well, as we've been saying that Olympic cyclist Round Dennis has been sentenced in Adelaide over the death of wife Melissa, Melissa Hoskins's father spoke outside the Bought a short time ago.
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Speaker 20: We're we're glad the trial is over and short and considerably by Rowan Skilty Queen. It's now time for us to move on, which would be Melissa's expectations of us. Clearly, we want to be We want to continue to be an integral part of their children's lives and their future. How we do this in a meaningful way and a relevant way will take time as we refocus on our life going forward without Melissa. With respect to Ron, as hard as it's going to be, it's important that we also have a well managed, a well mannered relationship with him. Oliver our Madeline deserve this.
00:56:42
Speaker 12: They have done nothing wrong.
00:56:44
Speaker 1: That's Melissa Hoskins' father outside the District court today after the sentencing of Rowan Dennis. He's walked from the court free to continue caring for his children for his inherently risky and dangerous act after his wife died after being hit by a car. No not, You'll be hearing more about that as the day progresses. Good morning, Graham. My daughter graduated UNI last year as a qualified paramedic. Unfortunately for her, there are no vacancies in Southastrada, so she now works in retail. Yet on the York Peninsula where I live, there is only one paramedic on duty for the entire peninsula, and we are constantly bombarded with commercials and encouraging people to become ambulance volunteers. I don't get it. Good on your Martin, Thanks for your input.
00:57:26
Speaker 2: Five Double A Mornings with Graham. Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight to eleven on five Double A this Wednesday morning. Sun shining Brightley. Oh No, I see a few clouds out there, not too much rain in them, unfortunately, and as we look into the days ahead, still no rain and we always spare a thought. Every time I say what a beautiful day, I always have a touch of guilt because I know if you're out on the land and looking to the heavens for rain and it's not there. Yes, it's a beautiful sunny day, but it's not so beautiful if you want that moist stuffle two Jane, Good morning, Good morning Jane.
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Speaker 21: Hello, good morning Raham. I'm not used to this. I used to operate a cord switchboard when I was young and guess what my first job was, No.
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Speaker 1: Tell me.
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Speaker 21: T Channel nine are Tarman in Sydney?
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, that would.
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Speaker 21: Have been a twenty years old and I came for a working holiday.
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Speaker 22: I'm still here, is that right?
00:58:34
Speaker 21: Yeah? I was trained in England for the GPO. Two lots of training, five weeks training. I loved it, absolutely loved it. But as you can imagine, I when I was twenty years old and I've had to get used to the Australian lingo it was, and I didn't know what Channel nine was. I didn't think it was a big deal. But yeah, I had quite quite some experiences there because you get crank calls and stuff like that.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: I can imagine that. So did you have the old system with cords that you had to plug into holes and things like that?
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: To explain to someone who's never seen the system, you know, you'd have this web of wires and you'd have to know, you know, a call had come in and they say I want to speak to the program manager or something, and you'd have to link that wire up with the right hole.
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Speaker 21: That's right in England on the big board, I had sixteen a set of sixteen wires.
00:59:39
Speaker 1: Well that'll keep you busy.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, and they were like two together, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 23: Right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look good on you, Jane. Thanks for telling us that Jaine's call was profitable by the fact, we're talking about jobs that no longer exist to talk about. In nineteen fifty five, the Adelaide telephone exchange was shut down and became automated, putting out hundreds of phone operators, putting hundreds of phone operator is out of work, prompt the question what job have you worked in that no longer exists? And we're going to have here from somebody that we heard from on the Breakfast program this morning a little bit later on, who worked in a video store? Remember how big video stores were and all of a sudden, the video stores become became DVD stores, didn't they? And then they disappeared like a puff of smoke. How times change, not always for the better, I must say, Well, parents are being urged to act on early warning signs of eating disorders. Recognizing those early warning signs isn't that easy? Well, new research from Flinder's Universities identified the most common early indicators and joining us now Professor Tracy Wade from the College of Education Psychology professor good morning to you, Good morning, career eating disorders. What classifies as an eating disorder, Well, if.
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Speaker 23: We're talking about younger children, then often it relates to someddy that looks a bit more like anarex cinniversa, where children are starting to lose weight or exercising too much and it's impacting their physical health, and that can become quite unwell, quite quickly at that age. As kids get a bit older, entering into adolescents, than you might expect also to see some binge eating, which parents might recognize by food disappearing unexpectedly and of course using approaches to try and manage that overeating.
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Speaker 1: So what sign should parents be looking out for.
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Speaker 23: Well, we did a scan of websites to try and figure that out, to actually hear from parents and cares, because sometimes as professionals, we think we know what the answer is, but we wanted to hear from parents. So we actually identify two hundred and fourteen earlier Warning Science mentioned across a whole variety of websites, but the things that were most commonly mentioned within like exercising too much. And we're talking here about our children, so sort of ages five to twelve in particular. We were very keen to look at this younger group, and so it means exercising outside of s thoughts and sometimes doing it secretly in their room at night. Any noticeable weight loss, if they're constantly thinking about food, if they're cutting out entire food groups, if they're being secretive about what they're eating, not letting you know, not wanting to have dinner with the family. Yeah, all of those things are things to watch out for. Kids start to get anxious and setting up strict food habits or rules. That's another problematic thing to watch.
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Speaker 1: Is this all triggered by social media and body shaming and you just focus on looking perfect.
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Speaker 23: It's a variety of things. Social media we think has certainly made things worse, and you know, that's why we're keen for kids to be carefully supervised and the types of social media they use. I think also the anxious kids. When there's a lot of talk about healthy eating and not getting fat in schools, we know that can be a trigger for some kids because particularly the anxious kids start to to form those strict food habits or food rules, and they start to obsess and worry about getting fat. So it's you know, and we've had that for a long time in society, this sort of push against obesity. But kids can't really sort of figure out, you know, they just start to get worried about this potential catastrophe, even if it's not realistic for them.
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Speaker 1: We hear stories about people suffering from anorexia, and you can tell that they are over slim, you know, just but they still see themselves as fat. Are they actually seeing that? What are the indicators that make them believe that even though they're pencils thin, they are overweight?
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Speaker 21: Yeah?
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Speaker 23: Well even just sort as are any honest their disease, So we know that it comes to sort of altered brain function and the more that people start to starve, the more their brain starts to sort of harden in a way, a bit like cement, where they become more rigid in their thinking. And so even though they're looking at something, they can see themselves or bits of their body is fat, but no one else can see that, so it becomes a distortion. And you know, we know that parents of kids can say that, you know, their child starts to really worry about being fat even though they're not, and that they are as you say, it could be pencil thin, and they start to invest a lot of time in trying to make sure they don't gain weight or to try and lose weight. And we have to be clear with children in particular, there is no reason for them to lose weight, you know, it's really or to cut out food groups. They need to be gaining weight healthily. They need to have a variety of food groups. And the only exception would be if there's a medical condition, of course, and medical supervision is needed. So for kids, they really need to be able to eat sufficient to the nutrition that they need for a growing body and a growing brain.
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Speaker 1: It can be difficult with children, though, I myself as a child, there were lots of foods I didn't like. I didn't have an eating disorder. I wasn't worried about my body shape or anything like that. But there are just certain foods I didn't want to eat. So what are parents do in that case?
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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, you know, I was.
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Speaker 23: Another one of those children. I didn't like vegetables or meat, so you know, what was I going to eat? But we know that a lot of kids are fussy eaters, and so in that case, they can be healthy enough as long as you try to get addequate quantities to But it might be that they just don't like certain foods. For some kids, that might just be five different foods that they like, and so it's useful to of course have that checked out medically to make sure that they are healthy. And you know, it might be that you want to work with a psychologist to help them slightly expand what they're eating, just to make sure they're getting the major nutritional groups.
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Speaker 1: Many years ago, a very authoritative father would say you're not leaving the table until you clear your plate. Those days are gone, so that tactic doesn't or shouldn't work any longer.
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Speaker 23: Yeah, I grew up in that era as well, so I'm well aware of that. So you know I did sort of sniffle my way through the lamb chops and the mashed potato, but still can't have mashed potato to this day. So yes, does you know we do work with parents when a child has a needing disorder to start to set limits because that's what needs to happen, particularly when the brain is so anxious. The child will argue over anything, and so parents do have to move in that case to clearer limits and rule setting to get them through that that really tricky period so the child doesn't become unwell.
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Speaker 1: You've highlighted the common early warning signs of an eating disorder. What should a parent do when they recognize those signals?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, well we would. We know that it's tricky for parents because they really there's a lot of confusing messages out there that you know, we don't want kids to get fat, and so often it takes them a while to start to get worried because they think, oh, this is healthy. But going back to my point, it's never okay for a child to be trying to lose weight or cut out through groups, and there's a medical reason we would encourage parents. There's a great Australian website called Your Instinct, which was actually set up in Victoria, but it's an excellent website where parents can work through their concerns and it comes out with sort of a summary report. You can actually take to a GP to discuss the concerns that you're having, because we know that often parents have to try a few times to get help. They can be turned back by gps or emergency departments and so it's just to sase it'll be okay. So it's good if they can gather their thoughts and their concerns and present that to a GP. And the message is really about persisting and getting help as early as possible and finding someone that can take your concerns seriously.
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Speaker 1: Professor, that's good advice. Thanks for your time today. Thank you, Professor Tracy Wade, College of Education, Psychology and Social Work at Flinders University. Eating disorders come in all shapes and sizes and a concern for many parents, but a lot of kids I just don't like certain sorts of foods. But there are more alarming signs than that of evidently getting up in the middle of the night and exercising and just believing that you're overweight and you're not. So parents need to act when they see those signs. A double two three double is my number. From the text line, Look, I'm sorry to say that if Christine can research to find out about the mini nuclear plants, then she can research to find out how these same nuclear units are are perfectly safe. I'm in my seventies and keep up with the latest research, so anyone can. All I have is my mobile phone. Is important to say that Albanesi played into the fears of uninformed people by insinuating that nuclear plants still cause three eyed frogs. That was plain wrong of Albanzi. Yeah, I think we all need to do more research on the matter and don't take what every politician says at face Vatti, whatever their party, morning, GG, I agree with you regarding the cop conference, all the talk about how to be great to say the environment, but the likes of Prince Harry heading in on a private jet and all the extra flights. Ironically, it's a very high carbon footprint event. Terrific to hear your iconic voice no more core flutes means GG is a happy man. Thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: AJ.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty happy at the moment. Core Flute's got a lot to do with it. If all the Liberals who speak in the media endlessly trot out the fact that they are going to be listening, which I think I heard your guests say or refer to at least half a dozen times, I'm predicting there will be too much or won't be too much listening going on. I didn't hear a hell of a lot of listening in that interview, just him saying how much you'll be listening. Perhaps you can get him on again to listen to a few callers questions instead of us having to listen to all that media spin. Good Onia Steph Graham, a five vote winner is not convincing. Angus Taylor would not be happy. We shall see God on your Barry Well. To be fair, a lot of party room votes are pretty close, and when a new leader is elected, they have to rally round that new leader because they're all on the one vote. Example, if Angus Taylor started rocking that boat, now a lot of people had fall out and I'm going to be no closer to getting the Liberals back in power. So once an election spill is called or an election, no matter how what the margin is, you're going to get some disgruntled people and they're just going to have to say, well next time, if there is a next time, Five.
01:11:20
Speaker 2: Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Eleven to eleven, five double A. On this beautiful, beautiful Wednesday morning. Well it's underway, up and running, as it always at this time of the year, the twenty twenty five Kernowek launda Copper Coast Cornish Festival. To tell us about it, Rosin Talbot, the Copper Coast Council mayor, Good morning, Rosalind, how are you?
01:11:42
Speaker 23: Good morning?
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Speaker 14: I'm well, thank you, such a beautiful day and so much that thing.
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Speaker 1: Here on the copper coat I can well imagine. How's it going so far?
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Speaker 14: Well, the town's the three you know, towns are really starting to get a bit of a buzz about them, with the people looking very Cornish in their Cornish outfits. And there's lots of the exhibitions and displays are already open and so people are taking advantage of getting out and seeing all of those. So it's looking really good.
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Speaker 1: So give us a bit of the history. Why is there such a strong Cornish influence in that part of the world.
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Speaker 14: Well, the Copper Coast was sort of founded on the back of the Cornish mine, of the copper mining, and the Cornish people came here to do that copper mining. In fact, the Borough and Munter Cornish Australian Cornish mining sites have been Sensitive listed for World Heritage listing because of that transparence of skill and culture from Cornwall and how it's still.
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Speaker 23: Available to sort of see that.
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Speaker 1: Today when we look at the first of them, and it's obviously huge in the area, but how many people come up from Adelaide.
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Speaker 14: Look, pre COVID, we would get forty to fifty thousand people here for the kernelic Lounde COVID year. Of course we saw those numbers drop, but then in twenty twenty three they started to lift again and we're hoping this year, you know, we're back to those numbers that we had pre COVID. So there's such a lot to see and do and to experience that real Cornish culture that here on the Copper Coast. We're really proud of that heritage.
01:13:27
Speaker 1: So tell us some of the big attractions.
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Speaker 14: Well, on Friday in mounta will be the official opening and there will be a street garade and the children will be doing their maypole dancing, which is extremely complicated. I don't know how they skip and jump and run and get the weaving in the right manner and they do a really good job. Of course highlight it. For me, I always enjoy the pasty making competition where we go head tohead because I'm going for a three peep. I've won that for the last two years, so that's always a bit of fun. You know, we have our local member, Fraser Elis will be participating and you know, the patron of Kernewek, and everyone likes to participate in that and it becomes very competitive.
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Speaker 8: Saturday we have.
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Speaker 14: The Village Bear in Cadena where there's lots of market stalls, lots of activities. We have the judging of the best dressed costumes, so you know, people dressed up in kernelwek Cornish costumes. And of course Saturday afternoon is the traditional Bard ceremony. That is a ceremony ceremony that I think I'm right in saying that here is one of the only places outside of Cornwall that that ceremony iss had and that is very traditional, very ceremonial and you know, I find that real, the real culture of of Cornwall. And then of course Sunday we have a Cavalcade of Cars where vintage cars tour three towns starts that Wallaroo, goes through moon To, comes to Cadina, finishing at the Cadena Oval with great festivities and you know you can.
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Speaker 8: Look at all the beautiful cars, and.
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Speaker 14: So they're sort of the three events that then there's so many exhibitions. We've got the art to play and you know, exhibitions of old wedding gowns and quilting. You know, there's just so much things to do and see and really worth coming up for a drive.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, can I get back to the pasting making competition? Like he get some pretty famous people trying their hand at making pasties.
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Speaker 14: Look, we do have some famous people. Last Colonel, we had the Governor, she was cooking, she was in her and her husband were making the Cornish past us and anyone that comes along. You know, it probably goes back to when Don Dunstan was the premier. He was involved and many premiers.
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Speaker 18: Since then, and it.
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Speaker 14: Becomes quite competitive.
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Speaker 1: I can well imagine. So if you're making a cornish pasty. Do you go in with your own recipe or do you go with the tried and true.
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Speaker 14: No, well, they were always supplied with the ingredients and the pastry, and Austin school students or someone will assist us because.
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Speaker 18: We need some help.
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Speaker 14: But we're supplied with everything that we need and it's up to us to make the pastry and fill the pastry and make our pasty.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of fun, So there's be no doubt a lot of people here in Adelaide saying, oh, great weather coming up. Nice part of the world to be. Let's head for the Copper Coast. Where should they first head, Well.
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Speaker 14: Depending which day there is, there is a program which they can download from the kernel we k website which is colonel k dot org. So if they look at that program and pick out which things they would like to see, and do you know, it's such an easy drive from the city. Now two hours and you're here. It's good road, and you know you can come and enjoy a cornish pasty, wash it down with some swanky have a look at all the displays, and participate in the activities of the time. And you know you can have a really great day.
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Speaker 1: Sounds fantastic. Roslind, thanks for your time today and enjoy the rest of the festival.
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Speaker 14: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Knewack Leunda which is happening on the Copper Coast. Rosalind Talbot is the Copper Coast Council Mayor and obviously pretty proud of it too. So have you been to the festival in the past, Let's know what it's like, What have you enjoyed most about it? And can you beat a good old Cornish pasty. Talking a little bit earlier about things that or jobs that don't exist any longer. With the demise on this day, nineteen fifty five of the Adelaide Phone Exchange, hundreds of operators were put out of job. Was it all went digital? Are you or have her worked in a job that no longer exists? And think back to the good old days? Well? On the Brecky Show with David and Will this morning, they prompted a call from Craig, who had fond memories of days gone by.
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Speaker 24: I grew up working in my old man's video shop. We had one of the one of the first and one of the biggest video shops in a laid used to be called north Side Video and we turned into a movieland franchise.
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Speaker 10: I grew up.
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Speaker 24: I worked there from the age of eleven through to my late teens, and just the best memories ever. It was such a good experience working in that shop, and I just got memories like Friday and Saturday nights in that shop. It was jam packed the shoulder to shoulder in there, and you know the blockbuster movies that come out for the week. It was just such an excitement and just a great vibe.
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Speaker 1: So there you have the video stores. Remember the video stores. He used to be really look forward in anticipation, whether it be on a Friday after work, get some movies for the weekend, you go along and take the kids with you and videos. At first, we used to go to the beta section because we were Beata people. The VH section was way bigger, far bigger selection of movies. It all became a lot easier when we moved over to DVDs, and yeah, you could tell which were the most popular DVDs because if it was a big movie, there'd be about fifteen copies of it. If it was not such a popular movie, there'd be maybe one or two and you'd have to get in early because you didn't want to get there and say, oh we were going to hire whatever whatever, and they had all gone. But yeah, they were the day. So did you ever have a job that no longer exists? I'd like to hear about it. Mark says. My first job was a console operator for an hourly rate of three dollars ninety three an hour. Duties including the checking oil levels, wash windows, handling money, and filling the petrol or diesel tank. They were the days, wind down the windows, they filler up, mate. Good on you, Mark morning Graham. In regards to jobs that no longer exist, I used to be a typesetter and can compewters took my job the way. It was a real art that has been lost. I can remember working for five DN in the newsroom on North Terrace, and while the studio was in North Adelaide, the newsroom was in the News Adelaide News newspaper building on North Terrace and I used to have to enter through a downstairs door where all the printing presses were, and the smell of the printing presses was intoxicating. It was just a marvelous smell of molten lead and set by that time, but the smell was quite remarkable. In the middle of winter, the printing area was always very, very warm. Of course, those days of typesetters and printers have long since gone, but fond memory. So if you've got a job, do you want to tell us about that no longer exists? What you did when you did it? Tell us all about it? Eight double two three double is the number five double.
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Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:21:04
Speaker 1: It's six minutes past eleven five double A on this Wednesday morning, but a cloud coming over, but still a beautiful sunny day in Adelaide. Talking about jobs that no longer exist. My first job at fourteen was over a Christmas at John Martin's not there now. Second was the second was Pinnock. They made vacuums that closed the factory kept me on with a new company called Prio Techs. They made shelving and other steel products that closed. Many other jobs none of them are closed. Well, not sure. Good on your gen High Grammar used to be a real bank teller, actually counted money, no machines, went out to schools on school bank days, calculated interest, manually got to know and genuinely cared about my customers. No such thing now, tears from Annie. Annie. I take your point and thank you for the wonderful service you provided. I don't remember as a kid going to school having people from the bank come out and you sort of thought they were pretty special people, and they were, and you developed a real rapport with them, and I think they carried on into adult life and them going back many years now where we thought banks were something pretty special. But that affinity, that touch that we had with them is no longer there. Graham first job was as a milkman's runner, delivering milk to homes before school. Two dollars fifty a day, plus a free chocolate milk.
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Speaker 2: Rob.
01:22:26
Speaker 1: You would have thought you'd died in God to heaven. How good was that?
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Speaker 2: Hi?
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Speaker 4: Gg?
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Speaker 1: I used to work in manufacturing that doesn't exist anymore. Andrew says, I used to throw the local messager newspaper when I was thirteen. It's now electronic. That's right, Yeah, that's right. The papers were delivered, hand delivered, and remember going out to get your paper and the sprinkler came on and you carried this wet, soggy mush back inside. There was a time that they didn't wrap the papers, or they wrapped them. Then they later wrapped them in plastic, which was good because when it rained and they weren't wrapped, once again a wet, soggy mess. But yeah, times have changed. No paper deliveries like that anymore. Hi Graham, have you heard about this ballot box found in a home in a seat won by Labor? Why isn't this all over the mainstream news. If this is the case, we have to question the validity of this election. I'm still yet to meet anyone that will admit to voting for Labor. Could only adam, Well, I'll tell you what. There are plenty of them. I have heard about that ballot box. It was a seat that was won by Labor. They had a very big margin. I haven't got the detail in front of me, but the box was found, it was sealed, and I would assume that those vounts were later counted. It was an accident. It wasn't somebody trying to do the dirty. Although I find it very difficult to understand that you finish a day day working for the Electoral Commission and pick up bits and pieces to go home. Oh there's a box over there, I might take that home to so we'll try to get to the bottom of it. But I don't think there's any conspiracy. I think the AAC run a pretty tight ship. Looking up the list, so some things I can't read out And thank you very much for your information, Gigi. Isn't this the same Susan Lee that got kicked out of the same Liberal Party years ago? Heard on radio yesterday June. Susan Lee was never kicked out of the Liberal Party. She did resign at one stage from the ministry over some travel situation. I think it was something like that, but she was reinstated to the ministry in the Scott Morrison ministry, So no, she was never thrown out of the party per se. Moving right along New Orleans jazz singer Judah Tho and is on her way back to Australia. Juditho. When you're saying who is she, well, she's been described as bodacious, seductive and joyful. Her electrifying new show celebrates the off forgotten badass ladies of the nineteen forties and fifties. She has a pedigree as long as your arm. She's performed with some of the great singers around the world. She is a great character, indeed, and she will be here in Adelaide performing at the Delaid Cabaret Festival, which is the biggest cabaret festival of it's kind in the world. And I think it's the second time she's performed here. She's also performed at the Sydney Opera House and it's my great delight to be chatting with her this morning. Judith, you're coming here with your show called Unapologetically Judith A one.
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Speaker 18: No.
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Speaker 22: It's something that I decided to call it because I made an album in twenty twenty two which brought me a great deal of success, and I recorded in New Orleans where I live, with an extraordinary group of musicians, and it was based around and celebrated the lives of some of the most remarkable women of the nineteen forties and fifties jazz and blues era in America, who were when I say unapologetic, I mean they were absolutely so proud of who they were. They were so devastatingly unique in control powerhouses, and they were pioneers for all the women that followed. Really, and you know, understanding that is an incredibly difficult time at a very different times from where we are now and entirely very misogynistic. These women were leaders and they didn't compromise on any level. And they were proudly female and dare I say it, fantastically unapologetically female in the way that they performed, the way that they sang what they sang about, their love of being sexy and sexual and being filled to the brim with double entendres. I mean masterful jazz and blues singers and pianists, always at the piano. And so this really is a mighty celebration and the record won bringing to the fabulous Adelaide Cabaret Festival, and.
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Speaker 1: You're going to bring them to life in the banquet room. Now, Yeah, you're no stranger to Adlaid. You've been here numerous.
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Speaker 22: Times at least once, I have to say a couple of times. Actually love it. I love Australia. I mean I am one of those as somebody that lives in London and in New Orleans and a bit where I am right now in Sana, Monica. I always described Australia as being the best of Britain and America. It's got the sort of humor of the Brits and the dry acerbic, don't take yourself too seriously of the Brits. But it's also got you have the can do kind of like you know, really sort of like something young and exciting about Australia. But you're kind of You've got that pioneer vibe to you, and I think, I think together you're it's an extraordinary place. I love coming to Australia. It's been too long. I mean the last time I played in Australia was at the Sydney Opera House.
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Speaker 1: COVID.
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Speaker 22: It's as it was hitting my friend. We're not even allowed to say that word, are we now? Put it back in. I've been told please don't mention that. But the truth is that ideally, remember thinking this is the best and the worst of times. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm playing in the beautiful concert room in the Sydney Opera House, which is a dream come true. And I'm also trying to get a flight back to America, and I'm on the last one out. And there was a real feeling of fear and of the unknown, and it was the beginning, as we all know, of the like the most terrifying few years that any of us have experienced.
01:28:39
Speaker 1: You've been backed up by the gentlemen callers as they were called. But by the time they get here they just called the callers. What what's changed?
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Speaker 22: Oh great, now I can say this to you as a good Welsh woman. Let's be honest. Fifteen hours on a plane, I think they stopped being gentlemen. I think that's that's what happens. I'm preparing myself for the awfulness of a fifteen our flag with the callers. You know what, I kind of loved the idea they were the gentlemen callers because you know, in days of you're in the forties and fifties, the woman that I love, the Nelly Lutches, that Julia Lees, the Peggy Lees, the Blossom Dearies, they all had bands that were called something and they were always you know, they were the women in front of the men in the band, and so they would call them something like the boyfriends or the rhythm section. It was fantastic, and so I thought the gentleman callers made me laugh because it's something from a Jane Austen novel. You know, It's like I had my gentleman caller, you know, came to upon the house last night. It's all very British and funny, but I think the Callers is something that's something sexy about it. Are in the Callers sense?
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Speaker 2: You know?
01:29:44
Speaker 22: It's like Sharon Jones and the Dapkins says, there's something really sexy about that. So yeah, I'm bringing the Callers and what a band. They can't wait to Australia.
01:29:56
Speaker 1: It runs off the tongue Jude that one and the Callers. I can see, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
01:30:00
Speaker 1: I like it, yes, yes, Now you mentioned some classic names there, some great artists. Has it been one soul artist that's been your inspiration or is it spread across a number.
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Speaker 22: Well, I'll tell you the truth and as I must, and how this show or the show is based upon. Is me five year old judis short redheaded Welsh girl at home with my opera singer father. It's the truth. My father was a very successful opera singer at roll Overa's Comment Garden in London, Laskarle Milan all over the world. But he was a very unusual and rare man because he and my mother were huge jazz and blues fans, and in his collection of albums, we'd be going, you know, see opera all the time. The house was filled with classical music, was filled with singing. It's what we did. That's our you know, that's our family business.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 22: The other thing we did, which is very unusual, is he had this collection of forty fives that he had collected when he was a kid, and that's what he would play us. And I remember the first time, at age five, hearing this incredible woman who was my first inspiration, Nellie Lutcher, singing a song called Fine Brown Frame. And she's not known by anyone anymore. This is what breaks my heart.
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Speaker 2: And she was so.
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Speaker 22: She was such an inspiration on so many women and artists that followed, you know, whether it be the Blossom Diaries or the Ruthera Fraglas who you know, you name it. If you're at the piano and you're singing, these women were The door was opened by people like Nellie Lutcher.
01:31:39
Speaker 1: Beautiful Judith. We're so excited to look forward to seeing you. I can't let you go without I'm a big fan of the spinal Tap movie. Now please, I'm hearing a whisper and I don't know what your connection is, but a Second Spy.
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Speaker 22: No idea second Spinal Tap movie is coming out in America in September, and there's an albu to go with it, and there's extraordinaries because I do know him, he as a family friend, extraordinary new songs from Derek Smalls, and I have to say, I'm prouder than you can even begin to imagine. And I'm really happy because the film is great. I've seen it, of course, I've seen it. It was it was filmed in New Orleans and and it's a beauty. And I'm thrilled because you know, you never know when it comes to two, you know, follow ups. You know that those those those films that follow it cult film, it's very hard to to you know, you want to let the fans down. That's the most important things with these guys is that they don't want to let let their fans down and do something that doesn't cut, doesn't cut, it doesn't hit the mark.
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 22: I'm thrilled to say. And my next answer, without you asking the question, is no, I'm not in it. And for that, I am deeply, deeply angry.
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Speaker 1: Than you read my mind. I was going to say, and what are you doing in the movie, but you're not.
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Speaker 22: I actually have one spoken line. None of the wives are in it. The ringers are not allowed. We kept, we kept at the distance, and we're all like fuming and like chomping at the bit because we want to be in it. But you know, we make better better fans than anything else.
01:33:20
Speaker 21: You know.
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Speaker 22: I got to be on stage as a backup singer with with Michael McKean's lovely wife at all, and we got to do Glastonbury and Live Earth and Carnegie Hall and the Hollywood Ball and everything else besides. So I've had my share of spinal tap joy, believe me, and it has been one of the greatest experiences of my life.
01:33:40
Speaker 1: I must say, well, speaking of joys, Judith, that's been a joy to speak with you. We can't wait to see you here in Adelaide.
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Speaker 22: I am so excited too. And by the way, I'm debuting this show at the Adelaide Caray Fest so I'm really excited.
01:33:57
Speaker 16: Graham.
01:33:57
Speaker 22: Thank you so much for having me on.
01:33:59
Speaker 1: It's been a light have you on.
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Speaker 2: Judith.
01:34:00
Speaker 1: Judith Owens Cabaret Festivals Surfer Stars. She'll be here in June for two wonderful performances unapologetically Judith Owen and the connection and she sort of pushed it aside there with Spinal Tap is that she is married to Harry Shearer. You might know him better as mister Burns and the Simpsons or Derek Small's in the original Spinal Tap movie. This is a sequel to the Spinal Tap movie that's coming up. The original was in nineteen eighty four, as the have been a greater spread between an original movie and the sequel, so Spinal Tap two is coming up. But more significantly more localized is the fact that Judith Owen is coming to town. Thanks for your time today, Judith great Chat five.
01:34:41
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:34:44
Speaker 1: More calls in a moment, but firstly from Paul. Major traffic accident a three car crash on Glen Osmond Road, midway between Conningham Road and Fullerton Road. Citybound traffic is diverted via Conningham Road. Outbound reduced to one way only. At least seven emergency vehicles avoided possible. Paul, thank you so much for that. Remember you are the eyes and ears of Adelaide. So if you have seen something on accident or something of significance that you want to pass on to us, Please do so on eight double two three double O double O. Helen, good morning, Oh, good morning Graham.
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Speaker 25: Firstly, I'd like to mention that my mother, she worked in Central she was born in nineteen o seven, where you had to ring to get just a dial time right, And then I started working nineteen fifty four as a trunk line operator. Wow, the trunks, and even Salisbury back in those days was a trunk client and you'd have to ring to get the number, and after three minutes you'd say three minutes are you extending? Wow? And if you didn't hang up within ten seconds, you were charged for another three minutes.
01:35:57
Speaker 2: Wow.
01:35:58
Speaker 1: And so this was all done manually.
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Speaker 25: It certainly was, yes.
01:36:02
Speaker 1: And so when did that come to an end, Helen, when it became all automated.
01:36:06
Speaker 25: Well, I'm not really sure on that because I had to retire from the PMNG when I was married in nineteen sixty.
01:36:16
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that story with us, Helen, who remembers the old manual trunk phone system. Anyone else remember that there were party lines too, where more than one house was put on the same line, so if you picked up the phone, you could be listening to someone else's conversation.
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Speaker 26: Peter, Good morning, morning agoposed to work at Hills House doing the closed line. Oh, the business show Business Sunday. Do you remember that Business Sunday on.
01:36:45
Speaker 2: Channel nine on Oh, yes, yes I do.
01:36:47
Speaker 26: They had Senator Button there and he was next to me and they were filming me doing a hills hoist and before the film met to air, so setting up the light and camera watching me, and I kept on saying to myself, Zip, Zip And I dropped my drink bottle and he bent down and picked it up and I said thanks, Zip, And he said, what do you just call me? And I said, sorry, I called the zip and he said I haven't been called that since my school days that I've been called worst by Wilson Tuckey.
01:37:18
Speaker 1: Oh lovely story, Peter. Thanks for sharing that with us, and the wonderful hills Hoist began in Australa, the iconic Hills Jeff, good morning, Yeah.
01:37:27
Speaker 19: Good morning Graham.
01:37:30
Speaker 1: What have you got for us?
01:37:32
Speaker 7: Yeah?
01:37:33
Speaker 19: Tell her with the common or faint down out of the mountain.
01:37:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
01:37:37
Speaker 19: And then as a side gig, we got the service station attendant. Back when you used to do oil water on every wind screen.
01:37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, washed the wind screens, wipe the winds screens.
01:37:48
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, checked the oil exactly. Yeah.
01:37:51
Speaker 19: And Fridays and Saturday nights used to work at the driving Oh.
01:37:56
Speaker 1: Right, did you have to wear white overalls?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
01:38:00
Speaker 19: I'm afraid so I'd forgotten that. Actually you thanks for that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:38:06
Speaker 1: My first memories of going to the drive in, Well, I was very young and my parents used to put me in my pajamas and dressing gown to go to the drive in. I guess that so they didn't have to put me to get me changed late at night.
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Speaker 19: We had to have people come in the boot.
01:38:20
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's true. But yeah, all the workers were dressed in white overalls as I recall it.
01:38:25
Speaker 12: Yeah, I have no idea we used to do.
01:38:28
Speaker 19: We used to take the once a movie was halfway through and a couple of rules were finished at Mount Gambia, we used.
01:38:33
Speaker 12: To drive it down to Millicine.
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
01:38:35
Speaker 1: So I think that you're there? Yeah, yeah, brilliant, great memories, Jeff, thanks for sharing them with us. We can squeeze in another one, I think before the news headlines, Mark, good morning, good Graham, Hey going.
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Speaker 27: Well, My first official job when I left school in seventy nine, was working not Kellen for the PMNG, but I was sitting there with the headphones on, taking telegrams and then going out.
01:38:58
Speaker 1: And delivering them, delivering them by hand, that's right there, yes.
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Speaker 27: Now on a pushbike or of old best for scooter. Back then I was. I was lucky enough to deliver them to Sir Donald Bradman on occasions, and you're and deliver them to the old lottery twenty thirty thousand dollars lottery winners.
01:39:16
Speaker 2: Back the Wow.
01:39:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, Yeah.
01:39:20
Speaker 27: It was pretty good. And as a kid growing up in Bridgewater, we used to have a milkie called Jack who you would deliver milk in his Harley Davison sidecar with the big two stainless steel containers and we'd walk across the road. He'd fill up out bottles and we'd go back inside with the fresh meal.
01:39:37
Speaker 1: Ah, what wonderful memories. Now, getting back to the telegrams for a moment. Didn't people sort of pay by the letter or by the word or something. That's why telegrams always very short?
01:39:46
Speaker 27: Yea, there were so many letters from what from memory? So many letters per telegram? I actually still have a telegram at home that my uncle in TASMANI is sent to my mum and dad when I was.
01:39:58
Speaker 25: Born, So.
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Speaker 1: Look wonderful memories. Good on you, mark Ya, thank you very much for that. Yeah, telegrams often were the bearers of good news or some bad news. So where someone knocked on the door and said telegram, you didn't automatically think it was good news because if it had to be so urgent, maybe it was grim news, and too often it was. But yeah, the good old telegram. You used to pay by the letter. So that's why the way arriving on the next flight stop, we'll be needing such and such stop. Don't worry if I am late.
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Speaker 2: Stop.
01:40:33
Speaker 1: Interesting times. Who remembers the good old telegram? Eight double two three double o double. We're going to take a break for news headlines. It's National Road Safety Week and we're going to look at road rules with the RAA. So if you want to discuss any road rules, any questions, give us a call out. Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings twenty seven to twelve, five double A and I welcome into the studio from the RIA Senior Manager Road Safety, Charles Mountain. Good morning to you, good on and Graham, and to your listeners, good to see you today. We welcome calls. If you have any questions about road safety on this particular the Road Safety Week, give us a call on road rules eight double two three double. As we'll all suggest when we have a guest in the studio to answer your questions, get in early because if you leave it too late, it might be too late. So to speak, Charles, I might start with something that concerned me this morning. I was driving into work along King William Street. At Weymouth Street. I got to the King William Street intersection. The lights were red. I obviously pulled up, and about five seconds later, a bike on my left hand side in the bike lane came up, didn't stop at all and just kept driving across against the red light. And I sort of thought, is that legal? Should they be doing that?
01:41:50
Speaker 2: So?
01:41:50
Speaker 1: How could a cyclist justify going through a red light?
01:41:53
Speaker 2: In that case?
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Speaker 28: Cyclists are classed as vehicles under the road rules, so they need to comply by all the road rules that apply to four wheeled vehicles, including stopping at red lights. The location you've identified is an interesting one because it's a scramble crossing. So that's where all the traffic is stopped for one phase and pedestrians move literally in every which direction. And I suggest what's happened here in this situation, the cyclist has decided that I'll switch allegiance from being a vehicle to a pedestrian, and I'll take advantage of the pedestrian phase and cross accordingly. But in a normal intersection situation, they'd be required to stop and wait and obey the traffic signals like other vehicles as well.
01:42:33
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that because I wasn't aware that they were within their rights to go through, because I kept proceeding and there was another set of lights and the cyclist just went straight through. Now there was no crossing as you've suggested there. This was just a normal crossing and he went straight through it.
01:42:51
Speaker 28: Certainly that's the situation they should stop if they got a red signal. But in the situation you've described where they've got the scramble crossing, they've basically become a pedestrian. And you will see in situations cyclists at some locations will come up onto the footpaths and ride slowly across in concert with the pedestrian phase at some locations, and that's fairly common on mid block pedestrian crossings on major roads, for example, like port Rush Road. A cyclist who wants to get across wills drop on the footpathway for the pedestrian crossing to be activated and then ride slowly across, which is one of the changes it was made to the road rules a little while ago to enable cyclists to safely get across.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just thinking back. I've seen when they come to a scrambled crossing where a cyclist is pulled up literally got off their bike and walked across the crossing and then hopped on the bike again and rode off, And I sort of thought, well, that seems reasonable, that makes sense to me. But when they ride across, it's it's a bit jarring because we don't like to see vehicles effectively going through a red line.
01:43:52
Speaker 28: That's true, and those sort of circumstances can be a little bit disconcerting for motus because they might think, oh, perhaps I should have you go as well. But at the end of the day, it is about ensuring that whatever the circumstances are, that people are cognizant of their environment and they behave accordingly. So as I said, the scramble crossings are unique. We only have a few of those operating in the city of Adelaide. So in those circumstances it's not unusual to see cyclists do that sort of behavior, but in all other intersections they do need to comply with the signals and rite accordingly.
01:44:27
Speaker 1: If you have a question for Charles Mountain ring now eight double two three double O double oh. A bit of a change lately with the rules affecting people who are confronted by an emergency vehicle with light slashing? Which sort of vehicles do you slow down for? What are your requirements? What's expected of here?
01:44:45
Speaker 28: Well, yes there will be as of the nineteenth have made a new law comes into effect which covers roadside assistance and breakdown recovery vehicles. So we've probably all been in a situation where our cars expired by the side of the roapen we have to wait patiently someone to come along and try and effect a repair, or if they can't do that, the vehicle ends up on the back of a tilt trade tow truck and it has to be taken away. Now, in those circumstances. It's quite dangerous because there is no traffic control setups around them as you would expect to see, say, for example, council workers or normal road work. It's no situations, and the vehicle's passing traffic is going past extremely closely to people that have no protection. So the introduction of these rules is something that we're welcoming because it will greatly improve the level of safety for our roadside assistance team who go out and attend to literally thousands and thousands of calls every year. It will require motorsts to just be mindful. That's so if they do see a situation where there it's a broken down vehicle and a breakdown assistance vehicles such as ours in attendance or a tow truck with flashing lights, so they would need to slow down to twenty five k's going past.
01:45:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are you feelings about twenty five k's Some people have responded to us saying you surely forty k's is enough.
01:46:00
Speaker 28: Well, yeah, it's an interesting situation. In South Australia, we've always had twenty five k's past emergency service vehicles. It stems from the situation that in terms of safety. If you're an unprotected person near traffic, then traffic does need to be going at that lower level of speed rather than forty ks to ensure you're not at risk. So that's why they've adopted twenty five k's. It's actually exactly the same as we've had for many many years, passing school buses and people who drive on our regional roads and no, you'll often see a school bus pull up at the side of the road, there'll be lights flashing and then people are expected to slow down as well.
01:46:39
Speaker 1: Does the law apply to any vehicle on the side of the road with a flashing ambulane.
01:46:43
Speaker 28: No, it's only restricted to vehicles engaged in roadside assistance and if they can't get the vehicle going then there might be a breakdown recovery vehicle as well. So it is quite limited because other categories of vehicles are covered under separate pieces of legislation. So as we spoke about local government, for example, if they're working by the side of the road, they'll set up their own traffic management under the requirements of Australian Standard as seventeen forty two Part three for temporary road works, isn't expect me to remember another dare probably not, but it is out there. There's a whole series of guidelines that go with that as well, so obviously, and that's essential to ensure that people can safely work close by the side of the road in safety where you've got very short term situations and if you think, unlike roadworks which tend to be planned, people can't plan where they break down.
01:47:32
Speaker 1: And sometimes you can.
01:47:34
Speaker 28: Get the vehicle hobble it to a safer place, but unfortunately that's not always the situation. And you know, we had a family experience where our car broke down literally in the middle of a lane on Port Rush Road. So in those situations, assistants and people slowing down to make it safe to pass is certainly a key safety element that we're welcoming its introduction.
01:47:55
Speaker 2: Now.
01:47:55
Speaker 1: I have some more questions on this subject to ask you, but we have a caller Marie. Good morning, go ahead, good morning.
01:48:02
Speaker 29: I heard a conversation the other day regarding parking in shopping center car parks. I've always thought it wasn't legal to back into a car park at a shopping center that you had to drive in. What is the right thing?
01:48:26
Speaker 28: The rule with this one is that if the parking is ninety degree, then you're entitled to reverse in or going forwards, unless there's a sign that says you can't do that. And if you look at a lot of shopping center car parks, particularly if someone's got a larger vehicle like a large suv or a dual cabut they almost invariably reverse into the parking spaces because it's much easier than trying to drive in forwards, and it makes it easy to get out as well. So that's becoming perhaps more of a common practice that we're seeing across car parks and.
01:48:59
Speaker 29: Was some years ago so real the why it is illegal.
01:49:04
Speaker 28: Yes it is, but the caveat with that one is that it must be ninety degree parking. If it's an angle parking other than ninety, then you need to drive in in the direction that the angle is made so it doesn't look like you're what they call parking adverse to traffic.
01:49:20
Speaker 1: Good on you, Marie, thanks for you call eight double two to three double if you have a road safety question. Charles Martin from the RAA is in the studio now. If we can get back to this having to slow down for emergency vehicles and the new laws coming into being. With mobile phone cameras, there was a grace period. Is there a grace period for this new legislation.
01:49:41
Speaker 28: No, the implementation of this will commence as of the nineteenth So that's why we're getting out ahead of the state with as much information as we can to advise people of the change in the law. Say, PILO is doing the same thing as well as is the Department of Transport, So there's a lot of information out there at the moment to give people their heads up that this is coming into effect outs of the nineteenth of May. I mean, I will say, while this is a law that is quite prescriptive in terms of the expectations for people to slow down, you know, prior to this, it would have been nice to think that if you did drive past the situation on the side of the road where someone was stranded, that you would automatically perhaps adjust your driving anyway to recognize that there was something different happening on the side of the road. So we see this as simply an extension and a formalization of hopefully what many people have already been doing.
01:50:36
Speaker 1: Now as the rule any different for a multi lane highway where there's more than one lane, No, it's not.
01:50:42
Speaker 28: The only difference would be is if on a multi lane road someone had broken down, they'd managed to pull into, say a complete off road rest area such as a truck stop or something like that, then you wouldn't need to. But if you're parked on the shoulder of the road, say the Southeastern Freeway, then there would be an expectation that you would slow down to that lower speed as well. In those situations, just on that one. If it's on part of what they call the managed motorway section of that they would also from the traffic Control center potentially reduce the speed limit as well to alert passing or approaching traffic that there was an incident on the road, and people who travel on that corridor would be familiar with that. Probably quite frequently when a truck breaks down or something like that, they will reduce the speed limit to make it safer for people going past.
01:51:30
Speaker 1: Excellent eight double two three double doublo. Charles Mountain is in the studio. He's from the RAA and he's here to help with any road rules. If you have any questions of him, give us a call.
01:51:39
Speaker 2: No.
01:51:39
Speaker 1: Eight double two three double doublo back shortly five Double.
01:51:43
Speaker 2: A Mornings with Graham Goodings.
01:51:46
Speaker 1: It's National Road Safety Week and in the studio we have for Charles Mountain, the senior manager of road safety at the RAA, if you have any questions regarding road safety eight double two three double o doublo Charles, before we take anyal calls, if we could get back to the issue about the new rules coming in regarding emergency vehicles and slowing up for them and the like. Are you legally required to slow down to twenty five if you see a breakdown at the roadside but there are no lights flashing the current.
01:52:16
Speaker 28: Rules, you don't need to slow down to twenty five kilometers now in that situation. That's only required once the breakdown assistance vehicle tow truck has arrived and actually put their lights on as well. So that's an important point. And just for clarification, if you also see one of our bands stop by the side of the road and the lights aren't flashing, you don't have to slow down for that either. And just while we're talking about this particular situation, a key difference between the laws that will come into effect them on nineteenth I made for emergency for breakdown vehicles versus emergency vehicles. Is that in our the situations that will apply for the breakdown vehicles is you don't need to slow down to twenty five kilometers per hour if the breakdown is on the other side of the road to which you're traveling. The situation with the emergency services vehicles is you do have to do that unless there's a medium between you and the other side of the road. So that's quite a significant difference and it's an important one just for people to be aware of.
01:53:15
Speaker 1: Craig, we have a caller, go ahead, Greg, oh, hi, Yes, there's.
01:53:19
Speaker 30: A quick clarification. He might have just explained the child might have just explained it. Then about multi lane roads and the breakdown on the side. If you're on say there's something expressway, there's three lanes, all three lanes travel in the same direction, have to slow down.
01:53:35
Speaker 10: Is that correct?
01:53:36
Speaker 28: That's how the law has been written. So yes, that is the expectation. So obviously this will require motorists who drive this road and any multi lane road for that matter, to be mindful of what's going on ahead. And you know that the vehicles themselves have a very visible for that very reason, so that people can be aware that there is a situation ahead. And you know, we would expect even before these laws came into effect, that people would be aware of something different and perhaps be prepared to slow down, if necessary, reduce their speed out of those circumstances. So this will be the same, but they the twenty five K requirement will apply. I mean, it only applies while you're going past the actual situation, in the same way it does for emergency service vehicles. And then of course you can actually resume the posted speed limit of the road.
01:54:28
Speaker 2: Fine. Fine.
01:54:28
Speaker 30: And just one other quick clarification, Repay SA. When they're working on the side of the road they have caution lights on.
01:54:37
Speaker 1: Sorry who was that?
01:54:38
Speaker 30: Which organizations repay Repay SA, the community of service we see people clean out the side of the road.
01:54:47
Speaker 28: Oh, in those sorts of situations, usually they should be covered under their own work zone traffic management RAY arrangements. As we were talking about this earlier on, there is a section called short term works which is covered under a different under the Australian standard to cover off on those situations where you have people doing works in close proximity to the road. And that can be things such as, for example, relaying sections of pavement or cutting the grass for example, so they're covered off, usually under the auspices of the authority that's undertaking the work and the contract that's working for them. The breakdown recovery system or the breakdown vehicle legislation is somewhat different because, as we were saying, people unfortunately have no control generally over where they break down and where they ultimately stop, so that creates much more of a challenge. You don't have the luxury of being able to establish a formal work zone around that situation, so hence the need for people to respond once they see the vehicle with the lights flashing.
01:55:45
Speaker 1: Thanks for call, Craig, George, go ahead, yeah.
01:55:50
Speaker 4: Too.
01:55:50
Speaker 19: Several questions.
01:55:51
Speaker 4: One, what license is needed for a trick that's a three RUL motorbike? Second question, allowed to split traffic? In other words, when the traffic's put up in a red light? Am I allowed to split traffic and ride up? Not on my trick, of course, you know I'll rip the back rules off, But on a solo bike I've got a Harley as well. Am I allowed to split traffic and go right up to the inter section where the red lighter is, because that's about the safest place for motorbike to be. Do you know a lot of fame.
01:56:23
Speaker 28: Yeah, So you're talking about lane filtering on your bike. If you have a full license for your motorbike, then you can do lane filtering under certain circumstances. And I think from memory, you're required to travel or traffic has to be on the station. You're traveling at no more than thirty kilometers. Now, you can't do that through a bike lane. You have to do it between lanes of traffic. And obviously you have to be run.
01:56:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to bike lanes always pa I suppose, isn't it.
01:56:53
Speaker 28: And you also and you have to be very careful obviously when you're doing the lane filtering motorbike or tricycle tipe bikes. And I don't know if you mean the type where you've got two rear wheels and one front wheel. Yeah, I think they require a I'm really not one hundred percent certain to be perfect answer, because there's.
01:57:15
Speaker 11: That's the problem I have.
01:57:16
Speaker 4: My least was I'm getting on and my least was to inherit what's right? Okay, And I'll bet to us sort of find out what license you need and she just doesn't know.
01:57:27
Speaker 28: I'd be more than happy to take that inquiry on for you if you like, and we'll follow it up for you.
01:57:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and we'll get back to you good only Georgia will as as you've heard, we will get back to you with the answer on that. So I think we've got time for a final question, Brian, go ahead.
01:57:46
Speaker 31: Legal, legal and illegal to have unrestrained animals in a car, because I was watching the Andy Lee show that one hundred last other week and they said it was legal to have an animal car unrestrained.
01:58:00
Speaker 28: Yes, it's not illegal, but it's certainly not good practice. And if you think, for example, if you've got a large dog, dogs can anything from twenty to fifty kilograms that's the size of a small child unrestrained in the vehicle. So if you stop suddenly, they will move forward and potentially injure themselves and other people in the vehicle.
01:58:20
Speaker 1: So there are.
01:58:21
Speaker 28: Devices you can buy for the animal which can then be attached to the existing seatbelt in the vehicle and will safely restract the animal. And it particularly applies to small animals as well. I mean I've had the unfortunate experience where we had to take the cat to the vet and the cat managed to escape out of the cage and then an unrestrained cat in a vehicle is a pretty confronting and very dangerous.
01:58:43
Speaker 1: Situation as well.
01:58:44
Speaker 28: So it's very important if you are transporting any animals in a vehicle that you ensure that they're properly contained or restrained.
01:58:52
Speaker 1: But it's not illegal.
01:58:53
Speaker 28: The one thing you can't do is have an animal on your lap in the front seat because that is potentially very danger and obviously if you're a driver as well, it means you're not in full control of the vehicle no circumstances.
01:59:05
Speaker 31: Yes, my jobs are a restrainer kipt in about dosing dogs on his lap while they're driving.
01:59:13
Speaker 28: Yes, and that's as I said, that's very dangerous and that's that's the one thing it is not permitted.
01:59:18
Speaker 1: Great, Kay, thank you, thanks for your call, Brian, just to have time to go. A couple of from the text line, is the twenty five kilometer put our slow down required when a car has its had hazard lights on.
01:59:29
Speaker 28: No, in those situations it doesn't. But perhaps if we can just stress the point that if you're waiting for the roadside assistance vehicle to arrive. We strongly suggest you stay inside the vehicle with the doors closed and your seat belts fastened, so that if something underwall does happen, at least a vehicle will offer you some protection, or if you can get out of the vehicle and go to a safe place until the breakdown assistance vehicle does arrive. But the actual twenty five case spin only kicks in when those vehicles arrive and they turn on there has it their ADM there are emergency service lights.
02:00:03
Speaker 1: Craig wants to know can learn a driver tow a trailer?
02:00:07
Speaker 28: Yes, in South Australia you can because the supervising driver is alongside you. Obviously, we wouldn't recommend that as being your first lesson out on the road, but if you're starting to build up your competence and capability, learning to drive under the supervision of a supervising driver is a good additional skill to learn.
02:00:28
Speaker 1: Just be mindful.
02:00:29
Speaker 28: In some states that is not permitted, so just it always pays to check if you are traveling into state, but if you can, i'd strongly suggest it's a good skill to learn as part of your learning experience.
02:00:40
Speaker 1: And finally, with the new rules coming in, will I be able to identify the emergency vehicle when police ambulance have two different colored lights all others have yellow. Well, that's exactly why they have different colored lights. So the emergency services are very clear that they are always blue and red and that's why we have the flashing amber lights. So that's the distinction between the two. So, as I said, the rules that will apply to our vehicles will be the same as currently apply to school buses. Charles, thanks for coming today. Thanks anser plenty of questions, and thank you to all the callers who took part National Road Safety Week. We've been learning more about the road rules with RAA, Senior manager of road Safety Charles Mountain. That's it for another day. Thank you so much for your company. It's been a busy day. We've covered a lot of territory. Coming up after midday news, it's conversations with Quansey. Then after one Stacy Lee will take you throughout the afternoon.
02:01:33
Speaker 2: Five A Mornings with Graham Goodings
